IUC Rings in 2015 With Poem: Happy New Year Everyone – Love You All!!!!

Posted on December 31st, 2014 by HisHighness in IUC: Travel, IUC:Entertainment, IUC:Exclusive

Sailing without jib,
wood floats,
green wood turning,
2015 – year of the goat,
can you take us higher?,
to the sky high apple pie,
up in the old hotel,
in a natural high,
ruby truncate string,
sitting is the new smoking,
kills more people than HIV,
move that dope,
silver dance kaleidoscope ,
shake and go,
in the land of the midnight sun,
where rivers run free,
equality is king,
laugh to a pudding crawl,
crying release endorphins,
do you ever become jarl in skyrim? – I. Halperin, No.1 NY Times Bestselling author/award winning film director/Touring Musician/editor www.ianundercover.com
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Wishing everyone lots of love, happiness and good health. Make your dreams come true in 2015!!!!


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  1. becca becks said on December 31st, 2014 at 11:41 am

    Happy New Year to you all !!!!!
    2015 Here we come…….

  2. becca becks said on December 31st, 2014 at 11:57 am

    Daily Mail is saying….
    Power dinner in Mexico! George Clooney ‘has Jennifer Aniston, Justin Theroux, Emily Blunt and Jimmy Kimmel over for tacos and tequila’

    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2891970/Jennifer-Aniston-George-Clooney-enjoy-dinner-date-significant-celeb-friends-Cabo.html#ixzz3NUXMxIp1
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  3. WR said on December 31st, 2014 at 3:50 pm

    Happy New Year to all!

    Land of the midnight sun: Where the rivers run free.
    There is Scandinavia, which Is called The Land of the Midnight Sun. Then, there’s Alaska. Used to be free for the natives. Long ago, before statehood. After statehood, came the pipeline. It is “liquid gold”. People came from everywhere, even from South America. Now, they were giving natives hiring preferences. So, some newcomers from SA claimed to be part-Indian. They made a lot of money, and returned to their homeland.
    Newcomers flooded the 49th state, and brought with them, racism. Oh, the stories one could tell! The natives were dumbfounded by the newcomers’ attitude about skin color.
    Even the park rangers started to harass the natives as the natives tried to make a living off the land, as they had done for eons. It was history repeating itself. Just as the Indians in the “lower 48″ were imprisoned by the encroachment of Europeans, it is now happening up there. They are segregated. Newcomers are settling in areas that are more restricted, just as it is elsewhere in the USA.
    This is not to generalize, mind you. There are many newcomers who are for equality.
    FYI: The state song was composed by a native teenager.

    Off topic: We are having the coldest spell in my memory. Rain; snow not far away, and cold wind. Our parking lot sustained many big cracks, overnight.

  4. Togi said on December 31st, 2014 at 4:10 pm

    Happy New Year! WR, living in Alaska I OF COURSE immediately thought of this great state when HH mentioned Land of the Midnight Sun. Quite frankly, I am simply disgusted with skin color and bad attitudes. I’m white, but since the time I was a tiny little girl I always wanted to be BROWN. I have ALWAYS loved dark hair, dark eyes and dark skin … simply because my mind finds it more beautiful. Blonde hair, blue eyes? Nope. Not my idea of beauty. So there’s my “shallow” confession.

    I absolutely HATE that free people are free no more. So often I think of the TRUTH of the matter! I don’t like using the term word “native” because we ALL are native in some respect. I’m a native american, as I was born in America. I am a native Californian, as I was born in California. I’m Irish by decent. I’m Austrian by decent. I’m French by decent. I’m Canadian by decent. I am Sioux by decent. I am German by decent. I’m a lot and I am nothing. Yep. I think of that. I also think of land ownership. NO ONE owns the land! The “Native Americans,” in traditional terms, have it oh-so-right! The lives of man are fleeting … we cannot own land! A piece of paper does not mean anything if someone bigger and stronger comes along and wants it. And yet, even that bigger and stronger person dies.

    I suppose you have heard from your AK connections that we are having a tremendously mild winter! In South Central Alaska, our temps have been CRAZY mild … even warmer than much of the North West. Yesterday our temps reached 48 degrees!!!!! Had a tiny bit of snow on Christmas Day, but otherwise, not much of the white stuff on the ground. Last year was mild as well, but this one is CRAZY.@WR:

  5. Guest2 said on December 31st, 2014 at 4:58 pm

    Happy New Year to all. I suppose the poem is also a clue though not much time now to think about it. Hopefully, when I get back someone will have done all the riddle solving work! I would say, though, that drug running is definitely in there.

  6. Togi said on December 31st, 2014 at 8:02 pm

    A quick review of this post:
    Sailing without a jib: I’m not a sailing expert. But initial research shows that the jib provides a number of benefits but is also complicated … especially for beginners. :)

    Benefits of the Jib
    • Increases Speed
    • Improves the Handling of the Boat (in most situations)
    • Increases the Efficiency of the Mainsail
    • Provides an Easier Method for Getting Out of Irons

    Accordingly, without the use of the jib, speed would decrease, handling would worsen, there would be a decrease of mainsail efficiency, and it would be more difficult to “get out of irons.” Ahhhh. Get out of irons. Is that the key here? More difficult to stay out of jail, perhaps???? Hmmm.

    Wood floats:
    extremely buoyant – staying afloat

    Green wood cutting:
    Green wood is Easier to work with but it’s also tricker to navigate

    Sitting is the new smoking:
    Doing nothing could kill you, more deadly than HIV

    Laugh to a pudding crawl:
    You’d laugh to see a pudding crawl is a catch-phrase aimed at someone who is easily amused or is suffering a fit of uncontrollable hilarity

    There are some obvious phrases. I looked them up and, YES, they were obvious. Move that dope. Yeah. Okay. Dealing drugs.

  7. Guest1 said on December 31st, 2014 at 9:38 pm


    “Land of the Midnight Sun” could also refer to countries like Norway and Finland. I know Ian has posted a couple of times recently about Finland. I remember this because I have a little Finnish in me. Not sure if Finland fits in anywhere.

    My nephew has been stationed in the Army in Alaska for the last couple of years. He is getting out of the service next month. Before he went to Alaska, I told him about the female to male ratio, and he was very disappointed! Is that still the case, men outnumber women by 3 to 1?

    Another thing my husband recently told me is that there are many territories in Alaska that are dry and if you are caught with alcohol by the police it is taken away. I hope this is not because of skin color.

    I also heard food is very expensive in Alaska, and that a gallon of milk is $9.00. Is this true?

    Sorry to ask so many questions, but I would love to hear more about your home state.

    Happy New Year to everyone!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  8. Togi said on December 31st, 2014 at 10:10 pm

    No problems with questions, Guest1. I’m just giggling at a couple of them, though! :) The man to woman ratio is no longer 3-1. Lots of women up here now. A lot of pretty girls, too! So I would think your nephew would be happy. hahahahah

    Yes, there are dry villages out in the Bush. The villages themselves designate whether or not they are dry. Their reasoning is good. The Alaska Natives have a super low alcohol tolerance. They suffer terribly from alcoholism and the suicides and illnesses caused by alcohol. A real BIG danger with alcohol (especially in the villages), is getting drunk and wandering off … passing out in the freezing conditions. Many freeze to death every year, having passed out drunk. It is so terribly sad!

    Food IS expensive, but not as bad as you might think. Milk is $3.99 a gallon at our local store. The villages in the Bush DO have super expensive food. I think a gallon of milk may be that expensive out there.

    Alaska is beautiful … though it is POURING RAIN right now. lol.

  9. joanne said on December 31st, 2014 at 10:26 pm

    Happy New Year all. Lets hope the hate is dying.

  10. WC Kitty said on December 31st, 2014 at 10:26 pm

    Wishing everyone at IUC a happy, healthy, and prosperous New Year! :)

  11. Siska said on January 1st, 2015 at 1:18 am

    Happy new year2015

  12. WR said on January 1st, 2015 at 2:43 am

    The thing about Alaskan natives, is that when one is away, they don’t give you much news. Their tactic is to have you come back up there. But I was there only in my childhood years, and then various vacation times.
    I have to make phone calls to our agencies to learn anything.

    Our relatives are like a mini-United Nations. My sister married a Swede. Another married a blond guy. One brother married an Italian lady from New Jersey. They had twin daughters. Both twins were involved with a Samoan.
    So, opposites attract, as they say. Don’t hear much about my nephews and nieces, lately. My sources dried up.
    My adopted state is California. In college, In the service, I met all types of people. In college, the same.

    Sad that I opened the paper today, to see the obituary of a woman I used to know in college.

    Yes, I read about the warming in Alaska. A few years ago, I read about the natives being surprised at seeing robins way up north. Also, some villages had to move inland because of the rising waters.
    I instinctively knew that humans would ruin Alaska, without giving it a second thought. Greed would destroy The Great Land. And it hurt the natives to become so anti-Christian; well, at least some native leaders.
    Also read about Canadian spruces being attacked and destroyed by insect newcomers. And sightings of snakes.

    Down here in The Lower 48, the big fad is to wear fur hats, in the exact style we used to wear back when we were kids. Makes me smile, because they seem to think they’re so cool.
    Some of us love the cold spell. Brrrr! I never use artificial heat; well, at least so far. Feel sorry for the independent homeless. We have some in the neighborhood. Many have mental issues.

    There’s a New Year’s Party going on not far away. Curiosity may get the better of me in an hour. I can’t tolerate alcohol, and I know they will want to get me to join.

  13. WR said on January 1st, 2015 at 2:54 am

    Did you know that a few decades ago, some states refused to serve alcohol to natives? I use natives, because the real Indians are coming to America in droves. So, you’ll understand when I say native americans. There should be a better label. Tribal Americans is a good one. To erase at least some of the terrible negative associations regarding the term, American Indian.

    The natives are missing an enzyme which breaks down alcohol. Consequently, the alcohol goes directly to the organs, such as the brain, the kidneys, the liver, etc! This is similar to the internal makeup of the Asians. The Asians used to get their high from opium, because of alcohol intolerance. Now, if the natives interbred with Europeans, for example, they may well have higher tolerance of alcohol.

    Some Caucasians also miss this enzyme, and have acute alcohol poisoning when they drink. This is why one may see that Caucasians make up the majority of AA members if one visits the program.
    Natives frequently go outside when they are inebriated. Thus, they have higher visibility in that sad state.

  14. WR said on January 1st, 2015 at 2:59 am

    We lost another great actor, Edward Herrmann. Very talented!

  15. WR said on January 1st, 2015 at 3:10 am

    I should add that the cold here is a “wet” cold. It goes right through one’s clothes. Misery for the weaker people.

  16. Dream said on January 1st, 2015 at 2:51 pm

    Happy New Year, I hope it brings you all, all that you desire and all that you need.

  17. Birdsfly said on January 1st, 2015 at 3:23 pm

    So Ian, your ‘undercover’ time in Finland/Eastern Europe seemingly uncovered lots of good intel….and, you will be ‘throttling slowly’. Ian has hinted at drug empire logistics for awhile…what with references to the Silk Road/dark web, South Florida, circling the Great Lakes, The Sun Road Montana, Canada, South of France, various Asia Pac countries. Will 2015 be the year it is all laid out for us?

  18. Guest2 said on January 1st, 2015 at 7:39 pm

    I wonder why Ian put his picture up sideways. Too much vodka or is there a message in the photo?

  19. WC Kitty said on January 1st, 2015 at 9:03 pm

    I’d say there is a message in the picture. He has a shocked look on his face. What he is trying to say with the photo is ? I’m not good at these riddles. The jet has an arrow on it (pointing to the shocked face), is refueling, the door is open with the stairs down, and with the picture being sideways, the plane looks like it’s going to take a nosedive. Metaphysically, a plane represents a lesson and where the plane is (taking off, landing, or in air) speaks to what area of the lesson the person is experiencing. So is Jolie about to be shocked sideways with her plans taking a nosedive on one of her trips? Astrologically wise, many are saying she is going to continue having hard luck for the coming year or more (and IMO she deserves it).

  20. Keane said on January 3rd, 2015 at 7:58 pm

    Ok so a jib makes the boat easier to control – it steadies it and thus enables it to go faster – Ange doesn’t have this at this point so she is rudderless. Does it mean she doesn’t have Brad to steady her? Because from the sounds of things I think they are still very much a business partnership as well as co-parents.

    Wood floats because it has a lot of air in it – Ange is full of hot air?

    Green wood turning – it is harder to turn green wood than it is other wood – and what you turn with it tends to crack i.e. what she is attempting to do at the moment is challenging and likely to fail.

    Year of the Goat – really not sure how this is relevant right now…

    Can you take us higher? is a religious reference – she is using God to sell her movie to America’s right wing audience and to help her get into the white house – obvious.

    Just what makes that little old ant
    Think he’ll move that rubber tree plant
    Anyone knows an ant, can’t
    Move a rubber tree plant

    But he’s got high hopes, he’s got high hopes
    He’s got high apple pie, in the sky hopes

    - She is hoping for the White House baby!

    Up in the Old Hotel is a collection of short stories from the time of the Great Depression which was about: visionaries, obsessives, imposters, fanatics, lost souls, the-end-is-near street preachers, old Gypsy kings and old Gypsy queens, and out-and-out freak-show freaks – so in other words, AJ is one of these.

  21. Keane said on January 3rd, 2015 at 8:24 pm

    “in a natural high” is a song about someone who obsessively loves someone from afar and thinks they can “take them to the sky in a natural high” – Ian?! lol

    ruby truncating string – a form fo shortening text – eh?

    sitting is the new smoking – lack of exercise is more likely to kill you than smoking is – don’t get how this relates to AJ

    Viral hepatitis now kills more people than HIV – so maybe this is what ails her?

    move that dope – about drug dealers

    silver dance kaleidoscope – ballet classes for older folks

    shake and go – you have your liquid refreshment and then your ready to go

    in the land of the midnight sun – somewhere cold, Norway, Greenland, Finland etc

    where rivers run free – is a reference to northern ireland – where only the rivers are allowed to run freely

    “equality is king” is a reference to martin luther king and his dream of racial equality

    laugh to see a pudding crawl – someone who is prone to fits of uncontrollable hilarity

    crying to release endorphins – it is a way of releasing stress

    I have no idea what the computer game reference means!

  22. Keane said on January 3rd, 2015 at 8:26 pm

    So yes the beginning makes sense but not the end – I have no more idea about this yet!

  23. Keane said on January 3rd, 2015 at 8:37 pm

    I get the general impression of madness, crazy aspirations and dreams, someone who is full of hot air and out of control, prone to fits of hysterical laughter, cries to release stress, self-medicates with drink and other stuff, can’t sit still, thinks she is a visionary like Martin Luther King, is she getting high on the thought of power? I.e. it is a natural high other than the other ways she typically likes to get high? The computer game reference is about trying to become one of the leaders, or one stage down from the King, because you can’t become a King in this game. So I think I am getting the general impression but am a bit short on details. The pic is definitely a reference to this cold place – wherever it may be…

  24. morris maltenburg said on January 3rd, 2015 at 8:56 pm

    @becca becks:
    Did you read the comments to that BS article…? The only thing I find credible was the statement that the huvano Scieno’s were hard at work being the PR blow me(s) that they are, working hard for their looney tooniston Jabah….

    Oh I forgot JABAh Looney…tooniston was caught again stating… regarding juicy bug head tina Eddie Munster… we know our TRUTH….what blow me ville… these pics look old anyway…

    You are a TRIP…
    But I seriously learned something about you today…
    if true…
    Blond Hair… Blue Eyes… Living in Alaska… Now that’s a total trip…
    So I have some questions for you… for one HOWS the weather… pretty cold I would guess…
    I am very happy about that… here is why… it keeps the perma frost iced up… not melting… or as badly… and restricting the release of methane based gases from releasing into the atmosphere. It has also caused mucho rain in drought ville calif.

    So what do you think of the pipeline? Do you e of oil allowance from the state…
    The part about racism up there… I absolutely believe that… not only foreign nationals, but also massive amounts of gang banging narco trafficers…

  25. Siska said on January 3rd, 2015 at 10:51 pm

    I just wonder..why most of media n comment section in blog or article,,seem so hateful and sound so petty jealous about Jen cake nomination?..they either keep banging on she hire the oscar strategist or saying she bought the award..and they always repeat same old story that Jen can not act etc..that she only relay on being ugly to get nom,,when the other actor and actress did the same thing but nothing negative coming to them,
    Most of the actress has pr.,so why Jen only pr Stephen H always being mention?
    I think they hate it’s clouded their fair judgement.
    Jen is a good actress..she has being act since almost 30 years. Either tv,big budget or independent style,,she can act.,that’s why she still work in acting business….anyway..there will be useless to talk about something more sense to people that hate her solely for being a survival ex wife of THE famous couple.
    When I read celebitchy n laney. or some us newspaper article Orr blog…I just have to laugh with the article or comment,,very childish.
    I think there are two argument the Jen hater always using,,that she is selfish for no child and she can not act.

  26. Siska said on January 3rd, 2015 at 10:53 pm

    If she suddenly has kid and oscar..they think their world will be collapse @Siska:

  27. Keane said on January 4th, 2015 at 12:51 pm


    These are paid for articles by AJ’s camp – it really is that simple.

  28. Guest2 said on January 4th, 2015 at 3:57 pm

    I think you’re right.

  29. WR said on January 4th, 2015 at 4:19 pm

    Have been thinking about this, lately. Historians probably feel it as well. I personally conversed with a history professor at a large university. I mentioned that our country is ripe for the rise of a Hitler-like dictator. He said that was “absolutely true!”

    One notices how “tolerant” society has become, of what would formerly outrage it. So similar to the rise of Hitler. Also, the restrictions about what to teach in the schools. The rewarding of the Brangelinas; the Kardashians, and others you can name, for their stardom linked with evil purpose; e.g. paid media bloggers.
    And the tolerance of such. One sees the news slanted to approval of it; spinning it to make it seem a normal thing. For example: An actress I admire, Rene Russo, (A hopeful for a supporting actress nomination), who spun the sociopath issue to make it a normal thing.

    Thankfully, we have a Christian leader, who isn’t afraid to speak out. But, this pope said last year, that he expects to be around for only 2-3 years, more. If that is so, I’d better prepare to head for the hills; ha!

    The media is very silent about Dubya’s role in all this. But there’s plenty of noise about Obama. Why? If one Is just as bad as the other, why choose only one to expose? One notices all the supermarket tabs, week after week, claiming our president is gay, as if that is a fatal blow to the presidency; and some go even further. But they don’t feature Dubya’s role in such behavior. In the past, there was an article in at least one fairly prestigious publication which revealed D’s numerous such activities, when he was younger, and allegedly bragging about it; at least until his parents intervened, and laid down the law, so to speak.

  30. WR said on January 4th, 2015 at 4:35 pm

    I, too, noticed the increasingly negative blogs about Jennifer A. There are a few positive ones, as well. It’s up to the voters to know if the manipulation is to be acknowledged. For those who care, this is what the pundits appear to favor:

    Rosamund Pike
    Julianne Moore
    Marion Cotillard
    Jennifer Aniston
    Felicity Jones
    Reese Witherspoon
    Hilary Swank
    Amy Adams
    Shailene Woodley

    Quite a tough field.

  31. Siska said on January 4th, 2015 at 5:29 pm

    Why? Did she so insecure? I mean..she already got Jen husband,and already have kids with him and she already successful in her own field..why keep putting down the ex wife? Maybe it’s the fans?

  32. Siska said on January 4th, 2015 at 5:30 pm

    @Guest2:I just don’t understand,,why bother that much about an ex wife of your current husband..if you already happy?..very strange..

  33. WC Kitty said on January 4th, 2015 at 6:42 pm

    One of the reasons may have to do with the way she got him. JA was adored by the public and it is believed by many that she trapped Pitt by getting pregnant with Shiloh. Also, Shiloh is believed to be Pitt’s only biological child out of the three that she rumored to have carried. So if the belief that she got pregnant with Shiloh in order to secure a relationship with Pitt is true, then she doesn’t really know if Pitt stayed with her because of his love for her, or because she was pregnant. A secure relationship is only as strong as the foundation on which one builds a relationship upon.

  34. Keane said on January 4th, 2015 at 6:58 pm


    AJ’s team put stories out there about anyone they see as being a threat to her supposed crown – Kate Middleton and Amal Clooney are the other targets. The reason for Jen is that she is liked by women and AJ isn’t – nobody would want her for a friend. The fact that she is so likeable exposes AJ’s flaws so they try to put her down by saying she isn’t a good actress, isn’t pretty enough, doesn’t want children etc. Kate Middleton threatens AJ because she really is royalty and has that Princess Diana connection that she is so desperate to emulate. Amal is the beautiful, intelligent, accomplished human rights lawyer that AJ thinks she is in her mind whenever she goes to the Court of Human Rights etc. All of them have to be knocked down to prevent AJ from being exposed to be what she really is.

  35. morris maltenburg said on January 4th, 2015 at 8:14 pm


    Arrest Warning Claim

    Egypt disputed Sunday a claim by British human rights lawyer Amal Clooney that she had been warned she risked arrest last year if she released a report in Cairo critical of the judiciary.

    Clooney, a rights lawyer who married Hollywood star George Clooney in a lavish Venice ceremony last year, told Britain’s Guardian newspaper that the warning had stopped her going ahead with a Cairo launch for the February 2014 report for the International Bar Association.

    But interior ministry spokesman Hani Abdel Latif questioned the source of the alleged warning.

    “She should say exactly who said that,” Abdel Latif told AFP. “Why not specify from the start who told her that?”

    “We have nothing against her,” he said.

    In the comments published by the Guardian on Saturday, Clooney did not detail the source of the alleged warning.

    “When I went to launch the report, first of all they stopped us from doing it in Cairo,” she said.

    “They said: ‘Does the report criticise the army, the judiciary, or the government?’ We said: ‘Well, yes.’ They said: ‘Well then, you’re risking arrest.’”

    The report, based on a fact-finding mission made in mid-2013, warned about the wide powers that ministers had over judges and highlighted a record of selective prosecutions, flaws that Clooney said later contributed to the convictions of three Al-Jazeera journalists.

    Clooney, who is now on the defence team for one of the three — Egyptian-Canadian Mohamed Fahmy — said the same flaws in the judicial system meant she had little confidence in the retrial ordered on Thursday by Egypt’s top court.

    She said she was focusing instead on lobbying for Fahmy to be deported under new powers decreed by President Abdel Fattah al-Sisi in November.

    Lawyers for Fahmy’s Australian colleague Peter Greste are pushing for the same outcome, while the wife of Egyptian Baher Mohamed has said she is looking at ways to get her husband out of Egypt.

    The three men remain in custody pending the retrial.

    Read Latest Breaking News from Newsmax.com http://www.NewsmaxWorld.com/GlobalTalk/Egypt-politics-rights-judiciary/2015/01/04/id/616260/#ixzz3Ntvox7hO
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  36. morris maltenburg said on January 4th, 2015 at 8:26 pm

    News UK News Prince Andrew, Duke of York

    Prince Andrew may have been secretly filmed with underage girl he is alleged to have abused

    Jan 03, 2015 23:00 By Matthew Drake

    Papers filed against his pervert pal Jeffrey Epstein say he recorded VIP orgies he threw at his luxury homes using cameras hidden in the walls

    Splash Prince Andrew MAIN
    Prince Andrew’s tycoon pal may have taken compromising photos of him with the underage girl he is alleged to have abused.

    Details buried in original court papers filed against pervert Jeffrey Epstein, 61, reveal that he recorded the sordid orgies he threw for VIPs at his luxury homes using cameras hidden in the walls of guest bedrooms.

    The woman known as Jane Doe 3 – said to be 30-year-old Virginia Roberts – claims she was held as a sex slave and forced to sleep with the Duke of York in London, New York and the US Virgin Islands.

    She says she was 17 at the time – under the age of consent in Florida.

    One of the sexual encounters with the Prince, 54, is alleged to have taken place at an orgy ­involving other underage girls on Epstein’s private island.

    The financier, who was jailed for 18 months in 2008 after pleading guilty to solicitation for prostitution, kept a sickening stash of images on a computer seized at his Palm Beach mansion in 2006.

    Splash Jeffrey Epstein’s Palm Beach mansion in Florida Secret filming? Jeffrey Epstein’s Palm Beach mansion in Florida. Prince Andrew was a frequent guest at the house.

    Lawyers representing Roberts, originally referred to as Jane Doe 102, mentioned the hidden cameras in a 27-page filing at the Palm Beach Federal Courthouse in Florida.

    The six-year-old papers, seen by the Sunday People, state: “Some of the photographs in the defendant’s possession were taken with hidden cameras set up in [Epstein’s] home in Palm Beach.

    “On the Day of his arrest, police found two hidden cameras and photographs of ­underage girls on a computer in the defendant’s home.

    “[He] may have taken lewd ­photographs of Jane Doe 102 with his hidden cameras and transported [them] to his other residences and elsewhere.”

    There is no suggestion that Prince Andrew knew Roberts was being held as a sex slave by the tycoon and she claims she first met the royal when the financier took her to Europe and North Africa in 2001.

    During a stop in London they called on his former girlfriend Ghislaine Maxwell, daughter of crooked media mogul Robert Maxwell.

    Solo Syndication 17 year old Virginia Roberts photographed with Prince Andrew

    Meeting: Virginia Roberts with Prince Andrew

    Roberts claims in the latest court documents, filed on December 30, that she first slept with the prince at Maxwell’s home.

    Court papers also allege that Maxwell presented nude pictures of her she had taken herself to Epstein as a birthday present.

    They add that Roberts’ claims that she was forced to tell Epstein all about her sexual encounters so he could use the information to “blackmail” the royal.

    She further claims she was sex-trafficked to “many other powerful men, including numerous prominent American politicians, powerful business executives, foreign presidents, a well known Prime Minister, and other world leaders”.

    Prosecutors believe Epstein, who enjoyed watching other people have sex, had cameras fitted at his other residences across the world.

    Prince Andrew – who was photographed with Roberts during a party in New York – was holed up in a luxury ski chalet in Switzerland on Saturday.

    Jae Donnelly Prince Andrew and Jeffrey Epstein Old pals: Prince Andrew and convicted sex offender Jeffrey Epstein. Buckingham Palace repeated his strongly-worded denial of the allegations.

    Prince Andrew holidayed with Epstein in Thailand in 2001 and was snapped surrounded by topless women on a yacht.

    A handyman who spent 11 years working for the tycoon claimed Prince Andrew often had massages when he was a guest at his Palm Beach mansion.

    Juan Alessi said the Prince enjoyed daily massages from young women and often emerged “smiling” after rub-downs.

    He said the massages were carried out in a private part of the mansion only Epstein and selected guests could access.

    Alessi also told how he witnessed parties at the ­waterfront mansion at which the Prince was present while young girls frolicked in the nude.

    Despite his friend’s 2008 conviction for child sex offences, Prince Andrew continued to see him and the pair were pictured together in Central Park, New York.

    The ensuing furore led to him quitting his role as Britain’s trade envoy.

    Splash Jeffrey Epstein Connected: Jeffrey Epstein is a registered sex offender but still a friend of the rich and powerful. Epstein served 13 months before he was released.

    Jane Doe’s claims against the Prince come after she joined three women in a lawsuit against prosecutors, claiming they broke the law by failing to consult them before signing a plea deal for the tycoon.

    It is understood that without the agreement he would have faced up to 15 years in jail.

    The ongoing lawsuit was filed by Brad Edwards and Paul Cassell and names the US Government as the defendant.

    The lawyers say Epstein’s treatment was “contrary to the Government’s normal approach in prosecuting federal sex offences”.

    The US State Attorney’s office in Florida still has the vile haul of images from Epstein’s Palm Beach home, which were captured on devices hidden in walls inside guest bedrooms.

    A spokesman said: “These matters are subject to ongoing litigation. We have no comment.”

    Splash Jeffrey Epstein’s Private Caribbean island Seclusion: Jeffrey Epstein’s private Caribbean island
    Ghislaine Maxwell branded claims against her as “untrue”.

    Her spokesman said: “The allegations… against Ghislaine Maxwell are untrue. The original allegations are not new and have been fully responded to and shown to be untrue.

    “Each time the story is retold it changes with new salacious details about public figures and world leaders.

    “[The woman’s] claims are obvious lies and should be treated as such. Ghislaine Maxwell’s original response to the lies remains the same. [She] strongly denies allegations of an unsavoury nature… and reserves her right to seek redress.”

    Buckingham Palace has denied “any suggestion of impropriety with underage minors” by Prince Andrew.

  37. morris maltenburg said on January 4th, 2015 at 8:30 pm

    Jeffrey Epstein profile: the billionaire paedophile with links to Bill Clinton, Kevin Spacey, Robert Maxwell – and Prince Andrew

    Many A-list celebrities broke off links with the businessman after he was conviction of having sex with an underage girl

    ANDREW BUNCOMBE Author Biography Friday 02 January 2015

    A list of people who have associated with Jeffrey Epstein over the years would take in the world of celebrity, science, politics – and royalty.

    Over the years, the casually-dressed, globe-trotting financier, who was said to log more than 600 flying hours a year, has been linked with Bill Clinton, Kevin Spacey, Chris Tucker and Manhattan-London society figure Ghislaine Maxwell, daughter of the late media titan Robert Maxwell.

    Epstein reportedly flew Tucker and Spacey to Africa on his private jet as part of a charitable endeavour. Clinton, meanwhile, flew on multiple occasions in the same plane to Epstein’s private Caribbean island, Little St James, between 2002 and 2005 as he developed his philanthropic post-presidential career. It would later be alleged in court that Epstein organised orgies on that same private island in the US Virgin Islands.

    Prince Andrew was named in the ’sex slave case’ related to banker Jeffrey Epstein Prince Andrew was named in the ’sex slave case’ related to banker Jeffrey Epstein Reports in the US media say many of the A-list names broke off any links with the former maths teacher after his arrest and conviction in 2008 of having sex with an underage girl whom he had solicited. His arrest followed an 11-month undercover investigation at a mansion in Florida’s Palm Beach that Epstein owned.

    In 2008, he pleaded guilty to a single charge of soliciting prostitution and was handed a 18-month jail sentence. He served 13 months in jail and was obliged to register as a sex offender. A 2011 report in the New York Post said that he celebrated his release from jail and his return to a property he maintains in New York – a 45,000-sq-foot eight-storey mansion on East 71st Street – with Prince Andrew.

    Bill Clinton flew on multiple occasions to Epstein’s private Caribbean island between 2002 and 2005 as he developed his philanthropic post-presidential career Bill Clinton flew on multiple occasions to Epstein’s private Caribbean island between 2002 and 2005 as he developed his philanthropic post-presidential career “I’m not a sexual predator, I’m an ‘offender’,” he told the newspaper at the time. “It’s the difference between a murderer and a person who steals a bagel.”

    Epstein, 61, was born in Brooklyn, New York, where his father worked for the city’s parks department. He attended Brooklyn’s Lafayette High School and excelled at mathematics. This helped him secure job in his early 20s as a maths teacher at the exclusive Dalton School, a private college located on New York’s Upper East Side.


    Among his pupils was the son of Bear Stearns chairman Alan ‘Ace’ Greenberg. In 1976, after a few years teaching the children of the wealthy, he accepted a job offer from Mr Greenber that allowed him to oversee their money and left to become an options trader at Bear Stearns.

    Epstein reportedly flew actor Kevin Spacey to Africa on his private jet as part of a charitable endeavour Epstein reportedly flew actor Kevin Spacey to Africa on his private jet as part of a charitable endeavour Four years later he was made a partner, but by 1982 he had left to set up his own boutique investment company, J Epstein and Co. He reportedly only accepted clients prepared to invest a minimum of $1bn, though many profiles of Epstein admit a lack of hard, verifiable facts about his business have added to the air of mystery. It is said, for instance, that Epstein forgoes alcohol and instead prefers Earl Grey tea and does yoga every day.

    Among Epstein’s early investment clients were Leslie Wexner, the Ohio-based businessman who is CEO of L Brands, the fashion and lifestyle group whose brands include Victoria’s Secret and Bath & Body Works. In 2013, Forbes magazine estimated the 77-year-old Mr Wexler’s wealth to be $7.3bn.

    Epstein reportedly flew actor Chris Tucker to Africa on his private jet as part of a charitable endeavour Epstein reportedly flew actor Chris Tucker to Africa on his private jet as part of a charitable endeavour Epstein has always been interested in science, funding scientific projects and investments around the world. In 2000 he established the Jeffrey Epstein VI Foundation, which funds science research and education globally. He has reportedly donated $30m to Harvard University, money the Ivy League institution retained despite his conviction and registration as a sex offender.

    Jeffrey Epstein has been also linked to the Manhattan-London society figure Ghislaine Maxwell, daughter of the late media titan Robert Maxwell Jeffrey Epstein has been also linked to the Manhattan-London society figure Ghislaine Maxwell, daughter of the late media titan Robert Maxwell Reports say the silver-coiffed Epstein has invested millions to research subjects such as evolution, cancer and HIV. His projects have linked him to many leading figures in the world of science and research including Gerald Edelman, Murray Gell-Mann and Stephen Hawking.

  38. Guest2 said on January 4th, 2015 at 10:10 pm

    Maybe she’s not happy. She and her “husband” have been chasing awards for years now and have not been very successful. They’ve been nominated but have not won. Her awards are from many years ago. He just got one for producing a movie but not for his acting. I don’t think they want Jen to succeed where they have failed.

  39. Siska said on January 5th, 2015 at 12:14 am

    @WC Kitty:
    I got what you said..if this is true..it seem she have a mental problem, because why spend so much energy just to sabotage your ex husband wife..when they seem to portrayed to the world that they are great happy humanitarian saint like family.
    I hope it’s just her overly obsessed fans who do that kinda lunatic behaviour..but if the Angie connection in JJ blog has some indication how they let the Jen trashing in that side running wild..I got a big suspicion she might be the kinda person you are saying..it’s sad when woman can not be success without trashing other.
    Anyway I read some Chinese prediction for this year,year of the goat, they said the good will prevail,and the evil or bad one will get punish…so let’s watch with popcorn the drama unveil..he..he

  40. Siska said on January 5th, 2015 at 12:16 am

    I mean your husband ex wife.,he nhe@Siska:

  41. Siska said on January 5th, 2015 at 12:16 am

    I mean your husband ex wife.,he he@Siska:

  42. WR said on January 5th, 2015 at 2:58 am

    I wonder if the Loonies call JA, “Maniston” to deflect from the real mannish one: Angelina Jolie. See her jawline. It is way more masculine than BP’s. It is a narrow space from her lips to her manly jawline. Not feminine. Therefore, the Loonies don’t want us to see this, and let us do the math; i.e. AJ has the real mannish features. Also her flat-as-a-pancake butt doesn’t help, much. Then, too the photo-shopping. Where is her ultra-large protruding neck veins? Jenny Shimuzu might wonder the same thing.

    A.J. can count on this: If she decides to run for office, then her opposition will have a field day. The sky’s the limit for this. But, one recalls just about a month ago, it was announced that AJ was available. There were no takers, as far as that went.

    Her faux-saintly activities is labeled as saintly by website administrators. It was supposed to be
    tongue-in-cheek; but they opened a can of worms, so to speak. They seemed to think they were veddy, veddy clever, indeed. But, surprise!…the public, and Hollyweird took it seriously. Hollywood gave her an award; I think it was The Jean Hersholt Award, which they give to some star who’s done a lot of humanitarian work. As long as it hit the media outlets. You see, if they looked into the matter more closely, they might have found that she used those African orphans for photo-shopping, and image makeover.

  43. Guest2 said on January 5th, 2015 at 8:59 am

    Jon Voight said a few years ago that she had mental problems and needed to get help. He’s her father and knows her better than we do so I think we should believe him. Normal women don’t collect children like some collect handbags and they definitely don’t kiss their brothers as they would a lover. There’s much more crazy behavior so it isn’t surprising that she would attack other women that she perceives as stealing attention away from her = Jen, Amal, George. They’ve all been the subject of nasty blind items and attacks. It wouldn’t surprise me if BP does this too.

  44. Keane said on January 5th, 2015 at 10:34 am


    It’s all about business – Angie is very competitive – she wants to be the winner – at everything and at all costs. You meet people like this in the television industry all the time – it attracts these kind of people. And I hate to say it but they do tend to be the female of the species! On the flip side there are a hell of a lot of arrogant men in the industry as well. I guess this business just brings out the worst in people!

  45. Keane said on January 5th, 2015 at 10:36 am


    I think it’s just a school yard insult with nothing else to read into it than that – they say the same about Amal as well. When I read these comments I always visualise that spoiled brat James Haven behind his keyboard typing away – I swear that is what he does for a living!

  46. Guest2 said on January 5th, 2015 at 11:46 am

    You do have to wonder what this man does for a living. I also have visualized him as one of the “loons” along with the “God daughter” and the paparazzi cousin. Who else would be so invested in her? But from what I’ve seen lately at FF I think she may have outsourced some of this nonsense to Portugal.

  47. WC Kitty said on January 5th, 2015 at 1:50 pm

    Are you by chance talking about Ma****c? :lol:

  48. WC Kitty said on January 5th, 2015 at 1:53 pm

    Also, when was the last time that Dear Ol” Jaimie was seen with his sister? I don’t keep up with him, but I think that some have alluded to the fact that they may have had a fallen out. Maybe it was because he wasn’t fulfilling his posting quotas and therefore had to hire the poster mentioned above.

  49. morris maltenburg said on January 5th, 2015 at 6:57 pm

    Its so funny…. Now that its all over the place…
    Giada Delooney… getting banged by multiple guys at once, and boobie flayed is a maqssive cooooooooke head,
    Guess things are not so nice in pari pari no panties dice…. This is so funny…. well, guess ole juju looneytoonies and the other fooodies noodles… just blew themselves in public… guess those fresh wholesome brands just went up in smoke….

  50. Guest2 said on January 5th, 2015 at 8:23 pm

    @WC Kitty:
    Yes, that’s the one. Did you see that AJ is getting an aviation award? Amelia Earhart would be so jealous, lol.
    Maybe she’s being recruited for scientology.


  51. WC Kitty said on January 5th, 2015 at 10:10 pm

    :shock: What the heck! Why is she getting an award? Like one poster asked, when was the last time she ever flew a plane? Now, she does spend a lot of time being flown, but really! It just may be because of Scientology since Travolta is giving her the award, because otherwise her children should get the award for spending their childhood living on a plane.

  52. Guest2 said on January 5th, 2015 at 10:30 pm

    @WC Kitty:
    I can see the cult trying to recruit her but doubt they could exert any control over her or get her to part with her money. Nothing makes any sense with these two, you read these things and just shake your head. Speaking of the cult, whatever happened to Cruise? You hardly ever see him any more.

  53. becca becks said on January 6th, 2015 at 1:15 pm

    This married A+ list mostly movie actor was without his wife at an event this weekend and made the most of it. One of the staff at the event who was his escort ended up back in his hotel room where they had sex. He told her to be discreet. She is selling the story so I don’t know how discreet that is. Brad Pitt “Palm Springs Film Festival”

  54. siska said on January 6th, 2015 at 4:37 pm

    It must be exhausted to be competitive all the time..maybe that’s why she soo skinny..n Jen so chill..
    BTW I watch some Jen interview .recently.she is so down to earth n grateful..one of the interview from sag foundation..its has some funny bit when she talk about her old movie she’s the one which she respond that its so unbelievable that her character husband didnt want have sex with her..and she said the husband is narcissistic.. N the audience laugh..sort of think its an implied about her ex? He he

  55. siska said on January 6th, 2015 at 4:39 pm

    Maybe that competitive thing made her survive on HW world longer..but its tiring.
    Anyway I agree that plenty of male as doing it..and I think they dominate more in HW..

  56. Keane said on January 6th, 2015 at 4:40 pm

    @becca becks:

    I just don’t believe either one of them would do it without a confidentiality agreement – they aren’t stupid!

  57. siska said on January 6th, 2015 at 4:48 pm

    I watched Jen other interview DP/30 in you tube..I love it..she so humble n grateful.. Plus he manage to ask her about her opinion about the leaked email thing almost the last of interview.. And she answer with such emphaty..which she seem actually sort of defending AJ..she think the name calling is rude…this is why I like her.. A good human being.from this interview also cemented to me why she don’t work much with top dog natarious director..she really dislike rude people.

  58. siska said on January 6th, 2015 at 4:53 pm

    Yep I’m with u..they got brain money n power to navigate their affair behind close door..it only will be public knowledge if they want to leaked it..plus if they can’t help prevent to leaked, they always have their proven deflection tactic..he..he

  59. Guest2 said on January 6th, 2015 at 5:03 pm

    @becca becks:
    Sometimes I think they themselves are the source of these blinds to keep people talking about them. We know that the one thing not going on in that relationship is fidelity. I remember reading a blind item last year about a man who had his girlfriend handcuff him during sex, then they lost the key and he had to go naked to a locksmith to get the cuff removed. The popular guess was JA/JT. The blind was so stupid that I thought it might be something JT made up as a goof on BIs.

  60. Keane said on January 7th, 2015 at 1:40 pm

    Love to the families of the atrocities in Paris – we are living in a truly evil world.

  61. rushdog said on January 7th, 2015 at 1:45 pm

    Jolie – well, our girl is up to her shameless promotion the remaining days before Oscar voting closes: aviation award, humanitarian announcement yesterday and in Rome for a stop-by photo with The Pope supposedly for this weekend. That’s all this is – movie and self promotion – nothing more. The People wedding spread was to sell themselves as a married couple because that would sell better to the Christian base that was needed for the movie box office. It just doesn’t get any more obvious since she’s gotten such limited recognition via nominations. You think they’re going to split, or make it look like they are, to drum up interest in the other movie later this year? Betcha that’s the marketing plan. JMO

    And that’s all it is – marketing and self-promotion. Nothing to do with anything special. Not faith, not family, not good parenting, not talent or intelligence, not excellence in artistic creativity, not values or work ethic, not humanitarianism. They are just sell, sell, sell the image. Such a shame that so many people buy it as reality. But, hey, that’s what Brangelina count on. (nobody looks too closely that way)

  62. rushdog said on January 7th, 2015 at 2:17 pm

    Yes, such sadness. It really puts what is important in perspective, especially when compared to hw award whoring.

  63. siska said on January 7th, 2015 at 8:04 pm

    I just read the Jen interview in NYT..good piece..I like how more open she is in interview..I think this is the real Jen..btw she mention about her ex bf who died of brain tumor..she said he might be the one true love that getaway n send Justin to her

  64. Guest2 said on January 7th, 2015 at 9:12 pm

    I take the illuminati conspiracy theories with a big grain of salt but then I see something like this and I think there’s got to be some truth there. Looks like big brother came out of hiding.


  65. Guest2 said on January 7th, 2015 at 9:13 pm

    I liked her television interview where she went back to the restaurant she worked at when she was just starting out in New York. Were you able to see that in Australia?

  66. Guest2 said on January 7th, 2015 at 9:17 pm

    We truly are. I hope they find the men who committed this evil act.

  67. siska said on January 8th, 2015 at 1:17 am

    Yes I saw it..its great..I saw in youtube

  68. siska said on January 8th, 2015 at 4:38 am

    I just wonder.. When news of the world being sued by brangie.. Did we knew how they settle it?..its just retraction n $ compensation or some other deal? Because aj well known for making deal with media for positive image..I think that’s the NYT posted years ago regarding people mag photo deal

  69. Guest2 said on January 8th, 2015 at 5:10 pm

    Just when you think it can’t get any stranger, they show a movie at the Vatican about a Catholic who became a Protestant and rejected the Catholic church and then the Pope greets the atheist who made the movie. Why is no one in the media commenting on the absurdity?


  70. Guest2 said on January 8th, 2015 at 5:51 pm

    OMG, I cannot believe I am seeing this. Someone please explain this shit to me.


  71. WC Kitty said on January 8th, 2015 at 7:43 pm

    From what I read, the Pope didn’t see the movie and met with her for about 5 minutes. Since he didn’t see the movie, he probably gave her the benefit of the doubt of whatever she said as in what the movie was based on and how she regained her faith. The look on his face is probably because he knew that he was being used. A true believer wouldn’t use the church/God for their own selfish promotional benefit. She really makes me ill. :evil:

  72. Guest2 said on January 8th, 2015 at 8:54 pm

    @WC Kitty:
    He may not have known what the movie was about but surely the people who made the arrangements to have it screened did. This is the same institution that taught me as a child that Catholics are the only true Christians and the only ones who go to heaven. Not that I believe the lie but the hypocrisy disgusts me. Money must surely have exchanged hands. She is shameless…I can’t tell if she’s flirting with him or if they are both evil ones exchanging knowing glances. And why does she only have her hands on Shiloh? That photo is all kinds of creepy. I truly despise this woman, she makes me sick. I can understand why Brad distanced himself from this.

  73. morris maltenburg said on January 8th, 2015 at 11:03 pm

    @WC Kitty:
    Thats what I love about you. You’re always on top of it. Shameless is to good of a description to describe her BS. She has always been a shameless atheist, period. Jelly Azz Butt Head isn’t much better either. Her quotes for the day are her supposed boyfriend whom supposedly died of brain cancer…. I call BS.

    Here is why … From approximately 1990 onward her BF was Charlie Schlatterly… and in approximately 1994-1995 Tate Donovan… what BF in 92-95 died of brain cancer… answer… NONE!!!

    My adoptive father died of an Astrocytoma Grade 4 Malignant Brain Tumor which had metastasized. He had been retired from the US Naval Nuclear Submarine Service only a few short years before passing. I will always remember his personal suffering the last two years of his life. He passed at the age of 59 years.

  74. morris maltenburg said on January 8th, 2015 at 11:09 pm

    @WC Kitty:
    Kitty…. She makes everyone ill… She is so self absorbed…. what would you expect? Just because your faith is real, doesn’t mean we won’t experience this moving forward in time. This is the kind of crap that atheists do. We obviously will see more of this. Pure posturing. These fame whores are just that, a couple of poseurs.

  75. morris maltenburg said on January 8th, 2015 at 11:09 pm

    I am still shocked that Pope Francis gave her audience.

  76. morris maltenburg said on January 8th, 2015 at 11:19 pm

    Whats even funnier is all the bull shit she said she was doing in NY at the time. She was on a short lived show in the early 90s that was eventually cancelled built off of the movie Ferris Bueller. That’s where Charlie Schlatterly came in,, then a brief time, very brief time came Tate Donovan. Jelly Azz Butt Head is a big gigantic Liar hose bag… not to much different than Town Pump…

  77. Keane said on January 9th, 2015 at 10:37 am


    In Europe it is because our minds are all focused on the terrorist attacks in Paris right now and the news is completely dominated by stories about the ongoing development of this. AJ’s meeting handshake with the Pope is very far down the news agenda. I guess AJ will have to hope that stunt gained more attention in the US (where most of the Oscar board of selection committee will be based) than it did in Europe. Over here we are more concerned about defending the rights of our journalists to have freedom of speech, and the very brave cartoonists and police officers who died to protect that right. The endless self-serving machinations of women like Jolie do not interest people when our citizens’ lives and the values of our society are at stake.

  78. Guest2 said on January 9th, 2015 at 2:42 pm

    What happened in Paris is horrific and we should all be concerned about that. I understand that would dominate the European news. It is all over the news here as well. Still, this crazy, narcissistic woman is using the figurehead of a worldwide religion to further her selfish, materialistic ambitions and she deserves to called out on it. Although I am no longer a strict Catholic I still found this very offensive. I am annoyed with the Vatican for allowing this.

  79. Guest2 said on January 9th, 2015 at 2:58 pm

    So Jolie admitted in a recent magazine interview that she and Pitt married in CA before the wedding in France. I tend to believe they’ve been married for a long time and the NOTW story was about them divorcing but, for some reason, it was delayed. I’m not sure why the wedding ceremony took place when it did. Maybe they needed the money from the pics or they wanted to be legally married when their WWII movies came out since they appeal to a certain demographic. They also would need to be publicly married if they are ever to divorce. I think that Clooney posting his marriage license was a taunt to the brand to show everyone their license which of course they didn’t do. I agree with those who think that something is about to come out.

  80. Keane said on January 9th, 2015 at 3:07 pm


    I think the worst thing that can happen for Jolie is that her stunts are ignored and no-one is talking about her. I just think that the events in Paris have highlighted how little anything she does is worth talking about and she has been pushed way down the news agenda. When you’re talking about journalists and police officers who died for their beliefs you cannot see more clearly that AJ stands for nothing and risks nothing. She is entirely self-serving. I just think that once these things start to happen on your home turf her PR stunts become meaningless and are simply ignored. Literally no-one cares that AJ met the pope in the UK right now and I would imagine the same is true for the rest of Europe. It just shows how unimportant everything she does is.

  81. WR said on January 10th, 2015 at 4:00 am

    Pope Francis stressed the importance of the poor in his pontificate. He’d be easily fooled by AJ, because he is a simple man. He’s simple, not un-intelligent. He could have wondered where her family is, and who takes care of her kids while she’s traipsing all over the world; but he probably doesn’t follow the inside stuff. He’s probably aware of the Queen’s honorary dame title given to AJ. I’m not too good at this sort of thing.
    So the pope would be easily used for AJ’s agenda. Matter of fact, another top manipulator, Oprah, was mixing with Brangelina at some show.

    Evidence of Oprah’s manipulation tactics? Not exactly news. But a couple of years ago, she campaigned for an Oscar for acting in “The Butler”. And she messed up somewhat when she was over in Switzerland, and claimed she was a victim of racial discrimination. Who would dare to treat her as “less than”? Why, it was a shop girl in a pricey store. When that hit the papers, the poor girl was saying, “Why me?”…and explained she is an ordinary working girl, and now her job may be in jeopardy. O’s tactic backfired. The story was depicted, as: Oprah Winfrey, the billionairess, versus the poor Swiss shop girl. She didn’t get the Oscar nomination.
    But there was more to the story. There was a Blind Item from a reputable site. It reported that a movie with Jane Fonda in it was given raves for her performance. Raves that said Jane Fonda gives one of the all-time great female performances. Then, it was claimed, an actress in the same picture, coveting a supporting actress Oscar nomination, went to the Director, and had a meeting. The director was reluctant, but he was pressured to cut much of the rival actress brilliant scenes. The actress responsible was said to be OW.

  82. WR said on January 10th, 2015 at 4:03 am

    There’s a news story just out, today. It reports that the HFPA accidentally revealed the movies that won Best Drama, and Best Comedy: “Selma”, and “Into the Woods”. We’ll know Sunday.

  83. WR said on January 10th, 2015 at 4:06 am

    R.I.P. Rod Taylor. Rod Taylor had a devoted cult following here in the USA. The Australian was in some cult favorites, like “The Birds”; “Young Cassidy”, and “Time Machine”. He was in many tv shows, as well, as co-starring with popular stars, like Doris Day.

  84. Guest2 said on January 10th, 2015 at 8:56 am

    I wonder if the Vatican knows that they screened a movie about a man who was born and raised Catholic who then renounced Catholicism to become a Protestant. I believe they were paid to screen the movie and have the Pope greet jolie. It’s the only explanation that makes any sense to me.

    I remember that blind about Oprah, she is quite the manipulator.

  85. WC Kitty said on January 10th, 2015 at 4:02 pm

    I’m not Catholic, but I’ve read that just about anybody can meet the Pope. The Pope supposedly never screens anybody’s movie, so he also didn’t watch Jolie’s. Knowing Jolie, she probably twisted what the movie was about in order to get a meeting (monetary donation is also possible), concentrating on the main character’s religious awakening (hardly shown {heard it was at the end on cards aka last minute addition to appease the evangelicals]) and especially her’s (cough, cough). In the photo, it looks to me that he realized he’d been played. I’ve heard rumors about the Vatican, but they also have a reputation to maintain for the public. The Pope could have given her the benefit of the doubt (her story) since she probably agreed not to use the Vatican for her own selfish needs, and then realized he/The Vatican had been played. This whole scenario shows how over-the-top :evil: she is.

  86. WR said on January 10th, 2015 at 6:12 pm

    Here’s a “What If” scenario to mull: Suppose AJ was converted to Roman Catholicism, after her visit to see the pope. Now, here’s the thing: ALL her sins of the past would be wiped clean, at her baptism. Her soul would be white as snow!
    But, before any such conversion, she’d have to publicly apologize for what she did to JA. She’d have to call off the bloodhound loonies. She’d have to apologize to all members of the industry; the political arena; the media, and just everyone she used. Then, she’d have to overcome her power mania, as well.
    She’d be free!

    The Brangeloonies would lose their idol. Think of how lost they’d be! No more paydays from their current source. Or, it could happen that some of the loonies would follow AJ’s lead.

  87. Keane said on January 10th, 2015 at 7:01 pm


    Someone commenting here predicted some years ago now that AJ would eventually convert to Catholicism and run for office – I totally forget who it was but remember thinking that they could not be serious. Now I think they were probably quite prescient. Crazier things have and are happening.

  88. Guest2 said on January 10th, 2015 at 8:29 pm

    I don’t see how that would help her. We’ve had only one Catholic president in the US and he was assassinated. She’d be better off as a Methodist or Presbyterian or even Episcopalian. But being the saint that she is, she could probably reconcile the various Christian religions into one and become the spiritual leader of all Christians. In fact, she is so wonderful and fantastic I’ll bet in time she could wrap the Muslims, Jews, Hindus and Buddhists into her one religion and take over the world. God better watch his back. You are right, crazy things are happening and nothing really surprises me anymore.

  89. morris maltenburg said on January 10th, 2015 at 8:39 pm

    @WC Kitty:
    yup on the new stand today at the grocery. went shopping today.

    Then there was a TABZ about Town Pump freaking and tweeking over her dad’s girlfriend, a soon to be divorced mother of 2 children, found with a gunshot wound to the chest, ruled a suicide, yet still a mystery…
    Apparently Town Pump is besides herself!!!

    Then Jelly Azz Butt Heads supposed first true loves name was revealed, one Daniel Mc Donald. The one that died of Brain Cancer, when she was 25 years. Hmmm… she was 21 in 1990, 25 in 1994, was with Schlatterly 20.5-22.0 (supposedly a raging inferno of super hot sex) then was immediately shortly thereafter with Tate Donovan, so when did this guy die…. supposedly Daniel McDonald died of brain cancer all right, at the age of 47, in the year 2007, he was the one that got away…. ole Eddie Munster must have sent him….. maybe sent him with his faggot cock packing it up his arse… who actually writes all of this bull shit????
    the huvano Scieno Faggot Heads must have been BUTT PHUCKING each other while writing this crap…. So then they do their lil oscar meyer weiner up their butt hole dance… while spewing this shit!!!

  90. Keane said on January 10th, 2015 at 8:45 pm

    Just watching Mr and Mrs Smith on the telly box right now. I never really realised before that it’s supposed to be a comedy except I don’t think anybody ever mentioned that to Brad and Ange! I wonder whether their whole love story/affair controversy was really just a stunt to prevent a dud film from dying on it’s area. Call me cynical!

  91. WC Kitty said on January 10th, 2015 at 8:48 pm

    You people are scaring me. It would be a nightmare for all if she gained any political power. Of course it is her main mission in life to have a position of power if she is a sociopath as I believe her to be. As Keane pointed out, she would have to apologize to a whole list of people in order to become a Catholic. Sociopath’s only apologize when they will gain something they desire, so she could do that, but she’d become baptized in another religion before she’d do that. On the other hand, she’d have to apologize in order to deflect her past. She really has backed herself into a corner and I feel she’s becoming unglued. Her lies are beginning to become apparent to more as she has gone overboard with her PR stunts and now she has two targets to conquer – JA and Amal Clooney. The Clooney’s are in a better position for gaining political power IMO.

  92. Guest2 said on January 10th, 2015 at 9:01 pm

    @WC Kitty:
    I don’t think it’s that easy to meet the Pope, at least not one on one. The Dalai Lama couldn’t. The Pope refused to see him, or so I’ve read, and he is the exhiled spiritual leader of Tibet. I think he also refused to meet with Russell Crowe on the Noah’s Ark movie. Not sure about Mel Gibson and The Passion of the Christ. But he met with this crazy, trashy American actress and her two kids. She’s now finagled meetings with both the Queen and the Pope. How is she doing this?

  93. Guest2 said on January 10th, 2015 at 9:13 pm

    @WC Kitty:
    I’m getting scared, too. But I agree with you that Clooney is in a better position to obtain policitcal power. She’s too nuts plus she’d have to ditch the hobo that she’s married to. I think she should go to the UK where she could use her damehood to run for office there. She hates being in the US anyway.

    On a positive note, the New England Patriots beat the Ravens but they had us chewing our nails for a while.

  94. WC Kitty said on January 10th, 2015 at 9:19 pm

    According to what I just read, Russell Crowe did meet with the Pope, though it was on the third try. As for the Dalai Lama, it is said that the Pope holds the Dalai Lama in very high regards. The Pope refused a meeting with the Dalai Lama because of the delicate situation between Tibet and China. China views the Dalai Lama as a troublemaker and the Vatican hasn’t had relations with China since 1949. AJ comes across as a person who’ll do just about anything to get what she wants, so she must have pulled something in order to get a meeting so quickly.

  95. WC Kitty said on January 10th, 2015 at 9:24 pm

    LOL, Keane wouldn’t be very happy if her damship ended up in with a political position in the UK. I believe the Clooney’s will be taking up residence there, so it would be good for some entertainment. Did you read the post over at FF that claims that George and Amal are already heading for a divorce? Must be a Jolie fax! :roll:


  96. Guest2 said on January 10th, 2015 at 9:27 pm

    They were both at the height of their beauty then so acting ability or lack thereof didn’t matter. If it was a stunt then who is the father of the golden child?

  97. Guest2 said on January 10th, 2015 at 9:34 pm

    @WC Kitty:
    I read that and thought it as a jolie fax. That machine sure is kept busy, isn’t it? I like “her damship”. Maybe we could change it to “damnship”. As for Clooney, can he run for governor of CA with residency in UK? I’m looking forward to the GG’s tomorrow to see what Amal and Jen wear. The red carpet is fun to watch. I also like Tina and Amy, they’ve been entertaining the past couple of years. I’d love to see Jen win, for her sake, but also to rub it in the jp’s faces.

  98. WC Kitty said on January 10th, 2015 at 9:52 pm

    +1 :lol: popcorn time!

    Yes “her damnship” is better and is what I meant to type. :oops: Thank you for pointing out the best/correct version! :) “her damnship” it is! :)

  99. WR said on January 10th, 2015 at 11:26 pm

    I have heard repeatedly, from an ex-Catholic male, who happens to be Sicilian, that everything happening today is orchestrated by Obama and the rich. Well, I thought he was alone, in his feelings about Obama being behind it all: (All the border illegals crossing into America; all the anti-white people rhetoric in the media; all the race wars, etc!) Lo and behold, a very, very hard-core right winger, and almost the epitome of a totally righteous Catholic, told me the very same thing, today. And he doesn’t confer with the other guy. To continue his belief: The border crisis is mainly the doing of Obama and the liberals. Since he is a teacher and a professor; knows five languages, and still researches, he went on a rant about historical dramas; esp. The Fall of Rome. He thinks America is doomed, since the illegals are used to dictators, and that one is going to arise.

    Other than both of them, women who confide in me, have told me they sense something bad happening to America, as a whole.
    Well, the latter statement is one I believe in.

  100. WR said on January 10th, 2015 at 11:38 pm

    Here’s an update on the Oscar pundits predictions: Three are considered certain nominees: Julianne Moore, Rosamund Pike and Reese Witherspoon. Marion Cotillard and Felicity Jones are thought likely to be the other two.
    Jennifer Aniston has had some good publicity, but she is considered not a sure thing, mainly because the other candidates have much stronger films. The way it works, is if she has a strong role that voters can identify with, she might just make the cut. Then, who would be left out? That is the question!

  101. WR said on January 10th, 2015 at 11:49 pm

    @WC Kitty:
    She’d also become an easy target for the ruthlessness of politicians. One wouldn’t have to be a right-winger to go after her. And if she thought she has it easy with all the loonies attacking the victim of her adultery, she has much more thinking in the offing is she’s even capable of that.

    Will her health, physical, mental and emotional, be able to withstand the rigors? The only thing one can think of, is her “bodyguards” will shield her from the media as much as possible; the media that she doesn’t own, that is. It would be a major version of what Scientology does for its prize members.

  102. WR said on January 11th, 2015 at 12:13 am

    Those of you who are longtime readers of this site will know that we predicted the rise of AJ a long time ago. We repeatedly referred to The Hitlerian Lie!
    For newer readers/lurkers, THL is what is initially said/done by the perpetrator. At first, the morality of the public is outraged; then the lie is repeated, (as the loonies have done) over and over again. Gradually, the public starts to accept, and even promote the liars. Eventually, the liars are rewarded generously by the adoring public.

    We warned back then, that the young will be severely affected by this phenomenon. We predicted that the young will think wrong is right, and right is wrong. There’s plenty of evidence out there, that we are right. But it was only those of us who know something about history, warning those who don’t even think about it, what would happen.

    AJ is like a robot. We notice her very large irises, with the blank stare.
    She has learned a lot from Scientology, even if she’s not a member.

  103. Guest2 said on January 11th, 2015 at 1:32 am

    I agree with the women. I believe there are bad people running things but I don’t know who they are anymore. As for Obama allowing illegals into the US I think it’s true but it’s been going on for a long time, long before he got into office. Our politicians don’t want to secure borders or win a war on drugs because if they wanted to do it they would. Not all of them but the good guys are outnumbered by the greedy, corrupt ones.

  104. WC Kitty said on January 11th, 2015 at 3:16 am

    Illegals have been crossing the borders for a very long time, so Obama didn’t start it. They are another stepping stone for the wealthy to become wealthier. They have been working the fields picking our vegetables and fruit as migrant workers. Many have been working as maids and gardeners for hotels and for the wealthy. They are known to illegally work in production plants and in construction. I can remember when most construction guys were American and then all the sudden in the 80’s that all changed and many were then all speaking Spanish. Employers/owners often mistreat them, provide them with horrible living conditions, and don’t pay them since they are illegals and can’t complain without being sent back to where they come from. I remember walking into a LA hospital emergency room back in the early 90s and the entire room was filled with Hispanic people who didn’t have insurance. Employers hired them so they stayed and then the worker or their family gets sick and somebody else pays the bill.

    People can blame Obama or whoever they want, the reality is that these people keep coming here because they can find work up here and as long as they keep getting hired, they will keep coming. If it keeps lining the pockets of the wealthy then I doubt it will stop. Some are probably getting wealthy just from supposedly protecting the border.

  105. Keane said on January 11th, 2015 at 10:21 am


    Hm I’m not sure just simply having too hot co-stars would really sell a film though. Especially one that is this bad. Jolie was not a big deal at all when the film came out so it was really being sold on Brad alone. They are both atrocious at comic acting and turn a witty script into an absolute cringe-fest – it is bad. I think the romance between them was a good way to deflect from that, sell it on the basis of their smoking hot chemistry etc and turn an another-wise loss-making film into a smash. Jolie gets knocked up and then Brad is stuck with her and the business agreement begins. I don’t believe their romance was genuine for more than a matter of months or one or two years.

  106. rushdog said on January 11th, 2015 at 8:30 pm

    I agree. Not more than two years. I’ve long felt it would have been publicly over in ‘08 except for the “twins”. I think he went from one beard to another. AJ is a master manipulator…. he just can’t keep up with her game. And I’m betting some of the blinds about him are true and he f&cks up now and then, Gotta cover that up and protect image. jmo

  107. rushdog said on January 11th, 2015 at 8:33 pm

    Going to predict GGs:

    best actress comedy = JM
    best actress drama = JA

    GGs mix it up a bit.

  108. morris maltenburg said on January 11th, 2015 at 9:46 pm

    @WC Kitty:

  109. Guest2 said on January 11th, 2015 at 9:49 pm

    You’re probably right. I don’t recall ever seeing any real affection between them, at least not in the last few years. No affection toward the children either for that matter.

  110. morris maltenburg said on January 11th, 2015 at 9:50 pm

    Inquiring Minds would like to know wouldn’t they…. You’re right… Lizzie Lizard… Then Pope Francis????
    What in the hell gives? Something just isn’t right!!!

  111. Guest2 said on January 11th, 2015 at 9:53 pm

    I read that JM gave the better performance in that movie (can’t recall the name) rather than Still Alice. I hope JA wins what BP’s been chasing all these years. From what I’ve read about her performance she has a good chance.

  112. morris maltenburg said on January 11th, 2015 at 10:02 pm

    Well one thing is for sure… WE’RE ONLY INTO THE FIRST 2 WEEKS OF 2015… and we’re already on the slide!!!

  113. rushdog said on January 11th, 2015 at 10:11 pm

    Ok., wrong on the first one. Can we say Harvey W.? So, JM will be best in drama.

  114. Guest2 said on January 11th, 2015 at 10:22 pm

    I agree. Too bad.

  115. WR said on January 12th, 2015 at 12:17 am

    The “Korean woman” on the GG is not skinny enough. i.e. if she’s a commoner.
    This show is a good showcase for Oscar campaigning. I watched it because; frankly, I don’t know many of the celebs that people talk about. And it reminds me how cutthroat the business is. Yet, some manage to charm us, even if it’s for show. Some come across as very sincere, indeed.
    Meryl S. seems phony, to me. Same with Oprah. But that’s JMO. One that doesn’t count with those two.

  116. LG said on January 12th, 2015 at 4:29 am

    @morris maltenburg:
    Can’t say I disagree

  117. Guest2 said on January 12th, 2015 at 10:45 am

    The show was actually kind of boring compared to other years. The jokes were, for the most part, not funny though the opening joke of calling everyone despicable minimally talented spoiled brats seemed to be a slam at AJ and I read that someone thanked Scott Rudin. Don’t really know who deserved to win as I haven’t seen any of the movies other than The Grand Budapest Hotel but from the trailers I’ve seen of Theory of Everything it seemed that Redmayne deserved to win. Cumberbatch looked like he was going to cry when he didn’t win and I thought Julianne Moore was incredibly smug when she won. I thought Clooney gave a pretty good speech. Didn’t like Amal’s dress or the goofy white gloves. Reese Witherspoon looked very nice, Amy Adams’ dress was ill fitting on the bodice and I didn’t care too much for Jen’s dress – it looked awkward when she was climbing the stairs. That’s my commentary on the Globes which I’m sure is of interest to no one, lol.

  118. Guest2 said on January 12th, 2015 at 2:27 pm

    I was just reading this – didn’t know that BBT said in an interview that he always wanted to sleep with Jennifer Aniston. BBT also says that the Coen Brothers are his friends so maybe he didn’t appreciate AJ trying to throw them under the bus with her comments on the Unbroken script. AJ is getting slammed left and right. She is brining about her own downfall. Rudin was right, her ego knows no bounds.


  119. WR said on January 12th, 2015 at 3:26 pm

    Many bloggers are saying it was a boring show. I did miss the multi-nominee shots just before the announcement of the winner(s). That, to me, contributed to the lack of excitement.

    Pundits are absolutely positive that the Oscar winners will be: Boyhood; its director; Michael Keaton; Julianne Moore; Simmons, and Arquette.
    I usually tape the show and watch it later; sometimes years later; Ha!

  120. WR said on January 12th, 2015 at 3:29 pm

    Well, tonight is The National College Football Championship. Will watch with others, to see if Ohio State’s momentum is still on. Those of us on the Pacific Coast mostly root for Oregon.

  121. Keane said on January 12th, 2015 at 6:18 pm



  122. Keane said on January 12th, 2015 at 6:32 pm


    Yes I agree it was boring – apart from the bit when Eddie Redmayne won – what a star he is!

    You can see why the GGs and the BAFTAs generally try to get Brange to attend these things though. Without their tabloid-esque escapades the whole thing is a bit flat isn’t it?

  123. Guest2 said on January 12th, 2015 at 7:45 pm

    The video’s not available in the US. Too bad, it sounds funny.

  124. Guest2 said on January 12th, 2015 at 7:57 pm

    This is the interview with Billy Bob Thornton where he jokes (I think it’s a joke but maybe not) about wanting to sleep with Jennifer Aniston. I’ve never heard him speak in an interview, he’s certainly not without charm. I can see why jolie was attracted to him.


  125. Siska said on January 12th, 2015 at 10:25 pm

    @Guest2:I can’t see the video..but it seem he like to stir some controversy and sarcasm joke? Btw his co star in Fargo was Tom Hanks son…which we knew are long time friend of Jen..
    Plus..I think most will choose Jen over Reese and Kiera ,,because both officially married and with kid..plus Jen seem more easy going,,

  126. Keane said on January 13th, 2015 at 8:12 am


    I honestly think BBT was just a press stunt to cover up her relationship with her brother. I followed a link to one of the clips someone posted at FF and couldn’t believe what the video one of the posters there have on their avi. Angelina kissing her brother on the shoulder in a seductive way and then kissing him on the cheek but going to kissing him on the mouth – think he is the one who pulled away. Her PR team had to go crazy on her PR to drown that stuff and BBT was the man to do it with (they have the same agent after all). When you look at those images and clips of Angelina kissing her brother you cannot believe this woman has serious political aspirations. I would imagine James is still the most important person in AJ’s life to this day. I think Brad and all the other men were just sperm donors and useful career leg-ups.

  127. Guest2 said on January 13th, 2015 at 1:17 pm

    That may be true about BBT. There are too many pics taken at different times of AJ/JH kissing in a way you would never, ever even think of kissing a brother but that avi at FF shows just how creepy their relationship is. How BP got locked into a relationship and breeding with this crazy woman is beyond me. There must be something wrong with him, too. I don’t know if she has political aspirations but I think she cannot get enough of the limelight and is desperate to be thought of as the most important and beautiful person in the world. Scott Rudin described her perfectly and I think much of HW is now in agreement.

  128. Guest2 said on January 13th, 2015 at 1:22 pm

    Too bad you can’t see the video. He was actually quite charming and humble. I’ve never seen him interviewed so really didn’t know much about him other than the crazy pictures with AJ. And, yes, much rather Jen than Reese or Keira regardless of the children. Though I do like them both as actresses.

  129. Guest2 said on January 13th, 2015 at 2:43 pm

    This is a funny thread about jolie being disrepestful when meeting with the Pope. One poster suggested she should have worn the white getup she wore with the British veterans and they could have been the pope-sy twins. The more she tries to one-up everyone the more of a fool she makes of herself.


  130. Keane said on January 13th, 2015 at 4:09 pm


    I guess the Pope thing was staged to coincide with the GGs and to try to compensate for the fact that she was snubbed for a nom. Sadly for her though whatever she paid for that photo opp (and they would have had to have made a sizeable donation to pull it off) went to waste as she was completely overshadowed by world events. I think with AJ the mantra always is: if you can’t win at what you want to win at (acting) then try to win at something else (supposed triumphs in your personal life, “humanitarianism”, “directing” etc and now “politics”. AJ for me is a classic childhood under-achiever who is now obsessed with trying to win prizes and accolades and “recognition” at all costs. Most people get it out of their system by the time they’ve left college, but Ange I think has never really grown up. Her and her brother are like two spoilt teenagers roaming the world trying to convince everyone they went to school with that really they should have both been picked for homecoming queen and king at the prom. So tragic.

  131. WC Kitty said on January 13th, 2015 at 4:13 pm

    That is a funny thread! :)

    IMO, this is a good thread also! Her loons are just as ignorant. Did you read the thread where one loon states that they go to Chinese class (as in learning the language)? :lol:

  132. Guest2 said on January 13th, 2015 at 5:46 pm

    @WC Kitty:
    I read that. Chinese classes in the country of Asia, no doubt. Even without being at the GG she is entertaining us. I hate to admit it but I think Keane is right that without the OTT brand antics the show was a tad boring. I so hope that they bring back Ricky Gervais to host, he is by far the funniest. Probably won’t happen, though.

  133. Guest2 said on January 13th, 2015 at 5:47 pm

    What’s tragic is what they’re doing to those children. The innocents don’t deserve to have their privacy sold like that.

  134. Guest2 said on January 13th, 2015 at 5:48 pm

    I wonder what People Mag and the other one in Europe think about paying all that for fake wedding pics.

  135. Guest2 said on January 13th, 2015 at 5:48 pm

    all that MONEY….

  136. WC Kitty said on January 13th, 2015 at 6:41 pm

    I don’t normally watch those type of shows, but enjoy reading the reviews and looking at the photos. The “Brand” does provide for entertainment, but those in attendance probably got tired of those two taking the spotlight off of those who are deserving. After all, the people who are involved in the entertainment industry deserve recognition for their work. Most of them are also inclusive when it comes to sharing the spotlight with those involved. When it comes to those two, they still others limelight since it has to be all about them. So now, they are entertaining us in other ways.

  137. Siska said on January 13th, 2015 at 7:08 pm

    @Guest2:I like his speech on GG..and he seem very excentric,arty and weird type….I read about his meltdown in the Canada radio before..
    Anyway…it bring free pr for him…he knew how to play with media..there is nothing like bring up the triangle to got plenty of coverage..
    But it been very interesting to read all the comment from the site who pro AJ,,

  138. Guest2 said on January 13th, 2015 at 11:47 pm

    It brought him a lot of attention for sure, as he knew it would. I’ve always thought him weird and creepy but he seemed less so in that interview. Maybe he stopped drinking and/or taking drugs. He looked cleaner than he’s looked in the past but I still wouldn’t date him, lol.

    I can’t believe how crazy the AJ fans are going over this. It’s very strange. By the way, I thought you were brave to comment at FF. I totally get what you were saying about Jen upping her game with her production company. I’ve thought that for a long time. I’m not sure that brad is the brains behind Plan B’s successes but I think his name probably helps him get support from the big studios.

  139. Keane said on January 14th, 2015 at 1:16 pm


    I always wonder what her relationship with them must be like. The nannies do all the care-giving. She works long hours “directing” films, doing “humanitarian” and “political” stuff, campaigning for parts in films, campaigning for awards, doing a huge amount of press, endorsing brands such as Louis Vuitton etc etc. How can she possibly have any time to spend with them at all? Do they see her as this sort of strange, distant, lady friend who checks in on them, waves and says hi now and again. I just can’t see how they could ever get any more time with her than that. I am fact convinced that the most time they get to spend with her is when they are doing photo pops. Which is why they always look so distant from her and you never see them hugging or kissing etc. It will be interesting to hear what they have to say about their upbringing when they become of age.

  140. Guest2 said on January 14th, 2015 at 3:09 pm

    Don’t forget the time spent drugging and drinking. The probably say, “oh no, we have to go with the witch lady again and get our pictures taken. I hope she buys us a good toy”.

  141. siska said on January 14th, 2015 at 6:39 pm

    He..he..I knew.. I’m digging myself with that comment..its just in my mind for sometime.. I trully want Jen success the same as clooney..why not? He..he….I think even though I don’t know the truth.. I have to admit that Pitt plan B is thriving n produce big movies..he has good people behind it..but he also contribute.. His name bring the money…

  142. morris maltenburg said on January 14th, 2015 at 7:35 pm


    Volcanoes ARE cooling Earth: Aerosols from small eruptions have reduced global temperatures and tropical rainfall

    Volcanoes may have cooled the Earth by 0.05°C to 0.12°C since 2000
    Scientists had overlooked the role of aerosols from small eruptions
    The aerosols accumulate between the stratosphere and troposphere
    This layer of the atmosphere is difficult to study as clouds obscure it
    Eruptions through 1990s and 2000s have contributed to warming ‘pause’
    Global temperatures plateaued since 1998 after rapid warming in 1990s
    The findings mean models predicting climate change need to be revised

    By Richard Gray for MailOnline

    Small volcanic eruptions over the past 20 years have been protecting the Earth from global warming, according to a new study.

    Scientists have confirmed that droplets of sulphur-rich aerosols spewed into the upper atmosphere by volcanoes have been reflecting sunlight away from the Earth.

    Until recently it was thought that only particularly large eruptions had any noticeable affect on the climate. Eruptions of volcanoes like Tavurvur in Papa New Guinea in 2006 had a greater impact on the climate in the past 15 years than had previously been appreciated and may require climate models to be revised

    Eruptions of volcanoes like Tavurvur in Papa New Guinea in 2006 had a greater impact on the climate in the past 15 years than had previously been appreciated and may require climate models to be revised.

    However, the new study has confirmed results from the end of last year that showed these small eruptions can have an accumulative impact on global temperature.

    This could have helped decrease the global temperatures by between 0.05°C to 0.12°C over the past 15 years.

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    Instead of eruptions, some scientists claim one of the causes of the ‘plateau’ in sea-surface temperature is a change in the exchange of ocean water.

    They believe this exchange is occurring between warm, surface waters and cold, deep waters below 2,300ft (700 metres) – as if the warming is ‘hiding’ underwater.

    Easterly trade winds of the Pacific Ocean have increased significantly over the past two decades and as a result are blowing higher volumes of warm surface sea water to deeper depths.

    Stronger trade winds blowing from South America to Australia have had the net effect of cooling surface temperatures by a global average of between 0.1°C and 0.2°C,

    This would be enough to account for the apparent hiatus in global average temperatures over the past 15 years.

    The warm water won’t hide below the surface forever: scientists believe that it may re-emerge later or affect other climate indicators, such as sea level or ocean circulation.

    Since 1998, the warmest year on record, the steep increase in global temperatures seen during the 1990s has levelled off, failing to match computer model predictions for climate change.

    This pause, or hiatus, has been blamed on weak solar activity and increased uptake of heat by the world’s oceans.

    The UN’s Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change last year concluded that the deep oceans had been responsible for absorbing an increasing amount of heat, but warned that this could not continue indefinitely.

    However, in a paper published in November last year, atmospheric scientists at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology found that small volcanic eruptions in the early 21st century, which had been largely overlooked, were responsible for up to a third of the hiatus in warming.

    Now researchers at the Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory, in California, have found signs of the effects from eruptions from the late 20th century and early 21st century in the atmospheric temperature, moisture and amount of sunlight reflected from the atmosphere.

    They also found that the eruption of Pinatubo, a volcano on the island of Luzon in the Philippines, which last erupted in 1991, also caused a drop in tropical rainfall.

    ‘The fact that these volcanic signatures are apparent in multiple independently measured climate variables really supports the idea that they are influencing climate in spite of their moderate size,’ said Mark Zelinka, a climate scientist at Lawrence Livermore and one of the authors of the new study.
    This graph shows average land and ocean temperature anomalies between 1961 and 1990 around the world

    This graph shows average land and ocean temperature anomalies between 1961 and 1990 around the world
    Small eruptions from volcanoes like Japan’s Mount Ontake throw sulphuric acid and aerosols into the air but many of these may have been accumulating unnoticed as a layer between the troposphere and stratosphere

    Small eruptions from volcanoes like Japan’s Mount Ontake throw sulphuric acid and aerosols into the air but many of these may have been accumulating unnoticed as a layer between the troposphere and stratosphere. The apparent mismatch between observed temperature increases and predictions from climate change models has led to some to claim that global warming has stalled, as seen by the black line in the graph above.

    The apparent mismatch between observed temperature increases and predictions from climate change models has led to some to claim that global warming has stalled, as seen by the black line in the graph above

    ‘If we wish to accurately simulate recent climate change in models, we cannot neglect the ability of these smaller eruptions to reflect sunlight away from Earth.’

    The findings confirm the work of Dr David Ridley, a climate scientist at MIT who was the lead author on the November study on volcanos.

    He found that droplets of sulphuric acid and aerosols were accumulating at the intersection between the stratosphere and troposphere layers of the atmosphere.

    Using ground, air and space based instruments, Dr Ridley and his colleagues were able to get a better estimate of the aerosols accumulating in these layers, around six to nine miles above the Earth’s surface.
    Globally, there are thousands of volcanoes, like this one in Russia, throwing aerosols into the atmosphere

    Previously they had been missed as most satellite measurements of volcanic aerosols are restricted to the parts of the stratosphere higher than nine miles as cloud cover can interfere with measurements below that.

    This means, particularly around the poles where the stratosphere extends down to six miles above the surface, a significant chunk of volcanic aerosols were being missed.

    He estimated that that since 2000 volcanoes may have caused cooling of between 0.05 degrees C and 0.12 degrees C.

    Dr Benjamin Santer, who led the new study, said: ‘This new work shows that the climate signals of late 20th- and early 21st-century volcanic activity can be detected in a variety of different observational data sets.’
    Incredible footage of Iceland’s Bardarbunga volcano (Related)

    Professor Ross McKitrick, an environmental economist from the University of Guelph in Canada, said the results could mean that climate models that are used to inform policy decisions are inaccurate.

    If volcanic eruptions are masking some of the impacts of greenhouse gases like carbon dioxide, then the climate may be more sensitive than previously thought, or changes in aerosols could be responsible for some of the temperature changes attributed to carbon dioxide.

    He said: ‘If small variations in volcanic activity turn out to have larger and more persistent climatic effects than previously thought, this should have important implications for how climate models are parameterized and how greenhouse gas attribution studies are done.

    ‘The study seems to me to raise the possibility that commonly-used historical reconstructions of volcanic dust forcing may not have been all that reliable.

    ‘Climate modelers rely on dust veil indexes that use measures of known historical volcanic activity to estimate optical effects in the atmosphere.

    ‘These are then used to estimate natural forcings over the 20th century, which are then used in greenhouse gas signal detection (attribution) studies.

    ‘If the historical reconstructions weren’t capturing the full magnitude of volcanic effects on the climate, as this study suggests, that presumably means those attribution studies need re-examination as well.’

  143. Guest2 said on January 14th, 2015 at 7:48 pm

    I think the goal of Jen’s company is to produce smaller films about strong women since there aren’t that many good roles for older women. Unfortunately, Hollywood is still controlled by men and those are not the movies they’re backing. Truth be told, none of the movies her company has in development sounds that interesting. Maybe Goree Girls if she gets the right cast and the music is good but I’m not convinced. I hope she doesn’t do Mean Moms, that sounds like a stinker. She and Kristin should bring in another partner. Maybe they can steal Dede Gardner or the other guy from Plan B.

  144. siska said on January 14th, 2015 at 8:06 pm

    I knew Jen want woman theme movie..but that also can be Blockbuster if got the right director n scriptwriter..
    She don’t need plan B people for it..she can do it if she wanted..I think she is a bit lay back..not too ambitious..
    BTW do u read the latest uproar from Jen innocent comment about her first love..wow..hwr ex bf brother n her ex bf widow..really drum up the PR with it

    Specially the widow..she seem so angry for Jen to mention about her first love
    .which she never disclose the name,but her brother in law did….and Jen haters use it for too l to attack..and its so close to Oscar nom announcement.. Mm conspiracy or coincidence?

  145. siska said on January 14th, 2015 at 8:11 pm

    BTW goopy being interview regarding brad..and Howard who is close with Jen,seem to want people to get idea that goopy is Brad true love or the one… Mmm its interesting..it seem Jen want to get away from the triangle .I hope it work..I want the brangie fans to stay away from Jen.
    I think sometime the brangie fans n pro media keep bringing Jen to it..because it sell more..and more PR..

  146. Guest2 said on January 14th, 2015 at 11:22 pm

    I saw the widow’s story and pictures at the DM. I wish Jen had not talked about him. I had a feeling this would come back to bite her. My guess is that the family was paid for their story and the photos. He sure was a handsome man with a beautiful family. I can see why she regrets letting him get away. In my opinion, the worst thing that ever happened to Jen was marrying brad.

    I read Gwyneth’s comments about brad. Strange, isn’t it? First BBT says he wants to sleep with Jen and now GP says she regrets breaking up with brad. Seems everyone wants to get in on the triangle while Jen wants to get away from it. I wonder what’s going on.

  147. Guest2 said on January 14th, 2015 at 11:24 pm

    Brad looked his best with Goop and Jen, he’s a mess since hooking up with jolie. She is too. Don’t think they bring out the best in each other.

  148. becca becks said on January 15th, 2015 at 11:07 am

    No, AA nomination for JA…. :(

  149. Keane said on January 15th, 2015 at 2:30 pm

    @becca becks:

    Or AJ! :-)

  150. Guest2 said on January 15th, 2015 at 3:58 pm

    @becca becks:
    I was disappointed, too, but I think her movie is so small it did not get screened for enough members to get her enough votes for a nomination, at least that’s what I read somewhere. She’s still done well this season with all the other nominations and hopefully that will be enough for her to get better roles. I’m glad Amy didn’t get the nom, I find her a tad annoying. Of all the AA nominees I think MC is the most talented (and beautiful).

    And, as Keane said, neither did AJ and she sold her kids like crazy in her chase of the awards. Even the fake wedding didn’t work.

  151. Keane said on January 15th, 2015 at 4:39 pm

    So – the minimally talented spoiled brat could not campaign/buy her way to an Oscar nom for her mediocre attempt at directing – anti-rape political conference, honorary dame hood/photo opp with the Queen, meeting with the Pope and all. Nothing could persuade a group of her peers to honour work that simply is not good enough and to give acclaim to someone who cannot be liked by the industry for all her press manipulation and holier-than-thou behaviour. Unfortunately for Jolie, not everything in life can be bought and not everyone in life can be persuaded to like her on the basis that she wants them too. Now go away and hide under a rock for a year or two and give us all a break while we watch work and artists that have earned it get given the recognition they deserve.

  152. Siska said on January 15th, 2015 at 5:00 pm

    @Guest2:And Jen can’t get nomination,,seem someone campaign against her work..damn it,,

  153. Guest2 said on January 15th, 2015 at 5:37 pm

    That’s possible and we can guess who it is. But don’t forget that the Academy is made up to a great degree of older white men and Jen has made some comments about sexism in Hollywood. That might have turned off some of the old goat voters. She also did not have a powerful studio backing her campaign. I think for the size of her movie and small budget she has done remarkably well getting three big nominations. I hope she wins one of the two remaining awards, that would be quite an accomplishment for her and should open some doors to better roles. But I’m supremely happy that even with the help of the Queen and the Pope jolie was completely shut out. Oh, and didn’t she say at one point that God even cleared up the weather for her when she was filming Unbroken?

  154. morris maltenburg said on January 15th, 2015 at 5:44 pm

    Jennifer Aniston’s First Love’s Widow: She Wasn’t With Daniel McDonald in Illness, Final Days
    Us Weekly
    4 hours ago

    Jennifer Aniston First Loves Widow: She Wasnt With Daniel McDonald in Illness, Final Days
    …Love lost. Jennifer Aniston made headlines last week when she spoke about her now-deceased first love, but the man’s widow has a different story to tell.

    Aniston, 45, first mentioned her late ex in an interview with The New York Times on Wednesday, Jan. 7. “He was my first love — five years we were together,” she said without naming the man, who later died from brain cancer. “He would have been the one. But I was 25, and I was stupid. He must have sent me Justin [Theroux] to make up for it all.”

    While there were few clues to the man’s identity, his widow came forward to Inside Edition on Wednesday, Jan. 14. Mujah Maraini-Melehi addressed Aniston’s revelation, and her relationship with her late husband, whose name was Daniel McDonald.

    “Daniel and Jennifer had a relationship over 20 years ago, when they were both still very young. She made a life choice, but so did he,” she said in a statement to the program. “I am sorry that Jennifer did not realize the treasure that was Daniel when she had the chance, long before he and I met and long before he died. It pains me to read the headlines that allude to her losing him tragically when in fact she was not present during his long and difficult illness.”

    Before his untimely death at the age of 46 in 2007, McDonald was a working TV, film, and Broadway actor. He made appearances in episodes of Sex and the City, All My Children, and Law & Order, was featured in 1998’s Jaded and 1995’s Let It Be Me, and starred in the stage productions of Steel Pier and High Society. He was also the father to two children, Fosco and Ondina, now adolescents, with Maraini-Melehi.

    “Perhaps Daniel’s gift was to teach her how to love, and to appreciate what she has with [fiancé] Justin Theroux,” Maraini-Melehi continued to Inside Edition of Aniston. “Those of us who knew Daniel well can assure you that he would not have approved of all this uninvited attention due to his past relationship to Jennifer. I lost my husband. My children lost their father.”

  155. morris maltenburg said on January 15th, 2015 at 5:46 pm


  156. WR said on January 15th, 2015 at 8:36 pm

    AJ certainly campaigned hard for what she actually thought she deserved. On another note, OW did the very same. In fact, much of the tone of the campaign was that voters who don’t vote for “Selma” are racists. It was implied. But, BP beat her to the race a year, before. He seemed to give deep thought to what would appeal to those old fogies who hold such power. One could see his choices were directed to that group.

    And, AJ had that “illness” which she seemed to hope would get her some sympathy votes. Now, she has run out of illnesses, methinks. AND, that “narrow escape” in that alleged traffic accident didn’t quite work out as planned.

    It seems to me, that voters still think of JA, as “Rachel”. Many bloggers felt the publicity, about “the man that got away” was ill-timed.

    Anyone for Irony? Before AJ could hope for a nom, she’d have to overcome CE. Remember, several years ago, they were at an awards show, and CE looked at AJ like he well-remembered their “encounter(s)”? His direction got her a nomination for Best Actress. Many an onlooker could cite several actresses who deserved the nom much more than her that year!

  157. Guest2 said on January 16th, 2015 at 12:21 am

    Julianne Moore won best actress at the Critics Choice Awards. Unbroken won nothing. Jolie was there without brad even though he was nominated for best actor in a action movie. The other Bradley won for American Sniper. I wonder if the tabloids will start running stories about the brand breaking up. If Jen had been there without Justin the tabs would go crazy with breakup stories.

  158. siska said on January 16th, 2015 at 2:17 am

    The press always has different perception toward Jen n Angie…everyone can shade n put down Jen.. And usually Angie is untouchable..its just the way the cookie crumble.. He..he

  159. siska said on January 16th, 2015 at 4:18 am

    And I’m right just look at daily mail article about critic choice..Jen is upset because she isn’t win but Angie is happy for her lost..its always jen the loser narrative..

  160. Guest2 said on January 16th, 2015 at 1:29 pm

    I saw that. That paper is a brangeloonie gushing about how she outshined everyone. That waxy face maybe. To me she looked like she just escaped from Madame Tussaud’s Wax museum. Don’t you think it’s strange that brad didn’t go to the awards with her, especially since he was nominated for a best actor award? I think he stayed away because he was afraid she’d do something crazy and embarrass him.

  161. siska said on January 16th, 2015 at 5:01 pm

    She wore dress a bit too old for her..she like to appear older than she was..maybe that her style? I’m too bit strange why Pitt not attended, its not like they have to baby sit their kid,because they attended together stuff when the kids much younger…or maybe he got chicken pox? It can be infected…anyway this year seem Oscar don’t want anything to do with the triangle. All of them get snubbed. Amy Adams.Lego movie,Ralph h,some of people get snubbed. Its gonna be lower rating Oscar,even the host its not Ellen.

  162. Guest2 said on January 16th, 2015 at 6:15 pm

    It’s a boring show even if someone you like is nominated or hosting and it’s always too long. We pretty much already know who’s going to win anyway. Julianne Moore will win for best actress and either Redmayne or Keaton will win for best actor. They have a strange way of choosing nominees. I don’t understand how the Grand Budapest Hotel could get so many nominations, including best picture and best director, and the two lead actors got no noms at all. Ralph Fiennes (sp?) and the lobby boy actor made the movie. It wouldn’t have been nearly as good without them. When they expanded the best picture category to 10 they should have expanded the best actor/actress/director categories to more than five.

    Oh well, I’ll watch the red carpet to see the gowns, that’s the best part. The I’ll watch Downton Abby.

  163. WC Kitty said on January 16th, 2015 at 7:30 pm

    Guest2, I like your description of Jolie looking like “she just escaped from Madame Tussaud’s Wax museum.” She has gone too far with the surgery’s on her face IMO. The sixth photo on page six on the link below really shows it. The dress style was okay, but belonged on someone who didn’t need all that heavy padding that you could tell Jolie was wearing. The color was awful on her too. Then there is that awful wig she placed on her head. IMO, the entire way she was dressed goes along with what many think of her. The color was an ice blue/grey which doesn’t display warmth. A lot of the photos during the awards show her displaying her biotch face.

    It was strange that Pitt wasn’t there, but IMO they have been done for a long time. Jolie’s face looked like she had been crying so….?

    I will look at the photos and read about the Oscars. I love watching Downton Abbey. :)


  164. Keane said on January 16th, 2015 at 8:14 pm


    I think it’s because they’ve been called out as being a “camp event”. They are trying to downplay themselves a bit now as a couple because they know they have over-egged it. The Oscars don’t want anything to do with them all because like us, they are over them. They want to focus on the talent and the work. They know the tabloid trio have had their day.

  165. Guest2 said on January 16th, 2015 at 9:47 pm

    @WC Kitty:
    Those eyes. She looks like she’s out of the looney bin on a weekend pass. I think the BG is there to keep her under control, a minder. There’s an older woman there, too ,dressed in black with glasses and a blonde pony tail. I think they’re both minders. Brad hired babysitters for her. Is Donna Langley the new Amy Pascal in her life?

  166. Guest2 said on January 16th, 2015 at 9:57 pm

    Neither of them did Oscar worthy work. I thought Jen might get a nom because she got three other nominations and praise for her work but it didn’t happen and it could be because she’s a tabloid staple. She can have a good career but she has to kill and bury the triangle. When asked about it in interviews just say it’s ancient history, move on. End of story. The other two are their own worst enemies, they are a match made in hell.

  167. morris maltenburg said on January 17th, 2015 at 12:24 am

    I can’t help but think that you really are a “DOLT!” The whole triangle Bull Shit is just that, they’ve always been in it together. When are you going to wake up and realize that. They have known each other since the mid 80(s)… JA, & AJ, & BP…. Since the 80(s)… They all are liars, and always will be liars. It goes well beyond these three as well… The whole industry is based upon total bull shit.

    Think about it… BP is repped by the Huvane’s, Jennifer Aniston is repped by the Huvanes’s, John Ass-hole-ston Sr. has always been Scieno, John (Jon) Voight has always been Scieno, BP may be on the list as being former Scieno, yet he was involved for years. AJ may not be recognized as Scieno, nor JA, even though she (JA) toyed with it for years. Kirsti Fuckbag Alleyway just came out again extolling the view’s of the Scieno’s, all the while denying how she fully and completely mistreated Leah Remini publicly after she left the Scienos, same thing for Nicole Kidmann, and now Katie Holmes as well. When do you quit living in Lalalalalalala land?

    Yup… well stated. I think he was absent for many reasons.
    Yup… which is most especially weird… You have to remember the published media regarding ole Brad Grey lighting the Top Kuntster up at his (BG) birthday party for constantly running his mouth about everything Scieno. It waqs seriously strange that ole Pitiful Fuckbag wasn’t around. Its equally as weird that Town Pump is miraculously over the Chicken Pox.

    I completely disagree. Jelly Azz has made a ton of money off of the tabloid and Papz trash. She has become irrelevant, wealthy without doubt, but irrelevant. I personally look forward to the day she is never heard from again.

    I knew Chris Kyle personally, I was in the bar/pub the night of the reunion in downtown Coronado, I was there when blow hole Jesse Ventura came in as well. No one will ever be able to plumb the depths of my sadness at Chris Kyle’s loss, most especially because I am a former Jarhead (Marine Corps.) Just to let you know, Taya Kyle’s dad is former Marine Corps. We both grieve at Chris’ loss, he will always be sorely missed.
    Taya was very reluctant about the movie from the get. Chris’ dad wasn’t to happy either. Just remember, when Vice Admiral Pybus, and Rear Admiral Losey published their letter, along with Master Chief Margarici, their respective views are very very very clear. I seriously hope that Matt Bissonnette, Marcus Luttrell, Robert O Neil, and Jonthan Gilliam found it worthwhile to write their books, with the clear hopes of being seen in the media and Hollywood. Chris is just as dead, with small children and a beloved wife left alone. Remember Michael Monsoor, he was the person that jumped on a grenade to save his buds. That’s what it was really about. Not forgetting the Monsoor family either. No one won in this deal. Yet further, when all of these books came out, these people blew cover for all of the 6′ers, all of those still on the line. All of those still serving, and their families. You people need to see truth for what it really is.@WC Kitty:
    And You WC Kitty… I have to tell you… I love, loove, looove, loooove that little Kitty… I love her pic… that little kitty’s pic always brightens my day… You are very lucky… Your views are really close in my view. AJ is so strange its not funny. She is not the same person she was as a child. HW is far far far more seriously dangerous than most people will ever realize. Very seriously dangerous.

    Let me give you another example. I have know Giada Delaurentis (really DeBenedetti) since she went to UCLA, long before she was ever famous. You have no idea how she has suffered with all of this BS. She is also repped by the Huvanes. Starting to see???? They all knew Lisa…..

  168. siska said on January 17th, 2015 at 2:22 am

    Love downtown abbey..my fav was mary..I’m leaving in LA LA land he he..love my romance
    I’m with you that Oscar this is year a bit predictable the winner,Keaton n Moore will win and boyhood will took best picture…I love Ralph ..but not yet watch the grand Budapest.I only watch Gone girl..and I think Pyne did good job.

  169. siska said on January 17th, 2015 at 2:28 am

    Live..not leaving sorry

  170. WR said on January 17th, 2015 at 3:26 am

    I think it was George C. Scott, who likened the Oscars to a beauty contest. Humphrey Bogart, famously said that all the nominees would have to play the same role. He suggested Hamlet; before they could halfway judge the nominees. Then, he campaigned, almost door-to-door, in Beverly Hills. At least, that was what was reported. He felt Marlon Brando was going to win, for his portrayal of Stanley Kowalski.
    Speaking of Brando, he said that children could give better acting performances than many an adult actor. He was very unpopular amongst the Hollywood elite. He could have been nominated in 1950, for his work in “The Men”; but they gave the nomination to Spencer Tracy, for his “Father of the Bride”. It wasn’t until “On the Waterfront”, that he finally won. He was happy to win. If he hadn’t, it would have stood out, because he clearly gave a legendary performance. Even his closest rival, Bing Crosby, for “The Country Girl” conceded that Brando was the best.
    Woody Allen, despite his numerous nominations had no use for Oscar.

    Contrast these legends, with Brangelina, for instance. They act like they’d sell their soul for one of these false idols. Almost biblical, isn’t it? But the way some of them act when they win. Still remember Gwyneth Paltrow and Hilary Swank getting all blubbery. Then, they say things like they are just glad to breathe the same air as their rival, Meryl Streep. That’s why I stopped watching the Oscars; it got too disgusting.

    The host of “Jeopardy” must be a die-hard fan. Almost every show has a category about Oscars. Here, he has a forum to teach the public many new things, and he chooses a popularity contest to foist on viewers.

  171. WR said on January 17th, 2015 at 3:32 am

    Re: my first paragraph, above: Bogart did win; for “The African Queen”. Brando beat Bogart, when he, Brando, won. HB was nommed for “The Caine Mutiny”.

  172. morris maltenburg said on January 17th, 2015 at 3:26 pm

    I figured this fit in here today.

    Here’s the reason this all-women’s college cancelled its yearly ‘Vagina Monologues’
    By Ashe Schow | January 15, 2015 | 1:15 pm

    Mount Holyoke College’s theater group says the play has problems with class, race and “other identities.” .

    The “Vagina Monologues” was once a yearly tradition at Mount Holyoke College, an all-women’s school in Massachusetts. But not this year.

    The reason? Apparently the show is no longer feminist enough and actually hurts women because it doesn’t include monologues from trans-women. Suddenly, the most feminist play in America is both transphobic and racist.

    “At its core, the show offers an extremely narrow perspective on what it means to be a woman,” wrote Erin Murphy, a representative for the school’s Theatre Board, said in a campus-wide email obtained by Campus Reform. “Gender is a wide and varied experience, one that cannot simply be reduced to biological or anatomical distinctions, and many of us who have participated in the show have grown increasingly uncomfortable presenting material that is inherently reductionist and exclusive.”

    Murphy also said the play has problems with class, race and “other identities.” Campus Reform’s Yvonne Dean-Bailey reports the play will be replaced by a collection of student monologues — similar to those in “Vagina Monologues” — but that includes selections that are trans-inclusive.

    For those keeping track, Mount Holyoke — again, an all-women’s college — recently expanded its admissions policy to accept applications from transgender students.

  173. morris maltenburg said on January 17th, 2015 at 3:29 pm

    This is like parsing the word….. “IS.”

  174. morris maltenburg said on January 17th, 2015 at 3:35 pm

    “Hillbilly Cluckston”….. I didn’t have SEX with that young woman……………….

    Hildebeast The Gnu Roaming the Serengeti Plains…………. He was menstruating to her… oops… I mean mini-strating to her… ooops.. I mean administering….. oooops… I mean ministering to her….

    Ya don’t Say…………….. hahahahahaha

  175. morris maltenburg said on January 17th, 2015 at 3:59 pm

    Teen ‘sex slave’ diary: Epstein didn’t want ‘black girls’

    By Laura Italiano

    January 17, 2015 | 6:00am

    Modal Trigger

    Teen ‘sex slave’ diary: Epstein didn’t want ‘black girls’

    Jeffrey Epstein

    Epstein ’sex slave’s’ disturbing diary entries

    Teen ’sex slave’ diary details alleged tryst with Prince Andrew

    Hillary ‘furious’ over Bill’s ‘part’ in latest sex scandal

    Epstein took ’sex slave’ on trip before ‘pimping her out’

    Prince Andrew’s freaky ­financier pal Jeffrey Epstein was not only a pedophile but a bedroom bigot, too, according to a woman who claims she was his teen “sex slave.”

    Epstein would bed as many as seven young girls — some as young as 12 — each day, but never black girls, Virginia Roberts told her lawyers, according to a transcript of the conversation that was filed in court.

    “There was a constant influx of girls coming in and going out. And we were all very young,” Roberts said of being part of Epstein’s ever-growing teen harem for three years, ending at age 17, according to a transcript filed as part of a 2014 federal case in Palm Beach, Fla.

    When lawyer Jack Scarola asked the now-30-year-old Roberts what Epstein’s preferences were when she was sent to find him new recruits, she answered, “Young, pretty, you know, a fun personality. They couldn’t be black.”

    She added, “If they were any other descent other than white, they had to be exotically beautiful.”
    Roberts says she was already a victim of sex abuse when she was first taken to Epstein’s Palm Beach mansion to give him a “massage.”

    “A close family friend has sexually abused me, and I was on the streets at 13 years old,” she told her lawyers. Soon after that, “I was picked up by a 67-year-old man named Ron Eppinger — who did exactly what Jeffrey did with me: abuse and violate my youthfulness,” she said.

    Eppinger, also of Palm Beach, died in disgrace at age 78 in 2006, having served time for sex trafficking and money laundering.

    “I was with him for six months . . . Jeffrey actually knew Ron, which was quite weird,” she said.

    Roberts, now a mother of three in Australia, garnered headlines this month with her lascivious allegations that Epstein pimped her as a “sex slave” to Britain’s Prince Andrew.

    According to what Radar Online calls Roberts’ “secret diaries,” Andrew still had his ex-wife, Sarah Ferguson, on his mind. “Just recently divorced, you could tell there were some fresh wounds,” she wrote.

  176. morris maltenburg said on January 17th, 2015 at 5:00 pm

    War Over A New Documentary
    Business Insider
    By Peter Jacobs 21 hours ago
    Church of Scientology Los Angeles
    FREDERIC J. BROWN/AFP/GettyImages Pedestrians walk past the Church of Scientology along Sunset Boulevard in Hollywood, California on July 9, 2012. The Church of Scientology hasn’t seen a new documentary on its practices, but is already attacking it, publishing a full page ad in The New York Times Friday accusing the film of reporting false claims about the controversial religion.

    The Scientology ad calls out “Going Clear: Scientology and the Prison of Belief” director Alex Gibney for supposedly not allowing the organization to respond to claims made in the film.

    Specifically, the ad asks if the documentary is “a Rolling Stone/UVA Redux” — a reference to a now-notorious article in the magazine about rape at the University of Virginia.

    “The church’s forceful response risks calling attention to what might have seemed like old news,” Michael Cieply of The Times reports, and “guarantees a combustible debut for a movie that is scheduled to make its premiere at the Sundance Film Festival on Jan. 25, and will screen in a small number of theaters before reaching a wide audience on HBO, beginning on March 16.”

    Here’s what the ad looked like in Friday’s Times:

    According to The Times, the church is taking issue with interviews with former members and film clips of the church’s practices.

    Scientology representatives “said they were entitled to address claims in a movie that was built heavily around on-camera interviews with … former adherents who have painted a picture of declining membership and abusive practices within the church.”

    HBO is also being extra careful to make sure the documentary is solid, expecting protests and litigation from the church. Last year, HBO Documentary Films president Sheila Nevins told the Hollywood Reporter that “We have probably 160 lawyers [looking at the film].”

    They may have good reason to worry. New Yorker writer Lawrence Wright’s expose of Scientology — “Going Clear: Scientology, Hollywood, and the Prison of Belief,” which serves as the basis for the documentary — was plagued by protests from the church, which led to the cancellation of the book’s publication in the United Kingdom.

    HBO also has a history with the church, according to the Hollywood Reporter:

    This is not the first time HBO has tussled with the Church of Scientology. When the network aired the 1998 documentary “Dead Blue: Surviving Depression,” throngs of protesters converged in front of HBO’s midtown Manhattan headquarters, lambasting Nevins and the company for presenting antidepressant drugs in a positive light (Scientologists are opposed to psychiatry).

    Former Scientology members, though, hope that this new film will have the power to force major shifts within the church.

    “I hope this movie increases public pressure for the church to change its abusive practices,” one former Scientology member told The Times.

    This former member specifically highlighted the practice of practice of “disconnection,” according to The Times, “under which members of the church break contact with friends, family members or associates who are deemed to have become hostile toward Scientology.”

    Fkerpants 4 hours ago

    The following letter, written by L. Ron Hubbard, was discovered by the FBI during its raid on Scientology headquarters. The letter shows Hubbard turned Scientology into a “religion” for financial reasons:

    DEAR HELEN 10 APRIL 1953


    The arrangements that have been made seem a good temporary measure. On a longer look, however, something more equitable will have to be organized. I am not quite sure what we would call the place – probably not a clinic – but I am sure that it ought to be a company, independent of the HAS [the Hubbard Association of Scientologists] but fed by the HAS. We don’t want a clinic. We want one in operation but not in name. Perhaps we could call it a Spiritual Guidance Center. Think up its name, will you. And we could put in nice desks and our boys in neat blue with diplomas on the walls and 1. knock psychotherapy into history and 2. make enough money to shine up my operating scope and 3. keep the HAS solvent. It is a problem of practical business.

    I await your reaction on the religion angle. In my opinion, we couldn’t get worse public opinion than we have had or have less customers with what we’ve got to sell. A religious charter would be necessary in Pennsylvania or NJ to make it stick. But I sure could make it stick. We’re treating the present time beingness, psychotherapy treats the past and the brain.

    And brother, that’s religion, not mental science.

    Best Regards,


    nyingma113yahoo.com 8 hours ago

    While I acknowledge the producers of this film in having a goal of getting Scientology to eliminate some of its more abusive practices such as disconnection-which is very real, in spite of what Kirstie and her ilk say-I think the best protection against this cult is not to join this cult under any circumstances. I did join fresh out of high school back in 1972 when my personal life was in a shambles, but soon recognized them for what they were and left the orgainzation. I still have to figure out how to pay them the 999,000 years I owe them on my 1 billion year contract I signed when I joined the Sea Org, their ‘elite’ and para-military branch. Ah well, let them bill me!

    Anthony 14 hours ago

    I have yet to hear anything good about this crime organization calls itself a church. Intimidation, brainwashing, dehumanization, personal attacks, following people home and a host of other unscrupulous activities seem to be the main staple of this corrupt organization from several unrelated documentaries I’ve seen. They can be very vicious and ungodly people to defend their money making operation which they call a church. Some of these documentary have included testimony of L. Ron Hubbard (founder) himself and relatives of high ranking officials.

    Malcolm 14 hours ago

    It is my understanding that Hubbard boasted to a fellow SF writer, I think it was either Heinlein or Asimov, that he could start a religion to suck in the stupid and gullible and he would make more money than he ever made writing Science Fiction.
    Cruise and Travolta, you listening?

    Roy 3 hours ago

    Another cult for some gullible Americans to grab onto. Similar to Islam, Scientology requires it’s believers to follow Hubbard’s laws and precepts w/o question. Forrest Gump’s Mom was right-Stupid is as stupid does!

    Brad 14 hours ago

    Scientology is almost as zealous about how their religion is depicted as Islam is. Almost.

    john 5 hours ago

    I wonder if they will sue anyone who comments on this article.

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    I Am Watching You 5 hours ago

    Oh America with your psychotic religions, 254 of them at present but always room for more. lol

    Come to Clearwater Florida & pull up a chair by the Scientology HQ & just watch the robots as they wear their uniforms & march around from building to building, eerie.

    Only in America !

    Alan 5 hours ago

    Scientologists demand freedom of religion but fall short when it comes to freedom o[john]

    john 5 hours ago
    South Park already did it. And in perfect form.

  177. morris maltenburg said on January 17th, 2015 at 5:08 pm

    No more Whoopi Cushion….. Nah nah nah… Better call al Sharpless

    ‘The View’ To Be Canceled: ABC Reportedly Planning Cancellation, Report Says, Reason May Surprise You

    The View is reportedly about to get the axe. According to Q-Political, the long-running show has been on the chopping block for quite some time due to the continuous complications between Whoopi Goldberg and Rosie O’Donnell.

    It’s definitely no secret that the two co-hosts aren’t the best of friends. As a matter of fact, they’re probably the biggest opposing forces on daytime talk show television. Although the network has made an effort to sustain The View by bringing in new hosts to change up the dynamic, nothing seems to overshadow the issues with Goldberg and O’Donnell.

    While heated debates and sparring matches usually make for great television, the political opposition between the two women is reportedly “insufferable to audiences all across the country.” It’s been reported that many have complained about the women’s constant sparring and “hi-jacking interviews.”

    The show’s ratings have also taken a bit of a hit due to the conflicting dynamic between the two women. So the network is reportedly making plans to cancel The View and extend Good Morning America. An alleged inside source recently shared details about the network’s discussions about the show with Fox-411.

    “You can’t keep hiring and firing, trying to save a sinking ship. There is no leadership on the show. It’s the news division that pays for ‘The View,’ so the debate now is whether the show is iconic enough to pour money into revamping, or do away with all together. At this stage, the feeling is that it’s pretty much done. They may test a remodeled version for one more season, but that would require work and top brass aren’t sure that it is worth it.”

    However, the numbers definitely don’t seem like audiences are tired of the constant bickering. According to Nielsen Media Research, The View is still averaging approximately 2.9 million viewers per broadcast. But, the source insists the heightened problems have created intense conflicts that actually overshadow the success of the show. The mounting problems are reportedly on and off the set.

    “Rosie (O’Donnell) and Whoopi (Goldberg) don’t get along at all. When the cameras aren’t rolling, there is no talking between them. But the staff much prefer dealing with Rosie. But is she enough to hold the show if they were to get another new lineup next year? That’s the question,” the insider said. “They threw Rosie Perez in there after Jenny (McCarthy) didn’t have her contract renewed, but that hasn’t helped the show either.”

    So, would the network really throw in the towel on such a highly-rated show simply because the co-hosts can’t seem to get along? Maybe, not! Despite the mounting rumors, Fox-411 reports that ABC is denying the cancellation claims – for now. A representative recently spoke out on behalf of the network in regards to the speculated cancellation of The View. However, the statement doesn’t exactly solidify the future of the show.

    “Given all the changes, the show has come a long way and is holding steady in viewership,” the rep said. “The pace and energy has picked up, and things are really starting to gel.”

  178. morris maltenburg said on January 17th, 2015 at 5:16 pm

    What The Fuck??????????????????… Fuck the what????????????????????/….

    Woman plans to marry her father after two years of dating
    Published January 17, 2015
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    An teenage revealed in an interview that she plans to marry her father and have children after dating for two years.

    The unnamed 18-year-old revealed in New York Magazine the relationship with her father when she was young and how she fell in love with him.


    In the interview, the girl also says the two plan on having children.

    The woman says he father was in and out of her life mostly when she was young. She recalls wondering where he was and why she hadn’t hear from him. There was no contact for 12 years and she did not finally meet him again until she was 17.

    Her father reached out to her on Facebook when she was in high school and soon after, the woman went to stay with him for a week.

    After the week, the 18-year-old revealed they had sex and were dating after.

    Many people were aware of the situation.

    “Everyone on my mom’s side of the family sees us as father and daughter,” she told the magazine. “Those who know that he’s my dad, and that we are engaged, include my father’s parents (they can see we are happy together and they can’t wait for us to have babies — they treat us just like any other couple), the woman we live with, and my best friend.”

    After the wedding, the woman says they plan to move to New Jersey where adult incest is legal.

  179. morris maltenburg said on January 17th, 2015 at 5:17 pm

    Are we collectively loosing it or what????????????????????

  180. Siska said on January 17th, 2015 at 5:18 pm

    Could I possible more fawning over Jen? He..he,,she took a head on approach to bury the triangle thing..
    Love her..she trying to do this for so long,but recently she became more bold and louder.
    Good for her….
    It’s been fun run for us to gossiping about them,but maybe it’s tiresome for them.,he.he..
    I wish Jolie has the gut to address this and stop her fans blame hen for something not even her fault in beginning.
    When the suppose to be wronged side already openly said it’s over and made peace, the other side should back
    that statement, if they all want it to be over.
    Let stop the cat fight.
    Anyway until I heard that the other side also openly asked to stop the triangle,I will believe that all of them not purposely use this triangle to drum up pr.
    If they did used it in past,now it’s time to bury it. It’s time.

  181. Siska said on January 17th, 2015 at 5:19 pm

    Jen not hen..he..he..sorry too fast typing.@Siska:

  182. Keane said on January 17th, 2015 at 5:34 pm


    Not to mention the wedding – I forgot about that little stunt! So AJ even with a worthy political campaign, honorary title and handshake from the Queen, the long waited for wedding and a handshake from the Pope could not get a nom for one of those little golden men!!! How freaking hilarious. Ange – if this won’t do it, nothing will – give up!

  183. Guest2 said on January 17th, 2015 at 10:54 pm

    Jolie hasn’t learned anything. I saw this at DM, the story is silly but the picture is very telling. There’s one photographer in the audience and he is photographing only jolie’s table. Everyone’s looking at the stage and she’s staring into a camera, the woman who said she’s never been comfortable in front of the camera. Is this the guy who runs the just jared loon site?


  184. WR said on January 18th, 2015 at 4:35 am

    In my opinion, Brat Pitt is at least as guilty as AJ. Yet, he’s rarely mentioned when the triangle is discussed. But it’s so plain that he is just as calculating as AJ in his career choices. He’s in his 50s now, with the dyed hair, and added facial hair. Trying, and finally succeeding somewhat in looking masculine; well, at least in some shots. Of course, most actors are calculating, but his part in the adulterous behavior is ignored. Instead, in some quarters, he’s even applauded, like in the olden times.

    AJ is not doing her part in making the triangle disappear, already. That reads too much like a psychopathic trait. The way she stared at the woman who was trying to make nice after the Sony mini-scandal. She looked like a robot; no emotion, at all.

    Just for more opinions, I asked two good acquaintances about her, on separate occasions. Both educated males dismissed her talent, just as the critics did. One local critic said her directorial effort was immature!

  185. LG said on January 18th, 2015 at 6:16 am

    You so nailed it WR………the regulars all have a good opinion on this….from “siska” to “morris” to”mc Kitty” to “Keanne” to Guest 1 , 2, Togi, birdsfly, dream …….etc, etc

  186. LG said on January 18th, 2015 at 6:32 am

    I must say, in all reluctance, that Ethan Hawke cosying up to Angelina at the Critic’s Choice Awards, made him look like a “looser’

  187. LG said on January 18th, 2015 at 6:34 am

    ,,,,,,,Ethan, I hope you wore a condom

  188. LG said on January 18th, 2015 at 6:49 am

    ,,,,way back then

  189. Guest2 said on January 18th, 2015 at 9:59 am

    It looked to me like he was consoling her when he had his hands on her shoulders or reassuring her somehow. I thought it was funny how she hugged the women (whose husbands she “slept” with in the past) with her body as far away from them as possible and then hugged EH like he was a long-lost lover (he was, of course). Maybe if Uma was there she would have hugged her instead.

  190. Guest2 said on January 18th, 2015 at 10:12 am

    Brad’s gotten a free pass on this since day 1 when he’s the one who did the cheating and treated his wife abominably. He’s a narcissist, too but not as bad as her. He seems to have had a good upbringing so he has a frame of reference for normal and should know that what he did is wrong. I’m talking more about the abuse he helped heap on Jen after the breakup that continues to this day. I think they are the leaders of the loon brigade. AJ has no idea what normal is because of her twisted upbringing and she’s a lost cause, imo. I find it interesting that for all her exploits with men it’s the powerful women in HW who give her these career opportunities, first Amy Pascal now Donna Langley. I wonder where she’ll be in 10 years when what’s left of her looks and appeal are gone.

  191. Guest2 said on January 18th, 2015 at 4:17 pm

    I just found these two videos on another site, the first is a tribute to Betty White’s 93rd birthday and it’s really cute. The second one is hilarious.



  192. morris maltenburg said on January 18th, 2015 at 5:14 pm

    Very well stated to both LG and G2…. It boogles the mind doesn’t it. When I look back at my life, remembering when I first was discharged from the Corp, and when I first met these people, I look back now, and wished I had never met any of them.

    I know this is a Piece of Shit Rag Miester lunatic paper, but the point is well taken. This is a baby child, a little person, a little girl person, a sweet lil kid. WTF, calling her John? AJ/BP are a couple of Pitiful Phuckers. This gives new meaning to the indie crap “Spike & Mike’s Sick and Twisted.”
    That’s what it is… just plain sick and twisted. How in the world would this lil baby child have even a clue about her own sexuality? She is a little kid! This is what burns my ass about these two dirt balls.

    Should Shiloh Jolie-Pitt Be Referred To As John By The Media?
    Shiloh Jolie-Pitt continues to generate buzz by dressing like a boy, but should the media really be referring to Angelina Jolie and Brad Pitt’s daughter by the name “John?”

    Two recent write-ups argue that the 8-year-old should be referred to as John Jolie-Pitt, and they offer two very different reasons for encouraging Shiloh to stick with the male moniker. Alternet writer Rachel Pepper refers to Shiloh as John over and over again in a recent article that declares 2015 “the year of the transgender child.” Meanwhile AL.com writer Amanda Walker believes that southerners should support Jolie-Pitt’s decision to change her name to John because of the Battle of Shiloh. Walker points out that it was “the first battle of the Civil War that saw a large number of casualties.”

    However, Angelina Jolie and Brad Pitt didn’t name their daughter after the Battle of Shiloh. According to The Daily Beast, their first biological child was given a moniker dreamed up by her grandparents decades ago.

    “Angelina Jolie was almost born Shiloh Baptist Voight. The inspiration for the name was a truck her father, Jon Voight, and her mother, Marcheline Bertrand, were stuck behind while taking a drive through the woods.”

    Marcheline decided against the name because it was “too Hebrew.”

    Shiloh Jolie-Pitt didn’t change her name to John because her name is “too Hebrew,” or because 23,000 soldiers were killed in the Battle of Shiloh. And, as far as anyone knows, she didn’t change it because she’s transgender. However, Rachel Pepper claims that Shiloh is “out” in an article titled “10 things every parent of a transgender child needs to know.”

    “Supported by celebrity parents who are known to be LGBT savvy, John Jolie-Pitt presents us with the very public manifestation of the new vanguard of transgender children: out, unapologetic, self-assured and supported by their families,” Pepper writes. “Thanks to kids like John Jolie-Pitt, and families who are willing to step forward in support, trans children will have many more role models this year.”

    The John Jolie-Pitt name didn’t come from Shiloh coming out as a transgender child. As the Inquisitr previously reported, the reports about Shiloh wanting to be called John come from Angelina Jolie’s 2008 interview with Oprah Winfrey. Jolie told the talk show host a story about how Shiloh insisted on being referred to as John because she was a fan of the Peter Pan character of the same name. Angelina has never referred to Shiloh as John since that interview. She called her daughter by her birth name during an interview for the June, 2014, issue of Elle, and always uses female pronouns when talking about her child.

    According to Hollywood Life, Angelina Jolie once told Reuters that she doesn’t agree with labeling or judging children based on how they outwardly express themselves.

    “Society always has something to learn when it comes to the way we judge each other, label each other. We have far to go.”

    It’s possible that Shiloh Jolie-Pitt is really a “trans kid,” as video vixen Amber Rose recently labeled her. However, it’s also possible that she’s not. Whatever the case may be, Angelina Jolie has never indicated that Shiloh still wants to be called John. Do you think media outlets need to stop referring to Angelina Jolie’s daughter as John Jolie-Pitt?

    Read more at http://www.inquisitr.com/1764262/should-shiloh-jolie-pitt-be-called-john-by-the-media-2015-declared-the-year-of-the-transgender-child/#M7gO71dbXgBrwYkA.99

  193. Guest2 said on January 18th, 2015 at 8:53 pm

    I posted this link earlier but my post seems to have disappeared. Enjoy.


  194. Guest2 said on January 18th, 2015 at 8:56 pm


    I forgot to mention to turn the sound up.

  195. WR said on January 19th, 2015 at 4:03 am

    Well, my friendly acquaintance told me to be sure to YouTube “Illuminati Manifesto”; so I did. Brat Pitt is featured in one of those threads. Too much to try to absorb; so I’ll give it a go sometime soon, I hope.

  196. Guest2 said on January 19th, 2015 at 11:40 am

    Oprah and the cast of Selma are marching in Alabama for MLK Day. Way to promote your movie, Oprah. No wonder Pitt wasn’t included in anything to do with Selma (other than the stupid thing he did with teaching people to pronounce Oyelowo’s name) – room for only one massive ego. These people will exploit anyone and anything to push their own agendas, the queen, the pope, the dead.

  197. Payal said on January 19th, 2015 at 6:06 pm

    Guys is anyone here on the new Jen aniston board, I was and I got banned. For some reason I think they thought I was a loon, but I’m not I’m Payal! I tend to go over the top and went a bit negative when Jen didnt get nominated for an oscar and mentioned brangelina I think. I didn’t think I deserved to be banned though. U know how much a Jen fan I am. I think it was unfair.

  198. morris maltenburg said on January 19th, 2015 at 6:41 pm

    Boy are you spot on about that……….. Makes any person seriously wonder WTF is going on…

    Billy Crystal says TV is ‘pushing it’ with gay storylines: Don’t ‘shove it in our face’
    Crystal, who played the first openly gay character on TV in the late ’70s on ‘Soap,’ said today’s TV shows have gay story lines that ‘are too much for me.

    BY Philip Caulfield


    Published: Monday, January 19, 2015, 12:24 PM

    Updated: Monday, January 19, 2015, 1:58 PM

    Billy Crystal thinks TV writers are “pushing it” when it comes to gay storylines, and is wary of seeing same sex relationships shoved “in our face.”

    Musing about playing an openly gay man on the ’70s sitcom “Soap,” Crystal told an audience at a Television Critics Association press event Sunday that some shows today contain gay storylines that are “too much for me,” The Wrap reported.

    “Sometimes, it’s just pushing it a little too far for my taste and I’m not going to reveal to you which ones they are,” the 66-year-old “City Slickers” actor said.

    TABLOIDS OUT; NO BOOK PUBLISHING WITHOUT PRIOR APPROVAL. NO ARCHIVE. NO RESALE. Mitch Haaseth/ABC Jack Falahee and Conrad Ricamora as gay characters on the hit show ‘How to Get Away With Murder.’ Crystal said depictions of gay characters on TV these days occasionally made him uncomfortable.

    Later, he added, “I hope people don’t abuse it and shove it in our face… to the point where it feels like an everyday kind of thing.”

    The comic legend’s remarks sparked backlash on social media, where many found his opinions a little less than marvelous.


    “Nothing against being Billy Crystal, just don’t want it shoved in my face,” one critic wrote.

    “I’m going to assume Billy Crystal has had some sort of stroke,” another said.

    During Sunday’s panel for his upcoming FX show, the actor said the role was difficult for him, and he was sometimes frustrated to the audiences’ reaction to it.

    I’m going to assume Billy Crystal has had some sort of stroke. “Everyday thing”. This from the man who portrayed a most offensive gay role.
    — GothamNurse (@GothamNurse) January 19, 2015

    “Jodie was really the first recurring (gay) character on network television and it was a different time, it was 1977. So, yeah, it was awkward. It was tough,” Crystal said, according to The Wrap.

    “I did it in front of a live audience and there were times when I would say to (’Soap’ actor) Bob (Seagren), ‘I love you,’ and the audience would laugh nervously,” Crystal recalled.

    I think people are bothered more by Billy Crystal being on the TV than the amount of gay sex scenes.
    — Toni Kinkead (@MrsToniKinkead) January 19, 2015

    “I wanted to stop the taping and go, ‘What is your problem?’”

    “Comedians,” which premieres in April, is Crystal’s first role on a TV sitcom since “Soap.”

    Based on a Swedish series, it also stars “The Wedding Ringer” star Josh Gad as a younger comedian who gets paired up with Crystal’s aging showbiz vet for a late-night sketch show.

    The network has high hopes for the show, slating it as the lead-in show to Louis C.K.’s critically-acclaimed “Louie,” Deadline reported.

    FX didn’t have a comment on Crystal’s comments.

  199. morris maltenburg said on January 19th, 2015 at 6:44 pm


    Billy Crystal: ‘Don’t shove gay sex scenes in my face’

    ‘It’s just pushing it a little too far for my taste’

    Published: 4 hours ago

    (NEW YORK DAILY NEWS) — Billy Crystal thinks TV writers are “pushing it” when it comes to gay storylines, and is wary of seeing same sex relationships shoved “in our face.”

    The 66-year-old actor made the touchy comments at the Television Critics Association press tour in California Sunday while promoting his new show, “Comedians.”

    Musing about playing an openly gay man in the ’70s sitcom “Soap,” Crystal said that TV shows today sometimes contain gay storylines that are “too much for me,” The Wrap reported.

    Read more at http://www.wnd.com/2015/01/billy-crystal-dont-shove-gay-sex-scenes-in-my-face/#4CApKtp2ButYdgRd.99

  200. Keane said on January 19th, 2015 at 7:40 pm

    @morris maltenburg:


  201. Keane said on January 19th, 2015 at 7:50 pm


    Yes the lead actor was on the news today complaining about how all the Oscar nominees were white and that the Board of Selection Committee didn’t like powerful black characters. Not having seen any of these performances in their entirety it sounded a bit like sour grapes to me. I do accept that the Oscars rarely award African American actors but think that’s more to do with there being less films with African American leads due to the prejudices of the audience (which typically determines what content a broadcaster/film exec will want to put out) rather than the prejudices of the committee. I also thought it was not the wisest move professionally to complain about not being acknowledged and to accuse all the people who will be giving out the gongs and handing out the roles of being racist! JMO

  202. Guest2 said on January 19th, 2015 at 8:23 pm

    I watched a two-minute trailer for Selma on cable television and I thought the actor who played King was rather bland. MLK was a charismatic man and I did not see that in the little I saw of the movie. While MLK was a powerful man who helped change the course of history for African Americans, the Oscar nomination is for the actor whose performance maybe just wasn’t as good compared to the performances of the men who were nominated. I actually didn’t care for a lot of the actors in the movie.

  203. pep said on January 19th, 2015 at 8:27 pm

    no such thing. he’s an a-hole.

  204. pep said on January 19th, 2015 at 8:32 pm

    and a stalker.

  205. WR said on January 20th, 2015 at 3:30 am

    Well, Jake Gyllenhaal must be a great sport. He won the most Best Actor awards, after Michael Keaton from the various critics groups. His is a “small” movie, that is nevertheless a box office hit. I feel his movie will be talked about years from now, after most of last year’s award-winning crop will be forgotten.

    Deja-Vu: He was in another snubbed movie that won almost every award, all over the world, including “red” and “blue” states, that wasn’t “nailed down”: “Brokeback Mountain”. (although it was nommed for Best Picture)

    For those who don’t know, “red states” are Republican, right-wing-leaning; and “blue states” tend to be liberal.

  206. WR said on January 20th, 2015 at 3:37 am

    Off topic: Barbara, a good friend, is stymied about Seattle’s win over Green Bay. (2 touchdowns in 44 seconds!” And now, I have to ask her about the news out now, that The Indianapolis Colts, who defeated Green Bay, is being investigated for using deflated footballs.
    She might quote one of her favorite characters: “Things are getting curiouser and curiouser!”

    On my part, no bets on the outcome of The Super Bowl, February 1.

  207. WR said on January 20th, 2015 at 3:44 am

    Off topic, as well: The pope warned about making fun of other religions. He was talking about Islam.
    This, to me, is confusing. But I remember well, that His Holy Father is not right all of the time. He is right when it becomes a dogma. But until then, we are free to dispute his personal viewpoints.
    So what is a follower to do when sordid news keep coming out regarding the brutality of certain religions?
    Why just follow one’s heart and mind.

  208. WR said on January 20th, 2015 at 3:49 am

    Barbara will be mad at me for not getting it right. It’s The New England Patriots, who are accused of using deflated footballs. Glad I investigated to make sure. The Patriot’s captain, Tom Brady, reportedly is quite upset at the accusations.

  209. Guest2 said on January 20th, 2015 at 12:34 pm

    I wondered about your comment that it was the Colts but hoped that it was true and I misunderstood. If it is true about the Patriots then I will be very disappointed. For now I’ll give them the benefit of the doubt until something more comes to light but they have been accused of cheating in the past.

  210. morris maltenburg said on January 20th, 2015 at 10:23 pm

    SOD the FUCK OFF BULL DYKE… You don’t like Billy Crystals words, go bitch at him. NOT ME!!! I just re-posted his statements, most especially because he is considered to be such a BIG HOLLYWOOD STAR!!!

    There are many people that feel the same way. He isn’t alone in his feelings or perceptions. You wanna be some FAGGOT HAGGIT… Fine…. NO ONE really gives a FUCK about your FAGGOT HAAGITRY… What people are getting DOWN RIGHT SICK OF is the FAGGOT COMMUNITIES obsession with it self, and how much you want to bitch that everyone isn’t sophisticated enough to understand the ways of the FAGGOT COMMUNITY.

    Its just like this Boob head Cooper actually stating that he is a real Operator… NOT… Never will be either. Or that Faggot TOP KUNNY KUNSTER Scieno Phuck trying to state that he is the equivalent of a NAVY TOP GUN FIGHTER PILOT, or that JACK FUCKBAG NICHOLSON was a US Marine OFFICER… Not ever…

    CHRIS KYLE IS DEAD, so is MICHAEL MONSOOR… You get it FAGGOT FUCK… Two wives without HUSBANDS, a bunch of little kids without their FATHERS, and fucks like Michael Moore claiming that they were cowards, and SETH ROADFUCK claiming their were akin to a NAZI propaganda film, or that dirt WAD JERK WATER Caine Yeah SUS comparing his GANGSTER RAPPING TO THAT of being any Marine, Soldier, Airman, let alone Spec Operations Group personnel. CLUCKSTON EASTCOCK may be laughing all the way to the bank, living large off of everyone else s suffering, yet not one of them are one of us… You eat shit DYKE!!

  211. LG said on January 20th, 2015 at 11:21 pm

    It’s only recently that Billy Crystal’s thoughts are being analysed in full…….please Morris, please Keane, don’t fight

    What Crystal was trying to say is too much sex on the telly is too much…I agree..but Morris it is understandable that the gay community want their stories told and keane understands this…please don’t be divided. …

  212. LG said on January 20th, 2015 at 11:23 pm

    You both contribute so much…….

  213. LG said on January 20th, 2015 at 11:55 pm

    The reality is that Jennifer, Angelina and Brad are ‘buffered” from experiencing “true pain”. Money and perks make up for alot.

    Jen studidly calls “unbroken” a “beautiful and wonderful” film and a “gorgeous effort”……..This is a film my industry film friends referred to as “unwatchable” and “overly and unnecessarily violent with no characterisation”…..I trust my industry friends more than Jen. What she said seemed purposely wrong….Did Jen want to appear forgiving despite all the odds..in other words the film is “good” even thought the industry says its “off” That means “I’m a nice person despite Angelina getting it wrong”

    I know Morris is going to say they are in this together ,,,but I’m not convinced……Jen is trying to be the forgiving one first…but….. “gorgeous effort” for a violent film????????????….It doesn’t make sense…If I was Jen I wouldn’t comment at all. Now comes the truth of sorts. Did Jen make these stupid compliments so that she ccould get an Oscar nomination for Cake….Could she be that stupid that commenting positively on “Unbroken” would absolve her from critisicism

  214. WR said on January 21st, 2015 at 2:58 am

    Apparently, Jen is not savvy enough in her Oscar campaigning. She should not have mentioned the man that died. If she was to mention him, she was way too late in doing so. It would have made sense, years ago.

    It apparently was the movie that cost her. It isn’t good enough, according to the critics. She had stiff competition to deal with. There were several others who contended. Shailene Woodley, for one.
    A consolation is that the critics felt she was better than her movie. And she can build on that. It’s apparent, though, that she needs guidance when campaigning.

  215. WR said on January 21st, 2015 at 3:01 am

    One must remember that the Oscars are a popularity contest. Esteemed moviemaker, Woody Allen called it a “Beauty Pageant”.

  216. siska said on January 21st, 2015 at 6:06 am

    I don’t think her comment try to win an Oscar nominee,because it happen after the voting close and I’m pretty sure after the snub.
    She just want to stop the triangle once and for all and Jen has good relation with universal studio. Jen love to use word beautiful to compliment someone or some thing. Its just her style

  217. LG said on January 21st, 2015 at 6:39 am

    you and WR make good points about this

  218. siska said on January 21st, 2015 at 7:08 am

    Thank u..in the end we never knew the truth.. Imagine if all the triangle thing actually just big made up scandal that became secret weapon for the long lasting PR for all of them..we all suck in..he..he

  219. Guest2 said on January 21st, 2015 at 2:17 pm

    I thought she ran a pretty good campaign considering she got nominated for three major awards and will be getting another CA film festival award. I think talking about the deceased boyfriend was a misstep in the campaign but I don’t think that’s what cost her the Oscar nom. We’ll never know for sure but I think that not enough voters screened her very small movie that got a very late start and Jen is not really known for Oscar type performances. Anyway, Julianne Moore seems to be anointed to win this since she is “overdue”. I watched a trailer for Still Alice on cable and all I can is it was terrible. The sound was awful, I could barely hear the actresses speaking and what little I saw looked boring.

  220. Guest2 said on January 21st, 2015 at 2:26 pm

    Oh no, was that you who just got banned there a few days ago? I didn’t think your comments were loonish but they are really cautious about trolls there. I very rarely comment on that site because I’m afraid I’ll say the wrong thing and get banned. They really do have the best info on Jen. Maybe you could contact the admin and explain to her what happened. Try not to be too disappointed about Jen not getting the Oscar nomination, she’s actually done very well considering it’s a tiny movie that hasn’t even been released yet. Julianne Moore’s movie hasn’t been released yet either and if she had never been nominated before I don’t think her name would be on the list.

  221. Guest2 said on January 21st, 2015 at 2:27 pm


    It does make you appreciate the “free speech” policy on this site. Thanks for that, Ian.

  222. Keane said on January 21st, 2015 at 3:05 pm

    @morris maltenburg:

    I was actually referring to Crystal but if you want to take it personally it’s entirely up to you! I didn’t read the rest because it was all swear words on the caps lock so can’t really come back at you with that, just wanted to point out quickly though that you seem to also have misinterpreted what I said about my sexuality. While I have identified as gay in the past I don’t necessarily now, sexuality is a complex thing and it is also fluid and changes over time (as most of my friends will testify to). I actually don’t particularly identify as anything because I understand that who I am attracted to today may not be who I am attracted to tomorrow. There is actually no real need to divide people up into “gays”, “straights” and “bisexuals” as sexuality really is a much more complex and changeable aspect of the self than this. While I accept that there are some people who will and always will identify as 100% straight and 100% gay their whole life, most people when you scratch the surface a little, really don’t. I’m sure that if you were really honest with yourself MM you would admit to being attracted to another male at some point in your long life. :-)

  223. Keane said on January 21st, 2015 at 3:09 pm

    @morris maltenburg:

    I do agree though that you are a stalker I have to say – make sure you keep details about your real identity and location to yourselves ladies – otherwise you might have MM showing up on your doorstep one of these days!

  224. Keane said on January 21st, 2015 at 4:40 pm


    I think Jen was trying to look like the bigger person – and I think this is the way she has always played the split. She has never resorted to low blows or saying what most of the rest of the human race would have said in her position – I think to the frustration of a lot of people who would like to see her stick it to Ange. Jen is a strange one because I am pretty sure she is gay. None of the relationships with men she has had in the public eye since Brad have been genuine IMO and there has to be a reason for that – a significant other that she has to keep under the radar for some reason. So was her relationship with Brad for real or was it – like the brand, Jay Z and Beyonce and Kanye and Kim more of a PR thing? To take her from A-list TV star to movies and to give him that sort of grounded, homespun appeal that she brings to everything and perhaps concealing his true predilections who knows? This is all just speculation though I have to say as I really didn’t follow or care about the two of them while they were together. Love them or loathe them, one has to admit, nobody ever talked about any of them pre “the Triangle” than they do now!

  225. Keane said on January 21st, 2015 at 4:49 pm


    I honestly wasn’t starting a fight – merely saying that Crystal’s comments are homophobic – he is basically repeating the standard line of the homophobe that “they don’t have a problem with gay people, but why do they need to shove it in our faces so much?” – it’s a classic position. What Crystal and other homophobic types fail to realise is that gay sexuality is as much to be celebrated as straight sexuality is. If an audience can enjoy the sizzling on screen sexual chemistry of the likes of Brad and Ange in MAMS then they should be as happy to seeing homosexual desire expressed on screen as well – sex is one of the most important parts of who we are as a species after all – something to be celebrated, not disgusted by. I think Hozier’s video for Take Me to Church makes this point pretty succinctly and is what gay Pride movements are all about. I think we should al be proud of who we are as sexual beings and never be ashamed of what is such an essential part of our humanity.

  226. Guest2 said on January 21st, 2015 at 8:10 pm

    Angelooney Whorely who used to post here made the mistake of giving out her personal email and had a huge problem with this guy when he posted under the moniker of saxxm. I don’t engage him with him for that reason, well the fact too that he’s obnoxious.

  227. WC Kitty said on January 21st, 2015 at 8:31 pm

    Not saying that Jen isn’t gay, but she may have problems letting another man get close to her due to trust issues. From what I’ve witnessed during my life, having someone cheat on you is humiliating enough without it being played out in front of the entire world. True, it’s happens all the time in Hollyweird, but this triangle thing has been over the top and I believe she has found someone and has had enough. I believe a couple of the guys were more like friends and to get involved with her would also be like becoming part of the triangle. We also don’t know what dirty games were played on her behind closed doors. IMO, Brad plays the charming low-key kind of backstabber and reminds me of a couple of sociopath’s I’ve had the misfortune of knowing. You don’t know which way is up when they all the sudden turn on you. IOW, the guy who was supposed to be her best friend became her worst enemy. Isn’t her mom known as being a narcissist, which wouldn’t help her when it comes to trust also.

  228. siska said on January 21st, 2015 at 9:14 pm

    Love her new open honest interview on THR..great

  229. Payal said on January 21st, 2015 at 9:43 pm


    Yes it was me, I feel upset and misunderstood especially as you know how crazy I am about Jen and I don’t like the exclusivity of just them being Jen fans. It is an amazing site. I can find every bit of jen information as I have being doing since I first got a computer ages ago lol. So it’s not necessarily the Jen info although the others find stuff I would never have. I really miss being part of it, and feel a little bullied because I know who I am and how I’ve loved Jen since I was 9 years old. It wasn’t my intention to change the tone of the forum.

  230. morris maltenburg said on January 22nd, 2015 at 1:03 am

    Very well stated LG,
    You’re seriously right in some respects, and at the same time seriously wrong in other respects. To keep it straight up.. on the up and up. I have known both AJ, James Haven, John Sr (Jon), and JA since AJ, JA, and James Haven since they were young kids, literally. I am seriously very shocked about how they’ve turned out as adults. I seriously think they are all full of “SHIT.” I think AJ is a buffoon and a seriously unfunny joke. I feel great sympathy, empathy, and serious pain for James Haven, as he was not even remotely QUEER, nor acted QUEER, as a young boy. He didn’t have any detectable QUEER anything in him as a kid. He was a STANDARD AMERICAN KID. The type you would have found nearly anywhere in America. They were both very nice kids, and very down to earth. They were actually very sweet kids. Kind, thoughtful, respectful, etc. Seriously, good kids, average AMERICANA, down right nice kids. So was John SR.

    Here is what I believe. Three streets behind my Grandmothers house lived a family with the last name Spurlock. One of the sons, and others with the same identical last name all became involved with Scientology. They literally tried to shove it down everyones throat, by force.

    I am seriously very sorry that I keep returning to Lisa McPherson. Yet I knew the entire McPherson family. They were extremely close to my maternal Grandparents. I knew Lisa when she was born. The worst thing that ever happened to their family was Lisa’s involvement with Scientology. When I entered the Marine Corp, 8 days after my 17th Birthday, things in my family, and the McPherson family literally started falling apart. When I got home, nearly 4 full years later, things were an absolute mess. For years, I minded my own business. Then one day I went off. That was the day that I beat the living fuck out of John Collins (Heavy Zebra), and within several years walked into one of the Scieno Orgs and literally flattened Tommy Davis. Both of these criminals were seriously lucky I didn’t take their heads off.

    JA, has also turned into a buffoon as well. There was a day where we were very seriously close friends. I talked to her about 6.5 years ago. She was very lucky we were not in the same room at the time. She knows quite well what her mother, father, grandmother fuckerbag, and others attempted to do to my family. Not only my family but the Aerhart family (yes the name is spelled correctly.)

    I will not forgive, nor forget what these shit holes have done. Its like I’ve stated repeatedly. Nearly everyone that I have known personally, long before they were famous, or noted in the media whatsoever, all have one thing in common. They are repped by the HUVANO SCIENO FUCKERBAG FAGGOT ASS SCIENO BROTHERS. They have all had run ins with these two fuckerbags and Scientology. There is zero doubt in my mind that Lisa was in fact murdered.

    Today as I went to pay my bills, do a little shopping, one of the rags was stating that Jelly Azz Butt Head and Eddie Munster are now secretly married. I think it will be just a few weeks before the HUVANO FUCKBAGS come out and deny the whole thing. Even though they are the ones that more than likely are the shit holes that planted the story. Its seriously pathetic. JA getting up stating that she has been jilted again by the Oscars, and today another story erupted about Katie Holmes and the Flaming Top Kunny Kunster, then there was a story Lizzie Lizard Qween of Faggotolgy in Ing-lund regarding her bitch pedo, and then some other trash about some other KUNT. It is unbelievable the amount of crap. You can’t tell me that JA and Eddie Munster didn’t get paid for their most recent pics in these BS MAGS and TABZ. The feud is all BS. Its all talking points.

    Regarding your assessment relative to AJ’s Movie. I think your spot on, so are your Producer buddies. Yet, I know factually that AJ and JA were friends growing up. I can’t help but believe with all due sincerity that the whole thing has been contrived spanning years, literally. My next post will give you another eye opener.

  231. morris maltenburg said on January 22nd, 2015 at 1:27 am

    I will never believe that Phillip Seymour Hoffman just ODed, not ever. I am an Ole Jarhead Nammer Hammer… Marine Corp through and through. I have known many people over my life. To many for my own comfort. If you are even slightly like me, and believe in the Holy Master Creator God, and believe in a higher power, than I ask you to say a prayer for US NAVY CPO Chris Kyle, and his loving wife Taya, and children. I also hope you will include US NAVY CPO Michael Monsoor, his loving wife, and children. They were both Valiant young warriors of high caliber. They served their most beloved country. They went into harms ways, and waded into the breech. They will always be remembered, and sorely missed.

    For me, so will Lisa, and her entire family. Many people wonder who I am. I will tell you a small bit about myself. Not only did I grow up in the Corp, but I am the first born male child,l the bastard child, of a very well known US Air Force Three Star Three Stripper Lt General Retired. I am his first born, bastard child yes, as he didn’t marry my mother.

    I have another great question for you LG. How come Jelly Azz Butt Head doesn’t hang around Sheryl Fuckerbag Crow anymore?

    Bombshell Scientology Film: Alex Gibney on Cruise, Travolta and ‘The Prison of Belief’
    The Hollywood ReporterJanuary 21, 2015

    Bombshell Scientology Film: Alex Gibney on Cruise, Travolta and ‘The Prison of Belief’Tom Cruise at a Scientology event in 2004

    By Kim Masters

    This story first appeared in the Jan. 30 issue of The Hollywood Reporter magazine.

    Lance Armstrong is not mad at Alex Gibney. No, not even though Gibney’s 2013 documentary, which was supposed to be about Armstrong’s triumphant emergence from retirement to compete in the Tour de France, turned out to be an exposé on doping called The Armstrong Lie.

    “I remember vividly when he reached out to me to tell me he had selected the title,” Armstrong says. “I said, ‘OK, it doesn’t make me feel great,’ but I don’t blame him. I did lie. What the f—- are you going to say?” He still thinks Gibney portrayed him as more untruthful than he actually was, but he admires the filmmaker’s brains as well as his willingness to tackle subject matter such as that of Gibney’s new film. “This Scientology thing — that just takes a huge set to take on,” Armstrong says. “But he has the courage to do it.”

    Gibney’s film, based on Lawrence Wright’s 2013 best-seller Going Clear: Scientology, Hollywood and the Prison of Belief, is set to become one of the most-talked-about documentaries at the Sundance Film Festival. The exhaustively researched (and lawyered) exploration of the controversial church and its ties to Hollywood is set for a Jan. 25 premiere at the MARC Theater and will air March 16 on HBO after an awards-qualifying theatrical release in New York and Los Angeles.

    Going Clear is the latest film to emerge from what has become Gibney’s amazingly prolific factory of awards-magnet documentaries. (Having written about Scientology over the years, I should state that I am a talking head in the film.) It features vintage footage of enigmatic church founder L. Ron Hubbard as he builds his empire as well as rare sequences shot inside Scientology gatherings, some of which include the church’s biggest star, Tom Cruise.

    “I think what viewers will get from this is a visceral sense of what it’s like to be inside the church,” says Gibney. Hint: a lot of upbeat oratory from church head David Miscavige, often followed by rapturous applause. The film brings to life much of the material covered in Wright’s book — one former church member alleges on camera that Miscavige privately heaped ridicule on aspects of Cruise’s personal life — but there is also material that was not in the book and is being kept secret until the premiere.
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    Featuring interviews with several fallen-away high-level church officials, the film paints a damning portrait of the involvement of Scientology’s highest-profile members, Cruise and John Travolta, which continues despite numerous allegations against the church that claim forced labor and other abuse under Miscavige’s leadership. At one point, Wright ponders what might curb Miscavige’s power. The IRS could strip Scientology of its nonprofit status, he muses, or “some of these celebrity megaphones could turn against the church. And Tom Cruise should be leading that chorus.”

    Representatives for Cruise and Travolta declined to comment on the film (which they obviously haven’t seen). On Jan. 16, the Church of Scientology took out full-page ads denouncing the film in The New York Times and Los Angeles Times, featuring a large photo of Gibney. A headline, alluding to a notorious article on campus rape that did not stand up to scrutiny, asks, “Is Alex Gibney’s Upcoming HBO ‘Documentary’ a Rolling Stone/UVA Redux?” The text that follows alleges that the movie relies on discredited sources. “The ad speaks for itself,” says Scientology spokeswoman Karen Pouw in an email to THR, adding that Gibney and HBO have not provided the church with the allegations in the film, so it could respond. (Gibney says he approached church members and officials and was either rebuffed or asked to comply with what he calls “unreasonable conditions.”) While the church supports free speech, Pouw adds, “Free speech is not a free pass to broadcast or publish information.”

    Certainly the film includes extensive interviews with former longtime church members, including Crash director Paul Haggis, Miscavige lieutenant Marty Rathbun and Spanky Taylor, who says she worked in the church’s Los Angeles Celebrity Centre and was Travolta’s liaison until she fell out of favor with Scientology officials and was forced into a prison-like setting that wouldn’t meet Geneva Convention standards. Taylor recounts her dramatic 1978 escape with her baby — a story that she revealed for the first time in Wright’s book — in her first and likely only on-camera interview. Though she spoke to THR, she says she will not talk to the media in connection with the film.

    “I was certainly courted by NBC and a lot of people to be a spokesperson for Larry’s book,” she says. “But I have not been part of the church for decades. And I have a healthy respect for what they’re capable of doing to their critics.” Still, she felt that Wright, who had done Pulitzer-winning work, offered the best opportunity to tell her story if she was ever going to tell it. And Gibney, with an Oscar for Taxi to the Dark Side, his 2007 film about torture and the war on terror, also seemed like the right choice. “He sent me a great body of his work,” Taylor says, including his Emmy-winning 2012 film, Mea Maxima Culpa: Silence in the House of God, which explored pedophilia in the Catholic Church. “I was very impressed. I thought he was unbiased and honest and forthright.”

    At 61, Gibney, a soft-spoken, married father of three grown kids, says he is not opposed to telling uplifting tales, but he does seem to repel them. Torture, pedophilia, financial malfeasance (Enron: The Smartest Guys in the Room) and a prostitution scandal (Client 9: The Rise and Fall of Eliot Spitzer) contributed to his being recognized in 2013 with a career achievement award by the International Documentary Association. He attempts to make each of his films a cinematic experience rather than a straight-ahead narration. He’s got a number of music documentaries under his belt (among them Finding Fela! and Mr. Dynamite: The Rise of James Brown), but Gibney is best known for his unerring instinct for flawed, delusional characters like the subject of Client 9. “Spitzer and his aides would always talk about how powerful people had it in for him and he had to be super-careful,” Gibney says. “And then he’d call 22-year-old Ceci [Suwal] about an escort. Lance Armstrong — everybody in the world is gunning for him so [he thinks], ‘I’m going to come out of retirement and challenge everybody all over again.’ “

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    Director Alex Gibney in 2013

    When Gibney agreed to make the Armstrong film, he was hoping it would be an inspirational story for a change — but as the truth about the cyclist’s doping became undeniable, the director tossed a completed version and started over. Armstrong acknowledges that he was aware of Gibney’s reputation for thorough reporting going in. “That was always the word, that this guy will get to the truth,” he says. So why allow Gibney to film him? “At that point in my life, I felt totally invincible,” he says, then adds, “Let’s not try to go back to try to figure out what the f—- Lance Armstrong was thinking.”

    Wright met Gibney in 2006 when the author was doing a one-man show called My Trip to Al-Qaeda, which Gibney turned into a film. (Wright won the Pulitzer for his 2006 book, The Looming Tower: Al-Qaeda and the Road to 9/11.) “I felt an immediate kinship with him because he’s a very aggressive reporter, and I love people like that,” Wright says. “I find him to be a great collaborator. We rarely disagree trying to decide what’s the story to tell. He does so much work, it’s a miracle what he’s accomplished, but it’s because he knows what story is.”

    Wright sent Gibney the galleys of his Scientology book before it was published. Given his experience on his film about the Catholic Church, Gibney was intrigued. He had observed himself, a lapsed Catholic, bristling when he accompanied his wife to her Protestant church and the congregation recited a longer version of the Lord’s prayer than the one used in Catholic services. “Even though I didn’t believe, I was adamant about not saying this Protestant version,” he says. “It’s that terrifying certainty: ‘I am this, not that. This is right and the other version is wrong.’ ” With Scientology, he says, “I wanted to get deeper into what [Wright] calls the prison of belief.”

    HBO came aboard with much of the financing (the total cost was in the low six-figures). Sheila Nevins, the channel’s president of documentary films, recently joked to THR that the network had “probably 160 lawyers” vet the material. Those involved with the film are wondering what, if anything, Scientology might do in response, whether via lawyers or protestors at the Park City premiere. In years past, the church was known for extreme litigiousness and hardball tactics. “Their reputation precedes them,” Gibney says. “They scare everybody.”

    So far there have been legal threat letters, but Wright notes that he had those for his book and an article in The New Yorker that came before it. He also says he’s heard that a private investigator has been asking questions about him, and recently a reporter from a Scientology magazine turned up at a gig of his Austin-based band, WhoDo. (Wright plays keyboard and sings.) “I’m a little afraid they’re going to publish a picture of me in a country western outfit,” he jokes.

    Even as the Scientology film taxis down the runway, Gibney is at work on a multiplicity of other projects, including a Frank Sinatra film for HBO and an online TV version of The New Yorker for Amazon. He appears to have cracked the toughest of nuts: how to crank out quality documentaries without falling into a time-sucking morass of financing and licensing troubles.

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    Gibney developed his multitasking skills by accident when, while confronted with delays in making his 2008 film Gonzo: The Life and Work of Dr. Hunter S. Thompson, he started working on Taxi to the Dark Side: “Just by happenstance I had two films in the cutting room at the same time, and I actually found it engaging and useful.”

    He handles almost all the interviewing and directing himself and has a producer on each project to keep the films on track. Working on one film at a time would lead to frustration, as investigative movies take time to tease out. “You never know when somebody’s going to talk,” he says. “We get breaks pretty late in the game, usually. If we had rushed films out, they never would have been movies, they would have been reports.” On Enron: The Smartest Guys in the Room, Gibney didn’t get the brutally revealing audiotapes of the company’s energy traders talking among themselves until the recordings surfaced in court proceedings at the last minute. “Everybody remembers the electricity traders laughing about taking down the grid,” he says.

    Gibney has practical reasons for working on many projects at once, but he admits he also needs the action. As a staunchly sleep-resistant infant, he got the childhood nickname Tiger. And when his own son was diagnosed with mild attention deficit disorder in high school, Gibney says, “I realized that I probably had something like that, too.” He tried the medication Concerta but stopped when it made him feel “hyperfocused.” (“Sometimes it’s nice to hear birds sing,” he says.)

    Born in New York City, Gibney was raised outside Boston. His Catholic journalist father and atheist mother, who was head of health education for Boston Children’s Hospital, divorced when he was 3. (Gibney was nonetheless raised as a Catholic.) He lives in Summit, N.J., with his wife of more than 30 years, Anne DeBevoise, and is the father of three children, ages 29, 26 and 19.

    After graduating from Yale with a focus on Japanese literature, Gibney went to UCLA film school but left before he finished, getting a job with the Samuel Goldwyn Co. “I did a little bit of everything,” he says. “I recut a Paul Verhoeven movie. I recut [Bill Forsyth’s 1981 film] Gregory’s Girl. That’s not a source of pride, but I did insist we telex them to tell them the changes we were making.”

    For years, success eluded him. “It was just brutal,” he says. “I spent a lot of time in the wilderness, doing occasional writing gigs and God knows what all.” In 1992, he produced and wrote a PBS program about the rise of modern Asia that won an Emmy and other awards. “I was just waiting for the phone to ring,” he says. “It was a long wait. I learned: If you’re an independent, you always have to have one or two things going. The timing doesn’t work out the way you want. Something falls through or the estate that you thought had the rights to material doesn’t, so you work on more than one project.”

    The game-changer for Gibney came when he was hired to work on the eight-part Martin Scorsese-produced series The Blues, which launched on HBO in 2003. “It taught me — wow — you can do docs and do them with the mind-set of a feature film director,” he says. When Mark Cuban was attempting to launch the HDNet channel in the early 2000s, Gibney pitched him the idea for the Enron movie. Gibney was instructed to submit a proposal that was less than a page long. He got a yes. “What I’ve always liked about Mark is it’s never the Hollywood answer: ‘I love this project,’ meaning there’s no way in hell I’m going to do this. ‘It’s so smart,’ meaning I don’t see any commercial potential,” Gibney says. The film “was financially successful, critically successful, and it was nominated for an Oscar. Suddenly there was a model.”

    Three years ago, Gibney made another significant move. Rather than “retreating to my house and making an occasional film,” Gibney sold half his company, Jigsaw, to Content Media, a company run by longtime friend John Schmidt, a veteran of Miramax and co-founder of October Films. Schmidt brought capital and the opportunity to expand in several directions, even potentially including scripted programming. “It’s about trying to stay true to the Alex Gibney mission and being able to spread his wings a bit more,” Schmidt says. Gibney’s core staff is small (about eight employees), and he hires teams to work on each of his projects, so at times there are as many as 60 people in his New York offices.

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    Over at HBO, Nevins is watching a bit anxiously — and not because she’s taking on Scientology. She’s sold on Gibney’s skills as a documentarian, of course, having picked up Taxi to the Dark Side after Discovery decided it was too controversial to air and suffered through an onslaught from Catholics offended by Mea Maxima Culpa. “I’m always amazed by how respectful and yet gentle his questioning is,” she says. “And informed.”

    But she worries as Gibney grows a company and builds a library. “Documentary filmmakers in the main are not entrepreneurial,” she says. “It’s as if they’re supposed to live in a garret for the rest of their lives. Can you have it all? I don’t think you can. I think you have to paint one picture at a time.” As Nevins speaks, her ambivalence is audible. Gibney has earned the right to try it his way, she allows. “I’m a selfish tyrant,” she says. “I like owning people. But I have not seen him sell any project short — yet.”

    Gibney says the deal with Content Media has freed him by providing infrastructure so he doesn’t have to worry so much about matters like accounting. Though “everybody’s worried” that he’ll be stretched too thin, he says, “Each one of these films, to me, is handmade. There shouldn’t be concern.”

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    His latest handmade project, he acknowledges, is likely to bring as much blowback or more than he’s experienced on any of the others. But he feels that the message of this film applies well beyond Scientology or any one organization. “You can see how abusive institutions get when they have a lot of power and money and when they become guided by a small group of people at the top, perhaps even one person,” he says. And then there’s a theme that resonates across any number of religions: “It’s really hard-wired into all of us, the psychology of wanting to find certainty in faith that allows you to do the most reprehensible things because you believe the ends justify the means.”

  232. morris maltenburg said on January 22nd, 2015 at 1:52 am

    This is ure different than the last few years…….

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    Jennifer Aniston is getting candid about her famous split with Brad Pitt.

    Though tabloids have been publishing false reports about the Cake star feuding with her ex-husband and his current wife, Angelina Jolie, for almost a decade now, Aniston says there’s nothing at all scandalous about their 2005 divorce.

    “We’re not in daily communication,” the actress tells The Hollywood Reporter. “But we wish nothing but wonderful things for each other. Nobody did anything wrong. You know what I mean? It was just like, sometimes things [happen].”

    She continues, “If the world only could just stop with the stupid, soap-opera bullshit. There’s no story. I mean, at this point it’s starting to become — please, give more credit to these human beings.”

    Aniston, who has been engaged to The Leftovers actor Justin Theroux for two years and counting, also adds that she’s sick of people asking her about when she’ll have kids.

    “Listen,” the 45-year-old says, “that’s a topic that’s so exhausted. I get nervous around that, just because it’s very personal. Who knows if it’s going to happen? It’s been a want. We’re doing our best.”

    She says of her fiancé, “He’s the easiest guy to hang around. He was so completely in his skin. It was the first time I remember being so comfortable [with a romantic interest], like with all my gay friends.”

  233. WR said on January 22nd, 2015 at 2:37 am

    If everything goes according to expectations, Julianne Moore will win. But, there have been some “overdue” actors who surprisingly lost. Lauren Bacall, Richard Burton and Montgomery Clift are three who come to mind.
    Personally, I hope JM wins, but if there were an upset, it would probably be by someone who had a memorable role.

  234. WR said on January 22nd, 2015 at 2:45 am

    As for the males, it looks as if Michael Keaton would have to do something totally drastic, or say something that would outrage the old, conservative, white male voters, in order to lose. He knows that. The only challenge he has, say the pundits, comes from Eddie Redmayne. Redmayne has the role!

  235. WR said on January 22nd, 2015 at 2:49 am

    Off topic;
    So I looked up the illuminati. Just too many threads. I zeroed in on one about The Illuminati in Christianity. After 20 mins. of learning nothing new, I reserved the rest of the 2 hr. show for later.

  236. WR said on January 22nd, 2015 at 3:15 am

    It crossed my mind that she might be gay. The first indication was in “Friends”. She and Courtney Cox-Arquette had a lot of lesbian-like interaction. They were not alone. The 3 guys all had heavy play in that direction.

    My good acquaintance says that Big Brother is alive and well. There are, he says, SOPs. (Sexual Orientation Police) produced by Cyber Space. I can see that, as celebs are constantly under heavy scrutiny; not the most influential, but the ones who haven’t reached the upper level of stardom, yet. The really big stars can control their imagery.

    Bearing that in mind, JA has “a real man”, and she’s been engaged 2 years, now. Sure, she’s been humiliated in front of the world; but why humiliate yourself further by withholding happiness for yourself with a better man? Time waits for no one, and a straight woman should grab the happiness of being part of a couple.

    What made me think… naw, she’s really straight, is the report that she divorced BP, because he wanted to make it with another guy. And, of course, AJ told him he would have that freedom with her.

    Should she commit to marriage, she and JT will make a beautiful couple! All those pre-nup arrangements has to be done, of course.

  237. Guest2 said on January 22nd, 2015 at 9:32 am

    Marriage isn’t the benchmark for happiness, though. She’s 45 years old, has been there done that. If she were to get pregnant or adopt I think she would marry but if there are no children and they are happy together why is it necessary to get married? It’s not a guaranty of fidelity, as we all know. She’s very wealthy, why lock herself into a legal agreement if she doesn’t have to? Just because a woman doesn’t get married doesn’t mean she’s gay.

  238. Keane said on January 22nd, 2015 at 1:18 pm


    I just don’t buy the Justin Theroux thing – I think he has been hired for PR. They don’t convince me as a couple at all. I just don’t believe someone of Jen’s age, looks and wealth would be single for 10 years and just have a series of showmances to keep her in the press. There has to be someone behind the scenes that she isn’t talking about for some reason.

  239. Keane said on January 22nd, 2015 at 1:20 pm


    Yes it is creepy isn’t it – I don’t think people should use IUC as a site to try to pick up a date!

  240. Keane said on January 22nd, 2015 at 1:31 pm

    @morris maltenburg:

    MM do you really think that many people wonder who you are as I don’t really think that that is the case. I think if you grew up in or live in Cali then it is not unusual to know a lot of celebrities. I interviewed a police officer for a doc I made last year whose father was an actor (can’t remember his name now). She had been a stand-in a film for Clint Eastwood as a child and knew Elvis when she was growing up. While I was incredibly impressed by this she was like, honey, that story won’t even get you a cup of coffee over here! She basically said knowing these people was totally commonplace. Anyway, my point is that I really don’t think anyone wonders who you are as much as wonders whether any of the things you are saying are actually true. Also, where is it all going? You still haven’t said one thing that I can see as being genuine insider information. Just that you knew them growing up, that they were nice kids and that you spoke to Jen recently. But so what? What have you said that we don’t know already or couldn’t be made up without a little imagination and also cannot be proved or disproved? If you are an insider you are an insider without any gossip on them so what is the point – or am I missing something?

  241. WC Kitty said on January 22nd, 2015 at 1:52 pm

    “Yet, I know factually that AJ and JA were friends growing up. I can’t help but believe with all due sincerity that the whole thing has been contrived spanning years, literally.”

    So either AJ is lying about her age or ? There is a six-year gap in their age and while it does not mean a lot as an adult, it does to children. If Jen was say 15 years of age, then that would have made AJ about nine. They wouldn’t have much in common at the time and how many kids are close friends with that many years between them unless they were the only kids around. Also, I knew kids on my block who were nice and then something happens in their life that changes them, or were they really nice to begin with? I had more than one friend who one day was playing Barbies or trading Nancy Drew books with me and then a few years later had totally changed and was pregnant. And just because you know somebody or were even close to them doesn’t mean they won’t stab you in the back…after all AJ supposedly slept with mom’s boyfriend so why wouldn’t she go after JA’s husband?

    I also hope that people judge me for my own transgressions and not those of my parents.

  242. Guest2 said on January 22nd, 2015 at 2:19 pm

    @WC Kitty:
    That’s true about a 15 yr old being friends with a 9 nine year old. Also, Jen lived and went to school in NY until her late teens or early 20s and spent a year of her childhood in Greece. AJ grew up in LA and went to school there. Just more BS from a total BS artist.

  243. Guest2 said on January 22nd, 2015 at 2:29 pm

    Maybe you’re right but we’ve never really heard gay rumors about her except from pro-brangie loons. Not trying to be fresh but could your “gaydar” be off now that you don’t identify that way? Still, it’s Hollywood where gays are still very much forced to remain in the closet so knows what the truth is. In the end it’s her business. Same with Justin. Whatever their relationship is they seem to have a genuine friendship and in a phony place like Hollywood that’s something to be valued. She’s taken a lot of abuse because of her relationship with Pitt that I think she’s handled fairly graciously and I wish her well. The other two deserve to be knocked off their pedestal.

  244. Keane said on January 22nd, 2015 at 3:53 pm


    It’s not really about being a gay person and being able to tell when someone else is gay – I don’t even believe in the concept of “gaydar” myself as I have never known when someone else is or isn’t gay or not on the basis of intuition – other people may feel it but I never have! It is more about my assessment of her PR tactics and why she has taken the steps she has taken. Jen has staged photo opps with several different men since her split with Brad, none of which looked genuine. The world is rooting for her to find someone to put the ghost of Brange behind her, but she never has. I don’t buy JT as a boyfriend at all I’m afraid, those initial shots she did with him were set up and I have not been convinced by their body language or how their relationship seems to be playing out ever since. I don’t think it’s for real. But I honestly don’t blame Jen for what she has done and for trying to keep her real private life private – I actually think celebs do have a right to privacy about these things. I just kind of wonder what the reason is behind the subterfuge – journos are always looking for the story behind the story as it were! And BTW just to clarify, why I do not necessarily identify as gay, I don’t identify as “not gay” either – just that I am not so decided about it as I used to be. I was just trying to explain that to MM who seems to see the world as divided up between the “straights”, the “gays” and the “dykes” as he likes to call me!

  245. Togi said on January 22nd, 2015 at 3:59 pm

    I have to add my two-cents worth here (though with the cost of inflation and all, it’s probably worth a little less than absolutely NOTHING) :) You can rest assured that, unlike JA, I am NOT rich, famous or beautiful. HOWEVER, I MAY (or may not) have been a tiny bit HOT when I was young. lol. I married very young and divorced just 8 months after getting married. I remained unmarried and mostly single (as in very few serious relationships) for more than 13 years. If it weren’t for a little thing like getting pregnant, I never would have remarried. I can TOTALLY understand someone like JA NOT wanting to walk down the isle again. If I were in her pretty little shoes, I most certainly would NOT remarry. EVER. :)

  246. Togi said on January 22nd, 2015 at 4:01 pm

    Oh. And one other thing I forgot to mention: as far as I am aware of, I am not gay. lol@Togi:

  247. Keane said on January 22nd, 2015 at 4:05 pm

    @WC Kitty:

    Yes – the other part that doesn’t quite ring true to me is the difference in age between MM and AJ, JH and JA as children. He says he left home for the military at the age of 17 so to have known them all as children he couldn’t be much more than ten years older than AJ (as she would have then been 8 and JH what 6 when MM was 17). (If they had been any younger then how could he claim to really know what their personalities were like as they were so young?). Which would mean that MM can’t be much older than 50 as AJ is 39. But I seem to remember him saying he was much older than me which would imply to me that he was in his late 50’s or 60’s at least. So yes, it just doesn’t really add up to me – maybe MM could put me right?

  248. siska said on January 22nd, 2015 at 6:34 pm

    I have to put my two cent..he
    I think Jen and Justin us real,because Justin wasn’t a person who ever been link with other celebrity, he had 14 years relation with same woman. Even David the twin peaks director said its love. And there are several interview jen that witnessed Justin in the house n kiss her. I’m a romantic..so I might be wrong.. She had fair share of past men,but its natural wanna date n gave fun after a sad divorce. I think she might finally find her right partner with Justin. About the long engagement.. Its their right…she had several broken engagement n marriage.. So its natural she want to take time

  249. Guest1 said on January 22nd, 2015 at 10:01 pm

    “Yes – the other part that doesn’t quite ring true to me is the difference in age between MM and AJ, JH and JA as children.”

    I have always wondered how old MM was, considering some of the celebrities he has known/met are old Hollywood.

    I was reading this thread a couple of days ago and saw your post about Take Me to Church and Hozier. Someone posted that video on facebook, and I immediately loved it. I downloaded the song after hearing it the first time. I hear that song being played in the background of an ESPN show my husband watches, and also on commercials for a series on TV. I have read interviews with Hozier and he is very intelligent and articulate.

  250. Guest2 said on January 22nd, 2015 at 10:08 pm

    Payal, this is a review of Jen’s movie Cake that might explain why she didn’t get the Oscar nomination, nothing to do with her performance.


  251. WR said on January 23rd, 2015 at 1:53 am

    “Just because a woman doesn’t get married, doesn’t mean she’s gay”. Maybe you can show us where any one of us said that an unmarried woman is gay. Because, I, for one, would apologize if I said such a thing! My suspicions are just that, suspicions.

    No, we presented our opinions, only. Those of us who are not fans of JA, or AJ, really don’t care all that much about JA’s marital status; although we are happy when she is happy. We wish her the best.

    I personally have read the riot act on one site where they were accusing JA of everything AJ had done, instead. Nobody spoke up, but enough was enough!

  252. WR said on January 23rd, 2015 at 2:00 am

    I had read the term that is used for a man who is a PR stand-in for an actress. It was a word that is best forgotten, imo. It was used for more than a few female celebs. It would be the opposite of a “beard”.

  253. WR said on January 23rd, 2015 at 2:06 am

    Maybe a clearer statement, would be: “It was used for the sake of more than a few female celebs.”

    There is a site that is not to be trusted. That site is Entertainment Lawyer. Even the classical Hollywood blind items are suspicious. They need, and get the hits from curious people like myself.

  254. Keane said on January 23rd, 2015 at 9:58 am


    He’s great isn’t he – my friend and I are trying to get tickets to see him in a week’s time but the gigs are currently sold out and resales are going like hot cakes. I will let you know if I manage to catch the gig!

  255. Guest2 said on January 23rd, 2015 at 11:12 am


    Bearing that in mind, JA has “a real man”, and she’s been engaged 2 years, now. Sure, she’s been humiliated in front of the world; but why humiliate yourself further by withholding happiness for yourself with a better man? Time waits for no one, and a straight woman should grab the happiness of being part of a couple.”

    I was responding to this comment which I took as you saying she should get married and not withhold happiness for herself. Maybe I misunderstood what you were getting at. I probably should not have replied to you directly and just made a general post.

    It was Keane who suggested her lack of another marriage or what she perceived as no real relationships with men is one of the reasons she might be gay. I guess I would just add as a general comment to no one in particular that a woman can be happy without being married or even being part of a couple and it doesn’t mean she’s gay or that there’s something wrong with her. Society puts a lot of pressures on women to conform to certain standards of behavior or be thought of as being different or having something wrong with them. I don’t know what Jen’s proclivities are and nor does it matter to me, it’s her life. It’s the stereotyping about how women should live their lives that bothers me.

  256. WC Kitty said on January 23rd, 2015 at 1:10 pm

    I agree. I have heard several women say that if they were to be able to live their lives over that they would have never gotten married. Men can remain single and childless and nobody thinks it’s weird, but when it comes to a woman, nope. I also think that she was humiliated by a man that she thought she could trust in front of the world. On top of that, it was rubbed in her face along with the comments about her not wanting to have the child Pitt so desired, blah, blah, blah. The triangle was born and rumors were constantly making headlines, including those of the guys she was supposedly dating. She has been waiting for it to go away and is happy with the way things are. I don’t care if she does or doesn’t get married, has kids, or is whatever sexual orientation.

  257. Togi said on January 23rd, 2015 at 3:20 pm

    Here, here! Agree 100% with your comments. I can personally say that if something were to happen to my hubby, I would never, ever remarry. In fact, I would go so far as to say the ONLY reason I married was for my unborn daughter. I would have been perfectly happy with having my own place and having “sleep overs.” lol I’m probably going to burn in hell for saying that, but NOT saying it doesn’t mean God doesn’t already know it’s in my heart. ;) Personally, I believe men need women more than women need men. But that’s just MY opinion. lol @Guest2:

  258. Guest2 said on January 23rd, 2015 at 3:50 pm

    I agree about men needing women more than the other way around. But since there are men who post here I’ll say that’s a general statement and doesn’t apply to all men. Don’t want to be labeled a sexist, lol.

  259. Togi said on January 23rd, 2015 at 7:12 pm

    Yep. No labels or sexism because I also know PLENTY of women who need men. Dependency definitely goes both ways. :) @Guest2:

  260. morris maltenburg said on January 23rd, 2015 at 9:48 pm

    The problem you have Keane is quite simple,

    All of the stuff I post is true. You need to be clear in your own brain. JA, AJ, BP are all full of shit. They lie regularly as a course of action. Everyone of them have been involved in some very nefarious shit. I just happen to be one of those people that are not going to take the slightest bit of shit from them. All three of them have known I post here, specifically about them, for years. They know specifically who I am, and they know factually what the beef is.

    Stealing speelyberger wanted to produce American Sniper. Yet, for what ever reason he was not the actual producer. If you read any of the recent press, one of Chris’ trainers got up and stated what the producers and directors got right, and what they got wrong. If Vice Admiral Pybus, Rear Admiral Losey, and Master Chief Margarici had their way Kyle’s book, along with Matt Bissonnette’s two books, Marcus Luttrell’s book, Robert O’Neil’s book, and of course Jonathan Gilliam (CEO for Tactical Nannies,) would have never seen the light of day. Let alone movies enriching that FART BUCKET Cluckston Eastcockhead.

    When your combat group leader tells you to loose the number, and never in your life again, contact him, or anyone in the command that’s what it means. It is a polite way of saying FUCK OFF, permanently. These men were truly valiant warriors, no better than Marine Corp Force Recon, Army Air Borne Rangers or Berets, US Air Force Special Operations Command, or any one else. They violated their oaths, orders, professional ethos, and personal ethics, regarding being quiet professionals. They blew cover for the rest of some current heavy combat teams. People still standing the line. They know it quite personally, so do the rest of us, and it sure the hell is NOT some fucking joke. They have now been forever branded. Its truly a shame.

    Hollywood and all of your idolos are some of the most full of shit people walking this earth. Its not just JA, AJ, BP, TOP KUNNY KUNSTER, its the lot of them. They rip off other peoples lives to make money. Its no different then AJ and ITLOBH, she ripped off some one else’s work and claimed it was her own.

    The aforementioned former Navy Personnel let their own greed get the best of them. they started believing their own shit. They are not the only Special Operations Group Personnel. There are tens of thousands that have walked this walk long before these people ever served a single day of service.

    I speak from long term experience. You see Keane, I do not like HW because of the very serious very egregious crimes that they routinely commit.

    Jelly Azz Butt Head is not going to get an Oscar. Her movie hasn’t been released yet. This doesn’t stop her many constant press stories. I read many of the comment sections. These are not the type of people that frequent this site, female first, or really any other BS Gossip site. The majority of the people are sick of her. Same with Pitiful Fuckbag, and others… including Town Pump.

  261. morris maltenburg said on January 23rd, 2015 at 10:21 pm

    That’s because I was in Vietnam as a child, not a teenager, or young adult, as a child. When I returned home I grew up in Los Altos, CA. SF bay area. I am 12 years older then Jelly Azz Butt Head, and nearly 18 years older than Town Pump. You don’t know what your talking about.

    I met all of them after I had returned from the Marine Corp and was discharged. I was approximately 22 nearly 23 years of age. Jen was 12-13 years Town pump was 7-8 years. See Keane, its like I have repeatedly stated, YOU ARE FULL OF SHIT UP TO THE POINTY TOP OF YOUR PIN HEAD!!

  262. morris maltenburg said on January 23rd, 2015 at 10:26 pm

    My real father, the General, has been retired for many years. He is still alive today (early 90s), he served in the Air Force for nearly 50 years. He has been retired for a very long time. Tough Ole Man. He is definitely the real deal. A real part of walking talking history.

  263. morris maltenburg said on January 23rd, 2015 at 10:32 pm

    Do I have the exact dates. In a single word…”NO.”

  264. morris maltenburg said on January 23rd, 2015 at 10:36 pm

    I met them approximately 80.5 to 82.5, or very close in their. Like I stated, I didn’t write down the date. Its not like they were famous for anything.

  265. morris maltenburg said on January 23rd, 2015 at 10:37 pm

    They were not famous for Jack Shit at that time.

  266. morris maltenburg said on January 23rd, 2015 at 11:04 pm

    @WC Kitty:
    Very well stated Kitty,

    Since I know what I know, and could give to monkey fucks less what blow holes like Keane think or have to say. I believe, at a bare minimum Jelly Butt is a backstabber as well, a liar, a cheat, dis ingenuous, without a scintilla of doubt, at a minimum, an “EGREGIOUS FAGGOT HAGGIT-FAG HAG.” I seriously believe she has been in the past, or is still slightly a total Faggot LESBO. Nearly all of her friends are QUEER. I think she is an apologist for UTTER BULL SHIT. Her Eddie Munster was all fucked up with TOP KUNNY CUNTSTER in TROPIC BLUNDER. They are all deeply involved with the SCIENO HUVANO FAGGOT AZZEATER BROTHERS. Always have been as well.

    She has never done anything especially serious as an ACTRESS. This CAEK deal is probably the closest thing she has ever done. Once again she is all over the MAGZ, TABZ, and PAPPINGS. Nothing important to say.

    Her most recent statements about her grandmother is her fathers mother. Nancy Dow’s mother was even more evil than ole NANCY. She sure the fuck wasn’t GREEK.

  267. morris maltenburg said on January 23rd, 2015 at 11:27 pm

    Wait 3-4 more years…. Ole Eddie munster will be either drilling some other male’s shit hole, or attempting to preggers up some up and coming 20 something, or be on the down low doing both. Jelly Azz Butt Head will be kicked to the curb, if not sooner. Her career along with the Tramp Town Pump will be over.
    C’Ya…. later-BYE.

    Why would anyone call them A listers……… Why? As compared to whom? The fucking JIG is up.
    Compared to the young Turks coming up behind them?

  268. morris maltenburg said on January 24th, 2015 at 12:07 am

    Scientology’s Seduction of Tom Cruise, Role in Nicole Kidman Split Detailed
    The Hollywood Reporter

    January 21, 2015

    This story first appeared in the Jan. 18 issue of The Hollywood Reporter magazine.

    The past year hasn’t been kind to the Church of Scientology. Katie Holmes divorced Tom Cruise. A Vanity Fair cover story that revealed the Scientology-run “audition” process to be Cruise’s wife included an interview with one of Cruise’s original candidates who was forced, she claims, to scrub toilets with a toothbrush as punishment. Meanwhile, Scientologist John Travolta was hit with several lawsuits (albeit unrelated to the Church) that spawned endless Internet speculation. Behind those sensational headlines, details of an organization whose secrecy long has been guarded began to seep out with detractors using the Internet to expose the Church’s sacred documents and allege wrongdoing. Now, Pulitzer Prize-winning writer Lawrence Wright, who profiled ex-Scientologist Paul Haggis for The New Yorker in 2011, delves fullon into the history and inner workings of the Church of Scientology in his book Going Clear: Scientology, Hollywood, and the Prison of Belief.

    Despite bad publicity and questions about its size — one survey puts U.S. membership at 25,000 (the Church claims 8 million worldwide), with the largest concentration in L.A. — Scientology continues to survive, with ex-members claiming it has assets of about $1 billion. As many as 5,000 people belong to the Sea Org, its elite clergy. Adherents are drawn to Scientology’s emphasis on self-improvement, though the Church’s theology and practices remain unknown to the public. (Since 1993, the IRS has classified Scientology as a tax-exempt religion.) Wright’s account, which is detailed through Church documents, court records and hundreds of interviews, including many with ex-members, is disputed by Scientology, which declined to give interviews for the book.

    Karin Pouw, a representative for Scientology tells THR that, “The one thing ls clear’ about Lawrence Wright’s book is that he continues to carry water for a handful of angry, bitter individuals … [who] regurgitate six decades of bizarre tabloid allegations about the religion’s founder, its leadership and its prominent members.” Far from being in decline, she says Scientology opened 30 new churches in 2012. (Read Pouw’s complete response here.)

    Wright argues that the Church’s mystique rests mainly on its celebrity members. Early on, founder L. Ron Hubbard recruited Hollywood notables like Gloria Swanson. David Miscavige, who has headed the Church since Hubbard’s death in 1986, followed this strategy by cultivating Cruise, who has become the public face of the Church and one of its largest donors. Cruise, now 50, became a Scientologist in 1986 and the biggest celebrity to join the Church since Travolta. Cruise admired Miscavige’s confidence and bravado. Miscavige, in turn, was seduced by Cruise’s celebrity and opulent lifestyle. But by the mid-’90s, Cruise and wife Nicole Kidman drifted away from the Church, which frantically scrambled to win him back. In this exclusive excerpt, Wright details the relationship between Cruise and Miscavige, the star’s renewed commitment to Scientology following his divorce from Kidman and his emergence as possibly the second most- powerful figure in the Church. — Andy Lewis>

    For five days in October 1998, Tom Cruise, one of the biggest movie stars in the world, secretly drove into a private parking lot in the back of the historic Guaranty Building on Hollywood Boulevard, with the yellow Scientology sign atop. Charlie Chaplin and Rudolph Valentino used to have their offices here — now the lobby is a shrine to the life and works of L. Ron Hubbard. A giant bust of the founder greets the occasional visitor.

    Cruise went in a back door that led to a basement hallway and went directly to the “secret” 11th floor, where senior Church officials like David Miscavige and Marty Rathbun maintained offices. “He was not in good shape, spiritually or mentally,” Rathbun observed. “He was personally very enturbulated,” Scientology terminology for agitated.(1)

    Rathbun, then the Inspector General at the Religious Technology Center, which oversees the Church’s spiritual materials, had gone to Los Angeles to meet Cruise for auditing, the Church’s system of religious counseling. (Rathbun is no longer connected to Scientology and is now one of its most outspoken critics. The Church has dismissed his accounts and refers to him as part of a “posse of lunatics.”)

    Cruise, the Church’s most visible adherent, had been drifting away. According to Rathbun, Miscavige — Scientology’s de facto head since Hubbard’s death — blamed the actor’s wife, Nicole Kidman, and viewed her as a gold digger who was faking Scientology. He says that Miscavige was hopeful that if they portrayed Nicole Kidman as a Suppressive Person, Cruise could be peeled away from her.(2)

    After that episode of auditing, Cruise went quiet again. He and Kidman were in England filming Eyes Wide Shut for Stanley Kubrick. Suddenly, in January 2001, Rathbun said he got a call from the actor asking for help. Cruise said that he and Kidman were finished. Cruise never offered a public explanation for the divorce, and Kidman herself was clearly surprised by his decision.

    This was a decisive moment in Cruise’s relationship with Scientology. Rathbun provided the star with more than 200 hours of auditing over the next couple of years. From July through Thanksgiving 2001, Rathbun was with Cruise at the Celebrity Centre frequently, doing auditing rundowns. He paired Cruise with another actor, Jason Beghe, to do training drills; for instance, Beghe would think of a hypothetical date, which Cruise had to figure out using the E-Meter, a Scientology device that measures a body’s electrical resistance by gripping two metal rods, a guessing exercise Cruise found really frustrating. (Cruise’s attorney says, “Cruise may have had a chance encounter with Beghe at the Celebrity Centre but had no such meeting with him.”)(3)

    At the same time, 29-year-old Tommy Davis began acting as Rathbun’s assistant. He brought sandwiches and helped out with Conor and Isabella, Cruise’s two children with Kidman, making sure they were receiving Church services. Despite his youth, Davis was already a unique figure in the Church: He was a second-generation Scientologist, a member of the Sea Org, an elite group of about 3,000 that functions in effect as the Church’s clergy, and a scion of the Hollywood elite.

    His mother was Anne Archer, a popular actress who had been nominated for an Academy Award for Fatal Attraction. She had always been proud to associate herself with Scientology in public, speaking at innumerable events on behalf of the Church, and her son Tommy embodied the aspiration of the Church to establish itself in the Hollywood community. He had known Cruise since he was 18 years old, so it was natural that he soon became the Church’s liaison with the star. Rathbun assigned Davis to sit with Cruise in the parking lot of a Home Depot in Hollywood while the star was doing his Tone Scale drills — guessing the emotional state of random people coming out of the store.(4)

    Rathbun was opposed to the endless courtship of Cruise. In his opinion, there was no need for it once Cruise was securely back in the Church’s fold. He told Miscavige, “I think I’m done with this guy.” Miscavige responded, “He’ll be done when he calls me.” Rathbun believes the leader was galled by the fact that Cruise had never contacted him when he came back for counseling.(5)

    During the actor’s early years in the Church, Cruise and Miscavige, who are two years apart in age (Cruise was born in 1962, Miscavige in 1960), had been exceptionally close, drawn together by a similar meteoric rise to success. They were both short but powerfully built, “East Coast personalities,” said Sinar Parman, Miscavige’s then-private chef. They shared a love of motorcycles, cars and adventurous sports. Cruise had been a movie star since he was 21, with two popular movies in the same year, The Outsiders and Risky Business. By age 25, he was the biggest star in Hollywood, on his way to becoming a true movie legend. At the same age, Miscavige rose to his position atop Scientology. Each of these men assumed extraordinary responsibilities when their peers were barely beginning their careers, so it was natural that they would see themselves mirrored in each other.(6)

    Miscavige got involved in Scientology through his parents, who joined a Church near their Cherry Hill, N.J., home in the early 1970s and moved to its then-headquarters in Saint Hill, England, in 1972, where at the age of 12 David became one of the youngest auditors in the history of the Church — the “Wonder Kid,” he was called.(7)

    On his 16th birthday in 1976, he dropped out of 10th grade and formally joined the Sea Org, whose members dress in military-style uniforms — a remnant of its original purpose as Hubbard’s private navy. Less than a year later, he was transferred to the Commodore’s Messengers in California, an even more elite inner circle that enforced religious doctrine and served as Hubbard’s personal assistants. Here he continued to capture the attention of the Church hierarchy with his energy and commitment, renovating one of Hubbard’s houses and ridding it of fiberglass (which the founder said he was allergic to). Miscavige filled a spot in the founder’s plans that once might have been occupied by his troubled son Quentin Hubbard, who died in 1976 at age 22, although Miscavige displayed a passion and focus that Quentin never really possessed. Miscavige was tough, tireless and doctrinaire.(8)

    He was just 19 when Hubbard promoted him to Action Chief, the person in charge of making sure that the founder’s directives were strictly and remorselessly carried out, and then at 23 to head of Special Project Ops, running missions around the world to fix sensitive problems that local Scientologists themselves could not handle.(9)

    [After Hubbard died of complications from a stroke in January 1986, Miscavige consolidated power by becoming Chairman of the Board (COB) of the Religious Technology Center (RTC), which controlled the Church's intellectual property, and forcing out Hubbard's designated successors. By April 1988, he was essentially running Scientology, nominally reporting to a figurehead board, but in reality controlling the levers of power.]

    When it came to Cruise, Miscavige was bedazzled by the glamour surrounding the star, who introduced him to a social set outside of Scientology, a world Miscavige knew little about, having spent most of his life cloistered in the Sea Org. He was thrilled when he visited Cruise on the set of Days of Thunder, and the actor took him skydiving for the first time. Cruise, for his part, fell under the spell of Miscavige’s commanding personality. He modeled his determined naval-officer hero in 1992’s A Few Good Men on Miscavige, a fact that the Church leader liked to brag about.(10)

    STORY: Scientology Held Secret Auditions to Find Tom Cruise a Wife (Report)

    In the early ’90s, Miscavige surrounded Cruise and Kidman with a completely deferential environment as spotless and odorless as a fairy tale at Gold Base, Scientology’s desert outpost near Hemet, Calif. Miscavige heard about the couple’s fantasy of running through a field of wildflowers together, so he had Sea Org members plant a section of the desert with them; when that failed to meet his expectations, the meadow was plowed and sodded with grass. When a flood triggered a mudslide that despoiled a romantic bungalow specially constructed for the couple, Miscavige held the entire base responsible and ordered everyone to work 16-hour days until everything was restored.

    Miscavige showed his instinctive understanding of how to cater to the sense of entitlement that comes with stardom. It was not just a matter of disposing of awkward personal problems, such as clinging spouses; there were also the endless demands for nourishment of an ego that is always aware of the fragility of success; the longing for privacy that is constantly at war with the demand for recognition; the need to be fortified against ordinariness and feelings of mortality; and the sense that the quality of the material world that surrounds you reflects upon your own value, and therefore everything must be made perfect. These were qualities Miscavige demanded for himself as well

    Miscavige also cultivated Cruise to be a spiritual leader, not just a follower, having him trained as an auditor at Gold Base. Sixteen-year-old Sea Org member Marc Headley says he was among the first people audited by Cruise. He reported to a large conference room and right away noticed Kidman, who was also receiving auditing, and Kirstie Alley, whom he later came to believe was there mainly as a “celebrity prop,” since she did little other than read.

    STORY: Scientology-Inspired Movie ‘The Master’ Will Now Hit Theaters in September

    “Hello, I am Tom,” Headley remembers Cruise saying, vigorously shaking his hand. (Cruise, through his attorney, says he has no recollection of meeting Headley.) The actor handed Headley the metal cans that were attached to the E-Meter and asked if the temperature in the room was all right. Then he instructed Headley to take a deep breath and let it out. This was a metabolism test, which is supposed to show whether the subject was prepared for the session. Apparently, the needle on the E-Meter didn’t fall sufficiently. Headley was so starstruck that he was having trouble focusing.

    “Did you get enough sleep?” Cruise asked.


    “Did you get enough to eat?”


    “Did you take your vitamins?”

    Headley said he never took vitamins.

    “That might be the problem,” Cruise said. He went into the pantry, which was filled with snacks for the celebrities. Headley was used to the meager Sea Org fare, and he was taken aback by the cornucopia laid out. The actor found several vitamins and then asked, “Do you take a lot of bee pollen?”

    Headley had no idea what he meant.

    “Never had bee pollen?” Cruise said excitedly. “Oh, that will do the trick for sure.”

    He led Headley to his Yamaha motorcycle and rode the two of them to the base canteen. It was dinnertime, and the canteen was filled with Headley’s gawking co-workers. Headley was surprised to learn that there was bee pollen for sale, though he says Cruise didn’t pay for it; he just grabbed it, and they went back to the conference room. This time, Headley passed the metabolism test, though he privately credited a Danish he ate over the bee pollen.

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    According to Headley, Cruise helped him through the Upper Indoctrination Training Routines. “Look at the wall,” Cruise would have said, according to Hubbard’s specifications. “Thank you. Walk over to the wall. Thank you. Touch the wall. Thank you.” The purpose of this exercise, according to Hubbard, is to “assert control over the preclear and increase the preclear’s havingness.” (”Clear” is the state novice Scientologists aspire to that signals their subconscious, or “reactive,” mind is free.)

    Cruise went on to ask Headley to make an object — such as a desk — hold still or become more solid. Another exercise involved telling an ashtray to stand up, at which point the novice stands and lifts the ashtray, thanks the ashtray and then commands the ashtray to sit down. With each repetition, the commands get louder, so soon he is yelling at the ashtray at the top of his voice. The purpose is to come to the realization that your intention is separate from your words and the sound waves that carry them. These procedures went on for hours as Headley robotically responded to Cruise’s commands. “You learn that if you don’t do what they say, they’ll just ask the same questions 5 million times,” Headley recalled.(12)

    After becoming associated with Cruise, the style of Miscavige’s life came to reflect that of a fantastically wealthy and leisured movie star. He normally awakens at noon, with a cup of coffee and a Camel cigarette. Then he takes breakfast, the first of his five meals.(13)

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    According to Parman, the chef, he was eating “three squares and a snack at night” until the late-’90s, when he said he wanted to “get ripped and have six-pack abs” like bodybuilders featured in magazines. At the time, Miscavige changed physical trainers, began taking bodybuilding supplements and adopted a diet that requires each meal to be at least 40 percent protein and to contain no more than 400 calories. Soon, he was looking like the men in the magazines.

    To maintain Miscavige’s physique, chefs have to enter each portion size into a computer. Miscavige often starts the day with an omelet of one whole egg and five egg whites. Two-and-a-half hours later, lunch is provided. Two choices would be prepared daily, for both him and his wife. Dinner is a five-course meal, and once again, dual entrees are prepared for him to choose from. Miscavige’s favorite foods include wild mushroom risotto, linguine in white clam sauce and pate de foie gras. Several times a week, a truck from Santa Monica Seafood delivers Atlantic salmon or live lobster. Corn-fed lamb is flown in from New Zealand.

    When guests such as Cruise come to dinner at his well-appointed house, the kitchen goes into extravagant bursts of invention, with ingredients sometimes flown in from different continents. Two hours after dinner, the first evening snack arrives, with lighter offerings such as Italian white bean soup or clam chowder. After midnight, there is a final late-night snack — a selection of nonfat cheeses, an apple crisp or blueberry crepes, often garnished with edible flowers. Two full-time chefs work all day preparing these meals, with several full-time stewards to serve them. According to Headley’s wife, Claire, who oversaw the finances for the Religious Technology Center between 2000 and 2004, the food costs for the Miscaviges and their guests would range between $3,000 to as much as $20,000 a week.(14)

    At the end of the evening, Miscavige retires to his den and drinks Macallan scotch and plays backgammon with members of his entourage or listens to music on his $150,000 stereo system (he loves Michael Jackson) or watches movies in his private screening room (his favorite films are Scarface and The Godfather trilogy). He usually turns in around three or four in the morning.(15)

    He collects guns, maintains at least six motorcycles and has a number of automobiles, including an armor-plated GMC Safari van with bulletproof windows and satellite television and a souped-up Saleen Mustang that Cruise gave him to match his own. Until 2007, when he traveled, Miscavige would often rent Cruise’s Gulfstream jet, but he has since upgraded to renting a roomier Boeing business jet, at a cost of $30,000 to $50,000 a trip. His uniforms and business suits are fashioned by Richard Lim, a Los Angeles tailor whose clients include Cruise, Will Smith and Martin Sheen. Miscavige’s shoes are custom-made in London by John Lobb, bootmaker to the royal family. His wardrobe fills an entire room, and two full-time stewards are responsible for his cleaning and laundry. Cruise admired the housecleaning so much — even Miscavige’s light bulbs are polished once a month — that the Church leader sent a Sea Org team to Cruise’s Telluride retreat to train the star’s staff.(16)

    Miscavige keeps a number of dogs, including five beagles. He had blue vests made up for each of them, with four stripes on the shoulder epaulets, indicating the rank of Sea Org Captain. He insists that people salute the dogs as they parade by. The dogs have a treadmill where they work out. A full-time staff member feeds, walks and trains the dogs and enters one of them, Jelly, into contests, where he has attained championship status.(17)

    One of Miscavige’s favorites, a Dalmatian/pit bull mix named Buster, went on a rampage one day and killed 10 peacocks on the property, and then the dog proudly laid out his kill for all to see. Buster also attacked various members of the staff — sending one elderly woman to the emergency room — before being transferred to another base, causing staffers to joke he had been sent to the dog equivalent of Scientology rehabilitation.(18)

    The contrast with the other Sea Org members is stark. They eat in a mess hall, which features a meat-and-potatoes diet and a salad bar, except for occasional extended periods of rice and beans. The average cost per meal as of 2005 (according to Headley, who participated in the financial planning each week) was about 75 cents a head — significantly less than what is spent per inmate in the California prison system.

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    When members join the Sea Org, they are issued two sets of pants, two shirts and a pair of shoes, which is their lifetime clothing allotment; anything else, they purchase themselves. Although the nominal pay for Sea Org members is $50 a week, many are fined for various infractions, so it’s not unusual to be paid as little as $13 or $14.(19)

    There are lavish exercise facilities at the base — an Olympic-size pool, a golf course, basketball courts — but they are rarely used. Few are permitted to have access to computers. Every personal phone call is listened to; every letter is inspected. Cultural touchstones common to most Americans are often lost on Sea Org members at Gold Base. They may not know the name of the president of the United States or be able to tell the difference between the Republican and Democratic parties. It’s not as if there is no access to outside information; there is a big-screen television in the dining hall, and people can listen to the radio or subscribe to newspapers and magazines; however, news from the outside world begins to lose its relevance when people are outside of the wider society for extended periods of time. Many Sea Org members have not left the base for a decade.(20)

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    Cruise’s renwed dedication to Scientology following his divorce from Kidman permanently changed the relationship between the Church and the Hollywood celebrity community. Miscavige and Cruise became closer than ever. The Church leader flew with Cruise in the Warner Bros. jet to a test screening of The Last Samurai in Arizona. In July 2004, Miscavige hosted a 42nd birthday party for Cruise aboard the Scientology cruise ship Freewinds. Musicians (including Miscavige’s father) played songs from the actor’s movies as clips played on giant screens. Cruise himself danced and sang “Old Time Rock and Roll,” reprising his famous scene from Risky Business.(21)

    Cruise later said of Miscavige: “I have never met a more competent, a more intelligent, a more compassionate being outside of what I have experienced from [studying L. Ron Hubbard]. And I’ve met the leaders of leaders. I’ve met them all.”(22)

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    But the relationship ended when Miscavige addressed comments to her and she couldn’t quite understand what he said. She had to ask him to repeat himself more than once.

    The next day both Davis and Cruise dressed her down for disrespecting the Church leader. Naz had embarrassed Miscavige because he wasn’t able to get his message across. With his characteristic intensity, Cruise himself later explained the seriousness of the situation:(23)
    “You don’t get it, it goes like this,” Cruise said. He raised his hand over his head. “First there’s LRH.” He moved his hand down a few inches. “Then there is COB.” Bringing his hand down to his own eye level, he said, “Then there’s me.” (Cruise’s attorney denies that this exchange took place or that the Church set him up.)(24)

    A few months later, in April 2005, Cruise met Katie Holmes. The two were married in November 2006. Miscavige was Cruise’s best man. [Though she was often seen with Scientology officials, it has never been revealed how much, if any, Scientology training Holmes engaged in before she and Cruise divorced in 2012.]

    Cruise poured millions of dollars into the Church — $3 million in 2004. He was not simply a figurehead; he was an activist with an international following. He could take the Church to places it had never been before. Whenever Cruise traveled abroad to promote his movies, he used the opportunity to lobby foreign leaders and American ambassadors to promote Scientology.(25)

    Cruise repeatedly consulted with President Clinton, lobbying him to get Prime Minister Tony Blair’s help in getting the Church of Scientology declared a tax-deductible charitable organization in the U.K. Rathbun was present for one telephone call in which Clinton advised Cruise he would be better served by contacting Blair’s wife, Cherie, rather than the prime minister because she was a lawyer and “would understand the details.” Later, Cruise went to London, where he met with a couple of Blair’s representatives, though nothing came of those efforts.(26 )

    In 2003, he met with Deputy Secretary of State Richard Armitage and Vice President Dick Cheney’s chief of staff, Scooter Libby, to express the Church’s concerns over its treatment in Germany. Cruise had access to practically anyone in the world.(27)

    That same year, Cruise and Davis lobbied Rod Paige, the secretary of education during the first term of President George W. Bush, to endorse Hubbard’s “study tech” educational methods. Paige had been impressed. For months, Cruise kept in contact with Paige’s office, urging that Scientology techniques be folded into the president’s No Child Left Behind program.(28)

    One day, Cruise flew his little red-and-white-striped Pitts Special biplane, designed for aerobatics, to Hemet, along with his Scientologist chief of staff, Michael Doven. Miscavige and Rathbun picked them up and drove them to Gold Base. Rathbun was in the back seat and recalls Cruise boasting to COB about his talks with the secretary.

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    “Bush may be an idiot,” Miscavige observed, “but I wouldn’t mind his being our Constantine,” referring to the first Roman Emperor to convert to Christianity.

    Cruise agreed. “If f–ing Arnold can be governor, I could be president.”

    Miscavige responded, “Well, absolutely, Tom.”

    (Cruise, through his lawyer, denies this exchange and says he has no political ambition.)(29)

    Cruise turned his attention to the other Scientologists in the industry. Many had gone quiet following the negative publicity surrounding several high-profile exposés of the Church or had never openly admitted their affiliation with Scientology to begin with. Cruise called a meeting of other Scientology celebrities and urged them to become more outspoken. The popular singer Beck, who had grown up in the Church, subsequently began speaking openly about his faith. Erika Christensen, a rising young actress who was also a second-generation Scientologist, called Cruise her spiritual mentor.

    By the mid-2000s, Cruise was considered the unofficial Ethics Officer of Hollywood. He was the embodiment of Hubbard’s vision of a Church with temples dedicated to celebrity rather than God. Cruise’s intensity and commitment, along with his spectacular ambition, matched Miscavige’s own. It was as if Miscavige had rubbed a magic lantern and Cruise had appeared, a genie who could open any door. He was one of the few people Miscavige saw as a peer. Miscavige even wondered if there was some way to appoint Cruise the Church’s Inspector General for Ethics — Rathbun’s job.(30)

    “He’d say that Tom Cruise was the only person in Scientology, other than himself, that he would trust to run the Church,” one former Sea Org member recalled. Rathbun observed: “Miscavige convinced Cruise that he and Tom were two of only a handful of truly ‘big beings’ on the planet. He instructed Cruise that LRH was relying upon them to unite with the few others of their ilk on earth to make it onto ‘Target Two’ — some unspecified galactic locale where they would meet up with Hubbard in the afterlife.”(31)

    Lawrence Wright is a staff writer at The New Yorker and the author of six books, including The Looming Tower: Al Qaeda and the Road to 9/11, which won the 2007 Pulitzer Prize.

    Excerpted from Going Clear by Lawrence Wright. Copyright (c) 2013by Lawrence Wright. Excerpted by permission of Knopf, a division of Random House, Inc. All rights reserved.

  269. Keane said on January 24th, 2015 at 1:32 pm

    @morris maltenburg:

    At least we are getting down to some kind of factual timeline that makes vague sense now MM. If you come to this site claiming to be some kind of insider with a superior knowledge of these characters than anyone else does then you should be prepared to accept some scrutiny. Why should anyone posting here just blindly believe what you say without any evidence that you genuinely have a connection to these people? Everyone else who comes here has never met these people, we are purely giving our opinions of them on the basis of what we know of them from what they do in the public eye. But you come here and say you know all of this stuff as fact because you know these people personally. Well if that is the case and you want people to believe you (which you seem to want people to do) then I do not think it is too much to ask to respond to questions about the circumstances of how you knew them. Up until now all you have done is alluded to knowing them without offering any explanation as to how this came about. Still, I don’t quite understand, did you know them because they just lived in the same neighbourhood as you, because they were connected to your grandmother who you said was a music teacher I believe or because your family were friends with their parents? If you gave us this information perhaps then more people would give credence to what you say rather than finding your posts where you claim to know more about brange than anyone else without giving any explanation as to how that is, rather annoying! Is it really too much to ask that you explain a little how you came about the information that you have? And also, I still really don’t understand where it is all going, in terms of what information you actually have that you are purporting to give about them all? That they were all nice kids growing up but aren’t any more and are now all in it on the triangle together? Because if that is it then I think we have got the message, because I for one don’t struggle to believe that, I know how the game works. So yes, in summary, thanks for the clarification and seriously what is the need to get so defensive?

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  271. anonymous said on January 24th, 2015 at 4:29 pm

    Jolie didn’t live in California when this guy claims he knew her as a child. Try all you want to evince some sanity from this troll but you’re not going to get it. He is full of caca.

    For that matter neither did Aniston.

    I thought this guy’s grandmother lived in Kansas.

  272. pep said on January 24th, 2015 at 5:18 pm

    he’s a stalking nutsack that everyone should wide berth. trust.

  273. Keane said on January 24th, 2015 at 6:25 pm

    @morris maltenburg:

    No but Jon Voight was wasn’t he? If you were meeting them when they were children and you were an adult then their parents must have been with them? How does a man in his early 20’s, just out of the military end up meeting the young children of a very famous actor…?

  274. Guest2 said on January 24th, 2015 at 8:01 pm

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  276. morris maltenburg said on January 24th, 2015 at 10:50 pm

    They lived briefly behind my grandmothers house, and yes I met John Sr. on the same day. I was riding one of my racing bicycles and running my dog, and they were outside. My dog loved kids, and was always very gentle with them. Of course he was only a 3 year old at the time, so in many ways he was still a pup. They absolutely loved my dog. Of course my dog was an absolutely beautiful dog. My dog was half golden retriever, and half Border Colly. Just like my cat is beautiful. The other part of it was that John Sr. may have been an actor then, but he hadn’t become famous yet at that time. That’s the problem you have you stupid faggot pin head.

    She sure the fuck did to. She even had her own apt when she was 14 and that’s a fact. Her mother was always kind of a nut. If Town Pump states differently, she is lying her ass off once again. Typical for her, as usual.

    Screwtinize away doucher… I am not even remotely afraid of you or your bull shit trolls. You talk smack out the side of your neck on a regular basis. Just like with your BS about Duke Wayne being a FAGGOT like you. I have that on very good authority from some HW insiders that I know. They would like to get right up in your grill on that one.

    Did the Voight family live in my neighbor hood a long time… answer NO… just a brief time…like less than a year. They had the same mailman that my grandmother had for 25 years. He is still alive. Occasionally we go out for a cocktail together and chat about this BS. So you and your cocksuckers can go SOD THE FUCK OFF.

  277. morris maltenburg said on January 24th, 2015 at 10:54 pm

    Actually the only problem I ever had with John Sr. was after he had moved to HW and became involved with the Scienos. Yet, regardless, till this day, I will defend him against false accusations of child abuse made by his daughter TowN PUMP. The John Sr. that I knew, before he became Scieno, was a very decent person.

  278. morris maltenburg said on January 24th, 2015 at 10:59 pm

    There is another part FAGGOT BUTT EATER. This is when she had become involved with the Heavy Zebra Boys, was smoking Heroin, wearing a dog leash and collar. Her mother knew it as well. So did quite a few other people in the neighborhood. Essentially, everyone knew it. Stupid CUNT!!!

  279. morris maltenburg said on January 24th, 2015 at 11:03 pm

    Even the mailman knew it………… STUPID BULL DYKE!!!!

  280. morris maltenburg said on January 24th, 2015 at 11:04 pm

    For me personally, its really really SAD. Never had to be the way it was. Some people never learn.

  281. morris maltenburg said on January 24th, 2015 at 11:14 pm

    I am now going to post some thing else

  282. morris maltenburg said on January 24th, 2015 at 11:16 pm

    Aniston: Pitt-Jolie rift is made-up ‘story line’
    By Ian MohrJanuary 23, 2015 | 10:11pm

    No Oscar, no shirt, no problem: Aniston dazzles in sexy suit
    Jennifer Aniston says any reputed rift between her and her ex Brad Pitt, and his wife Angelina Jolie, is fabricated.
    “You know…it’s a made-up triangle. It’s a made-up dramatic story line,” Aniston told Marlo Thomas — who played Aniston’s mom on “Friends” — on Thomas’ Web series, “Mondays With Marlo.” “It’s now to the point where all of us — because everybody is happy…everyone’s moved on — it feels very silly at a certain point to keep harping on it.”
    She also told The Hollywood Reporter: “If the world only could just stop with the stupid, soap-opera bulls–t.”
    Aniston further told Thomas her dad, soap-opera actor John Aniston, advised her to stay away from showbiz before she made it.
    “Don’t do it. That was his advice,” the “Cake” star recalled. “He was sweetly just trying to protect me…but of course that just gave me the sort of bug to…prove him wrong.”
    Of any Oscar snub she mused: “An Oscar would have been lovely to be there but, you know, it didn’t — it passed pretty quickly… then you see, ‘Ah, these are the real things that matter.’ ”

  283. morris maltenburg said on January 24th, 2015 at 11:27 pm

    I still call BS on the notion that they’re not involved. Pitiful Fuckbag and Jelly Azz BUTT HEAD share the same PR FUCKERS.. The Scieno Huvano FAGGOT AZZ FUCK BAGS. Totally Faggot, Totally Scieno, totally hooked up throughout HW.

    Further, with their ritualistic search for constant attention, they have kept it alive. They get paid for all of their photos, story lines, interviews, etc. They are on the constant hunt for attention, and their own BRAND VISIBILITY. What films has Jelly Azz Butt head done that were ever that great. Yet she is worth supposedly between 150-250 million. This is all total BS and all of you know2 it. Quite frankly, I believe their are a few of the posters here that work for Pitiful-Town Pump, and Jelly AZZ BUTT FUCKER HEAD the FAGGOT HAGGIT.

    They get this shit written, published, and then they come out several weeks later with public denial. Then the process cycle starts once again. Most of their photos are recent, and massively photo SHOOOPED.

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  286. anonymous said on January 25th, 2015 at 3:37 am


    I rest my case. This troll knows nothing about these people, where they lived, when they lived where or anything else.
    And who the hell is John, Sr.?

    He’s just taking stupid tabloid gossip tidbits, mixing them up and inserting them into his fantasy “recollections.” He is either just plain disturbed or he’s taking a piss. Wadda fool.

  287. Keane said on January 25th, 2015 at 10:10 am

    @morris maltenburg:

    Ok so your concept of “knowing someone personally” amounts basically to having had a ten minute conversation with someone in passing on the street – is that it? For a moment I thought that at least then maybe they had lived in your area for some time so you knew about them from word of mouth/local gossip etc, but in fact no, they only lived in your area for less than a year – hardly a long time! Then after that your main point of contact was through the fact that you shared a mail man with them! I would say that I share a mailman with quite a few famous people that live in my area (Gordon Ramsay being one of them) but I would not claim a personal acquaintance with him as I have never actually met him! I genuinely thought that by “knowing these people personally” you were implying that they were friends of your family, that your grandmother was someone in show business and you were connected to them that way, but no, it was merely a passing interaction on the street! Seriously, if that is what you think qualifies you to “know someone personally” then there are a lot of people I could say “I know personally” – Bill Clinton, John Malkovich, Jon Bon Jovi, Ralph Fiennes to name but a few. By your rationale I could have “known Michael Jackson personally” when I was at college but I ddi not want to make his acquaintance because I was pretty sure he was a paedophile at the time. If this really is the sum total of your personal acquaintance with these characters I think it is time you took a bit of a back seat here because you really don’t know them any better than anyone else does. My goodness my friend/colleague had Brad Pitt round to her famliy’s house for dinner one evening way before he met Angelina but she would not claim to “know him personally” – I think it takes a bit more than a few hours in someone’s company to claim you are a personal acquaintance!

    And by the way, just to point out, it was not me that speculated that John Wayne was gay – he was way before my time and I am not remotely interested in him or know anything about him at all. I think you are getting who said what a little mixed up here!

  288. Keane said on January 25th, 2015 at 10:15 am

    @morris maltenburg:

    So what, may I ask, was your acquaintance with Jennifer Aniston? Did you meet her in passing while walking your dog as well?

  289. Keane said on January 25th, 2015 at 10:18 am

    @morris maltenburg:

    Who do you think works for them as there are barely any posters here right now? I would say there is only one person who is posting here right now who is on their payroll and I would imagine it is either Holly or James or a junior member of their PR team doing it. I really don’t think there is anyone else posting here at the moment who comes from their camp.

  290. Guest2 said on January 25th, 2015 at 2:33 pm

    Unless morris is James on crack I don’t think anyone from jolie’s camp is posting here. Why would they, there’s nothing to monitor, it’s almost dead here? What was left of the regular posters have been driven away by the lunatic’s rantings. Now FF I do believe they all post over there from jolie’s camp including her dameness, or I should say lameness.

  291. WC Kitty said on January 25th, 2015 at 2:57 pm

    AJ’s camp doesn’t need to post here anymore since MM has aided them in driving people off this board. This was an anti board (people who don’t like AJ, but have nothing against JA – Morris) with a few JA fans. IMO, most came here to talk, solve Ian’s riddles, and get away from everyday life). It was fun and it’s why I started posting here.

    Morris is free to post here, but speaking for myself, I don’t appreciate his wild rants filled with foul language. He’s made his point of who and what he doesn’t like and doesn’t grasp the concept that without verifiable proof others won’t just take his word for it.

  292. Keane said on January 25th, 2015 at 3:05 pm

    Well said WC Kitty!

    And in other news, here is AJ jumping on the ISIS bandwagon:


    I wondered how long it would be before she started to write herself into this narrative. I thought her people had made the assessment that it was too dangerous for her. Clearly with recent events overshadowing her pathetic meeting with the pope stunt they have decided to take the risk!

  293. Keane said on January 25th, 2015 at 3:14 pm

    Crikey – seemingly reading from a pre-prepared speech was a bit too much for our Ange – she seemed to be struggling to read there!

  294. Guest2 said on January 25th, 2015 at 3:53 pm

    I wonder how much this little gig cost her. Interesting that she pulls this stunt on the day of the SAG awards where she was completely shut out for any nominations and where her arch rival is nominated for best actress. I wonder if she got some inside info that JA is going to win. Not sure if you’re familiar with the SAGS but it’s the Screen Actors Guild – her peers vote for the nominees/winners. Pitt went to Sundance Festival alone and to the Producers Guild Awards alone. She went to the CCA awards alone. Are they married, separated, or just a continuation of the fake relationship?

  295. WC Kitty said on January 25th, 2015 at 3:55 pm

    This little pathetic PR stunt was predicted by a few posters over at FF. She just can’t let anybody else have their moment.

  296. Keane said on January 25th, 2015 at 4:24 pm


    It probably didn’t cost her anything as I expect it was CFR funded. I don’t think she funds these little trips herself as they would be too expensive in terms of the security that would be needed, insurance etc – she is definitely going as part of a larger organisation. I would imagine her people pick out particular conflict zones though and ask whether arrangements can be made for her to visit and when. I would imagine this one was last minute though as her people were hoping that she would be attending all these awards do’s and ideally end the evening with a gong in her hand and a triumphant look on her face. Sadly, yet again, it was not to be though. I was aware of the SAGs because I just saw an article in TDM about my friend’s cousin attending them. (Another person I could claim to know personally but we have actually never met so why would I bother!). I think Brange are a business partnership just like Jay Z/Beyonce and Kim K/Kanye. There is just so much money to be made out of this stuff and these people are greedy. On the flip side though you have people like the adorable Keanu Reeves who gave away $80 million of his $114 million pay cheque for The Matrix to the special effects staff – what an incredibly noble gesture – total self-sacrifice of the like that AJ would never dream. He is again someone I could claim to have some personal association with as my friend’s husband acted in one of the sequel with him and they used to hang out quite a lot. However, unlike MM, I do not mistake vague connections with people as “knowing them personally”! LOL

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  298. Guest2 said on January 25th, 2015 at 10:14 pm

    Why would the organization spend so much money to accommodate her PR stunts? I don’t understand it. I still think she pays for this in some way.

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    It’s definitely whats going on – she is their mouthpiece, she doesn’t come up with any of this stuff herself, she is too naive and uninformed. David Cameron is also thought to be a puppet Prime Minister, doing the bidding of the powerful financial interests behind the scenes. Which is probably why they chose to hang out together (lots in common!).

  305. morris maltenburg said on January 26th, 2015 at 1:48 pm

    You are such a fuck bag. Nope it was not just a passing 10 minute conversation. I actually talked with John senior for well over an hour. My dog played with the kids. They were essentially new in the neighborhood, and were doing the “NORMAL” thing in trying to get to know their neighbors, and the NEIGHBORHOOD it self. I spoke with him numerous times after that. Were we life long pals or something like that. In a single word “NO.” Did I know him pretty well, yes. Did I know his entire family other than his kids, NO. The one person that I did not meet that day was his wife Marchilene. I met her later. Like I have stated they lived in the neighborhood slightly less than a year before moving to the greater L A area.

    AJ on the other hand had an apt that her mother paid for. She had made friends at school before moving away, and also she had an apt, and her mother had some friends in the area, the apt was where she was first caught doping (smack) and doing massive fucking, everyone knew about her fucking episodes, she was quite open about it. One reason I feel she left, was specifically because the families in the community, regardless of many families being extremely wealthy, did not appreciate her antics. I further believe she left permanently out of boredom. At 13-15 years, she was absolutely a wild child at that time. I spoke with her personally about 6 years ago, she had even written me. We talked, it wasn’t a very great conversation. I pretty much let her have it. I was extremely pissed off because of some of the crap she had caused before she left. I seriously doubt I will ever really forgive her. She knows it as well. She knows she is out right guilty for lots of shit. Her whole persona is absolute BS.

    Keaney Peany you FUCK BAG BULL DYKE WEENIE, you are nothing important. You are a FAGGOT ASS DOUCHER, you’re full of shit, you talk out of the side of your neck, and are no one important. I owe you zero explanation about JACK SHIT ANYTHING. Your a BS turd eater. YOU ARE A STUPID AZZ BULL DYKE DIRT BAG NUTTER. GO EAT A SHIT SANDWICH. THE ONLY PERSON THAT HAS PENIS ENVY AROUND HERE IS YOU FUCKBAG! YOU ARE NOTHING BUT A PSYCHOBABBLE NUTTER.

    I could careless what she (AJ) has to say today. She is a fuckbag doucher just like you. She is in love with her own cunt and butt hole. The only thing you have right in all your time here is the fact that she is full of shit. That’s all. That’s the only thing you were correct about. Recently JA came out acknowledging that she is a monstrous control freak. That I absolutely concur with. I would also say the same thing and worse about AJ town pump. She is a control freak on steroids. What would you expect. She is another FAGGOT, just like you FUCKBAG.

  306. morris maltenburg said on January 26th, 2015 at 2:00 pm


  307. morris maltenburg said on January 26th, 2015 at 2:13 pm

    Scientology Doc ‘Going Clear’ Documents Church Abuse, Details Cruise-Kidman Split
    Brian RafteryJanuary 25, 2015

    A group of former Church of Scientology members received a standing ovation Sunday afternoon when they took the stage at the Sundance Film Festival in Park City, Utah following the premiere of Going Clear: Scientology and the Prison of Belief, a controversial new documentary about the Church.

    Drawing largely from the 2013 book of the same name by Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist Lawrence Wright, Going Clear documents several crimes allegedly committed by the Church, including physical abuse by its current leader, David Miscavige. Former Church members also appear on-camera to detail several instances in which they were threatened, harassed, or separated from their families by the institution.

    “For a film like this to get made, people have to come forward,” director Alex Gibney told the packed crowd during a post-screening Q&A.

    Among the movie’s revelations is that, though the Church’s membership is currently under 50,000 members, recent tax reports list its assets as totaling more than a billion dollars, much of it from real estate. It also claims that the Church’s founder, L. Ron Hubbard, physically abused his first wife, and at one point threatened to kill her.

    One of the film’s focal points is Tom Cruise, the Church’s most high-profile member. In archival clips — including footage from a lavish birthday party thrown for Cruise by the Church in the early ’00s — the actor is portrayed as a close friend of Miscavige, whom one former Church member says committed several acts of physical abuse. The film essentially calls on Cruise — whom Gibney and Wright claim has personally benefitted from the Church’s cheaply paid labor force — to renounce the Church and Miscavige and help end the abuse.

    The movie also features testimony from an ex-Scientologist who says he wire-tapped Nicole Kidman’s phone at the actor’s request, and that the Church deliberately wanted to separate him from his former wife, claiming she was a “suppressive person” because she refused to cut ties with her late father, a famed psychologist.

    Cruise, Kidman, and Miscavige all refused to comment to the filmmakers. The Church of Scientology has been actively rebutting the film, sending a statement to Yahoo Movies saying, “The accusations made in the film are entirely false and alleged without ever asking the Church.” The statement also directed readers to their longer response on the online magazine Freedom.

    Among the other big name Scientologists who declined to speak to Gibney is John Travolta, a life-long Church member. According to the film, Travolta’s faith to the Church has wavered over the years, but he doesn’t want to leave, for fear of his personal life being exposed by the Church.

    One of Travolta’s former Church handlers, Spanky Taylor — who worked closely with the actor during his early career — also appeared in the film. She recounts how she was punished by the Church by being forced to do menial labor while pregnant, and was later separated from her ten-month-old child, only to later find the child in a “urine-soaked crib” surrounded by fruit flies.

    Taylor and her daughter, Vanessa — whom Gibney described as “the stolen baby” — were among the on-stage guests following the film. “I, particularly, was really young [when I joined the Church],” Taylor told the crowd, explaining why she stayed in the Church for so long. “[I] had never read a book. And almost literally grew up thinking L. Ron Hubbard invented the wheel…you’re so slowly indoctrinated, and not questioning anything because [Hubbard] has the answers, and he establishes such credibility to you. So you continue to believe the nonsense.”

    One of the most emotional testimonies comes from a life-long Church member whose decision to leave the Church, she says, has resulted in her being cut off from her family, including her 7-year-old granddaughter. ”I’m just concentrating on smelling her hair,” she says in the film.

    HBO will air Going Clear later this year.

  308. morris maltenburg said on January 26th, 2015 at 2:26 pm

    Scientology Reps Slam ‘Going Clear’ After Well-Received Sundance Debut
    The Huffington Post | By Christopher Rosen

    Posted: 01/26/2015 9:45 am EST Updated: 1 hour ago

    After Alex Gibney’s new documentary, “Going Clear: Scientology and the Prison of Belief,” debuted to a standing ovation at this year’s Sundance Film Festival, representatives for the Church of Scientology slammed the film as “false information.”

    The Church has documented evidence that those featured in Gibney’s film regurgitating their stale, discredited allegations are admitted perjurers, admitted liars and professional anti-Scientologists whose living depends on the filing of false claims. All have been gone so long from the Church they know nothing of it today. Yet Gibney and HBO stonewalled more than a dozen requests by the Church to offer relevant information about them, with more than 25 individuals with firsthand information eager to speak. To this day, neither HBO nor Gibney can deny that they have yet to present the Church with a single allegation from the film so the Church may have an opportunity to respond. The Church never sought special treatment, only fair treatment.

    Gibney’s film, based on a book by Lawrence Wright, includes multiple allegations against the Church of Scientology and its most high-profile member, Tom Cruise.

    “Cruise is one of those who emerges from this the worst; Gibney’s film makes the claim that the actor’s reluctance to distance himself from the faith was the key factor in his split with Nicole Kidman,” wrote Brian Moylan in a review of “Going Clear” for The Guardian. “Footage of Cruise from official church events and video is chopped and spliced to put him in as dubious a light as possible; the film also accuses him of using Scientologist workers paid 40 cents an hour to trick out his cars and houses.”

    As Marlow Stern at The Daily Beast noted, Gibney’s film includes an interview with Mark “Marty” Rathbun, “formerly the second-highest ranking official in the Church of Scientology who left in 2004,” who alleges that Scientology leader David Miscavige disliked Kidman on account of her psychologist father. According to the film, Cruise apparently had Kidman’s phone tapped before the couple’s eventual divorce.

    HuffPost Entertainment contacted a representative for Cruise to comment on the allegations; this post will be updated if and when they respond.

    As for the film itself, critics were enamored with Gibney’s work. “Going Clear” was hailed as “jaw-dropping” and a “game changer.” It will air on HBO in March. “We have probably 160 lawyers [looking at the film],” HBO’s president of documentary films, Sheila Nevins, told The Hollywood Reporter in December.

  309. morris maltenburg said on January 26th, 2015 at 4:32 pm

    Documentary says Tom Cruise had Nicole Kidman’s phone tapped

    By Kyle Smith

    January 26, 2015 | 12:08am

    ‘Going Clear’ Scientology doc makes for compelling cinema

    PARK CITY, UTAH — A former top official of the Church of Scientology says he ordered Nicole Kidman’s phones to be tapped at the suggestion of Tom Cruise and church head David Miscavige.

    Former Scientologist Mark “Marty” Rathbun, a member of the church for many years and a key aide to Miscavige, makes the allegations in an explosive new documentary, “Going Clear: Scientology & The Prison of Belief,” which debuted here Sunday at the Sundance Film Festival.

    Kidman and Cruise’s relationship, which began after they met on the set of the 1990 film “Days of Thunder,” was looked upon with disfavor by Scientology officials from the start, according to the documentary, directed by Oscar winner Alex Gibney (“Taxi to the Dark Side”).

    Scientology founder L. Ron Hubbard disliked and distrusted psychiatrists and psychologists, and the animosity toward the field remains in today’s church, according to the documentary. Kidman’s father, Dr. Anthony Kidman, who died last year, was a prominent psychologist in Australia.

    During his marriage to Kidman, Cruise was only tenuously connected to the church from about 1992 to 2001, according to Scientology experts interviewed in “Going Clear,” which is based on Lawrence Wright’s 2013 book of the same name.

    The church, according to the documentary, wanted to break up Kidman and Cruise so that Cruise would more enthusiastically embrace the church and help publicize its mission.

    The Church of Scientology denied the claims in a statement, saying: “The accusations made in the film are entirely false and alleged without ever asking the Church.”

    After Cruise and Kidman split in 2001, Cruise did indeed become a more vocal proponent of Scientology, culminating in his bizarre round of media appearances in 2005, when he strayed from the script while promoting his movie “The War of the Worlds” and publicly chastised the field of psychiatry and Brooke Shields for using antidepressants in a notorious “Today” show appearance.

    The church became particularly worried about Cruise’s dedication to Scientology in the late 1990s, when he spent an entire year in England with Kidman filming “Eyes Wide Shut.”

    Around that time, Rathbun says in the film, Cruise said he was worried about Kidman and suggested her phones be tapped.

    Rathbun said he related this idea disdainfully to Scientology Chairman Miscavige, who swore, “Goddamn it,” and ordered Rathbun to get it done.

    Rathbun says in the film that he ordered the phones tapped, but it’s unclear what information, if any, might have been uncovered by the process.

    Rathbun, who alleges that Miscavige beat and abused him and says he himself served as an “auditor” who extensively interviewed Cruise about personal traumas, left the church after more than 20 years in 2004.

    He has previously said he believes the church brainwashed Kidman and Cruise’s adoptive children, Connor and Isabella, to turn them against their mother.

    The church slapped Kidman with the dreaded label “suppressive person,” Rathbun told NBC’s Brian Williams in 2012.

    HBO had 160 lawyers vet “Going Clear,” which it plans to broadcast on March 16.

    The film contains footage of Cruise praising Scientology at revivalist-style meetings of the faithful — at one point, saluting a portrait of Hubbard while calling out, “To L.R.H.”

    At the film’s Sundance premiere, some of the people involved in the movie said they were being watched.

    “They’ve been following me for five years,” said Mike Rinder, the church’s former spokesman. “I get followed everywhere. I get followed to the mall, I get followed to the supermarket. They go through my garbage.”

    The Church of Scientology released a statement last night that attacked the movie, and saying filmmakers refused to meet with church reps.

    “Their sources are the usual collection of obsessive, disgruntled former Church members kicked out as long as 30 years ago for malfeasance, who have a documented history of making up lies about the Church for money,” the statement read.

    A rep for Cruise did not return a request for comment from The Post on Sunday.

  310. morris maltenburg said on January 26th, 2015 at 4:47 pm
  311. Keane said on January 26th, 2015 at 7:18 pm

    @morris maltenburg:

    So you met Jon Voight and had a casual conversation with him on the street like you would with a particularly friendly random stranger, and repeated that casual conversation on several occasions afterwards (even though they no longer lived in the area). Sorry MM but that does not amount to being a personal acquaintance – it would be the equivalent of me saying I am personal friends with my mailman! (Oh yeah, I forgot, he was a personal friend of the Voights as well wasn’t he, silly me!). From the encounters you have described there is no way you could know any of these characters personally, in just the same way as I could not lay claim to knowing any of the people I mentioned other than to say very superficial things like Ralph Fiennes was incredibly shy, modest and humble, Jon Bon Jovi was extremely warm, generous and great fun, John Malkovich thinks “all actresses are whores” and Bill Clinton always has time for everyone despite his ridiculously busy schedule and has great taste in running shorts! I really do not know any more about them than that, and I certainly do not “know them personally”. “Knowing someone personally” means that you know someone socially, that they are a friend, colleague or friend of a friend who you’ve had quite a lot of interaction with. The encounters you are describing and I am describing are just meetings, they are noteworthy but ultimately meaningless. As I said before, if we are including random meetings with people as members of our personal acquaintance than I could say that I know a hell of a lot of very famous people, but newsflash, that is not the case! And as for me thinking I am important well I think that is like the pot calling the kettle black. It seems to be your very raison d’etre to persuade us all how you know everyone there is to know in HW, every significant person in the military, as well as victims of notorious crimes – thus trumping everybody else’s opinion on any subject! So no, I don’t think I’m important by virtue of my loose association with some famous types no, which is the very reason I never bother to mention it! I honestly think it is time for your to fess up I’m afraid, you have had a few brief and random encounters with these types over time and have stitched a story together about them from whatever else you have managed to glean through second-hand information (like through the mailman) and through from what you have picked up from the tabs (which it is clear from your postings here that you read assiduously). Sorry MM, but I’m just not buying what you’re selling!

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  313. anonymous said on January 26th, 2015 at 10:04 pm

    morris maltenburg said on January 26th, 2015 at 4:47 pm


    Finally he’s making sense.

  314. anonymous said on January 26th, 2015 at 10:07 pm


    “I think it is all CFR funded – I think they are backing her to be President so see it as an investment. If they can get her into power then she will do what they tell her to do so they are in control. That’s my take on it!”

    Oh, dear. Are you back off your meds? I was so happy to see you back to functioning in reality – albeit nasty as ever at least out of bed and functioning.

  315. anonymous said on January 26th, 2015 at 10:21 pm

    @morris maltenburg:

    I can’t believe I am responding to your crazy but Voight never lived in the Bay area while married to Marcheline.
    The apartment Angelina lived in was less than a block from her mom’s and above the garage of her mom’s friend and her mom could see it from her window. It was in no way an expensive neighborhood. She only lived there for a very brief time.

    You are making all this up and whether you are just a silly attention seeking liar or seriously disturbed is something I’ll leave for others.

    Keane’s sexual preference is her own business and just because she chooses to share her thoughts on it now and then doesn’t give you license to be such an ignorant b1tch about it.

    In the past the UNHCR has said that Jolie always paid for her own transportation costs for UNHCR field missions. Obviously they are run by the UN. If the CFR was involved they’d say so – there is nothing about the programs of the CFR that needs secrecy.

  316. Keane said on January 27th, 2015 at 6:53 am


    Hi James x

  317. Keane said on January 27th, 2015 at 7:17 am


    Hi Holly x

    Btw I have never suffered from any mental illness as I am fortunate enough to be very resilient in this regard having had a very good childhood. I know not everyone is as fortunate though and would appreciate it if you would stop mocking those people by making comments like “are you back on your meds”. I think the world has moved on quite far in terms of our understanding of mental illness and people who are suffering from it and think you should do likewise.

    P.S. I still think it’s Cfr funded, there’s no way Angie would be getting these gigs without their backing (thanks for that Trevor). The fact that you are so quick to come back at me is always a good indication that I’m on the right track!

  318. Keane said on January 27th, 2015 at 11:13 am


    Shall we talk about the “twins” again then? If that is what you would rather…

  319. WR said on January 27th, 2015 at 2:04 pm

    If anyone wondered why there is so much focus on the Yukon River, I’ll let you know my take on it. I believe there are powerful interests who covet the land, there, and in all of Alaska. That’s why we are being bombarded with shows, daily. With global warming, these land areas are becoming easier to live on. One doesn’t see the original occupants of the land, (on the television); instead, one sees white newcomers showing off their “skills” living off the land.

    So, there you have it. The invasion of The Yukon River area. It’s happening already, at the beginning of the river. This will spell disaster for the natives, who live on the river banks. Already, they are being harassed by the law, restricting their livelihood of hunting, fishing and trapping.

  320. WR said on January 27th, 2015 at 2:14 pm

    Back to Brangelina: I try to talk to our few resident experts on conspiracies… about Brangelina. They just don’t care for Angie. Brad, they tolerate. So, they dismiss, with a laugh, any mention about the push for Angelina in politics.
    The media did publish her self-proclaimed “availability” for politics, not that long ago. There were no takers that were published; nor did they mention any political party of preference.

  321. Keane said on January 27th, 2015 at 3:47 pm


    Yes it is funny isn’t it, the way she touts for a job. She did the same when she wanted the Maleficent gig, showing up to premieres with Brad in witchy garb. Fortunately for our Ange, “Angelina the Witch”, was not a difficult look for our hero to pull off! lol

  322. Keane said on January 27th, 2015 at 3:52 pm


    In other news, day two of Angelina’s tour of Iraq photo shoot has been released to the press. The story is not getting many comments on TDM website though (her spiritual home). Just shows how quickly those returns diminish…

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  324. morris maltenburg said on January 28th, 2015 at 12:51 am

    You seriously do not know what your talking about. They absolutely did to live here. Not very long, yet they did live here. My mailman will absolutely tell you that with out a scintilla of equivocation. You are full of shit. John Voight Sr. was not yet famous in Hollywood at that time. She did not have an apt above a garage, she lived in a very nice apartment complex that stands until this day. Really what you are is a fuck bag that works for Town Pump or someone connected to her that is quite obvious.

  325. morris maltenburg said on January 28th, 2015 at 1:04 am

    No one asked you to respond you idiot fuckbag. I don’t give a flying fuck what you say. She did NOT live in an apt above a garage whatsoever. For the time that they had the apt in the outskirts of LOS ALTOS/ MOUNTAIN VIEW she lived in an apt that was in a very nice Complex, period…. Get it FUCK HEAD. You must be some blow hole in AJ’s employ… A fuckbag nonetheless. AJ has lied for years, she’s fucking nutz.

    All of you that actually think that Jolie is being POSITIONED for a WH run are absolutely fucked up in the head. That will never play out. The Democraps are never going to run her, She sure is not Conservative, and the Independents are not going to run her either. What a fool………….
    Cunners. Your postings speak volumes about how mentally fucked up you are. If you are the Holly that works for AJ… tell her for me, I haven’t forgotten all the low life shit she pulled with the Heavy Zebra Boyz………………..

  326. Keane said on January 28th, 2015 at 9:32 am

    @morris maltenburg:

    By the way MM I meant to say, I don’t believe you aren’t telling the truth here now we are getting down to detail, just that by alluding to your relationship with these people without really giving us any specific information about how you knew them or even what you knew about them, you have overplayed your acquaintance with them considerably, without actually telling us anything that we don’t know already. Now if you had said, they lived in my community/neighbourhood as children and I was aware Angelina was moved into her own flat at the age of 14, that would have been interesting to me just because it shows that her mother wasn’t really that interested in her and that what she says about her being a great mom is a lie. It also explains why she is so desperate for attention and fame at any cost and why she is so volatile. So yes if you have any more detail like this then please do go ahead and share it with us, if you are so inclined. It is much more interesting than the vague allusions to things without any real evidence that you have given us up until now.

  327. bl said on January 28th, 2015 at 9:50 am

    @morris maltenburg:
    According to his bio on IMBD, Jon Voight was in Gunsmoke in the late 60s and Deliverance in 1972. So he definitely was ‘famous’ as you put it, in the late 60s and definitely in 1972. Since you didn’t graduate high school until 1975, that would make you 20 years old around 1978/79. He did The Odessa File in 74 and Coming Home in 78, so he def was a well known lead actor by that time.

    So Seamus Meehan/James Sullivan, you are a full of shit delusional stalker. I know who and what you are. You’re the caps loon Jen obsessed nutter on Female First. You’re seriously disturbed and should be locked away so you don’t scare or hurt anyone ever again.

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  331. morris maltenburg said on January 28th, 2015 at 6:51 pm

    true enough… yet his real stardom didn’t occur until what was it mid night cowboy. I do not post at female first. Regarding the years, I was in the Marine Corps from 74 on. As far as stalking Jelly Azz Butt Hole, haven’t seen her in years, have not been to LA in decades, have no intention of going to LA, or NY for that matter. Could give to flying fucks what you think about dick squat.

    I am not a BRIT, and don’t know anything about this REDMAYNE Character. I don’t think he lives in the Greater SF Bayarea either. Oh yeah deliverance…. getting shit hole fucked by a couple of three hick hillbillies…. now that was what… a film people want to remember? Further, I didn’t watch any of those films. When I left the Corps I was way to busy for any except working, and building my career.

    SO LG… GO EAT SHIT… and SOD THE FUCK OFF dirt bag. I could give to flying monkey fucks what you think, or AJ TOWN PUMP FUCK BAG THINKS, or that looser AZZHOLISTON.
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  332. Keane said on January 28th, 2015 at 7:24 pm

    @morris maltenburg:

    It’s a joke MM – I was implying that you were a celebrity stalker! Surely you got the gag? And you must know who Eddie Redmayne is – if you don’t, better start looking him up – his career is on fire right now!

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