IUC Exclusive: AJ’s Expensive Wedding Gift; New Hollywood TEll All; IUC Travel on Eurail

Posted on November 11th, 2014 by HisHighness in IUC: Travel, IUC:Arts

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IUC Travel: Extreme comfort and a little old fashioned appeal make traveling by Eurail the most desirable way to see Europe. I have traveled to Europe countless times the past decade to promote my books and films. Nothing compared to the amenities Eurail offers. One of the highlights was during the ride from Budapest to Slovakia. I spent most of the trip in the dining car, enjoying an amazing dinner of goulash and red wine. It’s a great way to converse with other passengers and to hear stories about their travels. Eurail beats being on a plane staring at clouds with air pressure building in your ears. The views on the trip were breathtaking. And everyone seemed extremely satisfied with the train’s comfort and amenable staff.

  1. WR said on November 11th, 2014 at 1:56 pm

    Eurail sounds terrific! Oh to see those views!

    OT: Happy Veterans Day! Thank You to all, men and women who served. Thank You to their supporters.

    Couldn’t work up any enthusiasm for AJ’s wedding gift. Rihanna is physically beautiful. Many bloggers feel she faked her pregnancy.
    Katie was first, then others copied her.
    Glad she quit scientology.

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  2. WC Kitty said on November 11th, 2014 at 2:31 pm

    @WR:
    I understand how people can believe that something was up with Suri’s birth with all the secrecy, but if Katie Holmes faked her pregnancy with Suri, it was only to hide the true date of her birth. This photo shows a belly of a woman who has been pregnant.
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2531389/Katie-Holmes-strips-hot-pink-bikini-lounges-poolside-Suri-Miami.html

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  3. WC Kitty said on November 11th, 2014 at 2:48 pm

    I meant these as there is a photo towards the end that really shows it to the point that posters are talking about it.

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  4. WR said on November 11th, 2014 at 4:10 pm

    @WC Kitty:

    Regarding the first part, it was discussed a lot in Defamer.com, for just one site. And the gist of the argument, was that Katie gave birth to Suri, then the scienos had her put on a cover so that she appeared, still, pregnant.
    There was a lot of discussion about the odd sizes and positions of her “fetus”, if you will.
    This was to co-incide her giving birth with the timetable of her wedding to TC.

    Some of the discussion was about the time she allegedly gave birth to Suri. (After the fact). No one could produce a convincing birth ceritificate. A nurse supposedly signed it, but no one could pinpoint the nurse’s true identification.
    Ironically, Brooke Shields was on the same ward with her own delivery. (Remember TC’s bizarre accusations against Brooke S?”)

    I had printed an article, or two, about TC, and his cult at the time. It fascinated me, because it was reported that he bragged about a slick mag’s contention that he was the most powerful figure in Hollywood. That was not that long ago!

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  5. WR said on November 11th, 2014 at 4:16 pm

    @WR:
    I did recently read about TC allegedly complaining to his “church” officials, about their lack of success in finding a “girl friend” for him. The last I heard was Lindsay Lohan might become his new romantic interest. She, it was reported, was one of the finalists the last time he went looking, when Kate was the successful candidate.
    Her outstanding allure was such that TC stared jumping on couches for pure joy! (That part we saw!)

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  6. WC Kitty said on November 11th, 2014 at 5:30 pm

    @WR:
    I do remember TC;s weird behavior. I do enjoy his movies and respect that he does his own stunts. He appears to be a control freak and more.

    I’ve enjoyed watching KH in a couple of movies. As far as the pregnancy, I also remember all the secrecy and then all the rumors. I agree that there was something going on and whether it was due to his cult or moving of the birth-date or both IDK. I’m glad she is on her own and she appears to really love her daughter.

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  7. Guest2 said on November 11th, 2014 at 5:41 pm

    The reference to AJ’s wedding present to BP I think has to do with the rumor that she put $11,000 down on a $250,000 typewriter that once belonged to Ernest Hemingway. Apparently, she later changed her mind about buying it. I think it’s she who put the rumor out. I thought maybe Jen bought it for Justin which would make more sense since he is a writer. But with the picture of Clooney above maybe it was Amal buying it for him since he is also a writer. Maybe the psycho wanted to make it look like she could have had it first but changed her mind. I think Jen owes George a big thanks for getting those two off her back. George can outsmart them both.

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  8. WC Kitty said on November 11th, 2014 at 6:03 pm

    @Guest2:
    Or she wanted to put the illusion out that they still have a lot of money as well as that Brad is also a writer! After all he is an art expert; wine expert; architect; designer of uncomfortable and ugly furniture; director; actor; expert father; and I’m sure others could add to that list. :roll:

    IMO, Clooney is doing his best to put to rest those friendship rumors with Brad. Brad rides everyone’s coattails. Did you read the article about Jen over at FF? She appears to also wanting to put the past to rest.

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  9. Guest2 said on November 11th, 2014 at 7:11 pm

    @WC Kitty:
    I did read that interview. I thought she smartly put the past to rest in a very kind and gracious way.

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  10. Guest2 said on November 11th, 2014 at 7:13 pm

    It should be interesting to see what the former Disney exec says in his book.

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  11. morris maltenburg said on November 12th, 2014 at 4:17 pm

    Hollywood gets rocked again….. Great News Today!!!

    http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/hollywood-sex-abuse-film-revealed-748375 http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/hollywood-sex-abuse-film-revealed-748375

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  12. morris maltenburg said on November 12th, 2014 at 4:39 pm

    More news that you will want to read

    http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/11/12/us-usa-drugs-un-idUSKCN0IW1GV20141112

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  13. morris maltenburg said on November 12th, 2014 at 4:56 pm

    I say put some lipstick on these pigs and fire the lot of them….Most especially that Vapid Jezebel.

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  14. joanne said on November 12th, 2014 at 4:58 pm

    @morris maltenburg:
    of course they will ruin it. there is big bucks in the ‘drug war’.

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  15. morris maltenburg said on November 12th, 2014 at 5:17 pm

    This is such a great interview its not funny….. total payback for the kartraheapians!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2830520/Bruce-Jenner-s-mother-not-fan-son-s-new-effeminate-look-lets-rip-controlling-monster-ex-Kris-no-holds-barred-interview.html

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  16. morris maltenburg said on November 12th, 2014 at 5:19 pm

    @joanne:
    Joanne,
    Yup… Since when does the UN run this country? This is America. If the electorate voted it, regardless of how many people feel differently, the electorate voted affirmative in many many states.

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  17. morris maltenburg said on November 12th, 2014 at 5:24 pm

    You may not like Un FOXY newsiness…. Yet they got the WHITE HOT SMOKIN GUN ON THIS ONE!!!

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/11/12/another-tape-surfaces-obamacare-architect-calling-american-people-stupid/

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  18. pep said on November 12th, 2014 at 6:26 pm

    @morris maltenburg:
    he’s not being inaccurate in that statement. Many Americans are.

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  19. Guest2 said on November 12th, 2014 at 9:47 pm

    Hey Payal, not sure if you still read here but I was just looking at pics of the HB2 premiere in London and wondered if you were in the crowd of people taking pictures with Jen.

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  20. joanne said on November 13th, 2014 at 2:06 am

    @pep:
    yep

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  21. WR said on November 13th, 2014 at 2:22 am

    @WC Kitty:
    It would be very interesting, indeed, if word came out about the methods used by scientology and Brangelina to silence owners of cyber space sites. Some astute owner should keep notes, because there is a market out there for all this manipulation going on.

    From what I read, Scientology plays rough, even unto suspicions of murder. After all, they say, millions of dollars are at stake. The love of money being the root of all evil.

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  22. WR said on November 13th, 2014 at 2:42 am

    OT;
    Pundits are beside themselves awaiting the arrival of “Selma”. This is the project from Oprah, and also from Plan B.
    As we have pointed out, BP picks sure fire projects that the voters and critics have little choice, but to rave about. But there is a certain legitimacy with O’s involvement. She’s getting more savvy about how the awards work. It just might be as good as the pundits anticipate it to be.
    This period of the Civil Rights movement is more familiar to moderns.

    A more difficult undertaking would be how blacks have fared in the movies, after “Birth of a Nation”. That was a bona-fide blockbuster in the early part of the last century. After that movie, and until the ’40s, black males were depicted as being rather slow.
    In the late ’40s, there were a few movies that finally showed the noble side of black males. Of course, there may have been some before that; but, very few, if at all.
    ‘Then, in the early ’50s, Sidney Poitier came along. He got a tremendous boost by actor, Richard Widmark.

    Who would have the courage to tell inside stories? If they can censor web sites, then they can keep the inside stories untold.

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  23. WR said on November 13th, 2014 at 2:45 am

    @Guest2:
    My first reaction to that news item, was that Ernest Hemingway must be rolling over in his grave!

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  24. LG said on November 13th, 2014 at 10:42 pm

    I’m sure some days Brad goes ballistic thinking about Angelina’s desperate postings which he only finds out about about when they are in print, meaning, posts about expensive gifts.

    I’m also sure he would desperately love it if she was contented being a traditional stay at home mother. But he knows that ship has sailed and he does his best to provide stability to not just the children but to a mentally disturbed woman who he loves, not passionately like he did but because she is the mother of his children. He knows she’s nuts and he really, really tries to cover for her lest the press hook their teeth into her instability

    I still think that the psychic Brad Ward came forward about the pairs’ relationship for only two reasons. Either he is desperate for work and needs to ride on the coat-tails of influential friends or Brad paid him well to post that article just before the Miravel Wedding. Brad is trying to tell us he is strong but at times unhappy because of Angelina’s insane grip on them all

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  25. WR said on November 13th, 2014 at 10:46 pm

    @WR:
    The Los Angeles Times today reported that twitters about “Selma” are all over the Internet. Supposedly, the twitterers are calling ‘Selma” the most this, the most that. Can we say, “HYPERBOLE”? They are overpraising the movie which won’t open for a while, yet. Hmmm!
    Smells like something is rotten in movieland!

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  26. LG said on November 13th, 2014 at 10:56 pm

    OOPS Correction…Ron Bard is the name of the psychic I mentioned in my post before this post. Just like the bodyguard called “Bill” who came out a few years ago about Angelina’s less then exemplary behaviour towards Brad and the children, Ron is also a Jolie Pitt insider given the nod by Brad so that he has some kind of control of the “out of control”Jolie insanity train.

    If Brad wasn’t strong than the whole family would fall apart. Angelina has lost the plot. Brad is the one trying to steer them all to safe ground

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  27. Guest2 said on November 14th, 2014 at 12:24 am

    @LG:
    I guess he was so bored in his prior life that he signed up for a long, wild ride on the crazy train. I don’t feel sorry for him but I do feel for those innocent children who didn’t have a choice in the matter. Being raised by a mentally ill parent is extremely difficult. Hopefully, their caretakers are able to shield them from that to some degree. I do believe he is trying to “steer them all to safe ground” but I also think he is motivated to keep this secret in order to save face and to keep their brand intact for financial reasons. I don’t understand, though, how she gets the work she does if she is that crazy.

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  28. morris maltenburg said on November 14th, 2014 at 1:01 am

    @Guest2:
    I still think this is all show, for media relevancy reasons. Many of these HW parents don’t even come close to what normal parents would be like 35-45 years ago. Today, stats were quoted that prove that compared to 1960 nearly all children born today in the black community, in excess of 72%, are born out of wedlock, as compared to +30% in 1960. In comparison to whites, in 1960 nearly 5% of white children were born out of wedlock, compared to today, nearly 35% of white children are born out of wedlock. The black community %s nearly doubled, vs the white community its nearly 7x more. In my mind adopting children doesn’t necessarily make things better.

    Yet, I would agree with you that AJ is a nut bar by at least public perceptions. I think the current tabz stories have shifted to Clowny and his new Al vs Pitiful and Jolly. This means JA has finally gotten her reprieve so to speak, and is attempting to utilize her PR Flacks, the HUVANO SCIENOS to develop a new media relevancy plans. I still don’t think there will be any JA/JTX union, yet time will tell. The money is what all of these Scieno lickers are about. Remember JA and Pitiful are both repped by the SCIENO HUVANOS, and nearly always have been. Its un-escapable. The most disturbing thing for me is that these individuals believe their respective final destinations are ultimately politics. By the way, I spoke to one of my HW insider friends, and Duke Wayne was never queer, and thats factual. It was all Bull Shit to assert he was QUEER.

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  29. WR said on November 14th, 2014 at 3:36 am

    Duke Wayne has been discussed here, regarding his trysts with young masculine men. He was outed by retired studio workers who were present on the set.

    Back in the day, comedians used to make fun of Wayne, and his super-masculine film persona. His walk was sort of the male version of Mae West’s exaggerated female walk. The comedians pointed that out, as well as the way he talked. But we moviegoers were pretty naïve, and so we laughed, and that’s all.

    I know one man who said that the Duke had a private home in the area he used to live, out of state. Wayne used to have males come to party. Hugh O’Brian was there, once. He, too, bought into the movie persona the Duke projected; so he was rather confused. But he saw what he saw.

    Wayne was a human being. That celluloid fantasy figure up there on the screen isn’t real.
    So I, for one, would believe the man who told me about his private home and I’d believe the retired studio workers over his rabid fans.
    Then too, there was the retired hotel worker over in the San Fernando Valley who reported about his trysts at his hotel.
    He wasn’t the only masculine actor who had men in bed. Marlon Brando, father of nine children, came out and said he had many male lovers. Some were some of the biggest names among actors, it was later revealed. No one judged himl, then; so, why be would we do so now that we heard about Wayne? He still is that icon up there on the screen, after all is said and done.
    And I always thought he was the caricature of a real man in many of his pictures that I saw. In real life, he was an alcoholic and beat up his wife. His Mexican wife used to claim, “He clobbered me!” according to just one report to a judge in court.

    I don’t believe he served a day in the military. But he did what he could, even if it was for his image.
    That’s also true of Brad Pitt, who’s campaigning for a Best Actor nomination for “Fury”. The main exception is that BP couldn’t pull off the masculine part as well as could John Wayne.

    All those sources convinced me that the Duke had more than one side to him. And his love scenes with women weren’t very convincing. Maybe one exception: Maureen O’Hara.

    JMO!

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  30. WR said on November 14th, 2014 at 3:51 am

    @WR:
    I apologize to anyone who is sick of reading about homosexuality in the industry, but I had to refute what I had read.

    I’ll leave it there. No more discussions from me about homosexuality regarding John Wayne, the actor, who was also a human being. Some of the biggest names on the planet, past and present have indulged in that behavior. There’s a bunch of threads which already covered that subject down at the bottom of the page.
    That should more than satisfy the curious. The moral of the stories, are: Accept Yourself for who you are. Don’t attack the world because you’re miserable being yourself and you feel guilty.

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  31. Guest2 said on November 14th, 2014 at 7:52 am

    @WR:
    Don’t apologize. Your posts are always worth reading. It’s interesting to hear the stories that others who were in the industry at the time have told.

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  32. WC Kitty said on November 14th, 2014 at 12:39 pm

    @WR:
    I find what you have to say interesting and I for one don’t care if a person is gay or not. Many women have suffered at the hands of the heterosexual male population and don’t go around branding all men as being the same. I can see the ease in generalization if that is all you have known, but I have hope and belief that there are decent men out there! I find your story about JW believable since a family member was known to be a friend of his down in Newport Beach. He too was an abusive person and an alcoholic. Was the family member gay? I hope not in only that he was married and I’ve already stated how I feel about that subject (committed relationships) no matter a person’s sexual preference.

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  33. rushdog said on November 14th, 2014 at 5:00 pm

    The picture above the typewriter and ?briefcase (or maybe that’s the lid to the typewriter) is Ernest Hemingway. The cover of Life Magazine dated July 14, 1961 and is a photo layout of his dangerous summer in Spain. The title is The Call of Danger.

    general subjects of the link:
    1st link – tell all book with graphic account of sexual exploits
    2nd link – delusional stalker w/mental illness/is a threat (to Rhianna)
    3rd link – AJ wedding gift to BP of EH’s typewriter/down payment applied then no purchase

    I might add that, as I posted in the 10/6 thread “Did the Triangle become a Square”?, in reference to the “who is the rat catcher in the strain” clue – The tv show The Strain first showed in the US on July 13, 2014 the day Hague resigned his position. Now we have the LIfe Magazine with The Call of Danger article dated July 14. Why did Hague supposedly resign? :(

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  34. Guest2 said on November 14th, 2014 at 10:33 pm

    @rushdog:
    What is the Call of Danger article? I googled and couldn’t find anything.

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  35. morris maltenburg said on November 15th, 2014 at 12:46 am

    @WR:
    Refute away, I know several Hollywood insiders that say your full of outright BS. In fact I had one read your posts here. They say your full of it because they knew Duke Wayne personally right up until his death. In fact they were very close personal friends, one person’s whole family knew Duke Wayne, and also knows Cluckston Eastdick, since they were young teenagers. They vehemently say your full of down town gutter dog brown. That you don’t know squat, and that your full of your self, and are no authority whatsoever, period.

    The problem with you WR is you actually THINK that you’re an authority. From the people that I know personally, I would have to agree. You’re another one with a FAGGOT agenda, and you have been attempting to lump everyone into this category to supplant your very skewed view. What my friends tell me is this. John Wayne’s birth name (first name was Marilynn,) a unisex first name, and because he walked funny, people supposed that he was queer, when in actual fact he was not. He played footbaqll for Notre Dame back in the day. This guy was anything but a FAGGOT. Wanna talk about FAGGOTS, talk about your buddy Singsongman.

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  36. morris maltenburg said on November 15th, 2014 at 1:02 am

    @rushdog:
    More than likely he resigned because of JIMMY Savile, and SIDNEY COOKE. When Hague was young there were many pictures of him standing next to Maggie Thatcher. Here is a hint. Photoshoop had not been invented as a software yet, that happened over a decade later. When you view the pictures you see Hague with an unusually large head relative proportionally to the rest of his body. I personally have seen many of these pictures. They appear very weird. Regardless, Hague was enshrined publicly on British National TV for questioning certain taxes in the UK. That was the link to thatcher. He was either a late teen/early 20 something when this happened. When you see Hague today, or pics of him, his head looks proportional to his body.

    Jimmy Savile, is widely known for trafficking in children for pedophiles. He was considered to be the goto person for wealthy Pedophiles. There are also many stories out there regarding not only murder, but cannibalism. Many HW elites go to the UK, and Thailand specifically for this. It is also believed that COOKE was involved as well. When this new documentary comes out regarding the wholesale exploitation of HW children, it will be an unbelievable blow to HW. The normalization of Pedophiles in HW is about to take a Hellaciously major hit. This isn’t about the average peccadilloes. This is about serious crime.

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  37. morris maltenburg said on November 15th, 2014 at 1:16 am

    I still don’t think AJ/BP are even slightly conservative, nor do I believe they are anything but cheap opportunists. I read something the other day that stated AJ was so smart she graduated highschool early. I want to know how that fits with the black electrical tape on her nipples, the dog collar and leash on her neck, and the pipe she was smoking full of smack. Yet she was some major brain trust whom finished HS early, I’m not buying it. She was wholesale fucking with the Heavy Zebra BOYS. HERE is another hint. If you look at the pics of the HEAVY ZEBRA BAND out of England, and get the date of the picture you will find that it was taken approximately 1972 when their first album came out. The problem with this is the two bottom pictures. One Grant King, and one John Collins. The other problem is they are not british per se because they are a blues band. Further they may have been confused with another GRANT KING WHO CAME UP IN HW. Who is also British. Its not a FAR stretch for two people to be born with the same names. I have posted many times about this. Yet no one here caught it. I know factually that JC was doing AJ so was GK. Thats who started her on SMACK.

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  38. morris maltenburg said on November 15th, 2014 at 1:28 am

    AJ being on the CFR is total BS. We do not need her, or her PITIFUL FUCKBAG. I for one am absolutely sick of HW BUNGHOLES trying to tell evreyone else how to live. Enough is enough.

    @WC Kitty:
    WC Kitty,
    I can appreciate your view because I actually believe that’s how you feel. Yet, I disagree with you. Many things are attributed to people all over this planet that end up being false. This is the problem with the TABZ, and the PAPZ. They are full of SHIT in many ways period.

    Recently Jessica Alba was on TV and found out through DNA that she has no Arabic/North African Black, She also found out she had no Chinese/Mongol/South East Asian in her either. What she did find out was she was between 13%-17% indigenous Native American/Hispaniola, and 83% Western European. She was shocked and amazed. It was 100% supported BY DNA! For years she stated publicly otherwise.

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  39. WR said on November 15th, 2014 at 3:17 am

    As I said, I’m not going to read posts from the man who refuses to look in the mirror. The one who’s scared of who he’s going to see if he looks too close.

    JMO!

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  40. WR said on November 15th, 2014 at 3:25 am

    JA gave an interview where she espouses forgiveness. She doesn’t deny that what Brangelina did was unconscionable. And they continue on their way oblivious to what they’ve done. Oblivious to karma.
    But, how good for JA to have taken the high road. Heard that so often in blogs.

    But we, who’ve been here for years, remember the constant attacks on JA, the victim of Brangelina’s adultery, by fanatics. People who owned their own sites made a lot of money off the victim, and off Brangelina. Mags such as PEOPLE paying them millions.

    But if the kids come out healthy and in good shape after all this, it would be mainly due to their nannies. We hope Shiloh hasn’t been damaged. There was a lot of discussion about that.

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  41. WR said on November 15th, 2014 at 3:39 am

    @WC Kitty:
    Thank you for that.

    And this is what I heard from a wise old man. It’s about forgiveness. As the above post mentions JA’’s stance, as reported yesterday. Here it is:

    Saying one is sorry, is only part of the process of forgiveness. There is reparation. It’s sort of like a man who made a dent in another person’s car. The damage is there. The man tells the victim, he’s so sorry. The victim says he forgives the offender. BUT THE DENT IS STILL THERE!
    One has to make reparation. Similar to making the dent go away. Reparation is Repentance.

    Now, when someone rants with hatred against strangers, we, the objects of the person’s hatred do not have to feel the least bit damaged, if we remember that what they think of us is none of our business. There’s a long list of things to remember, that we learned in college.

    I remember not that long ago, why the women here were taking the bait the self-hating poster, imo, was putting out there. I didn’t take it, but had to refute the denial I read. Now, I have done my part, and will not read any more of that person’s, imo, sick input.

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  42. Togi said on November 15th, 2014 at 4:53 am
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  43. Keane said on November 15th, 2014 at 3:28 pm

    @Togi:

    Well we have rendered Togi speechless! lol Come back and say something Togester! xxx

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  44. WC Kitty said on November 15th, 2014 at 3:40 pm

    @WR:
    She probably has come to the understanding that neither of them have a conscience. They will never feel guilt and that is just the way they are and they will never change. It’s hard to understand that a person you loved was never the person you thought they were. Once you discover and accept this, you can’t get far away fast enough. It may be a reason JC is distancing himself. They will latch on to anybody or anything that they believe will be of benefit to them.

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  45. WC Kitty said on November 15th, 2014 at 3:43 pm

    @WC Kitty:
    WR, I was actually replying to the previous post. As for the post I replied to, I agree with you about forgiveness.

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  46. WC Kitty said on November 15th, 2014 at 4:22 pm

    @morris maltenburg:
    True, there are a lot of false rumors out there. On the other hand, a lot of people who appear to be the nicest and most moral aren’t behind closed doors. That is why horrible people get away with horrible things.

    Just like you, I’ve never known JW, and the rumors could be false or they could be true. I don’t dismiss WR’s just because I don’t want them to be true or because you heard from sources I don’t know. The reason I lean towards his version isn’t because of the paps or tabs, but because I shared a roof with someone who did know him. The person hung around with likewise people and having first hand experience with alcoholics…they can be the nicest people and then do a 180 faster than you know what. As for the rest, IDK and I don’t care and naturally it’s not something he would have divulged.

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  47. Guest2 said on November 15th, 2014 at 5:01 pm

    @WR:
    I think her comments about forgiveness also had to do with her mother. From what I’ve read about her she sounds like a very toxic person. I think it was her ex husband (not Aniston) who said she has a way of burning bridges. And for the record, John Wayne’s real name was Marion, not Marilyn. According to Wiki he was born Marion Robert Morrison but also has the name Marion Mitchell Morrison. I didn’t bother to read why the two variations on his real name. I don’t really care but you would think that someone who was so close to him would at least get the first name right. Such BS we are forced to endure here.

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  48. Keane said on November 15th, 2014 at 5:14 pm

    All I have to say at this juncture is that I personally love faggots – they are delicious with mash and gravy. I honestly have no idea why they are so hated in the states!

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  49. Keane said on November 15th, 2014 at 5:57 pm

    @Keane:

    I meant to say with peas also – that is crucial!

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  50. WC Kitty said on November 15th, 2014 at 6:15 pm

    She really doesn’t look healthy.
    http://www.femalefirst.co.uk/board/viewtopic.php?f=40&t=651271

    Did anybody watch this awards show? Did JD really appear to be drunk or on something, or was he acting out a role as some suggest?

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  51. guest said on November 15th, 2014 at 8:45 pm

    Yes. I only saw part of the show but he was high as a kite. He almost fell over the microphone. He slurred. And he seemed to forget his “friend” that was being honored name. I think he was also supposed to introduce mike Myers. Because he didn’t – the other guy did. It was awkward and sad to watch. I didnt see jolie present. But based on pics she looked high as well. And sickly. Everyone seemed wasted except benedict c. The portion of the show I saw was bad. I doubt it will happen again next year.

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  52. Togi said on November 15th, 2014 at 11:28 pm

    What the heck!!!!! I had written a message for WR. LOL Perhaps I should not have tried to post while having a glass of wine. :D
    @Keane:

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  53. Togi said on November 15th, 2014 at 11:29 pm

    I don’t get it either, Keane. Obviously, sexual preference is not something that concerns ALL Americans. There are an awful lot of middle-of-the-road people (and Christians to boot) that just don’t CARE about someone’s sexual preference. Truly. I do not get it.@Keane:

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  54. WR said on November 16th, 2014 at 12:52 am

    @Togi:
    It’s the thought that counts, eh? I envy those who can drink wine. I’ve become very allergic to a lot of drinks, and alcoholic drinks are at the top of the list. There’s a loophole, so to speak. There’s non-alcoholic wine, and if worse comes to worse, as they say, then dark grape juice is a good substitute.

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  55. WR said on November 16th, 2014 at 1:02 am

    Had a long visit with “R”, the musician, who knows so many personally. We had a riotous time telling inside jokes. I made him laugh so hard, he had tears in his eyes. Wicked humour!

    Have to tell this one. I was an extra in a Sandra Bullock film when she was a newcomer. I stood next to the English actor, who had a meaty part in the film. As we waited for the call to action, he was swearing a blue streak, meant for only I to hear. I started to laugh, and I suppressed a remark that was on the tip of my tongue. It was, “And I was expecting, ‘Dash My Wig and Bees!’” Kept my lips zipped, however. Anyway, when the director called, ACTION!, a really heavy set AA woman walked right in front of me, as we started to walk toward the camera.
    It was just a lark, however. My bud and I, who happens to be French, did it for fun!

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  56. WR said on November 16th, 2014 at 1:11 am

    @WC Kitty:
    It scared me! I don’t care for her, but I hope she recovers.

    Now that it’s the awards season, we’ll be expecting her to appear at numerous functions. She’s got her eyes on a Best Director nom. Don’t know, though. If they had read what she allegedly had to say about how easy it is to direct a film, will the Directors Branch of about 70 plus veteran members embrace her product?

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  57. WR said on November 16th, 2014 at 1:16 am

    To all;
    If you’re a fan of Fellini, and Italian films, I’d highly recommend “I Vitteloni”, which will be on TCM tomorrow; (11 p.m. PST & 9 p.m. ET). I will tape it for my collection. Saw it before, and was impressed. It’s the tale of a poor family, and how they exist. One son is “different” than the rest: i.e. he has an artistic bent.

    Tomorrow, then.

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  58. Keane said on November 16th, 2014 at 7:38 am

    @WR:

    I really don’t think Angie will ever get a gong – she has tried so hard in the past and never won anything. Why? Well, the answer is obvious really. At awards ceremonies where the winners are chosen by a group of your peers, it goes without saying that you have to be a popular to get a prize. Angie, sadly is not. That’s why I’m pretty sure she will never get the prizes that she seeks.

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  59. Keane said on November 16th, 2014 at 7:39 am

    BTW – it is Sunday and I will be looking forward to having faggots for dinner this evening. They really are delicious and there is no better way to spend a Sunday evening than in their company!

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  60. Guest2 said on November 16th, 2014 at 1:03 pm

    @WR:
    Now I’ll have to search all of Sandra’s early movies to see which has an English actor so I can see who is standing next to him and wonder if that is WR! Sounds like a fun thing to do.

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  61. WR said on November 16th, 2014 at 5:28 pm

    @Guest2:
    It wasn’t in the film. The huge AA woman ruined the take. C’est la vie!

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  62. siska said on November 16th, 2014 at 6:14 pm

    Love seen Jen news n new photo..she has fun time doing press con with all the boys..if only she is more relax like that when doing it by herself.

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  63. Guest2 said on November 16th, 2014 at 6:54 pm

    @WR:
    Darn that AA woman, lol.

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  64. Guest2 said on November 16th, 2014 at 6:56 pm

    @siska:
    Great pics/clothes. I hope Cake gets released in a good number of theaters. I’d like to see the movie.

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  65. WC Kitty said on November 16th, 2014 at 11:53 pm

    Oh, wow!!! :shock:
    http://www.femalefirst.co.uk/board/viewtopic.php?f=40&t=651783

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  66. Siska said on November 17th, 2014 at 1:04 am

    Me too..@Guest2:
    Do you have link of ff? Thanks for it
    She went to NYC already with justin..I think they might have a short holiday to Mexico soon.

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  67. LG said on November 17th, 2014 at 5:50 am

    There is nothing more “Hot” than I other Lurkers analysing the conversation “worldwide” over the weekend

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  68. LG said on November 17th, 2014 at 6:02 am

    Correction…There is nothing more “Hot” than I “AND” other lurkers analysing the conversation “worldwide”..over the weekend

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  69. LG said on November 17th, 2014 at 6:39 am

    Correction ,Correction,,,there is nothing more “Hot” than I and other lurkers analysing the conversation over the weekend “worldwide” about how Brangelina manage to utterly “fake” to the entire world that they are” Good Parents”……….

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  70. LG said on November 17th, 2014 at 7:16 am

    Angelina uses her incredibly fake “humanitarism” to sanitise her public persona…What an horrendous use of “POWER”….shame on you Angelina!!!!…..Shame , Shame, Shame……Are you and Brad’s penis more important to you than being an evolved good person. A really, really, good person…….Being a good person is too hard for you, let’s face it …For starters, spelling the word “Good” is too hard for you. I feel so sorry for Brad. Would having my penis sucked daily help me get through my “wife’s craziness???

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  71. LG said on November 17th, 2014 at 7:47 am

    If Brad and Angelina do not like the comments on this site then they should make time for their children which is real and not fake, that is, retire from film making “all together”….Oh No, retire from film making and not be a STAR……. YOU have to be “selfless Brangelina, ,Dear God… “I have to be selfless!”….Yes Brangelina , people who are are not selfless have to go through so much more in a lifetime than an evolved soul…..”….erh, what’s an EVOLVED SOUL??? ????Why are you laughing at me???

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  72. joanne said on November 17th, 2014 at 5:40 pm

    Looks like they finally found a way to pad her most holie jolie to make her look like she has a bod. now they need to do something about the face, she is starting to look like a giant preying mantis.

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  73. WR said on November 17th, 2014 at 11:45 pm

    It had its merits. I now see the movies, and have fun seeing the extras jockeying for position. It’s very entertaining to me, and many a weak movie is rescued by these scene-gluttons. And some of these go way, way back.

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  74. morris maltenburg said on November 18th, 2014 at 3:14 pm

    @joanne:
    Joanne,
    I have an answer for you regarding many of your questions regarding why things are so screwed up. Especially in consideration of the things we’ve discussed. This will comjpletely illuminate you most especially considering the role of Hollywood.

    It all started off in 1920 with an organization in Britain called RIIA, which is the “Royal Institute of International Affairs.” The RIIA subsequently formed the “Tavistock Institute for Human Relations,” in 1922, in the United States. To give you further context, RIAA was formed approximately 2.5-3.5 years after the end of WWI.

    “The Tavistock Institute for Human Relations” was an outgrowth of RIAA, and was formed at Oxford University. “The Tavistock Institute for Human Relations”became the core organization of Britain’s Psychological Warfare Bureau. The Institute was the architect of the Aquarian Conspiracy. The Aquarian conspiracy was a precursor to WWII, and the Global Intelligence Services.

    This was formulated in Britain, and designed to weaken nation states with the goal of British Societal dominance, by establishing a global brainwashing and opinion forming network to encourage Drug Addiction, Free Sex, widespread Homosexuality, Lesbianism, and destroying family units, ultimately causing societal breakdown and chaos.

    It has been very successfully implemented in the United States since the end of WWII. The major U.S. based institutions involved are Stanford Research International (outside of Stanford University, just down the street from my house,) Rand Resources and Development (Rand Corporation,) the Aspen Institute, The Hudson Institute, and the Brookings Institute. The current Tavistock Institute runs over 30 US based institutions.

    During WWII, the US Governments first Intelligence unit was entitled OSP. This was the Office of Special Projects. It was the precursor to the OSS (Office of Strategic Services,) and was the precursor to the CIA (Central Intelligence Agency,) and implemented Operation Paperclip, Operation Mockingbird, Operation Monarch, and the operations of MK Ultra. All of this is outright historical fact, widely written about for over 50 years. This is all 100% historical fact.

    How this relates to Hollywood is this. The CIA actually has a real office that works with Hollywood. It is called the “ENTERTAINMENT LIAISON OFFICE of the CIA.” It has been around for literally decades. It also gives complete definition to Trauma Based mind control, the dumbing down of our society, the ongoing existing perversions, debasement, and destruction of our society. Hollywood has completely embraced Scientology, and its mindless atheist tenants, and promulgation of deceptive thinking.

    For those of you that either like or dislike AJ jooly Dufus. I read some information this morning that would have you believe that AJ attended New York University, among other institutions. I call BS on this.

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  75. Keane said on November 18th, 2014 at 3:35 pm

    TEAM FAGGOT!

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  76. Guest2 said on November 18th, 2014 at 3:53 pm

    @joanne:
    She’s looked like a praying mantis since she hooked up with pitt. It’s kind of an insult to praying mantises though. They’re nice insects.

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  77. Guest2 said on November 18th, 2014 at 3:54 pm

    @Keane:
    I heard you had them for dinner…..

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  78. Keane said on November 18th, 2014 at 5:59 pm

    @Guest2:

    I had them for dinner and afterwards we smoked a cigar together and sketched out a plan to take over the world – it’s what all good faggots do!

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  79. Togi said on November 18th, 2014 at 9:21 pm

    I also hear they are TASTY!!!!! At least that’s what my friends claim to be! And BTW … this world NEEDS to be taken over by people with a brain.@Keane:

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  80. morris maltenburg said on November 19th, 2014 at 1:06 am

    @Guest2:
    They are extraordinary creatures, and in some regions of the country they are a protected species that regulate insects in the wild.

    @Togi:
    Cats always eat damn near anything. My cat would love to eat spiders. It would really gross me out. He absolutely loved it though.

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  81. morris maltenburg said on November 19th, 2014 at 1:19 am

    @morris maltenburg:
    All of this should place in a quantifiable Frame of Reference, Proper Context, enabling Proper Conclusion, and ultimately Correct and Proper Perspective. Today, nearly everyone has been concerned for the ongoing basis of surveillance by government agencies. Most especially because of Snowden and his NSA disclosures. Based upon what I have written today, and for those of you concerned about the current state of affairs in the US, my disclosure herein is a clarion call to the debacle that all of us face.

    Disinformation has been the primary tool of the government since the assassination of JFK. In the words of former Cia Director William Colby I am sure that Keane will find great comfort.

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  82. morris maltenburg said on November 19th, 2014 at 1:39 am

    William Colby…. The CIA owns everyone of any significance in the major media. We’ll know that our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false (1981.) Deception is a state of mind and the mind of the state.

    In 1975, the CIA admitted that they use the mainstream media to manipulate the thoughts and ideas of American Citizens in the USA. This has obviously not changed as of today. The mainstream media is nothing but scripted news to fit whatever agenda needs to be created in order to distract the population from truth.

    War is Peace. Freedom is Slavery. Ignorance is Strength.

    So Keane… I hope you take great comfort in your very demented views… You’re completely part of this… and always have been…

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  83. Keane said on November 19th, 2014 at 8:06 am

    @morris maltenburg:

    Woo hoo – I am taking over the world – at last POWER IS MINE!!!!! BROUHAHAHAHHAHAHA!!!!

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  84. Keane said on November 19th, 2014 at 8:11 am

    @morris maltenburg:

    BTW love the 1984 reference – it’s one of my all time favourite novels! I always thought that I would end up taking over the world in a Big Brother style and here I am doing just that – hurrah! Thanks Morris Maltenburg for making my dreams come true!

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  85. Keane said on November 19th, 2014 at 8:12 am

    @Togi:

    Don’t worry we’re going to take over alright – we honestly have nothing better to do with our time! LOL

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  86. Guest2 said on November 19th, 2014 at 8:41 am

    Speaking of the CIA, does anyone watch Homeland? Fantastic show, it’s about Pakistan, the ISI and the taliban this season. Claire Danes’ acting is a bit annoying but overall a really character.

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  87. Guest2 said on November 19th, 2014 at 8:42 am

    @Guest2:
    good character

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  88. joanne said on November 19th, 2014 at 2:06 pm

    @morris maltenburg:
    so they are still pissed off that some of their people took off for america. as dumbed down as i am i knew hollyweird was a messy web and should have realized the cia was involved. those fuckers are everywhere. they used to have intelligent, beautiful and talents actors to dumb us down, what happened? if jolie went to college then she is a better actress than i thought since she talks like a superior asshole and looks like a skid row junkie wearing fancy clothes. eyes are still decent so maybe muslim wear would be fitting for her. it will hide the bones and show off her only good asset. so like the fish in the plastic bags at the end of nemo. “Now what?”.

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  89. joanne said on November 19th, 2014 at 2:07 pm

    @Guest2:
    you are right, it is an insult to praying mantis. I wanted to say the bug from men in black but was trying to be nice.

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  90. Keane said on November 20th, 2014 at 10:39 am

    I don’t know about you but there is a distinct lack of taking over the world going on in my house today. Where are all these CIA contacts when you need them that’s what I would like to know and do you think they would mind coming over to help me fix my plumbing? You would have thought it would not be a lot to ask for one as powerful as I. *harrumph*

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  91. Guest2 said on November 20th, 2014 at 11:44 am

    @Keane:
    I think angie got them to fix her plumbing. But maybe she’s not really gay, she’ll do anyone and anything if it serves her purpose. Sorry to be so crass but the audacity of this woman just never, ever ceases to amaze me. Though that Japanese musician in her war movie does look like the spitting image of her old love, Jenny Shimizu.

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  92. Guest2 said on November 20th, 2014 at 11:52 am

    And she’s a liar, too (shocking news, I know). She says she’s never been comfortable in front of the camera and yet her mug is front and center in every magazine article, photo shoot and red carpet for this movie as if she were the star. I sort of hope she gets an oscar for directing and outrages all the real directors whose work has truly been oscar worthy. I wonder how much involvement the Coen brothers had in that aspect of this movie.

    http://www.celebitchy.com/398443/angelina_jolie_covers_dujour_ive_never_loved_being_in_front_of_the_camera/

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  93. Keane said on November 20th, 2014 at 1:04 pm

    @Guest2:

    There was a really funny photo of her in TDM watching the rushes of her film with a notebook and pen laid out in front of her to make it look like she was doing something. I think Angie’s notebook and pen should get an Oscar nom this year for best supporting actor in the performance that is her supposed directing career. They should also get a nod for their work supporting Angelina throughout all those humanitarian photo pops. I honestly think Angelina’s notebook and pen stand a better chance of winning an Oscar this year than she ever will – CIA contacts or not!

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  94. Guest2 said on November 20th, 2014 at 2:33 pm

    @Keane:
    :lol: It’s probably the same notebook and pen she’s used for years so, yes, an oscar nom is called for.

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  95. Guest2 said on November 20th, 2014 at 2:35 pm

    @Guest2:
    Keane, you already said that, sorry. At work and rushing.

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  96. Guest2 said on November 20th, 2014 at 2:38 pm

    So what about these allegations against Bill Cosby? I’ve never liked him, never thought he was remotely funny, but I have to say this does surprise me that he could do this to so many women and get away with it for so long. The stories must have some truth to them for Queen Latifah to cancel her interview with him. Back to work now, see y’all later.

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  97. Keane said on November 20th, 2014 at 4:09 pm

    @Guest2:

    Yes – they’re all crawling out of the woodwork at the moment aren’t they? In the UK several children’s TV presenters and other “national treasure” types have been tried or arrested for child abuse and sexual assault on adults already so it doesn’t come as a great shock to me. The story also goes much deeper than that and reaches throughout the whole British establishment (this is all still to come out though) so the involvement of those tv types is really not the focus any more. If the US is anything like the way the UK has turned out to be, i think you will find that the likes of Cosby like the likes of Saville and Harris over here, are merely the tip of the iceberg. It’s disturbing stuff.

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  98. Togi said on November 20th, 2014 at 4:35 pm

    I am really bummed about Bill Cosby. As a kid, I grew up laying on the living room floor with the rest of my chaotic family, listening albums and laughing our fool heads off. To Russell My Brother Whom I Slept With was our all-time favorite. I loved that guy soooooooo much!!!! Really sad. Yes, it saddens me that he would do this to women. Make them vulnerable and then assault them. So freaking creepy and cruel I just want to SLAP HIM SILLY. I may catch flack about saying this because it’s oh-so-not-okay for white people to talk about this kind of thing. But as far as MY mind sees it, there is also a racial domination common denominator to his assaults, which sickens me as well. If you can’t dominate the man, then dominate his woman. Caveman mentality at its best (or worse). @Guest2:

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  99. Togi said on November 20th, 2014 at 4:40 pm

    Pretty gross, isn’t it? I suppose one would need to look at the psychologic profiles of those who want to be a part of the Hollywood scene. I’m not a psychologist so I won’t even PRETEND to do that here! I liken the psycho Hollywood-type personality to the suicide rate amongst dentists. I don’t believe it is the dental profession, per se, that drives folks to suicide. It’s more likely the type of person drawn to dentistry in the first place. Truly, I am not babbling nonsensical stuff. Just voicing an opinion. lol

    As far as AJ saying she never felt comfortable in front of the camera? BS. TOTAL B.S. She is so full of it her eyes are turning BROWN! (I have brown eyes, so PLEASE!!! No one feel insulted, okay???) :) I don’t even know why she SAYS stupid things like this! What is the point? Honestly, she and BP both say the dumbest things!
    @Keane:

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  100. Togi said on November 20th, 2014 at 4:46 pm

    Okay. You made me laugh out loud! :) Cats are “creative” eaters, to say the least. What you THINK they might like (yummy chicken, fish, beef, moose, or the like), they try to bury! What you THINK is disgusting (flies, spiders, crickets, mouse heads), they LOVE. I learned long ago, NEVER TRY TO FIGURE OUT THE MIND OF A CAT! That’s why I have always gotten on with them so well. lol. DOGS, on the other hand (I have MANY of those as well), really DO eat anything and everything. Delicious, disgusting or downright inedible, they CHOW IT DOWN. :) @morris maltenburg:

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  101. Guest2 said on November 20th, 2014 at 6:30 pm

    @Keane:
    They are all disgusting predators but jimmy saville and his ilk are the lowest because they prey on the truly innocent and helpless. I cannot fathom the extent to which child exploitation exists in this world. It’s truly frightening.

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  102. morris maltenburg said on November 20th, 2014 at 7:45 pm

    @Togi:
    Boy are you correct about that. My cat would go after fied mice, or rats. I would come back later, the only thing I would find were the little feet. He would eat everything but the feet. It was really weird. He would eat the whole thing, except the little feet. Strange… I also agree with you. No one could ever figure out the mind of a Cat. I always loved my cat. He was a little fighter. He would fight all kinds of dogs, really big rats from the docks, and even raccoons. He was down right nutz. Once this raccoon had decided he was going to have kitty soufflé for dinner. My Cat was having none of it

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  103. morris maltenburg said on November 20th, 2014 at 7:50 pm

    In other news….
    http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2014/11/terrence_bean_indicted_a_lane.html

    Detectives from the Portland police Sex Crimes Unit arrested Portland developer Terrence Patrick Bean on Wednesday on a Lane County indictment stemming from alleged sex abuse involving a teenage boy in 2013.

    Bean, 66, a prominent gay rights activist and major Democratic Party fundraiser, was arrested at his home in Southwest Portland and booked into the Multnomah County Detention Center at 10:12 a.m.

    The indictment charges Bean with two counts of third-degree sodomy, a felony, and one count of third-degree sex abuse, a misdemeanor, police said.

    Bean, who bailed out of jail by late Wednesday afternoon, will be arraigned on the indictment in Lane County.

    Detectives in Portland’s Sex Crime Unit are the lead investigators in the case and have been working closely with the Clackamas County and Lane County district attorneys’ offices.

    The alleged incident involved a sexual encounter in Eugene with a 15-year-old boy.

    Another person alleged to have been involved in that encounter is also expected to face arrest as part of the indictment.

    “The investigation began in Portland, but the criminal episode occurred in Lane County,” said police spokesman Sgt. Pete Simpson.

    Lane County Chief Deputy District Attorney Patricia Perlow declined to release any information about the case or the indictment.

    Bean has been one of the state’s biggest Democratic donors and an influential figure in gay rights circles in the state. He helped found two major national political groups, the Human Rights Campaign and the Gay and Lesbian Victory Fund, and has been a major contributor for several Democratic presidential candidates, including Barack Obama. He’s also a close friend of former Gov. Barbara Roberts.

    Bean’s lawyer, Kristen Winemiller, said in a statement that Bean has cooperated with the investigation, adding that it’s her client who was the “victim of an extortion ring” by several men.

    Winemiller released this statement: “Terry Bean is a highly respected community leader who has devoted his life to bettering our community. Over the course of several months in 2013-2014 Terry was the victim of an extortion ring led by several men known to law enforcement. This current arrest is connected to the ongoing investigation of that case in which Mr. Bean has fully cooperated. No allegations against Terry Bean should be taken at face value. We look forward to the opportunity to clear his name.”

    The Willamette Week did a cover story in June on Bean about a “love affair gone wrong,” and allegations that he had videotaped his encounters with former boyfriends.

    Bean’s Flickr account shows him talking with Obama at several events, posing with first lady Michelle Obama and numerous other political figures, including former President Bill Clinton. A blog post from his sister, Sue Surdam Bean, detailed her brother’s work on a July 24, 2012 Obama fundraiser in Portland. She included three photos of Terry Bean’s ride on Air Force One with Obama to a subsequent event in Seattle.

    At 4:22 p.m., Bean bailed out of the downtown Portland jail, posting 10 percent, or $5,000 of his $50,000 bail, according to jail records.

    –Maxine Bernstein

    –Jeff Mapes

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  104. morris maltenburg said on November 20th, 2014 at 7:53 pm

    More news……

    WASHINGTON — Oklahoma Sen. Tom Coburn warns there could be not only a political firestorm but acts of civil disobedience and even violence in reaction to President Obama’s executive order on immigration Thursday.

    “The country’s going to go nuts, because they’re going to see it as a move outside the authority of the president, and it’s going to be a very serious situation,” Coburn said on Capital Download. “You’re going to see — hopefully not — but you could see instances of anarchy. … You could see violence.”

    Coburn, 66, is a conservative Republican but one who has a personal relationship with Obama. They entered the Senate in the same class, elected in 2004, and the new senators from opposite ends of the political spectrum and their spouses immediately hit it off at an orientation dinner. Last year, the president wrote a tribute in Time magazine to Coburn as “someone who speaks his mind (and) sticks to his principles.”

    “I really like the guy,” Coburn, 66, told USA TODAY’s weekly video newsmaker series Wednesday. “I thought he’s neat, and I think Michelle’s a neat lady.”

    USATODAY

    Capital Download – Conversations with Washington’s biggest newsmakers

    That history gives Coburn’s stark assessment a special sting. On immigration, he accuses Obama of acting like “an autocratic leader that’s going to disregard what the Constitution says and make law anyway.” He says changes in immigration policy require passage by Congress, not just the president’s signature — a charge the White House disputes and on which legal experts disagree.

    “Instead of having the rule of law handling in our country today, now we’re starting to have the rule of rulers, and that’s the total antithesis of what this country was founded on,” Coburn says. “Here’s how people think: Well, if the law doesn’t apply to the president … then why should it apply to me?”

    USA TODAY

    Obama to announce immigration plan Thursday

    Coburn, who also served three terms in the House of Representatives, is retiring two years before his second Senate term is up as he battles a recurrence of cancer. He has been a leading deficit hawk, nicknamed “Dr. No” for his steadfast opposition to spending and his blunt-spoken manner.

    Though he says both parties deserve some of the blame for Washington’s dysfunction, he argues that the president has the ability to chart a different path. Solid Republican control of Congress in the wake of this month’s midterm elections could make it easier to deal with an issue such as the structural problems associated with the deficit. Making the compromises necessary for that “requires divided government,” he says.

    “If I were in his office, I’d say, if you want to have a successful second term, dig down, swallow your pride, get what you can get, compromise on everything you can for the best interests of the country,” he says. “Bring us back together.”

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  105. morris maltenburg said on November 20th, 2014 at 7:58 pm

    The previous article was written and published in the USA TODAY newspaper… Proper attribution

    http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/msnbcs-ed-schultz-says-obama-should-back-off-immigration-executive-order/article/2556452

    There’s at least one Obama supporter in the media who doesn’t think the president should address immigration policy unilaterally: MSNBC host Ed Schultz.

    Schultz said on Twitter Wednesday that Obama should instead work with congressional Republicans to get the job done, though not for the sake of bipartisanship.

    “[President Obama] should back off on immigration reform, give the Republicans a deadline and use the [State of the Union address] to call ‘em out,” Schultz said. “[GOP] won’t deliver.”

    That’s a challenge Republicans may be willing to take if it meant stopping Obama from issuing an executive order that will delay the deportation of an estimated 5 million illegal immigrants.

    “If [Obama] delivers a deadline, he gets the attention of the country and puts the leadership responsibility on the [Republicans],” Schultz said, adding again that he didn’t expect the GOP to actually pass any reform.

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  106. morris maltenburg said on November 20th, 2014 at 8:02 pm

    http://politicalwire.com/2014/11/20/gop-lawmaker-sees-jail-time-for-obama/

    GOP Lawmaker Sees Possible Jail Time for Obama
    November 20, 2014By Taegan Goddard71 Comments

    Rep. Mo Brooks (R-AL) told Slate that with his forthcoming executive actions on immigration President Obama may break a federal statute “making it a felony to aid, abet, or entice a foreigner to illegally enter the U.S.”

    Said Brooks: “At some point, you have to evaluate whether the president’s conduct aids or abets, encourages, or entices foreigners to unlawfully cross into the United States of America. That has a five-year in-jail penalty associated with it.”

    But Obama might not be impeached: “If the president is simply not obeying a statute that is noncriminal in nature, that does not necessarily rise to a high crime or a misdemeanor. I don’t know what he’s going to do yet. Until we see what he’s going to do, it is difficult to say whether he is violating a civil statute or violating a criminal statute.”
    Five years seems on the light side for a dictator king.

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  107. LG said on November 20th, 2014 at 8:41 pm

    @Keane:
    I have also noticed the appearance of the notebook and pen as she appears to be listening intently to a traumatised individual. Strangely the page is always clean as if everytime she “accidently” gets photograghed she is starting a new page.

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  108. joanne said on November 20th, 2014 at 10:03 pm

    @morris maltenburg:
    that judge from PA is getting away with it. :(

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  109. joanne said on November 20th, 2014 at 10:08 pm

    @morris maltenburg:
    colburn is an ass and any other american who will fight another american, we should be fighting our lawmakers. dumbing down worked. :(

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  110. morris maltenburg said on November 21st, 2014 at 1:50 am

    @joanne:
    Joanne,
    Very well said indeed. I have a hard time believing it, and here is why. As a young child, she was in a major sci fi movie. She had substantial income from that one movie alone. Its played all over the place many times.

    Between her HW childhood acting, and all the BS she was doing as a 12, 13, 14 year old kid I have a hard time believing it. I don’t remember her going to H.S., and she was getting her lil puss drilled by the Heavy Zebra Boys, GK & JC, in between smoking smack, topless with electrical tape on her nipples, wearing a dog collar and leash. Her going to H.S. like normal kids I just don’t believe. She was screwing off at an early age, not graduating early. If she was such a brain trust WTF happened to her? All of the stories about her dad, I just don’t believe. I knew her dad personally, and he may be conservative politically, but from my personal experience of him, he was a very decent person.

    Here is my problem, most especially because I am the first born male bastard child of an Retired US Air Force LT. General (3 Star 3 Stripper,) and the adopted child of an Career US Navy Nuclear Submarine Officer. When I was a kid, things were way different, some very excellent, some not so excellent. As a segue to this, tomorrow Fox News is going to air a documentary (docudrama) entitled “I killed Kennedy” as in the actual admitted shooter whom languishes in prison to this day. Its 51 years since the assassination, a day that permanently changed America. Under Reagan, Colby was fired from the CIA, after making his statements about disinformation. Things have never been the same since that day. Many people believe now that Zapruder was somehow involved, for all of the obvious reasons. Nearly everyone is dead that was around then, with the exceptions of a few like Donnie Darkheart, and George Black Devil Head, and a few others. The truth is starting to seep out.

    There is one other thing about AJ. When viewing that pic of her topless, wearing the collar and leash, smoking smack, her boobs were not big whatsoever even slightly. I understand that women grow as they mature. Yet she now has big boobs, or did when she was a bit younger.

    For all of you reading this post, I want you to remember body doubles, (ie the look a like in Eastern Europe that was thought to be AJ,) yet was not, whom was arrested for raping a taxi driver at knife point. When you think of the triangle, and JA, the same completely applies to her as well.

    Now that you are all very clear how the Clandestine Services have been involved with HW dating back to WWII, hopefully you are getting a very glaring picture of how we have been compromised as a country. This is not paranoia!!! This is historical fact. Things never really appear how they are.

    The Jimmy Savile, Sidney Cooke(s) of the world have been plying their debauchery for decades. They are not alone, nor are they anomalies. This is what is identified as Trauma Based Mind Control, and was refined and perfected very carefully under the NAZI(S). Rape, and gang rape, were part of the methods employed by the NAZI SS. There were many many Homosexuals in the ranks of the NAZI(S).

    This “DOES NOT” mean that all Queers are like the NAZI(S), yet there were historically many NAZI(S) that were in fact QUEER. They were murdering other QUEERS, both men and women, and anyone that did not agree with the NAZI societal view.

    Operation Paper Clip is actual historical fact. Its not a theory. Whether your Straight or Queer is not the question posed. The question is what do you want for your life? And by extension, for your families, your children, your nieces, nephews, sisters, brothers, cousins, Grandparents, Great Grandparents, or just your neighbors, or the children around you? In my view, WWII never really ended. The systematic over throw of the world continues to this very minute. There are many that seek a one world government, and seek a one and only, singular, world wide religion. That’s not racism, bigotry, sexism, or hatred, it is an ongoing chain of events. Its not alarmism either. Its about recognizing what is transpiring around you.

    Joanne, your are not stupid, your life isn’t over, and you are a good person. I know because of all of our conversations. You’re a very decent caring person.

    For the rest of you. My many months of posting may have in fact un-nerved you. I hope you now understand why. It was to make you think. Its was to open your eyes to what you already knew was there. It was a reminder about fundamental truth. Hopefully, it will be perceived in its proper frame of reference, placed in proper context, correct conclusions will be realized, and a new more complete perspective, however unique to each person, will be derived.

    I hope all of you have a very happy Holidays over the next month and one half.

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  111. Keane said on November 21st, 2014 at 8:07 am

    @LG:

    So true! Now that you have highlighted this, what’s the betting the next time she is pictured with it, it will be opened somewhere in the middle of the book and have some artfully arranged notes written in it on the first few pages, to make it look like AJ actually uses it. James will be writing the notes in preparation as we speak – trust!

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  112. Guest2 said on November 21st, 2014 at 11:14 am

    More accusations against Cosby. This time the woman says she stayed with him after the rape. This is why he got away with it for so long. Instead of pressing charges to prevent it from happening to other women, they took payoffs to stay quiet. They were victimized by the man and then allowed him to get away with it.

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  113. joanne said on November 21st, 2014 at 2:08 pm

    @morris maltenburg:
    enjoy your holiday too.

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  114. joanne said on November 21st, 2014 at 5:22 pm

    @Guest2:
    I hope more and more like him get outed,

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  115. Keane said on November 21st, 2014 at 6:39 pm

    Doing the wild child routine:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dMks8Gzd-y8

    Whatever sells hey Angie?

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  116. Guest2 said on November 22nd, 2014 at 8:06 am

    @Keane:
    I liked the crazy wild child routine better than the phony earth mother, saviour of humanity, maker if important films routine. At least back then she was somewhat authentic. Now she’s just so smug and full of her own self-importance. She really was playing herself in that movie.

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  117. Keane said on November 22nd, 2014 at 8:10 am

    @Guest2:

    Yes she was definitely a lot more likeable in that incarnation I have to say. Her next phase is definitely the man-stealer phase: Olivier Martinez, Ethan Hawke, Brad et al. Then on to the saint phase. You can see why her people thought her image needed such a serious rebrand huh?

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  118. morris maltenburg said on November 23rd, 2014 at 10:53 pm

    In the news….

    But a very heated author and professor Michael Eric Dyson said Giuliani was drawing a “false equivalency,” saying that most blacks who kill other blacks go to jail and they are not sworn by the state to uphold the law.

    Giuliani said 70 percent to 75 percent of crime in New York City takes place in predominantly black areas, and that’s why there is a large police presence in those places.

    “The white police officers wouldn’t be there if you weren’t killing each other,” Giuliani said.

    The debate was sparked by discussion of the Michael Brown shooting in Ferguson, Missouri in August. The unarmed 18-year-old was killed by white police officer Darren Wilson, sparking weeks of protests, some of which turned violent.

    Giuliani says people pushing for an indictment from the grand jury probing the Michael Brown killing in Ferguson, Missouri are perverting the criminal justice system.

    “This grand jury is under incredible pressure … to indict. I feel sorry for these people because they know if they walk out of that grand jury room and have not indicted they may have created a massive riot in their city and maybe throughout the United States,” Giuliani said.

    “To me, that kind of pressure is completely inconsistent with the American criminal justice system. And the people who are putting on that pressure should be ashamed of themselves,” the former mayor said.

    Fear of more unrest has led Missouri Gov. Jay Nixon to declare a state-of-emergency pre-emptively.

    Nixon, a Democrat, has faced criticism for that move, but Giuliani said he understood since he found himself in similar situations as mayor of America’s largest city.

    “I would have had a state of emergency, but I would have kept it quiet,” Giuliani said. He said he would have had police on alert and placed them where they wouldn’t be seen by the public so they would be ready at a moment’s notice to stop any kind of violence.

    But, he added, Nixon was in a no-win situation. “Had he not declared a state of emergency, he’d probably get criticized for not doing it,” Giuliani said.

    The ex-mayor said he is concerned that no one is explaining to the public that grand juries are kept secret to protect innocent people since that system has a lower burden of proof than court.

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    @Guest2:
    Yeah… I rather doubt he is innocent. That many women with near similar story’s wouldn’t be possible.

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  119. joanne said on November 23rd, 2014 at 11:51 pm

    @morris maltenburg:
    The area were they were killing each other is probably bleak and poor. instead of white cops killing unarmed children they should help show them how to escape the despair of their neighborhoods. That cop should be badge less due to the poor dead kid laid in the street for 4 hours. We all bleed red and die. No race or god is superior. How about the cop who killed a 12 year old with a bb gun and missed a mass murder close by. We are under martial law already? why any underpaid cop who would turn his back on the people he vowed to protect turn against them and listen to an over privileged wealth stuff shirt governor?
    No, Obamacare should be improved.

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  120. Guest2 said on November 24th, 2014 at 8:39 am

    @Keane:
    I guess after the brother kissing at the Oscars and groping Billy Bob on the red carpet were the last straws and they had to do something to keep her career from tanking. I read somewhere that she’s shopping for a house in London. You’ll have to keep us informed of your new neighbor’s activities.

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  121. Guest2 said on November 24th, 2014 at 8:51 am

    Oh dear, a brangelina lovers’ quarrel and it’s all captured on video on a balcony. How convenient.

    http://www.womansday.com.au/celebrity/celebrity-headlines/2014/11/brad-and-anges-balcony-blowout/

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  122. Guest2 said on November 24th, 2014 at 8:33 pm

    This is a strange photo of jolie and the star of her war movie. What director poses like this with their lead actor? If the genders were reversed it would look like sexual harassment. Jolie must be enjoying her casting couch.

    http://www.femalefirst.co.uk/board/viewtopic.php?f=40&t=651207&start=90

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  123. morris maltenburg said on November 24th, 2014 at 8:50 pm

    Pedophile Ring Tied to UK Lawmakers in ’80s Under Inquiry

    Monday, 24 Nov 2014 09:27 AM

    By Melanie Batley

    The British Home Secretary announced that police are investigating allegations of child abuse and a possible homicide cover-up in a pedophile ring linked to members of Parliament in the 1980s.

    According to the Daily Telegraph, 40 detectives are looking into claims by a man who said he had been victimized at parties in the 1980s.

    The alleged victim said he witnessed three boys being killed, including one allegedly strangled by a Conservative MP during a sex game.

    The investigation also involves a case regarding the 1981 death of 8-year-old Vishal Mehrotra, who was taken near a notorious guest house and later found dead.

    Mehrotra’s father gave the police evidence at the time that he may have been taken to the guest house but said police refused to investigate the allegation implicating “judges and politicians.” Mehrotra said it was a huge “cover-up.”

    Meanwhile, two former newspaper editors at the time have come forward alleging that security services served them with warnings not to publish information relating to people in positions of power who were involved in child sex abuse, another British newspaper, the Observer, reported.

    Several newspapers had been served with “D-notices,” or legal orders preventing them from publishing stories about politicians who were child abusers in the 1980s.

    Theresa May, the Home Secretary, said the recent revelations that the politicians allegedly murdered and raped young boys is “only the tip of the iceberg,” according to the Telegraph.

    “How was it that in the past, but continuing today, the very institutions of the state that should be protecting children were not doing so?” May said, according to the Telegraph.

    “Why was it that these abuses were able to take place and that nobody was brought to justice as a result of that. We must as a society, I believe, get to the truth of that and because I think what we’re seeing is frankly — what we’ve already seen revealed — is only the tip of the iceberg on this issue.”

    Bernard Hogan-Howe, commissioner of the London Metropolitan Police, said the force was taking the allegations “seriously,” according to the Telegraph.

    “There are a series of claims over quite a long period of time and not all of them are linked, although in the public’s imagination they might be,” Hogan-Howe said.

    “We have now had more recently this discussion or these claims about murder and, of course, that makes it even more serious.”

    The allegations of a cover-up included the “extra complication” of involving “people in power,” he said.

    “I am determined we will get to the bottom of this, so we are talking to the witnesses and all the people who have got information,” Hogan-Howe added.

    © 2014 Newsmax. All rights reserved.

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  124. joanne said on November 24th, 2014 at 9:09 pm

    @morris maltenburg:
    Its a worldwide problem and needs to be exposed. I remember seeing a picture of corbett at some dinner with boy waiters but can’t seem to find it anywhere now. that is news I would read, expose them all. I also have to change my mind against going against another american. Child, animal and the weakened abusers need our anger not our admiration.

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  125. morris maltenburg said on November 24th, 2014 at 9:14 pm

    @joanne:
    I absolutely hear what you’re saying Joanne.

    Onb O’Bysmal Care…. In my view it will be completely dismantled piece by piece. It was not a bad idea to help people get insured. Here is why. Two words Preventive Care. You don’t wait to have small problems blow up into gigantic problems that are far far more costly to bring under control.

    Yet, the current law was very poorly conceived. Remember Nanny Nazi was spouting off that it had to be passed before it could even be read the first time. Wrong, wrong, wrong. You read it first most obviously, make corrections, and changes, attempting to improve its many problems. Then you pass it.

    Now, come January, it more than likely will be repealed, or dismantled a piece at a time. This helps no one. It needs to be sound law first. Then poor people will actually have a chance. The worse part today, is that instead of securing our border, and spending the money for a law already on the books, O’Bysmal is secretly funneling monies to various railroads that are foreign owned in order to destroy the border. This is about a one world government, a one world religion, and about the destruction of America. These millions of people coming in will all need health care. Do you want to go broke so that foreign nationals get American Health Care? While you go without?.

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  126. morris maltenburg said on November 24th, 2014 at 9:19 pm

    @joanne:
    Joanne,
    The stuff going on in Britain went on for decades. You can bet that the Scienos were completely involved along with Jimmy Savile and Sydney Cooke, among others. I won’t be surprised to find out that Hague was one of the VICTIMS.

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  127. morris maltenburg said on November 24th, 2014 at 9:36 pm

    This story first appeared in the Dec. 5 issue of The Hollywood Reporter magazine.

    Amy Berg’s sex abuse exposé An Open Secret isn’t the only new documentary likely to ruffle feathers in Hollywood.

    THR has learned that Oscar winner Alex Gibney (Taxi to the Dark Side) is putting the finishing touches on a film that tackles the Church of Scientology and its Tinseltown tentacles. HBO, no stranger to controversy, having ushered such hot-button docs as The Case Against 8 and the Paradise Lost trilogy to the screen, is eyeing a 2015 airdate for Going Clear, which is based on Lawrence Wright’s controversial book that was also exclusively excerpted in THR.

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    HBO long has championed documentary filmmaking. It commissioned the Scientology project nearly two years ago, right after the book’s January 2013 publication, when frequent collaborator Gibney brought it to the network. The film, which is expected to feature new revelations about the controversial religion and its famous followers Tom Cruise and John Travolta, almost certainly will draw an aggressive response from the notoriously litigious church.

    “We have probably 160 lawyers [looking at the film],” says HBO Documentary Films president Sheila Nevins, who is bracing for protests as well. If the doc is finished in time, it likely will be submitted to the Sundance Film Festival in January.

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    This is not the first time HBO has tussled with the Church of Scientology. When the network aired the 1998 documentary Dead Blue: Surviving Depression, throngs of protesters converged in front of HBO’s midtown Manhattan headquarters, lambasting Nevins and the company for presenting antidepressant drugs in a positive light (Scientologists are opposed to psychiatry).

    “I didn’t see what [antidepressants] had to do with Scientology until I worked on that film, until I saw these people outside the building,” recalls Nevins in an interview. “I thought they must be a union protest. But it was our film they were protesting. They’re so anti-psychiatry, anti-medicine and anti-Freud. It was really quite interesting.”

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    But are a throng of HBO lawyers enough to combat the church’s legal arsenal? Wright’s Going Clear, which stemmed from his 2011 New Yorker profile of filmmaker and former Scientologist Paul Haggis, prompted an all-out offensive from the church. The book’s U.K. publisher, Transworld, dropped Going Clear from its lineup on the advice of its lawyers. The title, which was a National Book Award finalist in the U.S., never was published in the U.K.

    Nonetheless, HBO and Gibney (UTA, Cowan DeBaets) aren’t inclined to back down, having taken on other powerful organizations in the past including the Catholic Church (Mea Maxima Culpa: Silence in the House of God) and the U.S. military (Taxi to the Dark Side). And though Wright says he has received threatening letters from lawyers representing Hollywood Scientologists, the Pulitzer Prize-winning author is prevailing in the battle of wills. Thanks to HBO, his story of physical abuse and imprisonment within the church now will reach a much wider audience.

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  128. morris maltenburg said on November 24th, 2014 at 9:41 pm

    Hollywood’s once-most-feared woman opens up for the first time about being fired by Cruise (and the role Scientology played in their split), why she had to fire her longtime business partner Leslee Dart and her “selfish” life following an unprecedented, astonishing career.

    This story first appeared in Dec. 20 issue of The Hollywood Reporter magazine.
    Recommended:

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    Drive up to Pat Kingsley’s house in Pacific Palisades, Calif., and you’ll be in for a bit of a shock. Amid the elegant homes and manicured mansions, it seems incongruously small, a modest, single-story place built in the early 1950s, its blandness almost studied, with little to set it apart except, perhaps, for the blinds drawn closed, as if to keep the world out.

    This is where you’ll find the woman who ruled Hollywood for years, dispensing favors to a few and fearsomeness to many more, terrifying reporters and editors alike — and even several of the studio executives who paid her bills — a woman who, before her 2009 retirement, held sway at the nexus of Hollywood and the media, as authoritative as she was authoritarian, as strategic as others were tactical, a giant in a land of dwarfs.

    She defined modern publicity, creating long-term road maps for her unparalleled roster of stars, issuing edicts on their behalf like no flak had done before and limiting their exposure strictly to the essential. She gave them an aura of mystery, a steel wall against inquiring minds. “I never had anybody who made me think everything would be OK like her,” says longtime client Jodie Foster. “It’s just the safety she conveys of somebody who is going to take charge.”

    Kingsley’s dominance allowed her to earn seven figures a year, and she made even more from the sale of her company, PMK (which had billings of about $12 million a year). And yet she chooses to live with a modesty that by Hollywood standards seems almost austere. As if she no longer has anything to prove — as if she ever did.

    All of which gives me pause as I walk toward the house on a warm afternoon the day before Thanksgiving and ring the bell. Silence. Then the door cracks opens and a poodle mix scurries out, yapping, followed by the lady herself. She’s tall, and surprisingly gracious, with silver hair and large, plain glasses that give her an almost schoolmarmish air. She smiles with unexpected warmth.

    “Don’t worry,” she says, introducing me to her daughter’s dog, Clara, with her distinctive Southern accent undimmed, before leading me inside. “She’s all bark and no bite.”

    At 81, Pat Kingsley, for the first time in years, has agreed to talk about her life and work, and over the next two and a half hours, she will do precisely that, without hesitation or doubt, only once raising an index finger to warn something is off the record. She talks about everything from her time with Joan Crawford and Charlie Chaplin (”He had this heavy coat he never took off; he thought he was going to die of pneumonia”); to her bitter split with partner Leslee Dart; to her last days at PMK; and even to her relationship with, and eventual firing by, Tom Cruise.

    On Dart: “She felt it was her time. She felt she was ready to run the company. But that wasn’t the case. And since her contract was coming up, [I thought] it was the best time [for her to go]. That was sad.”

    On exiting PMK: “I was having more and more trouble dealing with the issues. I wanted less and less to do with the outside world. I just wanted to work with the staff and let them be conduits [to journalists] and clients, pretty much everybody else. They said, ‘What if you take a buyout?’ I said, ‘I’m all for it.’ ”

    On Cruise: “His assistant called and made an appointment for Tom to come into my office. He had never been to my office before. And he came in, had a few minutes of chitchat, and he said, ‘I want you to know I’ve decided to make a change.’ I said: ‘I knew that was going to happen today. I guess I’ll probably take a pretty big hit with the media.’ And he said, ‘Well, we’ve all had those hits, haven’t we?’ I said, ‘Yeah. I’ll be OK.’ And then I said, ‘A lot of people have worked on your behalf that you’re not aware of, and I’d like to have you say hello to them.’ So I took him around, and he saw everybody and even went to see the mailman, just as cordial as could be.”

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  129. morris maltenburg said on November 24th, 2014 at 9:44 pm

    Scientology’s Seduction of Tom Cruise, Role in Nicole Kidman Split Detailed

    THR’s exclusive excerpt from Pulitzer Prize-winning writer Lawrence Wright ’s new book reveals how the church came between Cruise and Kidman, leader David Miscavige’s intense courtship of the star, Bill Clinton’s advice to the actor on how to lobby Tony Blair, and how Cruise once told Miscavige, “If f–ing Arnold can be governor, I could be President.”

    Gary Musgrave

    January 9, 2013 by Lawrence Wright

    This story first appeared in the Jan. 18 issue of The Hollywood Reporter magazine.

    The past year hasn’t been kind to the Church of Scientology. Katie Holmes divorced Tom Cruise. A Vanity Fair cover story that revealed the Scientology-run “audition” process to be Cruise’s wife included an interview with one of Cruise’s original candidates who was forced, she claims, to scrub toilets with a toothbrush as punishment. Meanwhile, Scientologist John Travolta was hit with several lawsuits (albeit unrelated to the Church) that spawned endless Internet speculation. Behind those sensational headlines, details of an organization whose secrecy long has been guarded began to seep out with detractors using the Internet to expose the Church’s sacred documents and allege wrongdoing. Now, Pulitzer Prize-winning writer Lawrence Wright, who profiled ex-Scientologist Paul Haggis for The New Yorker in 2011, delves fullon into the history and inner workings of the Church of Scientology in his book Going Clear: Scientology, Hollywood, and the Prison of Belief.

    Despite bad publicity and questions about its size — one survey puts U.S. membership at 25,000 (the Church claims 8 million worldwide), with the largest concentration in L.A. — Scientology continues to survive, with ex-members claiming it has assets of about $1 billion. As many as 5,000 people belong to the Sea Org, its elite clergy. Adherents are drawn to Scientology’s emphasis on self-improvement, though the Church’s theology and practices remain unknown to the public. (Since 1993, the IRS has classified Scientology as a tax-exempt religion.) Wright’s account, which is detailed through Church documents, court records and hundreds of interviews, including many with ex-members, is disputed by Scientology, which declined to give interviews for the book.

    Karin Pouw, a representative for Scientology tells THR that, “The one thing ‘clear’ about Lawrence Wright’s book is that he continues to carry water for a handful of angry, bitter individuals … [who] regurgitate six decades of false, bizarre tabloid allegations about the religion’s founder, its leadership and its prominent members.” Far from being in decline, she says Scientology opened 30 new churches in 2012. (Read Pouw’s complete response here.)

    Wright argues that the Church’s mystique rests mainly on its celebrity members. Early on, founder L. Ron Hubbard recruited Hollywood notables like Gloria Swanson. David Miscavige, who has headed the Church since Hubbard’s death in 1986, followed this strategy by cultivating Cruise, who has become the public face of the Church and one of its largest donors. Cruise, now 50, became a Scientologist in 1986 and the biggest celebrity to join the Church since Travolta. Cruise admired Miscavige’s confidence and bravado. Miscavige, in turn, was seduced by Cruise’s celebrity and opulent lifestyle. But by the mid-’90s, Cruise and wife Nicole Kidman drifted away from the Church, which frantically scrambled to win him back. In this exclusive excerpt, Wright details the relationship between Cruise and Miscavige, the star’s renewed commitment to Scientology following his divorce from Kidman and his emergence as possibly the second most- powerful figure in the Church. — Andy Lewis

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    For five days in October 1998, Tom Cruise, one of the biggest movie stars in the world, secretly drove into a private parking lot in the back of the historic Guaranty Building on Hollywood Boulevard, with the yellow Scientology sign atop. Charlie Chaplin and Rudolph Valentino used to have their offices here — now the lobby is a shrine to the life and works of L. Ron Hubbard. A giant bust of the founder greets the occasional visitor.

    Cruise went in a back door that led to a basement hallway and went directly to the “secret” 11th floor, where senior Church officials like David Miscavige and Marty Rathbun maintained offices. “He was not in good shape, spiritually or mentally,” Rathbun observed. “He was personally very enturbulated,” Scientology terminology for agitated.(1)

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    Rathbun, then the Inspector General at the Religious Technology Center, which oversees the Church’s spiritual materials, had gone to Los Angeles to meet Cruise for auditing, the Church’s system of religious counseling. (Rathbun is no longer connected to Scientology and is now one of its most outspoken critics. The Church has dismissed his accounts and refers to him as part of a “posse of lunatics.”)

    Cruise, the Church’s most visible adherent, had been drifting away. According to Rathbun, Miscavige — Scientology’s de facto head since Hubbard’s death — blamed the actor’s wife, Nicole Kidman, and viewed her as a gold digger who was faking Scientology. He says that Miscavige was hopeful that if they portrayed Nicole Kidman as a Suppressive Person, Cruise could be peeled away from her.(2)

    After that episode of auditing, Cruise went quiet again. He and Kidman were in England filming Eyes Wide Shut for Stanley Kubrick. Suddenly, in January 2001, Rathbun said he got a call from the actor asking for help. Cruise said that he and Kidman were finished. Cruise never offered a public explanation for the divorce, and Kidman herself was clearly surprised by his decision.

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    This was a decisive moment in Cruise’s relationship with Scientology. Rathbun provided the star with more than 200 hours of auditing over the next couple of years. From July through Thanksgiving 2001, Rathbun was with Cruise at the Celebrity Centre frequently, doing auditing rundowns. He paired Cruise with another actor, Jason Beghe, to do training drills; for instance, Beghe would think of a hypothetical date, which Cruise had to figure out using the E-Meter, a Scientology device that measures a body’s electrical resistance by gripping two metal rods, a guessing exercise Cruise found really frustrating. (Cruise’s attorney says, “Cruise may have had a chance encounter with Beghe at the Celebrity Centre but had no such meeting with him.”)(3)

    First footnote: Interview with Mark “Marty” Rathbun.

    Second footnote: Interview with Mark “Marty Rathbun.

    Third footnote: Interview with Jason Beghe.

    At the same time, 29-year-old Tommy Davis began acting as Rathbun’s assistant. He brought sandwiches and helped out with Conor and Isabella, Cruise’s two children with Kidman, making sure they were receiving Church services. Despite his youth, Davis was already a unique figure in the Church: He was a second-generation Scientologist, a member of the Sea Org, an elite group of about 3,000 that functions in effect as the Church’s clergy, and a scion of the Hollywood elite.

    His mother was Anne Archer, a popular actress who had been nominated for an Academy Award for Fatal Attraction. She had always been proud to associate herself with Scientology in public, speaking at innumerable events on behalf of the Church, and her son Tommy embodied the aspiration of the Church to establish itself in the Hollywood community. He had known Cruise since he was 18 years old, so it was natural that he soon became the Church’s liaison with the star. Rathbun assigned Davis to sit with Cruise in the parking lot of a Home Depot in Hollywood while the star was doing his Tone Scale drills — guessing the emotional state of random people coming out of the store.(4)

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    Rathbun was opposed to the endless courtship of Cruise. In his opinion, there was no need for it once Cruise was securely back in the Church’s fold. He told Miscavige, “I think I’m done with this guy.” Miscavige responded, “He’ll be done when he calls me.” Rathbun believes the leader was galled by the fact that Cruise had never contacted him when he came back for counseling.(5)

    During the actor’s early years in the Church, Cruise and Miscavige, who are two years apart in age (Cruise was born in 1962, Miscavige in 1960), had been exceptionally close, drawn together by a similar meteoric rise to success. They were both short but powerfully built, “East Coast personalities,” said Sinar Parman, Miscavige’s then-private chef. They shared a love of motorcycles, cars and adventurous sports. Cruise had been a movie star since he was 21, with two popular movies in the same year, The Outsiders and Risky Business. By age 25, he was the biggest star in Hollywood, on his way to becoming a true movie legend. At the same age, Miscavige rose to his position atop Scientology. Each of these men assumed extraordinary responsibilities when their peers were barely beginning their careers, so it was natural that they would see themselves mirrored in each other.(6)

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    Miscavige got involved in Scientology through his parents, who joined a Church near their Cherry Hill, N.J., home in the early 1970s and moved to its then-headquarters in Saint Hill, England, in 1972, where at the age of 12 David became one of the youngest auditors in the history of the Church — the “Wonder Kid,” he was called.(7)

    On his 16th birthday in 1976, he dropped out of 10th grade and formally joined the Sea Org, whose members dress in military-style uniforms — a remnant of its original purpose as Hubbard’s private navy. Less than a year later, he was transferred to the Commodore’s Messengers in California, an even more elite inner circle that enforced religious doctrine and served as Hubbard’s personal assistants. Here he continued to capture the attention of the Church hierarchy with his energy and commitment, renovating one of Hubbard’s houses and ridding it of fiberglass (which the founder said he was allergic to). Miscavige filled a spot in the founder’s plans that once might have been occupied by his troubled son Quentin Hubbard, who died in 1976 at age 22, although Miscavige displayed a passion and focus that Quentin never really possessed. Miscavige was tough, tireless and doctrinaire.(8)

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    He was just 19 when Hubbard promoted him to Action Chief, the person in charge of making sure that the founder’s directives were strictly and remorselessly carried out, and then at 23 to head of Special Project Ops, running missions around the world to fix sensitive problems that local Scientologists themselves could not handle.(9)

    [After Hubbard died of complications from a stroke in January 1986, Miscavige consolidated power by becoming Chairman of the Board (COB) of the Religious Technology Center (RTC), which controlled the Church's intellectual property, and forcing out Hubbard's designated successors. By April 1988, he was essentially running Scientology, nominally reporting to a figurehead board, but in reality controlling the levers of power.]

    When it came to Cruise, Miscavige was bedazzled by the glamour surrounding the star, who introduced him to a social set outside of Scientology, a world Miscavige knew little about, having spent most of his life cloistered in the Sea Org. He was thrilled when he visited Cruise on the set of Days of Thunder, and the actor took him skydiving for the first time. Cruise, for his part, fell under the spell of Miscavige’s commanding personality. He modeled his determined naval-officer hero in 1992’s A Few Good Men on Miscavige, a fact that the Church leader liked to brag about.(10)

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    In the early ’90s, Miscavige surrounded Cruise and Kidman with a completely deferential environment as spotless and odorless as a fairy tale at Gold Base, Scientology’s desert outpost near Hemet, Calif. Miscavige heard about the couple’s fantasy of running through a field of wildflowers together, so he had Sea Org members plant a section of the desert with them; when that failed to meet his expectations, the meadow was plowed and sodded with grass. When a flood triggered a mudslide that despoiled a romantic bungalow specially constructed for the couple, Miscavige held the entire base responsible and ordered everyone to work 16-hour days until everything was restored.

    Miscavige showed his instinctive understanding of how to cater to the sense of entitlement that comes with stardom. It was not just a matter of disposing of awkward personal problems, such as clinging spouses; there were also the endless demands for nourishment of an ego that is always aware of the fragility of success; the longing for privacy that is constantly at war with the demand for recognition; the need to be fortified against ordinariness and feelings of mortality; and the sense that the quality of the material world that surrounds you reflects upon your own value, and therefore everything must be made perfect. These were qualities Miscavige demanded for himself as well.(11)

    Fourth footnote: Interview with Jason Beghe. Interview with Tommy Davis.

    Fifth footnote: Interview with Mark “Marty” Rathbun. Interview with Tom De Vocht.

    Sixth footnote: Sinar Parman, personal communication.

    Seventh footnote: Interview with Karen de la Carriere.

    Eighth footnote: Deposition of David Miscavige Larry Wollersheim vs. David Miscavige and Church of Scientology California, Oct. 30, 1999; Deposition of David Miscavige, Bent Corydon vs. Church of Scientology, July 19, 1990.

    Ninth footnote: Deposition of David Miscavige, Bent Corydon vs. Church of Scientology, July 19, 1990.

    Tenth footnote: Interview with Mark “Marty” Rathbun.

    11th footnote: Affidavit of Andre Tabayoyon, Aug. 19, 1999. Interviews with Marc Headley. Interview with Amy Scobee. Karen Pressley interview on One Day One Destiny, a French documentary produced by Magneto Presse, 2009.

    Miscavige also cultivated Cruise to be a spiritual leader, not just a follower, having him trained as an auditor at Gold Base. Sixteen-year-old Sea Org member Marc Headley says he was among the first people audited by Cruise. He reported to a large conference room and right away noticed Kidman, who was also receiving auditing, and Kirstie Alley, whom he later came to believe was there mainly as a “celebrity prop,” since she did little other than read.

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    “Hello, I am Tom,” Headley remembers Cruise saying, vigorously shaking his hand. (Cruise, through his attorney, says he has no recollection of meeting Headley.) The actor handed Headley the metal cans that were attached to the E-Meter and asked if the temperature in the room was all right. Then he instructed Headley to take a deep breath and let it out. This was a metabolism test, which is supposed to show whether the subject was prepared for the session. Apparently, the needle on the E-Meter didn’t fall sufficiently. Headley was so starstruck that he was having trouble focusing.

    “Did you get enough sleep?” Cruise asked.

    “Yeah.”

    “Did you get enough to eat?”

    “Yeah.”

    “Did you take your vitamins?”

    Headley said he never took vitamins.

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    “That might be the problem,” Cruise said. He went into the pantry, which was filled with snacks for the celebrities. Headley was used to the meager Sea Org fare, and he was taken aback by the cornucopia laid out. The actor found several vitamins and then asked, “Do you take a lot of bee pollen?”

    Headley had no idea what he meant.

    “Never had bee pollen?” Cruise said excitedly. “Oh, that will do the trick for sure.”

    He led Headley to his Yamaha motorcycle and rode the two of them to the base canteen. It was dinnertime, and the canteen was filled with Headley’s gawking co-workers. Headley was surprised to learn that there was bee pollen for sale, though he says Cruise didn’t pay for it; he just grabbed it, and they went back to the conference room. This time, Headley passed the metabolism test, though he privately credited a Danish he ate over the bee pollen.

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    According to Headley, Cruise helped him through the Upper Indoctrination Training Routines. “Look at the wall,” Cruise would have said, according to Hubbard’s specifications. “Thank you. Walk over to the wall. Thank you. Touch the wall. Thank you.” The purpose of this exercise, according to Hubbard, is to “assert control over the preclear and increase the preclear’s havingness.” (”Clear” is the state novice Scientologists aspire to that signals their subconscious, or “reactive,” mind is free.)

    Cruise went on to ask Headley to make an object — such as a desk — hold still or become more solid. Another exercise involved telling an ashtray to stand up, at which point the novice stands and lifts the ashtray, thanks the ashtray and then commands the ashtray to sit down. With each repetition, the commands get louder, so soon he is yelling at the ashtray at the top of his voice. The purpose is to come to the realization that your intention is separate from your words and the sound waves that carry them. These procedures went on for hours as Headley robotically responded to Cruise’s commands. “You learn that if you don’t do what they say, they’ll just ask the same questions 5 million times,” Headley recalled.(12)

    12th footnote: Headley, Blown for Good, pp. 116-18. Hubbard, “Training and CCH Processes,” HCO Bulletin, June 11, 1957, reissued May 12, 1972

    After becoming associated with Cruise, the style of Miscavige’s life came to reflect that of a fantastically wealthy and leisured movie star. He normally awakens at noon, with a cup of coffee and a Camel cigarette. Then he takes breakfast, the first of his five meals.(13)

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    According to Parman, the chef, he was eating “three squares and a snack at night” until the late-’90s, when he said he wanted to “get ripped and have six-pack abs” like bodybuilders featured in magazines. At the time, Miscavige changed physical trainers, began taking bodybuilding supplements and adopted a diet that requires each meal to be at least 40 percent protein and to contain no more than 400 calories. Soon, he was looking like the men in the magazines.

    To maintain Miscavige’s physique, chefs have to enter each portion size into a computer. Miscavige often starts the day with an omelet of one whole egg and five egg whites. Two-and-a-half hours later, lunch is provided. Two choices would be prepared daily, for both him and his wife. Dinner is a five-course meal, and once again, dual entrees are prepared for him to choose from. Miscavige’s favorite foods include wild mushroom risotto, linguine in white clam sauce and pate de foie gras. Several times a week, a truck from Santa Monica Seafood delivers Atlantic salmon or live lobster. Corn-fed lamb is flown in from New Zealand.

    When guests such as Cruise come to dinner at his well-appointed house, the kitchen goes into extravagant bursts of invention, with ingredients sometimes flown in from different continents. Two hours after dinner, the first evening snack arrives, with lighter offerings such as Italian white bean soup or clam chowder. After midnight, there is a final late-night snack — a selection of nonfat cheeses, an apple crisp or blueberry crepes, often garnished with edible flowers. Two full-time chefs work all day preparing these meals, with several full-time stewards to serve them. According to Headley’s wife, Claire, who oversaw the finances for the Religious Technology Center between 2000 and 2004, the food costs for the Miscaviges and their guests would range between $3,000 to as much as $20,000 a week.(14)

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    At the end of the evening, Miscavige retires to his den and drinks Macallan scotch and plays backgammon with members of his entourage or listens to music on his $150,000 stereo system (he loves Michael Jackson) or watches movies in his private screening room (his favorite films are Scarface and The Godfather trilogy). He usually turns in around three or four in the morning.(15)

    He collects guns, maintains at least six motorcycles and has a number of automobiles, including an armor-plated GMC Safari van with bulletproof windows and satellite television and a souped-up Saleen Mustang that Cruise gave him to match his own. Until 2007, when he traveled, Miscavige would often rent Cruise’s Gulfstream jet, but he has since upgraded to renting a roomier Boeing business jet, at a cost of $30,000 to $50,000 a trip. His uniforms and business suits are fashioned by Richard Lim, a Los Angeles tailor whose clients include Cruise, Will Smith and Martin Sheen. Miscavige’s shoes are custom-made in London by John Lobb, bootmaker to the royal family. His wardrobe fills an entire room, and two full-time stewards are responsible for his cleaning and laundry. Cruise admired the housecleaning so much — even Miscavige’s light bulbs are polished once a month — that the Church leader sent a Sea Org team to Cruise’s Telluride retreat to train the star’s staff.(16)

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    Miscavige keeps a number of dogs, including five beagles. He had blue vests made up for each of them, with four stripes on the shoulder epaulets, indicating the rank of Sea Org Captain. He insists that people salute the dogs as they parade by. The dogs have a treadmill where they work out. A full-time staff member feeds, walks and trains the dogs and enters one of them, Jelly, into contests, where he has attained championship status.(17)

    13th footnote: Reitman, Inside Scientology, p. 290.

    14th footnote: Reitman, Inside Scientology, p. 290. Interviews with Tom De Vochit and Mark “Marty” Rathbun. Information about David Miscavige’s diet comes from his former chefs, Sinar Parman and Lana Mitchell.

    15th footnote: Reitman, Inside Scientology, p. 319. Interview with Mark “Marty” Rathbun. Interview with Tom De Vocht. Lana Mitchell, “Hot and cold Running Servants,” June 27, 2011, http://www.scientology-cult.com/hot-and-cold-running-servants.html. Sinar Parman says that when Miscavige is in Clearwater, he generally rises at 9 a.m.

    16th footnote: Interviews with Mike Rinder, Janela Webster, John Brousseau and Noriyuki Matsumaru. John Brousseau, personal correspondence. Lana Mitchell, “Hot and Cold Running Servants.”

    17th footnote: Interviews with Marc Headley, Claire Headley and John Brousseau.

    One of Miscavige’s favorites, a Dalmatian/pit bull mix named Buster, went on a rampage one day and killed 10 peacocks on the property, and then the dog proudly laid out his kill for all to see. Buster also attacked various members of the staff — sending one elderly woman to the emergency room — before being transferred to another base, causing staffers to joke he had been sent to the dog equivalent of Scientology rehabilitation.(18)

    The contrast with the other Sea Org members is stark. They eat in a mess hall, which features a meat-and-potatoes diet and a salad bar, except for occasional extended periods of rice and beans. The average cost per meal as of 2005 (according to Headley, who participated in the financial planning each week) was about 75 cents a head — significantly less than what is spent per inmate in the California prison system.

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    When members join the Sea Org, they are issued two sets of pants, two shirts and a pair of shoes, which is their lifetime clothing allotment; anything else, they purchase themselves. Although the nominal pay for Sea Org members is $50 a week, many are fined for various infractions, so it’s not unusual to be paid as little as $13 or $14.(19)

    There are lavish exercise facilities at the base — an Olympic-size pool, a golf course, basketball courts — but they are rarely used. Few are permitted to have access to computers. Every personal phone call is listened to; every letter is inspected. Cultural touchstones common to most Americans are often lost on Sea Org members at Gold Base. They may not know the name of the president of the United States or be able to tell the difference between the Republican and Democratic parties. It’s not as if there is no access to outside information; there is a big-screen television in the dining hall, and people can listen to the radio or subscribe to newspapers and magazines; however, news from the outside world begins to lose its relevance when people are outside of the wider society for extended periods of time. Many Sea Org members have not left the base for a decade.(20)

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    Cruise’s renwed dedication to Scientology following his divorce from Kidman permanently changed the relationship between the Church and the Hollywood celebrity community. Miscavige and Cruise became closer than ever. The Church leader flew with Cruise in the Warner Bros. jet to a test screening of The Last Samurai in Arizona. In July 2004, Miscavige hosted a 42nd birthday party for Cruise aboard the Scientology cruise ship Freewinds. Musicians (including Miscavige’s father) played songs from the actor’s movies as clips played on giant screens. Cruise himself danced and sang “Old Time Rock and Roll,” reprising his famous scene from Risky Business.(21)

    Cruise later said of Miscavige: “I have never met a more competent, a more intelligent, a more compassionate being outside of what I have experienced from [studying L. Ron Hubbard]. And I’ve met the leaders of leaders. I’ve met them all.”(22)

    18th footnote: Interview with Marc Headley. Claire Headley, personal correspondence.

    19th footnote: Dan Koon, personal correspondence. Interviews with Janela Webster, Daniel Montalvo and Sandy Kent Fullerr. Mike Rinder, Lana Mitchell, Mariette Lindstein and John Brousseau, personal communication. http://markrathbun.files.wordpress.com/2011/11/transcript_of_bryan_seymour_interview_with_lana_mitchell_17b1u9r-17b1u9t.pdf

    21st footnote: Tony Ortega, ‘Scientology’s Cruise Ship as Prison,” Runnin’ Scared (blog) The Village Voice, Nov. 29, 2011. http://blogs.villagevoice.com/runninscared/2011/11/valeska_paris_chris_guider_scientology_freewinds.php.

    22nd footnote: 2004 International Association of Scientologists Freedom Medal of Valor Ceremony.

    [In 2004 Miscavige assigned a team to help Cruise in his search for a girlfriend. The search came up with an aspiring actress Nazanin Boniadi, a 25-year-old Iranian born, London-raised woman whose mother was also a Scientologist. She was given intensive auditing and security checks by the Church and flown to New York and Telluride in late 2007 for elaborate dates with Cruise.]

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    But the relationship ended when Miscavige addressed comments to her and she couldn’t quite understand what he said. She had to ask him to repeat himself more than once.

    The next day both Davis and Cruise dressed her down for disrespecting the Church leader. Naz had embarrassed Miscavige because he wasn’t able to get his message across. With his characteristic intensity, Cruise himself later explained the seriousness of the situation:(23)

    “You don’t get it, it goes like this,” Cruise said. He raised his hand over his head. “First there’s LRH.” He moved his hand down a few inches. “Then there is COB.” Bringing his hand down to his own eye level, he said, “Then there’s me.” (Cruise’s attorney denies that this exchange took place or that the Church set him up.)(24)

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    A few months later, in April 2005, Cruise met Katie Holmes. The two were married in November 2006. Miscavige was Cruise’s best man. [Though she was often seen with Scientology officials, it has never been revealed how much, if any, Scientology training Holmes engaged in before she and Cruise divorced in 2012.]

    Cruise poured millions of dollars into the Church — $3 million in 2004. He was not simply a figurehead; he was an activist with an international following. He could take the Church to places it had never been before. Whenever Cruise traveled abroad to promote his movies, he used the opportunity to lobby foreign leaders and American ambassadors to promote Scientology.(25)

    Cruise repeatedly consulted with President Clinton, lobbying him to get Prime Minister Tony Blair’s help in getting the Church of Scientology declared a tax-deductible charitable organization in the U.K. Rathbun was present for one telephone call in which Clinton advised Cruise he would be better served by contacting Blair’s wife, Cherie, rather than the prime minister because she was a lawyer and “would understand the details.” Later, Cruise went to London, where he met with a couple of Blair’s representatives, though nothing came of those efforts.(26 )

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    In 2003, he met with Deputy Secretary of State Richard Armitage and Vice President Dick Cheney’s chief of staff, Scooter Libby, to express the Church’s concerns over its treatment in Germany. Cruise had access to practically anyone in the world.(27)

    That same year, Cruise and Davis lobbied Rod Paige, the secretary of education during the first term of President George W. Bush, to endorse Hubbard’s “study tech” educational methods. Paige had been impressed. For months, Cruise kept in contact with Paige’s office, urging that Scientology techniques be folded into the president’s No Child Left Behind program.(28)

    23rd footnote: Maureen Orth, “What Katie Didn’t Know,” Vanity Fair, Oct. 2012.

    24th footnote: Interview with Mark “Marty” Rathbun. Rathbun, The Scientology Reformation, p. 86.

    25th footnote: Reitman, Inside Scientology, p. 286.

    26th footnote: Mike Rinder interview.

    27th footnote:Reitman, Inside Scientology, p. 286.

    28th footnote: Reitman, Inside Scientology, p. 286.

    One day, Cruise flew his little red-and-white-striped Pitts Special biplane, designed for aerobatics, to Hemet, along with his Scientologist chief of staff, Michael Doven. Miscavige and Rathbun picked them up and drove them to Gold Base. Rathbun was in the back seat and recalls Cruise boasting to COB about his talks with the secretary.

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    “Bush may be an idiot,” Miscavige observed, “but I wouldn’t mind his being our Constantine,” referring to the first Roman Emperor to convert to Christianity.

    Cruise agreed. “If f–ing Arnold can be governor, I could be president.”

    Miscavige responded, “Well, absolutely, Tom.”

    (Cruise, through his lawyer, denies this exchange and says he has no political ambition.)(29)

    Cruise turned his attention to the other Scientologists in the industry. Many had gone quiet following the negative publicity surrounding several high-profile exposés of the Church or had never openly admitted their affiliation with Scientology to begin with. Cruise called a meeting of other Scientology celebrities and urged them to become more outspoken. The popular singer Beck, who had grown up in the Church, subsequently began speaking openly about his faith. Erika Christensen, a rising young actress who was also a second-generation Scientologist, called Cruise her spiritual mentor.

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    By the mid-2000s, Cruise was considered the unofficial Ethics Officer of Hollywood. He was the embodiment of Hubbard’s vision of a Church with temples dedicated to celebrity rather than God. Cruise’s intensity and commitment, along with his spectacular ambition, matched Miscavige’s own. It was as if Miscavige had rubbed a magic lantern and Cruise had appeared, a genie who could open any door. He was one of the few people Miscavige saw as a peer. Miscavige even wondered if there was some way to appoint Cruise the Church’s Inspector General for Ethics — Rathbun’s job.(30)

    “He’d say that Tom Cruise was the only person in Scientology, other than himself, that he would trust to run the Church,” one former Sea Org member recalled. Rathbun observed: “Miscavige convinced Cruise that he and Tom were two of only a handful of truly ‘big beings’ on the planet. He instructed Cruise that LRH was relying upon them to unite with the few others of their ilk on earth to make it onto ‘Target Two’ — some unspecified galactic locale where they would meet up with Hubbard in the afterlife.”(31)

    Lawrence Wright is a staff writer at The New Yorker and the author of six books, including The Looming Tower: Al Qaeda and the Road to 9/11, which won the 2007 Pulitzer Prize.

    Excerpted from Going Clear by Lawrence Wright. Copyright (c) 2013by Lawrence Wright. Excerpted by permission of Knopf, a division of Random House, Inc. All rights reserved.

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  130. morris maltenburg said on November 24th, 2014 at 9:51 pm

    Scientology Book Excerpt: ‘The Church Had John Travolta Trapped’
    8:30 AM PST 01/09/2013 by Lawrence Wright

    Threats, a baby taken away, punishment: Extraordinary details of the tortured relationship between the actor and his handler, Spanky Taylor, as told by Pulitzer Prize-winning New Yorker writer Lawrence Wright in his revelatory new history of the controversial religion, excerpted exclusively in THR.
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    This story first appeared in the Jan. 18 issue of The Hollywood Reporter magazine

    Before Tom Cruise, John Travolta was the biggest celebrity Scientologist, joining during the mid-’70s when he was on the cusp of fame. The Church assigned Sylvia “Spanky” Taylor, a young, vivacious Sea Org member, as his liaison. She became his friend and confidante, helping him deal with his breakout success in Welcome Back, Kotter (1975) and Saturday Night Fever (1977). Their friendship unraveled in 1977, when the Church sent Taylor to Rehabilitation Project Force (RPF), its disciplinary program, and took custody of her child for opposing its treatment of her mentor. Ultimately, Scientology officials forced her out of the Church, and Travolta ended their relationship as detailed by Pulitzer Prize-winning writer Lawrence Wright in this exclusive excerpt from his book Going Clear: Scientology, Hollywood, and the Prison of Belief.

    Although in the book, Wright provides detailed notes on his sources and extensive research over the years, representatives for the Church declined to grant him interviews. Karin Pouw of the Church, in a statement to THR, said, “Of the 200 people [Wright] spoke with, only 9 were Scientologists. … Most of the remaining 200 were apostates, many who have shopped similar false claims to the gossip media for years.” (Read Pouw’s complete response here.) — Andy Lewis

    “Spanky” was a schoolyard nickname for Sylvia, but it had such a teasing twist that she could never escape it. She was the child of Mexican-American laborers in San Jose, Calif. When she was 14, she became a fan of a local band called People!, which included several Scientologists, and began helping it with concert promotion. Soon she was working with some of the other great local bands, including Creedence Clearwater Revival. Scientology was just another expression of the political and cultural upheaval of the times. Even members of The Grateful Dead were drawn to its promise of mystical experiences without hallucinogens. She joined the staff at the Santa Clara mission in 1969, when she was 15.

    She was a cheerful young woman with warm brown eyes who called everyone “honey.” Because of her experience with promotion, she was posted to the Celebrity Centre in Los Angeles. The place was constantly buzzing with activity — tie-dyeing, fencing, poetry readings — and she loved it. Famous people were always passing through, which added to the sense that something fun and important was happening there. Spanky inevitably came to the notice of the Centre’s founder Yvonne Gillham, who arranged for her to work with high-profile followers.(1)

    One celebrity quickly took precedence. Travolta was in Mexico making his first film, The Devil’s Rain, a cheap horror movie starring Ernest Borgnine and William Shatner. He got to be friends with Joan Prather, who was one of the few castmembers his age. “He glommed on to me from day one,” she said. “He was extremely unhappy and not doing well.” Prather began talking about how much Scientology had helped her.(2)

    When he returned to Los Angeles, Travolta began taking the Hubbard Qualified Scientologist Course at the Celebrity Centre with about 150 other students. He confided to the teacher, Sandy Kent, that he was about to audition for a television show, Welcome Back, Kotter. Kent instructed everyone to point in the direction of ABC Studios and telepathically communicate the instruction: “We want John Travolta for the part.” At the next meeting, Travolta revealed he had gotten the role of Vinnie Barbarino — the part that would soon make him famous. “My career immediately took off,” Travolta boasted in a Church publication. “Scientology put me in the big time.” (3)

    Although Travolta craved fame, he was taken aback by the clamor that came along with it. Spanky managed his relationship with his fans. She went to the tapings of his television show, accompanied him to his many public appearances, and persuaded Paramount Pictures to buy a large block of Scientology auditing for his birthday. She was his liaison with the Church. He introduced a number of fellow actors to Scientology, including Forest Whitaker, Tom Berenger and Patrick Swayze, as well as the great Russian dancer Mikhail Baryshnikov. (Travolta’s friend Priscilla Presley was the only one who actually stuck with the Church.) Spanky Taylor was a visible reminder of Travolta’s increasing devotion to Scientology as well as the Church’s investment in his fame, which could be jeopardized by the indiscreet behavior of a talented but entitled star. (4)

    In early 1977, Gillham fell ill. She complained of headaches and was losing weight. She wanted desperately to go to Scientology headquarters in Clearwater, Fla., where she could get the upper-level auditing she thought could cure her, but she was told there wasn’t money for that. Instead, she was sent on a mission to Mexico with her husband. On her 50th birthday, Oct. 20, 1977, while in Mexico, she suffered a stroke.

    Desperate to get Gillham the auditing she still thought she needed, Taylor went to the financial banking officer and begged her for the funds to send her friend to Clearwater. For her impertinence, Taylor was sentenced to RPF.

    Her new baby daughter, Vanessa, was taken away and placed in the Child Care Org, the Scientology nursery. There were 30 infants crammed into a small apartment with wall-to-wall cribs, with one nanny for every 12 children. It was dark and dank, and the children were rarely, if ever, taken outside.

    When she got the news she was being sent to RPF, Taylor cried, “You can’t do that now!” She was thinking of Travolta. He had just called her the day before, saying that he was arriving on an Air France flight after his appearance at a film festival in Deauville, where he was promoting Saturday Night Fever. Despite his triumph, Travolta appeared depressed and withdrawn. During the filming of Saturday Night Fever, his girlfriend, Diana Hyland, had died in his arms. She was two decades older than he — she played his mother in a made-for-TV movie, The Boy in the Plastic Bubble — and had already had a double mastectomy when they met. Their romance was doomed when her cancer recurred. Taylor had helped Travolta through that period of grief, but now his mother, the most important figure in his life, had also developed cancer. Travolta asked Taylor if she would pick him up at the airport. She promised him, “Wild horses wouldn’t keep me from being there!”

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    The Church officials now told Taylor that someone else would meet Travolta. Taylor knew the star would feel surprised and betrayed. He would immediately suspect that something terrible had happened and worry about her. Taylor was mortified to think that she would be the cause of his discomfort.

    The RPF had moved out of the basement up to the top floor of the old V-shaped building that formerly housed the Cedars of Lebanon Hospital. Nearly 200 people were crammed by the dozen into old patient rooms in bunks stacked three high. Because of the overcrowding,Taylor was given a soggy mattress on the roof. It was cold. She could hear the traffic on Sunset Boulevard only a block away. She had a view of the Hollywood Hills andthe endless lights of the wakeful city, which was throbbing all around her. So many young people like her had been pulled into the matrix of Hollywood glamour and fame, even if they would never enjoy it themselves. And now, here she was, in the heart of it — isolated, trapped, humiliated, an unnoticed speck on a rooftop. Who could believe that a person could be so lost in the middle of so much life?

    After six months, a pair of missionaries came to see Taylor with a strange request. “We would like you to arrange a private screening of Saturday Night Fever” to reward those in RPF. Getting to Travolta wasn’t easy, however. He was now the top box-office star in the world. The Church hierarchy was worried that he was also drifting away from Scientology. There was a problem. The movie was still being shown around the world, and all the prints were out. The only one available was Travolta’s copy, but his personal assistant Kate Edwards said she would make the request. “Johnny said if you ever called and needed something, just do it,” Edwards assured her.

    “You can’t tell John about this call!” Taylor said, embarrassed at being sent to RPF.

    “I’m going to have to tell him,” Edwards replied. “I’m going to have to ask him to borrow it.”

    Edwards told her that Travolta had agreed to loan Taylor the print, under one condition: that he could see her. The missionaries decided that as long as Taylor got the print, she could meet Travolta for dinner after the screening. (Travolta’s attorney denies that there was an agreement to visit Spanky in exchange for his personal copy of Saturday Night Fever.) Travolta followed up by sending flowers, which were delivered to Taylor in RPF.

    The screening took place on a Saturday night. As soon as the movie was over and the credits were rolling, several Scientology executives escorted Taylor to an office and told her to call Travolta and cancel their date for dinner the following night.

    “I can’t do that!” Taylor said.

    “There have been all sorts of efforts to recover him, and we can’t let you get in the way of that,” an official told her. “Call him right now.”

    Travolta was furious when he heard what she had to say. “We had a deal!” he said.“How could you do this?” he demanded.

    “How could you leave your baby?” For the first time in their relationship, he raised his voice. “My mother died, and you weren’t there!”( Travolta’s mother died from cancer in December 1978.)

    Taylor began to bawl so hard she couldn’t speak. She recalled that Travolta was asking questions she couldn’t answer, questions she had been afraid to pose herself. He seemed to know what she was going through. “Unless you killed somebody, which I don’t think you did, there’s no reason for you to be where you are,” Travolta told her. His frankness was devastating.

    “I’m doing this so I can be better!” Taylor sobbed. “So I can help you more.”

    Meanwhile, a Scientology official was jabbing his finger at her and mouthing an order to hang up the phone. She quickly said goodbye and set the phone in the cradle. Then she was escorted back to RPF.

    All that night she cried and cried, but when the sun came up, she was flooded with clarity.“I am so f—ing out of here!” she decided. “I don’t know how, but I’m getting out.”

    It wasn’t obvious how she could escape. She had been placed in RPF in March; now it was September. She didn’t know where to turn. It didn’t occur to her to call her parents because she was so apprehensive that she might bring shame on Scientology if anybody knew what had happened to her. Even if she did escape, she realized, she actually knew very little about what was going on in the world. Since she had joined Scientology at the age of 14, she had never read a book that hadn’t been written by Hubbard.

    Taylor managed to slip away to visit her 10-month-old daughter in the Child Care Org across the street. To her horror, she discovered that Vanessa had contracted whooping cough, which is highly contagious and occasionally fatal. The baby’s eyes were welded shut with mucus, and her diaper was wet — in fact, her whole crib was soaking. She was covered with fruit flies.

    She finally conceived a plan. Explaining to her guards that she had to telephone the doctor, she managed a brief call to Travolta’s office and asked Edwards to meet her the next day at a certain time, giving the address of the Child Care Org. She hung up without even hearing Edwards’ response.

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    The next day, she was allowed a brief visit to the nursery. She had an extra diaper, a toothbrush and four dimes, all the money she had in the world. Fortunately, Edwards arrived, right on time. Lying, Taylor explained to her Scientology escort that Edwards washer sister-in-law who had come to take Vanessa to the doctor.“

    “Is this approved?” he asked.

    “Oh, absolutely!” Taylor opened Edwards’ door and handed her the baby.

    Then, under her breath, she added, “Kate, when I shut this door, please drive away as quickly as you can.” Edwards nodded, then Taylor jumped in. Edwards hit the gas.

    Edwards checked them in to the Tropicana Hotel on Santa Monica Boulevard, but the next morning three Sea Org executives found her and brought her back to RPF.

    Taylor still believed in the revelations of her religion. She worried that her salvation was at stake. But she was also gripped with fear that her baby and her unborn child (Taylor had accidentally gotten pregnant again during a conjugal visit with her husband early in her time in RPF) were in mortal danger. At first, she was firm in telling the men that she wasn’t coming back. They told her that they hated to see her be declared a Suppressive Person and cut off from any other Scientologist — nearly everyone she knew. There was a proper way to “route out,” they reminded her. Eventually, Taylor agreed to return to the office to file the paperwork that would allow her to leave the Sea Org (with her child) on good terms and still be a Scientologist.

    Many former Sea Org members found their departure from the Church to be tangled in confusion, panic, grief and conflicting loyalties. Many still cling to a relationship with the Church. A year after leaving the Sea Org, she traveled to Houston to meet with Travolta. He was filming Urban Cowboy. On her own initiative, she came to “recover” him for the Church. She had heard he was having problems in his life, and she worried that her own troubles had prevented him from turning to the Church for help. It was also possible that if she brought Travolta back into the fold, her standing in the Church would be improved.

    Like most celebrities, Travolta had been shielded from the Church’s inner workings. The scandals that periodically erupted in the press about Hubbard’s biography, or his disappearance,or the Church’s use of private investigators and the courts to harass critics —these things rarely touched the awareness of Scientology luminaries. It was easy enough to chalk such revelations up to religious persecution or yellow journalism. “There are two sides to the story, but I don’t know both sides,” Travolta blithely said.

    He and Taylor met in the evening, after dinner, over a plate of chocolate chip cookies that she had brought. She explained that she had left the Sea Org and was with her two children now, then quickly changed the subject and asked about him. He described the problems he was having.

    Former Scientologists have given conflicting accounts of Travolta’s stressful relationship with the Church at that time. The Church hierarchy was desperately concerned that details about the private matters of their most valuable member would be revealed; at the same time, the hierarchy was prepared touse those details against him. Bill Franks, the Church’s former executive director, told Time magazine that in Franks’ opinion, the Church had Travolta trapped. At one point, the star sought assurance from Franks that his private confessions wouldn’t be used against him. In truth, intelligence officers inside the Church had already been directed to gather material — called a Dead Agent pack — that would be used against Travolta if he turned.(5)

    In Houston, however, Travolta told Taylor that he didn’t really feel that he needed to be recovered — he was just taking a break. However, Taylor did persuade him to buy a costly package of auditing. He had stopped his course work after completing OT III.

    After that, she received a letter from Hubbard saying, “Well done.” The founder asked if there was anything she needed. She asked nothing for herself but begged Hubbard to do a “Folder Error Summary” on Travolta, in which the founder would personally review all the star’s auditing over the years — considered a tremendous honor within Scientology.

    Still, not long afterward, Travolta stopped talking to Taylor. She got a call from Priscilla Presley, who had run into Travolta, and he said that they should get together. “I’ll call Spanky,” Presley had told him.

    “No, don’t go through Spanky,” Travolta said.

    When Spanky heard this, she realized she had been declared a Suppressive Person — a nonentity — despite her efforts to remain in the Church’s good graces. Nobody had bothered to tell her, but from now on, no Scientologist would be allowed to talk to her. (6)

    After leaving the Church, Taylor started her own business and raised her children, who never joined the religion. Her ex-husband is still a Scientologist. She has never spoken publicly about her experiences until now.

    Excerpted from Going Clear by Lawrence Wright. Copyright (c) 2013 by Lawrence Wright. Excerpted by permission of Knopf, a division of Random House, Inc. All rights reserved.

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  131. morris maltenburg said on November 24th, 2014 at 10:12 pm

    An uphurling of Scieno Faggotology

    Using L. Ron Hubbard’s “attack, don’t defend” strategy, Holmes even fired Tom Cruise’s older daughter weeks before filing for divorce; opposite tack from Nicole Kidman.

    In filing for divorce from Tom Cruise — and apparently blindsiding him — amid indications she doesn’t want her daughter raised a Scientologist and is seeking sole custody, Katie Holmes has made it clear that she is taking a very different tack from Nicole Kidman, who split up with Cruise in 2001.

    Kidman effectively lost the two children she adopted with Cruise when the kids chose to live with their father after the divorce. She has said it was the kids’ decision to stay with Cruise but has never explained why.

    “With Katie, it’s like she’s taking a leaf from [Church of Scientology founder] L. Ron Hubbard’s own playbook,” says Marc Headley, an ex-Scientologist who fled the church with the help of police in 2005 after years spent working closely with Cruise and his close friend, Scientology’s powerful and feared chairman, David Miscavige. “Hubbard always said, ‘Attack, don’t defend.’ ”

    Holmes appears more aggressive and fearless than those who have taken steps to distance themselves from the church or have “blown” — Scientology parlance for leaving the church — according to one-time key members of the church who have left, many after years of soul searching, and endured what they claim was often harassment, intimidation and being cut off from their families.

    But some of Holmes’ apparent courage could stem from the fact that many of the high-ranking Scientologists who ran interference for Cruise during his marriage to Kidman and often discouraged or intimidated mainstream media from reporting on Scientology have left the church. A number of them are now actively working against Miscavige and Cruise by spilling church secrets to the very reporters they once threatened.

    Even Jenna Miscavige Hill, David Miscavige’s niece, who left the church in 2005, issued a statement Tuesday in support of Holmes and any concern she has over her daughter’s involvement in the church.

    “My experience in growing up in Scientology is that it is both mentally and at times physically abusive,” Jenna said. “I was allowed to see my parents only once a week at best — sometimes not for years. We got a lousy education from unqualified teachers, forced labor, long hours, forced confessions, being held in rooms, not to mention the mental anguish of trying to figure out all of the conflicting information they force upon you as a young child. … As a mother myself, I offer my support to Katie and wish for her all the strength she will need to do what is best for her and her daughter.”

    Still, Holmes’ decision to file for divorce from Cruise in New York state and ask for sole legal custody and primary physical custody of their 6-year-old daughter, Suri, sent a strong message, ex-members say, that she isn’t cowed by Cruise and his reputation as a prominent member of what has long been considered a powerful and litigious organization. Holmes has hired Allan Mayefsky, a high-powered matrimonial lawyer with experience handling difficult divorces who is known to play cases out in the media, as well as New Jersey divorce lawyer Jonathan Wolfe.

    Requests for comment from Holmes attorneys were not immediately returned.

    “Katie ambushed Tom Cruise and in so doing outwitted some of the most controlling people on Earth,” says Karen De La Carriere, who was once one of the most powerful executives in Scientology and was married to Heber Jentzsch, Scientology’s longtime president who mysteriously hasn’t been seen in years. De La Carriere shocked the church by leaving in 2010 and telling secrets in anti-Miscavige blogs — including her claim that she was kept for six months against her will at the secretive church base camp near Hemet, Calif. “I have no doubt that she’s being tailed by them. It’s par for the course. But she had to have planned this very carefully, right down to using disposable cell phones and laptops to throw people off her trail. It had to have been a very cloak-and-dagger operation.”

    A former Scientologist with close ties to members of Cruise’s family says his adopted daughter Isabella worked for Holmes at her clothing line, Holmes and Yang, and was abruptly fired about two months ago.

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    “There was never any trouble between them,” says the source. “Bella called Katie ‘Mom.’ She was fired out of the blue, and once Katie filed for divorce, it all made sense. This was a carefully planned ambush. Katie didn’t want Bella working for her anymore because she was Tom’s kid.”

    Backed by her family, according to sources, especially her father, who is a divorce attorney, and perhaps emboldened by the increasing critiques and exposés of the church by former top members, Holmes is standing up to Scientology in a way that was almost unthinkable in 2001.

    “This was a very bold move on Katie’s part, but at the same time she knows these are different times and she has more support,” says De La Carriere, who joined the church’s elite and secretive Sea Organization in the early 1970s at the invitation of Hubbard, who died in 1986, and is the last surviving top “auditor” to be trained by him. (Auditing is a form of counseling central to Scientology philosophy.)

    Using L. Ron Hubbard’s “attack, don’t defend” strategy, Holmes even fired Tom Cruise’s older daughter weeks before filing for divorce; opposite tack from Nicole Kidman. page 2

    “By filing for sole custody of Suri, she’s making it very clear she’s not going to let what happened with Nicole Kidman happen to her,” says De La Carriere.

    Holmes has the advantage of going up against an organization that has been significantly weakened during the past decade, as an increasing number of high-level Scientologists such as Marty Rathbun and Mike Rinder have defected. Together, Rathbun and Rinder were considered the second- and third-most powerful church officials under Miscavige and took care of troublesome legal and media issues, among them Cruise’s divorce from Kidman. The pair have been described as one of the church’s most effective weapons by ex-Scientologists and in many media accounts.

    “They don’t have the resources or the people to help them attack the way they used to because so many key people have blown,” says Amy Scobee, whose mother signed her over to Scientology when she was 15 and who went on to run the church’s Celebrity Centres before leaving in 2005 because she did not like Miscavige. Scobee also knew Cruise well and hired his household staff (who were Scientologists) when he was married to Kidman.

    “Marty and Mike are irreplaceable,” says Scobee. “They were tough. They understood Scientology, and they knew how to take care of business. Scientology can hire all the lawyers they want now, but they won’t hold a candle to Marty and Mike. The people Miscavige needs to help him with the Tom and Katie mess are now on the outside working against them.”

    In response to previous reports in The Hollywood Reporter that cited Scobee’s accounts of her experiences, the church attacked her credibility, saying she was dismissed from the church for gross malfeasance.

    Hundreds of people including high-level leaders have left — or tried to leave — the Church of Scientology, especially in the past six to seven years, as dissatisfaction with Miscavige has intensified. Many defectors, most of whom remain loyal to Hubbard’s legacy and teachings, have accused Miscavige — variously in the press, in books and, in the case of Headley, in a lawsuit filed in 2009 — of being violent, of abusing adult and child labor laws at the Hemet base camp and of focusing too much on fund-raising.

    Even Rupert Murdoch tweeted this week that the church was “evil” and “creepy” in a move some saw as proof that the media should no longer fear reporting about the church. Fox News’ Geraldo Rivera followed the boss’ tweet with one of his own on Monday, asking, “Does Scientology have special program to provide cover for closeted gay superstars?”

    Holmes has not commented yet on why she decided to file for divorce from Cruise, but the actor’s camp has indicated it was Holmes’ decision. Cruise issued a statement saying he was “deeply saddened.”

    In contrast, Kidman has said that she was the one who was shocked by Cruise’s divorce petition in 2000, though she never took to Scientology during their 10-year marriage. She told Vanity Fair in 2002 that she was so upset by Cruise dumping her that she lay “crying in the fetal position on the floor” at one point.

    Unlike Kidman, who kept quiet during her divorce from Cruise and has rarely commented publicly about it since, Holmes already has made a statement of sorts by filing her petition in New York and saying she wants full legal custody and primary residential custody of their Suri.

    “Katie could blow Scientology wide open,” says Rathbun, who was in the church for 22 years before leaving in late 2004. Rathbun, who calls himself an “independent Scientologist” and writes a candid blog popular with former members, was Cruise’s auditor and handled Cruise’s divorce from Kidman.

    “If Tom’s smart, he won’t fight her on anything, even custody. He should just try to settle his way out of it,” says Rathbun. “She could press this sole-custody issue and litigate it, and that would be the biggest nightmare in the Church of Scientology’s history. It would be a circus they couldn’t survive.”

    When THR cited Rathbun’s experience with Scientology in a previous article, the church also attacked his credibility, focusing partly on alleged personal transgressions.

    In a statement regarding the defectors who spoke on the record to THR, Gary Soter, a Calabasas, Calif.-based attorney representing the organization, said: “All of these people are ex-communicated self-promoters who are sadly exploiting a private family matter for their own personal financial gain. The Church stands by its previous statements with respect to all of them. They cannot be believed given they have acquired no firsthand knowledge of the Church for many years and have a record of making false and/or misleading statements about the Church.”

    Says Headley, who was once the head of film and video production for Scientology: “The church may be underestimating Katie. She knows how to play Tom, and she’s been doing it brilliantly. She knows he’s locked down up in Iceland shooting his movie and he can’t fly back to the U.S. to handle this.”

    Cruise was filming Oblivion in Iceland but flew back to the U.S. on Tuesday, his 50th birthday. His longtime lawyer Bert Fields did not respond to requests for comment, but it has been reported that Cruise has hired Dennis Wasser to represent him in the divorce — the same attorney who represented him in the split from Kidman.

    When asked if the church is advising Cruise in this matter, Soter responded: “The Church doesn’t comment on any individual parishioner or his or her spiritual journey. This is a private matter, and it is inappropriate for comment. The Church has respected and will continue to respect the privacy of both parties during this difficult period.”

    Two former Scientologists who say they have a connection to both a member of the Holmes family and people still inside the church claim that Holmes’ family has been wary of Scientology from the start.

    One reason for their concern might have been that it is a common Scientology practice to order members to cut off or “disconnect” from family members who disapprove of the church.

    “Katie was monitored as if she lived under the Stasi,” says Rathbun. “It was not quite as bad for Nicole. But that’s how it is now.”

    Scientology Book Excerpt: ‘The Church Had John Travolta Trapped’
    8:30 AM PST 01/09/2013 by Lawrence Wright page 3

    Threats, a baby taken away, punishment: Extraordinary details of the tortured relationship between the actor and his handler, Spanky Taylor, as told by Pulitzer Prize-winning New Yorker writer Lawrence Wright in his revelatory new history of the controversial religion, excerpted exclusively in THR.

    This story first appeared in the Jan. 18 issue of The Hollywood Reporter magazine

    Before Tom Cruise, John Travolta was the biggest celebrity Scientologist, joining during the mid-’70s when he was on the cusp of fame. The Church assigned Sylvia “Spanky” Taylor, a young, vivacious Sea Org member, as his liaison. She became his friend and confidante, helping him deal with his breakout success in Welcome Back, Kotter (1975) and Saturday Night Fever (1977). Their friendship unraveled in 1977, when the Church sent Taylor to Rehabilitation Project Force (RPF), its disciplinary program, and took custody of her child for opposing its treatment of her mentor. Ultimately, Scientology officials forced her out of the Church, and Travolta ended their relationship as detailed by Pulitzer Prize-winning writer Lawrence Wright in this exclusive excerpt from his book Going Clear: Scientology, Hollywood, and the Prison of Belief.

    Although in the book, Wright provides detailed notes on his sources and extensive research over the years, representatives for the Church declined to grant him interviews. Karin Pouw of the Church, in a statement to THR, said, “Of the 200 people [Wright] spoke with, only 9 were Scientologists. … Most of the remaining 200 were apostates, many who have shopped similar false claims to the gossip media for years.” (Read Pouw’s complete response here.) — Andy Lewis

    “Spanky” was a schoolyard nickname for Sylvia, but it had such a teasing twist that she could never escape it. She was the child of Mexican-American laborers in San Jose, Calif. When she was 14, she became a fan of a local band called People!, which included several Scientologists, and began helping it with concert promotion. Soon she was working with some of the other great local bands, including Creedence Clearwater Revival. Scientology was just another expression of the political and cultural upheaval of the times. Even members of The Grateful Dead were drawn to its promise of mystical experiences without hallucinogens. She joined the staff at the Santa Clara mission in 1969, when she was 15.

    She was a cheerful young woman with warm brown eyes who called everyone “honey.” Because of her experience with promotion, she was posted to the Celebrity Centre in Los Angeles. The place was constantly buzzing with activity — tie-dyeing, fencing, poetry readings — and she loved it. Famous people were always passing through, which added to the sense that something fun and important was happening there. Spanky inevitably came to the notice of the Centre’s founder Yvonne Gillham, who arranged for her to work with high-profile followers.(1)

    One celebrity quickly took precedence. Travolta was in Mexico making his first film, The Devil’s Rain, a cheap horror movie starring Ernest Borgnine and William Shatner. He got to be friends with Joan Prather, who was one of the few castmembers his age. “He glommed on to me from day one,” she said. “He was extremely unhappy and not doing well.” Prather began talking about how much Scientology had helped her.(2)

    When he returned to Los Angeles, Travolta began taking the Hubbard Qualified Scientologist Course at the Celebrity Centre with about 150 other students. He confided to the teacher, Sandy Kent, that he was about to audition for a television show, Welcome Back, Kotter. Kent instructed everyone to point in the direction of ABC Studios and telepathically communicate the instruction: “We want John Travolta for the part.” At the next meeting, Travolta revealed he had gotten the role of Vinnie Barbarino — the part that would soon make him famous. “My career immediately took off,” Travolta boasted in a Church publication. “Scientology put me in the big time.” (3)

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    Although Travolta craved fame, he was taken aback by the clamor that came along with it. Spanky managed his relationship with his fans. She went to the tapings of his television show, accompanied him to his many public appearances, and persuaded Paramount Pictures to buy a large block of Scientology auditing for his birthday. She was his liaison with the Church. He introduced a number of fellow actors to Scientology, including Forest Whitaker, Tom Berenger and Patrick Swayze, as well as the great Russian dancer Mikhail Baryshnikov. (Travolta’s friend Priscilla Presley was the only one who actually stuck with the Church.) Spanky Taylor was a visible reminder of Travolta’s increasing devotion to Scientology as well as the Church’s investment in his fame, which could be jeopardized by the indiscreet behavior of a talented but entitled star. (4)

    In early 1977, Gillham fell ill. She complained of headaches and was losing weight. She wanted desperately to go to Scientology headquarters in Clearwater, Fla., where she could get the upper-level auditing she thought could cure her, but she was told there wasn’t money for that. Instead, she was sent on a mission to Mexico with her husband. On her 50th birthday, Oct. 20, 1977, while in Mexico, she suffered a stroke.

    Desperate to get Gillham the auditing she still thought she needed, Taylor went to the financial banking officer and begged her for the funds to send her friend to Clearwater. For her impertinence, Taylor was sentenced to RPF.

    Her new baby daughter, Vanessa, was taken away and placed in the Child Care Org, the Scientology nursery. There were 30 infants crammed into a small apartment with wall-to-wall cribs, with one nanny for every 12 children. It was dark and dank, and the children were rarely, if ever, taken outside.

    When she got the news she was being sent to RPF, Taylor cried, “You can’t do that now!” She was thinking of Travolta. He had just called her the day before, saying that he was arriving on an Air France flight after his appearance at a film festival in Deauville, where he was promoting Saturday Night Fever. Despite his triumph, Travolta appeared depressed and withdrawn. During the filming of Saturday Night Fever, his girlfriend, Diana Hyland, had died in his arms. She was two decades older than he — she played his mother in a made-for-TV movie, The Boy in the Plastic Bubble — and had already had a double mastectomy when they met. Their romance was doomed when her cancer recurred. Taylor had helped Travolta through that period of grief, but now his mother, the most important figure in his life, had also developed cancer. Travolta asked Taylor if she would pick him up at the airport. She promised him, “Wild horses wouldn’t keep me from being there!”

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    The Church officials now told Taylor that someone else would meet Travolta. Taylor knew the star would feel surprised and betrayed. He would immediately suspect that something terrible had happened and worry about her. Taylor was mortified to think that she would be the cause of his discomfort.

    The RPF had moved out of the basement up to the top floor of the old V-shaped building that formerly housed the Cedars of Lebanon Hospital. Nearly 200 people were crammed by the dozen into old patient rooms in bunks stacked three high. Because of the overcrowding,Taylor was given a soggy mattress on the roof. It was cold. She could hear the traffic on Sunset Boulevard only a block away. She had a view of the Hollywood Hills andthe endless lights of the wakeful city, which was throbbing all around her. So many young people like her had been pulled into the matrix of Hollywood glamour and fame, even if they would never enjoy it themselves. And now, here she was, in the heart of it — isolated, trapped, humiliated, an unnoticed speck on a rooftop. Who could believe that a person could be so lost in the middle of so much life?

    After six months, a pair of missionaries came to see Taylor with a strange request. “We would like you to arrange a private screening of Saturday Night Fever” to reward those in RPF. Getting to Travolta wasn’t easy, however. He was now the top box-office star in the world. The Church hierarchy was worried that he was also drifting away from Scientology. There was a problem. The movie was still being shown around the world, and all the prints were out. The only one available was Travolta’s copy, but his personal assistant Kate Edwards said she would make the request. “Johnny said if you ever called and needed something, just do it,” Edwards assured her.

    “You can’t tell John about this call!” Taylor said, embarrassed at being sent to RPF.

    “I’m going to have to tell him,” Edwards replied. “I’m going to have to ask him to borrow it.”

    Edwards told her that Travolta had agreed to loan Taylor the print, under one condition: that he could see her. The missionaries decided that as long as Taylor got the print, she could meet Travolta for dinner after the screening. (Travolta’s attorney denies that there was an agreement to visit Spanky in exchange for his personal copy of Saturday Night Fever.) Travolta followed up by sending flowers, which were delivered to Taylor in RPF.

    The screening took place on a Saturday night. As soon as the movie was over and the credits were rolling, several Scientology executives escorted Taylor to an office and told her to call Travolta and cancel their date for dinner the following night.

    “I can’t do that!” Taylor said.

    “There have been all sorts of efforts to recover him, and we can’t let you get in the way of that,” an official told her. “Call him right now.”

    Travolta was furious when he heard what she had to say. “We had a deal!” he said.“How could you do this?” he demanded.

    “How could you leave your baby?” For the first time in their relationship, he raised his voice. “My mother died, and you weren’t there!”( Travolta’s mother died from cancer in December 1978.)

    Taylor began to bawl so hard she couldn’t speak. She recalled that Travolta was asking questions she couldn’t answer, questions she had been afraid to pose herself. He seemed to know what she was going through. “Unless you killed somebody, which I don’t think you did, there’s no reason for you to be where you are,” Travolta told her. His frankness was devastating.

    “I’m doing this so I can be better!” Taylor sobbed. “So I can help you more.”

    Meanwhile, a Scientology official was jabbing his finger at her and mouthing an order to hang up the phone. She quickly said goodbye and set the phone in the cradle. Then she was escorted back to RPF.

    All that night she cried and cried, but when the sun came up, she was flooded with clarity.“I am so f—ing out of here!” she decided. “I don’t know how, but I’m getting out.”

    It wasn’t obvious how she could escape. She had been placed in RPF in March; now it was September. She didn’t know where to turn. It didn’t occur to her to call her parents because she was so apprehensive that she might bring shame on Scientology if anybody knew what had happened to her. Even if she did escape, she realized, she actually knew very little about what was going on in the world. Since she had joined Scientology at the age of 14, she had never read a book that hadn’t been written by Hubbard.

    Taylor managed to slip away to visit her 10-month-old daughter in the Child Care Org across the street. To her horror, she discovered that Vanessa had contracted whooping cough, which is highly contagious and occasionally fatal. The baby’s eyes were welded shut with mucus, and her diaper was wet — in fact, her whole crib was soaking. She was covered with fruit flies.

    She finally conceived a plan. Explaining to her guards that she had to telephone the doctor, she managed a brief call to Travolta’s office and asked Edwards to meet her the next day at a certain time, giving the address of the Child Care Org. She hung up without even hearing Edwards’ response.

    The next day, she was allowed a brief visit to the nursery. She had an extra diaper, a toothbrush and four dimes, all the money she had in the world. Fortunately, Edwards arrived, right on time. Lying, Taylor explained to her Scientology escort that Edwards washer sister-in-law who had come to take Vanessa to the doctor.“

    “Is this approved?” he asked.

    “Oh, absolutely!” Taylor opened Edwards’ door and handed her the baby.

    Then, under her breath, she added, “Kate, when I shut this door, please drive away as quickly as you can.” Edwards nodded, then Taylor jumped in. Edwards hit the gas.

    Edwards checked them in to the Tropicana Hotel on Santa Monica Boulevard, but the next morning three Sea Org executives found her and brought her back to RPF.

    Taylor still believed in the revelations of her religion. She worried that her salvation was at stake. But she was also gripped with fear that her baby and her unborn child (Taylor had accidentally gotten pregnant again during a conjugal visit with her husband early in her time in RPF) were in mortal danger. At first, she was firm in telling the men that she wasn’t coming back. They told her that they hated to see her be declared a Suppressive Person and cut off from any other Scientologist — nearly everyone she knew. There was a proper way to “route out,” they reminded her. Eventually, Taylor agreed to return to the office to file the paperwork that would allow her to leave the Sea Org (with her child) on good terms and still be a Scientologist.

    Many former Sea Org members found their departure from the Church to be tangled in confusion, panic, grief and conflicting loyalties. Many still cling to a relationship with the Church. A year after leaving the Sea Org, she traveled to Houston to meet with Travolta. He was filming Urban Cowboy. On her own initiative, she came to “recover” him for the Church. She had heard he was having problems in his life, and she worried that her own troubles had prevented him from turning to the Church for help. It was also possible that if she brought Travolta back into the fold, her standing in the Church would be improved.

    Like most celebrities, Travolta had been shielded from the Church’s inner workings. The scandals that periodically erupted in the press about Hubbard’s biography, or his disappearance,or the Church’s use of private investigators and the courts to harass critics —these things rarely touched the awareness of Scientology luminaries. It was easy enough to chalk such revelations up to religious persecution or yellow journalism. “There are two sides to the story, but I don’t know both sides,” Travolta blithely said.

    He and Taylor met in the evening, after dinner, over a plate of chocolate chip cookies that she had brought. She explained that she had left the Sea Org and was with her two children now, then quickly changed the subject and asked about him. He described the problems he was having.

    Former Scientologists have given conflicting accounts of Travolta’s stressful relationship with the Church at that time. The Church hierarchy was desperately concerned that details about the private matters of their most valuable member would be revealed; at the same time, the hierarchy was prepared touse those details against him. Bill Franks, the Church’s former executive director, told Time magazine that in Franks’ opinion, the Church had Travolta trapped. At one point, the star sought assurance from Franks that his private confessions wouldn’t be used against him. In truth, intelligence officers inside the Church had already been directed to gather material — called a Dead Agent pack — that would be used against Travolta if he turned.(5)

    In Houston, however, Travolta told Taylor that he didn’t really feel that he needed to be recovered — he was just taking a break. However, Taylor did persuade him to buy a costly package of auditing. He had stopped his course work after completing OT III.

    After that, she received a letter from Hubbard saying, “Well done.” The founder asked if there was anything she needed. She asked nothing for herself but begged Hubbard to do a “Folder Error Summary” on Travolta, in which the founder would personally review all the star’s auditing over the years — considered a tremendous honor within Scientology.

    Still, not long afterward, Travolta stopped talking to Taylor. She got a call from Priscilla Presley, who had run into Travolta, and he said that they should get together. “I’ll call Spanky,” Presley had told him.

    “No, don’t go through Spanky,” Travolta said.

    When Spanky heard this, she realized she had been declared a Suppressive Person — a nonentity — despite her efforts to remain in the Church’s good graces. Nobody had bothered to tell her, but from now on, no Scientologist would be allowed to talk to her. (6)

    After leaving the Church, Taylor started her own business and raised her children, who never joined the religion. Her ex-husband is still a Scientologist. She has never spoken publicly about her experiences until now.

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    8:30 AM PST 01/09/2013 by Lawrence Wright page4

    Threats, a baby taken away, punishment: Extraordinary details of the tortured relationship between the actor and his handler, Spanky Taylor, as told by Pulitzer Prize-winning New Yorker writer Lawrence Wright in his revelatory new history of the controversial religion, excerpted exclusively in THR.
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    This story first appeared in the Jan. 18 issue of The Hollywood Reporter magazine

    Before Tom Cruise, John Travolta was the biggest celebrity Scientologist, joining during the mid-’70s when he was on the cusp of fame. The Church assigned Sylvia “Spanky” Taylor, a young, vivacious Sea Org member, as his liaison. She became his friend and confidante, helping him deal with his breakout success in Welcome Back, Kotter (1975) and Saturday Night Fever (1977). Their friendship unraveled in 1977, when the Church sent Taylor to Rehabilitation Project Force (RPF), its disciplinary program, and took custody of her child for opposing its treatment of her mentor. Ultimately, Scientology officials forced her out of the Church, and Travolta ended their relationship as detailed by Pulitzer Prize-winning writer Lawrence Wright in this exclusive excerpt from his book Going Clear: Scientology, Hollywood, and the Prison of Belief.

    Although in the book, Wright provides detailed notes on his sources and extensive research over the years, representatives for the Church declined to grant him interviews. Karin Pouw of the Church, in a statement to THR, said, “Of the 200 people [Wright] spoke with, only 9 were Scientologists. … Most of the remaining 200 were apostates, many who have shopped similar false claims to the gossip media for years.” (Read Pouw’s complete response here.) — Andy Lewis

    “Spanky” was a schoolyard nickname for Sylvia, but it had such a teasing twist that she could never escape it. She was the child of Mexican-American laborers in San Jose, Calif. When she was 14, she became a fan of a local band called People!, which included several Scientologists, and began helping it with concert promotion. Soon she was working with some of the other great local bands, including Creedence Clearwater Revival. Scientology was just another expression of the political and cultural upheaval of the times. Even members of The Grateful Dead were drawn to its promise of mystical experiences without hallucinogens. She joined the staff at the Santa Clara mission in 1969, when she was 15.

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    She was a cheerful young woman with warm brown eyes who called everyone “honey.” Because of her experience with promotion, she was posted to the Celebrity Centre in Los Angeles. The place was constantly buzzing with activity — tie-dyeing, fencing, poetry readings — and she loved it. Famous people were always passing through, which added to the sense that something fun and important was happening there. Spanky inevitably came to the notice of the Centre’s founder Yvonne Gillham, who arranged for her to work with high-profile followers.(1)

    One celebrity quickly took precedence. Travolta was in Mexico making his first film, The Devil’s Rain, a cheap horror movie starring Ernest Borgnine and William Shatner. He got to be friends with Joan Prather, who was one of the few castmembers his age. “He glommed on to me from day one,” she said. “He was extremely unhappy and not doing well.” Prather began talking about how much Scientology had helped her.(2)

    When he returned to Los Angeles, Travolta began taking the Hubbard Qualified Scientologist Course at the Celebrity Centre with about 150 other students. He confided to the teacher, Sandy Kent, that he was about to audition for a television show, Welcome Back, Kotter. Kent instructed everyone to point in the direction of ABC Studios and telepathically communicate the instruction: “We want John Travolta for the part.” At the next meeting, Travolta revealed he had gotten the role of Vinnie Barbarino — the part that would soon make him famous. “My career immediately took off,” Travolta boasted in a Church publication. “Scientology put me in the big time.” (3)

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    Although Travolta craved fame, he was taken aback by the clamor that came along with it. Spanky managed his relationship with his fans. She went to the tapings of his television show, accompanied him to his many public appearances, and persuaded Paramount Pictures to buy a large block of Scientology auditing for his birthday. She was his liaison with the Church. He introduced a number of fellow actors to Scientology, including Forest Whitaker, Tom Berenger and Patrick Swayze, as well as the great Russian dancer Mikhail Baryshnikov. (Travolta’s friend Priscilla Presley was the only one who actually stuck with the Church.) Spanky Taylor was a visible reminder of Travolta’s increasing devotion to Scientology as well as the Church’s investment in his fame, which could be jeopardized by the indiscreet behavior of a talented but entitled star. (4)

    In early 1977, Gillham fell ill. She complained of headaches and was losing weight. She wanted desperately to go to Scientology headquarters in Clearwater, Fla., where she could get the upper-level auditing she thought could cure her, but she was told there wasn’t money for that. Instead, she was sent on a mission to Mexico with her husband. On her 50th birthday, Oct. 20, 1977, while in Mexico, she suffered a stroke.

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    Desperate to get Gillham the auditing she still thought she needed, Taylor went to the financial banking officer and begged her for the funds to send her friend to Clearwater. For her impertinence, Taylor was sentenced to RPF.

    Her new baby daughter, Vanessa, was taken away and placed in the Child Care Org, the Scientology nursery. There were 30 infants crammed into a small apartment with wall-to-wall cribs, with one nanny for every 12 children. It was dark and dank, and the children were rarely, if ever, taken outside.

    When she got the news she was being sent to RPF, Taylor cried, “You can’t do that now!” She was thinking of Travolta. He had just called her the day before, saying that he was arriving on an Air France flight after his appearance at a film festival in Deauville, where he was promoting Saturday Night Fever. Despite his triumph, Travolta appeared depressed and withdrawn. During the filming of Saturday Night Fever, his girlfriend, Diana Hyland, had died in his arms. She was two decades older than he — she played his mother in a made-for-TV movie, The Boy in the Plastic Bubble — and had already had a double mastectomy when they met. Their romance was doomed when her cancer recurred. Taylor had helped Travolta through that period of grief, but now his mother, the most important figure in his life, had also developed cancer. Travolta asked Taylor if she would pick him up at the airport. She promised him, “Wild horses wouldn’t keep me from being there!”

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    The Church officials now told Taylor that someone else would meet Travolta. Taylor knew the star would feel surprised and betrayed. He would immediately suspect that something terrible had happened and worry about her. Taylor was mortified to think that she would be the cause of his discomfort.

    The RPF had moved out of the basement up to the top floor of the old V-shaped building that formerly housed the Cedars of Lebanon Hospital. Nearly 200 people were crammed by the dozen into old patient rooms in bunks stacked three high. Because of the overcrowding,Taylor was given a soggy mattress on the roof. It was cold. She could hear the traffic on Sunset Boulevard only a block away. She had a view of the Hollywood Hills andthe endless lights of the wakeful city, which was throbbing all around her. So many young people like her had been pulled into the matrix of Hollywood glamour and fame, even if they would never enjoy it themselves. And now, here she was, in the heart of it — isolated, trapped, humiliated, an unnoticed speck on a rooftop. Who could believe that a person could be so lost in the middle of so much life?

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    After six months, a pair of missionaries came to see Taylor with a strange request. “We would like you to arrange a private screening of Saturday Night Fever” to reward those in RPF. Getting to Travolta wasn’t easy, however. He was now the top box-office star in the world. The Church hierarchy was worried that he was also drifting away from Scientology. There was a problem. The movie was still being shown around the world, and all the prints were out. The only one available was Travolta’s copy, but his personal assistant Kate Edwards said she would make the request. “Johnny said if you ever called and needed something, just do it,” Edwards assured her.

    “You can’t tell John about this call!” Taylor said, embarrassed at being sent to RPF.

    “I’m going to have to tell him,” Edwards replied. “I’m going to have to ask him to borrow it.”

    Edwards told her that Travolta had agreed to loan Taylor the print, under one condition: that he could see her. The missionaries decided that as long as Taylor got the print, she could meet Travolta for dinner after the screening. (Travolta’s attorney denies that there was an agreement to visit Spanky in exchange for his personal copy of Saturday Night Fever.) Travolta followed up by sending flowers, which were delivered to Taylor in RPF.

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    The screening took place on a Saturday night. As soon as the movie was over and the credits were rolling, several Scientology executives escorted Taylor to an office and told her to call Travolta and cancel their date for dinner the following night.

    “I can’t do that!” Taylor said.

    “There have been all sorts of efforts to recover him, and we can’t let you get in the way of that,” an official told her. “Call him right now.”

    Travolta was furious when he heard what she had to say. “We had a deal!” he said.“How could you do this?” he demanded.

    “How could you leave your baby?” For the first time in their relationship, he raised his voice. “My mother died, and you weren’t there!”( Travolta’s mother died from cancer in December 1978.)

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    Taylor began to bawl so hard she couldn’t speak. She recalled that Travolta was asking questions she couldn’t answer, questions she had been afraid to pose herself. He seemed to know what she was going through. “Unless you killed somebody, which I don’t think you did, there’s no reason for you to be where you are,” Travolta told her. His frankness was devastating.

    “I’m doing this so I can be better!” Taylor sobbed. “So I can help you more.”

    Meanwhile, a Scientology official was jabbing his finger at her and mouthing an order to hang up the phone. She quickly said goodbye and set the phone in the cradle. Then she was escorted back to RPF.

    All that night she cried and cried, but when the sun came up, she was flooded with clarity.“I am so f—ing out of here!” she decided. “I don’t know how, but I’m getting out.”

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    It wasn’t obvious how she could escape. She had been placed in RPF in March; now it was September. She didn’t know where to turn. It didn’t occur to her to call her parents because she was so apprehensive that she might bring shame on Scientology if anybody knew what had happened to her. Even if she did escape, she realized, she actually knew very little about what was going on in the world. Since she had joined Scientology at the age of 14, she had never read a book that hadn’t been written by Hubbard.

    Taylor managed to slip away to visit her 10-month-old daughter in the Child Care Org across the street. To her horror, she discovered that Vanessa had contracted whooping cough, which is highly contagious and occasionally fatal. The baby’s eyes were welded shut with mucus, and her diaper was wet — in fact, her whole crib was soaking. She was covered with fruit flies.

    She finally conceived a plan. Explaining to her guards that she had to telephone the doctor, she managed a brief call to Travolta’s office and asked Edwards to meet her the next day at a certain time, giving the address of the Child Care Org. She hung up without even hearing Edwards’ response.

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    The next day, she was allowed a brief visit to the nursery. She had an extra diaper, a toothbrush and four dimes, all the money she had in the world. Fortunately, Edwards arrived, right on time. Lying, Taylor explained to her Scientology escort that Edwards washer sister-in-law who had come to take Vanessa to the doctor.“

    “Is this approved?” he asked.

    “Oh, absolutely!” Taylor opened Edwards’ door and handed her the baby.

    Then, under her breath, she added, “Kate, when I shut this door, please drive away as quickly as you can.” Edwards nodded, then Taylor jumped in. Edwards hit the gas.

    Edwards checked them in to the Tropicana Hotel on Santa Monica Boulevard, but the next morning three Sea Org executives found her and brought her back to RPF.

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    Taylor still believed in the revelations of her religion. She worried that her salvation was at stake. But she was also gripped with fear that her baby and her unborn child (Taylor had accidentally gotten pregnant again during a conjugal visit with her husband early in her time in RPF) were in mortal danger. At first, she was firm in telling the men that she wasn’t coming back. They told her that they hated to see her be declared a Suppressive Person and cut off from any other Scientologist — nearly everyone she knew. There was a proper way to “route out,” they reminded her. Eventually, Taylor agreed to return to the office to file the paperwork that would allow her to leave the Sea Org (with her child) on good terms and still be a Scientologist.

    Many former Sea Org members found their departure from the Church to be tangled in confusion, panic, grief and conflicting loyalties. Many still cling to a relationship with the Church. A year after leaving the Sea Org, she traveled to Houston to meet with Travolta. He was filming Urban Cowboy. On her own initiative, she came to “recover” him for the Church. She had heard he was having problems in his life, and she worried that her own troubles had prevented him from turning to the Church for help. It was also possible that if she brought Travolta back into the fold, her standing in the Church would be improved.

    Like most celebrities, Travolta had been shielded from the Church’s inner workings. The scandals that periodically erupted in the press about Hubbard’s biography, or his disappearance,or the Church’s use of private investigators and the courts to harass critics —these things rarely touched the awareness of Scientology luminaries. It was easy enough to chalk such revelations up to religious persecution or yellow journalism. “There are two sides to the story, but I don’t know both sides,” Travolta blithely said.

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    He and Taylor met in the evening, after dinner, over a plate of chocolate chip cookies that she had brought. She explained that she had left the Sea Org and was with her two children now, then quickly changed the subject and asked about him. He described the problems he was having.

    Former Scientologists have given conflicting accounts of Travolta’s stressful relationship with the Church at that time. The Church hierarchy was desperately concerned that details about the private matters of their most valuable member would be revealed; at the same time, the hierarchy was prepared touse those details against him. Bill Franks, the Church’s former executive director, told Time magazine that in Franks’ opinion, the Church had Travolta trapped. At one point, the star sought assurance from Franks that his private confessions wouldn’t be used against him. In truth, intelligence officers inside the Church had already been directed to gather material — called a Dead Agent pack — that would be used against Travolta if he turned.(5)

    In Houston, however, Travolta told Taylor that he didn’t really feel that he needed to be recovered — he was just taking a break. However, Taylor did persuade him to buy a costly package of auditing. He had stopped his course work after completing OT III.

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    After that, she received a letter from Hubbard saying, “Well done.” The founder asked if there was anything she needed. She asked nothing for herself but begged Hubbard to do a “Folder Error Summary” on Travolta, in which the founder would personally review all the star’s auditing over the years — considered a tremendous honor within Scientology.

    Still, not long afterward, Travolta stopped talking to Taylor. She got a call from Priscilla Presley, who had run into Travolta, and he said that they should get together. “I’ll call Spanky,” Presley had told him.

    “No, don’t go through Spanky,” Travolta said.

    When Spanky heard this, she realized she had been declared a Suppressive Person — a nonentity — despite her efforts to remain in the Church’s good graces. Nobody had bothered to tell her, but from now on, no Scientologist would be allowed to talk to her. (6)

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    After leaving the Church, Taylor started her own business and raised her children, who never joined the religion. Her ex-husband is still a Scientologist. She has never spoken publicly about her experiences until now.

    Excerpted from Going Clear by Lawrence Wright. Copyright (c) 2013 by Lawrence Wright. Excerpted by permission of Knopf, a division of Random House, Inc. All rights reserved.

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  132. joanne said on November 25th, 2014 at 12:03 am

    @morris maltenburg:
    he did try for universal care. bush jr came to scranton pennsylvania because he too wanted to expand the railroad. I watch healthcare go down for years and the price go up.

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  133. morris maltenburg said on November 25th, 2014 at 3:11 pm

    Chuck Schumer: Passing Obamacare in 2010 Was a Mistake
    The Senate’s No. 3 Democrat says that his party misused its mandate.
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    November 25, 2014 Sen. Chuck Schumer upbraided his own party Tuesday for pushing the Affordable Care Act through Congress in 2010.

    While Schumer emphasized during a speech at the National Press Club that he supports the law and that its policies “are and will continue to be positive changes,” he argued that the Democrats acted wrongly in using their new mandate after the 2008 election to focus on the issue rather than the economy at the height of a terrible recession.

    “After passing the stimulus, Democrats should have continued to propose middle-class-oriented programs and built on the partial success of the stimulus, but unfortunately Democrats blew the opportunity the American people gave them,” Schumer said. “We took their mandate and put all of our focus on the wrong problem—health care reform.”

    The third-ranking Senate Democrat noted that just about 5 percent of registered voters in the United States lacked health insurance before the implementation of the law, arguing that to focus on a problem affecting such “a small percentage of the electoral made no political sense.”

    The larger problem, affecting most Americans, he said, was a poor economy resulting from the recession. “When Democrats focused on health care, the average middle-class person thought, ‘The Democrats aren’t paying enough attention to me,’ ” Schumer said.

    The health care law should have come later, Schumer argued, after Democrats had passed legislation to help the middle class weather the recession. Had Democrats pushed economic legislation, he said, “the middle class would have been more receptive to the idea that President Obama wanted to help them” and, in turn, they would have been more receptive to the health care law.

    Schumer said he told fellow Democrats in the lead-up to the passage of the Affordable Care Act that it was the wrong time to pass the law.

    “People thought—and I understand this—lots of people thought this was the only time to do this, it’s very important to do. And we should have done it. We just shouldn’t have done it first,” he said. “We were in the middle of a recession. People were hurting and saying, ‘What about me? I’m losing my job. It’s not health care that bothers me. What about me?’ … About 85 percent of all Americans were fine with their health care in 2009, mainly because it was paid for by either the government or their employer, private sector. So they weren’t clamoring. The average middle-class voter, they weren’t opposed to doing health care when it started out, but it wasn’t at the top of the agenda.”

    Schumer blamed the push for the Affordable Care Act so early in Obama’s first term for the rise of the tea-party movement, which destroyed the Democratic majority in the House in 2010 and went on to—long with a number of other missteps by the federal government, including implementation of the law—oust the Democratic majority in the Senate as well in 2014.

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  134. morris maltenburg said on November 25th, 2014 at 3:31 pm

    Yup….when you read about that fucker head fuck bag Top Kuntster stating “If Arnold can become Governor I should be President,” that literally says it all. That low life sack of crap actually believes that he should lead the nation. The day that sack of shit drops dead I’ll dance a Scot Irish Jig.

    Like I said, this jerk wad aspires to the presidency and wants to implement Scieno Faggotology, and RPF.

    JUST REMEMBER DEAR READERS, RPF, REHABILITATION PROJECT FORCE, IS NOT THE AMERICAN JUDICIAL SYSTEM, NOR IS SEA ORG, OR THE OSA “OFFICE OF SPECIAL AFFAIRS.” RPF IS THE SCIENO PRIVATE GULAG AND THEIR INTERNAL FORM OF PRIVATE PENAL SYSTEM, ALONG WITH THEIR PRIVATE INSANE ASYLUMS IN OREGON.

    THEY VIOLATE EVERY TENET IN THE CONSTITUTION, AND BILL OF RIGHTS, ALONG WITH 50 SETS OF STATE LAWS. EVERYONE OF THESE ASSHOLES SHOULD HAVE BEEN VERY SERIOUSLY CRIMINALLY CHARGED, PROSECUTED, CONVICTED, AND GIVEN EXTREMELY LONG PRISON SENTENCES. MANY PEOPLE HAVE DISAPPEARED NEVER TO BE SEEN AGAIN, AND MANY HAVE DIED, OR BEEN OUT RIGHT MURDERED. THAT LOW LIFE TOP KUNTSTER NEEDS TO GO DOWN SO HARD HIS TWIST RIGHT THE FUCK OFF. THESE ASSHOLES ARE CRIMINALS, PERIOD.

    This is what’s wrong with our country…. low life sacks of HW garbage actually believing they are better than everyone else, when they’re not.

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  135. morris maltenburg said on November 25th, 2014 at 3:41 pm

    Bubonic Plague Spreads in Madagascar
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    Madagascar said Monday it was trying to contain an outbreak of plague — similar to the Black Death that swept medieval Europe — that has killed 47 people and is spreading to the capital Antananarivo.

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    The health ministry said there had been 138 suspected cases since the beginning of the year and warned that the death toll was likely to rise in coming months.

    Two people have been infected in Antananarivo, one of them dying, and health workers have mounted a pest control campaign through slum areas around the city, the World Health Organization (WHO) said.
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    The health ministry’s secretary general, Philemon Tafangy, said “two hundred households have been disinfected” this month.

    He said those who had contact with the infected had been given antibiotics in a bid to arrest the spread the disease.

    The WHO last week said 40 people had died as a result of plague, which was first identified in August.
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    Plague is spread by fleas and mostly affects rats, but humans can also contract the disease if they are bitten by a disease-carrying flea.

    The bubonic form prompts swelling of the lymph node, but can be treated with antibiotics. The pneumonic version, affecting the lungs, can be spread from person to person through coughing and can kill within 24 hours.

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    In Ankasina, a slum outside Antananarivo, the family of the young woman who died from the plague said they have been stigmatized by the community.

    According to Bernadette Rasoarimanana, the mother of the deceased woman, community members have been giving them “dirty looks” since the death of her daughter.

    Residents of the poor and overcrowded slum speak of squalid conditions, infested with rats, increasing the risk of infection.

    “Our neighborhood is really dirty and has been neglected by the state for a long time,” she said.
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    Plague often breaks out in the vast island nation, and is usually at its worst between October and March.

    The last case of plague in the capital was 10 years ago, said Christophe Rogier, of the island’s Institut Pasteur.

    “It is possible that the plague continued to survive in Antananarivo for 10 years without touching humans,” with the virus restricted to its rat population, he said. “Rats are a natural reservoir of the plague, and they also survive the plague.”
    Top 10 Animals That Carry Flu

    According to the International Committee of the Red Cross, the country has recorded on average 500 cases of plague every year since 2009.

    The Black Death, otherwise known as the bubonic plague, is estimated to have killed some 25 million people across Europe in the Middle Ages.

    The first outbreak of plague occurred in China more than 2,600 years ago before reaching Europe via Central Asia’s “Silk Road” trade route, according to a study of the disease’s DNA signature.

    The findings flesh out long-held suspicions about the Chinese origins of the plague, which killed an estimated third of Europe’s population in the Middle Ages.

    An international team of scientists sequenced 17 strains of Y. pestis, building a genetic “family tree” of pathogens that mutated from a common ancestor.

    “The results indicate that plague appeared in China more than 2,600 years ago,” France’s Museum of Natural History, which took part in the research, said.

    It then spread towards Western Europe along the Silk Road, starting more than 600 years ago, and then to Africa, probably by an expedition led by Chinese seafarer Zhang He in the 15th century, it said.

    Plague came to the United States from China via Hawaii in the late 19th century, according to the molecular evidence.

    It arrived in California through the ports of San Francisco and Los Angeles before heading inland.

    “The work highlights specific mutations in the bacterium showing how the germ evolved within given geographical regions,” the museum said in a press release. “But it demonstrates in particular that successive epidemic waves originated as a whole in Central Asia and China.”

    The investigation could be useful for tracing the origins of other feared bacteria, including anthrax and tuberculosis, it added.

    The study, published online on Sunday by the journal Nature Genetics, was led by Mark Achtman of University College Cork in Ireland. Scientists from Britain, China, France, Germany, Madagascar and the United States also took part.

    The natural reservoir for Y. pestis is species of rodents, including rats. The bacterium is transmitted via fleas who take a blood meal from an infected animal and pass it on when they bite a human.

    The resulting infection of the lymph glands is called bubonic plague.

    A more virulent but less common form of the disease is pneumonic plague. It occurs from humans to humans, when someone initially infected with bubonic plague transmits the bacteria through airborne droplets in coughs.

    Black Death Blamed on Bacteria
    Nov 27, 2012 03:00 AM ET // by AFP

    THE GIST

    - Bacteria were responsible for the black death, according to a new study, confirming a long-held theory.

    - The bacteria, Yersinia pestis, was found in samples of bones and teeth from plague victims.

    - The plague initially sprung up in 1347 and spread across Europe, causing massive social and political repercussions.

    Anthropologists said on Friday they had confirmed long-running suspicions that a germ called Yersinia pestis caused the plague that wiped out an estimated third of Europe’s population in the Middle Ages.

    Teeth and bones sampled from 76 skeletons found in “plague pits” in France, Germany, Italy and the Netherlands and sequenced for DNA intrusion are conclusive evidence that Y. pestis was to blame, they said.

    Y. pestis has been in the dock for more than a century as the source of so-called Black Death, which gripped Europe in successive outbreaks from the 14th to the 18th century.

    But scientific data to convict the bacterium have until now been sketchy or debatable.

    As a result, a clutch of rival theories have blossomed, including the contention that an Ebola-style virus or the anthrax germ were to blame.

    The study, published in the open-access journal PLoS Pathogens, also sheds unexpected light on the geographical route taken by the germ, which is believed to have originated in central or southern Asia before arriving in Europe through trade.

    “The history of this pandemic is much more complicated than we had previously thought,” said Stephanie Haensch, a co-leader of the research, at Johannes Gutenberg University in Mainz, Germany.

    In samples where Y. pestis genes were found, the researchers ran a test for 20 DNA markers to identify a particular bacterial strain.

    They wanted to see if there was a match for either of two types of Y. pestis that are still knocking around the world today, in parts of Africa, America, the Middle East and in the former Soviet Union.

    But neither of these modern types, known as Orientalis and Medievalis, showed up.

    Instead, two unknown types were found, both of them older than today’s strains and different from each other.

    The map of Y. pestis’ death march in Western Europe starts in November 1347, presumably driven by fleas living on rats which crept on land from a merchant ship docked at the Mediterranean French port of Marseille.

    Over the next six years, it then spread through western France to northern France and then over to England, again through commerce.

    However, a different strain was found in a mass grave in Bergen op Zoom, a port in the southern Netherlands.

    This suggests Y. pestis also entered Europe from the north, perhaps from Norway and via Friesland, a northern Dutch province.

    After the initial surge from 1347, the pandemic progressively spread around the continent, inflicting a toll that had massive social and political repercussions.

    “Our findings indicate that the plague traveled to Europe over at least two channels, which then went their separate ways,” said fellow investigator Barbara Bramanti.

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  136. joanne said on November 25th, 2014 at 4:33 pm

    @morris maltenburg:
    no one would miss me if i were put in one of those. i actually felt lie i was in one for a year, called and prayed for help. no one came but my friends prayers worked. :)

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  137. joanne said on November 25th, 2014 at 4:37 pm

    @morris maltenburg:
    those low lifes get awards, abuse their kids in public, get skies and places close so they can shop and praised by the media and the sheep. how many believe we were dumbed down? i just wish those fuckers would get better taste in the trash they shove down our throats.

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  138. Keane said on November 25th, 2014 at 4:44 pm

    TEAM FAGGOT!!!!!!!

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  139. Keane said on November 25th, 2014 at 5:35 pm

    @Guest2:

    Yes it’s good promo from the Ange and the Brad – good acting skills as well. Ange should be nominated for a gong for best use of sour-face (conveniently directed towards the camera) and Brad for best gesticulations during an argument scene. LOL

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  140. Keane said on November 25th, 2014 at 5:37 pm

    OMG she’s pulling out all the stops isn’t she? Love the queen-ly get-up!

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2849263/Cream-crop-Angelina-Jolie-dresses-weather-silk-ensemble-UK-premiere-Unbroken-London-s-West-End.html

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  141. Keane said on November 25th, 2014 at 5:39 pm

    @Keane:

    Not to mention the Remembrance Day poppy – nothing like using a bit of strongly held sentiment for our armed forces to flog a film is there?!

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  142. Keane said on November 25th, 2014 at 5:42 pm

    Good comment on TDM article:

    Her husband, her children, refugees around the world, the military… everything and everyone is used in the name of me, me, me. “Her” film was made using the talent of others (screenwriters, editor, cinematographer…) and it’s still not enough to be good. She had to fordid critics to see it before the release and launch a blitz PR krieg to sell it. I hope the world wake up before this high school drop-out become president of the USA.

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  143. Keane said on November 25th, 2014 at 5:57 pm

    @Keane:

    Come on Angelina sell it, sell this baby as if it’s the last thing you do on this earth. Get them Chelsea Pensioners out, and where’s the children, can you bring the adopted ones too? We’ve staged an argument with Brad on the balcony so all we need now is rumours of a flirtation with one of the actors (keep pawing that poor Jack fella: check) and possibly another honorary dame hood or some sort of photo opp with some refugees to finish it off. Maybe Ange can look misty-eyed yet determined while holding the hand of a victim of Ebola in Sierra Leone – no wait, that would entail actually putting our Ange in danger, scratch that, why not scoot her over to Turkey for a photo opp with some refugees from Syria instead – much less risky! Now what else have we got: toy shop with two of the currently best-behaving kids smiling gamely, we’ve done that, rumours of retirement from acting (I don’t think it’s really called retiring when you can’t book a job – more like unemployment – but anyway!) we’ve done that, we’ve already discussed refugees, um, um, oh I know how about a release of some secret supposedly racy but in fact totally innocent and made to make Angie look like such a sweet, nice person, footage of our main gal in her wild child years? Great, let’s get on to that and drop it in the press tomorrow to deflect from all those none-too-effusive reviews of her new flick – can’t go wrong!

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  144. WC Kitty said on November 25th, 2014 at 6:18 pm

    @Keane:
    I wonder what her lie will be for getting caught smoking when she did her me, me, me cancer scare tabloid queen attention that led to her having a mastectomy (cough-cough).
    http://www.femalefirst.co.uk/board/viewtopic.php?f=40&t=654123

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  145. Keane said on November 25th, 2014 at 6:26 pm

    @WC Kitty:

    I think it was all planned and probably designed to highlight how “stressed” they both are as a couple. It’s also a nice tie-in for promo of the next film which is about the stresses of a marriage – how neat! The headlines will read: “Stresses of playing a couple whose marriage is
    falling apart leads to real life stress for Brad and Ange” (yeah right). Then Angie will probably drop an ad for an anti-smoking patch or e-cigarettes as tie-in. Oh wait, here’s Ange talking at the premiere of her film about Syria – like clockwork!

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  146. Keane said on November 25th, 2014 at 6:29 pm

    OMG and now she’s talking about entering politics and whether or not Hillary Clinton will make a good President!

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  147. Keane said on November 25th, 2014 at 6:30 pm

    @Keane:

    Check!

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  148. WC Kitty said on November 25th, 2014 at 6:38 pm

    @Keane:
    You’re probably right as she had to know that the paps with their far-reaching lens would catch them. She really is putting it all out there, including how she is going to be a better wife and learn how to cook (where have we heard that before?) :roll: Good cooks love to eat and somehow I don’t think the family is going to be impressed with her cooking abilities when it come to her opening a bag of bird seed, pack of cigarettes, bottle of Grey Goose, and whatever else she is into.

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  149. Keane said on November 25th, 2014 at 6:56 pm

    OMG she is totally vying to be the first female President as well!!!! When asked whether she thought Hillary Clinton was the person to increase female representation in the White House she said “I think we need to increase female representation in the White House, but whether Hillary Clinton is the right woman to represent us I don’t know” or words to that effect – classic!!! What she was really saying was “if that woman beats me to the White House I will scratch her eyes out, it’s ME goddam it, it’s ME!” If I were the Clintons I would be looking into that who really fathered Angelina’s twins story stat – one sure fire way to prevent her ever troubling the White House! In other news Angelina has announced plans to buy a home in England – I’m thinking potentially to put in a bid for the role of Queen of England once that job gets vacated and try to overshadow Kate Middleton’s crown by any chance? Looking back on it I wonder if that “honorary dame hood” was an attempt to steal a bit of Kate Middleton’s thunder as we know she is a threat to Ange. You know, to be a bit, see I’m a bit royal too, it’s nothing special – so what. I definitely think that was what it was about. How funny!

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  150. Keane said on November 25th, 2014 at 6:56 pm

    @Keane:

    And indeed, cheque!

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  151. Keane said on November 25th, 2014 at 7:15 pm

    @Keane:

    And of course she’s trotting out that “I would enter politics if I thought I would be taken seriously enough to be effective” emotional blackmail line again i.e. if you don’t take me seriously I will not be able to do any good work in the world and it will be all your fault type of thing, in other words, vote for me or you are all going to hell! Such manipulation and brainwashing, she is utterly shameless about it, utterly shameless!

    Still those “twins” hey, you can still never quite get away from them can you? Such a thorny issue that one!

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  152. joanne said on November 25th, 2014 at 7:16 pm

    @Keane:
    now this is rag mag material.

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  153. joanne said on November 25th, 2014 at 7:19 pm

    @Keane:
    going to hell here and happy. she is getting to be a desperate old hag. she is lucky the powers that be love trash.

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  154. Keane said on November 25th, 2014 at 7:20 pm

    @Keane:

    I bet she wants to get a house in Britain as well so they can be near their fathers. I bet you they end up sending them to British schools… just wait and see!

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  155. WC Kitty said on November 25th, 2014 at 7:30 pm

    @Keane:
    Well, we know who looks like who could be their fathers. As for for Jolie, “she goes wherever she is needed.” What has she exactly done that makes her really “to be needed?” By the time she would be able to run for president of the US, she wouldn’t be elected at the rate her looks are deteriorating. She looks like skin and bones and IMO she looks ill. Now, could she get mixed up in politics or something else if she lived in England?

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  156. joanne said on November 25th, 2014 at 7:37 pm

    @WC Kitty:
    Hopefully she will run in England claiming her kids as her anchor.

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  157. joanne said on November 25th, 2014 at 7:38 pm

    @joanne:
    written the same way of course.

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  158. Keane said on November 25th, 2014 at 7:40 pm

    @WC Kitty:

    Yes, it was hilarious when she said in her interview “I like working in the field because I felt that I could be of use there” or words to that effect (”in the field”, “IN THE FIELD”, oh my god that never gets old!) – but that then someone else was needed to communicate the need back to Washington. So, hang on a minute, are you thinking what I’m thinking? Angelina is highlighting the need and then there needs to be a messenger to communicate her message back to the White House. So hang on a minute, why don’t we cut to the chase, and make Angie the messenger to the White House? Or indeed, let’s just cut completely to the chase and let’s just make Angie the White House itself! Hurray – problem solved – all the world’s problems have instantaneously been highlighted by Ange and communicated back to the nexus of international power, the White House, instantly! Yes everyone, Ange will save us, all we need is Ange – she shows up, she holds a notebook and pen, she highlights and now sends the message back to the White House to be fixed – problem solved!!!! There is no more need to suffer things like Ebola, the war in Iraq and Syria and terrorism, we can just hand all these problems over to Ange. Surely this is the only way forward. All you need is Ange!!!

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  159. WC Kitty said on November 25th, 2014 at 7:43 pm

    @joanne:
    She’ll probably claim that they are, but those kids are the ones who need an anchor. It would be great if Keane’s idea that they are put into British schools came true. Then at least the kids would get a decent education, be around other children, and have some stability in their lives.

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  160. Keane said on November 25th, 2014 at 7:43 pm

    @WC Kitty:

    No she will try to fast track it – trust on this – it will be the American people’s obligation to save the world to change legislation to enable her swift entrance to the White House. You wait, you just wait. She did not “shake all those hands” in the CFR for nothing after all!

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  161. WC Kitty said on November 25th, 2014 at 7:51 pm

    @Keane:
    She may try, but I hope that the American public won’t buy her narcissistic BS. She is scarier than Palin.

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  162. Guest2 said on November 25th, 2014 at 8:54 pm

    @Keane:
    The mother of six who has battled breast cancer? She’s got your press believing that lie. She doesn’t need to run for anything. She just has to get rid of Camilla and she will be queen someday. She’s already a dame and working her way up. And why was brad sneaking into a Cake screening instead of accompanying his wife on the red carpet? I think she didn’t want him there stealing attention away from her.

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  163. morris maltenburg said on November 25th, 2014 at 9:44 pm

    ooohhhh

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  164. morris maltenburg said on November 25th, 2014 at 10:14 pm

    @WC Kitty:
    WC KITTY CAT,
    The thing that has bothered me all of these years is that I know factually that she was screwing off at 13-14 years of age. If you read certain older articles they would have you believe that she graduated school early, and then the crap about NY University. It did not matter what photos came out regarding her being a junkie, even though she was. All of the crappy statements regarding her father, and the weird behavior with her older brother James. Announcing to the world as she arrived on the Red Carpet with Hillbilly Bob Thornbush and stating publicly that they were fucking in their limo before they arrived. This is out right BIZARRE BEHAVIOR.

    I could go further. The mere fact that this moron seriously believes in her demented head that somehow she would make an excellent political leader drives beyond the pale. This woman would never meet the smallest criterion for obtaining a security clearance to handle classified information. Let alone with her public persona, video tapes, etc being totally whacked out on smack, or whatever. She is absolutely dangerous, no more, no less then Top KUNTSTER, actually believing that he should be PRESIDENT OF THE US. This is how far we’ve slid en down that slippery slope. Her even being considered for a seat on the CFR should tell you volumes regarding whats going on. When she was DAMED by the Queen, you know that ENGLISH knuckle fuck has in fact lost her mind. Regardless of her being diagnosed with Dementia, and Alzheimer’s Disease. This is sheer lunacy.

    If we actually make it through the next 2 years in one piece, I actually think we may have a chance to pick up the pieces.

    @WC Kitty:

    Without a doubt. I can tell you the Sarah Heath Palin I knew when she was in college, I seriously don’t know what happened to her. I knew Sarah well before she married Todd, and she was not famous for anything at that point. She is an college graduate, was a college athlete, and had solid footing. What happened to that person I don’t know. Yet I am seriously with you in hoping Jolly Head never makes it in politics. That is well beyond scary.

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  165. 尚吾网 said on November 26th, 2014 at 1:20 am

    再次来访,一如既往的支持。

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  167. Keane said on November 26th, 2014 at 3:57 pm

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2850447/Angelina-Jolie-reveals-considering-life-politics.html

    Well – looks like Ange’s dipping of her toe in the water of politics has been well-received!

    ABSOLUTELY HILARIOUS

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  168. Siska said on November 26th, 2014 at 6:16 pm

    @Guest2:Hi guest2
    Do tell me about brad sneaking watching Cake premire?

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  169. Siska said on November 26th, 2014 at 6:18 pm

    Love Jen new movie trailer Cake..it made me teary by watch it..it’s powerful..

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  170. Guest2 said on November 26th, 2014 at 8:08 pm

    @Siska:
    Hi Siska, someone who went to a Cake screening tweeted that when she left the screening to go get her car she ran into a director who was with Brad Pitt. Don’t know if he really did go but you can read it here:

    http://www.femalefirst.co.uk/board/viewtopic.php?f=40&t=653935

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  171. Guest2 said on November 26th, 2014 at 8:12 pm

    Happy Thanksgiving to everyone here who celebrates it. Maybe after the holiday Ian will weigh in on the balcony fight and brad being absent from jolie’s UK premiere.

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  172. Guest2 said on November 26th, 2014 at 10:24 pm

    I think this is AJ’s new love interest. He’s just her type, married and he looks like a girl to boot. Poor brad.

    http://www.nationalenquirer.com/celebrity/brad-pitt-goes-ballistic-angelina-jolie

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  173. WC Kitty said on November 26th, 2014 at 11:37 pm

    @Guest2:
    The guy looks like her ex lover Jenny S.

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  174. WC Kitty said on November 26th, 2014 at 11:38 pm

    @Guest2:
    +1 :)

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  176. joanne said on November 27th, 2014 at 1:53 pm

    happy turkey day all.

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  177. siska said on November 27th, 2014 at 6:10 pm

    @.guest2. Thanks. Happy Thanksgiving.. Enjoy ur turkey n family time

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  178. Guest2 said on November 27th, 2014 at 8:39 pm

    @WC Kitty:
    He’s prettier.

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  179. WC Kitty said on November 28th, 2014 at 1:44 am

    @Guest2:
    :lol:

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