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  1. Guest2 said on September 17th, 2012 at 9:12 am

    Thank you for the new clue.

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  2. Guest2 said on September 17th, 2012 at 9:32 am

    The Philistines captured the ark after they defeated the Israelites in battle. Prior to that the ark had been kept in shiloh. This clue sounds familiar. However, in this clue it is spelled arc which has a different meaning than ark. Is this a typo or is it spelled deliberately that way? Where are the clue solvers this morning?

    Arc
    Electrical conduction through gas in an applied electric field; any unbroken part of a circle or other curved line

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  3. Guest2 said on September 17th, 2012 at 9:39 am

    Definition of to chew the cud: to think slowly and carefully about something.

    Greatest conductors…those who lead an orchestra. Would this be brad as in him being the ringmaster? This is all I’ve got, waiting for the clue masters to arrive.

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  4. Guest2 said on September 17th, 2012 at 9:42 am

    The photo if tagged brad pitt-jennifer aniston (obviously) and then we have BP, JA but who is JP? Jolie-pitt, jane pitt? Is Ian expanding on what he told Kate about the always connection of bp to ja? I’m not smart enough to understand this. I’ll have to be patient and wait for the ladies.

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  5. Payal said on September 17th, 2012 at 9:54 am

    thank you ian!

    but im not happy it involves brad and jen, dont want him to have anything to do with her lol

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  6. frenchchick @work said on September 17th, 2012 at 9:54 am

    The Tag is curious. BP and JA are obvious, I vote for Jolie Pitt for JP right ?

    Is it a clue about how the triangle started ?

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  7. cls1976 said on September 17th, 2012 at 10:25 am

    I’ll try another one…Netflix zombies…in October 2011, Netflix announced they obtained exclusive rights to show reruns of AMC Networks’ “The Walking Dead” zombie drama. It was an effort for the battered video rental company to try and reverse subscriber losses.

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  8. sinker said on September 17th, 2012 at 10:34 am

    The Crucible reference:

    AJ= Abigail

    A small group of teen girls in 1692 Salem, Massachusetts caught in an innocent conjuring of love potions to catch young men are forced to tell lies that Satan had invaded them and forced them to participate in the rites and are then forced to name those involved. Thrown into the mix are greedy preachers and other major landowners trying to steal others’ land and one young woman (Abigail) infatuated with a married man and determined to get rid of his innocent wife. Arthur Miller wrote the events and the subsequent trials where those who demanded their innocence were executed, those who would not name names were incarcerated and tortured, and those who admitted their guilt were immediately freed as a parable of the Congressional Communist witch hunts led by Senator Joe McCarthy in 1950’s America.

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  9. cls1976 said on September 17th, 2012 at 10:46 am

    Lyrics for Desperados Waiting for a Train:

    I played the Red River Valley
    He’d sit in the kitchen and cry
    Run his fingers through seventy years of livin’
    And wonder, “Lord, why has every well I’ve drilled gone dry?”

    We were friends, me and this old man
    We’s like desperados waitin’ for a train
    Desperados waitin’ for a train

    He’s a drifter, a driller of oil wells
    He’s an old school man of the world
    He taught me how to drive his car when he was too drunk to
    And he’d wink and give me money for the girls
    And our lives was like, some old Western movie
    Like desperados waitin’ for a train
    Like desperados waitin’ for a train

    From the time that I could walk he’d take me with him
    To a bar called the Green Frog Cafe
    There was old men with beer guts and dominos
    Lying ’bout their lives while they played
    I was just a kid, they all called me “Sidekick”
    Just like desperados waitin’ for a train
    Like desperados waitin’ for a train

    One day I looked up and he’s pushin’ eighty
    He’s got brown tobacco stains all down his chin
    Well to me he was a hero of this country
    So why’s he all dressed up like them old men
    Drinkin’ beer and playin’ Moon and Forty-two
    Jus’ like desperados waitin’ for a train
    Like a desperado waitin’ for a train

    The day ‘fore he died I went to see him
    I was grown and he was almost gone.
    So we just closed our eyes and dreamed us up a kitchen
    And sang one more verse to that old song
    (spoken) Come on, Jack, that son-of-a-bitch is comin’

    We’re desperados waitin’ for a train
    Was like desperados waitin’ for a train

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  10. uest2 said on September 17th, 2012 at 10:51 am

    Maybe by the tag jp, Ian is saying they are both responsible? I don’t know, just guessing.

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  11. cls1976 said on September 17th, 2012 at 11:38 am

    Flowing afterglow…continuous, fluid sense of fulfillment, completeness, and general wellbeing that one feels after the effects of a psychoactive drug have faded…or after great sex. Could go either way, though I’ll take it in a broader aspect.

    Chewing the cud…meditating or pondering

    Seeping after surgery…leaks occurring after an attempt to repair a condition/injury

    Action for advocacy: An organization in the UK. They state that “Advocacy is taking action to help people say what they want, secure their rights, represent their interests and obtain services they need. Advocates and advocacy schemes work in partnership with the people they support and take their side. Advocacy promotes social inclusion, equality and social justice.”

    Philistines and the arc…If Ian intentionally used the word “arc” correctly and didn’t mean “ark”, a philistine person is the man or woman who is smugly narrow of mind and of conventional morality whose materialistic views and tastes indicate a lack of and indifference to cultural and æsthetic values. The “arc” could be reference to someone/them continuing the storyline and refusing to change; they will continue on the same path or stand their ground.

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  12. Patty Anne said on September 17th, 2012 at 11:44 am

    I think the “flowing afterglow” was discussed earlier on. “The design modifications to a standard flowing afterglow needed to make measurements at elevated temperatures are described in detail……” Charting temperatures for ovulation?

    After much careful thought ( chewing the cud ) a decision is reached by which Jen decides to attempt a pregnancy. ”

    like a desperado waiting for a train” http://www.cowboylyrics.com/lyrics/clark-guy/desperados-waiting-for-a-train-5.html
    I played the Red River Valley
    He’d sit in the kitchen and cry
    Run his fingers through seventy years of livin’
    And wonder, “Lord, why has every well I’ve drilled gone dry?”

    We were friends, me and this old man
    We’s like desperados waitin’ for a train
    Desperados waitin’ for a train

    ” We Were Friends”…..the “always” connection between Brad and Jen is a deep and lasting friendship rather than a love. Now Brad is sad, and crying in the kitchen over all his empty dreams. His friend (Jen) comforts him.

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  13. Patty Anne said on September 17th, 2012 at 11:48 am

    I choose to believe the Chewing The Cud refers more to Jen’s future plans of having a child with or without a partner rather than any possibility of reuniting with Brad. I also believe Brad and Jen have both moved on with their lives and simply share a very close bond of friendship due to her integrity in dealing with Abigail aka Angie and Brad’s public humilation of her during their lustful affair. She has forgiven him, but moved on. Brad is now in the dumps dealing with his plethora of failures in his personal life and in his career. Anyway, that’s how I see it. Jen, ever loyal to friends, is giving emotional support to an ex-hubby.@Patty Anne:

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  14. louisianagurl said on September 17th, 2012 at 12:17 pm

    I will need some time on this one…but arc could be an electrical arc or an arc in the story…the turning point. I will get back to you soon! :-)

    Also…conductors could be things that conduct electricity…plays into the arc adn greatest conductors clues

    Thanks for the new clue Ian!!

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  15. rushdog said on September 17th, 2012 at 12:27 pm

    I think the JP tag refers to the couple. And the order of the tag initials would be relevant according to Ian-speak: BP, JA, JP. So some options: JA is between BP and JP (the couple) or BP and JA come before JP.

    The photo of Brad and Jen w/scroll “brad-pitt-jennifer-aniston” is from the 2002 Golden Globe awards. He appears to be congratulating (I’m not going to watch a vide on this) on a nomination (either her for supporting actress or “Friends” for best comedy) because she was not a recipient of the award that year. JA won for best actress in a comedy at the Golden Globes in 2003.

    Not sure all that matters other than he was supporting her.

    Is it too easy to say “Flowing afterglow…lubed to go” says it all. Something is organized and all ready to go and truly there are only certain things that provide an afterglow. I haven’t looked at the clues any further yet.

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  16. Patty Anne said on September 17th, 2012 at 12:35 pm

    Philistines: Smug, narrow minded of conventional morality who lack in cluture or artistic appreciation.

    Arc: ARCwww.e-arc.com/Cached – Similar
    ARC (ARC) is a global provider of content-enabled technology solutions and cloud computing solutions for the architecture, engineering, and construction …

    Brad considers himself an architect and in believing so has undertaken extensive work at the Chateau in France. There are laws governing what can be done to a historic building and how it can be done. Could the referrerence to Philistines and the ARC mean that French authorities are giving Brad legal difficulties due to his undertaking at the Chateau Miraval? WWZ is … “Netflex Zombies” … imo, which means films that do not do well at the box office go directly to Netflex and are so bad they don’t usually go to DVD either. Another failure on Brad Pitt’s part.

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  17. Patty Anne said on September 17th, 2012 at 12:45 pm

    http://www.youtube.com/embed/MDOrzF7B2Kg?rel=0

    A rememberance of the heroism of 9/11

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  18. liv4 said on September 17th, 2012 at 12:51 pm

    Just a few thoughts.
    Flowing afterglow takes a sensitive analytical approach. Lube to go – they come to you, self-contained. Paperclips and a Subway coupon – seems to be from an anime where someone is offered infinite power but goes for the paperclips and subway coupon and there is also something in there about “let me know when they’re terminated”. Netflix zombies reminds me of battle of zombies who won’t die and there is voodoo involved. And the sounds and haste – only thing I could find was a poem that included noise and haste that dealt with being wise and being on good terms with all people. If you look up chewing the cud it is a website and says “a moment of meditation before taking a calculated leap”. There is wedding collage or info there. Seeping after surgery – sometimes seeping is from your body “cleaning the wound” or sometimes it is a complication. Greatest conductors – is that Brad? Lube to go – Brad makes housecalls? (LOL at that one). The Highwaymen sang the desperado song which is above and some old man is someone’s hero and when did he get old. Action for advocacy – Central point of info on independent advocacy (securing someone’s rights, support or taking their side). Vertex cover of a tree is a complicated equation that can be solved. Philistines was as above. Who blames who – Abigail is to blame (witchcraft) and she is manipulative which in my mind would be Angie as I don’t that JA is associated with voodoo and such. Just my observations from googling things.

    Sounds like Patty Anne is right. Brad is wondering where time went and when he became suddenly old (Highway man song), has regrets. JA is supportive. Maybe she is the one offered infinite power but declines for the ordinary. I still don’t see the JP’s as a couple, and I still feel it is AJ that is the one fighting for power.

    Hope you guys get more than I did. I don’t tend to think in the abstract.

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  19. haki said on September 17th, 2012 at 1:01 pm

    I have NEVER seen him this affectionate and this sincere with Angelina even once in the seven years that they have been photographed together!

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  20. Up the Coast said on September 17th, 2012 at 1:24 pm

    @Patty Anne:
    @Patty Anne:
    +1

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  21. rushdog said on September 17th, 2012 at 1:26 pm

    I’ve got to run but this peaked my interest with the “sanctuary of Shiloh” in the last paragraph. When the Philistines had the arc it brought bad luck and plagues.

    From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    “The Philistine captivity of the Ark was an episode described in the biblical history of the Israelites, in which the Ark of the covenant was in the possession of the Philistines, who had captured it after defeating the Israelites in a battle at a location between Eben-ezer, where the Israelites encamped, and Aphek, (probably Antipatris) where the Philistines encamped…

    The ark narrative does not include any mention of Samuel; Bill Arnold suggests that it is “in order to celebrate the power of Yahweh’s ark.”[1] Many scholars put 1 Samuel 4 – 6 together with 2 Samuel 6 and believe that it reflects an old source that was eventually incorporated into the History of David’s Rise or into the later Deuteronomistic History.[2]

    According to the 1 Samuel 4, prior to the battle the Ark had been residing at the ancient sanctuary of Shiloh, but was brought out by the Israelites in hope of victory. The Israelites suffered a significant defeat…”

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  22. Sabrina the cat lady said on September 17th, 2012 at 1:41 pm

    oh Haki go on with your delusional self. Isn’t Manniston engagated to be married to her little Gargogyle. Why still talking about Brad. Move on people, move on. Ist going on eight years

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  23. Up the Coast said on September 17th, 2012 at 1:45 pm

    Paperclips and a Subway coupon….randomness? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4KxrBy1T_aw&feature=player_embedded

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  24. Up the Coast said on September 17th, 2012 at 1:56 pm

    It sounds like joLIE’s voodoo spells are taking their toll on the JP’s. They are both looking old and tired…they’ve been swimming against the current instead of going with the flow of the universe (like Jen does). The spell is wearing off and all that’s left is Reality! Now, it’s a matter of…WHO is to blame?

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  25. Up the Coast said on September 17th, 2012 at 1:56 pm

    Thanks Ian!

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  26. Patty Anne said on September 17th, 2012 at 2:12 pm

    like a desperado waiting for a train…action for advocacy…

    Worn out, failure in all areas of his life Brad Pitt argues and pleads with (Jen?) in favor of something.

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  27. Patty Anne said on September 17th, 2012 at 2:14 pm

    who blames who in the crucible?

    The unfaithful husband blames the concubine for the death of his wife (marriage?)

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  28. Tetta said on September 17th, 2012 at 3:27 pm

    @Ian One more Thank You from me.

    “who blames who in the crucible” , crucible – meltingpot. Brad´s and Angelina´s careers melts down. They both blame each other for the situation.

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  29. Tetta said on September 17th, 2012 at 3:52 pm

    @Patty Anne:

    Patty Anne. I didn´t saw your comment about the crucible – but in some way Jennifer´s marriage is a part of AJ´s and Bp´s failure and Brad blames Angelina for the way she caught him and that he had to leave JA, his best friend. The feeling I get from this clue is that they all hesitate. No one is over the moon happy. Jennifer marries Justin for the sake of marrying. She proofs to her self that she has gone forward after “chewing the cud” for a long time.

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  30. Payal said on September 17th, 2012 at 4:13 pm

    @Patty Anne:

    off point but i do love that word concubine makes me laugh everytime i hear it or see it in a sentence lol

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  31. liv4 said on September 17th, 2012 at 6:03 pm

    @Up the Coast:
    Introducing new characters to the equation?

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  32. Patty Anne said on September 17th, 2012 at 6:27 pm

    LOL, me too. I have a fondness for “oldfashioned” words.
    @Payal:

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  33. Patty Anne said on September 17th, 2012 at 6:31 pm

    Could very well be so Tetta. I was thinking back to the fact that Brad and Jen were trying to work things out after she kicked him out of their home, before Brad’s concubine (lol) notified Brad she was pregnant. In that case Brad , upon looking back now, would blame Angie for entrapment. JMO. That alone would begin the resentment on Brad’s narcissistic POV. He has had nothing but failure and humiliation since he attached himself to “the town pump”, he’s now an object of ridicule as well. Can’t blame Jen…she’s clearly moved on and ignored the long-lifed b.s. about the cause of it all. I think Brad is a broken, resentmentful man now.@Tetta:

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  34. Up the Coast said on September 17th, 2012 at 6:40 pm

    @liv4:
    Maybe Ian is talking about how Ange gave each one of the kids, randomly chosen characters/personalities?

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  35. Up the Coast said on September 17th, 2012 at 6:44 pm

    @Patty Anne:
    And he might be jealous of all the doors that are opening for Justin.

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  36. Patty Anne said on September 17th, 2012 at 6:56 pm

    Now that it’s clear to the world that Jennifer has moved on with her life, and everyone is chasing after JTx for photos , interviews, and offering work….well, it has to be making Brad resentful , simply by being a reminder of how he was respected and admired as one half of HW’s Golden Couple. Now, however, Justin is in his place while he’s saddled with a psychopath and six unruly kids and a go-nowhere career. @Up the Coast:

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  37. Guest19 said on September 17th, 2012 at 7:03 pm

    IMO the Golden person in the said Golden couple wasn’t Brad, but Jen and I think that is a title that Angie has tried to live up to. Say what you will about Jen, but it is clear that the woman is very well liked and respected in Hollywood. Nobody who has ever worked with her has ever had anything negative to say and this goes for even those who haven’t worked with her. I could see where Brad would be resentful towards Jen (for not giving him a second chance) and Angie (for the end of his marriage). The only person that he should be resentful towards is himself. He had a good wife and he let her go because he decided to think with his small head and now that is a price he will pay for his life. The guy does not look happy and can’t blame the kids on that when each one of them has a nanny.

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  38. rushdog said on September 17th, 2012 at 7:05 pm

    Well this must be one of the slowest riddle-solving threads I’ve seen here. Not a lot of action except PA. We must have had too much time off! As for myself, my brain is fried from a deadline today. It’s working pretty slow.

    @Guest2:
    @rushdog:
    Sorry Guest2 I read your comment but then reposted the same thing. I think you are correct about the difference in spelling w/ arc vs ark. I believe Ian does that deliberately. “Arc” could be referencing any unbroken part of a circle or other curved line.

    Or arc could represent electrical conduction through gas in an applied electric field. Interestingly, “flowing afterglow” – sensitive analytical technique that measures ions to charge/allows a current to pass through electrodes into a solution. And “greatest conductors?” – a conductor is a wire which transmits and contains electrical charges. (OK IAN, this physics stuff stinks). I tend think this is not meant to be that complicated but I mention it only because there could be three things relating to transmitting charges. (And back on the “Hoof and Hound…” thread there appeared to be three clues that suggested stomach upset or BS – not sure if that is meant to point us in a certain direction).

    Another thought on the “greatest conductors?” clue, when I search that everything comes up about music. Greatest conductors? as in orchestra or in this case ORCHESTRATORS. Such as:

    chewing the cud – pondering
    seeping after surgery – discharge or leak
    greatest conductors? – orchestrators
    lube to go – come to you and keeps “equipment” running smoothly
    like a desperado waiting for a train – desperado = criminal or desperate person

    Also, regarding Ian changing words, “amid the sounds and haste” in the poem The Desiderata of Happiness the line is actually “amid the noise and haste” so, again, I think Ian changed it for a reason. Desiderata is the plural of desideratum which means things wanted or needed. So what “sounds and haste” could this mean? Engagements and wedding bells seem to fit nicely here.

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  39. Up the Coast said on September 17th, 2012 at 7:19 pm

    @Patty Anne:
    yep

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  40. Up the Coast said on September 17th, 2012 at 7:37 pm

    Flowing Afterglow…Lube To Go: Is someone coming to Ange and drug testing her or Brad?

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  41. liv4 said on September 17th, 2012 at 7:39 pm

    Paperclips and Subway makes me think someone is settling, such as settling for “Mr. Good Enough?” Maybe JA is settling with her engagement. Such as in the anime someone is offered infinite power but chooses paperclips and Subway. And why the pic of JA and BP when they both look really happy?

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  42. liv4 said on September 17th, 2012 at 7:43 pm

    And I think vertex cover of a tree is an algorithm. Algorithm is defined as a process or set of rules to be followed in calculations or other problem-solving operations. So someone has to follow a set of rules to solve whatever problem is out there?

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  43. liv4 said on September 17th, 2012 at 7:47 pm

    chewing the cud – pondering
    seeping after surgery – discharge or leak
    greatest conductors? – orchestrators

    These three by RUSH seem dead on.

    Something leaked and the engagement was set up to cover the leak? As Ian has suggested previously, nothing is what it seems with all of them.

    As usual just speculating to solve the puzzle.

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  44. Tetta said on September 17th, 2012 at 7:58 pm

    “Vertex cover of a tree” and “arc” both describes a bow. Vertex cover of a tree describes how to make the smallest cover for a tree and it most often look as an arc or bow. When I googled vertex it describes a bow that begins from the bottom and reach a top and then go back down again. To me it could be a picture of JP´s careers. They have reached the top and are now going down the bow. A very simple interpretation but at least I think vertex and bow have a connection – or maybe not :)

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  45. janindisguise said on September 17th, 2012 at 8:14 pm

    Is that about having gone through a miscarriage or something? All I got for now.

    Saw Salt last night on tv. I rather liked it. As much as any other ramped up movie. When I was watching it, I thought AJ looked quite “at home” playing Evelyn Salt, a sort of autobiography, if you will. Anyway it was good and I thought she was good in it.

    So there. Something positive, and within it dark – the autobiog.

    Peace to all.

    Jan

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  46. Guest2 said on September 17th, 2012 at 8:20 pm

    @janindisguise:
    I watched Salt last night too and was surprised that I liked it and even more surprised that I thought she was pretty good in it. I can see why people like her in those roles where she plays a badass. There, I said something nice about aj.

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  47. rushdog said on September 17th, 2012 at 8:21 pm

    @liv4:
    A good number of the threads in Jan thru March suggest a leak imo. Then there was the NBA post on April 13th one of three unluckiest days of 2012 and the promise for the future announcement. And following that were the two big clues, “Should have put a ring on it” and “Texas 1464,” clearly important posts to Ian. IMO it’s because they explained the “why” regarding the Jan-March posts. Not sure if Ian knew all the why during the early parr of the year, he may have just known the “what” and that’s why those two posts were so important. Bu definitely a threat of a leak (Texas 1464 confirms imo) and that appears to be the cause of the first engagement according to Ian. Can’t quite put my finger on why the second engagement unless the timing was just to leverage the press and end the triangle. I still think this may be him trying to step out. Jmo on everything.

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  48. lol said on September 17th, 2012 at 8:44 pm

    @Payal:

    LOL that’s good because Brad doesn’t have anything to do with Jennifer

    Man how many years has this man been posting these stupid “clues” Clues that never ever add to anything. you know he only does this to keep you all here so he can make a couple of bucks.
    How many exclusives has he missed. When was the last time he posted on a real Celeb story. My gosh how many years are you all going to waste here’

    Jennifer is getting married. She is in love and happy. Why do you all still need obsess over a divorce that is about to be 8 years old. Come on. It is so weird to see this kind of crazy.

    All these people have moved on. It is OVER PEOPLE. I guess you all just can’t let go.

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  49. Kate said on September 17th, 2012 at 9:10 pm

    @lol:
    Apparently you can not either. Do you just quietly sit by and monitor this blog ? Are you waiting for Ian to post so you can badger? Do you think it bothers him? It doesn’t. When someone is confident and that stand by their work they do not need to whine and plead their case. It just stands. ;)

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  50. Payal said on September 17th, 2012 at 9:32 pm

    @Kate:

    kate! any ideas on this clue? please share your opinions

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  51. liv4 said on September 17th, 2012 at 9:40 pm

    @rushdog:
    As in everything needs to be in place, carefully orchestrated to lower the risk of any backlash to those involved and secrets will stay secrets?

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  52. rushdog said on September 17th, 2012 at 11:59 pm

    Here’s some ideas. Going to connect today’s post this to the 5/23/12 post “Texas 1464″ and I posted this on the inside “Love to Love” thread. This is part of that riddle:

    James jumps the shark – JH LOW POINT, UNREDEEMABLE, LOSS OF CREDIBILITY
    Getting the elder scroll in skyrim – FREE ROAMING ROLE PLAYING CHARACTERS
    pretending meaning in Hindi – THE OPPOSITE OF WHAT YOU ARE
    Feeling the kicks no more = NO FUN ANYMORE
    Dam it feels good to be a gangsta = IT (software tech) EMPLOYEES IN CONTROL (see office space movie)
    Stolen child support = either BP CAN’T LEAVE HOMESTEAD

    I believe this means that it was James crashed 1464 that was brought to the software technicians while he was filming his movie in Texas and those employees stole information from this computer and have control of it. That’s the threatened leak, the abyss from the January riddle, that shows JP is the opposite of what they’ve portrayed themselves to be.

    I’ve asked Ian thru a post and on twitter whether the Texas 1464 is still a pending matter. There was no response but I don’t necessarily expect one, just figured I’d ask and see what might come of it. I tend to think it’s still pending and that’s why the low profile as compared to other times.

    Now to today’s post: what is Ian trying to say? There has to be a message. I think the photo/scroll and tags indicate that there is a friendship between BP and JA that stands apart from the JP relationship. A supportive friendship that survived the battle with the philistines.

    I’m not sure if what is below will make sense to anyone. Could “lube-to-go” mean extortion? If the “gorillas are in charge” then what else would they be doing but threatening whoever was on the “crashed 1464.” It would certainly explain why someone would be stuck. Here’s a suggested solution of today’s riddle incorporating some of the ideas posted:

    paperclips and a Subway coupon = trying to appear ordinary
    Netflix zombies = online tv shows and films/animated corpses brought back to life = to return to the past glory of tv/film actors
    amid the sounds and haste = thru engagements and wedding bells
    flowing afterflow = sensitive analytical approach that measures the charges in the current
    chewing the cud = pondering/thinking about
    seeping after surgery = discharge/leak
    greatest conductors? = orchestrators
    lube-to-go = comes to you/keeps “equipment” running smoothly = extortion???
    like a desperado waiting for a train = desperate man waiting for escape
    action for advocacy = taking action to help someone
    vertex cover for a tree = to solve a complex problem
    philistines and the arc = obtained the ark (power) in a “battle” (AJ) and the (arc) uninterrupted part of a circle (friendship btwn BP, JA)
    who blames who in the crucible = pointing fingers at each other/there’s enough blame to go around

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  53. janindisguise said on September 18th, 2012 at 12:06 am

    @Guest2:
    Guest- I really feel like she is absolutely at home and at ease in those roles. I believe in her off hours she may make herself useful with those skills. And yes, I truly believe she is really and naturally well versed with knives, guns and swords so she’s quite confident with those tools. And that’s what I think about that. Delta style.

    (I need a really low cal snack about now – thinking about a real kosher pickle – I mean really kosher by a Jewish company. That should satisfy.)

    As far as Jen and Brad – I can only say that pic Ian put up is either great acting lovey dovey or the real thing – it looks real to me.

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  54. fluffy said on September 18th, 2012 at 5:48 am

    Kate
    Were are you when we all need you!!!! Great work Rushdog!!!!

    Sandy and Child of Medusa and Keane !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Where are you all when we need you most.
    Hate to nag but this Jen and Brad theme keeps coming back.

    BP Gold – I am not sugguesting that they get back together as BP IMO is a stupid peace of shit and does not deserve JA
    Ian you have been maintaining this JA/BP theme since 2011

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  55. Tetta said on September 18th, 2012 at 8:08 am

    It seems like there is no more to say from Ian´s point of you. We have asked for an explanation for ” Brad and Jennifer are always connected” and we get it here. In spite of all that happened back in 2004 and 2005 they still are friends. Perhaps they have built another kind of friendship than the one they had as a married couple. The texts with the conversations that Mel / Celebzter presented seemed to be a relaxed dialogue between friends, not between a couple in love. When people that know JA and BP denies they are still in touch, they do it because they have to. Angelina wouldn´t like their connection. Perhaps friends and families don´t know about it either. It´s easier to deny a connection than to explain it.

    The leak is still disturbing. maybe JH had saved a correspondence between him and Angelina that revealed too much about their relation. An engagement and some talk about a wedding with Brad perhaps hid the leak for a while.

    The vortex figure could mean to describe BP´s and Angelina´s careers. They have reached the top and are now on their way down. It could mean a lot of other things too. This is just one explanation.

    What still is interesting is when Angelina “decided” to break up JA´s and Brad´s relation, was her main purpose from the beginning to hurt Jennifer ? JA had a lot of thing AJ didn´t have. A husband, a lot of friends, she was/is beautiful and everyone liked her and still do . Spreading a rumor she didn´t want Brad´s kids was a nice try to make people change their minds but it didn´t succeed.

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  56. Guest2 said on September 18th, 2012 at 8:11 am

    @rushdog:
    I agree with fluffy, great work tying the clues together. What would the leak and the extortion be? Is it possible that whatever was on that crashed computer has something to do with james besides it possibly being his computer. I wonder if the extortion is in some way related to that farrah famewhore blind about an actress who had a child with someone she should never have been sleeping with. I think some of Ian’s past blinds were about a child as well. How does bp fit in to that? And who are the gorillas who are in charge? This suggests thugs to me. They were mentioned in the FF blind that talked about the bodyguard trying to extort money from her but her thugs silenced him. Or maybe the extortion is brad being threatened with the release of damaging info involving ja if he doesn’t toe the line. Maybe that’s the “always” connection and the reason for her need a protecter. Whatever the truth is I think even we would be shocked if we knew. Sorry to ramble on but as always ther are more questions than answers.

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  57. liv4 said on September 18th, 2012 at 9:30 am

    Maybe there is some significance to the tags and their order.

    BP: Paperclips and Subway taken from anime where Naturo (adolescent ninja) searches for RECOGNITION and to BE THE LEADER. Netfix zombie – could refer to his movie or you can watch netflix movies on the Blog of the Living Dead. Amid the sounds and haste – Sometimes there is peace in silence, although Ian did change noise to sounds. Flowing afterglow is mass spectometry where ions are moved about and manipulated. All I have for now.

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  58. rushdog said on September 18th, 2012 at 10:09 am

    @liv4:
    to further my thoughts on “lube-to-go” being extortion…comes to you and keeps “equipment” (secrets safe or the plan intact) running smoothly.

    This is obviously just a guess but there was another riddle that made me think of the same thing (can’t remember which one it was at the moment). I think “Texas 1464″ was clear that something was taken and “Should have put a ring on it” indicates a package was received UPS 3 months earlier which from that posting date would have been mid-January. At the time of the “into the abyss” post and at the beginning of awards season. I thought the appearances of the couple during awards season was off, not their best. She appeared to be drinking her way through it and he seemed…nervous, fidgety, trying to hard (the weird back and forthe with Clooney). I can’t come up with the right description of what I mean w/him. At the time I just wrote it off to a deep need to receive the recognitnion and the impending end, at least according to Ian.

    If the information referred to in Texas 1464 has not been secured then what else would the holders be doing with it esp after having notified the parties involved that they “the gorillas” are in possession of it. It appears the threat of use is enough place a situation described in the puzzle, imo, category of extortion.

    Otherwise this riddle reads to me like so many of the others…he’s miserable and trying to step his way out w/out anyone losing their image.

    From Wiki:
    “Extortion (also called blackmail, shakedown, outwresting, and exaction) is a criminal offence of unlawfully obtaining money, property, or services from a person, entity, or institution, through coercion. Refraining from doing harm is sometimes euphemistically called protection. Extortion is commonly practiced by organized crime groups. The actual obtainment of money or property is not required to commit the offense. Making a threat of violence which refers to a requirement of a payment of money or property to halt future violence is sufficient to commit the offense. Exaction refers not only to extortion or the unlawful demanding and obtaining of something through force,[1] but additionally, in its formal definition, means the infliction of something such as pain and suffering or making somebody endure something unpleasant.[2″

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  59. rushdog said on September 18th, 2012 at 10:38 am

    @Guest2:

    The link below is where I posted my thoughts on the solution to “Texas 1464″ (among other riddles at the time)the third post from the top. It’s a long post so I don’t want to bring it here. I believe the computer was JH because he’s the one that “jumped the shark” which is someone’s low point, unredeemable loss of credibility. That’s the Urban dictionary definition and it goes on to explain that when TC jumped the shark it was his couch jumping on Oprah. The photo on Texas 1464 suggests to me that the couple is in a lifeboat w/the person that caused the problem – JH.

    I believe some of the clues on that post are meant to describe what was on the computer which probably includes JH, AJ and BP because otherwise why would the couple be involved. And I would expect it has some connection to the NBA post on 4/13/12. Subsequent JA posts have her “groovin” along so I would conclude it doesn’t involve her too much in a negative way.

    The “gorillas” would be the software technicians where JH took the computer to get it fixed (?somewhere near Houston near where JH was filming his movie?). IT’s could easily ‘imput/output’ information w/out a person’s knowledge. If what was on the computer conflicts w/a public persona…well that could make someone sit up and take notice.

    Just trying to answer your questions. Sorry to keep bringing up that old riddle but it was a big deal to Ian at the time and I feel very strongly about my guesses. This would be an absolute nightmare for them and they possible couldn’t even go to law enforcement w/out triggering the leak(s) they would want to avoid.

    I’m guessing this off Ian’s riddle clues and it’s just my opinion. I’m not trying to make up some “fanfiction.” IMO their behavior this year seems to follow this scenario. Carefully selected public moments and pr so as to not trigger anything.

    Maybe IAN could somehow acknowledge whether this issue is still pending so I don’t get the current riddle too far off-track :) .

    http://ianundercover.com/2012/05/23/iuc-world-exclusive-boobie-trap-game-french-mistress-paintbox/lovetolove/

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  60. Guest2 said on September 18th, 2012 at 11:07 am

    @rushdog:
    Thanks for linking this. I’ll read it when I get home tonight as there’s a lot there. Not sure how you keep track of it all but glad that you do. Maybe Ian will give us a tweet to acknowledge if you’re on track with this like he used to do.

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  61. louisianagurl said on September 18th, 2012 at 12:09 pm

    SORRY THIS IS LONG, BUT IT IS MY FIRST RUN AT THIS…PLEASE TAKE IT AND RUN WITH IT….

    Paperclips and a Subway coupon… NinjaBridge reference to a comically small bribe

    Netflix zombies… Netflix (NFLX) will be the exclusive place to watch reruns of AMC Networks’ “The Walking Dead” zombie drama, as the battered video rental company tries to reverse subscriber losses. – Netflix Turns To Zombies To Revive Subscribers – BP TRYING TO REGENERATE HIS CAREER AND POSSIBLY HIS RELATIONSHIP WITH AJ

    amid the sounds and haste… from Desiderata (Latin: “desired things”) “the universe is unfolding as it should.” – JA MOVING ON WITH JT IS A NATURAL PROGRESSION. ALL INVOLVED IN THE TRIANGLE ARE STRIVING TO BE HAPPY IN THEIR OWN CIRCUMSTANCES EVEN IF THEY ARE NOT IDEAL.

    Go placidly amidst the noise and haste, and remember what peace there may be in silence. As far as possible without surrender be on good terms with all persons. Speak your truth quietly and clearly; and listen to others, even the dull and the ignorant; they too have their story.
    Avoid loud and aggressive persons, they are vexatious to the spirit. If you compare yourself with others, you may become vain or bitter; for always there will be greater and lesser persons than yourself. Enjoy your achievements as well as your plans. Keep interested in your own career, however humble; it is a real possession in the changing fortunes of time. Exercise caution in your business affairs; for the world is full of trickery. But let this not blind you to what virtue there is; many persons strive for high ideals; and everywhere life is full of heroism. Be yourself. Especially, do not feign affection. Neither be cynical about love; for in the face of all aridity and disenchantment it is as perennial as the grass. Take kindly the counsel of the years, gracefully surrendering the things of youth. Nurture strength of spirit to shield you in sudden misfortune. But do not distress yourself with dark imaginings. Many fears are born of fatigue and loneliness. Beyond a wholesome discipline, be gentle with yourself. You are a child of the universe, no less than the trees and the stars; you have a right to be here. And whether or not it is clear to you, no doubt the universe is unfolding as it should. Therefore be at peace with God, whatever you conceive Him to be, and whatever your labours and aspirations, in the noisy confusion of life keep peace with your soul. With all its shams, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be cheerful. Strive to be happy.

    flowing afterglow… New flowing afterglow technique for determining products of dissociative recombination – Dissociative recombination is a process where a positive molecular ion recombines with an electron, and as a result, the neutral molecule dissociates…basically a neutralizing agent. – WITH THE ADDITION OF JT, THE TRIANGLE IS BEING NEUTRILIZED.

    chewing the cud…a blog…Quote: “Chewing the cud is a story depicted in the mediums of paper, apparel and accessories. The tale is a celebration of all things unique: sometimes bold and dramatic: other times a soft whisper, or a playful hint of spice. The ending is always a kaleidoscope of inspired possibilities, and that, is how we like to see our world.” “Why chewing the cud you ask? We like to ask “why” and then we like to ask, “why not”. Chewing the cud defines that moment of meditation before taking a calculated leap. For the most part, we remember to bring our wings.”

    The idiomatic expression chewing one’s cud means meditating or pondering – JA CONSIDERING HER FUTURE OPTIONS WITH JT AND POSSIBLY FAMILY.

    seeping after surgery… After surgery, you will need to take care of the incision as it heals. Doing so may limit scarring, may help you avoid pain or discomfort, and may help lower the risk of problems like infection. You may notice some soreness, tenderness, tingling, numbness, and itching around the incision. There may also be mild oozing and bruising, and a small lump may form. This is normal and no cause for concern. – avenue for infection to enter…

    greatest conductors?… Silver is the best natural conductor of electricity, followed by copper, gold, and aluminum – ENGAGEMENT RINGS ALL AROUND

    lube to go…maintenance that comes to you to keep your equipment running smoothly. From Mechanic work, preventive maintenance and improve the appearance of your trucks or fleet. – FEAR OF GETTING OLD…POSSIBLY ALL THREE GETTING PREVENTATIVE MAITENANCE TO IMPROVE APPEARANCE…SOME MORE RADICALLY THAN OTHERS

    like a desperado waiting for a train…song about young and old man as they move through life never really getting anywhere…TIME FLIES BY, LIFE HAPPENS…AND THEN YOU REALIZE YOU ARE GETTING OLDER. REFLECTION.

    action for advocacy…UK organization: Advocacy is taking action to help people say what they want, secure their rights, represent their interests and obtain services they need. Advocates and advocacy schemes work in partnership with the people they support and take their side. Advocacy promotes social inclusion, equality and social justice. PROTECTION OF ASSETS IN A TIME OF CHANGE FOR THE TRIANGLE

    vertex cover of a tree… Starting from any arbitrary node in a given tree T, and making this node the root of the tree for all purposes, do a full walk of the tree. Every time you return from a child node, check if the child node and the parent of the node have been matched. If none of them have been matched then go ahead and match them and add the edge between them to the matching, and add the parent node to the vertex cover. When the full walk returns to the root, we have constructed a vertex cover with size equal to a maximal matching of the tree. We constructed a maximal matching by adding each on of the edges that we added when we matched a child node and its parent.

    THINK OF A FAMILY TREE WITH THE END OF EACH BRANCH/TERMINAL POINT, YOU WOULD COUNT ONE NUMBER… A desired property of a plausible tree: Explains how the observed DNA sequences came about using few mutations…COMPARED TO RECOVERING THE TREE OF LIFE!! I THINK THIS IS A DIRECT REFERENCE TO JA NOT HAVING CHILDREN WITH BP BUT AJ DID…TERMINAL POINT IN RELATIONSHIP.

    philistines and the arc… arc is an extended or continuing storyline, or the status of a character as it unfolds throughout the story or an electric current through a gas producing light and heat. The Philistines were really a pestering agent for the Israelites…”God’s chosen”. They also took the ark to Shiloh… – ARC OF TRIANGLE WAS WHEN JA LOST BP TO AJ DUE TO HIS “ARK” OR SEED GOING TO SHILOH AND NOT TO JA’S OFFSPRING.

    who blames who in the crucible? WEAKNESS, JEALOUSY, AND MANIPULATION
    In every conflict there always seems to be at least one person to blame. In The Crucible by Arthur Miller, many problems arise that deal with live and death. Many innocent people in this play were hanged during the Salem Witch Trials. Of course, there are many people that may be blamed. In The Crucible, one may find Abigail Williams, The Putnams, and Mary Warren to blame. ABIGAIL WAS MANIPULATIVE, THE PUTNAMS WERE VERY JEALOUS, AND MARY WARREN WAS WEAK-WILLED. WHO STANDS FOR WHO IN OUR TRIANGLE?

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  62. liv4 said on September 18th, 2012 at 2:57 pm

    @louisianagurl:
    Awesome

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  63. rushdog said on September 18th, 2012 at 3:50 pm

    @louisianagurl:
    “lube-to-go” at home-type cosmetic surgery is an interesting thought esp considering her look on the recent trip. My take was very different, lol.

    And I think philistines and the arc is spot on. Shiloh or the sanctuary of shiloh is definitely motherhood.

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  64. Guest2 said on September 18th, 2012 at 9:04 pm

    Where is everyone?

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  65. fluffy said on September 18th, 2012 at 9:19 pm

    Guest 2
    I was just thinking the same thing! JP reference could also refer to Jennifer Pitt?

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  66. rushdog said on September 18th, 2012 at 9:36 pm

    Lol Guest2 this one must be a stumper or everyone is out! Here’s my latest guess combining lots of ideas posted.

    Simple plan…to revive interest…the engagements…are a neutralizing agent…considered an option…to clean a wound…and orchestrated…as preventive maintenance…by a desperate man…to protect assets and secure rights…in tree of life (family/children??)…in motherhood battles and continuing storyline..blaming each other.

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  67. rushdog said on September 18th, 2012 at 9:46 pm

    either to clean a wound or to control discharge/leaks. I can’t decide but it may be the latter.

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  68. rushdog said on September 18th, 2012 at 9:56 pm

    The quick version: bp = orchestrator..greatest conductor.

    Engagements:

    To revive interest in the couples, to neutralize motherhood wars, to repair leaks and to protect himself.

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  69. liv4 said on September 18th, 2012 at 11:13 pm

    I still think there is more to the picture. Why the loving photo of BP and JA? What are we missing? That they are still friends? Or do the lyrics of the song show regret?

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  70. Up the Coast said on September 18th, 2012 at 11:26 pm

    Wow :) It’s great reading everyone’s thoughts (hard work) on the clues. I’ve been out all day, so I’m a bit brain dead (not that I’m any good at these) But this one seems easier to understand than many of the others have been.

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  71. Up the Coast said on September 19th, 2012 at 12:50 am

    So Hilarious…… http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=phpb_ssnyug&feature=player_embedded

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  72. rushdog said on September 19th, 2012 at 6:46 am

    @liv4:
    I thought the same thing after i posted last night. The photo is an award ceremony and he’s giving her a hug…congrats for the acting nom or thx? And the tags- Ja is between bp and jp- a buffer

    Is he thanking her or congratulating her for agreeing to play the game by leveraging or acting the engagement? Because that would neutralize the mommy wars (at least w/his seed) and the triangle. It would protect from leaks by aj ( abigail) because the posts earlier this year suggest she was threatening a leak imo.

    So ja friendship would be supporting him.

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  73. Guest1 said on September 19th, 2012 at 9:58 am

    From CDAN:

    It is a whole different world of justice in New York City. Sure, the rich and the celebrities still have it a little easier, but last night Lindsay Lohan was arrested for something she probably would not have been arrested for in LA. A report would have been taken, but she probably would not have been arrested. Last night, Lindsay Lohan was driving her NYC Porsche and she hit a pedestrian. Lindsay could not be bothered with the situation and sent a minion to check on the damage to her car, not to the pedestrian, but to the car and Lindsay went inside to party. While she was inside partying someone called the police after the pedestrian had gone to the hospital and when Lindsay came out at 2am she was arrested and charged with misdemeanor hit and run. No Shawn Holley in New York to help her.

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  74. janindisguise said on September 19th, 2012 at 10:05 am

    @Guest1:

    Why is she still permitted to drive an automobile?

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  75. Guest1 said on September 19th, 2012 at 11:21 am

    @janindisguise:
    Amazing, isn’t it. I was wondering why they waited until she left the club or bar at 2:00 a.m. before arresting her. Then I figured they probably wanted to wait until she was behind the wheel with the keys in the ignition so they could get her for DWI also. I wonder if she was going to have her minion drive after partying.

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  76. liv4 said on September 19th, 2012 at 12:11 pm

    @Guest1:
    I know we are supposed to not make these so hard and “over-work” them, but to me the order of the BP, JA, JP is more like JA is standing between the JP, not sure if I think it is buffering or something more.

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  77. liv4 said on September 19th, 2012 at 12:26 pm

    If you simplify it, it sounds to me like the engagements are the flowing afterglow (separate controls can be exercised over the ions and neutrals prior to the reaction) and the lube to go is the premium maintenance.

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  78. Patty Anne said on September 19th, 2012 at 12:27 pm

    I wonder…… Brad/Jen/JANE?? Could Jane Pitt’s letter have had a more obscure purpose? Game Of Thrones anyone?@liv4:

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  79. Patty Anne said on September 19th, 2012 at 12:30 pm

    Brad was congratulating Jennifer in the above photo, for winning an award back around 2001 – 2002. So does it’s use in this riddle mean that Brad is congratulating Jennifer on something now? Her engagement to Justin? Now that Jennifer is settled and happy Brad can get over his guilt for what transpired due to his wandering privates. Perhaps also, since his films/projects all seem to be failing he may be deciding to rest on his bank , retire from acting for another venue and come out of the closet as Gay. A new start for everyone.

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  80. Guest2 said on September 19th, 2012 at 1:24 pm

    The tags really are puzzling. There’s brad, there’s jen and presumably there’s jolie/pitt or the brand. Why do brad and jen stand alone and then brad is there again as part of the brand? If ja were standing between them wouldn’t it be bp, ja, aj? And why isn’t jt mentioned in this clue if the engagement is relevant? This seems to be about the triangle and the always connection of ja/bp that kate mentioned in an earlier thread. I recall jen’s words that justin is her protector. What does she need protection from? I doubt it’s the paps. Aj and whatever info she has that if she leaks could damage ja/pitt’s reputation? Something that pitt revealed in the early stages of his relationship that he should have kept to himself and now aj threatens to reveal it? Maybe aj is out to destroy jen just because she hates her? This wouldn’t tie in to the crashed computer though. Maybe there’s more than one damaging secret to leak. Will we ever really know the truth?

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  81. sinker said on September 19th, 2012 at 1:56 pm

    **just thinking of whatever and missing her comments – sending more prayers to her son and family**

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  82. sinker said on September 19th, 2012 at 1:57 pm

    @rushdog:

    I would love to contribute but this clue has me comment-less

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  83. WCKitty said on September 19th, 2012 at 2:11 pm

    @Guest2:
    Whenever I see the initial JP, I always think it is either Jane or the JP’s. In this situation I am more apt to believe it is Jane. Maybe it does have to do with Brad coming out and Jen is acting as a buffer between Brad and his mom. Jane did just write that letter and perhaps it was either a shocked reaction or it was before she knew? Also, whatever was on that laptop may have something to do with his coming out and once Brad’s parents know the situation would be defused if Brad doesn’t care any longer what the public thinks. He can show that he has Jen’s support and that there is no longer any animosity between them and that she is now happily engaged to Justin. His popularity is on the down-slide and he could just cash-in and retire using his great architectural skills to build more ugly homes. I don’t think that Angie will be happy.

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  84. WCKitty said on September 19th, 2012 at 2:11 pm

    @Up the Coast:
    That is a very funny video! :lol:

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  85. WCKitty said on September 19th, 2012 at 2:13 pm

    @sinker:
    I’ve been wondering also about her and her son. :(

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  86. rushdog said on September 19th, 2012 at 2:25 pm

    @sinker:
    I’ve thought about her many times wondering and hoping that no news is good news. Prayers for whatever and her family.

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  87. Up the Coast said on September 19th, 2012 at 2:36 pm

    @WCKitty:
    It is very funny! And it makes me wonder if Jen is helping Brad to bring some of Brangelina’s “secrets” to the light. Is that the belly that joLIE wore with the twins? At the end of the video she looked like Marianne Pearl, didn’t she? Sure, she’s making fun of the tabloid stories about her….but maybe she’s also helping Brad, if he wants to bail…but Ange is now using bribery/fear to keep him in the “game”.

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  88. Up the Coast said on September 19th, 2012 at 2:37 pm

    @rushdog:
    +1

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  89. rushdog said on September 19th, 2012 at 2:39 pm

    @liv4:

    “amid the sound and haste” from The Desiderata of Happiness. Desiderata is the plural of desideratum which means things wanted or needed

    This is what I posted last night. I moved “engagements” into the “flowing afterglow” position per your post. This is bringing in a lot of people’s thoughts. You think we can just keep tweaking this?

    Simple plan…to revive interest…things wanted or needed…engagements..considered an option…to clean a wound/repair leaks…BP orchestrator…as premium maintenance…???by a desperate man…to protect assets and secure rights…in tree of life (family/children??)…in motherhood battles and continuing storyline..blaming each other.

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  90. Up the Coast said on September 19th, 2012 at 2:39 pm

    @Patty Anne:
    I think Jane’s letter was blatantly clear….she doesn’t want Brad to marry Ange.

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  91. Up the Coast said on September 19th, 2012 at 2:46 pm

    @Guest1:
    Her FU’d mother just told Dr Phil that 5 of her arrests would have been obsolete if she were in NY :roll: That little bitch is a menace to society, imo….and so his her mother.

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  92. rushdog said on September 19th, 2012 at 2:53 pm

    I think this riddle is about the reason for the engagements.

    imo the JP tag is the couple. Ian’s used it before and I think it referred to the couple then (although I haven’t looked back). Ian would be consistent in how he uses the initials.

    Maybe her support and “playing the game” is helping him step away from the relationship so that’s why her initials are in the middle. An attempt to regain his individual identity apart from the couple.

    Also, just some food-for-thought, with “philistines and the arc” I don’t think philistines refers to just AJ but also JH, Geyer and whoever else wanted/needed that relationship to happen and the arc to move to AJ and stay there. Maybe that even includes that organization in the un and whatever the truth is about her international travels. I’ve posted before I think there’s something more going on than helping displaced persons.

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  93. WCKitty said on September 19th, 2012 at 3:00 pm

    @Up the Coast:
    I was wondering about the hair at the end of the video. The video has a certain group of people upset and yep, that belly is very telling isn’t it? It can be put on and then taken off (hmm, video of Jolie not pregnant when she was supposed to be with the twins) and I bet it can shift to the side! :lol:

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  94. Guest2 said on September 19th, 2012 at 3:00 pm

    @WCKitty:
    It’s possible but my view of brad is that he’s bi but what do I know. Maybe after years of being emasculated by his b*tch (that’s how he appears to me) maybe he’s gotten to the point where he hates women and prefers men. I would imagine that coming out if he ever wanted to would be very difficult for him and the tptb in hw wouldput a lot of pressure on himto not do it. If bp were to come out that would shatter a lot of hw illusions and I don’t think they want that.
    @Up the Coast:
    That and the secret adult child made me wonder too if it was a dig at her.

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  95. Guest2 said on September 19th, 2012 at 3:08 pm

    @rushdog:
    After the latest round of middle east travel I’m convinced there’s more to her trips than displaced refugees. No hw actress would have that kind of access to high-level leaders unless some powerful people paved the way for some reason. I wonder about brad’s involvement and if he’s stuck ins some situation he can’t get out of easily or safely.

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  96. Payal said on September 19th, 2012 at 3:10 pm

    I highly doubt brad will ever come out as gay and I believe he is Bi not totally gay.

    Again I would have no idea where to begin with this clue lol, hopefully one day I’ll contribute and contribute well lol.

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  97. WCKitty said on September 19th, 2012 at 3:14 pm

    @Guest2:
    I also think that he is bi, but some do swing one way more than the other. I agree that a lot of people would not be happy if he came out with the truth.

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  98. Kate said on September 19th, 2012 at 3:14 pm

    I have never been able to under what Ian’s fascination is with the ions, and molecules, and electrons. Once he had a puzzle, (years ago) and used four or five of these. We beat our heads against the wall for awhile trying to understand what they pointed to. In the end they were all from the same article, and the clue, was the article, and it’s subject , not the phrases. Clever guy . Took us weeks to get one. It was an online article , so not as though he read it on a flight home and a light bulb went off, it was intentional!! Not my favorite, they require too much time. :)

    I enjoy the restaurant reviews though,so that is a plus ! I keep a list . :) Some I will visit , like the ones in Manhattan, others not because I will not be in Miami most likely ever. Ian dined with Fred twice , 2011, and this year. I don’t eat meat, so La Petite Maison might be better for me, the salads sound interesting. Brad must like steak, this is oddly the only riddle that is tagged – BP

    I do understand his love for the Old Testament, and I while I am fairly familiar, he has taught me more through the research we have done with the references he has given us with everything from, the Ark to the fertile crescent. That took on a new meaning for me last year when we were working on those clues about Jen and the decisions she was making , and the way things were being put into action apparently rather quickly. Camouflage Yarn was the most interesting one with the tag JA, Brangie. (jmo) Who could forget the “Just because I have not told you I have a baby, does not mean I do not have one! All of the JA tags except the one for for Judas Kiss, are also tagged Brangie. That makes that story ,and the one called Baby Mona Aniston even more intriguing, especially, considering when you click on Brangie, they are all about “them”. Mnay would have thought the “always” would have been more to do with that, and I am still curious about this . Some wonder , what does Jen and a baby have to do with Brad and Angelina as a unit? Why the – JA, Brangie tag -together. Better question, on the story “JA Frozen Fromage” why the tag- JP ??? International Minds want to know ?

    I love , love, love, the way Ian incorporates these blogs into the his riddles now.It is like discovering a little treasure along the way! I have bookmarked many of them because I like the sites and have shared them with family and friends. :) One that is adorable is the http://www.prissyinpink.com site ,” what is a girl girl to do”. My daughter loved that one also. (nothing to do with the clue, but we discovered it by research) She was so prissy as a toddler. I also like- Not Without Salt. Great site. Fun. The one on this clue is fun too.

    Ian loves his games, I never get those, but the songs are fun, who can forget “Last Dance” and the mealy worms in the shape of a heart? Another -JP- tag. Walking down memory lane, and this ~ just from looking at the tags above, and that is all, and still SO many questions posters have. (there is one story somewhere under JP’s which opens , just a fluke I suppose) , which I noticed before.

    Often there were many times IAN you came on over the last year and responded to someone they were right, “bingo” or “you have it except for the Xenadrine” . The ladies now are requesting feedback from -YOU- His Highness…..

    I used to look at Smokey and think, “If you were a little smarter you could tell me what you were thinking,” and he’d look at me like he was saying, “If you were a little smarter, I wouldn’t have to.” Fred Jungclaus

    No here is named Smokey. ;)

    Have a nice day ladies!

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  99. Up the Coast said on September 19th, 2012 at 3:15 pm

    @WCKitty:
    @Guest2:
    Maybe Jen is tired of watching her friend (Brad) be afraid of the psychopath who toys with him endlessly. I know how exhausting it can be…and when you finally get to a point where you think: Go ahead, tell everyone what you have on me…I don’t give a shit anymore :( Many times they just find a new victim to torment. When you’re knee deep in alligators, it’s hard to think straight…I think Ange has kept Brad knee deep in alligators for a reason.

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  100. Up the Coast said on September 19th, 2012 at 3:28 pm

    @Guest2:
    The secret adult child could be what James holds over joLIE’s head, for a bribe (greasing of the palm). So many things to choose from.

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  101. Up the Coast said on September 19th, 2012 at 3:29 pm

    @Kate:
    Yes Kate! We need feedback from Ian. At least a nudge in the right direction ;)

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  102. x said on September 19th, 2012 at 3:41 pm

    I think I figured out what Ian’s trying to say here.

    This was a concerted effort, although NOT a conspiracy, to get their lives back again and be safe. Maybe, possibly, the three people tagged (Brad, Jen and Jane) were all witness to, and victims of, the mind and behavior of a psychopath. All of them have suffered, Brad well, it’s obvious why, but Jane because she had to watch her son go through this and Jen, because she probably survived numerous attacks to her reputation (she didn’t want babies, etc…) The trifecta may have figured out that the only way they were going to get through this alive was if they bound together, supported each other, and take the high road. Be covert, be patient, be each others rock and let the law take its course. They knew it was a matter of time and that it couldn’t go on unchecked forever.

    I like the subway coupons and a paperclip reference. That tells me it didn’t take much for them to make this decision, even if it’s been difficult (to put it mildly), and there was no promise of a return on their investment other than to survive this part of their lives and finally be free from a psychopath.

    The pic above suggests Jen and Brad are good friends. And I think they are good friends. Nothing romantic, just two people who moved on and found their friendship intact after all these years. This ‘we are in this together’ pic would suggest that. Like Jen is to saying to Brad ‘it’s ok doofus, we’ll get through this’.

    Since I’m too tired to go through all the above clues with explanations, why don’t you brilliant ladies re-read the clues and put them into this context, and see if I’m onto something ;-)

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  103. rushdog said on September 19th, 2012 at 3:42 pm

    OMG Kate!!! Do we have to decipher you too??? LOL

    Thanks for those thoughts.

    Since you brought up all those riddles from last year in the JA riddle-line and linked the “prissy and pink” riddle, I will repeat what I have posted before – that there was a delivery between 8/16/11 and 9/15/11. JMO. And that would be a reason that JA would be between him and the couple. And why there would be a dynasty struggle.

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  104. rushdog said on September 19th, 2012 at 3:47 pm

    @x:
    Nice post and ideas. I’ll take the “re-read the clues” under consideration. I’m tired too.

    “and let the law take its course”

    Really…when? …because inquiring minds would like to know. :)

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  105. Guest2 said on September 19th, 2012 at 4:06 pm

    @Up the Coast:
    Or her own secret child (or two)? Hard to believe she could hide something like so well though.

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  106. Up the Coast said on September 19th, 2012 at 4:14 pm

    @x:
    I’m with you….it’s like Brad came home one day with dog poop on his shoe, and he walked all over the house before he realized it was stuck on his shoe and he couldn’t get rid of it :shock: Jen understands that he accidentally stepped in it, but it still stunk up the place, so he just had to go ;) He’s been paying for it ever since…he just can’t get rid of the stinky dog poo :cry: It’s time to get rid of those damned SHOES! :lol: I would also like to see the “law take it’s course” even if it’s only the Law of the Universe.

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  107. x said on September 19th, 2012 at 4:15 pm

    @rushdog:
    Well I think the legal aspects are already beginning to emerge. The lawsuit for one. It’s come far, much farther than most lawsuits of this nature go. It wouldn’t surprise me if the plaintiff has something damaging on the defence.

    The week long narcissists dream vacation in the shape of a UN humanitarian visit really strikes me as odd. It was overkill. And why was there a need to do something so overt, so in our faces. I think it’s more than just thinking Jen was going to display her ring the same week. It was a desperate display, imho, of someone who is trying really really hard. I think something’s coming down and it’s clear by the media lately that they are beginning to call her out.

    I think Ian has uncovered some pretty serious stuff. Can’t wait to see what is next. :-)

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  108. WCKitty said on September 19th, 2012 at 4:15 pm

    @Up the Coast:
    It’s a good sized smorgasbord! :lol:

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  109. WCKitty said on September 19th, 2012 at 4:20 pm

    @Up the Coast:
    I understand where you are coming from and the entire experience is like a bad roller-coaster ride that just leaves you totally bewildered and exhausted. :(

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  110. Up the Coast said on September 19th, 2012 at 4:38 pm

    @Guest2:
    Yea…the twins! Jen (and Beyonce) have shown us how easy it is to LOOK like you’re pregnant. duh, these people work in HW, the land of illusions. haha. Mindy the godmother was more than likely the real mother of at least one of them, if not both. We all know Ange stayed as far away from her dying mother as she could get, at that time….why? Maybe mom wasn’t “in” on it?

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  111. Up the Coast said on September 19th, 2012 at 4:47 pm

    @WCKitty:
    Exactly…they can truly effect your entire sense of reality, cuz that’s what they do best.

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  112. Up the Coast said on September 19th, 2012 at 4:47 pm

    @x:
    Xlnt point.

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  113. x said on September 19th, 2012 at 4:57 pm

    @Up the Coast:
    that is a great analogy Up the Coast. And probably pretty accurate. :-)

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  114. Liz E. said on September 19th, 2012 at 5:04 pm

    Just to bring some reality into this. Marcheline Bratrand died in January 2007. Angelina Jolie was pregnant with the twins in late 2007 and 2008 – they were born July 2008.

    Mindy Cohen is not the godmother of the twins. That was a completely made up story.

    Sorry didn’t mean to spoil the fun. ;)

    “No hw actress would have that kind of access to high-level leaders unless some powerful people paved the way for some reason”

    She has access because she was a UN Goodwill Ambassador and is now a UN Special Envoy. Meeting and conferring with these people is part of her job.

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  115. Up the Coast said on September 19th, 2012 at 5:06 pm

    Someone already said that Paperclips & Subway coupons was a cheap bribe, in that animated cartoon. And Netflix Zombies…Just a couple years ago Netflix didn’t have any zombie movies, but they recently turned to zombie movies to revive their subscribers. Now subscriptions are up and the money is flowing again.

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  116. Up the Coast said on September 19th, 2012 at 5:13 pm

    @Liz E.:
    Okay…. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2153609/Is-Mindy-Cohn-godmother-Brangelinas-brood-Facts-Of-Life-star-kept-mum-grilled-TV-interview.html
    So she’s just a friend then. And they said: Thank You for being our friend….here’s a big diamond ring.

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  117. liv4 said on September 19th, 2012 at 5:52 pm

    So many views and so many interpretations. I would say the more I think about it the above picture with BP whispering in her ear and JA smiling that they presently share a secret. If, and that is, IF, the photo has anything to do with it and Ian didn’t just pick the first one that came along.

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  118. rushdog said on September 19th, 2012 at 6:09 pm

    @liv4:
    I don’t think Ian just picks the first one that comes along. He selects the photo for a reason. It seems likw sometimes it connects to the written part of the clue and sometimes it tells a separate part of the riddle. But it does relate. This photo is from the golden globes in 2002 when she was nominated but did not win. She won in 2003

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  119. Up the Coast said on September 19th, 2012 at 6:15 pm

    @liv4:
    I also think he chose THAT picture for a reason.

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  120. rushdog said on September 19th, 2012 at 6:49 pm

    Here’s some fun trivia. Guess who else attended the 2002 GG’s? (flip through the slide show if the picture doesn’t come up)

    http://socialitelife.com/photos/a-look-back-2002-golden-globe-awards-red-carpet

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  121. Patty Anne said on September 19th, 2012 at 6:51 pm

    I totally agree!!!@liv4:

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  122. liv4 said on September 19th, 2012 at 7:16 pm

    @rushdog:Jolie and Billie Bob come right up first thing. Hmm.

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  123. ream said on September 19th, 2012 at 7:47 pm

    i have nothing to say about the clue so keeping my mouth shut. lmao i have to share this tho hope it givees u guys a smile like it did me.
    nice place to find out how to get the redneck dumpster diving look.
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2205267/Honey-Boo-Boo-Child-makes-song-dance-shows-temporary-fairy-tattoo-shopping-trip.html

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  124. Up the Coast said on September 19th, 2012 at 7:55 pm

    @liv4:
    joLIE looked hideous that night :shock:

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  125. Guest1 said on September 19th, 2012 at 7:56 pm

    @Liz E.:
    So who is their godmother, or godfather for that matter? If they don’t have either, there is nothing wrong with that, especially since neither are religious.

    Mindy Cohn was on “Watch What Happens Live” on Bravo. Andy Cohen specifically asked her if she was their godmother, and she would neither confirm or deny.

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  126. Kate said on September 19th, 2012 at 8:09 pm

    @rushdog:
    Paperclips etc..that parody is about Sasuke seeking revenge . He does not have the confidence to do so. He does not need so much to be bribed, but rather encouraged. When Sakon tells him to come with them, and Orochimaru will give him great power he hesitates, because that is not the issue, and the Tayuya says, “we have paperclips and a subway coupon too”. He then simply says OK. Off he goes with them. He already knew what he wanted to do. Later he left a note that stated he came to the decision of his own free will, was not bribed. He needed encouragement. Earlier in the clip he is pouting because he feels inferior , so he is trying to talk himself ..up. Sakura who loves him , at one point tries to get him to reconsider his decision , and he refuses. His mind is set. As in the photo above, Jen was being encouraged prior to ….not during. Like the photo he used of JH/AJ, for the incest story, he has chosen a photo that reps the people the riddle is about.

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  127. Guest1 said on September 19th, 2012 at 8:12 pm

    Now this is weird. The new Survivor starts tonight, and I just watched the beginning. Lisa Whelchel, who played Blair on The Facts of Life, is a contestant this season.

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  128. Guest2 said on September 19th, 2012 at 9:43 pm

    That is weird but apparently it’s something she’s always wanted to do.

    http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2012/09/17/facts-life-star-and-devout-christian-lisa-whelchel-said-shell-lie-like-rug-if/

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  129. rushdog said on September 19th, 2012 at 10:18 pm

    @Kate:
    I’m trying to understand this as it relates to the riddle. He decided to do something of his own free will, was not forced, bribed or blackmailed. She encouraged or is encouraging him not to go through with it. This is happening before it occurs.

    The photo/scroll is of BP and JA so the his and the her above are them. So she is trying to get him to reconsider something?

    The tags: BP, JA, JP place her in between him as an individual and as part of a couple. So she either encouraged him not to go through the engagement or she is encouraging him not go to through with the marriage.

    Then add: (are these the reasons for his decision?)

    netfilx zombies – to revive subscribers or interest
    amid the sounds and haste – things wanted or needed/happiness
    flowing afterglow – engagement or neutralizing agent
    chewing the cud – pondering
    seeping after surgery – to cleanse a wound or discharge/leak
    greatest conductors? – orchestrators or the rings
    lube-to-go – premium maintenance
    like a desperado waiting for a train – ???getting older/reflections
    action for advocacy – taking action to help someone say what they want
    vertext cover for a tree – a complex problem or tree of life
    philistines and the arc – motherhood battles
    who blames who in the crucible – they blame each other

    Any thoughts with regard to the add-ons?

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  130. liv4 said on September 19th, 2012 at 10:35 pm

    @rushdog:
    I couldn’t tell if Kate was speaking in the present sense or talking about the past.

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  131. Up the Coast said on September 19th, 2012 at 10:52 pm

    @liv4:
    Hopefully Kate will be by to tell us what she meant…past or present, but in the meantime, if she meant the present…it could be that she’s saying it didn’t take much prodding to get Brad to make the decision that he’s been pondering.

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  132. rushdog said on September 19th, 2012 at 11:49 pm

    @liv4:
    @Up the Coast:
    “to make the decision that he’s been pondering” – we all sound like were talking in gibberish! I had to chuckle over what you wrote because I felt the same way about my post – him and her.

    Past as in don’t go with her back in ‘04/’05? Or this past spring don’t do the promise for the future? Or,
    Present tense as in don’t follow through with this plan?

    I do think that I may have the right idea with the tags: Her initials in the middle represent her as a barrier or a warning or a plea…stay an individual don’t become the couple. If this is supposed to represent the distant past I have no idea what this riddle is supposed to say to us that relates to now. I’ll have to back and think about it.

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  133. fluffy said on September 20th, 2012 at 12:45 am

    Rushdog

    Remember the train wreck clue some time ago just after the Brangelina breakdown. There was a photo of AJ in between BP and JA suggesting that she can between them. This time JA appears to be between BP and JP
    The photo that Ian has used BP and JA show love and warmth between them. Instead he could of picked a photo showing tension.

    Any thoughts?

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  134. Guest2 said on September 20th, 2012 at 7:31 am

    @Liz E.:
    Please explain how a barely educated actress with a drug riddled past, nude photos all over the internet (including suggestive photos with animals) and whose own personal behavior, i.e., adultery and bearing children out of wedlock, becomes a special UN envoy to a part of the world where that personal behavior would cause a woman to be an outcast and possibly stoned to death by the more radical elements. In no reality does that make any kind of sense. You’re not a stupid person so why do you insist on trying to force this garbage down our throats? Why are you an apologist for jolie?

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  135. Patty Anne said on September 20th, 2012 at 10:13 am

    +1@Guest2:

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  136. Guest2 said on September 20th, 2012 at 12:16 pm

    OT but a good read about the “crisis” in the middle east.

    http://worldnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/09/20/13978780-analysis-manufactured-outrage-behind-middle-east-protests?lite&ocid=msnhp

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  137. Up the Coast said on September 20th, 2012 at 12:39 pm

    @Guest2:
    +1 Very nicely said.

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  138. Up the Coast said on September 20th, 2012 at 12:39 pm

    @Guest2:
    Oh….I meant +2 :)

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  139. Up the Coast said on September 20th, 2012 at 12:46 pm

    @rushdog:
    You make it look so easy :) And it makes perfect sense.

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  140. toastypostems said on September 20th, 2012 at 1:23 pm

    Dear Lizzy Lizzy Lizzy:
    Guest2 Number, as a opposed and not to be confused with guest1 or guest3, has a significantly excellent point, why are shoveling driveling dribble down our respective throats. Guest number2 makes a very fine point, and a very fine point, quite pointedly indeed, ……I might add. In this part of the world, they would not just stone her, they would shoot her in the head in a soccer stadium in front of a large crowd, they would wrap her in a burial and take her out and literally cut her head “OFF,” as in striking her head completely and totally right off of her body, they could hang her by the neck from a crane, they could pound her out until her face was completely, and quite literally, smashed in, well beyond disfigurement!!! Holly Jolly Bumbling Bobble Bubble Head town pumping hose hound peen player, clammy clam bumper, in no way represents normal people here in the US, or really anywhere else in the real world. This area of the world, the middle east, has been committing “so called honor killings for centuries.” This moronic fool, is just that, a crumby loser, desperately attempting to stay relevant in a world run by advertising smegma eating schmuck headed chuckle heads.

    Remember this bloated brain fart was the one that attempted to sell us on the idea that George Devil Head, whom claims he was and is Jewish and a victim of ole Uncle Addy Hitler, WWII, the Haul oh cost, while Bumbling Bobble Head, will tell you quite emphatically that ole George Devil Head is really this great wonderful guy who happens to be a “Muslim.” So which is it?

    She walks around in a burk a,…………. like she is some great defender of the faith, asks any thinking person to suspend their own views, because why? Because she is oh so so so more sophisticated than anyone else!!! Pullleaseeeee, maybe you and bobble need to go see a doc, and gets your selves some meds. The rest of us can read, write, observe, delineate the various distinctions represented by her fake folly, and low life crap. She really is no different than lohunz, or bivelbuttholehead, jellybutthole, or the rest. They may have more money than the average person. That’s about it though. They are not just democrats, they are far far far leftist jerks. They attempt to sensationalize everything in life, and get paid doing it. They attempt to sit in “Judgement ,”of everyone, and everything, all the while telling everyone else, they are a bigot, a racist, a homophobic fool, and we just are not sophisticated enough to divine reality and truth. Ohhhhh ….I know, we’ll get married when everyone else can get married. I don’t need this moron, or any other hollywood head, for that matter, telling me what to think, how to think, or that I am not thinking correctly because I just do not understand. This is what most would refer to as stinking thinking!!

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  141. Elby said on September 20th, 2012 at 1:45 pm

    The problem of finding a minimum vertex cover is a classical optimization problem in computer science. In mathematics and computer science, an optimization problem is the problem of finding the best solution from all feasible solutions. Finding a solution for JH’s computer problem?

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  142. Guest2 said on September 20th, 2012 at 1:56 pm

    @Up the Coast:
    This last UN show of hers is so over the top I don’t understand why more people aren’t questioning why she’s in that position. The only reasons I can think of that the muslim world tolerates her are her pro-muslim/anti-Israel views (according to her father) and possibly other activities I’ve read about elsewhere. Will we ever know the truth?

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  143. liv4 said on September 20th, 2012 at 2:05 pm

    @Elby:Could be the computer or anything, but I think you hit the nail on the head, they are trying to find a solution to some bad publicity.

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  144. Up the Coast said on September 20th, 2012 at 2:38 pm

    @Guest2:
    Of course…WE know the truth, YOU just stated it :) I have no idea how she is able to walk among those people without being stoned, except for the fact that they have no idea who the hell she is!!!!! I think some people are aware and that’s why some of the stories are now referring to her as the angel of death. I used to be shocked that (seemingly) intelligent people would try to justify her behavior, but I’m just annoyed by it now. There is so much ridiculousness going on in the world, she just blends in with the rest of the lunatics (narcissistic/psychopaths). I’m praying that simple common sense will make a rebound soon ;) since everything seems to come back in style, eventually.

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  145. Tetta said on September 20th, 2012 at 7:08 pm

    You have made many suggestions about the clue. I believe all of them as we don´t know the right answers. But if I pic a suggestion here and one there it could be like this:

    In secret (the photo, Brad and Jennifer are talking in secret or about a secret.) there is a plan for Brad how to escape. The constructers didn´t need much to persuade him to go with them. During the time it takes to make the plan Brad tries to cover the leak and is chewing the cad, he is like a desperado waiting for the train to take him away. The greatest conductors of the plan, how to lupe the way out for Brad are Jennifer and Jane Pitt. They make actions of advocasy, they “clear the road” to get Brad out of the mess. They arrange a vortex for Brads tree, his six kids, so that they not will be hurt. Who is David
    ( Brad ? ) and who is Goliat ( Angelina ? ) Is it Brad or Angelina who have made the Brangelina concept melt down ?

    There are many more details to be explained but this is one of my versions.

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  146. Guest2 said on September 20th, 2012 at 7:31 pm

    Speaking of psychopaths, this is a really strange story about Lisa Whelchel of Facts of Life. Sorry to go off topic again but this is so weird.

    http://www.nationalenquirer.com/celebrity/exclusive-lisa-whelchel-survives-doomed-marriage

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  147. Up the Coast said on September 20th, 2012 at 7:49 pm

    @Guest2:
    wow :shock: people are strange

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  148. Up the Coast said on September 20th, 2012 at 8:03 pm

    @Tetta:
    +1 :)

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  149. liv4 said on September 20th, 2012 at 9:11 pm

    @Tetta: That makes sense as do other versions. This is why I think sometimes these clues are torture, but the clues do lead me to some interesting places.

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  150. toastypostems said on September 20th, 2012 at 11:02 pm

    another thing, that pic for this set of clues was used in the past, recycling photos in the clue box. tis is a rehash of rehash, this group has already been over these clues. I think someone is sitting in the can, writing away, trying to protect themselves, that’s why the fake server registration data. this is more about national politics, and how very dirty it is. here is my take on the whole banana, Shiela Jackson Lee defends the Scienos, …………………why? Almost all of Hollywood are scienos, they contribute heavily to the congress, the heart of graft and corruption. That is why Katie Holmes recently split….”Not with my kid, you certainly will not,” the stars give to the scienos to keep working, the scienos give to congress, the congress covers up for the scieno law breaking and vice versa The american taxpayer takes it up the butt, and the cycle continues.

    Most of Hollywood head s are queer and scieno, thats one of the big secrets, and they want the money to keep flowing.

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  151. Tetta said on September 21st, 2012 at 4:27 am

    @liv4:

    The clues are often frustrating but most of the guests try to find the message in them. It´s so interesting to read about the different opinions and see where they take us. I must admit I learn a lot of things from the comments. Many times I have to use google to understand what they means. Probably because I don´t understand the english to 100 % and the fact some guests have extra ordinary knowledges about different items.

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  152. toastypostems said on September 21st, 2012 at 4:55 am

    Tetta……
    Its just like a mystery novel, what we all here in the states call, a who dunnit, as in who did it, who are the culprits. This was a long term plan. You see America is what actually brings freedom to the world. The United States represents the worlds reserve currency (as in the US dollar) It is what all other currency’s are based upon. That upsets many disparate groups worldwide. Nearly all of the International gangster banksters come from old Europe. Pre-WorldWar II. All of the narcotics some from the third world, nearly all wars have broken out on either old European soil, or in the the third world. The only thing that stands in the way of WWII, is the US. Things aren’t looking so rosy right now.

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  153. Tetta said on September 21st, 2012 at 10:02 am

    Now I have spent some time learning about “flowing afterglow” and in the end it became interesting. As soon as I got the connection with mass spectrometry I woke up. Uppsala University, Sweden ( I live in Uppsala ) has one of the greatest facilities for analyzes of mass spectrometry in the world. Perhaps I ought to say “had” as the science develops fast and perhaps there now are other places who has better tools. In every article which describes the phenomena Flowing-afterglow mass spectrometry there are two words that make me think of BP,AJ,Ja and JJ. It´s the word “quadrupole” ( not a triangle any more but a quadruple) and the word “urin”. In the “flowing afterglow” you are able to test urine and look for different substances. Then I think of BP and AJ. But I think I go for the “quadrupole”. I guess I´m far away from the easy way to solve Ian´s clues but still I let you know about what I found. But I´m way out of my comfort zone.

    From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    This article provides insufficient context for those unfamiliar with the subject. Please help improve the article with a good introductory style. (October 2009)
    Flowing-afterglow mass spectrometry, FA-MS, is a sensitive and quantitative mass spectrometry analytical approach that offers a route to on-line, real-time deuterium abundance measurements in water vapour in breath and above aqueous liquids, including urine and serum.[1] This method involves the production and flow of thermalised hydrated hydronium cluster ions in inert helium or argon carrier gas along a flow tube following the introduction of a humid air sample. These ions react in multiple collisions with water molecules, their isotopic compositions reach equilibrium and the relative magnitudes of their isotopomers are measured by a quadrupole mass spectrometer located downstream.

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  154. Guest2 said on September 21st, 2012 at 10:30 am

    @Tetta:
    I’m impressed with your finding for quadruple. With this interpretation, where the clue is tagged with only three people would that mean jt does not have a significant role in this dramedy but is more of a protecter to one of the leads?

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  155. Tetta said on September 21st, 2012 at 11:46 am

    @Guest2:

    Justin probably doesn´t take an active role in the eventual drama ” save Brad “. As you say ” he is more of a protecter to one of the leads “. Jane Pitt and Jennifer are perhaps the two people who Brad trust the most. It´s hard to know about his dad and siblings, he probably trust them too. But to take part in an act where you try to help an addict or a person in need you must have a special connection with the person and you also need to have a caring personality which I think both JP and JA has.

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  156. Guest2 said on September 21st, 2012 at 1:24 pm

    @Tetta:
    Good points. So I guess save brad is the best interpretation of this clue. Now if only Ian would give us a hint as to whether we’re on the right track.

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  157. Patty Anne said on September 21st, 2012 at 1:36 pm

    Thanks Tetta, that helps a lot. I think this refers to Brad having become an addict as was speculated awhile back during his Homeless-Man-Onsie-Wearing days. Could be the help is to support him in efforts to get off hard drugs, or to remain off them with such a bad influence as his baby-momma.@Tetta:

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  158. Up the Coast said on September 21st, 2012 at 2:46 pm

    @Tetta:
    I also got the impression that the FA-MS might have something to do with drug testing, hence…drug problem. And whether it is a drug problem, a mental problem, or both…it might complicate things for Brad and the kids, if he’s trying to leave in one piece….but would it really? There are 6 nannies afterall (what DO the nannies do???) So will it really effect the children that much? IDK.
    IF joLIE has a drug problem, that can be dealt with, even if it takes her a lifetime. But her mental problems are a whole other story :( I’m starting to think their big secret is Ange’s drug/mental problems.

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  159. Up the Coast said on September 21st, 2012 at 2:49 pm

    Oh no…. http://www.tmz.com/2012/09/21/the-lone-ranger-dead-drowns-dies-crew-member/

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  160. Tetta said on September 21st, 2012 at 3:57 pm

    @Up the Coast:

    As it was a diver that died it seems like a stunt going wrong. It´s a thing you don´t think ever would happen. In my eyes the stuntmen are so skilled that they can do everything. It must be a chock for both the cast, crew and the family of the dead person.

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  161. Tetta said on September 21st, 2012 at 4:11 pm

    @Up the Coast:

    If it´s Brad who is addicted he probably can´t be to any help for the children. And I think the nannies are strictly supervised by Angelina. A long time ago I read that AJ forbid the nannies to correct the children as it could hurt their free spirit. But if Brad is ill / drug addicted it has to be be a terrible situation in the family since AJ probably is mentally ill and a also a drug addict. There is no one in charge. Perhaps that´s the reason we havn´t seen the family together for a long time

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  162. Up the Coast said on September 21st, 2012 at 4:30 pm

    @Tetta:
    I always question: What DO the nannies do? Because I don’t think they are real (licensed) nannies, I think they are just overpaid babysitters who are afraid to stand up to Mrs. Bonkers for fear of losing their paycheck. I would like to think that REAL licensed nannies would be raising those kids better/healthier and questioning their crazy “mother” who thinks that letting them run wild and eat junk food, while she chooses their gender “role” is what’s best for them. I think they are glorified housekeepers and child minders.

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  163. Tetta said on September 21st, 2012 at 4:40 pm

    @Up the Coast:

    I share your feelings about the nannies. Angelina has chosen people who are not so clever and who don´t dare to question what they are told to do. I guess they are very well paid. I hope I´m wrong. But if there is only one educated nanny that would have to been enough to put an end to the madness we have seen since Shiloh was born.

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  164. Up the Coast said on September 21st, 2012 at 4:51 pm

    @Tetta:
    I don’t think you are wrong, and I agree that if there were even one that was educated enough, they would be compelled to say/do something, for the sake of the kids. If they’re giving the kids soda to drink in the morning…to get them going, who knows what the rest of them are doing to get going.

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  165. Guest2 said on September 21st, 2012 at 8:19 pm

    There was a young Asian nanny with a very sweet face that the children seemed happy around. The photo is from the last time they were in the UK (filming wwz, I think). There were lots of photos taken during that time. If the kids are being home schooled there must be at least one tutor. There was also another heavyset woman at that time who seemed to always hover in the background looking really worried about the children when they were around crowds. I thought both women looked like mature, experienced nannies. I know it’s hard to tell that from photos but that’s the feeling I got when I saw them.

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  166. WR said on September 22nd, 2012 at 2:33 am

    The National Enquirer has a current story about AJ. I browsed as I waited in line. There’s something about AJ needing to have a liver transplant. Hope the article is wrong, and she is okay.

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  167. Tetta said on September 22nd, 2012 at 4:56 am

    @Guest2:

    We can see the nannies in the background in some of all the photo ops we have seen. A few of them have shown the children behave much more comfortable and familiar with nannies and bodyguards than with their parents. There where photos of Pax and a bodyguard that showed how close they where. If I´m right they called the bodyguard “Chisel”. There also is a video that shows how Pax or if it was Zahara running around and the kid kept running to a bodyguard instead of Brad. I think both these bodyguards are gone from the family by now. My guess is that Angelina doesn´t allow the children to get too familiar with the staff. And I think Chisel had to leave because Angelina also got a bit too close to him.

    @WR If you go to Female First, to the Angelina and Brad section you will find a post about this article. As far as I understand most comments are about Angelina having Hepatite C.

    And in the end, where did all of you disappeared ? I do hope I didn´t “kill” the thread with my comment about Flowing Afterglow. There are more options how to solve this clue and more aspects beside the F-A.

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  168. Guest2 said on September 22nd, 2012 at 8:17 am

    @Tetta:
    Tetta, there have been so many interpretations of these clues that all sound good it’s hard to know which is the right one without a nod from Ian. I think kate was trying to point us in the right direction but I didn’t understand her either. I’m hopeless with these riddles but I like reading all the interpretations. If anyone should ever talk about flowing afterglow at a party I will at least be able to say, ah, yes, flowing afterglow (but not much more) :)

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  169. Tetta said on September 22nd, 2012 at 11:34 am

    @Guest2:
    That´s how I think about it too. Now I can say ” yes, I understand” when someone talks about flowing afterglov

    !Kate, and even Rushdog, please come back and explain what you mean with
    some easier words. You have to write as you had a bunch of 10-years kids in front of you ! :lol:

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  170. Up the Coast said on September 22nd, 2012 at 1:07 pm

    @Guest2:
    +1 :lol:

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  171. Up the Coast said on September 22nd, 2012 at 1:11 pm

    I agree that there have been some xlnt interpretations of the clues….now we need to know if we are on the right track, otherwise there’s no where else to go. help us Ian.

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  172. WCKitty said on September 22nd, 2012 at 1:26 pm

    @Tetta:
    I am terrible at deciphering these clues so I am just reading what everybody else is saying.

    I have been reading that thread over at FF and I am wondering if this article is not to just garner sympathy as another poster wrote because of her upcoming trial and other reasons. Isn’t the NE one of her mouthpieces?

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  173. Tetta said on September 22nd, 2012 at 1:56 pm

    @WCKitty:

    It could be to get sympathy and it could at the same time be an attempt to change focus from the plagiarism case. I don´t know much about the US Magazines and which one supports who. After all this time I ought to know but as I just see pictures of their covers on the web they all are artificial for me.

    This morning I read all comments from the beginning and here are so many clever thoughts it´s a pity they just fall down to nothing. I wonder who ” x ” is who thought Ian has found something big. The possibility to be anonymous on the web is disturbing to me. I want WC Kitty to be WC Kitty and not anyone else and the same thing with Rushdog, Up the Coast, Kate, Guest2 and so on. I don´t like the idea that anyone could use these “names” pretending to be the moniker we know. Or that anyone of us can choose another avi pretending to be someone else. I know “x” has written comments earlier but I would like to know if x writes comment with another avi. X is just one example . There are many others I would like to know more about :)

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  174. Up the Coast said on September 22nd, 2012 at 7:18 pm

    wow….it’s quiet around here today ;)

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  175. Guest2 said on September 22nd, 2012 at 7:33 pm

    @Up the Coast:
    I don’t know what else to say about this riddle. We’ve picked angie apart for her UN extravaganza and the other players have gone underground and seem to be in hiding. Speaking of the queen of the middle east, did you see that video at ff of her arrival in Kurdistan?

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  176. Up the Coast said on September 22nd, 2012 at 8:55 pm

    @Guest2:
    :lol: yes, I saw it…the whore of babylon arrives by air, wearing her caftan :roll: I’m surprised she didn’t ride in on her horse! I also noticed all the refugees were taking pictures of her with their cell phones. Then…she yabbered away for a few minutes, blah, blah, blah.

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  177. rushdog said on September 22nd, 2012 at 10:51 pm

    @Up the Coast:
    Refugees have cell phones?

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  178. rushdog said on September 22nd, 2012 at 10:58 pm

    @Tetta:
    You didn’t kill the thread with your thoughts. It’s interesting that this thread is slow with posts. Maybe we got out of practice a bit because Ian didn’t post much this summer but that is normal. He seems to be occupied with other things in the summer. Plus all parties in the riddle have had an extended very low key period. It’s hard to get an idea where he’s starting again.

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  179. rushdog said on September 22nd, 2012 at 11:17 pm

    T@Guest2:
    “Protector of one of the leads”
    well that would be ja…i felt last summer he was brought in to do just that…give the appearance of a relationship for a reason…to cover something maybe. As time went on it seemed as though something may have clicked between the two of them but i’m still on the fence on that. But i definitely believe it was an arranged relationship for a reason.

    Ian posted in the “groovin” riddle! Busted and disgusted.” Does playing the game fall in that category? Or would it need to be faking an engagement to bring it to that level? I also believe Kate was trying to point us in a certain direction. The lengthy post brought up all the ja “just because i haven’t told you” type posts. Imo that would be a reason to make the triangle a quad while one party navigates out of the results from a series of choices.

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  180. Guest2 said on September 23rd, 2012 at 12:10 am

    @rushdog:
    Oddly (for me), I find myself on the fence as well and I’m not sure why. Maybe it’s jen referring to him as her protector but I also remember an interview she gave early last year where she said she hadn’t dated in 18 months. This was before jt. It stuck in my mind maybe because of the riddles at the time. The one you mention was March 30, 2011.

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  181. Guest2 said on September 23rd, 2012 at 12:11 am

    @rushdog:
    That was my thought too!

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  182. Up the Coast said on September 23rd, 2012 at 12:51 am

    @rushdog:
    That was my thought too!

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  183. WR said on September 23rd, 2012 at 4:04 am

    Tomorrow is Emmy night. Now I can see some of the faces that are not familiar to me. I do not get some cable, (too expensive!) so I’m in the dark as to many of the nominees.
    Regarding the Kennedy Center honorees: Letterman? Oh, well! I do like his politics. Understand, Doris Day has turned down the honor in the past.

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  184. WR said on September 23rd, 2012 at 4:16 am

    Have been avoiding the talking circle. Too much hatred from certain ones. Wow, they hate Obama! But we do have those who will vote for him, and these two factions do have words, strong words for their opponent.
    One hears all sort of interesting viewpoints. One guy is at the computer researching conspiracies, a lot. He’s very interesting! He, and a fellow Italian went at it, again, today. One is small, but feisty; the other is big and foul-mouthed. (He’s the one who was in show biz, and blurts out who is/was lesbian, gay, etc!)
    I was trying to be the peacemaker. They drove the women away. But there are other times, other places for the women to meet.

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  185. I don't speak English said on September 23rd, 2012 at 4:18 am

    Ellen’s Season 10 Celebrity Outtakes
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dL0SvKXRjIw&feature=player_embedded

    I love it

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  186. WR said on September 23rd, 2012 at 4:22 am

    Oh, I should mention that some think the violent protests in North Africa, and the Middle East is most probably orchestrated by outside factions!

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  187. guest3 said on September 23rd, 2012 at 9:39 am

    I still haven’t figured out if you gals are really JA’s fans or you have a hatred for Angie. JA and Brad don’t speak ! Her father said it. It’s obvious to most sane people that they are not getting back together after 8 years.. they haved moved on or least Brad has. Brad loves Angie and the family they built. I guess you really don’t like JTX. I know he’s a loser. Blindsided his girlfriend of 14 years and her mother. He went from living in a NYC walk-up just last year to a $21 mansion, driving a Mercedes Benz .. when no one heard of this man in 2011.
    I believe her latest Smartwater commercial confirmed that there was never a miscarriage or two. No woman would joke about being pregnant if they lost a baby. I just don’t see Mariah Carey, C Cox. Kirstie Alley. Nicole Kidman, Beyonce, Bette Midler, all who’ve suffered a miscarriage (s) joke about tab pregnancies.
    But I get it JA is different than most woman famous or not.

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  188. x said on September 23rd, 2012 at 10:34 am

    @guest3:
    You know guest 3, being a ‘jen fan’ and an ‘Angie hater’ are not mutually exclusive. Wait…I’ll slow it down for you.

    Maybe there are some of us on this board who don’t buy into any of the tabloid stuff and made for romance HW story being pushed because we know better. Some of us on this board work or have worked in the industry, or have been around it enough to know what it’s about. We aren’t celeb-centric, meaning we don’t pay any attention to the celebrity world, other than looking at it as a business. We don’t read tabs because we know they’re just marketing pieces, and we have an understanding that these are just people…brands…that are money makers for lots of other people who make up their ‘teams’. Or, we don’t work in the business, but have just been around enough or are old enough, to have asked a lot of questions…

    Now, if you can understand that, we have found some common ground. Can you wrap your head around that? I hope you can…because all of your posts seem to be very pro-celeb, pro-story, pro-brand (and by that I mean the brand that celebrities try to sell, not the Brand as is B and A).

    Please try to grasp the above concept. Ok? Good, I’ll continue.

    We don’t hate/like anyone. We see these people as people, who are working, people who have a job to do. We, do however, look at them in that job and notice the lengths they’ll go to do that job. We see them as people. We look at them the same way we would look at anyone. Some of us see Brad and Angie as people who are behaving and have behaved badly, and are manipulating the fans (which would be you in this case), with faux stories in an attempt to keep their brand alive, and for them to continue the money making machine. It probably gets most of us perturbed, if not downright angry, by how many people buy into this blatent manipulation, and brainwashing perpetrated by people who are only motivated by greed, money and power, and who really doesn’t care that much about anything but their own image. And they are not being called out on it. We look at them the same way we’d look at…an Enron Executive. If you’re too young to remember that story, you should look it up. It’s outrageous what those people got away with.

    There, I hope I explained it for you and I hope that helps you understand. Maybe it will even help you open your eyes and mind to other possibilities…and broaden your horizons. See? I don’t hate you either. :-)

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  189. x said on September 23rd, 2012 at 10:54 am

    oh and btw, I have had two miscarriages (and much more heartbreak re: children I’m not willing to share here) and I often make the same crude, albeit HILARIOUS joke, that in your estimation would prove I didn’t have a miscarriage either.

    It’s an ongoing joke I use monthly, and just thinking about it makes me laugh. I just laughed typing this. I would love to share it but I have to say it is crude.

    Anyway, I’ve been through absolute heartbreak when it comes to birthing, and I make jokes. I have to – it helps me heal.

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  190. Tetta said on September 23rd, 2012 at 12:18 pm

    @x:
    Thank You “X” for a very well balanced answer to Guest3. You covered my thoughts and I believe other guests thoughts too.

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  191. Guest2 said on September 23rd, 2012 at 12:20 pm

    @x:
    You said that perfectly but I’m afraid you just can’t slow it down enough to get through to g3. It totally misses the point of nearly every comment here. Sorry for your miscarriages and I understand that humor can help when dealing with loss and heartbreak but you would need a sense of humor to understand that which these loons don’t have. They have tunnel vision with only one purpose which is to defend aj. It’s hard to reason with the irrational.

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  192. Patty Anne said on September 23rd, 2012 at 12:27 pm

    HaHaHaHa, Thanks so much for that video clip, I don’t know when I’ve laughed so much! Jen is always so sweet and funny, but when paired with Ellen, …..wow!@I don’t speak English:

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  193. Patty Anne said on September 23rd, 2012 at 12:30 pm

    BRAVO~! Very Well Explained~! That’s it exactly…..and why the rabid Brangie fans are so very frustrating.@x:

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  194. WCKitty said on September 23rd, 2012 at 1:50 pm

    “I just don’t see Mariah Carey, C Cox. Kirstie Alley. Nicole Kidman, Beyonce, Bette Midler, all who’ve suffered a miscarriage (s) joke about tab pregnancies.”

    I don’t read the tabloids, but I do read the headlines for a laugh while in the checkout line at the grocery store. I believe Jen was just having fun with the tabloid rumors and not about her miscarriages. I also don’t ever remember any of the fore-mentioned actresses being constantly labeled as being pregnant in the tabloids.
    @x:
    I agree, very well said and I am very sorry to hear about your heartbreak in regards to your children.

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  195. Up the Coast said on September 23rd, 2012 at 2:53 pm

    @Guest2:
    War is good for business :( http://ndn.org/blog/2010/09/connecting-refugees-mobile-phones

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  196. Up the Coast said on September 23rd, 2012 at 3:08 pm

    @x:
    Big hug to you. You can only cry for so long, then you have to move on…laughing at yourself doesn’t change anything, but it’s healthier than drowning in the drama of it. xxx
    As for explaining anything to an Ange fan…..I would say that, anyone who watches joLIE disembark from the UN helicopter, in her caftan :lol: acting like her mere presence will change their “world” :shock: and buys into that crap….may not have the capacity to understand REALITY ;)

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  197. janindisguise said on September 23rd, 2012 at 3:39 pm

    @Up the Coast:
    The Whore of Babylon!!!!!!!!!! Hahahahaha! But then, WHO KNOWS?

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  198. x said on September 23rd, 2012 at 4:05 pm

    @Up the Coast:
    I know you are right. No doubt about it. But maybe, just maybe, I can say something that will make her ask a question or two. Crazier things have happened. :-)

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  199. x said on September 23rd, 2012 at 4:08 pm

    Thank you lovely ladies for the kind words.

    mmmmmppphha

    (that was me blowing you all a big juicy kiss!)

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  200. Up the Coast said on September 23rd, 2012 at 5:49 pm

    @janindisguise:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZ97wzMOOS0
    :shock:

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  201. Tetta said on September 23rd, 2012 at 5:54 pm

    It feels so good to know a lot of bad stuff about the big stars. Brad and Angelina have tried hard to live up to an image of two superstars with a big happy family. We, who have followed Ian for a couple of years, have learnt step by step how their real life looks even if we have lost some details. The fun thing is that we have quite the different view of them than the picture they want us to have. How long will it take before the right picture of them will reach the big public ? There are people who doesn´t care at all because they are occupied by other interest. But most people who lives a normal life can´t get away from seeing the magazines when they wait in line for paying the food. I hope they also will know about who they really are. What the loons think doesn´t even matter. They will move on to another blog and try to destroy the posts. I really hope Brad and Angelina will be caught with something really bad that will make big letters on the magazines covers. It sounds like I´m a very bad person who wishes them bad luck but they have made so much bad things and fooled normal human beings to believe they are stars to look up to. I hope “x” is right and that Ian has something big about them that will bring them down to the level they deserve.

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  202. Guest2 said on September 23rd, 2012 at 6:28 pm

    I’d be happy to just have the truth about brangie come out because it is not what they present to the public. I especially want to see angie knocked off that self-righteous “I’m better than the rest of you” pedestal she’s put herself on. That’s the most offensive thing about her.

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  203. Tetta said on September 23rd, 2012 at 6:58 pm

    @Guest2:

    I agree, especially since she landed a helicopter in the dessert dressed like she was on her way to the Red Carpet to say 10 words to some journalist. After that I think her pedestal became twice as high as before.

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  204. rushdog said on September 23rd, 2012 at 7:43 pm

    @x:
    This comment was excellent. Very well put.

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  205. rushdog said on September 23rd, 2012 at 8:13 pm

    @guest3:
    I’m not a Jen fan just like her better than the others. (Actually I’m not really a “fan” of anyone, not really my personality.). I can find criticism in some things she does. And I don’t hate AJ but have specific criticisms of her and that’s why I started watching this longer ago than I care to admit. I just don’t believe she changed her life. Whether the Brand remains a couple is an extension of that initial disbelief. The rise of AJ was a strategy to get her to the top probably planned in large part by Geyer. I’m watching the rise of Blake Lively w/great interest because it looks like a similar strategy to me. I believe she said recently she wanted 30 kids (or something like that). Now if you add in a few humanitarian photos and the picture begins to look familiar, like back in’02-’03. Marketing strategy.

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  206. rushdog said on September 23rd, 2012 at 8:19 pm

    @WR:
    Yes I’m looking sceptically at that too. New world order. Probably different sides vying for influence and control. Wonder how much interference the US is causing. Ugh.

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  207. fluffy said on September 24th, 2012 at 1:30 am

    Has any one noticed that when you scroll down on the picture it says Brad-Pitt-Jennifer-Aniston.
    I wonder why Ian has written this way. Is this suggesting that they are still connected.

    If you scroll down to the previous post he does not usually write the names in the same- format

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  208. fluffy said on September 24th, 2012 at 1:30 am

    Has any one noticed that when you scroll down on the picture it says Brad-Pitt-Jennifer-Aniston.
    I wonder why Ian has written this way. Is this suggesting that they are still connected.

    If you scroll down to the previous post he does not usually write the names in the same- format

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  209. janindisguise said on September 24th, 2012 at 2:08 am

    @Up the Coast:
    Thanks IUC. I watched that video. Cah=reep-ee. Creepy music, creepy men, creepy dance moves. Eww. Eww. Eww. I am just about sleeping sitting up in front of puter screen.

    Had me birthday today. Went to my favorite Greek restaurant in a Mayberry-type town- actually it’s an artsy little town not far from me. Had a nice day. Had a large nap and got lots of birthday wishes. That felt good. Makes up for the number of years. Heh. Actually it doesn’t matter. I am a true miracle if you knew – so I’m happy God woke me up again today.

    Hope all are well and Peaceful. I REFUSE to allow this evil world to steal my Peace.

    Love to all and to all a goodnight.

    JK

    P.S. Oh yes read about AJ’s happy return home to France from Iraq. Please correct me if I’m wrong, but isn’t that country’s great export = opium as in heroin…………….?

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  210. rushdog said on September 24th, 2012 at 7:44 am

    @janindisguise:
    Happy Birthday! Glad to hear you had a nice day!

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  211. Tetta said on September 24th, 2012 at 8:11 am

    @janindisguise:

    A belated Happy Birthday ! I agree with Rushdog, Glad you had a nice day !

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  212. Tetta said on September 24th, 2012 at 8:13 am

    Does anyone know where Dream and Siska are ? Have they done a mutual decision to skip this clue ?

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  213. Guest2 said on September 24th, 2012 at 10:07 am

    @janindisguise:
    Happy birthday, Jan, glad you had a nice day. I think Iraq’s biggest export is oil but Kurdistan does border Iran (their language is a form of the Iranian language) and that is a route used to get drugs from southeast Asia to Europe so who knows. I see a major smug alert in the photo of aj arriving in France. Something’s going her way, I wonder what it is.

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  214. Payal said on September 24th, 2012 at 10:18 am

    happy belated birthday jan!! hope u had a good one!

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  215. x said on September 24th, 2012 at 10:57 am

    Thanks for the update Ian. Hope you had a wonderful vacation with your lovely daughter :-)

    I have my reservations about SeaWorld, since my heart breaks for those sea creatures who just want to be free and are not able to be! Now, dolphin and whale watching in the wild from a boat is my kind of thing, and I would love to do that. I just can’t support holding things captive, know what I mean? Anyway, thanks for the update and travel reco. :-)

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  216. Guest2 said on September 24th, 2012 at 11:11 am

    Thanks for the update, Ian. Now, would the riddle solvers please come here and tell us what it means.

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  217. Tetta said on September 24th, 2012 at 12:11 pm

    Thank You Ian, the update is welcome. If you have spent some time there it sounds like you had a good stay .

    Ian recommends a nice hotel but I think he also has connected the update with the clue. The first thing that hits me is that Ian says ” the hotel offers spacious and economically efficient rooms ” and “the pool …… again at an affordable prices”. The hotel deserves five stars instead of four. The photo of the hotel is tagged “renaissance seaworld”. The clue begins with “paperclips and subways coupon”. It makes me think of something that isn´t expensive. Is Brangelinas or if it´s Brad´s chateau in France built in a reainessance way ? I must look to see what is said about Chateau Miraval. I have said it earlier that I think the chateau is rebuilt to be a hotel. But I have thought of a luxury expensive spa- and conference notell. Of course it could be both affordable and price worthy at the same time, as the Reainessance Seaworld Hotel in Orlando. But the chateau in France is far from the sea.

    More suggestions, please !

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  218. Up the Coast said on September 24th, 2012 at 12:15 pm

    @janindisguise:
    Happy Birthday! :)

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  219. Up the Coast said on September 24th, 2012 at 12:21 pm

    @x:
    I’m with you on that! When my kids were young, we took them to Sea World in San Diego, and right when you get inside the gate there was a shallow concrete swimming pool with an old dolphin who had a bunch of knicks on it’s back…it was just swimming in a circle, like it was going crazy :cry: It was heartbreaking!!! I could never go back :( The Monterey Bay Aquarium is a better place to see (captive) wildlife, imo.

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  220. Up the Coast said on September 24th, 2012 at 12:22 pm

    Maybe Ian is saying that Brad and the kids are being held captive by Malificent?

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  221. Tetta said on September 24th, 2012 at 12:40 pm

    @Tetta:

    If and a big IF it´s going to be a hotel, would Jennifer and Jane Pitt be co-owners ? :)

    The chateau is far from the sea but is surrendered with water and many fountains.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1021819/Brangelina-splash-35m-French-chateau-complete-vineyard-ponies-expanding-brood.html

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  222. WCKitty said on September 24th, 2012 at 12:47 pm

    @Tetta:
    I was wondering the same thing last night. SRW has also been missing…for a long time.

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  223. WCKitty said on September 24th, 2012 at 12:49 pm

    @janindisguise:
    Happy Belated Birthday Jan!!! It sounds like you had a wonderful day!!! :)

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  224. Up the Coast said on September 24th, 2012 at 12:51 pm

    @WCKitty:
    I was just thinking about SRW yesterday! I miss her.

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  225. WCKitty said on September 24th, 2012 at 12:56 pm

    @Tetta:
    So is Pitt planning on retiring or/and turning the Chateau into a resort? Is there some connection to Florida since Ian has chosen to use that area a few times or does he just happen to like and visit the area often?

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  226. Liv4 said on September 24th, 2012 at 1:23 pm

    Maybe Ian is saying we have overlooked something, like this hotel is overlooked.

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  227. WCKitty said on September 24th, 2012 at 1:31 pm

    @Up the Coast:
    So do I. I hope she is okay and returns. I miss her post and her avi of Joy!!!

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  228. Up the Coast said on September 24th, 2012 at 1:43 pm

    @WCKitty:
    Me too! I keep hoping that one day she will pop in and say hello :) xxx

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  229. Up the Coast said on September 24th, 2012 at 1:44 pm

    @Liv4:
    That makes more sense… :oops:

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  230. rushdog said on September 24th, 2012 at 2:14 pm

    @Liv4:
    Well that’s a good interpretation of his travel post. It’s definitely connected to this riddle since he posted it inside. I’m not sure posting that we’ve overlooked something it going to help us figure out what it is!!!

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  231. Tetta said on September 24th, 2012 at 2:23 pm

    @Up the Coast:

    Correct me if I´m wrong but hasn´t Kate told us Ian spend a lot of time in Florida ? And it wasn´t so long ago there were rumors Brad was there too. But not with Ian ! My memory is washed away by all rain this summer.
    It seems more likely the clue is about the hotel than Brad rebuilding the chateau to a hotel. But if, Brad wouldn´t be the first one to open up the old castle as hotels. There isn´t only one chateau in France. There are many of them.

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  232. rushdog said on September 24th, 2012 at 2:26 pm

    “The lobby is the nicest I have come across at Disney…”

    Ian mentioned Disney four times in the first paragraph. The Renaissance at Seaworld so why does he mention Disney. Both are major tourist areas in central Florida and I would say Disney is bigger, a major family destination, made for children and extremely overcrowded at times (esp the Magic Kingdom).

    Seaworld as mentioned involves captivity, is basically a large aquarium (fishbowl?). The Renaissance is near Discovery Cove (where you can swim with dolphins).

    Both put on various types of shows. And imo you don’t get your money’s worth at either.

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  233. Guest2 said on September 24th, 2012 at 2:27 pm

    @Up the Coast:
    Maybe you are both right! We haven’t seen brad or the kids in a long time, especially brad. Is he locked in a dungeon somewhere in that chateau?

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  234. Up the Coast said on September 24th, 2012 at 2:43 pm

    @Tetta:
    I was under the impression that Ian lives in Florida.

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  235. x said on September 24th, 2012 at 2:45 pm

    I think someone is being held captive, and next, they’ll be ‘going to Disneyland’… ;-)

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  236. Up the Coast said on September 24th, 2012 at 2:47 pm

    @rushdog:
    Maybe he agrees with you, and is saying that Disney (Malificent) is over rated :lol:

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  237. Patty Anne said on September 24th, 2012 at 2:48 pm

    Ian travels for his business’ and does spend some quality time R&R/working vaca near Miami , FL but doesn’t live here. Summer is his family vacation time and yes, we do have a lot of celb families who bump shoulders with us civies in Disney so he might have met someone while there recently. I”m not speaking for Ian of course, just stating what I know to be fact.

    No insult to Ian intended but I’ve noticed he does post photos and a brief sinopsis of his recent locale or business visited. Perhaps he gets a discount? Sorry Big Guy….@Up the Coast:

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  238. Up the Coast said on September 24th, 2012 at 2:48 pm

    @Guest2:
    Maybe they are turning the Chateau into a bed and breakfast, in order to make ends meet?

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  239. rushdog said on September 24th, 2012 at 2:59 pm

    From Wiki:
    The Renaissance (UK /rɨˈneɪsəns/, US /ˈrɛnɨsɑːns/, French pronunciation: [ʁənɛsɑ̃ːs], French: Renaissance, Original Italian: Rinascimento, from rinascere “to be reborn”)

    She landed in France all smiles after visiting refugees (nice that it was possible to make the pap shot happen). There is also a Disney park in Paris. There is a SeaWorld in Dubai. x may be right about “going to Disneyworld!” Lol. But it would all be something for the children just like the promise for the future.

    Just throwing some stuff out hoping something will click with someone!

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  240. Guest2 said on September 24th, 2012 at 3:00 pm

    @Up the Coast:
    A brothel would be more up their alley.

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  241. rushdog said on September 24th, 2012 at 3:15 pm

    My final thought for the time-being: a lot of Ian’s travel posts show up attached to a riddle about Jen. Not sure if that’s supposed to tell us anything, again just throwing it out there.

    3/29/11: review about DC which included “DC spring meltdown…cherry blossom’s apart”
    9/18/11: Why did Brad back down??? Gorge w/Fred @ Red or La Petite Maison
    6/11/12: Just Go With It..Grooving in the Garden…Fred at Red is A-1 Class Act
    9/17/12: Flowing Afterglow…Lube-to-Go…Renaissance Seaworld Shines!!!

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  242. Tetta said on September 24th, 2012 at 3:24 pm

    But we must remember Jennifer ! Don´t forget she´s a part of the clue !! Disney is also a movie company. Doesn´t Disney produce “Malificent” or whatever the name is of Angelina´s latest movie ?

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  243. rushdog said on September 24th, 2012 at 3:58 pm

    @Tetta:
    That’s an interesting point. I had forgotten Malificent is a Disney film. It appears he may have added the “Renaissance Seaworld Shines” to the previous riddle title to point us in a certain direction. Something is shining and Ian did not chose a Disney hotel to the flowing afterglow and lube-to-go.

    Flowing Afterglow…Lube-to-Go…Renaissance Seaworld Shines!!!

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  244. Dream said on September 24th, 2012 at 4:17 pm

    @Patty Anne:
    anyone taht didnt take advantage of any discount they can get in this economy would have to be crazy.
    i don’t see how that would be an unkind remark at all.

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  245. ream said on September 24th, 2012 at 4:45 pm

    @Tetta:
    sorry didn’t know i was missed . been hectic here. dad had heart surgery then broke his leg mom broke arm and dads having more surgery next week and new kitten to train. i read when i can but have not completely kept up.

    sorry i missed ur bday jan hope it was wonderful.

    i miss srw too.

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  246. Guest2 said on September 24th, 2012 at 5:12 pm

    @Dream:
    There you are, hope you’re well. Now we just need to find Siska – she may be on vacation as I haven’t seen her posting anywhere else but of course there hasn’t been much jen news lately. And SRW, she’s been gone a long time.

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  247. Guest2 said on September 24th, 2012 at 5:24 pm

    Not sure if you’ve seen this thread at FF but there’s a link to popsugar and pix of the brangie kids actually having fun.

    http://www.femalefirst.co.uk/board/viewtopic.php?f=40&t=329544&sid=3514818f379d42bab4614cf7125e3edd

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  248. Liv4 said on September 24th, 2012 at 5:29 pm

    Chewing the cud site has fabric wraps for gifts (kind of weird, I know). And he mentions Disney maybe for Disney movie (as someone stated previously) and Netflix zombies could point to BP’s movie. Is something going to happen once those are wrapped up? Like a desperado waiting for a train and advocacy. Someone can’t wait for it to happen and someone is on someone else’s side? Vertex of a tree – maybe we’re getting too technical and someone is hiding (like the span of a tree) or protected. I just don’t know what IT is.

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  249. Patty Anne said on September 24th, 2012 at 6:59 pm

    Thank you Dream. I’d do it myself if I had the opportunity. I love to travel, see new places, new experiences and I don’t envy anyone who is able to do so. :-) @Dream:

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  250. Kate said on September 24th, 2012 at 7:17 pm

    FWIW-

    First , the comment on the

    front desk service is primo – source (He used this before in past reviews)

    Hotel website , click on About, watch the video-

    http://www.renaissanceseaworldorlando.com/Video-81.html

    Describes the experience- (and the rooms, the food, the spa, etc)

    Our knowledgeable staff is ready to assist you.

    Your personal journey of discovery begins here-

    BELIEVE

    Connect with your friends

    convenient and flexible meeting space

    no matter where or why you travel there is always something wonderfully new to be found.

    The next point-

    Let the atmosphere of Disney surround you – this hotel is not geared towards the feeling of wonderment , the way other Disney Hotels are, in fact this is a Marriott, and not really considered a Disney hotel. Why did he use this, what hotel is described this way?

    Disney’s Hotel New York® – Hotels in Paris – Disneyland® Resort Paris
    us.hotels.disneylandparis.com › disney hotels › hotels
    Disney’s Hotel New York® : let the atmosphere of Manhattan surround you with…

    You will find this description several times referring to the Disney Hotel New York in Paris.

    No idea who it is about, but it appears Ian is saying that there was a meeting up of sorts in Paris and his source is solid. There is probably more to it, but that is at a glance, and could be completely wrong. Just what I see. I did not watch the promo video for the Paris Hotel .

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  251. Guest2 said on September 24th, 2012 at 7:56 pm

    @Kate:
    Jen/justin were in Paris around June 11-14 from the photos I could find. Around thae 14th-15th there were photos and video of brad in Kassel, Germany. Did they meet up in Paris?

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  252. Guest2 said on September 24th, 2012 at 7:59 pm

    Slightly off topic, I just happened to find this video of some of the brangie kids out walking the dog in NOLA with a nanny and a manny. One is the Asian woman that the kids seem to really like. Just posted it because we were talking about the nannies a couple of days ago. Back to the riddle.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fv5ywWB6K0w&NR=1&feature=endscreen

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  253. guest3 said on September 24th, 2012 at 9:21 pm

    @WCkitty
    What you said made no sense. JA, according to you, not her suffered miscarriages but jokes about being pregnant because its reported in Tabs. Why would she care?? If you ever listen to the women that I cited talk about their miscarriage(s) and the heartbreak to lose a baby. It’s not a joking matter especially when you so desire a baby. I can’t imagine C Cox who suffered 6-7 ,had to go through IVF to have her daughter joke about being pregnant because of tab claims. My comment stands.. A woman would make a joke if they’ve never been pregnant or never had any intentions of having a baby. That’s a Joke!! A joke on the Tabs.

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  254. guest3 said on September 24th, 2012 at 10:34 pm

    It just proves JA will never be an A lister, again she cares more about what the Tabs report about her. I forgot she admitted that she reads what everyone says about her on the internet and confronted Perez Hilton in a parking lot. Rod Stewart’s daughter cause her to cry and have a breakdown because she called her homely. You just want to shake her, Jennifer, you’re a multi-millionaire woman, can travel anywhere, live anywhere you want and yet you’re so insecure about your looks that you have your PR guru buy you awards for best body, most sexiness. If HW is not offering the scripts you want , try producing your own movies. BE PROACTIVE..
    Can you Imagine Nicole Kidman confronting Lainey or Michael K about what they say about her botox and Lip fillers? Granny Freeze,Third lip.. No I can’t.. I true A lister, even if you know, you act like you don’t..
    JA will be 44 years old in 4 months, she really needs to stop thinking she’s still the 25 year old when Friends began almost 20 years ago. No one is thinking or believing tabs that a mid-40 year old woman is pregnant. I have to agree with Lainey on this.. She should have made a joke about the”Brange”.
    As quoted by Doug Pitt” That’s old news, it was 7, 8, 9 years ago… So now we have her father, the ex- brother-in-law, the ex-step-father, who said her current relationship will work because JTX is not as a famous as she is.. What else do you people need? There’s no answer to the a puzzle of 8 years, there will be no answer in 10 years… God-willing we will all be here.. But their children will be 14, 16, 17, 19, and 21 years old. Angie, 47 years old and Brad 59.

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  255. WCKitty said on September 24th, 2012 at 11:08 pm

    @guest3:
    You sure care about Jennifer since you can’t stop thinking about her. Who is she hurting?
    Why do you care is posters try and solve one of Ian’s puzzles? Why is it any of your business? This is not a pro-Brangie site, but here you are! This is a site full of posters who aren’t necessarily Jen fans, but the majority of us either don’t like Angie and some don’t like Brad. As for Rod Stewart’s daughter, she isn’t one to talk and her father, Rod, well…. 8O

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  256. Tetta said on September 25th, 2012 at 8:27 am

    When Jennifer and Justin visited Paris this summer they stayed at Ritz Hotel at Place Vendom. As far as I know it´s one of the most luxury hotels in Paris. At the same place, Place Vedom (it´s a big area, like a square surrounded by old big buildings) there is a Merriott Hotel called Renaissance Hotel Place Vendom. I guess you don´t have to go outside to walk from one of the hotels to the other.

    But if Brad met Jennifer back then I guess he also met her “protector” Justin. Or did Jennifer spent the nights in Paris together with Brad ?

    http://www.marriott.com/hotels/travel/parvd-renaissance-paris-vendome-hotel/

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  257. Guest2 said on September 25th, 2012 at 9:21 am

    @Tetta:
    With the protector I would say, if it happened.

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  258. Patty Anne said on September 25th, 2012 at 12:23 pm

    Very interesting Tetta. Your being a European helps greatly in this locals. Sounds lovely doesn’t it?@Tetta:

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  259. Patty Anne said on September 25th, 2012 at 12:27 pm

    If Jennifer is encouraging Brad, as A Friend, in what he is attempting then it would make sense for her to have met up with him at that time and at that Renaissance hotel location. It would also indicate that Justin has nothing to fear from Brad as it was a romantic holiday for Justin and Jennifer pre-engagement. Like so many “in the know” have told us, Jennifer has moved on with her life. Interesting isn’t it? Some of their fans can not accept that concept of a friendship between two formerly married persons, especially when the ex-husband told his baby-mamma that his wife was his best friend as well. Hmmmmmm

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  260. Tetta said on September 25th, 2012 at 12:42 pm

    @Guest2:

    I forgot to put a smilie after the night comment :lol:
    I don´t believe they saw each other as anything else then friends. It could have been a perfect time for Jennifer to introduce Justin and Brad to each other. Even if they have seen each other before I don´t think they know each other.

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  261. Tetta said on September 25th, 2012 at 12:53 pm

    @Patty Anne:

    Paris is really breathtaking. The buildings, the restaurants, the shops , the museums …. everything !!
    It´s only a two and a half hours flight away from Sweden so I have been there many times. It´s the best with Europe, it´s small !

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  262. Tetta said on September 25th, 2012 at 1:26 pm

    If this clue mainly is about ” save Brad” , Ian´s up date make sense.

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  263. Up the Coast said on September 25th, 2012 at 1:37 pm

    @Tetta:
    Great find! I would say that they met with her “protector” Justin :)

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  264. Up the Coast said on September 25th, 2012 at 1:50 pm

    @Patty Anne:
    +1

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  265. Guest2 said on September 25th, 2012 at 2:24 pm

    @Patty Anne:
    +2.

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  266. Guest2 said on September 25th, 2012 at 2:25 pm

    @Tetta:
    I missed your mischievous humor. Maybe I am becoming like the loons :(

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  267. Up the Coast said on September 25th, 2012 at 2:27 pm

    Here is a great thread from FF… http://www.femalefirst.co.uk/board/viewtopic.php?f=40&t=329630

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  268. Tetta said on September 25th, 2012 at 3:27 pm

    You have a long way to go to become a loon :) My humor is hard to understand. It´s my fault, I believe or hope that most of us here are pro Jen & Justin. Some of you have doubts about Justin and thats ok. But I want to believe no one would like a reunion between JA and BP.@Guest2:

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  269. Guest2 said on September 25th, 2012 at 3:39 pm

    @Tetta:
    I absolutely do NOT want any kind of reunion between them. I don’t even like that she may still be friends with him but that would be her business. I hope that it is the real thing with justin but just not 100% convinced yet.

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  270. Guest2 said on September 25th, 2012 at 3:41 pm

    @Up the Coast:
    I read that earlier. Very disturbing if true. She did some back from that trip with an evil maniacal look on her face.

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  271. Tetta said on September 25th, 2012 at 4:12 pm

    @Guest2:

    I read it earlier today but I didn´t take it serious. Perhaps that was stupid. At a second thought it wouldn´t be strange if her liver doesn´t work any more. Maybe she had a liver in the LV bag :shock: It´s also odd the post has filled two pages without interruption from a loon.

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  272. Tetta said on September 25th, 2012 at 5:38 pm

    Renaissance means ” new born “. Is could be about a “new born ” friendship between Jennifer and Brad.

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  273. Guest2 said on September 25th, 2012 at 5:47 pm

    @Tetta:
    I wonder sometimes why this subject continues to fascinate me (in a sick kind of way, I admit) but only in the bizzaro world that is brangelina could something like this be even a remote possibility. Someone at ff made a comment about brad’s liver being pickled. Maybe that is the only way he has to protect it. Insert bug-eyed emoticon – I don’t know how to do it.

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  274. Up the Coast said on September 25th, 2012 at 5:49 pm

    @Tetta:
    I believe it means a rebirth or revival. A rebirth or revival of their friendship?

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  275. Payal said on September 25th, 2012 at 6:26 pm

    @Guest2:

    Completely agree with you

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  276. Tetta said on September 25th, 2012 at 6:29 pm

    @Guest2:

    As I said, on a second thought I could believe Angelina is out looking for a new liver, legal or illegal. And Brad´s liver being “pickled” is a good description, I guess. :shock:

    To make a bug eyed smily you write shock with one colon directly in front of the word and one colon directly after the word. I hope the sign with two dots is called colon. In swedish it could also be a part of your stomach.

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  277. Tetta said on September 25th, 2012 at 6:31 pm

    @Up the Coast:

    You are right, the correct meaning is rebirth or revival. It suits even better.

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  278. Tetta said on September 25th, 2012 at 6:36 pm

    @Tetta:

    And it also explains Ian´s choice of photo. If you didn´t know they were married back then it could look like Brad givs Jennifer a friendly big hug.

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  279. mayrose10 said on September 25th, 2012 at 7:46 pm

    I@guest3:

    I don’t think you should speak for all women on this subject or judge any woman on how she expresses pain. I’ve had three and would sometimes joke as a way to mask my pain. And mostly to not have to deal with the looks of pity or hear how it wasn’t the right time or blah, blah, blah. It had nothing to do with what I felt. I no longer even have my baby maker and joke about that too. Laughter through tears is my favorite emotion. Points if anybody can name that movie.

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  280. Guest2 said on September 25th, 2012 at 8:15 pm

    @Tetta:
    Colon has the same meanings in English and thank you for the lesson. This is the article from the National Enquirer. They bring up a bombshell interview aj gave in 1998 where she admits to having used every kind of drug with heroin being her personal favorite. Maybe that’s why the loons were so quiet on that thread.

    http://www.nationalenquirer.com/celebrity/exclusive-angies-poor-health-sparks-hepatitis-fears-experts

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  281. ream said on September 25th, 2012 at 8:28 pm

    @Guest2:
    i have always felt it is not believable tht a woman with jens money and fame would be dateless. i have alays thought that was working for her in the mind of the public. i assumed there were men or man in the background who preferred to remain anonymous.
    i think thats why i ahve a hard time seeing justin as a real romance. it seems convenient like all her famous dates. maybe he is real but i do not believe she has been alone and crying in her soup all this time.

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  282. Capri said on September 25th, 2012 at 9:06 pm

    @mayrose10:
    Steel Magnolia…….those were words that I have tried to live by ever since I first heard that phrase in the movie. You just can’t go around mourning all the time. You have to do the best you can with whatever life throws at you and if making fun of your worst hurts helps, as it did me, well I’ll just keep LMAO and it sounds like you will too. Smile and a wave to you. Chin up and all that with all best wishes to you.

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  283. Up the Coast said on September 25th, 2012 at 10:17 pm

    @Guest2:
    I wonder who this “friend” is, that’s talking to the NE?

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  284. Up the Coast said on September 25th, 2012 at 10:18 pm

    @mayrose10:
    I agree.

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  285. Guest2 said on September 26th, 2012 at 6:48 am

    @Up the Coast:
    Probably lefsetz.

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  286. Guest2 said on September 26th, 2012 at 2:01 pm

    Where did everyone go?

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  287. Up the Coast said on September 26th, 2012 at 2:38 pm

    @Guest2:
    It’s quiet here…..

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  288. Dream said on September 26th, 2012 at 3:22 pm

    amazon has rock of ages for sale tom cruise is not listed as one of the stars. does not bode well if not listing the leads gets more sales

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  289. WCKitty said on September 26th, 2012 at 4:00 pm

    @Up the Coast:
    It is quiet here. I love looking at your avi! I wish I could go and sit on that beach and listen to the waves crash upon the shoreline. I can’t so I looked up live beach cams and decided upon the Monterey Bay cam. I didn’t even know they had one. Wouldn’t you know it, the cam is down for maintenance! I hope it isn’t for long. :lol:

    http://www.montereybayaquarium.org/efc/efc_lotb/webcam.aspx

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  290. WCKitty said on September 26th, 2012 at 4:02 pm

    @Dream:
    That is bad for Tom! I do like him in Mission Impossible.

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  291. Elby said on September 26th, 2012 at 4:47 pm

    @Guest2:
    Can’t believe AJ at 5′7″ weighs 95 pounds. No wonder she has been so covered up.

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  292. WR said on September 26th, 2012 at 5:52 pm

    Well, we’ve lost Andy Williams. But he’ll be with us as long as we want, by listening to his music. One record that made me respect him even more, was “The Battle Hymn of the Republic” which he made after Robert Kennedy’s death. He was close to the Kennedys.
    He started out as a singer with his brothers. In those days, singing groups were big for quite a while. Then he started recording solo and under expert guidance, he made many hit records for Cadence Records. Later, he recorded for Columbia Records, and scored many hit singles, but more importantly, many hit albums. He branched out with guest appearances on variety shows, then his own show, as well as some movies.
    R.I.P. Andy Williams.

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  293. Guest2 said on September 26th, 2012 at 6:44 pm

    I’ve always loved listening to him sing Moon River. The second link is for WR.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_jgIezosVA&feature=related

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VVF6uFanJxs

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  294. Guest2 said on September 26th, 2012 at 6:48 pm

    @Elby:
    Maybe that’s why she’s wearing the tent things but I thought her arms didn’t look quite so skinny in the last pix of her. But everything with those two is based on illusions so who knows what the truth really is.

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  295. Patty Anne said on September 26th, 2012 at 6:54 pm

    LOL, News Flash: Brad hired Chef Jamie Oliver to cook Christmas Dinner for his tribe.

    http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/lifestyle/09/26/12/jamie-oliver-cook-brangelinas-christmas-dinner

    ” The “Killing Them Softly” actor has been friends with the British chef for years and although Oliver has tried to teach Pitt how to cook, the Hollywood hunk has given up and asked his pal to come to his rented London home on Christmas Day to make dinner for him, fiancee Angelina Jolie and their six children.”

    I guess Angie doesn’t cook or clean or raise their children without an army of nannies.

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  296. Patty Anne said on September 26th, 2012 at 6:56 pm

    I remember fondly listening to him singing White Christmas, and his television Christmas specials. Didn’t he have a wife who killed her lover in Colorado? Can’t remember the deets as I was a child then but remember my mother’s shock over it.@WR:

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  297. Guest2 said on September 26th, 2012 at 7:32 pm

    @Patty Anne:
    That was claudine longet who shot and killed her live-in lover in Aspen. I think she was divorced from Williams by that time.

    http://www.trutv.com/library/crime/notorious_murders/celebrity/claudine_longet/index.html

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  298. Dream said on September 26th, 2012 at 7:57 pm

    @Elby:
    i have said before the jp’s are reminding me of david copperfield. they were skin and bones not too long ago now are bigger. lol dc used to wear a muscle suit under his clothes.

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  299. Dream said on September 26th, 2012 at 7:59 pm

    @Patty Anne:
    spyder something i remember that too

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  300. Dream said on September 26th, 2012 at 8:00 pm

    @Guest2:
    lol my memory not as fast as ur skills

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  301. Guest2 said on September 26th, 2012 at 8:41 pm

    @Dream:
    I vaguely remember when it happened as it was quite a big scandal and was all over the news. I always liked Andy Williams and Claudine was so pretty and had that French accent. It’s probably how she got away with it. That and the botched police work. I believe she killed him in a jealous rage but I guess only she knows for sure. I didn’t know that her lawyer left his family for her.

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  302. Up the Coast said on September 26th, 2012 at 9:09 pm

    @WCKitty:
    Awww….I would like to see that webcam too! My avi is Mugu Rock, near the Ventura Cty Line, at sunset.

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  303. Patty Anne said on September 26th, 2012 at 9:28 pm

    Thank you. I remembered it as being a huge scandal involving Andy Williams but I didn’t realize that it was an ex by the time it occured. @Guest2:

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  304. Siska said on September 26th, 2012 at 9:36 pm

    @guest3:there you are again with ranting about Jen,why is so hard for you to admit that Jen is A lister?
    Anyway is your right,but could I comment on your ranting about Jen that she should stop care about stuff the haters tell her? She being called names for so many years,but she didn’t collapse or became derailed like some of the stars like Lindsay,Charlie,Whitney,etc. she still work and have great live with powerful friends and loyal friends. If she admits that some of the words or article about her was hurt her,she is only human and honest about it,even AJ admit that she knew about some bad stuff written about her.
    Do you think it’s better for Jen to pretend or lie that she didn’t knew about all the stuff? Like your idol when asked about the leg gate? Or the reputation of your idol angie a homewrecker? At least Jen is decent enough to admit.
    Your idol Angie also care greatly what others talk about her,that’s why she changing her image from wild angie to saintly Angie. Do you think her changing image as a humanitarian not having to do with trying to deflect her participation of brad and Jen marriage breakdown? You gonna be kidding me,if you think all the humanitarian and donation that being highly publicize were nothing to do with increase a positive image of her.
    It’s a part of the game. A list play the same play book,they play more expensive than B list.
    Btw Jen win a lot of survey,even against your idol,and that’s her fans who choose her.
    And if you gonna accuse about Jen paying her pr agent to win the sexiest women survey from mens health,you have to also admit that all the other old survey that Angie used to won,could be accused the same.
    It’s not the pr agent who paid them,but the magazine usually offer the stars win it in exchange of them to do an exclusive interview or special coverage,it’s a win win situation.
    Oh.and for the part that Jen make fun of the pregnant stuff,because for years she being accused of it,and it’s her life,she can do it.
    And for your analise that she can not be miscarriage or ever pregnant before for doing that kinda make fun of pregnancy,it’s your take,but we never knew,cause sometime after healing you can took humor as your escapade.
    Plus jen already saying in different years and several interview that the triangle was an old news,she is fine with brangie. She even mention on Oprah. That stuff is old news. She also mention she is proud of brad with his achievement. So no drama.

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  305. Up the Coast said on September 26th, 2012 at 9:46 pm

    @Guest2:
    I remember this also….but I didn’t know all these details.

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  306. guest3 said on September 26th, 2012 at 11:11 pm

    @Siska
    Angie is now 37 years old. So why do you continue to bring up her changed image. What? she was 25 years old when she adopted Maddox and started working for the UNHCR.
    I wish you be less sympathetic for the Nicole Richie’s.. who only 5 years ago could have caused a fatal accident on a LA freeway driving in the opposite direction, high on drugs.. Drew Barrymore, who just got married for the third time at 36 or 37 years ago..admitted to being coked out by time she was 13 , showing David Letterman her tits on National TV… Johnny Depp who was arrested for thrashing a NYC hotel , left the US and moved to France because he couldn’t face the bad press. on top of River Phoenix dying outside his club (Viper Room) which BTW was notoriously known as a Drug haven for young HW.. RDJ, who was incarcerated for 3 years for his drug use and breaking/entering into a family home with young children..
    I get it you don’t like Angie.. .So, you get me I don’t like JA.. she’s a phony. She’s getting too old for the pity party . The woman will be 44 years old in 4 months.. I pray that she and JTX are still together. Also, why did the editor of Men’s health feel the need to defend why she was chosen. He pretty much said it wasn’t for her looks, it was her healthy lifestyle. That was joke since she smokes cigs and hangs out in the sun. That’s why she looks puffy now because trying to reverse the damage caused by these vices.

    Angie is a beauty ,she didn’t have to buy awards in her 20’s and early 30’s.. She had/has a stunning face just like Halle, Charlize, Charlotte Casiraghi, Aishwarya Rai, Adrianna Lima. She got a lot of attention or stood out because she’s a caucasian woman that has unique features that you normally don’t see on a white woman. Dark hair, although I believe she is natually a dirty blonde, light (blue-green) eyes and full lips . Most people that meet her in person say photos don’t do her justice, she is gorgeous in person. However, Lainey who met JA in person at TIFF commented that she looks her age (not 10 years younger) and described her as “Taupe” “Beige” like Jennifer Garner.. No Angie or JLO.. her words, not mine. But, she did say she had a great body. These were her comments when JA was in her late 30’s (6-7 years ago).

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  307. rushdog said on September 26th, 2012 at 11:16 pm

    I’m more than a little lost on this riddle, but has anyone noticed that the photos are arranged different today from yesterday on this post. I swear there were four small photos (at least I think it was 3 or 4) added with the review and now there are two much bigger photos. So does this means 4-2? Or is Ian trying to emphasize these two photos (I think both were included yesterday).

    The scrolls say: “Outdoor pool-V2-low res” and “Orlando_Seaword_Exterior-low res.”

    Low res is low resolution = image resolution to low for the size, pics will be blurry. The photographs posted are from the hotel website and they’re not blurry.

    “Front desk service is primo” – as Kate said Ian has used the word “primo” to describe a source before. And this “primo” was at this hotel.

    So does this mean that someone has photographs, albeit blurry, of two people meeting at or near this hotel?

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  308. Liz E. said on September 27th, 2012 at 12:18 am

    Claudine Longet did indeed marry one of her defense attorneys, IIRC Ron Austin. He left his wife and kids for her. He and Claudine are still married and live in Aspen. I am always amazed that she continued to live in Aspen. I think Andy was the one to leave her – years before she met Spider.

    There was an expert at her trial who testified that the gun had a defective safety and was over lubricated at the time of the shooting. It seems the jury credited that testimony because she was only convicted of criminal negligence which was a misdemanor and acquitted of the greater charge – maybe negligent homicide I can’t remember now. I know it was and it fashionable to assume she shot him intending to kill him but I don’t know – seems to me there was reasonable doubt.

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  309. fluffy said on September 27th, 2012 at 12:49 am

    Guest 3

    I would agree with you that AJ was a stunning and beautiful woman. However, her looks have declined prematurely for someone with access to the best beauty treatments available in the world.
    In 2004 she was at her peak and was very hot news here in Australia. However, today she is rarely seen on the magazine covers.
    IMO JA has aged extremely well and has become more popular as time as passed.
    Angelina Jolie was popular with men however, that has been in decline for many years now

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  310. Guest2 said on September 27th, 2012 at 7:55 am

    @rushdog:
    I noticed the pictures were bigger but I couldn’t remember what they looked like before. Maybe Ian is trying to steer us away from Paris and saying that whatever meeting might have taken place happened in Florida?

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  311. Guest2 said on September 27th, 2012 at 9:55 am

    @Guest2:
    I just noticed that Ian added the words “Renaissance SeaWorld Shines!!!!” to the clue after Lube to go. I don’t think was always there or did I just miss it?

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  312. Jaded said on September 27th, 2012 at 10:07 am

    Sometimes Seaworld is just seaworld. IH gets a financial break for mentioning these restaurants and hotels in his blogs, etc. whenever he visits them. And why shouldn’t he take advantage of this opportunity to cash in?

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  313. guest3 said on September 27th, 2012 at 11:19 am

    @fluffy
    Every hot HW starlet delines with men once they become a Mother. Same thing happened with Jessica Alba.
    JA is not aging well and she never had a child so obviously no worries, other than playing a teenage Mom on screen. I don’t know where you are from but in the US Blake Lively@ 25 years old is the new hot thing with young men. That might change since she recently got married to Ryan Reynolds. I’m sure young men are not panting for JA at 44 years old. Most born after 1985, don’t know who she is. Her co-star on “Horrible Bosses” didn’t know she was once married to Brad Pitt.

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  314. Tetta said on September 27th, 2012 at 11:26 am

    @Guest2:

    Ian added the clue with “Renaissance Seaworld Shines” just one day or two after he posted the main clue. He also posted a copy of a common postcard with four different pictures from the Seaworld Hotel. Ian has changed the postcard and chose two pictures from it and enlarged them. I must think for a while to see if I can understand why Ian changed the postcard.

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  315. Patty Anne said on September 27th, 2012 at 12:02 pm

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/celebritynews/8780076/Brad-Pitt-says-Jennifer-Aniston-is-a-dear-friend.html

    Brad Pitt is seeking again to distance himself from apparently negative remarks about his marriage to Hollywood sweetheart Jennifer Aniston, calling his ex-wife a “dear friend” and a “valuable person.”
    Thursday 27 September 2012

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  316. Patty Anne said on September 27th, 2012 at 12:05 pm

    Thank you for filling in the details. I havel always been an Andy Williams fan while having a foggy rememberance of what had occured could comprimise that somewhat.@Liz E.:

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  317. Patty Anne said on September 27th, 2012 at 12:26 pm

    I thought it was confirming our guesses that Brad and Jen ARE friends at this point based upon that interview a year ago in which Brad is quoted as saying, “I don’t want them to say anything bad like that about Jen. She’s a dear friend of mine,” Pitt said.
    @Patty Anne:

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  318. Dream said on September 27th, 2012 at 4:33 pm

    @Liz E.:
    ty 4 the info.

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  319. Dream said on September 27th, 2012 at 5:59 pm

    @guest3:
    my next door neighbors sons think jen is hot i asked them what they thought of her. all three are 21 and under. not a jen fan so i don’t care if she is interesting to men or not. but thats at least three men under 28 who know who she is and think shes got it going on.

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  320. Tetta said on September 27th, 2012 at 6:22 pm

    Ian says about the Renaissance Hotel with what I think is his own words ( not from a brochure about the
    hotel ) “IUC Travel Destination Of The Month: Renaissance Hotel Orlando at SeaWorld
    Let the atmosphere of Disney surround you in this majestic gem located across the street from SeaWorld. ” I get curious. The atmosphere of Disney makes me think of fairytales. The clue is about BP, JA and JP. We are not sure who JP is, but at least I think of Jane Pitt. Did Jennifer have to reunite Brad and his mother after JP´s letter to the newspaper. Brad´s ex-wife mediates between Brad and his mother. Does this sound like a fairytale ? Ian enlarged the images so that we could see and feel the sense of a fairytale. To a frozen Scandinavian the motive in the pictures seems like a fairytale. It´s just a thought. Any other thoughts ?

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  321. WCKitty said on September 27th, 2012 at 8:05 pm

    @Tetta:
    I am terrible at figuring out these clues. One thing that does stand out to me (and may mean nothing) is that there are no people in the pictures despite Ian using the words “bustling Disney area.” Also, could “reflection” be part of the clue since the pool is reflecting? There are trees with canopies and arches in the pictures.

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  322. WCKitty said on September 27th, 2012 at 8:07 pm

    @Tetta:
    BTW, I also think that JP stands for Jane Pitt. :P

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  323. Guest2 said on September 27th, 2012 at 8:20 pm

    @Dream:
    Have you asked them about angie :)

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  324. Guest2 said on September 27th, 2012 at 8:40 pm

    I wonder where brad is. Have they started work yet on wwz? If they’re at chateau miraval why are there no photos of them? I thought they were stalked by papparazzi. The paps were swarming the place when there were rumors of a wedding and now they are supposedly there and not a single pap photo.

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  325. liv4 said on September 27th, 2012 at 10:09 pm

    @rushdog:There was a small collage made up of 4 photos that has now been split into 2. Don’t know the meaning of why it changed.

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  326. liv4 said on September 27th, 2012 at 10:15 pm

    @liv4:
    Forgot to add that maybe a good deal was made – google renaissance seaworld and you are offered deal after deal.

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  327. dream said on September 27th, 2012 at 10:35 pm

    @Guest2:
    I didn’t ask. I am sure they know her as Laura croft and think of her as sexy.
    I really was curious if young guys would know who Jen was. The neighbor kids do our lawn work so they were handy to ask.

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  328. fluffy said on September 28th, 2012 at 12:33 am

    AJ is a boney skeleton. In Australia she is famous for those veins and horrible legs.
    I watched a video of the Salt Prem and OMG she has chicken legs.

    Having babies and being a mother did not ruin my legs and give me protruding veins
    Katherine Zeta Jones is a mother and still looks sexy!

    I wonder what caused a once beautiful woman to loose her looks and her body so early??????????????
    I would not want to swap bodies with AJ however, I would with JA (I should b

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  329. fluffy said on September 28th, 2012 at 12:34 am

    I should be so lucky!!!!!!!

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  330. WR said on September 28th, 2012 at 3:55 am

    I think it was Examiner.com that posted pics of AJ with the ugly, large protruding bulge in her neck about a year and a half ago. Shortly thereafter, one couldn’t find those pics, anywhere. Hope somebody saved them.
    As for the average guys’ take on the situation. I was at my dentist’s office last year, and AJ’s photo was on the cover of one mag on the table. Obscenities were doodled all over her face. And this was even after all the “charity chic” activities.
    Did AJ popularize the “trout lips” look? It looks pathetic on aging copycats. Insecurity written all over their faces! She may have had some of it modified to reduce the non-feminine lines of her jaw.
    Never bought the “breathtaking beauty” lies that her fanatics tried to shove down our throats!
    But then, beauty is in the eye of the beholder. And I find inner beauty breathtaking!
    I might go to see JA if she was filming in our neighborhood; but Brangelina? Haven’t the slightest interest. But I can honestly say they’d still draw a crowd, because people are called “sheeple” for a good reason.

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  331. WR said on September 28th, 2012 at 4:00 am

    We discussed Andy Williams in our talking circle, today. Raves, raves and more raves for this singular talent.
    Congeniality was attributed to him as well as a dry sense of humor. And then, of course, the golf he popularized among the locals. Also, the Christmas albums. “Moon River” was popularized by his beautiful male vocal!
    I was impressed with his supportive stance during the Claudine Longet trial. He just stuck to the high road, imo!

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  332. WR said on September 28th, 2012 at 4:15 am

    We have a most interesting group in our talking circle. Depending on the attendees, most topics are what we feel is appropriate. Sometimes, when it’s males, only, then the topics might be not for family listening, as some have been in show biz. That’s when someone may blurt out inside info on stars. But when ladies are present, we discuss everything that won’t offend anyone in their right mind, lol!
    Today, a beautiful woman was present to discuss health foods and nutrition in general.
    Someone started with a horrible dream they had, and that was quite a strong topic.
    Even cemeteries, in the dark was mentioned. But it was agreed that nowadays many homeless choose to find shelter at mausoleums, for example.
    One finds oneself postponing meals because it’s so interesting to hear exciting adventures.
    Tomorrow, then!

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  333. P. Gold said on September 28th, 2012 at 9:10 am

    @fluffy:

    Fluffy, it’s a waste of energy trying to reason with a loony. It’s funny how she keeps trying to make jen sounds old, as if she will never become old and her idol will never become old. It’s sad, actually sad when in actual fact her idol looks way older than Jen while being 7 years younger. It’s also pathetic that she keeps saying most people under 30 dont know who Jen is when Jen is always on the tabs . She’s deliberately being delusional. Does that mean most people who buy mags or surf the internet are mostly over 30 years old?

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  334. Siska said on September 28th, 2012 at 10:20 am

    @guest3:Please stick to the conversation,I just saying that you said an Alister should not care about the stuff that media talk about them,but I show you that they all doing the same. And you still going on about Jen getting old but not want to talk about Angie getting older and skin and bone. She is beautiful,I never said she wasn’t. But her body isn’t healthy and she age well over her age.
    If you said her past is a past why you also keep bringing Jen past,she already said she trying to quit smoking and suntan. So you dong double standard again.
    There is quite tiring arguing with you. Not making any sense

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  335. Guest2 said on September 28th, 2012 at 10:54 am

    @P. Gold:
    It is very funny that the loony thinks those under 30 years old would be interested in a woman who carts six children around while wearing tent dresses. Because everyone know that’s incredibly sexy to young men. Not.

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  336. WCKitty said on September 28th, 2012 at 12:20 pm

    @Guest2:
    You mean to tell me that a young man (or any man) wouldn’t find this woman sexy!!!! :lol:

    http://www.femalefirst.co.uk/board/viewtopic.php?f=40&t=329434

    Those hands!!!! 8O

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  337. Guest2 said on September 28th, 2012 at 1:05 pm

    @WCKitty:
    :lol: Angelina salad-fingers, that comment was so funny. Sexy, yup, to the loons.

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  338. Up the Coast said on September 28th, 2012 at 1:20 pm

    @WCKitty:
    It doesn’t matter how many times G3 says it, it just isn’t true! joLIE looks HIDEOUS :shock:

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  339. Guest2 said on September 28th, 2012 at 1:25 pm

    @Up the Coast:
    I just wish it would get ignored here more than it does. She looks hideous and crazy.

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  340. Up the Coast said on September 28th, 2012 at 1:44 pm

    @Guest2:
    I hear ya, there’s no point in trying to change it’s mind, and vice versa ;)

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  341. Patty Anne said on September 28th, 2012 at 1:48 pm

    I was looking at her best days as Lara Croft. In an interview she said she had to work out like crazy to be able to look like that, and in another article it said she had gotten breast implants to be more like the game version of Lara Croft. Okay, so actors have to become the role they play to be convincing, that is understandable, but if she knew she was at her best look back then, why not make an honest attempt to keep looking her best? Exersize, EAT, styllist……. She looks like a praying mantis to me with those looooog skinny arms and legs, and the flipper-like hands and feet are most likely due to her anorexic body. I do believe if she got her weight up to normal for her frame she would have more of a Jon Voight body type. I believe this mostly because her body is a box. High waisted and square. No waist when compared to her hips. The jawline, as WR said it so well, is very masculine. When you couple that jaw with the medically inflated upper lip ( her natural upper lip was much thinner), and the extremely surgically altered nose which now appears to be becoming shorter by the month, you end up with a Sly Stallone’s mother look in her future. That’s why Angie looks so old and worn now imo. And for all loons out there, I’m simply making observations no different than you all do with Jennifer. If Angie looks much worse for having started altering her natural appearance so drastically at such a young age, then it’s on her.@Guest2:

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  342. WCKitty said on September 28th, 2012 at 2:06 pm

    @Up the Coast:
    @Guest2:
    I know I should just ignore the poster and I would have the other night but the post was directed to me and I was in a mood! :twisted: I will ignore from now on and maybe it will go away. :lol:

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  343. WCKitty said on September 28th, 2012 at 2:07 pm

    @WCKitty:
    …if we all ignore the poster. :P

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  344. Guest2 said on September 28th, 2012 at 2:22 pm

    @WCKitty:
    I know it’s hard to ignore comments that are directed at you and that’s why I think she responds to other posters, to rile them up. I think that’s her purpose in coming here. What other reason would there be to come to a site like this and write those comments. There are times I want to respond to it too but then I bite my fingertips and count to 10. It may not always work, we’ll see.

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  345. WCKitty said on September 28th, 2012 at 2:31 pm

    @Guest2:
    I agree with you that the poster comes here to rile us up. I will ignore from now on by picturing in my mind that I am responding to a creepy looking poster who is wearing his yellow ducky underwear while sitting behind his ancient computer in his momma’s basement. :lol:

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  346. Guest2 said on September 28th, 2012 at 2:31 pm

    @Patty Anne:
    I don’t know what’s wrong with those two. They’re famous movie stars, with houses all over the world, a large family that they both always wanted with nannies, bodyguards, household help at their disposal and enough money to feed the entire planet. If anyone should look like a million bucks it’s them but instead they each look, sick, dirty, haggard and older than their years. It’s not just us commenting on their appearance, almost ever blogger and tabloid out there does it except the hard-core brangeloon sites. At least brad has the sense to hide himself away.

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  347. Tetta said on September 28th, 2012 at 2:46 pm

    @Guest2:

    Guest3 wants to stop us writing comments and she succeds most of the times. Then it takes a couple of days for us to get back on track. We all all know it´s hard to not write a comment when she addresses something to you yourself. The best thing is if the “attacked” person keeps quiet and everyone else too. Just pretend Guest3´s comment isn´t there. Most of us know who is who on IUC and if Guest3 is really rude to someone we know she is wrong. No one needs to be personally ashamed for what Guest3 writes about us. It´s much more fun when our usual comments about the clues or if we discuss something else just keep coming. So IGNORE ought to be our new mantra.

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  348. Tetta said on September 28th, 2012 at 2:55 pm

    @Guest2:

    It reminds me about what the ABBA member Benny Andersson says when the journalists ask for an ABBA reunion. “Our fans would be shocked if they see us today. We are old and none of us look as we did in 1970.”
    I think he´s clever. It´s much more fun to remember them as they looked back then in their sometimes weird outfits.

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  349. Tetta said on September 28th, 2012 at 5:16 pm

    Now I´m back on the surface, the easy answer to the clue. The Reainessance is a rock band from UK. Their career started in the 1970´s. One of their songs are “Shine”, a melody with a n easily understood text. Someone seems to be happy !!

    Lyrics to SHINE

    Once I was lonely, living in dreams (Shine shine shine shine)
    Found my heart open now shine on me
    Into my open heart like the sun shines
    Into my open soul like the sun shines
    A shaft of light through a now open door ….

    You so beguiling, smiling at me (Shine shine shine shine)
    Smiling and tender soft the breeze
    [ From: http://www.metrolyrics.com/shine-lyrics-renaissance.html ]
    Into my open heart like the sun shines
    Into my open soul like the sun shines
    A shaft of light through a now open door (Shine shine shine shine)

    I hear you whisper, gentle and free (Shine shine shine shine)
    Laughing and loving, shining from me (Shine)

    End

    Is it too easy ? :)

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  350. WCKitty said on September 28th, 2012 at 5:33 pm

    @Tetta:
    Sometimes things are nice and easy! :lol: You could be right Tetta since Disneyland is supposed to be “the happiest place on earth!” I say supposed because I have found that is often to be the most crowded place on earth, but I kept on going back when my kids were younger. So who do you think is happy? :P

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  351. Up the Coast said on September 28th, 2012 at 5:42 pm

    @Tetta:
    I heard on the radio that Crosby, Stills and Nash are playing at the Santa Barbara Bowl tonight! And I swooned :) and thought about going. Then I realised the same thing you are talking about….they DO NOT look like the CSN of my memories :shock: So I’ll just catch them on the radio….and see them in my dreams.

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  352. Tetta said on September 28th, 2012 at 5:51 pm

    @WCKitty:

    First of all I think of Jennifer and Justin. But if I change my mind and say JP stands for Brad and Angelina as a couple and not Jane Pitt, I want it to be the whole “quadruple” . Ian said ” Let the atmosphere of Disney surround you ” and to me Disney is equal to fairytales. The Triangle doesn´t exist any more ! Happy Ending !

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  353. Guest2 said on September 28th, 2012 at 5:52 pm

    There is something a bit unseemly about 60 something rockers jumping around up on stage dressed like they did in their 20’s. Anyone eligible for medicare, social security and depends just shouldn’t be doing that.

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  354. WCKitty said on September 28th, 2012 at 5:53 pm

    @Up the Coast:
    I wouldn’t find it hard to listen to them in person if it was in a club situation, but not a full-blown concert. There are very few musicians that I would go and see in concert these days because it would just hurt to see what they look like now (as both you and Tetta stated) and to watch someone like Mick Jagger dance on stage! 8O (my eyes!!!) David Crosby has had some serious health problems and he is lucky to still be here. I have to admit that there a few musicians whose music and voices I have loved to listen to, but wish I had never seen their photo since they never looked like I had imagined.

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  355. WCKitty said on September 28th, 2012 at 5:56 pm

    @Tetta:
    I hope that you are right and it is Jen and Justin and the triangle has ended! :P

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  356. Guest2 said on September 28th, 2012 at 5:59 pm

    @Tetta:
    It make sense to me. B/J are friends, nothing more. Brad iremains in his situation for reasons we don’t fully understand yet and jen has moved on with someone else. I wonder if there is something to that NE story about aj.

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  357. Tetta said on September 28th, 2012 at 5:59 pm

    @Up the Coast:

    And remember them – like in a fairytail !! ;)

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  358. Tetta said on September 28th, 2012 at 6:06 pm

    @Guest2:

    It´s hard to see your idols so old. Because then you realize you have got equally older and that is hard to accept. Thats why I prefer to see ABBA as they looked in the 70 ´. :)

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  359. Up the Coast said on September 28th, 2012 at 6:18 pm

    @Guest2:
    +1 :lol:

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  360. Up the Coast said on September 28th, 2012 at 6:24 pm

    @WCKitty:
    David C has ballooned, and you’re right, he’s had some medical issues (from drugs/alcohol I believe). He also was the sperm donor for one of Melissa Etheridge’s kids :shock: (why?) About a year ago, my husband and I were up in Solvang walking around the shops…and we saw David C at a restaraunt, I must say it was a bit shocking.

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  361. Up the Coast said on September 28th, 2012 at 6:25 pm

    @Tetta:
    Exactly! :cry:

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  362. Up the Coast said on September 28th, 2012 at 6:28 pm

    @WCKitty:
    It’s probably crowded in the Brangelina household also….waiting in line for the bathroom, just like at Disneyland? haha.

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  363. WCKitty said on September 28th, 2012 at 6:45 pm

    @Up the Coast:
    I don’t know if I would have been able to tell it was him if it had been me. I once saw Cheryl Ladd ( a long time ago) while out with some friends in San Francisco and I didn’t recognize her. My friend kept telling me it was and I wasn’t so sure. Friend was right! :lol: Didn’t David have a kidney transplant? I still like a lot of their music and it will be a sad day when we no longer have the option to go or not go to one of their concerts.

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  364. WCKitty said on September 28th, 2012 at 6:48 pm

    @Up the Coast:
    From what I have heard, I wouldn’t want to use a bathroom that belongs to them! I’m surprised they haven’t gone the octomom route of just setting out porta-potties.

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  365. Up the Coast said on September 28th, 2012 at 6:59 pm

    @WCKitty:
    I think it was a liver transplant.

    @WCKitty:
    :lol: Didn’t she just have a row of potty chairs sitting on the patio? yuck.

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  366. WCKitty said on September 28th, 2012 at 7:04 pm

    @Up the Coast:
    You are right it was a liver transplant. And yep, she had them lined up against the back wall. I am glad that she is not my neighbor! :lol:

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  367. Guest2 said on September 28th, 2012 at 7:51 pm

    @Tetta:
    I agree too.

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  368. fluffy said on September 28th, 2012 at 8:35 pm

    BP Gold

    Nice to see you back again! My hairdresser works in one of the top hair dressing Salons in Double Bay Sydney Australia.
    JA is his favourite actress and he says she is hot. Most of his clients love Jennifer Aniston not just of her smoking hot body,beautiful face and her inner beauty. He does not like AJ and he is not gay!

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  369. guest3 said on September 28th, 2012 at 9:16 pm

    @guest 2
    Brad remains in his situation because perhaps he loves Angie and their six children. He loves the family they’ve built. Duh….

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  370. Patty Anne said on September 28th, 2012 at 9:58 pm

    To G-3-PO, Brad “remains” because he is free to do whomever he wants when he wants as his baby mamma has said “Fideliety Is Not Required”….guess she’s still in love with Jenny Shimizu. But this is just my opinion, the same as you spout your opinions here. @guest3:

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  371. Patty Anne said on September 28th, 2012 at 10:06 pm

    I think what’s wrong with these two is their mutual lust for devient sexual acts. Remember Brad loves to dress as a woman, slinky dress, heels, earrings, etc. while sucking on a gun barrell in one photo. Doesn’t that say a lot about his , ah hem, masculinity? Angie has stated proudly she is bi-sexual but many believe her to be lesbian. No one really cares as long as they don’t try to shove the big happy family down our throats while Shiloh has sported bruises and missing teeth since a toddler, or can anyone forget the article Angie laughs as her children cry? No, these two enjoy doing their “thang” and have amassed a child army to create the illusion of being relatively normal in today’s society. Huge failure when they hire six nannies to raise these children, boast neither can cook for them, and are rarely seen with them without back up to handle the kids. Sure, they alternate time “working” which I feel is code for engaging in drugs in Amsterdam (Brad), or screwing a famous Italian on the London Eye (Angie)….the fame, the fake PR just enables them to dip even deeper into the darkness of their lustful hearts. That is what is making them both so ugly. Karma kicks arse.@Guest2:

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  372. Up the Coast said on September 28th, 2012 at 10:38 pm

    @Patty Anne:
    +1

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  373. dream said on September 28th, 2012 at 10:54 pm

    @WCKitty:
    I guess I am weird but octos spotty training was about the only normal thing I have seen her do. I know a lot of people that went the no pants and spotty in what ever room the kid is in training route. With 8 kids its a lot of potties but I am not sure how else you would do it with 8 kids one adult.

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  374. dream said on September 28th, 2012 at 10:57 pm

    Auto correct does not like p o t t y

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  375. dream said on September 28th, 2012 at 11:07 pm

    @Patty Anne:
    Wouldn’t it be interesting to see them out as a family at a nice restaurant. That is something all kids need to be exposed to so they can fit in as they get older. Its a normal place all parents take their kids to in order to practise manners and learn to be confident in public. I just find it weird we seldom see any celebs doing it. You would think its where parents want to show off their kids. All clean and on best behavior.

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  376. WCKitty said on September 28th, 2012 at 11:15 pm

    @dream:
    I agree it would be hard with eight children and I most certainly wouldn’t advise the pant-less route. My memory isn’t working all that well today, but I believe that the main reason she had all the potties outside was because there was a problem with the plumbing. I have nothing against the potties, I just wouldn’t line the potties up outside especially if the neighbors got a view. If they didn’t then I guess it really isn’t that bad. The whole scene was compounded by the mess outside and the graffiti sprayed by her children all over the house’s exterior and interior.

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  377. Guest2 said on September 29th, 2012 at 6:59 am

    @dream:
    The most normal pix I’ve seen of those kids are the ones taken at the park in france recently where they actually looked like they were having fun. But X17 posted some where you could see knox squirming to get out of aj’s arms and there was no interaction between them. You can also see one of the nannies. The kids look the most miserable when they are out with both parents.

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  378. guest3 said on September 29th, 2012 at 8:02 am

    @PattyAnne
    There you go again.. Believing Tabs with no credible source or photos to back-up your claims. My, how hypocritical of you when I speak of JA. Please provide photos of Angie with Jenny the past 8 years or better yet the past 10 years and while you’re at it include those candid photos of Brad in a dress…Obviously, you don’t have children.. They always come home bruised/banged up from playing. My 10 year old just came home the other day bruised running to open the door for classmates as a door monitor and slipped and fell. I just saw a photo of Ben Affleck’s youngest daughter with several bruises on her leg. And the missing teeth, my sister lost her two front teeth when she fell as a toddler and had to wait until her permanent teeth grew in at 7-8 years old. So for 5 years she had missing teeth. That quote that you used about “Fidelity” from Angie was dispelled several years ago. It came from a German Tab that Angie never interviewed with. Do your research!!
    @Dream
    So now you would like to see a photo of the family having dinner inside a restaurant. But wouldn’t that be pimping their kids? Considering paps wouldn’t be allowed to take photos of the family having dinner inside a restaurant. But I forgot, you seem to know what this family does 24/7 , 365 days a year. Are you a relative? or an employee of the JP’s? please tell me what the kids had for dinner last week. Did they have a sit-down dinner at their home? or was it Cheetos in the attic? Was it waffles, cereal or potato chips for breakfast yesterday morning? (Sarcasm). You sound so ridiculous to think you know what any HW family does on any given day. You don’t and I don’t. We based our opinions on several photos we see each year or in Jen Garner, Jessica Alba, Gwen Stefani, Heidi Klum, case almost everyday, If you like a star, they are a great mother and Father.. If you don’t .. they are horrible, they don’t take care of the kids.. There must be an army of nannies. If you like the star you never notice the nannies lurking in the background for their 1-3 children and never admit that they use help. Unlike Angie, who’ve talked about not being the average mom, she works 4-6 months out of a year and can afford help. She has never claimed to be “SuperMom”. She and Brad admitted they tried but when the twins came along they had to hire help. Their children have tutors because they bring the kids with them everywhere they go. They don’t leave them at home in LA w/ nannies and not see them for months at a time.
    Ben Affleck just said he couldn’t be a stay at home dad; his work was more important. Jen takes care of those things. Well Ben sounds like a dad from the 50’s or 60’s. Where’s the outraged? He probably doesn’t see his kids for a month at a time. Maybe there will be a tell-all book from Violet and Sera when they are older. “My father wasn’t there for us and he cheated on our Mom”. or I’m on drugs because I never had a father figure”.

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  379. Up the Coast said on September 29th, 2012 at 1:07 pm

    Blah, blah, blah, :roll: You forgot to say: IN YOUR OPINION!!! Cuz that’s all it is.

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  380. Patty Anne said on September 29th, 2012 at 1:09 pm

    For those who are concerned about the direction the US is taking:

    Fox News is going to air the documentary Obama 2016.
    HEADS UP For This Sunday Night 9:00 PM

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  381. Patty Anne said on September 29th, 2012 at 1:10 pm

    My goodness, do I hear the rush of hot air? Truth hurts huh?@guest3:

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  382. Up the Coast said on September 29th, 2012 at 1:22 pm

    http://www.oddee.com/_media/imgs/articles2/a96941_a582_2-angelina-jolie.jpg

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  383. Up the Coast said on September 29th, 2012 at 1:22 pm

    @Patty Anne:
    Thanks for the heads up.

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  384. Patty Anne said on September 29th, 2012 at 1:23 pm

    I loved the photos taken with G’ma and G’pa Pitt in Venice where they were running, jumping and laughing freely like normal kids not on Photo Op Duty….that was very real and touching.@Guest2:

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  385. Patty Anne said on September 29th, 2012 at 1:24 pm

    Welcome! Every America needs to watch this film regardless of your party afilliation. Sometimes your decision has to be made on performance and not on rhetoric.@Up the Coast:

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  386. Up the Coast said on September 29th, 2012 at 1:29 pm

    Even the men in this picture aren’t treating her like a REAL pregnant woman http://www.babble.com/cs/blogs/famecrawler/10yhooy.jpg

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  387. Up the Coast said on September 29th, 2012 at 1:34 pm

    Could it be that AJ kept the fake belly she wore in the Mighty Heart? :lol: http://cdn01.cdn.justjared.com/wp-content/uploads/headlines/2012/09/jennifer-aniston-fake-baby-bump-in-smartwater-video.jpg

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  388. Up the Coast said on September 29th, 2012 at 1:39 pm

    http://images.paraorkut.com/img/funnypics/images/a/angelina_jolie-12365.bmp

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  389. janindisguise said on September 29th, 2012 at 1:41 pm

    I have autumn fever. Going to get some things ORANGE. My fav color also. Just retired. Am happy as a lark, or ‘over the moon’. Heh.

    Love to all

    J.I.Disguise

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  390. Up the Coast said on September 29th, 2012 at 1:42 pm

    Emulating Mommy? http://cdn.imnotobsessed.com/wp-content/uploads/FFN_Jolie_Angelina_SME_031412_8872172.jpg

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  391. janindisguise said on September 29th, 2012 at 1:43 pm

    I have autumn fever. Going to get some things ORANGE. My fav color also. Just retired. Am happy as a lark, or ‘over the moon’. Heh.

    Love to all

    J.I.Disguise
    @Up the Coast:

    RE: Octumom – it just ain’t happening, Much work to do there.

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  392. Up the Coast said on September 29th, 2012 at 1:43 pm

    @janindisguise:
    Congratulations!

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  393. Guest1 said on September 29th, 2012 at 2:01 pm

    Blind item revealed today from CDAN:

    June 18, 2007

    You looking to find some of the biggest names in Hollywood all in one place? Movie stars, basketball players, producers? Head over to Koreatown in LA. There is an internet cafe that isn’t really an internet cafe. It actually holds a high-stakes, cash only poker game that requires a $100,000 minimum buy-in, plus a $50,000 initiation fee into the club. Wonder why a celebrity who always said they would never do a commercial suddenly turns up in one? How about because this A+ lister lost $2M in one night. Of course, his pain was eased by the companionship of several different women during the night. You do get something for that $50,000 initiation fee.

    Commercial – Brad Pitt
    A Lister – Tobey Maguire

    http://www.crazydaysandnights.net/2012/09/blind-items-revealed_29.html

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  394. Patty Anne said on September 29th, 2012 at 2:16 pm

    LOL, that’s what too much oral sex will do to her.@Up the Coast:

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  395. Patty Anne said on September 29th, 2012 at 2:18 pm

    Hmmmmmm, so that would explain the sudden need for more cash. Seems Brad is looking for excitement in all the wrong places.@Guest1:

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  396. Guest2 said on September 29th, 2012 at 2:34 pm

    @Up the Coast:
    Does octo have a 10 yr old?

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  397. Guest2 said on September 29th, 2012 at 2:35 pm

    @janindisguise:
    Congratulations, your time is finally your own. Enjoy.

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  398. Up the Coast said on September 29th, 2012 at 2:41 pm

    @Guest1:
    I guess he’s not getting enough excitement in his life :lol:

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  399. Up the Coast said on September 29th, 2012 at 2:43 pm

    @Guest2:
    I’d have to look that up….but she had 6 kids BEFORE she became Octomom…so she probably does have a 10 yr old.

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  400. Guest2 said on September 29th, 2012 at 2:44 pm

    @Guest1:
    So now he has to pay for it?

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  401. Guest2 said on September 29th, 2012 at 2:46 pm

    @Up the Coast:
    I only mentioned it because the windbag said she has a 10 yr old so wondered if octo’s here defending her idol.

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  402. Guest2 said on September 29th, 2012 at 2:48 pm

    @Patty Anne:
    He’s been doing that since 2004 which probably explains why he looks the way he does.

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  403. Guest2 said on September 29th, 2012 at 3:01 pm

    I keep thinking of this photo and wondering what’s wrong with her mouth. Does she have a new set of teeth or is she getting an overbite? Does hep c cause dental problems?

    http://www.bohomoth.com/?p=14749

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  404. WCKitty said on September 29th, 2012 at 3:14 pm

    @Guest2:
    I wouldn’t be surprised if it is octomom even though she is supposedly the only child of both of her parents. She does have children that are around 10-years old. She does have a lot in common with Angie and it would explain her hatred for Jen Garner.

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  405. Up the Coast said on September 29th, 2012 at 3:42 pm

    @Guest2:
    Oh yea….(that was my point also).

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  406. Up the Coast said on September 29th, 2012 at 3:53 pm

    @Guest2:
    I’ve been wondering about that for awhile….she had braces as a kid, so at one point her teeth were very straight (when the braces were removed). Now they seem to be splayed and bucked out in front….but this picture makes them look like false teeth :shock: So I don’t know what’s going on with her mouth. I’ve brought up the question, before, about having cheek or chin implants….where they go in from the mouth, maybe it has effected her teeth? And another thing, IF she has HepC, it might complicate dental/surgical procedures because her blood is infected.

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  407. Tetta said on September 29th, 2012 at 4:21 pm

    This is only a theory. As she is anorectic and a drug addict and has been so for a long time I guess she suffers from osteoporosis. Perhaps the jaw shape changes and gets smaller and her teats are pressured outwards. Her teeth could also be damaged so she has new facades. That isn´t a bloody procedure and the risk for infections are small.

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  408. Kate said on September 29th, 2012 at 4:56 pm

    @rushdog:
    Rush, the pool above looks different to me that the one at the Renaissance Seaworld. The background is not the same, nor is the decor. This the pool from the hotel-

    http://www.renaissanceseaworldorlando.com/Photo-Gallery-Sea-World-Orlando-8-1.html

    The tag does not identify it as the Orlando pool, just an outdoor pool , V2 low resolution. Could this be a nod to a video on a computer possibly, or photo on a computer?

    I don’t personally believe the JP is Jane Pitt, but rather he is using it to identify Jennifer Pitt. Ian used the tag when he Did the Frozen Fromage using Jen Aniston, and I believe Louisiana Girl at that time realized it meant Jennifer Pitt. Possibly old photos, although this seems to connect with the story before when he was using many of the Jen references and the missing laptop. dunno. The other photo on the hotel website is tagged that it was taken from a view “across the street” if that helps at all.

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  409. Guest2 said on September 29th, 2012 at 4:58 pm

    I remember the discussion about her teeth now that you mention it. They look so different in that photo; maybe Tetta is right that she has veneers or maybe you’re right about the implants causing problems with the teeth. She should give herself a break and leave her face alone for a while. Lay off the booze, drugs and eat some real food. It’s a novel idea but might be worth a shot.

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  410. Kate said on September 29th, 2012 at 5:03 pm

    @Guest1:
    Brads has been doing commercials over seas though long before 2007. Levi 1991 For Roots in 2000, He did a coffee commercial, forgotten when that was, but it had a MAMS feel to it, Honda, Toyoto, and who can forget Pringles, LOL

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  411. Kate said on September 29th, 2012 at 5:05 pm

    @Patty Anne:
    Does it mention what is going to happen to all those little kids with special needs? Poor kids. I wonder what Brad and Angelina think about that particular part of Obamacare? Poor kids.

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  412. Kate said on September 29th, 2012 at 5:13 pm

    @Kate:
    That could be an older photo above of the pool at the hotel. The one of the website is much cleared, looks renovated, some changes have been made to some of the structure, no clock, blue cushions, and it is taken at a different angle. I have never there . The more I look at the two though, it looks as though the one on the site, is a new renovated photo, very clear, and the one above, blurry, and before renovation.

    http://www.renaissanceseaworldorlando.com/Press-Renaissance-Orlando-Resort-at-SeaWorld-Recently-Renovated–Offers-Array-of-Summer-Vacation-Packages-at-Great-Rates-4-65.html

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  413. ream said on September 29th, 2012 at 5:19 pm

    @WCKitty:
    there was one bath not working but others in the house that were.
    a lot of people i know did the potty on the patio while training as well. that method if kids are old enough and get it, usually only takes 3 or 4 days.
    then they are ready for big kid pants.
    its not for everyone, but i will have to say 1 adult how on earth could she rush two or more kids at once to teo or more bathroons and get pants down fast enough?

    i am not trying to argue just sort of thinking it out loud. that woman boggles my brain everytime i think of her

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  414. Patty Anne said on September 29th, 2012 at 5:26 pm

    And an age limit on performing surgeries. Over 70 years of age? Forget it. How can a society ignore it’s elderly?@Kate:

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  415. ream said on September 29th, 2012 at 5:27 pm

    @guest3:
    wow Can I have some of what you’re taking?
    i think you have me very much confused with someone else.
    Taking kids out to dinner would be a normal wholesome family outing. Yes I would like to see that.

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  416. Patty Anne said on September 29th, 2012 at 5:28 pm

    So would that be Ian’s way of indicating this refers to the time when Jennifer’s last name was Pitt? @Kate:

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  417. Patty Anne said on September 29th, 2012 at 5:29 pm

    Irrepairable damage? I’m still trying to figure that one out.@Up the Coast:

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  418. WCKitty said on September 29th, 2012 at 5:30 pm

    @Kate:
    I was just going to post that maybe there was a renovation because I see the same photo that Ian posted (with the clock) on this site.
    http://renaissance-hotels.marriott.com/renaissance-orlando-at-seaworld

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  419. ream said on September 29th, 2012 at 5:41 pm

    @Patty Anne:
    isnt that what happened to doris brocke? probably screwed that name ip bad.her male hosuekeeper talked her into getting a total body lift, as a way to legally kill her.

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  420. Kate said on September 29th, 2012 at 6:42 pm

    “replyTo” href=”#comment-149516″>@Patty Anne:

    The frozen fromage puzzle was about something she did while she was legally married, and the photo above is from when they were married, so possibly this is about a deal or an agreement they made while she was still married to him? I haven’t really thought about Ian changing the photos too much because I don’t remember what was there to begin with. Is the comment above that ends with shines new? Or was that put up with the original promo to the hotel?

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  421. Kate said on September 29th, 2012 at 6:52 pm

    Jo @WCKitty:
    Yes I think you are right, so maybe he is confirming this is something about them when they were married, although the photo has been altered hasn’t it, the resolution, that is why it is blurry? When it was reposted it was changed..? I don’t know. With the elections , and the middle east on fire I quite understand why Ian does not just post it at this point. What are any of them going to do right in the middle of Brad’s Oscar campaign and, both of their “engagements” ? Samcc!!!!!! ;)

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  422. Kate said on September 29th, 2012 at 7:10 pm

    Hello@Patty Anne:

    Cavalier. That is a nice way to put it. ;)

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  423. x said on September 29th, 2012 at 9:38 pm

    @Patty Anne:
    The no surgery after 70 or 75 is a hoax. You know that right? It was another scare tactic invented by the right wing to scare the elderly into voting for them. It’s horrible how many people believe this to be fact. Don’t believe it tho, it is not true regardless of how much pandering is going on. There is no age limit for surgeries, only the Dr who will determine if the patient is a good candidate, age is unrelated.

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  424. dream said on September 29th, 2012 at 10:00 pm

    Anyone notice the pic behind the mirror is only one of the pictures?

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  425. Up the Coast said on September 29th, 2012 at 10:05 pm

    @x:
    So you’ve read the entire PPACA? Cool :) I know Nancy Pelosi said they needed to pass it before anyone could read it :shock: but I thought she was just being an ignorant B ;) I haven’t read it myself, but I’ve talked to some doctors about it, and so far they don’t seem very impressed with the changes and/or the future of healthcare.

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  426. Up the Coast said on September 29th, 2012 at 10:22 pm

    @Kate:
    I am with you on this Kate :) Just Do It Ian!!!

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  427. WCKitty said on September 29th, 2012 at 11:02 pm

    @Up the Coast:
    I haven’t read the entire PPACA, but I have read up on the age rumor and I have heard that it’s not true. I’m not saying that the PPACA is a good thing, but I want the truth. It’s just like the stories coming out about how Canada also had the age requirement rumor, but my own grandma had more than one hip surgery after the age of 70 and my other grandma lived past a 100 even after having a few strokes. My grandfather also had surgeries after the age of 70. Two of my siblings were treated quickly in the ER in Canada also. Maybe it’s because of the insurance money, but they still didn’t wait for hours like I have had to do more than once in what are considered top-notch hospitals while covered by insurance here in California. I am also related to a doctor here in the United States and she went into specialized care and then sold her practice a number of years ago. I was told one of the reasons was because of the mountain of paperwork required by the insurance companies. I have also known other doctors who have quit or left their practice over the last decade or so. I have known nurses that have also quit.

    In the meantime, my health insurance bill continues to rise every few months and it’s not because of the expense to treat our family. I have heard that it is because of the cost of new technology and medicine. Now many employers are either not providing health insurance to their employees or are limiting the hours new hires are allowed to work so they legally don’t have to cover them (and I know this for a fact in relation to one very well-known company). Somehow this all comes back to the insurance companies. :(

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  428. dream said on September 29th, 2012 at 11:03 pm

    Just for fun no one in here has a bacon number higher than 5. Of course some of u may be closer ;) .

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  429. P. Gold said on September 29th, 2012 at 11:17 pm

    @fluffy:

    I always lurk but seldom post cos I dont know much about other celebs or politics or world events. I dont follow much. As for talking asbout the brand, I find it easy to speak my mind as I tend to put myself in Jen’s shoes and see what I would do or act if in her situation.

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  430. x said on September 29th, 2012 at 11:47 pm

    @Up the Coast:
    And there are drs who think it’s a great thing. I think it all depends on your vantage point as a Dr., all along a spectrum of establishment based care, to patient centered care. I know a Dr who left the US to go to Canada (shocking!) because he was tired of being encouraged to attract the right patients (the ones with a large income and great insurance) and just wanted to practice medicine. He says he will go back when OC becomes effective. It really depends on who you talk to I guess. :-)

    There’s an org called National Ctr for Policy Analysis, a supposed non partisan think tank of experts and scholars who research and advise on different govt policies. OC has most of their attention these days and they’ve been behind alot of the fear mongering behind it incl this elderly surgery rumor. Well, in reality they are a right wing conservative org based in Dallas who are funded mainly by well known conservatives and the insurance industry. Go figure. Their Chair is a ret Republican Senator while the 2nd in command is a frequent commentator on Fox News. 8-)

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  431. SteelMagnolia said on September 30th, 2012 at 12:41 am

    I am a frequent lurker here and I just wanted to say how much I enjoy this site. I detest the Jolie-Pitts because I find them to be incredibly holier-than-thou-special snowflake types. Their lurve is so special, their family is so special, they are so special…no need for structure and stability for their children and no need for a marriage certificate for them!! Pish, posh, they are better, more enlightened than all of us! I do not like their vibe at all.
    As for Jen Aniston, she has treated them both publically far better than they deserved. I hope she and Justin and blissfully happy.
    So what do ya’ll make of Brad’s recent comments that when he takes a break from his phone, they’ll get married, expect an announcement?
    Once again, thanks for the entertaining reading.

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  432. Up the Coast said on September 30th, 2012 at 1:05 am

    @WCKitty:
    Walmart was one of those companies, they work their employees just under 40 hrs a wk. They also supply their employees with info to sign up for MediCal!!! Using the state (low income) health insurance for their employees, instead of providing it themselves.
    The thing is….we don’t really know how this is going to work, so until we start paying for it and start using it, then we will know (and it will be too late). It just seems to me….if this is such a great idea/plan, WHY aren’t the Senators and Congressmen going to be on it with us? Oh, and the President too.

    @x:
    I haven’t come across any doctors, so far, that think highly of this plan. I guess time will tell. I don’t mean to sound so negative…I’m just tired of all the political games, and being told that “they” need to pass something in order for us to read it, after Obama swore his administration would be transparent (which was just another lie) was the last straw for me.

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  433. WCKitty said on September 30th, 2012 at 2:52 am

    @Up the Coast:
    I’ve heard about Walmart, but I didn’t know about the MediCal part! That makes me angry along with a lot of other stuff that has been going on. Safeway/Vons, their competitor has also cut their employees hours, but I don’t think that they tell their employees to sign up for MediCal. I’ve heard their employees badmouth their union and how they have had trouble when they have been injured on the job.

    To be honest, I don’t trust any politicians and I’m tired of corporations running this country. I see and hear a lot from all different sides and I have friends/relatives from different political parties and economic status’s and they all have their reasons. I see this country becoming so divided and I feel that it is part of the plan. You aren’t the only one who is negative…sorry. :(

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  434. Guest2 said on September 30th, 2012 at 9:18 am

    I didn’t think OC was universal health care like they have in Canada but that it was modeled somewhat after the Massachusetts plan which makes insurance available to everyone to purchase through a “connector” if you don’t have it through an employer. Most employers still provide insurance. The drawback to the MA plan is that it is mandatory so if you don’t have some type of insurance you are penalized on your income tax returns. The other problem is that lower income workers or those who have been laid off and collect unemployment fall into the welfare plan. The premiums are low to none but it is a nightmare of paperwork that routinely has to be filled out and if it’s not done properly they cut off the insurance and then you have to apply again. I think the politicians are subject to the same health care that all Federal employees get which is private insurance similar to what other employers offer but there are different plans so I’m sure the senators can afford to pay for the top of the line plans (I know people who work for the government and this is what they told me).

    The high cost of healthcare is such a complex problem and I don’t think that insurance companies are entirely to blame. I know someone who is a doctor at a hospital affiliated practice that is managed by a company who puts pressure on them to increase their billings and the only way to do that is to see more patients, or existing patients more frequently, order more testing, etc. There’s also the advanced and expensive medical technology, a population that lives longer than ever, very high drug costs, pharmaceutical companies giving physicians financial incentives to prescribe their (usually expensive higher tier) drugs, insurance fraud and on it goes.

    As for OC, there is so much disinformation and misrepresentation on both sides of the political fence that it’s nearly impossible to know the truth. I hope that the Fox program gives us the unbiased truth tonight. I do believe that OC is the first step toward a Canadian style one payer system. I don’t know anymore if that is a good or a bad thing. The private health insurance offered by employers is becoming much more expensive and burdensome, especially on families with children. And something is definitely wrong when seniors have to travel to Canada to buy medicine at affordable prices. This is all jmo.

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  435. guest 3 said on September 30th, 2012 at 9:48 am

    @ PattyAnne
    Are you talking to yourself? Truth hurts because you still haven’t posted photos or credible sources. Posters have caught on to your lies. Considering there’s only 350 comments and this post has been up for 3 weeks. It’s the same 5 posters. I remember a time when there would’ve been over 1,000 comments by this time.
    JA announces her engagement but hasn’t been seen with her fiance in over 2 months.. The ring, the couple, and IVF presganncy will show up probably about the time Brad’s KTS Us premiere in Nov. or when they think the JP’s got married.
    Watch this unfold! or the other scenario.. JA and JTX will announce their break-up. There is Lonely Jen again , now turning 44 years old. JTX will get major hate.. He’s no longer hotter than Brad. He’s an Ass, a Golddigger, no longer a successful screenwriter .
    I shouldn’t have posted those scenarios; they may change up the outcome because they read this stuff.

    I truly believe people change their minds as they become older. But didn’t JA say in the 2005 Vanity fair article that she’ll be married with a child in 5 years? Well, we are now heading into 2013 in 3 months. Isn’t that 3 years past her declaration?

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  436. dream said on September 30th, 2012 at 10:04 am

    @Up the Coast:
    Remember raven. Wwlmsrt only sold Amer made stuff.ole Sam’s probably spinning in his grave.

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  437. dream said on September 30th, 2012 at 10:12 am

    TThis is my last post with auto complete. Its worse thantyping with numb fingers. Gee compel are supposed to to help not makeit worse.
    @dream:
    @dream:

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  438. Guest2 said on September 30th, 2012 at 10:51 am

    I think this is an authentic copy of the bill but not entirely sure. At nearly 2000 pages and references to changes in other laws, it’s not wonder no one can understand what’s in there.

    http://housedocs.house.gov/rules/health/111_ahcaa.pdf

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  439. Guest2 said on September 30th, 2012 at 10:56 am

    @dream:
    Hi Dream, is there any American made stuff anymore? Very little I think besides cars.

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  440. Patty Anne said on September 30th, 2012 at 11:22 am

    http://www.mediaite.com/tv/no-fox-news-will-not-air-2016-obamas-america-documentary/
    I suppose we Americans will have to rely on our good sense as Fox will not be showing the video Obamas America 2016. Why is the news media of the US ignoring the obvious lies of the Obama administration regarding the killing of Ambassador Chris Stevens and three other Americans in Benghazi, Lybia. Why did UN Ambassador Susan Rice lie to the American people claiming it was the result of an out of control crowd demonstrating against a 14 min. YouTube Video when Congress was informed the Obama administration knew within 24 hours of the attack it was a planned terrorist attack set for 9/11 ? Obama lied. Susan Rice lied. Hillary Clinton lied. (didn’t her hubby get impeaced for lying?)……Wake up Americans. Do some research.
    http://www.mediaite.com/tv/no-fox-news-will-not-air-2016-obamas-america-documentary/

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  441. Tetta said on September 30th, 2012 at 11:25 am

    @guest 3:

    If any of your scenarios will become true, I don´t think you wii have the credit as a writer. Their agents have probably over 100 scenarios to choose from. I think there is another scenario they have in mind. A scenario that is a little more inspired by Walt Disney. At least it´s not good to wish for a bad ending. It says a lot of your personality.

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  442. Patty Anne said on September 30th, 2012 at 11:37 am

    QUOTE: ”
    If you listened to the briefing by anonymous US State Department officials just one day after the attack, paired the statements up with the local press reports on the Benghazi attack, and also took note that al Qaeda’s black banner was raised over the consulate, this all should have been painfully obvious [see Threat Matrix report, Ansar al Shariah issues statement on US Consulate assault in Libya].”

    Read more: http://www.longwarjournal.org/threat-matrix/archives/2012/09/benghazi_consulate_assault_a_t.php#ixzz27y4FTr9M

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  443. P. Gold said on September 30th, 2012 at 11:45 am

    @Tetta:

    Hehehe Tetta. As if Justjen will change the scenarios just because some looney predicted their outcome. Sounds more like Brandgelina’s cup of tea. She makes women sound so useless and unwanted by the time they reach 44. I guess she must be a woman hater.

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  444. Patty Anne said on September 30th, 2012 at 1:14 pm

    http://www.celebdirtylaundry.com/2012/angelina-jolie-hepatitis-c-liver-transplant-0923/
    Love the photo used for this article. It’s the real Angelina Jolie

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  445. Up the Coast said on September 30th, 2012 at 1:16 pm

    @WCKitty:
    +1 Psychopath’s rule the world and they aren’t looking out for you or I, they are looking out for themselves.

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  446. Up the Coast said on September 30th, 2012 at 1:17 pm

    @Patty Anne:
    Nasty Skank Alert! :shock:

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  447. Up the Coast said on September 30th, 2012 at 1:18 pm

    @P. Gold:
    Yea, she’s either a woman hater or she just hates herself!!!!

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  448. Up the Coast said on September 30th, 2012 at 1:35 pm

    @Guest2:
    Nicely said, and I agree with that….I don’t know that much about Canada’s system, but here they plan on having the IRS “police” the program, don’t they? :shock: That just doesn’t make sense to me. I agree with you that it’s not all on the insurance companies…there is enough fraud to go around and blame everyone involved, imo.
    For example…my FIL was just discharged from the hospital yesterday at 5pm. I thought it was weird that they would discharge a 95 yr old at 5pm….most hospitals discharge patients at 11am, don’t they??? He had a urinary tract infection, he tends to get them at least once a year…he doesn’t drink enough water, he’s 95. But, he has really good health insurance from a long career in the military….so what normally would take a prescription and send him home, took 3 days in the hospital…and when all was said and done, the diagnosis was exactly what we said it would be. The doctor had an attitude of “where did you go to medical school”?

    I couldn’t help but tell him that a year and a half ago THIS hospital told us my FIL was dying and sent him home with hospice care. It’s a long story, but the short version is….they didn’t know what the F they were talking about then, and they made sure that his insurance was maxed out! It would have maxed out the average persons insurance, but like I said, my FIL has really good coverage (probably as good as the congress/senate). So…I told the doctor, excuse ME if I question everything you do and say :evil:

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  449. Up the Coast said on September 30th, 2012 at 1:42 pm

    @dream:
    Yea :( Whatever happened to that? Back when they took pride in selling ‘Made In America’ products, my parents actually bought stock in the company :lol: Now…I will not shop there, I would rather take a few extra minutes to read where a product comes from, and pay a few extra dollars too. I understand it, I used to clip coupons to get by when I was raising my kids, but I’ve got nothing but time now, so I feel compelled to try and make a tiny difference wherever I can :)

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  450. Tetta said on September 30th, 2012 at 1:44 pm

    @P. Gold:

    It´s hard to believe a human being be so hateful. She hates all and everything. I feel sad for her child / ren.
    It can´t be fun to have such a negative mother.

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  451. Up the Coast said on September 30th, 2012 at 1:45 pm

    @Guest2:
    I wonder how many jobs were created in order to read/understand this thing? Overtime or extra pay for traveling to seminars/classes? :lol: Obama probably counted this as ‘jobs created’.

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  452. Kate said on September 30th, 2012 at 2:07 pm

    @guest 3:
    There is approx 30 posters, and you G3 are part of that, and in fact have posted more than some of the long time regulars. :) . There is a little ove 400 comments on this post, and much of that is to your credi. As of late the only time the numbers climb is when opinions differ, and since I have been a good girl ;) we can attribute this to you. As for when anyone surfaced, I understand Jennifer is going to be on Chelsea, does that coincide with the opening of KTS? I don’t know because I have been busy, and more important topics have my attention right now. I did notice that Brad said he was getting married soon. I will make a prediction. He will posture with this while promoting his film, and through Oscar campaigning. After that we will not. hear about it as much, SAME SPIN, DIFFERENT CYCLE. If Obama wins he will use him, if he loses he will talk out of the side of his mouth about how disappointed he is in the direction our country has taken. I would agree with him. I wi wonder if he has secretly changed his vote. Many have. It will go on and on and on , but but not too long because the rules changed again this year to reign in the manipulations by the studios in swaying voters for their films. If Brad is nominated for a Golden Globe, and not an AA, he is going to have to go in there and sip his drink and act like it does not bother him, because this year, it will have already been announced. Maybe he will help Angie with her lipgloss, j/k. FTR, I agree with some of what you said, but do not blame it on star, it is their job, just as all the little minor manipulations I lusted above. They are all trying to survive and stay relevant in this bad economy, like everyone, ya know. ;) To much that is given, much is expected! Let them all posture, there are many that need help. MAYBE WE CAN GET OBAMA TO MAKE IT MANDATORY THAT EVERY PERSON IN ENTERTAINMENT THAT PULLS DOWN MORE THAN ONE MILLION, HAS TI GIVE THE REST TO SOCIAL PROGRAMS AND HEALTH. That should work. lol YES I AM YELLING, I WANT TO MAKE SURE SOMEONE SEES IT.

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  453. Kate said on September 30th, 2012 at 2:12 pm

    @Kate:
    ETA. To to USA, if they
    ould like to support another cause outside of their backyard, then they can use part of the income they keep. LOL. The citizens in the US are the ones who give the most to international causes- anyway.

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  454. Patty Anne said on September 30th, 2012 at 2:14 pm

    Once again, well said Kate. I appreciate your calm logic even with the yelling at the end ( which was badly needed imo)@Kate:

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  455. Up the Coast said on September 30th, 2012 at 2:19 pm

    @Kate:
    EXACTLY!!!

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  456. Guest2 said on September 30th, 2012 at 2:42 pm

    @Up the Coast:
    I don’t know what’s going on with hospitals these days but, yes, they do discharge in the evening. I’m not sure why they do it but I think it’s because the bed is needed by another patient. I waited in the emergency with my mother for 12 hours when she had pneumonia a few years ago and they didn’t move her to a bed until one was available which was 10:00 pm. I’ve spent way too much time around hospitals the last few years and they are much different than they were 15 or 20 years ago. Not sure it’s for the better.

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  457. Kate said on September 30th, 2012 at 3:00 pm

    Hi@Patty Anne:
    I don’t think G3 is a bad poster or even unreasonable the majority of the time. She has been honest. She does not like Jen. Fair enough. PayPal does not like Justin, fair enough. I don’t believe in censoring the way someone feels or thinks. From the comments here some post at Female. First. There are some bright, funny, articulate, and for the most part respectful posters there. You and I both know though, not all of them, and some are vulgar, rude, just in general, even to their fellow posters if they do not agree. Hell hath no bury ofyu do not worship at the feet of Justin, and I am only making an observation or if one dares to question anything about Jen. One of their most beloved posters, who is always respectful , is pounced on at times. I have seen some equal post to what G3 writes about Jen, made here and there, by all us in the past, and some worse. It became much more of a double standard when Jen and Justin began promoting their relationship. Our country is so devided as it is, it is almost comical that these 4 middle age stars trying to stay as relevant as the Twi
    , and that after all these years they devise us as much as our politics do. lol, world is on fire. Chavez has some healthy competetion! Now Sean Penn and his support of Chavez, is worth being devices over. ;)

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  458. Kate said on September 30th, 2012 at 3:00 pm

    Hi@Patty Anne:
    I don’t think G3 is a bad poster or even unreasonable the majority of the time. She has been honest. She does not like Jen. Fair enough. PayPal does not like Justin, fair enough. I don’t believe in censoring the way someone feels or thinks. From the comments here some post at Female. First. There are some bright, funny, articulate, and for the most part respectful posters there. You and I both know though, not all of them, and some are vulgar, rude, just in general, even to their fellow posters if they do not agree. Hell hath no bury ofyu do not worship at the feet of Justin, and I am only making an observation or if one dares to question anything about Jen. One of their most beloved posters, who is always respectful , is pounced on at times. I have seen some equal post to what G3 writes about Jen, made here and there, by all us in the past, and some worse. It became much more of a double standard when Jen and Justin began promoting their relationship. Our country is so devided as it is, it is almost comical that these 4 middle age stars trying to stay as relevant as the Twi
    , and that after all these years they devise us as much as our politics do. lol, world is on fire. Chavez has some healthy competetion! Now Sean Penn and his support of Chavez, is worth being devices over. ;)

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  459. Kate said on September 30th, 2012 at 3:04 pm

    Sorry for the double post..meant we say equal things about Brange and in the past some worse, so I can not fault G3 for her opinion.

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  460. WCKitty said on September 30th, 2012 at 3:07 pm

    @Up the Coast:
    I’m glad that you were there for your FIL. That is strange that they discharged him at that hour. You are right that not all doctors know what they are talking about. I got into an argument with one a few years ago (one of those that think that they are God type). He kept telling me that I had poison oak when there is no way that it was poison oak. I know poison oak because I have had it several times to the point I was on the verge of being put into the hospital since I inhaled the stuff while it was burning. The rash/burn was nothing like it (I have never had poison oak with a burn or that also peeled off my skin) and anyway he tried to blame it on my cats who are indoor cats. He didn’t blame it on my dogs who go outdoors because as he informed me, “he hates cats.” The guy was a whack job and yes I’ve had other doctors that I’d never see again, including one that had a great reputation. It’s been a long time since I worked in the medical profession and I have to admit that insurance bills did get padded (at least where I worked). No, I didn’t do it.

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  461. Kate said on September 30th, 2012 at 3:12 pm

    @guest 3:. You know G3, Party is stating her opinion, as you are, fair right, it would make for a better debate if you could follow Liz’s example . She has posted her for a couple of years, always on behalf of Angelina, and I think everyone enjoys not just hercomments, but her as well. ;) You know Patty is not talking to herself, she is much much too young for that!!!! lol

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  462. Patty Anne said on September 30th, 2012 at 3:48 pm

    I have no idea what Guest 3 posted as I pass over any comment by that anonymous nick. I state my opinion as being such and if someone believes differently then that is THEIR opinion and accepted as such. Personal attacks simply degrade the opinion of the one being rude and disrespectful and don’t affect me or others who are attacked for stating theirs. It’s of no importance to me ; as I said, I do not pause on Guest 3’s comment to read them…..not ever after having learned her method of past rudeness in rebuttal.@Kate:

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  463. Up the Coast said on September 30th, 2012 at 3:54 pm

    @WCKitty:
    I have argued with doctors many times also. One time it was for a friend of mine…again, long story, but the short version is that she was on a blood thinner because of a blood clot. SHE was supposed to see the doctor every 4 wks for a blood test and she blew it off a couple times in a row. Then, she started her period and almost bled to death (not kidding). They kept her in the hospital for a week and took every test in the book…I tried to tell her doctor it was because of the blood thinner (they are very dangerous if not monitored by a doctor). The doctor was so hell bent on trying to blame something else, and I even said it wasn’t the doctors fault, it was my friends fault for blowing off her appts (although a GOOD doctor would have taken further steps, imo) but he just looked at me and said: WHO are you again???
    Her discharge papers, after about 10 pages of gobbly-gook, stated there was a build up of the blood thinner which caused her to bleed too heavily. DUH. All of the tests they took came back fine. Some things are just common sense, and doctors USED to listen to patients and go from there….whatever happened to those days? I might blame medical malpractice, except that nowadays you can’t even sue the hospital because there’s a cap on it or you have to agree to mediation when you sign in at admitting.

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  464. Up the Coast said on September 30th, 2012 at 4:01 pm

    @Guest2:
    12 hrs in an ER is ridiculous and unacceptable!!!

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  465. Patty Anne said on September 30th, 2012 at 4:04 pm

    That’s why I’d love to see the return of the family doctor. We have one locally who has us spoiled, but often you can’t reach him, so it’s a trade off. I do know those doctors I had worked with were very concerned about the negative effect ObamacareTax will have on their profession and many stated they’d have to drop a lot of pt.s they had been treating due to the changes in those particular cases. I suppose we’ll soon find out.@Up the Coast:

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  466. Up the Coast said on September 30th, 2012 at 4:05 pm

    @Patty Anne:
    I don’t waste my time reading them anymore either….There’s no point in trying to talk sense into someone who thinks a skanky whore is a saint. If she wants to look up to a whore, that’s her choice.

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  467. Up the Coast said on September 30th, 2012 at 4:13 pm

    @Patty Anne:
    They have these doctors now called concierge doctors (I think that’s right). They charge a couple grand up front, but they are on call 24/7 and they bill your insurance for everything beyond the annual fee. We almost went that route for my FIL, but we found another doctor who comes to him, but it’s within regular business hours.

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  468. WCKitty said on September 30th, 2012 at 4:19 pm

    @Patty Anne:
    I remember the family doctor that used to make house-calls when I was a child. Then there was the front door prescription delivery, which of course would be a very dangerous job today. I believe that Safeway’s grocery delivery service does that, but maybe not for certain drugs. You can still have a family doctor that will take their time with you if you have several thousand dollars you can pay them a year. I’ve heard other doctors are going to go that route. Whether-or-not they do is like everything else, but I’ve heard that the doctors take on only so many patients and that the patient buys into the right to be part of their on-call patient list.

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  469. WCKitty said on September 30th, 2012 at 4:22 pm

    @Up the Coast:
    Woops was writing my response when you posted yours. I’ve heard it’s more like five grand or more. Maybe it has to do with where you live? You’re lucky you found another doctor who makes house-calls.

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  470. Patty Anne said on September 30th, 2012 at 4:22 pm

    That’s wonderful that some doctors still make house calls, but I think they are the rarity today. The doctor I speak of has started a clinic as he is elderly, and his daughter, herself an MD, runs it while he can still do the country doctor thing. Anyone who is ill today has to be pro-active and do the research or they are stuck in the system of squeezing the last penny out of the insurance company most hospitals do today. @Up the Coast:

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  471. Up the Coast said on September 30th, 2012 at 4:23 pm

    @WCKitty:
    BTW….just the thought of inhaling poison oak smoke :shock: aack!

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  472. Patty Anne said on September 30th, 2012 at 4:24 pm

    Even in such a large area as where I live , it is difficult to find a doctor who will take you as a patient today. They are already becoming selective upon the dx they will treat as primary physician. I don’t know where this will end, but it is worrying.@WCKitty:

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  473. Up the Coast said on September 30th, 2012 at 4:31 pm

    @WCKitty:
    @Patty Anne:
    Since there are more elderly people than ever before….and all us baby boomers are getting old :( as we speak…maybe it’s coming full circle and doctor’s are realizing it’s easier to come to the patient. And seeing a patient in their own environment probably answers alot of questions for the doctor, if you know what I mean.

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  474. Up the Coast said on September 30th, 2012 at 4:35 pm

    Anybody else watching the Ryder Cup today? Go USA :)

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  475. WCKitty said on September 30th, 2012 at 4:36 pm

    @Up the Coast:
    It was awful!!! I knew I had poison oak before we even got home. Try as I might, I try to avoid the stuff, but I still find it. However, I usually stay away from the Napa Valley during the fall when they have those burn piles. :lol:

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  476. WCKitty said on September 30th, 2012 at 4:43 pm

    @Up the Coast:
    You watched ‘House’? I think that it is also healthier for the other patients. Sitting in a waiting room, not to mention getting there, and your immune system is probably already low and there you are sitting in an area full of germs from the other sick patients. Not good.

    I remember when I was a kid, my mom took me to the doctor, and they took one look at me when I walked through the door and they hauled me out of there real quick. I had the mumps. No fancy equipment needed and everyone else could have been spared from patients with that type of illness.

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  477. WCKitty said on September 30th, 2012 at 4:51 pm

    @Patty Anne:
    I have had the same problem in the past. Then when I have found a doctor, they either move or retire. Many doctors go the specialist route, so general practitioners are hard to find. My children’s friends are going to college to be either veterinarians, nurses, or surgeons.

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  478. Up the Coast said on September 30th, 2012 at 5:12 pm

    @WCKitty:
    Good idea!

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  479. Up the Coast said on September 30th, 2012 at 5:17 pm

    @WCKitty:
    It’s common sense, isn’t it? (I used to watch House, but after awhile I realized that I really hated that guy!) :lol: His character on that show is a real a-hole!

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  480. Tetta said on September 30th, 2012 at 5:26 pm

    @Up the Coast:

    My husband sits in our sofa talking to the European players :shock” He´definitely not a US fan right now. I have some problem watching Tiger Woods. I havn´t forgive him. Wonder if Elin has ?

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  481. WCKitty said on September 30th, 2012 at 5:26 pm

    @Up the Coast:
    Oh, I don’t like his character either. Once in awhile he will surprise you, but as with most people with his mental type, it’ usually for a self-serving reason. At least his character finally got arrested and served time. :P The scary part is that there are people out there like him. I know at least a couple. :(

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  482. Tetta said on September 30th, 2012 at 5:27 pm

    @Tetta:

    I meant he looks like this :shock:

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  483. WCKitty said on September 30th, 2012 at 5:29 pm

    @Tetta:
    I like your avi!!! :P

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  484. Up the Coast said on September 30th, 2012 at 5:39 pm

    @Tetta:
    I haven’t forgiven Tiger either, but I’m happy that Elin is free of him ;) The US is choking right now :(

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  485. Up the Coast said on September 30th, 2012 at 5:41 pm

    @WCKitty:
    Oh dang, I missed that.

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  486. Up the Coast said on September 30th, 2012 at 5:42 pm

    @Tetta:
    :lol: My husband looks like this :cry:

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  487. Tetta said on September 30th, 2012 at 5:51 pm

    @Up the Coast:

    Right now my husband looks like this :lol:

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  488. Tetta said on September 30th, 2012 at 5:55 pm

    @WCKitty:

    Thank You WC Kitty. In Sweden we have celebrated “The Harvest Festival” this weekend. My avi is one of the emblems used for this event.

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  489. WCKitty said on September 30th, 2012 at 6:03 pm

    @Up the Coast:
    Actually is was quite disturbing and he served for a while (and should have served longer IMO). Then he got out because they needed him to solve a case. The incident is why Cutty left. My son downloaded the shows since there was nothing else to watch. This is the last season so I just want to see what happens for some strange reason. The character is an awful person, but he does save lives.

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  490. Up the Coast said on September 30th, 2012 at 6:04 pm

    @Tetta:
    :lol: hahahahaha! I just told my husband that….and now we are both laughing too! :lol: The pressure is really on…yikes.

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  491. Up the Coast said on September 30th, 2012 at 6:06 pm

    @Tetta:
    Tetta, my hubby says to send you ‘one’ where he’s covering his eyes….I told him we don’t have ‘one’ like that!

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  492. WCKitty said on September 30th, 2012 at 6:07 pm

    @Tetta:
    @Up the Coast:
    I don’t like Tiger Woods either. IMO he has the same mental condition that Eddie C., LeAnn, and Arnie have. Of course there are many others out there and they all need to be put on an island that has no escape route. They can prey on each other. They can take the Kardashian’s with them for entertainment. :P

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  493. Up the Coast said on September 30th, 2012 at 6:12 pm

    @WCKitty:
    I stopped watching when he was stealing drugs, it was disgusting to watch him lie and then be an arrogant ass, when HE was the problem.

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  494. Up the Coast said on September 30th, 2012 at 6:12 pm

    @WCKitty:
    That’s a great idea for ALL types of predators :shock:

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  495. Up the Coast said on September 30th, 2012 at 6:14 pm

    Good match! Europe won…the US choked.

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  496. Tetta said on September 30th, 2012 at 6:27 pm

    @Up the Coast:

    The US players look “empty”. I´m so sad US didn´t won :lol:
    My husband sends his greetings to you and your husband wishing US Good Luck next year !

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  497. Up the Coast said on September 30th, 2012 at 6:38 pm

    @Tetta:
    Thank you….Enjoy holding the Ryder Cup for now ;) We’ll get it next time :) (2 yrs, I think).

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  498. Tetta said on September 30th, 2012 at 6:56 pm

    @Up the Coast:

    Next time we will hold our thumbs for both US and Europe ! ;)

    The clock is 01.00 AM in Sweden so I say Good Night to all of you !

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  499. ream said on September 30th, 2012 at 6:56 pm

    @Up the Coast:
    i have been released at all hours. i think it depends on hospital, dr, illness or when u can be picked up.
    my daughter was released at 1 am lol.

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  500. Up the Coast said on September 30th, 2012 at 7:00 pm

    @Tetta:
    Good Night Tetta….sweet dreams!

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  501. ream said on September 30th, 2012 at 7:06 pm

    @Tetta:
    good night tetta. finally read to u lol sleep well

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  502. Siska said on September 30th, 2012 at 8:41 pm

    @guest 3:so you mention that whatever Jen did was to overshadow brad or Angie event? It might be but it’s not the truth,because as you saying we never knew. And if you insist on saying its true ,you have to apply the same thing to brangie also. Because there are some Jen event happen and brangie did some appearance without any major work for promotion. How about just agree they all using the same tactic. It’s their job to create public interest to promote their work,remember when brad promoting money ball and had to mention about his own past marriage made him bored? and after it mention how dear friend and funny Jen was?
    And for mention why Jen still not doing what she saying about marriage or kids,she is engaged now,so she is on the right track. Remember your idol also change their tune about marriage after for years saying will not doing it until all people can be married. People can change their tune. Btw we also can accuse brad trying to steal Jen thunder by changing his tune after witness how serious jusjen is,so it’s apply both way.
    And Angie on record being well known on “changing her mind ” a lot ,like not involving with married man,dislike jeans ( when in past its shown she wore a lot of jeans),not wanting biological kids,etc.
    So people can change their mind,it’s normal.
    Anyway as Kate indicate,both fans guilty of overboard protected with their idol and trash their idol haters/ enemy.
    I just want to point out that if you apply one theory to Jen,you also have to be open mind on applying it to your idol.

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  503. Siska said on September 30th, 2012 at 8:53 pm

    On the different subject.
    Btw I just read a book about life from a wise man called ajahn brahm,one quote he said stick to me,the simple motto of life” good,bad,who knows?” it’s mean when we look at life,it’s happen for a reason,either it’s good or bad,it’s happen because it’s suppose to. So we should not stress about bad stuff or over joy about good stuff,life happen. And we should let it go all the anger or disappointed in life,it’s waste our life.
    I hope can do that.
    And he also mention about helping each other and work together as a team will benefit everyone, so they might should start applying it as a foundation to built a great notion,lets ask what can we do together to benefit the whole nation,not just benefit “me”.

    Anyway..this maybe sort of applied by the brangiston,they might be behind the scenes actually helping each other by played along with this so called feud.

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  504. Siska said on September 30th, 2012 at 9:08 pm

    For guest3, do you knew that only Jennifer aniston has a neutron being name after her? It’s created from a sciencetific experiment. Just google it. They did an experiment on people brain to see which part of our neutron react to certain image,and when they flashed couple of image including A lister Jrobert,it’s not react,but when Jen aniston picture being showing its flashed and it’s being name after her.
    So..you saying about Jen isn’t A lister or famous enough..he,,he..even science could tell you it isn’t true.

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  505. Up the Coast said on September 30th, 2012 at 10:40 pm

    @Siska:
    You are right! http://www.npr.org/blogs/krulwich/2012/03/30/149685880/neuroscientists-battle-furiously-over-jennifer-aniston
    Thanks for sharing that Siska :)

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  506. P. Gold said on September 30th, 2012 at 11:32 pm

    @Siska:

    +10000000000000. you say it so much better than.

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  507. P. Gold said on September 30th, 2012 at 11:35 pm

    @Kate:

    Make me wanna laugh whenever I see you call payal as PayPal.

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  508. fluffy said on September 30th, 2012 at 11:40 pm

    Siska

    Could not agree with you more!
    This is why I Love Jen!

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  509. Guest2 said on September 30th, 2012 at 11:45 pm

    @Siska:
    @Up the Coast:
    I remember reading that a while back but forgot about it. Thanks for the reminder and for finding the article. I expect you will get a totally illogical rebuttal.

    Good night all.

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  510. Up the Coast said on September 30th, 2012 at 11:54 pm

    @Guest2:
    Good night

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  511. Up the Coast said on October 1st, 2012 at 3:25 pm

    Good Afternoon :) Where is everybody?

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  512. Dream said on October 1st, 2012 at 3:40 pm

    @P. Gold:
    lol auto correct is the devil.

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  513. Tetta said on October 1st, 2012 at 4:42 pm

    @Up the Coast:

    We have been through this clue some times by now so I guess many of us feel some sort of resignation. And it´s hard to keep a fun or interesting “conversation” going when we are interrupted by a guest who seems to be three years old.
    Besides that I think most of us believe in Jennifer and Justin and that Brad is stuck with Angelina. I also think we all believe at least Angelina are up to some criminal stuff, perhaps Brad too. And we don´t want to have a guessing game about what Brad and Jennifer still have together and about frozen embryos.

    Before we go further I think we need some answers. As Kate said, there is a worldwide economic crisis and it´s a war in the Middle East. How big are the secrets the former triangle had and parts of the triangle perhaps still has as they can´t be revealed by now. And if Ian is writing another book about Brangelina he is in a hurry since even the magazines have lost their interest in the couple.

    Ian, pleas come here and give us some answers ! Then all of us will find interest in IUC again and we will continue to write comments in this blog. It´s a win – win situation.

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  514. Patty Anne said on October 1st, 2012 at 5:01 pm

    Yes~! IAN…please show your loyal posters that you do indeed appreciate them. Would you post with us to get us on the right track so we can finish this story/riddle once and for all? I think most of us, probably same with you by now, are just sick and tired of these rapidly aging and degenerating people and would like an “end” to the story . We know he’s been “cheating” on Angie all along as was made evident at the awards for IB when the entire cast was protecting Diane K. from his unwanted advances while the Ho was shooting arrows with her eyes. Many other blogs are coming right out with it, why not you? Asking candidly and respectfully.

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  515. WCKitty said on October 1st, 2012 at 5:10 pm

    @Patty Anne:
    +1
    But I thought that fidelity wasn’t important to a relationship? :P

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  516. Patty Anne said on October 1st, 2012 at 5:32 pm

    LOL, Angie seems to speak for effect not for truth many times. I”ll never forget the interview where she was asked what she wanted most in life. Now I’m sure the interviewer expected normal things from a mom such as ….healthy and happy children, to be loved, etc…….but Angie replied, “To hold on to all I now have”…yep. All about her. @WCKitty:

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  517. Up the Coast said on October 1st, 2012 at 6:18 pm

    @WCKitty:
    That was just ole Ange covering her bases.

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  518. Up the Coast said on October 1st, 2012 at 6:18 pm

    @Patty Anne:
    +2

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  519. WCKitty said on October 1st, 2012 at 6:28 pm

    @Up the Coast:
    Yea, she is just one of those people that say one thing but do another. She was probably meaning that “her being faithful wasn’t important to the marriage”, but Brad being unfaithful to her was another story.

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  520. Up the Coast said on October 1st, 2012 at 6:43 pm

    @WCKitty:
    Yes, just like that :) It appears that Arnold has that same rule for his relationship.

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  521. WCKitty said on October 1st, 2012 at 7:09 pm

    @Up the Coast:
    Arnold is a disgusting pig IMO. I went to Amazon and the book has been reviewed by at least nine people. The book came out today so the five-star reviews must be by paid-to-read the book reviewers. Some have made comments to the one-star reviewers that they must not have read the book because they are upset with his adultery etc.. Anyway the book is being sold at a discount. :lol: IMO, I think he is getting even with Maria for divorcing him. Sociopath’s love to get even when you cross them. I saw a headline somewhere this week that he wants her to take him back. After what he has done lately, that will probably happen when hell freezes over. He has no respect for her or his children. He has no remorse for his actions and as long as Arnie gets what he wants things are just fine no matter who gets hurt. :twisted:

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  522. Up the Coast said on October 1st, 2012 at 7:45 pm

    @WCKitty:
    I agree with you, completely! Why would anyone want to read that shit? And there’s nothing he can say to justify his actions, so he should just STFU.

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  523. WCKitty said on October 1st, 2012 at 8:26 pm

    It looks like the clothing style for this year includes the late 1960’s and early 1970’s from what I see in the L.L. Bean catalog. There is a wool jumper and turtleneck sweater and plaid wool skirts for women that are similar to what many of us girls wore while I was in elementary school. The only thing missing is the knee-high socks and saddle shoes. Somehow I don’t think I can pull this look off anymore. :lol: Corduroy pants have also made a comeback.

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  524. WCKitty said on October 1st, 2012 at 8:27 pm

    @WCKitty:
    As you can see from my post above, we need help with the clues or some us (me) will go completely off-track. :lol:

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  525. guest3 said on October 1st, 2012 at 9:20 pm

    @pattyanne
    I have never referred to JA other than her birth name or initials on this site. But you have continuously refer to Angie as a Ho, Skank or whatever degrading name. I just wonder if your neighbors knew that you use those words to refer to a mother of six ( all under the age of 12 years and some as young as 4 ) how they would feel about you.. Considering you have never met the person.. Damn, I would hate to be the neighbor and you knew me.

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  526. Up the Coast said on October 1st, 2012 at 9:37 pm

    @WCKitty:
    I went to the Camarillo Outlets today and noticed the same thing! And I remember having wearing jumpers w/blouses or turtlenecks, with matching tights and clogs :shock: Now, they are wearing knee high boots…I like the look, but it’s just not that cold here in SoCal.

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  527. Up the Coast said on October 1st, 2012 at 9:43 pm

    @guest3:
    And vice versa, I’m sure. Look, we all get it, YOU idolize AJ…..good for you. We don’t understand it, but we get it. Not everyone looks up to whores and junkies tho, so quit trying to drag this out, you aren’t going to change anyone’s mind around here.

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  528. P. Gold said on October 1st, 2012 at 10:04 pm

    @guest3:

    Just because she gave birth to 1 and bought/collected another 5 does not make her a good mother. A Ho is a Ho and she has never changed. Remember the Leggate? I’m sure if I’m doing something bad, my friends would also be calling me names behind my back. And by the way, we dont need to have met her ( I doubt we would want to meet someone who looks and behaves like Medusa ), she’s made sure the whole world knows her, from her drugs to her sex stuff.

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  529. WCKitty said on October 1st, 2012 at 10:35 pm

    @guest3:
    Oh please. I’ve known women who are considered upstanding members of a community who have no problem calling a woman a slu* or a ho behind her back even if she is a mother. Just because a woman (man) is married and/or a mother (father) doesn’t mean that they can do whatever they please and not be called a name. Look above. I don’t know Arnold, but he is a father and I called him a name because he put his behavior out there and so has Angie. Both of these people have rubbed their affairs into the spouses face and therefore showed no remorse, which equates to no conscience or empathy. LeAnn R. is another one who just doesn’t get it.

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  530. WCKitty said on October 1st, 2012 at 10:38 pm

    @Up the Coast:
    I used to wear tights also. It is usually warmer down there in your area, but I’ve experienced it when it has been very cold too (okay it’s unusual). :P

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  531. Up the Coast said on October 1st, 2012 at 10:46 pm

    @WCKitty:
    I lived in the Carson Valley for about 3 yrs (when my kids were little) and it snowed there…I wore boots then, and long underwear :shock:

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  532. Guest2 said on October 1st, 2012 at 10:46 pm

    Brad’s new movie poster plagiarized angie’s movie poster. I wonder if she’ll sue. Does anyone know when those photos of pitt and clinton were taken? Clinton’s expressions are hilarious.

    http://www.femalefirst.co.uk/board/viewtopic.php?f=40&t=330373

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  533. Up the Coast said on October 1st, 2012 at 10:49 pm

    Before joLIE had children, she had numerous affairs with married men and never gave a shit about THEIR children! All she cared about was getting their daddies into bed…that’s why people consider her a whore.

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  534. Up the Coast said on October 1st, 2012 at 10:52 pm

    @Guest2:
    And SHE plagiarized Braddock’s book cover. Maybe she thinks using again will make it HERS. Wow, Clinton looks really bored :lol: Is he trying to keep his nose turned away from Pitt? :lol:

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  535. Up the Coast said on October 1st, 2012 at 10:57 pm

    @Up the Coast:
    …using it again will make it hers.

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  536. Up the Coast said on October 1st, 2012 at 10:58 pm

    http://www.thesoulshattering.net/

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  537. Guest2 said on October 1st, 2012 at 11:03 pm

    @Up the Coast:
    :lol: That’s what it looks like he’s doing. He’s not even trying to be polite or discreet. Poor brad is clueless.

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  538. WR said on October 2nd, 2012 at 3:04 am

    @Guest2:
    JMO!
    BP looks like a woman in drag; i. e. a lesbian wearing a man face!
    No wonder Clinton is bored by his presence. Clinton is the genuine deal. He’s working his tail off to right this country of ours. His is not a make believe world. And to have this “phony” cozying up to him as if they are equals is cause for a wtf expression. Clinton could well be thinking, “This guy is a legend in his own mind!”

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  539. WR said on October 2nd, 2012 at 3:18 am

    OT. Saw on other sites the topic of Tom Cruise mulling the end of his Scientology participation. Then, the comments touching on all the reasons why he would, should or could thing about leaving. Now that was a thread that moved. But it became boring after a bit. Just like Brangelina, to me. Well, they’re no longer the young ones raising hell. Brad is approaching 50, just like the one he reminds me of: TC.
    One of the more interesting comments made about TC is the question of how he’d get along without Cabbage, as they called David Miscavige. They speculated that Tommy would be lonely, and partly because the women now know about his craziness. Anyway, all sort of scenarios were posited. Very, very interesting, to me…for a bit!

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  540. WR said on October 2nd, 2012 at 3:20 am

    Check you tomorrow, then!

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  541. Guest2 said on October 2nd, 2012 at 7:10 am

    @WR:
    :lol: Maybe bp was trying to put the moves on clinton. As for TC, he seems to have some kind of weird codependent relationship with DM and he may be afraid to leave the cult for fear of his audit tapes being leaked. I read somewhere that former scientologists say that Miscavige mocks Tom behind his back and plays his audit tapes for others to hear but Tom refuses to believe it. I used to like him as an actor but I’m getting sick of him too. It’s just a matter of time before they become irrelevant and the younger ones take their place.

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  542. x said on October 2nd, 2012 at 9:19 am

    A Convenient Recall. Bah!! Too funny. Talk about putting lipstick on a pig. Or rather, a pig putting lipstick on a pig. This man is a misogynist whose treatment and behaviors towards women during his film career are legendary. Affairs are one thing, unwanted groping and inappropriate sexual comments are another.

    No way this man will be President.

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  543. janindisguise said on October 2nd, 2012 at 9:54 am

    Well speaking of Ah=nold – ashamed to say I watched Terminator last night because

    a. couldn’t find anything else and
    b. thought Michael Biehn was in it.

    Anyway, it was stupid IMO and gave up on it. I can handle action movies but this was soooo boring to me.

    Have a day of Peace.

    JinD

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  544. WCKitty said on October 2nd, 2012 at 11:42 am

    @Guest2:
    Clinton looks like he is totally bored with the people around him, including Brad who looks like he wishes Clinton would pay attention to him. Clinton probably wishes he was almost anywhere else, but there.

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  545. rushdog said on October 2nd, 2012 at 1:00 pm

    @Guest2:
    Pics of BP and President Clinton are from the Clinton Global Initiative in September ‘09 about one month after IB premiered in the US, just saying. Assume he was there for MIR and I think it was the last day of a four day conference which could have something to do with Clinton’s expression. Or maybe not, lol. President BC is an intellect and BP…well he’s a wanna be.

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  546. Guest2 said on October 2nd, 2012 at 1:28 pm

    @rushdog:
    Thanks, I’ll try to find some video of that tonight to see what’s boring BC besides BP.

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  547. WCKitty said on October 2nd, 2012 at 1:29 pm

    In response to Ian’s article about Arnie’s book: Arnie may think that getting the discussion of his affairs and secrets he kept from Maria out in the open will help him in his bid for president, but I don’t think so. His ego must be really huge to think that voters like him so much that we’ll change the Constitution in order to elect him of all people. I understand that the vast majority of politicians are probably sociopaths, but this guy is over-the-top. His tell-all is seen as hurtful towards Maria and his children, including Joseph. It should be kept as a private family matter in order for his family to begin to heal and move on. I also think that it is a way to get even with Maria for divorcing him. His being married to Maria would have helped him be elected to office and she has hurt his chances. So whether-or-not the U.S. Constitution is amended, I’d never vote for Arnie to be President.

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  548. Tetta said on October 2nd, 2012 at 1:48 pm

    The pictures of Brad and Clinton are funny …. or sad. I don´t know if I want to to laugh or cry. But if I where Brad and saw these photos I would end The Mir project. Everyone seems uninterested in it, including Brad.

    And what to say about Arnold as president 2016 ? It must be a joke. Mustn´t the President of US be born in the US ? To me Arnold S isn´t even a B-list actor. He is on a still lower list. If I insult anyone with my words, please forgive me. But as a citizen of the world I get upset. US has a too big influence on the rest of the world to have Arnold Schwartzenegger as a trusted president.

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  549. WCKitty said on October 2nd, 2012 at 2:05 pm

    @Tetta:
    Hi Tetta! Yes, you must be a U.S. born citizen, but Arnold and his backers want to change the Constitution to allow non-U.S. born citizens to become President. :(

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  550. Guest2 said on October 2nd, 2012 at 3:14 pm

    @Tetta:
    @WCKitty:
    If they change the laws about being US born to be president and Americans vote that man into office then I shall have to consider moving to Canada. If they’ll take me.

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  551. WCKitty said on October 2nd, 2012 at 3:22 pm

    @Guest2:
    It would be very scary, not only because of who he is, but then think of the other people who would then be eligible…like me!!! :lol: Just kidding, that is one job that I’d never want. Anyway, I’d have to think about going back to Canada or heading overseas, preferably someplace that is warm most of the year. I don’t think that Americans would allow this to happen, do you? 8O

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  552. Guest2 said on October 2nd, 2012 at 3:45 pm

    @WCKitty:
    I certainly hope not but if the economy tanks badly enough and our money becomes worthless and he’s perceived as some kind of savior who knows what could happen. That’s usually how sociopaths and megalomaniacs get into power and I believe he’s both. :(

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  553. WR said on October 2nd, 2012 at 4:00 pm

    Arnold S. is, like the late Ronald Reagan was, a forgettable actor. But he can use his actors image to win over the powers that be. Right now, he’s doing some re-inventing of his image, for a white house run, it seems. Probably hoping the “birthers”, (those who claim Obama wasn’t born in the USA) will pave the way for his quest. Being a republican, like Reagan, and an actor like Reagan, he would act the part to a star-struck electorate, like Reagan did.
    Reagan had the good fortune to watch the end of the Cold War during his “reign”. His party gave him all the credit. No credit to the Almighty, and the Catholics all over the world who had been praying all along, (as instructed by The Blessed Virgin, at Fatima, Portugal), to God for victory over communism.
    I should say here, that some holy souls who claim to have visions of Mary, reported that she told them communism isn’t completely over and done.
    Back to Arnold: The democrats need to dig in if they want to weaken his hold over the starry-eyed voters. They should discuss it in private with no reporters to observe them. Very hard to do in these times; but it can be done. They should KNOW their enemy. They should REMEMBER the passion and determination of a poor boy from Austria, who used his bare talents to conquer the world of bodybuilding, the world of cinema, and even the political world when he won the governorship of California. That’s a formidable opponent to bring down!
    JMO!

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  554. Up the Coast said on October 2nd, 2012 at 5:40 pm

    Psychopaths rule the world……I don’t care which side of the aisle they are on, cuz it doesn’t matter.

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  555. Patty Anne said on October 2nd, 2012 at 6:32 pm

    I was first alarmed at the direction our government was going when Obama enacted his Obamacare which mandated every citizen had to buy health insurance or the IRS would penalize them on their Federal Income Tax with a $600+ fee. To me that went against the United States Constitution, but somehow Obama got the U.S.Supreme Court to say it is a “TAX” and legal. Does this then mean that anyone in power can do the same? Scarey times in the US. Add to that Obama, Rice – Our UN Ambassador, and H. Clinton – Our Sec. of State all lied to the American public about the attack on our embassy in Benghazi saying it was an out of control mob incited by a 14 min. video that had been on YouTube for months when they were informed within 24 hours of the attack that it was a planned terrorist attack to co-incide with 9/11. Scary times we live in people.

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  556. Up the Coast said on October 2nd, 2012 at 7:55 pm

    @Patty Anne:
    Ambassador Stevens asked for more security and was turned down by the Obama admin and Hillary :evil: That pisses me off to the point I think it might be an impeachable offense! Why does Valerie Jarrett have a secret service detail on her ass, but Amb. Stevens was left out to dry like that? On 911, of all days! Serious incompetence, imo.

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  557. Patty Anne said on October 2nd, 2012 at 8:48 pm

    IAN, I’ve always wondered about what really happened between Nicole and Tom…who cheated first?…also the “real” story of Nicole’s and Keith’s marriage….Beyonce’ and JayZ and “their” baby….Gwyneth Paltrow and Chris Martin’s marriage….real? or fake?…..Did Ryan Reynolds really cheat on Scarlett with Blake Lively while filming Green Lantern?….Clooney, bi? or gay?

    Lots of interesting subjects besides Brangie to discuss….and Big Guy, enquiring minds would like to know. Thanks!!

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  558. Patty Anne said on October 2nd, 2012 at 8:50 pm

    Well Bill Clinton was impeached for lying and attempting to get Congress to cover his butt, so what’s the difference between one President’s lies (BC- No one died), and another’s (Obama – FOUR Americans dead). Totally being facetious with that question. We all know the answer don’t we?@Up the Coast:

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  559. Guest2 said on October 2nd, 2012 at 9:36 pm

    You ladies are really informed. I hate to admit it but I had no idea who Valeria Jarrett is so had to google. Very interesting article below.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2012/09/02/us/politics/valerie-jarrett-is-the-other-power-in-the-west-wing.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0

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  560. Up the Coast said on October 3rd, 2012 at 12:29 am

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eGDVzJNMKs8&feature=player_embedded#!

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  561. WR said on October 3rd, 2012 at 4:25 am

    @Guest2:
    @ 7:10 am, October 2nd.
    Making the moves on him? Exactly, now that you mentioned it!
    Clinton likes them younger, however; and female, for real!

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  562. Tetta said on October 3rd, 2012 at 9:26 am

    @Patty Anne:

    Ian, I agree with Patty Anne. But please, first of all, give us some words what you really meant with your clues. Just briefly as I understand you have other things on your mind than the triangle. I also understand the legal aspects and that you have to draw a line for what you write. If you give us that, I think many of us are ready for other items, just as Patty Anne said.

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  563. WCKitty said on October 3rd, 2012 at 3:44 pm

    It’s so quiet around here :?

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  564. Up the Coast said on October 3rd, 2012 at 5:25 pm

    @WCKitty:
    It is….zzzzzz.

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  565. Guest1 said on October 3rd, 2012 at 6:14 pm

    Have you seen this article about Todd Akin? Personally I respect everyones view on abortion, as long as they respect others views. I also believe women should have the right to choose, regardless if I am pro or anti abortion.

    http://celebzter.com/new-footage-emerges-of-todd-akin-claiming-that-abortions-are-carried-out-on-women-who-are-not-actually-pregnant/

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  566. Patty Anne said on October 3rd, 2012 at 6:24 pm

    Moving on down the chart and the Jennifer Lawrence horror House at the End of the Street fell two spots from its third-placed debut last weekend, while Brad Pitt mob thriller Killing Them Softly went one better, falling four places to sixth in its second week of release.

    http://www.flickeringmyth.com/2012/10/l … k-box.html

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  567. janindisguise said on October 3rd, 2012 at 6:43 pm

    Was thinking about BP’s zombie movie. What happened to that? Nothing but a guns thing? Those zombie figures about the film looked like they were traveling fast and furious, didn’t they. Fast zombies. :-)

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  568. Guest2 said on October 3rd, 2012 at 7:11 pm

    @Guest1:
    He says they’re performing abortions on women who aren’t really pregnant. Can anyone be that stupid?

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  569. WCKitty said on October 3rd, 2012 at 7:37 pm

    @Guest1:
    @Guest2:
    This is not a man women should want making reproductive decisions for them.

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  570. Guest1 said on October 3rd, 2012 at 7:43 pm

    @Guest2:

    That was back in 2008. I can’t believe he is still in politics.

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  571. Guest2 said on October 3rd, 2012 at 8:13 pm

    Did you see where jen and angie got together for lunch and buried the hatchet?

    http://celebzter.com/exclusive-photos-jennifer-aniston-and-angelina-jolie-finally-bury-the-hatchet/

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  572. Guest2 said on October 3rd, 2012 at 8:15 pm

    @janindisguise:
    I was wondering about that movie too. We haven’t seen brad in quite a while. I wonder if he’s busy filming the reshoots with the director he’s not talking to.

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  573. Guest1 said on October 3rd, 2012 at 9:06 pm

    @Guest2:
    Whose back did it end up in?

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  574. Up the Coast said on October 3rd, 2012 at 9:10 pm

    @Guest1:
    Girl, you are quick tonight :) haha.

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  575. Up the Coast said on October 3rd, 2012 at 9:10 pm

    Is anyone watching the debate?

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  576. Guest2 said on October 3rd, 2012 at 9:35 pm

    @Up the Coast:
    yes

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  577. Guest2 said on October 3rd, 2012 at 9:37 pm

    @Up the Coast:
    +1
    @Guest1:
    Did you see the look on fake angie’s face when she was looking at fake jen?

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  578. Up the Coast said on October 3rd, 2012 at 9:43 pm

    @Guest2:
    I think Romney is doing a great job. Now Obama is talking about his grandmother, the typical white woman.

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  579. Patty Anne said on October 3rd, 2012 at 9:58 pm

    Romney is doing a great job I think. Obama is still playing as if he’s speaking to a bunch of good-ole-boys who “have his back” as all his Twitter adverts are begging for.@Up the Coast:

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  580. Guest2 said on October 3rd, 2012 at 10:05 pm

    @Up the Coast:
    Romney is a very smart man and he’s doing better than I thought he would but Obama’s a slicker politician. I wish the moderator would stop cutting them off and let them finish an answer.

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  581. Up the Coast said on October 3rd, 2012 at 10:30 pm

    Obama thinks he saved the auto industry :( But what about all those family owned dealerships that were forced to shut down? It’s hard to watch him without the rose colored glasses.

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  582. Up the Coast said on October 3rd, 2012 at 10:32 pm

    @Patty Anne:
    @Guest2:
    I agree..

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  583. Guest2 said on October 3rd, 2012 at 10:45 pm

    I can’t stand diane sawyer and her smug, condescending attitude. Sorry, had to vent.

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  584. Up the Coast said on October 3rd, 2012 at 10:55 pm

    @Guest2:
    99.9% of the MSM act like that, I can’t stand it either. All she does is READ the news that someone else wrote for her, and take home a big ass paycheck, so she should get over herself ;) I’m afraid that Obama has had his butt kissed for so long, he really doesn’t think he has to DO anything….he seems really out of touch.

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  585. Guest2 said on October 3rd, 2012 at 11:31 pm

    @Up the Coast:
    I think you’re right about Obama. He seemed caught off guard that Romney was a skilled debater. Valerie didn’t prepare him well (is that her name?). Michelle should kick her butt.

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  586. Guest2 said on October 3rd, 2012 at 11:40 pm

    WTF kind of Tonto is this? Depp can’t act anymore without painting up his face?

    http://www.celebitchy.com/255284/the_lone_ranger_trailer_debuts_um_is_anyone_else_kind_of_offended/

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  587. Up the Coast said on October 3rd, 2012 at 11:42 pm

    @Guest2:
    Yes, that’s her name ;) She’s probably the person who is really running the country on a daily basis, since Obama is a no-show for about 60% of his daily briefings.
    “No one outside Michelle has the access or power over Obama’s decision-making like Jarrett does. Here’s an odd little fact that gives some insight into what kind of president Obama is: Michelle, Michelle’s mother, and Valerie, and only a few others in Washington, are allowed to call Barack by his first name. After work, Jarrett joins Obama at night in the Family Quarters, where she dines often with the First Family. She goes on vacation with them.” http://www.americanthinker.com/2012/08/obamas_strange_dependence_on_valerie_jarrett.html#ixzz28IYNTdA7

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  588. Up the Coast said on October 3rd, 2012 at 11:47 pm

    @Guest2:
    I think the last movie I saw him in, where he didn’t scream like in Rango….was Public Enemies.

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  589. dream said on October 4th, 2012 at 1:13 am

    I have come to the conclusion Jd is the world’s worst mime. @Guest2:

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  590. Up the Coast said on October 4th, 2012 at 11:54 am

    I didn’t realize, until last night, that the govt has been funding PBS! Is that why Obama kept looking at Jim Lehrer for support?

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  591. Up the Coast said on October 4th, 2012 at 1:54 pm

    @WCKitty:
    :cry: Is nothing sacred anymore?

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  592. janindisguise said on October 4th, 2012 at 1:58 pm

    @Up the Coast:
    Isn’t that special UTC? – the funding of PBS, that is. Yeppers – just gotta love it.

    These things are more important (tv watching), clearly, than things like taking care of our elders, i.e. daycare centers for seniors, like mom, are now charging these people on medicare for their attendance there. Mom’s down to 2 days per week. Long live the 3rd reich – and you know I am not being a smart__a___. Someone’s gotten the text from the 3rd reich. It’s the boiling frog syndrome – doing it slowly so no one will notice you know? We are not stupid little sheeple.

    I’m over it. I’m not looking two these 2 puppets for anything. I have a God and it’s not either of them.

    JinD

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  593. janindisguise said on October 4th, 2012 at 2:05 pm

    BBL.

    Have a splendid day.

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  594. Up the Coast said on October 4th, 2012 at 2:20 pm

    @janindisguise:
    I can’t believe that Obama supporters (AND Obama himself) are now coming back and saying that Romney wants the death of Big Bird :shock: Seriously! THAT’S what they got from that?????????????? No wonder our society is so effed up. Do they really not understand that public tv is supposed to be funded by the public, so that it isn’t beholding to anyone’s agenda? Especially NOT the govt’s????? I thought people were waking up to this shit, but now I’m just not sure :cry:

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  595. Up the Coast said on October 4th, 2012 at 2:21 pm

    @janindisguise:
    You too! xxx

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  596. Up the Coast said on October 4th, 2012 at 3:05 pm

    For the last two days, our skies in SoCal have been covered with chemtrails…even at night! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pzMLDw_ecqo&feature=player_embedded#!

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  597. janindisguise said on October 4th, 2012 at 4:14 pm

    @janindisguise:
    earlier I said “not looking to these ‘two’ puppets”. Duh. I know better than that. Perhaps I should think about returning to work. Heh. Not.

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  598. janindisguise said on October 4th, 2012 at 4:14 pm

    @janindisguise:
    Sh__t! I still didn’t get that right. two=number. Forget it. Ha.

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  599. x said on October 4th, 2012 at 4:16 pm

    Just watched your segment on ETalk Ian. Good going.

    Arnold said Maria has been his only true love. I totally disagree. The only true real love of Arnold’s life has been Arnold. Any man who has sex with multiple partners while married with a family, is clearly concerned with his own needs more than anything.

    No, Arnold’s one true love is his ego because he’s been focused on feeding that first above anything. Suchh a pig.

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  600. janindisguise said on October 4th, 2012 at 4:24 pm

    @x:
    I agree with you about Ah-nauld. He said once his father was a policeman in Germany. Let’s see now, according to Ah-nauld’s age, it is apparent that his father could have been a “bad” policeman – has something to do with SS. You reckon?

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  601. Up the Coast said on October 4th, 2012 at 4:49 pm

    @x:
    +1

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  602. Liz E. said on October 4th, 2012 at 8:03 pm

    PBS – the PUBLIC Broadcasting Service. Like the Public Schools, the Public Library, the Public Park.

    That is, they are not privately owned or commerical ventures. So yes they get public funding. THAT is what is supposed to keep them a free and open exchange and forum. PBS historically shows content that is not commercially viable. It is also offers free cultural and educational content for its viewers thereby hopefully expanding culture and education to those who cannot afford it.

    Obviously as public funding was diminished (both for political and economic reasons) PBS had to increasingly rely on private and corporate funding. even on commercial enterprise. I fully support funding the arts and education in this way. It’s really a tiny fraction of the budget. We all know this don’t we.

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  603. Up the Coast said on October 4th, 2012 at 8:57 pm

    Public Broadcasting Act of 1967 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_Broadcasting_Act_of_1967

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  604. guest3 said on October 4th, 2012 at 9:03 pm

    Please tell me that there aren’t people on this site that didn’t know what PBS stands for and just learning for the first time from a 2012 debate… Even my 5th grader knew this.

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  605. guest3 said on October 4th, 2012 at 9:09 pm

    I’m sorry I forgot to add and how it’s being funded.. Even my 5th grader knew this. I’m really slumming commenting on this site.

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  606. guest 3 said on October 4th, 2012 at 9:16 pm

    Also, I’m thrilled that my 8-10 comments in 3 weeks helped you achieved your comment goals. I haven’t kept count but if you say I’m helping. More power to me.

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  607. Guest2 said on October 4th, 2012 at 9:22 pm

    I have to agree with everything LizE said about PBS.

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  608. WCKitty said on October 4th, 2012 at 9:51 pm

    @Guest2:
    I’ve been quiet today because I have been doing a lot of reading from posters on different websites. I have always been scared about the future of this wonderful country and after reading posters comments, I have to say I am even more afraid. Not just on the PBS comments, but other issues as well.

    I love PBS and my children watched many shows from that station, especially when I got so sick of Comcast that I pulled the plug. A pair of rabbit ears and I was saved because my children could watch all their favorite shows with the exception of Nickelodeon. I once again have cable, but I am still enjoying Downton Abbey and other great programs. At least some of the shows would probably continue, but rural residents may be left out. From what I also read, the money is not directly given to PBS.

    Anyway, I never thought I’d say it, but I also agree with Liz E.

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  609. Guest2 said on October 4th, 2012 at 11:28 pm

    @WCKitty:
    Did you see that blind item about a top politician whose wife and mother in law are hoping he loses the election so they can move to a big house they’ve picked out in a beautiful location? The mil doesn’t like him and calls him a punk ass but doesn’t mind him supporting her. The popular guess, of course, is Obama. It might explain his performance in last night’s debate. If true, that poor man has way too many overbearing women around him.

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  610. janindisguise said on October 4th, 2012 at 11:43 pm

    @Guest2:
    I did read recently (don’t remember where) that the O family is planning a luxurious Hawaiian home for when they get out office and it left that time period open – made ot sound like it could be after 2016, or… but it did just come right and say they ARE planning for it some time.

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  611. janindisguise said on October 5th, 2012 at 12:23 am

    And the pres. last night did, to me, act kind of like he is trying to lose out on purpose and hit the road. It’s really not very fancy to live at the White House me would think. Hawaii would be much better and more beautiful living. Of course, I’ve wondered more than once if these elections are truly elections or selections. And I’ve often toyed with the thought of not wasting my time and gas to travel to the voting precinct. Sometimes I do and sometimes I don’t.

    As far as this election (after having witnessed some just like it) is concerned, there is no one I see that is worthy of my vote actually. My gut tells me that both of these dudes have the same long range goal in the end (global takeover – as in New World Order), but they are simply taking different avenues to that end. It’s not gonna be a pretty sight there at the end either. So I sit and watch this stuff and know, just know, these guys are not and cannot be my God. God cares about us – these “things” (I will call them) do not.

    If these were really issues We the People are concerned about, right after jobs and healthcare should be a gigantic number 3 discussing what’s to be done about the trampling of our liberty, privacy, rights, the consitution with regarding our lack of privacy – our homes, our schools, what our kids eat. Most families cannot afford to feed their kids good leafy vegetables and other healthy foods, but would if they could. I very much come against such intrusions at all. This is gradually being done to see what the people’s response is to these new ideas (of intrusion). The Mayor of NY is trying out banning of large soda drinks. I know colas and the like are unhealthy (and poisonous) but I doubt if that is old Bloomberg’s concern. I believe that was a test to watch and see how the population “obeyed”. A test.

    The politicians always say that “it’s for your own good”. Nope – that’s not why. It’s always for another reason – it’s not because it’s for your own good. They don’t care. They are about their “plan” benefiting no one but the grand order of the New World Order planned by secret societies that we have all heard of involving the “elites”.

    Cameras everywhere – have done away with most local cops and replaced them with cameras, take a picture of the car who allegedly ran a light or some other infraction, send it to the “defendant” in the mail along with their fine, or go to court. I got one once for not having enough change for a road exit with no attendant there, got a ticket in mail, mailed it off, got another identical ticket for the same offense and paid that too (it was a small amount). All screwed up procedure.

    Towers all over the place that I once thought were cell towers – mais no! These are NOT cell towers near our homes. They are more spying equipment. The idea that someone can simply look inside our homes at will is nauseating.

    We now have TSA agents at airports that will soon, if not already, be on our highways. The idea is bad enough. The fact that perverts and ex-priests accused of sexual crimes upon children is a TSA agent is more than I can bear. People need to go back and find out who the REAL terrorists are from 12 years ago. And now they have the audacity to go after innocent Americans, usually Christians or Jews.

    What I would like to know is why no one threw those questions out for consideration for discussion. Shouldn’t be any problem if there is no problem. Let’s get that shiz out in the open.

    Gonna start trying to read our mind? Ha. For me, I know how to empty my mind. I’ve practiced for years. It’s called de-stressing.

    I hope it doesn’t get that far. I really pray that it doesn’t but these are the things that I am convinced of in my belly/gut and in my heart. I just keep looking to God to keep me at Peace. And He can and He does. And that has been how my faith has been built – trusting Him, not worrying then and see what God does about the situation.

    No proofreading this late (or any other time really).

    Sweet sleep I pray for you all (andme.)

    J in D

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  612. Guest2 said on October 5th, 2012 at 12:27 am

    @guest3:
    Dear, you should never lower yourself to spend time in the slums. Surely you can find a more highbrow site to express your hatred of jennifer aniston.

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  613. WR said on October 5th, 2012 at 3:24 am

    Yes, Obama did seem to have an air of defeat. His supporters were aghast at his sophomoric performance!
    To me, he did look a bit tired. I thought Bill Clinton would have prepared him, since he’s been helping Obama, lately.
    Someone pointed out that he needs to be aware of what is at stake, after all, he was appointed his party’s candidate; and he should respect his party enough to do his utmost best. If he felt too whipped by the women in his life, he should have declined the nomination at his party’s convention. Hillary Clinton would have been a strong replacement leader if he had. And also, remember the president soon may have to select Supreme Court nominees. So many other reasons to hang in there!

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  614. Patty Anne said on October 5th, 2012 at 12:07 pm

    I got the impression watching Obama during the Obama/Romney debate, that he was deliberately acting “lethargic” as so many news casters stated afterword. I wonder if his plan isn’t to be seen as the under-dog, so that he can make a comeback on the second debate and claim, as he has to his supporters in the past, rise above being “held down” to over-come? It was the word he was giving pre-POTUS and would seem to me to be a stratigy he would consider successful. BUT….would Bill Clinton go along with this? I would have loved for Obama to have fulfilled his promises, but I also hold him to them. “If I Can Not Accomplish These Things In Four Years, I Do Not Deserve A Second Term”…….so be it.

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  615. Up the Coast said on October 5th, 2012 at 12:24 pm

    @janindisguise:
    Drip…drip…drip…I am shocked at what young people are willing to swallow, and even defend :cry:

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  616. ream said on October 5th, 2012 at 12:28 pm

    Anyone that has not seen dark shadows you should watch it. omg laughed till i cried. i don’t usually watch jd movies but hes wonderful in it. absolutely perfect. and helena bonham carter was perfect. i didn’t know jonny lee miller was in it. any way he was good too. perfect melodrama. i wish day time soaps went back to that i would so watch them.

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  617. sinker said on October 5th, 2012 at 1:16 pm

    @WR:
    I saw hesitancy, but after thinking about it, I think he was genuinely baffled by Jim Lehrer’s mangling of the whole thing (but probably projecting since that is how I felt). It ended being a total train wreck and I think since (IMO) Obama tends to give more thought out answers, and Romney was better at barreling ahead w/ his talking pionts, Lehrer’s inadequacies at setting boundaries favored Romney.

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  618. Up the Coast said on October 5th, 2012 at 1:42 pm

    @Patty Anne:
    I agree with him, on that ;)

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  619. WCKitty said on October 5th, 2012 at 1:44 pm

    @Guest2:
    No…I haven’t heard that rumor. Where did you hear/read that?

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  620. WCKitty said on October 5th, 2012 at 1:45 pm

    “I haven’t left my house in days. I watch the news channels incessantly.
    All the news stories are about the election;
    All the commercials are for Viagra and Cialis.
    Election, erection, election, erection – - either way it’s about getting screwed!”

    . . . . . Bette Midler

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  621. Up the Coast said on October 5th, 2012 at 1:52 pm

    @WCKitty:
    +1

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  622. Guest2 said on October 5th, 2012 at 2:53 pm

    @WCKitty:
    It was at blindgossip.com. I thought I posted the link late last night but either it didn’t go through or I forgot to post the comment.
    @WCKitty:
    +2

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  623. Patty Anne said on October 5th, 2012 at 3:16 pm

    Elementary with Johnny Lee Miller and Lucy Lu premiered on television (CBS) last night. I thoroughly enjoyed it and saw what keeps Angie coming back for more. JLM is hawt~! Great acting pair too. (LL and JLM)@ream:

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  624. Liz E. said on October 5th, 2012 at 4:53 pm

    @sinker:

    That’s an excellent analysis. Thanks.

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  625. WCKitty said on October 5th, 2012 at 5:33 pm

    @ream:
    I haven’t seen the movie yet. I never had the chance to watch the show when it was on television either. I have often thought about renting the shows, but the first season is always gone! :( Anyway, I am going to eventually get around to seeing the movie. I watched Stardust last night and it was a fun movie.

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  626. Guest1 said on October 5th, 2012 at 8:09 pm

    @WCKitty:
    Love it!

    I haven’t really kept up on this site in the past week, too much going on personally. But I did see bits of the debate, and I am not sure if anyone mentioned this or had a similar take. But watching Obama reminded me of watching GB Jr. debate with John Kerry. Obama’s facial expressions when Romney was speaking I thought were very similar to GB Jr.’s facial expressions when John Kerry was speaking.

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  627. WCKitty said on October 5th, 2012 at 8:31 pm

    @Guest1:
    I missed the debate as I was on the phone with family and also have a lot going on. What time I have had has been spent reading what the headlines from the debate are about and reading posters comments to get different viewpoints. Reading some of the personal stories is scary and this country is heading for very scary times no matter who gets elected. I also read body language experts opinions, but they even have different takes on the candidates, neither who I care for.

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  628. Guest1 said on October 5th, 2012 at 9:04 pm

    @WCKitty:
    Unfortunately it is not just this country heading for scary times.

    Has anyone ever watched the show on HGTV, House Hunters International? I wish my husband and I had the courage to start over again in another country. But what country, and would we be able to find work?

    My sister-in-law has been living in Ireland for almost 20 yrs and at one time worked for Apple in Ireland. Her husband is french and is a professor at the University of Cork. Now she can’t find a job in Ireland, even with a masters degree. All jobs now go to Irish citizens. The economy is so bad in Ireland they have unpaid internships at grocery stores. She came to the states to work for one year at Starbucks and lived with her parents to earn enough money to go to England to get a nursing degree. Meanwhile when she was here, she constantly put down the U.S. Eventhough I don’t like what is going on in the U.S., I took offense at some of the comments she made, and I am of Irish heritage. I guess I still have some American pride.

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  629. Guest1 said on October 5th, 2012 at 9:05 pm

    For those who watch it, a new episode of Grimm just started.

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  630. WCKitty said on October 5th, 2012 at 9:26 pm

    @Guest1:
    I know it’s not just this country that is in trouble and I still love this country and there is so much here that I still want to see and experience. That is sad about Ireland and about your sister-in-law. I have always wanted to visit the country and see where my ancestors lived. I have looked at other countries, but I have my children here who I don’t want to move away from. They may eventually join us, but the fear of not being able to just show-up if they needed me is to difficult to think of. I keep thinking of my own grandmother who was sent to Canada along with her siblings by her parents in Germany. My grandma never saw her parents again. This was before the war, but I have been told that my great-grandpa knew what was coming.

    Anyway, I like warmer climates, though I don’t mind snow for a few months, especially if there are some slopes not too far off!!! It’s been a while since I’ve had the opportunity to ski, so the ski patrol should be nearby with a stretcher! :lol: If I could retire I’d like to move to the Mediterranean area and live in a small village where I could still grow my lavender plants and Myer lemon trees. I try to think positively about the future, but it gets very hard sometimes, especially with all the other stuff that is going on in my personal life. You should still feel proud to be an American.

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  631. Dream said on October 5th, 2012 at 11:59 pm

    @WCKitty:
    lol u or anyone that has not seen the movie really need to. it was not advertized as well as it should have been.
    every actor in it is superb, the funniest thing i have seen since rocky horror.
    any way hate to keep interrupting but its all i ahve to add recently.

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  632. Dream said on October 6th, 2012 at 12:01 am

    @Guest1:
    i love that show keep wondering what the heck do all these people do for a living they can jsut pick up and move to another country.

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  633. WR said on October 6th, 2012 at 2:27 am

    @sinker:
    Yes, I read a lot of criticism about the ineptitude of the moderator.
    Also saw on CNN, a review of the body language of both debaters. And I had thought Obama had enough savvy to utilize body language. And that’s why I assumed Clinton would coach him. Just assumed, wrongly!

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  634. WR said on October 6th, 2012 at 2:31 am

    @Patty Anne:
    I had read the same reaction on some sites. BUT, I wondered why Obama would be so fool-hardy. That would imply he isn’t aware that many people are voting early.
    Others are saying that he wants to lose, because the women in his life overwhelmingly are tired of the lifestyle. Then, more reply that he wouldn’t let that stop him from continuing his historical quest.

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  635. WR said on October 6th, 2012 at 2:40 am

    This time I had to put my 2 cents worth in the talking circle; i. e. when the topic of child abuse in the form of utilizing them as sex symbols. In fact, it shocked our male participants most of all. We related what we had heard, read or seen. Several said they had never seen such things as have been going on, in their lifetime. And our society is heading for a great crash!
    Well, my contribution was that we needed to keep this an ongoing topic, and try to think of solutions a small group can create. Hmmm, this will require some deep thinking on my part!

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  636. Siska said on October 6th, 2012 at 5:33 am

    @guest3:maybe not directly call it!but you accuses Jen with bad stuff also like old,haggard,ugly,b lister,not famous,etc. even saying that brad never loved her,cause he still hurt over goop.
    Btw Jen fans a bit better on name calling angle,cause its basic on her past image ( even recent image,with leg gate and witch role). But the die hard angle fans in here sometime get so nasty even try to threat me and ill wish my kid. And I never heard it in here.
    So it’s apply both way.

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  637. Guest2 said on October 6th, 2012 at 7:35 am

    @Dream:
    That’s what I always think too. I’ve also wondered what these people get for being on the show. I loved the movie too even though I’d never watched the show on television. I hardly ever go to the movies but saw this one in Imax with some work friends swhich was very cool. They were all really good in it and it seemed to me the character of the witch angelina was modeled after the real life aj especially with all the prancing and posing. jmo of course.

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  638. Guest2 said on October 6th, 2012 at 7:36 am

    @Siska:
    Hi Siska, haven’t you seen you here in a while.

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  639. Guest2 said on October 6th, 2012 at 6:45 pm

    Where did everyone go? Is it something I said? My breath?

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  640. WR said on October 7th, 2012 at 3:36 am

    @Guest2:
    JMO!
    The subjects we used to come here for, are just not that interesting, anymore. So, some of us go elsewhere. There are a zillion things to look up.
    Also, we came here to see what familiar others are saying, no?
    Sometimes, I, for one, post a saying, an anecdote, or something else just to add hits to the thread.
    We had a terrific heat wave, recently. One would think that this would be a good reason to surf the internet. Well, I did visit more than a few people, locally. And I went out hiking, hoping to see some wildlife. No luck.. it was too hot for them, as well!

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  641. WR said on October 7th, 2012 at 3:42 am

    Here’s something interesting. On October 21, Pope Benedict will canonize 7 saints, two of whom are american. One is Blessed Marianne Cope. She was the one who followed St Damian’s lead and ministered to the leper colony at Molokai.
    The other american is a Mohawk Indian. She is Blessed Kateri Tekakwitha.

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  642. Guest2 said on October 7th, 2012 at 8:00 am

    @WR:
    I think you’re right that the subjects just aren’t as interesting anymore. I also think there isn’t much to say because they (the subjects) have all stayed pretty much under the radar lately. I suppose we’ll just have to wait for the weddings if they ever take place. I’m going to an autumn fair today which is always fun. The Fall is my favorite time of the year.

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  643. Up the Coast said on October 7th, 2012 at 12:40 pm

    @Guest2:
    Fall (and Spring) is my favorite time of year also :) I agree that our regular topic is a snoozefest right now, and the politicians who try to divide us make it too uncomfortable to even discuss the election ahead. IMO, that’s exactly the way they want it….so be it.

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  644. WCKitty said on October 7th, 2012 at 1:21 pm

    @Up the Coast:
    @Guest2:
    Fall is also my favorite season. The days are on the warm side (finally) and the cool nights. The downside is that I have had to step-up my exercise routine because I love the food associated with the season…pumpkin pie for one!!!

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  645. Up the Coast said on October 7th, 2012 at 3:42 pm

    @WCKitty:
    Fall is a great time to go bicycling (I just got a new bike!).

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  646. WCKitty said on October 7th, 2012 at 4:10 pm

    @Up the Coast:
    Yeah!!! It is a great time of the year to go for a bike ride. I got a new bike last year, but I haven’t ridden it much lately due to the heat. I hadn’t been on a bike for a long time and it felt weird at first. I had to get a better seat than the one that came with my bike since it was too hard. :lol: Have fun on your bike! :P

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  647. Guest2 said on October 7th, 2012 at 7:04 pm

    @WCKitty:
    Apple pie for two for me. I love them both.
    @Up the Coast:
    I haven’t ridden a bike in years and finally gave away my old one a few years ago. The roads are not bike friendly and the best places to ride are the state parks so we don’t have to deal with crazy drivers. This is the best time of year for a bike ride. The leaves are changing color and it’s just beautiful but walking and hiking are great too. Too bad winter and snow follow but I guess it’s all part of the cycle.

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  648. WR said on October 7th, 2012 at 8:30 pm

    People are discussing the lack of attendance at our churches. We don’t sing anymore. The hymns have meaningful lyrics, but the melody leaves something to be desired. And now, there’s only 2 choices at our church. One stanza from a poetic hymn at the start, and another at the end of the service.
    An acquaintance, the one who sees conspiracies running amok, says that all this is orchestrated from down below. Wherever it’s from, I miss the lusty singing of the past.
    The theme discussed today, was the creation of man and woman. It may be in anticipation of our choices to made next month.
    I’ve warned my liberal friends that the democratic party has at least two albatrosses around its neck. One is abortion, and the other is gay marriage. In addition, there is illegal immigration; however my church is for that. Some claim that’s because it means more members; and therefore, more monies.
    All this causes division among our talking circle members. Now, we have to wait for the elections to be over before we make friendly again. Lol!

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  649. Liz E. said on October 7th, 2012 at 11:36 pm

    @WR:

    “I’ve warned my liberal friends that the democratic party has at least two albatrosses around its neck. One is abortion, and the other is gay marriage.”

    Isn’ t that funny. I consider abortion and gay marriage an albatross around the neck of the republican party. I don’t think the majority of women will willingly return to the days where they were denied control over their bodies. I’m old enough to remember what that meant and how that felt.

    Don’t be too cynical about your church and its position on “illegal” immigraton. We are a nation with a proud immigrant history with great church participation in helping them get settled. Many people’s ancestors were illegal and many would never have made it here if the present restrictive laws were in place back in the day. The immigrant experience in the US is part of what made this country great and kept it free. Sorry – I’ll get off my soap box now.

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  650. janindisguise said on October 8th, 2012 at 12:09 am

    Too much going on with family and life lately. Ready behind the scenes (non-MSM stuff) lately til I get to feeling like I need to get out from under that heaviness and then put the computer on you tube and Bob Marley’s “everything’s gonna be alright”. Love it. And then read scriptures that comfort me and bring me Peace – that all in this world is all in God’s hands. And since I am His, I know he will never leave me or forsake me – never. And then I do it all over again. Heh.

    I am so glad I am “retired” now. I am so much more relaxed with what I must do as daily activities. I have been getting organized, caught up with things slowly. It has been crazy keeping up with Mom’s care, condo, affairs (no I don’t think she’s having one of those but who knows about these seniors – haa), and keeping up with my stuff and home and then the job. So it was ending up with being too spread out. Hence, everything at both places was half-measured and disorganized. “Make a me crazy!”

    Furthermore, there was NO time for companionship of ANY kind and that really MUST be seen about. :-)

    I hope that everyone is awake as to the things that are going on behind the scenes and not so focused on the 2 illuminati puppets. They are not running the show. What a game. We are not stupid sheeple, at least many of us are not. As far as I am concerned, there is no one that I want to cast my vote for, even I thought it would count.

    Just coming by to say hello to all and wish you all peace, safety and good health.

    Love,
    JinD

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  651. Siska said on October 8th, 2012 at 1:21 am

    @Guest2:hi!! I just come back from almost month holiday!! So I’m just checking in and out very rarely..

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  652. Siska said on October 8th, 2012 at 1:29 am

    Are anyone have any opinion about why Chelsea very outspoken on disliking angie? And some of her words regarding brad relation with angie and kids seem like ian or Melisa indicated,specially basic on recent Howard interview.
    Or all of this just to keep the fuel if the triangle still on or in other hand just for or purpose?
    The word that Chelsea used for angie as evil woman because she didn’t had friend,can be look at to drum up the promotion of Aj new movie as evil witch.
    I think because we can’t knew the real deal in Hw,that’s why I’m a bit sceptic on this kinda stuff,plus basic on the info my friends gave to me,it’s adding to my believe of distrusting the image that HW gave us.

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  653. Siska said on October 8th, 2012 at 1:29 am

    I mean pr not or purpose..he..he

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  654. WR said on October 8th, 2012 at 3:43 am

    @Liz E.:
    You have to reread my post. Look at the part where I say, “Some claim”,…
    My church has millions of members of voting age. Even if non-catholic women screamingly protest that it’s their bodies, etc…the church will not back down. The bishops and the Vatican are getting to the point where they are warning us catholics, that we are endangering our souls if we vote for Obama. Now, that doesn’t mean every catholic will vote for Romney, however. They may well vote for other candidates. But, here’s something to ponder: There are millions of minorities who came from catholic countries who are not polled by the various groups. However, once in private, they will be anti-abortion, anti-gays, and they will be aware of the church’s warnings. And many of those are illegal immigrants. Of course, many more non-catholic illegal immigrants will cancel the pro-catholic votes. But there are other minority voters who will listen to the warnings, such as the sizable Filipino population, the Italians, and others.
    And we are a nation of proud immigration? I hope you’re not implying that I didn’t know that! The great majority were legal, however. It’s now way out of hand. It would take a book to tell about why it’s cost the USA trillions of dollars. And the monies earned at jobs that could go to U.S. citizens are instead being given to illegals, and their earnings being sent to Mexico. That would be another thread. I’m just reporting.
    I stand by my comments! We just agree to disagree!

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  655. WR said on October 8th, 2012 at 3:48 am

    @WR:
    Truly, I hadn’t thought of what I could say to the priests concerning this. Now, I feel it’s absolutely necessary to talk about it to my satisfaction! What are my obligations, etc!
    So, Liz E. I do have to thank you for the “kick start”; i.e. to get out of my complacency!
    Tomorrow, then!

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  656. Guest2 said on October 8th, 2012 at 6:20 am

    @Siska:
    Siska, when I read chelsea’s comments my first thought was that she must read IUC and FF. She’s been bashing aj for so long I’m inclined to believe she really means it. My second thought is that maybe she’s trying to help brad “get away” without looking like the bad guy. They both are part of the same PR firm.

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  657. janindisguise said on October 8th, 2012 at 12:03 pm

    It’s so funny that they talk about anti-abortion. Doesn’t matter who’s in office, does it? How long have abortions been legal? Been thru some Dems and Repub terms even. The only difference that I can see now is that we will be paying for them thru the healthcare if Obama stays? Or is that just birth control? Some BTW will be using abortion as birth control.

    Gotta go. I’ve made myself ill.

    Peace

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  658. Guest2 said on October 8th, 2012 at 12:17 pm

    @Guest2:
    After thinking about CH’s comment that brad is stuck because of the kids I’m wondering if she’s letting everyone know the truth about the situation. Or maybe the truth as brad has represented it to certain people to make himself look like a martyr who’s sacrificing for his kids instead of the a–h— he’s become over the past few years. He showed himself to be a master manipulator in cannes in 2011 so I wouldn’t put it past him.

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  659. Guest2 said on October 8th, 2012 at 12:19 pm

    @janindisguise:
    Don’t we already pay for them through welfare insurance?

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  660. Up the Coast said on October 8th, 2012 at 12:29 pm

    @WR:
    Thanks WR, I also agree with your comment.

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  661. Up the Coast said on October 8th, 2012 at 12:51 pm

    @janindisguise:
    I agree that killing babies is a disgusting topic :( It would be nice if we could talk about waiting to have sex until after marriage, but that’s so un-cool. We wouldn’t want young women to have self-esteem, would we? ;) Too much money to be made by having low self-esteem.
    It should be obvious to all of us by now that IF Obama really cared about gay marriage, he could have done something about it in the last 4 yrs…but it even goes against the teachings of the church he went to, with Rev Wright, who was also the leader of the DLC. (Keep it on the down low).

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  662. Up the Coast said on October 8th, 2012 at 12:54 pm

    @Guest2:
    I don’t know about other states…but in California they changed welfare checks to debit cards which can be used at any ATM, even at the Indian Casino. In the first 10 months of this year, well over a Million $’s of welfare ATM transactions have been reported…..that doesn’t account for people who got money on their way to the Casino :(

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  663. Guest2 said on October 8th, 2012 at 1:11 pm

    @Up the Coast:
    We have debit cards here in lieu oif food stamps but I don’t think they can use them at casinos (yet). The big debate here is using them for manicures and pedicures. Something is really effed up with this system.

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  664. Guest2 said on October 8th, 2012 at 1:11 pm

    @Guest2:
    …of….

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  665. anon said on October 8th, 2012 at 1:18 pm

    Just returned from Turkey. AJ was visiting the Syrian refugees there last month and came up to Ankara to meet with Turkish officials including the country’s President Abdullah Gul. After Angelina left the country national newspapers were reporting of a secret meeting between her and the country’s leading organ transplant surgeon Dr. Yaman Tokat. According to the reports, AJ showed the esteemed doctor her medical records about her ailing liver (due to Hepatitis C she contracted in her younger years). The doctor’s recommendation : GET A LIVER TRANSPLANT ASAP!
    I was saddened to hear about this. She is a young woman with six young children. I hope she gets her health back soon. I wish her and her family well. This could explain her frail look in recent years.

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  666. WR said on October 8th, 2012 at 1:25 pm

    @janindisguise:
    Interesting pov! I was just thinking the same thing! Romney and the republicans may, or may not just want those millions of votes. I did read that Bush used to sneer at the religious right, in private. He used them. So that could be the case with Romney, as well.
    It’s just that our church has been getting aggressive, lately. And I had to report that. On the other hand, perhaps it would be better to keep that reportage for another site.
    A fried who is my opposite in politics, and a proud liberal, told me that it looks like Obama will win despite his sorry performance at the debate.

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  667. Up the Coast said on October 8th, 2012 at 1:28 pm

    @Guest2:
    It sure is!

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  668. WR said on October 8th, 2012 at 1:29 pm

    @WR:
    A “friend”. Have never seen her fried even in the hottest weather, lol!

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  669. WR said on October 8th, 2012 at 1:31 pm

    @Up the Coast:
    Thank you, as well.

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  670. WR said on October 8th, 2012 at 1:41 pm

    Several years ago, I read that Octomom received a huge amount in welfare monies. It was reported she used those monies to get surgery to look more like AJ, her idol.
    What worries me is Medicare. It may be over and done with in our lifetime. I have stated that I worked in hospitals in emergency situations. I have seen and heard abuses of medicare from the start. Millions have been charged to medicare. Unnecessary procedures that are mere tokens of effort have been billed to medicare. But, oh how some of us need medicare. We can only hope fraud is exposed more often for the federal agencies to stop some of it at least.

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  671. WR said on October 8th, 2012 at 1:45 pm

    OT. Was internet surfing yesterday when I decided to look at The Hollywood Reporter. A columnist by the name of Feinberg listed his current predictions of the oscar nominations, now due in early January.
    To see THR, google it and scroll to the article. Interesting list. Most prominent titles are “Lincoln” and “Argo”.

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  672. Up the Coast said on October 8th, 2012 at 1:58 pm

    @WR:
    Medicare fraud is rampant, the elderly and disabled are easy targets according to the govt. I saw a report on the news that said 1 doctor, alone, had defrauded Medicare for over 100 Million $’s :shock:
    http://www.nytimes.com/2012/10/05/business/medicare-fraud-charged-against-91.html?_r=0

    Where are the checks and balances?

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  673. WCKitty said on October 8th, 2012 at 2:17 pm

    @Up the Coast:

    That is awful!

    Checks and balances have always been a problem, because just like with corporations, a lot of people are looking for loopholes. I have known people who have come from very wealthy family’s that used welfare and nobody checked. My ex-next door neighbor (by no means poor) defrauded workman’s comp and got away with it. If I had known that is what he up to, I would have taken pictures that showed he was a liar. Next thing I know, he was at it again, and that family is doing very well financially. BTW, the whole family was the family from h*ll and I am so glad that I no longer live next door to them.

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  674. WCKitty said on October 8th, 2012 at 2:30 pm

    @WR:
    Octomom is still getting help from the government. Her excuse about her expensive haircut was that she earned that money and the government money paid for her children’s haircuts. If she had enough money to pay for her $500+ haircut, then she has enough to pay for the kids. She makes those who are on welfare because they really do need a hand-up look bad because many people generalized. Octo is irresponsible, self-centered, and delusional IMO, but she sure knows how to work the system. I know that there are others and debit cards given to people like her or are gamblers is scary. Personally, I hate getting stuck behind someone in the grocery store with their welfare checks. Not because of the welfare, but because everyone has to wait while the cashier is forced to make sure everything is legit and goes to the right groceries. The time used is costly to everyone including the grocery store. I also don’t think that a mom who is buying groceries for her children because of some legitimate personal reason should be publicly humiliated. I think that the cards are a good idea if they are only able to be used in a grocery store. The product’s bar codes should be recognized as eligible for food stamps and then everyone should be happy. There is nothing legitimate about a gambling casino.

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  675. WCKitty said on October 8th, 2012 at 2:58 pm

    This is awful and it appears that some women have absolutely no critical thinking skills. Why would a woman want this creep as the father of their child? 8O

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  676. Up the Coast said on October 8th, 2012 at 3:28 pm

    @WCKitty:
    Unbelievable :cry:

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  677. Payal said on October 8th, 2012 at 3:35 pm

    @WCKitty:
    More than that I feel awful for her kids.

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  678. Up the Coast said on October 8th, 2012 at 3:36 pm

    @WCKitty:
    I don’t have a problem with welfare, I have a problem with fraud. I don’t want children having to worry about where their next meal is coming from…and I don’t want them being used/abused. It’s pretty simple, really.

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  679. rushdog said on October 8th, 2012 at 4:02 pm

    Ahhh…another engagement ring photo op just like the other couple back in April. Both photos, now and then, are just a little too clear to be an accident. Just part of the staging….

    http://todayentertainment.today.com/_news/2012/10/08/14298257-jennifer-aniston-shows-off-massive-ring-from-justin-theroux

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  680. WCKitty said on October 8th, 2012 at 4:15 pm

    @Up the Coast:
    I agree

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  681. rushdog said on October 8th, 2012 at 4:42 pm

    I’ve been mulling over Ian’s post and additional postings. After reading this blog for over three years it is apparent imo that Ian posts in a certain way for a reason. He added to the original post here first w/a travel review (at the end) and second with links to his comments on AS’ book (at the beginning, before the riddle clues). BTW

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  682. Togi said on October 8th, 2012 at 4:42 pm

    That thing is hideous! lol
    @rushdog:

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  683. Up the Coast said on October 8th, 2012 at 4:51 pm

    @rushdog:
    Good for Jen :) That ring glows just like Jen does. (joLIE’s ring is yellow like pee) :lol:

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  684. rushdog said on October 8th, 2012 at 5:11 pm

    darn, hit a button accidentally…BTW Ian, nice commentary on AS.

    How hard is it for Ian to make a new post for the blog? It can’t be that time consuming or difficult. So why didn’t he do that with either the AS links or the travel review. IMO in addition to stand-alone comments on each subject, he is also using them to make additional commentary on this riddle.

    The AS links are placed before the riddle and the comments in the links include: “convenient recall” “calculated move” and “this is about positioning and damage control.” I can’t connect to the first video link anymore but I believe Ian’s comments were to the effect that if AS is sincere about clearing the air there are ways of doing it privately (paraphrasing here since I watched it last week). Possibly placed before so as to say what follows is “convenient…calculated…about positioning and damage control.”

    IMO Ian is saying that the comments regarding the intentions of AS are the same for the subjects of this riddle.

    The photo of BP and JA from the 2002 GG’s when she was nominated but didn’t win – a “good luck” hug before the announcement and their hands are clasped as though in a handshake, an agreement.

    And the travel post suggests to me that a person(s) were seen by the desk clerk in Orlando (his comment about “front desk…primo”). By the pool? And the picture of the hotel was taken from the SeaWorld parking lot across the street from the hotel. Renaissance means rebirth.

    So maybe the recent and current press (engagements, rings and weddings) is calculcated positioning and a previous agreement is still in place?

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  685. rushdog said on October 8th, 2012 at 5:27 pm

    chewing the cud – pondering/wedding invitations, gift wrap & bags (website)
    seeping after surgery – cleansing a wound and/or leakage
    greatest conductors? – for voltage (power) the metal in the rings or orchestrators

    lube-to-go – I would go with this one being the south Florida business since Ian spends so much time in Florida. This is what it says about the company: “since 1998….has been an integral part of the…fleet and delivery needs…to preserve the life…”

    JA and BP started dating in May of 1998.

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  686. lol said on October 8th, 2012 at 5:31 pm

    @Up the Coast:

    YOU LYING BITCH. JUST BECAUSE YOU UGLY WOMEN HERE SAY IT DOESN’T MAKE IT TRUE. NObody has ever said Angie slept with Married men. It is amazing how fascinated you freaks are about this woman’s sexual life. Do you really think Jennifer Aniston has been without a man for all these year before she stole Justin from Heidi. Yeah whatever.

    Jen’s ring looks like crap. now where is all the talk of blood diamonds and how someone could buy a ring like that when so many people are suffering. Oh that only applies to Angie/Brad..

    She is showing off the ring to get attention isn’t that what you all said about Angie. Such hypo-critics. And that is why Aniston shows you how she is all about attention.
    So spin the shit all you want. Angie is a lot of things and one is honest. She has never hid her past or tried to be someone she is not. Probably why you nasty women are so up her ass. Well her is perfect Jennifer doing the PR stunt.

    call it what you will. she is all about the attention. Nobody has been talking about her or him in weeks. then the day a certain ad campaign is about to launch she makes the appearance so that it will make the rags this week. You can spin the shit til the end of time This woman is a stalker and she knows without Brad/ or Angie nobody gives a shit about her. Web sites are already calling her out and making fun or this new ploy.

    Oh you all love to quote lainey when it is about Brad or Angie.. well here you go..

    If you claims she is right about others then she is right about Jennifer too.

    Holy sh-t Jen’s ring is big…

    First shot of Jennifer Aniston’s engagement ring from Justin Theroux. It’s …

    Really big.

    Obscenely big.

    But it had to be, didn’t it? It had to be at least as big if not bigger than the Jolie’s. Click here to see the Jolie’s. The Jolie’s is big but it’s also lean and sharp; reminds me of Superman and the Fortress of Solitude, or whatever it is they call that place where all the shards of glass and ice are sticking up from the ground. Click here to see. That is totally Angelina Jolie’s engagement ring as designed by Brad Pitt. By contrast Jen’s ring is like a chubby gurgling baby, rotund and bouncy.

    And, just like when the Jolie waved it around a few months ago, Jen’s is on display on purpose.

    These are exclusive images released by Film Magic, always celebrity friendly and a trusted go-to for celebrities when they need to stage photos. But why now? Why this?

    Well, it’s Monday. Which means she’s made the tabloid deadlines. These pictures will be all over every magazine this week. What else happens this week?

    Oh….

    Brad Pitt’s ads for Chanel No5 will finally be released on October 15.

    WHAT???

    A coincidence again?

    And again?

    And again, and again, and again?

    Always a coincidence, isn’t it? It’s never, never, EVER a conspiracy.

    By the way, speaking of Pitt’s ads for Chanel No5, do you feel lucky?

    ********************************************

    And grow the hell up. these clues mean nothing. Get life because all of you are sad and pathetic. Ian only uses this site for a penny or two. What other blog only post a story or whatever every month or so.

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  687. Up the Coast said on October 8th, 2012 at 5:40 pm

    :lol:

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  688. Payal said on October 8th, 2012 at 6:17 pm

    The pics of Jen and Justin don’t make me feel good, not the way Jen used to make people feel, at least not me, before she was with Justin, if this was anybody else especially brangie we’d say these pics were so fake. He has a Cheshire Cat creepy grin constantly that seems to gloat I have the biggest prize. That ring is beyond ugly IMHO, and I love jewellery. It doesn’t feel like it would be to Jens taste at all, this woman who was once living in a mansion and said even a small room would be enough for her with a loved one. She once said a boyf taking her to see his old bedroom was romantic than a typical meal, a huge overbearing ring doesn’t feel like what she would like at all, something small and sweet would suit her best. Again this was the old Jen….don’t know who she is anymore

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  689. Guest1 said on October 8th, 2012 at 6:27 pm

    @Up the Coast:
    like a bad penny . . .

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  690. rushdog said on October 8th, 2012 at 6:32 pm

    Are they each other’s life preserver from a wound or leakage…frozen fromage…prissy and pink?

    like a desperado waiting for a train – the song is an expression of personal memory by it’s writer about an Oklahoma oilman and “desperado” here is singular so BP

    action for advocacy – taking steps to influence a decision or action
    vertex cover of a tree – a vertex is a special point, the corners or intersections- to cover up the intersections of a family tree???

    philistines and the arc – the battle for power and the “arc” of motherhood (sanctuary of shiloh)
    who blames who in the crucible – accusations and finger pointing???

    Motherhood…is there more than one in the triangle…

    This is what I think this long series of riddles has been about — this is the puzzle imo – BP planned in late ‘10/early ‘11 to step away from his current relationship and asked JA (in some way) to support him and used a dangling baby carrot as incentive (an agreement from back in their marriage and in the divorce) “Mama…in the Pitts?” There are plenty of riddles that suggest this plan went into effect. But part of the plan was altered because of the “cannes debacle” in ‘11 (did he get a reminder that he had contracts to promote films w/AJ as a couple?) thus the entrance of JTx (who shows up in the puzzle in the “Googling God” riddle in June of ‘11) and the need to become very public, very quickly. And then late summer ‘11 – a delivery – and I know this begs the question ‘but where has the delivery been?’ – but that’s what I think the series of riddles is saying. IMO all of this is explained in the “prissy and pink” riddle posted in early Oct.

    So the riddles continue through the end of ‘11 and beginning of ‘12 suggesting that the triangle is a facade and will end at the conclusion of awards season with the break-ups. But AJ, in a panic due to her international travels, needs to “secure her ride” (the trumpet rings out again linking 12/5 to February of ‘11 suggesting the end of “her ride”) and threatens a leak on JA (in the tabs: frozen sperm and then in Marie Claire? JA “there is no triangle”).

    At the end of January – “Into the Abyss” which I believe is revealed 3 mos later in “Should have put a ring on it” and “Texas 1464″ as a threat of leaks about AJ (and possibly includes him). So they wobble their way through awards season with Ian supplying a number of riddles suggesting “shit stinks more and more each day” and “image prison” and the threat of leaks. Then a promise for the future, both couples very low-key (a complete contrast to summer ‘11) and another engagement. Both rings shown via obvious photo-ops.

    And I now believe the tag “JP” means both the couple and Jen P.

    So the tag on this riddle: BP, JA, JP
    JA is between BP and the couple; she’s also stuck between him and her marriage (just can’t let go – an no, I don’t think that makes her weak, just human)

    Which brings us to now… LOL, anyone following my ramblings? This riddle is a slow-go. Kate – your thoughts since you seem to track the previous riddles like I do…

    IAN – ANY commentary at all….EVER…????

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  691. Tetta said on October 8th, 2012 at 6:41 pm

    @lol:

    Perhaps you are right. If it was Angelina standing there showing off her new engagementring some of us would say some not so nice words. But now it´s Jennifer who stands there. And I´m sure you know why we would express ourselves in different ways. It´s because some of us don´t like Angelina but many of us like Jennifer.
    It´s very easy to understand. Not hard at all.

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  692. WCKitty said on October 8th, 2012 at 6:42 pm

    @Up the Coast:
    8O

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  693. Guest2 said on October 8th, 2012 at 6:54 pm

    @Guest1:
    lol

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  694. rushdog said on October 8th, 2012 at 6:58 pm

    The ring is ugly, agreed, and almost too big to be true. Both reveals staged. Why would either of the rings need to be revealed in this way? Both couples are fos. Both. Of. Them. Aniston’s “coincidence” again and again…is not without Pitt’s consent. He could end that soon enough if he wanted to. I’m waiting for the weddings…lol, what a f&cking joke – BOTH couples. It is they who are pathetic.

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  695. Up the Coast said on October 8th, 2012 at 7:20 pm

    I think the ring is bitchen! So what is Jen supposed to do??? Keep her ring in a drawer forever, so it doesn’t look like she’s trying to one up joLIE? Why shouldn’t she be able to wear her ring? joLIE is wearing HER pee colored ring…except, of course, when she’s on a UN run :roll: and pretending to be a saint.

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  696. Guest1 said on October 8th, 2012 at 7:32 pm

    @Up the Coast:
    Actually Jen has been wearing the ring, just backwards so we only saw the band.

    She’s damned if she does, and damned if she doesn’t.

    Here I go with another idiom!

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  697. WCKitty said on October 8th, 2012 at 7:58 pm

    @Up the Coast:
    Oh UTC, Jen is supposed to wait until after Brad and Jolie get married. In other words, Jen isn’t allowed to get married until after h*ll freezes over. :roll:

    The ring isn’t something I would wear, but it’s Jen’s choice not mine.

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  698. Up the Coast said on October 8th, 2012 at 8:22 pm

    @Guest1:
    @WCKitty:
    EXACTLY! Maybe Justin thought: Go Big, or go home? :lol:

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  699. Guest2 said on October 8th, 2012 at 8:38 pm

    @rushdog:
    I agree that the reveal of the ring was totally staged but I do feel like jen/justin are in a real relationship as I see genuine affection between them. I also think brad is in the picture in some way, though not romantically. There’s Ian’s clues about him being the ringmaster and then chelsea handler talking about angie being evil and brad being stuck because of the kids cuz if he leaves aj might take them to Istanbul. She obviously knows something to be saying such things openly in interviews and it’s probably common knowledge in hw. Really, who bad mouths someone like that for no apparent reason? AJ seems to be fair game for ridicule lately and she’s no longer untouchable. Brad is repped by CAA as are both JA and CH so maybe they are just trying to help him in some way. I don’t know but it all seems so strange.

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  700. Guest2 said on October 8th, 2012 at 8:46 pm

    Here are pics of jen in Boston today. She’s hiding her ring fnger inside her handbag.

    http://www.justjared.com/photo-gallery/2735033/jennifer-aniston-boston-business-meeting-01/

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  701. Guest2 said on October 8th, 2012 at 8:53 pm

    The NE got the homes/cruise divorce papers that confirms some of what we already know.

    http://www.nationalenquirer.com/celebrity/exclusive-holmes-vs-cruise-inside-official-divorce-papers

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  702. Guest1 said on October 8th, 2012 at 9:07 pm

    @Guest2:
    Wyclef Jean was on Chealsea Handler’s show a week or two ago. Apparently he wrote a book called ‘Voodoosex,’ had an affair with Lauryn Hill while married, and was saying something about every
    women belonging to him. That comment didn’t go over well with Chelsea. AJ was not mentioned.

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  703. rushdog said on October 8th, 2012 at 9:16 pm

    @Guest2:
    I agree that there’s affection between them but it still doesn’t convince me that this is real in a way that they would like us to think. I’m still on the fence on what I think of them as a couple. Pitt and Jolie are much more savy with the PR in part, I think, because they have pr teams and not publicists. And it gives people the impression that they don’t f&ck w/the media when I believe they do. Aniston has a publicist, the norm in HW, and it clearly shows sometimes. She’s playing the game, “busted and disgusted,” and there must be a good reason for doing it because why open yourself up to the criticism for the ring when the shots and timing (although I think the argument it’s because of Pitt’s ad is weak) are staged. Is supporting a friend enough to risk that criticsm? I don’t know, but agree it is strange.

    I’m not familiar w/the Chelsea comments so I assume that Istanbul was tongue-in-cheek. Whatever the truth, it may be common knowlege in certain, tightly-held circles but not widely known or it would leak. AJ does appear no longer untouchable and to me that suggests that his protection has pulled away. Her one, big, giant step to A+ list was because of her connection to him and was highly manipulated to gain the full benefit from it, imo. I don’t see why that would change unless that was his choice. I posted maybe on one of the previous threads that I think this may still have to do with him trying to step away from his current relationship.

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  704. rushdog said on October 8th, 2012 at 9:35 pm

    I listened to Ian on CJAD radio tonight (see twitter) about Arnold. And I have to say Ian is fair and I’ve always found him to be that way. He may dig the dirt and he may criticise, but he also gives his subject credit when he believes they deserve it. I enjoyed the interview.

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  705. Guest2 said on October 8th, 2012 at 9:42 pm

    @rushdog:
    Maybe he is. There’s a lot of negative stuff on angie lately, the Hep C story, CH calling her evil and another blog saying it’s rumored in the lesbo community that she has bad hygiene and stinks. That’s pretty gross. Is brad behind all this? Are they all messing with AJ’s head? Why do I care?

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  706. rushdog said on October 8th, 2012 at 10:22 pm

    @Guest2:
    “Why do I care” OK that made me laugh. I know why do we even bother. But I have to echo what others have posted here in recent weeks, and maybe it includes you too, that I didn’t pay any attention to a lot of this kind of thing before. And I have to thank Ian, and hold my nose and thank the “triangle,” because I look at a lot of this so differently than before. Didn’t pay any attention to the marketing and pr, and I knew it was there just didn’t give it much thought. It’s all over our life – in reporting, in ads, in politics – to name a few.

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  707. Siska said on October 9th, 2012 at 1:13 am

    @Guest2:
    I’m with you. Chelsea already bashing Aj before she knew Jen, and after that she seem more prominent on spoke out about it.
    She might knew something or maybe all just pr trick..but as far as I knew, Chelsea usually don’t give a hoot about it,she said what she want.

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  708. Siska said on October 9th, 2012 at 1:27 am

    @lol:wow very high voltage ,,!,!
    Calm down ..we never knew the real stuff about hW ,so you can not declare that UPC lying,when we never knew the truth..but basic on AJ history with attached men,and her own admission about her sex life in the past,some people can assume or label her that.
    Plus about stage showing of the ring..lets agree that both party did it. And about attention seeking person.,both did it..remember the ” leg gate”? Their job usually require it. A person who interesting in entertainment business usually love attention. So it’s not big deal.
    Anyway.some of Aj fans kept saying that Jen Engagement was fake,just read the comments on pro Aj site,so now when she show it,why get upset?
    Btw Lainey alway pro brangie and goop fans. And not so into Jen, but more fair than celebtichy,and she alway has her conspiracy theory,but the usual always about Jen try to upstage brangie,never the other way around.

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  709. Siska said on October 9th, 2012 at 1:30 am

    @Guest2:
    She can’t do anything right for the haters..when she hiding it,they accuse because its fake engagement or its ugly/ small. But when she show it..they still comment unfavourable.
    I think her ring seem ok..it’s a present from her fiancée. It’s their taste..not really our right to disagree about it.
    They seem so happy..

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  710. P. Gold said on October 9th, 2012 at 2:22 am

    @rushdog:

    I think you’re wrong when it comes to Jolie and Pitt being more savy. All their PRs have failed lately, from the engagement ring to leggate to Cannes to her fauxmanitarian . I dont know if they have PR people or publicists but I think they have acted according to their feelings and what’s wedging in their revengeful hearts.
    Jen and Justin on the other hands have been savy and careful. I’m sure most of their appearances are PR staged but then it’s normal if she has someone as powerful as Huvane organising her daily activities. I’m sure most celebs or models have managers who organises their lives, and I believe that manager is Huvane and not Brad. Do you think Brad would arrange for Jen to come out shinning while he and his ” we are getting married soon” partner looking like shit? And do you think Brad is able to get out of Jolie’s claws easily? When? In 20 years? If Chelsea dares to come out and say nasty things about them, then it’s for sure they’re taboo in Jen’s lives.
    I would believe Jen is very OVAH with him. Who wont if you have someone as gorgeous as Justin. Please dont confuse someone who’s been divorced for 7 years and havent been in touch ( maybe once or twice ) with someone who cant decide if she should divorce because she still has some feelings for her hubby. I can only agree that Jen could have helped him as a friend but nothing more. With Jen being someone who put beauty and class above everythingl, I think Justin is more her type and not Brad. Who’s Brad?

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  711. P. Gold said on October 9th, 2012 at 2:25 am

    @Siska:

    True, this is what an engagement ring should be. I’ve always thought a solitaire ring represents most engagements rings.

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  712. Kate said on October 9th, 2012 at 2:29 am

    Up@rushdog:
    I agree with pretty much everything you said, and payal, except Ian posting his AS on this post has zero to do with this riddle. He is just not up to doing Brange right now, will be back to it in the next couple weeks. The ring is not the least bit attractive, looks staged, goes against who she is , he could not afford that if it was of good quality, imho, and they look happy because they have known each other for years as friends. Jen has pulled off the romantic look in all of her romcoms. I don’t believe it particularly, but I also don’t care either way.. I think Brad and Jen and Justin are in this together on one side, and Brad and Jen , with Jolie on another.Chelsea says Angie anosevil but Brad is a really good daddy. Who do you think told her? mmmm. ; ) manipulation. They are all very good at not being seen when they do not want to be.

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  713. Kate said on October 9th, 2012 at 2:35 am

    @Togi:
    A even pink..lol

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  714. Kate said on October 9th, 2012 at 2:39 am

    @Kate:
    Not even..J lo got pink, remember that engagement. All the pr around it, lol.nearly destroyed their careers.

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  715. Kate said on October 9th, 2012 at 2:39 am

    @Kate:
    Not even..J lo got pink, remember that engagement. All the pr around it, lol.nearly destroyed their careers.

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  716. Siska said on October 9th, 2012 at 6:47 am

    @P. Gold:I agree about Jen,brad and Justin situation, even Chelsea said that justjen is real and there is no way Jen will be back with brad.

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  717. Guest2 said on October 9th, 2012 at 8:54 am

    Rob Lowe is the guest host today on GMA. They were joking about pitt’s chanel ad saying that there should be a recount and lowe should get the ad. They showed the pic of brad’s face turned away from the camera and rob joked about it being a shampoo ad. No big deal as it was all in humor but it just reinforces that the brand are no longer untouchable in hw (like the chanel ad is a joke).

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  718. Guest2 said on October 9th, 2012 at 9:12 am

    @P. Gold:
    Actually, chelsea only said negative things about jolie and portrayed brad in a more sympathetic light. I think she knows quite a bit about his situation and I think she gets it from people who are still in contact with him. I don’t think her comments to Stern were random. The four (j/j/c/b) are with the CAA publicity firm but jolie is not. She is the outcast imo and I think kate is right that it’s against aj. I don’t believe there is any kind of relationship between b/j other than friendship, maybe based on pity more than anything else. I think the j/j relationship is real but I’m not sure the ring is. Something seems off with that ring just like it does with the “other’s” ring. JMO for what it’s worth. That’s all we have since none of us knows anything for sure. We all see it from different perspectives.

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  719. P. Gold said on October 9th, 2012 at 11:14 am

    @Guest2:

    Of course she knows. I would only have pity for him if I were anyone in the HW circle. He made his bed and he should lie in it. It’s not easy for someone to walk away from 6 kids, PR and Jolie. I agree everyone is against Jolie but she’s a Voight and a member of UN. I think Brad is facing some tough years and tough cookies. If Jen or anyone can help him or had he been really smart , he’d been out years ago instead of dragging this long. Jen can be famous on her own, why not he? Why does he need Jolie and kids to stay famous and make money? Why mastermind something that makes you look the loser instead of winner? That’s not him. He has always liked to boast that he’s a Zen master.

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  720. haki said on October 9th, 2012 at 11:40 am

    Why is Ian losing interest in Brangie?
    Ian, come back!!

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  721. Dream said on October 9th, 2012 at 12:08 pm

    @lol:
    first….u win at copy paste. there will be a tasteful award in the mail soon. second turn ur air back up it sounds like your getting a little over heated.

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  722. Kate said on October 9th, 2012 at 12:55 pm

    @haki:
    I would not be surprised if that is how he felt, as many do feel that way, including many here, but it was ” not up to doing Brangie” right now. He will be back to his blogging when he is I suppose. I would be tired of it too. lol , I know I am after four years of this . Brangie, but meant anything he blogs about in general on here. I can understand easily how one can get burnt out on these stars and all that goes with it when there are more serious things in our lives to tune into, and our country! :) How are you Haki?

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  723. Kate said on October 9th, 2012 at 1:27 pm

    @Guest2:
    So true, we all do,just as we do many things in life. I think it depends on how you view the entire situation. For some this is about romance. They are upset at the idea of any connection with Brad and Jennifer. I don’t find it odd for them to be friends, or involved in business ventures together for the good of all. I don’t believe Brad would ,try to destroy Angelina, but rather just position things where they can all go about their individual lives, whether connected publicly or not. Chelsea helps with whatever the agenda is and with both of their blessings. So does the entire circle of friends, and it is not all that difficult to connect the dots, and they all lead back to two people, Brad, and Jen, who are probably the ringmasters together, as friends. Not romantic in any way, but very business savvy. They were both always very involved in their careers, and image.

    Not everyone thinks Justin is gorgeous , although he is a cute guy, or that Brad is horrid and washed up, or that Angelina is evil. Those who do not like or love certain parties see if from their perspective, but that may have nothing to do with the reality of how they are seen by the masses or even their peers. All of these people are in their midlife, yet we see them on blogs and message boards still being fought over as if they were twenty somethings.

    There is a great deal of people, that do not follow any of this, that would have a feel Angelina had turned her life around and is a humanitarian, those closer to the situation, in life , that would agree that she is manipulative, but not necessarily evil. Many in the general public if you showed them a photo of Justin on the street today, would have no idea who he is, even though he is engaged to Jennifer. They just do not follow gossip, and in this economy they do not go to movies. Brad Pitt, does the average person out there have an opinion on him, other than he is with Angelina and has “all those kids”, lol. There was a time when people would discuss his films, him, not so much anymore, sometimes his social ventures, but he is still connected in the industry, just as Jennifer is. Same with Angelina with her duties for the UN. I don’t see any of these three fading away ever completely, they will evolve into whatever their pet projects are.

    As for the ring, it is very hard to believe that is a ring Justin purchased for her. Jennifer goes along for months hiding her hand, behind a bag, in her pocket, and suddenly it is on display ‘like that” , we had a chuckle among us. Not only is it not attractive, (although possibly it is if we saw it up close and personal) it just screams, “look at me” just as much as the display that Brange put on, as Rush said. Same director . jmho.
    ? I
    Why do that? If you are going to announce your engagement , why not then walk out with the ring on your hand during the same week? Why be so secretive for such a long time. It is breaking through the wall , isn’t it. Looking straight at the audience, wink wink..

    These are the kind of shots that end up in US or People, all staged, and in a hair shop,in someone’s living room, and those who do not surf online, will see it, and say, “oh look a that huge ring!” and never give it a never thought, until they either get married or split. Then they will wonder, what happened to that ring? ( they gave it back to whoever loaned it to them) yes I am being cynical. It was a little too cheesy for me, right from the beginning, the matching name rings, the parade, apartment wares shopping, down to this. It has , as Payal said, Brangelina stamped all over it, and if this was them doing it for the 1000th time as they have done in the pass, everyone that detest them would be ripping them apart for it. I think it is that double standard I can not relate to, because I see it as the same thing. It does not matter that Jen is a nicer person it is coming from the same place, for the same reason, and it does not bother me as to why, but I can’t look at it as though it is not the same thing as Brange does, because imo it is. Mr. Bridgeport and Pogo. jmho, I know many will not agree, but they would not with my vote for POTUS either. ;)

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  724. haki said on October 9th, 2012 at 1:37 pm

    Hi Kate!
    Great post!
    I am doing well, thank you.
    What do you think about Angie’s supposed need for a liver transplant surgery as a result of Hep C?
    Turks seem to believe it to be true!!

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  725. Kate said on October 9th, 2012 at 1:40 pm

    sorry for the sloppy post, maybe if you push Ian a little he will post something for all :) ra ra ra ! lol

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  726. Kate said on October 9th, 2012 at 1:55 pm

    @haki:
    I have a dear friend in that situation right now, that is dying. Her children are so sad, and it is from mistakes she made in her 20’s. She looks healthy at times, and other times as though she is at deaths door. Very sad, and the treatment is horrific for her and her family. I hope it is not true in regards to Angelina. Even if one does have a liver transplant it does not mean they will survive , their body could reject it. I kind of doubt it is true. I don’t think she would be drinking or smoking if she was faced with something that tragic. She has six children, and regardless of her faults, I do think they are her first concern. I know many do not. She may not parent the way I did, or in ways I agree with, but I believe she loves them and would like to see them grow up. Does that make sense. Sounds more like a faux story for sympathy manipulation , for whatever may be coming her way, or could just be the tabs making garbage up, or someone throwing it out there to threaten her, “stop that chyt, or this is what you could be facing!” kind of thing. shruggs.

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  727. Up the Coast said on October 9th, 2012 at 2:12 pm

    @Siska:
    Exactly….She can’t do anything right for the haters.

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  728. WCKitty said on October 9th, 2012 at 2:21 pm

    @Guest2:
    I am not sure about the ring myself. I don’t know Jennifer and I am one of those who never followed any of the them until a few years ago. I remember reading a few articles about Jen and Brad while waiting in the doctors office and they both seemed to be a down-to-earth couple. I always thought that they were a cute couple and were the type of celebrity who were known to invite a fan who was alone to have lunch with them. Now was this a PR stunt or were they really that way? I doubt we will ever know. Maybe the ring is just PR and/or maybe she is embarrassed or just doesn’t want to be flaunting her ring. Maybe she isn’t, but she is lucky to have security around her (I hope) because most women with rocks that size and worth don’t wear them out in public while going about their everyday life. They either wear very good replicas and/or when they are married they just wear a gold band.

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  729. Up the Coast said on October 9th, 2012 at 2:22 pm

    @Guest2:
    +1 :lol: Those ads are ridiculous. Here’s one for Brad: Where’s the Beef? :shock:

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  730. Guest2 said on October 9th, 2012 at 2:56 pm

    @P. Gold:
    “Facing some tough cookies”…..maybe the devil he sold his soul to. I’m not sure that brad’s aging is due solely to the children and living with aj.

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  731. Guest2 said on October 9th, 2012 at 3:28 pm

    @WCKitty:
    I never thought of it until you mentioned it but maybe the ring is a replica because she doesn’t want to wear the real one? Or maybe it’s a game masterminded by the ringmaster (with her cooperation as kate suggested above) where she gets to have the bigger ring.

    Kate, the difference between the two couples is that jen/justin are the only players in their game (we can only speculate about heidi). They don’t use innocent children to achieve their selfish objectives and I think that is a big difference. We really know way too much about those children ’s personal lives. I also don’t see jen monopolizing a red carpet and being disrespectful of oher fellow actors like we saw with brad in Cannes 2011. His behavior was disgraceful to the point where the French press was ridiculing them as mr. and mrs. god. I blame him for that display because she looked barely functional and he was dragging her around like a prop.

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  732. Guest2 said on October 9th, 2012 at 3:30 pm

    @Up the Coast:
    I like your avi :)

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  733. Up the Coast said on October 9th, 2012 at 3:51 pm

    @Guest2:
    :) Thanks

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  734. Guest2 said on October 9th, 2012 at 4:02 pm

    @Up the Coast:
    In that photo the center stone looks blue like an aquamarine surrounded by diamonds. Is there such a thing as a blue diamond?

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  735. Up the Coast said on October 9th, 2012 at 4:03 pm

    Brad is finally coming out of the closet :shock: http://dlisted.com/2012/10/09/open-post-hosted-many-looks-brad-pitt

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  736. Up the Coast said on October 9th, 2012 at 4:04 pm

    @Guest2:
    Probably…I’d have to google it.

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  737. Guest2 said on October 9th, 2012 at 4:05 pm

    @Guest2:
    Yes, there is.

    http://www.fancydiamonds.net/blue_diamonds

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  738. WCKitty said on October 9th, 2012 at 4:08 pm

    @Guest2:
    I agree that their behavior in Cannes 2011 was totally disgraceful and she did seem to be in another world at the time. However, I have seen other photos of Angie hogging the spotlight from other actors by standing in front of them and in films she even had nothing to do with. In her humanitarian photos, she appears to be always front and center.

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  739. Guest2 said on October 9th, 2012 at 4:09 pm

    @Up the Coast:
    Holy smoke, blend, brad, blend :lol:

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  740. WCKitty said on October 9th, 2012 at 4:09 pm

    @Guest2:
    I hadn’t noticed that before! :P

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  741. Guest2 said on October 9th, 2012 at 4:10 pm

    @WCKitty:
    Absolutely she does. They are a match made in ??

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  742. WCKitty said on October 9th, 2012 at 4:10 pm

    @Guest2:
    I’ll take them all!!! :P

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  743. WCKitty said on October 9th, 2012 at 4:17 pm

    @Guest2:
    BTW, last night I watched The Mentalist and it was about a diamond called the Blue Orchid and the lead character accidentally drank some tea laced with Belladonna and he was hallucinating in la-la-land! He imagined that the little garden gnome couple were real! :lol:

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  744. Up the Coast said on October 9th, 2012 at 4:22 pm

    @Guest2:
    Hey Brad…Mickey Rourke called and he wants his “look” back :lol:

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  745. Guest2 said on October 9th, 2012 at 4:27 pm

    @Up the Coast:
    I think mickey wants his look back too :lol:

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  746. Guest2 said on October 9th, 2012 at 4:29 pm

    I’ve spent way too much time on jen’s ring but maybe it’s a cushion cut stone surrounded by diamonds. The cut is making a comeback because vintage is back in style. Don’t they both love antiques?

    http://www.marthastewartweddings.com/229029/cushion-cut-diamond-engagement-rings#/110074

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  747. WCKitty said on October 9th, 2012 at 4:38 pm

    @Guest2:
    In this picture, it looks to be one huge rock and it is lopsided or the ring may be too big.
    http://www.femalefirst.co.uk/board/viewtopic.php?f=40&t=331271&start=30

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  748. Kate said on October 9th, 2012 at 5:03 pm

    @Guest2:
    I agree with that , I was only applying the comparison to the marketing of the engagements though.

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  749. WR said on October 9th, 2012 at 5:33 pm

    @Guest2:
    “Is Brad behind all this?” Can’t reply in the affirmative, but I’ve long felt he was calculating and uses people and then drops them at his convenience.
    Dlisted is featuring a positive view of him today, putting photos that are supposed to highlight his “macho” qualities. Ha! My immediate reaction to the lead photo was, There goes Brad again, looking like a woman posing as a man!

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  750. WR said on October 9th, 2012 at 5:40 pm

    Madonna was also known, for the longest time, for her bad odor. Even her own siblings affectionately called her “Smells”.
    BP was also reported to smell bad since a long time ago.
    I hate to say it, but some “sex symbols” have that reputation among “insiders”. Anyway, I’ve heard that from those who worked in show biz. Probably many others have bad odor, but it’s just not reported, even in blinds. Jmo!

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  751. WR said on October 9th, 2012 at 5:43 pm

    Leave it to Lainey to spew her hatred of JA in her column featuring the ring.
    As for me, I’ll believe it’s love when and if they walk up the aisle. Till then, it’s all about imagery.

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  752. WCKitty said on October 9th, 2012 at 5:53 pm

    @WR:
    Brad is infamous for his bad body odor. His bad odor was even mentioned on an episode of NCIS. :oops:

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  753. WR said on October 9th, 2012 at 6:04 pm

    I really hope that AJ recovers, and so won’t need a liver transplant. Maybe we can all remember to say a little prayer for her now and then. And then TNE would have to think about lawsuits if it was a false report.
    It was the loonies and their sniper attacks on Jen, that brought me here in the first place. But I never wanted really bad news about AJ like this. Just to show the loonies that we don’t hate AJ; we hate what she did! Major difference!

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  754. WR said on October 9th, 2012 at 6:10 pm

    He’s nearing fifty, but based on his photos as a supposedly masculine man, and his photos where he could easily pass for a woman, BP would be a very interesting choice for a remake of “Victor/Victoria”! Jmo!

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  755. Guest2 said on October 9th, 2012 at 6:15 pm

    @WCKitty:
    The ring looks different in UTC’s photo – I think she got it from the top pic here where it looks different than it does in the photo where she has her hand on justin’s face. Is it even a real engagement ring though – no announcement was made by their jeweler:

    http://www.usatoday.com/story/entertainment/2012/10/08/jennifer-aniston-justin-theroux-engagement-ring-santa-fe/1621169/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TP-LifelineLive+(Life+-+Lifeline+Live)

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  756. WR said on October 9th, 2012 at 6:16 pm

    @WR:
    He could be a woman pretending to be a man who’s pretending to be a woman.
    Or is it a man pretending to be a woman who’s pretending to be a man.
    Doggone, I’m all mixed up!
    Anyway, it would be an oscar nomination type of role, and he’s a legend in his own mind; so, how could he resist such a sure thing?

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  757. Guest2 said on October 9th, 2012 at 6:16 pm

    @WR:
    I agree with you.

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  758. WCKitty said on October 9th, 2012 at 6:22 pm

    @Guest2:
    The picture of the ring in UTC’s avi does give the ring a more beautiful appearance. The more I look at it, the more I wouldn’t mind it for myself! The cushion cut stone ring you gave a link for is really gorgeous! Here is a larger version of the picture you gave a link for:
    http://www.femalefirst.co.uk/board/viewtopic.php?f=40&t=331271&start=90

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  759. Up the Coast said on October 9th, 2012 at 6:30 pm

    @WR:
    :lol:

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  760. Up the Coast said on October 9th, 2012 at 6:37 pm

    @WCKitty:
    I think it’s gorgeous! I would rather stare at this ring than a stupid cell phone ;)

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  761. WCKitty said on October 9th, 2012 at 6:40 pm

    @Up the Coast:
    There is no comparison!!! :P

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  762. haki said on October 9th, 2012 at 6:44 pm

    I”m sorry, but I really don’t like that ring!!

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  763. Up the Coast said on October 9th, 2012 at 6:56 pm

    You don’t have to be sorry…to each their own.

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  764. Guest2 said on October 9th, 2012 at 6:59 pm

    @WCKitty:
    In the close up it looks like a blue center stone surrounded by something but I don’t know if they’re diamonds or what. It’s not my taste at all but then it’s not my finger either. I don’t think it’s a huge diamond stone though – a 10 carat diamond ring just doesn’t seem to go with jen’s casual style. Beyonce has a gigantic emerald cut diamond and it doesn’t look anything like jen’s ring. Whatever, why do I care anyway, I just need to stop this right now.

    http://globalgrind.com/entertainment/beyonces-wedding-ring-blue-ivy-carter-nyc-photos?gpage=1#gtop

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  765. Guest2 said on October 9th, 2012 at 7:04 pm

    @WR:
    :lol: I read on another blog that he said he’ll do anything to play a gay man on screen, hmm.

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  766. haki said on October 9th, 2012 at 7:31 pm

    I have to add that I would have loved that very same ring if it was, say, a bit smaller, like, 4 or 5 carats! I like that clean cut look, just not the size!
    Well, I didn’t care for the engagement ring that Brad had given her either!
    That’s all from me on Jen’s engagement rings!

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  767. P. Gold said on October 9th, 2012 at 10:25 pm

    If you take in that it look a bit goldish/yellowish, it looks stunning. I think the ring is real. I believe diamonds have many different grades and those in America isnt that stunning. I’ve seen Lazarre diamonds which is worth almost a million for just a carat.
    Another reason why I think it real is Justin is a proud Leo, He wouldnt give a cheap ring to Jen. It also look classy. i’ve always loved solitaire ring.

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  768. P. Gold said on October 9th, 2012 at 11:17 pm

    @haki:

    True, what matters is she finally has a ring from the one she loves.

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  769. haki said on October 10th, 2012 at 1:33 am

    Here’s a new picture of the ring. It is a flat diamond. So I like it better!
    Ok, good night now!

    http://www.glamour.com/about/engagement-ring

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  770. janindisguise said on October 10th, 2012 at 1:39 am

    Here’s a ring for ‘ya:

    http://www.wnd.com

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  771. Siska said on October 10th, 2012 at 2:46 am

    @P. Gold:plus because he is Leo and has to date one of the most famous girl who has string of more richer and famous than him,specially with ex husband was Bp. He has to buy her the biggest stone he can afford..he..he.man stil a man..they have ego.
    The ring is Justin gift for Jen..not reflect on Jen style. Anyway..it’s theirs taste..we can disagree but it’s not really our right.
    I felt sorry for Jen, and I felt the same for Aj also,when people criticise their ring.
    The one I felt funny was,when Jen not showing the ring,they all accuse that all of it just fake. Now she show it,they said its stage..that girl can not do right..

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  772. Guest2 said on October 10th, 2012 at 7:02 am

    @haki:
    Thanks for the photo, it does look prettier there.

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  773. Tetta said on October 10th, 2012 at 7:21 am

    @Siska:

    You are right Siska, it´s not our right to be judges and decide if the engagement rings look good or note. We can briefly say “I like that one better ” or “I like this one better”. But to analyze their taste too much is almost
    stupid and bad. First of all the beauty is in the eye of the beholder. It´s also wrong to judge the rings from photos. The diamonds beauty could only be seen in real life. I find it interesting and fun when we discuss different cuts and style of rings as it is a form of art. But all speculations about the size of the diamond and that Justin can´t afford such a ring are very low. At the same time perhaps they want the discussions. They get attention. But I don´t think they want us to compare Jennifer´s ring and Angelina´s ring.

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  774. Guest2 said on October 10th, 2012 at 8:01 am

    @Up the Coast:
    My gosh, someone needs a medication adjustment. I guess she doesn’t consider it a coincidence that after 8 years and having three children out of wedlock brangie finally decided to get engaged when it was apparent jen was in a committed relationship that was leading to marriage. Or that they started furiously leaking wedding rumors around the time that j/j were getting engaged. Who’s the real stalker?

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  775. Guest2 said on October 10th, 2012 at 8:08 am

    @Tetta:
    I feel a little bad that I commented so much on her ring (negatively) and that so many hate it. But they staged that photo op so they did invite the comments and there will always be the comparisons, they know that. I don’t think the ring photographed very well and in one of the photos it didn’t look real. It looks prettier in the photo haki provided. The loons will always bash jen and justin no matter what they do. I guess like we bash brangie.

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  776. Guest2 said on October 10th, 2012 at 8:14 am

    The Boston Herald reported that Jen was in Boston to scout out locations for an upcoming movie next March. Justin was with her (though not photographed) and he went shopping on Newbury St. in Boston (upscale) and then down to Cape Cod to visit his 101 yr old grandmother. The FF gals think the movie is Uelp where jen is a producer and she was accompanied by the other female producer. I really hope this movie gets made in Boston. I will have to take off the month of March to go up there to try and catch a sighting, lol.

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  777. Siska said on October 10th, 2012 at 10:18 am

    @Tetta:
    Yep..I am with you..that’s why Justin might felt pressure of giving a big diamond ring,because of the critics.
    Anyway,if he can afford it,why not ? It work for him,Jen said yes,I heard rumours that the others two Vince and John got rejected. Even with Justin,she rumoured to said no several times. Anyway it’s HW.they might mix business and pleasure.

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  778. Siska said on October 10th, 2012 at 10:23 am

    @Guest2:I will be pray for you to see her with a tad jealousy..he.he

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  779. Up the Coast said on October 10th, 2012 at 11:13 am

    @janindisguise:
    :shock: omg!

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  780. Up the Coast said on October 10th, 2012 at 11:15 am

    @haki:
    Beautiful :)

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  781. Up the Coast said on October 10th, 2012 at 12:20 pm

    @janindisguise:
    http://illegalprotest.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/10/obama-no-patriotthumbnail.jpg
    It’s been there all along…people just refuse to SEE it.

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  782. Tetta said on October 10th, 2012 at 12:32 pm

    @Guest2:

    Don´t feel bad about it. When we once began to discuss the ring it´s so easy to just hang on and continue. i´m not a better person than anyone else. Perhaps I wrote a comment about Angelina´s ring in that clue. I don´t remember. But I had a very strong opinion about her ring and if I wrote something there was no kind words. :)
    It didn´t hit me how cruel we are until I read Siska´s comment. At the same time these photos were taken to show the ring. J&J are probably prepared for critical comments. When you are a big star you have to share a lot of private stuff with public. But if two of our best friends got engaged at the same time I don´t think we would study every detail in the rings. As you can see I both dislike to write comments about the juwels at the same time as I say they have to be prepared for criticism. I´m a bit ambivalent in the question :)

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  783. rushdog said on October 10th, 2012 at 12:49 pm

    This is really ridiculous. She’s out-of-contro and heading for a sad ending. Talk about crappy parenting.

    http://todayentertainment.today.com/_news/2012/10/10/14343204-police-respond-to-fight-between-lindsay-lohan-and-mother

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  784. Guest2 said on October 10th, 2012 at 2:56 pm

    @Siska:
    The only thing I am a tiny bit jealous of is her gorgeous house. I don’t want the ring or the man but I wouldn’t mind having the house. But keep praying for me, please, I need it :)

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  785. Guest1 said on October 10th, 2012 at 3:27 pm

    I was thinking, if JA and JT are attending the The Inspiration Gala Los Angeles 2012 tomorrow night, they might have wanted to show the engagement ring before the Gala so the event doesn’t become about them and the ring. If they are planning to attend the event, I hope they don’t back out because of all the press about the ring.

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  786. Up the Coast said on October 10th, 2012 at 4:06 pm

    @Guest1:
    I’ll bet you’re right :) http://www.amfar.org/In_The_Spotlight/Event_Details/The_Inspiration_Gala_Los_Angeles_2012/

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  787. Siska said on October 10th, 2012 at 6:59 pm

    @Guest2:
    I’m praying for you..the jealousy part is me over you if you see her..he,,he
    They said that she hide the ring again..do you think she is embarasshed? Because she usually like understated stuff..but since with Justin she is wore a bit more bold jewellery like their name ring.
    Anyway..she is being a good gf by wore it when Justin with her. I notice she usually debuted her ring when she was with her partner. She never did solo ring debut. She is a romantic at heart.
    Btw..TmZ making a joke about Jen hand,they said her body didn’t match her hand. I think woman hand show how hard they work. That’s why it’s bit hard to trick . But they should not ashamed of it. If a hand too smooth,it show a person who not work much,,he..he..my opinion.
    What movie do you think she will start soon? Gored girl?

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  788. Siska said on October 10th, 2012 at 7:02 pm

    @Up the Coast:she might come,cause Chelsea will be there..and huvane brother is the person that being honour? Btw..Katy perry will performe,,is she bring John Mayer? Gonna be the first time jusjen and JM together..gonna be interesting ..he,,he

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  789. Siska said on October 10th, 2012 at 7:40 pm

    @Guest1:it still gonna be exciting cause Chelsea dislike Mayer…so she might crack a joke,cause both of his ex will be there..he.,he

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  790. Siska said on October 10th, 2012 at 7:41 pm

    Sorry double post

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  791. Guest2 said on October 10th, 2012 at 7:50 pm

    @Guest1:
    I never thought of that. You may be right.

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  792. Guest2 said on October 10th, 2012 at 8:17 pm

    @Siska:
    She has two movies in pre-production but the gals at FF said it is the movie that’s referred to as an Untitled Elmore Leonard Project. It costars Dennis Quaid as her husband. I think the plot is that two men just out of prison kidnap her hoping to get money from her husband who decides he doesn’t want her back. Not sure what happens after that. She’s a producer as well as starring in the movie. You’ll have to go to FF to get more info -they know all this stuff better than I do or maybe some of the guests here can elaborate.

    I hope they film it in Boston. I would love to see her in person. Actually, I would love to see all four of them in person. I’ve spent so much time gossiping about them I think if I could actually see them up close I could get a better sense of what they’re like and maybe put an end to this weird obsession. Many years ago I saw Sophia Loren at a department store when she was promoting a perfume. I never got really close to her but I was astonished at how tiny she was. She always looks larger than life on the screen. She is a beautiful woman but once I saw her in person the fascination was gone.

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  793. P. Gold said on October 10th, 2012 at 9:41 pm

    I@Siska:

    I’m an Aquarius and am quite vain. I like big and bold stuff but I can be quite conscious and shy . So, I can understand Jen’s characters and actions.

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  794. siska said on October 11th, 2012 at 1:00 am

    @Guest2:YYeah I understand, I think because we never saw them,they became more intriguing for us.
    I saw drew and adam years ago in sydney when they promoted wedding singer. They seem very friendly,specially adam,he is humble.
    Thats why I am glad jen is a good friend of him.

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  795. siska said on October 11th, 2012 at 1:16 am

    @P. Gold:yeah,s girl can have different style.

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  796. Guest2 said on October 11th, 2012 at 10:47 am

    So jen is now a co-owner of a hair care product that she will be the spokesperson for. The product was developed with a scientist from MIT. It’s really interesting how these celebs get these endorsement deals. Jen’s deals are a little different as she gets a share of the profits. But others just get paid to push the products. Brad gets millions of dollars to talk to a perfume bottle, angie gets paid millions of dollars to push overpriced handbags while being photographed in a dirt poor country. Who are the stupids here? I don’t think it’s the celebs.

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  797. Kate said on October 11th, 2012 at 1:05 pm

    So one tab has Jolie putting her wedding on hold. If Jen and Justin have a glamerous wedding then Brad might be able to escape without looking as bad as he did the last time, since Jolie, who is suppose to be very sick just wants to work, and is not interested in marrying him. lol L&S. Well at least they made her sound content and happy, and him a begging , please marry me. lol. Did he cut his hair, looks as though he did in his interview with Guy ( Mashes brother has always claimed he is 100% homophobic) , interesting interview, especially his marketing comments and those on perception, the image becomes the story, instead of the story. Yes it does. Tying up lose ends. Hmmm. Okay.

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  798. Kate said on October 11th, 2012 at 2:00 pm

    IAN- WHERE IS THE BEEF? THE BONE? YOU HAVE FEED THE DOG YOU KNOW, A LITTLE WATER, NICE DOGGIE , A LITTLE PET HERE, STROKE THERE, OR YOUR LITTLE PETS OR GOING TO ALL WANDER OFF AND FIND NEW HOMES, IN CASE YOU HAVE NOT NOTICED…. ;) WHICH I KNOW YOU HAVE BECAUSE I HAVE BEEN A PROPER ANIMAL ACTIVIST FIGHTING FOR THEIR RIGHTS. :) SO, WHERE IS THAT BONE YOU WERE GOING TO THROW – RUSHDOG??

    BARK BARK! “twitter twitter, there, twitter twitter over there, twitter twitter everywhere,twitter twitter everywhere, everywhere , but HERE ! ”

    LOL ;) You seem to be doing well, YES? dear one?

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  799. Kate said on October 11th, 2012 at 2:05 pm

    okay I am starting to feel like Norma Rae, lol, on the run today ! too busy to even make a proper post.lol Have a nice day ladies. If nagging does not work, maybe chanting his name. Men like to hear their name, don’t they?

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  800. Up the Coast said on October 11th, 2012 at 2:48 pm

    @Kate:
    All Ange needs is a t-shirt and some blood ;) and voila! Instant wedding dress. The kids can follow her lead and make their own wedding wear with their blood :shock: It’s all about the family, for Brad afterall.
    I was wondering about his hair in that picture with the eyepatch too! Is that a wig? Is his longish hair a wig?
    Perception IS reality…and in that interview/photo shoot he comes off sounding/looking like a major douche! Again!

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  801. Guest1 said on October 11th, 2012 at 3:42 pm

    I think I’m going to throw up:

    His missus, ANGELINA JOLIE, must have a thing for accents. Ange and Brad have just spent £25,000 converting an old fisherman’s cottage, in the grounds of their estate in the South of France, into their own sex grotto.
    A source said: “As well as being sound-proofed, it’s got a bed, a sex swing with stirrups and a chest full of goodies. They disappear down there, telling their kids they’re going out for some fresh air.
    “Brad comes back looking like the cat that got the cream and they are giggly for the rest of the day.”

    http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/showbiz/bizarre/4583142/brad-pitt-wants-to-play-scouse-or-brummie-in-next-movie.html

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  802. Up the Coast said on October 11th, 2012 at 3:56 pm

    @Guest1:
    That first sentence doesn’t even make sense……so it must be a fax from Ange :lol: IF true, what a shame that they have to go to all that extreme just to get their rocks off….tsk, tsk, what freaks.

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  803. WCKitty said on October 11th, 2012 at 4:07 pm

    @Guest1:
    Oh yuck, and IMO it is TMI. Then again, why would there be a fisherman’s cottage at the estate when it is nowhere near the ocean, lake, or river? An article put out to make people believe that they are still into each other despite the “no wedding?”

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  804. Guest1 said on October 11th, 2012 at 4:15 pm

    Where is french chick when we need her?

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  805. WCKitty said on October 11th, 2012 at 4:36 pm

    @Dream:
    My son surprised me last night by renting the movie Dark Shadows. I don’t know how it compared to the television show, but I thought it was a really good movie.

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  806. Patty Anne said on October 11th, 2012 at 5:23 pm

    Oh my goodness, what a horrible visual that story gives me:

    Naked…..skeleton like arms and legs ending with long, skinny flipperlike appendages…..flopping around…..with swollen anus-lips swearing in French ( she claims to be able to speak the language now) …all the while holding a couple of knives in her lover’s direction. Her lover attempts to see where she is in the cottage, but his Hash clouded brain keeps leading him in the wrong directions which brings forth more curses and threats from the naked skeleton woman with the anus lips……she reaches for him to guide him toward where she is dangling but losese her grip on the greasy long hair…..they give up, make up a story to claim great passion and light up their bongs. Yea, that’s great to have a sex grotto on the family’s homestead. Poor kiddies. @Guest1:

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  807. Up the Coast said on October 11th, 2012 at 5:24 pm

    @WCKitty:
    +1 Good point.

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  808. WCKitty said on October 11th, 2012 at 5:37 pm

    @Patty Anne:
    :lol:

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  809. Up the Coast said on October 11th, 2012 at 5:38 pm

    @Patty Anne:
    Two giant egos in one small room….they might as well just do themselves :lol:

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  810. janindisguise said on October 11th, 2012 at 5:44 pm

    @Guest2:

    Aniston hair care pic:

    http://shine.yahoo.com/work-money/jennifer-aniston-8217-living-proof-hair-care-deal-151600908.html

    Please – - what is WRONG with her neck????????????????

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  811. Patty Anne said on October 11th, 2012 at 6:16 pm

    Truth be known, they probably do~!@Up the Coast:

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  812. Patty Anne said on October 11th, 2012 at 6:17 pm

    It’s simply a strand of her hair laying across her throat. :-) @janindisguise:

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  813. Guest2 said on October 11th, 2012 at 6:28 pm

    Way too many visuals here today and not good ones. See ya later.

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  814. WCKitty said on October 11th, 2012 at 6:55 pm

    I don’t know if this is true, but maybe someone else who is in the business may have some input.
    http://www.femalefirst.co.uk/board/viewtopic.php?f=40&t=331633

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  815. Kate said on October 11th, 2012 at 7:56 pm

    @WCKitty:
    @WCKitty:
    I believe that comment “so who does a girl have to xx to get a job in this town” was made at a Oscar party, to a group of directors, joking, with affection, they laughed.and all said, “me”. Her concern was offers would slow down as she ages. I think Cam was a guess, and a few other fu.ny girls in their 30’s. I can’t imagine she would be blaclusted over leg gate and drinking when in the past they have hired sitters to make sure she stayed off hard drugs while filming, ate healthy, etc, and in some cases, some studios, provide drugs. (Not saying to her), but those ate very lightweight reasons to blacklist an actress. Now if she came out as a staunch Republican, lol, she might be. not kidding. They have stood behind child molesters and rapist.

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  816. haki said on October 11th, 2012 at 8:08 pm

    @ Patty Anne
    LOL!!!!!!

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  817. Guest1 said on October 11th, 2012 at 11:04 pm

    The blind was from blindgossip from February. Cameron Diaz turned 40 in August, so saying ‘even though she is only in her thirties’ makes me think it is not Cameron:

    “While many people use Oscar parties as an opportunity to network, this well-known film actress just took it to a whole new level. After a few drinks, she started getting very bold in her approach of directors who might be amenable to hiring her. Even though she is only in her thirties, she is concerned that her offers are going to slow down as she ages, and she wants it to be known that she is willing to do whatever she needs to do to continue to get cast in good projects. To that end, she would walk up to a director, playfully throw an arm around his shoulders, and pose the following question: “So, who does a girl have to f*ck around here to get a job?” Fortunately for her, more than one director answered, “Me.”"

    I can imagine there could be many reasons for AJ to be blacklisted. There has to be a reason why several directors have backed out of working with her.

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  818. Guest1 said on October 11th, 2012 at 11:32 pm

    Watching Chelsea Lately. They just had a promotion for her blow out week next week in her new studio. JA is one of the guests with “her first post-engagement interview.” Not sure what night she will be on.

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  819. Siska said on October 12th, 2012 at 7:06 am

    @Kate:I agree..I don’t think is cam or angie..but who knows?

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  820. Siska said on October 12th, 2012 at 7:08 am

    @Guest2:yep,,the celeb is smart on taking the money,,that’s why image and pr is essential for them.
    I saw the picture of Jen ring more clear there. It’s simple but big

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  821. Siska said on October 12th, 2012 at 7:12 am

    The scientist found a new planet mad entirely of diamond,and most of the article also mention Jen with her giant diamond ring,,sort of make a joke about it..he.,he
    Anyway,,I think Jen always like to associate herself with scientific stuff..she admit that she love watching medical or science stuff when she was little ( her parent restrict her of watching fun stuff in tv)

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  822. Siska said on October 12th, 2012 at 7:13 am

    I wish I can watching her here.@Guest1:

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  823. Guest2 said on October 12th, 2012 at 7:15 am

    @Siska:
    I don’t think it’s them either only because I think those two don’t have to ask, they already know who to xx.

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  824. Siska said on October 12th, 2012 at 7:51 am

    @Guest2:ha.ha..cheeky girl

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  825. Siska said on October 12th, 2012 at 7:52 am

    I’m gonna try to locate the living proof product,,my hair really dry out..specially after colouring,..

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  826. frenchchick @work said on October 12th, 2012 at 9:13 am

    @Guest1:
    Here ! But what ? :)

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  827. Guest1 said on October 12th, 2012 at 10:54 am

    @frenchchick @work:
    Any insight into them ‘converting an old fisherman’s cottage, in the grounds of their estate in the South of France, into their own sex grotto’? Is it possible they even have a fisherman’s cottage at Miraval? Any more details on the renovations – or reverse renovations – at the Chateau?

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  828. anon said on October 12th, 2012 at 12:18 pm

    NEW THREAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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  829. Kate said on October 12th, 2012 at 12:55 pm

    @Siska:
    I don’t think it is Cam either, I was commenting on who some of the popular guesses were from my memory. I think Kate Hudson was mentioned and Charlize Theron, because of one her roles in film as a huntsman and the title to it had the word hunting in it. No idea who it is, but it came from BG, and from what I remember he does not like Jen, loves Brange, hates TOMMY boy. lol..and is often wrong. I don’t read there anymore after his tasteless April Fool’s blinds, but I see his blinds posted at other places. He also changes the wording to blinds he posts from other sites, or a staff member does, which use ro be pointed out to him , and never corrected.

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  830. Up the Coast said on October 12th, 2012 at 1:29 pm

    @Guest2:
    :lol: touche!

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  831. frenchchick @work said on October 15th, 2012 at 11:12 am

    @Guest1:
    No news about that. It’s still rather plain that they have to put the property back to its prior state.

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