IUC World Exclusive: Betting On Brangelina…How Long Will It Last?

Posted on July 11th, 2012 by HisHighness in IUC:Bits, IUC:Entertainment, IUC:Exclusive

Now that Tomkat and the Depps are toast, the status of one notorious Hollywood couple remains under a microscope. I still predict they will split, sooner than later. What is your take? How long will this lovey dovey last?inglorious basterds premiere arrivals 7 110809

This in from a source close to the couple. “They certainly have their business together,” the source told IUC. “If they split they would lose a fortune. They’re worth much more together and they are acutely aware of it. Brangelina is a world brand, just like Kelloggs and Coca Cola.”

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  1. sinker said on July 11th, 2012 at 12:18 pm

    Unfortunately, don’t think this boring couple will ever split their business / brand, mainly because they have made the rainbow family just a big part of the brand. I think they will continue their fakery til the end and when one of them gets papped making out with someone else, they will say they have an open relationship. Yawn.

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  2. Up the Coast said on July 11th, 2012 at 12:19 pm

    Thanks Ian :) Finally, a regular thread ;) Maybe Ange is worth more when she’s with Brad, but I think she’s dragging Brad down. I still believe that when they seperate, HW will welcome Brad back into the fold and maybe even give him the Oscar he wants so badly. HW is over Ange.

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  3. sinker said on July 11th, 2012 at 12:20 pm

    I say unfortunately mostly because a gigantic contentious split would be so very much fun to watch. I actually think they deserve to live in the misery they have created together forever… as long as the kids have some way to be kept safe or escape.

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  4. Up the Coast said on July 11th, 2012 at 12:31 pm

    @sinker:
    I agree! Sadly, for the kids….having a psychopath for a mother has already damaged them, so keeping them safe is the best Brad could hope for, at this point.

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  5. sociapathicmetaphor said on July 11th, 2012 at 12:42 pm

    I hope they split up I’m so sick of them. They are getting old and no one cares anymore fuck the “brand”. On to the next please!!

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  6. Patty Anne said on July 11th, 2012 at 1:06 pm

    “If they split they would lose a fortune. They’re worth much more together and they are acutely aware of it. Brangelina is a world brand, just like Kelloggs and Coca Cola.” So, they would sell out their children’s mental health and welfare, their personal happiness, their integrity – for money? Well that says a lot of negative things about them both. How much is enough? Again, no boundaries and Brad is as guilty of perpetuating this circus as she is. It’s my personal opinion that it’s past time to separate and to begin to concentrate on the children’s needs. How much money have they put into irrevocable trusts for each child I wonder, considering they have worked for the money posing on demand for the paparazzi, same as Brad and Angie. Are they being looked after for their future ? The whole world is fully aware they are milking the public for financial gain as they flaunt their extravagant lifestyle while the kids are shown dressed in hand-me-downs, or looking dirty and bedraggled. It’s past time they called it quits officially and it is expected.

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  7. rushdog said on July 11th, 2012 at 1:44 pm

    I think it’s very interesting that KH was able to file for divorce and settle so quickly. She must have something big on TC or his “religion” to have achieved this. And to me this says something about The Brand. If these riddles and other gossip, and a fair amount of photo speculation, is to be believed and BP’s wanted out for a long time then why not make the same move? Probably because they each have dirt on the other so it ends up in a nasty chess game.

    Would The Brand “lose a fortune” or lose a fortune in potential income? If we’re talking money then seems like it would be the latter. How very shallow and to no surprise. These two clowns have never been what they’ve been marketed to be. Sold out to the devil indeed.

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  8. Guest2 said on July 11th, 2012 at 1:51 pm

    They’ve sold their souls to the money devil and will probably not split for a long time, at least until the brand no longer makes money for them. She a crazy beeotch and he’s a self-centered a–hole so they probably are made for each other. I don’t buy the poor brad can’t get away from the evil witch stuff anymore. If he wanted to leave he’d leave. They both work the brand to their advantage (including the kids) when it serves their purposes so to me they’re just another HW contractual arrangement. I don’t think I’ll ever get that cannes 2011 image of mr. and mrs. god out of my head. He’s as big a fameho and manipulator as she is. I don’t care if he never gets an oscar, he’s a mediocre actor at best and doesn’t deserve it for any of his performances to date. They are becoming old and boring. In 5 years no one will give a sh*t about them. jmo at this time. But still, where is brad? We haven’t seen him in almost a month.

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  9. Joannab said on July 11th, 2012 at 2:15 pm

    Thanks Ian , I think I prefered the clues where we had to think and guess , bit deflated now as everyone kinda knows they only stay together for the brand any juicy gossip lol ??????

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  10. rushdog said on July 11th, 2012 at 2:25 pm

    The Popular Katie Holmes
    July 11, 2012Posted at 11:40 AM
    Posted by Lainey

    “Two months ago Katie Holmes was a dead-eyed joke. Do not pretend you don’t remember it. But it’s getting harder and harder to remember it, isn’t it? In two weeks Katie Holmes has gone from robot to independent asskicker. It’s an extraordinary image overhaul, similar perhaps to Angelina Jolie’s. And over a shorter amount of time. Like Angelina though, it’s now time to exploit and brand. Why not take advantage?”…

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  11. WR said on July 11th, 2012 at 2:54 pm

    1)-A year ago, Brad Pitt announced his retirement in three years. Two more to go! Will he keep his word? Has he ever? Will the woman in him change her mind? Will he hold his breath until Hw gives him an (undeserved) oscar?
    2)-They are no longer so young. The public wonders about the kids. It knows it takes an awful lot of nurturing from their guardians/parents to raise them successfully. Blind luck could help them, especially if the kids are peddled as moneymakers in show-biz. (The Brand continues!)
    3)-Who would be their “beards” if they split? (They’d no longer have a strangle-hold on the media).

    JMO!

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  12. payal said on July 11th, 2012 at 3:20 pm

    but is it?!? they arent worth shit anymore!

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  13. Guest1 said on July 11th, 2012 at 3:35 pm

    Copies of the Jolie-Pitt Foundation tax form 990PF are online from 2006-2010. Neither Pitt or Jolie made a contribution to the foundation in 2009 and 2010. The 990PF for 2010 states that the assets year end were $3,630,180. From what I could find online, in 2011 they made the following contributions from the foundation:

    Community Foundation of the Ozarks – $500,000.00
    Namibian sanctuary – $2,000,000
    children left homeless in war-ravaged ¬Somalia – $340,000

    If neither Jolie or Pitt made a contribution to the foundation in 2011, the foundation would have approximately $790,000 left. Considering the operating expenses for 2010 were slightly over $1,000,000, you have to wonder if they are liquidating the trust in anticipation of a split.

    You can look up the 990PF’s at the following site:

    http://dynamodata.fdncenter.org/990s/990search/esearch.php

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  14. whatever said on July 11th, 2012 at 3:36 pm

    Forbes listed Brad Pitt and Angelina as a corporation in 2011.

    When stock in a corporation is no longer being purchased, the corporation dissolves.

    Brad Pitt and Angelina Jolie, are sold as stock, just like every other Hollywood Actor and Actress…on HSX.com…go check it out. The higher the stock the higher an actor/actress can negotiate a contract with the studio. They’re stock is slipping, and day by day, it goes lower and lower. What that means is how “marketable” they are to the public.

    I think Brad was still caught up in a web, not of his choosing, but he went along with it, when he seen how much public adoration he was getting, and the power behind it. Soon ALL of his movies were being green lit by the studio’s. He was moving away from that “pretty boy” image, and into a serious actor and producer, he was also being nominated for all these prestigious awards, something that he didn’t have much of in the past.

    Angelina Jolie…of course, had her star go from B- list, to A list…and together they became the “it” couple in Hollywood. Media couldn’t write enough BS glowing stories about their humanitarianism, etc. Media kept shoving these two down our throats. Shiloh’s birth, was epic. These two were on top.

    However, it was/is all smoke and mirrors. Their box office records were not reflecting their A list status.
    They were on top of their game between the years of 2006-2009. Then a shift began. Not only with the media, but with the public at large. Hollywood is starting to learn that their public persona doesn’t reflect at the box office. In fact, it is now a detriment to both of their careers. The over saturation, the PR, and the constant media trying to shove this “perfect pairing” down our throats with their brood, has turned the majority of the public off of them. Like someone stated, “If they can see you in the media all week long, these same people are not going to buy tickets to your movies on the weekend”. This is the basic undoing of Brand called Brangelina.

    Today, Brad nor Angelina can get parts in movies unless they PAY their way in. Brad has to produce a movie to get a role..aka, putting HIMSELF into roles. Angelina can’t get roles either. Last year she resorted to hiring a talent agency to find her work in indie movies. The best they could come up with is Maleficent. No…other Hollywood Actor or Actress or even DIRECTOR is willing to work with her. She was turned down by Ridley Scott, Luc Besson, Tim Burton left Maleficent because he didn’t want to work with her. She tried and FAILED at ‘writing”, directing, and producing a War/Rape/Love story. Brad only can get roles not that are more of less cameo’s, because I believe he is financially strapped, and can’t afford to buy into a big production movie anymore….if WWZ fails at the Box office, Brad IS going to be the scapegoat for it….as it’s already been written.

    I’ve said for many years, that the only way Brad is going to stick around if the BRAND is still successful, once he sees that it’s costing him, professionally, he’ll boot. I think the unraveling is coming now….he knows it……he’s one time hot career is taking a hit. They are now trying a new stunt of not being seen as much. But its a little to late. Their engagement was more or less met with a “MEH”, and “Just do it already”……He won’t marry her, but he will use the “promise for the future” pr for all its worth, which isn’t much.

    I think with Plagiarism-gate, Leg-gate, Mick-Jagger gate, and Mom-gate, they are taking hits…from the public at large….That’s why Brad is in hiding…that’s his M.O. When shit hits the fan, he goes into hiding.

    Yes the sands are a shifting. Who would of thought 7 yrs ago, that Jennifer Aniston would be on top and these two sinking into quick sand?? Certainly NOT me.

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  15. Patty Anne said on July 11th, 2012 at 3:45 pm

    Bravo, very well said and I totally agree with every word.@whatever:

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  16. simms said on July 11th, 2012 at 3:50 pm

    Ians not even bothering with riddles and clues anymore about the brand.
    Just that there next, to complete the trio of breakups.pitt has been mia maybe
    cos jolies wrking hes doing his thing and having some major fun.2012 seems to
    be the year of the major celeb breakups.

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  17. joanne said on July 11th, 2012 at 4:18 pm

    They deserve each other.

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  18. whatever said on July 11th, 2012 at 4:27 pm

    @simms:

    I don’t know IF they are next perse, but I don’t think there is going to be a wedding, between them. I think Brad is going to stall this one out for years. I still ain’t buying into that he designed a ring for her, and that he proposed at Christmas….and these are the reasons why.

    1.) They wouldn’t of passed up a chance to flaunt this supposed ring/engagement all through award season.
    2.) She would of worn that ring, while promoting her movie, In the land of blood and honey.
    3.) No man who is IN LOVE and really wants to marry his g/f of 7 years, doesn’t make a statement that “It just made sense”, when asked why after all this time he has proposed.
    4.) No man who’s is IN LOVE and really wants to marry his g/f of 7 yrs, doesn’t make a statement through his PR manager, that IT is only a “promise for the future”.
    5.) No man who is in LOVE and really wants to marry his g/f of 7 yrs, makes statements that HE wants marriage equality FIRST for everyone, BEFORE he is willing to marry his g/f, ESPECIALLY when this didn’t stop him from marrying in the past.
    6.) She wore that ring, KNOWING she was going to get photographed with it, and it was HER jeweler that announced the engagement. Not her. NOT together as a couple.
    7.) Brad has never spoken the words, the reason why I want to marry her, is because I love her, I want her to be my wife. No what he makes statements like the kids are pressuring me to buy their mommy a ring…and IF it’s important to the kids that we wed, then we will. HUH?? You let your children make life altering decisions for YOU as adults and parents?? WTF?

    So I don’t think they will be breaking up anytime soon. However, I don’t think they’ll last 1-2 more years….both look unhappy and resentful. She is nothing but stick and bones, and he looks like a drunken bum that you would find on any street corner, in a large city of the USA.

    I think Jane’s little letter, was her way of telling Brad she is not on board with this supposed wedding….as she doesn’t want or support same sex marriage. It was a FU to Angelina. The timing is very suspicious, as she has never been vocal before about politics. Especially when Angelina dragged Pitt to visit Obama at the White house….while she was doing her little promotion for ITLOBAH. Oh and that visit came AFTER Jane and Bill were on hand at the L.A. premiere of her movie. I bet those scenes in that movie stopped her little southern baptist/christian heart….and she seen right then and there, that her son was trapped into a relationship with a NYMPHO, and a PSYCHO……

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  19. whatever said on July 11th, 2012 at 4:32 pm

    Oh I forgot one ..

    8. It seems suspicious that she came out sporting that huge diamond ring, right after the Oscars and leg-gate that was making her a laughingstock world-wide. I think it was her trying to get the media off of that, and onto something positive. So she took a ring, from her jeweler and placed in on her left hand, and while DUH-PITT had no idea what she was doing, he was tricked once again……

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  20. x said on July 11th, 2012 at 4:54 pm

    in this pic, does it look like she’s simulating ahem oral for brad? it does to me.

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  21. Tetta said on July 11th, 2012 at 6:01 pm

    Is it really any of us who cares about Brad and Angelina anymore ? With “us” I mean the guests who came here on regular basis. Personally I have very hard to see them as a brand making big money. Even if all people isn´t as updated as we are about them and how their careers seem to go downward, anyone who sees a photo of them together or separately must see how worn out they are. They use the same tactic for all times something bad happens, from leg-gate to Jane Pitt´s letter, they just stay silent and turn up again like nothing has happened. One day, when “The Brand” isn´t worth anymore money it would be interesting to read an analyze about the phenomena.

    What I also find odd is that Ian writes “How long will it last ” when he has claimed they are over since long ago. At least I believe that is what the clues have meant.

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  22. Tetta said on July 11th, 2012 at 6:53 pm

    @Tetta:

    When we get a new clue it´s so easy to forget the last one. I´m curious about what connection Brad and Jennifer have. When Payal asked Ian he answered “always”. What could that be ? Is it sweet memories or something more tangible ?

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  23. janindisguise said on July 11th, 2012 at 7:18 pm

    You know all that talk like: Jane Pitt could be in danger after making such comments about Mr. Obama, etc. etc.

    Well go here and see some of the illuminati-related families. I repeat: “some” of the fams. Please notice the Pitts and their familial relationships:

    The Ties That Surprise

    forum.actionparty.ca/forum/Truth…/3447-The-Ties-That-Surprise.ht…

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  24. janindisguise said on July 11th, 2012 at 7:34 pm

    Oopsie.

    http://forum.actionparty.ca/forum/Truth-Action/3447-The-Ties-That-Surprise.html

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  25. Up the Coast said on July 11th, 2012 at 7:35 pm

    @janindisguise:
    :lol: That’s a weird mix of people…

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  26. janindisguise said on July 11th, 2012 at 7:37 pm

    So since these “elite” (I will forever find that description of these illuminatis backwards) families are related, although distantly, they like to “keep it in the family” if you know what I mean. So, I doubt if the pres is going to do anything to Jane Pitt, you know? What a bunch of absolute h _ _ rse shiz.

    You would really freak if you read the British monarchy family stuff.

    Okay then just wanted to share that.

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  27. Up the Coast said on July 11th, 2012 at 7:43 pm

    I agree with everything whatever said. joLIE wasn’t/isn’t a great actress…it’s always been about scandal with her, that’s what she’s known for, not her talent. Brad was the bigger star, at the time they hooked up, but he has always been a hanger-on, imo, and he’s hooked up with bigger celebs than himself, prior to Jen. Both of them are famewhores….there doesn’t seem to be anything sincere about either one of them. By the time people reach their age, they have their own “style” :shock: Look at their style…it’s very telling.

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  28. siska said on July 11th, 2012 at 8:08 pm

    @Tetta:i have to answer this ,and sorry if I offended anyone.
    The brand is still matter,we still care cause we still talk about it,the media and fans still talk about it.
    They will continue on mostly because they have family and they have their brand.
    As much we want to discredit them,i honestly think they still human being who love their kids and once fallen in love.
    They might have their problem,but they still together.
    Even ted awful truth admit that they are genuine couple with fiery passion and angie who wore the pants.
    But I also admit that the way brad dragging the marriage for so long specially with marriage equality stuff show disrespect to the woman he suppose to love and mother of his6 kids.

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  29. siska said on July 11th, 2012 at 8:18 pm

    For dream
    I am with you,i love foreign movies also,they have some great stories.
    I think hw movie like the independent one,actually quite entertain,but the blockbuster one,sometime a bit boring.
    But I will recommend Ted.,if you like rude comedy,its funniet than hangover.

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  30. whatever said on July 11th, 2012 at 8:20 pm

    @Tetta:

    A “brand” needs to constantly updating or designing something new, to stay relevant. Like Apple….
    How many kids can they adopt/birth, how many “scandals” that comes out about Jolie, or how many pictures of her doing her humanitarian work or see them with the kids going to the movies, toy stores, museums, etc…, that we have witnessed over the years?? It’s become monotonous.

    They have NOTHING new to offer, and that is why the BRAND is going down hill. Their movies are nothing to write home about. He’s picking movies that have more of a preaching tone to them, than actual entertainment. People take offense to be preached at how bad the USA is by some two bit spoiled rich Hollywood actor, who doesn’t walk the talk. NAME one movie that either one of them is going to be remembered for, as being the BEST movie the world has ever seen. Nada.

    They tried with the publicity stunt of getting “engaged”, and that went over like a lead fart.

    So what can they do now, to keep on top of the game?? To stay relevant?? To sell their movies to the masses?? Nothing…they’ve over-saturated themselves so much ,the majority of the public is bored with both of them….

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  31. siska said on July 11th, 2012 at 8:25 pm

    The way hw pr work really is similar,when there is scandal, or project to promote suddenly their star more visible and friendly to paps.
    Example jane pitt comment,suddenly angie with kids(she seem to knew that with kids make her appearance more press worthy ) out and about.
    But brad is in hiding?..he suppose to join angie style,because it made him the target of speculation.
    I read that jane got targeted of threats and hate email. Its sad. Everyone should have freedom of speech.

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  32. siska said on July 11th, 2012 at 8:33 pm

    @whatever
    I like your facts about how brad seem reluctant to get hitch again and I found it a bit disrespectful to his partner,andi also wonder why angie is so skinny.
    But I stiil believe the brand still had power. People still fascinating about them,they star power is still strong,specially overseas.
    The leg gate,the engagement, boring marriage,are some of new tricks to make them stay at the top,remember angie and her team is very clever in spinning stuff in media. They are pro.
    Thats why they still top earner in forbes list.

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  33. whatever said on July 11th, 2012 at 8:49 pm

    siska said on July 11th, 2012 at 8:33 pm

    @whatever
    I like your facts about how brad seem reluctant to get hitch again and I found it a bit disrespectful to his partner,andi also wonder why angie is so skinny.
    But I stiil believe the brand still had power. People still fascinating about them,they star power is still strong,specially overseas.
    The leg gate,the engagement, boring marriage,are some of new tricks to make them stay at the top,remember angie and her team is very clever in spinning stuff in media. They are pro.
    Thats why they still top earner in forbes list.

    MY reply:

    Thank you…..I just call it as I see it….and IF I were Angelina and my supposed fiance was going out once again, stating HE won’t marry me, and state those reasons, that ring would of been tossed back in his face…..but HEY that’s just me.

    Oh I believe the “Brand” still has power, but it’s not coming from inside Hollywood.

    Yep they can play all the “tricks” they want, it still won’t result in the bottom line, meaning in box office returns.

    She is still a top earner. He isn’t. Although I believe it is HER pr, that keeps her there by lying about her income…..but again that is just MY opinion.

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  34. joanne said on July 11th, 2012 at 10:30 pm

    @janindisguise:
    So they are all inbred. figures.

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  35. joanne said on July 11th, 2012 at 10:34 pm

    @janindisguise:
    they keep us under control by arguing with others. You read the blogs and people get downright nasty. everyone things they are right and their party is right when there really isn’t any parties at all. Just a ruse to keep people from getting together. How else can they control the masses? Hate and keeping us scared worked for over 50 years and it looks like its still working.

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  36. joanne said on July 11th, 2012 at 10:34 pm

    @joanne:
    Hate and fear. Its getting old.

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  37. haki said on July 11th, 2012 at 11:54 pm

    lI don’t know what’s going on with these two, but Lately Angelina Jolie has been looking really bad!!

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  38. janindisguise said on July 12th, 2012 at 12:12 am

    @joanne:
    Attempting to divide and conquer us – with ANYthing – lately it’s “racism” – now isn’t that a tired word these days? I refuse to be affected by it. I don’t entertain that mess and I pray that others don’t either. It’s a division contrived by the “Masters” – always was. And false flags – when they say look to the right – we better be looking to the left because it’s to the left that they don’t want us to see.

    Dems and Repubs – they are the same. Another form of division. Their masters are the same – illuminati and NWO. Time is getting away and things are escalating. I have but one consolation: that I surrendered to the Most High God and nothing happens without his permission and without Him providing a way out. (Ending a bad note with the Good One y’all)

    Love and hugs to all,

    J

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  39. joanne said on July 12th, 2012 at 2:06 am

    @janindisguise:
    It will end on a good note but not yet.
    I think the brand is just about ready to go bankrupt.

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  40. WR said on July 12th, 2012 at 2:58 am

    This term is new to me: “Charity Chic!”. It means that a celeb publicly donates to charitable causes so as to boost their career and image.

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  41. Angelina Jolie said on July 12th, 2012 at 6:16 am

    We are truly madly deeply in love. We will never split!!

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  42. P. Gold said on July 12th, 2012 at 6:38 am

    @haki:

    I agree with you. I was just looking at a youtube of Alexander ( just an sort of interview/show ) and she looked stunning, sexy and all her gestures were very sexy. I was mesmerised by her looks. Her hair was thick and soft and her face and complexion were superb. I even like how she was dressed in black top and jeans. I admit it was no wonder men fell for her but she has look so terrible lately. It’s shocking in the change in 10 years. I know many people aging better just like Jen, so I find it shocking .

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  43. whatever said on July 12th, 2012 at 12:30 pm

    @P. Gold:

    Yes visually she was stunning. Unfortunately she can’t act out of a paper bag…..

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  44. whatever said on July 12th, 2012 at 12:32 pm

    oops I sent before I was done.

    She depended on her “looks”, her “wild side”, and her sexy action heroine image. Now all three are gone, and there is no room in Hollywood for her..

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  45. Up the Coast said on July 12th, 2012 at 1:18 pm

    Brad needs to come out of hiding soon, and defend his mother’s right to an opinion!!! Doug has spoken about it and now Jon Voight has too! Come on Brad, grow a pair, be a man :evil: Your mom deserves to be defended by your sorry ass.

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  46. whatever said on July 12th, 2012 at 1:29 pm

    @Up the Coast:

    He won’t come out and do any such thing. Although he has a movie coming out in 2 months, I am sure whatever interviews that will take place to promote it, he will be asked questions regarding it….

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  47. haki said on July 12th, 2012 at 1:32 pm

    She was looking so gorgeous during the “Alexander” promotions! Now she looks so skinny and so different!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7LiFs5ddFBo

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  48. Up the Coast said on July 12th, 2012 at 1:51 pm

    @whatever:
    And by then, he’ll just blow it off like it’s no big deal…but imo, watching your mother being lambasted in the media is a HUGE thing. By NOT saying anything, it says MORE about BPitt than anything he might eventually say. Just when I thought I couldn’t be more disgusted by his sorry ass….

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  49. Guest2 said on July 12th, 2012 at 2:15 pm

    @Up the Coast:
    He won’t come out and defend her. He’s probably ticked off at her for embarrassing him. That’s what I think of him, it’s all about brad.

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  50. Up the Coast said on July 12th, 2012 at 2:40 pm

    @Guest2:
    The “twins” turn 4 today…so we should be hearing from his sorry ass soon.

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  51. Tetta said on July 12th, 2012 at 2:47 pm

    @Up the Coast:

    If he can´t can come up with something own he can just say as his brother Dough did, they have different opinions. It can´t be so hard. Then Brad can say what he really thinks in private. I still think that Jane Pitt had to be prepared for the reaction, she knew what she did. And she must know about Brad´s view of gay marriages and probably also about Angelina´s rumored abortions.
    Sometimes it´s not necessary to say what you think even if you have the right to do it. It´s possible to have the discussion within the family. She could have said she didn´t support Obama in other words and kept quiet about gay marriages and abortions.

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  52. joanne said on July 12th, 2012 at 3:36 pm

    @janindisguise:
    racism isn’t new. Racism was a factor in marijuana becoming illegal.
    They need some new tricks.

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  53. joanne said on July 12th, 2012 at 3:40 pm

    @Tetta:
    it all boils down to not judging. who am i to say whats right for you? So people words things harshly (Like JP) and others answer harshly (death wishers). manners needs to come to the internet i guess.
    This should be a dead subject. do we really want bp putting his foot in his mouth again?

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  54. joanne said on July 12th, 2012 at 3:41 pm

    @joanne:
    I guess i would if I wrote for a rag mag.

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  55. WR said on July 12th, 2012 at 3:50 pm

    Jane Pitt should have spoken up when her son dumped JA with the whole world as witness. Her defense of marriage back then would have a great impact on family values. Many other opportunities were presented in the time afterward. Not a peep! But then, her son’s career may have depended on her silence.
    Since then, she must have realized that silence is not always golden. It can be deafening! She must have noted Brad’s silence as the loonies were, and are still, blogging hate for the victim of all this.
    Well, many of us agree with her current stance against gay marriage, but her son learned well; i.e. his silence while the air is filled with rancor.

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  56. Tetta said on July 12th, 2012 at 3:53 pm

    @joanne:

    As usual you express what I really want to say in a far better way than I´m able to.
    And no, we don´t want Brad to do a new odd comment. Doug has already said what is needed on a personal level. The question about death threats ought to be a general, much bigger question.

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  57. WR said on July 12th, 2012 at 4:00 pm

    Racism is tricky! One immediately thinks of racism as whites vs non-whites. But there are other aspects of racism. And it has to do with ethnic minorities all over the world. ??????? Well, when an ethnic minority puts white skin above darker shades. When they put it in practice; i.e. treating darker-skinned people as “less-than!”, and whites as superior.
    And this racism is powerful, indeed! Powerful, because it is not in the glare of public awareness! It can lurk and strike at will.

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  58. joanne said on July 12th, 2012 at 4:10 pm

    @Tetta:
    I agree. The death threats are the real issue.

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  59. joanne said on July 12th, 2012 at 4:14 pm

    @WR:
    I am glad i’m not pitt. he lost the looks and a so so actor, Hollyweird needs to stop believeing their own hype.

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  60. joanne said on July 12th, 2012 at 4:17 pm

    @WR:
    i agree, its more than just color. I am still wondering how woman became a second class citizens.

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  61. Tetta said on July 12th, 2012 at 4:25 pm

    @joanne:

    Today Brad probably wishes he wasn´t ” the Brad Pitt “. He became the star he was because of his pretty face. When he lost it things got harder. As you say Joanne, Hollyweird needs to stop believing their own hype. And they ought to learn that it´s not enough with a pretty face. As a movie star you even need some talent as an actor.

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  62. Dream said on July 12th, 2012 at 4:28 pm

    Anyone else think maybe Mrs Pitt was asked to write the letter to throw growing gay speculation off brad?

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  63. Up the Coast said on July 12th, 2012 at 4:34 pm

    @joanne:
    FEAR….that’s how.

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  64. Up the Coast said on July 12th, 2012 at 4:42 pm

    @Dream:
    I don’t. I think Jane was just responding to another letter in her local paper and joLIE took the opportunity to “use it” against her. I think it’s a generational “thing”. As I said on the last thread: Jane comes from a generation where everyone hid the truth about their homosexuality, so of course she may not even realize that she’s known gay people ALL of her life. HW is still perpetuating the stigma of being gay, and using it to control actors. There’s enough blame to go around on this subject.

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  65. Tetta said on July 12th, 2012 at 4:49 pm

    Speaking of talent. The last week it has been a lot to read about Tom Cruise. He has got a lot of criticism because of the church he belongs to. It´s a good thing the church get´s a lot of criticism because it´s a sect and the rules of this sect are unhealthy. But in many articles it´s said that TC is a good actor and people appreciate his films. This means the public can tell the difference between a good actor and his persona. If you fail both as an actor and as a person you probably ought to leave the scene.

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  66. liv4 said on July 12th, 2012 at 4:50 pm

    Wow, bohomoth is blasting Ian over at her site.

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  67. Up the Coast said on July 12th, 2012 at 4:58 pm

    @Tetta:
    Good point.

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  68. Tetta said on July 12th, 2012 at 5:02 pm

    @Dream:

    If Jane Pitt was asked to write this letter as a deflection from Brad´s sexuality it was a bad advice, at least as I see it. The rumors Brad being gay have only put more fire to the letter.

    @UTC Many people comes to Hollywood to live a free life where almost everything is accepted, except being gay. They have a hard work in front of them to change their view of homosexuality.

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  69. Up the Coast said on July 12th, 2012 at 5:08 pm

    @liv4:
    Which thread?

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  70. Up the Coast said on July 12th, 2012 at 5:09 pm

    @Tetta:
    Maybe it’s time for some honesty…to change the direction of things.

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  71. louisisanagurl said on July 12th, 2012 at 5:20 pm

    This could be a ploy to roll out the Pitt family and show their “family values” even if they don’t all agree…they are still a unit and still love each other (Mother, Father, Sons). This is in stark contrast to AJ’s family and how they relate/d to each other. This also puts a very stark contrasting view of what Jane feels and what the “Brand” has stands for. The Brand has an open relationship, AJ is admittedly bisexual and they have both been tied to the drug culture (noted with coke and frosted flakes) and they both support gay marriage. It is Jane’s right to her view as it is AJ/BP’s right to theirs, but I don’t think that if BP were gay (or at least openly enough for his mom to know) that she would put this out there. I think this is starting to set certain platforms to which the Brand will agree and disagree on some fronts…ultimately leading to them splitting ways “amicably” for the children. I think the whole BBT intro and the ring debacle are just the beginning. I think JA is out of the triangle and the Brand is redefining itself…the question is whether that is together or not. What I don’t see is how they continue to need each other for them to make money….it is almost starting to seem as if she is reverting back to her old self (which may be a good thing for her professionally) and he is getting lost in the fray…BUT I think the split for JD will ultimately be good for his career and BP will be watching closely and possibly think about how to follow in those footsteps. I am freethinking here…sorry if seems to be rambling… :-)

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  72. joanne said on July 12th, 2012 at 5:30 pm

    @Up the Coast:
    makes sense.

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  73. louisisanagurl said on July 12th, 2012 at 5:31 pm

    …it is an election year…maybe these two break ups will help enlighten them on the public opinion Polls and “campaigns” that they will use to guide thier ultimate break. They are taking notes.

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  74. louisisanagurl said on July 12th, 2012 at 5:40 pm

    Hello? I always feel like everyone runs away when I post! feeing very insecure about now… ;-)

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  75. Up the Coast said on July 12th, 2012 at 5:45 pm

    @louisisanagurl:
    I’m here (for a few minutes) and I’m thinking about what you just said……. ;) hmmm

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  76. x said on July 12th, 2012 at 5:52 pm

    @liv4:
    Bohomoth is an Angie sympathiser, from what I have read, I think she’s borderline loon…

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  77. louisisanagurl said on July 12th, 2012 at 5:53 pm

    @Up the Coast:
    Thanks UTC…i need my gurl power back…was feeling a bit needy! LOL

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  78. Up the Coast said on July 12th, 2012 at 5:55 pm

    @louisisanagurl:
    To me, the term “family values” just doesn’t work or make sense in connection with the JP’s, because they have 6 nannies and various employees that are with them constantly….they are never together as a family without these employees. I can’t even envision them picking up after themselves without HELP from an employee. Today is the twins birthday, so I would assume they would all be together today. But I doubt that joLIE baked a cake or that Brad will help decorate the table/dining room…I just don’t see these people doing anything without HELP. I can see them bossing employees around…..but it’s just not the same as doing it yourself, the way families do.

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  79. louisisanagurl said on July 12th, 2012 at 5:56 pm

    Doesn’t it look like AJ is blowing on dice in the pick (we know she isn’t)…which would lend itself to the title of betting on Brangie? Just an observation.

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  80. Tetta said on July 12th, 2012 at 5:56 pm

    @louisisanagurl:

    I´m also here. I´m thinking about Angelina ” reverting back to her own old self ” and I wonder which of her own old self ?

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  81. Up the Coast said on July 12th, 2012 at 5:59 pm

    @louisisanagurl:
    I just re-read the first part of your comment and realize you were saying….the Pitt family, not the JP’s. I don’t know if it was done intentionally, but it’s out there now isn’t it? :)

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  82. louisisanagurl said on July 12th, 2012 at 6:02 pm

    @Up the Coast:
    Exactly what I was trying to say about the dichotomy between BP’s family growing up (and to which he still shows immense affection) and his family with AJ…I think that some of what has come out in TomKat’s divorce is the difference in how they want to raise Suri…this could be an example of a platform they will disagree on in the upcoming “race”…also one that they will be noting public opinions on the matter and how best to “spin” it.

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  83. louisisanagurl said on July 12th, 2012 at 6:06 pm

    @Tetta:
    I am thinking just prior to BP but just after BBT…starting to get a better rep as a “better, but not good” girl and still had the mother thing working for her…

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  84. Up the Coast said on July 12th, 2012 at 6:16 pm

    @louisisanagurl:
    I think she should have stopped there…now she’s out of control, and will never be able to handle the kids on her own.

    I’m off to dinner….bbl

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  85. Tetta said on July 12th, 2012 at 6:21 pm

    @louisisanagurl:

    Ok, I understand ! Back then she seemed to be a better her old self :)

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  86. Tetta said on July 12th, 2012 at 6:24 pm

    @Up the Coast:

    Don´t forget the armadas of nannies and bodyguards !

    Now it´s past midnight where I live so I say Good Night to all of you !

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  87. liv4 said on July 12th, 2012 at 7:04 pm

    @Up the Coast:
    It is under “Tom Cruise is mad as hell and isn’t going to take it.” About halfway down she expounds and pats herself on the back for owning a news agency that supplies photos and stories to major outlets and then she starts in on Ian – his book and site. She just wants us to be riled and comment and I’m not going to do it as I don’t like to be baited. I’ll vote for Ian any day.

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  88. Capri said on July 12th, 2012 at 7:32 pm

    Perhaps I see more into the timing of Jane’s finally stating her opinion when as someone above said that there were plenty of other important opportunities for someone of her ideals to make an impact statement. Funny that Brad is thought to be in NOLa, a hop skip and jump from dear Mom and if it were a normal family one would expect that he would have stopped to see the Missouri family before filming started or during his time off or perhaps they would have visited him in Nola. I’m a suspicious cuss who wonders if or how Mom’s opinions can benefit passive agressive Pitt. She has always shown up when he needed her most for every photo op, I just don’t see this as any different. Just because it hasn’t been clear as yet how this would benefit him, in my mind, doesn’t mean that it doesn’t.

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  89. Dream said on July 12th, 2012 at 9:01 pm

    @liv4:
    i guess that what it takes to get hits?

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  90. Dream said on July 12th, 2012 at 9:10 pm

    @louisisanagurl:
    i love ur posts wish u posted more. mine are crap so been trying to keep my mouth shut from time to time.

    isn’t today the twins bday. i remember they ahd the same as me i think. well happy birthday knox and viv!!!

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  91. WCKitty said on July 12th, 2012 at 9:17 pm

    Happy Birthday Dream!!! (if I read your post correctly). I like your posts. :)

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  92. Dream said on July 12th, 2012 at 9:23 pm

    @WCKitty:
    ty my sister sent me a box of my fav cookies with a note that said do not share lol.

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  93. Guest2 said on July 12th, 2012 at 9:25 pm

    @liv4:
    I agree. I think that blogger is full of herself and the posters are nasty. I’d rather be entertained by Ian’s riddles than read those boring threads about louboutins and jimmy choos. Her posts about celebs are pretty much a rehash of what’s been written elsewhere though there were a couple of funny posts about brangie. Best to just ignore.

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  94. WCKitty said on July 12th, 2012 at 9:27 pm

    @Dream:
    I love cookies!!! What kind are you not supposed to share? :lol:

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  95. Guest2 said on July 12th, 2012 at 9:27 pm

    @Dream:
    Happy birthday, Dream! Another moonchild, yay.

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  96. WCKitty said on July 12th, 2012 at 9:39 pm

    @Guest2:
    Does anyone know who she is? She is probably reading here to find out the posters from this site’s reaction. After all, she said that she knew that Angie read what was written here. :roll:

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  97. Up the Coast said on July 12th, 2012 at 9:41 pm

    @Tetta:
    Good night Tetta!

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  98. Up the Coast said on July 12th, 2012 at 9:42 pm

    @liv4:
    I’ll check it out, but I would also vote for Ian anyday. He isn’t a negative bitch :lol:

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  99. Dream said on July 12th, 2012 at 9:44 pm

    @WCKitty:
    @Guest2:
    oatmeal scottys my favs. she bakes them for my bday every yr.
    sends them with a pretty glass and a bag of instant milk so i get milk and cookies in the mail lol.

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  100. Dream said on July 12th, 2012 at 9:47 pm

    @WCKitty:
    I thought that was funny.
    so what i got this week is old story ian told us is now a news story and
    ian telling us angie reads here is backed up.
    umm if these folks are trying to discredit him maybe they need to look up the word.

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  101. WCKitty said on July 12th, 2012 at 9:47 pm

    @Dream:
    Those sound delicious!!! What a thoughtful and yummy gift! It sounds like you have a wonderful sister. :)

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  102. Up the Coast said on July 12th, 2012 at 9:57 pm

    @Dream:
    Happy Birthday Dream…..and 50 yrs ago today, the Stones performed for the first time! :)

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  103. WCKitty said on July 12th, 2012 at 10:00 pm

    @Up the Coast:
    8O

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  104. Up the Coast said on July 12th, 2012 at 10:02 pm

    @Capri:
    I am also a suspicious cuss ;) And you could be right….but I think she was simply replying to another editorial comment in her local paper. Her letter was put out there, out of context, without the first letter that she was replying to.

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  105. Up the Coast said on July 12th, 2012 at 10:02 pm

    @WCKitty:
    I know!!!!!!!!!!

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  106. Up the Coast said on July 12th, 2012 at 10:04 pm

    @Guest2:
    I totally agree with you. They are either very young, or totally full of shit! Either way, it doesn’t sound like any of them are getting laid :shock:

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  107. Up the Coast said on July 12th, 2012 at 10:06 pm

    I should probably mention that I just got back from dinner…..and I’m a bit ripped :lol: so my comments might be a bit willy nilly.

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  108. Guest2 said on July 12th, 2012 at 10:10 pm

    @Capri:
    She’s begging people to vote for romney so that gay marriage doesn’t become legal in her son’s lifetime and in that way she saves him from a fate worse than death?

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  109. Guest1 said on July 12th, 2012 at 10:17 pm

    I think the person behind this site is Jenny Paul, who supposedly wrote a book about BP and AJ but I don’t think it was ever published. I know I saw her name as the writer of at least one article on Bohomoth. Maybe she is jealous that Ian had his book published shortly before her book was to come out.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/03/10/brad-pitt-and-angelina-jo_n_492317.html

    IMO, Bohomoth is not an AJ sympathizer. I’ve read some really negative/nasty articles about AJ on her site. But I do think Bohomoth keeps changing her attitude toward celebrities, probably trying to keep pros and anti’s continuing to frequent her site.

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  110. Up the Coast said on July 12th, 2012 at 10:18 pm

    @Guest2:
    EXACTLY!!! :shock: that’s what it looks like to me also.

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  111. Up the Coast said on July 12th, 2012 at 10:19 pm

    @WCKitty:
    I LOVE COOKIES TOO!!!!!!

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  112. Guest2 said on July 12th, 2012 at 10:20 pm

    @WCKitty:
    I think someone said she is jenny paul who supposedly wrote a book about brangie at one time. I could be wrong about that, anyone please correct me if so. Here’s some shocking news from her book:

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/03/10/brad-pitt-and-angelina-jo_n_492317.html

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  113. Up the Coast said on July 12th, 2012 at 10:21 pm

    @Guest1:
    You are right.

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  114. WCKitty said on July 12th, 2012 at 10:23 pm

    @Up the Coast:
    :lol:

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  115. WCKitty said on July 12th, 2012 at 10:27 pm

    @Guest2:
    You are probably right with that being her site. She wrote that she worked closely with Angie’s people today. With Ian’s work getting published and not hers, well…! The posters here are so much nicer (with the exception of a couple nasty visitors).

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  116. Guest2 said on July 12th, 2012 at 10:27 pm

    @Up the Coast:
    Someone should tell poor jane that romney is no social conservative but any port in a storm I guess. He did fight the law legalizing gay marriage when he was governor of Mass but was over-ruled by the state supreme court which is ultra-liberal. He was a supporter of civil unions and adoption rights for gays. He also supported abortion rights early in his political career but changed his views when it became politically expedient. I’m not bashing romney, I think he’s a decent manywho’s lived a clean life but he’s definitely a moderate in his views.

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  117. Guest2 said on July 12th, 2012 at 10:28 pm

    @Guest2:
    man who’s……

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  118. WCKitty said on July 12th, 2012 at 10:31 pm

    @Up the Coast:
    I am still searching the Internet for a couple of recipes for cookies that I had as a child. Someday I will discover what the name of those cookies are so I can bake them! :)

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  119. Cilla said on July 12th, 2012 at 10:37 pm

    @whatever:
    The same goes for Tom Cruise. NO studio will work with him. I just saw a trailer for his new movie and sure enough on the bottom “TC Productions”. No wonder he made so much money last year, it was his production companies not necessarily him.

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  120. Guest2 said on July 12th, 2012 at 10:41 pm

    @Guest1:
    Lol, I didn’t see your post, if I had I wouldn’t have said the same thing. I do think think her article about angie on the beach in the galapagos islands dressed in a black tent and carrying a pink parasol was hilarious.

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  121. Dream said on July 12th, 2012 at 10:44 pm

    http://www.butyoudontlooksick.com/articles/written-by-christine/the-spoon-theory-written-by-christine-miserandino/
    someone sent this to me today. its the most wonderful thing. it’s an explanation of what life is like for people with many unseen diseases. i am sure there are others that this could help to explain themselves to friends.
    so just in case someone else can use it here it is.

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  122. Dream said on July 12th, 2012 at 10:46 pm

    @WCKitty:
    one of my favs was lace cookies
    ever had those?

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  123. joanne said on July 12th, 2012 at 10:54 pm

    HB Dream, hope you had a great day.

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  124. Up the Coast said on July 12th, 2012 at 10:55 pm

    @Guest2:
    He’s a politician, so what can we expect? He’ll say whatever it takes to get your vote :roll:

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  125. Up the Coast said on July 12th, 2012 at 10:56 pm

    @WCKitty:
    What did they taste like?

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  126. Guest2 said on July 12th, 2012 at 10:58 pm

    @Dream:
    Oatmeal raisin are my favorite cookies. I also love lace cookies. I had to look up oatmeal scotties. is this what your sister makes?

    http://mybakingheart.com/2008/10/31/oatmeal-scotchies/

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  127. WCKitty said on July 12th, 2012 at 11:00 pm

    @Dream:
    Yes, those are very good! :D

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  128. Guest2 said on July 12th, 2012 at 11:04 pm

    @Up the Coast:
    Yes, they do.

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  129. WCKitty said on July 12th, 2012 at 11:06 pm

    @Up the Coast:
    One was kind of a butter, nut (very small pieces), and probably brown sugar. The other had cinnamon and sugar and I believe it is a European type cookie. I have searched and tried several recipes to no avail.

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  130. Guest2 said on July 12th, 2012 at 11:07 pm

    Good night all. Dream, enjoy what’s left of your birthday (and the cookies).

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  131. WCKitty said on July 12th, 2012 at 11:12 pm

    Good night Guest2.

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  132. Up the Coast said on July 12th, 2012 at 11:21 pm

    @liv4:
    I guess that’s why Ange doesn’t sue Jenny Paul for all the nasty shit she says on her site…becuz “if she sued she’d give publicity to someone who in her words: ‘didn’t deserve it’.” :lol: I doubt that she’s worked “extensively with Brange’s people”. Mainly becuz she said that!

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  133. Up the Coast said on July 12th, 2012 at 11:24 pm

    Good night G2

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  134. Up the Coast said on July 12th, 2012 at 11:30 pm

    @liv4:
    Also…I seem to remember that JDepp even said the JP’s dog tried to attack him, in a creepy/humping way :( who else would have taught the dog that nasty habit? (and still allowed it around children? :shock: )

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  135. Dream said on July 12th, 2012 at 11:38 pm

    @Guest2:
    yes love them sooo much lol

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  136. Dream said on July 12th, 2012 at 11:40 pm

    ty for bday wishes eveyone and had a wonderful day ty. hope the twins did too. and happy 50th to the rolling stones.

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  137. P. Gold said on July 13th, 2012 at 12:41 am

    You know, I’ve always believed things happen in 3s. Recently, 2 superstars ( JD and TC ) partnerships went bust, wonder who’ll be next? If it aint Brad, then he aint superstar enough. Haha.

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  138. WR said on July 13th, 2012 at 2:40 am

    A different cookie story: It was in San Francisco, at Thanksgiving time. Was invited by friend to dinner at his home. When I arrived at his beautiful apartment, many others were already there, and he invited me to have some cookies at a nearby table.
    I complimented him on the home-baked cookies and remarked they were tasty and soft. I kept it up about the unique taste, when a new arrival came upon the scene.
    Pointing to the table I was at, he said, “Have a marijuana cookie!” to the young man, after he thanked him for the gift that was proffered!

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  139. WR said on July 13th, 2012 at 2:42 am

    Read at several sites, that Katie is seriously considering changing Suri’s name.

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  140. WR said on July 13th, 2012 at 2:46 am

    Hollywood has a superstition about losing their actors. They believe death comes in threes. Andy Griffith and Ernest Borgnine have now gone. Who could be the third?
    Speaking of Ernest Borgnine, seems I saw him just a year or two ago, vigorously walking across a stage to present an award. He walked like a man thirty years younger. And his face appeared young!

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  141. WR said on July 13th, 2012 at 3:24 am

    Friday, the 13th!
    Nevertheless, Happy Birthday, to:
    Harrison Ford, (1942)
    Robert Forster, (1941)
    Patrick Stewart, (1940)

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  142. WR said on July 13th, 2012 at 3:27 am

    Re: John Travolta: In the talking circle I attend, there are many who have been in show biz: and/or know others who are famous. And every one of them like John Travolta, even with the gay publicity.

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  143. Siska said on July 13th, 2012 at 6:30 am

    @Up the Coast:Do you wonder how he defend straightaway if it’s about him making silly statement about Jen ? But not if anyone else? He seem bit selffish,the make Angie and jen look the bad one on his affair. Really not respect this guy.

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  144. Siska said on July 13th, 2012 at 6:43 am

    @whatever:I’m with you on throwing the ring at his face..I felt so insulted in behalf of Angie for his behavior that dragging the marriage for political reason.
    I knew some of their movie not well receive in box office,but most I think get break even,even the awful the tourists still making money just because of Angie and deep name.
    Anyway it’s a lot of mix to make successful movie ,,not depend on the star,

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  145. Siska said on July 13th, 2012 at 6:46 am

    Jen and cox having another dinner on soho house and cox came with a man .
    And Jen also going dinner with Shelley m with jtx.

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  146. Siska said on July 13th, 2012 at 6:47 am

    @Dream:
    It’s your birthday? Wish you all the best and enjoy it!!

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  147. Tetta said on July 13th, 2012 at 7:15 am

    Good Morning all of you. As usual when I open this site the first time in a day I read it from the beginning. When I read what Ian´s source told us I read it in another way than yesterday.
    ” This in from a source close to the couple. “They certainly have their business together,” the source told IUC. “If they split they would lose a fortune. They’re worth much more together and they are acutely aware of it. Brangelina is a world brand, just like Kelloggs and Coca Cola.”

    They have their business together. They are worth much more together. And then the comparison with Kellogs and Coca Cola.

    First of all “business together”. It doesn´t sound like they make movies together. And one of them doesn´t get more paid for a role because they are a couple. And somewhere I read that Kellogs and Coca Cola has been associated with cocaine. Business, together, cocaine. That makes me believe they earn big money on something that doesn´t depend on their movie careers at all. And as long as they are a couple traveling around the world with their kids they are able to make drug deals on different places. No one consider it odd if one of them goes to a place nearby for a day or two. If you are so far away from home, why not take the opportunity to look at something more. It´s not a new thought in anyway. We have discussed it before. But if “a close source says it ” , it´s more like a confirmation of what is going on

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  148. Tetta said on July 13th, 2012 at 7:18 am

    @Dream:

    A belated Happy Birthday ! Hope you had a nice day !

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  149. sinker said on July 13th, 2012 at 8:49 am

    @Tetta:
    good points. because the “brand” in HW seems to sinking to the bottom pretty quickly. neither one of them was talented enough to stay on top in HW so the biz alliance would be something else. sadly, i wouldn’t be a bit surprised if it was drugs, guns, humans.

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  150. Guest2 said on July 13th, 2012 at 9:35 am

    @Tetta:
    That’s a very astute observation, Tetta. Ian seems to be very specific in his choice of words so using kellogg’s and coca cola must have more meaning than what they feed their kids for breakfast. It goes back to their very expensive lifestyle and how they pay for it. Brad didn’t make the top 10 list of highest paid actors with the lowest paid making $30M, angie didn’t star in a movie for two years so where does their money come from? Maybe Ian can give us another twitter clue.

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  151. Guest2 said on July 13th, 2012 at 10:23 am

    Interesting blind from lainey. Does this sound like brangie?

    http://laineygossip.com/Articles/Details/24062/He-turned-out-to-be-the-clich%C3%A9-blind-riddle

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  152. Patty Anne said on July 13th, 2012 at 11:55 am

    He’s a very soft spoken and polite man. Even though he’s fabulously wealthy, and a huge celebrity he will move over to give you his place when ordering a late night coffee. Personaly I’ve always believed a person’s private and personal life is just that and should be respected. As long as nothing is done to adversely affect my life, my families lives, it’s fine by me. I also see all these charges of molestation against JT by adult professionals as being made public just for that reason – publicity, and bad publicity at that. Why? and why now? I’m sure there is a reason, and perhaps that reason is control. Anyway, yes, I’ve met him two years ago, in Ocala, at a midnight coffee shop and once again in my small lakeside community where he was looking to buy property for COS. IMO, he’s a good man – a loving father – and has a big heart.@WR:

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  153. joanne said on July 13th, 2012 at 11:56 am

    @WR:
    Good way to keep a party mellow and get rid of back and other assorted aches.

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  154. joanne said on July 13th, 2012 at 11:59 am

    @sinker:
    I wouldn’t be surprised either. That picture of her with the child tied to a tree is just so wrong.

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  155. GUest2 said on July 13th, 2012 at 12:23 pm

    Apparently, pitt is being a diva about the re-shoots for wwz according to this article I found at FF. Great way to add to the already astronomical production costs. Why is he in hiding lately? I wonder if he had more surgical work done and it went wrong.

    http://www.femalefirst.co.uk/board/viewtopic.php?f=40&t=316999&sid=3b3652a5e4937f4a9de24efd602df518

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  156. WR said on July 13th, 2012 at 12:57 pm

    Re: Hollywood superstition about death coming in threes. Read that singer, Andy Williams is terminally ill and is close to passing.

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  157. joanne said on July 13th, 2012 at 1:05 pm

    @WR:
    The made it to ripe age. He has a great voice.

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  158. joanne said on July 13th, 2012 at 1:06 pm

    @joanne:
    that should be he.

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  159. joanne said on July 13th, 2012 at 1:10 pm

    @Guest2:
    I don’t think it sounds like them although Pitt doesn’t seem worth it, who knows, someone might think he is.
    Is Pitt at the age were the under 30 turn him down?

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  160. Dream said on July 13th, 2012 at 1:43 pm

    @WR:
    lol did willie nelson show up for this? lol that must have been funny.
    did the cookies affect u. i have heard for some they don’t. actually been thinking about turning to pot for pain, and smoking is not an option.

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  161. Dream said on July 13th, 2012 at 1:46 pm

    @WR:
    i was taken about as well with recent remarks about jt. i have always heard the nicest things about him. i know jetts death hit him hard so unless hes acting out , out of grief i find it hard to believe hes such a douche, yes i believe he hits on anything in trousers, but i don’t believe hes a predator.

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  162. Dream said on July 13th, 2012 at 2:10 pm

    @Siska:
    it was yesterdat siska ty . :)

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  163. Guest2 said on July 13th, 2012 at 2:19 pm

    @joanne:
    It doesn’t sound like them because these two go to parties and I don’t think brangie does except for business events. But the reasons I thought it could be is because she’s highly paid, award winning/nominated, she’s never worked twice with the same actors/directors (that I know of), the comment about looking the way she does and lainey seemed crestfallen that the man could do something like that and she’s a staunch brangeloonie. No other highly paid actress seemed to fit the blind. I guess we have to wait for the reveal.

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  164. Guest2 said on July 13th, 2012 at 2:23 pm

    @Guest2:
    Also the comment about she being the love of his life and their relationship being a partnership.

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  165. Dream said on July 13th, 2012 at 2:42 pm

    @Tetta:
    ty tetta lol u guys are so nice.

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  166. joanne said on July 13th, 2012 at 2:51 pm

    @Dream:
    smoking is not an option for me either. I hope to be able to get it via inhaler some day legally. I have weird sounds in my head from cymbalta, they aren’t as bad as they were but it should be off the market.
    If I had marijuana cookies. I would let people know. Some people can’t even handle a toke and allergies to the stuff.

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  167. Dream said on July 13th, 2012 at 3:49 pm

    @joanne:
    i know not really a nice thing to spring on someone but a very funny story.

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  168. Dream said on July 13th, 2012 at 3:50 pm

    @joanne:
    i have paralysis in my lungs so smoking is not an option but i saw a show on pot butter. then used in cooking it had not crunchy leaf stuff that way. i just don’t know anyone that has actually tried it.

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  169. joanne said on July 13th, 2012 at 4:03 pm

    @Dream:
    I had a cake made with the butter. It wasn’t bad.

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  170. joanne said on July 13th, 2012 at 4:05 pm

    @Dream:
    :lol: I don’t have voices speaking to me but I get residual mind zaps. Its like flashbacks from the cymbalta.

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  171. Dream said on July 13th, 2012 at 4:19 pm

    @joanne:
    ty 4 info. couldnt do cymbalta either

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  172. Dream said on July 13th, 2012 at 4:57 pm

    Enty Lawyer
    Richard Zanuck, Oscar-winning producer of Driving Miss Daisy, Jaws and Tim Burton films, including Alice in Wonderland, has died. He was 77
    i guess theres number 3

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  173. Capri said on July 13th, 2012 at 6:24 pm

    @WR:
    Thanks for passing that on, I hadn’t seen that. I loved listening to him. He and Robert Goulet made a little romcom with Sandra Dee and Maurice Chevalier called I’d Rather Be Rich. When I was a kid, I just loved that movie.

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  174. joanne said on July 13th, 2012 at 7:11 pm

    @joanne:
    I was taken off of cymbalta cold turkey and almost went crazy.

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  175. liv4 said on July 13th, 2012 at 7:31 pm

    @joanne:I’m not glad to hear that but am relieved it wasn’t my husband’s imagination when they stopped his cymbalta cold-turkey and he was a total mess. Thanks for sharing. He will appreciate it.

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  176. liv4 said on July 13th, 2012 at 7:33 pm

    @Dream:
    Ian once had a clue about pot butter. That is the only way I know about it. See how the man has broadened my horizons.

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  177. joanne said on July 13th, 2012 at 7:37 pm

    @liv4:
    No, it probably wasn’t.

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  178. Guest2 said on July 13th, 2012 at 8:37 pm

    @Guest2:
    Totally disregard this comment, I was at work and rushing and got my blinds mixed up. Sorry.

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  179. WR said on July 14th, 2012 at 1:22 am

    @Dream:
    Yeah, there i was trying to be so congenial. Well, I stopped eating when I heard what it was. He was part of our group that went up to the British Columbia mountains up north. Fascinating trip!
    Just one incident: We were in Vancouver, the six of us riding in the van, and headed northward. Well, we didn’t know the area, and had to ask directions. On the tape player, was LEGEND by Marley. So, we came to a highway, and needed to ask directions. So, here’s this stalled car with LEGEND on the guy’s license plates. And we got proper directions.

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  180. WR said on July 14th, 2012 at 1:29 am

    @Dream:
    Yes, we learned in Behavioral Science, that when one is stricken with overwhelming grief, he/she may offer themselves sexually to some friend/acquaintance, who wouldn’t have the merest sex appeal, otherwise.
    Don’t know if that’s the case with JT. But he does seem to have to be himself, regardless of the cost.

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  181. WR said on July 14th, 2012 at 1:40 am

    @Dream:
    I, too, love Willie Nelson. Saw him in concert (They now allow beer consumption, it seems). His grown boys accompanied him. Willie had a flat belly and arms, seemingly, as large as aspen tree trunks.
    Personally, I’m allergic to pot, but I hope it will be legit soon.
    In China, people use AHCC to fight cancer, and other deadly diseases. One can get a bottle in health food stores for about 45 dollars. (500 Mg. 60 capsules). If they have that deadly disease, they take 2 caps three times daily, at least at first. They also take about a couple, daily, even if they’re not threatened, for general well-being. the main ingredient is crushed mushrooms.

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  182. joanne said on July 14th, 2012 at 8:50 am

    @WR:
    Nothing like booze and a crowd.

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  183. joanne said on July 14th, 2012 at 8:50 am

    @WR:
    Nothing like booze and a crowd.

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  184. joanne said on July 14th, 2012 at 9:24 am

    @joanne:
    wow i said that twice. :lol: thats a first.

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  185. Dream said on July 14th, 2012 at 3:39 pm

    @WR:
    lol so much of that happens in my life. i am a believer in signs. my moms family are all like that. there are times god is leading us and we need to pay attention to the road signs.

    i agree about jt. with jetts death theres no telling what he could be doing.
    i am not proud of my past but after losing my first daughter, i acted out in ways i wish i had not. but jsut a good excuse to get up and make ur life better i guess. hope if jt is acting out he gets help and grieves in a better way.
    sometimes i think the victorians knew what they were talking about when it comes to grieving. u made ur outward appearance show ur inner feelings and nothing was wrong if it helped u get over the death. people knew to help and not ask awkward questions.
    even the way you were introduced for the rest of ur life reflected u were a widow.

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  186. Patty Anne said on July 14th, 2012 at 3:42 pm

    A Blast From The Past – 2008 in fact. Michelle Obama’s thesis still has not been released to the general public.

    http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/thesis.asp

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  187. Up the Coast said on July 14th, 2012 at 4:06 pm

    @Patty Anne:
    It’s been released…it’s on Politico. I like how Snopes goes on to explain what Michelle “might have meant”, is that really their job??? :lol: I didn’t realize anyone was forcing her to attend Princeton…poor, ungrateful thing. Doesn’t look like much has changed either ;)
    It’s a loooong boring read: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0208/8642.html

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  188. Liz E. said on July 14th, 2012 at 4:32 pm

    “Cillasaid on July 12th, 2012 at 10:37 pm.

    @whatever:
    The same goes for Tom Cruise. NO studio will work with him. I just saw a trailer for his new movie and sure enough on the bottom “TC Productions”. No wonder he made so much money last year, it was his production companies not necessarily him. ”

    If you’re talking about Jack Reacher then it is produced by Paramount Pictures and Skydance Productions (respected production company) and Mutual Film Company is also involved (Saving Private Ryan among many others). Maybe your eyes saw the TC Productions and missed the others. Paramount is handling the US distribution and Universal has a piece of the overseas distribution. Just becasue the tabs have decided Cruise is on the outs don’t necessarily make it so. There’s still alot of money to be made from Tom.

    It really doesn’t matter how an actor makes his money – by just acting or added production income. Sometimes the production credit is merely in name only and it has nothing to do with that actor’s income. But if an actor can enhance his revenue via a production income why not? Making money in movies is a strange and mysterious thing. ;)

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  189. Dream said on July 14th, 2012 at 6:08 pm

    @WR:
    i wrote a long answer to ur pots lol it seesm to have been eaten byt the post monster. loved ur story and maybe the post will show back up.

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  190. Patty Anne said on July 14th, 2012 at 7:57 pm

    Thanks, I’ll read that in a bit. Hubby and I plan to watch Animal Planet at 8 to see The Cat From Hell…..lol. This should be good, it’s a hairless cat with major attitude. @Up the Coast:

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  191. Siska said on July 15th, 2012 at 8:03 am

    There are funny article on national enquire,which said Jen make fun comment about Angie devil horn,which someone overheard she said its suit her as a horny devil,he..he
    If this is true,Jen surely has wicked sense of humor..but all the Angie fans get so angry and start calling the war again..he..he..when they surely more worst on calling Jen …irony..it’s quite funny.

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  192. Guest1 said on July 15th, 2012 at 10:58 am

    @Liz E.:
    Sounds like Katie Holmes may have timed this perfectly. Seeing pictures of her with Tom Cruise over the years, I thought of her as a stepford wife. I guess she is a better actress than I thought!

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  193. Up the Coast said on July 15th, 2012 at 12:52 pm

    @Siska:
    I think it’s hilarious! :lol: afterall, it’s true that joLIE is a horny bitch.

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  194. Liz E. said on July 15th, 2012 at 2:44 pm

    @Patty Anne:

    I read Michelle’s thesis during the 2008 campaign so it’s been around since at last then. I wasn’t much impressed. It seemed more of an anecdotal and opinion piece than a scholarly work with serious research and analysis. It was easy to find on the internet. Can’t remember quite how I got there – either via a link or my own google search. Standards haven’t been the same in a long time – it’s not just about Michelle.

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  195. Patty Anne said on July 15th, 2012 at 3:55 pm

    Yes, thanks. UTC gave me a link as I’d come across many comments referring to it so I was interested. Your comment re: standards changing is very obvious in society currently, and not for the better imo. @Liz E.:

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  196. Patty Anne said on July 15th, 2012 at 3:57 pm

    I read in a paper today commentary concerning BP and the re-shooting of WWZ ’s ending. He was referred to as ” a whining baby”….lol My~! How times have changed. Also another article claims AJ won’t let her children listen to rap music with “dirty” language. Well, if true, that gives me hope for the little ones.

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  197. WR said on July 15th, 2012 at 4:42 pm

    @Patty Anne:
    Good for Angie! “RapMusic” is listed as an oxymoron.

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  198. WR said on July 15th, 2012 at 4:47 pm

    @Dream:
    Sorry about the posts. Well, thank you, anyway.
    As I posted before, we have a “talking circle” in our apt. complex; and many know stories about celebs. It’s a confidential gathering, but they do share some of the darker stories. Most of it, however, is positive.

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  199. Up the Coast said on July 15th, 2012 at 4:54 pm

    @Patty Anne:
    I, for one, am shocked that Ange would stifle their imagination or freedom of expression! Words are only words, afterall ;) I thought she was an artist, and artists raise their children differently than the rest of us?

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  200. joanne said on July 15th, 2012 at 5:01 pm

    @Up the Coast:
    I don’t think Jolie even knows what they listen to. She is either acting or getting her picture taken with dirty half naked kids in ther countries ‘poor area’. I do believe Pitt is a whinning baby.

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  201. Up the Coast said on July 15th, 2012 at 5:57 pm

    @joanne:
    I doubt she knows what they listen to either…she just puts these stories out there, trying to sound like she’s a normal mom…as IF. The whining baby comment is priceless!!! http://clouddragon.files.wordpress.com/2010/06/whining-baby.jpg

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  202. joanne said on July 15th, 2012 at 6:13 pm

    @Up the Coast:
    :lol:

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  203. siska said on July 15th, 2012 at 6:46 pm

    @Up the Coast:
    yeah,she even sort of admit it with her confession had several lovers and open up about her bedroom secret on the interview.
    its a compliment..he..he

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  204. siska said on July 15th, 2012 at 6:49 pm

    @Guest2:
    i dont think so,he is famous on cheated on jen.
    do you read about how wwz seem getting problem after problem?..i think they need all brangie power to promote this movie,thats why they might get married at that time or having another kid.

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  205. siska said on July 15th, 2012 at 6:53 pm

    @Dream:
    it happen to me when i use my tablet,i wrote several long post and has to keep repeat it cause get deleted over and over again. so now i used computer when i have to used long one.
    do you enjoy your birthday?..get spoiled?

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  206. Angelina Jolie said on July 15th, 2012 at 7:30 pm

    Ian, Brad and I marry on the 32th of august 2012, can you do me the honor to be my bestman? All the participants of this forum are welcome! Send me your address and i’ll send you back a bomban invitation.

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  207. Angelina Jolie said on July 15th, 2012 at 7:30 pm

    Ian, Brad and I marry on the 32th of august 2012, can you do me the honor to be my bestman? All the participants of this forum are welcome! Send me your address and i’ll send you back a bomb an invitation.

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  208. Patty Anne said on July 15th, 2012 at 8:08 pm

    I don’t think making it legal (marriage) or buying another child ( or bio) will help WWZ. Most people are so over these aging former stars that even their “friendship ring” announcement didn’t create much of a stir and in fact wasn’t even on the front of most gossip pages. Perhaps that is why Brad is whining as much as the failure of WWZ to date. Three weeks of reshoots and he can’t get along with the director he fought to hire? Poor Brad, he’s just a tired, old, stinky man now. Has it only been seven years? Wow, must be like DOG years though, judging by their appearance. How disappointing too, they were once individually so hawt.@siska:

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  209. Patty Anne said on July 15th, 2012 at 8:10 pm

    I’ll bet this is really Angie who posted this; know how I can tell? She’s posting an invitation for something that will never happen because there IS NO AUGUST THIRTY-SECOND…..lol@Angelina Jolie:

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  210. Patty Anne said on July 15th, 2012 at 8:12 pm

    :D @Up the Coast:

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  211. fluffy said on July 15th, 2012 at 8:21 pm

    Angelina Jolie

    If you are going to be married on that day could you please not stick out that skinny legs of yours.
    Please do not wear a short skirt like your Salt Prem as you do not look good in short dresses.

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  212. joanne said on July 15th, 2012 at 8:23 pm

    @siska:
    wonderful reason for a wedding or bearing/buying a child. How romantic can you get? (sarcasm)

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  213. joanne said on July 15th, 2012 at 8:26 pm

    @Angelina Jolie:
    I hope you cover your arm of fame tattoo.

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  214. Guest2 said on July 15th, 2012 at 8:32 pm

    @siska:
    I did read about about the problems with wwz. I don’t really think anything they do in their personal lives, marriage or more kids, will have that much of an impact on how the movie does. The book has a following though I’ve read that the screenplay is not very much like the book. The author of the book (who is the son of mel brooks and ann bancroft) has distanced himself from the movie. I think people will go to see it but with such an astronomical budget it will take a lot to make its money back. I was reading about max brooks and found this comment about why he didn’t write the screenplay: In the October 2006 issue of Fangoria Magazine, Brooks stated that he will not be writing the screenplay for the motion picture, as he feels he is not an accomplished enough screenwriter to “do it right”. I guess he hasn’t ever been quarantined with the flu.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Max_Brooks

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  215. joanne said on July 15th, 2012 at 8:35 pm

    @Guest2:
    Pitt took to many liberties again? He just wants to be so special. He ruined CCOBB by adding Katrina. It was a short story made way to long.

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  216. Guest2 said on July 15th, 2012 at 8:46 pm

    @Angelina Jolie:

    I think you should wear your brown horns, veils are so bourgeois, and horns really suit you (wink, wnk). Of course, your looney-loons won’t be happy, they’re fawning all over your fake movie wedding pictures with brad over at ff. It’s pretty funny. So who’s your maid of honor, james?

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  217. Guest2 said on July 15th, 2012 at 8:51 pm

    @Patty Anne:
    I wonder if that’s the date brad set to keep her quiet :lol:

    I wonder what music she’ll play for the walk down the aisle. Maybe the Canadian national anthem?

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  218. Cilla said on July 15th, 2012 at 9:51 pm

    @Liz E.:
    And guess who is a big partner at Paramount?

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  219. WCKitty said on July 15th, 2012 at 10:04 pm

    @Guest2:
    It should be ‘Rich Girl’ :)

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  220. Guest2 said on July 15th, 2012 at 10:18 pm

    @WCKitty:
    I had to look up the lyrics for that song and then realized I always thought they were saying you’re a bitch girl, lol. The song makes more sense with rich though bitch would fit too in this instance.

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  221. Guest2 said on July 15th, 2012 at 10:35 pm

    @joanne:
    I didn’t see ccobb but I think pitt has an over-inflated opinion of himself and his abillities and might be the type of person who’s hell bent on doing things his way and doesn’t listen to good advice when it’s given to him.

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  222. Patty Anne said on July 15th, 2012 at 10:36 pm

    LOL, and I used to think the song was Hang On Snoopy….sigh@Guest2:

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  223. Togi said on July 15th, 2012 at 11:41 pm

    @Patty Anne:PFT!!!!!!! Oh my gosh! The lurking one just couldn’t resist responding to this, Patty Anne, because … ME TOOOOOOOO! In fact, up until this very, VERY moment I thought it was Hang On SNOOPY! :)

    @Patty Anne:

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  224. Patty Anne said on July 16th, 2012 at 12:40 am

    LOL, well it’s good to know I’m not the only one….I won’t tell on myself with the other songs I’ve misunderstood, but for the most part, I prefer my version. ;-) @Togi:

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  225. Stella said on July 16th, 2012 at 12:45 am

    These two little girls need our help and prayers!! Let’s get the message out there people!!

    http://bloximages.chicago2.vip.townnews.com/wcfcourier.com/content/tncms/assets/v3/editorial/c/6b/c6bdc22a-ce7d-11e1-ab38-0019bb2963f4/5002c04654cd0.preview-699.jpg

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  226. Stella said on July 16th, 2012 at 12:47 am

    I’ll post this tomorrow at work and email people, maybe we could all help and do the same!! xxxx

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  227. WCKitty said on July 16th, 2012 at 2:20 am

    @Guest2:
    Towards the end of the song I thought one line was you’re a rich bitch girl, which is how I think of her.

    @Patty Anne:
    I always thought it was “there’s a bathroom on the right” instead of “bad moon on the rise.” It is always more fun to have your own version and besides, it is hard to understand some of the singers anyway so we are just helping them out. :lol:

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  228. WCKitty said on July 16th, 2012 at 2:22 am

    @Stella:
    Oh how sad! My prayers are with the girls and their loved ones.

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  229. Angelina Jolie said on July 16th, 2012 at 2:55 am

    Best regards to friend of mine Manniston!!

    @Patty Anne:
    WHAAAAT! There is no august 32th??!! I had to choose between aug 32th and feb 30th! Don’t tell me that feb…[IMG]http://smileys.sur-la-toile.com/repository/Triste/pleure-triste-59.gif[/IMG]

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  230. Angelina Jolie said on July 16th, 2012 at 2:58 am

    Best regards to friend of mine Manniston!!

    @Patty Anne:
    WHAAAAT! There is no august 32th??!! I had to choose between aug 32th and feb 30th! Don’t tell me that feb…:cry:

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  231. Siska said on July 16th, 2012 at 8:21 am

    @Patty Anne: I just think he will do that because he invest so much on this movie ,and any pr is a good promo for the movie,remember when he resorted to calling his marriage is boring to create a stir when promo the moneyball,which also he produced?
    And his die hard fans will have to support him for it. Because his fans think he can carry a movie by himself and Jen only famous because of him,so we see if they will willing to support him even on the bad movie ( which I don’t think so because tree of life ,don’t do well)
    I always think a movie star to a guarantee of successful movie,it’s a lot of other parts.
    But wwz is brad’s baby like honey and land is angie’ s baby,she claimed to wrote and directed,so when it’s not successful ,why her fans didn’t blame on Jen,like they always blame on Jen on some of her unsuccessful movie.

    Anyway ,I hope that mobile will not suck.s

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  232. Siska said on July 16th, 2012 at 8:23 am

    Oops mean movie,he.he,@Siska:

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  233. Siska said on July 16th, 2012 at 8:39 am

    @joanne:Yep all business..he..he

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  234. Siska said on July 16th, 2012 at 8:51 am

    @Guest2:
    I think brad getting too much involve with high budget movie way too much..btw do you remember brad interview which saying when his marriage getting boring,he seem to want to find movie that challenge and interesting him? ..mum do he starting to get boring again? That’s why he found this difficult project ? He seem really love epic and high budget movie..and Jen prefer small budget movie..one other stuff which show they not match for each other.
    I really think high budget movie should be a thing in the past,with technology they should can get more cost effective way to do it..I remember a movie called ” monster ” small budget but with the feeling of big budget movie.
    And overpaid actor and director should be a thing in the past..it’s way too much excessive . The studio should be more smart controlling the cost ,used profit participation is way smarter. I think they started doing it,but still not making any sense why the actor get the percentage higher than the director.

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  235. laineysays said on July 16th, 2012 at 9:56 am

    @Guest2:
    its jon hamm

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  236. Guest2 said on July 16th, 2012 at 9:58 am

    @Angelina Jolie:
    You seem to have a lot of free time on your hands, double posting and everything. Where’s brad, did he leave you to carry on with bambi now they’re reunited for WWZ? She’s a hot young chick, that one. Don’t know what she would see in grampy pitt but ambition is blind, I guess. I hope you can twist his arm (or whatever he likes twisted) to marry you soon. It’s becoming a big joke, you know, the endless talk of marriage.

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  237. Patty Anne said on July 16th, 2012 at 10:38 am

    LOL, so true, and we had such fun singing our heads of with our versions anyway. I know when I’d have a long road trip I’d turn up the volumn and sing as loud as I could crossing the mountains….felt good too. ;-) @WCKitty:

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  238. Patty Anne said on July 16th, 2012 at 10:46 am

    I think Siska, Brad and Angie’s fan don’t blame them for their failures as they do Jennifer is because they have put so much of themselves out there in rabid, blind support of her/ them. Most of their defense is centered around Brad and Angie’s illicit affair while still married, and the conception of a baby while still married. This basicly establishes their own moral values so that they can not afford to allow a single crack in their logic. Saving face if you will. Although I do believe even most loons are bored to death with the manipulations of a rapidly aging and ridiculous Brangelina.@Siska:

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  239. Patty Anne said on July 16th, 2012 at 10:49 am

    I think most Jennifer Aniston fans would agree with me on this; if we could, we would rewrite our calendars to create an August 32, 2012 and even send flowers, Cala Lillies, to their wedding. We’d LOVE to see Brad finally marry his desperate baby-momma as it’s the very least he should do to the woman who has lived in an open (fidelity is not required) relationship while amassing six little children. Seven years a mistress/baby-momma? Good Grief~! Why won’t Brad marry Angie? Why?@Angelina Jolie:

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  240. Up the Coast said on July 16th, 2012 at 12:40 pm

    @Stella:
    Their grandmother is going to be on HLN tonight!

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  241. Up the Coast said on July 16th, 2012 at 12:41 pm

    @Patty Anne:
    WHY!!!!!! Indeed.

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  242. joanne said on July 16th, 2012 at 1:24 pm

    I would like to see a Jolie/Pitt wedding. Those kids deserve one.

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  243. Guest2 said on July 16th, 2012 at 1:33 pm

    @Patty Anne:
    I agree with you completely!

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  244. guest said on July 16th, 2012 at 2:40 pm

    @Angelina Jolie:
    I”m sure Maniston would thank you, MANSJAWLINA!

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  245. joanne said on July 16th, 2012 at 3:28 pm

    They are trying to decide what to do with the Joe Paterno bronez statute at penn State. I think I read they are paying money to protect it? (I do hope i’m wrong). Anyway, i think it they add a shower scene with the figues of a man and boy in it behind JP and his footballs palayers it should be okay.

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  246. joanne said on July 16th, 2012 at 3:29 pm

    sorry for errors, shaky today.

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  247. Guest2 said on July 16th, 2012 at 3:51 pm

    @joanne:
    Yes, so they can throw rice at their nitwit parents.

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  248. Up the Coast said on July 16th, 2012 at 3:56 pm

    @joanne:
    Melt it down :(

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  249. Up the Coast said on July 16th, 2012 at 3:56 pm

    @Guest2:
    They can throw knives! :) Cuz Ange thinks that’s cool.

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  250. joanne said on July 16th, 2012 at 4:08 pm

    @Up the Coast:
    :lol:

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  251. Guest2 said on July 16th, 2012 at 5:04 pm

    @Up the Coast:
    :lol:

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  252. janindisguise said on July 16th, 2012 at 5:41 pm

    @Stella:
    I will print that out in color at work tomorrow and post around. Also, how can I get that on facebook from there? Or can you tell me from somewhere else I can post to facebook? Does that make sense?

    Thanks. Praying also.

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  253. Up the Coast said on July 16th, 2012 at 5:51 pm

    @janindisguise:
    The address is at the bottom of that pic…… http://www.facebook.com/missingcases
    I hope these girls are found SOON!

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  254. Guest2 said on July 16th, 2012 at 7:50 pm

    It looks like jane pitt’s letter writing plan might have worked.

    http://www.nationalenquirer.com/celebrity/angie-outraged-family-furor

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  255. Guest2 said on July 16th, 2012 at 7:58 pm

    @Up the Coast:
    I was reading that earlier at Aol. I hope and pray they find the girls unharmed.

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  256. Up the Coast said on July 16th, 2012 at 8:36 pm

    @Guest2:
    :lol: After they straighten Jane out, they’ll have to straighten Jon out too. Or….they could just STFU. (Ange looks wasted in that pic they used).

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  257. Up the Coast said on July 16th, 2012 at 8:39 pm

    @Guest2:
    I do too.

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  258. Dream said on July 16th, 2012 at 10:02 pm

    @Patty Anne:
    it’s not?
    I joke.

    lol my daughter and i have a joke that anyone that actually knows the lyrics is a nerd. so we have one chorus we sing to every song. no matter what. lol it always makes us laugh for the other one to start singing the wrong words at the top of our lungs at random times.

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  259. Dream said on July 16th, 2012 at 10:05 pm

    @Stella:
    i will be praying for a miracle or alternately the family to have closure and strength.

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  260. Dream said on July 16th, 2012 at 10:08 pm

    @WCKitty:
    iron butterfly’s song writer, can’t remember which it was now, anyway he would write song and stand on the other side of the room and ask ask his band mates what it sounded like he said. lol now u know how In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida came to be.

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  261. Dream said on July 16th, 2012 at 10:28 pm

    @Guest2:
    lol zahara viv knox and shi will throw rice but maddox and pax will run around picking it all back up cause u know theya re asian and they would never waste rice like that.
    lol still amkes me laugh angie says they love asian food cause theya re asian.

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  262. x said on July 16th, 2012 at 11:28 pm

    @Dream:
    i heard that too, and inagaddadavida came about from him saying ‘in the garden of eden’.

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  263. Liz E. said on July 17th, 2012 at 12:04 am

    @Dream:

    Dream, it sounds like you and your daughter have a great relationship and a lot of fun together. :)

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  264. Liz E. said on July 17th, 2012 at 12:12 am

    “He ruined CCOBB by adding Katrina”

    I think Fincher did that. But, gee, that was one of my favorite parts of the movie. The death of the baby Benjamin and the death of the city. Boo hoo.

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  265. martha said on July 17th, 2012 at 9:29 am

    I’ve said it before – practically speaking, when you have 6 very young kids, it can’t be easy to consier divorce. No one wants to end up alone with 6 toddlers… no matter how many nannies you have.

    Based on stories of the past, I tend to believe they are living on a large estate in California but in different homes. This kind of arrangement is the one that makes most sense if they are separated at the moment. Yes, I think there is a high likelihood that they will call it quits, but I don’t expect that to happen until all the kids are relatively self-sufficient… 3-5 years.

    As for BP, based on the events of his life as we know them, and his recent silence in the face of the news that his mother wrote a ltter to a local paper, he strikes me as probably pretty laid back (and not terribly bright). Guys like that aren’t likely to proactively push for major change unless they are in a corner and forced to act.

    AJ strikes me as the opposite – super smart, strategic and ambitious – so I wonder what is holding her back from pulling the plug? Is she that fame-hungry or is there more to this?

    She’s been alone with a kid before.. maybe the thought of being alone with six kids is too much to fathom. I don’t think she’s hanging on for love, nor is it solely driven by her public image. She was picking things up for herself before BP came along and I think could have continued maturing and rectifying the stupidities of the past even without BP. (I know I am in the minority on this.)

    My 2 cents from 1,000,000 degrees of separation and based on probably alot of false news!

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  266. WCKitty said on July 17th, 2012 at 12:46 pm

    @Dream:
    @x:
    I didn’t know that! :D

    My friends and I would always have fun trying to sing (and keep up) with the lyrics to the Doobie Brothers ‘Black Water’ and whenever it comes on the radio (while I am in the car) – I still try. :lol:

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  267. haki said on July 17th, 2012 at 12:54 pm

    Patty Anne – Yes, agreed! I wish that Brad would marry Angelina tomorrow, and make her officially his wife and end this circus. But he won’t.

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  268. Guest2 said on July 17th, 2012 at 1:34 pm

    @martha:
    She had a good career pre-brad but I don’t think she was anywhere near the A-list star she became after hooking up with him. Being the fiance of brad pitt and the mother of his children is not something she will give up easily, imo. I also think she’s gotten more out of the relationship professionally than brad has. I don’t know about their personal lives but judging from her appearance she doesn’t look healthy or happy (nor does he).

    If by strategic you mean manipulative then I agree with you completely. I know Ian has said she’s smart but it makes you wonder how smart she can be if she can’t keep better track of her many lies and stop contradicting herself so much. I do think she’s smarter than brad but I also think brad is a selfish man and does what he wants especially when he gets “bored” as we all know now. Their current arrangement will probably work until one of them finds someone they want to be with in a public way. Until then they’ll continue as they have, though I do find it curious that she didn’t show up at cannes (maybe she was banned if french chick is right) and they haven’t been photographed together in a long time. Maybe this is their way of preparing the public for their eventual split. JMO from 1,000,000 degrees of separation as you say.

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  269. joanne said on July 17th, 2012 at 2:04 pm

    @Liz E.:
    I thought it was tacky, its great that people are allowed different opinions.. CCOBB the orginal story takes about a half hour to read. I think Pitt was tying make it right in there somehow.

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  270. WR said on July 17th, 2012 at 2:25 pm

    Read in the news, yesterday, that BP and his current director are no longer talking.
    Brangie only need to look at Octomom to know that it’s possible to raise kids as a single. Ha!
    I’m with those who are hoping they get married, soon!

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  271. Up the Coast said on July 17th, 2012 at 2:57 pm

    @WR:
    :lol: You can give birth to 14 kids and still be HOT! So there’s hope for Ange.

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  272. joanne said on July 17th, 2012 at 3:04 pm

    @Up the Coast:
    Octomom does look much better than Jolie. She could play Jolie if they make a movie of her (which they probably will)..

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  273. Up the Coast said on July 17th, 2012 at 3:44 pm

    @joanne:
    She really does LOOK healthier! And sometimes she sounds more SANE than joLIE :shock:

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  274. Guest2 said on July 17th, 2012 at 4:40 pm

    Uh-oh, Jaime Foxx said he wants jen and brad to get back together. I don’t think he realizes he’s set hmself up for a major loon attack.
    http://www.extratv.com/2012/07/16/jamie-foxx-commends-tom-cruise-for-divorce-etiquette/

    Have you guys seen the video clips of jen’s promo for the Ellen show? Very funny.

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  275. joanne said on July 17th, 2012 at 5:36 pm

    @Guest2:
    Why would he spout something stupid like that? Did Pitt need his name mentioned?

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  276. Guest2 said on July 17th, 2012 at 7:21 pm

    I don’t know why he said that but he does say some crazy things. Maybe pitt needed his name mentioned with jen’s so people remember the way he was :)

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  277. fluffy said on July 17th, 2012 at 7:28 pm

    Angelina Jolie

    HA HA You call JA Manniston. You would have been better off stealing her body instead off her husband as you would probably still look as good as your Mr and Mrs Smith Days (Long Gone).

    Give us some bikini photos of you (not 10 years ago) and we can compare them on the weeding day.
    You will have to advise us when the photos are available as you no longer make front cover in Australia.
    Except from you right skinny leg

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  278. joanne said on July 17th, 2012 at 8:13 pm

    @Guest2:
    :lol: he is a long way off from his Aniston days, its going to take more than that. Now i see Pitt and think smelly old goat.

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  279. joanne said on July 17th, 2012 at 8:14 pm

    @fluffy:
    :lol:

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  280. Guest2 said on July 17th, 2012 at 8:23 pm

    @joanne:
    That’s how most people see him. I wonder why we haven’t seen him since his dinner date with clooney.

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  281. Patty Anne said on July 17th, 2012 at 9:30 pm

    With all his problems finishing WWZ and his silent treatment of the dirctor he selected I’d say he’s embarassed and afraid of more ridicule. Also, he doesn’t want too much of a connection with his GIRLFRIEND/baby mamma while she’s fighting off her plagiarism lawsuit. Oh woe is the Joli-Pittifuls, the once mighty have fallen.@Guest2:

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  282. joanne said on July 17th, 2012 at 9:43 pm

    @Patty Anne:
    He has been laughed at since hooking up with Jolie, by me anyway.

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  283. Up the Coast said on July 17th, 2012 at 11:26 pm

    @joanne:
    By me too :) Who, in their right mind, leaves their wife and hooks up with the town pump? It’s SO cliche.

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  284. Patty Anne said on July 17th, 2012 at 11:42 pm

    And me too Joanne. I don’t know how to explain this, but from the first time I saw them together something seemed “wrong” to me, they didn’t look as if they “belonged” together. I’d always thought Angelina Jolie would be with a Justin Theroux type and not a sissy-boy like Brad wanna-be-Clooney Pitt. @joanne:

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  285. Patty Anne said on July 17th, 2012 at 11:44 pm

    But I will add this: I am super glad Jennifer and Justin got together and yes, they do seem to fit as a couple. Same sense of humor, same goals and interests, and as Jen said, they go to sleep some nights reading scripts/stories together. They enjoy being together and that’s a recipe for a great relationship.@Patty Anne:

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  286. fluffy said on July 18th, 2012 at 5:33 am

    Anjelina Jolie

    The best plastic surgeons in the US why do you look so old?
    You refer to JA as “Maniston ” but why do you look so old? JA has access to the same medical staff as you.
    So what is your excuse?

    Please justifiy what you call JA Manniston when you look like OLD SHITE! Drug addicted whore.

    Please do something to make Brad look in LOVE WITH YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

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  287. fluffy said on July 18th, 2012 at 5:33 am

    Anjelina Jolie

    The best plastic surgeons in the US why do you look so old?
    You refer to JA as “Maniston ” but why do you look so old? JA has access to the same medical staff as you.
    So what is your excuse?

    Please justifiy what you call JA Manniston when you look like OLD SHITE! Drug addicted whore.

    Please do something to make Brad look in LOVE WITH YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

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  288. Tetta said on July 18th, 2012 at 11:10 am

    @Patty Anne:

    Poor Angelina and Brad ! It must be a hard time fore them. Their lies don´t work anymore.
    I don´t know how much money that are waisted when the production of WWZ stands still but I guess it´s expensive. In the head of Ian´s clue it says they are acutely aware of that they are worth money. Of course I don´t know what that means but it could be they are in acutely in need of money. And I don´t know so much about the law and plagiarism either. But since the book and Angelinas movie describes the same thing so many times I think J Braddock has the upper hand. I look forward to see how these debacles end. :) I can´t help smiling !

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  289. Patty Anne said on July 18th, 2012 at 12:14 pm

    I feel the same; it’s good to see people are waking up to how they’ve been used to create this monster called Brangelina. They’ve put out in interviews comments that they intensely dislike their Loons, yet it’s they who have made them so well known. Certainly movie goers who wish to be entertained with a good film and solid acting wouldn’t waste their money on these two. The box office on their films proves that. And seriously, who could get excited over a phony lurv story about a 50 y/o man and a 38 y/o woman who share the responsibility of six children yet don’t care enough about one another to marry? They are beating a dead horse.@Tetta:

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  290. WCKitty said on July 18th, 2012 at 1:03 pm

    Over at FF, there are two different threads with links to other sites that are about Jane Pitt making Angie angry. One is that Jane has been purchasing girl clothes for Shiloh and the other is that Jane has supposedly bought Angie a $130 Bible as a wedding gift. The Bible story of course comes complete with a comment from a therapist stating that the gift will drive a wedge between her and her future daughter-in-law. So I guess Jane is the fall-guy in the so called upcoming split?
    http://www.femalefirst.co.uk/board/viewtopic.php?f=40&t=317223

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  291. Up the Coast said on July 18th, 2012 at 1:37 pm

    @WCKitty:
    :lol: What DO you get the woman who has everything??? A door stop! :lol: I just wish these stories were true…I’d love to see Shiloh in a cute little fairy costume, and see joLIE spontaneously combust :shock: she is a method actor, afterall.

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  292. WR said on July 18th, 2012 at 1:44 pm

    Keeping track of one’s lies can be a full-time job. Some enterprising reporter would do a great favor to the public if they’d note them. Say, one column of their orig statement; then, the other column of what really went on. For instance, the many times Angie made public statements that she’d retire, (this, just before a new film was premiered), vs the obvious.
    Now, Brad said he’d retire “in three years” last year. Lies? You can almost bet the rent on this one!!

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  293. Guest2 said on July 18th, 2012 at 1:46 pm

    @WCKitty:
    I saw that at ff and was thinking the same. She’ll throw jane under the bus to make herself come out looking good. I’m sure jane won’t mind, she’ll be happy to be rid of her. IF they split. I still don’t believe they will. Personally, I think it would be more fun for us if they have a wedding. If they split we won’t have anything to talk about. I vote for a wedding. She can wear her black tent and hat. You hate to see a split because they’re so hard on children. It made me sad to see those pix of tom with suri. As much as he creeps me out with the cos stuff and what he might be saying to her he is still her father and I’m sure they love each other. I found it interesting that as weird as tom is he seems to have more loving interaction with his daughter than I’ve ever seen between brad and his kids, at least in the pics I’ve seen.

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  294. WCKitty said on July 18th, 2012 at 1:49 pm

    @Up the Coast:
    That would be a wonderful sight! :lol: Hmmm, I wonder if the Bible story is true, what pages Jane has bookmarked for Angie! :D

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  295. Guest2 said on July 18th, 2012 at 1:51 pm

    Brad will be working in movies for a long, long time to support those kids in the global lifestyle their mother has given them. Nannies, tutors, bodyguards, private jets, rental mansions aren’t cheap. Given his track record I don’t think he has much of a future as a producer unless he stops with the vanity projects and starts producing movies that actually make money.

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  296. WCKitty said on July 18th, 2012 at 2:15 pm

    @Guest2:
    I agree that there will probably be a wedding and Angie will wear her flowing black-tent, black wide-brimmed hat and beige shoes. Her wedding bouquet will consist of black roses and poppies. There is a chance that Angie is probably attempting to put distance between Brad’s parents and him and the family.

    With Tom, I don’t care for him as a person (I think he has control issues), but I do think he is a good actor. He does appear to have a better relationship with Suri when compared to Brad and his children.

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  297. Patty Anne said on July 18th, 2012 at 2:36 pm

    Just a head’s up to all who Tweet:

    http://www.ediscoverydaily.com/2012/07/ediscovery-case-law-tweets-are-public-and-must-be-produced-judge-rules.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+ediscoverydaily+%28eDiscovery+Daily%29

    eDiscovery Case Law: “Tweets” Are Public and Must Be Produced, Judge Rules

    Be aware.

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  298. Up the Coast said on July 18th, 2012 at 2:39 pm

    @WCKitty:
    Uhm…Book of Revelations, the Whore of Babylon?

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  299. WCKitty said on July 18th, 2012 at 2:49 pm

    @Up the Coast:
    :lol:

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  300. Guest2 said on July 18th, 2012 at 4:33 pm

    Did we ever figure out if there is a clue in Ian’s post? I thought Tetta had a good idea with the Kellogg’s and Coca-cola comment. I know we all say they are a brand but how exactly are they worth more together than apart? Where are they making money as a brand that they wouldn’t make separately?

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  301. Guest2 said on July 18th, 2012 at 4:35 pm

    @Patty Anne:
    I don’t use twitter but I wonder if that’s why Ian hasn’t given us a twitter clue in such a long time.

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  302. Patty Anne said on July 18th, 2012 at 5:33 pm

    I honestly don’t know but I’d guess it’s Summer vacation time so perhaps he’s enjoying the sun down in Miami? I just thought I’d post that as my granddaughter sent it to me as an FYI… :-0
    @Guest2:

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  303. Tetta said on July 18th, 2012 at 6:31 pm

    @Guest2:

    Yes, I still think there is a message in this post. As the source said ” They certainly have their business together, If they split they would lose a fortune. They’re worth much more together and they are acutely aware of it. Brangelina is a world brand, just like Kelloggs and Coca Cola.”
    They don´t have love together, they have “business” together. I think they work as a team with something illegal, probably drugs. And why are they “acutely” aware of that they are worth more together. It can´t be about roles in movies because I believe their careers are over.

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  304. joanne said on July 18th, 2012 at 6:48 pm

    @Tetta:
    This makes sense.

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  305. Siska said on July 18th, 2012 at 7:50 pm

    @Guest2:
    I saw it. Love the clips,jen is game to make fool of herself. This is why I’m on Jen team,she used common sense tools to promote her image,not trying to be a saint or using kids. She used pets,bf and her comedy skills,and they all fair game. But everyone different.
    I love that she willing to help out her friends,vice versa.
    I found Jamie fox comment either he try to make a joke of how silly the tabs was,or he actually means something,cause he worked with Jen on HB and jtx on Miami vice.mmmm interesting.

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  306. Siska said on July 18th, 2012 at 7:55 pm

    The movie is too long@Liz E.: I think the Katrina part is ok,but the way they tell the story was soo slow,even on the DVD ,I have to ff couple of time.
    It’s the director decision to make it that way,I don’t think Pitt has anything to do.

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  307. Siska said on July 18th, 2012 at 8:00 pm

    @martha:
    I’m with you,this couple will stay as long as possible. 6 kids is a lifetime commitment. Marriage is a contract between two people and they are 8 people,so it will last longer than his previous marriage.
    I am concern of the way Angie look nowadays ..she seem either over stress or overwork. It’s seem they not follow they rule of never leave each other more than 3 days and never work in the same time..another “change of mind” moment from Angie.

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  308. Up the Coast said on July 18th, 2012 at 8:24 pm

    @Siska:
    Thanks for reminding me that Jamie Fox was in HB…I knew he was teasing, and I knew he had worked with Jen, but I totally spaced where it was. (duh) ;)

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  309. joanne said on July 18th, 2012 at 9:13 pm

    @Up the Coast:
    So it was tongue in cheek? Thats okay then :lol:

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  310. Guest2 said on July 18th, 2012 at 9:19 pm

    I wonder where national enquirer is getting these stories about jane getting the bible as a wedding gift for angie. Supposedly the book store owner who sold the bible to jane told NE that he and jane prayed for brad and angie’s well being. Apparently angie is furious about that. If it weren’t for jane’s letter to the newspaper you’d think it was made up but I get the feeling it’s true? And where the heck is brad? The man sure knows how to hide when he wants to.

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  311. Up the Coast said on July 19th, 2012 at 12:42 pm

    @joanne:
    I think he was joking…he is a comedian, right? ;)

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  312. joanne said on July 19th, 2012 at 12:48 pm

    @Up the Coast:
    :lol: a good one too.

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  313. joanne said on July 19th, 2012 at 12:49 pm

    @joanne:
    He was good in HB. It was a great cast.

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  314. Up the Coast said on July 19th, 2012 at 12:50 pm

    @Guest2:
    She should have gotten her a cookbook :lol:

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  315. Guest2 said on July 19th, 2012 at 2:21 pm

    @Up the Coast:
    :lol: So many possibilities for insulting the woman with carefully chosen gifts.

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  316. whatever said on July 19th, 2012 at 2:35 pm

    @Guest2:

    Well we now know where Brad gets is passive aggressiveness from, huh?

    His own mother!

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  317. Guest2 said on July 19th, 2012 at 3:00 pm

    @whatever:
    I can’t figure out what’s going on lately. Jane’s been quiet for a long time and appeared when needed to support angie. Now she ’s written the letter to the newspaper which could just be her expressing a political view in response to another letter that was written to the newspaper. She’s entitled to her opinion like the rest of us. The story about the bible and praying for brangie is only tabloid gossip as far as we know. Her son is definitely passive-aggressive but I’ll reserve judgement on her for the moment and cut her some slack. I don’t know what I’d do if my son or brother brought home an evil witch like that who goes against everything moral or decent that you want for your loved ones.

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  318. WCKitty said on July 19th, 2012 at 3:56 pm

    @Guest2:
    I agree that she may have been just expressing her right to an opinion. However, I also believe that she had to have known that the tabs would have published what she wrote. Not only because of her being a celebrity’s mom, but also because she is Brad’s mom and possibly Angie’s future mother-in-law (both infamous for their pro-gay marriage stance). I don’t know if the other stories are true. If they are, then something must have happened.

    My son had a relationship with a girl who I did not like. In fact, the whole family did not like her. We kept our mouths shut because I had to have faith that my son would end the relationship. It was scary because it became harder as time went by to not say anything. The more involved they became, the more she displayed the behavior of a sociopath. She was isolating him even on holidays and always had to be the center of attention. They did part and she spent years trying to destroy my son. You just don’t break-up and walk away from people who have certain personality disorders. Maybe Jane is protecting her son by putting herself out their as Angie’s target.

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  319. Guest2 said on July 19th, 2012 at 4:28 pm

    @WCKitty:
    I’m glad your son finally got away. Thank God there weren’t any children involved. I don’t know what Jane’s motivations are or if she realized how far her comments would reach but I’m cutting her some slack because of who her potential daughter in law is. There are also children involved and I’m sure jane knows a lot more than we do about what goes on in that family so unless she does something really crazy (I don’t consider her letter crazy whether I agree with her views or not) I’ll give her the benefit of the doubt. I wouldn’t want to be in her shoes even with all the money.

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  320. Guest2 said on July 19th, 2012 at 5:24 pm

    @Guest2:
    It’s interesting that jon voight rushed to Jane’s defense. I wonder if angie is mad at him too.

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  321. Renee said on July 19th, 2012 at 7:24 pm

    You are the best here. Never disappointing! Lol! @I’m on the bidet:

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  322. Up the Coast said on July 19th, 2012 at 7:41 pm

    @Guest2:
    +1

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  323. Up the Coast said on July 19th, 2012 at 7:43 pm

    @WCKitty:
    I hope she knows what she’s doing then. Glad to hear your son got out with his life, some people aren’t that lucky, so good for him!

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  324. WCKitty said on July 19th, 2012 at 8:50 pm

    @Guest2:
    @Up the Coast:

    woops “there” instead of “their” in my previous post. :lol:

    I wouldn’t want to be Jane Pitt either. I’ve never wanted to be famous because I value my privacy. To lose that privacy because your child(ren) become a celebrity/politician would be a mixed blessing. You are happy for them since they achieved their dream, but at the same time you lose your privacy; especially if you are a parent of someone like Brad Pitt. Jane does have the right to speak-up for what she believes in, but if I were her I would fear Angie’s wrath. Angie is known for cutting her father out of her life, so would she cut Jane off from the children? Brad? That is why I wonder why Jane went ahead and wrote that letter. Did she just take the chance and think nobody would notice because it is an election year or did she found out something that upset her? Brad is sure being quiet!

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  325. Guest2 said on July 19th, 2012 at 9:08 pm

    @WCKitty:
    He’s just dropped out of sight completely. It’s a bit weird for someone who loves the limelight so much and is pursued by the paps. Do we need to put his face on milk cartons?

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  326. Guest2 said on July 19th, 2012 at 9:09 pm

    @Guest2:
    Maybe one of the FF photoshop gals can do it. There are some talented women there.

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  327. WCKitty said on July 19th, 2012 at 9:14 pm

    @Guest2:
    Like this one? :lol:

    http://www.femalefirst.co.uk/board/viewtopic.php?f=40&t=317276

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  328. WCKitty said on July 19th, 2012 at 9:17 pm

    @Guest2:
    There are some very talented women on that site. I rarely post over there, but I love to look at the pictures and read some of the posts. It is good to look at things from others viewpoints – except for the crazy loons. I don’t even think they know what they are attempting to say.

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  329. Guest2 said on July 19th, 2012 at 9:52 pm

    @WCKitty:
    Those pics were funny though the one of jen was kind of mean. I don’t post at FF, just here, but I like to check in there as they seem to find a lot of good information. There aren’t as many photoshopped pictures anymore. Maybe they’re growing tired of brangie. The lol and illiterate loon don’t make any sense whatever so I just skip over what they say.

    Well, good night all.

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  330. thetruthbeknown said on July 19th, 2012 at 11:36 pm

    A fundamental truth that women do not like. As recently as last week, on major US News Sites were reported some extremely disturbing stories. One such story was in Papua New Gineau. A chief Law enforcement official has arrested 29 known cannibals, eight of which were women. They had taken their respective victims, supposedly witch doctors, and murdered them. The claim was made that these supposed witch doctors were charging to high a price regarding their fees. The cannibal women openly admitted to the murders further stating that they had eaten their victims brains raw, and had literally made soup from their severed penises. This was but one story that was followed after a series of murders in southern Mexico of two women and a man openly admitting to murdering several people, grinding them up to make empanadas that they then openly sold on the streets to US based tourist, after eating their fill beforehand.

    Recently a member of this thread reported, the DNA experiments, ongoing in England to combine three sets of human DNA. The English government has been attempting to accomplish this for some time. It is an program that is a sister program, undertaken by the British government to also test the growing of human hybrid beings that are part animal of various types. All for military purposes.

    We have had numerous bath salts drug overdoses reported in the US media that have resulted in people literally murdering others on US streets and attempting to eat their victims faces and brains.

    There are other forces at work that want to also force sex change operations on US males in order to turn them into women augmented by surgical means in contravention to federal and state law. Your tax dollars at work. Obviously the the lesbian, gay, bi, and transgendered communities at their political best, as they seek some sort of verification of medical procedures, before using the same procedures for their own respective self gratification. The same group was attempting to force certain people to be used as research examples to test aids and hiv vaccines, against their will. First by infecting them, and then testing various vaccine protocols upon them. Talk about human and civil rights violations, geeezzzee!!!

    It must be nice to be some holey weird faggot, with various beards, so you can go out and bugger away to your hearts content!!! Get infected, and demand that anyone be used for vaccine testing so that you can continue to azz buggert!!!

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  331. thetruthbeknown said on July 19th, 2012 at 11:47 pm

    Don’t worry, the Scienos and Lroy Flubbturd can fix your faggotness, or at least they claim they can. I guess we could tell pitiful’s mommy, that the Scienos have everything well in hand, if you know what I mean. Maybe Jolly chuckle yuckle bobble head would be interested then. The again, maybe I am being a silly pratty barker blooter and balderick!! Where is my black Addwe when I need IT!!!!!

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  332. Angelina Jolie said on July 20th, 2012 at 2:40 am

    @WCKitty:
    Just call you WC!

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  333. Siska said on July 20th, 2012 at 2:49 am

    @Up the Coast:i have that kinda duh moment too..we getting old..he.,he and with multitasking ( on of woman specialty skill) ..it’s not helping..he,,he
    I think he is joking( I hope so), like jbateman joking that Jen always play Rachel on her movie when they interview him on the HB junket.

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  334. Siska said on July 20th, 2012 at 2:52 am

    @WCKitty:She actually look good fat,specially gweneth,but Jen look really bad,they put one of the bad picture of fat face

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  335. Guest2 said on July 20th, 2012 at 7:24 am

    @WCKitty:
    Speaking of CRAZY LOONS…..

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  336. Up the Coast said on July 20th, 2012 at 12:21 pm

    What has happened in Colorado? My cynical mind cannot help but SEE another manchurian has been “set off” to change the “channel”, so to speak, on either the news or the campaign trail? Now….we have a reason to be united, instead of divided, like we were yesterday….hmm. Also….what is a 3 yr old doing in a midnight showing of a Batman movie? 3 yr olds should be at home in bed!

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  337. Up the Coast said on July 20th, 2012 at 12:33 pm

    I guess the message is…..Be afraid people, be very afraid! Or, if someone in that theatre would have had a gun, they could have put a stop to it, with one bullet to his head…just sayin’

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  338. WCKitty said on July 20th, 2012 at 12:41 pm

    @Guest2:
    @Siska:
    I didn’t see the picture of Jen until you two mentioned it, so I went back and looked again. Yes, she doesn’t look good with that much weight on her.

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  339. Guest2 said on July 20th, 2012 at 12:51 pm

    @Up the Coast:
    I don’t know what’s going on but I have to say I’m beginning to believe in the conspiracy. This is just too bizzare and there is some incredibly frightening stuff going on in this country (and the world). I guess the good thing is that they got him alive so we’ll find out if he acted alone or if there are more like him out there. I suspect the latter.

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  340. Up the Coast said on July 20th, 2012 at 1:38 pm

    @Guest2:
    We’ll find out whatever it is “they” want us to find out. I noticed that our prez, who claims to be a christian, didn’t say “amen” after his prayer….he said: Thank You????

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  341. Dream said on July 20th, 2012 at 1:40 pm

    @Liz E.:
    I was lucky to have my best friend come into my life the day she was born. I flat lined after having her and have tried to remember every day with her is a gift i am not guaranteed.

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  342. Dream said on July 20th, 2012 at 1:50 pm

    @Up the Coast:
    i got a phone call the other day that in the next couple weeks a low flying plane would be spraying our area for mosquitoes. funny they have always sprayed from a truck till now.

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  343. Dream said on July 20th, 2012 at 3:19 pm

    @HisHighness:
    ty, good read.

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  344. Patty Anne said on July 20th, 2012 at 3:58 pm

    I hate to see any family embroiled in a battle over a loved one’s will, especially this family considering all the controversy they’ve been involved in over the years. You would think there would be a mediation within the family to resolve this privately and peacefully because declairing war on family members over a will only creates more anguish and loss. Michael loved his mother we all know, and we also know how very much he loved his three children. They were taken care of so that should make the rest of the Jackson family happy and proud that Michael saw to their needs when he was no longer alive. Michael’s talent and hard work earned that money and just being a blood relative , imo, doesn’t mean they are entitled to any of Michael’s money. If he felt he owed any of his siblings money he had plenty of years to give them such, which from articles I’ve read over his career he did and did it most generously. No, I don’t feel his siblings are right morally, to take this to courts. The estate was millions of dollars in debt when Michael died, did any of his brothers or sisters race to pay his debts or to support his children financially? I doubt it. I hope they all come to their greedy senses and realize that Michael did it his way and deserves respect from his family in death that he never received in his life. Just my opinion of course.

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  345. Up the Coast said on July 20th, 2012 at 4:15 pm

    Money rarely brings out the best in people. I wonder if the sibs are paying their attorney’s or if they are working on a contingency? ugh….

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  346. WR said on July 20th, 2012 at 4:36 pm

    The Hopis are noted as being the most spiritual of all the tribes. Some years back I read that they were
    calling their people back to their land. And then, the History Channel, and certain weekly tabloids gave us warnings about the end times. But, says the History Channel, it’s to be the end of a certain era in human history, rather than Armaggedon. Others called it a “cleansing” by The Supreme Being using Mother Nature. Many seers prophecied about “Three Days of Darkness”.
    I say this because society seems to be plunging ever further into darkness. People up north are denying global warming exists. They demand proof in writing, calling the pros, “weak liberals”, among other labels.
    From my chair, I have the inner horror of witnessing history repeat itself. The land the natives have occupied for melennia is now coveted by the rich oil companies, particularly Shell Oil. The new non-native invaders are after the land as well. They want to build bridges in heretofore inaccesible areas along the Yukon. Even worse, there are the half-breeds who want to get rich off the land of their ancestors at the expense of the simpler natives. And they coldly enforce their will on them. To me, that’s the worst evil of all.
    The salmon the natives depend on to get thru the winter is depleted. In the past, those half-breeds would lionize the river run of salmon at the expense of the less-sophisticated who trusted them. Also, the villages are now under water due to the warming. And the conservatives are practically laughing it off. They feel the liberals are too weak to fight for their beliefs.
    I, personally, tried to warn the natives; but the half, (and even more), breeds are in power up there.
    So, are the Hopis right? The world does seem to be on a downward spiral. If so, most everybody’s at fault, imo!

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  347. WCKitty said on July 20th, 2012 at 5:59 pm

    @WR:

    I care about the environment, so in that since I am a liberal. I have friends that are Republicans who also care about the environment. We all don’t share the same viewpoints on certain subjects, but in the end we all need an Earth where it is safe to breathe, eat, and drink. If people don’t believe in Global Warming then fine, but they should care about the destruction of the environment. They should care that corporations and others are polluting our waterways and air. They should care that we are destroying our forests and therefore destroying plants that may prove one day to be beneficial in helping cure a disease. They should care that we are poisoning and killing off our food-chain. Mankind is not improving the Earth, we are destroying it with careless arrogance.

    We have Native Americans here in California that are getting wealthy from the casinos that they are allowed to run. I have read where others are suing because they aren’t allowed to profit due to not being considered part of the tribe. Then you read where there is trouble on other Reservations due to crime and poverty.

    In the end, we can’t take our earthly possessions with us, just our souls. Some people just don’t appear to have one. Who wants to be remembered for helping to destroy the environment (food, water, and air) for future generations?

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  348. Dream said on July 20th, 2012 at 8:51 pm

    Just a little update. The mosquito truck came thru town tonight, so what was the plane spraying?

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  349. Up the Coast said on July 20th, 2012 at 9:32 pm

    @Dream:
    POISON :(

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  350. Up the Coast said on July 20th, 2012 at 9:49 pm

    @Dream:
    Sorry….but I feel like a real Debbie Downer today :(

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  351. joanne said on July 20th, 2012 at 11:53 pm

    @Up the Coast:
    A lot of people are down today. :(

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  352. WR said on July 21st, 2012 at 1:07 am

    @WCKitty:
    Mother Nature is giving us a lot of warning. Canadian forests are attacked by beetles that are not native to their area. Alaskans have observed birds that never migrated that far north.
    I”ve heard that the cold waters of the extreme north are highly polluted. And it’s because the waters are too cold to dissipate the chemicals that are flooding the oceans. But certain republicans are in denial. And they really believe global warming has not been proven to their satisfaction. It’s up to independents, it seems, to take control of dispatching more information.
    Brazil is now the sixth richest country in the world. But the rain forests are being destroyed. These forests are rich in nature’s healing resources.
    I can’t help but feel that Alaska will be all but destroyed by human greed, based on human history.

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  353. Dream said on July 21st, 2012 at 2:52 am

    @Up the Coast:
    If you knew how high the birthrate is for mentally disabled children in my town and cancer you would not think that was just a downer answer.
    there are around 2000 people here and its not uncommon to go to the grocery store and run into 4 or 5 disabled people. cancer is jsut scary here.
    i have 3 friends of friends that are young girs in their early 20’s with down babies.
    like i said we always have trucks spray for mosquito control. don’t like the poison of that but we have had several deaths in the last few yrs from mossquito bites so i understand it. but the other day i got a automated phone call saying they would be spraying from a plane over my area. the call had all the info on what kind of plane it wsa going to be and what height it would be lol. maybe they were scared a bubba would think it was a big turkey and shoot it down.
    any way it was weird. then the truck came by too so that was odd.

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  354. Dream said on July 21st, 2012 at 2:54 am

    @WR:
    mother nature is not happy. shes made that very clear lately.
    it’s frustrating to hear someone say global warming is a crock. i keeep thinking how can people be that blind?

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  355. Guest2 said on July 21st, 2012 at 8:23 am

    @HisHighness:
    Thanks for linking the article. It will be interesting to see if another will turns up. Whatever happens I would hate to see his father get his hands on any of Michael’s money.

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  356. janindisguise said on July 21st, 2012 at 12:42 pm

    @Guest2:

    His father is unusual in that he’s a monster that actually LOOKS like a monster IMO.

    Referencing MJ.

    And hello all.

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  357. WCKitty said on July 21st, 2012 at 1:14 pm

    Wow, I see that my grammar was terrible yesterday – “sense” not “since” and “who are” not “that are”

    @WR:
    I agree with you. Shell Oil is being relentless in its fight to drill for oil in the Artic. We should be concentrating on decreasing our need for oil while finding alternative sources. Of course, that is not what the oil companies want at this time as I am sure they know of alternatives, but haven’t figured out a way to get wealthy off of it yet. The Rainforest is also another sad example of human greed.

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  358. WCKitty said on July 21st, 2012 at 1:16 pm

    It was a good article Ian.

    @Guest2:
    @janindisguise:
    I have never liked that man after hearing how he treated his children, especially Michael.

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  359. Tetta said on July 21st, 2012 at 3:00 pm

    @janindisguise:
    Hello jan ! He is an ugly man :evil:

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  360. Up the Coast said on July 21st, 2012 at 3:30 pm

    @joanne:
    xxxxxx

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  361. Guest2 said on July 21st, 2012 at 3:40 pm

    @janindisguise:
    Hi Jan, nice to “see” you again. Yes, he is that.

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  362. Up the Coast said on July 21st, 2012 at 3:44 pm

    @Dream:
    I’m no expert, but I think they use chemicals (poison) that halts the female mosquito’s ability to lay eggs…could it effect humans? Probably.

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  363. Up the Coast said on July 21st, 2012 at 3:45 pm

    @janindisguise:
    Hey Jan

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  364. Guest2 said on July 21st, 2012 at 4:17 pm

    @WCKitty:
    I was in a UPS store near my work yesterday that is owned by Brazilians. They had a large map of South America on the wall with Brazil highlighted. I was so surprised at how large a country it is. I knew it was the largest in S.A. but seeing it visually and that it makes up nearly 50% of the continent made an impression. A picture really is worth a 1,000 words, I guess. When I read your post about the rainforests I googled and learned that 1/3 of the world’s remaining rainforests are in brazil. I truly hope they halt the rate of deforestation down there but it doesn’t seem likely that they will. Who says you can’t learn anything at IUC. Thanks, WCK for the info.

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  365. Guest2 said on July 21st, 2012 at 4:18 pm

    @Guest2:
    delete “a”.

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  366. Leon Spinks said on July 21st, 2012 at 4:20 pm

    Manne do you see that moufe on that Angelina, it could enhale a nice piece of my flesh!

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  367. Guest2 said on July 21st, 2012 at 4:21 pm

    In other news, it seems angie has angered the family of Muhammed Ali if we are to believe the NE:

    http://www.nationalenquirer.com/celebrity/muhammad-ali-kin-rope-dopes-angelina-jolie

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  368. WCKitty said on July 21st, 2012 at 5:40 pm

    @Guest2:

    I have learned a lot from posters on this site. There was a video I watched in college with Tom Eisner that really explained how important biodiversity is to all of us.

    I can’t find the video, but noticed there is biodiversity video posted by PGE up on Youtube. The following is a long video sent to me via email and it is from a different viewpoint. I don’t know if any of you have Smart Meters, but if true, this is scary:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FLeCTaSG2-U&feature=player_embedded

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  369. joanne said on July 21st, 2012 at 6:55 pm

    http://www.powersource.com/gallery/people/joseph.html

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  370. janindisguise said on July 21st, 2012 at 6:56 pm

    Well hi UTC, the Dreams, Joanne and all.

    You know I’ve studying up on the Holmes kid, his family and background, doncha? I read in a San Diego newspaper (where is the only place I found family info. at all). I learned that after high school the Holmes kid went to a place where they do this stuff: http://www.frontiersin.org/Systems_Neuroscience/10.3389/fnsys.2012.00048/abstract

    Basically, that is where there is screwing around with the brain, or mk ultra of different sorts. That is not the name of the place in LaJolla, CA. I’d have to find that again on that newspaper site. His mother an RN and the father, a scientist with a military haircut, for lack of a better word.

    My deduction at this time is he’s another programmed and triggered individual that certain individuals in high places create for “political” reasons – I prefer to call it evil. I guess the Zimmerman thing didn’t work to start chaos so they try this. My personal belief is that the agenda here is to disarm everyone just as Hitler did before his big takeover. I believe so many people are so awake and are waking up that this is just not going to work. We, “sheeple”, do learn from history.

    And furthermore, GOD is still on the throne and hears our prayers. I saw a quote of one of the parents of a victim in the cinema who stated “don’t let this affect your Faith”. I say Amen and Amen.

    I will not be fearful to tread about on this great country going about my business and trying to help wherever possible.

    I can only connnect this with the subject matter here is the UN will be the ones who try to collect the guns from the middle class. Yep, the UN. The “elites” are gonna have guns and the career criminals will obtain theirs. The ones in the middle are the ones who possibly face challenges – but like I said – we ARE AWAKE!

    I have made these comments simply because I sick and tired of these programmed assassins popping up all over the place. Just Sick. May their masters go straight to Hell, and may the victims’ families enjoy the Peace of the Lord.

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  371. janindisguise said on July 21st, 2012 at 7:00 pm

    At Westview High School, James ran cross-country and played soccer. After graduating in 2006, he went on to complete an eight-week internship at the Salk Institute and Miramar College’s biotechnology “boot camp.” That summer program drew bright, driven kids like Claire Sampankanpanich, now a third-year medical school student at Johns Hopkins University in Maryland.

    from
    UTsandiego.com

    They’ve got it all fluffed up in the article.

    Shalom

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  372. joanne said on July 21st, 2012 at 7:10 pm

    @janindisguise:
    Could be Pitt needs more weapons and Jolies friends, the UN are helping out.

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  373. Up the Coast said on July 21st, 2012 at 10:08 pm

    @WCKitty:
    I have SoCal Edison…would I have a smart meter??? good grief, something new to worry about ;)

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  374. Up the Coast said on July 21st, 2012 at 10:09 pm

    @joanne:
    And that’s how simple it should be.

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  375. Up the Coast said on July 21st, 2012 at 10:21 pm

    @janindisguise:
    It definitely “changed the channel” and brought FEAR back into the spotlight.

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  376. Dream said on July 22nd, 2012 at 12:42 am

    @Up the Coast:
    i understand that. but theres no reason for a plane fly over with poison when we have a regular spray from a truck. we live in a residential area and we are the area targeted by the plane. i would understand the plane fly over if it were a wooded area.

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  377. uRstaringTOunderstand@ugetit.com said on July 22nd, 2012 at 2:07 am

    its called emotionalism. Anything that will destroy a clear and truthful view based upon context, frame of reference, and A CLEAR UNDENIABLE PERSPECTIVE, IS WHAT CAUSES THESE DANGEROUS TIMES!!!! Breaking marriages, family, cronyism, loss of manufacturing, and jobs, destroying the financial basis of this still great country, has always been the aim. Thinking clearly, now is the only hope we have, and it sure is not ole bling bliIf you consider the events that you’ve witnessed is just a short span of less than a year, when on Earth has it been this bad? We’ve gone through wars, depression, and more, and it has never been this bad, this divided, Never!!! Do you actually think these Holey wood pecker heads even care? let me tell you, they do not care, they will take their money, jets, and toys, and run run run. They wouldn’t look back for 1 second!!! Sitting here debating, talking old films is one thing, but seriously take a look around you, Rome is burning, Nero has picked up his violin, or fiddle!!!

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  378. WR said on July 22nd, 2012 at 2:27 am

    I will pray that London will be safe from terrorists!

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  379. WCKitty said on July 22nd, 2012 at 2:56 am

    @Up the Coast:
    I don’t know, but the person who sent me the link to the video does live down in your area. People are complaining about health problems that they are claiming started when the Smart Meters were installed, and according to the link in my previous post, they are able to monitor and sell information about your living habits and more. The following link has letters from different customers, including Encinitas and one in Florida. I don’t believe it is just PG&E installing these meters
    http://emfsafetynetwork.org/?page_id=2292

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  380. Tetta said on July 22nd, 2012 at 6:50 am

    @WR:

    It will be a challenge for the security team. Remember the massacre in Munich 1994. London has been a target for terror attics before and so have the Olympic Games. I will have terrorist in mind from day one until the final ceremony is over.

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  381. Tetta said on July 22nd, 2012 at 6:55 am

    @Tetta:

    I meant “terror attacks”. Right now I understood that it´s the spellchecker who can´t spell :)

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  382. joanne said on July 22nd, 2012 at 9:05 am

    @Guest2:
    I don’t blame his family. She makes a fool out of him everytime she takes her picture with him. Let the man have some dignity.

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  383. joanne said on July 22nd, 2012 at 9:07 am

    @Tetta:
    As long as we have uzis and other assault weapons we will have terrorism. Designed to kill humans.

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  384. joanne said on July 22nd, 2012 at 9:10 am

    @joanne:
    This can some confusing but I meant it probably wasn’t his imagination. I feel cymbalta owes me three years.

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  385. janindisguise said on July 22nd, 2012 at 10:00 am

    @joanne:

    Good mornin’.

    Cymbalta huh? Reminds me. I was about to go on a treatment that causes extreme depression, possible suicidal tendencies, etc. The nurse-prac. just about begged me to go on that particular brand of antidepressants. I continually said no I had decided on another kind. Shortly thereafter she left her position at the hospital. Guess where she went? To work as a pharmaceudical (sp?)representative. Ah yes.

    Even so, it has been really tough to get off of the stuff I had been taking. My Primary Physician kept telling me “don’t tell ‘em I suggested you get off of these” and all I really wanted to know is how to get off without my ears and head exploding. He did say taper off gradually. I thought damn, if I’m going to be physically dependent on something, at least it could have been something “good”. Heh.

    And that’s all I have to say about that (Forrest Gump).

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  386. janindisguise said on July 22nd, 2012 at 10:03 am

    @Tetta:
    I had read over a month ago that there is a big thing planned over there at the Olympics – something to do with Big Ben, etc. Then it’s announced that they are short 3,500+ security people 2 weeks prior to the event. I would say that something’s up there. Anyone planning on going? Don’t.

    It is said that many people who would normally go are not going this time.

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  387. janindisguise said on July 22nd, 2012 at 10:50 am

    To answer the question of the title of this thread: I don’t think an official breakup is scheduled for any time in the future. I think they have mucho on their plate right now.

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  388. janindisguise said on July 22nd, 2012 at 10:50 am

    To answer the question of the title of this thread: I don’t think an official breakup is scheduled for any time in the future. I think they have mucho on their plate right now.

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  389. Patty Anne said on July 22nd, 2012 at 12:03 pm

    Murdoch steps down. So Brangie’s lawsuit when he revealed their visit to their attorney’s and the signing of their legal separation agreement years ago brought the mighty Murdoch and NOTW down .

    Kathernie Jackson. “Her grandchildren fiiled a missing person’s report”….seems strange for this to occur immediately after Michael’s brothers and sisters filed a lawsuit to change Michael’s intentions from his will. This will be interesting to follow. I pray Katherine is well and safe somewhere.

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  390. Up the Coast said on July 22nd, 2012 at 12:26 pm

    @Dream:
    I agree it sounds like over kill.

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  391. Up the Coast said on July 22nd, 2012 at 12:28 pm

    @Patty Anne:
    Poor woman probably needed a frikken break! She’s surrounded by nutjobs.

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  392. Up the Coast said on July 22nd, 2012 at 12:40 pm

    @WCKitty:
    :( I need to check this out. It seems to me that someone did install a new meter awhile back. The electricity was out for no more than a minute, then came back on.

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  393. Up the Coast said on July 22nd, 2012 at 12:54 pm

    This morning on Face the Nation they interviewed the police chief in Aurora, CO. He said they are building a case to show that this was a deliberative process by a very intelligent man, and it’s going to take time. I thought the wording was odd….”they are building a case to show”….hmm. Then he said he really hadn’t had time to be briefed by his detectives yet.
    They also talked about what may have set him off. One of the ideas was that he graduated with a degree in neuro science and couldn’t find a job, so he ended up working at McDonald’s….I guess that would do it. But where did he get $20,000 to buy all those weapons?

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  394. janindisguise said on July 22nd, 2012 at 2:32 pm

    @Up the Coast:
    You would be a great investigator. Good point!

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  395. WR said on July 22nd, 2012 at 3:54 pm

    @Tetta:
    This is why I believe in the power of prayer.
    NBC will again televise the Olympics. For those of you who are fortunate enough to see ALL nations compete, and their strories told, I tip my hat to you. We, who have to depend on NBC will have to most probably endure their jingoistic reportage. It doesn’t occur to them that many of us hunger to see competitors from other countries. But they exclude even some gold medalists in favor of an also-ran from the U.S.
    Example? Well, a German competitor won the gold medal in the 50 metre freestyle final in the last Olympics. Just a brief mention of her; but they gave an extended coverage to a U.S.A. runner-up for the rest of the segment. Didn’t occur to them that we already knew all about her, already. Now, we will be subjected to endless coverage of the Ryan Lochte/Michael Phelps swimming rivalry. Some of it is fine, but too much will be made of it! Makes it very un-enjoyable for some of us, who want to see something about the rest of the world. Now, I’ve heard this compaint from other Americans. A famous, esteemed actor, Gregory Peck, once criticized NBC’s jingoism.

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  396. Patty Anne said on July 22nd, 2012 at 3:56 pm

    Amen to that. Seems the greed is overtaking good sense in that family. MJ would turn over in his grave if he knew how his siblings were upsetting his beloved mother and his children over cold, hard cash. @Up the Coast:

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  397. WR said on July 22nd, 2012 at 3:57 pm

    When I said I believe in the power of prayer, it was in reference to the evil of terrorism.

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  398. Up the Coast said on July 22nd, 2012 at 4:17 pm

    @WCKitty:
    My meter has a digital read out, so it seems that it is one of these smart meters. It sits at the outside corner of the garage :cry:

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  399. Up the Coast said on July 22nd, 2012 at 4:25 pm

    @janindisguise:
    I tend to question everything anymore, even at the risk of sounding like a nut. Usually they use the word “alledgedly”, even when they catch someone red handed, and I think: WHAT!?! What do you mean, alledgedly! They were caught red handed! But I didn’t hear that word today…..why?

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  400. WCKitty said on July 22nd, 2012 at 4:32 pm

    @Up the Coast:
    Mine too. I had know idea that these meters were reported to be so dangerous. Even if you are able to replace your meter, if your neighbors meter is too close to your home, then you will still have problems. Some people are complaining that they have problems when they go for a walk. What about all the businesses that are exposing their employees and customers to the danger etc.? And the gas/electric companies knew of the danger! Do the workers who are installing these meters know of the danger that their employer is subjecting them too? Does upper management have Smart Meters on their homes? Evil companies! I could say more, but I will shut-up for now.

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  401. joanne said on July 22nd, 2012 at 4:44 pm

    @janindisguise:
    I wasn’t ignoring you i got company and got off. good afternoon.

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  402. Dream said on July 22nd, 2012 at 5:19 pm

    @WCKitty:
    remember when they discovered computer screens caused miscarriages? there was a rumor my old boss did not change the ones in our office when the law came out requiring it. very interesting that there were a high percentage of miscarriage in the office yet when women quite to take other jobs they became pregnant easily and had no further problems.

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  403. WCKitty said on July 22nd, 2012 at 5:26 pm

    @Dream:
    I remember. I wonder if your old boss would have changed computer screens if it had been one of his loved ones or if it had caused problems for the him or other males in the office. It is sad that those women had miscarriages and women had to quit their jobs in order to have a safe work environment.

    Did you find out what the planes were spraying?

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  404. Guest2 said on July 22nd, 2012 at 6:58 pm

    @Patty Anne:
    Me too. That’s a really strange and troubling story if Paris is correct about the doctor who is caring for Katherine. Who’s taking care of the kids? Nannies? Bodyguards?

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  405. Dream said on July 22nd, 2012 at 7:55 pm

    @WCKitty:
    they said mosquito poison. i got very specific info on where they were flying how high, what kind of plane how big it was and how much it holds , what alt it would be flying at. still don’t believe them.

    the story about my work place is why i don’t necessarily believe those in charge. and i mourn for all the babies that died because it was cheaper to pay for a miscarriage than a pregnancy.

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  406. Dream said on July 22nd, 2012 at 8:05 pm

    http://cdn3-www.realitytea.com/assets/uploads/2012/07/kim-kardashian-karina-smirnoff-midori-miami-photos-4.jpg
    when i first saw this pic i thought it was octo mom

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  407. Patty Anne said on July 22nd, 2012 at 8:21 pm

    It’s weird for Katherine to just simply disappear like that, and from what I’ve seen of her since she became their guardian it’s very out of character for her to not let them know she is going, where she is going, and when she will return. I don’t trust MJ’s siblings one bit.@Guest2:

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  408. Dream said on July 22nd, 2012 at 8:34 pm

    @Patty Anne:

    i read somewhere she is safe jsut not accepting calls from the siblings. don’t remember where. but sounds around right. poor michael was a never ending pot of gold to his family.

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  409. WCKitty said on July 22nd, 2012 at 8:57 pm

    @Dream:
    . @Patty Anne:
    According to TMZ, “A source tells the AP that Katherine is is with her daughter Rebbie and has been prescribed rest by a physician.” So, she can’t call her grandchildren to let them know that she is okay? Something isn’t right.
    http://www.tmz.com/

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  410. Guest2 said on July 22nd, 2012 at 9:21 pm

    @Patty Anne:
    It does sound strange that she would leave three underage children for whom she is the guardian and that they haven’t spoken to her in a week. I don’t trust all the siblings but I especially don’t trust her husband. Maybe LaToya will come out and make a statement, she usually tells it like it is. We haven’t heard from her in a while. Something is weird for sure.

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  411. Patty Anne said on July 22nd, 2012 at 10:05 pm

    Definately something is wrong. There is no way in Hell Katherine Jackson would not speak a single two word sentence to those much loved grandchildren of hers. She’d have to be drugged or dead not to at the very least whisper to them, “I’m OK”…..I hope the police check into this thoroughly. I don’t trust that quack either as he was a lacky of Conrads.@WCKitty:

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  412. Patty Anne said on July 22nd, 2012 at 10:07 pm

    Sure does stink doesn’t it? If she’s too “weak” to speak with her grandchildren why not then have a speaker phone conversation with Rebee and do a camera shot of Rebee with Katherine at the same time?? Proof that she is where they say and that she’s not a prisoner, or ….God forbid, worse.@Guest2:

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  413. Patty Anne said on July 22nd, 2012 at 10:15 pm

    It’s inevitable it should come to this. Ben Bernanke has been printing worthless paper bills for some time now, with nothing to back them up but the fact that the dollar is the world standard. If China becomes the new standard our finances will crumble like a house of cards and we will be undone. Do you think shops would accept us giving them notepaper with Five Dollars printed by us on top as currency? Heck no. Apparently our leaders never considered that.@Guest2:

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  414. Patty Anne said on July 22nd, 2012 at 10:16 pm

    Americans : “Remember In November”

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  415. joanne said on July 22nd, 2012 at 10:49 pm

    @Patty Anne:
    We are getting to many nasty things to remember.

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  416. joanne said on July 22nd, 2012 at 11:02 pm

    @Patty Anne:
    China has a lot of stock in us, why would they sell our jobs (packaging food to be sent here? why?) to a Country that doesn’t respect its own people? Couldn’t they sell us to a Country that cares? Ever since Nixon went to China we keep losing more and more to them.

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  417. PG said on July 23rd, 2012 at 1:15 am

    @joanne:

    Most bussinessman do not care about respect for their people, they care what is good for their pockets. They go to China because labour is cheap. If it aint cheap anymore, they’ll find another country as cheap. One day, if all the China people fight for their own rights ( already happening actually ), many factories will close down cos they wont find the cost cheap anymore. The businessman might then invest in India or Africa.

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  418. joanne said on July 23rd, 2012 at 1:56 am

    @PG:
    There is always some Country willing to sell their their people short. Pennsylvania used to have a lot of clothes, shoes and other factories. Most of my aunts were seamstresses. Those jobs are gone, they left in the late sevenities.

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  419. Guest2 said on July 23rd, 2012 at 7:59 am

    @joanne:
    It was the same in New England, lots of great factories. I remember going to dress and coat factories with my mother to buy clothes at a discounted price before they got to the stores. The same with shoes, fabrics, curtains, bedspreads. We lost it all to countries abroad who have cheap labor and no environmental laws. It’s the same with customer service, you call Dell, HP or Microsoft and get routed to India or another Southeast Asia company. When the politicians raised such a fuss about the Olympics uniforms being made abroad I just wanted to dope slap them. They don’t give any money to support the Olympics, they set policies that allow the factories to move out of the US and then they have the nerve to complain about it.

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  420. joanne said on July 23rd, 2012 at 12:04 pm

    @Guest2:
    My Aunt worked for Leslie Fay and she let me use her discount on my birthday (then paid for what I picked out). I felt like a princess.

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  421. Up the Coast said on July 23rd, 2012 at 12:36 pm

    Katherine Jackson isn’t missing…she finally spoke with the authorities. AND they righted some wrongs at Penn State…so things are looking up ;)

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  422. Patty Anne said on July 23rd, 2012 at 12:55 pm

    Yes, I saw that and I’m glad for both. I still believe it to be strange that Katherine knew she would be staying with Rebie for weeks and never informed her grandchildren for whom she is legal guardian though. Something weird is def going on, oops, STILL going on in that warpped family imo. As for Penn State, all I can say is a big HELL YEA! It’s a form of asking forgivness of those who were abused at the hands of Penn State officials for such a very long period of time. Absolutely horrendous~! But by being made public knowledge and applying sanctions against them that will be felt deeply, it’s a step forward.@Up the Coast:

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  423. Up the Coast said on July 23rd, 2012 at 1:17 pm

    @Patty Anne:
    I agree, something strange is STILL going on in that family…why is Paris asking personal questions on twitter, for one thing???

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  424. Guest1 said on July 23rd, 2012 at 1:17 pm

    The last line of the following linked article is disturbing:

    ‘All the evidence we have, every single indicator, is that this was all Mr Holmes’s activity,’ the police chief said. ‘He wasn’t particularly aided by anyone else.’

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2177503/Aurora-shooting-Dark-Night-Rises-gunman-James-Holmes-classmate-questioned-police.html

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  425. joanne said on July 23rd, 2012 at 1:19 pm

    @Up the Coast:
    Yes they did right some wrongs. I hope they follow through with their investigation. Are MJ’s kids driving Mama Jackson crazy?

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  426. Up the Coast said on July 23rd, 2012 at 1:33 pm

    @joanne:
    Good question…is sweet little Paris a handful? IDK.

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  427. Up the Coast said on July 23rd, 2012 at 1:34 pm

    @Guest1:
    :shock: That is an odd statement…what does that mean?

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  428. Guest1 said on July 23rd, 2012 at 2:13 pm

    @Up the Coast:
    I don’t know. It was a very strange comment. I don’t understand why they would let the person go who made the threatening phone call. Hopefully they are watching him and if he is involved are just waiting to collect enough evidence to convict him. Just making a threatening phone call should be enough to get him arrested.

    I saw part of the coverage on T.V. this a.m. of James Holmes in court. He looked very dazed and confused. I’m wondering if they have him medicated. I hope not. He doesn’t deserve to be sedated.

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  429. Up the Coast said on July 23rd, 2012 at 2:44 pm

    @Guest1:
    Maybe they are watching another person…..One of the people inside the theatre said it appeared that a guy got a phone call, then went over to the exit door and propped it open, so he could have an accomplice.

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  430. Guest2 said on July 23rd, 2012 at 2:47 pm

    @joanne:
    Lol, so it’s the kids she’s hiding from? Two teenagers and a 10-year old must be quite a handful for an old lady. Still, she can’t make a phone call to tell them she’s okay?

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  431. WR said on July 23rd, 2012 at 3:20 pm

    Re: Holmes: It was so easy for him to accumulate those weapons online. Any savvy terrorist would have had the same access. Heard some lawyers say that nothing has changed since the last massacre that made headlines. So, anyone can order whatever guns they choose with just a little effort. “Nothing has changed!”
    Then, there are almost always copycats after the fact. They realize they will get attention such as they’ve never ever had.
    My acquaintances say London has security that is total. Nevertheless, a few prayers is being said for a safe Olympics.

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  432. joanne said on July 23rd, 2012 at 3:33 pm

    @WR:
    yet we have 2 wars against terrorism going on.

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  433. joanne said on July 23rd, 2012 at 3:38 pm

    @joanne:
    I wonder if Holmes bought his weapon from the pitt movie. Whatever happened to them?

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  434. x said on July 23rd, 2012 at 3:48 pm

    Michael would be very proud of the feisty young woman Paris has become. Am so happy she’s not taking any BS from his money grubbing family and standing up firmly, for the truth.

    Go Paris GO!!!!

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  435. Guest2 said on July 23rd, 2012 at 4:35 pm

    I think someone should report brad missing. He hasn’t been seen in weeks.

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  436. Up the Coast said on July 23rd, 2012 at 4:41 pm

    @WR:
    Two words…..Fast and Furious :(

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  437. Up the Coast said on July 23rd, 2012 at 5:12 pm

    @Guest2:
    I’ll call it in….. :lol:

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  438. Patty Anne said on July 23rd, 2012 at 5:44 pm

    Heck no, most likely they were part of the ATF gun scandal. They never did recover all those automatic weapons they let “get lost”.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ATF_gunwalking_scandal@joanne:

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  439. Patty Anne said on July 23rd, 2012 at 5:45 pm

    Shhhhhhhh, someone might find him if we make them aware he’s missing. I prefer him lost actually. wink!!
    @Guest2:

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  440. Up the Coast said on July 23rd, 2012 at 6:00 pm

    RIP Sally Ride…

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  441. Siska said on July 23rd, 2012 at 6:01 pm

    Just quick hi to everyone .
    Btw I’m happy there are new picture of Jen and Justin separately.jen back in la getting ready for the movie shoot,and Justin relaxing in NYC.
    Looking forward to more pictures,Jen seem very happy

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  442. Patty Anne said on July 23rd, 2012 at 7:03 pm

    http://www.tmz.com/2012/07/23/katherine-michael-jackson-abandon-paris-kids-missing-arizona-spa/

    They ask the question, “Why would she abandon MIchaels kids to go to a spa?” Very good question and the police are keeping this investigation open so maybe we’ll get an answer…..

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  443. Patty Anne said on July 23rd, 2012 at 7:04 pm

    Amen to that UTC. @Up the Coast:

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  444. Guest2 said on July 23rd, 2012 at 8:34 pm

    @Up the Coast:
    +1

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  445. Up the Coast said on July 23rd, 2012 at 9:05 pm

    @Siska:
    Hi Siska….

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  446. Up the Coast said on July 23rd, 2012 at 9:20 pm

    @Patty Anne:
    More than likely it has to do with jealousy :( The older brothers paved the way for Michael (in their minds). Now these kids, who have never “worked”, the way Joe made the Jackson kids work, are going to reap what they think they have sown. MJ’s kids can’t possibly understand the position that Michael has put them in, even tho Michael made the best choice…now it looks like Katherine is easily manipulated by her other children. Too bad Michael didn’t trust the other women in his family more, cuz Janet would have been my choice.

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  447. x said on July 23rd, 2012 at 9:26 pm

    Here’s the latest re: the Jacksons, the police were called and took an assault report. Of course Katherine is suffering from manipulations over money. Those money grubbers are still leeching off Michael, even after his death…

    http://www.tmz.com/2012/07/23/michael-jackson-family-katherine-jackson-cops-sheriffs-dept-battery/

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  448. x said on July 23rd, 2012 at 9:27 pm

    @Up the Coast:
    you are quick on the draw ;-)

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  449. Guest1 said on July 23rd, 2012 at 9:39 pm

    http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2012/07/michael-jackson-siblings-barred-katherine-house-attempting-remove-kids

    Poor kids. The only way MJ’s brothers or sisters could get a hold of any of the money is if they replace the exectuors or Katherine as guardian. Even if the will is nullified, which I don’t believe they can do at this late stage ,the laws of intestate dictate the kids are the sole beneficiaries of the estate.

    It is obvious that at this point Katherine is not able to act as guardian. I hope Diana Ross is taking legal action to replace her.

    I read somewhere that it is speculated that Katherine is in rehab in Arizona. That might be the reason for the secrecy and the kids not knowing what is going on with their grandmother.

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  450. Guest2 said on July 23rd, 2012 at 9:41 pm

    @Up the Coast:
    Yikes. I thought the daughter in law that had kids by two brothers had been evicted by Katherine but since one of her sons reported the grandmother missing maybe they are still living in the house. I remember reading a while back that those kids were troublemakers and were abusing michael’s kids. I think it’s time for Diana Ross to step in and get MJ’s kids out of there.

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  451. Up the Coast said on July 23rd, 2012 at 10:26 pm

    @x:
    :) They didn’t waste any time did they?

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  452. Up the Coast said on July 23rd, 2012 at 10:33 pm

    @Guest2:
    I remember being a bit freaked out when I learned there was a woman living there who had children from two of the brothers :shock: Geez! So their cousins are their step-brothers/sisters??? I think there was a situation, with a knife or a sword? Something like that.

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  453. Guest2 said on July 23rd, 2012 at 11:19 pm

    @Up the Coast:
    That is one weird family. I’m disaappointed that janet is involved in this mess. I always thought she was the most normal one but I guess when you’re raised by a monster there is no normal. Celebuzz is saying that katherine left to fly to her sons’ concert after a doctor with ties to murray told her he was sent by her physician and that she had to fly to the concert and couldn’t take the RV michael bought her as had been planned. Apparently she never made it to the concert and when the kids hadn’t heard from her after a few days they started to worry. I’m waiting for latoya to speak up.

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  454. Guest2 said on July 23rd, 2012 at 11:22 pm

    @Guest2:
    One would have to assume it was the siblings who called in the shady doctor. Very strange.

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  455. Guest1 said on July 24th, 2012 at 12:23 am

    @Guest2:
    I tried googling Diana Ross and there seems to not be any real stories between her and MJ’s kids. I did read that her daughter just recently had a baby. Unfortunately taking on two teenagers and a child might be too much for her.

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  456. Up the Coast said on July 24th, 2012 at 12:36 am

    TPTB need to up their game…more and more people are seeing right thru their illogical logic: http://farmwars.info/?p=8842

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  457. WR said on July 24th, 2012 at 12:48 am

    @Up the Coast:
    2 words? Two main words?
    Yes, but that partly explains why the lawyers say the “nothing’s changed”. So much more goes into the mix.
    It’s not simple by any means.

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  458. WR said on July 24th, 2012 at 1:12 am

    Guess what I’m trying to say is that the gun lobby was successful long before The Fast and Furious was in effect. And the Second Amendment is why the guns were allowed to “walk” to Mexico; to see how the ATF agents could identify the entire trafficking network. And, Obama is getting the blame.

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  459. Siska said on July 24th, 2012 at 7:09 am

    Jen new pictures from the movie set. She look great with the bang,btw I think the director? He seem hot..he..he.
    Justin seem quite ok doing his own thing. They seem really trust each other.

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  460. janindisguise said on July 24th, 2012 at 7:50 am

    Hey UTC. I’m in a hurry to get to work but wanted to thank you for the farmwars article. Most excellent indeed. I think people ARE waking up to the truth.
    I’m trusting God with my life one day at a time. The TPTB are really pushing the envelope. Remember what Hitler (and those backing him) did: he disarmed the people then took over.

    “when the enemy comes in, I (God) will raise up a standard against him…” totally paraphrased.

    Peace to all.

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  461. joanne said on July 24th, 2012 at 9:53 am

    @WR:
    someone has to take the blame. thats his job as potus. he is just a figurehead like the Queen. I think he is nice to look at, well spoken (I don’t care if he reads from a teleprompt) and if he is dragging me to the end of the world, someone has to do it. Assault weapons should have high fines if caught with one. I have a bil that joined a gun club in Flordia on won one. They also had a child sized ak something on the prize list. Keep them in the gun clubs. I prefer fines because doling out money really hurts some people unless its for something obscene for them.

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  462. joanne said on July 24th, 2012 at 9:54 am

    @janindisguise:
    I am afrais of this god everyone talks about and he reminds me a lot of my father. I like Jesus. He was about love.

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  463. iwasanon said on July 24th, 2012 at 10:00 am

    NOTW phone hacking

    CHARGE 10

    Neville Thurlbeck and James Weatherup, between the 5th day of July 2005 and the 4th day of May 2006, conspired together, and with Glenn Mulcaire and persons unknown, to intercept communications in the course of their transmission, without lawful authority, namely the voicemail messages of persons associated with Angelina Jolie and Brad Pitt, who included Eunice Huthart.

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/blog/2012/jul/24/phone-hacking-cps-charges-live?newsfeed=true

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  464. joanne said on July 24th, 2012 at 10:19 am

    @iwasanon:
    So they hacked UN calls too? How nice. I guess thats what happens when you hire trash to sell your lies.

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  465. Patty Anne said on July 24th, 2012 at 10:41 am

    Radaronline.com
    “The statement reads: “Yesterday afternoon certain Jackson family members ambushed Katherine Jackson’s home after their vehicle tore through security gates on the tails of the SUV containing Michael Jackson’s children. After exiting their vehicles, Jackson family members ran up to Michael’s children as they yelled and began to aggressively grab at the cell phones in their hands. Out of concern for the wellbeing [sic] of Prince, Paris, and Blanket Jackson, the children were forced to temporarily leave their home and taken to a safe location. An altercation ensued shortly thereafter and law enforcement arrived at the scene.

    Seems MJ’s siblings are out of control in their greed. Where is Diana Ross when MJ’s kids need her?

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  466. Patty Anne said on July 24th, 2012 at 10:43 am

    Amazing how low some will go to get a “scoop”. However, knowing publicly that their source for the separation agreement and the visit to the attorney’s therefore was Brangelina themselves puts true to that story.@iwasanon:

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  467. Guest2 said on July 24th, 2012 at 10:59 am

    @Patty Anne:
    They have video too. I don’t think the executors of the estate have too much to worry about. MJ’s sibs are showing their greed in a blatant way. I think the kids need an objective legal guardian appointed in Katherine’s absence and they need more security in that house or any house they get moved to. I don’t think Diana Ross is up to the task of being a caregiver because of her age and there have been allegations of drinking problems. I feel so sorry for those kids.

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  468. Guest2 said on July 24th, 2012 at 11:00 am

    @Patty Anne:
    I hope this goes to trial and all the dirt on brangie comes out. There, I said it, I want all the stuff to come out and their reputations be tarnished forever.

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  469. joanne said on July 24th, 2012 at 11:05 am

    @Guest2:
    Sadly i feel the same way. They need to fall off that media pedestal. No human should be glorified.

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  470. WCKitty said on July 24th, 2012 at 1:07 pm

    @Guest2:
    It appears that Tito Joe (TJ son of Tito) is filing papers to be the children’s guardian. This is getting ugly as it is stated that the siblings are starting to turn on each other.
    http://www.tmz.com/

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  471. Up the Coast said on July 24th, 2012 at 1:15 pm

    @janindisguise:
    I was hoping you would read that!

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  472. Up the Coast said on July 24th, 2012 at 1:20 pm

    @WR:
    Before this “massacre”, the news was on the involvement of Eric Holder in the Fast and Furious debacle. My point is that our puppet masters have their own way of “changing the channel” and guiding our focus to something else. Anyone (like ABC) who tries to point it out, immediately gets chastised for it. The more ridiculous it sounds, the easier it is to call it “crazy”, but the truth is…..the more ridiculous it sounds, the odds are it is the truth! Hitler is a prime example of this.

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  473. Up the Coast said on July 24th, 2012 at 1:27 pm

    I am a registered Democrat…but I’m not proud to say it any longer. We’ve gone off the rails of common sense to point of no return. I’m watching a protest by people who don’t want to be told how much soda pop to drink??? WTH? How can the Mayor of NYC, a liberal Democrat, seriously limit people’s right to the amount of soda they purchase, but be Pro Choice when it comes to aborting a human fetus??? What the fuck is wrong with that picture? :shock:

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  474. You asked said on July 24th, 2012 at 1:39 pm

    @Up the Coast:
    The Mayor of NY is a Republican.

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  475. Angelina Jolie said on July 24th, 2012 at 2:32 pm

    IAN, where are you when we need to know what’s going on in Jackson family? Can i adopt the 3 kids of late MJ? they will learn with how play with knifes,…

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  476. Up the Coast said on July 24th, 2012 at 2:41 pm

    @You asked:
    Oh… :lol: So does that make my point better or worse? :lol:

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  477. Up the Coast said on July 24th, 2012 at 2:46 pm

    @You asked:
    Seems we are both wrong….in typical politician form, he goes wherever the wind blows.
    “A Democrat before seeking elective office, Bloomberg switched his registration in 2001 and ran for mayor as a Republican, winning the election that year and a second term in 2005. Bloomberg left the Republican Party over policy and philosophical disagreements with national party leadership in 2007 and ran for his third term in 2009 as an independent candidate on the Republican ballot line.”

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  478. Guest2 said on July 24th, 2012 at 3:01 pm

    @WCKitty:
    The kids want him as their guardian so maybe it’s the best thing for them until they’re adults and can fend for themselves. I really do think Katherine probably couldn’t handle the kids anymore. Two headstrong teenagers (Paris, for sure) and a 10 or 11 year old are a lot of work for an 82 year old woman and it seems that the cousin has been like a father to them. I don’t know anything about him nor do I know if the other cousins and their mother are also living in the house. If they are still there then I can understand them taking Katherine out of that situation but for her not to talk to her grandchildren for 8 days is very strange. I wish some of these tabs reporting on this would ask their sources how many people are living in that house with MJ’s kids.

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  479. WCKitty said on July 24th, 2012 at 3:15 pm

    @Guest2:
    I also think that it would be a good thing, especially since the children want him to be their guardian. The whole situation is confusingly strange. There are photos of Janet and others barging through the gate and attempting to confiscate Paris’s cell phone. Cops being called and investigations going on. According to TMZ, MJ’s siblings won’t get any money if the newest will is thrown out since it reverts back to the original will. So what is going on?

    I would think that those three children would be a handful for Katherine to raise.

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  480. Patty Anne said on July 24th, 2012 at 3:25 pm

    From what I’ve read today on the blogs Jermaine and another brother are in desperate financial straights and perhaps they believe if they control the kid’s legal guardian (Katherine) they then control enough money to bail themselves out. I’m not sure how much Katherine receives to raise the kids, but MJ’s siblings seem to be desperate for any amount they can get their greedy hands on.

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  481. WCKitty said on July 24th, 2012 at 3:29 pm

    @Patty Anne:
    Okay, I understand. Katherine probably gets a nice monthly support check that the siblings want and will probably fight over. :(

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  482. Angelina Jolie said on July 24th, 2012 at 4:00 pm

    i just submitted a request for adoption of mj 3 kids!

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  483. Guest2 said on July 24th, 2012 at 4:11 pm

    @Patty Anne:
    I read that she gets $70,000 a month. I don’t know if that is her monthly allowance or if it includes child support. It seems really low for an estate that is worth $1B+ so for that I have to agree with the siblings. I don’t think there are any really good guys in this whole mess including the executors except for their getting the estate out of the red as Ian said in his article. I wonder how much of that money those kids will see when they come of legal age. You’ve got to believe that the old manand a lot of other predators are involved in this mess.

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  484. Guest2 said on July 24th, 2012 at 4:12 pm

    @Guest2:
    man and

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  485. janindisguise said on July 24th, 2012 at 4:14 pm

    @joanne:
    Jesus. Yes. Jesus!

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  486. janindisguise said on July 24th, 2012 at 4:30 pm

    While many people (not you guys) are yammering about race (the race mess deliberately re-created by certain ones in high places (divide and conquer), democrats v. republicans, we the people are in a very dangerous place right now. It’s close to tyranny.

    They are getting ready to sign (if they can get enough in Washington to sign it) something to snatch “dem guns away” and yes, the UN is involved in that Nazi shiz. This is not good. This is not about guns. This is about tyranny. Remember how WWII was called (Hitler’s) World Order. Now it’s called the New World Order and they have followed the script of the World Order by the Nazi textbook. I’m afraid that so many people have the boiling frog syndrome because they have been so gradual about it. The pot’s getting hot now – can anyone feel it?

    I was not a great reader in school in my younger years but in the last decade I have read everything I can get my hands on that contains the damn truth. Now I know why I did not like history that I was “taught”. It was watered down and not the truth. Two years ago, I read several books on the third reich (deliberately not capitalized) and the masters of that. Hitler wasn’t the master of all that – he was just the puppet. It’s never the leader – it’s those in the background. And his backers made it over here in Project Paperclip (MK ultra, assassins, neuro crap). It’s always the ones in the background who are doing the planning.

    I pray every day for not only this nation, but the entire WORLD. I too believe in the power of prayer and the more praying the more Power. God help us all.

    And, I digressed AGAIN! I don’t mean to depress anyone. It’s just that I care about people and we cannot have our heads in the sand. My prayer also is that God opens the eyes of all the people. We all need each other now more than ever.

    And, do you ever wonder how AJ can be involved in this evil UN stuff? (MK). IF that is the real AJ we see sometimes. Yep. Me thinks they are together forever – whatever that means.

    Shalom.

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  487. janindisguise said on July 24th, 2012 at 4:37 pm

    I didn’t mean for that to be so boringly (made that up) long.

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  488. Patty Anne said on July 24th, 2012 at 5:16 pm

    I found this online. It explains MJ’s revokable trust set up to distribute his assets after his death to his mother and his children.
    http://michaelteers.webs.com/23mjfamilytrust.htm
    According to the reports, “Katherine Jackson will get 40% of the assets. Michael’s 3 kids will get another 40%. And the remaining 20% goes to several children’s charities.”
    This is not completely accurate. Michael’s mother and each of his children are to receive their shares in trust and not outright, with the trustee having the power to make or not make distributions of income or principal according to certain standards.
    There are a number of reasons for this, from a tax perspective, from a creditor and asset protection perspective, and from a “Control” perspective.

    The estate has to pay an estate tax of 45%, and if a distribution was made outright to for example his mother of 40% of MJ’s assets (which could possibly be over $100 million) then when she dies, there would be another tax of 45% on the value of her estate.

    Most people don’t expect to die before their parents and when drafting the Will and Trust, Michael probably felt the same way. However, he loved his mother and wanted to take care of her for the rest of her life should he pre-decease her. But giving her the money outright would be a tax disaster.
    The solution? Leave the property to her in a trust with certain rules.
    By engaging in proper estate planning, Michael could take care of his mother so that she lives not just comfortably, but in absolute luxury for the rest of her life, and then upon her death, those assets would not be subject to the estate tax a second time.

    @Guest2:

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  489. Patty Anne said on July 24th, 2012 at 5:20 pm

    As I’ve written previously, I am sure that Michael wanted to be able to support and provide for his elderly mother in the event that he died before she did, and left a sizeable amount of his assets for that purpose.
    However, what he did not want was to give his mother the ability to determine what happens to those assets after she died. If Michael left the 40% of his estate to his mother outright, then upon her death, there would be nothing preventing her from leaving those assets to LaToya, Rebbie, Tito, or her husband Joe.
    But by leaving the assets to her in trust, then Michael retains control from the grave over the disposition of the assets.

    This is how will work:
    The assets are held for Mrs. Jackson’s and the kid’s benefit in a trust. An independent trustee controls the distribution of assets to them.
    The Trust provides for Katherine Jackson’s “support and maintenance”, but in addition, also provides for her care, comfort, and well being. These standards are much more liberal than support and maintenance and will allow the Trustees to make large distributions to her, if they feel it is appropriate.

    However, there is no reason to give them more than their expenses. In fact, they might just pay the bills directly. When Mrs. Jackson dies, the remaining trust principal will be distributed pursuant to the Trust’s terms. In this case, it will go to Michael’s children, or to be more accurate, will be added to the trusts established for them.

    ===================================

    So the establishment of the revokable trust of MJ’s estate makes it clear that he did not intend for any of his money to be passed on to his siblings, which is why his mother was gifted a share of the trust. That way she could not leave any of it after her passing to MJ’s siblings. Seems clear that MJ did not want his money to go to his brothers and sisters and I’m sure he had his reasons , not that he needed any.@Patty Anne:

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  490. Patty Anne said on July 24th, 2012 at 5:30 pm

    So, those in control of MJ’s money are his personally appointed trustees John Branca, and John McClain. They , as I read the details of the revokable trust, can pay a stipend to Katherine and the kids or simply pay all incurred bills of the heirs. It’s up to them to make that determination. It seems as Guest2 said they chose to pay Katerine $70,000 per month, and I’m assuming all reasonable incurred bills. The only way MJ’s siblings can get ahold of any of his money would be if they could replace John Branca and John McClain as trustees because then they could determine the guardian of the children needed much more cash provided directly to the guardian. That cash provided to the guardian of the kids could be used in such manner as the guardian deemed fit. Randy, Rebbie, Jermaine, Janet, Titto, and LaToya failed in another attempt to overthrow MJ’s will, so this must be the “3 years in the planning” plot to get to MJ’s money – through the guardian and the trustees of the MJ Revokable Trust. How pathetic to waste three years plotting and planning to destroy what their late brother set up for those he loved, and to play it out on news videos violently grabbing Paris and trying to wrestle away her phone…Just the name Jackson’s leaves a bad taste in my mouth.

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  491. RW said on July 24th, 2012 at 5:39 pm

    Do others get blind-sided by IUC’s policy of erasing our name and e-mail, even tho we just recently posted?
    It’s very annoying to write something profound, (ha!) only to have it erased because we didn’t log in every single bloody time!@Up the Coast: Re: Hitler’s tactics: It’s the public being lulled by “patriotism”, imo. Some history professors are not able to point out the dangers of history repeating itself in our current society. And we are held back by citizens who only want to hear positive platitudes.@joanne: I saw a report on CNN today about how easy it is to acquire assault weapons in stores and on-line. No background check. No inquiries about the reason for the purchases. Just pay them and off you go. Colorado is cited as one of the most laid back in their attitude.
    I detect a fatalism in your statement. I also have that way of thinking most of the time. I have to fight it.
    Remember Edmund Burke’s famous quote about evil triumphant because good people do nothing.

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  492. joanne said on July 24th, 2012 at 5:58 pm

    @Up the Coast:
    No party is a good party. i like it evenally mixed but that usually doesn’t happen. I don’t care about their soda laws since i don’t drink it anymore. I stopped most processed foods and my dark circles under my eyes are going. If I want them back I eat hot dogs.

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  493. WCKitty said on July 24th, 2012 at 5:59 pm

    @Patty Anne:
    According to TMZ, Janet and crew were attempting to put the three children in the SUV and take them to Arizona where they have Katharine. Janet supposedly slapped Paris and called her a name while trying to grab the phone and Paris reciprocated.

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  494. joanne said on July 24th, 2012 at 6:01 pm

    @WCKitty:
    I think it is a horrible way for a family to act.

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  495. joanne said on July 24th, 2012 at 6:03 pm

    @janindisguise:
    Its going to happen even if we get our heads out of the sand. We can delay it though. (in my mind we can anyway :lol: )

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  496. joanne said on July 24th, 2012 at 6:05 pm

    @Patty Anne:
    Good for him. His father and siblings used that poor soul.

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  497. Up the Coast said on July 24th, 2012 at 6:09 pm

    @joanne:
    :) you’re so funny! The only good party is a pot party…or a tupperware party? Anyway, there are many informative posts here today…..I love it.

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  498. Up the Coast said on July 24th, 2012 at 6:13 pm

    @janindisguise:
    Everyone needs to realize that WE hold the power, because there are more of us than there are of them. They are nothing without US. When they try to lead us to the edge of the cliff, we don’t have to follow their lead. It’s almost as simple as that, really.

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  499. WCKitty said on July 24th, 2012 at 6:35 pm

    @Up the Coast:
    Though it’s been a long time, I’ll go with the first party (unless you are talking about pots as in “pots and pans”)! :lol:

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  500. Up the Coast said on July 24th, 2012 at 6:38 pm

    @WCKitty:
    :lol: Hey, we’ve got to fight for our right to PARTY :)

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  501. Up the Coast said on July 24th, 2012 at 6:40 pm

    http://www.tmz.com/2012/07/24/pandemonium-at-jackson-family-compound/
    Janet called Paris a spoiled little bitch??? :shock: Dayum!

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  502. WCKitty said on July 24th, 2012 at 6:43 pm

    @joanne:
    It is, but unfortunately when it comes down to money some people will do anything. There is nothing wrong with having money, it’s how you get the money and what you do with it that counts. With the Jackson family, we are all witnessing the ugly side of having money. I’ve seen the ugliness within my own family and the outcome is not a pretty sight. Thankfully my family is not tabloid material.

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  503. x said on July 24th, 2012 at 6:54 pm

    As Ian will attest to, MJ’s siblings have been leeching off of Michael (or at least trying to) his entire life. Their entire foundation of who they are is built upon an extreme jealousy of M, dating back to when they were kids and M fronted the band, showed the most talent and got the most attention. The stuff that’s happening now is no surprise to those who witnessed the greed and jealousy years ago. It breaks my heart.

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  504. WCKitty said on July 24th, 2012 at 7:05 pm

    @Up the Coast:
    The headlines this family is currently generating is probably not going to bode well for the Jackson Family “Unity” 8O tour.

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  505. Up the Coast said on July 24th, 2012 at 7:09 pm

    @WCKitty:
    They’ll have to change it to the Disharmony Tour :( I just read at radar that Randy and Jermaine asked MJ’s estate to pay their child support!

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  506. joanne said on July 24th, 2012 at 7:19 pm

    @Up the Coast:
    Tupperwear party with pot sounds like a great party. I love both things. :lol:

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  507. joanne said on July 24th, 2012 at 7:20 pm

    @Up the Coast:
    People getting together. That is there biggest fear and weakness. Thats why they gotta keep that hate going strong.

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  508. joanne said on July 24th, 2012 at 7:21 pm

    @joanne:
    ok, their not there. :lol:

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  509. WCKitty said on July 24th, 2012 at 7:23 pm

    @Up the Coast:
    What?????? 8O Why should MJ’s estate pay their child support? This is wrong, so wrong. :(

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  510. Up the Coast said on July 24th, 2012 at 7:24 pm

    @joanne:
    Keeping it fresh…good idea!

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  511. joanne said on July 24th, 2012 at 7:24 pm

    @WCKitty:
    My family too. :(

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  512. joanne said on July 24th, 2012 at 7:25 pm

    @WCKitty:
    :lol: 8O

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  513. Up the Coast said on July 24th, 2012 at 7:25 pm

    @joanne:
    Exactly! Divide and conquer…it’s so cliche, but it’s been working so far.

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  514. Up the Coast said on July 24th, 2012 at 7:27 pm

    @WCKitty:
    I wonder if they are the two brothers who have children with the same woman??? :shock: How lazy are they? :lol:

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  515. WCKitty said on July 24th, 2012 at 7:30 pm

    @joanne:
    I love Tupperware, but I quit buying it because my husband would walk out the door with it and I’d never see it again. I managed to keep some big pieces, but I took my pie container to a family gathering and it took a walk. :( I now buy the BPA-free containers.

    Pot and Tupperware do go together nicely and it would make for a great party. :)

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  516. WCKitty said on July 24th, 2012 at 7:35 pm

    @Up the Coast:
    What???? Two brothers have children with the same woman? 8O !!! I didn’t know that! What a truly messed-up family. :(

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  517. WCKitty said on July 24th, 2012 at 7:38 pm

    @Up the Coast:
    :)

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  518. joanne said on July 24th, 2012 at 7:39 pm

    @WCKitty:
    I lost a lot of mine too and its getting to expensive to lose.

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  519. WCKitty said on July 24th, 2012 at 7:51 pm

    @Up the Coast:
    Jermaine and Randy have children by the same woman.

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  520. WCKitty said on July 24th, 2012 at 7:56 pm

    @joanne:
    Tupperware is one of those brads we all grew-up with. I remember my mom having Tupperware parties because she went to a friend’s party… :lol: ! I recently came across a few pieces of a Tupperware toy I had as a child.

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  521. WCKitty said on July 24th, 2012 at 7:57 pm

    Has anyone ever used King Arthur Queen Guinevere Cake Flour?

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  522. Patty Anne said on July 24th, 2012 at 8:08 pm

    What horrible behavior for a 46 year old aunt toward a 13 year old neice who has lost her only parent. Katherine should ask the trustees whom Michael hand picked to protect his estate and his heirs to select someone in her place who can control those behaving so badly toward those kids.@WCKitty:

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  523. Patty Anne said on July 24th, 2012 at 8:11 pm

    Janet is just wishing that SHE was the spoiled little bitch is the problem. Michael helped her out most of her life and she’s not liking it now that she’s got to do it on her own…she is envious of Paris for having a father who took care of her after his death.@Up the Coast:

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  524. joanne said on July 24th, 2012 at 8:18 pm

    @WCKitty:
    I like the King Arthur whole wheat flour.

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  525. joanne said on July 24th, 2012 at 8:19 pm

    @Patty Anne:
    It sounds that way. I thought his sister was different, she is a disappointment.

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  526. WCKitty said on July 24th, 2012 at 8:23 pm

    @joanne:
    I like King Arthur’s products, but I have never seen their cake flour. They have more than one kind of cake flour, including an unbleached version. The Queen Guinevere Cake Flour can only be bought online, so I was just wondering.

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  527. WCKitty said on July 24th, 2012 at 8:26 pm

    @WCKitty:
    BTW, stay away from their website if you are on a diet or if you are enjoying a pot party! :)

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  528. Up the Coast said on July 24th, 2012 at 8:42 pm

    @WCKitty:
    Keepin’ it in the family…hahaha. Made for reality tv….Cousin-Brothers ;)

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  529. Up the Coast said on July 24th, 2012 at 8:43 pm

    @WCKitty:
    Not that I can remember.

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  530. Up the Coast said on July 24th, 2012 at 8:47 pm

    @Patty Anne:
    I can see that…Joe Jackson is more of a pimp than a father. But seeing Janet’s true colors now…she’s looking more like her father’s daughter :(

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  531. Patty Anne said on July 24th, 2012 at 9:21 pm

    I did a Google on Janet to find out how old she is considering the horrible way she behaved toward 13 y/o Paris and found a number of articles claiming Jenet has a daughter from her annuled married to DeBrage back around ‘89. The girl named Renee is now 25-27 and was handed off to Janet’s sister Rebbie to raise. Janet’s people never printed a denial. I think that family has a whole truck load of secrets.@joanne:

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  532. Patty Anne said on July 24th, 2012 at 9:22 pm

    An Uncle-Daddy sort of family huh? @Up the Coast:

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  533. Up the Coast said on July 24th, 2012 at 10:14 pm

    @Patty Anne:
    :lol: I mean…. :shock:

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  534. Guest2 said on July 24th, 2012 at 10:48 pm

    There’s a blind about the jackson saga at Bg and one of the posters suggested katherine may be in rehab. That actually makes some sense to me. It could explain why she hasn’t spoken to her grandchildren and all the secrecy surrounding her “vacation”. I can understand the family wanting to keep it private though I think they’ve handled it poorly if that is what happened. One of them should have taken the children aside and explained to them where they were taking their grandmother. It would also explain why they were trying to take the kids to Arizona. I know this will sound weird but with all the crazy stuff I’ve read the one thing that I can understand is janet trying to take Paris’s phone away from her. The kid has created quite a furor with her tweets and if a teenage child of mine were tweeting private family matters I don’t think I’d be happy. I’m not justifying their behavior and it may not be rehab but it’s the only thing that makes even a little bit of sense to me. It’s hard to imagine her children would do something to hurt their mother.

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  535. Guest2 said on July 24th, 2012 at 11:18 pm

    @WCKitty:
    The mother and all her kids were living with katherine for a long time. When michael’s kids moved in there were problems and katherine tried to move the mother and children to another house but they refused to leave. Not sure what happened after that.

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  536. Guest2 said on July 24th, 2012 at 11:51 pm

    @Guest2:
    An update from Nightline. Janet slapped paris in the altercation and paris slapped her back. Tito’s son Trent was at the altercation and put randy in a headlock. Tito has removed his name from the letter and left janet’s and randy’s camp and moved over to latoya’s and some other brother’s camp. Yet another brother of michael’s was crying because he doesn’t know where his mother is. Nightline will update us tomorrow. Now I’m going to sleep, good night.

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  537. Togi said on July 25th, 2012 at 3:09 am

    @Angelina Jolie:
    LOL. You’re on a role tonight, AJ! :)

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  538. joanne said on July 25th, 2012 at 9:59 am

    @Guest2:
    Good for Paris.

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  539. Guest1 said on July 25th, 2012 at 10:27 am

    I believe this may be the main contention MJ’s siblings have with the executors and why they want them removed:

    “Branca and McClain have led the Estate from a debt-ridden start to enormous profits. They began around $500 million in the red when the King of Pop died. Three years later, the Estate reported $475 million in profits. Of course, Branca and McClain have enjoyed a huge financial windfall from this as well. They have a special arrangement, blessed by the probate judge who oversees the estate, allowing them to earn 10% from most deals they cut for the Estate.”

    http://www.forbes.com/sites/trialandheirs/2012/07/18/michael-jacksons-siblings-promise-new-fight-over-his-estate/

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  540. Patty Anne said on July 25th, 2012 at 10:28 am

    Agreed. It would seem that her father, Michael, taught her to stand up for herself. Having been raised in that family he would know how very important that would be in his children’s future.@joanne:

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  541. Patty Anne said on July 25th, 2012 at 10:31 am

    It’s quite possible the Jackson family believes they can do as good a job with as much experience and knowledge as the trustees selected by Michael when he set up the Jackson Family Revokable Trust but they are fools. If they had been appointed trustees, any one of them, the estate would have remained in the red and not earned back it’s debits but gone under while they padded their salary. These men have done a fantastic JOB of turning this estate around and ensuring Michael’s wises are obeyed. Yes, I can see Jermaine, Janet, LaToya, Randy thinking they deserve the pay for the job but not being able to do the work required. Michael was very wise in the manner in which he protected his loved ones after he was gone.@Guest1:

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  542. Dream said on July 25th, 2012 at 11:56 am

    has ian ever said anything about the supposed hidden janet baby?

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  543. Dream said on July 25th, 2012 at 12:26 pm

    jeeze famous people dropping like flies last few days.
    good bye mr jefferson and chad everett to name a couple. sorry to see them go. lots of hours of happy and interesting from those two guys in my life.

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  544. Guest2 said on July 25th, 2012 at 12:48 pm

    @Dream:
    +1. Two of my all time favorites. Jefferson was a very funny and talented man, the writing on his show was so witty. And chad everett was one of my crushes growing up. Loved anything he was in.

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  545. joanne said on July 25th, 2012 at 12:51 pm

    @Dream:
    Chad Everett died too? :( rip

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  546. joanne said on July 25th, 2012 at 12:53 pm

    Everett was one of my crushes too. I agree that hemsley was a very funny and talented man. What happened to tv?

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  547. Patty Anne said on July 25th, 2012 at 1:50 pm

    I don’t recall Ian mentioning it here, but perhaps he did before my time here ( 3+ years now). I did read on Radaronline that Katherine Jackson’s personal attorney flew to Arizona to speak with her directly. Here’s the link to the story. Seems Katherine is mad as a wet hen at what her children did and how they arranged to keep her in the dark ( in a spa with no telephone and no cell phone service).

    http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2012/07/katherine-jackson-talks-grandkids-paris-prince-michael-blanket@Dream:

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  548. Patty Anne said on July 25th, 2012 at 1:54 pm

    Aww, good-bye Mr. Jefferson. I’ll miss you and Weezy. That was when television was fun and entertaining. I do so hate these scripted “reality” shows all over the networks now. I signed up for Netflix so I can selectively watch my favorite television series when those stupid ones are on. Talk about the dumbing down of America…geeze. Bristol Palin has a “reality” show, Turtle Man who spends 30 min a week in mud catching “varmits” ( one day the world will run out of turtles), Ice Road Truckers ( seriously, how many new stories can they script about driving on ice?), and so on. Thank goodness for PBS~! Masterpiece Theater, re-runs of As Time Goes By, Keeping Up Appearances, Waiting For God…..if not for those, I’d sell my tv’s.

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  549. rushdog said on July 25th, 2012 at 3:54 pm

    Hi to all! Have enjoyed reading all your comments.

    If Katherine and Reggie are in AZ who is responsible for the children…another family member, the security personnel? A challenge both ways with children that age.

    I’ve noticed recently that the “triangle” is pretty much absent from all mags, rags etc…this summer. Huh, and here I thought all those headlines were just pulled out of the asses of the mags to earn riches off of poor Bradders, Ang and Jen. LOL!! Looks like the publicists/PR teams are off duty for the time being. IMO it really shows the f&ckery the “triangle” is up to at any given time. They are seen and heard when they want to be seen and heard.

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  550. Patty Anne said on July 25th, 2012 at 4:00 pm

    T.J.Jackson, son of Tito, is now the guardian of MJ’s kids. Seems some of the siblings are distancing themselves from the greedy actions of Janet, Jermaine, and Randy. What a mess. At least they have family members and trustees who will fight for what’s right for them. RIP Michael, your kids are safe.

    Yes, it’s obvious that the triangle is seen and heard from only when they wish to be. I thought Angee’s weak photo ops in costume for Maleficient were hilarious as it was difficult to decide what was costume and what was Angee…lol. There are photos out of Jen on her new film set dressing down for the role. Shows she’s in it for the acting not for the ego so much imo. Justin Theroux in NYC looking hawt and sexy as usual. And Brad still has not been sighted in a very long time. Guess his on set battle with his WWZ director is wearing on his huge ego. I hope this continues, I’m so sick of them. NOTW’s article about them signing a separation agreement with their attorneys in LA in 2010 proved true when part of the wiretap investigation named Brad Pitt and Angelina Jolie as having been hacked…lol. They didn’t realize what would come from their suing NOTW did they? CONFIRMATION…lol

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  551. Up the Coast said on July 25th, 2012 at 5:35 pm

    @Patty Anne:
    :) Yep, it looks like Brad/Ange were lying, once again. And I’ll bet it was Ange’s idea to fight it. Who would have really cared if they split? It’s not like they were firing the nannies :shock: now that would be traumatic for the kids.

    Shame, shame on Janet, Jermaine and Randy….tmz is reporting that Katherine called the house at 2am and again at 4am, and she sounded really drugged up….telling (someone) to fire the security people and bring in Janet’s security people. What happened to those soft spoken, mild mannered Jackson’s? ;)

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  552. guest2 said on July 25th, 2012 at 5:53 pm

    @Up the Coast:
    That explains why the judge granted custody to the cousin. What awful people to drug their own mother. Is there some criminal activity? What drugs did they give her and where did they get them?

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  553. Up the Coast said on July 25th, 2012 at 6:00 pm

    According to radar, the Kennedy family is also fighting amongst themselves, after a series of crazy public meltdowns (DUI’s). It’s been a long hot summer….

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  554. Up the Coast said on July 25th, 2012 at 6:02 pm

    @guest2:
    And…Joe Jackson just got into town! Hahaha….it’s gonna get good now.

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  555. Guest1 said on July 25th, 2012 at 6:12 pm

    It just keeps getting worse.

    http://www.tmz.com/2012/07/25/katherine-jackson-drugged-fire-phone-call-calabasas/

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  556. WCKitty said on July 25th, 2012 at 6:18 pm

    @Guest1:
    Oh, Randy Jackson is the spokesperson? Like everyone trusts what he has to say.

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  557. Siska said on July 25th, 2012 at 6:27 pm

    Omg..the twihard on meltdown phase..he.he..Kristen cheated on Robert with a married director,and the pictures and statements from them admitted is true.
    I read on Aussie mags before that Kristen really admire Jolie and she wanted to be like her,,mmmm..it seem she is follow Jolie play book..he,he

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  558. Siska said on July 25th, 2012 at 6:28 pm

    This year the scandal is more juicy than last year…what else will follow?
    Btw there are also report that John Mayer finally hook up with katy perry,he wanted to date her before but russel beat him to it.

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  559. Guest1 said on July 25th, 2012 at 6:36 pm

    @Siska:
    Siska, over at FF they have the new magazine covers. The cover of Famous is saying that AJ’s 2 year affair with a married man, and that Brad walks out amid new claims. Have you seen this magazine or heard about the story?

    In other AJ/BP news, it appears they were a no show at the gala honoring Muhammad Ali. The article I read stated that they didn’t walk the carpet and speculated they didn’t show.

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  560. Siska said on July 25th, 2012 at 6:50 pm

    I wonder if Jen will have some juice scandal this year? Maybe she cheated on Justin with jason or her new director? I think it surely better than keep getting link all the time with brad.
    Anyway,I watched wanderlust and 21 jump street DVD .
    My review is 21 jump street really funny and entertaining.
    Wanderlust is not that good. Too much dirty work and scene that not funny and too much talking. Not enough heart. The bizarro cut actually a better version than the movie version.
    I think it’s the director and the script responsible for it.
    Jen part actually the sane part,and make the movie a bit more watchable.
    I think Paul is a good actor but in this movie they made him a tad too much over the top,over did it.
    The mirror part is funny but over did it.
    I can see the chemistry between Jen and Justin,he is so tender toward her,not like his other roles.
    I got the feeling that he actually who put the move toward her first,she is act a bit cool ( maybe because of the role,which show he chasing her).
    Anyway location temptation is real. Just look at the recent scandal with Kristen.

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  561. Siska said on July 25th, 2012 at 6:53 pm

    @Guest1:i think It’s about Angie with jagger.from the rolling stone bio.
    It also saying that she is cheated her first husband with mick who happen already married and his wife was pregnant that time.

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  562. Siska said on July 25th, 2012 at 6:56 pm

    @Guest1:Money is evil

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  563. Siska said on July 25th, 2012 at 7:20 pm

    Interesting stuf about 21 jump street which co wrote co produce by Jonah hill which co star with brad in money ball,in this movie the main character alias name is brad and dough,which brad is the handsome and stupid one..he..he

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  564. Siska said on July 25th, 2012 at 7:21 pm

    Oh sad news ,awful truth by Ted c already being pull off. Mmm some of his blind item people might be felt so threaten

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  565. Guest2 said on July 25th, 2012 at 9:45 pm

    @Siska:
    Hi siska, poor katy, she doesn’t have very good taste in men. Poor kristen, she’s young and very foolish and has a lot to learn about discretion. That would have been better handled privately between her and rob and she’s probably alienated a lot of her twilight fans. Not a good thing before the final twilight movie is released.

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  566. Guest2 said on July 25th, 2012 at 9:46 pm

    @Siska:
    We’ll never know who toothy tile and fake a la ferocity are. I always liked his funny names even if I didn’t always believe his blinds.

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  567. janindisguise said on July 25th, 2012 at 10:03 pm

    Good evening everybody. Just checking in. That Jackson stuff is entertaining. Lots of publicity there, no? Tito’s son is certainly getting his share as he is a singer… Paris is certainly beautiful, isn’t she.

    Yes Siska. Love of money is the root of all evil.

    Peace to all.

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  568. Guest1 said on July 25th, 2012 at 10:03 pm

    Ted C. posted this earlier on his twitter account:

    Ted Casablanca‏@Ted_Casablanca

    everything ur reading about #Robsten is arranged. Let me assure u of this.

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  569. Guest2 said on July 25th, 2012 at 10:23 pm

    @Guest1:
    I just read that at FF. He was into the twi kids big time and seemed to have some sources so maybe he’s right.

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  570. Guest1 said on July 25th, 2012 at 10:57 pm

    @Guest2:
    I’m having a kind of moral dilemna about this whole situation. I hate the idea of a fake story being intentionally leaked for PR and taking over the news/papers/magazines while we are still dealing with the aftermath of the movie theater shooting in Colorado. This cheating scandal seems to be getting James Holmes less press, which I believe he is not happy about. But I don’t want any of the victims or the families of the deceased in Colorado to feel the cheating scandal is more newsworthy than their stories and what they are going through. I hope you can understand what I am trying to say.

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  571. Patty Anne said on July 25th, 2012 at 11:16 pm

    Ted C. identified Fake a la Ferocity awhile back: Angelina Jolie. I don’t know if you can access his old solveds anymore, but it was there so it’s out in Cyberspace somewhere. :-)
    @Guest2:

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  572. Guest2 said on July 25th, 2012 at 11:34 pm

    @Patty Anne:
    I didn’t think ted solved his blinds. I’ll have to google when I have a few minutes.

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  573. Siska said on July 26th, 2012 at 12:27 am

    @Guest1:So that mean,they not real? But he said it over and over that they are real before.
    I think robsten has open relation but not the director and his wife. She tweet and deleted her account. And it show she is piss.

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  574. Siska said on July 26th, 2012 at 12:32 am

    @Guest2:
    Or maybe a good pr move to break her image from innocent Bella? Anyway I think they did the affair quite a long time and got the thrill for it and always got lucky. But on 17 July,they luck ran out. And everyone involved specially the wife got hurt.
    I found it funny how sort of coincidence that rob talking about fidelity on vanity fair interview in Italy.

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  575. Siska said on July 26th, 2012 at 12:34 am

    @Guest2:He already sort of admit it. Jake and jolie.but no way he will openly declare it.

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  576. Siska said on July 26th, 2012 at 12:35 am

    @janindisguise:Peace to you too..the new custodian seem better fit than kathrine.

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  577. Siska said on July 26th, 2012 at 12:42 am

    This robsten scandal is either the same or bigger than Jen and brad divorce. It’s gonna be juicy.
    Robsten fans is bigger and more hard Core than brangie fans.
    I think Ted is being put them on the blind item list as a couple who enjoy swing sex style and bi sexual. And Kristen has the biggest sin.
    She is the younger version of Jolie. Unfortunately she is too careless.
    I hope this scandal not gonna distroy her career like Wynona. Cause scandal seem more kind to men than women.

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  578. Siska said on July 26th, 2012 at 12:51 am

    @Guest1:
    I don’t think is a fake story.its proof by the pictures and both shame guilt statement from both party. Which I think because it’s their version oh begging for forgiveness for their partner.Us mag got this story since 17 July ,they got the scoop and hold on it and inform both Kristen and Rupert people. That’s why took a while.
    I don’t think Rupert will want to jeopardize his family by openly agree to it.

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  579. Siska said on July 26th, 2012 at 12:53 am

    Most of twihard n robs ten fans being putting out false story to rebuke the scandal including I suspect their studio.
    So they being saying its photoshop,it’s set up.etc.

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  580. Siska said on July 26th, 2012 at 12:56 am

    @Siska:They even try to said that Kristen statement is false.
    Now they used Ted as an excuse to pretend this is all just pretend.

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  581. Siska said on July 26th, 2012 at 1:01 am

    One thing I actually admire to the old time blind players,like aj,gc,jg,etc that they make sure to not leaked or create opportunity to provide the public with photos evident. Imagine if we got brangie scandal pictures..wow hot..he.,he

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  582. Siska said on July 26th, 2012 at 1:12 am

    I think Kristen should learn from Bl who cheated with married man on the set of superhero movie with certain colour and got leaked her naked picture which she sent to him.and never got any tabs mention by using Leo as the cover up / transition bf ,plus she never let the paps had the change to took that damaging pictures.

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  583. Siska said on July 26th, 2012 at 1:14 am

    I think the only reason this pictures is published because the paps going straight to magazine,not to the stars.

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  584. Siska said on July 26th, 2012 at 1:16 am

    We talking about when brangie will end,but they still stand longer than tomkat even robsten. They knew how to keep their eye on the game.

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  585. Siska said on July 26th, 2012 at 2:27 am

    Btw check on aniston tumblr posts from delighted naleigh? .its post Jen 2002 picture out from hospital and tag that Jen is crying after found out she lost her first child with brad. Very random

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  586. Guest2 said on July 26th, 2012 at 7:12 am

    @Siska:
    Ted always said they were a real couple but that many of the twilight cast were bisexual so maybe they have an open relationship. Not an excuse to mess around with a married man, espcially considering his wife was also on the set of the movie. Maybe ted meant the public apology was arranged. Kristen has done a few movies playing opposite of Bella but I think this affair will do more to change her image than any movie could. Whether it works for or against her we’ll have to wait and see (the twilight studio can’t be too happy about this). I’ve always found her to be a very awkward and immature girl. Rob is funny and rather charming in interviews but do these kids have an aversion to soap and water?

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  587. joanne said on July 26th, 2012 at 9:03 am

    @Siska:
    The Brand is together thanks to the News of the World.

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  588. mayrose10 said on July 26th, 2012 at 9:31 am

    @Siska:
    Is it wrong I’m enjoying their meltdown so much? What will they obsess over if they break up? It’s just sad a family is destroyed. Maybe it will be good for Angelina if Kristen becomes the new Angelina. Oh please not another triangle.

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  589. mayrose10 said on July 26th, 2012 at 9:35 am

    @Guest2:
    Those apologies were horrible and sound like they were written by the author of Twilight or at least a 12 year old girl.

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  590. Patty Anne said on July 26th, 2012 at 11:41 am

    ” Posted by blurry vice at 8:16 AM
    Labels: Angelina Jolie, Awful Truth, Exposed Item, Fake-a-la Ferocity ”

    http://www.blinditemsexposed.com/2008/06/one-privately-eased-blind-vice.html

    Sorry I no longer have the Ted C. article, but this one is about it.

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  591. Patty Anne said on July 26th, 2012 at 2:53 pm

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2179313/Prince-Jackson-posts-text-exchange-aunt-Janet-proof-blocked-contact-grandmother.html

    Seems now that Katherine is returned by Janet, Jermaine, Randy and Rebbie they are attempting to put an innocent spin on what occured but Prince Jackson isn’t standing up for the lie. Michael warned his children about his siblings and taught them to stand up for themselves. He did well by them.

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  592. Up the Coast said on July 26th, 2012 at 3:01 pm

    @Patty Anne:
    I wonder what the real story is, about Ted C’s Awful Truth shutting down.

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  593. Up the Coast said on July 26th, 2012 at 3:03 pm

    @Patty Anne:
    It looks like Prince and Paris are going to be a force to be reckoned with, and Michael seems to have taught them well.

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  594. WCKitty said on July 26th, 2012 at 3:41 pm

    According to TMZ, “Katherine Jackson had FULL ACCESS to a working phone during her stay in Arizona and could easily have called her grandkids whenever she wanted … so says a rep for the resort.”
    http://www.tmz.com/

    This is a very strange situation. If Katherine loses permanent custody of the children, then she will probably the monthly support for the children. She would then only get monthly support for herself.
    Is someone blackmailing her?

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  595. joanne said on July 26th, 2012 at 3:57 pm

    @WCKitty:
    Who gets the kids then? Diana Ross? I don’t think she will take crap off the Jackson mob and she can hire whatever she needs to raise them right. I wonder why MJ trusted his mother?

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  596. liv4 said on July 26th, 2012 at 4:16 pm

    @Up the Coast:
    Me too. Too much liability? Hit too close to home for someone?

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  597. WCKitty said on July 26th, 2012 at 4:41 pm

    @joanne:
    I don’t know. I read that Diana Ross has been informed of the situation as well as Debbie Rowe. Maybe MJ’s siblings found out something that he didn’t even know about? Or maybe they have just threatened her with something else. Whatever it is, their plan has appeared to not work and the Jackson’s have probably just flushed their careers down the toilet with their behavior. Any book written by any of them wouldn’t probably sell due to the content probably being full of untruths. A book by the children would definitely be a seller. MJ must be looking down on this situation with heartache.

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  598. Up the Coast said on July 26th, 2012 at 4:59 pm

    @liv4:
    Or he got tired of being reined in by the E! lawyers? What’s the point of getting info (dirt) on these celebs if they aren’t allowed to report it?

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  599. Patty Anne said on July 26th, 2012 at 5:43 pm

    Same here. Ted C. posted on his twitter account that
    “Ted Casablanca ‏@Ted_Casablanca
    hearing some silly stuff out there: @JeremyRenner and @TomCruise had nothing to do w/ my decision to leave E! It was mine alone

    Hummmmmmm@Up the Coast:

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  600. Guest2 said on July 26th, 2012 at 5:44 pm

    @WCKitty:
    It’s possible she was in on the scheme to get more money from the estate. She may not be the saint she’s portrayed to be. Or maybe she’s afraid of her children (and her husband?) and was doing what they told her to do. I wonder how much of her monthly check went to them or was taken from her by them. I think for the time being the kids are better off with the cousin as the guardian.

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  601. Guest2 said on July 26th, 2012 at 5:46 pm

    @Patty Anne:
    He’s another one I’d love to have a drink with. Imagine the stories he could tell. Maybe he’ll come here and post some juicy gossip under an anonymous name. Hear that Ted? By the way, which names were assigned to Jeremy Renner and Tom Cruise?

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  602. WCKitty said on July 26th, 2012 at 6:09 pm

    @Guest2:
    I’ve also wondered about her. I have to admit that I don’t know a lot about the family, but as some have posted at other sites, did she allow Joe to abuse the children or were her hands tied. MJ appeared to love her and trusted her to be his children’s guardian. The children appear to care for her. Then again, was MJ her “golden child” and is that one of the reasons for the turmoil? I learned long ago that not everything/everyone is as it/they appear.

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  603. WCKitty said on July 26th, 2012 at 6:10 pm

    @Guest2:
    Wouldn’t that be great? I’m sure he could tell some great stories. :lol:

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  604. Up the Coast said on July 26th, 2012 at 6:18 pm

    @Patty Anne:
    Then…..was it the COS? (Is JRenner a scientologist?)

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  605. Guest2 said on July 26th, 2012 at 7:36 pm

    @WCKitty:
    I suspect she was also abused by Joe and probably had no way out. He was powerful in the music business when his kids were successful and how do you leave your children with a man like that and where do you go? Those were different times back then. I just don’t know what to think about her and why she didn’t speak to her grandchildren for 10 days. I can see her wanting to get away for some relaxation but why keep it a secret from the kids? I’m sure it will all come out eventually. Where’s Latoya and her blabber mouth?

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  606. Up the Coast said on July 26th, 2012 at 7:36 pm

    I’m watching Ian, right now, on Jane Velez Mitchell!!!

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  607. janindisguise said on July 26th, 2012 at 7:40 pm

    Aha! I was just over at the surplus store on line looking around. I had an aha moment. That’s what those “onesies” are that BP wears. They’re for his “day job”.

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  608. janindisguise said on July 26th, 2012 at 7:40 pm

    Army/Navy surplus store that is.

    Like the ones my brother liked to go to when he was growing up.

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  609. Up the Coast said on July 26th, 2012 at 7:41 pm

    @Guest2:
    I know! Who would think that Latoya would end up looking like the normal one, by not getting involved in this mess?

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  610. janindisguise said on July 26th, 2012 at 7:41 pm

    Oh IUC – maybe they will rerun that later tonight. Can’t see it right now. Dang it.

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  611. Up the Coast said on July 26th, 2012 at 7:49 pm

    @janindisguise:
    I believe they do rerun it later in the evening….at least they do here in CA.

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  612. joanne said on July 26th, 2012 at 8:06 pm

    @WCKitty:
    Mama made it all better after daddy thrashed it? He trusted her with his most prized possessions. Did he think she would go first and didn’t want to hurt her?
    They all just made this woman look like an ass.

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  613. Guest2 said on July 26th, 2012 at 8:11 pm

    @Up the Coast:
    I’ve always felt sorry for latoya because she seems emotionally damaged by her upbringing but she’s always been pretty outspoken and honest. These celebrities sure are providing us with endless entertainment lately. But where the hell is brad?

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  614. Up the Coast said on July 26th, 2012 at 8:37 pm

    @Guest2:
    I don’t know! Is he in London or Nola? It’s odd that no one has gotten a pic of him in such a long time, but he’s like a bad penny…he’ll show up.

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  615. Capri said on July 26th, 2012 at 9:59 pm

    @Guest2:
    Not sure about Renner but TC is said to be Fey Oiled Tush.

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  616. WCKitty said on July 26th, 2012 at 10:30 pm

    Pitt may be in Louisiana filming at Magnolia Plantation.
    http://www.femalefirst.co.uk/board/viewtopic.php?f=40&t=317591

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  617. Guest1 said on July 26th, 2012 at 11:00 pm

    Wasn’t there a blind about Tom being involved with three guys, a musician, an athlete, and an actor? Maybe Ted C.’s twitter message was not innocent but was actually to confirm a relationship between Tom Cruise and Jeremy Renner iTed C’s site now and then so I con’t know if this might be something he would do.

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  618. Siska said on July 27th, 2012 at 1:14 am

    @Guest2:ha..ha..yep they both seem really not into soap or shower..he..he.
    Yeah remember her recent interview that sort of asking for something bad to happen to her because everything happen to easy for her. It’s seem her wishes come true.
    I have my own theory on this. She might be really into this guy and this scandal might finally made the director leave his wife? But the director not ready still and in the end she has to beg for forgiveness for rob?
    She seem more willing to be out and about and show more PDA recently with rob,maybe out of quilt? Or to make the director jealous? .. My soap opera tingling really on in this drama.he..he

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  619. Guest2 said on July 27th, 2012 at 7:11 am

    @Siska:
    I was looking at the photos last night and it looked like they knew they were being photographed so maybe they, or at least she, wanted to get caught. I wonder how this will affect the Snow White sequel. Maybe they’ll replace her. I didn’t find her all that appealing in the role – I don’t think she’s a very good actress. The homewrecker label will be hard to live down and it’s a family movie.

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  620. Guest2 said on July 27th, 2012 at 7:18 am

    This is an article about on-set affairs. AJ appears twice. Kristen has some catching up to do to take away her title as number 1 homewrecker.

    http://fox8.com/2012/07/26/pictures-5-on-set-cheating-scandals/

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  621. Siska said on July 27th, 2012 at 7:34 am

    @Guest2:Jolie is lucky,there wasnt any photograph evidence.
    Their die hard fans still deny that Jolie ever wreck any relation ..ha..ha.

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  622. Siska said on July 27th, 2012 at 7:38 am

    @Guest2:
    I don’t think they knew ,they might suspect it. They just careless. Chasing the thrill. Only one shoot which she drove the car with the cap that sort of look like she knew ( not sure this is after or before ).

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  623. Siska said on July 27th, 2012 at 9:12 am

    @Guest2:
    Do you see the picture that he hug her from behind? Someone on her tumblr making it look like he fxxx her from behind…he.he..this is so like cheap porn stuff..

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  624. Patty Anne said on July 27th, 2012 at 12:16 pm

    There was an online site that had a series of photos of Kristin and Rupert in the car. They were a bit “foggy” but clear enough to recognize them both. Then there were two photos of Kristin walking away from the car in which the article stated it was when they thought someone was nearby them. Kristin kept disappearing from view in the car, and then reappearing. Hmmmmmm@Siska:

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  625. Up the Coast said on July 27th, 2012 at 12:43 pm

    Did anyone see Ian on Jane Velez Mitchell last night???

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  626. Guest2 said on July 27th, 2012 at 12:53 pm

    Supposedly there are more photos of Kristen and Rupert that will be coming out. I was reading that someone on the set of their movie tipped off US Mag that something was going on between them and US got a couple of paps to tail Kristen and that’s how they got the photos. I wonder who tipped them off. I feel sorry for his family and Rob. What an embarrassment on top of the betrayal.

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  627. Guest2 said on July 27th, 2012 at 12:54 pm

    @Up the Coast:
    I didn’t see it (don’t know who she is actually). What did Ian say? I kept meaning to ask but got caught up in the gossip.

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  628. Up the Coast said on July 27th, 2012 at 1:05 pm

    @Guest2:
    She has a show on HLN…the first time I heard of her, was back when MJ was going to court in SB County for the child molestation charges…she was one of the reporters. Ian was on her show answering question about what’s going on right now.

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  629. Guest2 said on July 27th, 2012 at 1:15 pm

    @Up the Coast:
    Does Ian think Katherine will/should regain custody?

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  630. Up the Coast said on July 27th, 2012 at 1:45 pm

    @Guest2:
    :oops: I can’t remember what he said about that…he was on and I wasn’t really paying attention, then out of the corner of my ear I heard his voice!

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  631. Guest2 said on July 27th, 2012 at 2:04 pm

    @Up the Coast:
    Maybe Ian will tell us what he said.

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  632. Up the Coast said on July 27th, 2012 at 2:17 pm

    @Guest2:
    I just checked the website, so see if they’ve put the video up yet. I’ll look again, later today.

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  633. rushdog said on July 27th, 2012 at 2:55 pm

    @Up the Coast:
    Is that what his “new tv show” tweet meant? I didn’t see the show. Did you just happen to be on that station?

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  634. rushdog said on July 27th, 2012 at 2:59 pm

    @Up the Coast:
    Very interesting look on KS face. Says it all to me.

    So Ted says “everything your reading about Robsten is arranged” so is that supposed to reference their relationship? I always believed it was just pr for the movie series or maybe bearding for him.

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  635. Up the Coast said on July 27th, 2012 at 3:27 pm

    @rushdog:
    Yes, it just happened to be on HLN..

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  636. Patty Anne said on July 27th, 2012 at 3:46 pm

    Ian’s been on Jane Velez-Mitchell’s HLN news show over the years and always supplies the audience with added information. I missed him being on last night, but I’ll keep checking with the news site for the video. Thanks for the heads up~!

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  637. Guest2 said on July 27th, 2012 at 4:14 pm

    @rushdog:
    I’ve seen her interviewed a couple of times and thought she gave off a very gay vibe. Him not as much. Ted used to say that the twi cast were bisexual and that these two were in a real relationshipt but he seems to be changing his tune now. Maybe she was trying to prove something by getting involved with the director. She was very foolish to get caught in public like that.

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  638. janindisguise said on July 27th, 2012 at 9:55 pm

    @Guest2:
    I got the gay vibe also. I can hardly stand to watch her because she has a really BIG MOUTH! And, BTW, she’s not an attorney like some of them on that channel. Matter of fact, I don’t like that channel at all now that I think of it. Nancy Grace = ugh. Dr. Drew Programmer – ugh. And those others. Just ugh. Annoying. ANd, that is my opinion. Everybody’s got one, right? Heh.

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  639. guest 3 said on July 28th, 2012 at 5:42 am

    I see you guys are still jabbering about Brad and Angie break-up. But as we can see every HW couple except them have broken up. Demi-Ashton, Seal-Heidi, Tom-Katie, Rob-kristen?? You can’t even understand the contradictions in your comments. They are together because they are worth more together but, they are broke financially as a couple. Believe me, Brad and Angie will be the last couple standing in HW. Maddox turns 11 next month, Pax will be 9 this year, Zahara 7, Shiloh 6, the twins 4. When will this break-up happen? When they are teenagers or young adults. Remember this was just a fling in 2005, as we are now heading into 2013.

    BTW, the mick jagger story was out there a few years ago. No one paid attention to it then as they are dismissing it now. So what? The big story Mick Jagger a dirty old man in his 50’s was obsessed with a woman 30 years younger . Unlike Kristen Stewart, there aren’t any photos to substaniate there was an affair..Come to think of it there are no photos to confirm any of Angie’s so-called affairs, just tab reports.

    Don’t you find it interesting that the only intimate photos/videos we have seen of her in the past 15 years are with 2 ex-husbands and Brad, the father of her children?

    I don’t care for Lainey but I do think there’s some truth in her comments about how the average person connects to HW couples..

    “Because the best scandals are more than just tabloid covers. The best scandals are the ones that reflect something back about ourselves”.

    “When Brad left Jennifer to be with Angelina, it wasn’t just that Hollywood’s hottest leading actor was hooking up with Hollywood’s sexiest leading lady. What he was leaving was every girl next door, every wife in the MiniVan in favour of the attractive colleague who sits in the office next to her husband’s.”

    “When Katie blindsided Tom, it was more than just another Hollywood divorce. She became the representative of every woman who has ever felt controlled and commanded, every parent who wanted better for their daughter, every single mother who had the courage to start over”.

    “The best scandals are social reflections. They are processed internally and personalised”.

    It’s time to get over it mini vans moms of the world. Angie is now a 37 years old mother with 2 children that will be in their teens in a few short years.

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  640. Siska said on July 28th, 2012 at 6:02 am

    @Guest2:i think the paps always follow her and got lucky. Because there are plenty of pictures of her from and after the gym on her fans site before 17 July and after that date.
    The paps also mention on it that he just got lucky because he follow his instinct when he saw her took different route after got a phone call. This affair already going on for long. Basic on that pictures ,is not just sex. I think he seduce her with his intellectual charm. And she is young and wild so it’s perfect match.

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  641. guest 3 said on July 28th, 2012 at 6:03 am

    I must add that the disdain for Angie is not because you’re a big fan of Jen. I believe most on this site don’t care for Jen or her lifestyle. But what Lainey cited it’s the fear of your husband or boyfriend being attracted to the beautiful co-worker. Jen represents the plain jane’s in the world regardless of her vices..smoking, drinking, toking, snorting,caught humping on Vince Vaughn before the ink was dry on her divorce.

    I get it!!!

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  642. Siska said on July 28th, 2012 at 6:06 am

    @Patty Anne:Do you saw the kisss on the neck and hugging from behind? It’s seem more than a fling. And this is why I suspect that she seem willing to out and about more as a couple to rob. Maybe feeling guilty?
    Anyway the new report said that rob move out and she also move out,he been in isolation for days and want to speak with the director directly about this affair.

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  643. Siska said on July 28th, 2012 at 6:08 am

    Btw Justin being spotted back in LA. He might come visit Jen ,just In case,,he.,he..he might thinking about the affair of Kristen and getting worry..about jen and her hot director…he..he..it’s my fantasy.

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  644. Siska said on July 28th, 2012 at 6:13 am

    @guest 3:So it’s ok to blame on the mick for the affair of Jolie when both being married already but not on brad ? And to blame Jen on hook up with Vince when the ink is not dry but not ok to blame on Jolie to got pregnant when the ink barely dry?

    Ha.ha what a double standard.

    I am amaze on the way you think.

    If you agree on Lainey about her theory,do you also agree on Lainey theory that Angie is piss on the press for making fun of her at the leg gate and cancel the Cannes appearance?

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  645. Siska said on July 28th, 2012 at 6:30 am

    @guest 3:Btw if you want to mention about vice,do you also realize that your idol is one infamous vice maker? Remember the brother kissing,bragging about her bedroom secret ,admitted she was into woman,more than once involved with a married men,well known hardcore drug user ( her ex dealer release some interesting pictures and she also admitted it), love S&M, reveal on interview has a sex dungeon,and look so skinnier and older than Jen who you said love to smoke,drinking ( which brangie still doing it also,remember the smoking picture on E Online after OScar night?)
    Plus if she truly change to be the mother of the year,why need to spread her leg on the Oscar night ?..she love attention. That’s why they became an actress,most of them are narcissists .

    Sorry mate you can not compare Jen single life with occasional drink and smoke as a bad vice without mention the vices of mother of 6 who love to flaunt her skinny leg just to carve some attention ( a former addict and self mutilation and depress person always has more baggage than plain Jen )
    And in the end Jen vices is nothing compare to angie. Her vices didn’t affect her family.

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  646. Guest2 said on July 28th, 2012 at 9:00 am

    @guest 3:
    Every man I know thinks jen is hot and they all think angie looks like an old, haggard and too skinny housefrau. as usual, your argument makes no sense just like Lainey. And who’s been jabbering about brangie here? Much of the commentary has been about the jacksons or robsten. It’s the tabloids who are calling Kristen a homewrecker and comparing her to the #1 homewrecker (angie of course). After all these years the label just won’t go away will it?

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  647. benjaminbutton14 said on July 28th, 2012 at 9:11 am

    anyone seen the Doug Pitt commercials for vodaphone. He seems to be making his mark now his commecials are really good.

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  648. HiediB said on July 28th, 2012 at 11:36 am

    That pig Fuggaston thinks she stole my man but guess who will have the last laugh?. My man will be back with me after he bilks the barren cow out of her money and self respect. Ha Ha Ha.

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  649. Patty Anne said on July 28th, 2012 at 11:39 am

    From what I’ve read they seemed to have been tipped off. They were following her for some time and had even staked out her gym which is where she hooked up with Rupert for this fiasco of in car photos. She left the gym and walked over to an underground parking garage ( open one) where she met up with Rupert. Then they drove around to several places until they came upon what the interviewer called, “their lovers lane” which was fairly secluded. Judging by the grainy photos I’d guess a long range lense was used, but enough details were visable to know what was occuring. Also, there have been blind items out for ages that hint at just this going on for some time now. I find it hilarious that she is now being called, “The New Angelina Jolie : Homewrecker”…..seems someone else is wanting to create a new, younger version of the triangle that leads to wealth.@Siska:

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  650. Patty Anne said on July 28th, 2012 at 11:49 am

    I doubt anyone really cares anymore what Angie and/or Brad do with their lives. The NOTW lawsuit brought about hard proof that they did indeed meet up with attorneys in 2010 in California and made a legal separation agreement because it came out in prosecuting Rupert Murdoch that their phones WERE tapped and that was where NOTW GOT THE SEPARATION NEWS> so who cares? They used their fans for seven long years to amass wealth and properties all the while making fun of their “loons” in interviews. You can still Google Brad’s insults to his fans (loons). They have shortened their fifteen minutes of fame by oversaturation in the press, and Angie has given so many candid interviews in print and on video over her years that she has no secrets left that would shock: Heroin user ( especially when she meets up with her Horse Buddy Marilyn Manson), several abortions ( mainly Timothy Hutton), bi-sexual, doesn’t require fidelity of her partner or herself, into S & M and loves bondage which is the reason for her “Sex Dungeon” and many other bits too vile to post here. All that made her star begin to raise but she overestimated her appeal and ruined it by straddling the line between Bad Girl Without Limits and Great Humanitarian/Mother. Those two don’t mix so her light is fading and she has become the mocked one of HW. The anorexic leg pose at Oscars finished it, everyone laughted out loud AT her then. Just stating what we know because no one really gives a damn Scarlett…..tomorrow is another day and another NEWER, YOUNGER star raises up from nowhere ….just look at Kristen Stewart. She had it all, and threw it away with her reputation just as Angee did. After all, who would want their daughters to emulate such socially unacceptable behavour? Rest easy, no one cares about her anymore, she has nothing to offer.

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  651. Up the Coast said on July 28th, 2012 at 12:01 pm

    @Siska:
    Bravo…nicely said :)

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  652. Up the Coast said on July 28th, 2012 at 12:14 pm

    @Patty Anne:
    The only reason people are interested in them… they are waiting for the breakup…like driving by a car accident, you just can’t help yourself, you have to look. It will be interesting to see how Ange handles the teenage years…what will she allow these kids to do? And will Brad be on board with bringing young girls into the house, to sleep with Maddox, Pax and Shiloh? :shock: Or maybe keep the lovin’ in house, with each other?

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  653. Up the Coast said on July 28th, 2012 at 1:46 pm

    Here are the people we have chosen to lead us :shock: really?
    http://www.youtube.com/embed/4CYqw4s6XF8?rel=0

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  654. oh snap said on July 28th, 2012 at 2:15 pm

    Poor Jennifer.. What is Justin doing while she is working.. Wrong wrong

    . Justin Theroux dining with a blonde (not Jennifer Aniston) at ABC Kitchen.
    http://www.nypost.com/p/pagesix/sightings_sN0FI7o6ZYkRHZctczuZDJ#ixzz21wQRHsV

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  655. HiediB said on July 28th, 2012 at 3:36 pm

    Well you assholes will be waiting long and hard for that breakup, including you Pattycakes and Bimbo Sisko. Why not worry about MCStumpie meeting up in NY with some blonde that is not Fuggaston. I can bet McStumpie and Fabio’s twin will be heading to splitsville before Brangie. So keep holding your breaths assholes.

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  656. Guest2 said on July 28th, 2012 at 4:28 pm

    @Up the Coast:
    OMG, that was hilarious.

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  657. Up the Coast said on July 28th, 2012 at 7:56 pm

    @Guest2:
    what a bunch of nose pickers :lol:

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  658. Guest2 said on July 28th, 2012 at 8:00 pm

    @Up the Coast:
    :lol:

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  659. Up the Coast said on July 28th, 2012 at 8:19 pm

    @Guest2:
    Have you come across any pics of Brad/Ange at the Olympics? I can’t find any…

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  660. joanne said on July 28th, 2012 at 8:38 pm

    @Up the Coast:
    I like the one who washed it down with coffee.

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  661. Up the Coast said on July 28th, 2012 at 8:47 pm

    @joanne:
    Wasn’t that an Italian politician…Berlusconi? He thinks he’s a big ladies man :lol:

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  662. Guest2 said on July 28th, 2012 at 10:02 pm

    @joanne:
    I liked the one who didn’t know what to do with it so he patted his colleague on the shoulder.

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  663. Guest2 said on July 28th, 2012 at 10:48 pm

    @Up the Coast:
    No, I haven’t seen any. I think if they were there we would have photos and they would be on FF. I was reading this blind about a child who hasn’t been seen in public for a while because he’s been acting out. I was thinking it might be Pax. If they’re having problems at home with this child it might explain why we haven’t seen them in so long.

    http://blindgossip.com/?p=46076#comments

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  664. Up the Coast said on July 28th, 2012 at 11:04 pm

    @Guest2:
    They were a no-show, at their big event. http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/brangelina-kick-off-olympic-party/story-e6freuy9-1226436357887

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  665. Siska said on July 29th, 2012 at 6:11 am

    @Patty Anne:yep.it might be so.
    In Aussie tabs already been saying months ago about Kristen want to be the next Jolie. So her recent behavior seem going to that road.
    It’s funny when scandal about home wrecking or cheating come out,Jolie name always being mention..he..he

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  666. Siska said on July 29th, 2012 at 6:15 am

    @Up the Coast:Thanks sweetie.
    The hypocritical type fans make my blood boil….he..he

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  667. Siska said on July 29th, 2012 at 6:16 am

    Justin spotted leaving la,I suspect he will fly out to new Carolina to visit Jen. I’m missing jusjen pictures..hope will come out soon.

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  668. Siska said on July 29th, 2012 at 6:18 am

    Anybody into the show called bachelorette ? I am into Emily and jef. I love it.

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  669. guest 3 said on July 29th, 2012 at 9:30 am

    No man that I know in his 20’s or 30’s considers 44 year old JA hot..A Hot Aunt, maybe .kristen is not being compared to Jolie, she’s being compared to Leanne Rhimes and possibly Liz Taylor. Until this day, no one has provided photos of Brad and Angie in a compromising or in a intimate position prior to Brad’s divorce. kristen was seen being eaten out in a car by her director and his wife played her mother in the film. so she knew his wife and that he had 2 kids. Angie was neither friends with JA, didn’t know her and they were a childless couple with marrigage issues . if someone can provide a photo of Jolie in the same compromising position at 22 years old or even with Brad before the divorce was finalized . Bring it on!! But there are photos of a JA humping VV on the balcony and at a park prior to the divorce being finalized.

    Quite honesty, I never thought much of KS but with this scandal she’s more exciting.. I think her popularity will increase.. Why? because she’s now seen as a young heartbreaker. That’s more exciting than a dull , plain jane that lucks up with the HW sexy hunk. A woman that can break hearts…. That’s why Angie, Liz, Marilyn are popular… They are portrayed as women that are so powerful that they can break-up families and still generate $$$$. Like men.. Paul Newman left his wife and 3 kids to marry a pregnant Joanne Woodard., Michael Douglass left his wife of 19 years to inpregnate CZJ who had his baby 1 year before his divorce was finalized . Women wake up! You are being played by men in HW. They do this shite all the time but god forbid a woman play them they are forever labeled with the Scarlett letter.

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  670. joanne said on July 29th, 2012 at 9:39 am

    @guest 3:
    My daughters rinds who is between the ages 16- 20 thinks she is hot. Maybe you hang around with loons. BTW, they thought AJ was older.

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  671. joanne said on July 29th, 2012 at 9:40 am

    oops thats friends.

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  672. joanne said on July 29th, 2012 at 10:12 am

    @joanne:
    friends who are. :oops: :lol:

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  673. janindisguise said on July 29th, 2012 at 11:58 am

    @Up the Coast:
    Hahaha! Love the nose pickers and the humpers. Most of those people are so inbred,me thinks. Thanks for sharing.

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  674. Guest2 said on July 29th, 2012 at 1:03 pm

    @guest 3:
    They sure as hell don’t think the 37 going on 50 mother of six is sexy. Especially when she wears her granny tent dresses and hats. But you go ahead and believe it if it makes you feel better. Delusions can be a real comfort (to the delusional).

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  675. Up the Coast said on July 29th, 2012 at 1:28 pm

    @joanne:
    She obviously does not know any men who are in their 20’s or 30’s then. Jen was voted the Sexiest Woman of ALL TIME, by a Men’s Magazine! Geez, these idiot loons really do live in their own damn world :roll:

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  676. Patty Anne said on July 29th, 2012 at 1:32 pm

    Wow, someone who considers Angie, Liz and Marilyn people to emulate. Whores, sluts, drunks, druggies, adulterers…..low standards huh?

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  677. Up the Coast said on July 29th, 2012 at 1:33 pm

    @janindisguise:
    ;)

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  678. Up the Coast said on July 29th, 2012 at 1:36 pm

    @Guest2:
    :lol: so true. Even Octomom was able to snag a boyfriend…so what.

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  679. Up the Coast said on July 29th, 2012 at 1:36 pm

    @Patty Anne:
    Birds of a feather…

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  680. Guest1 said on July 29th, 2012 at 2:25 pm

    @guest 3:
    “if someone can provide a photo of Jolie in the same compromising position at 22 years old or even with Brad before the divorce was finalized”

    Shiloh was conceived the summer before BP and JA divorce was finalized in October. Are you telling us BP is not Shiloh’s father?

    Just google “Kristen Stewart, Angelina Jolie” and see what articles come up.

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  681. Kate said on July 29th, 2012 at 3:15 pm

    @guest 3:

    Hi Guest 3, I hope you will not mind if I comment on this home wrecking and cheating debate, it has gone on for so many years now. I see so many various opinions by Brange fans, so I am curious, sincerely. We all share one thing that I am sure of, a human heart.

    What is cheating in a monogamus relationship? What is monogamus relationship? Marriage, two people who love each and live together, two that committed to each other but are not married, can not be married, a same sex couple, or a partner has been incapaciated for years in a hospital? A couple that has an open relationship, but agrees to not see others without each others knowledge? Cheating is lying in the most basic principle. One has to lie to cover the behavior that would lead their partner to understand they had been betrayed them. Is betrayal more painful when children have been born or adopted into a relationship? Is that cheating more painful than someone who is pregnant, or someone who just had a miscarriage, or a woman or man who can not have children? Where do you draw the line to what constitutes is worse? Is kissing your coworker and falling in love less painful for your partner than a one night stand? I often see someone say, “well they were not married so it is not cheating”, but many can not marry or just do not believe in it. Does it hurt less? Ask them? Would they be jealous, angry, forgiving, be insecure, feel it was their fault, be resentful? The trust will be broken, and in all of these situations, wouldn’t you agree? How can you argue the what is the greater or less of when it comes to the human heart? Can a parent in a support group of deceased children, claim their pain is worst because of the way their child died, or because their child was a year older. No, I can tell you from experience that it is not possible, and every persons heart handles grief differently, men and women, old and young, we all grieve differently. What do you think? Is an elderly couple that does not marry, for whatever reason, benefits, children, hurt any less, deserve it any more if one cheats? Does a same sex couple? A hetero couple? Is marriage the gold standard for cheating, is intercourse. oral sex, one night stand, how does one say, what is cheating who is hurt more. Relationships are destroyed over internet affairs , and those involved have never met? How easily and how deeply would your heart forgive and forget?

    People cheat in the movie industry without much thought, and Brad and Angelina are no different. Angelina was pregnant before the ink was dry on his divorce, the first photo of them kissing was long before that divorce, but I suspect you meant seperation. There are witnesses to that cheating as well. Flirting on the set, snogging at a party, and etc. More important, was her pregnancy planned, or did she get knocked up? In the early years that was her claim, but as history was rewritten, the pregnancy and adoptions were planned from the beginning. Yes, even Zahara, but this is not the point of discussion. Just another betrayal, and one that has also been forgiven .

    Lets discuss a more relevant and serious topic though that I believe Ian has been leaning towards for awhile now. How does incest occur in a functional family(Ange says her mother was perfect), and what are the long term affects on the victims? Not a pleasant subject , but there are many victims of this crime. It is a crime, punishable by incarcenation in most countries .Did you read Morton’s book on how Angelina was banished to the little white room, like a little princess to be ignored and damaged? (sadly damaged ) The book , while it did bring out many of her vices, painted her with a wide brush. Her mother’s best friend, Bill Day, her father, some of her family, people that have worked with her over the years were interviewed for this book.(he stole Ian’s chapter and did not give him credit though) It is not difficult to see that Angelina had a difficult time developing a clear sense of who she was. Her mother essentially was not a mom, she wanted to be a star also, and her best friend) Her father , while he tried at times, was absense , off with his girlfriends and his career..I will not copy this entire article, but I think many will see how it applies to her. and how she grew up. I found this interesting in how she relates to her children, publicly” Particularly Shiloh.

    Rather than intimacy which requires balance and cooperation of both parties, the child learns that love is earned and is expressed through duty. This destroys true intimacy. As adults, these children generally find their value in caretaking and their worth in performance. Rather than finding intimacy as a caregiver, they end up using those they care for as objects which provide them with self-worth which is what their adult parent did with them when they were children. Their lives become defined by the needs of others and at the expense of themselves.

    http://botkinsyndrome.blogspot.com/p/enmeshment-and-botkin-syndrome.html

    Of course we do not know where the fusion of boundaries occured, but from what Ian has mentioned we know what it has led to, and that is “Brotherly Love” and as mentioned in that post, offspring/s. I believe that was a clue somewhere in that riddle.

    Which is the greater sin? Cheating or Incest? I hope your answer to that is there is not a greater sin, because they both involve matters of the heart, they both inflict harm, pain, betrayal, to all involved. If a child was born of the later, then that Guest 3 is the far greater consequence, and all betrayal leads to consequences.

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  682. Up the Coast said on July 29th, 2012 at 4:13 pm

    @Kate:
    Hey Kate! That website is a fascinating read :( The fact that Ange’s (perfect) mom treated her as a “friend” and now Ange says she is her children’s “friend”, shows a lack of understanding by her mother and now Ange, of what parenting is. Ange, like her mother, pushes her own agenda onto these children…then justifies it by saying it is what the children want to do…it is who they are. If the intention of this manipulation is merely for self-centered purposes…that is purely evil.

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  683. Kate said on July 29th, 2012 at 5:05 pm

    @Up the Coast:
    It is sad really though isn’t it? I have a difficult time with where to draw the line of where a person should be accountable. I think in Angelina’s case she can and should be because she has demonstrated that she is bright and controlled enough to keep her and career together. She has been able to reinvent her career several times, and placed herself in a position where she has had to answer to those of higher authority. She has walked with international diplomats, worked with UN officials and been part of enough official meetings in D.C. that has required to be well read enough to answer questions and take part of the discussions at hand. These are taped meetings. If Angelina can be capable of self educating herself to the point of taking all that on with a high school education(almost), then I have to assume then she is certainly capable of getting counseling for herself and family if warranted. The question is though, does she understand that it is? I think that is where good vs evil comes in to play and how we view various situations.

    I was surprised at the number of countries that incest is not illegal in, as long as it is consenting adults. I was more surprised that there are states in the US that take the same stance. I suppose it gets down to morals and what one feels is right and wrong. How far does the line get pushed. Where will it be stopped? To us some of this seems inconceivable, but to those who practice incest or wife swapping it is no more immoral to them than sex outside marriage. Is she a victim of abuse, depression,followed by mental problems, or just a cold calculating evil woman. I would imagine the emotions are somewhere in between. Victims often feel enough hurt to want to inflict pain on others, because they are hurt, resentful, or evil . In her case I don’t know. I think she is a complicated woman who had a questionable childhood. So have many kids. What has made her different? The hurt, the narcissism, what is the driving force? I think she can be evil, I don’t know if she is evil. Sadam, yes. Definitely evil. Each appears to be a “path”, she is the lesser of I think, the socio is always the worst you would want to come face to face with yes? Thinking Jeffery D. There was a special recently about babies born as sociopath. Imagine the horror the parent would face, and the conflict. Life is not fair, and in the end I think all of these people know the difference between right and wrong. It just gets down to what they believe is wrong. That is how I view Angelina, she does not necessarily think the same things are wrong that many do (lying, cheating), and boundaries are no where close to the average persons, and that is not her fault, but she is accountable for crossing them, as we all are. :)

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  684. Up the Coast said on July 29th, 2012 at 5:54 pm

    @Kate:
    It is surprising, in this day and age…but it seems as far as we’ve come, as a civilization…we are still re-inventing the wheel with every new generation. Just look at how many people are still trying to justify what happened at Penn State. I wonder what Ange’s opinion of that situation is? Jerry Sandusky told the boy, in a voicemail, that he loved him….so does that make it okay?
    As for Ange being intelligent…I think she has learned from trial and error to be a great manipulator. She does appear to hold her own around the elitist muckity-mucks, but she is the token actress/bimbo, afterall ;)

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  685. Kate said on July 29th, 2012 at 6:17 pm

    @Up the Coast:
    Justify? How is that even possible? Then again,many did for RP didn’t they? Brange was silent on that, but JD was vocal. Makes you wonder doesn’t it? I would be more interested in knowing what Brad thought. We never were told the extent of the Kickapoo incident, which end of that was he on? I would think it would color his view a bit. I believe he has a genuine concern for his children, but he may be too brainwashed by the devil he sold out to. He was not looking all that much better than she was in the last few months. Maybe he wised up and is in rehab somewhere, or the paps are just not into them anymore. ;)

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  686. Siska said on July 29th, 2012 at 6:19 pm

    @guest 3:ha.ha. Are you being ignorance or just plain silly? Jen win MTV hottest artist of the year last year and the sexist woman of the century by men magazine and she always win vote for sexist body till this year. Unfortunately your idol seem to lost to Jen on that matter.
    To said that no men in the 20-30 find Jen sexy,you must never heard Internet? Google it,and even there are plenty of you tube account dedicated for her from her male fans.
    I think you seem not really that aware or open mind at all,you still deny that Jolie with home wrecking actually being mention a lot in the media. It seem a bit foolish of you. That’s why I’m laughing at you post.

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  687. Siska said on July 29th, 2012 at 6:30 pm

    @guest 3:Jen is single,hot body,no kids,layback,cool.funny compare to Angie 6 kids,skinny body and chasing a saint image,too serious . Which is more attractive to men?
    Oh you still not deny that Shiloh is Bp kid? So you must be smart enough to calculate that she being conceived when the divorce not final? How about the W mag photo spread? The Kenya holiday picture? And the candid picture of them hugging at the set of the mr smith movie? All this before the ink was dry plus their own statement and the producer account on his bio about Jen kick brad out after known the affair.
    Jen actually defend brad in her interview by saying she choose to believe her hubby statement bout not having physical affair yet. But you idol throw her under the bus by saying their marriage is so boring that made him want to find something (someone) new.

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  688. Up the Coast said on July 29th, 2012 at 6:43 pm

    @Kate:
    I’m thinking the paps just aren’t that into them anymore, there’s too many other “things” going on right now, and they aren’t a priority. I’m sure that when Ange does surface, she’ll explain that she did it on purpose ;)

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  689. Tetta said on July 29th, 2012 at 7:17 pm

    There are so many aspects and angles in the Brangiston saga. We seem to forget them as soon Ian gives us a new clue. The question of incest is just one of them. The question if Angelina has some intelligence or if she just imitates others to sound like she knows certain things is interesting. But the skill of imitating also demands intelligence.

    We ought to have a whiteboard with all peoples involved marked and we could draw lines between them and make some notes. To try to find out how the forces flow is a real detective work. it´s just what Ian is doing but it´s hard for him to explain when he isn´t allowed to say it in plain english without getting sued. But it all began when Angelina was locked into a white room. I´m sure you are right that the relation between Angelina and her so called mother is the root, at least to a part of what we se today. Brad probably had a troubled childhood too. I don´t find it strange anymore that he has doubts about his religion and that this issue has colored his life. I didn´t understand until Jane Pitt´s “letter” was published how complicated Brad´s life is.
    As he lives in a complete different life, who he thinks his family would accept, his own mam declares her opinion. If the late director ingemar Bergaman was still alive he could do a very good movie out of this. Maybe it could have been worth an Oscar.

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  690. rupeeturdock@turdville.com said on July 30th, 2012 at 1:02 am

    AS A COUNTRY WE HAVE FAR FAR FAR MORE SERIOUS ISSUES TO WORRY ABOUT THAN GAY MARRIAGE, HW STARS AND THEIR CUM PHUCKERY, CHEATING SCANDALS, FAKE HARLOT MARRIAGES, FAGGOTRY BEARDING, WHOM IS SCHLONGING WHOMEVER, OR ANYTHING ELSE RELATED TO THESE UN-HOLEY SAWDUST FILLED WOODPECKER HEADS, THEIR FAKE SCIENO CRAP, THERE DISGUSTING BUGGERING WHILE THE COUNTRY IS FALLING APART AT THE SEAMS, AND WE ARE DRIVING THE ROAD TO, AND INTO PERDITION’S FLAME SIN SOME BONNEY DREAM CAR!!!! IF YOU ARE NOT PAYING ATTENTION NERO CHESAR IS PLAYING HIS FIDDLE!!!

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  691. Togi said on July 30th, 2012 at 1:37 am

    Kate, your post was so beautifully written. Can’t even express my appreciation. A broken heart is a broken heart is a broken heart.@Kate:

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  692. haki said on July 30th, 2012 at 2:15 am

    Kate, brilliant writing, as usual!

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  693. Up the Coast said on July 30th, 2012 at 1:56 pm

    Mayor Bloomberg is at it again. Now he’s trying to force women to breast feed their babies. What happened to the right to choose? If a woman isn’t going to eat right, and not drink alcohol, she should be giving her baby formula, instead of breast milk. This is a personal choice, and the Mayor needs to butt out!

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  694. Kate said on July 30th, 2012 at 2:41 pm

    @Togi:
    Can you think of a more intimate experience of any kind that we have as human beings, ever, than with the heart? Happiness, love, those are pleasant intimate experiences, but a broken heart takes full control and often does not heal. One does not have control over the pain, the hurt, and the full range of emotions that come with it. How can we as compassionate beings say that one is worse than the next? I always wonder when I hear those comments why that person is more devoted to a fan, than to their fellow human beings. How do belittle the pain another feels only to prop up a movie star? I have seen that from all camps , it is difficult to understand, yes a broken heart is a broken heart, and it does not matter why or why, the pain is the same. A lyric from a song I love “Nobody knows what we’re for only what we’re against when we judge the wounded” . It easy to point fingers, very very hard to “Open our eyes to the world at the end of our pointing fingers”, do you know this song? Jesus, Friend of Sinners, by Casting Crowns. I fail daily, but I love this song, and try my best each day to do better.

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  695. Kate said on July 30th, 2012 at 2:51 pm

    @haki:
    Hi Haki, sweet words, but no, I just have complicated feelings about judging pain in another. I think as we get older, and look back in life at the things we have experienced we see there is no gauge. I was so foolish when I lost a child, I honestly thought, I will never have to feel this kind of pain again, because this is my dose for my life. How foolish to think such a thing. I am thankful I have not faced that kind of pain again, but I know that I will , it is only a matter of time. Age brings wisdom, and your heart does not forget . :)

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  696. Kate said on July 30th, 2012 at 2:57 pm

    @Up the Coast:
    I read that, and was so disappointed in how this is being handled. Many hospitals already do this, but he did not need to make this so public. Formula is kept locked often and has to be signed out so that the nurse can try and persuade the mother to nurse. I understand that, but there is a line that is crossed that can be very damaging to a new mother. The time to address this is before they give birth. Possibly they should offer free classes, again, instead of trying to make a profit off of teaching young women to breastfeed and how to avoid the complications that can arise. This is very unfair to women who can not breastfeed. Let’s guilt them into it. He does need to step out of this. Poorly handled, socialism on it’s way. jmho. Have a nice day, have to run!

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  697. Kate said on July 30th, 2012 at 3:01 pm

    @Tetta:
    Tetta, you have good organizational skills, maybe you could do that. :) I am brain dead from the riddles and can not remember the clues without going through them again. I just remember bits and pieces. That one part stands out to me because Ian was out front about that particular riddle being about Haven and Ange. His words when we asked, and there are some things in it that seem to point in that direction, among others. I wonder if that is why Brad is always linked to Jen. Maybe she also knows. I have no idea really though. Twisted lives.

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  698. janindisguise said on July 30th, 2012 at 4:35 pm

    @Up the Coast:
    I think he (they) were testing the waters with the large size cola ban. Breast-feeding? Again, he’s crossed the line.

    Do you want to know where I think Blooming Bloomers should go? What a little worm.

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  699. haki said on July 30th, 2012 at 4:40 pm

    Kate, I’m so sorry to hear about your loss.
    That is probably the worst kind of pain.
    This world is so temporary, an illusion. And death is a like rebirth.. into all the other worlds of God. You will be united with your child and loved ones again. This world is all about tests and difficulties & prepares us for the next world. This is where we get to practice all the virtues like patience, compassion, steadfastness, etc. but the next realm is about God’s compassion and forgiveness. That is what I believe. And that is what keeps me going.

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  700. Tetta said on July 30th, 2012 at 4:41 pm

    @Kate:

    Nice to “see” you Kate ! Don´t overestimate my organizational skills. If you had said that for about five years ago i perhaps agreed but today it´s frightening how much i forget and how many things that don´t get right because I havn´t planned it properly. I slowly begin to realize i must write a list when I´m going to the grocery and make a note when I have a time at the dentist. At the same time I remember a lot of both good and bad things that I have been through during the years and suddenly I understand what I have learned by this. Sometimes it´s good for the brain with a cold rainy summer. It was now I would have seen the US version of “The girl with the dragon tattoo” but time flies away even when it´s raining. It´s easy to get caught by the internet and all things that is written. It is a weird world we live in. Perhaps Ian is a real psychologist. He lets us know the truth well embedded so we don´t will be shocked. Kate, I hope it doesn´t rain where you are so you are able to see the sun now and then.

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  701. Up the Coast said on July 30th, 2012 at 4:52 pm

    @janindisguise:
    Hey Jan…did you see this? http://rense.com/general95/realjames.html

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  702. Tetta said on July 30th, 2012 at 4:58 pm

    @Kate:

    When I saw Haki´s comment I realized that I forgot to say I´m sad about your loss. Life isn´t only weird. It´s also very cruel and I think all of us have to go through the bad things. We react in different ways and use what we learn in different ways. A couple of days ago I got a present, a book with poems ” It is always darkest before dawn “. And I think the title is worth thinking of. It´s what I have learned after many years.

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  703. Guest2 said on July 30th, 2012 at 7:16 pm

    @Kate:
    Kate, I did not know you lost a child and am so very sorry to hear it. I cannot imagine a greater loss and hope that time will make your loss less painful. Haki’s comment was beautifully written that all I can say is that I agree with what she said.

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  704. Kate said on July 30th, 2012 at 7:20 pm

    @Haki@Tetta-I am sorry ladies, I didn’t mean to make this sad in anyway, I am one of several mothers on here that have been part of “Compassionate Friends”, whether in spirit or in body. I tend to forget all don’t know that. :) . We become who we are from all our life experiences. I made that comparison though about the heart specifically because I have a dear friend in CF that has struggled over the years with the loss of his son, and he had so much anger at how people compared their pain to his. It has been so hard for him ,we just can not ever say one heartbreak is more painful than another. One may weather the death of a child, and the next may have a psychotic break: pet dies, marriage ends. If it hurts, then it does, and that is ok.

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  705. Guest2 said on July 30th, 2012 at 7:24 pm

    @Up the Coast:
    WTF???

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  706. Up the Coast said on July 30th, 2012 at 7:50 pm

    @Guest2:
    I know. So who are we gonna believe? The MSM or our lying eyes?

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  707. Dream said on July 30th, 2012 at 8:23 pm

    national treasure
    nick cage
    jp\on voight
    awkward

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  708. Guest2 said on July 30th, 2012 at 9:40 pm

    @Up the Coast:
    I wonder if this will ever go to trial or if he’ll be declared incompetent to stand trial.

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  709. janindisguise said on July 30th, 2012 at 10:00 pm

    @Up the Coast:
    No my dear – I did not see that. But thanks. That kind of blows up my theory. I saw in the San Diego newspaper, right after this happened, stuff about his father. They took the dad out of the house early the morning after, leaving his family in home to be guarded.

    Dad is a very smart man, involved in neurology. It said that after Holmes kid graduated from high school, he was sent to Stanford (known for mind control out of many other locations), for the summer where they did neuro tricks (that’s my word) and I believe, based on that alone, that the young man underwent some sort of neurological change – on purpose.

    The family (the 2 males at least) seem to be heavy into that area of study. That never made it to mainstream and if it had, I don’t think too many people would be familiar with mind control to see the clues. Mainstream media is owned by those f – - – ers.

    I also believe that no matter how the event was accomplished, it was for the agenda of gun snatching. Good luck with THAT I say. I’ve read too many blogs on it to see how many are not going to go with that agenda, although sadly some will. Truth be known, “they” are afraid of the “sheeple” more than the other way around.

    And finally, I must say that I am sick and tired of seeing these things happen. It MUST stop at once. Oh yea, and the new word about the perp is that he “snapped”. No! He received triggers for every thing he did – the shootings, the Clown alter, the appearance in court (that was not IMO) drugs – he was told what to say and how to “be” all through the “exercise”, one trigger at a time.

    And that’s what my theory is.

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  710. Up the Coast said on July 30th, 2012 at 10:12 pm

    @Guest2:
    I don’t know…but I’m sure they will drag it out, and bring it up whenver “they” need to re-direct our attention away from something else they are doing. This guy doesn’t appear to be the real James Holmes tho…or is the other guy the real James Holmes??? :shock:

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  711. Guest2 said on July 30th, 2012 at 10:15 pm

    Brad is alive and well…

    http://www.popsugar.com/

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  712. Up the Coast said on July 30th, 2012 at 10:20 pm

    @janindisguise:
    I’ve been reading that James’ father was supposed to testify before congress, a couple of days before this went down. Apparently he created the algorithm that was used to discover the massive banking fraud scheme. The plot thickens…. http://www.redicecreations.com/article.php?id=20936

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  713. Up the Coast said on July 30th, 2012 at 10:22 pm

    @Guest2:
    Somebody at FF said he looks like Mickey Rourke :shock: he’s heading that way…he just needs a little dog.

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  714. Guest1 said on July 30th, 2012 at 10:33 pm

    @Up the Coast:
    I had previously noticed he looks different in his pictures, but thought I was just imaging it until I saw the link you posted. I googled this, and came up with the following:

    http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message1936364/pg1

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  715. janindisguise said on July 30th, 2012 at 10:35 pm

    @Up the Coast:
    Algorithm: I would have to say, again IMO, that he is on the “other side” as far as discovering massive banking fraud scheme. Sounds like a good story, however, I would say he’s on the side of the “elites”.

    Anyhow, if someone ever brought out mind control (and that’s doubtful) and showed that as the reasoning behind the shooter’s behavior, then others could be prosecuted. As far as insanity, they could redo the law to include or exclude mind control subjects. Deep legal stuff and I’m not a lawyer, but I have worked there for a loooonnnnnnnnngggg time. (Come October, I can be free to be about my Father’s business – Yahoo!)

    Shalom.

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  716. janindisguise said on July 30th, 2012 at 10:39 pm

    @Guest1:
    Regarding that picture link you shared, his lips are definitely different and the nose width. The eyes can, as you know, change size relating to electrodes and how much voltage. (electrodes can also cause large veins).

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  717. Up the Coast said on July 30th, 2012 at 10:56 pm

    Everyone is questioning this: http://www.naturalnews.com/036536_James_Holmes_shooting_false_flag.html

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  718. Up the Coast said on July 31st, 2012 at 12:10 am

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oDCW-qNY50A&feature=relmfu

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  719. janindisguise said on July 31st, 2012 at 8:44 am

    Very interesting finds UTC. I hope and pray that more people are waking up to what’s really going on in this nation. Once once knows the enemies’ end goal, it all makes sense.

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  720. janindisguise said on July 31st, 2012 at 8:45 am

    once one knows.

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  721. HisHighness said on July 31st, 2012 at 9:54 am

    @Kate: So sorry Kate about your loss. All of our thoughts and positive energy is sent your way. You are extremely brave and a role model to us all. xoxoxox

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  722. WCKitty said on July 31st, 2012 at 1:34 pm

    Thank you Ian for your article in regards to Debbie Rowe. I have been wondering where she was and how she felt about what was going on with her children and the custody issues. I’m glad to hear that she is monitoring the situation and that she is on good terms with her children.

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  723. lol said on August 1st, 2012 at 4:43 pm

    And the crazies are still here obsessing.. LOL> nothing ever changes.

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  724. benjaminbutton14 said on August 6th, 2012 at 7:22 pm

    Correction not that anyone cares Doug Pitt does Commercials for Virgin not Vodaphone.

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