IUC World Exclusive: Just Go With It…Grooving In The Garden!!!! Fred At Red Is A-1 Class Act!!!!

Posted on June 11th, 2012 by HisHighness in IUC:Entertainment, IUC:Exclusive

Jen’s booty dress…giving to the poor…living the wisdom of the tao…grooving in the garden…like a star wiz…oven and shaker menu…midnight express calls to ex…fix heated phone…tapping into the emotional void…Just go with it…Derailed…Picture Perfect…singing to the choir…have you ever been bonded…losing you to the crowd…busted and disgusted!!!!JenniferAnistongrooving
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  1. payal said on June 11th, 2012 at 10:20 am

    thank you Ian!!

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  2. HisHighness said on June 11th, 2012 at 10:22 am

    Pleasure!!!!

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  3. Sparkling Twinkle said on June 11th, 2012 at 10:32 am

    yay a jen related one!

    thanks Ian x

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  4. Sparkling Twinkle said on June 11th, 2012 at 10:36 am

    wasnt there a blind that some Alist actress gives all her freebies she aquires away to people, no strings, just gives them away!

    Its clear that she is in contact with an ex, who tho? Pitt? mayer?
    or would it be justin and heidi?
    the list is of some her movies…about being something you are not! a false perception of what you really are.

    My guess is she is either insecure at present or – she has been badly let down again in someone

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  5. liv4 said on June 11th, 2012 at 10:58 am

    Groovin in the Garden suggests a musician.

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  6. Sparkling Twinkle said on June 11th, 2012 at 11:11 am

    @liv4:

    John mayer the ex???

    but also jen booty dress – could it be JLO?

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  7. Sparkling Twinkle said on June 11th, 2012 at 11:13 am

    is tao wisdom meaning classic or simple way?

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  8. liv4 said on June 11th, 2012 at 11:17 am

    @Sparkling Twinkle:
    I don’t know. The whole thing reads to me of a “partnership” relationship and the ex sounds like it is a musician.

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  9. Sparkling Twinkle said on June 11th, 2012 at 11:18 am

    this whole exclusive is in my eyes (jmo) pointing towards a musical feel!

    Goree girls going ahead? or mayer :(

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  10. Guest2 said on June 11th, 2012 at 11:20 am

    Thank you HRH.

    Living the wisdom of the tao is the name of an inspirational book by Dr. Wayne Dyer about changing your thoughts thereby changing your life. Losing you to the crowd is a song (with repetitive lyrics). Don’t know what this means but wanted to contribute something:

    Losing You To The Crowd lyrics

    I just wanna sleep in the sun
    I just wanna sleep in the sun
    Girl I think I’m losing you to the crowd
    Girl I think I’m losing you to the crowd, yeah
    You don’t seem to mind, do you?

    I don’t know your face anymore
    When you put that mask on
    You left me in the dark
    You left me in the dark

    I just wanna sleep in the sun
    I just wanna sleep in the sun
    I just wanna sleep in the sun
    I just wanna sleep in the sun
    [- From: http://www.elyrics.net/read/n/nat-&-alex-wolff-lyrics/losing-you-to-the-crowd-lyrics.html -]
    I just wanna sleep in the sun
    I just wanna sleep in the sun
    I just wanna sleep in the sun

    Girl I think I’m losing you to the crowd, yeah
    Girl I think I’m losing you to the crowd, yeah
    Girl I think I’m losing you to the crowd, yeah yeah yeah
    yeah (losing you to the crowd)
    Girl I think I’m losing you
    I’m losing you, yeah no no no no
    Girl I think I’m losing you

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  11. Sparkling Twinkle said on June 11th, 2012 at 11:21 am

    @liv4:
    She did date Adam Duritz also musical

    Im just not a mayer fan, the guy isnt likeable for me, she could and has done better I think

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  12. liv4 said on June 11th, 2012 at 11:21 am

    And in all 3 movies listed she pretended to have relationships that weren’t real or what they seemed.

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  13. joanne said on June 11th, 2012 at 11:22 am

    http://www.metrolyrics.com/tapping-into-the-emotional-void-lyrics-excel.html

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  14. payal said on June 11th, 2012 at 11:26 am

    @liv4:
    interesting, about the movies. i have to say with the calls to the ex the first person i thought of was brad.

    http://www.groovininthegarden.net/ they mention someone called justin…?

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  15. Sparkling Twinkle said on June 11th, 2012 at 11:28 am

    @liv4:

    I had forgotten about that part liv!!! well remembered!!

    So is Ian hinting that jen and justin arent a real couple?

    @joanne:
    Painful lyrics indeed !!

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  16. Guest2 said on June 11th, 2012 at 11:43 am

    Like a star is a song by wiz khalifa.

    http://www.songlyrics.com/wiz-khalifa/like-a-star-lyrics/

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  17. Guest2 said on June 11th, 2012 at 11:47 am

    @payal:
    It’s in Richmond, VA – isn’t that where justin’s mother lives or somewhere nearby?

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  18. Guest2 said on June 11th, 2012 at 11:48 am

    @Sparkling Twinkle:
    She is supposed to sing in goree girls so maybe she’s taking lessons from someone (please let it be anyone but mayer).

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  19. payal said on June 11th, 2012 at 12:03 pm

    we need rushdog and kate!

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  20. Sparkling Twinkle said on June 11th, 2012 at 12:13 pm

    @Guest2:
    I agree :lol: anyone but mayer!

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  21. Sparkling Twinkle said on June 11th, 2012 at 12:14 pm

    @payal:
    ooh good find :D

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  22. Patty Anne said on June 11th, 2012 at 12:16 pm

    http://shirtoid.com/31155/star-wiz/

    “like a star wiz”

    “Greetings from Mos Eisley”
    ” A wretched Hive Of Scum And Villainy” STAR WIZ

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  23. Patty Anne said on June 11th, 2012 at 12:19 pm

    Change Your Thoughts – Change Your Life: Living the Wisdom of …www.amazon.com/Change-Your…Living-Wisdom/dp/1401911846Cached – Similar
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    : Change Your Thoughts – Change Your Life: Living the Wisdom of the Tao (9781401911843): Dr. Wayne W. Dyer: Books.

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  24. Patty Anne said on June 11th, 2012 at 12:23 pm

    Groovin’ in the Garden Concerts – Event Details – Events & Exhibits …www.lewisginter.org/events/event_detail.php?event_id=736Cached
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    Details: Ticketed event. Please note this is a special after-hours event; Garden admission during the day does not entitle persons to stay for the concert.

    Could this mean that just because I act lovey-dovey with you during daytime it dosen’t mean I intend to spend the night in your bed? Derailed = fake romance, Just Go With It = fake romance. I hope I’m not right with this one.

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  25. Patty Anne said on June 11th, 2012 at 12:26 pm

    Midnight Express Calls To The Ex

    MNX: The leader in mission critical international and domestic …www.mnx.com/Cached – Similar
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    Next flight out, supply chain and express freight services … Formerly known as Midnite Express, MNX offers services in three key areas: express, supply chain, …

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  26. Sparkling Twinkle said on June 11th, 2012 at 12:26 pm

    @Patty Anne:
    again does this point to jen and justin? – is the clue purely central to jen, an ex or a fake romance

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  27. Patty Anne said on June 11th, 2012 at 12:28 pm

    http://www.mnx.com/

    MNX provides critical and security sensitive global transportation and logistics services to diverse industries including entertainment & media, aviation, consumer products, financial & government, high tech, life sciences, medical devices, and 4 PL shipping.

    Formerly known as Midnite Express, MNX offers services in three key areas: express, supply chain, and freight. This includes market leading logistical solutions such as First Flight Out and Dedicated Hand Carry.

    @Patty Anne:

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  28. Sparkling Twinkle said on June 11th, 2012 at 12:29 pm

    or midnight express – to escape! ie escapism phonecalls to an ex!

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  29. joanne said on June 11th, 2012 at 12:30 pm

    Thinking of the movie Picture Perfect, what if Aniston and JT started off in a contract but actually fell for one another? Thats how i would like it to end but once again its not my life.
    Oven and Shaker is a partnership between 3 accomplished industry veterens. They are all in on the triangle? So the joke is on us?

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  30. Patty Anne said on June 11th, 2012 at 12:32 pm

    Ian’s riddles are current conditions WHEN THEY ARE POSTED ( not shouting sweets), and can change within a day, week, or year. This then, imo, is what is happening now and a bit of background leading to it’s explanation. Something (one) is being shipped covertly. Brad is in Europe, Jen just left for Europe with Justin. I’m certainly hoping I’m getting this wrong, but it seems to me to indicate connection between Brad and Jennifer that is still strong, but in what way? For what purpose? The listing of those particular Anniston films seems to lean one to think the intent is tht JustJen is a fauxmance. I find that very hard to believe, so when the obvious is excluded one must accept the less obvious as the answer. Still pondering….oh my.@Sparkling Twinkle:

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  31. joanne said on June 11th, 2012 at 12:33 pm

    Thanks for the new riddle.

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  32. Patty Anne said on June 11th, 2012 at 12:35 pm

    Wow, I hadn’t gotten that far. Seems there is still a three-way going on. I would love for it to mean that Justin and Jen are real, Jen has a child that is being “shipped” covertly to France to be with it’s mum and perhaps the midnight calls to the ex are to inform him of the arrival? It’s difficult to reach a conclusion when my heart is fighting my head..lol@joanne:

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  33. Patty Anne said on June 11th, 2012 at 12:36 pm

    Now that’s one answer I would love for it to be~! I’d hate to think Jennifer would be saddled for life with that nasty, dirty Pitt. He’s such a user of women.@Sparkling Twinkle:

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  34. Patty Anne said on June 11th, 2012 at 12:37 pm

    Okay, got it~! It’s purely about Jennifer Aniston Grooving~! Hover over the photo and that’s the phrase. So it’s all about Jennifer.@Sparkling Twinkle:

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  35. Sparkling Twinkle said on June 11th, 2012 at 12:39 pm

    @Patty Anne:
    brilliant x x x

    thanks for pointing that out my darling x x x x

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  36. Sparkling Twinkle said on June 11th, 2012 at 12:41 pm

    @Patty Anne:
    i too love joannes take on this – what a superb thought there joanne !! x

    being played by the players! it happens everyday !

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  37. Patty Anne said on June 11th, 2012 at 12:41 pm

    So would that then mean that Jen feels herself drawn into a “wretched hive of scum and villainy” because of her ex? But the clue Midnight Express Calls TO The Ex would indicate that she is the one making those calls.

    Now a list of ex’s that it might apply to:
    John Mayer
    Brad Pitt

    Remember the past clue, “An Ex Is An Ex For A Reason” ?, that makes me think the midnight express calls to the ex would indicate Brad.

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  38. Patty Anne said on June 11th, 2012 at 12:46 pm

    ” fix heated phone ” clue:

    Phone Sex Ended ?

    Heated Phone Arguments ?

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  39. Patty Anne said on June 11th, 2012 at 12:51 pm

    I think Jen is truly “grooving” and happy with her life, truly feeling emotions she’d held under for a long time. She’s feeling the rythm again , which makes me think it’s due to Justin.

    Time for a break, I’m already going in circles. Where is Sherlock Holmes when you need him? lol

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  40. Sparkling Twinkle said on June 11th, 2012 at 12:53 pm

    @Patty Anne:
    yes quite possibly, a heated phone conversation, someone wanting an escape from a fake relationship, but an ex being an ex for a reason has dragged up old hurt feelings leading to an argument.

    so this could be either joliepitt fake relationship but since all clues point to jen, I am more leaning to her and justin,soooo….

    why would a fake relationship (j/j) lead to an argument on the phone

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  41. Guest2 said on June 11th, 2012 at 1:06 pm

    @Patty Anne:
    In just go with it a fake romance became real didn’t it?

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  42. joanne said on June 11th, 2012 at 1:18 pm

    @Guest2:
    It did in Picture Perfect too.

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  43. Guest1 said on June 11th, 2012 at 1:45 pm

    I hope I am wrong about this. Ian wrote “Grooving In the Garden” not “Groovin’ in the Garden.” It looks like there was a song in the movie “It’s Complicated” called “Grooving in the Garden” that was apparently written by Daniel May. I have not been able to find the lyrics to the song. But the synopsis of the the movie – “It’s Complicated” – is”

    “Jane (Streep) is the mother of three grown kids, owns a thriving Santa Barbara bakery/restaurant and has—after a decade of divorce—an amicable relationship with her ex-husband, attorney Jake (Baldwin). But when Jane and Jake find themselves out of town for their son’s college graduation, things start to get complicated. An innocent meal together turns into the unimaginable—an affair. With Jake remarried to the much younger Agness (Lake Bell), Jane is now, of all things, the other woman. Caught in the middle of their renewed romance is Adam (Martin), an architect hired to remodel Jane’s kitchen. Healing from a divorce of his own, Adam starts to fall for Jane, but soon realizes he’s become part of a love triangle.Should Jane and Jake move on with their lives, or is love truly lovelier the second time around? It’s…complicated.”

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  44. Patty Anne said on June 11th, 2012 at 2:08 pm

    Yes, that makes much more sense now. It now comes around to Jen discovering that love is truly lovlier the second time around – with Justin. That would explain the midnight express calls to the ex – informing Brad of her decision to end the triangle and make a new life with her new love: Justin. @Guest1:

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  45. joanne said on June 11th, 2012 at 2:10 pm

    @Patty Anne:
    That sounds like a great ending.

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  46. Patty Anne said on June 11th, 2012 at 2:10 pm

    The triangle is busted and Brad is disgusted. There goes his vehicle to paparrazi fame and fortune because no one cares about him and Angie, it was only with Jennifer added to the faux triangle that it worked. And she has exited it – for good.

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  47. Patty Anne said on June 11th, 2012 at 2:20 pm

    How does the movie ‘It’s Complicated’ end? – Yahoo! Answersanswers.yahoo.com › … › Entertainment & Music › MoviesCached – Similar
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    2 answers – Dec 27, 2009
    Top answer: well since you already watched it.. they don’t end up together. she moves on.. and he wanted to get back with her.. but she didn’t.

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  48. Guest1 said on June 11th, 2012 at 2:23 pm

    @Patty Anne:
    Thank you! I forgot how it ended. Hopefully we are on the right track.

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  49. Patty Anne said on June 11th, 2012 at 2:25 pm

    http://www.filmequals.com/2009/12/26/its-complicated-movie-spoiler-recap/@Guest1:

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  50. Patty Anne said on June 11th, 2012 at 2:26 pm

    I hope so too, but after seeing photos of Jen and Justin landing in Paris, I’d say we are. They were very familiar, comfortable and sexually playful in some shots. In one, Jen is patting Justin’s butt….little minx!@Guest1:

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  51. Sparkling Twinkle said on June 11th, 2012 at 2:30 pm

    I have said this before – out of some friendships come a great love.

    Most people meet their partners through work, and many become lovers after being friends.

    would like

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  52. Sparkling Twinkle said on June 11th, 2012 at 2:30 pm

    oops …

    would like the triangle to end, and for them all to move on and find true happiness.

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  53. sinker said on June 11th, 2012 at 2:38 pm

    booty dress – if booty used in the sense of “spoils taken from an enemy in war” or a prize? she has worn two awesome white dresses lately – at AFI and at rock of ages premiere in london. and AJ has had some real clunkers lately. Overall, seems JA can do no wrong lately, and AJ can do very little right.

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  54. rushdog said on June 11th, 2012 at 2:43 pm

    @HisHighness:
    Thanks Ian! But I was going to take a break and you keep pulling me back in with the riddles. I just can’t stop myself!

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  55. payal said on June 11th, 2012 at 2:45 pm

    @sinker:
    honestly jolie must be raging this week and getting depressed as well, in other words manic because her and brad are falling apart in every sense and jen is shining even more brightly than thought possible, it is all about jen. i wonder what move BA are going to pull now as all anyone cares about are JJ in paris. i want to see more pics of jen is paris selfishly but i do want her to have her privacy lol.

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  56. joanne said on June 11th, 2012 at 2:49 pm

    @Sparkling Twinkle:
    That would be nice.

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  57. liv4 said on June 11th, 2012 at 2:59 pm

    Singing to the choir is asking someone to believe something they already believe.
    have you ever been bonded is a surety bond – insurance to protect you from any damage you may have caused or responsible for another’s failure.
    losing you to a crowd lyrics: Y
    ou used to read Macbeth on Tuesdays,
    You were oh so bright.
    Now you’re like the other girls,
    Can’t tell wrong from right.
    busted and disgusted – wasn’t that a show that caught cheaters

    Doesn’t sound encouraging.

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  58. liv4 said on June 11th, 2012 at 3:01 pm

    Living the wisdom of the Tao is actually the subtitle to the book.

    The only thing giving to the poor makes me thing of is being generous.

    That’s all I’ve got.

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  59. liv4 said on June 11th, 2012 at 3:04 pm

    I lied – one more thing. Midnight Express is the movie where a man escapes from prison. So who is calling the ex to escape from prison?

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  60. payal said on June 11th, 2012 at 3:05 pm

    @liv4:
    thats sounds like jen.

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  61. rushdog said on June 11th, 2012 at 3:13 pm

    Going to take a guess and then am out for a while. Midnight express calls to ex = Calls to BP. Midnight Express is a 1978 film about an American male arrested in Turkey for smuggling hashish. The hash would point to BP (re: QT comments). In the movie the girlfriend visits and is devastated at his condition.

    Upon a first look this doesn’t appear to be a big reveal or shocking riddle. JAgrooving = she’s in a settled routine and confortable. Her public hook-ups are friendships.

    Latest sexy on Jen…reaching out to the needy…change your thoughts, change your life…divorced couple reunite, have an affair and end it amicably…the life of the famous…pizza & cocktails…calls to/from BP…need to get away (from the calls)…aware the events seems all to much the same (as before)…February 2011 pretend to be wife to cover up a lie (beard)…ended (derailed again) like ‘05 w/threat of disclosure of affair…can’t move forward so fake fiance story…he’s (Ian) telling us what we already know (LOL)…existing job contract (w/JTx) just friends…

    but the last two clue phrases suggest something a little darker:

    losing you to the crowd = mixing in with the norm/just like the other girls/when did you put the mask on
    busted & disgusted = Fox reality show w/unthinkable behavior caught on video

    I can’t figure how the end fits w/the rest of the riddle unless it ties into the threat of disclosure (re: laptop).

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  62. liv4 said on June 11th, 2012 at 3:25 pm

    @rushdog:
    Maybe the dark ending is BP’s reaction to the ending of the calls or affair?

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  63. liv4 said on June 11th, 2012 at 3:33 pm

    Only other thing is the movie Picture Perfect where a romance was faked but they ended up with real feelings. So maybe since that is the last movie listed in the group that is the case here, although “have you ever been bonded” does sound like a contract.

    @RUSH: What do you man can’t move forward so fake fiance story? Is that BP?

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  64. liv4 said on June 11th, 2012 at 3:34 pm

    The overall tone of this makes me think JA is satisfied with her life, however we may interpret the above.

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  65. rushdog said on June 11th, 2012 at 3:51 pm

    @liv4:
    So much for me signing out.
    Urban dictionary has busted & disgusted as broken down. So maybe. I was thinking the needy could be bp.

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  66. rushdog said on June 11th, 2012 at 3:57 pm

    v@liv4:-

    Sorry i’m not at home. It’s the description of the movie. Her charactwe can’t movw forward in her job believed because she’s single. Things change when the fakw fiance comes along.

    I would think it relates to hw types needing rhe hook-ups for pr.

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  67. rushdog said on June 11th, 2012 at 4:01 pm

    @liv4:
    I agree. Arranged relarionships with friends. She.s finw with hee routine. Thw “bonded” does suggeat contractual.

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  68. liv4 said on June 11th, 2012 at 5:32 pm

    @rushdog:
    Good one.

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  69. Tetta said on June 11th, 2012 at 6:22 pm

    Why not take the easy way on this clue. Two of her films with fake relations end up happy, J&J fall in love for real. Jennifer is growing could be very easy. She´s growing because she´s pregnant. And as Ian makes his clues about what happens right now I think you should read the lyrics to this old song from 1967 ( sometimes it´s good to be old :) ) “Growin´ with The young Rascals. This is what J&J did yesterday on a sunday afternoon.

    http://www.elyrics.net/read/y/young-rascals-lyrics/groovin_-lyrics.html

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  70. payal said on June 11th, 2012 at 6:29 pm

    @Tetta:
    i wonder if ian can tell us if she is pregnant or not if he knows or has heard rumblings.

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  71. Tetta said on June 11th, 2012 at 6:43 pm

    @payal:

    There has been so many rumors from different places and Huvane hasn´t denied it. But the fact it isn´t denied could also be a game they play with us to make us believe their relation is for real. Ian probably knows if she is or if she´s not pregnant. It could also be that she is in the beginning of a pregnancy and journalists keep quiet as they know it could end in a miscarriage. In the end even journalists are human and don´t want to say something before Jennifer says she´s pregnant – if she is of cource.

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  72. Patty Anne said on June 11th, 2012 at 6:46 pm

    Amen to that ST. It would be wonderful for all of them to settle down to being commmitted couples with a real life and not being on a stage pretending to keep their fame and fortunes. I think after seeing the 60+ photos of Jen and Justin walking through Paris Sunday real love can’t be ruled out. They were clearly a couple giddy with love and happiness. Hopefully Brad and Angie can find that same feeling preferrably with one another since they have six children to be responsibile for now.@Sparkling Twinkle:

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  73. Patty Anne said on June 11th, 2012 at 6:50 pm

    http://www.zimbio.com/pictures/Eo8LbaKTxs0/Jennifer+Aniston+Justin+Theroux+Stroll+Through@payal:

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  74. payal said on June 11th, 2012 at 6:53 pm

    @rushdog:

    jen said in a interview a while back about tabloid BS that (and im paraphrasing) there are not nearly enough secret midnight calls (or meetings i think) to exes as they would have you believe. was she doing a double bluff?

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  75. Up the Coast said on June 11th, 2012 at 7:32 pm

    @Patty Anne:
    If these two aren’t really happy together, then they are very good actors :) I think Ian is saying that they started out as a temporary set-up, but the relationship has changed/blossomed into something real. BP is busted and disgusted because he thought he could trust Justin….haha, idk.

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  76. Tetta said on June 11th, 2012 at 7:36 pm

    Oven and shaker is a pizza restaurant in Portland, Oregon. I keep on with the easy way. We all know what a “bun in the owen” means. Can you call a pizza ” a bun in the owen ” ?

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  77. Patty Anne said on June 11th, 2012 at 8:16 pm

    I’ll bet you’re right there UTC. Since they all knew one another for a long time. That’s what happens when Bradley thinks.@Up the Coast:

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  78. siska said on June 11th, 2012 at 8:25 pm

    Thanks ian,Ok, im trying to do the riddle with my headache..he,,he
    I think think jen need partner to do her movie pr and stay away from the desperate jen image because of the brangiston saga,thats why she keep coming back to jm but when the movie wanderlust shoot,she struck friendship with jtx. They didnt mean to fallen in love because of the ex ( which is jm and hb),but when the reshoot of the movie,and the studio push for more pr for this movie,they became the pretend couple? But when jen dog norman passaway..the preted became real and leave exes in tears….Jm recent new album,which pining for jen,create some kinda trouble to justjen (maybe thats the phone call for the ex)..but an ex is an ex for the reason ( he still not changing,the way he blast swift) so jen finally decide to enjoy her life and took her groove back, by enjoying her life with jtx,and show all her ex that she truly over and find her love..
    Btw I am aware also that the recent sighting of justjen to promote their wanderlust dvd release and rock of ages movie.jen only out and about this much for her work…but you can see,they love each other..do this last? not sure..but they seem to enjoy it at the moment.
    Btw..i am 99% sure that the only ex that bother jusjen much is Jm…remember he spotted in La sunset tower recently,which the fav spot of jen….Bp really no matter for jen at all.

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  79. Up the Coast said on June 11th, 2012 at 8:33 pm

    @Tetta:
    No…it’s called a pie. I looked thru the menu, but nothing stands out to me except that it looks like a nice place. And they have early and late Happy Hours.

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  80. payal said on June 11th, 2012 at 8:35 pm

    siska, you know i adore u but your john mayer obsession angers me lol.

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  81. Harlow said on June 11th, 2012 at 8:37 pm

    @payal:
    Hi Payal, FWIW I have a friend who is in the business and through other close friends of hers in HW has confirmed that its real relationship. JT is apparently crazy about her. As for JM it was JA who forced him to do the breaking up and made it very hard on him. He had deep feelings for her. I realize you don’t know me but I see how big of fan you are and I figured you deserved to know.

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  82. payal said on June 11th, 2012 at 8:44 pm

    @Harlow:
    thanks, its just i cannot abide that scoundrel, i manage to keep it out of my head that him and jen ever dated so when she is put together with him again it makes my blood boil. i practically worship justin compared to him, although in all sincerity i am liking justin better than before although im not 100% yet.

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  83. Up the Coast said on June 11th, 2012 at 8:45 pm

    @Patty Anne:
    Yea…I’m not sure anything good happens whenever Bradlee thinks :lol: The last good idea he had was wearing that TRASH t-shirt ;)

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  84. Harlow said on June 11th, 2012 at 9:09 pm

    I undersatnd, I do. I asked my friend who is a writer and is friends with many folks who know JA. When she said this, the first person I thought of was you as I love gossip sites but when I come across fans like you I really think its nice for you to know as this whole triangle think is sheer BS. I don’t want to say more as I value my friend telling me.

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  85. payal said on June 11th, 2012 at 9:17 pm

    @Harlow:

    thank you.

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  86. whatever said on June 11th, 2012 at 9:23 pm

    Grooving in the Garden, is an event at the Botanical Gardens in Virginia.

    Same state that Justins Mother lives in.

    Is there a wedding being planned? A Garden wedding perhaps??

    Have you ever been bonded: Possibly bonding two lives, Jennifer and Justin??

    Ok….I’ve had a long day, headache to boot….can’t think right now..but this new clue leads me to believe that Jennifer and Justin are engaged and planning a wedding…

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  87. Guest2 said on June 11th, 2012 at 9:26 pm

    @siska:
    I hope Payal doesn’t get mad at me but I think that mayer as the ex makes more sense to me than brad (they’re equal scoundrels in my mind). I don’t really think there’s anything between bp and ja including friendship, not that they hate each other but I think they’ve both just moved on. jmo.

    Payal, I think mayer is a dirtbag and I don’t like him at all but it’s probaly easy to fall for a musician. I would think it’s very sexy and romantic to have someone sing love songs to you and Mayer does have a good voice. He must have some kind of charm because women do fall for him (or they did pre-jen/taylor and his own blabbermouth interview).

    Jen and justin do look loved up and almost like they’re sharing a secret. They’ve been to London and Paris, I wonder where they’ll go next. I hope they play it for all it’s worth and head to Greece and really get tongues wagging.

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  88. Guest2 said on June 11th, 2012 at 9:37 pm

    Just a random thought…in jen’s last two public appearances she’s worn white dresses which she almost never does. I wonder if there’s a message there. Probably not but maybe.

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  89. payal said on June 11th, 2012 at 9:41 pm

    @Guest2:

    ill never get mad at you! lol, but il leave talking about john mayer as i dont want to think about him before i go bed lol. i hope we get lots and lots of pictures of jen all around europe, id love it if they go greece, my friend is from there and she has gone back and it is beautiful this time of year. but before i want to see jj at the eiffel tower!

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  90. Siska said on June 12th, 2012 at 12:29 am

    I am sorry..my dear,
    It just when i follow Jen love life,,so that’s why I never think Bp is involve with Jen at all..and her recent bf before Jtx was Jm,,either we like it or not..we can not choose who we love,,( she openly admit in interview she love him and take him back once),, and I always open mind about people,,because we have good side and bad side..and as much a deuche Jm was..he is very brave on admit his mistake and praise or defend his gf ( including embarrassing them also..he..he)..@payal:
    Jen already admit..that she learn from all the relation,,and because she experience all she now realize what she want and what she didn’t want in relation.
    And Jen is the one who actually took the plunge on all her relation,,but she never brag about it,,that’s why I adore her,,

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  91. Siska said on June 12th, 2012 at 12:40 am

    @Guest2:He..he..I think payal dislike how Jm embarrassing/ hurt Jen, but Jen is a romantic but with level headed,,she will never get destroyed because of a man,,she is much stronger,,and she broke Jm heart,,but no one seem to realize.that,,I actually admire Jm to admit that..
    But I am happy to see how happy Jen was with Jtx..they seem in same length,,and he admit that with all the fame..it’s getting difficult,but he admit that he follow his heart,just like the Mulholland director comment about them,,that Jtx just follow his heart..not for fame or game,,I really believe they are real..even Ian had the article about Jtx emotional behaviour that can shake their relation..that mean..justjen is real

    I read somewhere that this holiday will be 10 days long,,so they might visit a lot of Europe,,I think this is their short break plus promo tour for their DVD wanderlust release before Jen started shoot her movies and Jtx start his projects..I am waiting for them to have some get together with clooney.

    I am a romantic and sucker for romance and romance drama,,he,,he that’s why I like the Jm ingredient to this mix..I love to see that Jen has so much admirer ,the heartbreaker Jen,,not the desperate needy Jen image that tabs and haters portrayed her to be.

    But in the end I want Jen to be with someone who love her unconditional and make her happy..

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  92. Siska said on June 12th, 2012 at 12:42 am

    @Guest2:He.he..she might just want to show that she isn’t pregnant,,because white dress will not hiding the pregnancy bump..she already said she will not married again..( except its a trick to throw us off?)

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  93. Siska said on June 12th, 2012 at 12:47 am

    Thank you for confirming my belief,Jen is a sweetheart,but just like her BFF Kristen Hann said,Jen is an accidental heartbreaker ..she never purpose on do it..but she is. And just like jake g saying,,that everyone fall in love with Jen..
    @Harlow:

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  94. Siska said on June 12th, 2012 at 2:43 am

    I am so happy to see all the lovely picture of this two…omg..they both so hot!, I think I’m turning like twihard fans for jusjen..he.,he..today I’m not felt 100 % after the major tummy ache..but their pictures made my day..
    Jtx look hot..I think Lainey mention that when a man with Jen they seem look more hotter..she make them cool..he..he..the Jen effect..btw anyone has inside info why Jen old bodyguard ,the bald one,not been seen recently….either he taking a summer holiday,hot new job or..mm mm”..my soap opera blood is tingle ..maybe either clash with Jtx or something to do with Jm?.,.( Payal don’t be angry..he..he) ..because he used to accompany JM when he used to date Jen..
    I get used with the bald bodyguard…he seem much cooler than the new one.

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  95. Mez said on June 12th, 2012 at 3:50 am

    @whatever:
    Didn’t TMZ say they were planning a wedding on one of the Greek Islands!!! This was quickly disputed and then taken down. Hmmmm makes me wander if there might be some truth in it.

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  96. Tetta said on June 12th, 2012 at 8:40 am

    @Mez:

    Wouldn´t it be nice ! Mama Mia how much fun they could have ! I keep on shchratching on the surface. This morning I read the lyrics to the music again. I found another page with lyrics to
    ” like a star “. Of cource the lyrics where the same but in this place some lines were highlighted and if you clicked on it there was an explanation what was meant. In the middle of the first part there are some words about diamonds. When I clicked on the line a citrus diamond was shown. I don´t know much of diamonds but at least I think the color of it reminds me about the one Jennifer wears in the photos from Paris. It´s a very small detail but perhaps it´s an engagement ring.

    http://rapgenius.com/Wiz-khalifa-like-a-star-lyrics

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  97. Siska said on June 12th, 2012 at 9:01 am

    I saw the ring,it seem she is keen on show it..m…m..very intrigue situation’..Paris is the city of love…@Tetta:

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  98. Tetta said on June 12th, 2012 at 9:11 am

    @Siska:

    First a romantic couple of days in Paris, then a wedding in Create, Greece. That would be like a fairytail ! :lol: Siska, you wake up the romantic person in me. I thought it was gone but it isn´t.

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  99. Guest said on June 12th, 2012 at 9:40 am

    @Siska:
    It might be an engagement ring, but she’s been wearing it for months then. There are photos of her with it at least as far back as the Wanderlust premiere. One of the photo agencies guessed that its a 4 or 5 carat diamond engagement ring. Maybe she’s just been wearing it on her right hand and keeping it secret all this time?

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  100. Siska said on June 12th, 2012 at 9:40 am

    He..he romance make my day….oh..something fun,,on YouTube there are funny game called mismatch ..tag Jennifer aniston puppy..it’s a game with fake celebrity .
    Imagine if they do married there..it gonna help Greek economy abit.,he..he..@Tetta:
    Tetta watch on YouTube Nina and Patrick offspring,from the tv series offspring..it’s complete my romance fantasy of jusjen..because they story sort of like justjen….I’m sucker for romance,,need a cold shower..he..he

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  101. Siska said on June 12th, 2012 at 9:43 am

    @Guest:Interesting…btw I read on tabs that Jen got a special ring from Jtx for her birthday.,so maybe either engagement ring or just birthday gift?..I got the vibe this two don’t want marriage…they are happy as it is..like Goldie Hawn and Kurt Russelll,style,,because he was 14 years with a woman without marriage in the card and Jen already saying she didnt think she will married again..

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  102. Tetta said on June 12th, 2012 at 10:01 am

    @Siska:

    It sounds funny ! I will do it later today. It´s 4 o´clock pm in Sweden and I need to do some errands before the shops close.

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  103. Siska said on June 12th, 2012 at 10:10 am

    @Tetta:Ok take care,,,it’s 12.05 am in Sydney..imagine if jusjen stop by in Sweden..I saw the YouTube vid of jusjen walking at lax on the way to Paris..and one of passerby reflect saying hello to Jen like an old friend..and I think I saw Jen smirk..he..he
    Wonder when Jen will stop by to Sydney again..

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  104. Siska said on June 12th, 2012 at 10:12 am

    I don’t know it’s strange or not,,but it seem Jen change her fav holiday spot since with Jtx..she never gone to Mexico/ cabo again..wonder why?

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  105. payal said on June 12th, 2012 at 10:47 am

    i want more pictures lol!

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  106. payal said on June 12th, 2012 at 11:39 am

    why is this post going really slowly?

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  107. Dream said on June 12th, 2012 at 12:07 pm

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D7vhtd0R8u0
    this guy has a french mistress lol

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  108. Patty Anne said on June 12th, 2012 at 12:31 pm

    Clue: Open Sesame

    Draw Bridge Open photo

    The Brangelina floodgates have been opened, it’s all coming to light now

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  109. Guest said on June 12th, 2012 at 1:16 pm

    @Siska:
    Well she didn’t say she didn’t think she would ever marry, she said she didn’t know if she would…big difference. One is saying it’s doubtful and the other is saying it’s uncertain. I’m not buying that the ring she’s wearing now is an engagement just yet though…she always wears rings and on different fingers!

    He did buy her a double finger ring from his friend who is a jeweler. The jeweler was interviewed about her designs and mentioned that Justin had bought one of her double rings for Jennifer. She wore it during Wanderlust promotion. It is like a bar across two fingers with a line of diamonds in the center. Maybe that’s what you read saying he got her a ring?

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  110. Guest2 said on June 12th, 2012 at 1:21 pm

    There’s another tweet “Salute” with no photo and one from the other day “The Muse” with a photo of a woman in a blue dress. Don’t know what they mean if anything but I like your take on “Open Sesame”. We shall see.@Patty Anne:

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  111. rushdog said on June 12th, 2012 at 1:22 pm

    @Patty Anne:
    I’m not liking the twitter connect to the puzzle. A while back Kate said Ian confirmed that tweets were part of the clues. Some were obviously connected. Lately…I can’t tell. There are tweets that are clearly sports related that appear to have nothing to do with the puzzle. I can’t keep track. I thought the same thing about the floodgates with the flood photos the other day. But Ian’s in Miami and these may just be pics he likes. Ahh…so frustrating.

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  112. Guest2 said on June 12th, 2012 at 1:22 pm

    Brangie has been remarkably quiet. I wonder what’s up with them. Not complaining, just curious.

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  113. Tetta said on June 12th, 2012 at 1:47 pm

    @Dream:

    This man has a lot to teach us about life, with or without a frensh mistress. In the middle of all bad things there is something good, something unique.

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  114. rushdog said on June 12th, 2012 at 1:52 pm

    @liv4:
    I was thinking about his riddle last night. I think Kate posted something to the effect that if Ian ‘had the goods’ on Jen’ he would put it out. He wouldn’t tip-toe around her and bash AJ/BP. Clearly paraphrasing here, but something like that. Jen’s riddles are pretty tame or lainey’s word “taupe.” She’s pleasant but not exciting or scandalous. Just grooving.

    IMO Ian posted this riddle in response to requests for a new one and JA/JTx had photos in France. That’s what I think the end of the riddle may be about. She considered a return to the midnight express ex (hash = bp and fits with the puzzle in spring ‘11) but that got derailed same as ‘05 (by AJ) and now her life is picture perfect (an arranged relationship w/a friend in which she’s comfortable). “Have you ever been bonded” suggests a job, a contract. But bonded can also mean friendship. So maybe it worked out that an arrangement turned into something more and justjen is happy? They appear that way so who knows…

    Yet she’s stepping in front of the camera with her relationships as a pr tool. This is how high profile couples play the game today. I don’t think she did this as much w/BP but appears to have done that with her relationships since. “Losing you to the crowd” – the norm, just like the other girls…caught on camera.

    Maybe that makes sense?

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  115. Tetta said on June 12th, 2012 at 1:57 pm

    @Patty Anne:

    It sounds interesting. How do you think Ian will let us know what it is about ? Will he tell us in a clue or will we be able to read about it in the papers ?

    I thought it was something about J&J. If they have any secret plans they will tell us and if we want to celebrate them with a salute.

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  116. Kate said on June 12th, 2012 at 1:58 pm

    @rushdog:
    Ian told us that a “shocking clue” was to come. I think Liv is right, this does not reflect well on Jennifer, and the last line could point to behavior no one would expect from her on a tape. I have not worked on this, just read through it, but the references to the relationships I would agree mean pretendind with a friend, keeping up a ruse to avoid an embassing situation, (JGWI) involved in a scam from the beginning (Derailed), and needed to dress the part for her job , image, fans, for success (Picture Perfect). One of the songs was released on : The Joke Is on You. Liv noted what is shocking. Ian seems to be talking about Jennifer, how she lives her life, rose to the top through her relationships after her divorce. Midnight express calls to the ex, that would appear to be Brad. Fix burning phone, quit using it until it cools down. That seems to support what was pointed out earlier about all 3 being in this massive business venture together, which I know Ian has said several times.Some agree, some do not. I don’t know if I believe Jen is involved with Brad in any other way than that, just a friend, and working it for the good of all. It is their job, but there seem to be some hints of that. I know what mean on the tweets, some are obvious, others are just sports, or with his followers. If it does not jump out and seem connected then it does not much matter , does it? lol

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  117. Guest19 said on June 12th, 2012 at 2:31 pm

    I might be the only one tired of riddles…lol. How long would this go on for?

    Anyways I am having a hard time believing that Just/Jen are a PR couple, but it’s hollywood. There just seems to be something so real about them and I think Justin is hot and cute. His recent quote to Extra was ” I go to bed everyday thinking I am the luckiest guy in the world” when asked about Jen. IMO I just think it’s hard for men to fake…lol

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  118. Guest2 said on June 12th, 2012 at 2:37 pm

    @Kate:
    If this is nothing but a PR relationship they’re both very good actors. I tend to think the relationship is both real and PR since they are playing this up but there seems to be genuine affection between them. So what’s the shocking thing in this clue, a dirty sex tape with JM? Is someone threatening to release it? Is that why she got with jtx in the first place or was it a cover for the midnight express as has been discussed here before? Here I thought Ian was suggesting that jen was happy (as in ja grooving) but apparently nothing is as it seems. I don’t feel like I know anything more than I did 6 months ago, it’s all just speculation and kind of leads nowhere. Ian’s only steered us in a right direction twice. Sorry, this is just becoming really frustrating.

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  119. Patty Anne said on June 12th, 2012 at 2:46 pm

    Yes, in English Salute’ is a greeting, a recognition for job well done. Perhaps this is Ian’s way of saying the trio played the game well, and the press set-up of JJ turned real. I honestly have to say those Paris photos looked very real to me. As to the Drawbridge photo in Ian’s tweet:
    http://www.thefreedictionary.com/open+sesameCached – Similar

    A simple, trusty means of attaining a goal. [From the magical formula Open Sesame used by Ali Baba in the Arabian Nights to open the door of the robbers' cave.] …

    Salute’ also means “well done”. @Guest2:

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  120. Tetta said on June 12th, 2012 at 3:04 pm

    @Patty Anne:

    Salute = Bingo ???

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  121. Tetta said on June 12th, 2012 at 3:15 pm

    @Tetta:

    The Salut is probably for Lebron. He did a good job the day before yesterday when Miami won a game and is in the final.

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  122. Guest2 said on June 12th, 2012 at 4:04 pm

    Ian just added to this clue. Does A-1 class act refer to jen? I think it does and I’ll go with that. No dirty or sordid info coming out about her.

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  123. joanne said on June 12th, 2012 at 4:05 pm

    If thats the case then JT and Aniston pretend much better than Jolie and Pitt.

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  124. Tetta said on June 12th, 2012 at 4:13 pm

    The definition from “Free Dictionary”
    class act
    n. Informal
    One of distinctive and superior quality: “Academy members … tend to favor films that will make Hollywood seem a class act instead of a hotbed of money-grubbing vulgarians” (Jay Carr).

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  125. cls1976 said on June 12th, 2012 at 4:30 pm

    I’m currently living in Cleveland (but boy, do I want out!), so I remembered that Ian had mentioned Red once before as it’s one of my favs. This was the post: http://ianundercover.com/2011/09/18/iuc-sunday-why-did-brad-back-down-gorge-with-fred-at-red-or-la-petite-maison/

    I know some have said before that his comments on travel give extra hints/tie-ins to the clues, so I’m not sure if this is one or not…but could the Brad/Jen photo from that post reveal the ex she is in contact with? Or is that the “giving to the poor” as I think Brad’s pretty poor in most aspects of life right now?

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  126. Tetta said on June 12th, 2012 at 4:59 pm

    @Tetta:

    Definition from Dictionary.com

    class act 
    noun Informal .
    something or someone regarded as outstanding or elegant in quality or performance.

    “outstanding or elegant in quality or performance ” Does Ian point to quality or performance”
    If Ian means an outstanding performance we are back to a fake relation. I don´t want to believ this.

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  127. payal said on June 12th, 2012 at 5:05 pm

    @cls1976:

    thats really interesting, thanks for reminding us about that post….it gets more and more curious

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  128. Tetta said on June 12th, 2012 at 5:30 pm

    @payal:

    Was the article there when you clicked at the link ? I got the answer “the article you are locking for isn´t there “.

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  129. payal said on June 12th, 2012 at 5:37 pm

    @Tetta:
    yep worked for me.

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  130. rushdog said on June 12th, 2012 at 6:42 pm

    @cls1976:
    yes thx for finding that post. I would say it’s additional info because it says “more” added on this riddle post and not a new post. But what does it mean lol?!

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  131. Dream said on June 12th, 2012 at 6:44 pm

    @Tetta:
    hes a nice guy. i know him and his wife.

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  132. Siska said on June 12th, 2012 at 7:25 pm

    No it’s a antique ring..but the mag has no picture..@Guest:

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  133. Siska said on June 12th, 2012 at 7:32 pm

    Yeah I’m with you..he seem genuinely love her..I like that extra interview..he is so relax talking about Jen..like they are normal couple…and the pictures shwn how in love they are..,this man not too proud on showing his love to his gf.@Guest19:

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  134. payal said on June 12th, 2012 at 7:36 pm

    there are new pics of jj on justjared and ff, feels so good to see her i had withdrawal symptoms for 24 hours lol (yes i understand i need help lol!) im sure siska understands and u all understand my love for her by now lol.

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  135. Siska said on June 12th, 2012 at 7:39 pm

    @Guest2:I don’t think it’s pr relation ..she bought house and adopt a puppy with him..it’s a big deal for Jen. But do they used it to promote their job..yes…it’s sadly nowadays,it’s sort of part of their job description.
    I don’t think Jm has dirty video of Jen..he isn’t that low..
    Btw do you saw the vanity fair 100 years paramouth?..billy bob was there also ,Paul Rudd and sascha Cohen ( which close with justjen) plus melanie g( wore similar dress at the Shelley m tribute,she sat next to Jen on that tribute)

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  136. Siska said on June 12th, 2012 at 7:43 pm

    @payal:They are so cute…we are the fans really happy with all the pictures,,too bad the hardcore haters ( incl.some of brangie fans) still spew their hate on them..(aybe they bore because there not new picture of their idol yet) they even mention their old trick of Jen try to upstage Aj engagement ring because Jen happen sporting a ring,,,they want her to not wore ring just because their idol has one,,he,,he it’s so funny.

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  137. Siska said on June 12th, 2012 at 7:45 pm

    @payal:Do you watch the extra interview with Jtx…he is so cute on talking about Jen..I don’t know hw to link it..plus watch the YouTube..type aniston Paris

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  138. Siska said on June 12th, 2012 at 7:51 pm

    Yeah. It’s making their fans flooding to Jen site and spew their hate because they so boring without their idol new stuff…I think they might just want to keep their fans curious and wanting so when they come out its will gather bigger attention..specially if they want to focus on their latest project.btw..they also have family..so they might spend time with them,,I think bigger star if they wanted they can keep it low profile..like Jen..she only out and about if she has to promote her job..most of time she lay low..@Guest2:

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  139. Siska said on June 12th, 2012 at 8:11 pm

    Sad news..David arquette file for divorce to cox..

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  140. Harlow said on June 12th, 2012 at 8:21 pm

    Hi Siska, I think like anyone in the biz she has an image to protect. She’s not a saint and their are obviously focus groups that sometimes lead actors in a certain direction and poof, your career that takes on a whole other narrative. FWIW the little I know is that their realtionship is very real as I told Payal. Now, who knows if theres something sordid out there on her. And the trouble with Ian is that nothing is really clear as he has to be in CYA mode for his own personal good. And I don’t blame him. Bottom line, we all have secrets, & I can’t imagine what its like having to hide stuff from tabloids, ambitious journalists and the paps on a day to day basis. Takes alot of money, time and caution. @Siska:

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  141. Kate said on June 12th, 2012 at 8:38 pm

    @rushdog:
    It points to the subjects in th

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  142. payal said on June 12th, 2012 at 8:42 pm

    kate!!! you’re here, now tell me everything you think!!! lol

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  143. rushdog said on June 12th, 2012 at 8:54 pm

    @Kate:
    “in th” in th?? Lol, ok Kate!

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  144. Kate said on June 12th, 2012 at 9:37 pm

    Jen’s booty dress- booty dress normally enhances the body+ enhancing Jen’s image

    giving to the poor=spiritual growth?

    living the wisdom of the tao =”When you change the way you look at things, the things you look at change.” . Letting go, moving forward.

    grooving in the garden- -Justin and Vince , names are on the schedule ,is this a coincidence. Patty referenced, ticket for day, but not to stay at night.or

    happy with ones life, or it is complicated.

    like a star wiz- song about a big star, bigger than those who come to negotiate with him etc.star power and what goes on behind the tinted windows of his limo- no idea how this applies at all. does not seem to apply to Jennifer, other than she has become a bigger star since the divorce. This song though makes this rapper sound like a bit of a azz though.arrogant, a stoner, and drunk, and very materialistic (this just appears completely negative to me)

    http://rapgenius.com/Wiz-khalifa-like-a-star-lyrics#note-454341

    Drive a comfy car, there is a huge difference in wiz and you, he has have to blow and you don’t. he is too busy to answer my calls, keep rolling the joints and make sure they are fat, designer clothers and diamonds, dresses dapper, a hero to fans so sits behind tinted windows, has weed crumbs on his clothes, blowing weed and never sober, ranked at the top in every city.

    …oven and shaker menu-A partnership between three of Portland’s most accomplished industry veterans.-guessing that is Jolie, Pitt, Aniston, I don;t see another reference to this anywhere, maybe someone else can find one. (this also seems to contradict)

    …midnight express calls to ex-starred Billy from Texas(Rush noted) hash charges points to Brad. his ex visited him (we have established Jennifer is the ex ?)- she gave him money to help him escape in film.- several of the other clues have suggested a possible escape for Brad. ref-Texas again. I dunno, possible I guess. Supporting a friend?

    …fix heated phone-stop using it until it cools off or things cools off-this makes sense to me, that Jen has been calling Brad, and it is for a purpose, setting up something, setting the stage, or helping him with a exit, but only as friend. Cooling it for while maybe? Is someone getting suspicious?

    …tapping into the emotional void-by Excel- Post Breakup- included on “The Jokes on You” LP hard to ignore the Jokes on You, but maybe that is just a side note, and he really means she is doing getting out and and and taking care of business. This group is reuniting, this year, btw.

    Verse 3-tapping into the emotional void

    [Verse 3:]I ran away from my fears I will not cry any tears You might see that I’m right That dream might be in sight Now we all need something To help us through thick and thin Now get up, now get out That’s what I’ve been doin’ (approach to living ones life and doing what they can to make it better in spite of the void)

    …Just go with it- Pretending to be part of a ruse, to help a friend and to cover for what could be an embarrassing situation. (could point to contractual that ended with a real relationship)

    …Derailed- teamed up to be part of the scam, for profit, from the beginning. Planned. (this is negative , I don’t see how this fits if it is not worked in with the relationships, it is right in the middle)

    …Picture Perfect-to dress the part, to push a career in the right direction , to look Picture Perfect. Started with a Photograph. (started out contractual, but has become picture perfect?)

    …singing to the choir-saying what is already said to the people you are saying it to. The PR plan is reinforcing the image that the fans already have. Picture Perfect.

    …have you ever been bonded-A surety bond is a promise to be responsible for the debt, default, or failure of another. In most instances, bonds are required by federal, state, and local governments to protect the taxpayer dollars that are paying for the project. Surety bonds can also act as an element of prequalification. By being bonded, a company is saying that they have undergone the examination by a surety and has been qualified to do the project. It is designed to prevent any loss on the part of the obligee, and the prequalification process has assessed the financial strength of the principal as well as their expertise. The surety bond company is putting its assets and financial strength behind the contractor. Because of the rigorous prequalification, there is little expectation of loss in the surety bond relationship-wiki- contractual relationship started with Justin and how it will affect her image-prescreened-planned. Taking a risk.

    …losing you to the crowd-by Alex Wolff- this song is about a girl that has changed. – Since Ian told Amayrillis to please stay he had a shocking clue , and that was in response to her saying Jen was not a saint and does drugs etc, I am inclined to believe this riddle has to be something he could not just write up and say, “a source has told me that Jen and Justin are happy and she is now content with her life”. Possibly he would go to the trouble to make a riddle for us to say that, but I can not imagine for what reason. It is work for him and work for us, and frustrating. I believe he only uses the riddles for things he feels have to be in a blind. jmo

    Verse 1-
    You used to read Macbeth on Tuesdays,
    You were oh so bright.
    Now you’re like the other girls,
    Can’t tell wrong from right. (that seems clear, but in what regards, are we just talking about Chelsea behavior vs Rachel? If so, not shocking really)

    …busted and disgusted!!!!-Busted and Disgusted is an original series bringing viewers clips of the most disgusting and outrageous behavior caught on camera. The show premiered on April 1, 2009.= could refer to behavior in general not necessarily on tape. (no way to make this a + , is there?)

    I don’t think he is using the 3 movie titles to point to 3 relationships being fake because Derailed does not match up with any of them.(but maybe?) We could align JGWI with Vince and PP with Justin, and that does not necessarily mean fake, but rather started out contractual, and for the reason she needed them to , but Derailed does not seem to work with Mayer, does it? Unless it was all fake as well. Ian could be using the titles in a general way to say this was the PR plan for her , in general, her career, and this why. The Groovin in the Garden has a ad for Justin and a Vince on their calender, is that a coincidence?

    On the Open Sesame , as noted above= simple trusty means if attaining a goal- bearded relationships

    Salute= well done- she has had a good year.

    What is he saying there, that the PR plan worked out?

    Fred at Red, so that is the one that alluded to Brad and Jen earlier.- that was about Brad doing a about face on his Parade Interview. That seems to support something in the works, helping him escape his trapped life, is he giving him financial backing maybe?

    From the More-

    Sophisticated and smoothest- the PR blitz that has been orchestrated. Amazing and extremely knowledgeable food guru- well it is a stretch- Huvane, Fred, just pointing us back to the other post with the photo of Brad and Jen. I don’t know. A-1 class act, that is positive , that seems to support Jen and Justin as a class act, doesn’t it? There are too many contradictions in this for me .

    More: Last night I had the pleasure of attending a cruise put on by Kettle One Vodka, one of the most sophisticated and smoothest tasting vodkas on the planet. Thanks to the amazing and extremely knowledgeable food guru Fred at Red (Red Steakhouse) for inviting me on board. Here’s a pic of Fred and his younger brother Dave on Kettle One cruise last night. The Cabrera bros will make a lot of noise in Miami culinary circles the next few years and could end up being the most valuable export from Cleveland to hit South Beach since Lebron hit south beach.

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  145. payal said on June 12th, 2012 at 9:47 pm

    thank you kate!

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  146. Kate said on June 12th, 2012 at 9:48 pm

    I listed parts of everyone’s research so I hope you don’t mind. Added what I could find, and that is about all I came up with.

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  147. Kate said on June 12th, 2012 at 9:53 pm

    @payal:
    This is really up to everyone’s own interpretation, unless Ian would like to guide a bit. :) (

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  148. payal said on June 12th, 2012 at 9:57 pm

    @Kate:
    this is brill, much better than anything i can come up with lol. about the bonus clue this part sticks out the most….the cabrera bros will make alot of noise in the next few years….. with BJ is it headed to that place??

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  149. Kate said on June 12th, 2012 at 10:01 pm

    @Guest2:
    Yes it is. I am thinking this is about Jen helping Brad get out of his prison, but I could be wrong of course, the shocking is something her fans would not expect of her, dunno, just a guess, I don’t think a tape. Maybe there is proof that the three of them have orchestrated this is a more determined way than previously thought. As for how long will these riddles go on, my guess would be ,IF he follows the same pattern he did before, until his project is released. Before Ian said he was doing a film for TV Guide, and then later suggested possibly an E -Book. If he is still doing one of those, then he will most likely continue with these until he gets to final stages of those projects. That is what we saw before. I would guess the fall. However, that is assuming he has a project he is going to publish, if he does not, then forever or for as long as people work them. Ted C has been doing his blinds for a decade or more. Maybe Ian could answer that question. :)

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  150. payal said on June 12th, 2012 at 10:08 pm

    kate do you think jen is pregnant?

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  151. iwasanon said on June 12th, 2012 at 10:09 pm

    A comprehensive summary of what went wrong with WWZ from THR. It’s brutal

    http://www.femalefirst.co.uk/board/viewtopic.php?f=40&t=315570&sid=32708d4dde31e2b3c70a9b08bdb96e29

    or the original at
    http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/brad-pitt-world-war-z-production-nightmare-336422

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  152. Kate said on June 12th, 2012 at 10:13 pm

    @payal:

    I didn’t think about that, but you make a good observation. It is hard for me to honestly imagine Brad and Jennifer more than anything but friends, and Ian has never suggested , not even hinted that they are anything besides friends, at all, ever. Even last year during all the baby talk, he never suggested they were getting back together. It was still just a relationship of friendship. The last time I can remember Ian breaking anything shocking in English, that we did not have to figure out, was the Sandra Bullock story, and he got his butt kicked for that. Possibly that is why he does not do it anymore. I don’t know. I like the puzzles, but it would be nice to have him unravel them at some point, for two reasons. I now everyone is very very frustrated, and two, it keeps the unfair speculation away from scandals that do not exist. We have gone across the line too many times with Brange because we did not know where the line was, and that is not really cool to do to anyone, not even them, jmho. :) but it is very easy to get caught up in, raising my hand.

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  153. Kate said on June 12th, 2012 at 10:15 pm

    @payal:
    No, why do you?

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  154. payal said on June 12th, 2012 at 10:21 pm

    @Kate:
    well elephant on here has mentioned hearing jen is preggers and so has krystn burtt from red carpet closet and she looks trustworthy plus jj look very very happy……..this is all just my hope though lol

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  155. Kate said on June 12th, 2012 at 10:44 pm

    @payal:
    Oh I see, well maybe, I guess time will tell :)

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  156. Siska said on June 12th, 2012 at 11:19 pm

    Thank you..we never knew what its true,,and the live of famous people not always like they project it,,but as far as I notice Jen..basic on people who knew her or had interaction with her ,and her intimate interview..I don’t think she is the type of person who did dirty stuff ,I think she is sort of borderline vanilla,with good heart..she has her weakness,because she isn’t perfect,and she is aware of the consequence of became famous,she played the game but on her real life..I think she is just like us..who need friends and love ..@Harlow:

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  157. Siska said on June 12th, 2012 at 11:32 pm

    Btw..there are couple of source who saw them in airport and Paris witness how much they hugging and kissing each other,,I think this is the most open Jen showing affection in public with her men,..and the pap didn’t capture it..so look like this is real..they usually make a deal with pap to allow them to take good picture in certain place,but to leave them alone after..

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  158. graba said on June 13th, 2012 at 12:40 am

    I’m new to this site am not sure how this works… Some random thoughts for the group. justjen flew out to london (any tie to beatles riddle) for rock of ages premiere. She has uber baggy pants and is wearing same clothes. Distraction from something? She has a ring on her right hand that i saw in the london photo. Greeks wear wedding bands on the right hand -correct? Do they do this with engagement to? Is she distracting attention from the ring? Are they flying in and out for a wedding? Are brad and angie in on all of this and there engagement was to distract and help justjen? Recent brange posts talk about them spending 3000 on a dinner with friends. When I look at the leaked photos they are not the same. Brad has long hair in one and short in another. They are also in different seats in each photo. Anyways this all seems odd to me. I’m not sure if it ties in to the riddle. Just random observations of the recent news.

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  159. Kate said on June 13th, 2012 at 1:11 am

    @cls1976:
    I am so impressed you remembered that!

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  160. Siska said on June 13th, 2012 at 4:37 am

    On tabs saying about how russel brand on MTV try to flirt on Jen,but she wasn’t interested and found him a bit creepy..
    Btw I think I read somewhere that vv starred on the movie called the watch,which write by Jtx

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  161. Guest2 said on June 13th, 2012 at 7:37 am

    @Siska:
    Supposedly there was a tweet by jen’s hairdresser, Chris MacMillan, that he was on his way to Paris but the flight was delayed by 3 hours. Don’t know if it’s true.

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  162. Guest2 said on June 13th, 2012 at 7:55 am

    @Kate:
    Do you think the naked pic of jen is a hint as to what’s busted and disgusted or does Ian just like looking at a naked pic of her, lol? The reference to vodka in the clue update makes me think maybe she shares a vice with chelsea who is not my idea of a desirable friend but I don’t know her and maybe she has redeeming qualities. But there also appears to be a link to brad in some way. I don’t see how she could be helping him get out of his situation since it seems to me he’s where he chooses to be. I really don’t see them breaking up anytime soon but that’s jmo.

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  163. siska said on June 13th, 2012 at 8:52 am

    If join jen,its mean the holiday might not really pure holiday..mmm..there something brewing? Or just simple pr work??? Do hear the interview that jtx did at Extra? He said he is the luckiest man to wake up with jen..awww…so cute
    Btw..the naked picture of jen mightbe mean jen sexual desire being woke up by jm and now continue on to jtx, and make bp as an ex still an ex,,,he,,he..there are rumour that he isnt that impressive in bed.he..he?

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  164. siska said on June 13th, 2012 at 8:53 am

    My last comment for guest2..

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  165. Guest2 said on June 13th, 2012 at 9:34 am

    @siska:
    She is in France – maybe she’s there to be a bridesmaid at brad and angie’s wedding and the hairdresser is coming over to do her hair. Jk, of course. Is there a premiere of ROA in Paris coming up? I haven’t followed the movie much.

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  166. Guest2 said on June 13th, 2012 at 9:36 am

    @Guest2:
    Or maybe she’s getting married at miraval and brad will be the best man and angie will be her maid of honor. Maybe they’re all the best of friends in real life and having a double wedding and splitting the cost. Who knows what’s really going on, not me for sure.

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  167. payal said on June 13th, 2012 at 9:41 am

    @Guest2:
    sadly i would enjoy seeing that lol

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  168. Guest2 said on June 13th, 2012 at 10:10 am

    @payal:
    It would be funny and the joke would be on us :)

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  169. liz said on June 13th, 2012 at 10:38 am

    It’s KETEL One vodka. Christ. Not that I’d expect accuracy from Ian, but come on.

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  170. Tetta said on June 13th, 2012 at 10:46 am

    @Guest2:

    A naked person could be ” the real true person ” without anything to hide behind.

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  171. Tetta said on June 13th, 2012 at 10:48 am

    @liz:

    I wonder what Ian thinks about ABSOLUTE VODKA ? :lol:
    (I like it ! )

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  172. joanne said on June 13th, 2012 at 12:19 pm

    @Guest2:
    That would be well played and funny.

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  173. Kate said on June 13th, 2012 at 12:19 pm

    @Guest2:
    I hadn’t thought of that, maybe. She is wearing pants though, and there are many other photos or Jen that are more erotic , but she does look beautiful and sexy there . Grooving , pleased with ones self, that us one meaning, settled into a pattern, that is another , enjoying the music , another. He has before chosen the photos to support the titles. This riddle seems to be more about Jen, who she is, behind the star , and how she got there. I listed all possibilities from all the guesses posted that I remembered. The rapper sing suggest booze and drugs, which would not be shocking really. Jen and Brad did plenty of coke and weed when they were married . Chelsea certainly partakes, as many stars do. I think Ian though would be totally shocked at ant really sexual behavior from Jen that is not vanilla. He has said a few times that Jen was not nasty enough for Brad. Paraphrased.

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  174. payal said on June 13th, 2012 at 12:28 pm

    @Kate:
    coke!?!?

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  175. Kate said on June 13th, 2012 at 12:30 pm

    @liz:
    It is spelled Kettle.One in reference to events, such as the cruise , the recent GLAAD awards, etc. I suspect Ian did that for a reason . Good eye, thanks. There are several events connected to Jen sponsored by KETTLE ONE.

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  176. Guest2 said on June 13th, 2012 at 12:33 pm

    @Tetta:
    I like Stolichnaya myself. Gawd, did I spell it wrong??

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  177. Guest2 said on June 13th, 2012 at 12:37 pm

    @Kate:
    That’s probably what he was bored with and now he has his perfect partner in nasty sex so why leave? Thanks for clarifying, it makes sense. I’ll have to google kettle one.

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  178. Guest2 said on June 13th, 2012 at 12:40 pm

    @payal:
    I think she might have indulged back in the days of Friends. Matthew Perry went to rehab for drug addiction, she was friends with him and both she and courtney were skinny in those days. Jen looks pretty healthy these days and I don’t think she would look like that if she were a heavy coke user. She seems to be very much into living a healthy life style with yoga and exercise.

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  179. payal said on June 13th, 2012 at 12:56 pm

    @Guest2:
    i refuse to believe it, not jen uh uh sorry no, its out of my head, im not ready deal with jen doing that.

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  180. Up the Coast said on June 13th, 2012 at 1:04 pm

    Greek people, many being Orthodox Christians, also wear the wedding rings on the right hand in keeping with Greek tradition. A traditional reason to wear the wedding ring on the right hand stems from Roman custom. The Latin word for left is “sinister”, which in addition to this sense also has the same senses as the English word. The Latin word for right is “dexter”, a word that evolved into “dexterity”. Hence, the left hand had a negative connotation and the right a good one.”
    http://greekweddingsandtraditions.com/2008/01/27/your-wedding-ringleft-or-right-hand/

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  181. Kate said on June 13th, 2012 at 1:16 pm

    @payal:
    She definitely did, but why does that upset toy, it is equal to having a martini in her business?

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  182. Kate said on June 13th, 2012 at 1:20 pm

    @Guest2:
    Jen uses a kettle ball to exercise with, both she and Brad are noted for using the kettlebell, I don’t think the GLAAD is relevant, many are connected to them. The photo on the last Red Fred pist was if Brad and Jen, so for whatever reason Ian is pointing us in that direction,.jmo.

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  183. Kate said on June 13th, 2012 at 1:23 pm

    @Guest2:
    I don’t know, if she is trying to get pregnant yes I can see her forsaking her vices, but Chelsea partakes. If she isn’t then I doubt she has given it up completely, recreational user, it I don’t find that shocking in any way .

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  184. Tetta said on June 13th, 2012 at 1:24 pm

    @Guest2:

    Perhaps one needs a couples of Stolichnaya shots just to be able order it in a bar :lol:
    It sounds like someone who has a terrible cold !

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  185. Kate said on June 13th, 2012 at 1:26 pm

    @Guest2:
    Ha, Ian has said before , the Joke has been on us, for a long time , the question is, to what extent? And who is involved?

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  186. Guest2 said on June 13th, 2012 at 1:30 pm

    @Tetta:
    Absolut -ely!

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  187. Guest2 said on June 13th, 2012 at 1:31 pm

    @Up the Coast:
    Hey, where ya been?

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  188. Up the Coast said on June 13th, 2012 at 1:54 pm

    @Guest2:
    This is why I drink gin… :)

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  189. Up the Coast said on June 13th, 2012 at 2:02 pm

    @Guest2:
    Hi! I haven’t had anything to contribute…I’m not good at these riddles, but I like to read everyone else’s guesses. I’m loving the pics of Jen/Justin in Paris :) they really/truly look like they’re having a great time with each other.

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  190. Kate said on June 13th, 2012 at 2:03 pm

    Like a star wiz could mean just A list Star, someone considered a hero to all their fans, wiz is thought of that way in his circle. How else would that be interpreted?

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  191. iwasanon said on June 13th, 2012 at 2:15 pm

    @payal:
    Just curious, do you believe she’s smoked pot or is it just the coke you have a problem with?

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  192. payal said on June 13th, 2012 at 2:21 pm

    @iwasanon:
    i know shes smoked pot as she has admitted it, but its the other drugs, i find the taking of drugs detestable and to think she took it casually and happily has me sitting here subdued.

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  193. iwasanon said on June 13th, 2012 at 2:22 pm

    @payal:
    Payal, this gave me a chuckle. The way you feel when JA &JM are mentioned in the same sentence is sort of how I feel when JA & BP are mentioned in the same sentence, LOL

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  194. iwasanon said on June 13th, 2012 at 2:25 pm

    @payal:
    So you are ok with people smoking pot but not doing coke? Why do you differentiate these? Is alcohol ok?

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  195. Guest2 said on June 13th, 2012 at 2:46 pm

    @Up the Coast:
    They really do look like they’re having a good time but a teeny, tiny part of wonders whats up with all the pda. They look like they have a secret and it’s cracking them up.

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  196. Guest2 said on June 13th, 2012 at 2:47 pm

    @Guest2:
    part of ME.

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  197. Tetta said on June 13th, 2012 at 3:50 pm

    @Guest2:

    They seem super happy and that is unusual today . We are more used to pictures of a depressed Brad or Angelina. Did you read what Ted C answered a question las week ? Someone asked him if he thought they were a real couple. TC thought they are real but it´s time for them to show some public PDA if he would continue to believe they are a couple for real. They took his advice seriously and now they do what they can to show TC how much in love they are. I hope they have other reasons to be happy !

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  198. Tetta said on June 13th, 2012 at 3:55 pm

    Have anyone analyzed Ian´s latest tweet ? Spyder. Is it Angelina who sits in a car ? Or does Ian tell us he is sitting in a car in Paris and spy on Jennifer ?

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  199. WTF said on June 13th, 2012 at 3:58 pm

    @payal:
    Why do you think she had her nose done? Deviated Septum? RIGHT………

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  200. Up the Coast said on June 13th, 2012 at 4:03 pm

    @Guest2:
    I think they’re giggling at the french paps…. they sound cool, yelling out at them :lol:

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  201. Up the Coast said on June 13th, 2012 at 4:32 pm

    Awww…someone’s having a bad day ;)

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  202. Kate said on June 13th, 2012 at 4:53 pm

    @payal:
    :) Payal you are so sweet . Jen was never the image that has been sold on friends, not ever. She got stuck in that mold, she is closer to who she really is now . It is just part of the lifestyle they all live. When she was on Friends, drugs were oozing off that set. That does not change her being a compassionate sweet person. It has never been a secret . She may not being doing it now, she is older, maybe not as interested in all that. Just S Angelina though can be judged by her friended, MM, hanging with Drop, and the drugs that flow, the same goes for Jen. Chelsea is very open about her vices, look at who Jennifer surrounds herself with now, not before. Ian is saying the girl has changed, has she? or just decided to live her life and quit worrying about Rachel? It does not change who she is at her core.

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  203. Kate said on June 13th, 2012 at 4:58 pm

    Sorry, hanging with Drop.

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  204. Kate said on June 13th, 2012 at 4:59 pm

    Sorry, hanging with J. depp

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  205. WTF said on June 13th, 2012 at 5:12 pm

    @Tetta:
    Spyder is a type of Porsche car

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  206. Tetta said on June 13th, 2012 at 5:22 pm

    @WTF:

    Thank You for the information.

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  207. WTF said on June 13th, 2012 at 5:35 pm

    @Tetta:
    np :D i’m not a total biotch ya know

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  208. joanne said on June 13th, 2012 at 5:38 pm

    @payal:
    Coke isn’t a big deal in Hollyweird, they can afford it and don’t need to drive. I wouldn’t doubt everyone in Hollyweird tried it (maybe a few didn’t?) does she look like a cokehead? no. I tried it once and thought it was stupid (peer pressure ( :( ) She was getting to skinny while with Pitt, he may be a bad influence.
    Usually when a coker needs a new nose due to excessive use they use the cartilidge in the ears and her ears are dainty so her surgery was probably due to a deviated septum.
    Lots of enticements in Tinseltown.

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  209. Kate said on June 13th, 2012 at 5:43 pm

    @Tetta:
    There is also a rapper that invested and became the owner of the American Basketball Association, later joined the Continental Basketball Association, not sure why that would matter. The ABA was founded in 1967, the CBA has been on hiatus since 2009. I am just not sports savvy enough to understand if that would connect. Also there is a video, Spyder vs. Brad Bad. No idea.

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  210. Kate said on June 13th, 2012 at 5:47 pm

    @joanne:
    Agree, there was a period where you could see the bones in both her and CC, and her little butt was the size of a 10 year old. She was tiny tiny. If you flip through the seasons it is easy to see. She looked much better by 04 .

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  211. Kate said on June 13th, 2012 at 5:48 pm

    @WTF:
    lol

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  212. Guest2 said on June 13th, 2012 at 6:01 pm

    @Kate:
    Lol, I wonder who drop was.

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  213. Guest2 said on June 13th, 2012 at 6:03 pm

    @Guest2:
    wondered

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  214. Guest2 said on June 13th, 2012 at 6:05 pm

    @joanne:
    Yes, and I think she had it tweaked too. It looks much better now.

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  215. joanne said on June 13th, 2012 at 6:11 pm

    @Guest2:
    If your going to do it you might as well go all the way. I dated someone who waited until their thirties to get their sdeviated septum done, he said it didn’t affect him that much when he was younger.

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  216. Togi said on June 13th, 2012 at 6:25 pm

    I was thinking more along the lines of “Spied Her” … as in … SAW HER. lol@WTF:

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  217. payal said on June 13th, 2012 at 6:34 pm

    the guy in the sypder tweet looks similar to BBT imo.

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  218. Kate said on June 13th, 2012 at 6:37 pm

    Well one more try, with another perspective, assuming this is not the shocking post-

    Jen’s Booty Dress- White -wedding dress (recent white dress)

    Giving to the poor-spiritual growth- has become more at peace

    living in the wisdom of tao-when you change the way you look at things, the things you look at change, letting go of the past,moving forward

    grooving in the garden- wedding venue, maybe not actual but reference to Justin , Ashland Va nearby, happy with her life

    like a star wiz?????

    oven and shaker menu-????

    midnight express calls to ex-?????

    fix heated phone-quit using it for awhile, let it cool off

    tapping into the emotional void-”I ran away from my fears, I will not cry tears, You might see that I am right, that dream might be in sight, we all need something to help us through thick and thin, now get up, get out , thats what Ive been doing. (living her life, sees her dream in sight?) ????

    Just go with it-they have been friends for a long time, started off just helping each other out, but fell in love

    Derailed-???????

    Picture Perfect- Jennifer and Justin started out dressing the part for the job, but ended up being Picture Perfect in real life.

    singing to the choir- everyone already believes her life is Picture Perfect

    have you ever been bonded- pre-nup?

    losing you to the crowd- Now you’re like the other girls, can’t tell wrong from right?

    busted and disgusted!!!! -show about disgusting and outrageous behavior ? or ??? I don’t know. There is a busted & disgusted & broken down, but it references all three together. If Ian is using that, he is not applying that to Jennifer, is he?

    The Like a Star Wiz, the busted and disgusted, both seem to suggest something dark, maybe they are directed at Brad. Derailed. also. dark Is he saying they are getting married and this had derailed Brad, she has walked away from him as friend because of what is on the laptop, busted and disgusted, the midnight calls to the ex seem to suggest an urgency , on her part, could be his part though. Ian did say she was the ex. Is he in a panic? Have you ever been bonded? Any kind of revelations on the laptop if linked to Jennifer could harm her reputation as well. Is she connected in anyway. Ian did connect her in the 1464 puzzle.oven and shaker, could that mean, shake and bake, he has used that before?

    Open sesame-trusty means to to attain a goal, how would that then apply, and then salute-well done.then he did point back to the old Fred / Red puzzle.

    I asked Ian to eliminate some thoughts , hopefully he will do that to help us narrow this down. That is my support for today Ian. lol :) brain dead now, and tired with a migraine.

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  219. Tetta said on June 13th, 2012 at 6:48 pm

    @Kate:

    This positive version of the clue is much more fun than the negative one. Even if there are some bad stuff behind the scene, it sounds good. I guess you made many of us happy with this interpretation :)

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  220. payal said on June 13th, 2012 at 6:57 pm

    can we talk about something else? how ridiculous do jolies lips look in that psa

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  221. Up the Coast said on June 13th, 2012 at 7:11 pm

    @payal:
    You can tell she can’t even feel that top lip anymore…..and how sad is it that they had to soften the focus? :shock: Now this….. http://blindgossip.com/?p=44624 What a perv :(

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  222. Tetta said on June 13th, 2012 at 7:15 pm

    @payal:
    We can make it much more easier. Angelina looks ridiculous most of the time. I write in this way because I don´t know what PSA means here. If a man has a too high PSA level after a blood test he can be serious ill, but I guess you mean something else. Is PSA the Porche in the tweet picture ?

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  223. payal said on June 13th, 2012 at 7:16 pm

    @Tetta:
    public service announcement

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  224. Up the Coast said on June 13th, 2012 at 7:17 pm

    @Tetta:
    It means: Public Service Ads/Announcements.

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  225. Tetta said on June 13th, 2012 at 7:17 pm

    @payal:

    Thank You for the information :lol:

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  226. Tetta said on June 13th, 2012 at 7:23 pm

    @Up the Coast:

    That was funny, at least in one way. No one had any doubts. Everyone answered AJ. But do we believe the kids have friends ? It sounds odd.

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  227. Up the Coast said on June 13th, 2012 at 7:27 pm

    @Tetta:
    That does sound odd……maybe it’s another fax from Ange, trying to make them sound normal, with friends? :lol:

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  228. joanne said on June 13th, 2012 at 7:27 pm

    @Up the Coast:
    Jolie looking sexy naked in a pool? Thats doubtful and scary. 8O

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  229. siska said on June 13th, 2012 at 7:35 pm

    Welcome back!,,,he..he..you are funny..but I think the real reason is jen nose had unique shape that people teased and when your marriage broken because your hubby fallen to the most beautiful woman ,your confidence will slight down,so she just did the operation to boost her confidence and fix her unsleepy pattern.@WTF:
    I never heard any gossip or blind about jen doing coke,,she is brave enough to admit to dope..and she did that mostly when she was with Bp…
    Jtx had hardcore drunk habit,but he drop it off, and he still need control to not relapse ,so there are no way,they will be a couple if jen dabble with it….alcohol..yes..jen is well known for her vodka and red wine..

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  230. siska said on June 13th, 2012 at 7:43 pm

    Guest2: ha.,ha..imagine that,everyone will get the shock,after all this years we talk and even pick side and then its all just bs…

    But I think its impossible,,they might not have the feud,but still there are some acknowledged that they no bff,just business friendly…because just the way brad grey twice snub Aj from the paramount 100 th years photoshoot and from his second wedding..plus remember Haiti telethon?..which Bp and Ja attended but not Aj?..

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  231. WTF said on June 13th, 2012 at 7:44 pm

    @joanne:
    everyone knows the jolie-pitt kids dont’ have friends…..

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  232. joanne said on June 13th, 2012 at 7:47 pm

    @WTF:
    We know Maddox has one, Jolie bought one for him, she said so herself.

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  233. Up the Coast said on June 13th, 2012 at 7:50 pm

    @joanne:
    The pool would have to be really deep!

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  234. siska said on June 13th, 2012 at 7:52 pm

    She has the big boobs..and young boys as long its a woman,naked…they will love to pervey,,.even the older man,,man always man,,

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  235. joanne said on June 13th, 2012 at 7:54 pm

    @joanne:
    I should have said adopted a playmate for Maddox. :twisted: :lol:

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  236. Up the Coast said on June 13th, 2012 at 7:55 pm

    @joanne:
    You had it right the first time.

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  237. siska said on June 13th, 2012 at 7:56 pm

    @Tetta: I think two reason,holiday and pr for wanderlust dvd plus roa movie.

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  238. siska said on June 13th, 2012 at 8:07 pm

    There are new interview of jtx from jtx org.com,and he mention how horny he is when he is tennnager,,i bet,,one of the reason jen is happy..is his power in the sack,,he,,he..i think this two has fairy chemistry.
    Holiday make you more relax and find time to do it more,,he,,he,,thats why both of them cant stop smile from ear to ear,plus jtx has great sense of humour,,he crack jen often

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  239. siska said on June 13th, 2012 at 8:11 pm

    Justjen got pap in eiffel tower..remember Tc propose to KH there?..he..he…
    Jen travel very light,i think jtx has more wardrobe.? He..he..

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  240. Kate said on June 13th, 2012 at 8:13 pm

    @Tetta:
    It makes sense that way too, so it is possible that there is a wedding bring hidden. I don’t get all of it, but the only way to get close is to work it several ways, and see what fits best. At some point though it gets pointless when there is no feedback because we end up spinning it in too many directions. I hope Ian will drop some more hints.

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  241. Fluffy said on June 14th, 2012 at 1:16 am

    Kate

    Ian has suggested that BP/JA could be more than friends. Remember the post ” I will grow old with Brad”

    Ian was critized at the time and he responded that ” I stand by my sources.

    I would appreciate your comments in relation to this.

    Where is Sandy and Child of Madusa

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  242. Fluffy said on June 14th, 2012 at 1:16 am

    Kate

    Ian has suggested that BP/JA could be more than friends. Remember the post ” I will grow old with Brad”

    Ian was critized at the time and he responded that ” I stand by my sources.

    I would appreciate your comments in relation to this.

    Where is Sandy and Child of Madusa

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  243. Kate said on June 14th, 2012 at 2:07 am

    @Fluffy:
    Hi Fluffy, yes I remember that, but that was what Jen said to someone connected to him. What I meant when I said Ian has never said they were more than friends is that he has never confirmed that they are more than that, or said it ever got to that point. It may have been the intention, and they reunited as friends , but as far as I know he never said they hooked up. We got all the , going my way, and baby ga gas goo goo, but still no idea if that was just as a friend . He mentioned one was holding back, one was unsure , so we can assume they were discussing a partnership of some type, but that seemed to end with the promos of TOL. I don’t know where the other ladies are, maybe just busy. :) nice to see you.

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  244. Fluffy said on June 14th, 2012 at 2:22 am

    Thanks Kate

    Thanks for that! May be I still believe in fairy tales!

    Bye the way everone here especially Kate and Rushdog I love you all. Ian your website rocks!

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  245. Siska said on June 14th, 2012 at 3:03 am

    Anyone can link the video of access hw of jtx interview that mention Jen?

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  246. Siska said on June 14th, 2012 at 7:58 am

    Ok I just research jtx background,and he was coming from a very respectable family,his dad actually a very famous and respectful corporate attorney/ lecturer ,and his principal,actually very decent which he basically saying that being friend to people not just because we want something from them,and do whatever we like to do not just because it’s will benefit later,but because we enjoy it…this is seem a very decent person and jtx mum also a very good person, and he isn’t that desperate for fame..so I don’t think he will play along with Jen as a pretend bf just to cover p for bp..it’s impossible..
    Btw..I think jtx will be bald soon.,he..he..his dad bald..but has good physical appearance.quite fit..

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  247. Guest1 said on June 14th, 2012 at 10:27 am

    I think that is a made up blind. I just can’t imagine any woman swimming naked with her young son and his friends watching. It would be just too damaging mentally for the son. Could you imagine, when you were a girl, your father swimming naked in front of you and your friends? I’d still be in therapy.

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  248. Sandy Hamilton said on June 14th, 2012 at 10:59 am

    @Fluffy:
    I rarely comment any longer because there seems to be so much dissention to my take on things, but my take is the same — it is known in Hollywood that Jen Anniston only has eyes for Brad Pitt — In fact it is sort of a cute joke. No one is being mean to Jen or making fun of her — people just know that she loves very hard and deeply and Brad Pitt is that Love and she can’t help it.

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  249. Up the Coast said on June 14th, 2012 at 11:38 am

    @Guest1:
    :shock: Ange is the queen of “no boundaries”…

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  250. Tetta said on June 14th, 2012 at 11:51 am

    @Up the Coast:

    If Angelina thinks she will take a bath in the pool without swimsuit she does it and dot even think of what others think about it. I can even go one step further. She would find it interesting to see how the kids and their eventual friends would react to see her naked. As you say “no boundaries”. I don´t doubt it´s true.

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  251. Up the Coast said on June 14th, 2012 at 12:43 pm

    @Tetta:
    I don’t doubt it either….and now that you mention it, they probably DO see the swimming pool as a communal bath tub :lol: Ange could just be crying in the pool tho….cuz Jen/Justin are getting all the attention right now, and rightly so!

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  252. Tetta said on June 14th, 2012 at 1:05 pm

    @Up the Coast:

    Now I´m going to be really cruel. No I wan´t, I changed my mind :lol: What I think it´s on the edge to be too cruel. I don´t want Ian to block me :)

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  253. payal said on June 14th, 2012 at 1:20 pm

    @Tetta:
    say it! lol

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  254. Tetta said on June 14th, 2012 at 2:55 pm

    @payal:

    Very short. I thought of the crashed computer and what we discussed what could shock us. We had a hard time to find something that could shock us. But think of a nude Angelina, children and the computer then you know how I thought.

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  255. Guest2 said on June 14th, 2012 at 2:56 pm

    @Tetta:
    If you’re thinking what I think you’re thinking I surely wouldn’t want to be the pool boy cleaning up there. Okay, sick, twisted mind I have. I tend to agree with G1 that this might be a made-up blind. It’s too disgusting to believe anyone would do that.

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  256. Guest2 said on June 14th, 2012 at 3:01 pm

    Brad’s in Germany buying artwork. J/J have left their hotel in Paris for destinations unknown.

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  257. payal said on June 14th, 2012 at 3:16 pm

    @Guest2:
    he looks like a fool, i really wnat to punch his face in.

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  258. payal said on June 14th, 2012 at 3:18 pm

    @Tetta:
    i had a feeling it would be something like that

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  259. Guest1 said on June 14th, 2012 at 3:34 pm

    I believe that blind item originated from the National Enquirer.

    I don’t like to think about children being abused, and what that blind item suggests, in my opinion, is a form of abuse.

    On a side note, I get sick every time I hear reports about the Sandusky trial. I look away whenever they show his picture on TV.

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  260. Up the Coast said on June 14th, 2012 at 3:46 pm

    @Guest2:
    Oh…sure…he’s buying “artwork” ;) ;)

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  261. joanne said on June 14th, 2012 at 3:46 pm

    @Guest1:
    Sandusky should have been put away years ago, his wife too. Being rich and powerful he might get away with it.

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  262. joanne said on June 14th, 2012 at 3:49 pm

    @joanne:
    I cringe when I see people wearing Penn State items because if brings to mind this digusting man and the people who hid his crimes.

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  263. Up the Coast said on June 14th, 2012 at 3:52 pm

    @Guest2:
    @Guest1:
    Wasn’t the last thread headed in this direction? And we all freaked out about it? Some people seem to think that being nude is natural…..or is it an excuse to normalize innapropriate behavior? IDK, but imo, joLIE would do it to make everyone else feel uncomfortable, cuz she digs that, she likes to be “different”.

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  264. Up the Coast said on June 14th, 2012 at 3:57 pm

    @joanne:
    Me too! He is disgusting and so is his wife. I still do not understand WHY McCreary didn’t bash his face in when he had the chance….and protect that child from further abuse. There are no real men at Penn State????

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  265. joanne said on June 14th, 2012 at 4:00 pm

    @Up the Coast:
    The visual of an boney hag swimming naked makes me nauseated. I guess the bare boobs would impress a child but I would think its some kind of abuse. Indecent exposure.

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  266. joanne said on June 14th, 2012 at 4:08 pm

    @Up the Coast:
    Just men that think winning is more important that some poor kid who has nothing going for him.
    http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/college/jerry-sandusky-lawyer-joe-amendola-a-16-year-old-client-pregnant-married-article-1.977873
    PA is looking bad :(

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  267. Guest2 said on June 14th, 2012 at 4:43 pm

    @Tetta:
    Oops, that’s not what I was thinking. I’m going to give her the benefit of the doubt on that.

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  268. Guest2 said on June 14th, 2012 at 4:46 pm

    @Up the Coast:
    Actually, that’s not what I was thinking as I mentioned above. The question I have is do bones float?

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  269. joanne said on June 14th, 2012 at 4:47 pm

    @Guest2:
    Is she a floater or sinker? :lol:

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  270. Tetta said on June 14th, 2012 at 4:51 pm

    If you are nude in the wrong place you will be accused of disorderly conduct. Perhaps not in your own home but because of pedophile I don´t think you can get away with everything if there are people outside the family who visits you.

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  271. Tetta said on June 14th, 2012 at 4:56 pm

    @Guest1:

    You used the correct words. What the BI suggest is a form of abuse.

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  272. Tetta said on June 14th, 2012 at 5:02 pm

    Since Angelina has looked anorectic for a long time I think she suffers from osteoporosis. Her bones can´t weigh too much. I believe she is a floater. Then it only gets worse for the children.

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  273. Guest2 said on June 14th, 2012 at 5:03 pm

    @Tetta:
    I agree and I think the parents of those friends would not be happy to know the mother is doing that in the presence of their children. Still we don’t know who this is or if it’s even true. It’s disturbing to think it’s true and more disturbing to think it’s made up.

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  274. Kate said on June 14th, 2012 at 5:04 pm

    I listed four themes and asked Ian which should be eliminated. All of these have been popping up over the last few weeks since the 1464 riddle due to different clues, and their interpretation.

    1-Jen bearding and gay
    2-Jen bearding
    3-Jen grooving and in love with Justin
    4-Jen connected to Brad in some weird way

    His answer:

    Jen bearding and gay. (we knew that ) :) but always nice to have it confirmed.

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  275. Guest2 said on June 14th, 2012 at 5:06 pm

    @Tetta:
    That make sense, bones with osteoporosis are no longer dense so they would float. I guess the milkshakes didn’t help much with that.

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  276. Tetta said on June 14th, 2012 at 5:07 pm

    @Guest2:

    The subject is disturbing, It´t wrong from every angles.

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  277. Guest2 said on June 14th, 2012 at 5:10 pm

    @Kate:
    Thanks for clearing that up, kate. So that must mean jen bearded for someone, bp? No. 3 sounds about right based on what we’ve seen the last couple of days. No. 4 is what we don’t want but what is the weird connection to brad?

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  278. Tetta said on June 14th, 2012 at 5:18 pm

    @Guest2:

    The weird connection doesn´t have to be material as in money. Maybe they still share a weird kind of friendship that is hard to explain. We know Jennifer cares about her friends. Perhaps she will be in contact with him until he is healthy or in peace again. But I don´t think it´s a relation that bothers Justin.

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  279. joanne said on June 14th, 2012 at 5:44 pm

    @Kate:
    So Aniston is bearding and gay? That means JT and Pitt are gay? Is everyone gay in Hollyweird? What happened to bisexuals?

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  280. elephant said on June 14th, 2012 at 6:03 pm

    @joanne:
    I believe what she meant it that Ian eliminated that option….

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  281. Tetta said on June 14th, 2012 at 6:06 pm

    @joanne:

    As justin isn´t an A – list star he doesn´t need a beard. And that man doesn´t send any gay vibes, at least not to me. I think she bearded for Brad but not to 100 %. I don´t think she knew “how much” bisexual Brad is or was when they married. There are bisexuals who are married to the opposite sex without being unfaithful.

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  282. elephant said on June 14th, 2012 at 6:07 pm

    I just wanted to come on quick to let you all know my (oooh) inside info on JA. I forwarm, I have no way to know if this is true.
    I asked the person who told me she is pregnant about it again. It was a skype conversation, so pretty dry. In anycase, she was sure she is pregnant. She has not seen JA for a month or so from what I gathered, maybe month and a half. This person’s job would make it necessary for her to know if someone’s size has changed or is changing, if that helps. Take it for what it’s worth. I guess she might not be anymore, which would be sad, but as of last info, yes she is.
    To be honest, I have seen her lately, JA, and she doesn’t look pregnant to me…her face is bigger, but I am not on board yet…

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  283. elephant said on June 14th, 2012 at 6:10 pm

    And not that I would know, but I could see her using a surragate and waiting a while before she tells anyone. I think whatever anyone chooses, it has to be right for them. I kinda just think that is something that might shock people, to learn that she had a baby via surrogate months ago and no one knew…

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  284. elephant said on June 14th, 2012 at 6:11 pm

    Ok, I am rambling, but she just looks happy now. I don’t know if JT is just her friend or not, or what. But she seems happy whatever is going on. I kinda just think she should get that time to just be happy, no expectations of weddings or babies, just happiness and enjoying life…ok, sorry :)

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  285. Kate said on June 14th, 2012 at 6:13 pm

    I didn’t ask him , only those four themes. I chose those because they seem to be the ones that we keep coming back to with each riddle each time her name comes up. The Jen is gay and bearding came keeps getting brought up, and even though Ian told us a year ago she is not gay. there was the reference to the sitcom with the lead character as Jen who was lesbian in one of the riddles. By Ian eliminating that subject I think it might help us see how he uses the clues, because that was one that seemed an obvious, but could lead us astray, and of course all the clues pointing to the bearding, which is why I offered two options. It is pretty clear he is pointed to some type of bearding. It is not clear if he is pointing to it as past, or present tense, or how it is used and for what reason exactly. The weird connection to Brad appears to go back to the call of the dead Easter egg, possibly that relates to the midnight express calls to ex. ME could mean she was in a hurry. Unless he was calling her of course. He could be referring to something to do with the weird relationship with them if we consider the last post of Fred the Red and he opened this one with More: if that is reading it correctly. I don’t know. He did not rule out the one about Jennifer Groovin and in love with Justin, so that may mean she started out bearding. The have you ever been bonded immediately made everyone think of “insurance” though, and so it makes me wonder, is Ian talking past tense, or present?

    I think for me right now it reads somewhere in the middle of my last two interpretations. This is about Jen’s image, and how she built it back or maintains it,her spiritual growth as a person, looking at life differently, she has become more content with her life, and a bigger star, but not all is as it seems on the surface, she started with Vince, as a beard, a friend, to cover the embarrassing situation she was in after the wake of her divorce, she was caught up in the triangle, and was every bit a part of it as the Brange, whether they collaborated or not, they all benefited. There were midnight calls to Brad, maybe late at night, for whatever reason, getting around whoever they needed to , always in a hurry, or for a reason, it was time to cool that off, so she stopped ? although they are still in touch, she has learned to tap into her emotional void by not running from her fear, getting out and living her life. she decided to just go with it. I don’t know if he is saying she did that by starting here with Vince as a beard , and it ended, then that bearding did not work so well for her career, she dated John, and we saw what happened there, Derailed would describe that relationship. I don’t think Ian is saying John was a working relationship, then she was alone for a long time and he career took some hits, this was when she and Brad were in touch , the 09-11 years, and along comes time to revive things, needs to dress the part, so in comes Justin, an old friend, they put the relationship together to benefit each other, to look Picture Perfect, and fall in love in the end, she needed to be the part of what everyone wanted her to be, singing to the choir, and is now, everyone knows that, but he is her insurance, or she his. She has changed from who she use to be, just like everyone else now that does this, she is lost in the crowd, and Ian is aware she beards her relationships, busted and disgusted, but more of a reference to behavior that is not aligned with Jen America’s Sweetheart.

    It may be more than that of course, but that is all we have to go on, an since he said , Open Sesame , and that is the tried and trusted reason to attain a goal (bearded) it seems to support that theory. Well done, contradicts Busted and disgusted so I don’t think it is him saying that is how he feels, and then the A-1 comment, and take by storm, makes me wonder if he means Jennifer and Justin will become the new Brangelina, I don’t know. She does not look pregnant to me at all. I am probably wrong on on many points, but this is just a loose interpretation without thinking too much, and exerting more energy than I have. :)

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  286. Tetta said on June 14th, 2012 at 6:14 pm

    @Tetta:

    What I meant is that he is homosexual and not bisexual. Jen thought he was bi but that he would skip the men when they got together and then married.

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  287. elephant said on June 14th, 2012 at 6:15 pm

    Oooh, I keep forgetting, DUH, I have a very dear friend who went to school with Brad and his brother and sister – there are good stories! But basically everyone thought he was gay back then. He was considered nerdy, def not in the popular group and had a bad complection…anyway, so if that what was thought back then, maybe…I believe it too. He went to high school in Springfield, MO.

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  288. elephant said on June 14th, 2012 at 6:20 pm

    @Kate:
    I think you are right, or as right as we can be??? :)

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  289. Kate said on June 14th, 2012 at 6:20 pm

    @joanne:
    No, that was the- ain’t. :)

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  290. joanne said on June 14th, 2012 at 6:23 pm

    @elephant:
    okay, I read that wrong. This is nice to hear.

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  291. joanne said on June 14th, 2012 at 6:24 pm

    @Kate:
    I am getting old. Thanks for clearing that up.

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  292. joanne said on June 14th, 2012 at 6:26 pm

    @Tetta:
    I didn’t get any gay vibes either.
    Glad to be wrong this time. :)

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  293. Kate said on June 14th, 2012 at 6:27 pm

    @elephant:
    I don’t know how to interpret the rapper song, and or the busted and disgusted really, those little clues that are just dangling make it unclear, but someone else might.

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  294. Kate said on June 14th, 2012 at 6:29 pm

    @joanne:
    lol me too.

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  295. Up the Coast said on June 14th, 2012 at 6:31 pm

    @joanne:
    Sounds like there might be a whole community of pedophiles?

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  296. joanne said on June 14th, 2012 at 6:52 pm

    @Up the Coast:
    I hope the feds are investigating. I think they should be.

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  297. joanne said on June 14th, 2012 at 6:54 pm

    @Kate:
    I missed the word eliminated. I guess its time for new glasses.

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  298. Tetta said on June 14th, 2012 at 7:02 pm

    @Up the Coast:

    I´m sure there is a community of pedophiles in the movie business. There are pedophiles communities at a lot of places. In Sweden they found a small one at a policestation of all places a couple of months ago. The reason we don´t want Jennifer to be involved in some dirty business is, as I think, she seems so normal and that she looks healthy. She also seemed to grow up, if not in a quite normal environment, but yet close to. We know her mother hurt her deeply but there are millions of people with trouble in the family who grows up to decent people. I wouldn´t mind if she is gay but I would be disappointed that she had hidden it.

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  299. Up the Coast said on June 14th, 2012 at 7:03 pm

    @Guest2:
    @joanne:
    :lol: She’s sinking right now….

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  300. Up the Coast said on June 14th, 2012 at 7:07 pm

    @Tetta:
    Tetta…I was referring to the Sandusky trial that is going on in PA…nothing to do with our Jen. It sounds shocking that a police station would be covering for a bunch of pedophiles, but it makes sense that they would hide in plain site, and pretend to be pillars of the community! That is so evil!

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  301. Up the Coast said on June 14th, 2012 at 7:11 pm

    @Tetta:
    That made me laugh! But seriously, I’m afraid you are right about her suffering with osteoporosis.

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  302. Tetta said on June 14th, 2012 at 7:21 pm

    @Up the Coast:

    I heard about him on the news yesterday. As I got it he wanted to be released from prisson but I´m not sure. At least I know who he is and what he has done.

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  303. Kate said on June 14th, 2012 at 7:44 pm

    @elephant:
    Losing you in the Crowd song by Alex Wolff, (does Ian watch Nickelodeon? haha)song is about teen peer pressure. Just like Tapping Into An Emotional Void, was Ian really trying convey what those lyrics reflect, because the album, has a joker face on it. The Jokes On You and came out in 1989. Like a Star wiz- Wiz is rapper and that song as was one of his biggest hits is about toking. When I was a teenager if someone was Groovin, they usually had a joint in their hand. lol and were at a concert.I get the impression part of this riddle, although it is about Jen’s professional image, and how that has been built up, it is also about her, chilling out , toking, (she looks pretty chilled up there. lol)bearding, and loving, and whatever behavior he is referring to that aligns to the busted and disgusted to the peer pressure , personal and professional, and how it relates to keep her status.As for Brad imagine the book Jen could write on Brad’s back story. lol I wonder what kind of insurance is in place there. There are still some that believe he is straight.

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  304. Up the Coast said on June 14th, 2012 at 7:52 pm

    @Kate:
    So Jen bearding and gay is NOT what Ian is saying?

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  305. Kate said on June 14th, 2012 at 7:54 pm

    @Up the Coast:
    No, lol, not at all. Eliminated.

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  306. joanne said on June 14th, 2012 at 7:55 pm

    @Tetta:
    He wasn’t in prison. He is rich so he is innocent until proven guilty.
    http://insession.blogs.cnn.com/2011/11/15/sandusky-lives-near-an-elementary-school/

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  307. Up the Coast said on June 14th, 2012 at 8:01 pm

    @Kate:
    Cool!

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  308. Up the Coast said on June 14th, 2012 at 8:03 pm

    @joanne:
    Hard to believe, isn’t it? When he finally gets to prison, someone is going to wipe that goofy grin off his face!

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  309. iwasanon said on June 14th, 2012 at 8:33 pm

    @Kate:
    Kate, I have to admit that I haven’t completed your last long guess so I may be missing something you explained before, but I just want to ask about a few things on this post

    - “bearding did not work so well for her career” you make it sound like her career was impacted as a result of her relationships and it seems to me that’s been not the case at all. (regardless of whether they were real/fake). Her track record over her last 10 movies is up there compared to any actress in Hollywood. No one has 100% success rate but Jen is very near the top as far as her movies being financial successes. 8 of her last 10 movies doubled their prod budgets. That’s a pretty good record. Also I think it’s pretty clear to everyone that the success of a movie has more to do with if it’s good than if the actor/actress is in a relationship. JGWI was successful but she wasn’t dating anyone. HB being a success had nothing to do with her dating anyone. WL, she was dating someone and it failed.

    - Not sure I get how you arrived at “midnight calls to the ex” were to brad? I know Ian confirmed Jen is associated with the “ex is an ex” but did he confirm she is the ex or is the ex one of her exes?

    - also don’t get “Open Sesame , and that is the tried and trusted reason to attain a goal (bearded)”. Open sesame to me is the equivalent of magically opening a door or a box to get a treasure. How did this get to bearding? Also what does tried and trued mean and where did it come from.

    - also (tied to Tetta’s comment) Jen bearding for Brad. She has often said since her divorce, you can’t change a person and when someone tells you something believe it. (or something like that)

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  310. joanne said on June 14th, 2012 at 8:36 pm

    @Up the Coast:
    that would be nice.

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  311. Guest2 said on June 14th, 2012 at 8:39 pm

    @elephant:
    Some clues from last year seemed to suggest she had a baby. If so, it would have been by surrogate since she was clearly not pregnant but where the heck is she hiding the kid? If she is pregnant now she’s hiding it very well. Some days she looks really thin and other days it looks like her clothes are tight. Thank goodness people don’t scrutinize my body like they do this poor woman’s. I feel like I should apologize to her, lol.

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  312. Guest2 said on June 14th, 2012 at 8:41 pm

    @Up the Coast:
    And then justice will be served.

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  313. joanne said on June 14th, 2012 at 8:41 pm

    @Kate:
    Number 3 sounds the best.

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  314. Up the Coast said on June 14th, 2012 at 9:23 pm

    @joanne:
    +1

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  315. Up the Coast said on June 14th, 2012 at 9:28 pm

    @joanne:
    @Guest2:
    It will be as close to justice as we can get, at this point :(

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  316. Kate said on June 14th, 2012 at 10:12 pm

    @iwasanon:
    When I work a riddle I throw out everything, and start with each piece and research it. I do not take into account what a star has said, because this is a blind. That was written loosely. Ian ruled out the gay and bearding, but not bearding, so regardless of what my own personal feelings are, I have to go with that, or I am wasting my time. He did not eliminate Brad and the weird relationship and Jen grooving and in love with Justin, so those are the parameters. Midnight Express was disscussed upthread,I really used those who worked on that, then looked at it, and agreed. Open Sesame was defined by Party I believe and the definition appears to me at least to match the Twitter. The answer to these are “never” personal to me, at all. Not in any way, and while I am very aware some may get offended or upset with the explanations or guesses, if I trust Ian to be honest, and I do, then I have to be completely unbiased in working these. It is a waste of time otherwise. I try to work them from every angle until it feels right, but honestly the answers do not really make any difference to me. I am just here to post with friends and support Ian, :)

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  317. Guest2 said on June 14th, 2012 at 10:39 pm

    @Kate:
    Maybe jen buys pot from brad, that would be a weird connection.

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  318. Guest2 said on June 14th, 2012 at 10:46 pm

    @Guest2:
    Maybe that’s the reason for the midnight express phone calls.

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  319. P. Gold said on June 14th, 2012 at 10:46 pm

    Could midnight express be as simple as a quick angry call to her ex to ask him to stop all the nonsense and stop bothering her?

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  320. Guest2 said on June 14th, 2012 at 10:46 pm

    @Guest2:
    Maybe they’re all meeting up at miraval to try out his new crop.

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  321. Up the Coast said on June 14th, 2012 at 10:50 pm

    @Guest2:
    :lol: That would be a great pic to catch!

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  322. Up the Coast said on June 14th, 2012 at 10:52 pm

    @P. Gold:
    Hey Plucky!

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  323. Guest2 said on June 14th, 2012 at 10:52 pm

    @P. Gold:
    Yes, that makes sense. She should have done it after that Parade interview.

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  324. P. Gold said on June 14th, 2012 at 10:54 pm

    @Up the Coast:
    Hi UTC.

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  325. Kate said on June 14th, 2012 at 10:54 pm

    @Guest2:
    Ha ha , well he does have that herb farm. ;)

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  326. Kate said on June 14th, 2012 at 10:58 pm

    @Guest2:
    I wonder too about that, but the reason I asked Ian if I could disclose that they are still friends was because so many think they are not and get off track on the riddles, and I explained that , and he said yes, tell them.

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  327. whatever said on June 14th, 2012 at 11:04 pm

    Jen’s Booty Dress: A treasure of a Dress. Wedding dress??

    giving to the poor: I think Jennifer has downsized a lot of things in her life and thrown out a lot of stuff from her past…so she gave those items to the poor. Maybe even her wedding dress she had when married to Brad, amongst other items.

    living the wisdom of tao. Time to move on make changes that are more or less positive for HER, instead of what other people expect out of her.

    grooving in the garden: An Event at the botanical gardens in VA. Is this Jen/Justins wedding venue??

    like a star wiz: Justin was well known in Hollywood before hooking up with Jennifer. Just because he wasn’t well known to everyone, Justin was a successful actor/writer etc, before.

    oven and shaker menu: Is this a hint about a menu for a wedding??

    midnight phone calls to ex: EX is already Jennifer, so who is calling her? Brad? Is he that upset with her being with Justin, that it’s driving him to make phone calls to her??

    fix heated phone: heated phone calls from Brad to Jennifer with them fighting/arguing on the phone? Her telling him off and to leave her alone??

    tapping into the emotional void: Jennifer doesn’t feel anything for Brad anymore. He won’t accept it.

    Just Go with it: She has decided to take a chance on marriage again, and that is with Justin.

    Derailed: Brad is trying to derail her relationship with Justin…but it isn’t working.

    Picture Perfect: Jens relationship with Justin is strong, and nothing can come between them. The pictures we are seeing are the truth to their relationship, happy, content and very much in love.

    singing to the choir: Tired of the tabs making up stories..they are both ignoring it all. Just living, loving and being happy they found each other.

    Have you ever been bonded: Pre-nup??

    losing you to the crowd: Jennifer and Justin will not upstage each other in respect to their careers. One will hold back while the other one shines, and vice versa…

    busted and disgusted: Jennifer found out that the supposed engagement of the brand was nothing but a publicity stunt, made to take away her happy news, about being engaged to Justin….that they were going to announce.

    I still think this clue has a lot to do with Jennifer and Justin being engaged, were set to announce it, Jolie got wind of it, put a ring on her finger from her jeweler and had it photographed, and had her jeweler announce an engagement, at the same time that Jennifer and Justin were going to announce theirs……..yea..I can see her being a bitch like that….she still thinks she is in some warped competition with Jennifer.

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  328. P. Gold said on June 14th, 2012 at 11:10 pm

    @Kate:

    I think they are still friends cos Jen is kind by nature , also because she has to be careful not to anger Bradders and his powerful friends. See what happens to Jolie if she aint doing things right in HW. That does not mean she is contantly in contact with him. I’m one who wont slam down the phone on anyone, so I cant understand Jen not doing that until her patience thins off.

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  329. P. Gold said on June 14th, 2012 at 11:14 pm

    @whatever:

    Agree with you. Derailed- Brad trying to derail her relationship with Justin. Is that why he’s in Germany now? Trying to bump into her or near her?

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  330. Fluffy said on June 14th, 2012 at 11:16 pm

    Whatever

    Great post!

    Lets hope your spot on! JA deserves happiness

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  331. joanne said on June 14th, 2012 at 11:44 pm

    @whatever:
    This sounds good.

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  332. iwasanon said on June 14th, 2012 at 11:52 pm

    @Kate:
    Kate, I’m not offended, just trying to understand. Perhaps my frustration with the riddles is coming through however I do appreciate your getting some eliminations from Ian.

    The first one I was saying that I don’t see how to link her career success to bearding because she’s had pretty good success. For example, If she had been like AJ, who had almost no success before she got with Pitt which then changed after MAMS, it is much easier to say her success is due to hooking up with Pitt. With Jen, it’s not easy to correlate her success/failures to real/fake relationships to know which were real or fake.

    Actually, now I realize I’m confused by what is meant by “Jen is bearding”. Bearding to me is when a man or woman is used to cover for an opposite sex partner who is gay. This is different from a heterosexual person who is in a fake relationship just to make it look like they are in a relationship. Which is what I thought some here had suggested, e.g. that Jen & Justin were not gay but were in a fake relationship (contract) for some reason (possibly so she’d be in a relationship when the brand split so she wouldn’t be brought into the mess)
    So what we have is (I get that #1 was elim but to understand the diffs so I’ll list all)
    1-Jen bearding and gay – she’s gay and she was either a beard for someone or someone was a beard for her
    2-Jen bearding – she’s not gay but she was a beard for some male that is gay
    3-Jen fake relationship – she’s not gay but was/is in a fake relationship with a guy that is not gay.
    4-Jen real relationship – she was/is in a real loving relationship with a guy
    Do you see my confusion?

    - Midnight exp – ok, I’ll go back and read what the others said.

    - I saw Patty’s thoughts of Open Ses/Drawbridge (floodgates are open, means of attaining a goal) but I don’t see how you got to bearded with that. I’m obviously missing something.

    - the 4th one, Jen bearding for Brad and what she said. I was saying it’s possible she could have been bearding for Brad (possibly knowingly or as I think Tetta was say, unknowingly). Are you saying you don’t think that’s possible?

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  333. iwasanon said on June 15th, 2012 at 12:11 am

    @Kate:
    Just want to add to my above post. I explained my understanding of beard vs fake relationship. Does anyone else distinguish these or do people just refer to a fake relationship as a beard?

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  334. Kate said on June 15th, 2012 at 12:42 am

    @iwasanon:
    Oh lol ok I see, we are using bearding here as in contract relationship, some do it for a gay partner, some do it to avoid an embarrassing situation, some to up their profile, some to change their image. In this case the reference was was Vince and Justin, but not John, and either one or both contracts moving to something real, as a possibility. There are so many variables, on the flash screen for Grooving in the Garden there is and ad for a Justin and one for a Vince in concert. That may not mean anything . As someone else noted that song was in It’s Complicated. She had a fling with her ex, but moved on with a new guy. She danced to that song with her ex I believe though. It could just be a reference to smoking weed and chilling. Just more little pieces to try and fit together. I don’t think the implication is that she needs to do this for her films, but rather to change her image, from poor Jen, to happy confident Jen, and Brad who?

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  335. Kate said on June 15th, 2012 at 12:46 am

    @P. Gold:
    Hi Pluckly, I just use Ian as a guide when I work on these. How are you?

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  336. Kate said on June 15th, 2012 at 12:49 am

    @whatever:
    You might be right. Maybe Ian will chime in.

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  337. fluffy said on June 15th, 2012 at 1:16 am

    Kate

    Did you also notice that Ian did not eliminate that Jen is not bearding

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  338. iwasanon said on June 15th, 2012 at 1:22 am

    @Kate:
    OK, now I get what you are saying. I never think of it like that. As I said, I always associate bearding with someone being gay and your other examples as contract/fake relationship. I think others may think as I do and were confused also. Going forward I will continue to distinguish these but at least now I understand what you and others are saying.
    Now that I get this, I think I see how you get from attain a goal to beard so I have to go back and re-read your post with this new understanding.
    Also see now what you mean by just needing to change the image. Because of mention of the movies I thought it was tied to that. Thx for explaining.

    I did look at the web site for Grooving in the Garden and the song but not sure how either fits or if there’s a clearer option.

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  339. Siska said on June 15th, 2012 at 1:36 am

    Just quick one,,in Aussie tabs mention about Jen gain weight ,because jtx love and support her..and how he made joke about Aj skinny body..which he just want to feed her burger..
    Another tabs mention about Jen broke up with jtx and she is on the rebound with jason sudakis and also how she detest russell brand flirt to her on MTV
    And another one about Aj and Bp having argument on how to handle their acting out son Pax..
    Oh on interview for his new movie killing me softly,Bp said that he only want to make movie that will make Aj proud.

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  340. Siska said on June 15th, 2012 at 1:37 am

    And the connection Kate mention about vv and jtx,,maybe something to do with their movie the watch? ..jtx rumoured to be on of the writer and vv starred in it.

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  341. P. Gold said on June 15th, 2012 at 3:50 am

    @Kate:

    Hi Kate, I’m fine thanks. Am trying to relax since my daughter’s exam is over. Learning to be a good Mum so that she’ll grow up a sweet and gentle person. How about you?

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  342. Guest2 said on June 15th, 2012 at 6:20 am

    @iwasanon:
    I too was confused by the term bearding so I’m glad you mentioned it and kate explained it. I looked it up and wiki gives the meaning of covering up sexuality but it can also mean a married man arranging for his mistress to have a a boyfriend so that no one suspects their own relationship. That confused me even more and made me think of angelooney’s funny phone calls between jen and brad!

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  343. Guest2 said on June 15th, 2012 at 6:30 am

    @Siska:
    Siska, not sure if you can open this link from aussie but there is no mention of justin being connected to The Watch, either as writer or actor.

    http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1298649/fullcredits#writers

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  344. Tetta said on June 15th, 2012 at 8:23 am

    Kate asked Ian ” which should be eliminated “. The question is if it means “which one of them” and he only pointed out one thing. If Kate meant he could eliminate all four options or two or three of them maybe Ian had eliminated “bearding” too. As I understand it “which” is used both for singulars and plurals.

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  345. Guest19 said on June 15th, 2012 at 8:27 am

    Can ever been bonded also refer to a baby. Not to start rumors, but Jen does look preggers to me and then in some pictures she looks skinny so I really can’t tell but wouldn’t be surprised.

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  346. Tetta said on June 15th, 2012 at 9:17 am

    @Guest19:

    As english isn´t my first language perhaps someone other should answer your question but I found this:

    http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_is_the_meaning_of_‘Have_you_ever_been_bonded’

    Inspite of what is written in the link I think “bonded” could be used in a relation to a child.
    In Sweden the dog breeders want the byer to fetch the dog when it´s 8 weeks because that is the best time for “bonding”. And as a parent to a newborn child you keep “bonding” to the child
    from when it´s born and forward in time.

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  347. siska said on June 15th, 2012 at 10:24 am

    I saw that,but it’s one early draft,on the news it’s mention about his involving..but after changing name and ready to be release.his involvement seem to be dissappear..I’m wonder..@Guest2:

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  348. siska said on June 15th, 2012 at 10:28 am

    Btw anyone who want to watch full video of justjen,type storm shadow on the YouTube..they have the most close up video of jusjen..I saw Chris McMillan on one of the video..it seem this outing was a promo work related/ holiday type of thing,.

    Oh and also there is a moment when Jen come out from the Eiffel resto,she has very cherry mood and comment on one of the paps..that he isn’t native French,..they both chuckle..

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  349. Guest2 said on June 15th, 2012 at 10:59 am

    @Tetta:
    @Guest19:
    If “bonded” refers to a child that would suggest a surrogacy to me where the mother and the child which was carried and delivered by another woman have to bond. Don’t know.

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  350. Guest19 said on June 15th, 2012 at 12:37 pm

    @Tetta, but it could also mean where two people become bonded to each other through a child. I have always thought as bonded to refer to a child especially when the couple is unmarried or maybe I have just watched too much soap operas lol.

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  351. Up the Coast said on June 15th, 2012 at 12:59 pm

    Is Ian saying that Jen/Justin have bonded over Sophie? Come on Ian…..give us a break, throw us a bone!

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  352. Tetta said on June 15th, 2012 at 1:10 pm

    @Guest19:

    You are right, I have only heard it about children and puppies. When Brad and Angelina met Maddox and Brad “bonded” quickly. There are a lot of movies where a child is used to let two grown ups meet and bond and I guess in real life too so I don´t think it´s a thing invented by the soap operas :) But I have a feeling Ian could mean a seturity bond, that Jen has promised a bank to pay off a loan if for instance Brad can´t pay back money he has borrowed for a movie. But i think we have to wait for some english spoken person !

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  353. Tetta said on June 15th, 2012 at 1:17 pm

    @Up the Coast:

    Hello UTC ! I didn´t saw your comment before. Of course they have bonded over Sophie :)
    Didn´t Jennifer said in an interview that Sophie was “their baby ” ? If we are trying to solve this in a positive way, which I prefer, Jen and Justin bond over Sophie and perhaps sometime over a child. If we see it from the negative side I guess Jen could have given a seturity bond for Brad. That is perhaps their only thing they have together today.

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  354. Tetta said on June 15th, 2012 at 1:28 pm

    It´s really hard to solve this clue. Today I read all the comments from the beginning and I think Kate is right when she says it´s a description of Jennifer´s life and that her life has grown, she has found a way to live that suites her, Justin included. She has also been successful and have got awards. Brad is still involved in some way but i guess it´s only about money.

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  355. Up the Coast said on June 15th, 2012 at 1:44 pm

    @Tetta:
    Hi Tetta :)

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  356. Up the Coast said on June 15th, 2012 at 1:48 pm

    @Tetta:
    I know we’ve talked about this before with Kate….but did Brad buy Jen out of Plan B? Or is she still an investor? That could be a reason they still need to communicate with each other.

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  357. Kate said on June 15th, 2012 at 2:07 pm

    @Tetta:
    There is something we are missing I think. I went back and looked at the menu, where we thought it indicated the triangle after you all were discussing bonded. I don’t think it does. That is on the “about us” page. When you look at the lunch menu it has the * raw egg included. At the top of the menu it says shaker. There are four menus. There is shaker menu, and that is of course drinks, martinis etc. There is a note on there , always stirred unless unless requested otherwise, etc. Ian has used this Sam reference now a few times pointing to IVF. The midnight Express calls to the ex could be regarding the call of the dead Easter egg, or not. There was the the mystery baby mama also, possibly surrogate? Later adoption? I don’t know, just covering all possibilities. If it means it did not take though then it changes the rest of the riddle. If it did it does as well. If it is about past events, and just A chain of events in her life it does. The have you ever been bonded is a common question on a job application when money is involved? How would that apply, job application? I dunno. The other thing that really does not fit for me at all, is the busted and disgusted. I never watched that show. Reading about it though it covered the most vile and disgusting and sickening behavior one can have. These people did not know they were being watched. That makes me wonder, what is Ian really saying , that he has discovered something that has shocked him in the way this show did viewers? That is something I am having a little trouble ignoring, unless he tells us this is not the shocking clue. At the same time one of the episodes was called Nice and Nasty, and I have no idea what it was about, but the title could point to Horrible Bosses. Just more research.

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  358. Kate said on June 15th, 2012 at 2:13 pm

    @Up the Coast:
    I don’t know what the status is today, but I doubt it, although I would bet they help each other out with films in diffrent ways, they each have their own connections. I really only see them as friends, no hard feelings, moved on from all that, and just really like each other , but who knows, maybe it is deal after deal.

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  359. Kate said on June 15th, 2012 at 2:26 pm

    @Tetta:
    I don’t think so, only because I numbered the choices , and he responded by only answering to the first one exactly as I wrote it, and he could have easily said , 1 & 2. Last night after a couple of people read that answer to mean he was saying she is gay and bearding, I thought, ah yikes, I sure hope Ian read it right LOL I can see how it is easy to read a negative as a positive . The reason I asked the question like that though was to only narrow the field, not asking for the answer to the riddle. It gives him more room that way to choose what he wants to give us. I assume if he wants to make it crystal clear, someone will get a Bingo, or a salute , well done. So, does anyone happen to remember when Ian posted that on Twitter, could it have been in response to anyone and their guess. I was not posting during that time . Just a thought. bbl.

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  360. Up the Coast said on June 15th, 2012 at 2:26 pm

    @Kate:
    I also believe they are still friends. I thought there were pics of them, awhile back, where Jen was going into an office at Plan B, or she has an office in the same complex for Echo? I can’t remember now :oops:

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  361. rushdog said on June 15th, 2012 at 2:28 pm

    @Kate:
    Thanks for checking with Ian. So can’t rule out 2, 3 and 4. Probably all three.

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  362. rushdog said on June 15th, 2012 at 2:30 pm

    @P. Gold:
    midnight express = hash = points to pitt as ex (QT comments). But it suggests some urgency to me too.

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  363. rushdog said on June 15th, 2012 at 2:43 pm

    I’m going the “darker” view on this after a re-think and because “busted & disgusted” is described as “unthinkable behavior caught on video” (the Fox show) or “broken-down” (urban dictionary).

    And as Guest1 pointed out up-thread it’s “groovinG in the garden” and not “groovin” so did Ian make a type-o or is the “grooving” the correct clue, I say the latter, jmo.

    Grooving in the Garden is a song by Daniel May from the movie It’s Complicated. I cannot find any lyrics but it’s played during the graduation of the son of Meryl’s character. It may be a jazz piece and not have lyrics, not sure.

    Daniel May also wrote the song Girl From Ypsilanti (again can’t find lyrics) from FIGHT CLUB.

    Synopsis of It’s Complicated film… re: Jane (Meryl’s character) has…
    “after a decade of divorce–an amicable relationship with her ex-husband, attorney Jake (Alec Baldwin). Then after ten years she starts an affair with the ex-husband. Jane’s feeling pretty empowered cheating on the woman who broke up her marriage–after all, she’s not an adulteress if she had Jake first.”

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  364. rushdog said on June 15th, 2012 at 2:50 pm

    Jen’s mentioned in the Texas 1464 riddle as “Jen’s call of the dead easter egg” which imo ties her to BP and probably means there’s something on ‘James “crashed” laptop’ :) that would explain “busted and disgusted” and threatens to leak. Thus the slew of re-direct photos/video in France to reinforce the image her fans have of her.

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  365. rushdog said on June 15th, 2012 at 2:52 pm

    Ketle One Vodka – made in The Netherlands :) bubbles, bubbles… :)

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  366. Tetta said on June 15th, 2012 at 2:55 pm

    @Kate:

    But now Ian told us Jennifer isn´t gay, so we are a bit wiser. First I thought of “Salut” as “Bingo” but when I saw the name Lebron I read Miami won an important basketball game I changed my mind. Ian´s salut was for the team. But he Ian could mean it in both ways. I know nothing about basketball but if I understood it right Lebron is a big basketball player. But if you make two columns, one positive side and one negative, the positive one seems to fit the best. There are some trouble but who hasn´t trouble from time to time :)

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  367. iwasanon said on June 15th, 2012 at 2:59 pm

    I’m making slow progress but here’s a couple of thoughts. I also looked back at the earlier Fred post, Thanks cls great memory.

    Sep 2011 post (concurrent with the first J&J dog & pony show in NY) – Fred – astute, hands on manager, exudes class, customers only only deserve the best quality at affordable prices
    (was this walk just PR or was it deflection? Was it deflection for themselves or maybe to help Pitt due to his Parade int)

    Current post (concurrent with the Paris dog & pony show) – Fred is A-1 class act; Fred and younger brother Dave could be most val exports
    (Again question the walk being just PR or deflection.)

    (In the Sep 2011 post there was some thought that Fred was CAA possibly because that post referred to Brad doing the about face from the Parade int. Does this still make sense or now that Dave is introduced as the younger brother and who will jointly make noise in the future? Is Fred-Jen and Dave-Justin?)

    Have you ever been bonded – I first thought of employee bonding. A bonding company has investigated your background and finds that you’re trustworthy and “good” enough to insure. (Could this mean Justin has been verified trustworthy?)
    Also found this about bonding. Bonded leather or reconstituted leather is a material made of varying degrees of genuine leather combined with other substances to give the appearance of leather, but at reduced cost compared to natural leather (could this mean J&J being bonded are giving the appearance of a real relationship?)

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  368. rushdog said on June 15th, 2012 at 2:59 pm

    The movies:

    Just Go With It – (comedy 2011) – her character is a single mother who is in on a ruse (trickery) to help out a friend. I think this points to her connection to BP in early 2011.

    Derailed (drama/thriller 2055) – her character pretends to be someone else – false impersonation – and is in on the scam from the beginning – media “triangle” since 2005

    Picture Perfect (romantic comedy 1997) – her character is not viewed as stable without a man so a co-worker leaks she is engaged. The fake relationship turns real at the end.

    then put “tapping the emotional void” above: The Joke is on you…ruse for friend/single mother…in on the “scam” since ‘95…fake relationship turns real (JTx)

    and why?

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  369. Tetta said on June 15th, 2012 at 3:00 pm

    @rushdog:

    Rushdog, you are so good with Ian´s clues. But this time I hope you are wrong :)
    J&J looked so happy ! But of course they can act if needed.

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  370. rushdog said on June 15th, 2012 at 3:21 pm

    I think this is a good/bad truthful description of who she is and she’s comfortable with it. But she’s not, and never has been, the girl next door and there may be negatives threatening to leak (”crashed” laptop?) so she’s using her current relationship walks/photos as a re-direct and reinforcement of her image (”losing you to the crowd”) just like the others do.

    Just Go With It…Grooving in the Garden!!! Fred at Red an A1 Class Act!!!
    Single Mother/Ruse to Help A Friend…It’s Complicated (an affair)…JA A1 Finest Performance!!!

    Jen’s booty dress = SEXY, YOUTHFUL STYLE
    giving to the poor = GENEROUS, GOOD FRIEND
    living the wisdom of the tao – SPIRITUAL, YOGA
    grooving in the garden = AFFAIR W/HER EX
    like a star wiz = THE LIFE OF THE A-LIST BEHIND THE TINTED GLASS
    oven & shaker menu = (is literally) = BRICK OVEN PIZZA AND COCKTAILS = PARTY & FUN
    midnight express calls to ex – URGENT CALLS TO BP
    fix heated phone = STOP THE PROBLEM
    tapping the emotional void = THE JOKE IS ON YOU
    just go with it = SINGLE MOTHER IN ON A RUSE TO HELP A FRIEND
    derailed = FALSE IMPERSONATION AND IN ON THE SCAM
    picture perfect = NOT VIEWED AS STABLE W/OUT A MAN so FAKE RELATIONSHIP, THIS ONE (JTx) TURNS REAL to
    singing to the choir = REINFORCE IMAGE
    have you ever been bonded = AS INSURANCE AGAINST LOSS
    losing you to the crowd = (by the Queens duo Black Sheep) = MIXING WITH THE NORM JUST LIKE THE OTHER GIRLS
    busted & disgusted = “UNTHINKABLE BEHAVIOR” CAUGHT ON VIDEO

    Ketle One Vodka – sophisticated, smooth, made in The Netherlands (bubbles…bong)

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  371. Up the Coast said on June 15th, 2012 at 3:22 pm

    @iwasanon:
    I hope it’s that “Justin has been verified trustworthy”.

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  372. rushdog said on June 15th, 2012 at 3:33 pm

    @Tetta:
    One of my posts is missing again. Drat! It was about the movies. Maybe it will show up soon?

    I think JA/JTx looked really comfortable, handsome and good together in the pics from Paris. Wouldn’t know how they truly feel about each other from the pictures but they do look like they like and enjoy each other (or else they’re really, really good actors) as opposed to AJ/BP who don’t look like they enjoy each other anymore and haven’t since late ‘08.

    If this is supposed to be the “shocking” riddle then this seems to be a way to get to shocking. It’s not shocking to me because I never viewed her as an extention of Rachel, but plenty of fans do.

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  373. joanne said on June 15th, 2012 at 3:36 pm

    @Up the Coast:
    me too

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  374. Tetta said on June 15th, 2012 at 3:47 pm

    @rushdog:

    During the years gone by her friends have made comments about Jennifer as “she isn´t the one you think she is ” , ” She loves her margaritas and red wine “, “she smokes”. Gerard Butler said in an interview when they promoted “Bounty Hunter” something like ” it´s hard to believe but she can be really dirty”. I´m not 100 % sure he used the word dirty but it had the same meaning. So there is no secret she isn´t the girl next door. But it´s good, I think all girls next door need to have some fun :)

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  375. Tetta said on June 15th, 2012 at 3:57 pm

    @rushdog:

    What you describe is exactly the same as many thought of Gerard Butler and Jennifer on the set of “Bounty Hunter” and while they promoted the movie. But they kept on denying they were a couple. There has been no denial about J&J but if the goal is to make us believe they are a couple it would be stupid to deny it. But I believe, in spite of her vices, she is easy to be with and have a good time with.

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  376. rushdog said on June 15th, 2012 at 4:03 pm

    OK my post on the movies is missing so I’ll just type it again. Sorry if the other verision shows up later.

    Just Go With It – (comedy 2011) her character is a single other in on a ruse (trickery) to help a friend. I think this points to early last year w/all the posts about BP.

    Derailed (drama/thriller 2005) her character impersonates a co-worker so false impersonation and in on the scam. ? In on the media “triangle” since ‘05. (Ian has been posting “the facade” and “microphonies,” just to name a few, for months).

    Picture Perfect (romantic comedy 1997) her character is viewed as not stable because she doesn’t have a man (oh please! this is truly how she’s portrayed in the tabs! Has it been that way since ‘97?) so her co-worker announces she’s engaged. Her fake relationship becomes real at the end.

    Her public persona (which I think is true btw) is at the beginning of the riddle: youthful, sexy, generous, friendly, spiritual, yoga, party & fun.

    Then: affair w/ex, urgent calls to ex, stop the problem (?leak)

    The Joke’s on You

    Then the movies: single mother, trickery, false impersonation, in on the scam, fake relationship.

    If this is supposed to be the shocking riddle imo this is how it gets there. Just throwing another riddle solution out there. Makes it all clear as mud right!

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  377. rushdog said on June 15th, 2012 at 4:28 pm

    The photos and video of JA/JTx walking in Paris and the leaving the hotel remind me (probably because they’re in an old European city) of AJ/BP in Italy (was it Florence?) when he walked off w/Shiloh and left AJ standing with the other three children. And also recent pics of AJ leaving a hotel w/the girls (can’t remember where). The photos remind me of each other because they’re similar PR shots. Did JA/JTx get papped just because they’re in Paris? (ok maybe in the airport) Nah, they wanted the PR. It’s how the game is played. And I like JA. And I know some posters don’t want to read this. It’s jmo. I just feel that if I’m going to call out AJ/BP for their shit then I need to call out others if I see the same.

    In the Paris the couple looked happy comfortable with each other. The photo/videos…PR for whatever reason it is/was needed.

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  378. joanne said on June 15th, 2012 at 4:39 pm

    @Tetta:
    Can you survive in Hollyweird being the girl next door?

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  379. Tetta said on June 15th, 2012 at 4:50 pm

    @joanne:

    Probably not, but I thought of all girls next door all over the world :lol:

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  380. rushdog said on June 15th, 2012 at 4:53 pm

    And one more comment for now…with regard to Just Go With It pointing to the riddled connection w/BP in the early part of 2011, there has been speculation in various places in the gossips that the document (NOTW leak) indicated that they would stay together until one of them wanted to be with someone else. And the words to the song Ian used at the very beginning of the puzzle in February 2011 suggested BP told her he wanted out because he wanted to be with another (was the song “In this Moment?”).

    What if that was the ruse, the trick for him to get out? To say he wanted to be w/another and JA agrees to help w/the ruse if he agrees to…use the frozen… Maybe there was a short-lived affair with the reuniting always uncertain (reunited ? deadfish) but the impetus behind a reconnection was the ruse.

    Not sure that makes any sense to anyone. Just thought I’d throw it out there as muddy food-for-thought.

    School’s out for the summer here and it’s a fantastically beautiful day!! Going outside for a while!

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  381. rushdog said on June 15th, 2012 at 5:13 pm

    @iwasanon:
    The walks in NYC in September of 2011 imo were deflection of “prissy and pink” arrival between Aug 16 (Gaga post) and the Sept 15 bait and switch on Jennifer (jennifer’s sofa bed) in Parade.

    JTx is brought in as smoke-screen (see Googling God riddle end of June 2011) which is why they went public so quickly and visably. Prissy and Pink also indicates BP determined at end of May/early June that MB was the whip so “Jen’s call of the dead easter egg” (secret operation BP [Black Ops Zombies] and referenced much later on in the Texas 1464 riddle) was released in May of 2011. Hmmm…my “ruse” suggestion in the previous post fits nicely in this scenario.

    I realize the “prissy and pink” sounds pretty far-fetched. Just my opinion on how the riddles connect.

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  382. Kate said on June 15th, 2012 at 5:39 pm

    Can you say that again, confused? lol

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  383. iwasanon said on June 15th, 2012 at 5:45 pm

    @rushdog:
    Getting some of what you said but not all of it. Did you take into account these references to Fred the Red. Do you think it’s coincidence that he was mentioned in the clues during both dog & pony shows?

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  384. Tetta said on June 15th, 2012 at 5:59 pm

    @Kate:

    Kate, I´m still on the menu. Do you mean the menu we can see if we click on the photo above ?
    I can´t find a lunch menu at any of the restaurants. Just a lot of good dishes, I get hungry !

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  385. haki said on June 15th, 2012 at 7:13 pm

    Jen and Justin leaving Paris!
    I love these two!!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v0u-HMPYMJk

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  386. haki said on June 15th, 2012 at 7:17 pm

    Jen and Justin going out to dinner in Paris!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Efo5ViZ6Wg

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  387. payal said on June 15th, 2012 at 7:34 pm

    friends i have to say the last few days ive been feeling down, im not stupid and not that naive to understand that jen is not pure as snow, she is a human being after all but the revelation that she was/is a coke addict really made my heart sink, how can i look at her the same way? i havent even been able to watch friends the last two days. what happened to her professionalism, the reason friends worked was because they were a community of hard and dedicated people making comedy great. the same with with all of jens career, i feel like ive been part of jens hoax for the last 13 years ive been a fan. im not crazy and i know the hollywood lifestyle but ive never adored or respected anyone like jen and now i cant even look at pictures of her without feeling weird and asking “who are you?!?”, im trying so hard to comprehend this whole situation because i feel its getting to the point where the final point will be jennifer aniston is one of the most terrible human beings on the planet even worse than jolie as is it coming across that jen is hiding alot.

    i think of everything people have said about jen and it is nothing but adulatory, how can they all be wrong but clearly they are. all the interviews that i have seen of her she has not once shown herself to be fake and so real and honest that are brad himself even said you cant help but be drawn to her, we saw her struggles with her mom all they way to the brangelina saga and she has shown herself to be the ultimate class-act with nothing but goodness in her………i could on and on about the wonder of jen and who she has been all these years but i think you get the point. i wish ian would just come out say what he knows about jen, all the bad so i can just move on and “heal myself” and find someone worthy to respect and admire and become a fan of. i think i need to stay away from here because it just makes me blue and at least with brangie we know what odious human beings they are but now its confusing with jen so much that i feel disappointed.

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  388. Kate said on June 15th, 2012 at 7:46 pm

    @Tetta:
    If you look at the ovenandshaker.com website you will the discription of this restaurant that first distracted us, a partnership between 3 of Portlands accomplished industry veterans. Ian though did say menu. There are tabs at the top,and if you click on menus, you get you get a list. lunch, dinner,shaker, wine. The lunch menu has the *item contains raw egg. On the dinner menu also. The shaker menu notes, at the bottom, serving all martinis stirred unless otherwise requested. At the top of the wine menu in bright red letters stamped across the menu- BOTTLES lol so rush could be right , just pizza and drinks, very ambiquious clue though. Sure does sound like someone had IVF and using baby bottles to me. Surrogate maybe? I don’t know. Too many ways to interprep this . :) .

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  389. Dream said on June 15th, 2012 at 7:49 pm

    i think brad is morphing into russell brand now. i guess brand brad would sort of work huh?
    http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-P_UTees5RWA/T9tX2nLkkQI/AAAAAAACA90/hfJlKaf0ae8/s1600/615%2Bbp.jpg

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  390. Up the Coast said on June 15th, 2012 at 7:49 pm

    @payal:
    Coke Addict?????? Who said she was an addict? Using coke, sometime in the past, and being an addict are two different things. Charlie Sheen is a good representation of a coke addict. I think you are taking this whole thing waaaaaaaay to seriously. Jen is happy and healthy, she’s not an addict, by any means.

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  391. Guest1 said on June 15th, 2012 at 7:51 pm

    @payal:
    Payal, I have seen no evidence that JA was/is on cocaine, just speculation. I googled the signs of cocaine use, and in my opinion, JA has never exhibited any of them. I’m not sure what addiction Justin conquered, but if he is in sobriety, I don’t believe he would be in a relationship with JA.

    In recent photo’s/interviews it seems that JA and JT are in a really good place, like they are really committed to each other. I wonder if something has changed in their relationship. Possibly a commitment to a future.

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  392. Guest1 said on June 15th, 2012 at 7:53 pm

    @Guest1:

    I meant to write I don’t believe he would be in a relationship with JA if she was on drugs.

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  393. Tetta said on June 15th, 2012 at 7:54 pm

    @Kate:

    Thank You Kate ! Now I will be hungry again but it´s late in Sweden now. No more food today !

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  394. haki said on June 15th, 2012 at 7:59 pm

    This talk of Jennifer having used cocaine in the past is complete nonsense! She has admitted to smoking pot in the past, but that is not the came as using cocaine! Come on people!!!The girl is entirely too healthy looking to be doing that kind of sh*t!!!

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  395. joanne said on June 15th, 2012 at 8:00 pm

    @payal:
    People probably know some not so nice things about everyone and anyone. Hollyweird isn’t the place to look for heros. Lots of people aren’t what they seem when behind closed doors. She is a good comedian and decent actress, thats all I expect from her. She doesn’t try to tell me how to live or pretend to be perfect.
    Your young so enjoy life and leave being the being perfect to the delusionists.

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  396. joanne said on June 15th, 2012 at 8:01 pm

    @joanne:
    That last line should say leave being perfect to the delusionists.

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  397. Kate said on June 15th, 2012 at 8:05 pm

    @payal:
    Payal, why does her doing coke with her friends and husband make you feel that way? No one said she was an addict, but everyone during that time frame, and today stRap new on the scene use coke. It is not even blinked at. I have been having dinner and sitting near people setting up a line on their dinner plate. Lol no kidding . Jennifer does not owe it to her fans to strip herself naked and bear all, right? Think back Payal, to when Jen started on stage, look back at her friends , they were libel, and partiers. She married Brad Pitt. Think about that, Jen is the same Jen you love, but not the pure Jen, or she would have never married him. Brad has a dark side. He and Jen were into naughty stuff even before they married. She is just coming back and being true to who she is, and there is nothing wrong with that. Your reaction though is a good example as to why they are so careful with her image. Don’t let that bother you, this is her job. Would it have upset you if Ian had said she was gay and bearding? It would not me, nor would it for anyone who feels that is better for their career. It is their right, gay ok, now faking their party line, that is a coward.

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  398. joanne said on June 15th, 2012 at 8:06 pm

    @payal:
    Addicts don’t look as healthy as she does.

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  399. Kate said on June 15th, 2012 at 8:08 pm

    @haki:
    No it isn’t, but no point debating . She and Brad used, and others on the set. I know that.

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  400. iwasanon said on June 15th, 2012 at 8:08 pm

    @payal:
    Payal, I have no idea where you came up with her being an addict. I agree with Up The Coast. And with what Joanne and Guest2 previously said. Jen is way too healthy for you to even consider this.

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  401. Guest2 said on June 15th, 2012 at 8:11 pm

    I was thinking he looks pretty rough. And dirty. As creepy as russell brand is, he doesn’t look dirty.

    @Dream:

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  402. haki said on June 15th, 2012 at 8:11 pm

    Kate, I love your posts, but I really don’t want to believe that she ever used “c”!

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  403. Kate said on June 15th, 2012 at 8:28 pm

    @haki:
    Haki , I am not trying to be arrogant or vain when I say this, no one would be able to tell my age, they always think I am a decade younger than I am, I lived through that era too, so…everyone one here is a Rachel ? I am not including myself in that, but I did grow up. :) and since when could you look at someone and tell if they have ever done cocaine. You can not.

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  404. Kate said on June 15th, 2012 at 8:31 pm

    @Kate:
    What I mean is, you can look healthy and youthful, unless you have been whacked out on smack all your life or a alcoholic. That is just ridiculous to think a star has to look bad if they have ever done drugs, half of these young beauties are snorting cone, some are doing heroin.

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  405. joanne said on June 15th, 2012 at 8:34 pm

    @Dream:
    Russell Brand led an interesting life and Pitt was molly coddled. Brand looks like he smells better too.

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  406. Kate said on June 15th, 2012 at 8:37 pm

    @iwasanon:
    I think in Payals innocence, which is wonderful, not many girls left that have that quality, she is confusing social users with addition. Very big difference. I know some guys though that are addicted that see hide it well, go the gym, etc. I say addict, because they can not get through a day without it, but not addict you are referring to. There are still many that use to get their creative juices flowing, same with Vicodin.

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  407. Dream said on June 15th, 2012 at 8:38 pm

    @Guest2:
    @joanne:
    i think its more the way hes standing and the clothes that reminded me of brand.
    yes pitt always looks dirty to me too.

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  408. Up the Coast said on June 15th, 2012 at 8:39 pm

    @joanne:
    “Hollyweird isn’t the place to look for heros” And THAT should be a t-shirt!!!

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  409. Dream said on June 15th, 2012 at 8:40 pm

    @Dream:
    btw anyone else notice how much healthier looking brad looks? not too long ago he was looking way skinny.

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  410. Guest2 said on June 15th, 2012 at 8:40 pm

    @payal:

    I agree with UTC, no one said jen was a coke addict and I don’t think there’s anything in Ian’s clue to suggest that. I think she may have used it at times but that’s just my opinion and it doesn’t make her an addict. Addicts don’t look healthy and they don’t do yoga which is a spiritual practice. Addicts are charlie sheen and lindsay lohan and others like them who are out of control or have lost their lives to drugs. That’s not jen. In the cut throat world of hollywood people have only nice things to say about her. She’s never said a bad word about anyone, not even brad when he dissed their marriage. She could have gone out and adopted kids or had them herself just to improve her image as other actresses have done but she didn’t do that. For someone who lives in a phony, crazy world I think she’s remarkably down to earth and normal. You said yourself when you met her that she has a light about her. I don’t think that’s changed. jmo for what it’s worth.

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  411. haki said on June 15th, 2012 at 8:41 pm

    Meantime Laimey is at it again comparing Brad and Jen’s European vacation photos from June 2004 to this one with Justin in June 2012. I can’t believe it has been 8 long years!!

    http://www.laineygossip.com/Articles/Details/23842

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  412. Dream said on June 15th, 2012 at 8:41 pm

    @Up the Coast:
    +1

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  413. Guest2 said on June 15th, 2012 at 8:43 pm

    @Guest2:

    Correction….she did say brad is missing a sensitivity chip but then that was just stating a fact.

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  414. Kate said on June 15th, 2012 at 8:46 pm

    @Up the Coast:
    Sometimes I guess it is better to just .or know anything about someone in file you admire. I will never forget how brother reacted when he found out JW was gay, you would have thought his world ended. lol.

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  415. Guest2 said on June 15th, 2012 at 8:52 pm

    @haki:
    Thanks for linking those pics. I don’t go to lainey’s site but I liked looking at the old photos. Brad looked good back then and I like jen’s hair better a little darker but she looks happier now.

    They’re never going to let go of this triangle.

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  416. iwasanon said on June 15th, 2012 at 8:53 pm

    @Up the Coast:
    Ditto. Well said Joanne & UTC.

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  417. payal said on June 15th, 2012 at 8:54 pm

    @Kate:
    why dont u just come out and say jen is a drug taker, she is not a good person and we are all fools to like her because lets face it thats what u are getting at…..im done with this whole thing, jen can rot in hell for all i care and i hope jolie succeeds in ruining her if thats what she wants, i just hope ian exposes jen as well

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  418. haki said on June 15th, 2012 at 8:55 pm

    I guess, in reality, one should not look up to these Hollywood types! I do think that Jen is one of the most down to earth ones though. About the only thing she said bad about Brad was that he was missing a sensitivity chip..I would have said much worse things! She went too easy on him imo! I hope what she has with Justin is real and that she really is happy! She seems to be!!

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  419. Up the Coast said on June 15th, 2012 at 8:57 pm

    @payal:
    I don’t believe this is the REAL payal…

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  420. joanne said on June 15th, 2012 at 9:02 pm

    @Kate:
    I have an inlaw who still won’t talk to me because I said JW was gay.

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  421. iwasanon said on June 15th, 2012 at 9:06 pm

    @Up the Coast:
    I agree.

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  422. iwasanon said on June 15th, 2012 at 9:08 pm

    @Kate:
    You lost me Kate, sorry. Are you saying we all have a little Rachael in us but we all grew up?

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  423. Kate said on June 15th, 2012 at 9:10 pm

    @joanne:
    Oh no. really, chuckling, sigh, well, he was such an Icon, can you imagine, it would be like telling telling all fans Barman and Robin are a couple . lol.

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  424. iwasanon said on June 15th, 2012 at 9:15 pm

    @Kate:
    I think I agree with you, LOL. In my book, anyone who can’t get through the day is an addict.

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  425. Up the Coast said on June 15th, 2012 at 9:18 pm

    @Guest2:
    I agree with that…

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  426. Kate said on June 15th, 2012 at 9:32 pm

    @iwasanon:
    Rotfl, oh my gosh, I am seriously batting out here. No. You guys may have been little Rachels, but I definitely was no little Rachel, I pushed the limits on everything as a teenager, and learned the hard way through many mistakes, but that is what it took for me to get to me. Mercy met me in the middle of it all. :) Jennifer is an Angel compared to what I put my parents through. I meant, you can’t look at someone and know , not possible.

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  427. Guest2 said on June 15th, 2012 at 9:36 pm

    @Up the Coast:
    I agree.

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  428. Up the Coast said on June 15th, 2012 at 9:55 pm

    @Kate:
    Barman and Robin??? :lol: your auto-correct is cracking me up!

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  429. Kate said on June 15th, 2012 at 10:05 pm

    @payal:
    Payal, I am sorry you are upset, that is not and is never my intention . You know IUC is not a fan board really, but rather a blog where Ian posts the info he gets in riddles, regardless of what it is. As far as I know, he has not ever said Jen is not a good person. If this was a fan board, and were not working a riddle, and he had not mentioned a couple of darker references , I would not have brought it up, but this is not the first time. This is what Amaryrillis meant when she said what she did. If someone can not work on a riddle, and look at all possibilites without someone getting angry , then there is no point at all to doing this, at all. Maybe this is a good time for me to take a break. Jennifer is a very sensitive issue, not for me, but she is for many. I am truly sorry you are upset. I don’t think Ian is trying to do anything but report, and nor am I. Try to have a nice weekend. I hope you will reconsider your feelings when you calm down. Jen is a good person Payal, no one had ever said otherwise.

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  430. iwasanon said on June 15th, 2012 at 10:22 pm

    @Kate:
    Oh, ok. LOL. No neither was I, that’s why I was questioning it.

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  431. Guest19 said on June 15th, 2012 at 11:24 pm

    Jennifer has admitted to doing pot, but at this point in time I doubt she is doing it. I also don’t think she has tried all the other drugs. Unlike most young people who started in Hollywood Jennifer might have been from a divorced family, but it seems to me like she was raised in family with values and therefore doesn’t seem like she was really a wild teenager to experiment with all of those things. She is also a very healthy person and even her friends have commented on her healthy regime. I think the only unhealthy thing she was practicing was smoking and she seems to have quit that. I don’t didn’t think that she is pure clean/saint and she herself doesn’t even potray that. She is just a good person who is very normal, but only happens to work in the hollyweird land. I have however been told she has a potty mouth….lol

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  432. P. Gold said on June 15th, 2012 at 11:28 pm

    @Guest19:

    Agree with your post. By the way, what is potty mouth?

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  433. liv4 said on June 15th, 2012 at 11:37 pm

    Kate: I would hate to see you take a break from helping with puzzles. We rely on your input so much. You and Rush suggest interesting paths for us to take in trying to solve these. And that is what the majority of us are here for, to solve the puzzles however they turn out. And unless Ian does give us a shout that we are going in the right direction, our guesses are simply speculation. Anyone that has posted with you knows you try to be impartial in your guesses. I too had started to feel bad when I had doubts about the true nature of the Jtx/JA romance and it upset a few people until I realized I had no bias when it came to clues and guesses. Guesses are just guesses. My biggest satisfaction from this is when something happens and we look back and see where Ian had tried to lead us or we got things right. Please reconsider not posting for awhile so no one is upset. Let this be what it is intended, a place of entertainment and puzzle solving and a gathering place for ideas.

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  434. haki said on June 15th, 2012 at 11:45 pm

    Kate, don’t take a break! We appreciate your posts. It’s just that some of us are a bit sensitive when it comes to Jen! I, for one, always enjoy reading your input.

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  435. Guest19 said on June 16th, 2012 at 12:17 am

    @P.Gold a potty mouth is someone who uses curse words often/a lot..lol. Besides her being that she is also very friendly and always says hi to strangers and always says thank you when complimented . Yeah my bff has met her while she was filming in Atlantic City. The fool in me decided it was good day to sleep in and missed the opportunity to meet her…lol

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  436. P. Gold said on June 16th, 2012 at 1:10 am

    @Guest19:

    Thanks Guest19. I guess she’s just human like us.

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  437. siska said on June 16th, 2012 at 7:10 am

    ok. II think we took this stuff way too serious,,common.,it’s just silly riddle..to entertain us,,no one should make the star as a perfect idol..they only human..anyway..we should always agree to disagree..
    So for PayPal and Kate..don’t go…we need all your input..

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  438. siska said on June 16th, 2012 at 7:11 am

    Oops sorry payal..the auto correction kept want to change your name..

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  439. siska said on June 16th, 2012 at 7:14 am

    Anyone has any take on the recent pictures of jusjen in Rome?.,Jen seem really curvy..and she walk ahead of Justin..they also not hugging or holding hand much. Lover feud?..long travel can make you moody..specially if she still in the quitting smoke withdrew..
    So I hope new pictures will be more happy one.

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  440. siska said on June 16th, 2012 at 7:16 am

    If this relation still on till next year..I have more faith on this relation strength..I really hope Jen not doing the clooney style…

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  441. Guest2 said on June 16th, 2012 at 8:11 am

    @Kate:
    Kate, I now understand why you are sometimes hesitant to post your thoughts on certain things. I like jen as much as anyone here but I understand that she is human like the rest of us. Let’s give the woman a break and let her live her life without putting her on a pedestal. I hope you don’t take a break and continue to work these riddles with us. I’m not good with them and without you and rush and the others I wouldn’t be able to figure anything out. And I very much appreciate it when you ask Ian to clear things up. Liv4 said “Let this be what it is intended, a place of entertainment and puzzle solving and a gathering place for ideas.” I totally agree with her.

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  442. Guest2 said on June 16th, 2012 at 8:42 am

    @siska:
    Hi Siska, if I was eating and drinking my way through paris and rome I’d be more than curvy :) I think they look a little strained in rome, maybe having her vacation with the paps is starting to get on her nerves. What do you think of this very public vacation? She’s so good at hiding from the paps that it makes me wonder why she isn’t doing it on her vacation.

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  443. Tetta said on June 16th, 2012 at 9:08 am

    @Guest2:
    Maybe Rushdog is right. They do this trip for a reason. Yesterday Kate gave us a hint about Ovenshaker restaurant and their menu. I don´t remember the clue but why did we miss the obvious ? Bottle and shaker. Does Jen already have a child, with help of a surrogate ? In some way that question has been in the air for almost a year.

    And what could be shocking ? Photos on the computer with a really drunk or high Jennifer ?
    The worst I can think of are photos of Brad and Jennifer having steamy sex after the diverse.
    That would lead Jennifer to be both busted and disgusted. And us too. Could that be the reason to J&J´s vacation. They want us to think this was long ago and now Jennifer is happy in love with Justin and has never been happier. I hope there is something else but photos of Jen and Brad could be shocking and disgusting.

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  444. Brown Sugar said on June 16th, 2012 at 11:03 am

    Laughing out real loud. You delusional Heffas (Looking at you TETTA) as if Brad the man Pitt would touch that Fugly Fabio with a ten foot pole, after she have been pissed and shit upon by John mayer. is real funny. Brad is leaving that “STEAMY HOT SEX’ for his true LOVE the Beautiful Ms Anjelina Jolie the mother of his children. Now get a life and get drunk on ” DUMBWATER “

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  445. Tetta said on June 16th, 2012 at 11:24 am

    @Brown Sugar:

    You are as nice as always. I thought Ian had blocked you. But when you use this kind of langue I don´t take you seriously. You sound like a five year old child trying to learn some bad words.

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  446. joanne said on June 16th, 2012 at 12:03 pm

    Didn’t Pitt MARRY Aniston? Didn’t Pitt give Jolie a promise ring because thats what the kids wanted. Promise ring? After 6 kids? Are they teen agers? :lol: :lol:
    Love ya Tetta!

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  447. Tetta said on June 16th, 2012 at 12:08 pm

    @joanne:

    Dito ! :lol: :lol:

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  448. Up the Coast said on June 16th, 2012 at 12:23 pm

    @Tetta:
    Considering the source….it’s almost a compliment! :lol:

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  449. Up the Coast said on June 16th, 2012 at 12:31 pm

    I still don’t believe that was the REAL payal. I just can’t see her talking to Kate like that, so I hope the REAL payal comes around soon and clears this up. Jen is a grown woman, not a child…and she’s never claimed to be a saint, so I don’t understand what the big deal is.

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  450. joanne said on June 16th, 2012 at 12:36 pm

    @Up the Coast:
    me either. I hope its not the real payal.

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  451. Tetta said on June 16th, 2012 at 12:54 pm

    Just a thought. As I often do I read some comments from yesterday when I come here. Since most of you lives in the US it´s natural that your comments flow after your work. Then it´s late night in Sweden I often miss some comments. Here is a general question or statement that I direct to all of you.

    Of course we should be allowed to argue with each other on a blog. It should be very boring if we all thought the same and here at IUC we need different opinions to get through Ian´s clues.
    But different blogs use different languages. FF and JJ use in my opinion, a language that is boring and tiresome. Here at IUC we have a normal conversation level when we exchanges our points of view. It seems like most of us enjoy this use of the language. So when BS suddenly comes here without a real comment but just a lot of bad words it doesn´t feel god. I also saw Kate responding to Payal that we all are allowed to different opinions. Kate named Amary Ellis as example. But she also expressed herself in a way a bit out of limit. She said: “Jeez Louise – either Jen has a serious medical condition that causes her to slur her speech, or she is a drunk. This isn’t the first time she’s showed up this way at an awards show. I am getting so sick and tired of celebrities who can’t seem to stay straight and sober for a couple of hours at an honor event ” Some of us disagreed and AE said she was going to leave if we couldn´t have different opinions. I don´t think there was different opinions that was disturbing. If she had said what she meant in a not so aggressive way we had continued with our comments. I asked her to stay as I think she as a long time blogger should know she puts the level on the comments with her own input. My point is, after much rantings, it´s perfectly ok to argue, but the comments ought to be at the same level as the comments on the rest of the board. So, let´s keep on arguing !

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  452. Dream said on June 16th, 2012 at 1:02 pm

    @Tetta:
    i have said almost the same thing too. if u come here in non aggressive way we will be happy to discuss anything. good or bad. from what i can see liz e has never felt the need to cousin her thoughts but she does not attack. i enjoy her posts they give me pause to rethink some of my knee jerk opinions.
    i just ignore anyone that wants to yell like a child instead of talk like an adult. scroll thru the unproductive posts and things are much nicer.
    tetta u are a voice of reason all the time. u express what i feel so much better than do i.

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  453. Tetta said on June 16th, 2012 at 1:03 pm

    @joanne:

    Now I´m confused. On my computer BS wrote a nasty comment. What about the real Payal ? Have I missed something in the earlier comments ? It´s a lot of thunder in the air so my brain works slower than usual :)

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  455. Pattyanne said on June 16th, 2012 at 1:30 pm

    Exactly what I’m wondering also. Remember the NYC daily pap parade? That was so very unlike Jennifer. It’s almost as if these outings are to make a statement…to someone.@Guest2:

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  456. Pattyanne said on June 16th, 2012 at 1:36 pm

    Ditto from me on that as well. It’s too easy to get caught up in one’s emotions when following a celebrity’s life, just look at Brown Sugar and her behavior. She reacts violently and crassly because she believes everything she reads about her false idol. BUT, we all need to remember that no one of us truly knows any of these celebrities, we only know what they want us to know and the personal attributes we credit them with can also be a created part of their professional personna. For the most part we have formed a friendship of sorts with one another over the years posting on IUC. Respect and tolerance for one another and a respect for individual’s personal opinions are a must if we are to continue this way. So lets all take a deep breath and remember who we are outside of celebrity gossiping and puzzle solving, and keep our relationships as decent, respectful human beings going. PAX to all, yes, even you Brown Sugar.@Guest2:

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  457. Pattyanne said on June 16th, 2012 at 1:38 pm

    BTW, my name is showing not as Patty Anne, but as Pattyanne because I logged on this time. Also, as to Payal not being THE Payal: When anyone posts here, or on any blog for that matter, their IP address shows up for the administration to see. It gives the location of the computer being used which indicates pretty well who is using each nic. If Payal weren’t the Payal we know, Ian would be aware of this. @Pattyanne:

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  458. Pattyanne said on June 16th, 2012 at 1:45 pm

    Ah, Brad’s love of his life? Who has three so called bio children by him yet he still will not marry the Heffa? In fact after she made the jeweler she works with put out a faux press release about her receiving an engagement (gag) ring from her Baby-Daddy, Brad denied it in the press. No Wedding Plans, “It’s simply a promise for THE ( not our) future”….got it? Heffa.@Brown Sugar:

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  459. joanne said on June 16th, 2012 at 1:48 pm

    @Tetta:
    It was referring to this @payal:

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  460. Tetta said on June 16th, 2012 at 2:03 pm

    @joanne:

    It´s an unusual comment, I agree. I don´t think anyone could be so affected by an idols doings. Perhaps someone tries to fool us and se how much we will support Jennifer.

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  461. Guest2 said on June 16th, 2012 at 3:21 pm

    @Tetta:
    It doesn’t sound like the payal I’ve seen for the last year and a half who is usually very sweet and I can’t imagine her wishing jen to rot in hell just because she thinks she ’s a coke addict (no one said that). That’s why I thought it might not be her. But her comment to friends makes me think it could be her. I remember when she met jen at a London premiere last year she wrote about it and she was very articulate about expressing her feelings, same as with the post to kate. Payal is young and disillusioned right now, whereas we are older and take it more stride.

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  462. Guest2 said on June 16th, 2012 at 3:23 pm

    Brown sugar is nothing but a big pile of smelly dog poop. If you saw it on the street you’d hold your nose and walk around it. I suggest we treat it like the dog sh*t it is and hope that Ian finds a way to ban it permanently.

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  463. Guest2 said on June 16th, 2012 at 3:24 pm

    @Guest2:
    though heffa was pretty funny.

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  464. Guest2 said on June 16th, 2012 at 3:28 pm

    @Pattyanne:
    Something is going on, I can’t believe it has anything to do ROA or the wanderlust dvd. Ellen and Portia are in Italy too. They were papped in Sorrento (I think).

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  465. Guest2 said on June 16th, 2012 at 3:29 pm

    @Guest2:
    I meant pattyanne’s use of heffa.

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  466. WTF said on June 16th, 2012 at 3:29 pm

    @Tetta:
    i think it was Payal – she seems very innocent about the ways of the hollywood world. I think she has a child like obsession and has Jennifer on a pedestal so to hear anything negative just shattered her illusion. she reminds me of my 13 yr old niece with Miley Cyrus

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  467. Guest said on June 16th, 2012 at 3:46 pm

    @elephant:
    Interesting information! From what you said, if we assume your source to be accurate, it fits with the idea that Jen’s about 9-10 weeks along…which also fits with that blind item from May 11th that seemed to point to her and said the celeb was around 5 weeks along. If your source works with fitting of clothing, that makes sense that she would know about a pregnancy back a month ago (again assuming this is accurate) because Jen had those red carpet events last week (MTV Awards, the Shirley MacLaine award, and the ROA premiere), so would have needed to have outfits for each. I could see her keeping a pregnancy really quiet until she absolutely couldn’t anymore to almost everyone, but her job makes it necessary for her to have fittings and she wouldn’t be able to keep it quiet from those people I guess. I’ve heard people who are involved in that line of work can tell really early when a woman is pregnant, so it’s possible your source is accurate. Plus, it she is only 9-10 weeks along, her current figure fits with that too. She doesn’t have a ‘bump’ and I wouldn’t expect her to, but her boobs do look bigger and she looks a little thicker in the waist and hips…like she’s losing her waist a bit (which is often the first thing to go when pregnant) in most photos we’ve seen of her recently. I’ve noticed her tops seem a bit too short and small all of a sudden, but I don’t think she’s gained weight all over.

    The thing is every woman carries differently, so it’s impossible to know for sure right now. Some women hardly show at all for months, and Jen’s got pretty toned abs that might take longer to loosen into bump. I go back and forth on whether I think she is: I think it’s possible, but I also think it’s just as likely that she isn’t.

    @Tetta:
    To fit what I’ve just said above with your “bonding” theory…if we assume she’s pregnant, maybe bonded means she’s past the 8 week mark and they are bonded with an unborn child (maybe her previous pregnancies didn’t last this long…does anyone know about the timing of her miscarriages?). Maybe they are finally bonded with the pregnancy because she feels more relaxed with it, or it feels more real to her because she’s made it longer than before?

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  468. Tetta said on June 16th, 2012 at 3:47 pm

    In Sweden Heffa is something admirably. It´s an annual award, a Heffa statyette, given to an author who has written the best book for children and youths. So I don´t mind Heffa !

    And Payal, if she returns, needs some guiding into the grown up world. At the same time I can´t help thinking somebody is fooling us when I read an odd comment.

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  469. Tetta said on June 16th, 2012 at 3:56 pm

    @Guest:

    This is why the information is so hard to understand – every bit of the clue could be either in this way or either in that way. :)

    But your reflection about someone who works with clothes for movies is the first one to notice a pregnancy is correct.

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  470. jansa said on June 16th, 2012 at 4:29 pm

    hi yes i am sure jen tried all sorts of things and so did most of us when we where young and stupid. but if u look at her today there is no way that she is using a hardcore drug she is to healthy looking and even for a occasional user she would not look this good as the older u get the more it affects ur looks and health.
    we where all young and i would never condemn a person that tried it as it was the norm that time but most of us stopped as we get older and wiser. it is also wrong to say all in hw are mostly using as most of the older crowd in their 30 look good for there age and have healthy bodies as for alcohol a glass of wine or two is quite healthy for those that enjoy wine although i get high on one glass of red wine and have a terrible headache the next day so i do not touch it anymore and now i very seldom have a drink as i just cannot be bothered . so payal just remember we are all foolish when young and did things for a kick but most normal and healthy people stop and re-evaluate their lives and decide to living healthier and happier lives which i am sure ja did as well.

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  471. payal said on June 16th, 2012 at 4:41 pm

    hey folks, it is me but your right its not the REAL me. I want to sincerely apologize to everyone but especially Kate, i feel embarrassed but just know i meant nothing personal to any of you. for a while alot has been weighing on my mind especially to do with my degree and the complications with my exams and also it is my time of the month lol but i dont want to make any excuses. what i wrote, i wrote in anger and upset because usually when i am stressed about something or feeling down, what i go to is jennifer aniston, either watching friends or her movies or her interviews. so coming here ive had to second guess what jen is really like. you guys are correct because another reason i was mad is also because at myself for getting sooooo involved in a celebrity which is ridiculous. but im not stupid!! i know jen lives in hollywood and i know i dont what she does every minute of everyday but i guess im finding it difficult to reconcile the jen we’ve all known and love might not be the real jen and that even with her secrets she still is that jen, i dont want that to be mutually exclusive and i just went beyond OTT calling her a horrible human being. i guess i do need all your help and wisdom in making me a bit more open minded.

    please Kate come back, its not the same without you here, this board needs you!! i profusely apologize to you, Ian and everyone else and whatever you both know about jen, please just tell us because i keep thinking the worst so if i know the whole story i can be sure of whether or not i want to be fan of hers anymore. ill probably come back 100% in posts where its to do with brangelina and not jen however.

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  472. Guest said on June 16th, 2012 at 5:04 pm

    I have to comment to the several of you who have questioned or suggested that Jen and Justin are on some PR tour or that their time in NY had a PR reason to it as well. There are certainly times where celebs call paps and use the publicity to help themselves (currently think lower level celebs like Leann Rimes, a few years back more higher up celebs might have fit here too, but not anymore with the amount of celeb sites/blogs and magazines that are looking for pictures and gossip). There are also times where celebs knowingly go out or to places where there are paps in order to get snapped (think Pitt and Jolie and their January 2011 PR stroll in NOLA with the kids…they could have sent an aid to the corner store, but instead took all 6 kids out knowing they would get photographed). But there are also those celebs who do not need to call the paps though…the ones who are big enough ‘gets’ for the paps that they are followed, and the paps wait outside their homes for.

    This latter category is the one in which both Jen and Brad/Jolie fall into the majority of the time. None of the triangle needs to call paps to take pictures of them, nor can they hide out (for the most part) if venturing out in public. The reason is that their pictures are worth enough that a pap is not going to leave them alone. Now, this doesn’t mean they can’t ever hide out. We’ve seen that Jen and Justin, when in LA for example, are able to hide out well: they don’t go out in public much and when they do they use a blacked-out car and try and use back doors/covered garages, have their car pull right up to the door and security block shots, etc. But they are still constantly followed, as evidenced by x17 reporting on its own stalking of them, even when they can’t get pictures because it’s illegal to snap a celeb on private property in LA (a couple of times recently they noted Jen and Justin’s activities even though they had no photos because the activities were on private property…a visit to RDJ’s home and Justin being spotted outside their rental home). In NY they could not hide from the paps because they had no private entrance to her building, nor are there many stores or restaurants that do either. So them leaving their building and getting papped wasn’t about wanting their pictures taken, it was because they had to leave the building and there were paps staking out the place 24/7. This was the majority of the photos taken of them in NY: entering/exiting a building. I will say that the couple of times they strolled their neighborhood, they surely did so knowing they were getting papped, and perhaps liking that the “happy couple” image that was getting taken came at a good time given Pitt’s Parade interview (so this is an instance of them fitting into my category 2 of pap shots). At the same time though, maybe they just wanted to stroll their neighborhood, you know? It’s not out of the question that they were just living their lives and trying their best to ignore the paps. When it became overwhelming we saw they quickly sold the apartments there, so it’s not like they enjoyed that attention.

    This European trip is the same thing. She has been saying for years that she wants to travel more. There are some people that complain about her traveling to Mexico or Hawaii all the time, but it’s pretty easy to see after this week why she would do that: even if she gets papped and followed in those places (which she does), it’s mostly through a long lense camera off-shore and not with paps in her face and following her every move (because she stays the whole time on a private residence or suite). There was absolutely nothing they could do to be more private then they’ve been on this trip. She had to fly commercial to Europe, which meant that the paps at LAX (they are always there) caught them arriving and could tip off paps in France to their arrival there. They were then followed by the paps from the airport to their hotel, and according to People, even switched hotels…which was probably an effort to try and sneak away from and fool photographers. The paps caught them and then staked out their hotel, and followed them on motorcycles to and from every stop they made getting pictures. It is her life. Could they have not gone out? Sure (and they actually did stay in some nights/days), but then what would have been the point of going to Paris? Should she not be able to go to Paris or Rome? Should it be assumed to be PR just because she wants to? I think she has just decided to live her life and hide out where possible, but still do the things she wants (in this case visit Paris, Rome) and not care if people are going to take her picture.

    And on that note, it is ridiculous the level of reading in that people do to these pictures (and I say that whether they are of her and Justin or Pitt and Jolie). If in a set of photos you can’t find one where the people look neutral or happy, then maybe you might have an argument that there is room to photo-assume something to be wrong. But, if a set of pictures has mostly neutral or normal faces and behavior, or happy ones (or a combo of the two), then there is no reason to focus on the neutral or normal photos and think something’s up. It has to be incredibly weird to travel with 2 bodyguards, and a pack of paps in tow…I don’t blame them for not smiling all the time. However, even in the Rome photos there are plenty where they are smiling, none where either is looking upset or angry, and a few where they are holding hands. Isn’t this how a normal couple would act on a sightseeing trip to the Vatican? It’s not like walking around with a huge grin all the time and arms around one another while being escorted by bodyguards, Vatican security and a tour guide would be normal behavior either. I just think sometimes these celebs can’t win.

    Also, this whole drug talk about either Jen and Justin is much based on gossip and assumption. Do I think Jen might have tried Coke at some point: it’s certainly possible and probably even likely because I’m sure she had easy access, and who doesn’t experiment in youth. But do I think she did it regularly or to excess: no. On top of always being noted for her professionalism, her good friend and hair guy Chris McMillan wrote an article for Allure magazine a few years ago about his past abuse of Coke in the late 1990s, and having to go to rehab and he noted how she (and a few other friends) were very instrumental in helping support him getting clean and then get back on his feet professionally after. She also lived through Matthew Perry’s substance issues on Friends. So, she’s had people close to her who have had issues and are in recovery. If she was, then or now, regularly using herself, she would not be able to continue a close personal relationship with these people or continue to be considered as professional and healthy as she is. And the reports about Justin having pat issues came from a tabloid. He was actually “clean edge” in his younger years, meaning he didn’t partake in any substances. There is nothing credible to suggest that he has had a past substance issue.

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  473. Tetta said on June 16th, 2012 at 5:17 pm

    @payal:

    To be honest and be able to forgive are two very valuable things. You have a solid ground on your way in life. I´m sure Kate will forgive you if she got offended.

    As Jansa said, I don´t think Jennifer is addicted to any narcotic today. as every one else have said, she looks too healthy for that. i understand what you feel for Friends. I followed each episode as it reminded me so much of a special time in my life. At that time me and my friends found a reason for party almost every day. But we grow up and began to work. After that it was family and kids. I meet my friends a couple of times a year and we are grateful none of us became alcoholists. Today am like Jansa, one glass wine and then headache. But I look back at this time because beside studies I always had fun. I hope you will have some years in your life that you just enjoy and don´t feel guilty about it. And I don´t mean you have to drink alcohol !
    :)

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  474. guest 3 said on June 16th, 2012 at 5:33 pm

    I’m sorry if you thought Jen was snow white but the reality she’s a user and she hangs out with users (CH). One of ex’s PS said he couldn’t continue dating her because he was a former user and and didn’t want go down that path again. Why would he say that unless she would cause him to start using drugs again.
    I wouldn’t be shocked if IAN wasn’t writing a book about JA and her major drug/alcohol issues. Now that would be a best seller since she sold herself as the girl next door/or the girl done wrong by the HW hunk.
    Although, I don’t think that would happen right now since she still has the money to pay her PR guru Huvane to keep all that undercover.

    Now that’s a book I would buy.. I’m not even a fan. It would make her more exciting to know that she was toking , snorting and boning other actors.

    See the Unauthorized books about Angie didn’t sell because she told everyone the truth about her life. Same with Oprah…

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  475. Kate said on June 16th, 2012 at 5:35 pm

    @payal:
    Hi payal, you do not need to apologize to me, but I am happy to see you hear as I worried about you last night and this morning. It is really refreshing to see someone that still has that innocence, there are very few young women that do. Hold on to that Payal. It will be gone soon enough. :) The ways of the world will educate you before you are ready. It is troublesome to me to see little girls at the age of 8 years old swooning over Justin B, when they should still be outside playing or reading a book , with history, and culture, or a something that challenges their mind . You are coming into your own in an entirely different time than many of us did, than even Jen did. I won’t you to remember one thing, if nothing else, she married Brad Pitt. Remember that, remember how old he was , what his experiences were, and who he was at the time and where he had been and what he had experienced. Jen and Brad were united as one during that time, they were the golden couple during that time. She lived and breathed him. :) Someone like you, with your ethics and morals, would have not even looked at him or gone out with him. I am not putting down Jen or Brad, but pointing out, they live in a completely different world than the average person. I also have met Jennifer, and Brad. I understand how much you adore her, nothing changes because she has lived her life. ;)

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  476. Kate said on June 16th, 2012 at 5:37 pm

    @liv4:
    Thanks Liv, I just felt we needed time to let things calm down. I was very concerned about Payal, and I understood very clearly she was extremely upset. Sometimes it is better to just step back and take a breath. I was not upset or offended in any way, just concerned, but thank you for your support.

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  477. Guest said on June 16th, 2012 at 5:45 pm

    @guest 3:
    What hasn’t Jen told about her life? She’s always been open about enjoying a drink and a toke. There is no evidence she’s a hard core user beyond simple experimentation, so why would she ben admitting to that?

    PS never said that about her…that’s a tabloid invented story and had nothing to do with why they split. She dumped him as was evident when he was approached by TMZ within the last year and asked about her. It was clear he still thought of her and wished they were a couple…he even agreed that they would have had gorgeous children.

    And Handler is upfront about her past drug and alcohol use. She actually still insinuates that she parties hard when in reality that is less and less so. There are times when she does party, and she enjoys a cocktail regularly, but she isn’t an abuser and hasn’t been for some time. It’s part of her schtick/persona, but not her reality anymore as the head of a corporation producing several shows, books and supporting many employees.

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  478. Pattyanne said on June 16th, 2012 at 5:49 pm

    Kate is one of the gentlest, kindest and most understanding persons I’ve ever known. Don’t fret Payal, I’m sure she will return. We all have bad days and at times behave in a way we wish we could erase, but it’s a part of being a human being, and developing into a well rounded adult. Learning experiences teach us what works and what doesn’t. ‘Nuff said. My granddaughter just graduated from studies to be what I believe you are going for, so I know it’s a hard course. You’ll do just fine and one day have your “paper” to hang on a wall. Glad you are feeling better now. BUT, please, next time…..lol….take a deep breath and ask how much relevance you can give to that over the greater span of your lifetime…wink!!!@payal:

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  479. joanne said on June 16th, 2012 at 5:52 pm

    @guest 3:
    Thank you, I needed a good laugh. :lol:
    Not laughing at you but with you? :lol:

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  480. jansa said on June 16th, 2012 at 5:53 pm

    guest 3: please ps said he could not hang out with her not because of drugs but because of the alcohol and the parties which she attends now and again. and because of your bitterness towards a ex WIFE of peepaw you would love to have people think she is a user. jolie may not be using now as her thinness might be caused by stress and unhappiness as i have a weight problem and it is caused by stress and not by drugs and but that does not excuse jolie for the disgusting photos of her using drugs with tape over her boobs as that points to more than a casual user that she was so uninhibited that somebody could take those disgusting photos of her. and yet she has never got help and as for peepaw his friends openly talked about him using hash just a year or so ago and that is also addictive and cannot be left with out help.
    so take your bitter hate of the ex and pray about it as it will cause you to have a very sad life. i am sorry if you had a boyfriend that would not leave his wife or he did and then returned to her. if that is what happened to you i am sorry. but peepaw must of loved jen enough to marry her then without a ring for the future and there was also a article about their marriage that before the wedding she was not sure she wanted to get married but he was the one that wanted to get married and not just live together. do not ask me for a link as i am sure u are old enough to look for it yourselfjmo

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  481. Kate said on June 16th, 2012 at 6:02 pm

    @guest 3:

    Ian is more likely to expose the real reason for the promise ring. Last year in the first week of June he posted a riddle , and the reason, sickening that they are getting away with such a fraud, a wedding to increase their net worth, that has nothing to do with love, they live separate lives. That is not my interpretation btw. That one is solved. June 7. However, he will would be completely honest about Jen, but as he was to Brangelina in his book, he always tries to find the good to outweigh the negative. Ian likes to save his subjects, much like Morton did, although I would say that no longer applies to Brange. Just a feeling. ;) and that is my interpretation. lol Ian has a huge heart!

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  482. Tetta said on June 16th, 2012 at 6:02 pm

    @payal:

    An advice, to get rid of bad mood before your period, try vitamine B6. To me it´s a miracle and it has no sideeffects.

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  483. guest 3 said on June 16th, 2012 at 6:58 pm

    @Guest
    CH said her past cocaine/alcohol use?.. she talks about drinking vodka on every show. And she recently devulge having an abortion at 16 years old… I’m not hating about that.. but like I said I would buy the book on Jen toking, snorting, and banging… It would make her more interesting.

    Is Ian setting you up for the next unauthorize bio on Jen??? Now that would be a bestseller. Come on if she ever came clean and talk about the dark side she would gain more fans.. But this pretend I’m good, clean, don’t do drugs, I’m only about hair, make-up and keeping my body in shape . zzzzzzzz. She’s a snorefest. That’s cute when you’re in 20’s.. but mid-40’s …Come on.

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  484. Guest2 said on June 16th, 2012 at 7:08 pm

    @payal:
    Payal, the most important thing you need to know about jen is that when you were standing there waiting for a glimpse of her she came over and gave you a hug when you asked, if I remember that correctly. She’s a famous movie star and could easily have ignored you but she didn’t and that says more to me about her character and kindness than anything else. That’s the real jen, whatever other facts come out about her. With that knowledge and the B6 you’ll be just fine (once your exams are over).

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  485. Kate said on June 16th, 2012 at 8:31 pm

    @Guest2:
    Amen , I like to believe there is good in everyone. Including Brangelina.

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  486. Guest2 said on June 16th, 2012 at 9:24 pm

    @Kate:
    Hi kate, glad you came back. Speaking of brangie they sure have been quiet lately. We’ve hardly seen angie and we briefly saw a dirty brad in Germany.

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  487. iwasanon said on June 16th, 2012 at 10:27 pm

    @guest 3:
    That’s funny. Because then he went on to date CD who’s a bigger partier, LOL. Must have been a fax from Jolie to the NE.

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  488. Kate said on June 16th, 2012 at 10:36 pm

    lol I read Boho’s commentary on that, pretty funny, but I don’t think too accurate. If you look at the earlier photos his hair is lighter, and dry. In the more recent it looks wet to me, not oily, his clothes are fresh, and for a change, they actually fit him. I got so tired of those baggy pants he was wearing. I also noticed he was wearing a different gold charm, instead of posturing his normal ones. I could not tell if he still had on that promo ring he wears every time he is promoting a film. lol. as for the shoes, not a big deal to me, I would find it odd if they were spotless I guess. That would seem a little to prissy.

    Now as for the PR shots that you guys were discussing earlier in regards to Jen and Justin. I know they are on vacation, but it is not as though they have not traveled. I have wonder, how many here have been to those cities a few times, say at least three, would go to one of the most traveled tourist spots. It is equal to someone from France who wants to maintain a little privacy coming to New York and heading to the Top of the Rick or the Empire State Building. I know they went to dinner, but Paris is a lovely city with many many wonderful restaurants that one can dine in without anyone bothering them. These two can remain hidden for a long time, and then suddenly we see them there? Then Rome? I can see why some question that. If Jen wants a vacation , in my mind, that is not what she would choose. There are some incredibly wonderful places in France and Italy to visit, so to go back to the same places, nah. Her friends chose a nice area. Beautiful there. I never get tired of Paris, I have been to Rome enough I don’t care to keep going back, just always seems to be on my way. but to choose that destination? I can’t see that myself. Jen has the worlds canvas at her fingertips, and when she and Brad were dating, they ran from the paps, and hid while in Europe.

    Lainey and her comparisons were interesting. She has been nice to Jen lately, she seems to like Justin. I thought she made a good point thought, just 7 months later, and they were done. I hope Jen is happy, I can’t imagine why Justin would agree to the pap parade as much as he appears to not like the paps. Are they being groomed to be the next Brangelina? Our tabs always need someone. I hope not.

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  489. Kate said on June 16th, 2012 at 10:44 pm

    @rushdog:
    Rush there is a scene in It’s Complicated where the potential boyfriend says, “It’s not a great time to feel groovy when your ex comes along.” something like that. Steve Martin’s character pulls away from her when he realizes she still has feelings for her ex, but leaves it as, if you figure it out, I’m here. I am not watching that film again for this riddle, lol. I believe Streep and Baldwin toked together. The song though, by Daniel May, is what I find interesting in the fact he does other music that is linked to the book, “Tao” , and some of the songs are sold on the page with the that book, on amazon. I don’t know if Ian is really pointing at an affair, or just that Jen living a more spiritual path now. That all seems to fit together. Possibly that is to prepare for motherhood.

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  490. Kate said on June 16th, 2012 at 10:46 pm

    @iwasanon:
    Do you think they were the real deal? CD is out as bisexual.

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  491. Kate said on June 16th, 2012 at 10:48 pm

    @Kate:
    meant Top of the Rock, long day.

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  492. Kate said on June 16th, 2012 at 11:28 pm

    @rushdog:
    I think I see where you are going with this. I had forgotten that in “Just Go With It” Katherine (JA) was not just Danny’s assistant, she was his best friend.Here is the basic description of the film.

    On a weekend trip to Hawaii, a plastic surgeon convinces his loyal assistant to pose as his soon-to-be-divorced wife in order to cover up a careless lie he told to his much-younger girlfriend.

    So maybe this is not about Jen and Justin, but rather Jennifer agreeing to help Brad out of a jam because he lied to Angelina .Also in JGWI, Danny is caught off guard by Brooke when she proposes to him, and then Katherine is sort of blindsided by it. He reluctantly agrees to it. In the end of course, he does not marry her and he ends up with Katherine. (not saying that is the case here, but I thought the engagement reference was interesting.

    Derailed- Derailed-When two married business executives having an affair are blackmailed by a violent criminal, the two must turn the tables on him to save their families.

    Are you saying then here, that they had an affair, (you referenced the It’s Complicated) and now they are being blackmailed? That would make sense, and that would be shocking to many.

    Picture Perfect-
    Kate is working on a career at Mercer Advertising but is passed up for promotion because she’s ‘not stable enough’, still being single and having no ties to the company. A story is made up about her being engaged to Nick, a guy whom she just met at a friend’s wedding, and all seems to work out well for Kate. She even gets the attention of a colleague she had always wanted, but events soon take a dramatic turn, forcing her to ‘present’ her alleged fiance to her boss.

    In this one , you are referencing Justin, correct, he was brought in, to help stabilize things. Maybe in the beginning she did not expect it to go so public, but it did, and now it has become a good relationship so that has ended well, but it has not fixed the problem of blackmail?

    The Joke is on You, what if that is not us, as fans, but meant towards one of the parties involved. Angelina maybe? It does not seem to fit towards us because it is contradictory to “singing to the choir”.

    Jen’s booty dress could be fancy dress, wedding dress, and the oven and shaker could be IVF and baby, and if it is not in regards to Justin, then the joke could be on someone.

    en’s booty dress-fancy dress-wedding-diva
    …giving to the poor-charitble
    …living the wisdom of the tao-spiritual
    …grooving in the garden-its complicated
    …like a star wiz-no one knows the star behind the star
    …oven and shaker menu-pregnant or has a baby
    …midnight express calls to ex-calling Brad urgently
    …fix heated phone-fix the problem
    …tapping into the emotional void-the joke is on you! (who?)

    So I can see how this covers the odd relationship with her ex, fauxromance in the beginning with Justin, and now grooving and in love with Justin. I just do not see the last clue. I don’t think there are any dirty pictures or videos. I think it has to do with, mystery baby mama. How would she have covered for Brad?

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  493. Guest1 said on June 16th, 2012 at 11:29 pm

    It’s too late for my brain to think. Who is CD?

    Payal, nice to see you back!

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  494. Up the Coast said on June 16th, 2012 at 11:33 pm

    @joanne:
    I’m laughing AT her :) (she sounds like someone we already know).

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  495. Guest said on June 16th, 2012 at 11:40 pm

    @Kate:
    As far as I know Jen has never been to the Eiffel Tower or the Vatican. I know that may seem strange, but for the most part when she’s been in those cities it’s been just a couple of days at most and for work promotion. Besides, she went to a different restaurant on another night in Paris and still got papped. As I said before, it is clear from the photos and videos that the paps are waiting outside their hotels and following them…so they are going to get snapped either way…whether they had gone to any number of other top Parisian restaurants or the one they did go to. Perhaps they chose the Tower so that she could see it and they could enjoy the spectacular view during dinner…something none of these other restaurants can offer.

    You say it isn’t what she would choose for a vacation and then say her friends chose a nicer place. I’m assuming you are meaning Clooney and Degenerous/Rossi? If so, they’ve all been papped multiple times on their Italian vacations too, so what would have been the difference if Jennifer had gone to those parts of Italy? She’s a bigger pap get then they are, so surely would have still found herself battling the paps there too. And just because you don’t think much of Rome doesn’t mean she hasn’t wanted to see certain sights there. You also say how she and Brad ran from the paps when in Europe…funny I don’t see how they acted any different then she and Theroux are acting now. There were plenty of photos of she and Brad in Europe dining, shopping, etc.

    I’m not saying that the photos from this trip aren’t mostly favorable to her (the one concern as always is over saturation with her since the demand is almost insatiable from the blogs and media). But that still doesn’t mean this trip is about anything other than a vacation for them. She hasn’t gone anywhere outside of a private rental property or resort in Mexico/Hawaii in years. Surely she is allowed to take a trip with her serious boyfriend just because and not have it assumed to be some conspiracy. I get that everyone likes to think there’s always something behind everything, but sometimes the simplest and most logical answer is in fact the correct one. Not everything is a conspiracy theory.

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  496. Pattyanne said on June 16th, 2012 at 11:57 pm

    Cameron Diaz@Guest1:

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  497. P. Gold said on June 17th, 2012 at 12:13 am

    @Guest:

    Bravo, I love it when someone comes here to correct things for us and not let us keep wondering, twisting and suspecting every moves Jen makes.

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  498. Kate said on June 17th, 2012 at 1:20 am

    @P. Gold:
    Hi Plucky, nice to hear things are going well with your daughter. I’m confused, what is being corrected? and for who? What do you mean?

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  499. Kate said on June 17th, 2012 at 1:36 am

    @Guest:
    Guest, thank you for your reply. I don’t know who I am replying to so I will have to assume you do not normally over the years work these riddles. If you do, please forgive me. Are you applying your comments to what we are working on? We were discussing the recent events in relation to the last year of running riddles. Iwasnon gave a good summary. You may not agree with us, and we can agree to disagree, that is fine, but what I said has zero to do with whether anyone had ever been to the Eiffel Tower before or the Sistine Chapel. I will admit I had to laugh when I saw those latest photos those. Anyone that has been there will know exactly what I mean. Here, no, nit really a conspiracy, but undercover does imply that Ian is digging for the truth, so I can understand how it may appear that way at times. Interviews with stars do not count when you are looking for the truth, that is PR. This is just a riddle , it doesn’t make any difference to me if Jennifer wants to go to tourist spots, but like a few others here I also do not believe it is that simple. I suppose I should have added a 5th category, but I already know the answer to that one. lol no offense.

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  500. P. Gold said on June 17th, 2012 at 2:19 am

    @Kate:

    Kate, I was assuming Guest is someone who works in the entertainment industry and knows a lot, so I take it she/he is telling all of us here the actual thing while everyone here is only guessing.

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  501. Guest2 said on June 17th, 2012 at 7:02 am

    @Kate:
    Kate, in the movie Derailed jen is not really a married woman, she is a scam artist. Clive Owen is her target who she cons into having an affair by pretending to be someone else but she is in on the blackmail scheme.

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  502. Guest2 said on June 17th, 2012 at 7:36 am

    @Guest:
    I’ve enjoyed reading your posts and wonder if you are just a fan or someone in the business who knows jen and justin. I don’t think there’s an ulterior motive to their trip but I wonder why there are so many photos (I’m not complaining, I loved the Paris photos). However, I’ve been to the Sistine Chapel several times and we were not allowed to take photos but I know someone who went on a private vip tour of the Vatican and they were allowed to take photos. I’m guessing that jen also had a private tour as she probably wouldn’t want to wait in line with the crowds at this time of the year and she appeared to be taking photos. If that’s the case, I’m wondering how they got pics of them inside the Vatican.

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  503. Guest2 said on June 17th, 2012 at 8:20 am

    @Guest2:
    I meant to say pics of them inside the Sistine Chapel.

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  504. Tetta said on June 17th, 2012 at 8:23 am

    @Kate:

    Kate, I guess you are thinking of how jennifer was dressed. At point 3, in the link you can read how they want you to be dressed.

    http://www.lonelyplanet.com/travelblogs/654/24561/20+tips+on+Visiting+the+Vatican+Museums?destId=359518

    There are pictures from inside the chapel were JA wears a sweater but obviously no one dared to stop her because of her short dress. As Europe is small I have visited Rome and the Vatikan a couple of times and it´s true, you must follow the rules. I have seen people in raincoats that are bought in the tourist shops outside the Vatikan. I always think of ” Do not let the moneylenders in the temple ” because I don´t think they ought to be so close to the whole building complex.
    Since there is a very special feeling to see this place, you don´t need to be religious to feel it,
    the shops are very misplaced.

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  505. Guest2 said on June 17th, 2012 at 8:30 am

    @Kate:
    Are you saying then here, that they had an affair, (you referenced the It’s Complicated) and now they are being blackmailed? That would make sense, and that would be shocking to many.

    I don’t understand this. An affair between them would be shocking only to the tabloids and the loons, I think. Is that what you meant by shocking? Everyone else would probably just take it in stride as really juicy gossip. Who would blackmail them and why would they allow themselves to be blackmailed? Neither of them is married (that we know of).

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  506. Tetta said on June 17th, 2012 at 8:33 am

    @Guest2:

    You are right about the photos to. It´s a rule in many museums and churches but it is forbidden because the flashes destroy the drawings and sculptures. This rule is no longer so hard. In Le Louvre in Paris accept cameras with flashes at most places. But it´s still forbidden to take a picture of Mona Lisa. This painting is covered by a curtain when there are no guests.

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  507. guest 3 said on June 17th, 2012 at 8:38 am

    Yes, I wondering the same thing. No photos allowed in the Vatican and they weren’t grainy..so, we can’t blame a fan with a cellphone. Perhaps a paid pap??
    Now JA is 9-10 weeks pregnant? Although she was seen guzzling alcohol in Paris and was stoned at the MTV movie awards just two weeks ago. OKay.. Maybe her larger breast are due to implants and she was recovering from the surgery during the time there were no photos of her.
    I get it, there’s pressure in HW to stay young, pretty and hot. But it comes a time that you must realized that you’re in your mid 40’s and you’re not going to get the roles of Jennifer lawrence . Unfortunately, HW is still a man’s world. It’s sad that some women in HW as they get older they wear less clothes and add plastic surgery to stay relevant. It’s not just JA, there are others. Why is Halle Berry still wearing short shorts at 46 years old?

    Granted, Halle still has a banging body but don’t cry about there are just no roles for women after 40 years old and use your body as a means to get roles. Why can’t they use Meryl Streep or Helen Mirren as role models or managing longetivity in the business. Helen is still sexy and hot in her 60’s. I still can’t believe that was her in that red bathing suit. But who knew? Because her acting took precedent, not her body, hair and make-up.

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  508. Tetta said on June 17th, 2012 at 8:39 am

    @Guest2:

    When you say affair, do you mean Brad and Jennifer ? That wouldn´t be shocking at all. Brad lives in an open relation and if you mean BP and JA I guess it was before her relation with Justin became serious.

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  509. Siska said on June 17th, 2012 at 8:54 am

    @Guest2: yeah holiday made you curvier,,and I think I will be in the moody side if people kept harassed me on the holiday .
    I read your post saying that Ellen also in Europe.but I only will be more seriously sus ,if cox or Chelsea spotted there.
    I just found it a bit strange,that they not seem to engage like before.
    Btw Jen new bodyguard also being used by Rpatz in his Europe movie pr.
    I think because of his local expertise.
    No wonder Jen prefer exclusive resort holiday,she will be more relax there,btw Justin birthday will be in two months,I think they will visit Hawaii.
    I think this holiday it’s a break before their busy schedule ahead.

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  510. Guest2 said on June 17th, 2012 at 8:55 am

    @Tetta:
    Yes, that’s why we weren’t allowed to take photos, to preserve the paintings. My boss, who is a very wealthy man, went to Italy recently with an upscale tour group and they were given a private tour and were allowed to take pictures in the Sistine Chapel so exceptions are made to the rules for the rich and famous. I wish they had dressed more conservatively for a trip to a church like they did in Paris. But it’s really hot in Rome right now, in the 90’s, so I shall forgive them which I’m sure will make them happy, lol.

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  511. Dream said on June 17th, 2012 at 9:01 am

    @Tetta:
    when i was a little girl i went to the vatican many times.
    I asked my dad why they were selling dead people? the pope in a glass coffin looked like the glass display cases in the gift shop to me.

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  512. Guest2 said on June 17th, 2012 at 9:05 am

    @Siska:
    Do you mean jen and courtney don’t seem to engage like before or jen and chelsea or both? Not sure about chelsea but courtney’s had a lot going on in her life and she and david just filed for divorce. Maybe their were trying to work things out and in the end couldn’t do it. Jen’s been busy with her renovations and spending a lot of time with justin so relationship dynamics might have changed.

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  513. Guest2 said on June 17th, 2012 at 9:10 am

    @Dream:
    Lol, the pope in the coffin was kind of creepy. All this talk about rome makes me want to go back. And when I do I want to see all the usual tourist sites again, the Vatican, the coliseum, the Trevi fountain, the roman forum., the catacombs. And I want to eat and drink to my heart’s content. The food is incomparable.

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  514. Siska said on June 17th, 2012 at 9:12 am

    @guest 3:Do you seriously think she will paid pap to took her holiday picture? It’s backward,the paps smell money shot when celebrity like her calibre out and about.do you forget that JA actually help to pass the law on regulate the media intrusion of celeb private life,Governor Arnold S mention this on one of his interview.just google it.
    JA is professional,and she knew the fame game,its being mention before by David wain when they shot the movie at NYC,when paps swam the set,and She made the deal so they can taking her picture and in exchange they let her continue work smoothly.

    And for the breast enhancement thing,I don’t think it’s true,JA gain weight,so her boob a bit bigger and she is never flat chested,she born with great bum and boob,if you want to start the rumor of breast enhancement,just look at your idol AJ,she is a magical woman ,who getting skinier by the years it her boob getting bigger .

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  515. Siska said on June 17th, 2012 at 9:16 am

    @Guest2:I mean if someone spot one of them there plus if her business partner Kristen Hann or Andrea spotted there,there might be some special occasion going on.
    I think Jen relation with cox or Chelsea is fine.we don’t hang around too much with our friend when we are in serious relation.

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  516. Guest2 said on June 17th, 2012 at 9:18 am

    @guest 3:
    The women you mention are in their 60’s so of course the roles would be different for them than for women in their 40’s or even late 30’s. Look at what’s available to jolie. She’s playing a cartoon character. It’s her first movie in two years after the tourist bombed and she was ridiculed for her performance. She’s had her face completely reconstructed to the point where she can’t have any more work done (or maybe she had more work done that didn’t turn out well and that’s why she didn’t go to cannes and hasn’t been seen close up since the oscars debacle). Also, her body is so gaunt and skeletal that she can’t even wear shorts to the beach, she has to cover herself up in a long black tent and hat. What’s left for her after maleficent? She’s too frail for action nad has limited range in drama and no comedic talent. Jennifer has three movies in the works so obviously she’s still in demand.

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  517. Guest2 said on June 17th, 2012 at 9:19 am

    @Siska:
    Maybe they’ll go directly to Greece and by pass Italy :)

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  518. Siska said on June 17th, 2012 at 9:21 am

    @Guest2:The bit about jusjen not being lovey dover
    Iike before,they seem a bit off,but maybe just the way the photos were,we will never get accurate reading just basic on it,but it’s strange for me still,specially after all my favorite romantic pictures of them before and after JA cherry mood at the Eiifel Tower.

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  519. guest 3 said on June 17th, 2012 at 9:25 am

    @Tetta
    You really don’t have faith in JA, so much so that she would have an affair with an ex-husband that has six children with another woman that he’s been with for 8 years . You really make her sound so desperate or just a side piece.
    Let’ s give her some credit… I’m not a fan, but I don’t think she would be that stupid.

    She’s not relevant in the JP’s household or former ex’s. VV got married and had a child, never spoke of his relationship with JA.

    Even JM recent interviews talk about how hurt he was about Taylor Swift’s ” Dear John” song, not JA. Although her PR people tried to spin his latest song was about JA however, all he talked about was Taylor Swift.

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  520. Siska said on June 17th, 2012 at 9:27 am

    @Guest2:Imagine!!!!ohhh my fantasy come true,how about some drama,by Jm and Bp also stalked her there? My romance blood will be boiled hot!! He.he.

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  521. Siska said on June 17th, 2012 at 9:43 am

    @guest 3:We knew you re not a fan,but to saying that Tetta is stupid just because she played the guessing game for silly riddle,actually showing your true color,hater without sense.
    Please do some research before talking just to blame JA pr for everything.The Us weekly and People mag actually saying its JM source who mention about the song about Jen.and he also being quote stating how he regret that his relation with Jen didn’t work out.
    And who is the person who recently talking at Parade interview when promote his movie ,and try to redeem it by mention His ex is the most funny and his dear friend? And in the other end JA’s dad stated that JA never in contact with Brad.
    Btw.why always believe about the tabs saying about Jen negative ones but refuse to acknowledge her positive ones. Btw either you like it or not,she was the only ex wife of BP and she didnt need to wait 7 years with 6 kids and excuse of marriage equality to propose to Jen after only less than 2 years dating.

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  522. guest 3 said on June 17th, 2012 at 9:47 am

    @Guest 2
    The Tourst Bomb? It made $275 mil WW, .. and yet she is still the only ACTRESS in HW that get’s a backend deal along with the top 5 male actors.. Brad, Leo, Johnny, Will and Tom. ..and still the highest paid actress at 37 years old.
    You should be congratulating her and protesting that more actresses should be in that category in 2012..

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  523. Dream said on June 17th, 2012 at 9:54 am

    @Guest2:
    i wish i could have gone back. my sister has and she did all the touristy things. had a great time.
    glad ja is havinga good time there.
    i never have been able to figure out why celebs don’t travel adn do tourist more often. seems like if they did it would just be normal to see them. no one would bother them. even elvis could walk around among us.
    theres so much in the world to see.
    we used to plan vacations by using the aaa book. look for all the obscure, weird stuff we could find on our way to where ever we were going. the trips always were more interesting then the destination.

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  524. simms said on June 17th, 2012 at 10:31 am

    whoa all these jeneration posts are refreshing to read. i
    guess as of rite now there not breaking up? baby on way? she doesnt
    seem to be in a rush for a child,if she had i think she would have
    adopted like so many single actresses are doing nowdays. guest 3 made
    a great comment about helen mirren looking fab in a bikini at 60 something
    and jolie wearing her very Funny and Bizzare black outfit. jolie needs a
    body double for any bikini pics.mirren would be great.

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  525. Guest said on June 17th, 2012 at 11:12 am

    @Kate:
    My comments are what they are…they wouldn’t and shouldn’t change to attempt to solve some supposed riddle. I think you are completely right in keeping an open mind about Jen or any celeb and thinking that every and all possibility should be explored, but by definition, these must be “possible” and if drawing a conclusion they ought to be likely. What good is attempting to solve a puzzle with opinions or beliefs that ignore the reality of a situation? I was hearing a lot of comments that this trip had to be PR or with ulterior motives because it wasn’t possible for her to be just on vacation because of all the pap pictures and information we are getting. This is simply not true at all. And the lack of knowledge of the paparazzi and the link to technology and the entertainment industry are what seem to be fueling this, so I simply wanted to explain.

    For example, are you all aware here that the second someone in Paris tweeted that they spotted Jen and Justin somewhere (as many fans and not are inclined to do what with twitter, facebook and the like nowadays), not one but several reporters from different weeklies (US, People) and blogs (Celebuzz) immediately started tweeting them and asking them about the sighting, and providing their emails and phone numbers so that they can talk to them further because “I’m writing an article about this…” There are definitely times where People or US post articles that could be hand-fed to them by a publicist (and Jen and others aren’t immune to this), but the information coming out about this vacation is not one of those times. These weeklies can create an entire story based solely on pictures, or based on pictures and comments gleamed from those who spotted them. Never mind that the pictures gave away the hotels, restaurants, landmarks and stores they were at, so again all these weeklies had to do was call up these places and ask for comments and information about their visit. It didn’t even require any investigative journalism: any one of us could have written the pieces.

    @Guest2:
    @Tetta:
    You are all quick to comment about how did someone get photos..well have you actually viewed all the photos? Most of them came from the Museum or grounds outside where you are allowed to take pictures. And the few that came from the Chapel are very blurred and extremely poor quality (with objects on the edges giving away the attempt to hide the camera). It is obvious they do not know they are being photographed in the latter group (and I would add, this idea that you can’t take pictures depends a lot on the actual rules the day you are at a place…for example one of you said how you couldn’t take a photo of Mona Lisa at the Louvre, but in fact this is more likely that you could not take a flash photo since I and all the others around me did just that a couple of years ago when I was there: no one stopped us or told us not too). And yes they are clearly getting a VIP tour (they have a guide and guard with them along with their own security), but they are still just being tourists…and more down to earth ones then most HW celebs would be (I would imagine Pitt and Jolie would ask the place to be closed to the public for a visit for example). And about the clothing…again if you had checked out the pictures you would see that others are wearing shorts and short skirts/dresses in the background. She also covered her shoulders with a sweater inside. So there was nothing about her attire that was any different from anyone else. You are making a quick jump to assume the worst here, and I’m just pointing out that sometimes the worst isn’t the reality.

    @Siska:
    Have you seen the pictures of them holding hands and smiling? I will give you that they aren’t as cherry as they were leaving the Eiffel Tower, but then the circumstances are different aren’t they? In the Tower photos they were coming off what was probably a very romantic dinner and were being amused by the French paps who were quite funny talking to and questioning them. In Rome they are trying to sight see and probably blend in with the crowds, and they are not walking themselves but with Vatican employees who are talking to them and giving them an educational tour. Again, the rush to judge photos or draw assumptions (whether about Jen or Pitt or whomever) is really premature.

    @Dream:
    I think the answer to why some celebs (of Jen’s status) don’t travel and do the touristy thing more often is found on this blog and in the fact that the paps haven’t left her alone all week! She’s assumed to be up to something simply because she wants to see sights that many others in the world have gotten to. And she isn’t able to completely enjoy these sights without having cameras follow her there.

    But you ask a good question: why wouldn’t she want or do the touristy thing? Why should we expect that simply because she has money she wouldn’t want to see these sights? Or better yet, everyone has a different “vacation style”: some like all inclusives, others like adventure trips, some like beaches, some like educational/history trips, some small towns, some big cities, etc. Why is it so hard to believe that she might want to be doing the trip that she has planned rather than one that a friend is on? This happens to us regular folk (I take trips that friends wouldn’t and vice versa), so why wouldn’t the same be true for her?

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  526. liv4 said on June 17th, 2012 at 11:31 am

    Happy Father’s Day Ian.

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  527. Guest19 said on June 17th, 2012 at 11:38 am

    It’s possible that the trip might have been about something else, but it is also possible that this trip was planned and they just wanted to enjoy a nice vacation before they go back to work again. Why shouldn’t she have that without an ulterior motive being attached to it? There are also dozens of pictures of them holding hands and smiling so I don’t see how one or two pictures of them not doing that could be due to a lovers quarrel. They don’t have to hold hands all the time. As for the pics inside the chapel. I have traveled a lot and even though some places have rules about not taking pictures there are always those few who act like they are better than the few and sneak in pictures. The pictures are also very blurry and look to be taken by phone. I just don’t think it’s fair to assume that the trip is for something else rather than their own pleasure. Jen could walk out of her house in LA and it would still be news so I am sure the media is loving every minute of this and lucky for them the paps do tip each other and hound such celebs of her calliber.

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  528. Tetta said on June 17th, 2012 at 11:58 am

    @Guest:
    It was I who wrote about how to be dressed in the chapel. Did you noticed that I say Jennifer had a sweater on in some pictures ? And I know from my own experience that people in shorts or short dresses are stopped. Probably they made an exeption for Jennifer. And then they also had to let other tourist with improper clothes go into the chapel. And it could also depend on who is in duty at different times. Perhaps some of the staff don´t take the rules as serious as others.
    Just as you say about Mona Lisa it differs from day to day and I also wrote that it was the flashes that destroyed the colors on the paintings / sculptures. If you read my comment perhaps you saw that I wrote that the rules are not so had today compared to earlier. And if you have a system camera you cat use different settings and not use a flash. But most of us have regular cameras and have to use the flash to feet a good picture and that is not allowed.

    One advice to Guest, please use the way to discuss the clues less aggressive. If you want to make your voice heard you succeed much better if you are a bit more friendly.

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  529. Tetta said on June 17th, 2012 at 12:21 pm

    @guest 3:

    If you read some statistics you can see it very common that couples who have separated meet and end up in bed. I think it´s a very human thing. The person you once loved is still there and sometimes it´s all about lust. I don´t think people in Hollywood has higher moral than people in the rest of the world.

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  530. Kate said on June 17th, 2012 at 12:21 pm

    @Tetta:
    Thanks Tetta, I have been there several times, but no, that is not what I was referring to. :)

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  531. Kate said on June 17th, 2012 at 12:24 pm

    @Guest2:
    I was trying to relate to what Rush was posting earlier, because I did not quite understand, but I think that is what she means yes, that they had an affair (it is not cheating if he was mine first , a quote from the film) and there was something on the laptop that could prove that. Maybe Rush can explain when she comes back.

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  532. joanne said on June 17th, 2012 at 12:26 pm

    @Tetta:
    Sometimes great sex is all you shared with an ex and lust starts stirring when you run into them, but an ex is an ex for a reason so the best thing to do is walk away but we don’t always do the best thing.

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  533. Kate said on June 17th, 2012 at 12:37 pm

    @guest 3:
    Apparently she is relevant, according to Ian . Brad certainly went to great lengths to hide the friendship, what did Ian say, “there is clearly more to this!” I wonder what he meant by that. ;)

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  534. Guest2 said on June 17th, 2012 at 12:37 pm

    @guest 3:
    Show me the proof that she’s the highest paid actress and I’ll believe it. She may have been at one time but in the past two years the only thing she’s done is direct and write (allegedly) a movie that bombed in a big way and for which she’s being sued for plagiarism. She also did that louis vitton photoshoot in cambodia (?) for which she was allegedly paid $10M. Again, I don’t believe the numbers and won’t until I see proof. By the way, you saying it isn’t proof nor is rumor printed in the tabs. The problem with jolie is that there is a lot of rumor and spin that surrounds her and her ventures and it’s hard to know fact from fiction because she’s contradicted herself so many times that it’s clear she doesn’t tell the truth. Hard to believe a liar.

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  535. Up the Coast said on June 17th, 2012 at 12:39 pm

    @joanne:
    I would guess that these statistics are even higher for ex’s when their relationship was ended in mid-stream without proper closure between the two of them. They might always wonder…”what if”.

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  536. Kate said on June 17th, 2012 at 12:41 pm

    Her breasts have looked like that now for a good year, I don’t think she had surgery, probably some shots with fillers to make them more firm. That is the new cosmetic procedure for many these days. Quick , easy, and your breasts a fuller and firm. She does not look like she has really gained weight to me, I think it is the angle of the photos, there are a few where you can see she is tiny. Not as she was when she was in Rome with Brad, but still tiny.

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  537. Up the Coast said on June 17th, 2012 at 12:41 pm

    @Guest2:
    Exactly!

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  538. Tetta said on June 17th, 2012 at 12:42 pm

    @Siska:

    Siska, thanks for defending me. I do like this clues in the same way I like to solve crosswords. And when we sometimes push each other with more or less unbelievable solutions to the clues it gets really funny. I understand that the loons laugh and that a new guest gets confused and think we are crazy. They are not able to see the fun in it. It takes a while to understand our way to play this game.

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  539. Guest2 said on June 17th, 2012 at 12:46 pm

    @guest 3:
    TT bombed domestically and it was panned by the critics. Her performance was simply awful to put it nicely. In teh MTV tribut to depp, they showed clips from movies over the course of his career and TT was left out. Can’t say that I blame him for wanting to distance himself from that embarrassment.

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  540. Tetta said on June 17th, 2012 at 12:49 pm

    @joanne:

    Before I met my by now husband I had some serious relations with other men. And I know how easy it is to forget everything that was wrong and why the relation ended. But it´s easy to feel “busted” and “disgusting” after a one nights reunion.

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  541. Guest2 said on June 17th, 2012 at 12:56 pm

    @Tetta:
    It’s annoying when guest loons pretend to like jen and then proceed to bash her. Personally, I think that whatever connection there is between brad/jen is of an insignificant nature at this time and I’m not sure I believe she hooked up with him but, as you said, when marriages end in the way hers did sometimes closure is needed closure so I try to keep an open mind for that reason and because some of the clues seem to led in that direction.

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  542. Tetta said on June 17th, 2012 at 12:56 pm

    @Dream:

    Yes, it was creepy ! But there are so many beautiful things to see in the Vatican and in the rest of Rome. I think you need to get there many times to learn to know the city. It´s the same with Paris. It´s a gift for us up in Scandinavia that we could go to these cities on a Friday afternoon and be back home Sunday evening, ready for work.

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  543. Guest2 said on June 17th, 2012 at 1:00 pm

    @Tetta:
    That’s brilliant! A one-night reunion, someone found out, they got busted and she is disgusted for going there. The only problem I have is could she really touch him knowing who he’s been with? Maybe for closure it was necessary but when she thought about it afterwards she was totally disgusted.

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  544. Up the Coast said on June 17th, 2012 at 1:02 pm

    @Guest2:
    It was listed as a COMEDY at the GG’s :shock:

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  545. Guest2 said on June 17th, 2012 at 1:03 pm

    @Guest2:
    OR, a one-night reunion after which she found out that he lied to her about something important, he was busted and she was disgusted.

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  546. Up the Coast said on June 17th, 2012 at 1:03 pm

    @Tetta:
    :lol: perfect example of a “what was I thinking?” moment.

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  547. Guest2 said on June 17th, 2012 at 1:04 pm

    @Up the Coast:
    Maybe because her performance was a joke?

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  548. Kate said on June 17th, 2012 at 1:04 pm

    @Guest:
    Lets agree to disagree on this. I have built up solid relationships with clients and colleagues over the last twenty years in the entertainment industry, so I aware of how it works. I trust Ian, because he does not use fluff or bull chyt to sell stars. He presents them just as they are, unless it is too damaging, and then he will bless them with a bit of grace and hold some back. Everyone can obviously choose to believe what they wish, but what I believe in regards to this is not based on what you are suggesting. I hope you are not offended, but people see things from different perspectives based on their experiences in life. This is one that can not be changed for me. It is what it is. In this riddle Ian is not suggesting, he told us exactly three things we are discussing.

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  549. Tetta said on June 17th, 2012 at 1:06 pm

    @Guest2:

    It isn´t a shocking thing if they met each other sometime. As we are used to read about Angelinas rubbersheats and we have seen her both drunk and drugged I wonder what it is that will be shocking. I don´t think we are able to get something more out of this clue if we don´t get any new support. We just have to wait for next clue. They are all interesting in the beginning :)

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  550. Kate said on June 17th, 2012 at 1:09 pm

    @joanne:
    I have been thinking about that other riddle. When I asked Ian about the ex, we were going between James and Jen , and he said Jennifer. Now I don’t remember why we were considering James except the other one was about Ange and Haven as he commented. Does anyone remember , did he have that riddle tagged with sex, before ?

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  551. Tetta said on June 17th, 2012 at 1:12 pm

    @Guest2:

    Perhaps jennifer “punished” Brad that way. She knew how much he wanted her back. She gave a tidbit and then, out of my house ! And after that “what was I thinking ?” Love is never an easy thing :)

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  552. Kate said on June 17th, 2012 at 1:18 pm

    @Tetta:
    Maybe this is not the shocking clue. The only thing that leads us there is the busted and disgusted, right? Well and the Midnight express calls to the ex, that does seem to indicate an urgency there. The fix heated phone , all I can find on that is , stop using it til it cools down, or get a new battery, so it would indicate to fix the problem , but we don’t know who is calling who? or what the problem is. Or if it is even a problem, maybe it is an emergency, of some other type. I know Ian did tell Amaryrillis to stick around because a shocking clue was coming after she posted about Jen, and then he posted this, but he could have meant anything by that.

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  553. Kate said on June 17th, 2012 at 1:33 pm

    @Kate:
    Looking back, it was on June 5th in his twitters that he made his reference to Jen, and he confirmed he was talking about Jennifer, the ex is an ex for a reason comment. It was also that day he said yes, to telling everyone that they have remained friends but Angie does not think so. If the busted and disgusted applies to how she thinks of him, I would have expected Ian to have said, “no they are not friends at this point” ..why continue the friendship and go to the trouble to hide if from the other partner if you felt that way?

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  554. Up the Coast said on June 17th, 2012 at 1:34 pm

    @Kate:
    IMO, Brad IS the epitome of busted and disgusted (pun intended). I would not be shocked to learn that he has called Jen late at night, because he needed to say: What have I done??? Who else, besides his parents, could he really talk to about it? His friends (like VV) already told him to GO HOME to his wife, so he couldn’t talk to them, all he would hear is: I told you so. It’s not like joLIE’s reputation didn’t precede her.

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  555. Guest2 said on June 17th, 2012 at 1:45 pm

    @Kate:
    My personal feelings aside, if aj is still friends with her exes I guess it’s not inconceivable that brad and jen are friends. They work in the same industry, share the same PR firm and know a lot of the same people so at some point she would have to forgive and try to forge some kind of friendly relationship with an ex for her own peace of mind if nothing else. I suppose brad would not share this info with angie just to make things easier on himself. But maybe he’s busted now and she is disgusted because he lied to her? I wish Ian would tweet a little info about busted and disgusted.

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  556. Guest2 said on June 17th, 2012 at 1:46 pm

    @Kate:
    My personal feelings aside, if aj is still friends with her exes I guess it’s not inconceivable that brad and jen are friends. They work in the same industry, share the same PR firm and know a lot of the same people so at some point she would have to forgive and try to forge some kind of friendly relationship with an ex for her own peace of mind if nothing else. I suppose brad would not share this info with angie just to make things easier on himself. But maybe he’s busted now and she is disgusted because he lied to her? I wish Ian would tweet a little info about busted and disgusted.

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  557. Tetta said on June 17th, 2012 at 1:47 pm

    @Kate:

    It´s more my own feeling about Brad. As UtC said, he is the epitome of busted and disgusted.
    If Jennifer and Brad still are friends what I suggest doesn´t fit. But if we go back in time, I guess it took some time to become friends, I could think of this scenario. But it doesn´t make sense to the current situation.

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  558. Guest2 said on June 17th, 2012 at 1:49 pm

    @Tetta:
    Lol, I meant angie’s performance in the tourist was a joke and that’s why it was nominated in the comedy category at the golden globes. I suspect jen has no problems with her performance :)

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  559. Tetta said on June 17th, 2012 at 1:56 pm

    @Kate:

    It just hit me, even if you are a friend to your ex, you still could feel disgusted if a meeting went ” to far “. In this case I must use my imagination as I don´t have any own experiences of this. I´m a very boring person :lol:

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  560. Guest2 said on June 17th, 2012 at 1:56 pm

    Maybe busted and disgusted refers to brad. No offense intended just having fun with this.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_VCkvR7thE

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  561. payal said on June 17th, 2012 at 2:02 pm

    @Guest2:
    has anyone here seen the tourist?? how embarrassing is it as i never plan to watch it and also i think julia roberts and cameron diaz were once the first highest paid actresses ever not the ho…………plus am i forgiven yet?

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  562. Tetta said on June 17th, 2012 at 2:03 pm

    @Kate:

    Kate, now I´m really curious. Please tell us ! I want to know what you meant what was improper at J&J´s visit to the Vatican :lol:

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  563. Up the Coast said on June 17th, 2012 at 2:08 pm

    @payal:
    I forgive you, dear payal….I think that Demi was the first, highest paid actress, but I could be wrong ;)

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  564. Up the Coast said on June 17th, 2012 at 2:09 pm

    @Tetta:
    But you always choose the best avi’s :)

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  565. WR said on June 17th, 2012 at 2:11 pm

    @payal:
    “The Tourist” hurt Johnny Depp, professionally. He reportedly did it as a favor to a friend who was involved with the production. However, he rec’d such a critical drubbing, that his subsequent movies didn’t draw as many patrons as he did before that fiasco.
    It grossed only 24.3 percent of its ww boxoffice here in the USA. It, like many other movies that were weak domestically, recouped some of its cost in the foreign market.
    Btw, Johnny Depp was #1 at the boxoffice, here, when it was released. Curiously, he rec’d second billing.

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  566. Tetta said on June 17th, 2012 at 2:13 pm

    @payal:

    Angelina has done a lot of movies but since MAMS I just can’t watch them. And I fell asleep when I watched Bounty Hunter with Jennifer. You haven´t done anything that needs my forgiveness but I forgive you anyway :lol:

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  567. Up the Coast said on June 17th, 2012 at 2:13 pm

    @Guest2:
    Interesting! If Brad wasn’t in Germany buying “art” ;) I might think (from this) that Ian is suggesting he is broke :shock: (broke, busted and disgusted).

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  568. WR said on June 17th, 2012 at 2:15 pm

    @WR:
    As to going to see the movie, why waste time? If I’m going to do so, I’d rather do it at another movie, which the critics don’t hate so much!

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  569. WR said on June 17th, 2012 at 2:16 pm

    Early reports have “Rock of Ages” flopping at the domestic boxoffice.

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  570. Guest2 said on June 17th, 2012 at 2:24 pm

    @Tetta:
    Ha, so is jen according to brad’s interview. What if last year brad drunk dialed jen to talk about the irreparable damage that happened. They decided to meet up. Brad talked about how he couldn’t take it anymore and she felt sorry for him. Maybe they were smoking and drinking and that led to some making out and maybe even talk about a reconciliation. This was perfect for Brad who would see this as his ticket out of hell without making him look like a cad for leaving aj and the kids (hey, I never stopped loving my wife). Jen being sensible probably saw it as “what the hell was I thinking, he’s got six kids and a psycho woman to deal with, I don’t need that crap (or that ugly furniture) and I’m so out of here”. Brad got derailed because jen led him on (in his miind he saw it as a done deal). That might explain his over the top show at cannes where he dragged a barely coherent angie around like a prize puppy (I almost felt sorry for her). Kind of a screw you, bitch, to ja (because we know men talk like that when they don’t get what they want). Shortly after, justin came into the picture and showed some interest in her. Maybe it was suggested to her as a PR move to change her image from poor jen she’s pining away for brad and she thought what the heck, he’s a smart and funny guy, I’ll just go with it for a while. Justin was totally up for it because he was secretly crushing on her and also wanted to raise his professional profile. What started out as a business arrangement like in picture perfect changed into love. Bitchy brad was so mad at jen that he dissed their marriage in the parade interview.

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  571. Up the Coast said on June 17th, 2012 at 2:31 pm

    @Guest2:
    This works for me….+1

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  572. Guest2 said on June 17th, 2012 at 2:33 pm

    @payal:
    There’s nothing to forgive but if you want to hear it then yes you are. I tried watching the tourist but jolie’s performance was so bad I just couldn’t get past it even though I like depp. All she did was pose and try to look beautiful, it was weird. You can probably find a trailer somewhere on line.

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  573. Up the Coast said on June 17th, 2012 at 2:35 pm

    @WR:
    So is Sandler’s “That’s My Boy”…the local FM radio stations have been playing ROA era music ALL weekend with interviews from the various stars. It reminds me of the way they used to promote events back in the 80’s.

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  574. Up the Coast said on June 17th, 2012 at 2:40 pm

    @Guest2:
    That was joLIE “acting” like a LADY :shock: She said she had to be taught, to act like a lady…then she said that Viv taught her to act like a lady :shock: (she’s loco).

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  575. Tetta said on June 17th, 2012 at 2:41 pm

    @Guest2:

    Your version is perfect ! Can´t we decide this is how it was ! :lol:

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  576. Guest2 said on June 17th, 2012 at 2:41 pm

    @WR:
    I don’t know if you saw the trailer but it was pretty bad. I like tom cruise as an actor but I think he was totally miscast in this role. It’s hard to see him as an aging rock star. The rest of the cast wasn’t anyone I would pay to see. Musicals don’t always transition well from stage to screen.

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  577. Guest2 said on June 17th, 2012 at 2:43 pm

    @Tetta:
    We can if Ian lets us :lol: Just kidding!

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  578. Dream said on June 17th, 2012 at 2:46 pm

    @Guest:
    i think i mean we pay celebs so much money. we put them on pedestals. and then we keep them prisoner. i understand why they don’t go out. it’s just sad to me. to have all that money and not be able to do the things anyone else would want to do. i agree not everyone wants to take the same vacation, so i can see someone may not want my dream vacation, but they have to want to go out and just be normal sometimes.
    and yes i know u understand, i guess i am just letting some frustration out. i don’t even know why it bothers me but it does. we do the same to politicians. u go into office and are supposed to make laws for the people. how can you do that if youa re not allowed to live among the people?

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  579. Dream said on June 17th, 2012 at 2:47 pm

    oops taht was too kate lol sorry guest

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  580. Tetta said on June 17th, 2012 at 2:50 pm

    @Up the Coast:

    Do you recognize the face on my avi ? No ? It´s a selfportrait of John Lennon !

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  581. Dream said on June 17th, 2012 at 2:53 pm

    @payal:
    Hi payal, you are one of the sweetest people i have ever met. your ability to meet the world head on with your heart completely open, is beautiful. i hope this little lesson in the world is not always a safe place for the heart does not taint you. jennifer is not perfect as none of us are. but she draws you to her and that means there’s good in her.
    i have never been a fan but i have seen her thru your eyes over the last year. i find her intriguing, and have learned to appreciate a few movies i might not have watched except for your vision of her.
    keep your heart open. it gets wounded more that way but it also gets filled more often that way.

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  582. Kate said on June 17th, 2012 at 3:00 pm

    @payal:
    Am I? :) so sorry to have upset you Payal. I honestly did not mean to, but in a way, I am so impressed that you have such a pure heart! Good for you. Your parents must be very proud of you.

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  583. Tetta said on June 17th, 2012 at 3:02 pm

    @Up the Coast:

    I have had a feeling for a long time that Brad is brooke. It´s just a feeling, I haven´t read it anywhere. Showing up in Berlin could be just to make us believe he still can afford that ugly stuff. Or he did just as I use to do, just watch ! i know it´s a form of very advanced art but you need a special design of house to see the beauty in it. You can´t place it beside Grandma´s old table.

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  584. Dream said on June 17th, 2012 at 3:15 pm

    @Guest2:
    i am surprised he wanted to play an aging rock star. he does not want to be seen as aging in real life. just an odd choice for him. lol originally typed that her not him.

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  585. Dream said on June 17th, 2012 at 3:16 pm

    @Tetta:
    i recognized it right away. love that picture. loved john lennon.

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  586. Kate said on June 17th, 2012 at 3:22 pm

    @Guest2:
    This is where I am stumped. That interview was horrible. It is almost impossible to read it and think he was not pissed and that she would be okay with it. He gave that interview in September. It was January that I had asked for clarification and Ian told me they were friends but Jolie did not think so, and for Ian to say okay to revealing that now, and not ruling out the mysterious relationship with Brad seems to indicate there is more to it.Then there is Ian’s comment , “clearly there is more to this” . I don’t think she is pissed at him, they are tied together somehow. I think we have two separate stories, her being happy with Justin, has nothing to do at this point and time with her mysterious relationship with Brad. She and Justin are just in their relationship , and happy. The thing with Brad appears to go back a year. I am not convinced they had an affair.

    I was thinking about the confusion brought on with the term bearding. I used that term because I know so many in the industry that use it, for all the reasons I listed, but I have a feeling Ian would have said fauxromance if that is what he meant. Someone asked who Jen may have bearded for, and they suggested Brad, is that a possibility? What do you guys think? That is hard for me to believe, but is that possible?

    The other thing I wondered about was, booty dress, if he is not talking about a dressy attire, what does it mean, not wedding, then what, is he saying, sexy image? Give to the poor- donation. we know she has her charities, but this is personal. If she decided not to use the fertilized eggs, what would she do with them? Some decide to donate them to moms who can not have children. She may not want to keep them herself now that she has Justin, but was maybe considering before they fell in love, others destroy them or donate them to science. Then there is the “mystery baby mama” that toddler looked like a little Shiloh or Viv, who has the mystery baby, Brad? Very blonde hair. Maybe he used the eggs with a surrogate, but for what reason, and someone found out, maybe Jolie, and this is the ruse that Jen helped him cover up. Just thinking out loud. I just don’t think there was an affair, more of a friendship , but of course I could be off on that. If Jen has moved on, living the life of peace and forgiveness and the wisdom of Tao, she may have said, yeah take them, just don’t give them to your ho. (sorry fans) It’s complicated. Maybe Brad can no longer have kids, and Jen can. shruggs. just a thought. bearding, mysterious relationship with Brad, grooving and in love with Justin, just throwing it out there. Brad sure has aged in 8 years. I bet not a single one here has aged like that in 8 years. Ian looks younger today than he did 4 years ago. lol just an example.

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  587. Kate said on June 17th, 2012 at 3:37 pm

    @Up the Coast:
    lol I would too if he was not getting on that private jet! ha . Everyone have a nice day! Off with family for Daddy’s Day!! Happy Father’s Day Ian! :)

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  588. Tetta said on June 17th, 2012 at 3:50 pm

    @Kate:

    Give to the poor – couldn´t it mean Jennifer has helped Brad economically ?

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  589. guest 3 said on June 17th, 2012 at 3:56 pm

    @Guest 2
    I guess you didn’t get the memo. A movie is a bomb when it fails both domestically and Internationally such as Wonderbust. $22 mil worldwide. So you must don’t know diddly about the movie industry. Men in Black 3, Prometheus, Snow White and the huntsman will not recoup it’s production/marketing budget playing in NA. However, the Avengers is a certifiable major hit grossing over $570 mil domestically. Each one of those aforementioned movies had a production cost ranging from $170-$225 mil, not including marketing/advertising costs. Why do you think actors go overseas to promote their movies? For sightseeing?

    None of Johnny Depp’s movies has done well outside playing some cartoonish character… and actually most respectable critics praised Jolie and thought Johnny was the wrong actor to play opposite her. His acting was panned, as most of his roles when he plays a normal character or not in costume. I like Johnny Depp, but don’t go blaming Angie on his latest movie failures when you haven’t researched his filmology.

    I see you that you guys just can’t let go of the Brad and Jen connection. I don’t blame you, Brad is the best thing she’s had. Although she’s been with at least 6 men since Brad (3) that had some fame.. But it’s back to ole Brad. Poor Jen still pining for Brad although he’s been with another woman for the past 8 years. and has children to boot. You give women a bad name.
    JTX is not good enough? Oh forgot, it’s just the riddle we are trying to solve. When will this riddle be solved? . Let me see it wasn’t solved in 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, in 6 months we’re approaching 2013.
    Just think in 2006, the JP’s had three children under the age of 5. Now there’s going to be a teen in 2 years.

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  590. Tetta said on June 17th, 2012 at 4:01 pm

    @Dream:

    Me too. And my son. He doesn´t live at home any more but we have kept his room intact. He has plenty of black / whith photos of JL and in the middle a picture with the lyrics to
    ” Imagine “. He has studied Peace and Conflict Solutions for six years at college and he now has a master degree. He finished his studies just a couple of weeks ago and he has already got a work at an institute that works with these questions. Sometimes I´m a bit proud of him.

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  591. Dream said on June 17th, 2012 at 4:15 pm

    @Tetta:
    don’t blame u at all. sounds like a wonderful kid. i think jl like many famous men probably did things he should not, but he was also gifted with the ability to imagine how wonderful the world could be.
    your son sounds like he has vision as well.

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  592. Tetta said on June 17th, 2012 at 4:26 pm

    @guest 3:

    Booty Dress – A Botty Call is a call for sex, I have learnt. (The first hit at Google). Does Jennifer wear a booty dress to show Brad how sexy she is ? Don´t think so if they are friends. But perhaps she still likes to tease him.And she doesn´t need to send a message to Justin. She wore a similar black dress at Golden Globe 2010 when she and Gerard Butler presented a winner. Perhaps Ian meant the short black leather dress when she won an award. It´s easier to make stories of a leather dress than one made of fabric. Angelina wore a black leather dress when she and Brad promoted MAMS. Perhaps booty dress has something to do with Brad.

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  593. Tetta said on June 17th, 2012 at 4:30 pm

    @Tetta:

    Sorry Guest 3, this comment was an answer to Kate, but of course for everyone to think of.

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  594. Kate said on June 17th, 2012 at 4:47 pm

    @Tetta:
    Well as I wait for our lovely son who is taking his lovely time today to arrive, athere are 3 tweets Ian made yesterday , some photos he used before, no one mentioned them . I wondered about one because he looked so short in its. I think with 3, he is hitting us over the head. The message . Photoshopped. Does anyone remember what was in the Brown eye girl clue?

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  595. Dream said on June 17th, 2012 at 4:49 pm

    @Kate:
    i jsut noticed those tweets. lol trying to finish my book i want to read the kurt cobain one by ian. that one has intrigued me.

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  596. Guest2 said on June 17th, 2012 at 4:50 pm

    @guest 3:
    Who wrote the memo, you? No respected critic gave angie a good review for TT. Her performance was atrocious. I see you conveniently left out brad’s flop TOL where movies goers were asking for their money back and seem to recall reading the movie got booed in cannes. And let’s not forget the biggest flop of all, angie’s plagiarized war rape movie. I’m sure you have stars in your eyes when it comes to angie and brad so the truth is probably impossible for you to see. That’s your business, I don’t really care, just don’t tell me what to think or say.

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  597. Kate said on June 17th, 2012 at 4:50 pm

    @guest 3:
    And the misery is just beginning lol poor Brad.

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  598. Kate said on June 17th, 2012 at 4:53 pm

    Funny isn’t it, he must be smacking us, hey over here, I have told you several times now,chuckling. So this must apply somehow.

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  599. Guest2 said on June 17th, 2012 at 4:53 pm

    @Kate:
    I saw them but I thought the tweets were directed to some woman and didn’t want to intrude. I guess he will have to beat us over the head. Yikes, can he make it easy just one time.

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  600. Tetta said on June 17th, 2012 at 5:11 pm

    @Kate:

    A parenthesis about what to wear or not in the Sistine Chapel. Do you mean Justin should have left his necklace, the gun. in the porch ( in Sweden called weapon House ) ?

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  601. Guest2 said on June 17th, 2012 at 5:32 pm

    @Kate:
    If brad is bisexual, then jen was bearding for him in a way. Maybe she convinced herself that once they were married he would lose interest in men or maybe she thought she could live with him having the occasional fling with a man. She might have been okay with that but him hooking up with jolie would have been a betrayal, I think. I think in jolie brad found the perfect partner for the life he wanted. Both bisexual, neither believes in fidelity, both wanted a boat load of children (while I think jen wanted children I doubt she wanted to be a brood mare and procreate on command).

    As for any embryos that might exist I can’t see her giving them to him. Why would she do that? Any resulting child would be hers. Maybe I misunderstood your comment on that one.

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  602. Guest2 said on June 17th, 2012 at 5:38 pm

    Jen’s pirate booty dress is a brand of dresses. Don’t know how it ties in to this clue but here it is for what it’s worth.

    http://www.polyvore.com/jens_pirate_booty_dresses/shop?brand=Jens+Pirate+Booty&category_id=3

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  603. Guest2 said on June 17th, 2012 at 5:40 pm

    @Guest2:
    I should have added to the first paragraph that maybe’s that’s what Ian means by “an ex is an ex for a reason”. Seems to apply to them both.

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  604. Tetta said on June 17th, 2012 at 5:45 pm

    @Kate:

    Does Ian been something special with his latest tweet. What does the face of a man in a black turban means. His face is also photoshoped. I think of the photos of Brad in Berlin when you mentioned photoshoped. Another tweer that we didn´t pay so much attention to is the one ” This is the muse “. The Photo shows a dark skinned woman in a blue dress and a dog. She is someones inspiration when it comes to art and music. But she isn´t the same woman that we saw in the airplane (she looked like Bambi) Now I will see if I can find “Brown eye girl” :)

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  605. Guest2 said on June 17th, 2012 at 5:48 pm

    @Guest19:
    I just saw your comment. It probably is a vacation they had planned before she gets back to work on her upcoming movies and they were caught by the paps. The photos made it to every website so I guess pix of them sell well which is why they are followed. Whatever, I loved looking at the Paris photos, the Rome pics were different but as either you or the other guest noted, they were on a tour so that would have made a difference. I hope we get to see a little more of them without too much of their privacy being invaded. I would love to see them go to Greece next and get gossip tongues wagging.

    Now I must leave you all. I’ve spent way too much time here this weekend.

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  606. guest 3 said on June 17th, 2012 at 5:54 pm

    @guest 2
    I’m not telling you how to think but do your research and know how important the International box office is to HW before spouting off nonsense about failures/flops. Let’s not compare apples to oranges when it comes to movies. Are you talking about the Oscar-nominated and Cannes Palme d’Or award winner TOL? At least people attempted to see TOL in the 250 theaters it played in, people stayed away in droves for Wanderbust, it was released to 2002 theaters. Oh by the way, how did that case turn out or is it still being handled in Chicago (of all places)?

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  607. Tetta said on June 17th, 2012 at 6:02 pm

    @Tetta:

    “Jens booty dress” After a random search on google I think Ian just means that Jennifer wears a dress which shows her curves . But why does he point this out ? Maybe he just thinks she looks good.

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  608. Tetta said on June 17th, 2012 at 6:35 pm

    @Kate:

    The “brown eye girl” photo wasn´t visible to all of us. Someone was very kind and gave me a link to the photo but today this kink doesn´t work any more. We discussed if the photo was gone because BP´s and AJ´s tried to clean the web . But the photo was of a girl with long dark hair sitting at a bar reading something, My own comment was

    ”
    Tetta said on June 2nd, 2012 at 3:46 pm
    Finally I can see the photo attached to Ian´s tweet “Brown eye girl”. To see it better I enlarged it. There is a girl / woman who can be anything between 15 and 25 years old. The shape of her face looks like a cloon of JH´s face. Her squared shaped shoulders reminds a lot of AJ´s body. And her lips seem to be real big. I would be grateful if somebody else also wants to enlarge the photo and tell us if I´m right or wrong. The photo looks familiar. Has Ian used it before ? Or has Ian showed us a photo of the same person. It´s Ian´s word “cloon” and “Brotherly love” that makes me think in this direction. ”

    Now there are three women outside the triangle involved , 1) Bambi, 2) the Muse, 3 ) Brown eye girl.

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  609. Guest2 said on June 17th, 2012 at 7:32 pm

    @Tetta:
    I couldn’t see the photo but maybe they are all the same girl. Bambi has brown eyes. I don’t think the pictures are the actual people but they represent the people Ian is referring to in the clue. Maybe I’m wrong about that though. I’m not sure this is about jh as he has blue eyes, they both do as does their father, not sure about their mother.

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  610. siska said on June 17th, 2012 at 7:47 pm

    Ok, this is for guest3, who keep on and on about how great her idol AJ is..great..but if you want to compare them with jen,you also have to be open minded.
    Not all jen or angie movie are successful, they have hit and miss,and a good box office movie still depend on alot of factors,and the star is not the main reason.Good movie and good promo plus a bit of luck will draw audiences.
    On the subject of TT movie,i watched it because of the promo and the big star but on dvd, and the movie is not great,its a mess,good cinematography, but the acting very wooden from both star,which I blamed on the director.
    It made the money-back, but if you heard how many people who dissapointed about it and being made fun by their industry pier (remember Ricky jokes?),it show that the movie quite embarrassing for both Aj and JD.just like jen movie the Bounty.
    I admit Aj is one of the highest paid actress,which also including Reese,Julia,Sandra and new comer Kristen S.but she also not work much,it might be her choice or the studio can not afford to paid her when they can choose other player with less money. Remember Salt, Mams ,TT movies,she isnt the first choice to play it. So she must be not that powerful or well demand like you saying.its hardwork for HW on older woman,with multiple younger,sexier,competiton around.
    Thats why when Aj and Ja still well demand like Mstreep despite all that,i am proud for them. So just chill mate! As aussie saying

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  611. siska said on June 17th, 2012 at 7:53 pm

    @guest 3:D
    you watched TOL? Damn whata weird movie,i can not finish watching it,it played on the cruise i was in.the movie failure on the box office because of the extremely unwatchable storyline that I blamed wholeheartedly to the director.
    It might win some award,but a movie should be entertain,at least Adam sandler movie beside the Jill and jack,still made us laugh or enjoy

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  612. haki said on June 17th, 2012 at 7:55 pm

    My true feelings in this whole Brad/Angie/Jen triangle that has been going on for 7 plus years now:

    I hope that Brad and Angie get married and raise those six adorable little ones together. And also, I hope that Jen is truly happy and at peace and has found happiness with or without Justin and with or without having children in her life. At the end of the day, this life is too short to keep grudge and to hold on to resentments and living with regrets. Some people are meant to be together and some aren’t. I hope that everyone of them is living the life they want to live. I wish each and every one of them the best in life.

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  613. guest 3 said on June 17th, 2012 at 8:13 pm

    @Siska
    A star is an important part of a movie to get financing. You mentioned Salt, you do know the role was originally planned for Tom Cruise (an Actor) and they rewrote the script for Angie. Angie’s turned down more roles than offered someone’s leftovers in the past few years.. A Bond Girl, Prometheus, Serena, Gravity, to name a few. Here’s what newcomer JL has to say about Angie.

    The ever self-deprecating Jennifer Lawrence has joked that she is proud to be picking up Angelina Jolie’s “leftovers”.

    The ‘Hunger Games’ actress has signed up to star alongside Bradley Cooper in ‘Serena’, a role originally offered to, and turned down by, Jolie.

    Quizzed by MTV News about her feelings about having the ‘Changeling’ star’s parts, Lawrence quipped: “I’m not at the status where I have her roles. I have her leftovers, let’s be clear. She left it for me. I have her garbage.

    “No, that’s a wonderful place to be. I’m an actor digging through Angelina Jolie’s garbage. I’ve made it.”

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  614. Guest2 said on June 17th, 2012 at 8:25 pm

    Garbage, complete and utter garbage.

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  615. Guest2 said on June 17th, 2012 at 8:31 pm

    Siska, X17 had some pix of J/J in Rome. They’re better shots than some others I saw. I dont know if you can get to this site fro aussie but here it is.

    http://www.x17online.com/gallery/view_gallery.php?gallery=JAniston061612_X17#pic-2

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  616. Up the Coast said on June 17th, 2012 at 8:47 pm

    @Guest2:
    I agree…talk about believing anything you read :roll:

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  617. guest 3 said on June 17th, 2012 at 8:49 pm

    and Rosie -Huntington Whitely on her new acting career

    Her new acting career: ‘Would I like even a sniff of Angelina Jolie’s career? Yes. Do I think I have a future in this business? I certainly hope so. And I’m going to work damn hard to make sure I do. I’m not standing here and saying I’m an amazing actress or that I’ve had a heap of thespie training. But you’re damned if you do and you’re damned if you don’t.’

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  618. siska said on June 17th, 2012 at 8:56 pm

    @guest 3:yeah,its made you proud?,,but do you also admit that nicole k,charlize theron turn down their role and angie pick up the left over,the same with salt, tom c turn it down,they have to rewrite the movie,because…wait,,tom is a man,,and angie is woman.
    And for some movie that you saying lawrence so gladly pick up after angie turn down,do you realise that jen lawrence is a new comer and not as calibre as Tom,Nicole,Charlize or even angie?..so why do you want to bring it up,
    I already saying,its good that older woman like jen and angie still get role.
    I nevet said that your idol is nothing.she is famous and has good fan base and expensive actress,but she NOT always the first choice of movie or the only one actress with big paycheck or backend deal.
    Ja didnt earn permovie as much as AJ,but her networth is bigger than Aj or Bp separately.
    And I think most of the role they offer to jen,she always the first choice,basic what the director like seth gordon on HB or Adam S on JGWI, but jen also admit sometime she miss out on some meaty role,i think because of the rachel charactef and her public persona as unlucky in love.

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  619. joanne said on June 17th, 2012 at 8:57 pm

    Whose Rosie Huntington Whitely? If daddy is an oscar winner she have have more than a sniff and jolies career.

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  620. Up the Coast said on June 17th, 2012 at 8:58 pm

    Yea, it’s called nepotism.

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  621. Guest1 said on June 17th, 2012 at 8:59 pm

    @guest 3:
    You left off this part of the article with quotes from Jennifer Lawrence:

    “It’s not a Bradley Cooper movie — Bradley Cooper’s in the movie — it’s a Jennifer Lawrence movie with Bradley in it,” she joked. “Bradley Cooper and I are going to come out with a Jennifer Lawrence/ Bradley Cooper box set.”

    Sounds like it was a tongue and cheek interview.

    AJ was attached to this movie when Darren Arofonsky was attached to it. Both he and AJ were replaced so I think your statement of her turning it down is not correct. In fact, it is possible that Darren Arofonsky didn’t want to work with AJ so he backed out and AJ was dropped.

    Besides, Jennifer Lawrence is 16 years younger than AJ. Most likely they wanted to go with a younger actress with a current box office draw.

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  622. joanne said on June 17th, 2012 at 8:59 pm

    :lol: silly me, that should say she can have not have have.

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  623. siska said on June 17th, 2012 at 9:06 pm

    @Guest2:
    Thanks..i. do. you see that they are less lovey dovey there? He even not opening the door to her,they seem to play down their pda.what happen? I need my romance fix

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  624. joanne said on June 17th, 2012 at 9:18 pm

    In her first movie with daddy.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f9iACon8Ek8

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  625. siska said on June 17th, 2012 at 9:37 pm

    @guest 3:
    I agree thast a star is important to get the movie project get notice or even finance,but its not a guarantee to be a succesful one.just look at TOL or Wanderlust or Mighty Heart or Rumour has it or Angie land of honey which she is the main drive on it,she is the writer and the director and producer.
    So be fair and look at the fact.
    Plus stop painted that jen is still not over Bp,she divorce him and she had plenty of other men after,not because she still pining for him,because she said that relationship is just an icing on the top,that not who she is.
    Btw please give a reason why your idol Bp bringing jen name on his recent moneyball interview? If jen is not matter,he will not mention her and her marriage and backtrack his comment by saying jen is funny,a dear friend.
    He proposed and actually married her,so he might think she is worth of his love.but now they all move on..we can not deny our feeling.they all happy with their own partner.
    Oh if you still want to compare about jen and angie and jen is the loser,could you please response on why brad wait for so long to married Aj,eventhough they already together for more than 7 years and has 6 kids?
    He married jen for less than 2 years and no kid involve and no silly stuff about gay marriage equalizer.
    Jen already saying she is over marriage, she try once and she is fine without it.
    And she never drag the divorce.that not a needy person.
    Bp and Jen divorce quite peaceful, no drama.so it show both parties ite mamature and no regret.

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  626. siska said on June 17th, 2012 at 9:39 pm

    Before I get attack on my spelling,sorry for it.

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  627. Guest2 said on June 17th, 2012 at 9:45 pm

    @guest 3:
    Angie, please go to bed and get some sleep. You’ll want to be bright eyed and bushy tailed for your little tykes tomorrow.

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  628. Guest2 said on June 17th, 2012 at 9:51 pm

    @siska:
    I think Guest explained it really well. This was a tour in a church with other people around so they were more subdued. In Paris it was more romantic dinners and going to the Eiffel Tower and laughing with the paps. Maybe the Italian papparazzi aren’t as nice as the French are (hard to believe :) . I want them to go to Greece, they really should see Athens, Santorini, Crete. There’s so much history there and it’s such a beautiful country and it’s her heritage.

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  629. Guest2 said on June 17th, 2012 at 10:01 pm

    If Rosie wants a sniff of angie’s career she should go after brad. He did wonders for aj’s career. I don’t want to sound mean but that rosie is a most unattractive woman.

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  630. Guest19 said on June 17th, 2012 at 10:15 pm

    Jennifer and Justin need to go to Greece and punk the media IMO…lol. If I was a celeb I would punk them all the time.

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  631. Up the Coast said on June 17th, 2012 at 10:22 pm

    @Guest2:
    :shock:

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  632. Up the Coast said on June 17th, 2012 at 10:24 pm

    @Guest2:
    :lol: so true!

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  633. Up the Coast said on June 17th, 2012 at 10:29 pm

    @Guest19:
    Sounds like Fun…she could wear a muumuu or a fake belly all the time…oh, never mind, joLIE already did that ;)

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  634. Guest2 said on June 17th, 2012 at 10:47 pm

    I think they’re going to Greece. We’re waiting for the pix, so get moving paps. Now I’m going to sleep, good night.

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  635. Guest said on June 18th, 2012 at 12:37 am

    @Guest19:
    Most definitely. If I was a celeb and had the crap written about me that Jen does I would totally take pleasure in punking the press. I would get fake pregnancy bellies of various sizes and walk out one day with a small bump, the next with a bigger one, a few days later with none at all…send them all into a tizzy!

    And yeah they should totally go to Greece, just to freak out all the media that were carrying the rumor of them marrying there this summer. If the media was making up engagement rings and marriage proposals for them because they were in Paris, I think they will go nuts to see them turn up in Greece after the TMZ wedding talk.

    @siska:
    Well he probably didn’t open her car door since the driver was already there opening it for them. They look happy and are laughing in the photos though with him carrying their purchases, and there were a few from inside the tour where they are holding hands. But it’s not really the place to be putting on the PDA when walking or standing around sight seeing with a group of 6 other people who are attending to you (tour guide, driver, 2 bodyguards, and a couple of Vatican officials). Wherever they turn up next, hopefully you’ll get to see some more overt PDA!

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  636. Siska said on June 18th, 2012 at 2:02 am

    Thanks..I’m just worry,my romance fantasy will be destroyed if they have an argument..he..he ..even though I realize their situation a bit different than ours..she has to be a bit in control of PDA at the public outing because people will slam them anyway,,and ts hard to be romantic when you get soo many people with you.@Guest:

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  637. WR said on June 18th, 2012 at 2:07 am

    A few years ago, an un-named actor reportedly sneaked into a lab and read the report that TC couldn’t sire any children, apparently because of std’s acquired from his days as a gay hustler. But TC knew he needed to come across as a good father, and with the help of his cult, he apparently has fooled John Q Pubic.
    It was also reported that he tried to win the hand of several actresses, among them Scarlett Johansson, and Lindsay Lohan, before KH agreed to his offer. It was widely reported she was already pregnant. And the birth certificate of Suri’s was suspected to be altered as to the time. And KH had had a pillow to deceive us as to her “full-term pregnancy”.
    So, TomKat was the first to fake it. I have said several times, that there are similarities between TomKat and Brangie. I wouldn’t be surprised if TC, the top recruiter for the cult, tried to get BP into the program when they did “Interview with the Vampire” together.
    And so, I would hope that some enterprising sleuth would find out the info about BP that would tell the truth about his orientation. Also feel that this is the one big thing that aj has to manipulate him.
    There were the statements of male movie insiders who stated in no uncertain terms their hetero preference, but they could be persuaded to make it with BP because of his feminine beauty; well, that is a very strong statement about his appeal.
    If, as someone said, his peers at his high school thought he was gay, that is very telling, indeed. Also, living with Thom R. until he got his break, and TR’s subsequent torch-carrying would add to the story. Furthermore, his morphing into his significant others, and his dumping of them increases the evidence. Then, of course, the reports of his being caught getting serviced by a guy by his poolside.
    And his bitchiness regarding his ex, when he didn’t get his way.
    There’s more, of course; one just has to do the math.

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  638. WR said on June 18th, 2012 at 2:13 am

    “John Q. Public”, not the typo! lol!

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  639. Siska said on June 18th, 2012 at 2:20 am

    @Guest2:
    I understand ,I’m just a bit worry..he..he..let’s wait and see which country they will visit after..I bet will be Greece..she has family there and maybe also England will be the last stop? They might want to say hello to Louis tx

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  640. Siska said on June 18th, 2012 at 2:25 am

    @WR:
    Mm interesting ..I suspect he also get some tips from clooney,he was dated John T wife Kelly Preston and married for 4 years ( just like brad?). Anyway in Hw,bisexual seem a normal pattern for them.to fill their boredom just like drugs.

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  641. Siska said on June 18th, 2012 at 2:25 am

    @Guest2:Have a sweet dream

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  642. Siska said on June 18th, 2012 at 2:29 am

    @haki:I am with you,,we are a romantic people who will always like to see everything happy ever after than in happiness. But a bit drama it’s great and some silly guessing and conspiracy stuff make our day a bit interesting,

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  643. Siska said on June 18th, 2012 at 2:30 am

    @Guest2:John Mayer spotted wore pirate dress p costume in LA

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  644. Siska said on June 18th, 2012 at 2:32 am

    @WR:I blame on the director and script ( unfortunately jtx involve with that mess)

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  645. Siska said on June 18th, 2012 at 2:37 am

    @payal:Yep I watched it on DVD,not that great,the director seem to lost his way,imagine two famous actor and he canit make them act decent,he just let them there as a poser,the Italian background actually good,but the story and the direction of of the movie really bad.
    It’s a lot of close up frame shot at AJ,he seem quite taken to emphasis her beauty and JD seem fat and not sexy.

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  646. Siska said on June 18th, 2012 at 2:43 am

    @Tetta:
    Your welcome,I found that too,the loon and new people think we are all crazy Jen fans who so delusional to want to keep bringing Brad reunion with Jen happen,,when we just doing fun riddle.btw..it actually show how smart the regular people here with their own research and interpretation of the clue.
    People like you make this site fun.

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  647. Siska said on June 18th, 2012 at 4:03 am

    Anyone notice that Jen dress and her nipple became a hot topic in Rome holiday? Wow..people became a bit a prune just because of nipple and showing some knee.
    I will assume that Jen and Justin has so much sexual tense to appear not lovey dovey because of the location and company.its better than they have an argument.

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  648. links of London said on June 18th, 2012 at 5:11 am

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  649. Guest2 said on June 18th, 2012 at 9:09 am

    @Siska:
    It’s funny because Italian woman love to show off their cleavage so she’s just abiding by local custom.

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  650. Guest2 said on June 18th, 2012 at 9:12 am

    @Guest:
    There is a possibility that the rumors of a wedding in Greece are true. TMZ has a fairly good track record of accuracy but maybe they were deliberately fooled or punked as you say. I thought they looked really happy in Paris, almost like they were sharing a secret. Time will tell I guess.

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  651. Tetta said on June 18th, 2012 at 11:50 am

    Since Siska managed to find my romantic incurring I hope you may be right. At least I hope they visit Greece and Crets as there are a lot of wonderful places to look at.

    Ian´s last clue from yesterday, @ReneeBrodyStein http://t.co/6B6Q1rkn 1 day ago, says ” Bring back hockey where it belongs “. Bring back X where it belongs. Could it mean something ? Put back brad where he belongs ? I hope it isn´t about him. Is there a child involved with Jennifer who is in the wrong place ? As someone mentioned earlier, Jennifer allowed Brad to use hers and his embryos. If the clue was about Angelina it would be easier. Then it could mean any of the adopted kids.

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  652. Up the Coast said on June 18th, 2012 at 12:44 pm

    @WR:
    It’s been so long ago…I forgot about those rumors about TC not being able to sire a child due to STD’s. I remember when he was married to Mimi Rogers, who was older than him (just like JT’s girlfriend, who was older than him…she was the original mom on 8 is Enough), and when they got divorced Mimi was painted as the “problem”, then she got remarried and became pregnant…and made a few more catty comments, but it seemed like she was not only shut down, but her career stalled suddenly.
    As for Brad, he does morph into the women that he’s with, so what does that say about who he’s with now??? He looks hideous, and if he is gay…I’ve never seen such a filthy gay man, evah!

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  653. payal said on June 18th, 2012 at 1:35 pm

    @Tetta:
    what if it is something to with the kids?

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  654. Tetta said on June 18th, 2012 at 1:58 pm

    @Tetta:

    Correction again. I mean : ……perhaps Jennifer allowed Brad ……

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  655. WR said on June 18th, 2012 at 2:01 pm

    @Up the Coast:
    Re: the filthy aspect of bp: It’s my opinion that it’s his reaction to his pretty guy image. He wants to be taken as a serious actor, so he has to tone down his narcissistic bent. And he’s nearing 50. He now requires help to appear young.
    For 7+ years, he had the image of someone so sexy that “he couldn’t help himself” when he heard “the siren call” of AJ. This has helped both of them professionally; well, at least for a while. But time has not favored them. Also, there’s a new generation who want their own idols, so to speak. Brangie is passe, now.
    Jmo!

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  656. Tetta said on June 18th, 2012 at 2:14 pm

    When I read “Bring back….! I first and foremost thought of JP´s adopted kids. There have recently been comments about that the adoptions are illegal and that they are not real orphans since at least Pax´s and Zahara´s mothers are still alive. Perhaps they want their childs back. I have no knowledge about the law so I can´t have any opinion of my own.

    Yesterday there also were some comments about Brad´s and Jennifer´s embryos. Did Brad get one of them ? In that cast to whom did he gave it ? From a biological point of view the eventual parents to this child are Jennifer and Brad. I have a hard time to believe that scenario.

    Then there is the question if Jennifer already has a child with help of a surrogate. Does the surrogate mother wants the child back ? In this case I don´t think a surrogate mother has any rights to get the child if all legal papers are in order.

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  657. Tetta said on June 18th, 2012 at 2:33 pm

    @payal:

    There is one more option. If Brad got an embryo and someone birthed a child, does Jennifer wants that child back ? This could happen for real but I can´t believe Jennifer gave away an embryo to Brad.

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  658. iwasanon said on June 18th, 2012 at 2:40 pm

    I took a look at the tweets and I agree with what Rushdog said a few days ago. It’s hard to tell what’s connected to a clue and what’s not and also if it’s connected to the clue of the moment or the overall theme. I used to think it was connected if it wasn’t directed at a person but now I will amend that and I used to leave out the hockey stuff but I’ll amend that also. Still don’t have the whole picture but here’s some thoughts.

    On Jun 11, Ian said “open Sesame” with the pic of the drawbridge, Patty Anne had 2 suggestions “Brangelina floodgates have been opened” and “A simple, trusty means of attaining a goal.”
    I think we leaned toward the 2nd suggestion.

    On Jun 14, Ian said “too many potholes and falling bridges where my roots are. Vivre les Nordiques.”
    Potholes are disruptions in the road and falling bridges could indicated London (London bridges falling down nursery rhyme) so I think it’s possible the earlier “open sesame with the open drawbridge pic ” was meant as a disruption in London and we weren’t getting that which is why he wrote the too many potholes tweet, to say it another way.

    Not sure how the Vivre les Nordiqeus ties in to this. (what exactly does this mean? Is it Long live the Nordiques?)

    Tweets posted during this clue
    (I think the tweets are posted according to Miami time so EDT; and I think this site is also on EDT)

    Jun 11 10:20 AM posted the grooving clue

    Jun 11 9:36PM tweet – Open Sesame with drawbridge pic

    Jun 11 9:38PM tweet – Salute with pic of a city skyline (this seems to me to be a well done to the comments but this was given very early on in this clue. Maybe the early guesses were right and we are overthinking this clue)

    Jun 12 tweet – Okc ain’t Boston. Will beat Heat by sweep. (someone’s getting beat)

    Jun 13 tweet – Spyder! !! With pic of a couple in a spyder car (can’t figure this out; Spyder is also a brand that makes paintball gear and guns but this pic shows a roadster sports car, I think a Triumph which was produced between 1955 and 1962 ) (no idea except that 1955 to 62 suggests BBT to me)

    Jun 14 tweet – NHL seriously considering Nordique franchise.

    Jun 14 tweet – Pass this on – vivre les Nordiques!!!

    Jun 14 tweet – @ReneeBrodyStein too many potholes and falling bridges where my roots are. Vivre les Nordiques.

    Jun 14 tweet – no words; pic of Nordiqes team w/ Ian & pal photoshopped in (Nordiques players gathered for a photo at an October 2010 rally to drum up support for a Quebec City NHL franchise. So this is saying former players want a franchise in their city again)

    Jun 14 tweet – no words; pic of Ian & pal w/ 2 women. ( Also used Mar 16 with “His highness and the nordiques ladies”) (haven’t thought about why he only said ladies.)

    Jun 14 tweet – no words; pic of Ian & ?? photoshopped in holding sign saying “Bring back hockey where it belongs”

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  659. iwasanon said on June 18th, 2012 at 2:47 pm

    Also looking back on older tweets

    On Apr 9 he tweeted “I’ll only bang chicks in blue skirts until Nordiques return to NHL ”
    (this was 4 days before the “engagement” news broke)

    Almost sounds like “we won’t marry until gays everywhere can” (or whatever BP’s line is)

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  660. Guest said on June 18th, 2012 at 3:13 pm

    @Guest2:
    TMZ is usually pretty right about things, but the Greek wedding story was really weird. It all started more than a month before TMZ posted it when a Greek guy claiming to be related to Jen went on a Greek TV show and talked about how she and Justin were getting married there in the summer (you can watch the video on the web). The story was carried in the Greek press and then a couple of weeks later made it’s way over to US press and was carried by Star first, then the National Enquirer (both owned by same parent co.). Aniston’s rep then had to deny the story and said that she didn’t know this person who was claiming to be her relative. All of this had happened BEFORE TMZ ran with its story. This is what I found really odd because you would think TMZ would have been extra cautious given the story wasn’t new and had already been denied twice. There was nothing new about the TMZ report from that of the others, they had the same hotel listed and everything. The only thing TMZ added was that they allegedly talked to someone at the hotel who said that the reports were true and Jen had been seen there. Mostly though the TMZ article read like an advertisement for the hotel with all the pictures and information on wedding packages…which we all know Jen wouldn’t have been getting even if she was thinking about this hotel…surely she would be doing something custom given her wealth.

    Also weird about the TMZ story was that it was barely posted when it was denied again by her rep and other outlets like US were able to get a named manager at the hotel to go on record and say that Jen hadn’t been there. It made it seem like TMZ’s reporting was all kinds of sloppy which is not what I would normally expect from them. Plus, I doubt Jen herself would ever travel to check on a hotel like that (and she likely wouldn’t have been able to do so without getting papped), and she certainly wouldn’t announce to general staff that she was thinking of a July wedding when the hotel wasn’t even booked for certain. All of these sorts of arrangements would be made with fake names and through assistants. Also, the hotel was really exposed, especially to the sea and that also made me doubt Jen would ever choose it as a location for anything, let alone her wedding. It would be very easy for paps to go on boats and get photos.

    After TMZ ran with its report and the Greek wedding story became bigger news, her real Aunt and cousin in Greece spoke to Greek TV exposing the fake cousin and saying how Jennifer hadn’t been to Greece in years, and they knew of no plans for a wedding, and they certainly wouldn’t be running to a TV show to spill the beans if they did know. They noted that they are the only people with regular contact to Jen still in Greece (her dad’s sister and her son). Anyways, I posted all this to say I don’t think there was any truth to the report from TMZ, which was based on the same reports from Star, NE and Greek TV. Maybe there was a kernel of truth that they were thinking of going to Greece, or even thinking of wedding there (even this though I doubt). But the story about the hotel and her traveling there, etc., seems completely bogus. I would love her and Justin to show up there and throw everyone into a frenzy though…they should definitely punk the media’s obsession with their lives more!

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  661. Up the Coast said on June 18th, 2012 at 3:36 pm

    @WR:
    I agree that they are passe. You are probably right that he wants to be taken as a serious actor…he may have thought that hooking up with an AA winning actress would help him, be taken more seriously also, but I think he should just embrace his pretty boy looks and thank his lucky stars…..cuz he’s not a great actor or a man of great intelligence, imo ;)

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  662. Up the Coast said on June 18th, 2012 at 3:41 pm

    @Tetta:
    I’m thinking that those embryos weren’t viable, and when Jen found out, she called Brad…and they both realized that Shiloh may not be his :shock:

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  663. WR said on June 18th, 2012 at 4:12 pm

    @Up the Coast:
    Also, in a self-aggrandizing manner, (read: desperate for an oscar), he said, in 2011, that he’d retire in 3yrs. However, we were/are so used to their lies, their manipulations, etc., that we wouldn’t be surprised if his inner self decides to change its mind. Well, give the voters another go at awarding him the undeserved statuette. Jmo!

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  664. Tetta said on June 18th, 2012 at 4:51 pm

    @Up the Coast:

    Do you think this is what Jennifer´s ” dead easter egg ” was about ? I don´t want to be a besserwisser but if it is an embryo both the egg and sperm had to be ok otherwise there will be no embryo. Could it be that Jennifer has egg frozen separated from Brads frozen sperm so there never whas an embryo. If Jennifer and Brad met and decided to use the frozen eggs and sperm the doctors could see that the sperm wasn´t viable. Otherwise they couldn´t draw the conclusion Shilooh wasn´t Brad´s bio child. It could be the egg that wasn´t viable.

    I know too much about this. That is why I think it´s interesting. But I don´t think we ever will get an answer unless Ian worked undercover at the lab :lol:

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  665. Pattyanne said on June 18th, 2012 at 4:51 pm

    Spyder is any convertible sports car. The key word being CONVERTIBLE. This also ties in with another clue, an older one about Jennifer Sofa which is a CONVERTIBLE sofa, so I’m thinking this Spyder clue indicates Jennifer.@iwasanon:

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  666. Tetta said on June 18th, 2012 at 4:56 pm

    @Tetta:

    I respond to myself. That means Jennifer didn´t have any miscarriages. Her eggs couldn´t be fertilized either if the sperm wasn´t viable. Too many thought on a minor question, I know. I will stop now.

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  667. Up the Coast said on June 18th, 2012 at 4:58 pm

    @WR:
    He sounds like a spoiled child, who gathers his toys and stomps off! :lol: Maybe “hype” rehab could get him back on track? He needs to get clean, and sober up from all the brainwashing that joLIE has put him thru.

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  668. Appliance repair Santa Monica said on June 18th, 2012 at 5:03 pm

    well worth the read. I found ianundercover.com very informative as I have been researching a lot lately on practical matters such as you talk about…

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  669. Tetta said on June 18th, 2012 at 5:03 pm

    @Pattyanne:

    According to a dictionary app “convertible” means; able to be changed in form, function, or character. I agree it´s about Jennifer since Ian has mentioned it twice.

    It could be a compliment, Jennifer is easy to work with and to be friend with because she is able to handle all sorts of people.

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  670. Up the Coast said on June 18th, 2012 at 5:05 pm

    @Tetta:
    That makes more sense, that they were frozen separately and she found out later the sperm wasn’t viable. I think that would be some shocking news…

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  671. Pattyanne said on June 18th, 2012 at 5:09 pm

    In going over iwasanon’s post, I’m beginning to think this riddle is about Jennifer attaining a goal. The European “vacation”, arriving in Paris, (deflection), traveling on to Rome ( again deflection), no word on whereabouts for two days….Okay, so I’m going to say it….secret wedding in Greece is on, and Brad was not happy that she is remarrying ( midnight express to the ex)….@Pattyanne:

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  672. Guest2 said on June 18th, 2012 at 5:11 pm

    @Tetta:
    I can’t believe that either. Why would she give away her own potential child? If she did, that would be pretty shocking but I would have to hear it from her own mouth to ever believe it.

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  673. Pattyanne said on June 18th, 2012 at 5:11 pm

    No, I think Ian posts simple clues to us that do not require a lot of in depth analyzation. By pointing us toward the prime word – convertible – twice, once after it was used in Jennifer sofa aka convertible soft, we learn the word convertible = Jennifer. So it’s about her, her story in this one bit of gossip Ian became privy to. @Tetta:

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  674. Guest2 said on June 18th, 2012 at 5:12 pm

    @Pattyanne:
    Sounds plausible to me.

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  675. Pattyanne said on June 18th, 2012 at 5:13 pm

    bonded means to join together two separate entities. The busted and disgusted is when Brad AND Angie jointly put out the faux engagement announcement: Both were in on it to keep valid in their industry.

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  676. Pattyanne said on June 18th, 2012 at 5:14 pm

    Oh Ian, am I hot or am I not? LOL

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  677. Pattyanne said on June 18th, 2012 at 5:17 pm

    “giving to the poor” = Proverbs 13:7 One man pretends to be rich, yet has nothing; another pretends to be poor, yet has great wealth.

    We know to whom this refers: Brad and Angie who pretend to be rich when basicly most isn’t liquid.

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  678. Guest2 said on June 18th, 2012 at 5:20 pm

    @Tetta:
    The only way I could see her having any child of his would be if there are embryos that she didn’t want to destroy. If an embryo was implanted and didn’t take then it could be a dead easter egg. There was another guess for that clue that sounded good but I can’t remember it now. If she had her own eggs frozen why would she need his sperm. There’s no shortage of sperm in the world so I’m sure she has quite a lot to choose from.

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  679. Pattyanne said on June 18th, 2012 at 5:22 pm

    “Living In The Wisdom Of The Tao” = Observe The Flow of Water
    All of these lessons can be derived by observing how water, which sustains all life, behaves. It simply moves, and the benefits it provides occur from it being what it is, in harmony with the present moment and knowing the truth of precisely how to behave.

    ” Being What It Is, In Harmony etc.”

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  680. Pattyanne said on June 18th, 2012 at 5:23 pm

    Okay, now back to my sick bed….just this wee bit wore me out. Please Ian, some direction? Hugs!!

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  681. Tetta said on June 18th, 2012 at 5:31 pm

    @Guest2:

    Brads´s sperm is in my mind because the child would have a complete family on the dad´s side. Devoted grandparents, uncles ,aunties and cousins. I think that is an important thing for Jennifer.

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  682. Tetta said on June 18th, 2012 at 5:32 pm

    @Pattyanne:

    Patty Anne, hope you will feel better soon ! Take care.

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  683. Up the Coast said on June 18th, 2012 at 5:33 pm

    @Pattyanne:
    I hope you feel better soon…xxx

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  684. Up the Coast said on June 18th, 2012 at 5:33 pm

    @Tetta:
    Brad’s sperm is in your mind???? :shock: AAHHHHHH! Get it OUT! :lol:

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  685. Guest19 said on June 18th, 2012 at 5:37 pm

    I would hope Jen would be smart to not want Brad’s sperm and I don’t think she does or cares about it IMO. Brad vs Justin? I would pick Justin anyday or if he can’t have kids then a sperm bank.

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  686. Up the Coast said on June 18th, 2012 at 5:40 pm

    I just find it odd that Brad has always had a girlfriend by his side, then he married Jen and they tried to get pregnant….yet, through all those years he didn’t get anyone pregnant, until joLIE??? Just something to think about.

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  687. Tetta said on June 18th, 2012 at 5:57 pm

    @Guest19:

    From what I understand this happened (if it happened ! ) in springtime 2011, before she met Justin or at least before they became a couple. If there is any truth in this, I guess Jennifer thanks her lucky star that it didn´t work out with Brad´s sperm. Justin´s genes seems to be of a better quality than Brad´s.

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  688. Tetta said on June 18th, 2012 at 6:06 pm

    @Up the Coast:

    Do you think the same as I think ? That she was unfaithful to Brad ? If so, next question. Who is the dad to Shilooh and the twins. The most natural would be that JLM is the father to both Shilooh and Vivienne but do they look like sisters ? Sometimes they do, in profile. Perhaps that is enough. Knox seems to be a little alien.

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  689. Tetta said on June 18th, 2012 at 6:10 pm

    @Up the Coast:

    Brad´s sperm in my mind ! :lol :lol: Yes, they were for a while and it made me feel really bad. :eek:

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  690. Up the Coast said on June 18th, 2012 at 6:26 pm

    @Tetta:
    :lol: :lol: :lol:

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  691. louisianagurl said on June 18th, 2012 at 6:32 pm

    Jen’s booty dress…a brand of high end dresses called “Jen’s Pirate Booty” comes up again and again. Her latest white dress showed up Jolie with the leg slit and showing how to sport it…she wins this round? OR Jen is getting the spoils of something? I think it is the latter…Jen is finally getting the spoils of one of her manufactured relationships…started out as fake and turned real

    giving to the poor…spreading the wealth…”salute to the Brand/Triangle”…spread the wealth around to all involved…this was known and accepted, even manufactured by all three
    living the wisdom of the tao… When you change the way you look at things, the things you look at change…I THINK THIS MAY BE JA’S NEW OUTLOOK…and her willingness to “just go with it” and enjoy her life.
    grooving in the garden… LYRICS FROM JM’S “I DON’T TRUST MYSELF WITH LOVING YOU”
    “I will beg my way into your garden
    I will break my way out when it rains
    Just to get back to the place where I started
    So I can want you back all over again”
    I THINK THIS IS JA AND JT FINALLY GROOVING IN THE GARDEN…GETTING SETTLED IN
    like a star wiz…A song by Wiz Khlifa about living the good life off of someone else. “ Mad I found an avenue to get my revenue”…SOUNDS LIKE THIS COULD BE JT, OR AT LEAST AT THE BEGINNING…I THINK IT GREW INTO SOMETHING REAL

    oven and shaker menu…In Portland Oregon, mostly Pizza, mixed drinks and wine…concert venue for JM in Oregon is the Rose Garden…WHEN THIS STARTED WITH JT, I THINK THERE WAS OVERLAP WITH JM…MAYBE THE PLAN WAS TO HAVE THEM SEPARATE IN PUBLIC AND GET JT WITH JA FOR PUBLICITY, BUT IT TURNED INTO SOMETHING MORE…LEFT JM OUT IN THE COLD…OUT OF THE GARDEN…AlSO COULD BE A NOD TO “SOMETHING BAKING IN THE OVEN” (SURROGATE) WHILE JA CONTINUES TO IMBIBE (VODKA REFERENCES)…ALTHOUGH THE QUESTION IS WILL SHE OR DOES SHE WANT TO DO BOTH?

    midnight express calls to ex… some of the lyrics to JM’s “Friends, lovers or nothing”:

    You whisper “Come on over”
    Cause your two drinks in
    But in the morning I will say
    Good-bye again

    Think we’ll never fall into
    The jealous game
    The streets will flood
    With blood of those who felt the same

    Friends, lovers, or nothing
    You see
    There can only be one
    Friends, lovers, or nothing
    We’ll never an inbetween
    So give it up

    I THINK EX IS JM. SHE DECIDED ON JUST FRIENDS WITH JM AND MOVED ON TO JT…BUT I STILL THINK THERE WAS OVERLAP…JM MENTIONS IN HIS NEW SONG THAT HE MADE IT HARD FOR HER TO MOVE ON

    fix heated phone…YOU FIX A HEATED PHONE BY HANGING IT UP. USUALLY PHONE ONLY GETS HEATED WHEN YOU TALK ON IT FOR A LONG TIME…END OF A CONVERSATION…END OF A RELATIONSHIP/OVERLAP…FIX THE PROBLEM

    tapping into the emotional void…JT FINALLY FILLS SOMETHING IN JA THAT WASN’T THERE BEFORE…JM SPENDS TIME LOOKING INWARD AND WRITING NEXT ALBUM BY TAPPING INTO THE VOID LEFT BY JA

    Just go with it…A FAKE RELATIONSHIP THAT TURNS INTO SOMETHING MORE…JA AND JT ARE NOW REAL EVEN THOUGHT MAY HAVE STARTED OTHERWISE

    Derailed…NOTHING IS WHAT IT SEEMS…IT BEGAN AS A GAME BUT BECAME REAL…JM WAS DERAILED BY THIS

    Picture Perfect…PRETENDING TO BE SOMETHING YOU ARE NOT IN ORDER TO GET AHEAD IN THE WORKPLACE… ANOTHER NOD TO THIS STARTING AS A FAKE RELATIONSHIP AND IT BECOMING REAL

    singing to the choir…SAYING SOMETHING THAT IS UNNECESSARY…BP, JA, AJ, ALL STATING THINGS IN THE PRESS THAT ARE NOT NECESSARY, BUT LEND THEMSELVES TO KEEPING THE TRIANGLE ALIVE EVEN THOUGH THEY ALL CLAIM IT DOESN’T EXISTS

    have you ever been bonded… Being bonded means that you are able to be insured against loss or damage…JA/BP ARE THE ONLY ONES IN THIS FOURSOME THAT HAVE EVER BEEN LEGALLY BONDED TOGETHER IN MARRIAGE. LIKE KATE HAS SAID, I THINK THERE IS STILL SOMETHING GOING ON THERE…NOT A REJOINING, BUT SOMETHING…BP/JA BONDED FOR LIFE…FROZEN EMBRIO??…EVEN UNUSED…

    losing you to the crowd…I STILL THINK THAT THERE WAS A POINT IN TIME, WHICH HAS NOW PASSED THAT JA/BP CONSIDERED GETTING BACK TOGETHER…TOO MANY CLUES TO SUPPORT FROM IAN…BUT I THINK HE IS NOW LOST TO THE CROWD (KIDS, OTHER WOMEN, AJ)…I THINK JA FINALLY FIGURED OUT HOW TO GET PASSED IT

    busted and disgusted!!!! I THINK THIS IS A NOD TO THE JA/JM/JT WHEN JT AND JA FIRST STARTED TO REALIZE THEY HAD REAL FEELINGS…ALSO A NOD TO JM’S RECENT COMMENTS ABOUT HIMSELF AND GROWING UP…HE WAS BUSTED IN THE PRESS AND DISGUSTED HIMSELF ALONG WITH MANY OF HIS FANS…SEE LYRICS TO SHADOW DAYS

    Ketle One Vodka – (Ketle translates to “pot still”)…does this go along with gummy bear vodka and fruit cocktail martini’s? or is JA making the wiser choice of not indulging in both at the same time like AJ/BP….JA AND JT STILL INTO COCTAILS AND POT AS WELL…NOT SHOCKING. I REALLY DON’T THINK SHE IS PREGNANT OR TRYING TO HAVE A CHILD AT THIS TIME….EITHER ON HER OWN OR WITH A SURROGATE. NOT THAT SHE NEVER WILL…BUT I THINK THESE POINT TO A CHOICE SHE HAS MADE

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  692. Up the Coast said on June 18th, 2012 at 6:34 pm

    @Tetta:
    I do think that her “monogamy is not important” statement is more for her, than it is for Brad. Whatever she does, is easily justified with her upside down logic. She doesn’t have to follow the same rules as the rest of us, cuz she’s an “artist”, living outside the box :lol:

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  693. Guest2 said on June 18th, 2012 at 6:34 pm

    Sorry to hear you’re under the weather. Hope you feel better soon Patty Anne.

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  694. Guest2 said on June 18th, 2012 at 6:46 pm

    @louisianagurl:
    JM as the ex makes sense. There were rumors of her going to his concert when she was filming wanderlust. Then early last year Mel at Celebzter (I think it was her) hinted that she was seeing mayer if I’m remembering it correctly. Justin seemed to come out of the blue and I wondered at the time if he was a cover for her relationship with jm only because she had two public breakups with him and getting back a third time would not have been good for her image. So many possibilities with these clues.

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  695. elephant said on June 18th, 2012 at 6:50 pm

    tapping the emotional void = THE JOKE IS ON YOU
    Just had a thought, remember when JA had that interview after the divorce and she said that BP was missing a sensitivity chip or something like that? Maybe this is “tapping the emotional void” joke’s on you is her way of doing the same thing to him? Maybe she just doesn’t care about him like that anymore, she’s moved on.

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  696. payal said on June 18th, 2012 at 6:54 pm

    hope you feel better soon pattyanne!

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  697. payal said on June 18th, 2012 at 6:56 pm

    @elephant:
    thanks for the inside info you gave us on jen a few days ago.

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  698. Dream said on June 18th, 2012 at 7:57 pm

    @Up the Coast:
    it’s been a long time but u reminded me of the frozen mice clue. my minds a mess today.
    http://ianundercover.com/2011/03/22/iuc-world-exclusive/
    something about two hoppers. hopper is a chute.
    i don’t even know why i am thinking of this but it keeps nagging at me today. maybe someone will see what i can’t put my finger on.

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  699. Dream said on June 18th, 2012 at 8:16 pm

    @Pattyanne:
    get well soon.
    love ur avi btw.

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  700. guest 3 said on June 18th, 2012 at 8:29 pm

    Hey Tetta how you feel if someone accused you of stepping out with another man. And your children weren’t by your husband or called your child an alien. How awful would that be.
    Oh but I forgot it’s just the 8 year old puzzle you’re trying to solve. The hypocrisy? But you go on and on about Brad’s frozen Sperm, and possibly Jen is pregnant from brad’s fozen sperm, and Jen will have a baby by brad’s frozen sperm, B&A’s babies are not by Brad’s Unfrozen sperm and so on and so forth. BRAD’s SPERM…. Is Brad’s sperm going to make some woman $10 mil? if so, I ‘ll stand on line for Brad’s fozen Sperm.
    You should write a Book titled “Brad’s Pitt’s Frozen/ Unfroken Sperm”.

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  701. joanne said on June 18th, 2012 at 8:29 pm

    @Pattyanne:
    Hope you feel better soon.

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  702. guest 3 said on June 18th, 2012 at 8:52 pm

    @Tetta
    Just think after we are all dead and gone. Your book could be a considered a classsic on book shelves throughout the world or so rare that people would bid in the millions at a Sotheby’s auction ” What ever happened to Movie Idol’s Brad Pitt Frozen Sperm” by Tetta .

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  703. guest 3 said on June 18th, 2012 at 8:55 pm

    Sorry for not spell checking frozen.. but you get the drift. BRAD’s FROZEN SPERM….

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  704. Pattyanne said on June 18th, 2012 at 9:02 pm

    I’ve seen your previous questions and everything is fine. Now let explain about mice. “Feeder mice” is not a size, but an animal. There are different sizes of feeder mice, starting with pinkies, moving up to fuzzy mice, hopper mice, and adult mice. Hatchling ball pythons can easily eat hopper mice, but if you can’t find them, just grab the smallest adult mouse and you should be fine since there isn’t much of a size difference.
    Re: http://ianundercover.com/2011/03/22/iuc-world-exclusive/
    @Dream:

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  705. Pattyanne said on June 18th, 2012 at 9:03 pm

    BTW, I copied that information from a snake feeding site. I would never allow a snake in my home, believe me….ewwwwwww….lol@Pattyanne:

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  706. Pattyanne said on June 18th, 2012 at 9:07 pm

    JA Frozen Fromage:

    2 Adults Brad and Angie ? and/or Jen?

    2 Hoppers Two Nearly Adults frozen

    3 Fuzzies Next Size Down

    3 Pinkies Littlest of All

    @Pattyanne:

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  707. Pattyanne said on June 18th, 2012 at 9:09 pm

    Thanks for your well wishes all, the Keflex is working, and I’m feeling a bit better. Working this riddle for entertainment keeps my mind off the sore throat and “stuff”…lol

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  708. Pattyanne said on June 18th, 2012 at 9:12 pm

    Since this riddle is about JA Frozen Fromage could it be that Jennifer got custody of EIGHT frozen embrios when she divorced her husband? @Pattyanne:

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  709. payal said on June 18th, 2012 at 9:14 pm

    ian would you be able tell us or hint to us whether jen is pregnant?

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  710. Pattyanne said on June 18th, 2012 at 9:15 pm

    Frozen Fromage is terminology from the game Mousehunt.

    This small morsel of frozen bait has been magically frozen. The scientists of Digby discovered a morsel of Nutmeg Cheese is frozen inside, a known favourite of the Squeaker Claws Mouse. At its current melting rate, the ice should be weak enough to break sometime around December 23, 2010.
    Trivia: On its initial introduction on 29 November 2010, the description read as follows: ‘This small morsel of frozen bait has been magically frozen and is unable to be thawed. The King has assigned the top scientists of Digby to investigate a way to thaw the bait.’ It was updated to its current description on 16 December 2010.

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  711. Dream said on June 18th, 2012 at 9:31 pm

    thank you for humoring me pattyanne. i don’t know where i am going with this.

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  712. Up the Coast said on June 18th, 2012 at 9:47 pm

    @Dream:
    I was thinking….since nothing ever came of that, maybe Jen found out they weren’t viable and told Brad. There was also a clue, somewhere along the way, that talked about…someone owed somebody something, hahaha…anyway, if she got that in the divorce, how do you really put a price on that? Then, if they turned out to be duds…maybe she thought he still owed her? IDK….it’s too hard to keep going without any kind of direction :( come on Ian….help us out.

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  713. Up the Coast said on June 18th, 2012 at 9:53 pm

    Loon #3 should write a book called: Help…I can’t get my head out of Ange Voight’s asshole! :shock:

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  714. joanne said on June 18th, 2012 at 10:09 pm

    @Up the Coast:
    Maybe it is Angie Voights asshole. :lol:

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  715. Guest2 said on June 18th, 2012 at 10:12 pm

    @Dream:

    Great find, check out UTC’s comment and Ian’s reply:

    Up the Coastsaid on March 22nd, 2011 at 1:42 pm.

    When Jen and Brad were married they had some eggs/sperm frozen? And Jen got custody, and plans on using them soon?
    Reply..

    HisHighnesssaid on March 22nd, 2011 at 1:43 pm.

    @Up the Coast:
    Bingo!!!!!

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  716. Pattyanne said on June 18th, 2012 at 10:12 pm

    Mmmmmm, speaking of books, just imagine, Maddox is 10 and will soon be 11 y/o. Not that much longer and he ( they claim he’s a genius you know) will be able to use his laptop to write his biography. Now that is one book I will buy for sure~! Although, Pax or Shiloh’s would be a better read I’m thinking.

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  717. Pattyanne said on June 18th, 2012 at 10:13 pm

    Ah Ha~! So then that explains the , “Just because I haven’t told you I’m a mommy doesn’t mean that I am not”……@Guest2:

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  718. Pattyanne said on June 18th, 2012 at 10:15 pm

    I checked and frozen embrios are viable for at least 10 years. Perhaps that put Jennifer into high gear recently?

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  719. Up the Coast said on June 18th, 2012 at 10:17 pm

    @joanne:
    :lol: Well, then…we know it can write, right? :lol:

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  720. Guest2 said on June 18th, 2012 at 10:19 pm

    @Up the Coast:
    The failure rate for IVF is fairly high. Maybe she used up all the embryos and none resulted in a pregnancy.

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  721. Guest2 said on June 18th, 2012 at 10:25 pm

    @Pattyanne:
    I remember that clue but how could she ever hide a baby? If she can do that with the paps breathing down her neck it would be a remarkable feat.

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  722. Guest2 said on June 18th, 2012 at 10:44 pm

    She’s now writing for the National Enquirer:

    http://www.femalefirst.co.uk/board/viewtopic.php?f=40&t=315810&sid=3fc52af3b9a7743dfaf4e9b382e5941c

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  723. joanne said on June 18th, 2012 at 11:03 pm

    @Up the Coast:
    She can do it all it seems.

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  724. joanne said on June 18th, 2012 at 11:06 pm

    @Guest2:
    Shiloh lost a tooth long ago. At around 3 wasn’t it?

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  725. Guest19 said on June 18th, 2012 at 11:22 pm

    Would Jennifer hide her child though? She might want to protect her child, but there is no way I see her not claiming to have one in public.JMO of course.

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  726. Up the Coast said on June 18th, 2012 at 11:45 pm

    @Guest2:
    That is probably what happened.

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  727. Up the Coast said on June 18th, 2012 at 11:48 pm

    @Guest2:
    :shock: WTHeck??? That has to be the dumbest story she has sent out so far.

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  728. haki said on June 18th, 2012 at 11:55 pm

    I get the feeling that Jen and Justin are on the same page about having kids…I don’t think they want any!! They love having their dogs Dolly and Sophie!

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  729. Guest2 said on June 19th, 2012 at 12:18 am

    @Guest19:
    The riddles last year suggested a pregnancy with embryos. There was even that strange story in one of the tabloids last year about some dead woman advising jen to save some of brad’s sperm after the divorce. I don’t recall the details and I never understood how she would get her hands on his sperm (?!?) after they divorced. I doubt there’s a child.

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  730. Guest2 said on June 19th, 2012 at 12:23 am

    @Up the Coast:
    Maybe she had another bout with the flu and was delirious. It really is a stupid story. Poor shiloh, imagine having a fruitcake like that for a mother?

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  731. Guest2 said on June 19th, 2012 at 12:31 am

    @joanne:
    Yes, the tooth that never grew back.

    http://www.popeater.com/2009/09/24/shiloh-jolie-pitt-photos/

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  732. joanne said on June 19th, 2012 at 12:54 am

    @Guest2:
    I like the loon who said she blacked it out for her pirate outfit.

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  733. Pattyanne said on June 19th, 2012 at 1:09 am

    I have to agree with that. Jennifer said in an interview that she wanted her fans to leave becoming pregnant/having a baby to her, and that when, not if, it happened she wanted the joy of shouting it from rooftops. No, Jen wouldn’t hide a baby of hers.@Guest2:

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  734. Pattyanne said on June 19th, 2012 at 1:14 am

    That could well be, at least for now in the early days of their relationship. Perhaps they will wait until further on to adopt, or have a surrogate carry for them. I know of two couples who deliberately chose not to have children and now they are in their late 50’s and have never regretted their decision. It’s a matter of personal choice as to IF and to When.

    About the fertilized eggs ( embrios) Jennifer got in her divorce from Brad. It’s said that they were prepared for IVF should Jennifer miscarry again, and that was why they had them frozen – in case. It was done during their marriage, and Jennifer was awarded them in her divorce from her husband.@haki:

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  735. Liz E. said on June 19th, 2012 at 1:32 am

    “About the fertilized eggs ( embrios) Jennifer got in her divorce from Brad. It’s said that they were prepared for IVF should Jennifer miscarry again, and that was why they had them frozen – in case. It was done during their marriage, and Jennifer was awarded them in her divorce from her husband.”

    Seriously where in the world does THIS come from? Why would you need to retain fertilized eggs – from an ex no less – if you were prone to miscarry. Maybe you’d want to extract and store your own unfertilized eggs from an earlier age if you didn’t plan on a pregnancy until you were at an age your eggs were getting long in the tooth but not fertilized eggs. Being prone to miscarry doesn’t mean you don’t have viable eggs.

    I vote that it’s pure poppycock.

    I always liked that quote form Jennifer about wanting to shout it herself to the world if she became pregnant. That’s what she said and that’s why I have never believed she has ever been pregnant. That and the way she has made fun of the media obsession with her having a baby. It really is her business and certainly not mine.

    Guest2, that was a joke supposedly made by Sue Mengers (agent to the stars) that Brad had some good genes and jokingly chastizing Jen for not grabbing those genes to procreate when she had the chance. Who knows if she really said it? I believe that Jennifer and Sue were friends so it wasn’t meant ot hurt or ridicule.

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  736. Liz E. said on June 19th, 2012 at 2:17 am

    Meant to add, love Pattyanne’s new avatar.

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  737. Siska said on June 19th, 2012 at 3:55 am

    @Liz E.:I am with you here,I don’t think Jen that desperate to have his second hand ,unfresh sperm when she can get it fresh from the “bird” he..he

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  738. Siska said on June 19th, 2012 at 3:58 am

    @guest 3:Wow,light up! She just have fun with clues,it’s not accusation or statement.why you so work up? ..just look at Liz E,she is brangie fans,but she can understand that the riddles it’s not serious stuff and she can defend her idol without fighting words like kids in the school yard.

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  739. Tetta said on June 19th, 2012 at 4:01 am

    @Guest3 You do know this is a kind of game ? Do yo take every comment serious ? Then you are wrong. You have been here for such a long time that you must know how we try to solve Ian´s clues. When a new clue is presented most of us make a serious try to solve the clue. We search an explanation for each part of the clue and then try to tie them together. As there by then are many options the result can be real funny. And for each day the suggestions get more and more unbelievable. But sometimes someone still finds an interesting answer. This is not rocket science, you know that but you need to tell me / us we are stupid. It´s up to you to think what you want about it and write comments about it. I think Knox is cute so I´m not rude to him when I call him “a little ailien”, as it´s hard to find similarities with him and the others in the Voight / Pitt family.

    You can stay calm. I will not write a book about Ian´s clues and I doubt anyone else will do it either. But it´s bad for you that you not can´t see the fun and take part of it.

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  740. Siska said on June 19th, 2012 at 4:01 am

    @Pattyanne:
    Get well soon..chicken soup and try the propolis capsule it great to increase your antibody around cold time.

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  741. Siska said on June 19th, 2012 at 4:04 am

    @Guest:
    Love your comment,very insightful and very well research ,are you a journalist?

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  742. Siska said on June 19th, 2012 at 4:11 am

    @Guest2:Yeah,they like negative stuff..happy no drama Jen,isn’t sell but scandal poor jen more exciting

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  743. Siska said on June 19th, 2012 at 4:19 am

    Ok!in Aussie tabs ,nothing of front cover for brangiston,there small story about jusjen happy picture with a story about baby or wedding and make it or break holiday,I think they not want be look to obvious like a liar ,because last week they saying jusjen is over.
    I am laughing when I read their incredible nonsense story.,it’s entertaining.

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  744. Guest2 said on June 19th, 2012 at 8:36 am

    @Liz E.:
    I don’t know what Sue Mengers said to Aniston but the article that quoted her after her death was meant to ridicule Jen. As for saving embryos, I have have no idea if Jen has any or planned to use them if she did, just trying to work the riddle every which way. As to why women keep fertilized eggs, I have an acquaintance who got custody of embryos after her divorce. She gave her ex-husband the house in exchange for the eggs because she didn’t want him to destroy them. She believed that life begins at conception. I’ve never been in that position so I don’t know how I’d feel about it but I’d have to think very carefully about giving up my house in a divorce!

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  745. Guest2 said on June 19th, 2012 at 8:39 am

    @Tetta:
    Tetta, if you should decide to write a book about brad’s sperm, you could call it The Curious Case of Brad’s Sperm. Perhaps we should have a contest for the title. The winner gets a new brangie clue from Ian!

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  746. louisianagurl said on June 19th, 2012 at 10:02 am

    Anyone with a child knows that it is a complete lifestyle change when you have one. I think Ian has been telling us that JA has made the choice of her current lifestyle over that major change…for now. JMHO :-)

    I think this is the dichotomy between gummy bears and vodka…Ketle One…

    As for the embrios, this could be the connection between them (BP/JA), even if they never use them…they are bonded.

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  747. Guest2 said on June 19th, 2012 at 10:37 am

    @louisianagurl:
    It could be just that simple but I have to say Ian sure gets creative in transmitting the simplest of info. and we go off in some wild directions.

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  748. Tetta said on June 19th, 2012 at 11:15 am

    @Guest2:

    That´s a very good idea ! If we, the guests who come here regulary write five lines each, repeatedly, so we all will contribute to the book, perhaps we get two new clues. I think it will be a bestseller ! The Curious Case Of Brads Sperm !!!! :lol: :lol:
    :lol: :lol: TCCOBS

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  749. Tetta said on June 19th, 2012 at 11:23 am

    @Siska:

    Siska, Thank You for being on my side, once more :)

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  750. Tetta said on June 19th, 2012 at 11:26 am

    @louisianagurl:

    Interesting and very possible answer answer about the Gummibears and Vodka.

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  751. payal said on June 19th, 2012 at 12:16 pm

    @Tetta:
    yes! im in!

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  752. Dream said on June 19th, 2012 at 12:19 pm

    @Siska:
    omg siska that comment made me spit coke all over my monitor.
    lmao that was funny.

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  753. Tetta said on June 19th, 2012 at 12:22 pm

    @payal:

    Good, this will be fun ! :)

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  754. Dream said on June 19th, 2012 at 12:36 pm

    @Liz E.:
    I have an ex husband that tried to kill me, really, seriously tried to kill me. He went to court and told a judge he tried to kill me. Needless to say it was a horrible marriage.
    Not long ago I wandered across a recent picture of him. I had a good cry for all the things that could have been. I made a copy of the picture. i will probably never look at it again. But I know it’s there.
    I, of course would never in a million yrs want to even be in the same room with the man again.
    Still it’s not easy to let old dreams die.
    If Jennifer has frozen embryos it could be as simple as that, a need to not let an old dream completely die. Who can explain the heart?
    Then again who knows what kind of fertility problems she has. I take it from the miscarriage stories she does indeed have some sort of problem. Perhaps the embryos on ice are all she can produce.
    There are a million reasons why someone would keep frozen embryos. Humans do not always behave rationally.

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  755. Dream said on June 19th, 2012 at 12:45 pm

    @guest 3:
    Jolie said she has an open arrangement with brad. Being faithful to one person is not important in their relationship.

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  756. x said on June 19th, 2012 at 12:49 pm

    If she is hanging on to them, it’s not because she’s shattered and holding on to something. It’s because she and her best friend have that kind of connection with each other…much to the chagrin of some people would rather change the terms previously agreed upon.

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  757. Up the Coast said on June 19th, 2012 at 1:21 pm

    @Dream:
    Amen to that!

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  758. Kate said on June 19th, 2012 at 1:46 pm

    I don’t believe it was a joke, or that she was making fun of Jennifer. If you think back , when she died, Jennifer was sad when Sue died. It was a difficult time for her. The comment was made public a remembrance Maureen Dowd wrote on Sue in The New York Times.

    http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2011/12/22/magazine/the-lives-they-lived.html#view=sueSue Mengers, b. 1932

    “Mengers presided with a devilish wit and an angelic smile, a dirty, flirty girl with devastating timing. She was wise and loyal. She was also brutally honest, and she lost clients and friends because of it. When she started a sentence “Tip from Sue” or “Notes,” you wanted to run for the Hollywood Hills.”

    “But she had a soft, warm side; she was a yenta who loved fixing people up, in work and in love. If a match struck, she would urge the woman, “We have to close the deal.” After Brad Pitt left Jennifer Aniston for Angelina Jolie, Mengers told me that she advised her beloved Jen to ask Brad for some of his sperm.”

    It is a nice piece, with a photo of her with Ali McGraw and Candice Bergen. There are other articles with quotes from other stars who held her dear, she was beloved, and they are still loyal to her.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/23/fashion/sue-mengers-and-the-hollywood-salon-she-left-behind.html?pagewanted=all

    As pointed out above, last year when working on a riddle about the Frozen Fromage, Up The Coast guessed that Jen had won the fertilized embryos in the divorced and Ian commented back to her “Bingo” so Liz if you missed that, that is where we are getting it from.

    As for why anyone would keep them, we have discussed this many times. Just this past April a woman won custody of hers:

    The couple was given the option at the fertility clinic to choose what to do with the pre-embryos in the event of divorce. The pair’s decision to skip the provision eventually forced a landmark decision by judges in a case that previous court decisions did not cover. The court felt the ex-wife’s inability to conceive was just as vital now as it was when she was married.

    http://www.michigandivorceblog.net/2012/04/ex-wife-wins-frozen-embryos-in-unique-divorce-settlement.shtml

    There are many articles on this case, but I chose to site one because it explained why they had to take it to court. You can google -woman wins frozen embryos after divorce and you will get many cases, but if you would like to read some from the past and how messy it gets if you do not choose to prepare. I am going to assume that if Jen did keep hers, then it was something they mediated and he agreed to.

    http://www.divorcesource.com/research/dl/children/03mar54.shtmlse to prepare:

    Many women at one time are able to bear children but for whatever reason, something prevents in the future, as in the case above, she had cancer. I know a woman who that happened to. I have read several cases , and none of those involved cancer, but other reasons they could no longer produce an egg.

    My comments are not to support whether Jen is or is not or did or did not do this. I am commenting on this in relation to the riddle. Everyone has a right to their opinion, but I am baffled as to why before that opinion is stated ,and information we are using to support our conclusions is dismissed as poppycock , the poster does not take that into consideration. Everyone who visits this blog knows we work riddles, and to dismiss us that way condescending.

    As far as Jen not yelling it to the rooftops that she was pregnant before, would you? If you were heartbroken and had just lost your baby in the first trimester, would you? Our opinions on whether she was or not do not matter. However, and you can google this as well if it is still out there, there was an article where Brad did comment on them expecting. It was released overseas, and it was shortly after that, she was said to have lost that baby. Her friends rallied, and told the press to leave alone, “can’t you see she is upset” ..those who post at FF will probably know because they are very good with their research. Doug Pitt commented then on something about them adopting after the incident. I may not have that exactly right, but that is the gist of it. The National Enquirer is the more vocal publication that has printed two articles a few years apart , (after her divorce , quoting her friends , unnamed , that she had miscarried), that seems odd doesn’t it. Not one friend who has been forthcoming in the past stepped up and , bullchyt.

    Basically though, it gets down to either you believe Ian’s source, or you don’t. It is possible that what Sue really told Maureen was that Jen should get the embryos from Brad shortly after he left, but that is just a bit too invasive to print. Same idea thought, but obviously she is not going to go ask him for sperm, so it is pretty clear what she was really saying. Didn’t Angelina say they only trust The New York Times? LOL

    No offense anyone, but for those who are not working the clue, it would be appreciated if you did not talk down to us as though we were complete idiots. We are just as aware of what is going on otherwise, but it has to be dismissed to work on this.

    Nice to see you Liz, not picking on you. :) just wanted to point out we did not make it up. thanks.

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  759. Kate said on June 19th, 2012 at 2:05 pm

    @louisianagurl:

    Hi Lousianna gurl, I love reading your interpretations because you bring fresh ideas. I have questions, if the ex is indeed John Mayer, (and maybe it is) how would the Fred and Red clue fit in, that part stumps me, it does not seem to connect to JM, since there was a photo of Brad and Jen on the other post. The Grooving in the Garden part of the clue is hard to read because of the venue, and I first did think he was using that one, but then on the photo of Jen above he also spellled it Grooving.

    The song , by Daniel May , which is played in It’s Complicated, (not sure where, so if someone has not seen the film and wants to watch it and tell us, :) that would be nice) is listed as in a undisclosed scene. I do remember they smoked pot in the film and when they had sex he made that funny comment she had gone native, lol. Daniel May also does some songs that are for relaxation. Tao inspired maybe, I dunno. What do you think? How does that tie in? Does anyone remember that song in the film. I thought it was funny, but reckless to drag the ex back in , have an affair, get the kids excited, and then dump him. Never works does it when you go back. Poor Melanie Griffith found that out with Don Johnson. There was a rumored baby out there by someone else during their split, no idea if that is true, but I remember it being tossed around often. Alec and Meryl was hilarious together. Much better than Jack N. and Diane K. jmo though. although that film was funny too, but Diane K seemed to try to hard with that nude scene.

    It’s Complicated, ha sure was.

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  760. louisianagurl said on June 19th, 2012 at 3:19 pm

    @Kate:
    Kate…I have thought about some of the same things, but have not gotten them into complete thoughts…here are some of my stream of conscience ideas

    …Fred and Dave are brothers…it has been rumored that BP’s brother offered his sperm for children…also reminds me of Fred and Ginger to some degree, although I don’t know what that would mean

    …Fred and Red is a family diner that is closing due to retirement…in Missouri

    …RED reminds me of “giving to the poor” Africa campaign…also reminds me of red wine and steak…which is a nod to JA and possibly her not changing her habits…

    …It’s complicated because I think there is a layered triangle thing going on…one AJ/BP/JA which is manufactured or at least cultivated over time and then JA/JT/JM which I believe started as a fauxmance for PR with JT and turned into a real deal with JM getting “derailed”. If you remember, in the movie “It’s Complicated” the joint is given to Streep by her ex, but she ends up finishing it with Steve Martin and having a great time…I have always believed that there was a brief period when BP/JA could have gotten back together, but it was fleeting or just wishful thinking on their part…reality was too much to overcome…in the movie, SHE decides to move on. I do believe JA loved JM and he in return loved her and that there is overlap between him and JT.

    …as for “secret” baby by AJ or BP…I wouldn’t be surprised and honestly don’t think the world would be either. With AJ and BP’s history…neither one is considered a saint (except by the diehard AJ has changed group)…They have mentioned open relationships, etc.

    …I believe more than anything, and from her recent statements, that JA is in a place in her life to “just go with it”…

    Hope this helps…or jogs something for you!! :-)

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  761. payal said on June 19th, 2012 at 3:59 pm

    @Kate:

    slighty off topic but i didnt think its complicated was a good film, maybe i had to much expectation as it was meryl, stev and alec. but i felt something was off…maybe the script or maybe the actors didnt try harder. i really was excited to watch the film but i didnt like it as much as i wanted to.

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  762. janindisguise said on June 19th, 2012 at 4:17 pm

    @payal:
    I LOVED It’s Complicated! Of course, I could relate on several levels. First of all, baby boomers and the romance part of former partners. It was hilarious to me. I’ll bet they had fun making the film.

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  763. Pattyanne said on June 19th, 2012 at 4:25 pm

    I enjoyed it as well, being a baby boomer most of the hilarity hit home with me. I remember at one awards show Jennifer stating her film titles more or less followed her life pattern. Certainly seems true to me.@janindisguise:

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  764. Tetta said on June 19th, 2012 at 4:43 pm

    @louisianagurl:

    Has it been “common knowledge” that Brad´s sperm was slow or of bad quality since the rumor of Dough wanting to donate sperm is out in the air ? Then it had to be more than a surprise that Angelina got pregnant so quickly.

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  765. bg said on June 19th, 2012 at 4:48 pm

    Texas and leaked pictures (laptop??) http://www.femalefirst.co.uk/board/viewtopic.php?f=40&t=315842

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  766. Pattyanne said on June 19th, 2012 at 5:06 pm

    I especially enjoyed Derailed. It was so intense and the twist at the end was so unexpected. I thought they were two married lovers caught in a comprimising situation by a thief/blackmailer, but she was with the blackmailer, his partner and together they set-up the married businessman she was “caught” with. She did a great job playing that role imo. I’d love to see her doing more like that.

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  767. Pattyanne said on June 19th, 2012 at 5:11 pm

    Woah~! Thanks for the link, it had to have been a service person who took all these photos of JV’s home and the JP kids portraits/photos hanging on the walls. What is with THIS one??? Poor Shiloh~!!
    http://i1082.photobucket.com/albums/j366/andreamarbia6/001e3e33.jpg@bg:

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  768. Up the Coast said on June 19th, 2012 at 5:14 pm

    @bg:
    Interesting :shock: The more they try to appear normal…the weirder they look!!!

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  769. Tetta said on June 19th, 2012 at 5:16 pm

    @bg:

    No, this is no leak. The pictures were shown in the real estate broker´s site in 2011 with
    J Voight´s approval. It´s weitten in the comments at page 4. But it´s very disturbing.

    When My family sold our house three years ago the broker asked us to take away all private things as photos before the photographer took the pics and when our house were open to look at.

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  770. Pattyanne said on June 19th, 2012 at 5:17 pm

    http://i1082.photobucket.com/albums/j366/andreamarbia6/0d829b18.jpg@bg:
    Are these “costumes” body painted on?

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  771. Pattyanne said on June 19th, 2012 at 5:18 pm

    That is shocking to me, that a grandfather would knowingly allow photos of his home taken with these celebrity grandchildren’s personal photos all over the walls. It’s bad enough their parents pap them out, but g’pa too? Poor kids.@Tetta:

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  772. joanne said on June 19th, 2012 at 5:20 pm

    @Pattyanne:
    That was is weird. The baby picture of the bed is too.

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  773. joanne said on June 19th, 2012 at 5:21 pm

    @joanne:
    that should say that one is weird. and over the bed. getting old.

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  774. Pattyanne said on June 19th, 2012 at 5:21 pm

    Yes, just the one of baby Shiloh. Who is that square faced little one inbetween Shiloh and Zahara I wonder?@joanne:

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  775. Pattyanne said on June 19th, 2012 at 5:21 pm

    Aww, no you aren’t joanne, your just becoming seasoned is all. You do just fine.@joanne:

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  776. Pattyanne said on June 19th, 2012 at 5:22 pm

    I never thought about this before, but seeing the JP kids photos all over JV’s Dallas , Texas home makes me wonder why James Haven has never , that we know of definately, reproduced.

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  777. Up the Coast said on June 19th, 2012 at 5:47 pm

    @Pattyanne:
    Isn’t it Vivienne?

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  778. Pattyanne said on June 19th, 2012 at 5:51 pm

    Not sure, her/his jaw is so very square in this photo, but since it’s grandkids, it would have to be Vivienne or Knox I’d guess. ?!?!?@Up the Coast:

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  779. rushdog said on June 19th, 2012 at 5:53 pm

    @Kate:

    rushdog said on June 15th, 2012 at 2:43 pm
    I’m going the “darker” view on this after a re-think and because “busted & disgusted” is described as “unthinkable behavior caught on video” (the Fox show) or “broken-down” (urban dictionary).

    And as Guest1 pointed out up-thread it’s “groovinG in the garden” and not “groovin” so did Ian make a type-o or is the “grooving” the correct clue, I say the latter, jmo.

    Grooving in the Garden is a song by Daniel May from the movie It’s Complicated. I cannot find any lyrics but it’s played during the graduation of the son of Meryl’s character. It may be a jazz piece and not have lyrics, not sure.

    Daniel May also wrote the song Girl From Ypsilanti (again can’t find lyrics) from FIGHT CLUB.

    Synopsis of It’s Complicated film… re: Jane (Meryl’s character) has…
    “after a decade of divorce–an amicable relationship with her ex-husband, attorney Jake (Alec Baldwin). Then after ten years she starts an affair with the ex-husband. Jane’s feeling pretty empowered cheating on the woman who broke up her marriage–after all, she’s not an adulteress if she had Jake first.”

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  780. rushdog said on June 19th, 2012 at 5:55 pm

    Interesting -

    http://www.laineygossip.com/Articles/Details/23862/Brad-Pitt%E2%80%99s-World-War-Z-is-a-nightmare-movie

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  781. siska said on June 19th, 2012 at 5:57 pm

    @Tetta:no problem honey! That brangie fans so work out for silly stuff we did here. Look like some fans way to invest of their idol..he..he..

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  782. siska said on June 19th, 2012 at 6:02 pm

    @Dream:im happy to make you laugh,he.he
    I read about your scary ex,wow! You are taugh! Thank God its over.
    I understand what you said about sometime eventhough the old relation end for a reason,we still time to time,can reminiscent and had crazy though what if.its normal,specifically the good memories.
    But I truly believe that jen will nothing to do with his expired sperm,he.he

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  783. guest 3 said on June 19th, 2012 at 6:03 pm

    @guest2
    I’ll admit that was funny.

    Poor JP kids ,their Grandfather is now pimping them out with photos that are over a year old…However, you would not have known the photos exist if you weren’t lurking on JP fan sites. The photos weren’t plastered in the Tabs or posted on the internet in 2011. . Now they might be , since we know the tab interns lurk as well for anything JP..

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  784. Guest2 said on June 19th, 2012 at 6:06 pm

    @bg:
    Who posted these pics on FF???? They’re all really weird but the one of three girls is bizarre.

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  785. siska said on June 19th, 2012 at 6:06 pm

    I love the kids pictures, they seem to be free and happy.
    Btw in aussie tab, there are small article about how shiloh not reallly happy that the toothfairy gave her trivia game ,not money,i found the article quite fresh and funny.

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  786. siska said on June 19th, 2012 at 6:09 pm

    Breaking news! Johnny and Vanessa officially separated. Another one bite the dust,the main suspect, I think his pr lady. I am on the team vanessa.he..he

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  787. Tetta said on June 19th, 2012 at 6:09 pm

    @Pattyanne:

    Yes the are. ( I love my magnifier app .) It´s most obvious on Shilooh´s stomach and breast and at Zahara´s leg. You could have this photo of your children in your bedroom or any other very private place. Not for exposure for everyone.

    When you said James H doesn´t have any kids I got a quick flash of the intersexual clue.

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  788. Tetta said on June 19th, 2012 at 6:12 pm

    @siska:

    Me too ! Johnny Depp seems to be a very complicated man.

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  789. Guest2 said on June 19th, 2012 at 6:13 pm

    @Pattyanne:
    The picture is really weird but the girls appear to be happy and smiling so maybe not so bad? I thought the boy in the suit and dark glasses looked like knox.

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  790. Tetta said on June 19th, 2012 at 6:25 pm

    @Guest2:

    The kids must have had a great time ! But that doesn´t mean the photo of naked kids should be in a brokers homesite. It´s a very private photo. Its hard to say if the child in dark suite is Knox or Shilooh. There are two photos of this pic above two armchairs. On the big photo I think it´s Shilooh.

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  791. joanne said on June 19th, 2012 at 6:28 pm

    @Pattyanne:
    I thought it was vivian

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  792. joanne said on June 19th, 2012 at 6:37 pm

    None of them looked like Knox. Strange.

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  793. Up the Coast said on June 19th, 2012 at 6:39 pm

    @joanne:
    There must be a “no pictures” clause in his contract :lol:

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  794. Pattyanne said on June 19th, 2012 at 6:44 pm

    That “boy” was Shiloh. They could not have made her appear more masculine, and I find it hard to understand any parents being so intent on creating gender confusion for a child as the Jolie-Pitts.@Guest2:

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  795. Pattyanne said on June 19th, 2012 at 6:46 pm

    If you have a ZOOM feature on your computer you can enlarge it enough to recognize Shiloh.@Pattyanne:

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  796. Guest1 said on June 19th, 2012 at 6:47 pm

    @guest 3:
    I wouldn’t call FF a JP fansite.

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  797. Pattyanne said on June 19th, 2012 at 6:50 pm

    Wow, that’s certainly saying it like it is. How can you not know what the zombies look like in your film when it’s based on a book with complete descriptions of them?? Poor Brad…tisk, tisk.@rushdog:

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  798. Tetta said on June 19th, 2012 at 6:50 pm

    @joanne:

    The little one in the middle of the body painted photo is Vivienne. But perhaps the photo of one of them dressed in dark suite could be Know. I can be very wrong when I say it´s Shilooh. Perhaps Knox isn´t “a little ailien” when I can’t see the difference between the two siblings.

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  799. Pattyanne said on June 19th, 2012 at 6:53 pm

    Yes, I agree with Kate’s take on this which she posted awhile ago. It seems the best fit. I’ve searched for the past day and a half for D. May’s lyrics to that song, but as Kate stated when she posted this back then, it’s no where to be found. I even checked an old song site I used to use that had the lyrics to most everything. Guess someone will have to bite the bullet and watch the film ….anyone know shorthand? lol@rushdog:

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  800. Pattyanne said on June 19th, 2012 at 6:56 pm

    You appear to have missed this comment, so I’ll help you out:

    “The pictures were shown in the real estate broker´s site in 2011 with
    J Voight´s approval. It´s weitten in the comments at page 4. But it´s very disturbing.” Via Tetta, thanks btw

    @guest 3:

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  801. joanne said on June 19th, 2012 at 6:57 pm

    @Tetta:
    The kid in the suit looks to old to be knox. Shiloh looks like a young Jon Voight

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  802. Tetta said on June 19th, 2012 at 7:08 pm

    @Pattyanne:

    Who knows if he is able to read ? Perhaps we have found the reason he left college just before the exam ?

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  803. joanne said on June 19th, 2012 at 7:11 pm

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gGV1YvATOmY&feature=related

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  804. joanne said on June 19th, 2012 at 7:17 pm

    Although i think Born of the 4th of July was a much better after war movie. Cruise really shined in that movie.

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  805. Dream said on June 19th, 2012 at 7:27 pm

    @siska:
    i don’t think she will either and she does not want brad back any more than i want my ex back. its not the ex u get sad about. its all the dreams and hopes that died. that’s what i was pointing out. IF there are frozen embryos I could see her needing to just know they a re there.
    that’s just one reason of many that could explain no one destroying them.

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  806. janindisguise said on June 19th, 2012 at 7:32 pm

    The pics in that house of the children is more than disturbing. They don’t know what’s normal and what’s not – the kids, that is. Maybe AJ as well. Creepy. These kids are victims.

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  807. Dream said on June 19th, 2012 at 7:36 pm

    any one else look at those pictures of the kids in jv house and notice once again pax looks happy and relaxed. boy that kid must love his graddaddy.
    that sounds snide lol not meant to. i really mean it the couple of pics we have seen with jv and pax, pax looks really happy.

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  808. Cilla said on June 19th, 2012 at 7:36 pm

    Hmmmmm……..Depp separated.

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  809. Tetta said on June 19th, 2012 at 7:46 pm

    @Dream:

    If I was in a situation where I had to choose if I should destroy frozen embryos or not I would find it very had, especially if I hand´t any other kids. I think I would keep them as long as they were viable. Then I had the option to change my mind whatever decision I made at a diverse.

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  810. Tetta said on June 19th, 2012 at 7:47 pm

    @janindisguise:

    + 1

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  811. Tetta said on June 19th, 2012 at 7:48 pm

    @Dream:

    + 1

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  812. Dream said on June 19th, 2012 at 7:51 pm

    @Tetta:
    i agree.

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  813. Kate said on June 19th, 2012 at 8:23 pm

    @Tetta:
    Same for me. This is such a personal choice , and private. I can’t imagine how emotional that might be for any woman who found herself in that situation. I probably would go ahead and have the baby regardless of who daddy is or was if that was going to be it for me. It would be no different in my mind than if it had happened before the divorce, if I really wanted a baby, of course having a new love could complicate that , but I probably would have already done it by now in a similar circumstance. :)

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  814. Up the Coast said on June 19th, 2012 at 8:26 pm

    @joanne:
    I liked Coming Home better…Thanks! :)

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  815. payal said on June 19th, 2012 at 8:29 pm

    @Kate:
    agree.

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  816. Kate said on June 19th, 2012 at 8:40 pm

    Shiloh is in the sunglasses, Knox is over the bed, as a baby,if you enlarge it you can still see his droopy eyes. cutie ! The quality of these do not look good. I am wondering if this realtor did not make a deal with JV for the rental. There are no photos of his own children. They appear to be copied and blown up, posters from Walmart. Honestly, they do not even appear to be of professional wrap around canvas grade? Who hangs posters in their home? Besides teenagers? If JV had these made I would think some would be wrap arounds, that the one of the three girls would have been done tile murial or a metal one, the one in the bedroom more fractional, a thick wrap. The realtor probably had them made and he said, yeah okay if it helps you sell the house. The staging is terrible. The photos do not enhance this property. Was this when he was doing that show right after he left Venice or is this the movie he shot with James ? His brother works around Austin also. The photos do not look too alarming to me, the ones in W that Brad took were more invasive. In Mortons book, he noted her mom had to cut pictures out of tabloids to have any because Angelina did not send them. Does not look like she sends daddy any either. I will agree with Dream though , the kids look happy, and I doubt at this point Shiloh is confused, but one day she may be. Seriously, if you were going to showcase your grandchildren, would those be the best you could find? Maddox , number 1, lol, what is that ?

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  817. guest 3 said on June 19th, 2012 at 8:44 pm

    @Guest 1
    If it was posted on FF today which I would assume since you’re talking about them today they picked up the photos from a JP fansite or else they would have post them over a year ago.

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  818. Kate said on June 19th, 2012 at 8:52 pm

    @Tetta:
    I was shocked to see what some parents these day find endearing, butt naked as preschool age , formal portraits, for their homes, and displayed on their Facebooks and the websites of the Photographer. My how times have changed. We saw the senior Pitts squirting Pax down naked in the backyard in France , kid stuff really, and laughing,but it ended up in published so that we saw it. It use to be so innocent. I remember when kids up to about 10 use to just strip down at the beach and change. lol The pervs have made the innocence of it all dirty.

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  819. Kate said on June 19th, 2012 at 8:56 pm

    @rushdog:
    Hi Rush, thanks. I asked Ian , 2 times, if this was the shocking clue, thought that might help everyone a bit, but he did not answer that question. Not sure why that would be sensitive, but for whatever reason, he left that unanswered each time. FWIW.

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  820. Guest1 said on June 19th, 2012 at 9:13 pm

    @guest 3:
    Could have also come from a gossip site. But you could be correct. Personally I don’t visit any celebrity fansite.

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  821. Guest1 said on June 19th, 2012 at 9:15 pm

    @Kate:
    Hopefully we will get his answer soon in the form of the shocking clue!

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  822. guest 3 said on June 19th, 2012 at 9:31 pm

    @Guest 1
    Let’s think logical here. JP fansite found photos that are over a year old and posted them..All of of a sudden, out of the Blue, FF (I’m assuming here since I don’t go to this site) posts the same photos the same day . But I think my assumptions are correct because your talking about the photos today. Photos that have been in existence for over a year. And now you’re analysizing each photo to determine if each child is happy, sad, who they look like, who they dress like, what they smell like, based on year old still photos hanging on the wall of their grandfather’s home. They are children for goodness sake.
    Wouldn’t it be nice that someone thought JV loves each and everyone one of them equally regardless of who was biological or adopted. I certainly have newfound respect for JV…
    But I guess it just a way to avoid the horrible reviews for ROA. Remember, JTX wrote the script for this flop and most critics are blaming the weak writing and direction for its failure..they actually praised TC for his short performance . For months, all I heard from JA fans…. he’s famous and rich you know he wrote the script for ROA, he wrote the script for ROA and IronMan, he wrote the script for ROA and Ironman, you know he wrote the script for ROA. Can’t wait forJA and JTX coming out for the RC premiere for ROA..What happened? Don’t want to talk about that anymore.
    IWho do you think is next for the Break-up story? (only kidding). They will be in Greece next (wink, wink).

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  823. siska said on June 19th, 2012 at 9:36 pm

    @Tetta:Midlifecrisis?

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  824. Kate said on June 19th, 2012 at 9:37 pm

    @Pattyanne:
    I think it may be an instrumental, but not sure. It says it is performed by him in the film so I guess we would have to identify the scene,but I am doubtful Ian took it that far, but I am not dedicated enough to do that. I would make a terrible investigator, are we done yet ? Ha ha

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  825. siska said on June 19th, 2012 at 9:40 pm

    @Dream:II think she will def decide about it long time ago,they been over for7 years,why she has to wait that long? There are no embryo,only rumour,but its fun to think about it.
    For guest 2,i think the picture of the kid,def shiloh. She look like little brad.

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  826. Pattyanne said on June 19th, 2012 at 9:45 pm

    I’m more comfortable with : In The Library, With The Candlestick, Mrs. Plum. lol BTW, you had no idea about Derailed and I’ve tried to figure out how it would fit as a clue but can’t tie it in anywhere. It’s two supposedly married business people who meet up on the train they take to and from work. The begin an affair and are interrupted by a thief who becomes their blackmailer BUT….the blackmailer is the partner to Jennifer’s character in the film and she , with partner’s help, set up Clive Owen to be blackmailed. Jennifer was in on it with the blackmailer. Now how the heck would that fit anything??@Kate:

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  827. siska said on June 19th, 2012 at 9:49 pm

    @janindisguise:
    They look happy and like kids with their love of playing dirty stuff or dress up.i surely hope they not like you suspected as victim,for whatever reason our dislike of Aj,i surely hope she still a good mum, because Bp seem to love her and stick with her longer than any other women,incl Ja.
    I am hoping that Hw not that cynical world anyway,specially I dont think Bp parent will announce that they adore Aj if she is a bad mum,maybe she isnt typical housewife,but she seem ok.
    She might be a liar or fame hungry,but dont think is an evil mum,but who knows,only when the kids grew up and started talking to public,we might know the truth.

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  828. Pattyanne said on June 19th, 2012 at 9:50 pm

    Mmmmm, It’s complicated?@Kate:

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  829. siska said on June 19th, 2012 at 9:58 pm

    @guest 3:ow..why you want to bash jtx who only part writer of this movie,btw he mostly writing tom cruise character,and if you bother to read the review,his character actually the best part of the movie.
    Btw because you try to blame on jtx,i will pointed out that your lovely idol Aj declare she is the sole writer and director of her honey movie,but that movie flop in the box office and she work very hard to promote it,even willing to do live question and answer and 60 minutes interview,vanity fair with pictures of her kids in the background,
    And even do leggate just to keep in the public.

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  830. Guest2 said on June 19th, 2012 at 10:02 pm

    @Tetta:
    I agree with you the pictures should be kept private, I just meant that the photo of the three girls with body seemed weird to me but since the the girls were smiling it’s okay maybe. I think you’re right that it’s shiloh in the picture. She and knox bear a strong resemblance to each other, imo.

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  831. siska said on June 19th, 2012 at 10:46 pm

    Kristen s no1 highest paid actress, Aj no4 for maleficent.,but her camp saying its from residual her old movie,which a bit nonsense and Ja no10,for wanderlust and residual friends.
    So for guest3,angie is Not the highest paid actress just like your bragging about it.

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  832. siska said on June 19th, 2012 at 10:49 pm

    @siska:
    because the money mostly come from upfront fee maleficient

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  833. Kate said on June 19th, 2012 at 11:13 pm

    @Pattyanne:</

    I was looking at it in a more general sense . If someone just looked at the discription on the movie page for IMDB it is loosely discribed as two married business executives having an affair being blackmailed by a violent crimminal, they have to turn the table on him to save their family. If one did not eTch the film and only read that, then the general idea is, just that these two are trying to outwit a evil blackmailer. Who could that be? lol

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  834. siska said on June 19th, 2012 at 11:15 pm

    I just throw this out there,I saw on tumblr there are picture of jen with matt le blanc outside the friends shoot which she kiss him on the mouth and second picture she try to wipe her lipstick on him. I think she still married with Bp that time,basic on her hairstyle seem like the same time of along come polly movie?

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  835. Guest said on June 19th, 2012 at 11:19 pm

    @siska:
    Actually Jen’s earnings were not for any movies (other than residuals or backend). Wanderlust and Horrible Bosses would have been counted for the previous year per Forbes reasoning. The period included was May 2011 to May 2012, and she had already filmed Wanderlust at that point, and that was included in her previous years’ salary.

    Still $11 million seems low despite her not having any movie money to include, because she has Friends residuals, Smartwater, perfume, and previous film’s backend and residuals to include and I would think that would total more than $11 million for the year for her. The Jolie amount shouldn’t have included any films since she filmed none in that period, but the $20 million they attributed to her seems quite high for just commercial, residual and backend money.

    Whatever the real amounts are, Stewart isn’t the “highest paid actress” she’s the highest earning for the year. Highest paid would still have to be whoever earned the most per film.

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  836. Kate said on June 19th, 2012 at 11:22 pm

    @guest 3:
    You started out sounding rather respectful, and ended sounding like you are part of the sites you say you don’t go to. I have not seen anyone here chanting that childish banter . I think you have us confused with another board. ;)

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  837. Guest said on June 19th, 2012 at 11:23 pm

    @siska:
    Those photos are from spring 2004, and there was nothing to them. They were (probably are) close friends and they simply kissed each other goodbye…not sure what you are getting at about them?

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  838. Kate said on June 19th, 2012 at 11:24 pm

    @siska:
    I don’t know, I don’t think Ian would lie.

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  839. Capri said on June 19th, 2012 at 11:37 pm

    @Pattyanne:
    :) Maybe Jen and AJ set up Brad. Brad’s passive aggressive seems to wear his women down. Perhaps he was plagueing Jen with things beyond her control and Jen knowing her husband, decided to give him all the things he claimed to want. JA and AJ were both living in NYC for a while, who knows if they ever came into contact with each other. Either way JA was well aware of AJ’s reputation, her bff was CCA who was the SIL of ArquetteCage. Jen is also acquainted with LDern. Who’s to say that JA felt that AJ deserved to steal another man? One that would be the ultimate pay back. Hollywood is a small world. Officially these two ships passed in the parking lot near the Friends set. Who’s to say it wasn’t more than that. Jen is warmth, no goody two shoes, with a earthy sense of humor and a somewhat ribald vocabulary. I can see AJ the outsider being drawn to that…wanting to be that, wanting what JA had.
    Just before MAMS while her BBT marriage was ending, AJ decided to get an image makeover. She has become quite matronlygrandmotherly in appearance. Practically June Carter Cash. Is this how she imagines respectable Ladies? She certainly has tried to have the life that was once expected JA to have while now JA has excitement, appears to be living her life to the fullest enjoyment with one fine (in soooo many ways) man :) Except for AJ’s quite open drug culture and the multiple partners…JA is living with freedom that she hadn’t had with Pitt. They, JA and AJ have switched places to a small degree. JA has her freedom and AJ has a respectable alliance with her trophy man and trendy trophy family.
    If there was a deal, they both got what they asked for out of it. That is certainly complicated and more than shocking that these two were the conspirators engineering the plot. :)
    This was just for fun… I”m a total loss at remembering the clues or putting them together. I was just having fun with the thought that Patty Anne made me think of.
    Thanks for the laugh. It was a real pick me up after a hard day and an escape from pure nerves. BBL.

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  840. Dream said on June 20th, 2012 at 12:04 am

    @guest 3:
    Wouldn’t it be nice that someone thought JV loves each and everyone one of them equally regardless of who was biological or adopted.

    i have never seen one single person on this site say or imply that he does not. on the contrary i believe we have on several occasions discussed how he appears to spend time in his grandchildren lives as they seem so comfortable with him in the pics we have seen.

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  841. Guest19 said on June 20th, 2012 at 1:30 am

    I guess I might be the only person naive enough to want to believe that not everything in hollywood is so calculated lol. I don’t care about Brangelina, but gosh I hope they are good parents because I would hate for those kids to be messed up when they grow up and write tell all books. I don’t like how they are always travelling but who am to judge. I am sure travelling is something I would love to do with my kids (if I am blessed with them), but kids imo need stability and those kids don’t seem to have any. I think they are also like the attention they get as a couple but so do many other celebs. I guess I have just seen so many terrible people that I wouldn’t even clamp them among those people. Also I think all the biological kids are his and they even look alike. I also don’t think he has any other kids out there with anybody else.

    As for Jen who I am a fan of by the way. I think she is a good person at least from her interviews and encounters from some of my friends. Unfortunately she had to deal with her husband cheating on her like many other women. Hers was just public and the media had been so invested in her relationship. I think she divorced her husband, had a hard time moving on (like many women), but managed to do with grace. Now when it comes to kids. I doubt imo that Jen would be habouring over anything to do with her ex where kids are concerned. Maybe it’s just me, but come on do I really think that their are some fertilized embryos out there that Jen is so attached to using? Heck no. Nothing IMO scream more delusional than that. If Jen wants a kid and the qualities she preferred were Brads, there are dozens of other men who would have just as much qualities and if not more. And also if she has frozen eggs I doubt any of them are fertilized or will be fertilized by anyone who she isn’t married to or in a relationship with. If she was also able to have viable eggs at whatever age she got them then she still had just as much chance to get new eggs after her divorce and forget any that she had saved up during her marriage. I guess I just don’t see how a sane person and she does seem sane (more so than 85% of hollyweird) would still want to have a baby with someone who hurt and humiliated her in a so public way.

    IMO I think Ian likes getting a raise off our opinions, but IMO it is getting really old in that all we do is go around in circles. His “new clues” have become a bunch of blinds that are either true (I have my doubts) or not at all.

    Now please don’t bite, but I needed that rant…lol

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  842. Guest19 said on June 20th, 2012 at 1:46 am

    I am also not going to assume that Jen can’t have kids just because she hasn’t had them. She was married for 5 years and in those years she was still doing friends. IMO if she becomes a mom she seems to me like she would be a Jennifer Garner type of mom (hands on etc). Friends ended and her marriage fell apart. Maybe she had doubts about marriage and just didn’t want to bring a child through any doubts and I wish more women would think this through without having kids thinking they will save anything. That is not a reason to have a child at all. They are not purses that you just buy to feed of a shopping obsession. Maybe she does have problems conceiving but we have no way of knowing that. I also find it absurd that the media expects her to have kids with anybody she is dating. She has only had 3 serious relationships counting Justin since her divorce. IMO JM was not someone I would have expected her to have kids with anyways (talk about having a heart attack with a manchild as a father of your child). With Vince it was more of a rebound relationship. Again not ideal for a child. I don’t get the notion that as long as you love your kids that is all that matters. No that is being unrealistic. You have to think of the emotional, physiological, and all that stuff that would affect your kids. People like to think that as long as you love your kids that all that stuff comes secondary but IMO I don’t agree with that. There has to be a balance between love and wanting your child to grow up in the best possible environment. The only person I could see her having kids with is Justin and that is because she seems to now be ready to try the whole marriage and family thing again. Before (after Brad) I didn’t think she was ready and I also applaud her for not doing things just because the media is pressuring her to do so. She also didn’t get re-married just for the sake of it.Whenever she does have kids (I say this because I believe that is what she wants from her own mouth and not some secondary outlet) I do think she will make one great mother.

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  843. Kate said on June 20th, 2012 at 2:08 am

    @Guest19:
    I am not sure I understand. We have worked these riddles for years based on our belief and trust in Ian as an investigative reporter and trusting his sources. I am not delusional. If you don’t want to work the riddles then don’t, but please do not insinuate that those of us that consider Ian a friend and trustworthy are delusional. You are entitled to your opinion,but that is offensive.

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  844. Tetta said on June 20th, 2012 at 6:53 am

    @Guest19:

    Even if all of us sometime go crazy and think Ian´s clues are too hard we still enjoy to try to solve them. We even have IUC as a place to meat at. The main thing is Brangiston but you also must have noticed that we sometimes “derail” and discuss other things. I must say I have learnt many interesting things about items outside the entertainment sector. We also learn to know each other but it takes time for a newcomer to be trusted and slowly make us shure the person is who he / she says she is.

    The question if Jennifer has sperm or embryos left since her marriage to Brad we never will get to know. At least i don´t think so. But we can never say what is right or wrong to do with them. IF Jennifer has problems conceiving or has problem with miscarriages it´s only her´s and eventually Brad´s problem to decide if and how to use them.

    If you ask 100 couples who get fertility treatments and ask them how they want to do you get at least 75 different answers. It depends on so many personal things that you don´t know about. That´s why I don´t think we can say, Jennifer ought to do in this way or that way. Jennifer has said several times that she wants a family. I agree with you about this question. But perhaps she has realized that she can live a full life without children. It´s completely up to her. If we discuss some questions around this on a blog that mostly have mature reasonable guests , and almost never cross the borders and write something we don´t ought to comment, then we don´t hurt Jennifer. If we sometimes cross this border we apologize and explain why we wrote it. Perhaps it´s needed to explain how you think about something.

    If you keep following IUC, focus on the positive side and enjoy it together with us all.

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  845. You asked said on June 20th, 2012 at 6:57 am

    @Kate:
    Just curious, Kate. Have you met Ian face to face or are you just friends in cyberspace?

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  846. Tetta said on June 20th, 2012 at 7:12 am

    @Dream:

    Dream, it´s wonderful if JV has a good relation with his grandchildren. I really wish he has that and he can be a constant in their lives. They also seem to have fun when they see Brads parents.

    But what we discuss right now is whether it´s a good idea to show this pictures in public, to people he doesn´t know. It´s not the fact the children are well known, it´s the fact they are to private. No one ought to sell their home showing such pictures.

    @Gues2 I didn´t mean to sound mean when you said the children seemed to have fun. Most children loves these things. But it´s the same here imo. It´s the wrong place to show them.
    In some countries in Europe it forbidden by law to show children’s faces to be recognized. I guess JV doesn´t have the right to decide about the photos. it has to be up to the parents and their opinion.

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  847. Guest19 said on June 20th, 2012 at 8:25 am

    Please don’t put words in my mouth. No where did I call anyone delusional or question their belief on Ian or any riddles. I posted my opinion respectfully without calling and soul names. I don’t have to share an opinion with any one and my opinion on it isnt going to change and I expect yours not to change just because I want mine to have more value than yours.

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  848. Guest19 said on June 20th, 2012 at 8:28 am

    And ugh to iPhone auto correct.

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  849. Guest19 said on June 20th, 2012 at 8:33 am

    If we all shared opinions the world would be a lonely and uninteresting place.

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  850. Siska said on June 20th, 2012 at 8:36 am

    @Kate:I don’t think she said that your are delusional ,she just started her opinion quite clearly and i don’t find that she intended to slam on us,she might quite tired with the clues that I had to admit sometime its out of my mind.i don’t always think that Ian tell lies or true,he running a business with this blog,so sometime he will put up clues that made us stick to his site,it’s a smart business move.
    So let’s agree to disagree,and don’t get upset just because someone get upset with something.
    We never knew the truth specially the Hw lives, Ian isn’t Jen ,so he still can get wrong if he get wrong source of info.
    What dream,guest 19 and me had in common was we think is sound impossible for a woman who quickly filed a divorce to her hubby because what we commonly suspected that he fallen in love with Aj will kept a sperm or embryo from her ex for 7 years.
    But others can disapproved,but it’s an opinion.and as Jen fans,the notion of Jen pining over brad ,made her look like pathetic,needy person,who I never think she was.thats why sometime her other fans felt a bit emotion when we throw some kinda accusation about it,even though it’d just to guess a riddle,which we never knew the final answer anyway until it’s revealed itself,I don’t know when.
    This triangle it’s addicted ,I suspected all along,all of brangiston had part on it,mostly to maintain their fame.

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  851. Siska said on June 20th, 2012 at 8:46 am

    @Guest19:
    I like what you saying and understand as Jen fans you can be a bit upset when they try to solve a riddle by accidentally making Jen look like needy person who still hang up on brad.
    I am agreeing with you that if Jen is a smart woman( which I think she is,she consistently on the forbes rich and powerful celeb and very level headed) she will less unlikely to hold on th brad expired sperm.
    She might has an egg kept somewhere for save keeping consider her age,but a fertilized egg or sperm from brad,it’s sound impossible.
    I think we should not take this riddle or people who try to work out this riddle too serious that make us upset for nothing,it’s just a fun thing to do,and it’s not even effect our real live,it’s their life.

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  852. Siska said on June 20th, 2012 at 8:49 am

    @Guest:It’s fun to guess,i love soap opera kinda drama,so in my imagination I think maybe because her hubby already found someone else to fill his heart,Jen might has some fun on the side,he,,he.dont shoot me,I’m just doing fantasy stuff,it’s not an accusation.

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  853. Siska said on June 20th, 2012 at 8:50 am

    Same happen to me..auto correct sometime can be a pain@Guest19:

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  854. Siska said on June 20th, 2012 at 9:00 am

    @Kate:He running a business not just a pure journalist,and he never admit it the final answer to the riddle and he isn’t Jen,he rely heavily from his source,and source can be authentic or just lies.
    So I never think this stuff as pure truth,we never knew the real truth until its being openly leaked and confirm by the real source as a brangiston,and they knew how to kept it secret and making us guessing,
    I like this site cause we can talk about our obsession about them with fun and intellectual sometime silly conversation.so don’t get upset just because we all not all believe on Ian clues.
    I still love to to read your input,cause its seem you are the closer to Ian and knew well his style and you seem very smart.
    Sometime as a fans of certain idol,we get work out when the clues painted our idol not as great,it happen,that including Ian ,he not always right,journalist can be wrong when their source is wrong.

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  855. Siska said on June 20th, 2012 at 9:09 am

    @Guest:Yeah I am a bit confuse with that list either it’s about what they earn per movie or income per year ? It’s seem to imply as what the actress charged per movie ,so to said that Angie earned 20 million from residual kick back movie,which I don’t think so,cause Jen out earn it with her friends syndicate,that’s why I think she got some malefiecient money already.
    And if wanderlust movie didn’t include to that list,she seem doing ok just for smart water and friends money,her perfume not doing so well,I think the marketing a bit weak,I love the perfume,even though not lasting long,

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  856. Siska said on June 20th, 2012 at 9:14 am

    Ok goodnight everyone ,please don’t get upset if I happen accidentally saying silly stuf that offended to you,peace my dears.!!!

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  857. guest 3 said on June 20th, 2012 at 9:31 am

    @Siska
    OH now JTX was only a part time writer, he wrote for just one character. I get it, but for months all you talk about, not you personally how he wrote the script for ROA. Doesn’t that sound ridic, with so many characters in the movie the studio hires/pays a witer just to write for one character.
    @Kate
    The hypocrisy, I’m being disrespectful but you can talk about ITLOBAH being a flop. A movie by the way, played in less than 20 theaters in the US. with a $13mil production budget, partially financed by the BA and still managed to be shown at the White House, honored by the Producers Guild with the 2012 Stanley Kramer Award and still receiving critical acclaim around the globe.. Would Angie have loved for the movie to recoup its budget? I’m sure she would have. But, a movie losing $13mil is a drop of water in a bucket compared to movies losing $50 mil-$100mil (cough) Wanderlust, ROA..

    John Carter, Battleship, Dark Shadows, stand to lose between $100mil-$200 mil. We can also add, Prometheus( $130 mil production cost) and Snow White and the Huntsman ($170mil production) to the list, these number don’t include advertising/marketing costs. If you apply those numbers, Prometheus needs to generate $260 mil and SWATH $340 mil to break even. They are not going to make a profit for the studios at the BO. They will be lucky if these films break even, which I doubt. Unless they do Blockbuster business in Home Theater sales/rentals.

    What I find it interesting, is that Forbes named Jolie the 4th highest paid actress in HW in 2011 and she hasn’t filmed a movie since 2010 . It could be the backend deals for TT and Salt and a % of home theater sales/rentals for those movies.. JA barely made the list and she had her perfume/water deals and two movies .

    It’s been well-documented that Angie is a very savvy business women. A photo of her in costume for a movie that won’t be released until 2014 is trending all over the world and being picked up by every media outlet. Last time I looked there were about 400 articles on Google.

    But I forgot the JP’s are broke and nobody cares about them..

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  858. guest 3 said on June 20th, 2012 at 9:56 am

    I recently bought my daughter some TOMS because the JP’s kids were sporting them in photos way before they came out on the market. They are the hottest shoes in NYC. She said ” Mommy I love them, they feel like bedroom slippers”. I bought the ones with designs , however they come in solid colors. What’s so great, is that they’re made from recyclable materials.

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  859. Guest1 said on June 20th, 2012 at 11:16 am

    @guest 3:
    Never heard of them, and I live in close to NYC. Are Toms a brand or a style of shoe, or both?

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  860. Up the Coast said on June 20th, 2012 at 11:56 am

    Holy crap on a cracker! :shock: Has JJ, Cbitchy and BooHoo shut their doors???

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  861. joanne said on June 20th, 2012 at 12:01 pm

    Meryl Streep must work cheap since she is one of the best out there.

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  862. sinker said on June 20th, 2012 at 12:04 pm

    more clues, please!

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  863. Kate said on June 20th, 2012 at 12:39 pm

    @guest 3:
    Not following you, I don’t think I have talked about the finances if any of these films, and couldn’t care less, who makes what.

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  864. Kate said on June 20th, 2012 at 12:54 pm

    @sinker:
    not upset, but the implication was clear, Ian stated it as fact, not rumor or a maybe, which is what we were going off of at the time, so no I don’t think it is delushional to accept that, but everyone has a right to their opinion. I have never understood why though posters that post here persist on with with the “I don’t believe Ian ” , but Ian can defend himself. :)

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  865. guest 3 said on June 20th, 2012 at 1:09 pm

    @Guest1
    Look them up Toms.com.. Obviously, you don’t live in NYC or else you would know about Toms. Even in the outer boroughs.

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  866. Guest2 said on June 20th, 2012 at 1:17 pm

    @Up the Coast:
    Does someone have a contract shilling for shoes now?

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  867. guest 3 said on June 20th, 2012 at 1:22 pm

    @Guest1
    Look up Toms.com the official site. Adults and kids alike have been sporting them in Manhattan since the Spring. Sorry, you haven’t heard of them. But, my girlfriend in Queens said her daughter has been begging for a pair. She ordered her two pair for summer camp. So they are well known in the outer boroughs too.

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  868. Guest2 said on June 20th, 2012 at 1:25 pm

    @guest 3:
    This is boring, no one cares. The costume is ugly, she looks like a bull.

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  869. Dream said on June 20th, 2012 at 1:26 pm

    @Tetta:
    guest 3 said we did not think voight was a good grandfather to all his grandchildren.

    i feel we have on more than one occasion have said we thought he does appear to love and spend time with all the children.
    as for those phtos in the house. they do not look like anything he put out.
    the one of the three girls painting themselves and the one of voight and pax both look to me like they were probably originally small framed prints. and as small prints the one of the girls would not be objectionable. just a cute pic on a table of framed pics.

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  870. Guest19 said on June 20th, 2012 at 1:30 pm

    @Siska it’s all good. I am not going to defend my opinion as I am entitled to that just like everyone else, but it’s not something I am going to go over and over with coz it’s not that serious…lol. Anyways your posts make me laugh with all the Romanticism. You should be a romance novel writer:-)

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  871. Up the Coast said on June 20th, 2012 at 1:31 pm

    @Guest2:
    Well…..she IS full of bull-shit!!! :lol:

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  872. Dream said on June 20th, 2012 at 1:32 pm

    @guest 3:
    i think the problem is you have lost an earring in the basement but are looking for it in the living room cause there’s more light.
    your arguments and complaints seem to be about things you have read on other sites.

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  873. Dream said on June 20th, 2012 at 1:35 pm

    @Guest19:
    lol glad ur not taking this all too seriously.
    i agree siska has some romantic ideas. but its been fun seeing her point of view along with everyones.
    i always say there’s room for a whole lot of opinions here. that’s the nice thing a bout this place.

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  874. joanne said on June 20th, 2012 at 1:37 pm

    @Guest2:
    Al Bundy is posting I guess. :lol:

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  875. Up the Coast said on June 20th, 2012 at 1:38 pm

    I think she would be great in a remake of Pinocchio :) They could put one of those horns on her nose! She’s lifeless and wooden…again, it would be typecasting.

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  876. Up the Coast said on June 20th, 2012 at 1:38 pm

    @joanne:
    :lol: It took my a minute… :lol:

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  877. Guest19 said on June 20th, 2012 at 1:44 pm

    @Dream. You can’t take everything too seriously in life…lol and I like reading different opinions and I like that this place does allow that in a disrespectfully way. If we all wanted crazy we would go to celebitchy or some other site.

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  878. Guest said on June 20th, 2012 at 1:45 pm

    @Siska:
    The Forbes amounts are for the year: May 2011 to May 2012 (so can and do include multiple films, residuals, backends, etc.). This is why I said that they don’t equal who is the highest paid actress, just who earned the most for that period of time. You would have to look at individual film salaries to find which actress earned the most per film, therefore making her the highest paid.

    @guest 3:
    Jolie’s Louis Vuitton commercial contract formed part of her supposed amount on the Forbes list. She would make no where near $20 million in residuals and backend pay from films prior to 2011. As already stated, Jen’s amount didn’t include any films at all (other then residual and back pay) as films released during the period counted (Horrible Bosses and Wanderlust) were filmed and counted during the previous year. So, like Jolie, Jen earned a spot on the list simply from commercial endorsements and residuals/backend. They are the only two who didn’t have primary film salaries included, but yet earned spots on the list.

    @Guest19:
    Total word to this post and your other two. Very respectful posts.

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  879. Guest2 said on June 20th, 2012 at 1:52 pm

    @joanne:
    I’m slower than UTC in getting this :(

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  880. Guest19 said on June 20th, 2012 at 1:56 pm

    I meant respectful. Auto correct on iphones is annoying..lol

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  881. Tetta said on June 20th, 2012 at 2:09 pm

    @Dream:

    As usual we don´t have the real facts about the pictures inJV´s house. But if he love his grandchildren or not is a complete different question. From the few picturs of JV and his grandchilds seems to get along very well. I guess he wants to see them a lot more but as they travel a lot he don´t have the opportunity to do so. We have also seen many pictures of JV with Angelina and JH when they were small kids and from what I can see he seemed to have a good connection with them. Of course you can´t draw any conclusions from photos alone but it looks like he love his own children and his grandchildren.

    Both you and I have said, in comments to this clue, that it´s a good thing if JV loves his grandkids. You said it in a comment about the photos and I said it as an answer to your comment. Where dose Guest3 says this ? I guess it´s in a comment here but I can’t see it.
    It sounds weird as both of us wrote about it in a positive way.

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  882. guest 3 said on June 20th, 2012 at 2:33 pm

    No I’m not shilling for shoes but I will promote a cause that are helps the environment and also provides a pair free pair of shoes to the unfornunate…Again, I’m proud of the JP’s..

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  883. guest 3 said on June 20th, 2012 at 2:36 pm

    That didn’t sound right… Helps the environment and provides a free pair of shoes to the unfornunate.

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  884. joanne said on June 20th, 2012 at 2:39 pm

    @Guest2:
    the shoe salesman from Married with Children.

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  885. joanne said on June 20th, 2012 at 2:41 pm

    Not flying private jets all the time helps the enviroment.

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  886. joanne said on June 20th, 2012 at 2:42 pm

    I am proud of my children and mate.

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  887. Kate said on June 20th, 2012 at 3:04 pm

    @Guest19:
    G19, no of course not, I apologize if I offended you by my comment, it is just my nature to question things when it hits me like that, and it felt offensive. I probably should not have said anything. We talked about it for two about 15 months now so maybe time to let it go. I think because Ian continues posting baby clues though , it makes it hard for us to ignore, and he didn’t rule it out directly with his eliminations. I know Jen and Brad have that thing. When Ian tells me, trust me, I won’t let you down, I believe himý I’m not a naive person, and Ian has always proven himself to be a decent guy , so I do trust him, and I know he respects his posters and appreciates everyone that supports him. No hard feelings.

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  888. Guest1 said on June 20th, 2012 at 3:15 pm

    @joanne:
    I like him in his new show, ‘Modern Family’. Unfortunately my husband likes Sophia Vergara a little too much. But I think he makes comments about her to get a reaction out of me. Unfortunately none of the men in the show are worth drooling over!

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  889. Tetta said on June 20th, 2012 at 3:37 pm

    @joanne:

    Joanne, your avi !! It´s great !! :lol:

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  890. joanne said on June 20th, 2012 at 3:40 pm

    @Tetta:
    I found this free avatar site and trying them out, its called avatar db

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  891. Tetta said on June 20th, 2012 at 3:44 pm

    @joanne:

    This is also great ! Must go and check !

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  892. Pattyanne said on June 20th, 2012 at 3:46 pm

    Love your little Green Thing avi, it’s cute and funny at the same time….@joanne:

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  893. Pattyanne said on June 20th, 2012 at 4:03 pm

    Nice read, and thanks for sharing your humor with me. Sometimes things get too intense here and people forget we are posters on a gossip blog speculating about celebrities lives as the clues lead us. It’s not something we can take so seriously as to make it life or death or allow to affect our health, but a release, a fun time sharing personal thoughts about the clues Ian has given us all. Not a single one of us is 100% right all the time, or has more knowledge than the others I’m sure, so relax, have fun, and play with the riddles for entertainment. After all, these celebs sell their privacy and put their lives up for speculation in exchange for the benefits of fame or infamy, however they choose to create their images. I’m sure we will never be privy to know what is truly real about any of them.@Capri:

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  894. joanne said on June 20th, 2012 at 4:28 pm

    @Capri:
    There the joke would be on Pitt. Jolie got her matron image and Aniston got her freedom. Great trade off.

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  895. joanne said on June 20th, 2012 at 4:30 pm

    @Pattyanne:
    his eyes are supposed to move, I must have messed up some where

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  896. joanne said on June 20th, 2012 at 4:39 pm

    @joanne:
    I did do anything wrong, gravatar doesn’t do animations. :)

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  897. joanne said on June 20th, 2012 at 4:39 pm

    @joanne:
    ugh! didn’t not did. :lol:

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  898. Tetta said on June 20th, 2012 at 4:54 pm

    @Guest19:

    I really wondered what you had written. Ever since you made that comment I have thougt if we all are disrespectful. There are one or two who come here occasionally who really are disrespectful but not all of us. I´m really relieved ! :lol: :lol:

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  899. Up the Coast said on June 20th, 2012 at 5:02 pm

    @joanne:
    @joanne:
    +1 Seriously, WHY would anyone claim to be proud of a strange woman with 6 kids and 6 nannies, who has never lifted a finger to cook/clean for herself or her kids, who dropped out of high school and used heroin….while laughing about the various ways she killed her pets? Then went on to sleep with any married man she could get her claws on? Even sleeping with her own mother’s boyfriend!!! :shock: Seriously???

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  900. joanne said on June 20th, 2012 at 5:29 pm

    @Up the Coast:
    It makes you wonder. Kind of sad.

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  901. Tetta said on June 20th, 2012 at 5:36 pm

    @joanne:

    So true. Why ? We will never get an answer. The people who adores her are to stupid to explain
    themselves.

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  902. Tetta said on June 20th, 2012 at 5:44 pm

    O/T Today we have had the longest day of the year in Scandinavia and other places at the same latitude. That means also we will have the shortest night of the year. It´s also kind of sad. In a couple of days it turns the other way around. The days will be shorter and the nights longer. But first, on Friday and Saturday we will celebrate Midsummer. That will be fun :)

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  903. guest2 said on June 20th, 2012 at 5:53 pm

    @joanne:
    Thanks I forgot what he did.

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  904. Up the Coast said on June 20th, 2012 at 5:54 pm

    @Tetta:
    Yes…it’s the summer solstice!

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  905. Tetta said on June 20th, 2012 at 6:13 pm

    @Tetta:

    Now I was really disrespectful to Angelina´s fans. I´m sorry.

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  906. Pattyanne said on June 20th, 2012 at 6:20 pm

    LOL, whether the eyes move or not, he’s adorable~! Makes me smile and feel good. Love him.@joanne:

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  907. siska said on June 20th, 2012 at 6:35 pm

    @Guest2:ha.ha you make me chuckle

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  908. siska said on June 20th, 2012 at 6:38 pm

    @Tetta:yeah they seem over the top with defending,and attack postet who actually quite fair for their idol,that actually create more people to dislike their idol,wrong move! love your summet,we are freezing here

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  909. siska said on June 20th, 2012 at 7:40 pm

    i think i put too much t on everything..he..he

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  910. siska said on June 20th, 2012 at 8:01 pm

    guest3 ,
    I will explain more clearly about movie business.
    a movie is a product made of different element, including the actor,the script,the cinematography, etc
    a director is a person who responsible to deliver the final product so it ready to be marketing.
    a marketing is a different type of promotion to sell the product
    movie award is a type of promotion which also including public outing,interview tv or magazine or radio,and like Aj favourite move the humanitarian acts or political appearance, also nowsday the family or pda photo op.
    some scandal also can use to sell the movie,its can help or hurt.
    movie review can help the marketing of the movie but not always guarantee.

    a movie can be called successful when making a good net profit after all the costs.
    sometime it can be achieved quickly with the help of overseas market or slowly by counting on cult follower or dvd sales,etc.
    so an actress is not enough to make a movie succesful,they just one small component of agreat product.
    luck also including and fans base will help to finance the movie but not a guarantee of a successful movie.

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  911. siska said on June 20th, 2012 at 8:10 pm

    @Guest19:
    thank you,if only I stop mess up my spelling..he..he
    romance made me warm and giddy in winter time.
    I wonder where is justjen? cant seem to find any new stuff on them after Rome dress gate

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  912. siska said on June 20th, 2012 at 8:14 pm

    @Tetta:
    what do you eat on midsummer?or mostly drink?

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  913. joanne said on June 20th, 2012 at 8:49 pm

    @Tetta:
    Enjoy!

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  914. Guest2 said on June 20th, 2012 at 9:27 pm

    @Kate:
    Maybe one of these days Ian will give us a baby clue we can actually figure out, lol.

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  915. Guest2 said on June 20th, 2012 at 9:35 pm

    @siska:
    Lol, when you start talking about how many goggle articles there are concerning an ugly costume from a movie set you’re bound to put people to sleep. Who could possibly care about such a silly thing except jolie herself.

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  916. Brown Sugar said on June 20th, 2012 at 11:26 pm

    Siska, the Midget and the Barren Hag went into hiding, after the flop of Rock of Ages. You have been blogging long enough Siska, for heavens sake, learn to spell and write proper English.

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  917. siska said on June 20th, 2012 at 11:49 pm

    @Brown Sugar:you still has black heart? I dont think im too worry about my english its better than the stuff you spewing in here.
    Have a better life my sad sad person.
    The barren is having the best holiday money can buy and you? Seem really desperate to have someone to spend holiday with you,just kept spewing hatred non stop,are you not tired? No friend? Maybe the reason starred in your face,bitter person is lonely.I will start by giving you a wish may God send you a man who will love you to shine your heart so lessen your hatred.
    Btw why you have such a problem with me? Do you know me? Or can not get enough of me? I am flatter!

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  918. siska said on June 21st, 2012 at 12:14 am

    @Guest2:and her buch of fans who seem to really miss her since leggate,which made her a bit low profile.
    Do see how funny some of her diehard fans attacking us who mostly more neutral,it made her idol less liken by others if they act like that.
    Anyway I dont think they can get it,specially BS,who seem really like to comment on me,she might have love hate relation with me,seem a bit creepy stalker type.
    And the only thing she kept saying its the same old stuff,ill wish, threat or pick on my english,he,,he… really not original.

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  919. Siska said on June 21st, 2012 at 12:29 am

    @guest 3:
    Btw,I never saying jtx a part time writer,he is one of the three writer on that movie.
    He wrote most the jokes part and work on Tom character more,he said this on the interview,just google it.
    He being asked to join the movie because of Tom, he worked with him from tropic thunder ( which he co write with Ben stiller) ,it a funny and satire kinda movie,it’s been label a successful movie,making the profit just like Iron man2.
    Btw not every project you made will be a guarantee success.its luck and depend on all the elements of the movie is right.
    So chill out with the desperate need to compare your all mighty idol, you so eager to defend her,you can not even realize which poster you should argue of.
    Most of the people you picking a fight actually quite partial to your idol,but the more you attack them,the more the triangle stuff kept being bring,which is irony.

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  920. Tetta said on June 21st, 2012 at 7:18 am

    @siska:

    We eat some special dishes on this special day. i found an article in english that describes it in a good way.

    http://www.ehow.com/info_8552961_traditional-midsummer-foods.html

    Of course we must have something to drink to this. There are many people who prefer to not drink this day because everybody else are more or less drunk. Someone has to be sober if something happen. But the most common beverages is beer and snaps. We prefer wormwood snaps. We pick the wormwood in the nature and place it in a bottle of vodka. As people prefers different strength of wormwood we tap up little by little in different bottles so that each person gets what he / she wants.

    People travel long ways to celebrate Midsummer. It´s most natural to celebrate it out in the nature so everyone who owns summerhouses are very popular these days.

    In the evening girls are supposed to pick 7 sorts of flower. They should be put under the pillow and you will dream of your future husband. Adult people stay up until the sun riceses the next day. It doesn´t need to be so late because at 1.00 am the sun is already on it´s way up. Up in the north of Sweden there is no dawn. The sun is up the whole night. You can see it in a movie called “Insomnia” with Al Pachinio. The main character goes crazy because of the light.

    But together with all the alcohol there are a backside. There are many car crashes since people drive when they are drunk. People drowns. Women are abused.

    But for most of us it´s a joyful time. If you don´t drink to much and not are out in the traffic you probably survive Midsummer. The children has a lot of fun and we dance around the Midsummer Pole. I will show it to you in my avi tomorrow. I wish I could invite all of you tomorrow because it´s a very special feeling. We salut the summer.

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  921. guest2 said on June 21st, 2012 at 9:32 am

    @Tetta:
    Tetta, I wish I could come it sounds like fun.

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  922. joanne said on June 21st, 2012 at 10:31 am

    @siska:
    Just like her idol. Not original She does seem to like to pick on you.

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  923. joanne said on June 21st, 2012 at 11:35 am

    @Tetta:
    the brannvinsost sounds interesting. is it sweet or bitter?

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  924. Up the Coast said on June 21st, 2012 at 12:01 pm

    @Tetta:
    I love the way you explain it :)

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  925. Up the Coast said on June 21st, 2012 at 12:05 pm

    @Siska:
    You’ll never talk sense into these morons… :(

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  926. payal said on June 21st, 2012 at 12:44 pm

    do you think if ask nicely in advance, Ian will give us more than one clue on my birthday as a birthday present?? lol (fingers crossed!)

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  927. joanne said on June 21st, 2012 at 1:01 pm

    Happy Birthday payal. enjoy your day.

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  928. Guest2 said on June 21st, 2012 at 1:01 pm

    @Up the Coast:
    So true.

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  929. Guest2 said on June 21st, 2012 at 1:04 pm

    @payal:
    Happy birthday, you’re a summer solstice baby.

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  930. Guest2 said on June 21st, 2012 at 1:06 pm

    What happened to Ian’s twitters? They’re gone and I can’t get into it anymore. Is he leaving us? :(

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  931. Guest2 said on June 21st, 2012 at 1:09 pm

    @Guest2:
    Nevermind, now I see it.

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  932. payal said on June 21st, 2012 at 1:17 pm

    @joanne:
    @Guest2:
    ha ha! its not today its on the 30th of this month, thats why i said if i ask ian in advance lol!

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  933. Up the Coast said on June 21st, 2012 at 1:17 pm

    One of these kids must belong to BS…… http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-505263_162-57457628/bullied-school-bus-monitor-finds-online-support/

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  934. Up the Coast said on June 21st, 2012 at 1:19 pm

    @payal:
    Hahaha….what a stinker! I had a feeling your birthday wasn’t today.

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  935. Guest2 said on June 21st, 2012 at 1:25 pm

    @payal:
    You have the same birthday as me!

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  936. Guest2 said on June 21st, 2012 at 1:28 pm

    @Up the Coast:
    The adults of the future, nice country it will be.

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  937. louisianagurl said on June 21st, 2012 at 1:28 pm

    HRH…any time now…some validation or new clue…the natives are getting restless…including me! :-)

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  938. payal said on June 21st, 2012 at 1:31 pm

    @Guest2:
    yay!!

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  939. Tetta said on June 21st, 2012 at 1:47 pm

    @joanne:

    The brannvisost is bitter .”Brannvin” or as we pronounce it “breanviin cheese” means pure alcohol. In my family we have it before the BBQ . We cut dark rye bread in small cubes, then we cut the cheese in the same size. On top of it we put a grape and put a toothpick through it so
    it´s hold together. The sour sweet grape tastes good together with the bitter cheese. We makes other kinds of canapés too so it´s instead of a first course.

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  940. Up the Coast said on June 21st, 2012 at 1:57 pm

    @Guest2:
    I know! We are screwed :cry:

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  941. Up the Coast said on June 21st, 2012 at 1:58 pm

    +1 x 1000 :lol:

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  942. Up the Coast said on June 21st, 2012 at 2:00 pm

    Tetta said…….”then we cut the cheese” :lol: :lol:

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  943. Guest19 said on June 21st, 2012 at 2:38 pm

    If Justin is a midget then Brad is dwarf. At least one looks like he showers and uses deodorant.

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  944. joanne said on June 21st, 2012 at 2:51 pm

    advance should have been a clue. :lol: enjoy your day anyway.

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  945. joanne said on June 21st, 2012 at 2:54 pm

    @Tetta:
    it sounds like a treat i would like to try. I am not a drinker though. I am an obnoxious drunk so I stay sober. :lol:

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  946. Tetta said on June 21st, 2012 at 3:12 pm

    @Up the Coast:

    What do you mean, did I spelled something very wrong ? :)

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  947. Tetta said on June 21st, 2012 at 3:19 pm

    @joanne:

    You don´t have to drink. Some of our friends are sober alcoholics and don´t drink. We are so proud of them. If they have a hard time to see other drink, we don´t drink either.

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  948. Up the Coast said on June 21st, 2012 at 4:05 pm

    @Tetta:
    You spelled it right :)

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  949. Tetta said on June 21st, 2012 at 4:19 pm

    @Up the Coast:

    ???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

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  950. joanne said on June 21st, 2012 at 4:19 pm

    @Up the Coast:
    @Tetta:
    http://onlineslangdictionary.com/meaning-definition-of/cut-the-cheese

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  951. Tetta said on June 21st, 2012 at 5:02 pm

    @joanne:

    Thank You Joanne, now I understand. Let me say, I cut the brannvinecheese but I didn’t put the other cheese :lol:

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  952. Dream said on June 21st, 2012 at 5:03 pm

    Johnny Depp, Vanessa Paradis Split: Actor Was ‘Bored Senseless’ (REPORT)
    this is just weird.

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  953. Tetta said on June 21st, 2012 at 5:04 pm

    @Tetta:

    “……… I didn´t cut the other cheese ……….”

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  954. Dream said on June 21st, 2012 at 5:10 pm

    @Tetta:
    this sounds like so much fun tetta.

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  955. Dream said on June 21st, 2012 at 5:14 pm

    love ur avi joanne. cute little green man.

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  956. Dream said on June 21st, 2012 at 5:16 pm

    @Brown Sugar:
    you get more and more boring all the time sweetness.
    I have decided to divorce you. now run along.

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  957. Up the Coast said on June 21st, 2012 at 5:28 pm

    @Tetta:
    @joanne:
    Thanks Joanne, that’s it :oops:

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  958. Up the Coast said on June 21st, 2012 at 5:30 pm

    @Tetta:
    :lol:

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  959. Up the Coast said on June 21st, 2012 at 5:32 pm

    @Dream:
    HE is boring!!! He plays the SAME character, again and again and again….~yawn~ The same frikken scream, the same frikken drunk walk :roll: I have a feeling that Vanessa wasn’t boring until she met his dumbass ;)

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  960. joanne said on June 21st, 2012 at 5:42 pm

    @Up the Coast:
    I thought the same thing when she said cut the cheese. :lol: it sticks in your mind once you hear it.

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  961. Up the Coast said on June 21st, 2012 at 5:43 pm

    @joanne:
    Geez, how old am I? :lol: I’ll blame it on my grandsons….

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  962. joanne said on June 21st, 2012 at 5:44 pm

    @Dream:
    ty. I feel alien sometimes. :lol:

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  963. joanne said on June 21st, 2012 at 5:46 pm

    @Up the Coast:
    I heard if from my brother years ago. 8O :lol:

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  964. Dream said on June 21st, 2012 at 5:55 pm

    @Up the Coast:
    it’s just such a weird thing to say to the press when brad had just said the same thing and caught so much flack.
    and not to mention the connection with the jolie pitts.

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  965. Dream said on June 21st, 2012 at 5:56 pm

    @joanne:
    ha right there with u.

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  966. Up the Coast said on June 21st, 2012 at 6:48 pm

    @Dream:
    Both of them are dirty and smelly looking drunks/druggies….and hooking up with joLIE has ruined both of them :shock: imo.

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  967. joanne said on June 21st, 2012 at 7:51 pm

    @Up the Coast:
    I agree.

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  968. Guest2 said on June 21st, 2012 at 8:40 pm

    @joanne:
    I’m a let me tell you what I really think drunk so I tend to stay sober too :lol:

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  969. rushdog said on June 21st, 2012 at 9:11 pm

    OK two new twitters – are these supposed to be clues? The first looks like meat…maybe it was delicious and he wanted to share what it looked like! Then a mystery princess. There have clearly been twitters that relate to the riddles but these…I don’t know (just shrugging) don’t really know if or how they would apply.

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  970. Guest2 said on June 21st, 2012 at 9:12 pm

    Has anyone been able to make sense of Ian’s last two twitter “clues”? I’m not good with the clues anyway but the tweets are even more inscrutable for me.

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  971. Up the Coast said on June 21st, 2012 at 9:15 pm

    @Guest2:
    Now I want to buy you a couple drinks! :shock:

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  972. Up the Coast said on June 21st, 2012 at 9:16 pm

    Is that a pork roast? Or a ham? ;)

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  973. guest 3 said on June 21st, 2012 at 9:37 pm

    @siska
    You could never explain the movie business in HW since you’re not from the US. and probably never been to America.. Not trying to be condescending but it’s like someone from the Amazon trying to explain to me how to study/pass the SAT’s ( which are american exams to get into college).

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  974. Up the Coast said on June 21st, 2012 at 10:13 pm

    @guest 3:
    Interesting illogical logic that you are using….it’s the same shit your idol uses. So if proximity is the ruler you are using to measure siska’s “knowledge”…where, pray tell, do YOU reside? Not trying to be condescending…of course.

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  975. guest 3 said on June 21st, 2012 at 10:18 pm

    @Siska
    You live in a different culture. When you grow up or work in a big city such as NYC or LA it is nothing new to run into stars . SJP was filming her last movie down the block from where I work. I was pissed because I was blocked from the chainstore I normally go to during my lunch hour due to filming. Everytime the JP’s and their children come to NYC they patronize my client’s store and photos are taken of his place of business and plastered in the tabs. I have to admit, I’ve asked what do they look like in person and are the children really well-behaved, how tall are they.. The answer was Yes better looking in person than in photos and they really have their kids under control. Brad is an average-tall US man 5′11-6′0 and Angie is petite, not short but not extremely tall about 5′7″.

    I think the Jp’s girls will be model tall and gorgeous. The boys are showing signs that they will be hearttrobs..

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  976. joanne said on June 21st, 2012 at 10:43 pm

    :lol: someone lives in the land of delusion.

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  977. joanne said on June 21st, 2012 at 10:43 pm

    @joanne:
    and its not siska.

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  978. Up the Coast said on June 21st, 2012 at 11:33 pm

    @joanne:
    Next door to her idol :lol:

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  979. Up the Coast said on June 21st, 2012 at 11:37 pm

    Brad is an average-tall US man :shock: :lol: :lol: Somebody needs to up their meds!

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  980. joanne said on June 21st, 2012 at 11:46 pm

    @Up the Coast:
    He might be with his lifts. :lol: :lol:

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  981. joanne said on June 21st, 2012 at 11:48 pm

    I read he was around 5′ 8″ when he started getting noticed then he grew from there.

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  982. WR said on June 22nd, 2012 at 1:04 am

    So what excites Johnny Depp? The prospect of playing Gypsy Rose Lee? Is that why he wants that role?
    Or maybe wearing white-face in many of his roles, including the current Tonto?
    Was he excited making “The Tourist”, the one that started his downslide from the #1 position at the boxoffice in the USA?
    Boredom comes from within. No one can make you bored, except yourself! If one is “BORED SENSELESS”, it’s nobody’s fault but the one who is bored. And it’s because JD has become bored with himself! He just doesn’t like himself!

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  983. joanne said on June 22nd, 2012 at 1:28 am

    Pitt and Depp do a movie with Jolie then their life gets boring. CF said she will do anything sexually. The ones who escaped her clutches still have a career. To bad Pitt and Depp weren’t smart enough. BBT isn’t doing so hot these days either. JLM shows up now and then but really lost his looks.

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