IUC World Exclusive: Happy July 4th Everyone from HRH!!!!!!

Posted on July 4th, 2011 by HisHighness in IUC:Bits, IUC:Entertainment, IUC:Exclusive

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  1. Patty anne said on July 4th, 2011 at 6:46 pm

    Thank you Ian, although it looks like you’re having quite a celebration yourself. wink!!

    God bless America and may she regain her direction our forefathers intended once again.

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  2. rushdog said on July 4th, 2011 at 6:57 pm

    Happy 4th! Lots of lovely ladies for Ian! Having a very relaxing day. Peace.

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  3. joanne said on July 4th, 2011 at 7:28 pm

    Happy 4th to everyone and God bless America.

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  4. Dream said on July 4th, 2011 at 7:55 pm

    happy 4th

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  5. Guest2 said on July 4th, 2011 at 8:56 pm

    Happy 4th to Ian and all the great folks that come here. God Bless America.

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  6. Tetta said on July 5th, 2011 at 2:56 am

    Happy 4th of July to Ian and all other american friends at this site ! There are still a couple of minutes left of the big day on the west coast. See you all
    tomorrow !

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  7. sinker said on July 5th, 2011 at 9:04 am

    Happy (belated) 4th, Ian, and all the IUCs!

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  8. I'm on the bidet said on July 5th, 2011 at 10:44 am

    Ian Halperin, the Esther Williams of celebrity journalism! lol, joking. A belated but heart-felt Happy Canada Day and Fourth of July to all! -iotb

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  9. Evil Kitty said on July 5th, 2011 at 12:02 pm

    Hi everyone, hope you all had a great 4th of July. Looks like Ian sure did. :)

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  10. Stella said on July 5th, 2011 at 12:34 pm

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    This judge has given you’ll a 9.0!!! Well done HRH on your catch…You look MARVELOUS!!

    Belated Happy 4th to all!!

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  11. Tamara said on July 5th, 2011 at 2:52 pm

    Hope you all had a great 4th!! Baby you’re a FIREWORK! lol

    Yea hmmmm Happy Freakin 4th of July Casey Anthony!! What’s next, a million dollar interview with Barbara Walters, a multi million dollar book deal, oh wait – lets not forget the Casey is Free Reality Show. I say she should hook up with OJ Simpson – maybe buy a house on Rockingham – they can live the Beautiful Life together – aaaaaaaarrrrrrgggggggghhhh!!!

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  12. I'm on the bidet said on July 5th, 2011 at 2:57 pm

    @Tamara:
    And I’ll bet she gets pregnant within two years.

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  13. Tamara said on July 5th, 2011 at 2:58 pm

    @I’m on the bidet:
    Oh God – don’t even say that!! ssssshhh- I was thinking that too!!! :(

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  14. Up the Coast said on July 5th, 2011 at 3:16 pm

    I am completely shocked and appalled at the verdict! I guess the jury truly was her “peers”, because they didn’t give a damn about that little girls life either. I can only hope that Jose is stalked by that sociopathic bitch for years to come, cuz I’m sure in her mind…….he was nothing until he hooked up with her, she “made” him ;) I think Jose knows what Casey is, how can he not know what a sick bitch she is. And if her parents do not know what she is by now……..they deserve for her to come back home too. ugh.

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  15. Tamara said on July 5th, 2011 at 4:01 pm

    Well, all I can say is it’s a good thing they kept the jury hidden from the public because I wouldn’t want to be one of those 12 people who now have to live the rest of their lives being 12 of the 24 most hated people in America (OJ jurors) hope they can justify themselves

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  16. Patty anne said on July 5th, 2011 at 4:19 pm

    What fried my bacon was when Jose’ Baez said, “I can tell my daughter today I saved a life”…..tell HIS daughter, what about Casey’s daughter? In the swamp for over 31 days? Lady Justice was blind today. No justice for little toddler Caylee Marie Anthony but rather a confirmation that the swamp was where she belonged, at least via the jury’s verdict.@Up the Coast:

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  17. Up the Coast said on July 5th, 2011 at 4:44 pm

    @Patty anne:
    I agree…..the logic is funked up….Jose is against the death penalty, cuz we wouldn’t want to kill the killers, that’s just wrong. He likes to set them killers free, and that’s fine as long as he gives them HIS home address ;) I hope his daughter grows up and realizes that her daddy saved a life today….the life of a mother who threw her babies life away like trash. Now, I’m waiting to see what JPerry has in store for her.

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  18. Up the Coast said on July 5th, 2011 at 5:38 pm

    I wonder how long before Casey has Jose’s penis in her mouth? :shock:

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  19. joanne said on July 5th, 2011 at 5:55 pm

    @Up the Coast:
    It was probably on it most of the time. Hopefully she will do something stupid like OJ did and end up in prison anyway.

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  20. louisianagurl said on July 5th, 2011 at 6:15 pm

    This is so Frustrating. I hate to say it, but these jurors will make more money off of this verdict than they would have with a Guilty one…and so will Casey. Much more sensational now….I should say even more…I think she should at a minimum gotten Aggrivated Manslaughter of a child…Caley was in her care and she died…and she was thrown into a swamp to rot. Any other charges that don’t affect double jeopardy that can be filed for not reporting a death and disposing of a body unlawfully, etc? There must be something, it won’t add up to a lot, but it is better than nothing…and I will be pissed if she gets time served for the counts she was found guilty on. UGGGG!!!!

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  21. Up the Coast said on July 5th, 2011 at 6:22 pm

    @joanne:
    We can only hope. Cheney Mason says Casey could walk on Thursday….walk where, we don’t know, cuz he says she won’t be going home to mommy/daddy. I wonder if she’ll be going home with Baez/Mason??? They deserve her….that’s for sure! :)

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  22. Up the Coast said on July 5th, 2011 at 6:31 pm

    @louisianagurl:
    Maybe Judge Perry will surprise us………afterall, HE has the last word.

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  23. siska said on July 5th, 2011 at 8:22 pm

    happy 4th of july to all my american friends!!!enjoy!!

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  24. siska said on July 5th, 2011 at 8:25 pm

    AJ just top Forbes top income actress tie with SJP..30 mil thanks for The Tourits and Salt..she is a big star appeal for overseas market..
    but jen didnt do to bad..she got 28Mill..that include the Smartwater and her perfume..plus Just Go With It

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  25. Liz E. said on July 5th, 2011 at 10:25 pm

    In the Casey Anthony case it was the correct verdict. There was simply a tremendous lack of evidence that tied Anthony to the body and, of course, they had no cause of death so how they could even charge a degree of murder is beyond me. Verdicts cannot be based on supposition or emotion and that, more than anything else, is what the prosecution was relying on. I am surprised but satisfied that the jury did its duty properly.

    Anthony has been held for over 3 years and even with a maximum sentence consecutive to each count (4 misdemeanor counts at 1 year each) she would probably be release ready. It’s a very sad case but prosecutors who cannot wait for proper and sufficient evidence to move forward with their cases deserve to have them handed back to them with a resounding not guilty.

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  26. Up the Coast said on July 5th, 2011 at 11:34 pm

    @Liz E.:
    Caylee, and anyone else who has a two yr old, might disagree with you. Casey was responsible for that child and she ended up tossed in swamp, while she was out whoring it up….Bella Vita eh? She will kill again.

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  27. Togi said on July 6th, 2011 at 12:15 am

    LizE … unfortunately, I have to agree with you. :( Besides, it’s much different to SAY you are certain someone should be convicted than it is to be on the jury, with that person’s life in your hands. Because if you’re on the jury, you had BETTER be 100% certain, without a doubt. I didn’t follow the trial that closely, because I was one of the majority who simply believed Mommy was guilty. But there were holes in the prosecution’s case. The duct tape posed quite a problem for me. I’m pretty certain everyone agrees Casey is a selfish, lying human being. But lying and selfishness does not automatically equal being a murderer. I have to give it to the jury, who heard it ALL. They didn’t go with the popular decision; they obviously had reasonable doubt. As horrible as it is that the death of this sweet little baby has seen no resolution, I would rather see no resolution than an unjustified conviction. Soooooooo … Liz.E. … I completely understand where you’re coming from. Not happy about it, but still agree and understand. :( the @Liz E.:

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  28. Togi said on July 6th, 2011 at 12:20 am

    UTC … there will be LOTS AND LOTS of people who disagree! Without a doubt. Casey did things while her daughter were missing that most people cannot fathom. There is something wrong with her. But that doesn’t make her a murderer. I assumed she was guilty, myself. Until I heard some of the points the defense was making. I have a young daughter … I HEAR YOU!!! And I was shocked she was NOT found guilty. But, like Liz said above, it is my very very humble opinion that the verdict was the correct verdict. It totally sucks … but in my mind and opinion, the prosecution did NOT prove their case, beyond a reasonable doubt.@Up the Coast:

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  29. Stella said on July 6th, 2011 at 1:21 am

    Caylee “drowning” in the family swimming pool under Casey’s care when she was there is not “Aggravated Child Abuse?” or “Aggravated Manslaughter of a Child?”

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  30. Togi said on July 6th, 2011 at 1:27 am

    So true, Stella. Stupidity and lack of diligence. But not abuse or manslaughter.
    @Stella:

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  31. Stella said on July 6th, 2011 at 2:00 am

    @Togi:

    No Togi…..

    I believe the jurors were wrong. I’m asking the question how and why they did not find her guilty on those counts…I believe this woman is guilty of these counts.

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  32. Stella said on July 6th, 2011 at 2:07 am

    @Togi:

    Togi:

    For me, watching this and hearing the full case, I would’ve found her guilty on all counts beyond a reasonable doubt. JMHO…

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  33. Togi said on July 6th, 2011 at 2:22 am

    Well, I wasn’t there and haven’t seen the jury instructions, but there are specific instructions they need to follow in order to come up with the answers to whether or not a guilty verdict can be reached, beyond a reasonable doubt. Like I’ve said, I honestly didn’t follow the case and heard very little of the testimony. But what I did hear or read gave ME reason to question what the prosecution was trying to prove. All I can comfortably say is that I believe NO ONE took their job more seriously than those jurors did. The jurors most likely found the woman appalling. Probably disliked her immensely. It’s hard NOT to convict someone you have no sympathy for. They COULD find her guilty of lying and threw all of that back at her. I just don’t think the prosecutors proved their case. Too many questions unanswered. Not enough evidence. I don’t know. I’ve seen better people convicted of more on less evidence. THAT ticks me off as well, and is so terribly unfair. Our justice system isn’t perfect, by a long shot. But I am at least comforted by the fact that it is still possible to get a fair trial … despite the media feeding frenzy.
    @Stella:

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  34. Patty anne said on July 6th, 2011 at 1:34 pm

    An attorney on CNN was discussing the jury’s verdict and said outright that “their minds were made up from the opening statement when Baez accused George of molesting Casey, they did not deliberate or ask for a single bit of information, or to review any of the testimony, their minds were made up from minute one”. I have to say a verdict in 11 hours start to finish isn’t a sign of any deliberation of 12 different minds imo. A local from Tampa said the jurors were sick of being held sequestered in Orlando for six weeks and just wanted it over quickly so they could go home. Justice? I think not. Single hair that was unprocessed and 14 inches long with death banding in the trunk of a car only Casey was driving which happened to also smell of human decomposition. Circumstancial? I think if you use logic and follow the trail all the evidence is connected in some way to ONE person only, and that ONE person is Casey Anthony. BTW, a mag is reporting today that she is telling other inmates that she is in the early stages of pregnancy. A guard I suppose. I hope the Lord is watching over this one, it will need it.

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  35. Up the Coast said on July 6th, 2011 at 1:47 pm

    @Patty anne:
    She could be LYING though :? She will be back in custody soon enough, she’s also a thief afterall. With 6 felony theft charges…..I would think/hope that next time she gets arrested, she will finally do some REAL time, in a REAL prison. Doesn’t Florida have a 3 strikes law?

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  36. Togi said on July 6th, 2011 at 1:57 pm

    I have to respectfully disagree, PattyAnne. The media is filled with so-called “experts” giving their two-cents’ worth, and it’s just a bunch of blah blah blah. I mean, honestly! How the h e double hockey-sticks could that attorney POSSIBLY know the minds of ALL those jurors! That’s just ridiculous! And to come on TV as an “analyst” to say this is just plain irresponsible. A quick deliberation means there was no disagreement. Period. Why would the jurors ask to review anything when they weren’t given anything of substance to begin with? All these “analysts” and so-called experts know PERFECTLY WELL that you CANNOT CONVICT on circumstantial evidence. That’s all they had. The jurors did EXACTLY what they were REQUIRED BY LAW to do. I am proud of them, as an American. @Patty anne:

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  37. Patty anne said on July 6th, 2011 at 2:19 pm

    Then this is where we agree to disagree. Personally I would want to take the time to go over everything I’d had given me as testimony during the six weeks of trial in order to come to a logical conclusion. I would never Not prepare for an exam while in college which was important to me personally, so why would I choose to Not go over the evidence to be sure I was making a decision that would be right for me? We cross check our bills, our bank statements, our tax records but we do not bother to cross check evidence in the murder trial of a precious little two year old child? No. I can not accept this jury as having done their job as jurors in this case. Just cutting through all the drama between the attorneys would take a few days alone. I am very ashamed of the manner in which this jury arrived at their conclusion, but then that is only My opinion. @Togi:

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  38. Up the Coast said on July 6th, 2011 at 2:21 pm

    I don’t even care HOW the child died….she could have choked on a lego for all I know. But what kind of a MONSTER decides to bag it up and toss it in a swamp? Because she had PLANS to go to the Club that night? And calling 911 would have fucked it up for her? That is CHILD ABUSE at the very least. All the bitch had to do was call 911…..within a couple weeks, she could have been on her merry way.

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  39. Togi said on July 6th, 2011 at 2:33 pm

    Yes, I agree. We disagree. :)
    @Patty anne:

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  40. lookyloo said on July 6th, 2011 at 2:59 pm

    It seems now that one of the juror’s has hired an attorney to negotiate a 5-figure deal for a sit down interview. I’m disgusted. There should be some sort of law against this, right? It definitely makes me wonder if some of the jury weighed which decision would bring them the most money.

    I always try and hold out hope that society can recover but some days it just seems there is no room for hope anymore.

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  41. louisianagurl said on July 6th, 2011 at 3:13 pm

    according to several media sources, one of the jurors is willing to talk for the right price! I think that in this world of multimedia, these people also had in mind “what they could get out of it”….It is a sad commentary on our Society that this jury may have had personal interest in the verdict aside from thier duty…wheter that be the cruise one was scheduled for or the money they could make, or just getting out of jail themselves….You can’t have seriously considered almost 8 weeks worth of evidence in 10 hours.
    Casey will also go on to get paid millions to write and speak her story…

    I feel for the Anthony family and how they have been thrown under the bus. I am sorry, but regardless of if Casey was molested (which I don’t believe), that doesn’t give you the right to neglect your child or dump thier remains in a swamp. I also never bought that George, a seasoned former POLICE DETECTIVE would have taken tape, bags and a blanket from his own house if he was trying to cover up an accident. Casey has some culpability here and is not being held responsible for any of it. The child did not wrap herself in her winnie the pooh blanket, but herself in 3 garbage bags and put duct tape on her face….even if this was an accident, she had the responsibility to report it.

    …Love you ladies…this is all JMHO… :-)

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  42. Up the Coast said on July 6th, 2011 at 3:21 pm

    @lookyloo:
    I agree with you on that!

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  43. louisianagurl said on July 6th, 2011 at 3:23 pm

    A little more…many have spoken about the law and what was instructed…this is what was instructed and I can’t see how Casey avoided being found GUILTY on this charge. If you can, please explain it to me. I am serious…not looking to pick a fight…just really want to understand how this does not apply to this situation as a lesser charge that I believe all of the required points were met:

    On Monday morning, Judge Perry told the jurors in the Casey Anthony trial that aggravated manslaughter requires two elements.
    “To find aggravated manslaughter of a child, the State must prove beyond a reasons doubt two elements” Perry told the Court. First, the jury must find Caylee Marie Anthony is dead.
    Second, they must find that Casey Anthony’s acts caused the death of Caylee or that the death of the Caylee was caused by culpable negligence by Casey Anthony.

    Judge Perry then explained to the Court how culpable negligence works. Perry told jurors that each of us has a duty to act reasonable towards another. He said that a violation without intent is negligence. But to be culpable, Perry told the Court, the negligence must be gross and flagrant, exhibit a reckless disregard to human life or conscious disregard for the safety or welfare of the public, or the rights of others.

    Perry told the court that an culpable negligence exists when you do an act, or follow a course of conduct, that you should have known would cause harm to others. Perry thereafter focused on the “of a child” section of the charge. He said that Casey was Caylee’s caregiver. Perry said that a parent is defined as a caregiver; a child is defined as anyone under age 18; and the negligent of a child by a caregiver can be exhibited with lack of food, nutrition, clothing, shelter, supervision, and medical services essential for the welfare of the child.

    …if you find your child floating in a pool (let’s suspend reality a bit here) and don’t call 911…because as the medical examiner stated …there is always the chance of resuscitation…you don’t know how long the child has been there…how is that providing medical services essential for the welfare of the child. THAT ALONE IS ENOUGH…

    1. Yes, everyone agrees Caley is dead
    2. Casey was responsible for her welfare and by her own admission found the child “drowned in the family pool” and she failed to call 911

    So…therefore this was at a MINIMUM aggravated manslaughter of a child.

    I know, I am an engineer and they would hate to have me on a jury, but even with all other evidence aside, this seems to be air tight to me…very much like a proof in science…it adds up so that the theory becomes fact….and this is the “Theory” that Casey’s defense put forward.

    Ok…I feel a little better having been able to put that out there…any takers?

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  44. louisianagurl said on July 6th, 2011 at 3:24 pm

    @lookyloo:
    sorry…I must have been writing my post about the same thing when you posted yours. I totally agree.

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  45. Up the Coast said on July 6th, 2011 at 3:36 pm

    @louisianagurl:
    This is exactly why I am hoping that tomorrow, Judge Perry will say he’s overriding the verdict :) Because the jury did not follow his instructions.

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  46. lookyloo said on July 6th, 2011 at 3:43 pm

    @Up the Coast:
    Can he do that?

    I would bet that the juror seeking payment for interviews would be grounds for the defense to appeal but is it grounds for the judge to overturn the verdict?

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  47. louisianagurl said on July 6th, 2011 at 3:48 pm

    @Up the Coast:
    I hope so….I have seen a Judge throw out the verdict in the baby shaking case, but that was to a lesser offence, not sure what the law is in Florida to up what the Jury came back with to a higher offence…will have to look.

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  48. Patty anne said on July 6th, 2011 at 3:50 pm

    I was waiting for this to come out.@lookyloo:

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  49. Up the Coast said on July 6th, 2011 at 3:53 pm

    @lookyloo:
    @louisianagurl:
    I don’t know what the laws are in Florida…..but I don’t think this jury followed the judge’s instructions, just like LAgurl said. I listened to JPerry read all that to the jury, and it sounded to me like there was no other options. The jury had to make a bigger leap to find her not guilty than they did to find her guilty, simple as that, imo.

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  50. louisianagurl said on July 6th, 2011 at 3:56 pm

    @Up the Coast:
    This is what I found: In the state of Florida…

    Can a Judge Overrule a Jury Verdict?
    In any trial, the judge’s decision and opinion has higher authority than anyone else. The fact of the matter is that a judge is an expert on the law and the jury is not. The judge can overturn a guilty verdict and find the defendant not guilty, but not the other way around.

    Instead of overturning a guilty verdict, the judge can order a new trial. This is a rare instance that can happen if the judge determines that there was a procedural error or an error with the evidence that was important to the case.

    Ultimately, a judge overruling a jury verdict is very rare because jury verdicts are supposed to represent the sentiment of the community.

    …let’s cross our fingers that he finds a procedural error…but I am not getting my hopes up. :-(

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  51. Up the Coast said on July 6th, 2011 at 4:02 pm

    @louisianagurl:
    Oh well then :( But I would argue that these jurors were from another community….. ;) They should have put her on the same bus as the jury, and sent her home with them :)

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  52. Patty anne said on July 6th, 2011 at 4:02 pm

    You could not have made it more clear. I appreciate your taking the time to lay it out so that it’s easily understandable for everyone. The question remains; why did the jury not “get it”?@louisianagurl:

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  53. louisianagurl said on July 6th, 2011 at 4:30 pm

    @Patty anne:
    I wish I had that crystal ball…some might say they saw $ signs and a quick way out. If they found her guilty, they would have stayed sequestered through the penalty phase. This was their get out of Jail free card. That said…I don’t have the crystal ball…so I guess we have to wait for thier books to come out!

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  54. louisianagurl said on July 6th, 2011 at 4:36 pm

    @Patty anne:
    And I def agree with your assessment earlier…they did not have enough time to go over the evidence in 10 hours…i think they did the jury system and themselves a disservice by not taking thier time.

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  55. Kate said on July 6th, 2011 at 5:36 pm

    I will guess that the reason they did not agree that these instructions applied to the below is because of she did not take the stand and that admission was not out of her own mouth. If it had been the next question the jury would have considered would have been, “what then did you do, and why did you cover it up”, and yes most likely that would have been a guilty verdict on something. She didn’t take the stand though. Did they discount that as the cause of death. Apparently, they did We know that because the way she died was never defined, not murder, not accident for the death penalty charge. If they can not apply either one, it is not possible to then turn around on a lesser charge and suddenly decide to pick one just so you can vote guilty on something. That defies the law completely . If they chose to do that, then they are saying she did not murder her and it was an accident. If then they are going to go with an accident, they then have to apply all information they have acquired to that decision. How many parents have been convicted because they lost their child in an unfortunate accident, their child choked on a hot dog, drowned in the tub while mom ran to answer the phone, dad backed out over the baby sitting in the drive way, fell through the high chair , or out of window because the crib was too close to a window. So many things to ponder. yes all those mothers would have called 911, but then again, we are right back to the initial question…what did you do next? The answer is , she did not take the stand, so the jurors did not have an answer to that to consider. All they had was Caylee is gone not how, and not by who or what means. That may make people angry, but the jury did follow the instructions. I don’t know how else they could have taken this. There was no cause of death.

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  56. Tamara said on July 6th, 2011 at 8:13 pm

    Personally I think J Perry will give her time served and she’ll be out. I agree completely with all of you – I think most of us are all thinking along the same lines (even you Togi :) ) but Kate said it – they didn’t have any PROOF of how Caley died – they are calling this jury victims of the CSI expectation wondering have we as a society lost our ability to reason without the CSI forensics. So without the actual hit you over the head with it proof they couldn’t find her guilty. I think it absolutely stinks because now she is going to go out and live The Beautiful Life – and she’s going to make a ton of money off this now and that really pisses me off.

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  57. Liz E. said on July 6th, 2011 at 8:17 pm

    @louisianagurl:
    “I know, I am an engineer and they would hate to have me on a jury”

    Depending on the case, many defense attorneys would greatly appreciate you on the jury. The Anthony case is a great example of that. I would have wanted someone who understood standards for scientific analysis and results on this jury since the government was so eager to use junk science in this case.

    This jury included teachers, a nurse and a nursing student, IT professionals, and others with backgrounds I think would look askance at what the government tried to pass off as “science” in this case.

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  58. Liz E. said on July 6th, 2011 at 8:31 pm

    Up the Coast said on July 6th, 2011 at 3:36 pm .
    “This is exactly why I am hoping that tomorrow, Judge Perry will say he’s overriding the verdict Because the jury did not follow his instructions.”

    Please stop. This.Cannot.Happen. Acquittals are legally sacrosanct. Now the court could overturn the 4 misdemeanor convictions. But that is a different matter and that certainly seems unlikely.

    Re: the jury instructions. I read them and it seems perfectly clear to me why they had to have reasonable doubt for every single count charged. Kate upthread has a good explanation on how missing evidence left the jury with no alternative.

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  59. Dream said on July 6th, 2011 at 8:42 pm

    @Liz E.:
    one of the jurors said today how do we know what to find her guilty of if the pros. could not tell us how caylee died.
    i think that’s what it was about pros did not suggest causes of death that could have gone with the autopsy.

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  60. Liz E. said on July 6th, 2011 at 8:48 pm

    louisianagurl said on July 6th, 2011 at 3:48 pm .
    “….I have seen a Judge throw out the verdict in the baby shaking case, but that was to a lesser offence, not sure what the law is in Florida to up what the Jury came back with to a higher offence…”

    If you are talking about the Louise Woodward case in Massachusetts then, yes, that is allowable. The judge reduced the jury’s finding of guilt as to the charge of 2nd degree murder to the lesser included offense of involuntary manslaughter. I thought he should have thrown out the murder charges due to insufficient evidence following the defense’s motion for judgment of acquittal at the end of the case but judges are loathe to do that. It forces the judge to act for the jury and they don’t like to take the jury’s role away from them unless they see a miscarriage of justice as Judge Zobel clearly believed happened in the Woodward case. I always thought the mother was the one responsible for whatever happened to that baby but, of course, I don’t know. Shaken-baby syndrome is another very controversial topic. It took a long time before it was understood and then acknowledged that there are other causes for what MEs were too quick to conclude were deaths due to shaken-baby syndrome.

    Judges cannot “up what the Jury came back with” because to get to a lesser included offense or a lesser charge the jury has already acquitted on the greater charge(s). Juries are normally instructed to start with the greater charges and work their way down.

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  61. liv4 said on July 6th, 2011 at 9:19 pm

    @UTC: O.M.G. I have been on vacation and followed it on my phone and I was literally sick to my stomach over the “not guilty” verdict. I’m afraid right now I have no faith in the justice system. I was on a jury a couple of years ago dealing with drug sales. The guy who sold the drugs had a specific type of dark colored “garbage” bag he wrapped the drugs in that he sold and police found the same garbage bag material wrapped in small squares that he stuck in his underpants when he was arrested.. He accepted a plea deal right before deliberation. I gave a ride home to one of the jurors and she said she was glad they settled because we would have had to say he was not guilty. I was shocked then too. I finally asked her what the hell she carried around stuffed in her panties? There are a lot of people out there that watch too many detective/cop shows that think everything needs to be handed to a jury as cut and dried and not use logic when it comes to making a decision. I am still disgusted no matter what anyone says to me.

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  62. Guest2 said on July 6th, 2011 at 9:29 pm

    I’ve just finished reading all your great posts and really appreciate all the legal minds taking the time to lay things out for those of us who are having trouble with this verdict. I’m no legal expert in any way but I think I have to agree with Louisianagurl. When I served as a juror 10+ years ago the trial went for two days and involved a man who was charged with illegal possession of a firearm. It carries a mandatory prison sentence here so you really want to be as fair and impartial as you can when your decision can send a man to prison. Most thought he was guilty right off and some thought he was set up by the police. It was actually fairly apparent from the evidence that he was guilty but still it took about 6 hours to come to a decision.

    I just can’t understand how you can sort through two months of testimony in 10 hours and do a thorough job. Not knowing anything about the jurors at this point, I think they were tired of being sequestered for so long (which is understandable) and just wanted it to be over so they rushed to a not guilty verdict. I don’t think the judge will overthrow the verdict but it will be interesting to see what he does in terms of sentencing. I agree that there wasn’t ebough evidence to support a murder charge but there was for the manslaughter charge. She was the last one to see Caylee alive, the child disappeared on her watch and then she lied about what she did with Caylee. Even the defense admitted that. It was her responsibility to protect her young child and she didn’t do that. JMO and as Patty Anne said we can agree to disagree.

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  63. Liz E. said on July 6th, 2011 at 9:47 pm

    .liv4 said on July 6th, 2011 at 9:19 pm .
    @UTC: “I was on a jury a couple of years ago dealing with drug sales. The guy who sold the drugs had a specific type of dark colored “garbage” bag he wrapped the drugs in that he sold and police found the same garbage bag material wrapped in small squares that he stuck in his underpants when he was arrested..”

    I am sure that every other dealer in the neighborhood used the same kind of non-opaque garbage bag material to package their drugs as well. You can be sure that the drug expert will not volunteer that information. And they probably all got the garbage bags from the same local store that had only one brand for sale. So how does this prove that this defendant distributed the same drugs in evidence. It’s not about whether he weas a drug dealer – I’m sure there were plenty of those around. The question at issue is if this particular defendant sold those particular drugs at that particular time. That’s what he was charged with – not just being a drug dealer. To further complicate what may seem like an easy case it could have been just a buyer who would also have similarly packaged drugs on him or even empties. Now maybe there was more evidence but if that was it then your fellow juror was right. You cannot make leaps of inferences regarding evidence. Evidence must be linked by other evidence. Whereas you may have found that to be a reasonable inference someone else could just as reasonably thought it was an impermissible inference to make.

    Life is rarely as simple as it seems. LOL!

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  64. Up the Coast said on July 6th, 2011 at 9:52 pm

    @liv4:
    I’m with you! I was so shocked, I couldn’t believe it. This “mother”, and I use the term loosely…..when her mother demanded to know where Caylee was…..wanted one more day! If her mother hadn’t hunted her down, who knows how long she would have gone without telling anyone Caylee was missing. I am still disgusted no matter what anyone tries to tell me also…..what kind of idiot takes an accident and treats it like a murder? A dumb ass like Casey? Yet, she was smart enough to make a mockery out of our justice system? At least we still have the ability to cast our “vote” as consumers…..and just say NO to Casey Anthony.

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  65. Liz E. said on July 6th, 2011 at 9:52 pm

    Meant opaque, not non-opaque. ^^^

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  66. Up the Coast said on July 6th, 2011 at 9:53 pm

    @liv4:
    But other than that…….I hope you had a nice vacation :)

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  67. siska said on July 6th, 2011 at 9:55 pm

    sorry to interupt people nice conversation…just some info about jen..she talking inside actor studio..that The BreakUP movie really help her with her own break up story (with BP)..she felt the release on it eventhough the producer a bit worry for her..

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  68. siska said on July 6th, 2011 at 9:56 pm

    plus jen will take time to work out with her Gorre Girl script with JTx..imagine she only use him for it..he..he like she used JM to help her with her singing and guitar playing for Goree Girl..he..he good girl

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  69. siska said on July 6th, 2011 at 9:58 pm

    In rotten tomatoes..seem her movie HB..tracking quite good..most people said its funny..and more like to seeing more part of the bosses being in it..I am praying it will ge tgood number in box office weekend

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  70. liv4 said on July 6th, 2011 at 9:59 pm

    @Liz E.:
    I want to clarify that it wasn’t that simple regarding the garbage bag and there was forensic evidence from the state lab to back up the garbage bag with corresponding residue.

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  71. siska said on July 6th, 2011 at 10:00 pm

    Dlisted..just saying that Tree of life Bp movie should come with warning of no sober people should watch it..they should go as high as possible to stand the movie..he..he
    plus Ted C already denied that jen will have baby when she took a break this year.

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  72. siska said on July 6th, 2011 at 10:04 pm

    and my opinon about this CA case..seem she is involve with her kid dissapear,,and the verdict maybe justify cause the jury didnt want to give her death pinalty if she found guilty..cause of the circumtance of the evidence,,if the prosecuter change it to long term jail,,maybe the jury will found more easier to said guilty..anyway..I really hope one day..the justice will be serve specially for this lovely kid..may she rest in peace.

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  73. Up the Coast said on July 6th, 2011 at 10:04 pm

    @Liz E.:
    Actually……if you’ve ever been to a Smoke Shop, they have hundreds of different styles/colors of baggies for drugs and it’s not unusual for different dealers to use a particular color/design….even their street nick name. Sounds stupid, but that’s how arrogant these people can be.

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  74. Up the Coast said on July 6th, 2011 at 10:23 pm

    @siska:
    Many theatres are experiencing people walking out on this flick…..so Michael K might have something there ;)

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  75. liv4 said on July 6th, 2011 at 10:35 pm

    @Up the Coast:
    One thing I do think is that CA will spend the rest of her life basically looking over her shoulder or sleeping with one eye open. I don’t think she has the capability to feel guilt, but I don’t think she will ever be comfortable in society again. And in no way do I want anything to happen to her or anyone else, and I want to make that perfectly clear. I just think she has ruined her life forever and maybe there is some justice in that.

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  76. siska said on July 6th, 2011 at 10:37 pm

    @Up the Coast:
    I dont like movie that too confusing..movie should be entertain..not making you headache..he..he

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  77. Astro said on July 6th, 2011 at 10:37 pm

    Well, Well, Well. What is about John Mayer’s life? What is he thinking about Jen’s HAPPINESS ?

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  78. siska said on July 6th, 2011 at 10:41 pm

    @Up the Coast:
    are you gonna watch jen HB movie?..Im a bit late getting her movie here..agust..so if anyone can get any honest review..I will be happy..either way I always paid to watch her movie..anyone else I just watch dvd..
    but early review seem not so bad..specially from audience..

    oh..anyone read that JD earn 350 mill from Pirates movie?..wow…

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  79. siska said on July 6th, 2011 at 10:42 pm

    @Astro:
    I think he didnt look that good…do u seen his new picture?.he look so bloated..poor guy..

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  80. Up the Coast said on July 6th, 2011 at 10:46 pm

    @liv4:
    I agree….I just hope she never has another child. TMZ is reporting that Vivid Ent. is withdrawing their offer for a porn flick. Apparently she is a boner killer :lol:

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  81. liv4 said on July 6th, 2011 at 10:48 pm

    @Up the Coast:
    LOL. I love the way you put things.

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  82. Up the Coast said on July 6th, 2011 at 10:49 pm

    @siska:
    It’s coming out on Friday! IF we go to the movies this weekend…..we’ll see it, and I’ll let you know.

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  83. Astro said on July 6th, 2011 at 11:23 pm

    @siska:

    I haven’t seen pictures of him a long time ago!!!. Give me the latest picture of him!!!..I mean after Jen and Justin announcement!!

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  84. Astro said on July 6th, 2011 at 11:48 pm

    Everybody is gossiping about it. I hate when Jennifer gives a minimum sign about her past….Come on Jen!!

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  85. siska said on July 7th, 2011 at 5:24 am

    @Up the Coast:
    thank you..really appreciate it..

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  86. siska said on July 7th, 2011 at 5:26 am

    @Astro:
    I saw it when I google..last week..but I try to find it cannot find it..someone said it is on the x17 or radar online archieve..I saw it again in aussie mag..when i scan it quickly in supermarket..but forget the name..he really look bad..he look a bit fat..and messy..

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  87. siska said on July 7th, 2011 at 5:28 am

    @Astro:
    she will not saying anything about it..she is really private if she wanted..specially regarding her exes..which I suspect still her friend..but maybe heartbroken from her?..cause most of the man after broke up with her look not great..

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  88. siska said on July 7th, 2011 at 6:56 am

    Horrible bosses..at the moment tracking 85% fresh at the rotten tomatoes..hope will help the box office…cause that the most count of..

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  89. siska said on July 7th, 2011 at 7:13 am

    @siska:
    oh btw in celebezter..mel..saying that jen was with Jm when he found out that she being texting with Jtx..and he really felt hurt..
    i found a picture of JM arrive on NYC airport around march,,he seem wore a suit..but look a bit gloom..and there are news recently saying that jen had meeting with Jtx around march to discuss the script for Goree Girl..and maybe with the passing of her dog..its amde her realise Jtx is the one..

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  90. WTF said on July 7th, 2011 at 11:19 am

    @siska:
    so justin cheated on heidi and jen cheated on mayer???

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  91. I'm on the bidet said on July 7th, 2011 at 12:32 pm

    Hey Ian, how come I have to find out about your Lady GaGa book from Radar Online?
    http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2011/07/lady-gaga-ian-halperin-tell-all-explosive-revelations-drugs-diet-accusations

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  92. rushdog said on July 7th, 2011 at 12:51 pm

    NOTW ending publication due to the cell phone hacking scandal. Some really invasive tactics in obtaining information. Thinking back to early 2010 and the Brand NOTW “leak” there was some speculation in the online gossips that there was computer hacking in that situation. Don’t know the truth there but it is interesting to follow.

    HEY IAN — any updated information on the “look a-like” posts? There must be some sort of follow-up to come from those posts or did everyone get bought off?

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  93. Kate said on July 7th, 2011 at 12:53 pm

    @WTF:

    Doubtful, I think my dear friend got this one dead on :

    V V = her big Break Up (in the movie industry)
    J M = her intro back to Awards (holding her head up)
    J T =her new image Horrible Bosses, Wanderlust, (and new roles to come)

    Don’t see JT being a daddy or a husband anytime soon, except to his career. He is a good 5-7 years behind her and all those in her circle, including his Megamind co-star. Small town, small circles . jmho for now, and others as well. Probably not on here. Love Jen, but business is business, and she is doing amazing.

    Maybe IAN will give us a new story sometime soon if he will get his tanned butt out of that pool with all the hotties. LOL

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  94. Guest2 said on July 7th, 2011 at 1:06 pm

    @Kate:
    Kate, what’s your opinion as to why she’s taking time off if that is true? Does she have a baby in the works via surrogate maybe? With “the embryos”?? It’s hard to know with her, she’s very good at keeping her life private and showing only what she wants people to see.

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  95. Kate said on July 7th, 2011 at 2:00 pm

    @Guest2:

    Let me see , how can I say this without making the majority angry, I adore Jen, her movie is going to do amazing, open doors were not open, change perceptions of her, it will be a terrific lead in to her next film that absolutely needs to do well for DW to get what he is trying to get right now. He started that campaign back with the Hangover II promos, however so subliminal many did not notice, actually even before. I believe her team has dispelled the taking time off and said that while she is not picking up a role in 2011 , she is promoting Wanderlust and the film she directed, both come out in October, so she is working through out the year. She is also looking at projects for 2012.

    I have no idea if she has a baby in the works, she is very good at keeping her life private, very good at leaking only what she wants out there for a specific time and reason, and Jen like most of is rather outspoken about feeling it is really none of anyone’s business to what is and is not in her life. At the same time she has no problem making her coupling with JT very public at the party and showing off the matching rings, making it clear they were in Manhattan together , allowing the reports from friends to come out, yet at the same time, sneaking in and out or back doors separately as though they are not a couple. I am sure she has a reason, but if I highly doubt that it is that he does not want his photo taken as he has been shot at every event he has ever been too, and was definitely not shy about it. Why the games, no idea, but I suppose it would make breaking up easier. I dunno.

    Personally I reflected in my previous post what I feel is the truth though as far as her relationships are concerned. I don’t believe that she was ever trying to have a baby with JM and I don’t believe she is with JT. Jen is 42 years old and the likelihood of her just “getting ” pregnant is not good, which would mean some help, maybe just treatments. I just don ‘t see her taking that step with someone who just came out of a 14 year relationship, whether if was a month ago or six months ago. I definitely do not see him committing to it. He is on his way up, last thing he needs is a fall out with an A list star, much less the beloved one. That aside, I don’t think it was ever end a consideration regardless of what she tells who to tell who.

    As far as he goes, I am sure he is nice enough, fits the part, knows all of her friends, worked on Megamind with Brad, her film HB and his film TOL opening wide on 7/8 just as they marketed back in 2008. Maximum exposure by the agents, oh look it is Brad vs Jen again, as silly as that may sound, it is what they do.

    Games they all play, I love Jen, she is adorable, smart, a rich, and knows exactly what she is doing, getting richer. lol and keeping her life private. Not sure the rest really matters, one day she will surprise us all or maybe she will just keep on doing this forever. It seems to be working.

    I am being realistic btw, no conspiracies, no fairytale, no hooking her up with anyone, just basing this on business relations only that I am aware of. fwiw. and it is jmho.

    IAN has the real sources . ;)

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  96. Kate said on July 7th, 2011 at 2:04 pm

    excuse the jumbled words, in a hurry, ttl have a nice day.

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  97. yes said on July 7th, 2011 at 2:53 pm

    Justin at Jen ’s ceremony at chinese theatre

    http://lockerz.com/s/117922471

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  98. Dream said on July 7th, 2011 at 4:26 pm

    @Kate:
    I agree jen keeps her private life very private. One of Ian’s clues was just be cause I haven’t told you I have a child does not mean I don’t. Do you think its a possibility she has adopted or had a surrogate at some point and we just don’t know it? Or am I totally crazy with this idea?

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  99. Guest2 said on July 7th, 2011 at 4:57 pm

    @Kate:
    Kate, thank you for always taking the time to answer my emails. I’ll try not to bother you again (for a while anyway :)

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  100. Guest2 said on July 7th, 2011 at 5:05 pm

    @Dream:
    I wondered the same thing.

    HRH, I don’t want to bother you too much since it looks like you are having such a good time but could you please address the jen baby issue again. There’s Dream’s comment above and then in your last clue you said jen’s moon no harvest. And there were all those IVF clues a couple of months ago. Does she have a baby and, if so, was it by surrogate and who is the father? Please? Thanks.

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  101. Guest2 said on July 7th, 2011 at 5:07 pm

    @Guest2:
    Silly question, it would have to be by surrogate if she does since she’s been so visible the past couple of years. But silly or not the question stands.

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  102. Evil Kitty said on July 7th, 2011 at 6:29 pm

    Didn’t someone on this site say something about Ang would try and steal Justin and then Brad would be free for Jen or something like that? One of the rag mags have a story out about that per Dlisted, lol. MK be soooo funny. The tabs be funny too.

    http://www.dlisted.com/2011/07/07/hobo-mine#comments

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  103. Dream said on July 7th, 2011 at 6:39 pm

    @Guest2:
    lol it could be adoption, u made me laugh tho. i can always use that ty

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  104. WCKitty said on July 7th, 2011 at 6:52 pm

    @Evil Kitty:
    That is funny! Seriously though, all Justin has to do is look at what has happened to Brad’s looks in the last few years and he’ll go into hiding from Angie’s evil clutches! :)

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  105. siska said on July 7th, 2011 at 7:03 pm

    @WTF:
    look like it..drama…but she look happy..specially now she seem confident enough to show JTx on public..yeah!!!

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  106. siska said on July 7th, 2011 at 7:04 pm

    @yes:
    thank you ..im wake up with such a beautiful news and picture..yeah!!

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  107. siska said on July 7th, 2011 at 7:12 pm

    @Kate:
    I like your take..I will add some about why she sneak around..cause she believe that her real picture taken when she is in the official duty when she promote her movie..like in the award or magazine she is agree to be taken..so the paparazi picture not really value..
    Thats why she use the same clothes or didnt appear together when she being spotted by paparazy..but I agree they all use the media to sell their movie..unfortunately..the media and public still get the most exposure when they link together..eventhough..jen really wanted to stay away from Bp drama..but unfortunately..the saga sell more..

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  108. Guest2 said on July 7th, 2011 at 7:24 pm

    @Evil Kitty:
    That was really funny. I think this is a plan hatched by brad and jen that will work perfectly. Jen’s embryos with brad are hatching or have hatched in secret but they can’t get together because angie won’t let brad go until she finds another sucker so in comes Justin who doesn’t really mind doing the favor because he wants to become famous and what better way to do it than to have angie steal him from jen and choose him over brad pitt. Brad and jen get to be together again and raise their little jepittlets. I’m guessing she had more than one embryo implanted in the surrogate so it could be twins or triplets. I hope it’s triplets myself. Angie won’t really mind because justin will write movies for her and if he wants kids she can always pop out a few more because she’s so fertile. They will all live happily ever after. The end. Justin can write the screenplay for the Lifetime movie of the week.

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  109. siska said on July 7th, 2011 at 8:20 pm

    in the pictures..jen blow kisses to Jtx and kristin hann

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  110. Astro said on July 7th, 2011 at 8:40 pm

    Beautiful. A Perfect day for Jen and Justin. God Bless you. Beautiful Couple.

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  111. Evil Kitty said on July 7th, 2011 at 8:42 pm

    @Guest2:

    Oh the conspiracy of it all. I likey. Maybe it’s Justin who is writing this whole thing? Let’s not tell Siska. Just Kidding. :) I liked the little jepittlets, ah, that’s cute.

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  112. siska said on July 7th, 2011 at 9:16 pm

    @Evil Kitty:
    naughty girl!!! he..he..dont crush my justjen romance dream..he..he

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  113. siska said on July 7th, 2011 at 9:17 pm

    @Astro:
    yeah..love it..

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  114. Evil Kitty said on July 7th, 2011 at 9:23 pm

    @siska:

    ;)

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  115. siska said on July 7th, 2011 at 9:32 pm

    @Evil Kitty:
    do read about AJ first directing movie has a title called In the Land Of Blood and Honey…emm..very interesting title..

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  116. siska said on July 7th, 2011 at 9:32 pm

    ok gonna went to work soon..chat later

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  117. Evil Kitty said on July 7th, 2011 at 9:37 pm

    @siska:

    Yeah, I heard that and someone here said it’s not an original title either, that there is a book with that same name. I wonder how high a person should get before attempting to see that flick. jk :)

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  118. Guest2 said on July 7th, 2011 at 10:06 pm

    @Evil Kitty:
    I’d really like it if justin and jen are a real relationship. He looks pretty hot clean shaven and dressed up. I’d choose him over brad any day. I think he’s smarter, more talented and down to earth and he went to Grauman’s to support her which is pretty cool. If it’s not real they’re putting on a good show.

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  119. Evil Kitty said on July 7th, 2011 at 11:06 pm

    @Guest2:

    True that :)

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  120. Kate said on July 8th, 2011 at 2:15 am

    IAN, aren’t you getting all water logged and wrinkled by now honey, time to get out of that pool, your gurls, have questions . Rush wants to know about the Angie look alike, Dream and Guest2 want to know about Jen and her eggs, babies ,embryos or whatever they are, the baby, “just because” and Brad wants us all to know he is still talking about getting married and he never will do it but he wants you to think he will. ha ha. Geez, is he going to shut up about that, just do it already or shut up, and the ones who don’t like Justin want you to say he is fake and the ones who love him want you to say he is the real deal. I see you ducking already, lol. good news is, some don’t care either way about any of them.That would be the ones that are completely sick of all of them. lol I know who they are. ;) ha ha xoxo

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  121. siska said on July 8th, 2011 at 5:16 am

    @Evil Kitty:
    yeah..blood and honey..what a weird combination

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  122. siska said on July 8th, 2011 at 5:55 am

    in the ceremony today..I saw chris mcmilan and her director from the Switch..the better looking one….Im not sure her dad there

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  123. Guest2 said on July 8th, 2011 at 7:37 am

    @Kate:
    Hahaha, Ian can’t duck because he started all this with the cryptic riddles. It would be so much easier if he could just come out and say it. As for brad, I think he dies a little inside each time a state passes a law that allows gay marriage because it gets him that much closer to having to marry his crazy hag. Waiting for Ian……..:)

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  124. siska said on July 8th, 2011 at 8:58 am

    btw..anyone paying attention to the closing of News of the world?..they actually get the truth from tapping the phone..so are the news about Bragie went to lawyers months ago. because they preparing the split?..and they had to apolize for it…NOT total lies?….maybe they had to retract it cause they get the info illigally?..very interesting..

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  125. Child Of Medusa said on July 8th, 2011 at 10:28 am

    Ian Halperin – what are you like???

    Love the pic – your cheeky grin says it all lol

    The Jolie Pitts are finished – hats off to you sir – all your hard work trying to prove they are a sham, finally they will be exposed – they can no longer hide behind their seriously fake smiles and vomit inducing unity.

    “Its All Over” The news of the world exposed these two AFTER Ian predicted the end was nigh. The jolie-pitts are victims of phone-hacking, that’s the only reason they sued the british tabloids.

    NOTW has now collapsed and due to close becuase they have hacked everyone from Royality to Murder victims – Every word printed by the NOTW about the Jolie-Pitts regarding a split was true, right down to the custody and how to divide their fortune.

    Why oh why, did they try to fool us all??

    Why continue with the facade???

    Because Jolie didn’t want the world knowing Ian was right all along.

    GAME OVER…

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  126. Dream said on July 8th, 2011 at 1:24 pm

    @Child Of Medusa:
    LOL Isn’t it weird what some people will put up with just to not have to say they were wrong. But I suppose Aj and BP live in big enough houses that they can tolerate having to stay together.

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  127. Child Of Medusa said on July 8th, 2011 at 2:03 pm

    @Dream:

    LOL yeh true, financial freedom really does have it’s rewards. Some predicted (even wished) it would never last. The hope of impending doom – because lets face it, hell of a lot of people wanted to see Jolie fall flat on her face. The affairs with married/involved men, the smug expression on Jolie’s face after catching Pitt in her net, all this made people pretty mad. Then of course we had the daily rants from Team Jen – how they ever hoped she would get back with Pitt I’ll never know! If I admired someone as much as they claim to “love” Jen why the hell would you wish Pitt on her??? lol – makes zero sense.

    It’s no exaggeration to say that Jolie cannot stand the fact – Ian had inside information way before any newspaper or trash magazines???

    Jolie should save herself from anymore humiliation.

    It’s time to announce the split.

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  128. Dream said on July 8th, 2011 at 4:53 pm

    @Child Of Medusa:
    I agree completely. they looks so miserable. I think the jen brad thing is jsut wanting a fairly tale ending.(I originally wrote that fairy tail, whole different thing lol)
    any way its time to move on and jolie needs to learn to not do the smug face. for all i know shes a nice woman to know but that face would ruin a chance to get to know her. My daughter used to make a weird smirk face when she smiled so we at her down in front of a mirror and made her practice not making it lol. it’s very off putting and i didn’t want her to lose friends jsut because she was making a face she was not aware of.

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  129. Guest2 said on July 8th, 2011 at 6:03 pm

    @Child Of Medusa:
    It’s actually kind of sad that it’s over only because there are children involved but better to separate than live a lie. They looks so miserable together and children pick up on that. I think if their parents are happier apart they will be happier children. I don’t want jen back with brad as I think that ship sailed a long time ago – he’s picked up way too much baggage along the way. That’s why I hope this justin thing is real but that’s her business. It will be interesting to see how they spin a split. I wonder about her mental state and if she can handle a public breakup.

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  130. Dream said on July 8th, 2011 at 6:29 pm

    @Guest2:
    i never really cared about any of the people in this drama until i came here. now i am sooo obsessed lol.
    but i would like to see the best for everyone concerned, especially the children, I am with u i don’t think the pitt jolie union is good for them. they look so sad. jsut look at the pics of brad on wwz with the mysterious woman. he looks so happy and 10 yrs younger.
    jolie looks miserable evry pic i see of her. i know most people here do not like her and not sure that i do, but i would not wish unhappiness on her. shes got a lot of little lives to care for and she can do that much better if she is healthy and happy.
    and i would not wish for jen and brad back together for anything. that’s done. she needs to find happiness. i am of the opinion she has happy relationships away from the spotlight tho. shes too healthy and comfortable with herself to be alone i think. if the jsutin thing is real good for her and i hope it works out.
    thats my wish for all concerned i guess.

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  131. siska said on July 9th, 2011 at 5:16 am

    @Dream:
    i am with you here..didnt like to see any union broke up,.but if that made everyone more happier..so be it..and I surely didnt want to see jen back with Bp..its so much drama..I really wish jen will find happiness with her new man..
    btw..there are report from inside the Chinese Theatre..that before the ceremony..jen and Jtx..kissing and cuddling and he said congratulation and I love u..awwwww..so cute..

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  132. Child Of Medusa said on July 9th, 2011 at 8:08 am

    @Guest2:

    Totally agree about the split. If they were a genuine happy couple, I would wish them good luck, they deserve it – as does every person. But – nobody would be be here, because there would be no scandal to expose. That’s the very point of all of this – they are living a lie. I think people find it very interesting the lengths the Jolie-Pitts go to – all the faking and the hiding and the sham??? It’s actually baffling lol
    I can understand when famous people fake relatuionships for publicity or career etc… but I cannot work out why Jolie and Pitt insist on dragging this out! It’s mental – they are fooling nobody but themselves.

    When I see Jolie clinging to Pitt in HER show of unity and watch as HIS eyes are off looking at anything and everything but her, I can feel myself cringe for Jolie, it’s getting embarrassing to watch. She just looks desperate, and you know it is kind of sad – a faded star that knows she has peaked, you can just see it in when you look at her.

    I don’t wish to sound spiteful about Jolie, she justs has this knack of p*ssing people off – lol Women don’t seem to like her, because in real life, they wouldn’t trust her around their men. It’s not a case of husband trust – it’s about finding true friends – that’s why Jolie is all alone.

    The split will be better for all involved but I think she will be a huge drain on her lovely kids. She is too needy and at times looks like an emotional cripple, her kids will worry more about her than she ever will about them. Jolie’s narcissistic personality has and will continue to damage all those close to her – and that includes her kids.

    Jolie’s biggest fear is – TRUE exposure, that’s why Ian has always made her very uncomfortable, he knows who she really is -

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