IUC World Exclusive: Lips of an Angel Hinder….

Posted on April 22nd, 2011 by HisHighness in IUC:Bits, IUC:Entertainment, IUC:Exclusive

Mick’s Kesha….lost in the deeps…lips of an angel hinder…lipsandlustunder Sir Michael Philip’s satin sheets…lips and lust…Dartford dove saddlery…more love train!!!!!!

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  1. Tamara said on April 22nd, 2011 at 10:09 am

    Right, so I’m back to my original thought that AJ DID have a biological child around the age of 17/18 that she gave up for adoption. I’m pretty sure she gave birth in NYC and now I think the father was indeed Mick Jagger. It is only my opinion but I DO think the child is now coming back to either 1) get to know her Mom, or 2) to raise a big stink or 3) get money. Mick has a daughter who’s nickname is Kesha and another girl named Kesha who many believe to be his daughter but it has never been proven. I also believe this girl lives within the 11 District Court boundaries, GA, FL, AL – and there is some legal issues outstanding. JMHO

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  2. Guesser said on April 22nd, 2011 at 10:15 am

    @Tamara:
    Sounds like it goes with the clues. I’m confused though. What’s up with the horse saddle clue in Dartford, England have to do with it?

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  3. Guesser said on April 22nd, 2011 at 10:15 am

    It does fit with my earlier guess about blackmail (someone wants $).

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  4. sinker said on April 22nd, 2011 at 10:16 am

    Tamara – seems to make sense. “lips of angel hinder” AJ having none of it – will do whatever it takes to block. Lost in the deeps another world of warcraft reference. Also wondering if there was a pregnancy but no birth, but something is causing the story of the pregnancy to finally come out.

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  5. joanne said on April 22nd, 2011 at 10:24 am

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ElOXKt0v7-A

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  6. Tamara said on April 22nd, 2011 at 10:35 am

    @Guesser:
    IDK, but AJ does have an -ahem- history with horses, and maybe Mick is hung like one…??? HAHAHA! j/k around on that one! :) Anyway check this out: themickjaggercentre.com – AYEP you guessed it, in Dartford England! Don’t know what that has to do with this clue though

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  7. Tamara said on April 22nd, 2011 at 10:38 am

    Oh, and Mick was born in Dartford which is in Kent, UK (south of London) maybe BORN is a clue??

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  8. Guest2 said on April 22nd, 2011 at 10:38 am

    Here are the lyrics of “Lips of an Angel” by Hinder for what it’s worth. This clue is all about Mick Jagger so I think you are all on to something with your posts above:

    “Lips Of An Angel”

    Honey why you calling me so late?
    It’s kinda hard to talk right now.
    Honey why are you crying? Is everything okay?
    I gotta whisper ’cause I can’t be too loud

    Well, my girl’s in the next room
    Sometimes I wish she was you
    I guess we never really moved on
    It’s really good to hear your voice saying my name
    It sounds so sweet
    Coming from the lips of an angel
    Hearing those words it makes me weak

    And I never wanna say goodbye
    But girl you make it hard to be faithful
    With the lips of an angel

    It’s funny that you’re calling me tonight
    And, yes, I’ve dreamt of you too
    And does he know you’re talking to me
    Will it start a fight
    No I don’t think she has a clue

    Well my girl’s in the next room
    Sometimes I wish she was you
    I guess we never really moved on
    It’s really good to hear your voice saying my name
    It sounds so sweet
    Coming from the lips of an angel
    Hearing those words it makes me weak

    And I never wanna say goodbye
    But girl you make it hard to be faithful
    With the lips of an angel

    It’s really good to hear your voice saying my name
    It sounds so sweet
    Coming from the lips of an angel
    Hearing those words it makes me weak

    And I never wanna say goodbye
    But girl you make it hard to be faithful
    With the lips of an angel

    And I never wanna say goodbye
    But girl you make it hard to be faithful
    With the lips of an angel

    Honey why you calling me so late?

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  9. Dream said on April 22nd, 2011 at 11:07 am

    http://www.ibabycouture.com/blog/?p=4142 seems it maybe an on again off again thing if she had an affair with mick that long ago.
    @Tamara:

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  10. Tetta said on April 22nd, 2011 at 11:09 am

    Angelina and lips. The first thing that pops up in my brain, exept that her lips are hugh, is that she very open used her lip gloss att the Golden Glopes. Depending on what was in that lipgloss, I can think both of “lips and lust” and “lips of an angel”.

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  11. Inottawa said on April 22nd, 2011 at 11:20 am

    I dunno… Alleged affair in 1997. Gia aired in 1998 and Girl Interrupted in 1999. When would there have been 9 months to have a baby in that time period? If this is about the rumour of a lost baby who now has loose lips I think the Jagger reference is a red herring.

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  12. Justa Visitor said on April 22nd, 2011 at 11:21 am

    I think she and Mick would make a good pair – very intriguing. Much more interesting than the present coupling! I could definitely see some chemistry at work here.

    Thanks for the article, Dream. Very interesting.

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  13. Dream said on April 22nd, 2011 at 11:22 am

    @Inottawa:
    I think the baby is supposed to be earlier.

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  14. sinker said on April 22nd, 2011 at 11:23 am

    @Tamara:
    I guess in Keith’s book last year he declared mick to be hung more like shetland pony.

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  15. Dream said on April 22nd, 2011 at 11:26 am

    @Justa Visitor:
    LOL now that’s a romance I would follow. How fascinating would they be and I could see real chemistry playing into that that translated to film. ]

    LOL I guess I can’t make people fall in love just cause I want to see it, sort of like my gb ja baby , boy do I have an imagination.

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  16. joanne said on April 22nd, 2011 at 11:35 am

    Anybody Seen My Baby was recorded in 1997 and Jolie was featured in that video.

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  17. Dream said on April 22nd, 2011 at 11:48 am

    Very funny LOL

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  18. Patty Anne said on April 22nd, 2011 at 11:50 am

    Thanks for the link Joanne, it had been ages since I’ve seen that video. Noticed the close up of angie at the end with her original nose. What a shame she destroyed what made her beautiful with all the surgeries. @joanne:

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  19. joanne said on April 22nd, 2011 at 12:01 pm

    @Patty Anne:
    She would have been stunning right now if she didn’t mess with her looks.

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  20. sinker said on April 22nd, 2011 at 12:11 pm

    @joanne:
    With all the drugs and starving she’s done over the years, she’d probably look a lot more worn out than the 40-ish pointy tucked fake face she is sporting. Normal aging which gives a face a character that is, IMO, often quite beautiful. Then again, given her true character, maybe her naturally-aged-self wouldn’t be so beautiful after all….

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  21. sinker said on April 22nd, 2011 at 12:17 pm

    video-time-wise, they may have been “in talks” long before the vid was shot in ‘97; she could’ve been pregnant in the vid

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  22. Having fun said on April 22nd, 2011 at 12:47 pm

    I have this song on my iPod and everytime I hear it I think of aj Bp and ja – can’t believe it’s part of a clue!! I always thought of it as between them but it makes an intriguing triangle with the undoubtedly Mick reference m, aj and a potential past pregnancy . Sure would explain part of the child collecting, affairs with “off limits” men, distain for other women, attraction to violence, self-inflicted pain. This is getting good – thank you HH! Off to research!

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  23. Tamara said on April 22nd, 2011 at 12:55 pm

    Ian had a clue or Sugar had a riddle awhile back, (maybe a year or so ago) that we all came to the conclusion was most likely MJ – and it seemed that if 17 year old Angie did have an affair with Mick it was with her mothers blessing – in fact, it seems that Marcheline kind of encouraged it to the point of throwing them together. I also think Angie did a video or something with Mick when she was about 17 – I don’t have time to go back and research this, but if someone else does, GREAT! That might help. I was thinking if she had a child it would have been around 1993. She would have been 17 or 18. Which would make the child 17 or 18 now which would make her legal age to look up her birth mother, hire an attorney and/or make some legal trouble or nuisance or whatever for AJ. jmo

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  24. Up the Coast said on April 22nd, 2011 at 1:01 pm

    @joanne:
    Ugh, I need a shower after watching that, and I couldn’t even watch it all.

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  25. Up the Coast said on April 22nd, 2011 at 1:07 pm

    Maybe Mick is really Ange’s father…and that’s why Marcheline wanted Ange to meet Mick??? That could be why she was a different person after leaving NY, and keeps trying to change her appearance :(

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  26. Up the Coast said on April 22nd, 2011 at 1:08 pm

    btw…..that pic is gross too.

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  27. clueless said on April 22nd, 2011 at 1:08 pm

    @Up the Coast:
    yeah…
    and if I read how beautiful she was one more time, I’m gonna scream :lol: It’s true what they say “beauty is in the eye of the beholder”. To me she was kind of weird looking…maybe because I don’t consider pillow lips beautiful…meh…Sorry! :mrgreen:

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  28. joanne said on April 22nd, 2011 at 1:09 pm

    @sinker:
    So she was doomed to look a wreck no matter what. To bad since she had it all but still wanted more.

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  29. elephant said on April 22nd, 2011 at 1:10 pm

    I don’t think that AJ would not claim a child she had with MJ, even if she gave the baby up for adoption. I think she would want to be there for her child, no matter what, she’s the mother. Not all mothers are like that, but having children now, I think she would be. If you think she is awful, at least she would love to have the publicity of having a child with MJ. I think that perhaps she was pregnant but didn’t carry the baby to term and this is what is upsetting. Understandibly, who would want anyone to know if they lost a child or had an abortion. I hope this isn’t about that. I hope if she was pregnant she had a healthy baby and is helping the child now and maybe it’s just MJ that didn’t want anyone to know bc of his wife or other children??? JMO

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  30. Up the Coast said on April 22nd, 2011 at 1:11 pm

    Love train was a previous clue…..did we figure out what it meant??? And now we have More Love Train…what does it mean?

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  31. elephant said on April 22nd, 2011 at 1:14 pm

    @Up the Coast:
    Wow, that’s a story! I think she looked like her dad – Voight – before her surgeries. Even with the lips, she has Voight’s looks. Her brother too. Same forehead and wide eyes. MJ has been thrown in with her a lot, wonder what the real connection is??? If they had an affair it would be interesting to hear but nothing anyone would need to keep under wraps, unless she was underage, even so – after all these years??? You would think any connection she has to him she would want to exploit for publicity…right? JMO – Not run away from it. Maybe he is publishing some of it in his new book and even if he doesn’t say her name, people will know it’s her and it will go against her image now. IDK

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  32. clueless said on April 22nd, 2011 at 1:16 pm

    Did any of you bump last year’s “New Tell All Brangelina” thread @ FF?
    Was that story a hoax?

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  33. Dream said on April 22nd, 2011 at 1:37 pm

    all I keep thinking of is train cars hooking up at random and making a longer and longer train that leads to lots of different places( interconnected people) yep that’s a clear concise thought.@Up the Coast:

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  34. Guest2 said on April 22nd, 2011 at 1:44 pm

    I searched for the music video and found a couple of links to you tube but couldn’t view the video. I also found the following and you are supposed to be able to view a promo of the video which I can’t do where I am because I don’t have flash player. Also, not much time to search but at the link below there is a photo of her from Lara Croft days. She looks like a different person today.

    http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/showbiz/bizarre/2879389/Mick-Jagger-and-Angelina-Jolie-had-an-affair.html

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  35. Tetta said on April 22nd, 2011 at 1:44 pm

    If I translate directly from swedish “a man saddle a women” means that a man have sex with a women ( also the same as “ride a horse”)

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  36. Tetta said on April 22nd, 2011 at 1:47 pm

    As I´m already out on a limb I can continue with a farfetched thing: Jens mother last name is Dove.

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  37. Up the Coast said on April 22nd, 2011 at 1:48 pm

    @Dream:
    Yea, that makes sense. Whenever you have sexual relations with someone, you are having sexual relations with everyone that person has had sexual relations with……YIKES!!!!!

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  38. meldoesn'tknowjackshit said on April 22nd, 2011 at 1:53 pm

    You nasty evil bicthes what the hell is your problem. This UGLY ass Ian you need a fucking life. You and your followeres need to eat Angelina’s shit. Get the hell off of this woman’s back you certifiable psychos

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  39. Patty Anne said on April 22nd, 2011 at 1:54 pm

    I think you hit on it UTC. Whomever you have sexual relations with you are also having relations with everyone they did, and so on and on. Angie was caught on the set of MAMS giving Brad a blow-job in the trailer, so seems a lot of the clues center about her speciality. Could it be she also did Mick that way and caught something unpleasant? I’ve read in a few places where she gave Brad herpies, but don’t know if it’s a fact or not. Herpies would make vaginal birth unlikely, so it would also explain her c-sections. She’s carrying an STD for which there is no cure. As for the song, seems to me it’s Brad singing about not intending to end up with Jolie and not intending to divorce his wife. Hey, chyt happens when you step out of bounds.@Up the Coast:

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  40. sinker said on April 22nd, 2011 at 1:55 pm

    @clueless:

    saw that and goog.led it. the story about the book “coming out next week” popped up in a bunch of places, but i can’t find where the book actually came out. maybe it was stopped?

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  41. Patty Anne said on April 22nd, 2011 at 1:57 pm

    If I remember correctly it was Angie’s mother who had the hots for MJ, but he didnt’ give her the time of day, so she encouraged her young ( 16 I’m thinking here) daughter to persue MJ instead. MJ was very taken with the young Angie ( it has to be the lips because he later married Bianca who had those lips like AJ and MJ) Who knows what actually transpired between them back then.@elephant:

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  42. Up the Coast said on April 22nd, 2011 at 1:59 pm

    @Patty Anne:
    Thanks Dream ;)

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  43. sinker said on April 22nd, 2011 at 2:00 pm

    @sinker:

    after even more searching, thinking that “jenny paul” was a pseudonym because that name only appears in conjunction w/ article that the book was coming out. so maybe the actual book coming out was a hoax and was used by the source get out the word on AJ’s secrets. Or maybe jenny paul is James Haven’s pseudonym : )

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  44. Up the Coast said on April 22nd, 2011 at 2:02 pm

    Ian….are we on or off track here?

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  45. Up the Coast said on April 22nd, 2011 at 2:05 pm

    I think that Ange is more concerned about her standing with the UN and CFR. She has lied on adoption applications also, so she’s walking a tightrope of sorts, trying to keep all her ducks in a row. Not an easy task for a woman with her “struggles”. Brad doesn’t want to be her scapegoat either.

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  46. Patty Anne said on April 22nd, 2011 at 2:06 pm

    If that is true and what I’d heard about BBT is true (Shetland Pony also) no wonder she and Brad have an open relationship like she said in her “Fiedelity Isn’t Essential” quote ( http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/Movies/angelina-jolie-brad-pitt-complicated-spotlight-open-relationships/story?id=9441030 @sinker:

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  47. sinker said on April 22nd, 2011 at 2:14 pm

    @Up the Coast:
    http://ianundercover.com/2011/04/11/iuc-world-exclusive-love-train-tell-all-the-folks-in-egypt-and-israel-too/

    here is the previous love train thread if that helps.

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  48. Dream said on April 22nd, 2011 at 2:15 pm

    @Up the Coast:
    LOL maybe I am very slightly getting the hang of this. learning whole new area of research if nothing else.

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  49. Up the Coast said on April 22nd, 2011 at 2:19 pm

    @Patty Anne:
    This is bullshit. These people are living a lie because they don’t want to “lose what they have”. She’s copying the Jane and Jerry Weintraub’s of HW. This is another example of pushing the envelope of society, our laws and religion. Whatever! They do this shit for purely selfish reasons. They love their money more than they love anything else.

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  50. elephant said on April 22nd, 2011 at 2:21 pm

    @meldoesn’tknowjackshit:
    Eeeew! That’s gross and I am not sure why you are so friggin angry but chill out. No one is on her back here, calm down. We don’t know what the riddle is about, so unless you do and care to share, then just go.

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  51. Up the Coast said on April 22nd, 2011 at 2:22 pm

    @sinker:
    Thanks…..the love train is a big fat lie, there is no love lost between these two.

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  52. Up the Coast said on April 22nd, 2011 at 2:22 pm

    @elephant:
    Don’t feed the trolls…

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  53. Bottles said on April 22nd, 2011 at 2:24 pm

    been a while since I posted although I do come back to read some of your posts –
    …..Not much came from Ian’s flight recently when he said he had uncovered “dirt” from the person sitting next to him. I’m sure there will always be “dirt” when it comes to these two but I wish Ian would throw us a real bone from time to time.
    Recent clues do not have tags – could this mean “the call” from a few weeks ago, was taken to heart my HRH ?
    anyhow – havn’t uncovered anything new per se but here goes,
    ____________________________________________________________________________________________________
    Micks’ Kesha – Could it be AJ and Kesha Sebert have hooked up in LA ?! She is the mediator ? (AJ&MJ)

    Lost in the Deeps – A game, where “pebble” is lost in the depths and needs to be freed before he is eaten by gyreworms. He is spoilt and smarter than he lets on. (BP ?)

    Lips of an angel hinder ….Song by hinder. (Lyrics posted earlier)
    The lyrics deal with a singer describing his feelings when his favored girlfriend from his past calls late at night, somewhat pleasantly interrupting his current relationship. More than once, a reference to the call being secret is made, and the singer expresses concern of a fight ensuing as a result. The song concludes just as it began, with the singer questioning to why she is calling so late, though the second (and last) time it is less literal and more figurative, with the underlying meaning “so late” not at night, but way too late in life; unable to continue the previous relationship. The song ends with the plot unresolved.
    (BP & JA ??)

    Under Sir Michael Phillips Satin sheets – (obvious – AJ & MJ)

    Lips&Lust – (AJ & MJ)

    Dartford Dove, Saddlery – Mike Jagger born in Dartford, Kent which was already posted
    Dove Saddlery – is a website for saddlery and leather goods (Dove Saddlery specialises in bespoke items all made to meet our customers individual requirements). (Kinky stuff between AJ & MJ)

    More love train – calling for unity, making an announcement all over the world (no idea who…)

    FYI -
    http://www.cnngo.com/bangkok/none/angelina-jolie-and-mick-jaggers-bangkok-connection-078830
    AJ and MJ in Bangkok – April 2003
    Prior relationship 1997 (while he was married to Jerry hall)

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  54. Guesser said on April 22nd, 2011 at 2:29 pm

    Back to the Dartford dove saddlery. The dove saddles place is actually located in Norfolk, England. There’s also a Norfolk in Virginia, U.S. Maybe a clue to a place (Norfolk) and maybe someone is being ‘reined’ in? As someone else mentioned (can’t remember which of you), Dartford is also where MJ was born. Also, some of Tomb Raider was filmed in Norfolk, England.

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  55. Bottles said on April 22nd, 2011 at 2:31 pm

    @Up the Coast:
    AGREED ! It’s all about themselves while they pretend to be helping those less fortunate. yeah right !

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  56. Up the Coast said on April 22nd, 2011 at 2:34 pm

    I’m still wondering about Marcheline’s obsession with Mick….was she a groupie? Did they have an encounter and Ange was the result? She thought Mick would see Ange and realize she was his daughter, but instead……. Sorry, but the timelines/ages fit this scenario. It is a dark secret that could have a devastating effect on her career. Hahaha….too much???

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  57. Guesser said on April 22nd, 2011 at 2:35 pm

    @Guesser:
    Lots of “alsos” in that post! For the love train clue, maybe it’s about group sex?

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  58. Dream said on April 22nd, 2011 at 2:38 pm

    I have some girls running thru my head now for some reason. I think the some girls give me children lyric probably.

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  59. rushdog said on April 22nd, 2011 at 2:46 pm

    Been on vacation….I don’t think Mick has a daughter named Kesha, I believe it’s Karis. Ian notted MJ as AJ’s father back, said it is JV. There are also rumors that Kesha is MJ’s daughter which have been reported as not true also. But I think in this clue “Mick’s Kesha” refers to AJ (as in the same type of rumor/lips). It appears to me that Ian changes the identifying name to fit the post. This “more love train” video is the Rolling Stones performance in Paris in 2003. And I also get the feeling that AJ returns to people in her past for “support” (whatever that may actually mean).

    So AJ (Mick’s Kesha)….got “lost” again/needs help getting out/crumbling depths (lost in the depths/warcraft ref again)….calling again when each is with another/will always care for each other (lips of an angel hinder)…get together (under MJ’s satin sheets/self-explan..)..just for fun (lips and lust)…support structure (Dartford dove saddlery)….Paris 2003 (more love train)!!.

    (a saddle is a support structure for a rider or other load….made by a saddlery…Dartford, Eng. refers to MJ. There may be more to this clue but it appears to be making a more recent connection to MJ. I believe he was in Cannes in 2008 at the dinner with Clint too.)

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  60. Bottles said on April 22nd, 2011 at 2:50 pm

    @rushdog:
    Welcome Back rushdog. Hope vacation was fun and relaxing as it should be.
    Nice thoughts ——lots to ponder over.

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  61. Dream said on April 22nd, 2011 at 2:50 pm

    @rushdog:
    good to see u rushdog

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  62. Up the Coast said on April 22nd, 2011 at 2:52 pm

    @rushdog:
    Welcome Back!

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  63. Guesser said on April 22nd, 2011 at 2:54 pm

    @rushdog:
    About the saddle clue, I agree, MJ may be reining her in.

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  64. rushdog said on April 22nd, 2011 at 3:06 pm

    Thanks for the welcome back. Am still on vacation and it took this long to wrestle some time on the computer from my children!

    I don’t think MJ is “reining her in” really. He appears to be in and out of her life as are others that she’s had a relationship with (nothing wrong with that really). But if it’s out of a need, the reconnect may be misplaced and not as helpful to someone as they may feel. I’d say Ian is establishing a long term connection as he did with CS, although with CS there was a similarity in behavior. I don’t see a child in this clue; a definite connection which Ian has indicated in the past (popping a cherry?? and it may have been in the book). Just my take on this for now.

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  65. Up the Coast said on April 22nd, 2011 at 3:11 pm

    Ange claims that she really has NO friends, that Brad is her only friend. Now, I realize we can’t really believe anything that comes out of her mouth…..but if she tends to reconnect with past acquaintances/lovers everytime she’s having a bad time…I would think these people would avoid her calls after awhile. Or maybe that’s just me……I would avoid her calls, after awhile :lol:

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  66. Dream said on April 22nd, 2011 at 3:23 pm

    @Up the Coast:
    You meanie:lol:

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  67. elephant said on April 22nd, 2011 at 3:43 pm

    @Patty Anne:
    I heard that about her mom too – not sure if it is true or not, or even where I heard it. Maybe on this site or in a book. Interesting!

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  68. elephant said on April 22nd, 2011 at 3:47 pm

    @Up the Coast:
    Good advice – will follow :)

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  69. Guest2 said on April 22nd, 2011 at 3:52 pm

    @rushdog:
    Rushdog, nice to have your thoughts. You’re always the voice of reason. Enjoy your vacation.

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  70. Sadiaah said on April 22nd, 2011 at 4:49 pm

    IAN HALPERIN You and your CULT are being sued for slander. Expect a knok on your door Sherrif’s Deptment with a warrent in hand. Enough is damn Enough.

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  71. Guest1 said on April 22nd, 2011 at 4:51 pm

    Some random comments. Mick Jagger attended Brad Grey’s engagement party so I assume he was at the wedding. If the rumors are correct, Brad Pitt will be filming in London soon. Doesn’t MJ live in London? Is AJ back in contact with MJ and possibly plans on visiting him in London when BP is filming?

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  72. badasschubbychickinminiskirt said on April 22nd, 2011 at 4:55 pm

    @Sadiaah:

    LOL

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  73. clueless said on April 22nd, 2011 at 4:56 pm

    :lol:
    Why can’t the loons stop embarrassing themselves?

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  74. meldoesn'tknowjackshit said on April 22nd, 2011 at 4:59 pm

    Very well done Sadiaah. I am glad to know that you took the intiative as a concerned citizen on Angelina’s behalf. I wish I had the nerve to do what you did. Lets hope this get some results and shut down this website for good. I hope the disgusting Pig and his minions could afford the outcme of this because they so deserve everthing that is going to happen to them . I am so looking forwards to this. I do not care how much a settlement the JPS get so long as the courts put an end to this travesty they call a blog and free spech

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  75. Guest1 said on April 22nd, 2011 at 4:59 pm

    @Sadiaah:
    You should really educate yourself before you bring up the word slander.

    Are you threatening Ian and his “cult”? It seems like a threat to me.

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  76. Up the Coast said on April 22nd, 2011 at 5:03 pm

    Knock, knock….who’s there? The sherriff’s dept…here to put an end to this travesty of free speech :lol:

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  77. clueless said on April 22nd, 2011 at 5:06 pm

    where was that picture? … ah, here it is
    http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/9518/looncallsfbi.gif

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  78. Up the Coast said on April 22nd, 2011 at 5:07 pm

    Expect a knock on your door loon, from the grammar police!!! THAT is a travesty, I tell you. All those tax dollars just wasted on your education, boo-hoo :oops:

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  79. Sadiaah said on April 22nd, 2011 at 5:08 pm

    Thank you Mel for your support. Its nice to have some support from someone who understands and are fans of the Jolie-Pitts.

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  80. Up the Coast said on April 22nd, 2011 at 5:08 pm

    @clueless:
    :lol: You read my mind!!! :lol: I’ll bet it was a short read…..haha.

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  81. Dream said on April 22nd, 2011 at 5:23 pm

    oops thought police are after us. LOL

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  82. Tamara said on April 22nd, 2011 at 5:39 pm

    @Sadiaah:
    It’s been my experience that you loons only get this angry when Ian gets too close to the truth for comfort!! YOU my friend are just confirming it – so thank you so much for that!!

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  83. Up the Coast said on April 22nd, 2011 at 5:40 pm

    @Dream:
    The Dream Police ;)

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  84. Up the Coast said on April 22nd, 2011 at 5:40 pm

    @Tamara:
    Bingo!

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  85. Dream said on April 22nd, 2011 at 5:47 pm

    @Up the Coast:
    LOL

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  86. Guest1 said on April 22nd, 2011 at 5:56 pm

    I don’t know if this story is true. Someone posted the following a little while ago on FF:

    National Enquirer has a cover story about Brangelina. The article claims that Jolie’s prior drug use and addiction may have caused damage to the twins. The article also mentions internet rumblings that Viv has downs. It’s a pretty inflamatory article. I can’t imagine the Brand not suing over it. NE also has a doctor saying that Viv looks like she has some symptoms of downs. If the Brand sued over info getting out about their settlement agreement, they should sue over this one. If those kids are not sick, it’s really bad for NE to claim they might be. Also, NE quotes . message board commenters. Interesting. I would scan it but NE doesn’t fit into my small scanner.

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  87. Tetta said on April 22nd, 2011 at 5:59 pm

    Knok knok!!

    Sadiaah has the same level on her spelling as I have! At least I could blame my bad spelling on being a forigner. I agree with you. Your tax dollars are really wasted on this person.

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  88. Dream said on April 22nd, 2011 at 6:00 pm

    @Guest1:
    interesting if they don’t sue.

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  89. Up the Coast said on April 22nd, 2011 at 6:08 pm

    @Tetta:
    I love your avi Tetta…it is SO cute!

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  90. Tetta said on April 22nd, 2011 at 6:17 pm

    @UTC

    Yes, I like it too! Can you feel the wind in your face ? It´s windy on Island Land.

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  91. Tamara said on April 22nd, 2011 at 6:58 pm

    @Up the Coast:
    AYEP :)

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  92. Tamara said on April 22nd, 2011 at 7:00 pm

    @Guest1:
    Really? Well, it will be interesting to see if they sue – because if they DON;T that says more than if they did, right? message board commenters – hmmmmmmm veddy inneresting! lol

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  93. Tidbit said on April 22nd, 2011 at 7:33 pm

    @Guest1:
    They can’t sue, if they did they would lose and draw more attention to the story itself
    1.they are public figures subject to scrutiny in the US and the privacy laws are not as strict as in the UK
    2. Using words like suspects, speculates, appears to, observes, are all words that show the article as an opinion of the author. It’s ok to have an opinion, because they are public figures we can speculate all we want and it is not slander and therefore not libelous.
    3. However, the article is in poor taste and many many genetic disorders have Down’s Characteristics. Drug use does not cause Down Syndrome. The most obvious indication Viv doesn’t have Down’s is her ears are not low set and she does not have a simian crease
    4. Remember the words opinion, speculate, observe, appears to, in my view etc etc. ;)

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  94. Dream said on April 22nd, 2011 at 7:46 pm

    @Tidbit:
    You would think they would have a reporter do a story on there being nothing wrong with the twins with a nice copy of a med report and stop all the speculation. I know they don’t have to but people do wonder and I think mostly out of concern. they invited us in their lives and now they sort of have to live with that. I agree they don’t look like they have downs to me but in a lot of pictures they do seem a little off. people aren’t making that up. If it’s just bad pics dress them up nice and get some good ones lol.

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  95. Up the Coast said on April 22nd, 2011 at 8:40 pm

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_BVxUhoYcj0

    This song could be talking about Jen….she has lips too ;)

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  96. Dream said on April 22nd, 2011 at 8:43 pm

    @Up the Coast:
    That does sound like jen to me.

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  97. Up the Coast said on April 22nd, 2011 at 8:48 pm

    @Dream:
    cuz joLIE’s NO angel.

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  98. Dream said on April 22nd, 2011 at 8:50 pm

    @Up the Coast:
    lol
    she’s no lady either in my opinion.

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  99. Dream said on April 22nd, 2011 at 8:51 pm

    seriously it fits with the clues that were guessed they still keep in contact and i can imagine aj would n ot be happy. i know i wouldn’t.

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  100. elephant said on April 22nd, 2011 at 9:16 pm

    Someone said before that (it was on some tabloid cover) aj caught bp calling ja and ja statewd in an interview that she still spoke to bp on the phone. Maybe someone who mentioned it before was right, maybe they all get along just fine. All ja ever said publicly about aj was she was happy brad got to work with her then later said her talking about falling in love on mr.mrs smith was uncool. Doesn’t sound mean at all. Maybe to them things are fine…maybe its just the public making this all up…just a thought. On the other side we have one of ja bffs calling aj horrible names…if ja was cool with everything then I don’t think she would want her bff (chelsey handler) saying those things right? Buuuut chelsey handler is a comedian who has a schtick of doing things like calling out celebs and being raunchy like that,, could be just one of her many jokes, I took it that way. I don’t know tho…I am lost!

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  101. elephant said on April 22nd, 2011 at 9:26 pm

    This picture is funny – notice the extremely long and skeletal hands, anorexic waistline and huge lips! Huh, straaaange caricature

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  102. elephant said on April 22nd, 2011 at 9:26 pm

    I keep missing the floods of posters here :) Anyway, I don’t have a clue on any of these riddles, so was just hoping to see if others had luck. tata

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  103. Dream said on April 22nd, 2011 at 9:30 pm

    @elephant:
    I am not so sure ch does that for ja. she did a brief aj love thing and it did not go over well with viewers. her fans are not the aj fan type.
    i think ja has done exactly what she should have in public, but i can’t see her in private being quite that easy going on the subject of some other woman making a laughing stock out of her. Personally I think she and brad were over before he moved on but he should have shown some class and broke up in a way it did not hurt either of them.

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  104. Dream said on April 22nd, 2011 at 9:31 pm

    @elephant:
    geeze girly give me time to type i am slowwwwww.

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  105. Dream said on April 22nd, 2011 at 9:31 pm

    meant to add a smiley to that but i am sure u knew it was a joke.

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  106. Up the Coast said on April 22nd, 2011 at 9:45 pm

    I believe Chelsea when she said she dissed joLIE in her act, long before she knew Jen.

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  107. elephant said on April 22nd, 2011 at 10:27 pm

    @Dream:
    yes:) Good post too about how they were probably over before he moved on. No one will ever know for sure but him I guess.

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  108. elephant said on April 22nd, 2011 at 10:29 pm

    what’s interesting is the thing about sources is that they don’t really know the whole picture either, just something someone told them or something they overheard or saw. It’s all perspective. Even if someone said that AJ told them she wanted to break up JA and BP a year before she got together with BP, AJ might have just been kidding, or after she said it never thought it would actually happen, then it did. Guess I am just saying that only each individual really knows their own intentions and thoughts, feelings, etc.

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  109. elephant said on April 22nd, 2011 at 10:33 pm

    @Up the Coast:
    I share your opinion, I have watched chelsey handler a lot in the past and it’s her show. She does it with a lot of public people and Aj has been an easy target, just as most people in the public. It’s actually refreshing to know that like Ricky Gervais some people don’t handle certain people with kid gloves just because of their connections, they call them out just like they do everyone else.

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  110. elephant said on April 22nd, 2011 at 10:34 pm

    Sorry Dream and UTC, I keep jumping on and offline (lot going on) so I have been cluster posting! :) haha

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  111. elephant said on April 22nd, 2011 at 10:34 pm

    @Dream:
    Ps I am not a girl, didn’t you know ;)

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  112. Dream said on April 22nd, 2011 at 10:45 pm

    @elephant:
    lmao i always assume everyone is a girl sorry.

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  113. siska said on April 23rd, 2011 at 12:59 am

    There is news that Aj being signed on for the face of Louis V..for 10 mil..
    finally the pictures of her and her daughters with all LV bag being paid off..he.he

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  114. kirst said on April 23rd, 2011 at 7:17 am

    @siska:
    I thought the same thing when I read it

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  115. Tetta said on April 23rd, 2011 at 8:52 am

    There is a song called “Satin sheets”. The lyrics is simple and naiv (about love and money) so I´m doubtfullI Ian has has any thoughts about it. But we better turn every stone around to see what we may find.

    /www.metrolyrics.com/satin-sheets-lyrics-tammy-wynette.html

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  116. Patty Anne said on April 23rd, 2011 at 9:36 am

    A random thought about the use of “love train”: Angie is the engine and the train consists of all her sexual contacts. Wow, that would be a long train. Hmmm, Moved in b/f when 14, then Mom’s b/f at 16, Mick Jagger, Timothy Hutton, Colin Farrell, Billy Bob Thornton, Johnny Lee Miller, Jenny Shimizu, Dialect coach from SALT, Brad Pitt. Now who did I leave out?

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  117. Geez Louise said on April 23rd, 2011 at 10:16 am

    @elephant:
    Watched Chelsea the other night and AJ was brought up. One of the comedians came running out during the show with the STAR or Enquirer in his hand. He runs up to the table and says I’ve got breaking news! Chelsea was like OK Jiffy what is it. He reads, Angelina Jolie had a seventh tatoo added to her arm. It is the coordinates of the secret place that she and Brad are getting married at. Chelsea says “that’s it”. Then she says UM, no it’s not, looks at the camera and scoffs “It isn’t”. Sounds like she knows what’s going on. She knows there ain’t no way these two are getting married.. ………

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  118. Dream said on April 23rd, 2011 at 10:36 am

    @Geez Louise:
    interesting

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  119. Pauly P said on April 23rd, 2011 at 12:39 pm

    I think most media outlets know what’s going on. I have seen diff sites bringing up heroine any time they have a dopey looking pic of AJ. This was a funny clip I saw on TMZ, they are pretty much saying it too:

    http://www.tmz.com/2011/04/05/brad-pitt-video-tmz-on-tv-piece-clip/

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  120. Guest2 said on April 23rd, 2011 at 12:58 pm

    Here are the first two posts on the last Love train clue that was put up on April 11th:

    badasschubbychickinminiskirt said on April 11th, 2011 at 8:52 am .
    So the Brand are participating in this supposed ‘love train’, holding hands and demonstrating to the world the power of peace and love, when in reality, it’s a dark, tenebrous, hostile world they both share with each other.

    Reply .. .HisHighness said on April 11th, 2011 at 8:54 am .
    @badasschubbychickinminiskirt:
    @badasschubbychickinminiskirt:
    good on ya!!!! Happy Monday!!!!

    On April 12th the Brangelina heading to Cannes stories appeared. On April 13th they were photographed at the God of Carnage play and there were subsequently tabloid stories of them being secretely married, or getting married. Maybe Ian is just saying they’ll be doing more of this togetherness stuff and more rumors of them marrying.

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  121. Dream said on April 23rd, 2011 at 1:05 pm

    @Guest2:
    trains, coupling makes sense.

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  122. Up the Coast said on April 23rd, 2011 at 1:09 pm

    The lips of an angel hinder video makes me think he is talking/thinking about JA.

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  123. liv4 said on April 23rd, 2011 at 1:11 pm

    Mick’s Kesha – I’m not sure about the intent of this but I too have read Kesha is a nickname for Karis (his oldest daughter). The interesting thing about Karis is that Mj payed no support for her until years after her birth when she suffered burns in an accident and her mother then forced the issue. He also told Karis’ mother when she was pregnant with her that he refused to publicly acknowledge this child.

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  124. elephant said on April 23rd, 2011 at 1:29 pm

    @Dream:
    I was just kidding, I do the same thing! :)

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  125. elephant said on April 23rd, 2011 at 1:30 pm

    @Geez Louise:
    Wow that’s very interesting!

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  126. elephant said on April 23rd, 2011 at 1:31 pm

    @liv4:
    talk about harsh! geez!

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  127. Lil said on April 23rd, 2011 at 2:27 pm

    Ke$ha got the same horrible body like Ange! Maybe shes their daughter?LOL

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  128. Up the Coast said on April 23rd, 2011 at 2:36 pm

    @liv4:
    That IS cold, but not surprising :( Liv look at the time stamp on your post….hmmm.

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  129. Up the Coast said on April 23rd, 2011 at 2:38 pm

    @Lil:
    She also acts like she was raised by wolves, just like Ange. She will have to be taught to act like a lady one day also.

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  130. Dream said on April 23rd, 2011 at 3:58 pm

    @elephant:
    lol i do it all the time and have gotten myself in trouble more than once. you would think by now that i would not assume.
    lol good joke tho had me going .

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  131. Mr. Jagdish Patel said on April 23rd, 2011 at 4:22 pm

    Are you niggers still here?

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  132. Stickthin said on April 23rd, 2011 at 4:39 pm

    allegedly they all have something in common – hepatitis C

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  133. Dream said on April 23rd, 2011 at 4:54 pm

    I can’t speak for anyone else but your bothering me about as much as I bother AJ when I talk about her. Normal people don’t give a damn what people they don’t know and don’t matter in there lives say or think.
    If you don’t have anything better to do you’re welcome to talk about me all you want, you’re probably giving someone else a break that needs it.

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  134. elephant said on April 23rd, 2011 at 5:34 pm

    Ian can you please delete the extremely offensive posts? Please? thank you.

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  135. inOttawa said on April 23rd, 2011 at 5:40 pm

    Love Train… it may be an oblique way to pull in the concept of “pulling a train” (look it up). I learned what that expression meant from an old American boyfriend who was part of a fraternity and attended a US university. AJ and the men from around the world.

    A piece of gossip. One of my best friends works for an international humanitarian organization. She heard a story about a meeting of one of her colleagues with the Brang about 1 year ago. There first was the major security sweep of the hotel room before they arrived, which apparently was a bit much. However, during the exchange, apparently AJ was amazing. She was informed and posing hard questions. Totally impressed the high level exec who came to meet them. BP apparently didn’t say very much. I thought this was an interesting piece of insight and I felt “good on you, AJ”.

    As I suspect we all assume, she is a complex person. Beautiful, mysterious, part good, part bad. We tend to focus on the bad an awful lot, imo, which is entertaining I agree.

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  136. Twinkletoes said on April 23rd, 2011 at 5:45 pm

    Hi all have been away again !! Too lovely Lancaster watching the Lambs being born with my girls on paps farm!
    I have just been over to FF and I love the JA Thread and I must say , I really belive she is preggies !!!! Anyone else seen this ?? Wishing you all a Happy Easter ! x

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  137. elephant said on April 23rd, 2011 at 5:46 pm

    @inOttawa:
    Thanks for the info on the comments made about AJ a while back. It’s true sometimes the negative can be focused on, however if you look in the media for her specifically, it’s quite the opposite. I think that’s why a site like this was formed, bc it’s was all sugar-coated roses and lollipops – no one dared to talk about anything else.

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  138. Dream said on April 23rd, 2011 at 5:47 pm

    I have head that expression before, never thought of it here tho. lol

    It is nice to hear that AJ is up on what she is doing. I still feel it’s more for publicity than that she really cares, but I am glad shes taking it seriously. As you said she’s a complex woman.

    I think she’s way more intelligent than she’s given credit for but I believe shes on drugs and that has a large part to play in how many view her.
    of course MOO

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  139. Dream said on April 23rd, 2011 at 5:48 pm

    yay spring babies!!!!! That must have been wonderful Twinkletoes.

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  140. elephant said on April 23rd, 2011 at 5:53 pm

    @Twinkletoes:
    Wonderful – happy easter to you as well!

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  141. meldoesn'tknowjackshit said on April 23rd, 2011 at 6:00 pm

    I did not know that they gave computers to convicts behind bars? What is this world coming to. Even behind prison walls you people are still sprouting your venom but we will get the last, when you are ordered to pay restitution to the Jps and finally this site will no longer exists.

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  142. Twinkletoes said on April 23rd, 2011 at 6:11 pm

    Wow didn’t you know we get computers ? We also get sky Tv , Playstation and a wii !! Cool !!!! and we EVEN get a dart board with AJ face on it Loool !!!!! ( Helps us pass time )

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  143. Guest said on April 23rd, 2011 at 6:18 pm

    @meldoesn’tknowjackshit:
    Twinkletoes is right and, guess what, your tax dollars pay for it. Thanks, keep the money coming.

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  144. elephant said on April 23rd, 2011 at 6:39 pm

    I have to begin some time in solidtude, so I will be out for a little bit. You all have a wonderful day/night.

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  145. liv4 said on April 23rd, 2011 at 7:09 pm

    @meldoesn’tknowjackshit:
    Between you and Saidahh you are verbally threatening posters on this site. I just want to make sure you understand the implications of that.

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  146. meldoesn'tknowjackshit said on April 23rd, 2011 at 8:05 pm

    Liv, isn’t that like pot calling the kettle black. You threathen and slander AJ on a daily basis and all I hope for is this site to be stripped clean and you link that to a threat. Well keep on crying

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  147. Guest2 said on April 23rd, 2011 at 9:22 pm

    @meldoesn’tknowjackshit:
    You’re wrong. No one here threatens or slanders AJ or anyone else. That’s not why we’re here. We comment on her behavior and that of others. Much of the time the conversations turn to subjects other than the brand as they do become boring after a while. Maybe that’s what’s bothering you. Not getting enough attention, perhaps. I find it strange that you only defend AJ. Why is that? You don’t like Brad? You know as well as we do that most of this stuff is already out there on the internet or in books written by biographers other than Ian. Angie’s own words, pictures and behavior speak volumes about her character or maybe you are too blind to see that. She’s the one who talks about sex, tatoos on her crotch, fidelity not being important, she’s the one who posed semi-nude in bondage gear, in a video doing drugs, she’s the one who committed herself to a mental hospital, she’s the one who sells pictures of her kids for obscene amounts of money, she’s the one who drags those kids around the world like gypsies with no roots. She’s the one who kissed her brother passionately on the lips at the Oscars and then told the world she was in love with him You don’t like…take it up with her. Or take it up with her father. Jon Voight is the one who made a public statement that she has mental problems and needed to get help. He should know, he’s her father.

    The truth of the matter is that you’ve come on here saying that you pray for the annihilation of the posters on this site and threatening retribution. And now you’ve resorted to posting racist hate speech under a different moniker. You (and Sadiah, Miharbi and all the other fake names you use) are the only vile, hateful person here. You are the evil that inflitrates this board, not us.

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  148. liv4 said on April 23rd, 2011 at 9:33 pm

    Guest2 hit the nail on the head. We COMMENT, you THREATEN. Big difference LEGALLY, big difference.

    And Guest2 is right on another level. You fail to see that EVERY poster here has commented they want nothing bad to happen to anyone, be it a poster, a celeb or a blogger. Posters offer opinions and that is all. On the other hand, praying for the annihilation of others and/or supporting that is BULLYING, and bullying has very specific laws.

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  149. Dream said on April 23rd, 2011 at 9:41 pm

    @elephant:
    I say leave it so any lawyer from the brange that comes here looking around will see just who it is that claims to speak for angie.

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  150. Up the Coast said on April 23rd, 2011 at 10:00 pm

    @Guest2:
    Great post!

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  151. joanne said on April 23rd, 2011 at 10:32 pm

    @Guest2:
    Well said.

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  152. Guest2 said on April 23rd, 2011 at 10:49 pm

    Hi Guys,

    I probably shouldn’t feed the troll as they say but that horrible racist comment earlier disgusted me. I guess now we know their motive and that is to shut down this site. I don’t believe they are AJ “fans” in the true sense of the word. They come on here to harrass and intimidate with the intention of scaring people off. I don’t know what Ian really knows. I would guess more than he can say. HW is kind of a small community and I’m sure a lot of people know what the deal is with them and talk about. They give these moronic interviews about fidelity and then wonder why people think they might be splitting. She looks scarecrow thin and in her last public outing with BP she looked drugged. Brad looks like he’s 60 yrs old. Is it any wonder people think they do drugs. We don’t know anything about them for sure but we can have an opinion about it. Gosh, I hope someone’s not sticking pins in voodoo dolls with our names on them.

    I have to say that I getting a little saturated with all this brangie stuff. A lot of negative energy. But I really like talking to you guys and we do go off some interesting tangents.

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  153. Guest2 said on April 23rd, 2011 at 10:56 pm

    Well, goodnight to all. I am going to finish reading my book. Has anyone read the Hunger Games? It’s a young adult book, a trilogy but a really good read. I got it for Christmas from one of my nieces and I’m on the third book. Happy Easter to all of you who celebrate it. Happy Passover too.

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  154. clueless said on April 24th, 2011 at 12:02 am

    Photos of ‘the goddess’ for her dumb worshipers
    http://i.huffpost.com/gen/187481/ANGELINA-JOLIE-STAR-MAGAZINE.jpg

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  155. Pauly P said on April 24th, 2011 at 3:50 am

    Bunch of bozos are trying to disrupt our logical discussions here with their nonsenories….I throw this out as a distraction….going back to haiti last year, didn’t anyone else think it was weird that GC invited BP and JA to his telethon but not AJ? AJ was apparently at a Vanity Fair photoshoot that day and couldn’t make it, but I call BS on that one….I don’t think she was invited.

    After all, she will travel half way around the world to go to Afghanistan to make a photo shoot for a day but she won’t go to a telethon with her boyfriend for such an important event??? And then she shows up in Haiti for her own photo op???? She has enough clout to blow off a photo shoot to support a worthy cause. She got her photo op in Hatit to show that she “cares” for the place….any photo ops there 6 months later???? NOPE. Because people weren’t as interested.

    This is when I started thinking that things aren’t as they appear. That telethon was a big deal, and she used an excuse to cover up the fact that she wasn’t welcome there, JMHO, a hunch, a guess, a feeling, an intuition, whatever else that will clearly state this is not fact but an opinion…… loonsy tunes.

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  156. joanne said on April 24th, 2011 at 8:36 am

    She probably knew she would look old and frumpy standing next to Aniston.

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  157. Dream said on April 24th, 2011 at 9:23 am

    @Pauly P:
    LOL MOO ing keeps the cows away.

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  158. jan said on April 24th, 2011 at 9:56 am

    @clueless:
    Ewww. That was disturbing and just plain nasty.

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  159. angelooney whoreley said on April 24th, 2011 at 10:55 am

    @Having fun:
    brads song

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  160. liv4 said on April 24th, 2011 at 2:01 pm

    Been thinking more about this. Kind of leaning towards they have a daughter together.

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  161. elby said on April 24th, 2011 at 2:23 pm

    @liv4:
    You think MJ and AJ have a daughter together? I thought previous clues indicated AJ had a child at a VERY young age with someone who should NEVER have been messing w/her. Think MJ came along later than a VERY young age and the NEVER seemed like someone closer to home.

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  162. Guest2 said on April 24th, 2011 at 2:37 pm

    Hi Liv, I wondered that too but do you think if she had a daughter with such a huge rock star her mother would have allowed it to be given up for adoption? Seems like that might be a child support gravy train. I’m thinking if that blind item was really about her it happened when she was younger and her mother wanted nothing to do with the child. Remember it said “very young” and “someone she should never have been sleeping with”. We’ve read she had a live-in boyfriend at age 14. And allgedly she slept with her mother’s boyfriend (an older man). It’s a crime to have sex with an underage girl. Any baby born of either union would probably be covered up. Maybe not the choice of the baby’s mother but the adults around her. If any of this is true you have to feel sorry for her because the people who should have been protecting her were causing her great harm. Again, this is just speculation as I have no idea what did or didn’t happen. I took this clue to mean there was and still is involvement of some sort with MJ and that we will see more brangie pda coming up. I think the Hinder song is about her and MJ, not brad/jen.

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  163. elby said on April 24th, 2011 at 3:26 pm

    @Guest2:
    I feel very sad for any very young woman who conceived a child with someone she should never have been sleeping with and was forced to give up a child. I think it would be FANTASTIC if that young girl grew up to be someone who is now strong enough to expose all the guilty secrets and is proud to reveal her child.

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  164. Patty Anne said on April 24th, 2011 at 3:56 pm

    I don’t think Angie had a child by Mick Jagger. If that had occured, Marcia Lynne would have considered it better than hitting the Lottery for 300 million bucks, because Marcia was head over hills infatuated with Mick herself which was why she encouraged an underaged Angie to go after a married Mick Jagger in her stead. I remember reading that her father, Jon Vought, noted that after Angie moved to NY she suddenly became a different person, the light was gone from her. He speculated something major had happened to her.@elby:

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  165. Sandy said on April 24th, 2011 at 4:24 pm

    @Patty Anne:
    …Maybe and I do mean maybe (cause I really don’t know)…Mick Jaggar may be Angie’s biological papa and the child she gave birth to as a child is Mick Jaggar’s also. Don’t kill me, but this is just a thought

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  166. Guest2 said on April 24th, 2011 at 5:00 pm

    @Sandy:
    Well, she is a beautiful woman so I doubt she could have someone so ugly as a father. And she looks like Jon Voight and so does Shiloh. I didn’t know that her father made that comment about her changing after going to NY. I wonder what happened there. There is a family photo of AJ/JH/JV that I found somewhere where she looked like the sweetest, happiest little girl. I’ll try to find it again.

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  167. Up the Coast said on April 24th, 2011 at 6:25 pm

    @Pauly P:
    I agree with you! It also looked as though she doesn’t like to share the spotlight with other celebs at a charity event, but I think it was simply that she wasn’t invited, because nobody likes her or what she’s done to Brad.

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  168. Up the Coast said on April 24th, 2011 at 6:48 pm

    @Sandy:
    That is what I was thinking…that Ange is Mick’s biological daughter and that Marcheline just wanted her to meet Mick, thinking he would SEE she was his, but then….oops! I don’t think that Ange had a baby, I think she had an abortion at a young age, but the baby could have belonged to MJ.

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  169. Up the Coast said on April 24th, 2011 at 6:50 pm

    @jan:
    Yes, I think that James Haven looks/looked just like Jon. Has anyone compared a young MJ to Ange?

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  170. Up the Coast said on April 24th, 2011 at 6:54 pm

    @joanne:
    :lol:

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  171. Tetta said on April 24th, 2011 at 7:00 pm

    @UTC

    I have. Googled Mich Jageer + photo + child. I can´t see any similarities. Both James and Angelina look alike and they both have charakteristics from Jon Voa.iarcelinght and Marcelina.

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  172. Up the Coast said on April 24th, 2011 at 7:11 pm

    @Tetta:
    Thanks Tetta ;)

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  173. Guest2 said on April 24th, 2011 at 7:16 pm

    Here’s angelina at age 16. She was a beautiful girl. She should never have messed with her face.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1056375/Pictured-Angelina-Jolie-fresh-faced-teen–tattoos-vials-blood.html

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  174. inOttawa said on April 24th, 2011 at 7:58 pm

    I know there were rumours of an affair between AJ and MJ in the 90s by an author of a book on Brangelina that I am not sure ever saw the light of day (did it?) that was supposed to be published last year. Other than that, I simply don’t get the reference to MJ here. It does not add up. I do not believe a child was conceived involving MJ, AJ or her mom. (Are we being strung along? Two+ months of clues… how many clues can there be?) At best, a reference to the alleged affair (which is not new news), and maybe an oblique reference to a mystery child (again, not new news), but I don’t think a child between those two. The timing does not work! There was a post at FF that indicated there was an abortion when she went to NY and that she elected to have it because of her health issues. It sounds plausible so with all that, I am not sure where this fits in…..

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  175. Guest2 said on April 24th, 2011 at 8:35 pm

    @inOttawa:
    Not sure either what this clue is about. There are the rumors of an involvement between AJ/MJ from when she was in his video. But now I’m wondering if there is a drug reference in there as well. The Stones song Gimme Shelter is supposedly about heroin. It’s no secret that Keith Richards was addicted to it. In the link below Jerry Hall talks about how she weaned Jagger off heroin but not off women. She refers to him as a dangerous sexual predator. She was set to release a book about her life and then suddently backed out of the deal with the publishers. Maybe while doing the music video is when AJ got involved with heroin. I found the article below kind of interesting. I wonder why Jerry Hall pulled out of the book deal. Would have been a blockbuster for sure. All of this is JMO based on stuff I read on the internet.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1315174/I-got-Mick-Jagger-quit-HEROIN-I-GIRLS—Jerry-Hall-reveals-long-awaited-autobiography.html

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  176. joanne said on April 24th, 2011 at 9:04 pm

    @Up the Coast:

    I always thought they shared the same mouth and dead stare.

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  177. Patty Anne said on April 24th, 2011 at 9:33 pm

    LOL, I’d never kill you for an idea Sandy, it’s what makes this such fun, sharing theories and clues. I have the link to a photo of Angelina in High School complete with pre-plastic surgeries face. She’s most definately a Voight. I think all the surgeries were to morph into James actually, because from early photos on James didn not favor Jon Voight while Angie did. That was the reason (according to Marcia Lynne Bertrand Voight) she put her in a white room away from the family as an infant. She hated to be reminded of Jon Voight because of their breaking up over his cheating. http://img71.imageshack.us/img71/3585/m9ad8kux0.jpg@Sandy:

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  178. elephant said on April 24th, 2011 at 10:09 pm

    Maybe the twins are his. The picture of him someone posted looks a lot like them in the eyes, them and her. Maybe she did this one last thing for her mom? Or to spite her? JMO – I don’t know.

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  179. elephant said on April 24th, 2011 at 10:11 pm

    Or maybe he was the one who was in charge of her with mkultra stuff…like a handler, but i have no idea, just throwing things out there…

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  180. tsk said on April 24th, 2011 at 10:16 pm

    You know, this is an extremely old topic, but I just have to ask, ‘what happened between them on the set of MAMS?’ I mean, I have heard the affair rumors but people on here seem to know a lot more than what is posted all over the net. Can anyone tell me? Sorry in advance for going all off topic.

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  181. elephant said on April 24th, 2011 at 10:19 pm

    @tsk:
    I would like to know too, I never heard all the details either.

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  182. elephant said on April 24th, 2011 at 11:50 pm

    @Guest2:
    I agree – it was wrong what they wrote in so many ways. I don’t come here for that junk. I really enjoy the side convos and the people.

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  183. Guest2 said on April 25th, 2011 at 7:51 am

    @joanne:
    If you compare the pic you posted of a young jagger and patty anne’s pic of a young angie you can sort of see a resemblance around the nose and eyes. But I still think her father is JV. Shiloh is the spitting image of JV. Jagger was a good looking young man. I guess that’s what a lifetime of booze, drugs and hard living does to you.

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  184. joanne said on April 25th, 2011 at 8:37 am

    @Guest2:
    He was nice looking. It didn’t take him long to look like a scraggly old man.

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  185. Forest4Trees said on April 25th, 2011 at 6:52 pm

    @Dream:

    Angelina was never with Mick Jagger.

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  186. Forest4Trees said on April 25th, 2011 at 6:53 pm

    @tsk:

    Nothing happened. There were never any rumors then or since.

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  187. Cilla S said on April 25th, 2011 at 7:40 pm

    Was “Angie” written about her?

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  188. Liz E. said on April 25th, 2011 at 9:59 pm

    @Cilla S:

    O.my.god. Is this a serious question?

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  189. Tamara hinder | Memorialtees said on December 9th, 2011 at 8:10 am

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