Amazingly in her very early photos she has her father’s looks , then as time progresses, she morph’s into a surgically transformed more refined version of her mother, Marcia Lynne Bertrand born in Illinoise and with a great grandfather who was French Canadian. So, the lies began early on. One can see when the descent into the drug abyss began around 1999/2000 judging by her extreme thinness. It’s as if we are viewing a compilation of proof of a person’s physical and mental downfall. Pity.
First of all, she is not an A-Lister, at least not yet. I’m surprised no one caught this but the last time I checked she is not Julia Roberts who makes 20 million per movie or Reese Weatherspoon who makes, if I’m not wrong, closed to 15 million. But I give her the tittle of ‘partner of a has been A-Lister BP’, or B-Plus actress, academy winner.
Secondly, I was going to say none of these looks I like but then I thought about it and wanted to give my honest opinion since I used to like Angelina. I really like the picture on the left, when she was younger because at least here she had that angelical face. The one I saw when I first met her and I thought her name fits her perfectly. She had that ‘innocence’ written all over her face. She was beautiful and everyone including me wanted to be like her. She demostrated a ’strong’ sense of self with an enviable confidence. . she radiated energy; her image was of the equally girl next door and also the image of glamour that could tell you that in the future she will be either like Rachel Welch, Jane Mansfield or Sofia Loren. …more like Sofia of them all. Here at this age you could do practically just about anything and if you were wrong with attitudes or behavior you could say something like this: ‘ I was young and stupid’. But then something happened…people changed. I changed my appereance, my attitude toward life, and Angelina did too. Besides resembling her equally beautiful mother Angelina was changing in behavior attitude toward herself and others with the company she kept. As we get older we should aim to accomplish more spiritual inspiration that will reflect our future actions hence the peace we seek in our old age, but not her. She claimed to have no faith of her own or at least claimed to not know God, buy try to exterminate hunger in the third world countries. We in a perfect sense try to take responsibility for our actions, past and future ones. We embrace the person inside ourselves. We cherish ourselves and we nourish but we don’t knowingly try at the same time to destroy ourselves. Angelina has tried to emulate her mother and sometimes her father since she kept trying for the gold statue while risking the lives of her love ones by not spending justifiable time with them. She might have more enemies than friends now IMO…but she can reverse that anytime, is in her hands. She can be the most beautiful or at least half of the beauty she once was by freeing herself of those chains of wanting to please the world and try to please only those close to her, including her inner spirit. And I said it once and I say it again, Angelina should ask for forgiveness. Is OK to ask for it, this is between her and her creator, no one else. It shouldn’t be anyone business but herself. She doesn’t have to name the person whom to deliver it to or answer to anyone. Then we will see a real smile not a fake one, from the heart. She can accomplish more in her life if she follows that inner child inside her. She will be like 34 years old going into 14 years old, if you catch my grief..Forget about your partner, his faux pas is not helping you succeed. He is like a ‘blind’ man and I mean no disrespect to the blind community. Actually a blind person has more ‘will’ than BP… They do by themselves.. But he is dragging you down, Angie. You could see that when he let the paparazzi take that picture of you two at the superbowl. When in purpose put his hand inside your shirt and touched your private upper body. And is not the lapel for sure, the hand goes beyond that, look closely, you’ll see. He shouldn’t done that. That is disrespectful!! If my hubby would do that to me in public I would have slapped him because it shows that he has no respect for me. His inconsistency and discourtesy when he visited that ‘grooming saloon’ for a trim, again without any consideration for your feelings. He knew the paparazzi will be there for sure. He knows they follow him and you wherever you are. I think he is a ‘FAUST’ to get the God statue and if I was you I would be careful. Like I say you can be A-lister, you don’t need him to be one. He was an A-Lister, but no more. Right now he has to find himself first and stop that binge drinking since he is lost. But you can’t help him, he has to help himself. I’m not saying to stay away from each other since obviously he’s the weakest one. He can’t stay away from your ‘charms’ but I’ m saying that don’t let him drag you down with him to his ‘pity’ pool party. Angelina, you are worth much more than that…or don’t you?
And to my newly friends in this website: Please forgive me, but I have to be fair with AJ and BP too. As you can see even Ian has tone down the critic. I think the website will be of much major value after all. And I am really tired of critisizing someone that is not going to do or read these comments anyway. I just hope for a positive role in my comments and reaching my fellow human beings. Peace out!!
What do you think? let me know, I might go back to my own self…ha, ha, ha.
Some time back, I figured it out that Ian is a fan of Angie.
To each his own!
Ian, I can’t look at Angie for long without recalling the evil she has done.
To me she is like those palatial homes in the movies with a fake front. It looks beautiful in the photographs but there’s nothing behind it!
Or, she’s like someone who is made beautiful on the outside with a little help from her friends; but the inside is still rotten!
Sorry but this woman and all she does disgusts me and that will never change. Every move she makes is to serve her own interests and to achieve utterly superficial things which are ultimately meaningless. She has not achieved anything significant in her life, all her acts are hollow, and she has no talent. She is not a woman to be admired in any sense. The evil acts she has committed against anyone who is a threat to her and the callous way in which she has exploited her mother, her father and some of the most vulnerable people in the world including her own children for the sake of her image make her one despicable human being. In my opinion she is beyond redemption. She needs to go away, take her face out of the public eye and allow one thing to happen in the world without seeking to be the centre of attention of it all. I don’t know who this woman thinks she is lately but she is clearly deluded. She is not in charge of disaster relief, she is not someone whose opinion on the president matters, she has not won any awards for her “artistry” for many years. She needs to go away, shut the hell up and allow the world to keep on turning without trying to shove her mug in it. This recent behaviour at the Superbowl and in Haiti is just one step too far for me. Neither of these things were about her and yet she has tried to make them so. I’m sorry but the images of Angelina at the biggest American sporting event of the year and in the world’s worst disaster zone are just totally inappropriate and out of place. She has no reason to be at either of them, what is she DOING there? It is like she will show up for the opening of an envelope if it will get her picture in the paper. First Muhammad Ali, then the Superbowl and now Haiti? She has nothing to do with ANY of them and the world’s media are suckers for lapping her crap up. She’s got to go.
My 2 cents: this is celebrity – rightly or wrongly, A-list, ex-A-list, no list… celebrity! How much of what we hear is even true? But it’s fun to talk about and here we are, talking and writing and the papers and magazine love those people because they help sell their stuff! Alot of peole are deserving of much less attention – that Jon guy in Jon and Kate – or Paris Hilton… now what have THEY done to deserve press? Respectfully to some people commenting here – although it is probably fair to criticize the person, I think using your celebrity to attract attention to world tragedies shouldn’t be criticized. 2 cents!
I have to completely agree, what after all this time was she doing in Haiti besides using it to deflect from all the bad press she has been given. If she truly was genuine in her humanitarian spirit for them, she would have been there much sooner. No , she needed it, and she wanted to be interviewed. It has gotten ridiculous, they are being made fun of to the point you would think even those around them would feel ashamed. I don’t agree with IAN that she ever puts herself in harms way, she takes her child into those areas for God’s sake. She has more security with her than our own boys do that are in harms way, no, this latest display , especially back to back , the SB to Haiti was a big FU to the the media and everyone that is dogging them on the break up.I say it is time to leave alone, ignore them completely, while they live with the misery they have created. They are both fame whores and it will not be long before they bring themselves to the fore front again. It is simply disgusting the way this has played out. Angelina was actually giggling during that sorry display at the SB during the kiss. Brad has allowed her to make a mockery of him. All for image and to screw with the paps, and all it is doing is screwing with their own image. More people are disgusted with them both today than they were a month ago. Hell even that sorry John Mayer will come out on top of his faux pas before they do from this mess. Why, because he took the heat for it.
I have a question, pick a picture of there, and try to imagine which one of those was doing the dirty with the family pet, because we were told that Jolie was the Queen of bestility in LA, and the deed did go down. So, someone please tell me why we are saluting this nasty whore? Piss, and shi*te and rubber sheets and doggies, and so the hell what if she donates 25 million or a 100 million or visits every country in the world, none of that will ever make her clean. She is filthy, and until she is willing to put herself out there and get help and turn her life around I don’t see how one can look at a picture of her and see anything else…unless of course someone wants to update us and tell us none of that is true, but there is just too much, and even without IAN’s reports, those stories have long been around. If she was going to sue anyone it should have been over the dog story when IAN discussed in a chat, or the rubber sheet story that Anna K swears by.
She did not,and that is a confirmation jmho.
Going against docs here but whatever..had to say..
@inOttawa:
Well that might be true, if this tragedy was one that happened and no one was aware of, but honestly, with the exception of those buried six feel under or cremated do you honestly think there is anyone who is not aware of the Haiti situation? What exactly did Angelina Jolie do for the situation in her short visit that Anderson Cooper has not done over the last 6 weeks? Please enlighten me?
Did she bring in supplies , Doctors, as Harrison Ford did, wait, she did do one thing, she inspired a very funny video about her a Brad, the guy sounds like him, it was hilarious, she could not name her kids. Got to give her that, we all need a good laugh in the midst of a tragedy, right.
nothing personal INOttawa, and this is not aimed at you.
@marty:
Marty I agree with you to a point, Angelina has a quality about her , or did that draws you in. I use to feel very sorry for her, and still do at times, although it may not sound that way in some of my posts, I get disgusted with some of her behavior. On the other hand I do realize she needs help and it is infuriating that those around her do not help her get it for the sake of her children.I do believe Angelina could change , if she wanted to, but she probably does not think there is anything wrong with any of the things she does. free will, free world, that is her choice, but then don’t inflict those choices onto the children. Does she, we don’t know for sure, but anyone with her dx in all likelihood does. She was beautiful at one time, 10 years ago, but she has ruined her looks with the drugs or whatever. It is quite sad really because at one time, think she probably was genuine about her work with the refugees, regardless of why she got involved. Can she recapture that, maybe, if she let’s go of the quest for fame. You have to be humble and put them first, all mothers know that, all true humanitarians know that. Every one has the right to forgiveness and redemption. It does not take long for one to screw up their life, but it takes years to redeem yourself once you do, but with honestly and a earnest and humble heart she could accomplish that. She did it before, or it appeared that she did, but we found out that was not altogether
genuine, and that facade fell away. Look at all these men that mess up, GQ did a story on them this month on how to say you are sorry and mean it. You do it quickly, you do it sincerely, you tell all the truth, you take the heat for what you did, man up ,and move on with your life. These two have never done that. They spin, they scheme, they twist, they, all in the name of their rights, “we don’t owe anyone an explanation”..well we see where that got them. They may not owe it, but time has taught us that the words “I’m sorry” go much further than writing out a check. You can not buy your way out of quick sand.
That’s what I think too, don’t the people around them see what damage they are doing to their clients with all this? First the release of the video of her mother, then the shameless SB display and now trying to take centre stage in the relief programme designed to help millions of desperately in need people like she is responsible for it? It is the most cynical, utterly outrageous display of PR madness I have ever seen in my life, even from Angelina, and that really is saying something. She must be utterly out of her mind on drugs to be going along with this because she is utterly destroying the thin veneer of respectability she fought so hard to gain. Her people are literally going for broke trying to keep their business (her) afloat and it seems like they genuinely don’t care how it turns out, it is all or nothing for them. Let’s face it, Geyer can always move on to his next victim. I doubt he genuinely cares about his client, most managers/agents/publicists don’t, they care about the money. And they are giving this product one final push to see if they can keep it afloat and if they can’t I predict they will bail on her as fast as you can say “Trevor Neilson”. She is f*cking up, big time, but then the woman is so arrogant she thinks she can get away with murder, and after all she has done before. Yep, she thinks the world is stupid and that she can play us all for morons, but unfortunately for her people don’t tend to make the same mistake twice. The only way out of this for her would be to back away, get away from the spotlight for a good year and allow the announcement of the split to go ahead without any comment or pre-arranged photo opp from her. Instead she is running around like an absolute lunatic trying to act like everything is fine and to keep her brand alive. It is the biggest trainwreck the celebrity world has ever seen I think and she is going to plummet because of this. And I wonder whether Ian knows this and is just trying to keep the interest alive for the sake of his book and that of his friend Andrew Morton? No-one’s going to want to read an unauthorised bio of a washed-up has-been with a gang of troubled and increasingly less photogenic chidlren who the world has long since stopped caring about. Just a guess and just my opinion.
Hm, I personally meet a lot more people in the real world who are a thousand times more deserving of my sympathy than Angelina is. There are a lot of people in this world who have genuinely had such a crappy life that I have no idea how they have even made it through to adulthood. People who have been neglected by their parents, abused, had children who have been born with serious illnesses and syndromes which will make the rest of their lives unbelievably hard, have no education to speak of or career prospects and are all in all seriously damaged individuals. I’m not entirely sure why I’m supposed to feel sorry for Angelina other than because she is a drug-addled f*ck-up. I mean, did she really have that bad a childhood? I don’t see it. And what is so bad about becoming a pampered, spoilt, idiotic movie star? Seems like quite a privileged life to me. I personally think she has created this idea that she is some sort of mental case victim who was abandoned by her father to make herself look tragic and interesting and to make people sympathise with her. I think she has created that image of herself to make her seem like genuinely troubled and tragic stars such as Princess Diana and Marilyn Monroe. I think it is a fabrication. So no, I don’t agree with this idea that we should feel sorry for “poor Angie” in any way, I think she is doing a very good job of feeling sorry for herself already, don’t think she needs our help at all. And while she’s acting all tragic and victim-like she’s taking a lot of sympathy and attention away from some much more deserving individuals. No time for her at all, sorry.
Keane Cyber Queen Supremesaid on February 13th, 2010 at 5:32 pm
And can I just ask what is with the very cutting and caustic “let’s all throw a pity party for this voluptuous mattress” comment directed at the comparatively inoffensive Scarlett Johansson because she committed the crime of losing money on her house, while the shameless Ms Jolie is referred to as “A-list Angie” and we’re asked to flick through a selection of her looks to decide which one she looks cutest in? I mean, what is up with that? Surely by now Ian you must know that no-one here likes any of her looks because we DO NOT LIKE HER. Why would we invest any time in thinking about or rating her various hairstyles when we think she is a fundamentally bad human being? Seriously Ian, there is so much more to say on this subject than this!
@Keane Cyber Queen Supreme:
ITA but if I were to comment at all it would be to say the first picture of Angie looks absolutely satanic, her eyes appear to be red, its scary looking.
Ok so good, so why don’t we talk about that phony ass interview on CNN where Ms Holie acted like she was the first reporter on the scene of the disaster in Haiti breaking the news to the world and that she was playing a crucial part in the relief effort, because that really was some unbelievable shit! I love how she acted like she was so superior to the rest of the world because we are all so fickle over charity and suffer from compassion-fatigue whereas she is always on the case and is never once distratced from her mission! Oh and I also loved the fact that she didn’t seem to know two shits about what she was talking about! When that idiot interviewer asked her what illnesses were the main concern of the relief organisations she was like “uh, erm, all of them I think, I hear TB is popular and cholera is big these days, oh and yes amputees, silly me, how could I forget, I was just talking to one of those!”. It was ludicrous. There was no point to her being there, she didn’t know any more about it than we all do and she is achieving absolutely nothing. That interview was bought in my view, there is no other explanation for why she would have been asked to do it otherwise, no way. I think she slipped someone a few quid for it. JMO
There is something about Angelina Jolie that bothers me- i cannot name what it is, i only know that I do not like her. Most of all I cannot understand America’s fascination with her (or any other celebrities).
(btw, his “relationship” w/ Kristen Stewart is a complete pr stunt a la Zac Efron and Vanessa Hudgens [who I'm surprised are still together after their respective HSM films])
@Keane Cyber Queen Supreme:
Yes absolutely Keane!! And, lets not forget the little fact that she has been sleeping with Bill Clinton (there is no doubt in my mind that he is the politician Ian has been alluding to) she waited to go to Haiti until he was there. I wondered why BP didn’t go with her, this would have been the icing on the Superbowl cake for them to be seen in Haiti together, Hilary wasn’t there either. Then, there is the fact that Bill Clinton is the UN Special Envoy to Haiti, he has to be the one who had her appointed to the UN, they just happened to be there at the same time, and then she spouts all Clintons initiatives in the interview as if they were her very own, and then…drum roll…..Clinton suffers a heart attack in Haiti…..would an overdose of viagra in order to keep up with the HO in bed cause a heart attack? Hell Yes!! None of that is a coincidence IMO.
@Keane Cyber Queen Supreme:
much more to say indeed, Keane and thank you. reading all your materials brought me back to reality and I realized why am I really here for. …AJ disgusts me…no question about that. I felt like someone emptied a bucket of frozen water down my back and my head. ..but I have to come to my senses. These couple really needs help..hopefully someone will rely this messages and I pray that they seek the help they need. The future of their children depends on that.
@Keane Cyber Queen Supreme:
I agree with everything you’ve posted here. She makes me sick. I”d just like to point out something::
She skips the celebrity telethon, waits a sufficient amount of time until other celebrities have made their donations and the telethon publicity has died down, THEN she makes me master move of going to Haiti – of course she looks like the Saint who will actually go in and help people and couldn’t be bothered by a normal celebrity telethon….she is so much more superior….
And can someone please explain to me why this woman, who constantly brags about her charity work and pilots license actually put that to good use and fly supplies down to Haiti like John Travolta and Harrison Ford? There is no explanation. For someone who makes such of an image off of those two bits of information if she really truly cared I think she would have been doing something much more significant to help. Instead she waits the required amount of time to get all the attention for herself and stands in for the “I care so much” photos with injured children and she’s back in LA before you even know what happened.
I completely took this as a joke. Like, he’s saying “Look at all the plastic surgery she’s had! No wonder everyone considers her to be beautiful, she’s put together the perfect face.” Why else would he put 3 pictures side-by-side that hardly give any indication that they are of the same person. If I had no idea who she was, and if he hadn’t written any caption, I would have just wondered why he posted pictures of three random women.
@Lizzy:
Christine sounded as stupid in interviewing her as Jolie did answering lol, “I went because I was curious” blah blah, blah. I watched another special on CNN about this woman who took a group of young under privileged black students , underachievers, etc, to Africa. They asked her why, why not just write a check. She said, well, I definitely need the check, to writing the check is important, but the check can not replace one on one with a child, looking into their eyes, mentoring them, encouraging, etc. That is paraphrased.
I thought, Angelina could learn from her, about mentoring her own children, and other kids, what she thinks she is accomplishing going to Haiti is beyond many. It almost seems like a joint venture between her and others, she lets them use her for the publicity it brings them, (I don’t mean Haiti) and she uses them for the good PR it brings her. They just all use each other. Total fluff. Waste of UN resources.
I know many stopped their subscription with People because of these two, lol, if CNN keeps this up, hmm, Murdoch will have nothing to worry about.
@Lauren:
NOW Magazine is pro Jolie, and considering the capPhotos – Angelina Jolie – from sultry teenager to sexy Hollywood star – AMAZING PICStion reads, ”
I am going to guess that IAN posted this for controversy , because he knows none of us think she is beautiful and that none of us have a high opinion of her, that was made pretty clear when Erin did the Megan vs Angie story awhile back and got ripped to shreds.
just a guess though, can’t imagine why else he posted it, unless it is research.
@Tamara:
Okay, I’ve been told that this BC isn’t anywhere near the truth so I guess that blows my theory all to hell! Sorry folks! LOL I’ve decided Im not cut out for this game………
@Tamara:
Do you mean Bill Clinton, well none of us really know, but considering what we do know I would not think that to be likely, however, hey, if he offered her a cigar that could give him some heart problems too lol
I just kind of doubt that went down at this time, after Brads recent dealings with him, her staying away from him, him turning Jolie down for the help she wanted for the position and the adoptions etc…just a guess. I have to give BC a little credit for some decency I think he has reaped some benefits from what he has been through and grown some heartstrings attached to a conscience. lol jmho though.
keane cyber queen supremesaid on February 14th, 2010 at 7:31 am
@ Lizzy – absolutely the timing of the thing was completely obvious and highly predictable. It is clear she is feeling threatened by the sudden influx of celebs doing charity work and she is trying to separate herself from them (as she did with Madonna and her adoptions). She deliberately did not join in with the telethon – even though her supposed husband did – because it was about a load of celebs sitting down together, forgetting their celebrity and BEING HUMBLE, which would be complete anathema to her. Instead she got the CEO of one of her pet charities, SOS villages, to release an unbelievably sycophantic and completely inappropriate statement to the world that “SOS villages are there before, during and after the cameras stop rolling. So is Angelina Jolie.” This statement is simply breathtaking to me in it’s repulsiveness. How anyone could be trying to promote themselves at a time of international crisis like this is beyond me. She is trying to separate herself from all the other celebs and hold on to her shakily occupied PR ground, and it is disgusting. So of course she waits for the telethon to be over, waits for the attention on GC to die down a bit, then she makes her move and acts like she is the only celebrity to do anything at all! No wonder this woman is disliked in HW – well probably more like hated these days! And then she commissions an interview with CNN in which the kiss-ass interviewer (who sounded as thick as a plank) kindly pointed out she was “one of the first” celebs to donate to Haiti. Well, if you can’t be the only one best be the first hey Angie? Then she tours the DR and Haiti for a bit so the camera can get some good shots of her to insert into the interview. If you look at the clip where she’s kneeling by the bed with the child who had had his leg amputated – conveniently arranged so the cameraman could get her face into the shot obviously – you will see her eyes flicking away from the child to look at the cameraman to make sure he is getting the shot he wants, it is completely obvious! This is a PR enterprise for Jolie, nothing more and nothing less, and it is disgraceful.
I lived in San Francisco when Clinton was President. I have two anecdotes about his visit.
1) President Clinton held up plane travel for forty five minutes, because he was getting a haircut. (This was reported in the SF newspaper(s) at the time.)
2) A good acquaintance, who happened to be gay, told me that he was in the right place to see Clinton, without planning it to happen.
He said as Clinton passed his way, Clinton stared at him; and it wasn’t a “man-to-man” look, he said.
I’m just trying to describe a picture of a married prez, staring at my native american, slightly-built friend.
And still to this day you haven`t figured out the obvious Keane! Jolie is a Goodwill ambassador for the UNHCR and the trips she makes are in ACCORDANCE and in AGREEMENT with that organisation!
Call it self promotion all you want it suits the goals of the UNHCR otherwise she wouldn`t be allowed to make those trips in their name! And no president would waste a single secoond on YOU Keane just to use an example were you stand and were she stands! Whatever she learns form the doctors in Haiti or the children there she will report back to the UNHCR. She draws both further attention to certain problems through her superstar status that garantees her interview time with news channels such as CNN while also reaching the mainstream through her celebrity status.
Anyway there are 100 easier ways to get attention and striping naked on a magazine covered only by y a tie is just one of them.
Mia that was hilarious! A president wouldn’t waste a single second on me would he? That has to be one of your most intelligent comments so far because I’m afraid I have met Bill Clinton (as have several of my friends) and he did waste more than a second on us I’m afraid to say! FYI I was at college at the same time as Chelsea and he came to visit and did some stuff for a charity we were supporting with our college ball. Nice guy. One of my friends works for the Clinton Initiative in Hong Kong now in fact. So sorry to rain on your parade Mia, but I have met a president before, and he did waste more than a second on me. And I didn’t have to give him a blow-job either (unlike poor Angie!).
So tell me Mia, have you managed to “figure out the obvious” yet? (i.e that you are a complete tit)? And that really is the nicest word I could think of which starts and ends with a t to call you today!
@lory:
hhhhaaaa .It is true that there are 100 easier ways to get attention naked on a magazine covered only by y a tie is just one of them. but your bitch can’t do it .Who want to see a naked skeleton on a cover of magazine .hhhaa she knows people will throw up if they saw her without clothes and makeup .
P.S. Mia, Haiti is one of those causes that really does not need the help of Angelina Jolie to shine a spotlight on it right now. There has been blanket coverage of it on the news since the disaster happened and every celebrity in HW and the music industry has rallied round to sbow it’s support. Maybe in 6 months time when the world may have been distracted by other causes this may have been a justifiable argument, but not a week or two after that major celeb-packed telethon led by George Clooney! The way she was talking like people had forgotten all about it in that ridiculous interview with the idiotic Christine Amanpour was laughably offensive. How dare she suggest that we have forgotten all about it already and we need dilligent and superior human beings in the worlds of celebrity and the media such as herself and Christine to remind us of it! I think that little interview did her more harm than good for sure.
And by the way Mia, if the UN is waiting on the advice of a HW actress on how to deal with a major disaster zone a whole month after the disaster has occurred we are all in serious trouble. I’m not sure what crazy little world you live in Mia, but in my world, the safeguarding of millions of displaced, homeless, highly vulnerable people and the rebuilding of an entire city is not orchestrated by the star of action flicks such as Tomb Raider and Mr and Mrs Smith! Dear God help us if it was. But the picture you paint is a funny one though. Can just imagine all those hard-working, earnest UN workers sitting patiently in their offices waiting for Ms Jolie to do a tour of the disaster zone and report back on “what needs to be done”. I bet they are all so grateful to her for going, now – one whole month down the line – the relief programme can finally start! You are priceless Mia.
Ah poor Keane seems like any day is wasted in your eyes were you cannot act like a total a.ss and be as cynical and offensive as posssible!
By the way were did I mentioned that the UNHCR DEPENDS on Jolie`s opinion alone? She is just one possible way for them of drawing attention to different causes and getting direct expericene reports from the people in crisis zones. If you are not familiar with the role of a Goodwill ambassaador for the UNHCR then why don`t you inform yourself by going to the UNHCR website instead of babbling nonsense?
By the way when mentioning a meeting with presidents I was NOT talking about your college education. Also it is nice of Clinton to not have ignored his daughter`s fellow students.
Pitt, Jolie split! No, they didn’t … wait … nope
The tabloids are obsessed with demise of star couple and return of Aniston
By Courtney Hazlett
msnbc.com
updated 6:41 p.m. ET, Mon., Feb. 15, 2010
Brad Pitt and Jennifer Aniston have been apart for five years; Brad Pitt and Angelina Jolie have been together for nearly as long. Judging from recent photos of Jolie and Pitt at the Super Bowl in Miami and Aniston celebrating her 41st birthday in Mexico, they’re all getting on just fine.
So why the constant coverage on so many covers of celebrity weeklies, claiming illicit trysts, imminent splits and secret texts?
Since 2009, Jolie, Pitt and Aniston have appeared on the cover in some iteration of 23 issues of In Touch Weekly, 13 issues of Life & Style, two issues of Us Weekly and two issues of People magazine. While some of this coverage has been of the positive ilk, most has not.
The explanation for the exposure ad nauseam is fairly simple. If magazines featuring Jolie, Pitt and to some extent, Aniston, didn’t sell, they wouldn’t be on the newsstand. But the fact is, no matter how outlandish some of the claims may seem, people want to read about these three, and they pay to do so.
“Even the more reputable magazines have started to take the Brad and Angelina fighting stories further and further as they know that’s what works,” said a rep for one of the magazines.
Everyone is happy
But depending on whom you listen to, you probably shouldn’t believe everything you read. For starters, sources in both the Aniston and Jolie-Pitt camps insist that all parties are happy.
“Jen got over Brad a long time ago,” said a source who has known Aniston since the actress and Pitt were married. “She doesn’t wake up thinking she’s made some huge mistake, she doesn’t worry about running into him at events, she has her own life and it’s a great one.”
“Brad and Angie are just fine. Most of this doesn’t even phase them,” said a source close to the couple. “It’s not like they’re out scanning newsstands. They’ve got better things to do.”
That said, the magazines use copious amounts of ink speculating on new romances, especially in the case of Aniston. If she’s not secretly texting Pitt, is she dating Gerard Butler? Well they did do a movie together and he showed up in Mexico to celebrate her 41st birthday … or maybe they’re just friends.
These celebrities do take their dating lives seriously since they will be so publicly documented. Even Aniston’s ex John Mayer, who can posses a frightening lack of self-awareness, was made aware of this fact. He told Playboy, “I had a conversation about fame with Jen before we really stepped out in public. She said, ‘Do you understand what this entails?’ Two weeks later I had people outside my house. … I knew I’d have to move to a home that had a gate.”
The Jolie-Pitts, in many ways, do live behind a gate. Their house in Los Angeles is exceedingly private. In public, they go to great lengths to blend in, often traveling by cab instead of the standard-issue black SUV.
More eyes on celebs
So if there’s little visual proof to be had of strife, where do the stories come from? There are two schools of thought. One is that the business has become a big game of telephone. There’s no longer one spy per magazine on every A-list couple — there’s an entire army of tipsters that come by way of paparazzi, tweeters and party crashers. These tipsters might make one innocuous observation that, once spread along the grapevine, is entirely blown out of proportion. An expression that might just fall under the category of “tired” or “momentarily not engaged in anything exciting,” becomes something like, “Angelina is bored with Brad!”
The other way of thinking on the issue is much simpler. “They just make up stuff to sell these issues,” said one person with close ties to the tabloid magazine business.
When a magazine spends half the year contending you’ve split, why not fight back? For the most part, the constant chatter is just that, and it’s not really fazing anyone. Where the game changes and you get to a breaking point like Brangelina is when the rumors become destructive.
Reached the breaking point
It was confirmed Feb. 8 that Pitt and Jolie had begun legal proceedings against the News of the World, a Sunday tabloid and Britain’s highest selling newspaper.
An attorney for the couple said the newspaper had made “false and intrusive allegations” when it reported Jan. 24 that Pitt and Jolie had agreed to separate, to divide assets worth $320 million and had made arrangements regarding the custody of their six children.
Once you cross a line where you’re hurting the family, and the rumors are no longer just speculation about two adults who are in a committed relationship, that’s when a big A-lister like Brad and Angie will take action,” said one publicist.
In the case of the News of the World report, it was the straw that broke Brangelina’s back, because it’s what set off a new round of speculation that even staid news outlets took seriously and reported. It’s one thing when another tabloid alleges an affair with a dialect coach.
But there is another way to look at the ceaseless attention, at least when it is mostly of the innocuous variety. Constantly being the subject of a headline or the face on a magazine cover goes a long way in maintaining relevance.
As they say, all press is good press.
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IN OCTOBER 2007, at the unpoliced border between truth and invention where most weekly celebrity magazines have their headquarters, a rumour began to take hold: Brad Pitt and Angelina Jolie were splitting up. “The romance is over,” declared the US weekly In Touch, though its cover showed the world’s most famous couple looking generally content. “Jen blamed for wrecking marriage,” Britain’s Grazia explained a few weeks later, illustrating the story with a paparazzi shot of Pitt’s ex-wife, Jennifer Aniston, wearing an irritated expression.
By then, though, In Touch already had a new scoop — “A wedding to keep Brad!” — and by the spring of 2008, things were looking official: “Yes, they’re getting married! The emotional moment Angelina knew she had to marry Brad.” (A special edition of In Touch soon followed: “Brad and Angelina: the wedding of the century.”)
Curiously, the happy news never made the cover of the US edition of OK!, which focused instead on “the wedding of the year” — a “backyard ceremony” between Aniston and the singer John Mayer. Within months, the Aniston-Mayer union had flowered into another OK! exclusive that seemed to put to rest, at last, the long-running drama of the then 39-year-old Aniston’s hunger for motherhood. “Baby time for Jen,” the magazine announced. In the Jolie-Pitt household, by contrast, things were no longer rosy: in fact, the relationship was over. “Brad walks away,” revealed In Touch.
Of course, from a traditional perspective on the nature of reality, there were problems with these stories. Brad Pitt and Angelina Jolie had not separated, and did not get married. Jennifer Aniston and John Mayer did not get married either. As far as can be ascertained, Aniston is not pregnant.
“These weeklies no longer have any interest in actual reporting,” Aniston’s publicist, Stephen Huvane, told me via email. Richard Spencer, the editor-in-chief of In Touch, insists that all his stories are double-sourced. But maybe these disagreements over journalistic ethics miss the point. The weeklies are their own world, with their own rules. Their priority is to keep the rollercoaster of a star’s life — romance, betrayal, marriage, separation, reunion — moving as quickly as possible. Real facts play a role, but not always a leading one. “A tabloid version of a fact isn’t exactly a lie,” is how one editor at a prominent celebrity weekly puts it. “But it isn’t the truth. You know what I mean?”
And nowhere does the roller-coaster lurch more rapidly than in the narrative of the Aniston/Pitt/Jolie love triangle, now entering its sixth year — an astonishingly long time in the fast-turnover world of the weeklies. Even the verifiable facts about the three, the ones we can all agree on, seem too good to be true. A personable, blonde, all-American girl next door, cherished for her role in Friends, marries the leading heart-throb of his generation, who leaves her for a mercurial, almost freakishly beautiful star.
He adopts her two children, they adopt one more, and have three of their own, including a pair of predictably perfect twins. Their expanding family — effortlessly combined with their humanitarian work — stands in perpetual affront to the all-American blonde, who makes no secret of her desire to have children, but instead bounces from one liaison to another, happiness always just out of reach.
But the verifiable facts will only take you so far. Fuelled by panic over falling magazine circulations, the challenges posed by blogs and a desensitised readership hungry for authentic emotion, the storyline of Brad, Angelina and Jennifer has achieved escape velocity. It seems, somehow, to exist independently of its real-life protagonists, even as it draws on the facts of their lives. And its inner workings — the web of relationships between stars, publicists, editors, paparazzi, “insider” sources and bloggers — show the machinery of modern fame operating at its most combative, absurd and intense.
The frenetic state of today’s celebrity news industry stems from one inescapable fact: the lives of real people — even people as volatile and wealthy as A-list movie stars — simply don’t unfold fast enough to meet the appetite for information about them. Weekly magazines need weekly scoops, and preferably scoops different enough to distinguish them from their rivals. Sales of celebrity magazines are plummeting but the decline seems only to have increased the desperation for exclusives.
OUTSIDE the traditional markets, meanwhile, OK! India or OK! Middle East (”Dubai’s premier celebrity magazine”) may be hunting for their own angle. Thousands of blogs crave multiple daily updates, and the biggest — TMZ.com, PerezHilton.com — can afford to pay for paparazzi pictures. And yet one person can only adopt so many Cambodian children in a given year.
“You build the story around an emotion,” says a celebrity weekly editor, who spoke on condition of anonymity. “What’s happening with poor Jen this week? Well, John Mayer’s seeing someone else, and for a woman of her age, that must be awful … So you construct a narrative of what a woman her age may be feeling.”
Stories may start with nothing more than a set of photographs: Aniston looking happy, or sad or happy one moment and sad the next, since if you take multiple shots of anyone, with a fast shutter speed, you can capture a range of expressions. “The question is: how can we construct a story around a set of emotions that our readers are going to relate to? It can come from a genuine tip, or a photo. Or it can come out of our arse.”
Despite this freewheeling approach to the facts, the resulting stories stick to a narrow range. Aniston must emerge with hope, the editor says: despondency must be short-lived, because it’s depressing and, just as importantly, dull. (It would be just as dull were Aniston to find lasting peace with being single or childless. Stable couples are boring, too, however great their Hollywood clout: Kate Winslet doesn’t sell magazines, and neither do Reese Witherspoon and Jake Gyllenhaal.)
There are only really seven Brad/Jen/Angelina stories, endlessly recycled: Brad and Angelina in love; Brad and Angelina obtaining more children; Brad secretly meeting or texting Jen; Angelina’s fury at Brad for meeting or texting Jen; Angelina looking dangerously thin (”scary skinny”); Jen in love; Jen alone again.
Intuitively, you’d think the stars must ultimately welcome such coverage: surely even the pitiable image of Poor Jen is valuable exposure for an actor whose recent movies haven’t been blockbusters? But while undoubtedly true lower down the food chain, at the highest level of the celebrity ecosystem, if Pitt, Aniston and Jolie do benefit they don’t acknowledge it.
When I put the matter to Huvane, who represents Aniston, Gwyneth Paltrow, Demi Moore, Meg Ryan, Julianne Moore and Kirsten Dunst, he declined to be interviewed, but then sent several lengthy emails. “I don’t think lies and complete fabrications serve any positive result,” he wrote. “We were doing just fine before the weeklies even existed … All they do is distort and damage the dignity of the private lives of actors … I have never represented a client who enjoyed being followed by paparazzi or having fabricated stories about their lives in those magazines.”
Huvane is notorious for refusing to dignify stories in the weeklies with a response; Aniston confines her interviews to more respectful monthlies, and has worn the same outfit for days, to reduce the market value of paparazzi shots. Huvane is scornful of the notion that this total non-co-operation only lets the rumour mill run wild.
“If you co-operate with one of the magazines, their competitors become vengeful and attack clients,” he emailed. “There is no upside to working with them … Their tactic is to make up stories that are so damaging, in the hope that we would engage in a dialogue that gives them access to the talent.”
Which is not to say that the stars don’t fan the flames by discussing their private relationships in the interviews they do give: Aniston famously told Vogue she thought Jolie’s public comments about falling in love with Pitt, on the set of Mr & Mrs Smith, had been “totally uncool”. At one recent film awards ceremony, Aniston even mined the love-triangle story for laughs, telling the audience that the titles of her movies (The Good Girl, Derailed, The Breakup) mirrored her life: “If anyone has a movie called Everlasting Love with an Adult Stable Man, that would be great!”
AMID this environment of low-level war between publicists and magazines, Jolie cuts an exceptional figure. The 34-year-old employs no publicist, and for years at a time has had no agent. She arranges press and TV appearances herself, using a team of assistants, and last year, according to The New York Times, personally orchestrated the bidding war for the first pictures of her twins, Knox Leon and Vivienne Marcheline. The sale of rights, which went to People magazine in the US and Hello! in the rest of the world, raised $US14million for the Pitt-Jolie Foundation, breaking all records for baby photos. The agreement, The New York Times reported, specified that the winning magazines were “obliged to offer coverage that would not reflect negatively on (Jolie) or her family”. In a statement, People denied making such a deal, but has been unsparingly positive in its coverage.
In a manner reminiscent of Princess Diana, Jolie has openly exploited the appetite for pictures to highlight her humanitarian work, which involves significant Washington lobbying efforts as well as the usual foreign trips. It’s not clear whether her motives are entirely philanthropic: the focus on refugee issues may also serve to displace unwanted coverage, such as the potentially damaging portrayal of Jolie as a marriage-wrecker, which distressed her. But her approach shows how a strategically minded star can still wrest power from the ravening media.
FRANCOIS Navarre came to Los Angeles from France to cover hard news: as a photojournalist for Le Monde, he chronicled the race riots on America’s west coast in the early 1990s. “I thought gossip news was not serious at all,” he says. But he proved unable to resist. Navarre founded X17, now one of the biggest paparazzi agencies, employing about 60 photographers. When a newly bald Britney Spears attacked and damaged a sports utility vehicle with an umbrella in February 2007, it was an X17 photographer’s vehicle that she targeted.
We’re accustomed, with good reason, to thinking of the paparazzi as the lowest of the low, unworthy of being called journalists. But the irony of celebrity media is that the pictures sold by X17 and others are the only part that is solidly, indisputably real. How those pictures are interpreted by magazine writers, on the other hand, is anyone’s guess. “Today we had this exact thing,” Navarre says. “Hugh Grant, in New York, leaving a restaurant. In one picture he looks really upset, and in another, he’s smiling. I’m sure we’ll see ‘look how angry he is, he’s a loser,’ and also, ‘look, how happy and charming!’ For Angelina, too — they totally take it picture by picture, to illustrate different angles.”
Pure fabrication by magazines is rare, Navarre says. “Coming from hard news, we had this idea that in gossip, everything’s fake. But now I’m on the gossip side, I’m surprised by how most of the time it’s not. You’ll have a little bit of news — a hint. I thought the fight between Angelina and Aniston would be totally fake, but it’s not. Ninety per cent of the time, it comes from something true.” Besides, he says, sounding briefly like a French philosopher, “There is this idea that there is only one truth, and that you have to stick to it. But maybe not.”
The blogosphere has greatly exacerbated this “what-is-truth-anyway?” approach. At sites such as Gawker and Defamer, Hollywood gossip is breathlessly consumed, but also marinaded in a rich sauce of cynicism. Readers are happy to engage with the narrative, and even buy ironic Team Aniston and Team Jolie T-shirts, without assuming any particular story to be true. The same is surely true of many readers of the weeklies. But the blogs, unlike the magazines, can admit it.
Richard Spencer at In Touch is adamant that quotations attributed to “an insider” in his magazine always come from “someone very close to the celebrity, or someone the celebrity employs — anyone from a bodyguard to a nanny to a friend to a hairstylist”, and that they’re never paid. But he’s happy to acknowledge that truth can be kaleidoscopic. “Different friends tell different people different things,” he says when I point out blatant contradictions between his magazine and others. “It’s not a question of anyone being wrong. If you were having divorce trouble, one friend could say, ‘Oh, they’re solid, nothing to worry about.’ Another could say, ‘You didn’t see the fight I saw last night. She was crying in the bathroom.’ ”
As for the Brangelina wedding that never happened, Spencer’s argument runs as follows. The weeklies report the current state of rumours. A wedding was rumoured, so it was truthful to report that. “We’re not the type of magazine to just wait until it’s confirmed,” he says. “People closely involved were talking about it. Pretend you had a sister in the same situation. Do you only want to know when your sister has got married? Or do you want me to tell you I had dinner with her last night, and she told me she thinks she might get married this summer? You can’t just sit back and say ‘when it happens, we’ll report it with everyone else’.”
“Angelina’s birthday ends in tears,” reports the current edition of In Touch. “A friend” explains that “too much togetherness has taken its toll”. The magazine adds: “While Brad did go to a lot of trouble for Angelina’s 34th — presenting her with a specially commissioned painting of their family, as well as lingerie from Angelina’s favourite store, Agent Provocateur — it wasn’t long before the troubled couple erupted in a fight over Brad’s ex-wife … ‘Things were going fine, and then Angie started accusing Brad of meeting Jen in LA,’ says an associate.”
When you spend too much time poring over celebrity magazines, and interviewing their employees, odd things start to happen to your brain. You wonder at whether the magazines’ hunger for new storylines somehow exert an influence on reality itself? According to the laws of some strange physics, unstudied by scientists, might the narrative necessity of a Brangelina divorce lead to one actually happening, in real life?
Well, not for now, according to last week’s People, which unsurprisingly offers an entirely different take from In Touch. Angelina’s birthday celebrations went flawlessly and happened not at the couple’s Long Island mansion but on the set of Jolie’s latest film, Salt. (In Touch agrees that Pitt visited the set of Salt, but quotes a “pal” who says “they’re just going through the motions for appearance’s sake”.)
For Mother’s Day, “Brad gave Angelina inscribed jewellery,” People adds. A “friend” provides the article’s closing quote: “They are very, very happy.”
The thing about Angelina is that if you look closely at her when she does interviews there is an inherant
nasitieness a kind of cold soulessness about her,I think her looks are deceptive because they lull people into
a false sense of security with her.I definately think her & Brad were doomed from the start,she is and always has been a lesbian(take a look at the motorbike girl Jenny something & tell me if a girl who was even slightly straight could be attracted to her.)Also read her past interviews & watch her in the begining of the bone collector & other movies(I dont mean to be calling out gay people but some things do show)
Angelinas looks make people want to believe good things about her.The truth is not pretty at all!
Oh yeah I just looked at the different looks & they show me that without the nose reshaping Angelina
would not look so good,she had a bigger nose that matched her lips ,she’s just another hollywood fake
her kids that look like her will mysteriously have larger noses…
Also I think she may take after her formerly estranged father,Jon Voight has always given me the creeps its like something is just not quite what it seems there,he ’s like a man with secrets…Angelina & James get that freaky DNA from somewhere.
Ian said before that she reads this site ….I hope so…If you are reading this ,your fall from grace is rapidly
approaching but hey just think of all the poor children & people you can still help.
@cassie:
Since he’s one of my all-time favorite actors, I’d buy a good bio of him. But who would tell the truth about him?
He once campaigned for Democratic presidential candidates. Now, he’s a sometimes lunatic right-winger!
I did see him once. He was supposed to give a speech. He spoke slowly, softly, and there were quite a few extra long pauses in his presentation. Nothing exciting, there.
@alif:
I just don’t know what it is,but remeber how he publicly called her mentally unstable,maybe he feared what what she would do or say,the Oscar thing with her brother & the interviews must have been very embarrasing
for a seemingly conservative guy,who knows…
Someone mention Reese Witherspoon making 15 million $
Whats with that ,does she have fans?
Little miss A type films
Personally I can’t believe that such a brittle prissy girl was born this century. obnoxious.
but then again I might be alone on this.
keane cyber queen supremesaid on February 16th, 2010 at 8:07 am
@ Mia – ha ha Mia, I wondered how you would come back at me at that and I was not disappointed! Sweetheart it’s ok, I know how stupid you felt there, saying things that were so patently false and getting called out on it. Seems like you went for the default position of “Keane is a meanie” and I am such a good human being – ha ha! Have you had a sudden case of amnesia too Mia? Did you forget how your post contained the charming insult of “a president wouldn’t waste a second on YOU Keane”, with capitals for childish emphasis of course?! Oh and sorry but I did not quite understand what the relevance was of you saying “when I was referring to presidents I did not meam your college education”? What you said was a president would not waste a single second on me, and I said utter rubbish! Then you said I only met him because I knew Chelsea? I have never met her in my life! The circumstances of me meeting him I have already explained and they had absolutely NOTHING to do with her? But seeing as you think you’re so superior to me Mia, tell me: when did you last meet Bill Clinton and what was the reason for your meeting him? Were you advising him on disaster relief too?
Oh and as for the “Angelina Jolie as Ambassador to the UN” argument, um well as we all know, Angelina is just one of hundreds of them, including Miley Cyrus and obscure British TV presenters such as Magenta de Vine! It’s such an honour! Um and Mia did it ever occur to you that after the greatest natural disaster in recent times, the UN would more than likely already be in Haiti? Probably some considerable time before Ms Jolie showed up in fact! Do you honestly think they need a HW actress to do a quick tour round and tell them what she saw? Mia do you understand how stupid you look with that statement? The UN were more than aware of what Jolie was seeing before she got there because they more than likely organised it, including her whistle-stop tour! Are you honestly that naïve and foolish to think Jolie was there on a fact-finding mission to report back to a serious organisation like the UN? She went there to get some good publicity following all the very damaging stuff that’s been written about her in the press. Her “UN goodwill ambassador” gig is a way of trying to whitewash her image, which is why she did that as opposed to flashing her flesh. Not everyone in HW needs to whitewash their image like Jolie does so they don’t need to exploit humanitarian work to this end. So yes, Jen Aniston can just stick to the usual PR schtick of doing sexy magazine covers just like Jolie (remember all those covers where jolie has her breasts out: vanity fair, W mag breastfeeding etc?). She doesn’t have to work so hard to convince the world she is not a nasty bit of work like Jolie!
Yuck, all pics of Angelina gross me out, and seeing her self serving visit to Haiti especially repels me, trust, she is neither wanted nor needed in that devastated country, and the only reason she visited was to shore up all the “angie believers” and how can any of you think she is “saintly”? Paleeze! Here’s what I need to remember and I’m sure you all will know, but what was the nasty comment her mother left via her will to Jon Voight?? Does anyone remember that? Why did it not get more notice than it did? I mean, the apple def doesn’t fall far from the tree in re. Angie and her mother..who while on their death bed, hoping to transcend into the next part of life, thinks of only being nasty to the man who, what? fooled around on her? paleeze, her daughter does the same, and Jon obviouslly supported his family….I think Angie is much like her mother in MANY ways…and who also taught her the “I love my brother so much right now” way of living?? Ummm, could it be her mother again?? There is something so not right with her mother, and it seems to have dripped down into Angelina’s DNA…dear god, I pitty her kids with Brad, not Brad himself ’cause he asked for all the craziness…
Really Keane you make it difficult to figure out wether you are dumb or wether you just ACT dumb on purpose! Were the hell did I say you were friends with Chelsey? I only mentioned that when talking about official meetings with a president – I was referrering to Jolie meeting with the president of the Dominic Republic (and other presidents whom she has met on her UNHCR travels) in her function as a goodwill ambassador for the UNHCR – not the UN Keane – in contrast to your college experience of meeting Clinton while he “did stuff for a charity you were supporting with your school ball” in his function as a parent of Chelsey. Not quite the same but I see the difference is too diffult for you to grasp.
Now go on and hate Jolie Keane. We all know for whatever reason that makes you feel better!
Ha ha! Keep trying Mia, I can see you’re struggling! SO funny. Ok so sweetheart, let’s go through this again for your benefit one more time:
The UNHCR is a part of the UN sweetheart, you knew that right?
And I met Bill Clinton while I was at college due to his involvement with a charitable cause supporting young people WHICH HAD NOTHING WHATSOEVER TO DO WITH CHELSEA CLINTON, WHO I HAVE NEVER MET AND I DID NOT GO TO THE SAME COLLEGE AS, JUST THE SAME UNIVERSITY. If you are aware of the collegiate system at Oxford and Cambridge you will know that the 30 odd colleges within each university are in fierce competition with each other, we don’t support each other’s endeavours. As Chelsea Clinton did not go to the same college as me her dad was not just showing up and supporting his daughter’s college (as you would like to write it off as!), he was supporting the work a group of people from a completely different college were doing with regard to democratising university admissions. Nothing whatsoever to do with Chelsea as she was not at the same college as me, but you knew that already as you know everything about everything even when you have no experience or knowledge of it whatsoever right? Stop me if this is getting too complicated for you!
So your argument was that “a president wouldn’t waste a second on me” – it was completely irrelevant to what was being discussed but hey when has that ever stopped you before – and that Angelina was somehow better than me because she got her picture taken with a president. (Not that I was ever entering into a competition with her in the first place but this seems to be the only thing you could think of to say). And what I’m saying is, lots of people meet presidents Mia, and get their picture taken with them. Some people are actually doing something to justify that meeting, not just promoting themselves. Oh and by the way, when was the last time you met a president and for what reason Mia? For some reason you forgot to mention it in your last post, can’t think why that might be! (Cue the “a week sight-seeing in Thailand with a week on the beach-esque type story…).
Oh and the spelling Mia, the spelling! For the love of God please use the spellcheck function on word before you make your next post! “Whether” has an “H” in it, “Chelsea” Clinton spells her name with an “A” on the end, not a “Y”, and where also has an “H” in it, it is not “were” as you keep writing. It would make your posts just a tiny bit more credible (and let’s face it, you need all the credibility you can get) if you could just get the spelling of some basic words right!
Thanks for the heads up on the vid with CNN. I posted it for students to see how not to answer what you don’t know with what you do (padding). There were a lot of non-specifics given where I was expecting solid info given the training, conference attending and years of being an ambassador AJ has had who has stated she is reporting back to the UN~
As usual, I am disappointed with her. And now at an academic level too ~:-)
And there were some cringe moments~ Especially the first question~ Why are you here~ and that embarrassing comment by the journalist “presumably you are here for a reason”. Personally, I think Christine was having digs at her a few times across the interview.
If u compare 23 years old Angelina with 23 years old Megan Fox, Megan Fox ia better looking, would win in beauty. Yet we don’t how Megan will look in 34.
If u compare 23 years old Angelina with 23 years old Megan Fox, Megan Fox ia better looking, would win in beauty. Yet, we don’t how Megan will look in 34.
@nicky:
If you have seen the photos that came out today of Angie in Venice, with the visable plastic surgery webbing, I think you will agree that it probably won’t matter what Megan looks like at 34. Megan would more than likely win any such contest. LOL
@Keane Cyber Queen Supreme:
You forgot to add that it would not be likely that the UN would be waiting on the advice of a high school drop out before acting. Absolutely no offence, very tongue in cheek, but I never thought I would see the day where I could add to a Keane post. LOL This joke is a tribute to your thoroughness.
Why do some of my comments disapear?? is it because I can’ spell or do they really suck! do you remove them Ian or is it my new computer F******* with me? Does anyone know why my essays are being removed/lost please help ME I”M SO SAD…
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none, she’s transforming herself into her mother.
ReplyAmazingly in her very early photos she has her father’s looks , then as time progresses, she morph’s into a surgically transformed more refined version of her mother, Marcia Lynne Bertrand born in Illinoise and with a great grandfather who was French Canadian. So, the lies began early on. One can see when the descent into the drug abyss began around 1999/2000 judging by her extreme thinness. It’s as if we are viewing a compilation of proof of a person’s physical and mental downfall. Pity.
ReplyNone. Next please!
Replybb14. Moving on
ReplyWTF is with this homage to Jolie, Ian? I think that face-to-face you had with her has turned you into a believer. Wake up!!
ReplyThis is ridiculous. I think I have to beg off for awhile. I’ll miss reading Keane and Kate and others whose opinions I appreciate.
ReplyFirst of all, she is not an A-Lister, at least not yet. I’m surprised no one caught this but the last time I checked she is not Julia Roberts who makes 20 million per movie or Reese Weatherspoon who makes, if I’m not wrong, closed to 15 million. But I give her the tittle of ‘partner of a has been A-Lister BP’, or B-Plus actress, academy winner.
ReplySecondly, I was going to say none of these looks I like but then I thought about it and wanted to give my honest opinion since I used to like Angelina. I really like the picture on the left, when she was younger because at least here she had that angelical face. The one I saw when I first met her and I thought her name fits her perfectly. She had that ‘innocence’ written all over her face. She was beautiful and everyone including me wanted to be like her. She demostrated a ’strong’ sense of self with an enviable confidence. . she radiated energy; her image was of the equally girl next door and also the image of glamour that could tell you that in the future she will be either like Rachel Welch, Jane Mansfield or Sofia Loren. …more like Sofia of them all. Here at this age you could do practically just about anything and if you were wrong with attitudes or behavior you could say something like this: ‘ I was young and stupid’. But then something happened…people changed. I changed my appereance, my attitude toward life, and Angelina did too. Besides resembling her equally beautiful mother Angelina was changing in behavior attitude toward herself and others with the company she kept. As we get older we should aim to accomplish more spiritual inspiration that will reflect our future actions hence the peace we seek in our old age, but not her. She claimed to have no faith of her own or at least claimed to not know God, buy try to exterminate hunger in the third world countries. We in a perfect sense try to take responsibility for our actions, past and future ones. We embrace the person inside ourselves. We cherish ourselves and we nourish but we don’t knowingly try at the same time to destroy ourselves. Angelina has tried to emulate her mother and sometimes her father since she kept trying for the gold statue while risking the lives of her love ones by not spending justifiable time with them. She might have more enemies than friends now IMO…but she can reverse that anytime, is in her hands. She can be the most beautiful or at least half of the beauty she once was by freeing herself of those chains of wanting to please the world and try to please only those close to her, including her inner spirit. And I said it once and I say it again, Angelina should ask for forgiveness. Is OK to ask for it, this is between her and her creator, no one else. It shouldn’t be anyone business but herself. She doesn’t have to name the person whom to deliver it to or answer to anyone. Then we will see a real smile not a fake one, from the heart. She can accomplish more in her life if she follows that inner child inside her. She will be like 34 years old going into 14 years old, if you catch my grief..Forget about your partner, his faux pas is not helping you succeed. He is like a ‘blind’ man and I mean no disrespect to the blind community. Actually a blind person has more ‘will’ than BP… They do by themselves.. But he is dragging you down, Angie. You could see that when he let the paparazzi take that picture of you two at the superbowl. When in purpose put his hand inside your shirt and touched your private upper body. And is not the lapel for sure, the hand goes beyond that, look closely, you’ll see. He shouldn’t done that. That is disrespectful!! If my hubby would do that to me in public I would have slapped him because it shows that he has no respect for me. His inconsistency and discourtesy when he visited that ‘grooming saloon’ for a trim, again without any consideration for your feelings. He knew the paparazzi will be there for sure. He knows they follow him and you wherever you are. I think he is a ‘FAUST’ to get the God statue and if I was you I would be careful. Like I say you can be A-lister, you don’t need him to be one. He was an A-Lister, but no more. Right now he has to find himself first and stop that binge drinking since he is lost. But you can’t help him, he has to help himself. I’m not saying to stay away from each other since obviously he’s the weakest one. He can’t stay away from your ‘charms’ but I’ m saying that don’t let him drag you down with him to his ‘pity’ pool party. Angelina, you are worth much more than that…or don’t you?
And to my newly friends in this website: Please forgive me, but I have to be fair with AJ and BP too. As you can see even Ian has tone down the critic. I think the website will be of much major value after all. And I am really tired of critisizing someone that is not going to do or read these comments anyway. I just hope for a positive role in my comments and reaching my fellow human beings. Peace out!!
What do you think? let me know, I might go back to my own self…ha, ha, ha.
Some time back, I figured it out that Ian is a fan of Angie.
To each his own!
Ian, I can’t look at Angie for long without recalling the evil she has done.
ReplyTo me she is like those palatial homes in the movies with a fake front. It looks beautiful in the photographs but there’s nothing behind it!
Or, she’s like someone who is made beautiful on the outside with a little help from her friends; but the inside is still rotten!
@marty:
Sorry but this woman and all she does disgusts me and that will never change. Every move she makes is to serve her own interests and to achieve utterly superficial things which are ultimately meaningless. She has not achieved anything significant in her life, all her acts are hollow, and she has no talent. She is not a woman to be admired in any sense. The evil acts she has committed against anyone who is a threat to her and the callous way in which she has exploited her mother, her father and some of the most vulnerable people in the world including her own children for the sake of her image make her one despicable human being. In my opinion she is beyond redemption. She needs to go away, take her face out of the public eye and allow one thing to happen in the world without seeking to be the centre of attention of it all. I don’t know who this woman thinks she is lately but she is clearly deluded. She is not in charge of disaster relief, she is not someone whose opinion on the president matters, she has not won any awards for her “artistry” for many years. She needs to go away, shut the hell up and allow the world to keep on turning without trying to shove her mug in it. This recent behaviour at the Superbowl and in Haiti is just one step too far for me. Neither of these things were about her and yet she has tried to make them so. I’m sorry but the images of Angelina at the biggest American sporting event of the year and in the world’s worst disaster zone are just totally inappropriate and out of place. She has no reason to be at either of them, what is she DOING there? It is like she will show up for the opening of an envelope if it will get her picture in the paper. First Muhammad Ali, then the Superbowl and now Haiti? She has nothing to do with ANY of them and the world’s media are suckers for lapping her crap up. She’s got to go.
ReplyMy 2 cents: this is celebrity – rightly or wrongly, A-list, ex-A-list, no list… celebrity! How much of what we hear is even true? But it’s fun to talk about and here we are, talking and writing and the papers and magazine love those people because they help sell their stuff! Alot of peole are deserving of much less attention – that Jon guy in Jon and Kate – or Paris Hilton… now what have THEY done to deserve press? Respectfully to some people commenting here – although it is probably fair to criticize the person, I think using your celebrity to attract attention to world tragedies shouldn’t be criticized. 2 cents!
Reply@Keane Cyber Queen Supreme:
I have to completely agree, what after all this time was she doing in Haiti besides using it to deflect from all the bad press she has been given. If she truly was genuine in her humanitarian spirit for them, she would have been there much sooner. No , she needed it, and she wanted to be interviewed. It has gotten ridiculous, they are being made fun of to the point you would think even those around them would feel ashamed. I don’t agree with IAN that she ever puts herself in harms way, she takes her child into those areas for God’s sake. She has more security with her than our own boys do that are in harms way, no, this latest display , especially back to back , the SB to Haiti was a big FU to the the media and everyone that is dogging them on the break up.I say it is time to leave alone, ignore them completely, while they live with the misery they have created. They are both fame whores and it will not be long before they bring themselves to the fore front again. It is simply disgusting the way this has played out. Angelina was actually giggling during that sorry display at the SB during the kiss. Brad has allowed her to make a mockery of him. All for image and to screw with the paps, and all it is doing is screwing with their own image. More people are disgusted with them both today than they were a month ago. Hell even that sorry John Mayer will come out on top of his faux pas before they do from this mess. Why, because he took the heat for it.
I have a question, pick a picture of there, and try to imagine which one of those was doing the dirty with the family pet, because we were told that Jolie was the Queen of bestility in LA, and the deed did go down. So, someone please tell me why we are saluting this nasty whore? Piss, and shi*te and rubber sheets and doggies, and so the hell what if she donates 25 million or a 100 million or visits every country in the world, none of that will ever make her clean. She is filthy, and until she is willing to put herself out there and get help and turn her life around I don’t see how one can look at a picture of her and see anything else…unless of course someone wants to update us and tell us none of that is true, but there is just too much, and even without IAN’s reports, those stories have long been around. If she was going to sue anyone it should have been over the dog story when IAN discussed in a chat, or the rubber sheet story that Anna K swears by.
She did not,and that is a confirmation jmho.
Going against docs here but whatever..had to say..
WHAT IS THE POINT OF THIS BLOG ENTRY?
love ya IAN, just asking, enlighten us please?
Reply@inOttawa:
Well that might be true, if this tragedy was one that happened and no one was aware of, but honestly, with the exception of those buried six feel under or cremated do you honestly think there is anyone who is not aware of the Haiti situation? What exactly did Angelina Jolie do for the situation in her short visit that Anderson Cooper has not done over the last 6 weeks? Please enlighten me?
Did she bring in supplies , Doctors, as Harrison Ford did, wait, she did do one thing, she inspired a very funny video about her a Brad, the guy sounds like him, it was hilarious, she could not name her kids. Got to give her that, we all need a good laugh in the midst of a tragedy, right.
nothing personal INOttawa, and this is not aimed at you.
Reply@marty:
Marty I agree with you to a point, Angelina has a quality about her , or did that draws you in. I use to feel very sorry for her, and still do at times, although it may not sound that way in some of my posts, I get disgusted with some of her behavior. On the other hand I do realize she needs help and it is infuriating that those around her do not help her get it for the sake of her children.I do believe Angelina could change , if she wanted to, but she probably does not think there is anything wrong with any of the things she does. free will, free world, that is her choice, but then don’t inflict those choices onto the children. Does she, we don’t know for sure, but anyone with her dx in all likelihood does. She was beautiful at one time, 10 years ago, but she has ruined her looks with the drugs or whatever. It is quite sad really because at one time, think she probably was genuine about her work with the refugees, regardless of why she got involved. Can she recapture that, maybe, if she let’s go of the quest for fame. You have to be humble and put them first, all mothers know that, all true humanitarians know that. Every one has the right to forgiveness and redemption. It does not take long for one to screw up their life, but it takes years to redeem yourself once you do, but with honestly and a earnest and humble heart she could accomplish that. She did it before, or it appeared that she did, but we found out that was not altogether
genuine, and that facade fell away. Look at all these men that mess up, GQ did a story on them this month on how to say you are sorry and mean it. You do it quickly, you do it sincerely, you tell all the truth, you take the heat for what you did, man up ,and move on with your life. These two have never done that. They spin, they scheme, they twist, they, all in the name of their rights, “we don’t owe anyone an explanation”..well we see where that got them. They may not owe it, but time has taught us that the words “I’m sorry” go much further than writing out a check. You can not buy your way out of quick sand.
jmo
Reply@Kate:
That’s what I think too, don’t the people around them see what damage they are doing to their clients with all this? First the release of the video of her mother, then the shameless SB display and now trying to take centre stage in the relief programme designed to help millions of desperately in need people like she is responsible for it? It is the most cynical, utterly outrageous display of PR madness I have ever seen in my life, even from Angelina, and that really is saying something. She must be utterly out of her mind on drugs to be going along with this because she is utterly destroying the thin veneer of respectability she fought so hard to gain. Her people are literally going for broke trying to keep their business (her) afloat and it seems like they genuinely don’t care how it turns out, it is all or nothing for them. Let’s face it, Geyer can always move on to his next victim. I doubt he genuinely cares about his client, most managers/agents/publicists don’t, they care about the money. And they are giving this product one final push to see if they can keep it afloat and if they can’t I predict they will bail on her as fast as you can say “Trevor Neilson”. She is f*cking up, big time, but then the woman is so arrogant she thinks she can get away with murder, and after all she has done before. Yep, she thinks the world is stupid and that she can play us all for morons, but unfortunately for her people don’t tend to make the same mistake twice. The only way out of this for her would be to back away, get away from the spotlight for a good year and allow the announcement of the split to go ahead without any comment or pre-arranged photo opp from her. Instead she is running around like an absolute lunatic trying to act like everything is fine and to keep her brand alive. It is the biggest trainwreck the celebrity world has ever seen I think and she is going to plummet because of this. And I wonder whether Ian knows this and is just trying to keep the interest alive for the sake of his book and that of his friend Andrew Morton? No-one’s going to want to read an unauthorised bio of a washed-up has-been with a gang of troubled and increasingly less photogenic chidlren who the world has long since stopped caring about. Just a guess and just my opinion.
Reply@Kate:
Hm, I personally meet a lot more people in the real world who are a thousand times more deserving of my sympathy than Angelina is. There are a lot of people in this world who have genuinely had such a crappy life that I have no idea how they have even made it through to adulthood. People who have been neglected by their parents, abused, had children who have been born with serious illnesses and syndromes which will make the rest of their lives unbelievably hard, have no education to speak of or career prospects and are all in all seriously damaged individuals. I’m not entirely sure why I’m supposed to feel sorry for Angelina other than because she is a drug-addled f*ck-up. I mean, did she really have that bad a childhood? I don’t see it. And what is so bad about becoming a pampered, spoilt, idiotic movie star? Seems like quite a privileged life to me. I personally think she has created this idea that she is some sort of mental case victim who was abandoned by her father to make herself look tragic and interesting and to make people sympathise with her. I think she has created that image of herself to make her seem like genuinely troubled and tragic stars such as Princess Diana and Marilyn Monroe. I think it is a fabrication. So no, I don’t agree with this idea that we should feel sorry for “poor Angie” in any way, I think she is doing a very good job of feeling sorry for herself already, don’t think she needs our help at all. And while she’s acting all tragic and victim-like she’s taking a lot of sympathy and attention away from some much more deserving individuals. No time for her at all, sorry.
ReplyAnd can I just ask what is with the very cutting and caustic “let’s all throw a pity party for this voluptuous mattress” comment directed at the comparatively inoffensive Scarlett Johansson because she committed the crime of losing money on her house, while the shameless Ms Jolie is referred to as “A-list Angie” and we’re asked to flick through a selection of her looks to decide which one she looks cutest in? I mean, what is up with that? Surely by now Ian you must know that no-one here likes any of her looks because we DO NOT LIKE HER. Why would we invest any time in thinking about or rating her various hairstyles when we think she is a fundamentally bad human being? Seriously Ian, there is so much more to say on this subject than this!
Reply@Keane Cyber Queen Supreme:
ReplyITA but if I were to comment at all it would be to say the first picture of Angie looks absolutely satanic, her eyes appear to be red, its scary looking.
@Tamara:
Ok so good, so why don’t we talk about that phony ass interview on CNN where Ms Holie acted like she was the first reporter on the scene of the disaster in Haiti breaking the news to the world and that she was playing a crucial part in the relief effort, because that really was some unbelievable shit! I love how she acted like she was so superior to the rest of the world because we are all so fickle over charity and suffer from compassion-fatigue whereas she is always on the case and is never once distratced from her mission! Oh and I also loved the fact that she didn’t seem to know two shits about what she was talking about! When that idiot interviewer asked her what illnesses were the main concern of the relief organisations she was like “uh, erm, all of them I think, I hear TB is popular and cholera is big these days, oh and yes amputees, silly me, how could I forget, I was just talking to one of those!”. It was ludicrous. There was no point to her being there, she didn’t know any more about it than we all do and she is achieving absolutely nothing. That interview was bought in my view, there is no other explanation for why she would have been asked to do it otherwise, no way. I think she slipped someone a few quid for it. JMO
ReplyThere is something about Angelina Jolie that bothers me- i cannot name what it is, i only know that I do not like her. Most of all I cannot understand America’s fascination with her (or any other celebrities).
Replyhttp://earsucker.com/2010/02/13/is-robert-pattinson-gay/
Robert Pattinson of the “Twilight” films says to Details Magazine that he “hates vaginas”. hmmm…
(btw, his “relationship” w/ Kristen Stewart is a complete pr stunt a la Zac Efron and Vanessa Hudgens [who I'm surprised are still together after their respective HSM films])
Reply@Keane Cyber Queen Supreme:
ReplyYes absolutely Keane!! And, lets not forget the little fact that she has been sleeping with Bill Clinton (there is no doubt in my mind that he is the politician Ian has been alluding to) she waited to go to Haiti until he was there. I wondered why BP didn’t go with her, this would have been the icing on the Superbowl cake for them to be seen in Haiti together, Hilary wasn’t there either. Then, there is the fact that Bill Clinton is the UN Special Envoy to Haiti, he has to be the one who had her appointed to the UN, they just happened to be there at the same time, and then she spouts all Clintons initiatives in the interview as if they were her very own, and then…drum roll…..Clinton suffers a heart attack in Haiti…..would an overdose of viagra in order to keep up with the HO in bed cause a heart attack? Hell Yes!! None of that is a coincidence IMO.
@Keane Cyber Queen Supreme:
Replymuch more to say indeed, Keane and thank you. reading all your materials brought me back to reality and I realized why am I really here for. …AJ disgusts me…no question about that. I felt like someone emptied a bucket of frozen water down my back and my head. ..but I have to come to my senses. These couple really needs help..hopefully someone will rely this messages and I pray that they seek the help they need. The future of their children depends on that.
@Keane Cyber Queen Supreme:
I agree with everything you’ve posted here. She makes me sick. I”d just like to point out something::
She skips the celebrity telethon, waits a sufficient amount of time until other celebrities have made their donations and the telethon publicity has died down, THEN she makes me master move of going to Haiti – of course she looks like the Saint who will actually go in and help people and couldn’t be bothered by a normal celebrity telethon….she is so much more superior….
And can someone please explain to me why this woman, who constantly brags about her charity work and pilots license actually put that to good use and fly supplies down to Haiti like John Travolta and Harrison Ford? There is no explanation. For someone who makes such of an image off of those two bits of information if she really truly cared I think she would have been doing something much more significant to help. Instead she waits the required amount of time to get all the attention for herself and stands in for the “I care so much” photos with injured children and she’s back in LA before you even know what happened.
UGHHHHHHHHHH I SERIOUSLY CANNOT STAND HER!
ReplyI completely took this as a joke. Like, he’s saying “Look at all the plastic surgery she’s had! No wonder everyone considers her to be beautiful, she’s put together the perfect face.” Why else would he put 3 pictures side-by-side that hardly give any indication that they are of the same person. If I had no idea who she was, and if he hadn’t written any caption, I would have just wondered why he posted pictures of three random women.
Replyi prefer none. do you have a softie for holie Ian?
Reply@Lizzy:
Christine sounded as stupid in interviewing her as Jolie did answering lol, “I went because I was curious” blah blah, blah. I watched another special on CNN about this woman who took a group of young under privileged black students , underachievers, etc, to Africa. They asked her why, why not just write a check. She said, well, I definitely need the check, to writing the check is important, but the check can not replace one on one with a child, looking into their eyes, mentoring them, encouraging, etc. That is paraphrased.
I thought, Angelina could learn from her, about mentoring her own children, and other kids, what she thinks she is accomplishing going to Haiti is beyond many. It almost seems like a joint venture between her and others, she lets them use her for the publicity it brings them, (I don’t mean Haiti) and she uses them for the good PR it brings her. They just all use each other. Total fluff. Waste of UN resources.
I know many stopped their subscription with People because of these two, lol, if CNN keeps this up, hmm, Murdoch will have nothing to worry about.
Reply@Lauren:
NOW Magazine is pro Jolie, and considering the capPhotos – Angelina Jolie – from sultry teenager to sexy Hollywood star – AMAZING PICStion reads, ”
I am going to guess that IAN posted this for controversy , because he knows none of us think she is beautiful and that none of us have a high opinion of her, that was made pretty clear when Erin did the Megan vs Angie story awhile back and got ripped to shreds.
just a guess though, can’t imagine why else he posted it, unless it is research.
Reply@Kate:
ReplyLOL, yea, I remember that well! hahaha
@Tamara:
ReplyOkay, I’ve been told that this BC isn’t anywhere near the truth so I guess that blows my theory all to hell! Sorry folks! LOL I’ve decided Im not cut out for this game………
@Tamara:
Do you mean Bill Clinton, well none of us really know, but considering what we do know I would not think that to be likely, however, hey, if he offered her a cigar that could give him some heart problems too lol
I just kind of doubt that went down at this time, after Brads recent dealings with him, her staying away from him, him turning Jolie down for the help she wanted for the position and the adoptions etc…just a guess. I have to give BC a little credit for some decency I think he has reaped some benefits from what he has been through and grown some heartstrings attached to a conscience. lol jmho though.
Reply@ Lizzy – absolutely the timing of the thing was completely obvious and highly predictable. It is clear she is feeling threatened by the sudden influx of celebs doing charity work and she is trying to separate herself from them (as she did with Madonna and her adoptions). She deliberately did not join in with the telethon – even though her supposed husband did – because it was about a load of celebs sitting down together, forgetting their celebrity and BEING HUMBLE, which would be complete anathema to her. Instead she got the CEO of one of her pet charities, SOS villages, to release an unbelievably sycophantic and completely inappropriate statement to the world that “SOS villages are there before, during and after the cameras stop rolling. So is Angelina Jolie.” This statement is simply breathtaking to me in it’s repulsiveness. How anyone could be trying to promote themselves at a time of international crisis like this is beyond me. She is trying to separate herself from all the other celebs and hold on to her shakily occupied PR ground, and it is disgusting. So of course she waits for the telethon to be over, waits for the attention on GC to die down a bit, then she makes her move and acts like she is the only celebrity to do anything at all! No wonder this woman is disliked in HW – well probably more like hated these days! And then she commissions an interview with CNN in which the kiss-ass interviewer (who sounded as thick as a plank) kindly pointed out she was “one of the first” celebs to donate to Haiti. Well, if you can’t be the only one best be the first hey Angie? Then she tours the DR and Haiti for a bit so the camera can get some good shots of her to insert into the interview. If you look at the clip where she’s kneeling by the bed with the child who had had his leg amputated – conveniently arranged so the cameraman could get her face into the shot obviously – you will see her eyes flicking away from the child to look at the cameraman to make sure he is getting the shot he wants, it is completely obvious! This is a PR enterprise for Jolie, nothing more and nothing less, and it is disgraceful.
ReplyI lived in San Francisco when Clinton was President. I have two anecdotes about his visit.
1) President Clinton held up plane travel for forty five minutes, because he was getting a haircut. (This was reported in the SF newspaper(s) at the time.)
2) A good acquaintance, who happened to be gay, told me that he was in the right place to see Clinton, without planning it to happen.
He said as Clinton passed his way, Clinton stared at him; and it wasn’t a “man-to-man” look, he said.
I’m just trying to describe a picture of a married prez, staring at my native american, slightly-built friend.
I should have asked him how he felt about it.
ReplyFLASH!
Canada just got it’s first gold medal in its home olympics!
Reply@Keane Cyber Queen Supreme:
And still to this day you haven`t figured out the obvious Keane! Jolie is a Goodwill ambassador for the UNHCR and the trips she makes are in ACCORDANCE and in AGREEMENT with that organisation!
Call it self promotion all you want it suits the goals of the UNHCR otherwise she wouldn`t be allowed to make those trips in their name! And no president would waste a single secoond on YOU Keane just to use an example were you stand and were she stands! Whatever she learns form the doctors in Haiti or the children there she will report back to the UNHCR. She draws both further attention to certain problems through her superstar status that garantees her interview time with news channels such as CNN while also reaching the mainstream through her celebrity status.
ReplyAnyway there are 100 easier ways to get attention and striping naked on a magazine covered only by y a tie is just one of them.
@lory:
Mia that was hilarious! A president wouldn’t waste a single second on me would he? That has to be one of your most intelligent comments so far because I’m afraid I have met Bill Clinton (as have several of my friends) and he did waste more than a second on us I’m afraid to say! FYI I was at college at the same time as Chelsea and he came to visit and did some stuff for a charity we were supporting with our college ball. Nice guy. One of my friends works for the Clinton Initiative in Hong Kong now in fact. So sorry to rain on your parade Mia, but I have met a president before, and he did waste more than a second on me. And I didn’t have to give him a blow-job either (unlike poor Angie!).
So tell me Mia, have you managed to “figure out the obvious” yet? (i.e that you are a complete tit)? And that really is the nicest word I could think of which starts and ends with a t to call you today!
Reply@lory:
Replyhhhhaaaa .It is true that there are 100 easier ways to get attention naked on a magazine covered only by y a tie is just one of them. but your bitch can’t do it .Who want to see a naked skeleton on a cover of magazine .hhhaa she knows people will throw up if they saw her without clothes and makeup .
@lory:
P.S. Mia, Haiti is one of those causes that really does not need the help of Angelina Jolie to shine a spotlight on it right now. There has been blanket coverage of it on the news since the disaster happened and every celebrity in HW and the music industry has rallied round to sbow it’s support. Maybe in 6 months time when the world may have been distracted by other causes this may have been a justifiable argument, but not a week or two after that major celeb-packed telethon led by George Clooney! The way she was talking like people had forgotten all about it in that ridiculous interview with the idiotic Christine Amanpour was laughably offensive. How dare she suggest that we have forgotten all about it already and we need dilligent and superior human beings in the worlds of celebrity and the media such as herself and Christine to remind us of it! I think that little interview did her more harm than good for sure.
And by the way Mia, if the UN is waiting on the advice of a HW actress on how to deal with a major disaster zone a whole month after the disaster has occurred we are all in serious trouble. I’m not sure what crazy little world you live in Mia, but in my world, the safeguarding of millions of displaced, homeless, highly vulnerable people and the rebuilding of an entire city is not orchestrated by the star of action flicks such as Tomb Raider and Mr and Mrs Smith! Dear God help us if it was. But the picture you paint is a funny one though. Can just imagine all those hard-working, earnest UN workers sitting patiently in their offices waiting for Ms Jolie to do a tour of the disaster zone and report back on “what needs to be done”. I bet they are all so grateful to her for going, now – one whole month down the line – the relief programme can finally start! You are priceless Mia.
Reply@Keane Cyber Queen Supreme:
Ah poor Keane seems like any day is wasted in your eyes were you cannot act like a total a.ss and be as cynical and offensive as posssible!
By the way were did I mentioned that the UNHCR DEPENDS on Jolie`s opinion alone? She is just one possible way for them of drawing attention to different causes and getting direct expericene reports from the people in crisis zones. If you are not familiar with the role of a Goodwill ambassaador for the UNHCR then why don`t you inform yourself by going to the UNHCR website instead of babbling nonsense?
ReplyBy the way when mentioning a meeting with presidents I was NOT talking about your college education. Also it is nice of Clinton to not have ignored his daughter`s fellow students.
Pitt, Jolie split! No, they didn’t … wait … nope
The tabloids are obsessed with demise of star couple and return of Aniston
By Courtney Hazlett
msnbc.com
updated 6:41 p.m. ET, Mon., Feb. 15, 2010
Brad Pitt and Jennifer Aniston have been apart for five years; Brad Pitt and Angelina Jolie have been together for nearly as long. Judging from recent photos of Jolie and Pitt at the Super Bowl in Miami and Aniston celebrating her 41st birthday in Mexico, they’re all getting on just fine.
So why the constant coverage on so many covers of celebrity weeklies, claiming illicit trysts, imminent splits and secret texts?
Since 2009, Jolie, Pitt and Aniston have appeared on the cover in some iteration of 23 issues of In Touch Weekly, 13 issues of Life & Style, two issues of Us Weekly and two issues of People magazine. While some of this coverage has been of the positive ilk, most has not.
The explanation for the exposure ad nauseam is fairly simple. If magazines featuring Jolie, Pitt and to some extent, Aniston, didn’t sell, they wouldn’t be on the newsstand. But the fact is, no matter how outlandish some of the claims may seem, people want to read about these three, and they pay to do so.
“Even the more reputable magazines have started to take the Brad and Angelina fighting stories further and further as they know that’s what works,” said a rep for one of the magazines.
Everyone is happy
But depending on whom you listen to, you probably shouldn’t believe everything you read. For starters, sources in both the Aniston and Jolie-Pitt camps insist that all parties are happy.
“Jen got over Brad a long time ago,” said a source who has known Aniston since the actress and Pitt were married. “She doesn’t wake up thinking she’s made some huge mistake, she doesn’t worry about running into him at events, she has her own life and it’s a great one.”
“Brad and Angie are just fine. Most of this doesn’t even phase them,” said a source close to the couple. “It’s not like they’re out scanning newsstands. They’ve got better things to do.”
That said, the magazines use copious amounts of ink speculating on new romances, especially in the case of Aniston. If she’s not secretly texting Pitt, is she dating Gerard Butler? Well they did do a movie together and he showed up in Mexico to celebrate her 41st birthday … or maybe they’re just friends.
These celebrities do take their dating lives seriously since they will be so publicly documented. Even Aniston’s ex John Mayer, who can posses a frightening lack of self-awareness, was made aware of this fact. He told Playboy, “I had a conversation about fame with Jen before we really stepped out in public. She said, ‘Do you understand what this entails?’ Two weeks later I had people outside my house. … I knew I’d have to move to a home that had a gate.”
The Jolie-Pitts, in many ways, do live behind a gate. Their house in Los Angeles is exceedingly private. In public, they go to great lengths to blend in, often traveling by cab instead of the standard-issue black SUV.
More eyes on celebs
So if there’s little visual proof to be had of strife, where do the stories come from? There are two schools of thought. One is that the business has become a big game of telephone. There’s no longer one spy per magazine on every A-list couple — there’s an entire army of tipsters that come by way of paparazzi, tweeters and party crashers. These tipsters might make one innocuous observation that, once spread along the grapevine, is entirely blown out of proportion. An expression that might just fall under the category of “tired” or “momentarily not engaged in anything exciting,” becomes something like, “Angelina is bored with Brad!”
The other way of thinking on the issue is much simpler. “They just make up stuff to sell these issues,” said one person with close ties to the tabloid magazine business.
When a magazine spends half the year contending you’ve split, why not fight back? For the most part, the constant chatter is just that, and it’s not really fazing anyone. Where the game changes and you get to a breaking point like Brangelina is when the rumors become destructive.
Reached the breaking point
It was confirmed Feb. 8 that Pitt and Jolie had begun legal proceedings against the News of the World, a Sunday tabloid and Britain’s highest selling newspaper.
An attorney for the couple said the newspaper had made “false and intrusive allegations” when it reported Jan. 24 that Pitt and Jolie had agreed to separate, to divide assets worth $320 million and had made arrangements regarding the custody of their six children.
Once you cross a line where you’re hurting the family, and the rumors are no longer just speculation about two adults who are in a committed relationship, that’s when a big A-lister like Brad and Angie will take action,” said one publicist.
In the case of the News of the World report, it was the straw that broke Brangelina’s back, because it’s what set off a new round of speculation that even staid news outlets took seriously and reported. It’s one thing when another tabloid alleges an affair with a dialect coach.
But there is another way to look at the ceaseless attention, at least when it is mostly of the innocuous variety. Constantly being the subject of a headline or the face on a magazine cover goes a long way in maintaining relevance.
As they say, all press is good press.
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ReplySex, lies and gossip magazines
OLIVER BURKEMAN
June 28, 2009
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IN OCTOBER 2007, at the unpoliced border between truth and invention where most weekly celebrity magazines have their headquarters, a rumour began to take hold: Brad Pitt and Angelina Jolie were splitting up. “The romance is over,” declared the US weekly In Touch, though its cover showed the world’s most famous couple looking generally content. “Jen blamed for wrecking marriage,” Britain’s Grazia explained a few weeks later, illustrating the story with a paparazzi shot of Pitt’s ex-wife, Jennifer Aniston, wearing an irritated expression.
By then, though, In Touch already had a new scoop — “A wedding to keep Brad!” — and by the spring of 2008, things were looking official: “Yes, they’re getting married! The emotional moment Angelina knew she had to marry Brad.” (A special edition of In Touch soon followed: “Brad and Angelina: the wedding of the century.”)
Curiously, the happy news never made the cover of the US edition of OK!, which focused instead on “the wedding of the year” — a “backyard ceremony” between Aniston and the singer John Mayer. Within months, the Aniston-Mayer union had flowered into another OK! exclusive that seemed to put to rest, at last, the long-running drama of the then 39-year-old Aniston’s hunger for motherhood. “Baby time for Jen,” the magazine announced. In the Jolie-Pitt household, by contrast, things were no longer rosy: in fact, the relationship was over. “Brad walks away,” revealed In Touch.
Of course, from a traditional perspective on the nature of reality, there were problems with these stories. Brad Pitt and Angelina Jolie had not separated, and did not get married. Jennifer Aniston and John Mayer did not get married either. As far as can be ascertained, Aniston is not pregnant.
“These weeklies no longer have any interest in actual reporting,” Aniston’s publicist, Stephen Huvane, told me via email. Richard Spencer, the editor-in-chief of In Touch, insists that all his stories are double-sourced. But maybe these disagreements over journalistic ethics miss the point. The weeklies are their own world, with their own rules. Their priority is to keep the rollercoaster of a star’s life — romance, betrayal, marriage, separation, reunion — moving as quickly as possible. Real facts play a role, but not always a leading one. “A tabloid version of a fact isn’t exactly a lie,” is how one editor at a prominent celebrity weekly puts it. “But it isn’t the truth. You know what I mean?”
And nowhere does the roller-coaster lurch more rapidly than in the narrative of the Aniston/Pitt/Jolie love triangle, now entering its sixth year — an astonishingly long time in the fast-turnover world of the weeklies. Even the verifiable facts about the three, the ones we can all agree on, seem too good to be true. A personable, blonde, all-American girl next door, cherished for her role in Friends, marries the leading heart-throb of his generation, who leaves her for a mercurial, almost freakishly beautiful star.
He adopts her two children, they adopt one more, and have three of their own, including a pair of predictably perfect twins. Their expanding family — effortlessly combined with their humanitarian work — stands in perpetual affront to the all-American blonde, who makes no secret of her desire to have children, but instead bounces from one liaison to another, happiness always just out of reach.
But the verifiable facts will only take you so far. Fuelled by panic over falling magazine circulations, the challenges posed by blogs and a desensitised readership hungry for authentic emotion, the storyline of Brad, Angelina and Jennifer has achieved escape velocity. It seems, somehow, to exist independently of its real-life protagonists, even as it draws on the facts of their lives. And its inner workings — the web of relationships between stars, publicists, editors, paparazzi, “insider” sources and bloggers — show the machinery of modern fame operating at its most combative, absurd and intense.
The frenetic state of today’s celebrity news industry stems from one inescapable fact: the lives of real people — even people as volatile and wealthy as A-list movie stars — simply don’t unfold fast enough to meet the appetite for information about them. Weekly magazines need weekly scoops, and preferably scoops different enough to distinguish them from their rivals. Sales of celebrity magazines are plummeting but the decline seems only to have increased the desperation for exclusives.
OUTSIDE the traditional markets, meanwhile, OK! India or OK! Middle East (”Dubai’s premier celebrity magazine”) may be hunting for their own angle. Thousands of blogs crave multiple daily updates, and the biggest — TMZ.com, PerezHilton.com — can afford to pay for paparazzi pictures. And yet one person can only adopt so many Cambodian children in a given year.
“You build the story around an emotion,” says a celebrity weekly editor, who spoke on condition of anonymity. “What’s happening with poor Jen this week? Well, John Mayer’s seeing someone else, and for a woman of her age, that must be awful … So you construct a narrative of what a woman her age may be feeling.”
Stories may start with nothing more than a set of photographs: Aniston looking happy, or sad or happy one moment and sad the next, since if you take multiple shots of anyone, with a fast shutter speed, you can capture a range of expressions. “The question is: how can we construct a story around a set of emotions that our readers are going to relate to? It can come from a genuine tip, or a photo. Or it can come out of our arse.”
Despite this freewheeling approach to the facts, the resulting stories stick to a narrow range. Aniston must emerge with hope, the editor says: despondency must be short-lived, because it’s depressing and, just as importantly, dull. (It would be just as dull were Aniston to find lasting peace with being single or childless. Stable couples are boring, too, however great their Hollywood clout: Kate Winslet doesn’t sell magazines, and neither do Reese Witherspoon and Jake Gyllenhaal.)
There are only really seven Brad/Jen/Angelina stories, endlessly recycled: Brad and Angelina in love; Brad and Angelina obtaining more children; Brad secretly meeting or texting Jen; Angelina’s fury at Brad for meeting or texting Jen; Angelina looking dangerously thin (”scary skinny”); Jen in love; Jen alone again.
Intuitively, you’d think the stars must ultimately welcome such coverage: surely even the pitiable image of Poor Jen is valuable exposure for an actor whose recent movies haven’t been blockbusters? But while undoubtedly true lower down the food chain, at the highest level of the celebrity ecosystem, if Pitt, Aniston and Jolie do benefit they don’t acknowledge it.
When I put the matter to Huvane, who represents Aniston, Gwyneth Paltrow, Demi Moore, Meg Ryan, Julianne Moore and Kirsten Dunst, he declined to be interviewed, but then sent several lengthy emails. “I don’t think lies and complete fabrications serve any positive result,” he wrote. “We were doing just fine before the weeklies even existed … All they do is distort and damage the dignity of the private lives of actors … I have never represented a client who enjoyed being followed by paparazzi or having fabricated stories about their lives in those magazines.”
Huvane is notorious for refusing to dignify stories in the weeklies with a response; Aniston confines her interviews to more respectful monthlies, and has worn the same outfit for days, to reduce the market value of paparazzi shots. Huvane is scornful of the notion that this total non-co-operation only lets the rumour mill run wild.
“If you co-operate with one of the magazines, their competitors become vengeful and attack clients,” he emailed. “There is no upside to working with them … Their tactic is to make up stories that are so damaging, in the hope that we would engage in a dialogue that gives them access to the talent.”
Which is not to say that the stars don’t fan the flames by discussing their private relationships in the interviews they do give: Aniston famously told Vogue she thought Jolie’s public comments about falling in love with Pitt, on the set of Mr & Mrs Smith, had been “totally uncool”. At one recent film awards ceremony, Aniston even mined the love-triangle story for laughs, telling the audience that the titles of her movies (The Good Girl, Derailed, The Breakup) mirrored her life: “If anyone has a movie called Everlasting Love with an Adult Stable Man, that would be great!”
AMID this environment of low-level war between publicists and magazines, Jolie cuts an exceptional figure. The 34-year-old employs no publicist, and for years at a time has had no agent. She arranges press and TV appearances herself, using a team of assistants, and last year, according to The New York Times, personally orchestrated the bidding war for the first pictures of her twins, Knox Leon and Vivienne Marcheline. The sale of rights, which went to People magazine in the US and Hello! in the rest of the world, raised $US14million for the Pitt-Jolie Foundation, breaking all records for baby photos. The agreement, The New York Times reported, specified that the winning magazines were “obliged to offer coverage that would not reflect negatively on (Jolie) or her family”. In a statement, People denied making such a deal, but has been unsparingly positive in its coverage.
In a manner reminiscent of Princess Diana, Jolie has openly exploited the appetite for pictures to highlight her humanitarian work, which involves significant Washington lobbying efforts as well as the usual foreign trips. It’s not clear whether her motives are entirely philanthropic: the focus on refugee issues may also serve to displace unwanted coverage, such as the potentially damaging portrayal of Jolie as a marriage-wrecker, which distressed her. But her approach shows how a strategically minded star can still wrest power from the ravening media.
FRANCOIS Navarre came to Los Angeles from France to cover hard news: as a photojournalist for Le Monde, he chronicled the race riots on America’s west coast in the early 1990s. “I thought gossip news was not serious at all,” he says. But he proved unable to resist. Navarre founded X17, now one of the biggest paparazzi agencies, employing about 60 photographers. When a newly bald Britney Spears attacked and damaged a sports utility vehicle with an umbrella in February 2007, it was an X17 photographer’s vehicle that she targeted.
We’re accustomed, with good reason, to thinking of the paparazzi as the lowest of the low, unworthy of being called journalists. But the irony of celebrity media is that the pictures sold by X17 and others are the only part that is solidly, indisputably real. How those pictures are interpreted by magazine writers, on the other hand, is anyone’s guess. “Today we had this exact thing,” Navarre says. “Hugh Grant, in New York, leaving a restaurant. In one picture he looks really upset, and in another, he’s smiling. I’m sure we’ll see ‘look how angry he is, he’s a loser,’ and also, ‘look, how happy and charming!’ For Angelina, too — they totally take it picture by picture, to illustrate different angles.”
Pure fabrication by magazines is rare, Navarre says. “Coming from hard news, we had this idea that in gossip, everything’s fake. But now I’m on the gossip side, I’m surprised by how most of the time it’s not. You’ll have a little bit of news — a hint. I thought the fight between Angelina and Aniston would be totally fake, but it’s not. Ninety per cent of the time, it comes from something true.” Besides, he says, sounding briefly like a French philosopher, “There is this idea that there is only one truth, and that you have to stick to it. But maybe not.”
The blogosphere has greatly exacerbated this “what-is-truth-anyway?” approach. At sites such as Gawker and Defamer, Hollywood gossip is breathlessly consumed, but also marinaded in a rich sauce of cynicism. Readers are happy to engage with the narrative, and even buy ironic Team Aniston and Team Jolie T-shirts, without assuming any particular story to be true. The same is surely true of many readers of the weeklies. But the blogs, unlike the magazines, can admit it.
Richard Spencer at In Touch is adamant that quotations attributed to “an insider” in his magazine always come from “someone very close to the celebrity, or someone the celebrity employs — anyone from a bodyguard to a nanny to a friend to a hairstylist”, and that they’re never paid. But he’s happy to acknowledge that truth can be kaleidoscopic. “Different friends tell different people different things,” he says when I point out blatant contradictions between his magazine and others. “It’s not a question of anyone being wrong. If you were having divorce trouble, one friend could say, ‘Oh, they’re solid, nothing to worry about.’ Another could say, ‘You didn’t see the fight I saw last night. She was crying in the bathroom.’ ”
As for the Brangelina wedding that never happened, Spencer’s argument runs as follows. The weeklies report the current state of rumours. A wedding was rumoured, so it was truthful to report that. “We’re not the type of magazine to just wait until it’s confirmed,” he says. “People closely involved were talking about it. Pretend you had a sister in the same situation. Do you only want to know when your sister has got married? Or do you want me to tell you I had dinner with her last night, and she told me she thinks she might get married this summer? You can’t just sit back and say ‘when it happens, we’ll report it with everyone else’.”
“Angelina’s birthday ends in tears,” reports the current edition of In Touch. “A friend” explains that “too much togetherness has taken its toll”. The magazine adds: “While Brad did go to a lot of trouble for Angelina’s 34th — presenting her with a specially commissioned painting of their family, as well as lingerie from Angelina’s favourite store, Agent Provocateur — it wasn’t long before the troubled couple erupted in a fight over Brad’s ex-wife … ‘Things were going fine, and then Angie started accusing Brad of meeting Jen in LA,’ says an associate.”
When you spend too much time poring over celebrity magazines, and interviewing their employees, odd things start to happen to your brain. You wonder at whether the magazines’ hunger for new storylines somehow exert an influence on reality itself? According to the laws of some strange physics, unstudied by scientists, might the narrative necessity of a Brangelina divorce lead to one actually happening, in real life?
Well, not for now, according to last week’s People, which unsurprisingly offers an entirely different take from In Touch. Angelina’s birthday celebrations went flawlessly and happened not at the couple’s Long Island mansion but on the set of Jolie’s latest film, Salt. (In Touch agrees that Pitt visited the set of Salt, but quotes a “pal” who says “they’re just going through the motions for appearance’s sake”.)
For Mother’s Day, “Brad gave Angelina inscribed jewellery,” People adds. A “friend” provides the article’s closing quote: “They are very, very happy.”
GUARDIAN
ReplyThe thing about Angelina is that if you look closely at her when she does interviews there is an inherant
Replynasitieness a kind of cold soulessness about her,I think her looks are deceptive because they lull people into
a false sense of security with her.I definately think her & Brad were doomed from the start,she is and always has been a lesbian(take a look at the motorbike girl Jenny something & tell me if a girl who was even slightly straight could be attracted to her.)Also read her past interviews & watch her in the begining of the bone collector & other movies(I dont mean to be calling out gay people but some things do show)
Angelinas looks make people want to believe good things about her.The truth is not pretty at all!
Oh yeah I just looked at the different looks & they show me that without the nose reshaping Angelina
Replywould not look so good,she had a bigger nose that matched her lips ,she’s just another hollywood fake
her kids that look like her will mysteriously have larger noses…
Also I think she may take after her formerly estranged father,Jon Voight has always given me the creeps its like something is just not quite what it seems there,he ’s like a man with secrets…Angelina & James get that freaky DNA from somewhere.
ReplyIan said before that she reads this site ….I hope so…If you are reading this ,your fall from grace is rapidly
Replyapproaching but hey just think of all the poor children & people you can still help.
@cassie:
Since he’s one of my all-time favorite actors, I’d buy a good bio of him. But who would tell the truth about him?
He once campaigned for Democratic presidential candidates. Now, he’s a sometimes lunatic right-winger!
I did see him once. He was supposed to give a speech. He spoke slowly, softly, and there were quite a few extra long pauses in his presentation. Nothing exciting, there.
ReplyThe Truth Will Set You Free……Always
Reply@alif:
ReplyI just don’t know what it is,but remeber how he publicly called her mentally unstable,maybe he feared what what she would do or say,the Oscar thing with her brother & the interviews must have been very embarrasing
for a seemingly conservative guy,who knows…
Someone mention Reese Witherspoon making 15 million $
ReplyWhats with that ,does she have fans?
Little miss A type films
Personally I can’t believe that such a brittle prissy girl was born this century. obnoxious.
but then again I might be alone on this.
@ Mia – ha ha Mia, I wondered how you would come back at me at that and I was not disappointed! Sweetheart it’s ok, I know how stupid you felt there, saying things that were so patently false and getting called out on it. Seems like you went for the default position of “Keane is a meanie” and I am such a good human being – ha ha! Have you had a sudden case of amnesia too Mia? Did you forget how your post contained the charming insult of “a president wouldn’t waste a second on YOU Keane”, with capitals for childish emphasis of course?! Oh and sorry but I did not quite understand what the relevance was of you saying “when I was referring to presidents I did not meam your college education”? What you said was a president would not waste a single second on me, and I said utter rubbish! Then you said I only met him because I knew Chelsea? I have never met her in my life! The circumstances of me meeting him I have already explained and they had absolutely NOTHING to do with her? But seeing as you think you’re so superior to me Mia, tell me: when did you last meet Bill Clinton and what was the reason for your meeting him? Were you advising him on disaster relief too?
Oh and as for the “Angelina Jolie as Ambassador to the UN” argument, um well as we all know, Angelina is just one of hundreds of them, including Miley Cyrus and obscure British TV presenters such as Magenta de Vine! It’s such an honour! Um and Mia did it ever occur to you that after the greatest natural disaster in recent times, the UN would more than likely already be in Haiti? Probably some considerable time before Ms Jolie showed up in fact! Do you honestly think they need a HW actress to do a quick tour round and tell them what she saw? Mia do you understand how stupid you look with that statement? The UN were more than aware of what Jolie was seeing before she got there because they more than likely organised it, including her whistle-stop tour! Are you honestly that naïve and foolish to think Jolie was there on a fact-finding mission to report back to a serious organisation like the UN? She went there to get some good publicity following all the very damaging stuff that’s been written about her in the press. Her “UN goodwill ambassador” gig is a way of trying to whitewash her image, which is why she did that as opposed to flashing her flesh. Not everyone in HW needs to whitewash their image like Jolie does so they don’t need to exploit humanitarian work to this end. So yes, Jen Aniston can just stick to the usual PR schtick of doing sexy magazine covers just like Jolie (remember all those covers where jolie has her breasts out: vanity fair, W mag breastfeeding etc?). She doesn’t have to work so hard to convince the world she is not a nasty bit of work like Jolie!
ReplyYuck, all pics of Angelina gross me out, and seeing her self serving visit to Haiti especially repels me, trust, she is neither wanted nor needed in that devastated country, and the only reason she visited was to shore up all the “angie believers” and how can any of you think she is “saintly”? Paleeze! Here’s what I need to remember and I’m sure you all will know, but what was the nasty comment her mother left via her will to Jon Voight?? Does anyone remember that? Why did it not get more notice than it did? I mean, the apple def doesn’t fall far from the tree in re. Angie and her mother..who while on their death bed, hoping to transcend into the next part of life, thinks of only being nasty to the man who, what? fooled around on her? paleeze, her daughter does the same, and Jon obviouslly supported his family….I think Angie is much like her mother in MANY ways…and who also taught her the “I love my brother so much right now” way of living?? Ummm, could it be her mother again?? There is something so not right with her mother, and it seems to have dripped down into Angelina’s DNA…dear god, I pitty her kids with Brad, not Brad himself ’cause he asked for all the craziness…
Reply@keane cyber queen supreme:
Really Keane you make it difficult to figure out wether you are dumb or wether you just ACT dumb on purpose! Were the hell did I say you were friends with Chelsey? I only mentioned that when talking about official meetings with a president – I was referrering to Jolie meeting with the president of the Dominic Republic (and other presidents whom she has met on her UNHCR travels) in her function as a goodwill ambassador for the UNHCR – not the UN Keane – in contrast to your college experience of meeting Clinton while he “did stuff for a charity you were supporting with your school ball” in his function as a parent of Chelsey. Not quite the same but I see the difference is too diffult for you to grasp.
Now go on and hate Jolie Keane. We all know for whatever reason that makes you feel better!
Reply@lory:
Ha ha! Keep trying Mia, I can see you’re struggling! SO funny. Ok so sweetheart, let’s go through this again for your benefit one more time:
The UNHCR is a part of the UN sweetheart, you knew that right?
And I met Bill Clinton while I was at college due to his involvement with a charitable cause supporting young people WHICH HAD NOTHING WHATSOEVER TO DO WITH CHELSEA CLINTON, WHO I HAVE NEVER MET AND I DID NOT GO TO THE SAME COLLEGE AS, JUST THE SAME UNIVERSITY. If you are aware of the collegiate system at Oxford and Cambridge you will know that the 30 odd colleges within each university are in fierce competition with each other, we don’t support each other’s endeavours. As Chelsea Clinton did not go to the same college as me her dad was not just showing up and supporting his daughter’s college (as you would like to write it off as!), he was supporting the work a group of people from a completely different college were doing with regard to democratising university admissions. Nothing whatsoever to do with Chelsea as she was not at the same college as me, but you knew that already as you know everything about everything even when you have no experience or knowledge of it whatsoever right? Stop me if this is getting too complicated for you!
So your argument was that “a president wouldn’t waste a second on me” – it was completely irrelevant to what was being discussed but hey when has that ever stopped you before – and that Angelina was somehow better than me because she got her picture taken with a president. (Not that I was ever entering into a competition with her in the first place but this seems to be the only thing you could think of to say). And what I’m saying is, lots of people meet presidents Mia, and get their picture taken with them. Some people are actually doing something to justify that meeting, not just promoting themselves. Oh and by the way, when was the last time you met a president and for what reason Mia? For some reason you forgot to mention it in your last post, can’t think why that might be! (Cue the “a week sight-seeing in Thailand with a week on the beach-esque type story…).
Reply@lory:
Oh and the spelling Mia, the spelling! For the love of God please use the spellcheck function on word before you make your next post! “Whether” has an “H” in it, “Chelsea” Clinton spells her name with an “A” on the end, not a “Y”, and where also has an “H” in it, it is not “were” as you keep writing. It would make your posts just a tiny bit more credible (and let’s face it, you need all the credibility you can get) if you could just get the spelling of some basic words right!
Reply@Keane Cyber Queen Supreme:
Thanks for the heads up on the vid with CNN. I posted it for students to see how not to answer what you don’t know with what you do (padding). There were a lot of non-specifics given where I was expecting solid info given the training, conference attending and years of being an ambassador AJ has had who has stated she is reporting back to the UN~
As usual, I am disappointed with her. And now at an academic level too ~:-)
And there were some cringe moments~ Especially the first question~ Why are you here~ and that embarrassing comment by the journalist “presumably you are here for a reason”. Personally, I think Christine was having digs at her a few times across the interview.
Reply@@lory:
ReplySorry, Keane wins, go away….and yes, I even knew the UNHCR was a part of the UN duh! How much do the “Jolie’s-Pitt” clan pay you, btw?
Keane, I really enjoy reading your posts. You’re smart and I like your logic.
ReplyIf u compare 23 years old Angelina with 23 years old Megan Fox, Megan Fox ia better looking, would win in beauty. Yet we don’t how Megan will look in 34.
ReplyIf u compare 23 years old Angelina with 23 years old Megan Fox, Megan Fox ia better looking, would win in beauty. Yet, we don’t how Megan will look in 34.
Reply@nicky:
ReplyIf you have seen the photos that came out today of Angie in Venice, with the visable plastic surgery webbing, I think you will agree that it probably won’t matter what Megan looks like at 34. Megan would more than likely win any such contest. LOL
@Keane Cyber Queen Supreme:
ReplyYou forgot to add that it would not be likely that the UN would be waiting on the advice of a high school drop out before acting. Absolutely no offence, very tongue in cheek, but I never thought I would see the day where I could add to a Keane post. LOL This joke is a tribute to your thoroughness.
Whats plastic surgery webbing?
ReplyWhy do some of my comments disapear?? is it because I can’ spell or do they really suck! do you remove them Ian or is it my new computer F******* with me? Does anyone know why my essays are being removed/lost please help ME I”M SO SAD…
Replywhat kind of plastic surgery did she have to produce that webbing? I mean, it’s gross, and why isn’t Ian putting that pic on here???
ReplyGreat stuff. ianundercover.com rocks.
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