Anti-Abortion Ad Causing Controversy at Super Bowl

Posted on February 6th, 2010 by HisHighness in IUC:Bits, IUC:Entertainment

pro-life-cartoonThe only logic I can see here is that they’re airing this ad because so many hot young chicks will get banged up at parties here this weekend and won’t know what to do when their pregnancy test is positive. Seriously folks, this right wing Bush, bible loving douche Tebow should be ashamed. (BBC News)

  1. mooki said on February 6th, 2010 at 10:07 am

    is it just pure coincidence that this shitstorm is happening after the psycho Teaparty “Convention” w/ Palin and her sparring w/ Limbaugh? talk about the left fringe

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  2. Pattyanne said on February 6th, 2010 at 11:16 am

    Everyone has a right to be heard, within limits of the law and society; however, inciteful ads at a testosterone filled macho sport is not the right forum for such an ad. There are high tempers with the competetion, drinking, and in general strong emotions running already. To bring into the mix a known hot topic is suicide. There is a time and a place for everything and a wise person chooses their battles.

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  3. Kate said on February 6th, 2010 at 1:05 pm

    @Pattyanne:
    Well said Patty!

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  4. pickwick said on February 6th, 2010 at 1:18 pm

    @Pattyanne:
    As usual, you nailed it pattyanne.
    There’s a time and place and the super bowl isn’t it.

    Uh…anyone see the photo of Lady Gaga carrying around a baby? She is dressed like a regular person.
    It’s on Radaronline. I only mention it because…..well……carrying around a baby…..I wasn’t ready to believe this Gaga Angie stuff. I think someone could be pulling Ian’s leg. But then I see her toting a baby without the costumes…..

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  5. alif said on February 6th, 2010 at 2:33 pm

    While I’m a “middle-of-the-road” voter; I have to say that I’m anti=abortion. But, yes, I agree that the Super Bowl is not the place. If it is, then of course they should not turn down that gay ad.

    And the reason I’m against abortion, is that there may be potential great and good powers that are not being born. And I’m happy that my mother did not practice abortion.
    It’s up to the individual and his/her God. Cause everyone has a God!
    Now, this is just my belief!

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  6. section9 said on February 6th, 2010 at 3:12 pm

    Whilst Tebow Tears should have probably thought of a more appropriate venue for a pro-life commercial, I’m somewhat surprised that Ian of all people believes that Tebow should be ashamed for holding an opinion contrary to his own. Political disagreement should not be a source of shame, and it continues to amaze me the way Obamist fanboys insist that their moral standards are the only appropriate ones to hold in the public square. One of the reasons that the popularity of the Regime has continued to decline over the past year has been its apparent intolerance for opinions and convictions that differ from those of the Ruling Party and its acolytes.

    Tim Tebow should be ashamed for his subpar performance against the Crimson Tide and their Evil Coach, Nick Saban, the spawn of Beelzebub His Bad Self, but not for holding an opinion that the Chattering Classes find unpopular. Tebow will, in all likelihood, not be the Second Coming of Johnny Unitas. That said, he will do fine by his own standards, if no one else’s.

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  7. Tamara said on February 6th, 2010 at 3:14 pm

    @Pattyanne:
    Well, there simply isn’t anything more to be said as you have so succinctly managed to say it all! Muah!!

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  8. Tamara said on February 6th, 2010 at 3:57 pm

    @pickwick:
    I saw that too, and posted a side by side picture of Knox, Kate thinks the baby is too young to be Knox, what do you think? I’ve never seen CaCa without all her makeup and crazy over the top outfits, she kind of reminds me of a cross between Amy Winehouse and Bette Midler in the face. Kind of left field isn’t it, going out shopping like that holding a baby boy in her arms, what are they playing at?

    IAN- do you know what this is all about?? Who is the baby that looks just enough like Knox to be confusing, who is it?

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  9. cuze said on February 6th, 2010 at 5:16 pm

    @Pattyanne:
    Bravo lady! Well said.

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  10. Keane Cyber Queen Supreme said on February 6th, 2010 at 6:41 pm

    The anti-abortion league is something which, fortunately, does not hold much sway in the UK. I am sure there are people opposed to it, but they don’t go around campaigning with placades outside abortion clinics and so on too often, thankfully. The anti-abortion league is one thing I would say that casts “Americans” in a not too favourable light in countries like the UK. (And yes, unfortunately a small minority does impact on the way people perceive the majority). We just don’t have this neo-conservative, religious fundamentalist element over this side of the pond, we are a much more moderate society in general. It is one of the things – like gun ownership, the death penalty, the political far right, the lack of universal heath care and so on – that makes the US seem like a strange and scary place for a lot of Europeans. I admit, before I made so many American online friends, my view of people in your country was, like a lot of Brits, quite negative! And unfortunately for a lot of people I think this remains the case. I, on the other hand, now get really excited when I hear an American accent in London and want to go up to them and ask what part of the US they are from in case it is near my cyber friend Kate, Patty Anne, Togi or Tam etc! You bunch have educated me a great deal in as far as Americans are concerned, for which I am very grateful. Although I have to say, when I think of you all speaking, in my mind you probably all have British accents! Lol

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  11. kristy said on February 6th, 2010 at 7:30 pm

    erm… this looks a bit sarcastic though, no? or maybe its because im european and if we’d see this in a newspaper, it could only be sarcastic, so excuse me if im wrong…

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  12. mooki said on February 6th, 2010 at 8:21 pm

    @pickwick:

    i think she was mocking Tila Tequila, who was seen in LA a few weeks ago w/ a baby doll (Tila’s blabbing on twitter that she’s pregnant by her late lover Casey Johnson, then she’s not, and so on. perfect example of delusional d-lister)

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  13. warez crack said on February 6th, 2010 at 8:29 pm

    Where can I find the money sound effects for Money by Pink Floyd?

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  14. joanne said on February 6th, 2010 at 9:20 pm

    I wouldn’t have an abortion but I’m pro choice. No one knows the circumstances that the pregnancy occcured or what is going on in the females life at the time and they deserve a place to go that is safe and legal. The super bowl isn’t the place for this. Only in America can you see Bristol Palin on TV saying she won’t have sex before marriage and her mother the quitter standing there grinning like a loon. I think it would have sounded more truthful if Bristol Palin was holding her son when she said this. Are we that disallusioned over here or is our heads in the sand?

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  15. Vittoria said on February 6th, 2010 at 9:32 pm

    @Keane Cyber Queen Supreme:
    Oh Keane that was so beautifully put! Are you sure we can’t ship you just a few of our lovely Yanks? Not many I promise, maybe just Palin and Rush Limbaugh and Cheney. You could sink them with the Loch Ness monster.

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  16. Vittoria said on February 6th, 2010 at 9:33 pm

    @kristy:
    No sadly, we have some real whack jobs in this country.

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  17. Kimmy said on February 7th, 2010 at 2:35 am

    Section9
    I see you are not a Nick Saban fan either! I am an Auburn fan. Who is your team, and why all the Saban hatred?!?

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  18. Togi said on February 7th, 2010 at 6:00 am

    @Keane Cyber Queen Supreme:
    Keane … I’m giving you my BEST British accent. G’day mate. Oh … wait!!!! That was my Aussie accent. Uhhhhh. Meow! Dang it. That was cat! I have far too many dialects! How about … MUWAH! XOXOXOXO. You’re so stinking cute I just wanna smack you! :-)

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  19. keane cyber queen supreme said on February 7th, 2010 at 7:57 am

    @ Vittoria – well I figure we sent most of them over to you (and I actually grew up in a village near plymouth so know those steps only too well!), so I guess the least we can do is take a few of the faulty ones back for an exchange. Only question is who would you take instead? Your options aren’t exactly good!

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  20. keane cyber queen supreme said on February 7th, 2010 at 8:00 am

    @ Togi – how about “how do you do” and “how do you take you tea”. (Popular amongst the queen and friends but not so much as us commoners but it’s a start!) Xx

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  21. mooki said on February 7th, 2010 at 8:24 am

    @Vittoria:

    did any of you see Palin’s Teabag Convention speech last night on CNN (or elsewhere)? she can’t even speech a full sentence, that woman… those nutjobs in the audience screaming “Run Sarah Run” (I doubt she’s gonna run for prez)

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  22. Vittoria said on February 7th, 2010 at 9:30 am

    @mooki:
    It breaks my heart to see so much stupidity in this country. That said, I hope she does run. It should make it a little easier for the Dem’s in 2012 with such a whack job on the ticket (unless they rig the election again).

    Keane – let see – who would we take from the UK? Well according to Ian in the Daily mail Angelina is looking to snag Prince William. Damn, that is funny. Do you think she has a shot?

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  23. mooki said on February 7th, 2010 at 9:39 am

    @Vittoria:

    speaking of Brad and Angie, Brad and Maddox were seen @ LAX en route to Miami for the Super Bowl:
    http://justjared.buzznet.com/2010/02/06/brad-pitt-maddox-headed-to-the-super-bowl/
    (this all but confirms it)

    meanwhile Jen Aniston is in Cabo w/ the Arquettes and Sheryl Crow:
    http://justjared.buzznet.com/2010/02/06/jennifer-aniston-cabo-bikini-babe/

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  24. mooki said on February 7th, 2010 at 9:41 am

    @Vittoria:

    didn’t he and Britney have a night together during her oops i did it again years?

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  25. pickwick said on February 7th, 2010 at 10:19 am

    @Keane Cyber Queen Supreme:
    That’s because England got tired of the Puritans trying to close down theater productions (evil, you know) and encouraged them to get on a boat and go away somewhere, anwhere, how about the new world? The English must have been thrilled to see them set sail, and they faced a world where they would have to spend a little more time surviving than just bossing people around.
    We’re stuck with them, and they wear me out. I wish I could put them on a boat and send them back to England, but I doubt you want them back.
    I like what alif said about differentiating her personal beliefs about abortion from people who carry gruesome signs where children can see them. I just read an article about North Dakota which became ground zero in the debate for some years. The local townspeople, no matter what their personal views, were deeply offended by the disgusting imagery on the signs and the confrontational angry people.
    People were decending onto their small town in large numbers. They were very unhappy about it all. They are sickened about the local doctor who was murdered at church.
    I think most Americans are like alif and me. We have our beliefs but we still live in a polite society where it is rude to bring up politics and religion at the dinner table. Everyone is supposed to be polite about the other’s belief system. The people holding up these signs might as well be holding up huge signs of their gallbaladder operations. I don’t want to see it. And it doesn’t sway me. It just makes me more aware of how many unhinged, rude, psychotic, intrusive and arrogant people there are here. At least they are a minority.
    Sure you don’t want them back, Keane? Please?
    These are the same people who would tether women to chains in the yards for various infractions. The same Puritans who had a big problem with people running away from their strict, overbearing, superstitious (witch burning) communities that they would go live with the Native Americans to get away–marrying into local tribes and glad to get away.
    The Puritans are the group who hated Shakespeare. That alone says enough.

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  26. Vittoria said on February 7th, 2010 at 10:19 am

    @mooki:
    I don’tknow about that. I do feel pretty confident in saying that he would look at AJ as an old lady. Come on, he is surrounded by young nubile chickies (and then there is Kate M), so she would probably be pretty high on the gross factor for him.

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  27. joanne said on February 7th, 2010 at 11:22 am

    Why do they bother to give Palin air time? They are idolizing a quitter. Why doesn’t PETA go after Palin? Theres a story for you Mr. Halperin. Palin the Jolie of Politics. Why are people so willing to spread hate and greed?

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  28. Kate said on February 7th, 2010 at 12:22 pm

    Hi all, no comments on this really. Super Bowl Sunday.

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  29. Tamara said on February 7th, 2010 at 12:51 pm

    @Keane Cyber Queen Supreme:
    Awwww Keane – I don’t know, I think its such a double standard that the British seem to hate Americans so much and yet they consume American products at an alarming rate. I’ve talked to my step daughter about this quite a lot, she gets a lot of guff from her friends for spending so much time in America, and yet they are the first ones running home to watch some American television show, or eating at McDonalds, or wearing Nikes or Levis – its such a double standard IMO. I’ve asked her what her favorite shows are and they are all American shows. And as far as no National Health well IMO that is a good thing. My family is from England, my husband from Scotland and I’ve seen too many people die of curable diseases on National Health – you can wait for years for a bypass surgery – you can die of anything if you are over 65 because they consider them too old to fix! They yank out perfectly good teeth instead of fixing them properly. For years, too many young healthy British people were willing to sit home and collect the dole instead of working which has created a nation of lazy people with a sense of entitlement due them, getting paid for doing nothing, having their housing provided to them by the government. I’m not saying America is perfect, far from it, but we dont sit around hating Britain like they do us. The Brits have an unhealthy dislike for Americans, to me it just smacks of jealousy, not fear.

    As for the anti abortion league, the right wingers etc. while I may not agree with them, the right to freedom is what this country was based on, the people have a right to their beliefs, a right to practive their religions and they have the power of choice – they also have a right to become as rich as possible or as poor as possible, it works both ways, but the fact remains, we have that choice. They left England for that very reason, the right to choose and live their lives without the tyranny of a Monarchy that today sits on an archaic throne without power or purpose; a figurehead that continues to milk the country dry to this very day.

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  30. mooki said on February 7th, 2010 at 1:01 pm

    @mooki:

    http://www.dlisted.com/node/35971/images/spl156009_015.jpg
    looks like Gerard Butler’s there, too.

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  31. Tamara said on February 7th, 2010 at 1:05 pm

    @Tamara:
    And one more thing while Im still sitting on my soap box, I am a first generation American, aside from my immediate family all my relatives live in England, I have been going back and forth from the US to the UK all my life, my Grandfather was a third generation pub owner that has been in my family for 4 generations and still exists in a little Kent village to this day. So I do have some knowledge of the UK and am not totally talking out of my butt.

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  32. Keane Cyber Queen Supreme said on February 7th, 2010 at 1:45 pm

    @Tamara:

    Hm well I wouldn’t say that the consumption of American products can necessarily be described as a choice by people in the UK. American multi-nationals have come to the UK and aggressively pushed their products on British people with highly sophisticated marketing, branding and advertising and made people think that we should buy Nike, buy Starbucks and buy McDonalds and not homegrown brands. In some instances they are undercutting UK companies on price (McDonalds for one) and British versions of the same company die out. And again with television shows, the people of the UK don’t have a great deal of control over what is broadcast on TV. The only control they have is to not watch a show, but if enough people are watching it then it will be broadcast regardless. But as I said before, it is not these things that make British people dislike America and, by association, Americans so much. It is they way it conducts itself politically and in business, and the very right wing views of a large proportion of it’s people which you simply do not get in the UK. Here we are a much more politically moderate country and much more left-wing in general. We just do not have a faction of society like the Republican element in the US, and the fact that so many people agree with the views of such a right-wing party is a very scary concept to us. Plus you also have to remember that the UK is a predominantly atheist or agnostic country and we have a very different attitude to religion than you do in the US. The old maxim that “you can’t get elected without God in the US, and you can’t with God” is absolutely true. Tony Blair was told not to talk about his religious beliefs in the run up to the election and for most of his career as Prime Minister in order to avoid alienating the electorate. Thus a country that is so much more religious than we are, and has some very right-wing religious factions in it’s society is a scary thing to a lot of Brits. Particularly ones like me whose sexuality may be condemned by a lot of these people (something which makes me extremely angry for obvious reasons). And even on a more superficial level, when we see American pop stars or whatever thanking God when they win an MTV music award or something we just think it is bizarre and ridiculous. To us, if there was such a thing as God, He would probably be too busy with something that really matters than to help Beyonce win a grammy or whatever! These are just some of the things that we find strange or bizarre about US society. Another one is gun control. People in general do not own firearms in the UK and it personally scares the bejesus out of me and most people in the UK that so many people do in the US. We genuinely cannot understand it when after a massacre in a high school, no even thinks of changing the laws on gun control so these people cannot get their hands on a weapon so easily. Yes, this bemuses us and scares the living daylights out of us, it really does.

    Which is not to say that our society is better than yours or perfect, and I agree that we have our own problems with the dependence of a lot of people on the state and the deficiencies in the health care system, but given the choice I would rather have this problem than have one person die because they cannot afford healthcare, or starve or end up on the streets because their benefits have run out. The idea that benefits stop after 6 months of being unemployed is absolutely alien to someone living in the UK and frankly terrifying. As are the stories you hear about people not being able to afford to pay for absolutely essential surgery. Say what you like about the NHS, and it does have it’s faults, most of the time it does provide for your health care needs. And in an emergency or if you needed vital surgery, 9 times out of 10 it will provide it when you need it.

    So yes, all societies have their weaknesses and their strengths, and people will always favour one system over the other. The reality is British society is very different to the US, even though we share a lot of cultural elements like TV shows and brands as you say, our values are very different. I lived with an American girl once who said she felt UK society was more caring than US society and that the focus was more about doing your best at something than being the winner – and that is definitely what we are all taught in school and maybe why we are not that competitive a nation at sport! So anyway, I don’t know, before I started commenting on here I never thought I would have that much in common with a lot of Americans or have them as friends. Least of all fundamentalist Christian friends from Sarah Palin country like Togi! So unfortunately I think it is true to say that Americans in general get tarred with the same brush as small minority groups as these are obvioulsy the more newsworthy stories. But then I guess we are all characterised as tea-sipping, rotten-toothed toffs (and this is often the way we are characterised in American films, we are nothing like that in reality, we are way more mundane and average than that!). So anyway, just a few thoughts on the Anglo-American divide, which may help to explain our differences of thnking to yours. As for the abortion thing well I went to write a bit about my thoughts on that, but then thought it wasn’t really apppropriate to talk about on a gossip blog. It’s far too potentially inflammatory. But suffice to say I am pro a woman’s right to choose and feel that it is not for someone who is 100% guaranteed to be never be in that situation to dictate to another what they should or shouldn’t do in it. And that is where I will leave that topic!

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  33. Keane Cyber Queen Supreme said on February 7th, 2010 at 1:49 pm

    @Keane Cyber Queen Supreme:

    That was meant to say “you can’t get elected in the US without God, and you can’t get elected with it in the UK” of course – otherwise that sentence makes no sense whatsoever!

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  34. Keane Cyber Queen Supreme said on February 7th, 2010 at 2:08 pm

    @Vittoria:

    If he wanted to marry Jolie he would have to abdicate. We still have issues with a future King marring a divorcee (hence Prince Charles’ marriage to Diana and not his actual love, Camilla all those years ago), let alone a self-confessed drug addict with six children by another man and mental health problems. T’will not happen. And I can’t see it happening with a politician either for the very same reasons. (Carla Bruni has always been slightly more discreet about her predilections). The best she can hope for is a business magnate. I hear Simon Cowell is available. Just a thought!

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  35. Tamara said on February 7th, 2010 at 2:13 pm

    @Keane Cyber Queen Supreme:
    Oh I know exactly what you are saying, and I understand your point of view completely too! I definitely see the pros and cons of both sides. I just get so tired of the constant America bashing – I mean, when you consider that you could probably fit the whole UK into California it gives you an idea of the massiveness of our country. And consider that this whole country was wilderness Spanish or Indian territory up to 400 years ago, the strength it took for those pioneers to actually carve civilization into this wild and massive country has got to be awe inspiring even to a Brit! LOL I mean, you have houses three times older then that, you’re country has been “civilized” for 1000’s of years, so when you think about it, we are still babies in diapers and yet we are “the most powerful country in the world” – that did not happen by accident, it happened by hard work and determination. Americans know what it means to work and to work hard, so if they are a bit brash well, yes maybe we are, but look what we as a nation have been able to accomplish in such a short amount of time! Anyway, it’s been great talking to you today (in my American accent hahaha) about something totally different then the Brange! LOL xoxoxox

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  36. Kate said on February 7th, 2010 at 2:37 pm

    @Keane Cyber Queen Supreme:
    She will find someone, maybe ambassador , someone. Who would think she would get this far, and you have to remember, not everyone knows or believes all the things we have read , know. etc. There are many who feel Angelina is bright, articulate, dedicated, compassionate. You ask who, one example …Colin Powell. and there is a whole list right behind him.

    People that have worked with her with the UN missions discount all the Hollywood gossip, they don’t care about any of that, anymore than a serious golfer gives two cents about how many ho’s Tiger has boinked, they care he gets back to the tournaments, and drives them back up. The people that work with Jolie care that the work is achieved, and they believe that the rest is just gossip and nonsense. They will chuck the rest up to her failing relationship and cut her slack til she gets it together.

    We live in a world were a half ass sorry pulls it off. Look at the list . Spitzer, Kobe, Tyson, Edwards, Gibson, the dog killer, what was his name. Trump, and on and on and on. Angelina may not ever be a Oscar winning actress but if she hooks with some dignitary and sees herself as the next Carla Bruni she will probably not care.She will think she is above it all then.

    Then we will see the camps arguing , oh Brad is just a actor, a Producer, drinking with his friends, go to games, and Vegas, while Angie is saving the world, she is important because she is Mrs…blah blah. sound familiar.

    My prediction…will get her shit together and pull it off. He may not even be American, and probably will not be.

    So far she is still on track with Josephine Baker. jmo

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  37. Tamara said on February 7th, 2010 at 3:05 pm

    @Kate:
    With her predilection for France, why doesn’t she pursue Prince Albert of Monaco? Or, is he not a big enough political player for her? I’m thinking maybe a Kennedy….John would have been perfect for her if he had lived – he loved the HW gals

    IDK Kate – today seems to be my day for controversy, but I don’t see her bouncing back from this, but I do agree that politicians don’t seem to mind the Hollywood rumor mill as much as the rest of the populace. So it will be interesting how she plays this one out.

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  38. Tamara said on February 7th, 2010 at 3:11 pm

    My vote is for Patrick Kennedy – Teddy’s son. He’s 43, never been married, no stanger to drugs, sought rehab for cocaine and oxycontin abuse, he IS a Kennedy so he loves the HW girls – Rhode Island Senator – being groomed for bigger things……Angie – here is your guy! Go for it! LOL

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  39. Keane Cyber Queen Supreme said on February 7th, 2010 at 3:18 pm

    @Tamara:

    Ha ha, yes I think the crux of the matter is that the vast majority of Brits have never been to the US and don’t know any Americans other than the ones we see on the news, TV shows, films and those in the music industry and we form our opinions on that basis! And as I said before, I think it is the case that we tend to get the most extreme sectors of American society shown on television because that is what makes it newsworthy and of interest to a British audience. If you were just like us in a particular area then it would never be talked about because no-one would care. Which reminds me of another thing that really influences our perception of the US in the UK: law and order. We simply do not have things like the ghettos which I am told you have in every major city and we don’t have the whole scary organised crime, gangster thing either which seems to be so widespread. We have rough council estates, we have some organised crime and problems with gangs of youths and knife crime, but on nothing like the scale you seem to have in the US. From programmes I’ve watched there seem to be places in cities which are franky lawless (the ghettos I mean), which I find terrifying! Your prisons also seem similarily terrifying with as extreme gang activity and violence going on inside them as there is on the outside. Plus a lot of prisoners seem to be treated and locked up like animals, which makes them act even more like animals themselves! UK jails seem like kindly hostels in comparison!

    So yes, us UK folks are always a bit bewildered and sometimes dismayed by the way things are in the US. It seems like it is just more of an extreme society in general. You are one of the world’s wealthiest and most successful and powerful nations but the people at the bottom seem to have it worse than they do in places like the UK. We are no way near as powerful or successful as you but we feel our society is more fair to the people at the bottom than the system treats those people in the US. Which is not to say we aren’t proud and impressed by what America achieves – we are the mother ship after all (as my American housemate used to say – but I guess like any parent we can sometimes also be critical of the way our offspring behaves! Oh and another big difference is of course the fact that we have a class system which influences the way we think a lot, and this is not so much the case in the US. In the UK for example it is very much not the done thing to talk about money (something I learnt very quickly when I met all the posh types at college!), whereas in the US having financial wealth is something that people are very vocal about and proud of (the whole concept of “bling” comes from the US after all). So yes, the snobby part of the Brit identity finds that side of American culture quite distasteful too. Which is not to say that that is right, it is just the way we are brought up to think. So many differences, so interesting, I could go on about this all night, but I won’t! Lol

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  40. Tamara said on February 7th, 2010 at 3:55 pm

    @Keane Cyber Queen Supreme:
    Well, I think due to technology our world is getting smaller and smaller and especially the UK and the US which seem to be melding quite alot don’t you think? We have just as many Brit actors winning Oscars now as we do Americans, and probably the same at the BARTA’s, that is a relatively new development don’t you think? There are as many Americans who live in small town USA who are just as scared of the “hood” and the gangs as you are…the thing about the US is that it is soooooo massive in size, that every state you go to has a totally unique demographic and culture. The folks in South Carolina wouldn’t understand a New Yorkers way of life and a New Yorker thinks that anywhere outside their island is syberia, so we have these huge differences just within our own country…so its not as easy to lump all Americans into one category as it would be a country as small as the UK. I remember when Dynasty was really big in the 80s and I was in England and this bloke in the pub got really belligerant with me because he literally thought all Americans were like Dynasty!!! Hilarious, but again, the world was a smaller place then. LOL And there are still cultures in US who find it vulgar to talk about money here too, the very very rich who think any talk of money is neveau riche and vulgar, and they have their Blue Book class system very similar to that of the UK. Even in Palm Beach as late as the 70’s they would close the bridge at sundown, all servants had to be on the other side (West Palm) before it got dark……so there are some similarities for sure!!

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  41. Keane Cyber Queen Supreme said on February 7th, 2010 at 4:08 pm

    @Kate:

    Yep have to agree with Tam here, I don’t think Angelina can really be considered in the same way as those men you listed for one reason and one reason alone really: she is a woman, and women just do not get away with the things that men do. The problem for Angelina is that she has to make herself appeal to women. Men are a no-brainer of course, she has done enough photoshoots in which she has given what can only be described as “about to give someone a blow-job face” to have the male market sewn up (and don’t even get me started on the ones where she has her legs spread wide-open and half her fake tits out too – like I said the male audience is a given). Appealing to women, on the other hand, has been a very difficult balancing act for her PR people to pull off. The upshot of which has been all the children of course. Problem now is, the excusing away of the homewrecking with the “he is the love of my life/soulmate and I am the mother of his SIX KIDS” angle is about to come very unstuck and people will not be fooled by it, especially women. The comments by posters under the NOTW divorce story were very telling in my opinion in terms of how she is going to be perceived by the female contingent of the public when the split is announced. The key words were “selfish”, “irresponsible”, “immoral” and “insane” I believe. Brad was roasted too, but the worst words were reserved for her and her alone. I am going to go out on a limb and say I guarantee her people will not be able to spin her out of this. They have already used every trick in the book and it is not working. People have wised up to it and there just isn’t anywhere else for her people to go with it now, they may be smart but they cannot perform miracles and they would have to to achieve this.

    When it comes to her humanitarian ambassadorship, she is only useful to these organisations when she is popular. When she isn’t they will drop her like a bag of cold sick (as they say). All those organisations care about is furthering their cause, like you say, which means they will not stay loyal to her when she is no longer useful to them. They will simply move on to the next big thing, Kristen Stewart for example. And as for the people who support her, well if Colin Powell is an example of the calibre of her backers then I think she is going to have problems. Is Colin Powell respected in the US? Because he sure as hell ain’t in Europe, like anyone associated with Dubya really. Jolie may retain some popularity in the US if she decides to go the Republican route, but it will be curtains for her in the rest of the world (which has always been what she cares most about obviously, not her own backyard, the states). As Tam and I were just discussing, there are some pretty key reasons which provoke anti-American feeling around the world, and the Bush administration and the Republican party are without doubt the most significant one of all. Opposing Obama and going Republican will not make her appealing to people outside the US, in fact, it will make her even more hated. So a quick word to the wise (in other words, Geyer), launch Republican Angelina at your peril. It is the one thing absolutely guaranteed to sink her, no question.

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  42. Tamara said on February 7th, 2010 at 4:10 pm

    And as for the guns being part of our culture ( I am not a gun owner, nor do I hunt or fish) but, as little as 100 years ago the law was upheld by the Sherriff with a GUN, disputes were settled by gunfire, settlements were protected by gunfire, food was provided by gunfire, we had settlers forge across to the West and protected themselves against anyone and everyone with gunfire – so that is where our gun culture comes from. Your country has had 1,000 years to work their way out of killing each other on horseback with swords, we’ve only had a 100 measly years!!

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  43. Keane Cyber Queen Supreme said on February 7th, 2010 at 4:11 pm

    @Tamara:

    Oh God don’t give them ideas – he sounds like a perfect match for skank features! That being said though I don’t think she would be a perfect match for him. I’m sure he will have been advised to steer clear of someone with such a similar history to him as Angelina at all costs. He doesn’t want to remind the world about his past by comparison now does he? Political types are even smarter than HW ones after all!

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  44. Keane Cyber Queen Supreme said on February 7th, 2010 at 4:16 pm

    @Tamara:

    True! Why don’t people see how important it is to try to change it though? Why do people still use an amendment drawn up in times of civil war to justify gun-ownership as if they are still living in the wild west?! Why doesn’t anyone in the US ever shoot this argument down (no pun intended!) with something that seems like such a no-brainer to people outside the US? It is yet another thing that utterly bewilders us about American culture! Oh and don’t even get me started on that Charlton Heston and the pro-gun lobby or whatever they are called – arghhh!! Lol

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  45. Tamara said on February 7th, 2010 at 4:16 pm

    @Keane Cyber Queen Supreme:
    Yep, ITA with everything you said – this isn’t going to be easy for her!! She has become an internet target and this is the first time she’s ever had to overcome this wide spread universal dislike of her and her so called image. It was pretty much contained 5 years ago to the odd blurb but now I would have to say that she is probably the most hated woman on the internet!!! i.e. the world!

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  46. Tamara said on February 7th, 2010 at 4:19 pm

    @Keane Cyber Queen Supreme:
    Well, lets watch her closely and see how she metamorphises next. IF she starts wearing IZOD shirts and tennis whites, if she starts holding sunday football games with the kids on the front lawn, then she has definitely gone the way of a Kennedy! LOL Her clothes will tell the tale, she has to turn herself into whoever she is going to be next because she doesn’t have an identity of her own.

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  47. benjaminbutton14 said on February 7th, 2010 at 4:28 pm

    bb14. This post a bit off topic.

    Protecting their brand: Brad Pitt and Angelina Jolie. Source: news.com.au
    BRAD Pitt relaxes in his bedroom, smoking cannabis and listening to reggae. In her separate suite, Jolie is reading a classic novel.
    An army of nannies put the couple’s six children to bed in the Los Angeles mansion and hope for a calm night – between the parents.

    Then it begins, as it has so many times over the past two years. The screaming and swearing. The accusations of affairs.

    The rows are sometimes so abusive the staff remove the children from the house, says author Ian Halperin.

    Writing in Britain’s Mail on Sunday, he says many friends assumed the once-golden couple would split two years ago.

    Time and again, Jolie, 34, made dire threats over what she would do if 46-year-old Pitt left. But time and again, he returned.

    The relationship is now a shell, a facade to protect the double A-list Brangelina brand, Halperin says.

    The couple planned to take a holiday with their children to the Caribbean this year. According to a friend, they cancelled plans after a huge falling-out last month. “They have barely been together since,” the friend said.

    Pitt has been spending time with actor Drew Barrymore, although it is unclear whether their heart-to-hearts amount to romance or just counselling.

    The only thing that has stopped Pitt and Jolie from permanently splitting was lawyers’ negotiations over who would get custody of the children. News of those negotiations surfaced two weeks ago. Sources insisted the talks were merely to get an agreement to be used in the event of a break-up. Last week, there was silence.

    Halperin says a deal has now been done, but don’t expect an announcement. Instead, Pitt will follow the strategy used by friend Guy Ritchie when he and Madonna split: silence for a while, then a statement of divorce.

    That pattern has been played out so far. Jolie’s manager Geyer Kosinski, usually swift to kill rumours, has been strangely reticent.

    A friend told the Mail on Sunday that any effort to squash news of the “split” should be taken with a pinch of salt. “No one close to them has gone on record to deny anything. The couple are finished.”

    Jolie is looking out for a new man, but she wants someone more worldly, more serious.

    No longer the teenage bad girl, Jolie has cleaned up her act. The image she paints for herself is saintly but sexy: an haute couture humanitarian.

    Jolie is a generous benefactor of charities, a human-rights campaigner and a UN goodwill ambassador.

    But Halperin, an undercover investigator, says one of the couple’s chauffeurs told him they once had an altercation in the car, with Jolie the more violent of the two. “She really flew off the handle, threatening him and lashing out at him. She has a temper like a cobra.”

    Saddest of all, Pitt has confessed that if he could turn back time, he would have stayed with Jennifer Aniston.

    Jolie and Pitt seem to be constantly photographed with their children. Halperin says he expects to see further such photo opportunities over the next few weeks as the couple try to calm the storm while the lawyers iron out the details of their separation.

    The children are the one thing that has stopped Pitt walking out. He is determined to be with them.

    It was that insistence that held up the settlement of their split. Pitt had wanted full custody at least of their biological children – Shiloh, Vivienne and Knox. Now it has been agreed they will have joint custody of all.

    The love between Pitt and Jolie may be long gone, but their financial chemistry is still worth millions. As one of Pitt’s relatives put it: “Brangelina is no more. Now there is only Brand-gelina.”

    The passing of the super-couple known as Brangelina will not be an end – just a new chapter in their story.

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  48. omg said on February 7th, 2010 at 7:28 pm

    Blah blah blah. Once again you idiots have turned a headline post that has nothing to do with Brad and Angelina into a diatribe against them. As well Ian you are SOOOOO late to the table on the Tebow ad controversy. NPI has been debating it for the past two weeks…. you are a stale piece of bread. This site is hilarious. Bring it on Keane you evil cow.

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  49. alif said on February 7th, 2010 at 10:10 pm

    @pickwick:
    I seem to sound as I’m not a guy. Well, I’m very comfortably a guy. I have the masculine tastes; the masculine look, (actually, a “modern, minority-survivor look”; whatever that means (?) hah!

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  50. Christine said on February 7th, 2010 at 10:11 pm

    Mr. Halperin,
    So I take it you don’t believe in freedom of speech? Or freedom of religion? Your bigoted, prejudicial comments truly disappoint me.

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  51. alif said on February 7th, 2010 at 10:46 pm

    Re: American society:
    I”m afraid it’s more than a bit fractured, as of now.
    Should you visit one section of the country, it will not necessarily be the way America is overall.
    Even with the new president; the wide acceptance of black artists and other advances, America seems to be polarized, because some of the people will not accept changing attitudes, such as gays serving in the military. It’s a very thorny situation. Here’s why:
    The Republican Party will turn this against the Democratic Party when election time rolls around.
    Remember, the religious right dominated the republican party not too long ago. And they’re still a powerful force. They want to get back in power.
    And our christian beliefs disallow millions of we, voters to support abortion, or gay marriages. This is just the way it will always be!

    Since the democrats allowed President Clinton to be impeached, their image is one of a ball-less party.
    The leaders, except for President Obama, seem to be extremely passive. No passion! No fire in their bellies, so to speak!
    The republicans seem to be toying with the democrats. Even Joe Lieberman, who is independent, but actually a republican. He was a former democrat.

    We, the centrists, feel that Truman, Kennedy, Johnson, et al,,,”must be rolling in their graves!”
    We wonder, where have all the leaders gone?
    This was further proven since the last election, which the democrats won because of the economy and promises of troop withdrawal, and no more war. They promised us that they’d focus on rebuilding america.
    Then Nancy Pelosi, the chairperson, declared that talk of impeachment of the previous president
    (for war crimes, and other crimes) was “off the table!”
    You can imagine how that felt to we, who voted for the democrats!

    The POV of the Green Party leader, Ralph Nader came to mind. He said there is no difference between democrats and republicans.

    This is just a tiny bit of reasoning about the split in american society.
    One can go on and on.

    And as awful as Palin is, she is the frontrunner for the republican party in the next election. And the republicans are aggressive, while most of the democrats are passive.
    Indeed, a couple of years ago, some web site was gleefully proclaiming the end of Palin, as she resigned the governorship of Alaska. I told them, don’t be foolish enough to discount her. She has an agenda, I told them.

    I thank Obama for exhorting americans to go back to school.

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  52. keane cyber queen supreme said on February 8th, 2010 at 5:36 am

    @ omg

    Oh good the thread police have arrived. I’m so glad we have someone here to prevent us from commiting thread crime! Lol at the “bring it on Keane you evil cow” bit. That really livened up my morning!

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  53. Tamara said on February 8th, 2010 at 10:33 am

    @omg:
    What in the hello does Keane have to do with Ian’s post? Why blame Keane for everything that happens on this blog, it is IAN Undercover. And you must be the mold on the crust of the stale piece of bread!

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