Ms. Ninecent: Beyond Good And Evil

Posted on November 6th, 2009 by HisHighness in IUC:Entertainment, IUC:Exclusive

NineCent Carrie Prejean will become a Norma Jean type victim

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Tags: Carrie Prejean

Tamara said on November 6th, 2009 at 3:24 pm

I think Ian has a preoccupation with Marilyn Monroe these days.
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pattyanne said on November 6th, 2009 at 3:47 pm

LOL, that’s a man for ya!@Tamara:
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mooki said on November 6th, 2009 at 4:37 pm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=icTaJSQnZbw

Carrie Prejean = Crazy Carrie! Crazy Carrie!
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pattyanne said on November 6th, 2009 at 4:59 pm

LMBOOOOoooooooo, good one mooki@mooki:
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Keane Cyber Queen Supreme said on November 6th, 2009 at 6:21 pm

Ok I don’t have a clue who this woman is and I would prefer it to remain that way so I’m just gonna blow right past it and talk about what I want to talk about. Which is: has anyone noticed that Angelina has been doing more and more obvious endorsements lately? First for the palm pre, and now for The Gap. Do we think this is because she hasn’t got the big cash cow of selling photos of her babies to rely on as she has been called out on this too much? Plus she isn’t booking too many films these days. And God alone knows how many millions she’s been shelling out lately on lawyer’s fees and buying off negative press, and private jets to all the world’s danger zones on her desperate last. So I’m thinking more and more blatant endorsements is going to be the way forward. Was that cake mix lady one too?

And in other news, can I just run this by people:

Re: SALT – they’re not actually going to release that film right? It’s a joke, isn’t it? Isn’t it?! You cannot be telling me that that is an actual film!!!! Ok, I am predicting that this will be one of the biggest cult bombs of cinematic history (in a Showgirls-esque so bad it’s good kind of way). Ladies, if we all lived on the same continent I would suggest we all get together and share a bottle of wine or three and have a good laugh over it together. I may even pay money to see it! (Let’s face it, it will not make it’s production costs back any other way!).
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Tamara said on November 6th, 2009 at 6:53 pm

@Keane Cyber Queen Supreme:
You know, Lindsay Lohan used to be a huge draw, she really earned money on her flicks, and then all that trouble and bad PR on Georgia Rule, and then, her latest movie, the one where she pretends to be preggo went directly to DVD, never even made it to the theatre. That was probably after they tested it with a live audience. I would not be surprised if this one does the same, and Im telling you, that will be the beginning of the end for AJ, they probably paid a fortune for her to be in that movie too. They will not make their money back on this one guaranteed. In fact, all her movies have flopped lately. A mighty heart could have been kind of good, but her accent was so bad it distracted from the movie, plus her wooden acting, it was hard to believe that she was one bit upset over the kidnapping of her husband, then The Changeling flopped, and now this!!!! She is on a downward spiral
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Tamara said on November 6th, 2009 at 6:56 pm

@Keane Cyber Queen Supreme:
Keane – This is the woman who got into it with Perez when he was a guest judge at the – was it Miss America – anyway, he asked her if gays should be allowed to marry and she said No, that it was against God, and Perez went crazy – talked about it on his blog, on interviews, all over the place and basically she is such a prejudiced dumb ass that it ruined her career before she even started and now she is suing everyone in sight. She’s a pig!!! The modern day Anita Bryant
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Keane Cyber Queen Supreme said on November 6th, 2009 at 7:40 pm

@Keane Cyber Queen Supreme:

That was meant to say “desperate last PR quest”. Time for bed! Night all x
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mooki said on November 6th, 2009 at 7:44 pm

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/entertainment/tom-cruise-has-private-scientology-ritual-in-new-book-blown-for-good-by-marc-headley/story-e6frewyr-1225795036108?from=public_rss
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Kate said on November 6th, 2009 at 8:26 pm

@Tamara:
I remember that, wasn’t that when Perez got into a little trouble also? Well she probably answered that way to try and win, those pageants are so rigged anyway , the majority of this country thinks exactly like that Tam.. Obama said the same thing and Perez also went off on him for that. Ted C is pissed off at the Prez and just about every gay friend I have. What they should have asked her is if she believe if gays should have the same rights as everyone else, and then seen how she would have answered that. They would have gotten a more truthful answer probably. That was like asking “are you a racist?” and she would have said,”of course not I believe that God created all men and woman equal” , lol..but if you asked her that question in a another way, you would get the truth. IAN did a very interesting exercise on this himself and was surprised at the results he got when he asked them as a black man as opposed to a white man, or was donations, I have forgotten. I bet if any of those peoples friends asked them if they were racist, they would all say NO. lol
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Ms Agatha said on November 6th, 2009 at 8:45 pm

@Keane Cyber Queen Supreme:
The next 5 bottles are on me … I would invite you’ll for a Girl’s Night Out …. we would have such a blast … probably will die of laugh attacks ….. and do a little movie party ( something like Rocky Horror Picture Show ) : who runs fastest with bloody knees across the street , after 2 joints or 1 bottle of wine…. wig is obligatory… running barefoot …too bad we are not on same continent… hahaha
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Ms Agatha said on November 6th, 2009 at 8:52 pm

Carrie Prejean will become a Norma Jean type victim ….??? How so ???

Whom is she sleeping with ? Do tell ! And who wants her put to rest because of it ? Do Tell !!!
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Kate said on November 6th, 2009 at 8:58 pm

@Ms Agatha:
Must be in the White House huh? lol
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Tamara said on November 6th, 2009 at 9:10 pm

@Kate:
Oh yea it was a big brouhaha. We discussed it at length here on this forum. The thing is, this is the way I see it. She answered his question, she had the right to her opinion, just as Perez had the right to his. But because he didn’t like her answer, he used his media to completely and totally trash her at every turn. Now, just because I don’t agree with her doesn’t mean she has every right to her beilef, in this instance I think Perez was out of line becuase of the way he attacked her just because her opinion differed from his! It was a fine line. But, she wasn’t out campaigning to have gays burned at the stake the way Anita Bryant did, now THAT was wrong. But PH asked her a question, she answered it, she didn’t ask for it, and that should have been the end of it.
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Tamara said on November 6th, 2009 at 9:11 pm

I phrased that wrong but you know what I mean, she had a right to her opinion!!
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Ms Agatha said on November 6th, 2009 at 9:35 pm

@Kate:
makes you wonder what Ian is talking about ? LOL …. interrresting …
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Chris G. said on November 6th, 2009 at 9:52 pm

Perez Hilton is the biggest hypocrite out there. Whined like a baby when Miss Whoever said what she did about gays, and whined like a baby when he got into a scuffle with one of will.i.am’s bodyguards earlier this year, but yet he was the one who instigated the whole fight by calling will.i.am a “fucking faggot!” Yeah, a huge gay rights advocate calling others faggots. What a fake-o. (Sorry Ian I know you’ve said you believe PH has journalistic integrity and is a respectable member of the media, but that whole incident really set him low on the bar and I never went back to his site after that).
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Ms Agatha said on November 6th, 2009 at 10:10 pm

Anybody knows who Carrie Prejean is dating officially ? And who unofficially ? And who is the secret lover ? And who is wire taping her ? …. AHHH … so many questions….
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ThatGuy said on November 7th, 2009 at 2:54 am

Carrie Prejean supposedly has a very explicit sex tape floating around out there. The lawyers for the Miss [whatever] Pageant showed Ms. Prejean and her lawyers the tape to get her to back off from her lawsuit against them. I wonder who else is in this tape?
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Alif said on November 7th, 2009 at 3:00 am

I have seen the beauty pageants. I agree they are fixed. It was reported that Donald Trump personally selected the semi-finalists for Miss Universe. I think there might have been one black among them. I personally thought Miss Phillipines was worthy of the crown. I don’t recall any Asians in the Top 15.

Also, Donald Trump made the news a few yrs ago, when he complained that Miss USA (minorites were well-represented) had too many winners who were not beautiful (enough for him.)
I believe he’s the co-owner of several big time beauty pageants.

In the past, when there were, say 11 judges, there would be 11 questions to choose from. Guess what! Perez Hilton’s question just happened to be one of the 5 or 6 questions for the contestants to choose.
It was a set-up!

TMZ is exposing Carrie Prejean’s “hypocrisy” regularly.
It’s kind of a hard call!
I don’t like gays ganging up on a lone woman at all. Then when men do worse than what Carrie Prejean did, they just whine, imo!
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ThatGuy said on November 7th, 2009 at 3:28 am

Oops. Prejean’s sex tape only has her in it.
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mooki said on November 7th, 2009 at 8:20 am

@Alif:

Trump also got that con Blagojevich on Celebrity Apprentice, which isn’t sitting very well with the REAL celebs. I’m hearing there’s gonna be a boycott of the sponsors. Trumps a senile sob.

btw, do you think Perez was trying to out Will i am when he started the fight? I’ve heard Will is on the DL as is most of the hip hop community
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mooki said on November 7th, 2009 at 11:21 am

http://www.ocala.com/article/20091106/ARTICLES/911061007

Tacky Travolas hosting a post-premiere gala in Ocala, FL. Any of these groups a CO$ front? just asking…
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pattyanne said on November 7th, 2009 at 11:57 am

Nope mooki, not a one. They are all local, and all help just those affected locally. Good groups all. Can’t speak for the Jett Travolta Foundation of course, it’s new, and i have no idea how they operate any funds raised for it.@mooki:
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pattyanne said on November 7th, 2009 at 11:59 am

adendum
I’ve adopted a traumatized mini doxi from the Ocala Humane Society in the past.@pattyanne:
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pickwick said on November 7th, 2009 at 12:12 pm

Carrie dropped her lawsuit the other day when opposing counsel started playing a tape of her porn tape “Home Alone’. She was promptly dropped from some kind of conservative “family values” type of event.

Everyone that dealt with her at the pageant said she had a horrible attitude and that she was only nice to people who had power. Donald Trump said that she really played him and then he found out how she was treating everyone else.

The Norma Jean thing makes me think drugs?

Anyway, I won’t miss her. I would like to read more about that crazy wife of Randy Quaid–Evi Quaid. Now THAT’S an interesting story about those two basically on the run from drug dealers (if you believe the detective) from posh hotel to posh spa paying the bills with fake credit cards and allowing herself to be photographed painting a slanderous charge against a police officer in front of the mayor’s office and kicking an 87-year-old receptionist somewhere. She spends her days working on a museum devoted to the career of Randy Quaid in some little Texas town of 1200 people. Marfa, I think. I mean, call TLC. These people are a reality show I would be watching.
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Alif said on November 7th, 2009 at 2:12 pm

@mooki:
The hip hop genre does nothing for me. But I do skim over the threads concerning the performers. Seems there are a lot of gays and bis (undeclared).
Also, there have been a lot of anti-gay stuff in their records. Of couse one starts to thinlk they protest too much; and also they must have looked in the mirror and didn’t like what they saw.

Trump must think this is the normal way to do business. There was widespread cynicism over his choice of Joan Rivers as the winner of his Celebrity competition this year. She clearly was not even close to the best choice, according to bloggers. Rivers and Trump are old pals.

I don’t read Perez. A couple of yrs ago, he solemnly and fiercely declared Fidel Castro had died. (No ifs, ands or buts!)
I can’t support him by visiting his site. I’ll get info second-hand.
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Alif said on November 7th, 2009 at 2:18 pm

@Alif:
Mooki;
I really appreciate your bulletins!
The thought of little Tommy Cruise talking for 15 mins. to inanimate objects is quite startling; yet so appropos!
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benjaminbutton14 said on November 7th, 2009 at 4:28 pm

bb14. Off the track again Britany Spears hits Australia here’s what they had to say even CNN picked up the story.

Britney Spears fails to whip the crowd into a frenzy at her first Australian concert. Source: Herald Sun
BRITNEY Spears’ Australian tour is in turmoil, with angry fans demanding their money back over a “boring”, “stiff” and lip-synched first concert in Perth on Friday night.

As the controversial popstar hid in her hotel on Saturday, her Circus tour – which will include shows in Melbourne on Wednesday, Thursday and Friday- threatened to descend into farce.

Hundreds of fans, who paid up to $1500 a ticket, stormed out of the Burswood Dome concert.

And some, who left as early as three songs into her set, demanded refunds over Spears’ lacklustre performance.

One security guard commented that he had never seen so many people walk out of a concert.

Barmaid Amanda Hawlet, 22, drove two hours from her home town and spent nearly $500 on her weekend to see Spears.

She left little more than half an hour into the action.

“I want my money back,” she said.

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“The ticket cost me $200 and she lip-synched the whole thing. It’s cost me half a week’s wage and you’ve got bills to pay, but you look forward to this concert. It’s a night out and what do you get? Nothing.”

Allison Crugnale left the concert after 45 minutes.

“It’d be good to get the money back,” the teacher, 32, said.

“I go to all the concerts that come here and I’ve never been so disappointed.

“She (Britney) just didn’t want to be there. She just wanted to get it over and done with and just get off stage.

“Her dancers should get paid more than her because they were more entertaining than she was.”

Fans also complained that Spears spent large portions of the show with her back to them and the giant screens atop the circular stage did not show any vision of Spears.

The walkouts have attracted international attention, with the story being picked up by American news site CNN.

The Victorian Government wants concert promoters to place alerts on tickets or promotional material if performers plan to mime.
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Canuck said on November 7th, 2009 at 5:02 pm

Carrie Prejean a candle in the wind?
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mooki said on November 7th, 2009 at 5:15 pm

@pattyanne:

a lot of people on the WWP boards are saying that the Jett Travolta Foundation is a Scilon front but there’s little evidence to prove it. John and Kelly haven’t update their website since ‘08 except for the announcement of Jett’s death in Jan.
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Tamara said on November 7th, 2009 at 5:38 pm

@Canuck:
Hey Canuck!! I haven’t seen you in ages, are you an FF regular now? I really miss you around here
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Pattyanne said on November 7th, 2009 at 6:50 pm

Lets see, Carrie would have to be sleeping with Barack and his half-brother what’s-his-name, and making out with celebs (Donald Trump?) on the side, while doing drugs (perscription) and taking weekly clensing enemas. She’s going to have to get with it if she is to live up to MM’s lifestyle.
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Vittoria said on November 7th, 2009 at 7:48 pm

@benjaminbutton14:
Oh dear, that is too bad BB14 that Australia feels duped. In the US, we know that our Brit Brit doesn’t actually sing. No, no, no. Strictly lip sync for her.
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Tamara said on November 7th, 2009 at 8:26 pm

@Vittoria:
They tried to make me sing live and I said NO NO NO
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mooki said on November 8th, 2009 at 6:47 am

http://www.nypost.com/p/pagesix/lilo_dad_eyed_dough_for_tape_NA0ULGNCyuBBZwiIct3w2H

Is Dina Lohan sending stories about her ex to news outlets? Looks like she’s the “source” in this Page 6 article. These two need to go to couples counseling…
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Canuck said on November 8th, 2009 at 7:42 am

@Tamara:
Hey Tamara,

I usually come back for the Brangie stuff. The rest kind of leaves me blah (no offense). I get over to FF on occasion, but there isn’t too much of interest over there these days. With no news about Brangie it’s mostly a bunch of people trying to bait other people by putting up ridiculous and/or inflammatory posts, “I had an alien’s baby” style.
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Tamara said on November 8th, 2009 at 7:52 am

@Canuck:
You should join us on our little blog, its private of course because we like having a place to talk without all the crazies attacking our every other word. But you are welcome to join us in our little corner of the world if you would like to! I would have to figure out how to use the PM feature on this site to get your email address, since the blog is private you need to accept an invitation. It’s up to you, let me know!!
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Canuck said on November 8th, 2009 at 8:40 am

I didn’t even know that there was a PM function on this site, LOL

Is there somewhere I can go to request an invite?
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Tamara said on November 8th, 2009 at 8:57 am

@Canuck:
LOL I don’t know how to use the thing hahaha! Patty Anne knows, are you going to be around today, I’ll get her to help me. We need to send you an email and I don’t want you to give it out here. Might take us a day or two but Patty Anne will figure it out for me!
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Pattyanne said on November 8th, 2009 at 9:22 am

Hellooo Canuck, would you mind creating a “phony” email account in hotmail, or yahoo or what you have available so Tam can send you what you need? Then as soon as you receive it, you can delete that email address?? @Canuck:
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mooki said on November 8th, 2009 at 9:25 am

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1225942/Michael-Jackson-furious-hes-buried-Marilyn-Monroe-claims-medium-live-TV-seance.html

I can’t believe this. A “psychic” holds a “seance” on UK TV claiming they spoke w/ “Michael Jackson” and claiming he was “furious that he wasn’t buried next to Marilyn Monroe”. whatever…

anybody else keeping up w/ Papa Joe’s latest snafu?

btw, Dr. Arnie Klein is making up stories on TMZ w/ Harvey Levin… he’s hearing the police sirens!

on that trash show Jane Velez Mitchell, they were rehashing the MJ molestation case w/ Diane Diamond and Lisa Bloom (sure they’re “legal experts”) and THEY SAID MJ WAS GUILTY!!! let’s see, illegal alien parent w/ kids, no money, what better way to get $$$ then to mooch off a celeb? There’s thousands of pages of docs that prove MJ was innocent in both molestation cases (the first time around, the dad was a Hollywood bigwig who wanted MJ to perform at his son’s b-day party, MJ declined, dad got pissed and hired Anthony Pellicano, who’s now in prison)

rant over
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Pattyanne said on November 8th, 2009 at 9:29 am

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Hope this makes it easier to understand.

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Pattyanne said on November 8th, 2009 at 9:34 am

I can’t stand that bull dog Jane Velez Mitchell. She’s only out for fame, not facts. I do like to watch Nancy Grace, the original Jane V.M. though, but at times she gets fixated on a theory and won’t listen to reason too.

Papa Joe is a loser, a waste of humanity imo. He has lived off his children all his life, and is still trying to do so off his dead son. I feel so sorry for all that Michael endured as his son. I never believed MJ to be guilty of molesting a child, he worships children, and the very act of being a child to him was like a religious experience. I think MJ lived the childhood he missed through his relationships with other children. He wanted them to have what he never did; love, attention, fun, and a real childhood! He was Peter Pan.

@mooki:
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Canuck said on November 8th, 2009 at 9:55 am

Ok, just sent my email via PM.
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Pattyanne said on November 8th, 2009 at 10:53 am

Dear Ted:
In your last Bitch-Back you said Angelina is waiting for Brad 2.0 to be her next target. Would this 2.0 have to be a younger man (à la Robert Pattinson) or does age not matter? I just heard a rumor that she might be doing a movie with Johnny Depp. Not that he could be lured away, but would he qualify in your book?
—Emmy

Dear Cougar Attack:
Depp def qualifies. We’ll see what happens in their new film together…think we’re gonna see a repeat of Pitt-Aniston situation?
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mooki said on November 8th, 2009 at 1:03 pm

http://www.examiner.com/x-21681-Anaheim-Celebrity-Headlines-Examiner~y2009m11d7-Jackson-Family-Reality-Show-to-Premier-on-AE

count me out as one who’s not watching this show. Randy and Janet are not participating in this crap, thank goodness. LaToya, ever the opportunist, I think is guest-starring in one episode.
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mooki said on November 8th, 2009 at 1:04 pm

@mooki:
anyone else agree w/ me that Dina is Lindsay’s dealer?
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Pattyanne said on November 8th, 2009 at 1:12 pm

She’s definately her anabler, possibly more than that, but what happens when the golden goose isn’t able to bring in the moneys to support that family as they like?@mooki:
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Pattyanne said on November 8th, 2009 at 1:15 pm

You have a PM on the IUC Discussion Forum Canuck. @Canuck:
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Pattyanne said on November 8th, 2009 at 2:30 pm

Arghhhhhh…Enabler. Either way, Dina Lohan is a bad mother. Ted C. has been calling for an intervention for Lindsay for ages. I fully expect to read in my morning newspaper one day that Lindsay has gone the way of other celeb drug addicts.@Pattyanne:
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Togi said on November 8th, 2009 at 3:36 pm

@Pattyanne:
Good job, Patty! That’s how I figured out how to use it!

@ Everyone: Hope everyone’s having a great day. We’re getting our first snow! An itty bitty one that won’t amount to much, if anything. But still, a flake is a flake … in more ways than one! LOL
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Pattyanne said on November 8th, 2009 at 5:00 pm

I would so love to see the snow flakes falling in the evening light. I’m beginning to think the South isn’t the place for me after all….lol

Thanks Togi. I have a curious mind, can’t rest until i figure something out. @Togi:
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Tamara said on November 8th, 2009 at 5:34 pm

@Pattyanne:
Patty, I grew up in Iowa, and then spent 32 years in Florida and I never lost that nostalgic longing for the seasons. I remember thinking how very wierd it was to see Christmas decorations all over the place in what seemed like the middle of summer! LOL Now that we moved and have the 4 seasons again I would never go back to Florida never. The Florida I remember from the 70’s is long gone, its now a sea of condos and cars and I don’t miss it at all.
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Pattyanne said on November 8th, 2009 at 5:42 pm

LOL Tamara, we have Christmas Boat Parades, with Santa in a bikini (ouch , my eyes!) and all the other boats go alongside slowly. It’s beautiful, but it’s not Christmas as i know it. I do miss the seasons, but i doubt i could take the cold again. I keep telling hubby we need to buy a cabin somewhere up in Tenn. to spend the holidays. Perhaps one day, when the grands are older.@Tamara:
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Pattyanne said on November 8th, 2009 at 5:46 pm

Ah ha~! Speaking of the Florida that is a sea of condos, yes, most definately there is that, but if you go to the Gulf Coast, to an area known as Nature’s Coast, it’s wonderful! Acres and acres of woodlands, thousands of lakes with water so clear you can see the bottom, home sites consist of acres not footage, it’s truly the old Florida here. We sit out front in the early morning and watch the deer, turkey, fox, Bobcat family and other wild creatures walking in and out of the 78 acres of woodlands across from our home. Then we can go to the back deck ( 26 ft. x 16 ft) and watch the fishes and wild birds, and an occasional Bald Eagle swooping down for fish for breakfast, if we are in the mood, we walk down to our dock, and take the bass boat out to the main lake and just cruise and enjoy the gators bellowing for a mate …. it’s what Florida used to be up this way Tam. And the best part is we are minutes away fro Disneyworld, Orlando, Daytona Beach, Tarpon Springs sponge diving, Ocala….i think i just talked myself into staying home. LOL@Tamara:
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Tamara said on November 8th, 2009 at 6:42 pm

@Pattyanne:
Yea, I’ve been to Cedar Key and its kind of like the old Florida still, bit marshy for my taste haha, but I remember the west coast when they still had all these old beach houses and tiki bars on the beach, on a good night Jimmy Buffet would be there drunk as a skunk hanging out with the locals and you could rent a funky little house on the beach for like 100 dollars a week! LOL ahhhhh the good old days!
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Ms Agatha said on November 8th, 2009 at 7:04 pm

@Tamara:
…if you know of a little funky house on the beach for like 100 dollars a week anywhere you can call me ! LOL
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mooki said on November 8th, 2009 at 7:09 pm

http://www.tampabay.com/opinion/editorials/investigation-overdue/1050004?postCode=1&postCode=1&postCode=1
“When workers for the Church of Scientology sign a contract agreeing to serve in the church’s Sea Organization for “the next billion years,” the church can twist that agreement into a license to harass its workers, track them down if they leave and pressure them to return. What true church, what caring employer, would trample on the dignity and free choices of its own members in such a way? And what are authorities going to do about it?

In a three-day special report last week, the St. Petersburg Times’ Joe Childs and Thomas C. Tobin told the stories of former members of the so-called Sea Org, Scientology’s most dedicated labor force, and the ordeal the church put them through after they tried to leave without permission.

Sea Org members hold jobs such as gardeners, cooks, laborers, secretaries and assembly line workers. The church demands sacrifice and obedience from its employees, and what does it deliver in return? Sea Org workers are provided room and board but paid a pittance — far below minimum wage. Those interviewed by the Times said they were required to work extended hours, deprived of sleep, separated from their spouses, subjected to multiple daily head counts to ensure no one slipped away, punished if they fell short of expectations and required to sign “confessions” the church kept and later used against them.

If they wanted to quit, these workers could not just resign from their jobs and leave. Church policy required that they “route out,” a process that could take months of daily interrogations and intense pressure. If they gathered their meager belongings and ran, church security teams and private investigators tracked them by using their bank and credit card records as well as personal information they had given the church about their backgrounds, family and friends. Once located and confronted, the workers were told if they didn’t return to the Sea Org, their chance at “eternity” — to be reborn into a new body each time they died — would be lost. In effect, Scientology held the cards.

If they succumbed and returned to the Sea Org, some received even worse treatment. They were placed on a punishment detail called the Rehabilitation Project Force, enduring weeks or months of manual labor, limited food and rest, and enforced silence. In one instance, former Sea Org member Don Jason told the Times that after he agreed to return he was held captive in a locked cabin aboard the Scientology ship Freewinds, with a security camera trained on him even as he slept. He eventually escaped from the ship and is now telling his story.

As former staffers lift the veil of secrecy that for years has obscured the inner workings of the Church of Scientology, a new mystery emerges: Why are government authorities looking the other way? The Internal Revenue Service has ample reason to reconsider its decision to grant Scientology tax-exempt status as a religion. Labor officials should determine whether wage and working condition violations have occurred, and law enforcement ought to investigate whether the church’s restraint on members’ free movement crossed a legal line.

The Church of Scientology trumpets its global reach and expansions in communities large and small across America. Its presence can be disruptive, as Clearwater has learned since the church secretly moved in and established its spiritual headquarters in the city more than 25 years ago. Government cannot afford to be complacent, and those politicians and community leaders who have normalized relations with Scientology can no longer claim ignorance about the nature of the church and the treatment of its workers.

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Tamara said on November 8th, 2009 at 7:25 pm

@Ms Agatha:
I’d have to transport us back in time to the 70’s!! LOL
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Ms Agatha said on November 8th, 2009 at 7:28 pm

@Tamara:
LOL…. I couldn’t afford 100 dollars a week for a beach hut then ! LOL
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Pattyanne said on November 8th, 2009 at 7:32 pm

Hello Aggie! I think we’d all love to be able to go back to simplier times. Seems everything is so screwed up these days.
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mooki said on November 8th, 2009 at 7:50 pm

@Tamara:

speaking of ’70s, whatever happened to that Studio 54 series that Showtime was supposed to have in development? the NY Post said that they were consulting w/ Liza, Ian Schrager, Carmen deAlessio, Ron Jeremy (I know), Janice Dickinson (ugh), Bianca Jagger, most of the busboys, disco divas (including Donna Summer, Gloria Gaynor, Evelyn Champagne King, Loleatta Holloway, and Martha Wash) and several of the top DJs from rival NYC discos such as the Funhouse, the Loft, 12 West, Xenon, Infinity, Le Jardin, The Saint and many others. Rumor has it that it’s supposed to be more factual that the ‘98 film…. now there’s been no news about it. What happened?
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Ms Agatha said on November 8th, 2009 at 8:01 pm

@Pattyanne:
haha..isn’t that the truth ….good to see ya !:)
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Tamara said on November 8th, 2009 at 8:38 pm

@mooki:
I don’t know, I never heard of it, I’ve read about it alot in different peoples biographies that were there then, and I think I read something about the owner…but haven’t heard about the documentary.

Aggie – we were all waiting tables at night and there would be like 8 of us living in a one bedroom beach house, someone always sleeping on a lawn chair on the beach! ha! And we’d make these great big pots of spaghetti to feed us all, it was good times! LOL
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Ms Agatha said on November 8th, 2009 at 8:58 pm

@Tamara:
LOL… and I was wearing the shortest Mini in London ! LOL
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mooki said on November 8th, 2009 at 10:00 pm

@Tamara:

this is actually a drama series that been in development hell. last thing I’ve heard about it was a Page 6 article in Aug. ‘08
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mooki said on November 8th, 2009 at 10:10 pm

Scilon celebrities – who’s still in who’s out

definitely out: Chaka Khan, Jason Beghe, Paul Haggis, Mimi Rogers

possibly out: Lisa Marie and Priscilla Presley, Karen Black

borderline (possibly leaving): John Travolta, Katie Holmes (was she ever really in?), Juliette Lewis, Kirstie Alley (surprisingly), Laura Prepon

definitely in: Tom Cruise, Kelly Preston, Jenna Elfman, Beck, Danny and Chris Masterson, Bijou Phillips, Jason Lee, Leah Remini, Doug E. Fresh, Greta Van Sustern, Michael Pena, MC Lyte, Giovanni and Marissa Ribisi, Chick Corea, Edgar Winter, Nancy Cartwright, Catherine Bell, Elisabeth Moss

possibly in: JLo, Will and Jada, Fred Armisen (married to Elisabeth Moss)
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Alif said on November 9th, 2009 at 1:21 am

The New York Daily News published a photo of TomKat and an article about scientology today. (Sunday, November 8th).
http://www.nydailynews.com/

The cult’s members beating up on other members who are derelict in something or other.
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Alif said on November 9th, 2009 at 1:27 am

@Alif:
One can see that Tommy now has a double chin.
HIs hair plugs are more noticeable.
His nose is fixed and shaped well.

Katie seems happy.
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Togi said on November 9th, 2009 at 3:02 am

@Alif:
Interesting article, Alife. Weird, weird, weird. I pray those who wish to can find a way to make it out of that cult alive.
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Alif said on November 9th, 2009 at 4:35 am

@Togi:
I’ll pray for them also.
Poor Tommy! I saw two different large photos of him in separate years. Darn, if his eyes don’t look dead!
Like there is no one there!

I love snowfall. Haven’t seen it in years. I sometimes would like to just leave everything and move further north. Alas, it can’t happen, as I have everything here.
It’s frustrating to lose another, though not as close, relative. She was an artist based in Fairbanks.
And while I thought that this was my last place to settle, seven yrs ago; it’s now overcrowded.
Was so quiet and peaceful back then. Now that’s history.
I can only make the best of it. Only out: get famous or rich; or both!

Time to turn the lights out. It’s 25 to 2 A.M.
Monday, then!
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Canuck said on November 9th, 2009 at 5:51 am

@Pattyanne:
Thanks and answered Patty
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Ms Agatha said on November 9th, 2009 at 9:25 am

Another interesting read…Kidman opens her bedroom door ( just a little )

“I’ve explored obsession. I’ve explored loss and love in terms of being in a grief-stricken place, I’ve explored strange sexual fetish stuff, I’ve explored the mundane aspect of marriage, and monogamy,” she said.

Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/gossip/2009/11/04/2009-11-04_nicole_kidman_opens_her_bedroom_door_ive_explored_strange_sexual_fetish_stu.html#ixzz0WN8tjMNu
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Pattyanne said on November 9th, 2009 at 10:51 am

As i see it, the economy is down, and therefore so are sales. These celebs are products and are now forced to self-promote in order to keep their income level where they feel comfortable. What an empty life.@Ms Agatha:
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Tamara said on November 9th, 2009 at 11:00 am

@Ms Agatha:
Can anyone say “Eyes Wide Shut” ……….
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Ms Agatha said on November 9th, 2009 at 1:00 pm

@Pattyanne:
You are absolutely right…… why would she now open her mouth for no reason… out of the blue ( it’s not that Ian is writing a book about HER lol) … maybe that’s what this is about : Can anybody please write a tell all about her too ? … hefty advance payments welcome LOL
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Ms Agatha said on November 9th, 2009 at 1:03 pm

@Tamara:
Rumor is , she is not what she wants us to believe …. only problem is : Nobody cares …
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mooki said on November 9th, 2009 at 1:16 pm

AAAHHH! Carrie Prejean is going on a media blitzkrieg.. she’s going to be on The View and the Today Show tomorrow.

http://www.usatoday.com/life/2009-11-09-travolta09_st_N.htm

the Travoltas “speak” (via their PR people). Kelly Preston thanks “their church” (Scientology or not?). rolls eyes @ how they’re pimping out their other kid
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Togi said on November 9th, 2009 at 1:52 pm

@ Alife: Sorry to hear about your recent loss, Alife. A Fairbanks artist, aye? What type of art work did she do? I am a lover of the arts, as is my 10 year old daughter. We may have seen some of her work. Wouldn’t that be something???

I know EXACTLY how you feel about where you live! That is EXACTLY why we left California almost 9 years ago. Both the hubby and I were born and raised there … in quiet “little” towns. But … alas … our towns turned into cities and a bazillion people from God Knows Where moved into them and made them so unaffordable for any of the town natives to afford. We were fortunate enough to build before the HUGE housing crunch, and were able to sell our home for exactly twice what we paid for it. Selling that sucker made it possible for us to move to Alaska and BUY our ranchette log home with a mountain view. But, we do what we must to be who we want to be. LOL

I gave up on the rich and famous dream early on in life. I figured out I was just too LAZY to do what it took. And I lacked the self-confidence, of course. Haaa haaa. But “I could’a been a contender” I tell ya! I could’a!
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mooki said on November 9th, 2009 at 3:15 pm

@mooki:

http://www.usmagazine.com/celebritynews/news/scientologist-john-travl-2009911

well, this just sucks.

Kelly must be cooperating w/ Miscarriage and Tommy trust fund baby Davis. It could be either Kelly is using the Co$ tech BY HERSELF! (this sounds like shit she would say)
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Ms Agatha said on November 9th, 2009 at 3:29 pm

George C’s soon to be wife is so much more beautiful than AJ…. GC is going to get married to a true bombshell …. take that AJ ! LOL

http://www.bild.de/BILD/news/bild-english/celebrity-gossip/2009/11/04/elisabetta-canalis-fhm-lingerie-shoot/future-mrs-george-clooney-in-her-underwear.html
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mia said on November 9th, 2009 at 3:38 pm

@Ms Agatha:

And another one of Clooney`s girldfriends who uses their relationship to increase her fame and fortune! What a great woman indeed. And no her face is not beautiful – actually she looks like a tranny but if you fancy Sugar Ray she might be your typ!
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Pattyanne said on November 9th, 2009 at 3:41 pm

Wow, she’s what AJ wishes she were! George got him a real winner here! She’s gorgeous, sexy as all get out, and he looks so in love. I always had a crush on George, from way back when he was on Facts Of Life….sigh A woman could find George Clooney in a darkened room filled with Brad Pitts. All George would have to do is say …Hello. (insert drooling female here)@mia:
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Pattyanne said on November 9th, 2009 at 3:42 pm

Or Mia, if one fancies lesbian dykes then Angie would be perfect. Hell, if i were a leasian, i’d go for AJ, but i’m into men. Congrats once again to George Clooney on his upcoming Christmas wedding!!@mia:
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Ms Agatha said on November 9th, 2009 at 3:44 pm

@mia:
Exactly , Mia….. just my type
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Ms Agatha said on November 9th, 2009 at 3:47 pm

@Pattyanne:
Poor AJ…. she’ll turn green of envy soon …. ever seen a green skeleton ? …What a sight ! Can’t wait ..hahaha
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Ms Agatha said on November 9th, 2009 at 3:50 pm

..hahahahahahaha…rofl ..

http://media.bigoo.ws/content/halloween/gif_ghosts/halloween_ghosts_81.jpg
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mia said on November 9th, 2009 at 4:16 pm

@Pattyanne:

A Christmas wedding? Not going to happen! I guess I told you that before – you should not believe everything you read. That is just gossip.
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Tamara said on November 9th, 2009 at 4:16 pm

@Ms Agatha:
Nope, he won’t marry her, mark my words, Mr Clooney has been married once and will never do it again, he will break up with her before he has to marry her! My New Years prediction come early! LOL
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Ms Agatha said on November 9th, 2009 at 4:20 pm

@mia:
LOL….. we only believe what you got to say ..and that’s the truth .
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Alif said on November 9th, 2009 at 4:22 pm

@Togi:
Also, California is in deep financial trouble. Too many people can’t carry their share of society’s demands.
And so they need and get freebies.
Then too, there is the elephant in the room; i.e. illegal aliens.
Here, they are everywhere. There’s no diversity! All “latino” crews. Landscaping, construction, esp. But entrenched in every workplace. And they still want more. For example, the Native American agencies are going under, while the “latino” agencies are flourishing. Free services!
They even manage to infiltrate the few N/A agencies; lie and connive their way into director positions, then hire “latinos” over qualified Native Americans.
One could write a book. But, like I say, it’s politically incorrect to talk about it. It’s “the elephant in the room”.
Meanwhile, California is going bankrupt.
Our governor is wise to what’s happening, but votes are the priority. Actually, it’s the same song, all over the land! Or maybe I should say, dirge!

It’s the weather that keeps us here. For myself, it carries a steep price!
As a mutt, I’m in a part of the country that has huge numbers of newcomers from the south; retired servicemen, esp. Navy and Marines. And they are very conservative in their politics. And they are white!
I may be more highly educated, more experienced with different cultures; more into the arts; etc! etc!
But they only judge what they see!

Well, rant over!
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Pattyanne said on November 9th, 2009 at 4:23 pm

Mia said, “you should not believe everything you read. That is just gossip.” True mia, most everything posted on a blog is gossip and speculation, a voicing of different opinions. I have mine, you have yours, and i respect your right to believe as you do, so please respect my right as well. Thanks! @mia:
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Ms Agatha said on November 9th, 2009 at 4:26 pm

@Tamara:
… it doesn’t matter if he is legally married…. or pulls a ‘ Brange ‘ style common law type ( which he basically does already ) HW marriage / Common Law Marriage is defined when you live with your significant other and you get a dog together ..:)
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Keane Cyber Queen Supreme said on November 9th, 2009 at 5:16 pm

SO today seems to be the day for celebrities doing the lowest things to market their products. KGB-emlazoned cap on a toddler to advertise mommy’s latest turkey spy flick anyone? Or how about a topless Rihanna shielding her face as if to fend off a blow to the head on the cover of her new single while declaring she wants to be the “poster girl for survivor’s of domestic violence” in endless rounds of promotional interviews? Looks like the shameless publicity-seeking antics of Brangelina (has anyone seen a refugee hanging around I can pose with?) have driven the PRs of other celebs to follow suit to stay in business. Nicole Kidman has said if you can’t beat them, join them and has signed up for press with the UN and even Jennifer Aniston and CC are working that humanitarian angle. If there is one thing I give Angelina credit for it’s her mastery of the shameless act of famewhoring. When the cough “film work” cough dries up, perhaps she should consider becoming America’s answer to Max Clifford. She would be PERFECT at it. So much so there would be no more need for dodgy trips in private jets to far-flung isles. She could just sit back, count her money and leave the hard stuff to everyone else. Now wouldn’t that make a relaxing change Angie huh?
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Tamara said on November 9th, 2009 at 5:48 pm

@Ms Agatha:
hahahaha! Common law takes 7 years in most states.
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Ms Agatha said on November 9th, 2009 at 6:03 pm

@Tamara:
And there is no Common Law Marriage in Ca … that’s why couples ( GC’s live-in G/F moved from Italy to LA) have written contracts …
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mooki said on November 9th, 2009 at 7:10 pm

@mooki:

I’m sure he wants to leave, but can’t because of well you know what…

w/ Ashlee Simpson going BWay (I know), I’m hearing rumors of another starlet heading there as well. Vanessa Hudgens (urgh) has been spotted in NYC recently….
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Ms Agatha said on November 9th, 2009 at 9:40 pm

Carrie Prejean talking to Hannity right now on Fox…. promoting her new book ! … Maybe Ian needs to get some airtime on Fox too
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pattyanne said on November 10th, 2009 at 11:30 am

I think it’s way too late for effective damage control, she might as well give it up and get a regular job now. I read her mother saw the first three minutes of her video and got sick and ran out. Said it’s just Carrie Prejean alone, …..masturbating. How SICK! Just goes to prove that Donald Trump can be fooled by appearances.@Ms Agatha:
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Ms Agatha said on November 10th, 2009 at 12:08 pm

@pattyanne:
….and she used ‘ being alone ‘ on the tape as her defense last night ! ” It’s not that I was with somebody !”
Hannity came to her full defense ..lol…. and Donald much into appearances ? LOL …. he only sees the inner values of women he dates ..lol
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Kate said on November 10th, 2009 at 12:32 pm

@mooki:
because of what? are you referring to Brad and the Book?
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Pattyanne said on November 10th, 2009 at 1:02 pm

It amazes me how Carrie feels justified to make a porn tape simply because she didn’t masturbate with a witness? Ridiculous! What was it then? Voyeurism ? or Exhibitionism? It certainly wasn’t for personal reasons, cough, cough, or she’d not felt the need to video herself. Nah, no way she can justify this and come out smelling like a good, clean , all American girl next door. Especially after her homophobic comments. How dare she!@Ms Agatha:
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Ms Agatha said on November 10th, 2009 at 2:08 pm

@Pattyanne:
She is cashing in on her 5 min of fame … writing her memoires at age 22 ! …. without mentioning the sex tape of course…. so no need to buy the book if you are into sex&scandal….lol

Apropos book… that reminds me of Ian’s book coming out in a couple of weeks ….. BP seems very carefree nowadays ….. AJ not so much…
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mooki said on November 10th, 2009 at 6:50 pm

@Ms Agatha:

Does Carrie not know that Hannity’s the biggest closet case on Fox Noise (well, next to O’Reilly and Greta)?
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