IUC Exclusive: MJ Male Lover Comes Out
Need I say more (READ THIS)
Ever since I revealed my conversations with two of Michael Jackson’s
lovers in my book, Unmasked: The Final Years of Michael Jackson, a
portion of MJ fandom has gone ballistic with the news that their icon
was homosexually inclined. They have been attacking me nonstop online
and calling for a worldwide boycott of my book, even though the book
devotes most of its pages to clearing Jackson of the serious charges
of child molestation that destroyed his career and is almost
universally sympathetic to the singer.
Now, a 35-year old nurse who worked for Jackson’s dermatologist,
Arnold Klein, has revealed details of their affair
seemingly confirming that Jackson had a penchant for (adult) men.
Jason Pfeiffer revealed that their “fling” began after he drove
Jackson home one night.
The real tragedy is that homophobia is still so rampant in our
society that many of Jackson’s so-called “fans” will take this latest
news as a catastrophic revelation that somehow tarnishes the legacy
and reputation of their idol.
No wonder Jackson was forced to go to such lengths throughout his
career to hide his sexual preferences, contributing to his very
unhappy life and tragic end.
Sad!
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I actually think this is helpful in a way to Michael’s legacy. An adult lover comes forward (if indeed he was his lover).
ReplyFirst, in your book, you said, his lover would never betray Michael!!!!! Also, you alledge Michael weighed 100# – please!!! And, so what if he had a lover – WHO CARES!!!! This is not a scandal – why the hype???
ReplyIan nobody cares about MJ. By the way anybody seen the footage of MJ slow dancing with Webster CREEPY!
ReplyNotice Halperin it took 4 and a half hour to get a second comment.Hawk this Jackson stuffon ET and Inside Edition I want to here more Jolie Dish.And no more Cirque de Solei stories either.
Reply@KramerVs.Kramer:
ReplyKvsK … you are STILL a riot! I’ve missed you.
On topic … I honestly believe dressing as a woman in public was a GOOD way for MJ to go undetected. Much better than those goofy masks, which only make people stare MORE. IMO. LOL
ReplyI am glad that Jason came out spoke about his feelings for Michael and his state of mind in those last few weeks. If there ae many that were aware of his realtionship with MJ they should also speak out now and support this because it will help his family understand what he was going through during that time, and his children in years to come. We saw what a fiasco things were in the ANS death and funeral, and it is still hard to say if either Larry or Howard loved her or if it was her money. Jason was not left anything in the will, and I hope that in Michael’s memory he will not be seeling intimate details of their realtionship to tabloids. That would be very disheartening and so unfair to someone he refers to as his soulmate.
“If you enter the world knowing you are loved and you leave the world knowing the same, then everyhting that happnes in between can be dealt with” Michael Jackson
IAN , I like that quote you included in the book, but when you think about it , it shows that MJ was not sure he was loved, and that he was having a hard time dealing with it. One would hardly know when they are leaving this world if they are loved unless it is by their design. Sadly he is more loved after his death , and I think now many are starting to understand this tortured man. His family I would think will carry (some of them) a tremendous amount of guilt with them to their graves. This may sound cold, but it all starts at home, and that is where it usually will end, and it did. I do hope MJ is at peace now.
ReplyExcuse the typos, my right arm is handicapped for awhile, so I am lazy in fixing them, my apologies, I know that awful.
ReplyI found an interesting comment on the site Ian linked to:
Ian Halperin is using the fraudulent 2006 pictures published by New York Times allegedly depicting Michael Jackson in drag while in Saint-Tropez as proof! These pictures were published by New York Daily News and other tabloids at that time, and the following day a retraction was printed because the pictures were confirmed false. That WOMAN in that picture does not have Michael’s chin, his wrists, or his general profile. That girl likewise does not resemble Paris, and Michael wasn’t in France at the time and certainly not walking some dog alone down the streets. This entire story is complete BS and even a fool can see that! I doubt that this “Jason Pfeiffer” guy even exists.
Comment by Derek — 21 Aug
ReplyI dont know – in my opinion, that picture on the left looks like a mannequin and not a real person – sorry, this picture I dont buy.
ReplyBrad Pitt, Angelina Jolie Take Boys Shopping for Gerbils
Friday August 21, 2009
Jolie and Pitt
Angelina Jolie and Brad Pitt arrive at the Los Angeles premiere of “Inglorious Basterds” at the Grauman’s Chinese Theatre on August 10, 2009 in Hollywood, CA.
Jeffrey Mayer/WireImage.com
CelebNews@Usmagazine.com! – Brad Pitt, Angelina Jolie Take Boys Shopping for Gerbils
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Brad Pitt and Angelina Jolie are adding a few new members to the family!
Look back at Brad and Angie’s most romantic moments.
After arriving at their chateau in the South of France, they took sons Maddox, 8, and Pax, 5, to a local pet and garden shop to buy gerbils and goldfish on Thursday.
See cute photos of Maddox — and his wild hair — through the years.
While at the Brignoles, France, store — called Jardinerie du Centre Var — Jolie, wearing a black maxi-dress, reached into the cage to pet the “gerbilles” while Pitt perused the aisles.
The couple stocked up on a cage and gear for their new pets and also bought Maddox a cactus.
See adorable photos of the Jolie-Pitt twins.
One day earlier, the parents took daughters Shiloh, 3, and Zahara, 4, to lunch at the Auberge de Chatueauvert in Correns, France. Their meal consisted of a platter of cold cuts and a mushroom omelette, and the parents drank Rose wine. Both of the girls had stick-on tattoos.
ReplyIt is interesting that Angelina has chosen US Magazine as her mouthpiece , and Brad has chosen People, he once called US a trash tabloid magazine. lol
Reply@mia:
ReplyHI Mia – so where are the “adorable photos of the Jolie-Pitt twins?” I dont see them. Please provide. Peace.
@mia:Odd they only take the children out 2 at a time and always by gender.
ReplyIan youve managed to sink even lower than ever. Thats not MJ, its an actual woman.
ReplyNotice how your groupies turn the subject to everyones favorite never ending snark. They dont even need your little made up clues anymore!
I only hope and pray that Michael may be allowed to rest in peace soon. All that could be said has been said, it’s time to let him go. He suffered so much during his lifetime, that it’s sinful to make his memory suffer now. His life was his own, to do as he wished reguarding his sexuality, if he was Bi, Gay, or Herto it was his business. If i choose to wear a man’s suit, then it is my business….I never believed he molested any children, he was in awe of them, nearly worshiped them, for what he never had, a loving childhood of his own….RIP MJ
ReplyThat was very touching IAN, and i think MJ would thank you himself for it if he could. Never has such a huge celebrity been so misunderstood and ill treated by his non-fans for being what nature made him – a human being. RIP MJ
Reply@ladybert62:
ReplyWell since Ian changed the picture, my comment does not apply – so posters please ignore. Thanks
http://www.accesshollywood.com/heidi-montag-talks-being-a-pop-galaxy-increasing-her-bust-and-spencer-pratts-harsh-words-for-angelina-jolie_article_22000
Heidi Montag disses Brangelina:
“Speaking of Spencer, it’s a Fact he wants to be the new Brad Pitt.
“What’s wrong with the old Brad Pitt?” Tony asked.
“The old Brad Pitt is definitely old,” Heidi said. “I think that’s the key. But, you know, my husband’s going to be — there’s no one like him ever. I think he’s going to be President of the United States. He’s a media mogul. Brad Pitt is just an actor. Spencer Pratt is the guru of whatever he wants to do.”
“Spencer also admired the way Brad dumped Jennifer Aniston for Angelina?” Tony asked about another recent headline Heidi’s husband made.
“No, he doesn’t! No, he doesn’t at all,” Heidi stated. “That is completely fiction! He actually said that is home wrecking, that he feels so bad about Jennifer Aniston, and that he completely doesn’t support them — [Brad and Angelina]. That actually made him not like them as much. Actually he calls [Angelina] a home wrecking hussy, so I don’t think that’s true.”
What the hell does Spencer Pratt do for a living besides talking for his “wife” and being her “manager”?
ReplyWell Ian, all I can say is (to quote “the north” ): there ain’t half so queer as folk. Especially lunatic MJ fans, or Brange fans in fact. You do like to make life difficult for yourself!
ReplyHa! What’s worse, being Michael Jackson in a dress, or being mistaken for Michael Jackson in a dress? And does anyone find it a bit odd that MJ’s gay lover came out in a magazine named “Woman’s Day”? I mean, it would be odd to find it between articles on “Easy recipes for gals on the go” and “How to manage unruly children”. But maybe Australian women’s magazines are more randy than I thought . . .
Lastly, I’d no idea that dermatologists offered so many services – in addition to getting your blemishes covered, you can apparently find fake prescriptions, surrogate mothers and gay lovers. And here I thought those bondage magazines in my dermatologist’s waiting room were there by mistake.
ReplyDemythologization Of MJ should not be confused with ‘ trashing ‘ . Even if we take pleasure in seeing the world turned upside down occasionally, we are getting very blase hearing our Idol wore no clothes…… but our ears will prick when we learn he wore women’s clothes. There is no such a thing as a a ‘normal’ a priori sexuality.We must realize that transvestism is not always a matter of personal choice. There can be certain genetic elements that force sone to seek the lifestyle of a different gender. One should only make statements when one has got familiar enough with the matter because half knowledge can be dangerous.
ReplyNoone needed Ian`s book to clear Micheal Jackson`s name as the trial was replayed by actors in a weekly TV series that quoted nearly word for word. Even I saw it in Europe and I am no Jackson fan! Micheal`s name was cleared the monent the verdict was released! Unfortunately for him the damage was already done!
ReplySo much for the need to publish an “exclusive” book that consists to more than 50% of said trial.
@mia:
ReplyI absolutely needed that book…. I am not as smart as you are
@I’m on the bidet:diversification of offer…
ReplyI’ve come to believe in MJ’s innocence in the matter of child molestation. Watching the video of his outrage at even the thought of someone accusing him of that convinces me.
It’s not hard to imagine he had had gay lovers. He certainly needed “love and warmth” from a man. Lord knows, he didn’t get any, or much from his dad!
ReplyDo you want to say that every man who did not get love and affection from his father will become gay
Replyor a gay is a man who did not get love from his dad ?!
@meg:
Every man?
ReplyWhy do you want to ask such a question?
1.-MJ was a GAY MAN, everybody knew that, so, What was the problem?….What’s up now?.
2.- Brad and Angie are in France, making the love all the days. IAN: 07th child is on the way!!!. NOT BREAK-UP FOR THEM!!!!!
ReplyThis family can’t even get his burial date right for the X time ? Total disheveled family of a Piranha School Of Divas …. so tired of it…enough !!! Get the man buried, pronto !
Replyhttp://www.answers.com/topic/disheveled
Michael, and his brothers were treated horribly by their father. He pushed and pushed until he got what HE wanted out of them poor boys. I watched The Jacksons: An American Dream, and if that movie is close to the facts, that man should have been shot. I am sorry for my harshness, but I have been abused by my mom, and it was not pleasant. Mental abuse is very hard to recover from, but it can be beat only by God.
ReplyI agree with Pattyanne. He has been through enough in his lifetime. I wish he could see the outpouring of love for him. When I found out about his death, I was crushed. I have been a long time fan of his, and I feel a part of me died with him. I still find it hard to believe he is gone. Rest In Peace, Michael. We love you very much.
ReplyIAN: NOT BREAK UP.
Angelina Jolie and Brad Pitt ‘To Spend $45m on French Love Nest’.
Angelina Jolie and Brad Pitt are set to defy rumors they’re heading for splitsville — by splashing out $45million on a French chateau, according to new reports.
http://www.showbizspy.com/article/190949/angelina-jolie-and-brad-pitt-to-spend-45m-on-french-love-nest.html
ReplyIan, really, why should anyone condemn Michael for his sexual orientation – whatever it truthfully was? We all loved him for the kind, wonderful, loving, caring, generous, extremely talented human being he was. He lived a high profile life with no privacy. Anyone going through everything Michael went through is bound to suffer physically and emotionaly. Imagine going through an extremely personal crisis and, in the meantime, still having to perform to perfection in front of thousands of fans. I’m sure that was very difficult for Michael to endure. Is he the only gay man in this world? Is he the only person addicted to painkillers? (remeber the Pepsi fiasco??) All I can say is, our dear Michael left this earth much too soon, and if Dr. Conrad Murray is on suicide watch – there is good reason for it. If I were him (first of all, I NEVER would have betrayed Michael by killing him), I would give myself a shot of potassium nitrate and stop my heart from beating because I have deprived the world of the most wonderful human being that was ever put on this earth – or ever will! RIP my dearest Michael…until we meet again.
Reply@Astro:
Reply…and WHO is telling all these stories ? And WHO wants to make believe without any proof ? As far as I know, they may be still sitting in L.A. behind closed curtains…..I have no idea if any of it is true or not…. just because their PR is saying so …. makes me more curious and suspicious than anything else ! Looks more like they are hiding from something than anything else….UBS anyone ?
I have a question about these alledged lovers of Michael Jackson. Why did they choose now to come forward after Michael died? That is weird to me.
Reply@Ms Agatha:
Since when do you need proof? But here is it anyway:
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Reply@mia:
http://www.facebook.com/pages/I-Believe-In-Santa-Claus/37179017098
Reply@Ms Agatha:
Yeah I know you don`t believe facts and your own eyes! You would rather believe what you WANT to be true without a single proof! That`s because you are one of the few supporters of IUC left!
Reply@mia:
http://www.terra.dti.ne.jp/~okawa/erz/list/Last%20Deffender%20Camelot.JPG …..
ReplyI agree, Marcelle. I myself was addicted to painkillers. I had to have 7 teeth pulled, and I had atleast 3 painkillers, not to mention the drugs I got at the hospital. It was only by the healing power of God that I was delievered from the addiction. Michael has been through heck and back, and he never faltered. My heart goes out to Prince, Paris, and Blanket, and the rest of the family. He gave us so much. I will never forget him. I never got the chance to meet him, but I know him through his music. I just recently bought the Live In Bucharest Dangerous Tour, and my chin dropped to the floor. Especially when he took off using a jet pack. He sure knew how to give a great show.
ReplyBreaking news: From what I just read, it has been officially declared that MJ’s death was a homicide. Where are you John? I am sure you have more info for us on this topic! I look forward to reading what you say. Peace.
ReplyMIchael Jackson’s Death Ruled Homicide….just on the national news
ReplyI just watched CNN, and Michael’s death is a homocide now. I hope Dr. Conrad Murray gets what he has coming.
ReplyWith the evidencies. All tha tabloids stop the breakup rumors!!!!
Angelina Jolie and Brad Pitt ‘Want Daughter to Become an Actress’
Ok, Taking decissions together…Daddy and Mommy are working as a TEAM. Lovely.
http://www.showbizspy.com/article/191014/angelina-jolie-and-brad-pitt-want-daughter-to-become-an-actress.html.
ReplySo it was Propofol and not a mysterious lung decease that killed Micheal Jackson! Who would have thought?
Jackson Died from Lethal Levels of Propofol
Posted Aug 25th 2009 1:45AM by TMZ Staff
Michael Jackson had lethal levels of Propofol in his system when he died, this according to a search warrant affidavit filed in Houston.
Dr. Conrad Murray told cops he had been treating Jackson for 6 weeks for insomnia — giving him 50 milligrams of Propofol every night through an IV.
Murray told cops he feared Jackson was getting addicted so he reduced the dosage to 25 mg.
The morning Jackson died, Dr. Murray gave Jackson valium at 1:30 AM. Murray said the valium didn’t work so he gave the singer an IV injection of lorazepam — an anti-anxiety drug. Murray told cops Jackson was still awake, so he then gave him midazolam — a sedative.
Murray gave Jackson more drugs. He says at 10:40 AM, he administered 25 mg of Propofol. Dr. Murray told cops Jackson repeatedly demanded the drug.
As we first reported, cops found 8 bottles of Propofol in Jackson’s house after he died, but they do not know where it was purchased.
Cops also found Valium, Tamsulosin, Lorazepam, Temazepam, Clonazepam, Trazodone and Tizanidine, along with the Propofol.
The various drugs were prescribed by Dr. Murray, Dr. Arnold Klein and Dr. Allan Metzger.
Dr. Murray reportedly told cops 10 minutes after administering Propofol … he “left Jackson’s side to go to the restroom and relieve himself. Murray stated he was out of the room for about 2 minutes maximum. Upon his return, Murray noticed that Jackson was no longer breathing.”
Dr. Murray says he began CPR and at some point ran downstairs and asked the chef to send up Prince Jackson, the eldest son, then Murray continued performing CPR.
Dr. Murray says he noticed that Jackson wasn’t breathing at around 11 AM. He was then on the cell phone for 47 minutes with 3 separate calls, from 11:18 to 12:05. The 911 call came in at 12:21 PM …. a much longer delay than originally reported.
Dr. Murray told cops other docs had administered Propofol to Jackson, including Las Vegas Dr. David Adams. Dr. Murray said he was at a cosmetologist’s office where Dr. Adams gave Jackson Propofol.
Interestingly, according to the warrant, Dr. Murray refused to sign the death certificate at the UCLA Medical Center.
UPDATE: If Dr. Murray is charged with a crime, there’s a statement in the affidavit that could be evidence of a consciousness of guilt. The document also states both “UCLA doctors and L.A. Fire Dept. paramedics stated that Dr. Murray had only disclosed that he had given the medication Lorazepam [Ativan] to Jackson prior to his medical emergency.” Dr. Murray did not disclose that he had given Jackson Propofol.
Replythis is NO surprise, not only did you mention this before several times, but c’mon, is it really that much of a surprise? nothing that’s coming out has been a surprised, the men supressed his life to the point where he probably paid people off to not talk about a dinner they had…more and more will come out in the years and years to come
ReplyBangie aint breaking up until oscar noms are over he’s still got TOL coming out.Will Angie try to get knocked up again of course she will. BP is very dumb.
Reply@ladybert62:
Yes, doc Murray is in very serious trouble.
Michael Jackson death: Now all the world will know the truth, says La Toya Jackson By Mirror.co.uk 25/08/2009
Grieving La Toya Jackson said yesterday she was relieved the truth about her brother’s death was finally being made public.
La Toya, 53, also said she longed for the moment when those responsible for killing Jacko would be forced to answer for their actions.
She added: “I am thankful to the investigators for uncovering the truth to the world. I look forward to the day that justice will be served to all the parties involved in my brother’s homicide.”
La Toya was speaking hours after a leaked report said Jackson’s death is being treated as homicide.
Weeks ago she publicly claimed that her brother had been murdered by members of his “shadowy entourage” for his money.
Court documents have revealed Jackson had lethal amounts of the anaesthetic propofol in his body.
They say his personal doctor Conrad Murray admitted giving him the drug on the day he died.
Dr Murray allegedly told police he caved in when Jackson begged him for drugs to help him sleep.
On the day the 50-year-old singer died, Dr Murray reportedly first gave him the sedatives valium, lorazepam and midazolam in the early hours. According to details on a search warrant affidavit, when they failed to make Jacko sleep he administered propofol using a drip.
When he examined the singer minutes later he had stopped breathing. About 90 minutes later he had a heart attack.
Police are now investigating three phone calls Dr Murray is said to have made on his mobile after leaving the room where Jacko lay.
One call was to Jacko’s personal assistant Michael Amir Williams asking him to send security upstairs. But the identities of the two other people Dr Murray called have not been revealed. Police are believed to know who they are.
Crucially all three calls were made before Jackson’s bodyguard Alberto Alvarez contacted emergency services. Dr Murray made no mention of the calls, which lasted a total of 47 minutes, when questioned by detectives.
They learned of them only after getting his phone records.
The first call was made at 11.18am, some 17 minutes after Dr Murray said he first discovered that Jackson was not breathing.
He ended his last call at 12.05pm, 16 minutes before Alvarez called 911.
All calls were made at the time Dr Murray claims to have been trying to revive Jacko.
Dr Murray’s lawyer Ed Chernoff yesterday said some of the information on the affidavit was speculation by detectives. He said: “Much of what was in the search warrant affidavit is factual. However, unfortunately, much is police theory.
“Most egregiously, the timeline reported by police was not obtained through interviews with Dr Murray, as implied by the affidavit.
“Dr Murray simply never told investigators that he found Michael Jackson at 11am not breathing.
“He also never said that he waited a mere 10 minutes before leaving to make several phone calls. In fact, Dr. Murray never said that he left Michael Jackson’s room to make phone calls at all.”
Mr Chernoff did not deny that the calls had been made. The lawyer refused to comment on claims that Dr Murray could face criminal charges over the reported homicide ruling.
He said that many “anonymous” claims made since Jackson’s death had subsequently been proven wrong.
Police also say Dr Murray failed to tell paramedics or hospital staff he had given Jackson propofol.
He allegedly only came clean about administering the drug two days later.
Dr Murray is also said to have told detectives he had been treating Jacko for insomnia for about six weeks.
He said he had been giving him 50 milligrams of propofol every night using an intravenous drip. He then cut the dose to 25 milligrams when he feared the singer was getting addicted.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/celebs/news/2009/08/25/michael-jackson-death-now-all-the-world-will-know-the-truth-says-la-toya-jackson-115875-21624017/
It was the drugs all along that were responsible for the mess of MJ and ultimately his death. The slime that call themselves docs who gave the drugs to Jackson – the law will go after them. They are no doubt investigating many of them as we speak, not just those who treated Jackson, but others out there also. Enablers/pushers like Murray who claim to be doctors are going to be hit hard following Jackson’s death. Jackson’s death and the homicide investigation is opening up a whole new door on doctors who treat stars with drugs. Sure, it was Jackson who had drug issues and who ultimately took the drugs, but these docs started him up on them, and continued to keep him hooked knowing full well the risks and what would happen. They played a dangerous games. They knew the drugs are highly addictive, and that they are also deadly and they got Jackson hooked and kept him hanging on – all for their own fame, money and the good life they thought they would have a result. it’s all coming back on them now.
Reply**************BREAKING***************
*********JACKO WAS DEAD 47 MINUTES AS DOC MADE 3 CALLS, HE LIED ABOUT JACKSON BEING ALIVE. HE LIED ABOUT EVERYTHING. HE PUMPED JACKSON FULL OF DRUGS. KNOWING HE WAS ALREADY HOOKED ON DRUGS, HE GOT HIM HOOKED DEEPER.
Jacko ‘dead 47 mins’ as doc made 3 calls
By DAVID WILLETTS
in Los Angeles
Published: Today
MICHAEL Jackson’s doctor Conrad Murray was accused last night of spending 47 minutes phoning another medic, a lawyer and a mystery associate after the star stopped breathing.
Panicking Murray rang fellow doc Arnold Klein for advice on what to do as Jacko lay dying.
Police probe … Conrad Murray
He also allegedly called a LAWYER before finally telling a security guard to dial 911 and summon paramedics to the star’s Los Angeles home.
Both Murray and Klein are being investigated by police over their role in Jacko’s death, which is being treated as homicide.
Murray has claimed he tried to revive the star, but leaked court papers reveal he spent 47 minutes making three separate phone calls around the time Jacko died.
Drugs riddle … Dr Arnold Klein
And last night Dr Steven Hoefflin – who treated Jacko for 25 years – said: “Murray definitely called Klein because Klein taught him how to administer propofol.
“There were two in-state calls then one out-of-state. He was calling an attorney – he had to because Michael was dead.
“He tried to cover it up by telling everyone Michael had a weak pulse, but Michael was dead.”
Lethal
Dr Hoefflin, 63, a respected plastic surgeon who is carrying out his own probe into Jacko’s death, added: “Murray would have counted on Klein to be the source of propofol and guide him in its use.”
Probe … Dr Steven Hoefflin
TOM VICKERS
Skin specialist Klein is being probed for giving potentially lethal prescription drugs to addict Jacko.
Murray has admitted giving the star FOUR different painkillers, including propofol, on the night he died. But he never told paramedics he had administered the knock-out dose of propofol, drastically undermining their attempt to save Jacko.
The leaked warrant also reveals Klein has ignored a subpoena demanding he hand over his records.
Murray’s lawyer last night claimed much of the affidavit was “police theory” and contained inaccuracies.
Court papers show Jacko, 50, had “lethal levels” of propofol when he died in June. The drug is used to anaesthetise patients for major ops. Authorities have demanded records from at least five doctors, but only Murray is named as the target of a manslaughter probe.
d.willetts@the-sun.co.uk
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Replyhttp://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/2607012/Michael-Jackson-dead-47-mins-as-doc-made-3-phone-calls.html
THE GOOD DOCTOR IS GIVING EVIDENCE ON OTHER DOCTORS WHO ADMINISTERED THE DRUG AT SOME POINT, WONDER IF HE HOPES BY DOING THIS IT WILL REDUCE THE CHARGES AND HE CAN WORK OUT A DEAL.
The affidavits attached to the search warrants also revealed two names of other Las Vegas who were implicated by Murray in his police interview with Los Angeles detectives. One doctor is an anesthesiologist and the other is a dentist.
http://www.lasvegasnow.com/Global/story.asp?S=10989725
Replyhttp://x17online.com/celebrities/michael_jackson/is_michael_jackson_still_alive-08252009.php
Reply@Guest:
ReplyThat was freaky, if it is intended to convince people MJ is alive, seemed a bit short for MJ to me, and I doubt it would take this long to surface if in fact this was real, or that he would do this to his family, unless of course someone was threatening his life anyway. Hoax
@John:
ReplyHi John – thanks for that post – very interesting. I especially like your final paragraph – I agree with your conclusions. Thanks for sharing.
I hope and pray that justice is swift and sure. You would think a doctor would know better then to give Michael drug after drug, then administer the Diprivan on top of all the other medication he was given. Where was the doctor’s brain?? I am outraged.
Reply@Cheryl_Gross:
ReplyHi Cheryl – looks to me like the doctor’s brain was in his pocket (as in wallet) and he was thinking only of his bank account and not of his patient!
Hi ladybert62,
ReplyHow long have you been a fan?? I have been a fan since Off The Wall. When I heard about his death, my heart is aching. It has been 2 months, and it is still painful. I hope it gets better soon.
@Cheryl_Gross:
ReplyHI Cheryl – well I guess I have been a fan since he a little boy in the Jackson 5! I am sure that he feels the love of fans such as you! Peace.
@ladybert62:
ReplyI heard he was the sweetest man anyone could have ever met. I believe it. I have heard of the Jackson 5, but when Off The Wall came out, that is when I became a huge fan. I am sad that he is gone. I am also mad, that Conrad Murray cared more for the money, then he did for Michael. Because of that Michael was taken from us. I watched his memorial, and when Usher sang Gone Too Soon, I lost it. My heart still hurts. I hope the pain eases. I am driving my friends nuts with all the Michael Jackson music I am playing LOL.
@Cheryl_Gross:
ReplyMaybe we can exchange email addresses, and write from time to time.
That was for you, Ladybert62.
Reply@Cheryl_Gross:
ReplyHi Cheryl, did “Unmasked” change your perception of Michael ok any way ? It did for me.
http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1619633/20090826/heidi_montag.jhtml
“For anyone who thought Heidi Montag was mirroring Britney Spears’ career, the “Hills” star and her husband, Spencer Pratt, make yet another musical comparison: Michael Jackson.
In an interview with “The Hills: The After Show” host Jessi Cruickshank, Montag said she was on par with Jackson, with Pratt calling his wife “the new, modern-day, 2010 Michael Jackson.”
Heidi & Spencer Hit The Beach In The Bahamas
Pratt continues that with Jackson’s death, Heidi might now be possessed with Jackson’s “divine spirit,” adding that Heidi is “way bigger” than Jackson. “Michael Jackson’s in heaven,” he said. “The Holy Spirit now has extra Michael Jackson juice, so boom! For all we know, Heidi gets possessed with some of that Michael Jackson divine spirit.”
is he serious? this douche does absolutely nothing for a living but spit out shit about how his “wife” is the next this person or the next and she’s nothing but a life-size reality TV Barbie doll.
Reply@Cheryl_Gross:
ReplyHi Cheryl – that was a nice offer! But I dont post my email address on the internet (at least not voluntarily – ha ha). But what you can do is go to female first and become a registered member (like I did udner the name ladybert63) and then after a certain number of posts are made to their site (I dont know the exact number as I am still new there myself) then members can exchange private messages to each other (at least that is how I understand it). So if you try that route then perhaps in the near future we can talk more! Just an idea. Peace
@mooki:
ReplyI am with you mooki, can we say that again ? Is he freaking serious? What a pompous little turf. I don’t follow these two much , are they even a real couple or to they beard for each other! He is seriously trying too hard.
@Kate:
from what I know she beards for him.
Reply@mooki:
ReplyThanks , mooki, I thought I had heard that as well, they sure try hard don’t they lol, they are going to give Brangie a run, they just need to get people to actually care.
Explosive new Youtube video, Scientology about to be busted on fraud charges!:
Replyhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x2GPg0zuzg4&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fforums%2Ewhyweprotest%2Enet%2F7%2Dchit%2Dchat%2Fcool%2Daffadavit%2Dyoutube%2D51948%2F&feature=player_embedded#t=374
@mooki:
Thank you so very much, Mooki!
At the conclusion, they leave an address where one can get more:
http://evil.Scientology.googlepages.com/
ReplyOkay well, in other news Cindy Sheehan just does not give up, she has decided now to protest Obama’s war, lol, next.
Dominick Dunne, died today, one of my very fav writers, loved his articles in Vanity Fair. Poor guy had a horrible time with his own daughter’s demise years ago I believe.
For any of you smokers out there, beware, that is not a acceptable form of torture lmao. Make sure you blow the smoke away from whoever you are pissed off at.
Yikes, some people just do not respect the dead, poor Teddy will forever be remembered for many things, Rick on one blog site did not want to watch the coverage, why, well, in his words , ” he says:
August 27th, 2009 at 2:36 pm
Who wants to watch an old drunk sexual assaulter and murderer’s funeral just because he inherited enough money to buy a Senate seat for 47 years. I’d rather watch Whoopie Goldberg drooling over Baba Wawa.” –hmm-, see sometimes no matter how much good you do in this world, it will not erase the bad.
Are you listening Brangelina, that may be your epitaph one day…cheating , lying, and whoring does and will not go away, no matter how much you good media you buy with donations, no matter how many people you try to help with donations, sincere or not.
Michael got lucky, he is more loved today than he was alive.
Replyhttp://glosslip.com/2009/08/27/did-tom-cruise-physically-abuse-members-of-the-church-of-scientology/
Cruise is becoming more and more like Miscavige every day, beating the Sea Org. staff…
Reply@mooki:
ReplyHI mooki – thanks for sharing that article – it was indeed interesting – should be interesting to see what TC’s response to the allegations is like and their concern for Katie Holmes/Suri was touching. Thanks again.
Gerard takes a crack at Jennifer Aniston
http://www.tmz.com/2009/08/27/gerard-takes-a-crack-at-jennifer-aniston/
Reply@ladybert62:
ReplyWe can talk through this site. I am new to this site, so I do not know how to operate this site very well. I got this website from the book Unmasked: The Final Years of Micheal Jackson. I thought this would be a great place to talk with other Michael Jackson fans, so I can talk with someone who is a fan also.
@Kate:
ReplyHi Kate, yes it did. I have gained a greater appreciation for Michael. I am so sad that he had to die. I was so, and I am still very sad.
Around the time “The Firm” (1993) was released, Karina Lombard was a promising actress. An interviewer asked her how was Tom Cruise as a kisser.
ReplyHer reply was not complementary, but also, not mean.
I read later that Tom Cruise had her blacklisted.
This was around the time that TC was building on his power. Later, he’d brag about being “the most powerful celeb in Hwd”.
@Kate:
ReplyWhat was your thoughts on the book?? How long have you been a fan of Michael Jackson’s? I have been hooked ever since Off The Wall. I wish there was something we, fans can do to honor him.
@Kate:
ReplyThe most perfect man that ever live was crucified. He couldn’t please everyone, obviously.
I was just catching up on what was written. I read what Mia wrote. When Murray started CPR, Michael was on the bed. It is very impossible to do CPR on a bed. The patient would have to be on a flat hard surface. When Murray was doing chest compressions, he was pushing Michael down with the bed. He was not being very effective in his efferts(bad spelling lol) The thing that bothers me about the whole thing is that before Murray called 911, he made 3 phone calls lasting 47 minutes. If I were Murray, I would taken care of Michael first, called 911 first, then made what phone calls I needed to make. If Murray had not left the room, Michael would still be here today.
Reply@Cheryl_Gross:
Hi Cheryl, well to avoid being redundant, as I have written several times already on here about IAN’s book, I will just copy my last comments on it. I think you will find most that whine about it have not read it. This was from last week-another thread:
I understand that Michael is finally going to be buried. I have IAN’s book here in front of me. Great book by the way. I really love the way people write book reviews that have not read the book? Or have you? What part did you not like? I will tell you the parts that I liked.
I thought it was really wonderful the way IAN lets’ the reader know straight up that he went into this pissed off, and thinking he could bang this book out and prove Michael Jackson was guilty of child molestration . I think many can identify with the outrage that was felt when OJ was acquitted, and here he was watching this go down, and thinking , “oh hell no, not again!” I loved that passion for writing the book. I loved that he looked at his own young daughter and thouht, there is just no freaking way I can stand by and do -nothing.
What I loved more than that however , is that he was honest enough with himself to recognize as he went along, through talking with people, that the allegations against Michael could not possibly be true, and that he had been wrong about him, and he had no problem admitting that, not only admitting it, but changing his focus on the book and just letting the leads tell the truth. Five years is a long time to research and follow someone, but I can see on a topic like this why it would be so important.
I loved the book because IAN let us feel how these allegations destroyed the heart and soul of this kind gentle man. I grew up with his music, I never wanted him to be guilty, but I thought he was, my husband thought he was, until he read this book. I loved that IAN let us feel his humor, his sadness , his frustration, and and his symptathy at this whole mess. When he tells the story of how Michael was physially checked it was a pivotal moment in the book for me. As a mother, I cried. I can not imagine my own son having to face something like that.
I loved the fact the book was not fluff, based on his music, because we have plenty of those, I loved that it showed Michael was human, that it told us what the sources said but let me as a reader make up my mind. That some people said one thing, and others said something else. I like that IAN did not try to sway us one way or another. He painted a clear picture of how his downfall came about, how he got mixed up with the slimy people that used him. I like the pictures in the book, and I thought the quotes by the friends who were named were sometimes funny and sometimes touching.
I found the transcripts interesting, and even more so that now Jordan Chandler has come out and discussed this. So the naysayers can say what they would like about this book, I would be willing to bet some prime property that 90 percent of them have not read it. I would bet as well, it will be the same song and dance when the next book comes out. You just don’t like IAN, and that is all this is about. We do, and we do not in any way at all feel duped. So as Michael liked to say, “Go Razzle Dazzle em some where else”
we are just fine, thank you very much!
Thank you IAN ! Rocking on!
Reply@Astro:
ReplyYou have to admit Astro, Jen has a cute little butt, eh? lol
I am only through the 7th Chapter, but the part that I was furious with is when Sneddon ordered photos to be taken of Michael nude. I felt that he felt. What I liked the most is that he finally proved Michael was innocent. I wish Michael had been alive to hear that. I think it woud have done his heart good. Evan Chandler, well lets just say I do not think very highly of him, nor Janet Arvizio. They were gold diggers, that is all they were.(Sometimes I would skip ahead and read.) LOL
Reply@Kate:
ReplyWhen you have a dead kid then you can bitch about Cindy Sheehan. Until then, STFU.
@Kate:
August 27th, 2009 at 2:36 pm
Who wants to watch an old drunk sexual assaulter and murderer’s funeral just because he inherited enough money to buy a Senate seat for 47 years. I’d rather watch Whoopie Goldberg drooling over Baba Wawa.” –hmm-, see sometimes no matter how much good you do in this world, it will not erase the bad.
Then run for Congress yourself, or STFU. Not everyone is so full of hatred as you.
Reply@mia:
So it was Propofol and not a mysterious lung decease that killed Micheal Jackson! Who would have thought?
LMAO you do a good job of keeping these sycophants of Ian straight.
ReplyKate, i saw one photo of Gerard and Jen from the back in which she has her arm around his shoulders, while he has his hand resting on her rather bodacious butt! Haha. Guess Gerard knows how to appreciate a real woman. Loved him in 300, that was an awesome movie. And Jennifer never fails to entertain. I especially was fond of Derailed, so unexpected from Jen, but she played it rather well….costs too much to go to the theater these days to waste it on bad films such as Wanted, or Troy….wink!!
Reply@LavondaFaylene:
Let me guess, you have my name on a little red button that flashes when I post, so you can run over hee and use your little four letters. lol
So, which part are you upset with, the quote from Rick, or the fact I said good does not erase bad. Just curious. I would not want to take credit for Rick’s comments. wink wink.
Reply@Kate:
Contemplate before you hate, Kate:
Do you like your state and not the federal government controlling the curriculum of your kids’ schools? Thank Ted Kennedy.
Do you like being able to vote starting at age 18? Thank Ted Kennedy.
Do you think low-income people should get help with heating their homes in the winter? Thank the man.
Do you think the federal government should fund cancer research? Yep.
Do you believe that Meals on Wheels is a good thing? Ditto.
Does your daughter (or you, if you’re female) like playing soccer or basketball or softball at school? That’d be because of Ted Kennedy.
Do you think that disabled people should be able to go to school? Have access to buildings? Not be discriminated against for housing and loads of other things? Kennedy, big time.
You like your cheap airfares? You know the answer.
You think people on welfare oughta get jobs? So did Kennedy.
You think mental institutions should treat people humanely? Yeah, so did your new friend, Ted Kennedy.
You believe that the Defense Department should provide child care for the kids of soldiers? Kennedy did.
You think a woman shouldn’t lose her job if she gets pregnant? You think 100,000 more cops on the street’s a good idea? You think poor kids should have health care? You think soldiers in Iraq should have the proper armor? Just tick those things off the list. Some of them would have been accomplished without him; many would not have been.
You agreed with Ted Kennedy far, far more than you want to think you did, dear conservatives. Still, go ahead and dance your mad jigs on his still-warm corpse. Why not? We on the left certainly did when Jerry Falwell, Strom Thurmond, and Jesse Helms kicked. Hell, one asshole blogger even celebrated the death of Ann Coulter’s father. But know that you dance in ignorance. Ask Orrin Hatch.
But, of course, you want to address the far more pressing issue of whether or not Ted Kennedy killed Mary Jo Kopechne back at Chappaquiddick all those decades ago, no matter what the investigations said. There’s only a couple of things to say about that: The glib response is, “Yeah, and Thomas Jefferson nailed his slaves. What’s your point?” More directly, Kennedy asked the people of Massachusetts if they wanted him to quit. They did not. The rest of the nation may have not wanted him as president, but for Massachusetts, Chappaquiddick quickly became a settled issue and distant history. That’s all that mattered to keep him in the Senate, just like Louisiana will have to judge whether or not a prostitute-lovin’ David Vitter should go back. That’s democracy, gang, like it or not.
Reply@Kate:
ReplyTell us about your kid who died in a war few understand, Kate. I would love to hear it.
@LavondaFaylene:
Actually if you two read the book you would know that it does not say that MJ was going to die from Apha anything, but I digresss, however it does go into the drugs …and that he was in grave danger. Reading comprehension seems to be a problem today.
IAN, didn’t you say you would be back about this time, things are getting a little testy, hope you having a nice tour. Should be about up if I remember correctly…tap tap tap…:) or in a few more days or so. you have been missed. I think that is why these naughty girls are coming to visit today.
Reply@LavondaFaylene:
ReplyWho do you suppose she wants for he President at this point? The woman needs couseling, and to be kept away from the President, she is mentally unstable. jmo. Don’t lecture me about grief, been there, done that.
@LavondaFaylene:
ReplyHate, lol, omgosh, Lavonda darling, go back and read, I did not write that about Ted Kennedy. Did you not see my comment, yikes, some people have no respect for the dead, I was quoting the person who wrote it. Those were not my words. Cool your jets. The point was, that some people not matter how much good they do, their mistakes will not be forgotten, and the message was meant for the two fake PR whores who I do not hate but feel immensely sorry for. Again, do not lecture me. Read..more..carefully..please.
@Pattyanne:
lol yes. she is a cutie pie, never ceases to entertain.
And the walls come tumbling down…
Reply@LavondaFaylene:
ReplyLavonda,
These folks can’t see the forest through the trees. All this nonsense of some lung disease. Shoot, Ian’s lettin’ his mouth overload his butt.
@Kate:
Reply…lol…that’s why they always come in twos : One can write and one can read….comprehensively ? …now, you are asking for much too much lol
@Ms Agatha:
ReplyYes, unbelievable really. This comment was particulary offensive. -
LavondaFaylene said on August 27th, 2009 at 8:15 pm
@Kate:
When you have a dead kid then you can bitch about Cindy Sheehan. Until then, STFU.
@Kate:
ReplyLa Von da de Riffraff ….. I think I am asking Ian to ban this hoi polloi talking
@Ms Agatha:
No, don’t bother, let them have their say, no big deal. IAN is not around right now anway. I am sure they were not aware.
let them blather away, I know someone will chat with them from here on out,
Reply@Kate:
Reply@LavondaFaylene:
ReplyThe book said he had Alpha 1. I am so confused.
@Alif:
we all know why…
the UN has just foiled an attempt at a Co$ infiltration:
Replyhttp://www.tdg.ch/geneve/actu/onu-mis-echec-tentative-infiltration-scientologues-2009-08-27
http://www.nationalenquirer.com/oprah_winfret_is_a_death_star_new_network_stalled/celebrity/67208
Oprah’s OWN network looks like a no-go
Reply@mooki:
ReplyDear mooki – thanks for that article – however, my french is not good enough to interpret it – can you recap for me what it said? Thanks.
@Kate:
ReplyLOL yes someone will, just won’t be me. I don’t tell people to STFU! So rude and unacceptable but oh well…sigh!
@LavondaFaylene:
Extremely dumb.
Reply@LavondaFaylene:
Even dumber. Double dumb in fact. Dumb dumb then. Brilliant!
ReplyMJ love RIP ! <3
Reply<3 <3 LOVE MJ!
ReplyMichael Jackson Coroner Report — HOMICIDE
Posted Aug 28th 2009 2:34PM by TMZ Staff
Michael Jackson Coroner Report The L.A. County Coroner has just officially announced the cause of Michael Jackson’s death — Acute Propofol intoxication.
The report says “other conditions contributing to death: Benzodiazepine effect.” Benzodiazepines are a group of drugs (see below) used to treat anxiety and insomnia.
The manner of death is ruled: “HOMICIDE.”
The Coroner did not release the full autopsy report — just a press notice. It goes on:
The drugs PROPOFOL and LORAZEPAM (Ativan) were found to be the primary drugs responsible for Mr. Jackson’s death.
Other drugs detected were: Midazolam (Versed), Diazepam (Valium), Lidocaine (topical anesthetic) and Ephedrine (used to treat hypotension associated with anesthesia).
The final Coroner’s report, including the toxicology report, will remain on security hold, per the LAPD.
The Jackson family just released a statement:
“The Jackson family again wishes to commend the actions of the Coroner, the LAPD and other law enforcement agencies, and looks forward to the day that justice can be served.”
ReplyDoes not look good for Dr. Conrad Murray.
Reply@Cheryl_Gross:
ReplyHope “Dr.” Murray (aka quack-murray) saved up enough moola to pay for a good defense lawyer! He is going to need big bucks!
Guess he was hoping he would not get caught , thought he pulled the wool over everyone’s eyes, will this become the worlds top discussion? Guess there was incriminating evidence.Do we want him to have a good lawyer? Isn’t that like giving one to a mom when it has been revealed she has committed the ulitmate fraud ? Nah, let her and him quiver as their neurons…are spread out like peanut butter with fear and anxiety. Money does not always buy everyone. Gone to far. Doc should have followed suit, guess he did not have a good fixer someone who could make sure the drug crash has all but been erased…scratches and scruffs on messy kitchen floor, like mommy can. What’s a fella to do, guess he could not call Madonna, or Richard, or Bill, oh well, he will have to go to court , tap tap tapping on the gavel. oh wait, I think that was gravel, never mind, wrong thread,lol
Reply@Bitsy Mae:
ReplyIt’s like being a vulture picking the rest of the meat off the bones over here, Bitsy. Let’s go play over at Gull Dung for awhile.
@ladybert62:
ReplyI think burning him at the stake would be a bit too much. LOL. Just joking.
@Kate:
ReplyI stand by that comment. If you have lost a child in a war you do not understand then you can criticize Cindy Sheehan. Period. If not, you have no right. Dead children lost to war are not a fit topic even for this shitty site. I am waiting…….
I would like to know something. Why did he(Dr. Murray) did what he did. He is a doctor for goodness sake. You would think that, being a doctor he has to follow an ethical code. He failed to live up to that. I have never heard of a doctor doing that. I hope he loses his license. I hope The Jacksons make him eat his license. Want ketchup or mustard with your license, Dr. Murray?? LOL.
Reply@ladybert62:
English translation:
“The UN has foiled the attempted infiltration of Scientologists
CULTS | An accredited NGOs would serve as a Trojan horse for a “summit” organized covertly by the Church of Scientology.
ALAIN JOURDAN | 28.08.2009 | 00:00
The Church of Scientology has tried to pass the gates of the Palais des Nations, but could not do it. Initially, the 6th Annual International Summit on Human Rights was held at the UN. Its organizers, Des jeunes pour les droits de l’homme (Youth for Human Rights) and Village Suisse ONG, had to fall back on the quiet lounges of the Hotel Intercontinental. The proximity of these two organizations with the Church of Scientology eventually arouse suspicion, prompting the UN not to lend meeting room.
Des jeunes pour les droits de l’homme , whose statutes have been deposited in Switzerland, is a direct offshoot of the American Youth For Human Rights International, known as one of the satellites of Scientology. French Martine Rhein and Belgian Christian Mirre came to Geneva to oversee the staging of the conference which opens today. They make no secret of their membership in the organization founded by Ron Hubbard, but they ensure that there is no link between the Church of Scientology and Youth for Human Rights.
“It is true that initially Scientology supported it’s creation because this organization represents the same moral values,” says Martine Rhein.
The links with the african NGO Village Suisse ONG, who in 2008 obtained a consultative status with ECOSOC, raise more questions. If this organization located in Lancy historically has no connection with Scientology, it seems to have been closing-in. She was the one who requested a room with the Palais des Nations to organize the 6th Summit of international human rights. Accredited as an NGO, it has the right to meet there. But the institution has chosen to veto it. What is relatively unique.
A known NGO
The attempted infiltration of Scientology was a little too showy. On its website, Village Suisse ONG offers a link to another site that offers training on Trade and Development at 570 francs a day, delivered by the representative of the Church of Scientology in Switzerland. Which figure in recent months among the team that runs the NGO. Reached by telephone, the founder of Village Suisse ONG, Adalbert Nouga, responds that he does not “enter into the controversy.”
He added to finish: “My organization has long worked with the Confederation. All information is on our website. We do not meddle in religion. ”
Martine Rhein and Christian Mirre ensure that the conference held today at the Intercontinental is not to promote Scientology as a religion, but to encourage the public to better understand the articles of the Universal Declaration of human rights.
The organization of this conference also passed almost unnoticed. No leaflet was distributed in the street. Electronic invitations were addressed to diplomats and members of other NGOs. It is them who have sounded the alarm, surprised to see this strange summit of human rights arise from nowhere.
Martine Rhein and Christian Mirre are surprised by the reactions. Last year, the summit could be held at UN headquarters in New York without it, they say, raising the slightest indignation. Wich is not entirely accurate. The only difference is that a state has interceded that other time in their favor to get them a meeting room.
The anti-cult will sit with NGOs
The doors of the Palais des Nations did not open for Scientologists. In contrast, anti-cult organizations have received their entry badge. This Information passed until then unnoticed. During the summer, the Economic and Social Council (ECOSOC) has granted special consultative status with the European Federation of Centers of Research and Information on Sectarianism (Fecris). An initiative that is due to the Swiss President of the Swiss Association for the Defense of families and individuals (Adsfi) Danièle Muller-Tulli.
The Fecris, an umbrella association of which she is Vice-President, has over 50 associations in 31 countries mainly in Europe but with correspondents in other continents. It fights against the proliferation of sectarian and totalitarian groups. It has a participatory status with the Council of Europe. For several years, secular associations denounced entryism and lobbying by the sects in the UN and European fora under the guise of NGOs. Procult and anti-cult may now oppose it. on the Fecris side, the only rule seems to be: no masks (as in: you better be honest and upfront about who you are and what you wanr)
The holding in Geneva of a summit of human rights sponsored by Scientologists deos not surprise Danièle Muller, who has long denounced the European offensive of Scientologists.
“What disgust a good number of people all the way up to the UN circles, is how the Church of Scientology uses the Universal Declaration of Human Rights for its own advertising,” says the president of the Adsfi.”
hope that helps.
oh and Star Magazine has John Travolta/Kelly Preston split AS THEIR COVER STORY!!!
Reply@mooki:
ReplyThank you Mooki – that article gives me much to think about. I had no idea the COS was speading its tentacles throughout the world to this degree – indeed scary! and YIKES, am going to look up the Star cover right now! Thanks again.
@LavondaFaylene:
Lavonda lovely, I would suggest that if you aren’t aware of the grand sum of everything that has been said on this site since time immemorial then it might be a good idea to keep your mouth shut on the subject of dead children. You only make yourself look as stupid, vile, stupid, stupid, vile and vile as you are. Did I mention stupid or vile? Didn’t I? My mistake, sorry: stupid and vile. Buh bye girlfriend.
Reply@Cheryl_Gross:
ReplyHi Cheryl – looks like Dr. Murrary allowed his human weaknesses to override any ethical considerations he should have given to poor MJ! If he is found guilty of manslaughter, then his medical career is over and he will be in jail. If he is found not guilty, he will still have to defend himself against a civil lawsuit for wrongful death brought by Jackson’s estate/kids – and if Murray loses that one, he will lose everything else in his life (money, possessions) including his medical career even if he retains his physical freedom if he is not in jail. Will be interesting to watch from a ghoulish point of view. Peace.
@LavondaFaylene:
ReplyDead children lost to war are not a fit topic even for this shitty site. I am waiting…….
No it is not. Stop going on about it. You STFU and go back to haterland. kate is no hate monger you stupid cow. Shoo cat, shoo nasty cat.
The newest star jumping onto the Jenny McCarthy “I’m not vaccinating my kid” bandwagon? None other than Blossom herself, Mayim Bialik. Jenny’s son actually is diagosed w/ Landau-Kleffner syndrome, which can easily be misdiagnosed as autism, but don’t tell that to her or she’ll flip out (that’s what you get from hanging out w/ quacks who cook the books)
Reply@Keane Cyber Queen Supreme:
ReplyWow, you have such a way with words. You must have finished high school. Lavonda pay no attention to the folks on this board that can’t respect someone havin’ a different opinion. Now I know you want to give down the country but this is to much pumpkin for a nickel!
@Ms Agatha:
ReplyYeah, I am sure he will get right one that. He is so ATTENTIVE to y’all.
@Keane Cyber Queen Supreme:
ReplyEat me.
@Bitsy Mae:
Well, goooolleeeeeee!! I see you went to High School because your grammar and spelling are the proof right? Or would you say something like: the proof is in the puddin’. Thanks for the insight Goober. See you in Mayberry braniac.
@ Lavonda – so you want to come over to play at Gull Dang – let’s see, how do I put this, okay, how about “When Hell Freezes Over”.
Reply@Bitsy Mae:
ReplyBunch of trailer trash ain’t they?
@Vittoria:
Replyhahaha! Whooo Hooooo – Nasty Cat LOL
@Tamara:
ReplyHere’s a clue, genius, you are on the internet. If you are going to be stupid, which you are, you’d better be tough.
@Tamara:
ReplyI went to Oxford.
@Tamara:
ReplyI am already there, genius. Who am I?
@LavondaFaylene:
ReplyGull dangit, who am I ????????
@LavondaFaylene:
ReplyI tell you you what, when you have finished researching how many of us here have buried a son/daughter, come back and talk to us. until then , you are on ignore.
@Kate:
ReplyBoo hoo call the waaaaambulance. If you or anyone else here has really buried a kid then you would STFU about how Cindy Sheehan chooses to grieve you callous bitch. Besides, Ian is too cheap to buy an ignore button.
@Tamara:
ReplyHusbands and wives 50 children lost their lives on the great Titanic.
Live long and prosper USS Vittoria!
Small minded people who can’t find honorable ways to entertain themselves often resort to going to other blog sites to initiate, or, re-ignite, flame wars….just to be entertained. You see, some over “there” consider it a good way to exersize what little gray matter they have left over after drinking themselves into obliviation all night long. Personally, i think the Females over “there” just need to get laid…shame no man will have them….i think it’s the pumpkin seeds stuck between their teeth..yeeeahaw
Reply@LavondaFaylene:
ReplyIgnore
@ladybert62:
ReplyIf he is found not guilty, I would have to question the jusdistial system now a days.
@LavondaFaylene:
I know for a fact that you aren’t dumb ass! If you think you belong to Gull Dang, prove it.
Go back to your litter box and stir the shit over there. There is only one poster I know of who comments with the venom that you do, we all know who you are and that is the last thing I have to say to you. Go groom yourself by washing your mouth out with soap.
ReplyGrauman’s Chinese…gelatin powder…ambition brazens out…tiny matching stained pillows…traces of poison
Twins, what twins? Where is Aldo, oops sorry, I meant, where is Waldo, excuse the typo.
Reply…I see, we have the certified members of the rat’s as* club back here again…. the types, who like to have one hand down south while typing …..the types who have an intellectual sanitary cloaca in their brains ….they have this unsatisfied urge to come here and relief themselves, also called Hysteria in Applied Psychology . This site is their center ob obsession, a disturbing preoccupation with an unreasonable idea : They desperately want to contribute something meaningful here….in the hope to gain recognition and immortality…..well, if it sounds like a rat, smells like a rat …. it is a rat … quelle surprise…. even if it wants to be a cat….haha
Reply@Ms Agatha:
ReplyAggie phone home
ms agatha!! Hello hun….missed you mucho, hope you are having a grand ole time.
Kate, i just have a thought; gelatin powder = Knox?
Reply@Pattyanne:
ReplyCould be, or it could be Heroin that is sold in Gelatin capsules, the Grauman’s Chinese has tiny dragons that run up it and those who chase dragons +heroin.
@LavondaFaylene:
ReplyRight. Oxford Mississippi maybe.
@Kate:
ReplyH & pregnancy go not very well together …. meth, H and pregnancy not either….. stuff can happen..got to be real careful not to mess up
WOW what is going on over there?
Is someone posting as IAN over there saying all that vile stuff, because I know IAN would never talk like that, cetainly not the racial and homophobic slurs. Isn’t it against the law to pretend to be another person? You would think the people who run that board would be on top of that kind of thing. yikes.
Imagine if someone read that and they really thought that was Ian Halperin? IAN if no one has alerted you, hello–
Reply@Kate:
Reply..the certified member of the rat a*s club made a mistake… a very stupid mistake …. didn’t Keane tell them they are stupid already ? …. they should have listened ….
@Pattyanne:
ReplyYou obviously took too many pain meds after your surgery. The only place a pumpkin seed is stuck, is between your legs.
IAN – DJ AM died of a drug overdose, he was found in his apartment tonight by a friend. You should know that someone at Female First on the IUC Hostility thread posted under YOUR full name Ian Halperin and said:
“I once had a night of passionate love with DJ AM” and then:
“DJ AM was a jew who had a great love of matzoh balls especially mine as I unfurled my high and tight circumcised manhood into his gorgeous mouth”
IAN- this is beyond vile – this is beyond words to me!! You need to contact Female First and have that removed immediately. I would take legal action if it were me and someone posted under my REAL name about a sweet young man who just DIED tonight!!!!
Reply@Kate:
Hi Kate!
Not to worry. It is nothing but a troll trying to stir the pot over there. No one thinks it is really Ian and I reported it. You got the same thing going on over here today?? How “strange” that it is amping up on both sides and on the same day, right? Methinks that someone familiar with both sites is not content with the current peace accord going on. I have managed to pick up a troll or two but am really hoping it is just one with a grudge. LOL. So far I am just a “clueless clown” and “pathological”. 8-O! I am aiming higher by the end of the week…Jeffery Dahmer territory Here I Come!!!
Don’t fall for it. Not like I think you would…
Hope all is going good here, trolls aside.
Reply@DebFrmHell:
ReplyThanks , Deb. Crazy isn’t it? Yeah all is fine, just wondering if there really are any twins . I suppose if we wonder loud enough they will drag some babies out, eh.
@Kate:
Aaaaaah, the twins…LOL. I got called something else on that thread. It had to do with a lack of gray matter! It has been an interesting week made all the better by Disgruntled Guest!
But the twins or lack thereof really get my conspiracy theories going into overdrive! I was going to start a day count like the tabs did with Suri until she was produced. How lame have I gotten??? hahahaha.
(((HUGS))) for you and your mom.
ReplyWho cares if he was gay, staright or even bisexsual we are not his lover we dont need to bother with his personal part of his life that was privite what was going on in his bedroom betwin 2 grown adult is his bissness if he wanted to make it public he would of … all i carre about is that he was not a pedophile he did care verry much about the children but that was that … i loved him for his music his majical dance moves and for all the good he did for this world RIP MJ i will forever love you and sorey for the gramer and the mistakes in the spelling i am not the best at that
ReplyDesperate Measures! That’s what comes to mind when someone posts as Ian. It’s like they’re saying,
The Book is Coming! The Book is Coming!
Well, I thank him/her/it for the reminder. That’s one book that should fly off the shelves!
ReplyI am up, watching Miachel on youtube, and I found a tribute video of him with his song One Day In Your Life. I have never heard this song before now. I started to cry again when I watched it. I hope the pain eases soon.
ReplyHappy Birthday, Michael. We love you.
Replyhttp://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1619824/20090828/story.jhtml
Spencer Pratt prods his “bff” Brody Jenner who got into a scuffle w/ Joe Francis. Heidi weights in Joe (who she says she’s “good friends with” oh really…)
Reply@LavondaFaylene:
Oh cool, where did you stay?
Reply@LavondaFaylene:
Oh Keane’s Cat you have truly surpassed yourself there. I can’t imagine how it would be to be so obstinately, pig-headedly vile and stupid. Maybe you could fill us in. If you wanted to do a brief check on how stupid you are you might want to look up an exchange between Karen Flatts and Kate back in Jan/Feb time, I think that’s all you will need to know to get the full picture of how gob-smackingly stupid and vile you are. BTW, did you hear about the case where the girl (was she a model?) is sueing a website for the IP address of someone who bullied/stalked her on the net for some time? I was talking about it with some of my lawyer friends the other day. They find the speed at which the area of internet law is developing to be fascinating and are astonished that so many people are so stupid to think the net is not governed by legal regulation in any way and they cannot be held accountable for their actions. So while you think it is key for those participating in bullying on the net to be “tough”, I would argue that the essential characteristic for people such as yourself is in fact “stupidity”. And just in case you weren’t sure (KC/9 Lives/Lavonda etc), that was not a “thinly veiled threat”. I always say exactly what I mean, without need for drapery.
Replythere was an incident @ the Judy Garland Museum in Grand Rapids, Minnesota (Garland’s hometown) where one of the original pairs of ruby slippers that she wore in The Wizard of Oz was stolen overnight. The alarms weren’t sounded off (why?!?!) and until now there’s been no suspect. Well, I think I’ve found them:
Replyhttp://cgi.ebay.com/Dorothys-Ruby-Slippers-Wizard-of-Oz-Judy-Garland_W0QQitemZ330354678786QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item4ceaac5c02&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14
Keane, she went to Oxford Mississippi
Reply@DebFrmHell:
ReplyDeb, thanks for your kindness and reasonableness
@Alif:
ReplyLOL Here Here , I agree Alif! that was funny!
@mooki:
Hey mooki, any news on why Brad (if Brad) jetted off to New Orleans in his private jet while his ho hum mum of his brood was slumming with the locals. (Could she not find a brush for Shiloh’s hair?, and please this little girl is not picking out Madd’s clothes, if she was she would not twirl around for ballet, hang on to a blankie, a baby doll, a duckie, and daddy so tightly) What is mommy trying to prove here. Why does Zahara get the pretty clothes? Must we make sure she is not a privileged blob?
I am sure that will be like a red flag to a bull, eh , TAM, LOL. still, just saying..
Reply@Kate:
ReplyKate – Hi and hope you’re well this fine day. I’ll tell you why he went to New Orleans. Because it is nearly September! Yes ma’am, the hurricanes might be coming. After careful deliberation, he decided he’d rather die in a hurricane than live one more second with her. It would also be less hazardous to one’s life to go through hurricane Katrina conditions rather than live with her. Either way, its a win.
@DebFrmHell:
We it is a toss up, no twins, or borrowed twins,or sick twins,or fat twins with cellulite (why I don’t know, Shi was not fat) or one baby from James and one from Brad, or no baby from Angie or Brad and both ordered up from a 2 different surrogates, and he was fully aware always. Has that covered all the “insiders” over at FF, not sure what to think..
Here is my conspiracy-
She was pregnant with the help of IVF or a fertility drug. She was carrying twins. She knew she was pregnant by Sept 2007 and by December 2007 she lost the babies, so I believe the medical term is aborted fetus, not by her design, but for health or drug reasons, babies were about 4-5 months gestation. Too many around them knew she was pregnant so she kept it going, faked the pregnancy. We saw the sliding belly every which way we could, and all different sizes at the wrong times of the month.
Brad never seemed to be into the pregnancy, never talked about it, was always on the move, they stayed hidden away from May to July to contain this mess. What happened at that point is the question? Did they adopt two seperate babies, one looks like Angelina all gracious as he said and the other like “Putin” , who says crap like that about their newborn son? Never to be seen again, until 7 months later, (some say borrowed again), looking adorable but completley detached from both parents. (I don’t know about other moms, but at that age my babies nearly ripped my hair out clinging on, and in the glare of flashes going off, defintely!) So, what now, sick, or fat, or waiting til they get older that no one notices how different they look?
There are at least 8 different pictures of Shiloh from the time she was born until she was the age the twins are right now, so what gives? Odd don’t you think? Did Michael Jackson dying rain on their parade? They could not debut the twins one year old show because they would seem a bit like famewhores if they did? Or do they just look so drastically different from Shiloh that they don’t want anyone making comparions? Or are they so shallow as parents they are ashamed of their babies if they are less than perfect?
They drag the others out for photo opps at every chance they get? Mad and Z and Shi all had many photos before the age of one year old…so sumtins up..
Or is it just that Brad is getting ready to leave and it would look bad to celebrate the birthday of his one year old twins ,and then announce to the world that Brange is over?
Reply@Vittoria:
ReplyLOL, good point, according to someone at FF he has a male lover stashed nearby in Texas, 22 years old, in a million dollar apartment. Guess that would mean the other insider (me/well) is wrong and he is not back with Jen. We need a insider guide.
@Kate:
me/well was a definite fake – planted to distract from the real story about the twins for sure. I can categorically say that many of the things she said were total rubbish. Can’t believe they’re still working that hackneyed old ploy!
ReplyThe Jolie/Pitts are truly a disfunctional family , in the loosest sense of the word family. It’s clear those children aren’t being given any form of stability in their young lives, a time when children form their lifetime character. What about schooling? I read somewhere that AJ has said her children are “home schooled”…in what? how to kill your pet and get the most pleasure from it? Or, How to love your brother, and tell the world about it? There are obviously some real serious problems in how they are caring for the children we do see, however, it is highly noticable that the so called twins are being kept from the media and public scrutiny , for what reason? After the huge public display of Brad and Angie At Home With The Kids on “W” magazine cover, yes, that famous cover story while still married to Jennifer….why is it we never see the entire family , as a whole, picnicing? Fraud…it’s all smoke and mirrors with the Jolie/Pitts….
ReplyHas there ever been a photo of Holly Goline, Jolie’s long time assistant, with her child who would be within weeks of age of the imaginary twins? I’d like to see if Holly’s child, male or female, resembles the child in the earliest photos of the twins with Brad and Angie and the kids. In that very early one, there is a shot of Viv who had a nose resembling JLM’s pointy tipped nose….hummmm Holly? Where’s your baby gurl?
ReplyOkay, so i’m tenacious…lol. I just sent an eMail to Tec C. asking why no photos of the Jolie-Pitt twins, and if they do indeed exist. Asked his take on it…now we wait and see if the mighty Ted C , who is on vaca, or his staffers will reply….i’m just a nobody, so perhaps they may not….
Reply@Keane Cyber Queen Supreme:
ReplyShe is over at Female First holding court and has been for months, telling the same story, and including her experience with Ian and how he investigated her and thought she broke up Brad and Angelina, she thought Brad would come back to her and was brokenhearted that he went back to Jen. I can’t decide if she is a delusional fan or what. She is furious with Ian for talking to those around her lolher boss, her family. I had to laugh at that. I hope she is in his book.
@Keane Cyber Queen Supreme:
ReplyThere is no doubt everybody knows you say exactly what you mean, without need for drapery. You informed the world wide web you get a brazilian wax.
Once upon a time there was a cat of nobility … her name was vonzudela dumbfeline … she went to the flea circus and stole the whole show ….. now she got a taillight on her tail
…. nobody got deleted as much as her within the last 24 hrs…. lol and big hahaha…..
ReplyDear Mr Tarantino :
What would be HW without you ? …. No Pulp … No Fiction…..Before Travolta’s lightning-strikes Pulp Fiction gambit, A-list actors for the most part wouldn’t be caught dead in a low-budget film that debuted at Sundance…. but thanks to you, all this has changed …. now Pulp and Fiction go WAY beyond YOUR wildest dreams, Mr. Tarantino….. I know of people in HW who try everything possible to live up to your Pulp and Fiction… by making their own pulp fiction real life show ….. ahhhh… Mr. Tarantino… if you remember the Brick ?
Reply… and thanks to Ian…. we will know all about the pulp fiction flea circus ……
ReplyQuentin … you are my favorite guy …. too bad he hooked up with wrong actor BP…. so sorry Quentin, hate bad acting … won’t be able to watch your movie… and I have never missed ONE !
Reply…..THIS is my all time favorite writer …of all times….. lol…. Randy Aaron ..pleazze get some a*zz or get yourself a Glycerin Suppository…. does wonders… promise lol
”
Angelina Jolia and Brad Pitt together are the closest thing to Jesus Christ one can ever get. I’m sure Jesus Christ is even envious of them. So why do rumors of their demise keep on going? One word: jealousy ”
http://www.examiner.com/x-15033-Memphis-Celebrity-Headlines-Examiner~y2009m8d29-Saint-Angelina-Jolie-and-Brad-Pitt-are-not-breaking-up
Replyhahahah…. this is the icing …. probably won’t be able to go to sleep tonight because of in-stop-able laughing attacks….”
Reply” It’s unlikely that Brad Pitt and Angelina Jolie will ever break up. First of all, their not officially married. This is a good thing, because it causes less stress on the couple ” …… I am so glad, that this people had the foresight to make 6 kids … but NOT to get married… that’s the way to go !!… the more kids you make… the less you should be interested in marriage….. hahaha
Thanks, Kate!
Spent most of the last three days watching news reports about the Kennedys.
Here in America, there is a great divide between the democrats and the republicans. I’m an independent but after the impeachment of Clinton, I felt like I’d probably never vote Republican, again.
But then, I’ve heard the advice “Never say never!”
Just watched the burial, as darkness, with much lightning covered the sky.
ReplyBeing an old-movie buff, I pictured Teddy crossing over, and there’s his mum (that’s the way some Kennedy’s pronounce it) and pop, Joe Jr., Kathleen, John, Robert, Rosemary, Eunice, Pat, and the rest greeting the old warrior!
He was an Irish Catholic, who spent the latter part of his life making amends for his youthful mistakes.
@Ms Agatha:
“I’m sure Jesus Christ is even envious of them!”
That’s how screwed up the loonies are!
ENVY is one of the seven deadly sins. So this poster is saying that Jesus, the Christ, who couldn’t commit a sin, would practice it because of Brangie!
Jesus the Christ, and ENVY are like Oil and Water. They don’t mix!
Wonder if a brangeloonie would be able to do a little research about all this?
BTW, I heard on a cable news program that there was a protestant church pastor who declared that he was praying that our president would die and he further prayed that he, Obama, would burn in hell!
I am terrified for that preacher!
Reply@Alif:
ReplyNo kidding, Alif! You would think Mr. Preacher Man would know better than that, aye? He should KNOW he is supposed to pray FOR the leader … that the leader be lead by God Himself! Good grief. What kind of example is that!?? Ya know … it’s rather odd being on these sites when you’re a Christian! Technically, I suppose we are not supposed to be here. And yet speaking for myself, I am completely AMAZED by the completely NUT BALL things these two (Brangie) do. They scare me because they are athiests/agnostics and don’t like being told to live by the rules. Yet they are so quick to spout off to people how they should be living their lives. They CLAIM to be tolerant … and yet I don’t believe they are. Not of Christians. It really bothers me. They really bother me. Because people LISTEN to them and for some darn reason BELIEVE them. UGHHHHHH.
@Togi:
I think you gave the reason why we’re here. However, any reader would KNOW we are not religious preachers. For that, we’d recommend they give a call to a church pastor or leader who is truly a traditionalist.
So the following is for you to check out. Others may not be interested due to content.
I see all kinds of christians workers in their church.
Many are sure the last days are here or coming soon.
In my research of prophecies (many have unaccountably been taken off the shelves) I find that holy people (who don’t know about one another) are agreeing with the above. However, they unanimously state that it’s up to the people of our planet, if we want to return to God and repent, we’ll be spared.
And one that is intriguing: A report that “All the demons in hell are now out in the world”. Apparently they are allowed to be free up to a certain time. And they’re constantly trying to win more souls, and persecuting christians. They’ll be returned to hell. Before that, there’ll be an intense three days of tribulation on our planet. During that 3-day period, everyone outside including any true christian will be slain. They said those who are inside must not look out their windows (God’s wrath is holy; as in the story of Lot’s wife, who looked back despite a warning and turned into a pillar of salt)
They continued: Anyone inside must not even answer the phone. They must not answer any knock on their door. For light, they must have candles made from pure beeswax. They must pray for God’s mercy.
God will stop the tribulaltion after 3 days because even the just will not be able to take any more of the intense cleansing of the earth and the demonic activity going on.
After it’s over, they further stated, there’d be no more technology. And many who don’t believe in God will be spared. Apparently, the reason is that God will spare some of to show that He is real.
The earth will become pastoral, again. And there will be a long time of peace.
But I can’t find those prophecies anymore. Will ask around.
But one can see the changes that have been transpiring. Say, read a news paper from five years ago; another from ten years ago; another a decade further back, and so on. Evil changes came in doses that people could absorb. If all the evil changes came at once, they would be rejected because people would be too horrified and would reject them. (It’s similar to The Hitlerian Lie!)
I find it fascinating and scary. I’d prefer to believe it won’t happen. Who wants to hear bad news, anyway?
ReplyDenial, or common sense?
@Alif:
Togi, I forgot the important information contained in the following:
The intense tribulation was called, “The Three Days of Darkness”. That is when the sky will show no light for three days.
Speculation that the cause of the three days of darkness may come in one of several ways.
METEORS WILL HIT EARTH. Dust will blacken the sky.
NUCLEAR WAR.
MULTIPLE VOLCANO ERUPTIONS.
After the three days, the sky will be clear. The dust will act as a fertilizer and the earth will bloom.
Interestingly, I read similar prophecies attributed to certain Native American tribes. I believe the Hopis (Arizona) are considered the most spiritual of all the tribes.
Well, enough of this. I just thought it interesting. And it’s now just Sunday, here; appropriately enough.
ReplyGood night.
I found that very interesting Alif, and i am a Christian, and a believer. It is true that the evil has been coming to our world in small doses, so that people would accept a small change over time rather than a huge one at one time. Moral values are gone, people kill for fun, have no respect for life, and i’ve never heard so many four letter words spoken fluently out of the mouths of pre-teen children in my life! Hold on to your faith, keep your love of Jesus in your heart, and remain true to Him, for i believe the time is near.@Alif:
Replyhttp://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1210023/Tom-Katie-brave-wind-jogging-Mebourne.html
Tom and Katie go out for a jog for the photogs (yes, they’ve split but the press will be receiving more Scilon spin until the big announcement comes)
Reply@curiouscatz:
And I heartily recommend them to you and all your kin my friend. Could improve your lot considerably! Just watch out for the squishy bits – ouch! Good to see you’re still a faithful reader though as ever! To follow: tips on personal hygiene and deportment (you will also benefit considerably from these). Ha ha ha.
Reply@Kate:
Yeah, she was so outraged about the invasion of her privacy she went blabbing about it for months and months on any gossip blog that would have her on the worldwide web, and the ones she knew AJ was reading and commenting on to boot!!! If I were being harrassed/stalked by one of the most famous people in the world and was about to take legal action against them that’s exactly how I would go about “healing” myself!!!! SO funny. What was she doing, trying to get harrassed? It’s a bit like me going to chat with the cyber bullies/stalkers on FF – she is obviously a major masochist! And of course the reason for Angie’s supposed harrassment of her (she called her out for being rude to her 3 y/o niece, when they were where exactly?) is just SO believable. (I suspect the idiot Holly Holine!). But I guess we are talking FF here, we aren’t exactly talking about people of significant intellect on the whole! And yes I agree Ange and Brad have been replaced by clones too – or robots maybe…. or zombie robot clones…. or aliens from outer space zombie clones with life-like, bendable, posable parts…. or maybe Angie is a Terminator, that guy on Ian’s livechat did say that was her nickname in HW…does that make Brad Linda whats-her-name? Then that would make Maddox the Edward Furlong role? I am definitely on to something here…. developing….!
Reply@curiouscatz:
Good attempt at saying something witty though, it’s about the closest you’ve ever come to something vaguely humorous/clever! Were you all PM-ing each other on FF for the past 24 hours to come up with it. Congrats CC, you can give yourself a little chufty badge or put it on your CV under “Achievements” – should fill up that blank space nicely! BTW ever get a response from that actress whose identity I stole? Classic!
Reply@Alif:
Reply….. this is probably the worst ever written by anybody about anybody….. what does this guy Randy Aaron want to achieve other than utter disgust ?…… well, achieved, bravo Randy, cretin !
@Pattyanne:
Yes, and beings it’s Sunday, I will add this:
Warning! People, the following is about faith.
The parable about the sheep and the ravenous wolf. How the wolf must fool the sheep in order to get close enough to devour the sheep.
So the devil wears sheeps’ clothing.
Thus, we witness “righteous” people doing and saying un-christian things!
And here we admit that we have a fine line to tread; no?
But, back to Brangie, and the sainthood thing the loonies bestow on Angelina.
ReplyThere are sins of commission and sins of omission.
Omission? An example is BP not saying or doing anything in JA”s defense while the utter hatred and unrelenting attacks of the victim went/goes on.
Commission? We see even the media and blog owners either subtly or blatantly attacking JA with drippingly snarky comments that are sure to stir up hatred toward JA. And the core of all this? AJ.
jmo.
@Kate:
I like your theory a lot!
When Jack Black said that Jolie was having twins, it seemed to catch them by surprise. (I always kind of thought that Black was making a joke) But the whole fan base went wild at the thought of two babies. Like some kind of weird rapture. So they reluntantly said yes, twins. Jolie is such an egowhore she would have been crowing from the treetops about having two kids at one time to enhance her superwoman/mother image early on if she really knew there were two, imo. Remember Jolie’s simple quote “Of course there are two.” Then, if she really were pregnant and I think she was, where the heck is she going supposed to get a second child from? Russia? Ukraine? Got to be a blonde, blue eyed baby like Shiloh, right? I never gave two seconds on the Holly Goline theory. It is just too obvious for me or too convenient. Methinks they bought elsewhere!
I think it is very curious that with all the interviews and whatnots that have gone on for IB that the press has NOT asked questions about when they are going to show off the twins. It is like an unwritten agreement with the media. Not even when SALT was filming for months, did anyone question why a new mother would be staying at the Waldorf Towers separated away from the family by a distance of just 50 miles. With Suri, the press was champing at the bit to see her, even going so far as to keep a daily clock on when she would show up. With the twins, nothing. It seems that they want us all to forget they even had them…
The press started the health rumors early in the year so they showed them off in Japan to prove they had healthy kids. They were what, 6-7 months old at the time? Vivi, IMO, looked very much like a product of Jolie. Knox…ummm… not so much. As the babies have gotten older now, what if one of the three bios looks like neither the parents nor the siblings? What if it was so noticeable that people would start asking questions? What if it was so different as to expose the lie that she even had twins? They made a LOT of $$$ that went to their “charity foundation” and, not to even mention the GINORMOUS good will from the fans, all based on the whole TWIN thing. Their image would take a beating and the foundation could be discredited, especially since they don’t shell out that much cash from it.
What ever happened late last year caused Brad Pitt to mentally check out of the relationship. I think he doesn’t say anything about the babies because he doesn’t want to be connected in the press to them. Like when he said they would get married when everyone could get married. He made a statement once to the effect that since he said that he was “stuck” with it. Kind of an “ask me no questions I will tell you no lies” thing.
There is so much indifference in his attitude toward Jolie in the last year. If something tragic would have happened to one or both babies, I would think it would have drawn them closer together. A family united in despair or grief. I think he got sucked up into this mess by Jolie and is now distanced by fear that the whole shebang could come crashing down on them. He is all about his reputation as a family man, after all.
He has really changed as far as appearances go, actually they both have aged so much in the last year or two, that I think the Big Lie is wearing on them both.
Sorry about typing a bible. The twins really get me going…I tend to ramble about them.
Reply@DebFrmHell:
ReplyTo Add:
I am going to CCP this over to FF so that I don’t have to retype it. LOL. Lazy.
evening all. mr pee brain is in spain no less to give his valueable advice on architecture with his german pals. man is this moron into himself that he now thinks he is the best one to give advice on building homes, he must not forget that spain does not give goverment taxes for ego projects. why is he not in the land of his birth helping NO get those ever green expensive homes build for the poor. 15 or 20 homes build out of 150 in how many years, even in South Africa we can put up serviceable homes in 1/2 the time it has taken this moron to build 15 or less.
Replybut let us outside the usa not forget that him and his other 1/4 ( BECAUSE BETWEEN THE 2 OF THEM THEY HAVE THE VALUE OF 1 PERSON) would rather adopt, live and birth anywhere but in the great usa where all his loons pay top dollar to help him afford his rich taste in furnisher and art and buy 6 homes and a castle, no france is better and has more to offer than the good old usa. as for anybody who believes all this ” we are the best in the world” crap WAKE UP AND SMELL THE ROSES. JMO
@Keane Cyber Queen Supreme:
You got the wrong person, genius. But thanks for the compliment, idiot I just wanted to see who all would crawl out of the dung, you tards are so predictable. I didn’t see you two faced nutbags making fun of Ian’s friend w cancer. So let me get this straight, ok to make fun of a mother with a dead kid but not ok to make fun of someone w cancer. What, exactly is the difference? No one on the board has faced cancer? Huh? I am waiting.
And all the rest of you good KKKKristians, LMAO, you make Baby Jeebus cry with your vicious two faced gossip. I doubt the baby Jeebus would be happy to see his little humans gossiping about bestiality, rape, etc. but that didn’t stop you. So don’t pull the “I’m a good Christian crap” it makes you both liars and hypocrites, something baby Jeebus may not know, but is here for the whole world to see. This means you, Patty Anne.
Reply@Pattyanne:
ReplyYou are an abomination to the Christian faith.
I will say a rosary for you toinght@LavondaFaylene:
Reply@DebFrmHell:
ReplyIt would not surprise me one bit if she has not held the “adopted” twins back , because he check out as you said, all the while knowing they are done. The day they split, she will plant their innocent little diapered behinds on her lap on the front of some magazine with the rest of ther brood for all the Mother Earth PR she can muster. That is the only logical explanation. I bet that will be the next time we see them.
That would be a brilliant P.R. move on Jolie’s part should she do that when the split is made official. With all the questions regarding the twins, what better way to ensure she gets more publicity than Brad, and ensures positive publicity at that, than by producing the secluded twins….what a lousey mother
Reply@Pattyanne:
You’re not too bright, are you?
I don’t need your prayers, dear, you do.
ReplyDear, we ALL need prayers, it’s nothing to dismiss. None of us is perfect, but all we can do it follow the commandments and live our lives in a Christlike manner to the best of our human condition, what ever each individuals may be. I thank you for offering prayers for me, and i will reciprocate in kind. So much hate can destroy a person and their eternal soul. Don’t be ashamed to admit you love our Lord, or to make a special effort to show it in how you live your life. Be proud to stand up and say you are a Christian, and you love our Lord….i certainly am
@LavondaFaylene:
Reply@Pattyanne:
ReplyHumans have always been susceptible to various forms of mind control to justify their own shortcomings. I do not believe in Space Gods. But I respect those who do. But not those who by their words profess one thing and by there deeds, documented here, do another. Fraudulent. Shameful. Harsh. Own it.
@Pattyanne:
ReplyPattyanne bless your gilded little heart! How kind of you to pray for sister Lavonda……
Keep your tongue from evil and your lips from speaking lies.
Psalm 34:13
Only crime and the criminal, it is true, confront us with the perplexity of radical evil; but only the hypocrite is really rotten to the core.
Hannah Arendt
@Kate:
Here I am…CCPing myself. It is cheaper than getting a transcribist! LOL! These are actually two separate posts. I will put a line between them so make it easier to read. If you marry our two theories….
by DebFrmHell on Mon Aug 31, 2009 10:35 pm
MissMantis wrote:
Oh Deb, another thing…Do you think the thing that made him “check out” of the relationship has anything to do with something that also led Cindy to be let go as publicist early last year? I bet this has already been suggested on the Sacrificed thread ( which i’ve only just started reading and haven’t got all the way through yet). Does this get hinted at? Something that as few people as possible needed to know about, hence the letting go of certain people. But then the Big Lie was too much to swallow…
just my crazy old silly thoughts, naturally.
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I don’t know that Cindy didn’t just get the heck away from that situation (RUN, CINDY, RUN!) and let Pitt say she was terminated so that he could “save face” in the industry. Who knows what she knows but I bet she knows more about the “twins” than she wishes she knew. (say that 3 times fast! LOL)
Holly knows the truth and the fact that ET never retracted their story about the early delivery speaks volumes. I don’t believe for a second there was a fake Holly sending out emails. That story was replied to by email and received a confirmation regarding the birth. Two girls? What if the deal they had to adopt a female child fell thru at the last minute and all they could get was a boy? The fixer…sorry, it was a fake email from a fake Holly and it bought them more time to get the paperwork done on the boy. Jolie got Pax in a few days. She has proven that it is something she can do.
I think it odd that for Shiloh’s birth they in effect closed down an entire country to keep a media black out for the birth of a child. I also think that Shiloh is a little older than her announced birthdate. I believe the date was held back to insure the world that Jolie and Pitt were NOT doing the deed before he was separated. Jolie had made those ridiculous statements about how she would never fool around with a married man. Hence Shiloh needed to stay in the incubator for a few weeks more! (snort)
Then for the next births she was ensconced in a hospital for weeks in advance. Why do they need to cover their tracks so much if everything is on the up and up??? She was all over the place in Cannes with her big belly and suddenly all these complications requiring that she stay out of sight for 6 weeks? If they were able to close a country, what the heck kind of effort would it take for a single hospital floor? And she had her OB guy from Hollywood flown in to both locations rather than to use an OB in France or Namibia. Cheaper to pay him by the week to insure that her patient/doctor priviledge stays intact. Lessen the risk of more people knowing?
Never has childbirth been so dramatic as it is with her….
IMO! IMO! IMO! LOL!
And to add, Combodia has changed it method of adoption after the Jolie/Maddox affair. They have not tried to adopt anymore children since so maybe she played her trump card for the boy. Maybe it isn’t that they don’t want to, either together or separate…no more countries will allow it.
IMO! IMO! IMO! LOL! x 2
ReplyI was lurking on dlisted and found this interesting, hope you do too!
This celebrity couple hauls the child/ren everywhere with them while they travel. While it may sound glamorous for them to travel from country to country, the truth is that they lack a consistent educational program. It has left them well behind their age level academically, as well as socially awkward with their peer group. In a recent embarrassing incident, one of the kids was put in a play group with kids their own age for a few minutes, and spent their time alternating between crying and bullying. (Blind Gossip)
apparently this was Zahara in LA. I think it was during the ballet/dance classes Shiloh and Zahara were enrolled in which they did not continue. Hope everyone is having a great day. Please Ian more on the Jolie Pitt split!! take care x x
ps over at ff there is noise that People will be announcing the split. mmm fingers crossed lol x x
Reply@ladybert62:
ReplyHi Ladybert, have not heard from you in a while. How are you doing???
@Pattyanne:
Thanks for the testimony.
Yes, we are imperfect! And some of us are addicted to various things. Our curiosity makes us lurk or speak out at these sites. Gossip has a lure for weak christians such as I.
Thank heavens we are able to confess and confide in our spiritual mentors. I know mine tries to gently wean me away from celebrities only because my time could be better spent. But we keep the lines of communication open and we both know it will take time, and there are good reasons to put my two cents out there.
Several posters have the very same sound to them. I have noticed this for a while.
The latest evidence of “a missing sensitivity chip” I’ve read is BP making sure he’s quoted as saying
that he and Angelina Jolie will get married when George Clooney and his boyfriend can marry.
One can take this statement several ways.
1- Somebody sounds a little jealous!
2- Hey, didn’t he diss George Clooney not that long ago?
3- Why the obsession with GC’’s love life?
Is he trying to tell us that the rumors about him and GC are not true? His way of proving that he’s not into guys?
If so, why blindside GC with those comments? Why not just say he and GC have never been intimate and that AJ doesn’t feel threatened by GC?
Or does he feel safe picking on his friend because GC isn’t the type to retaliate?
It was about a year ago, a tab printed a pic of a smitten BP looking adoringly at GC. Like a girl would look at a guy. jmo!
George Clooney has handled the Brad attacks/comments with silence, so far.
ReplyThanks, there are more like people out here in the real world than some would admit i think…as to BP and GC, i’ve often wondered if they haven’t had a tete’ a tate’ or three themselves, we all know by now that Brad has a history of “falling in love” with his sexual partners…Either way, Jolie is on a rant to destroy Brad’s credibility in HW and with the fans it seems, she has to be readying the stage for her grand exit from The Brand with HER reputation in tact for those without a working brain to remember all she’s admitted to so proudly…I hope what ever happens, somewhere, someone will see to it the kids are well cared for emptionally, physically, and socially. Brings to mind the phrase, “Poor Little Rich Kid”….certainly fits in this case@Alif:
Reply@Cheryl Gross:
ReplyHI Cheryl – I am here – just reading – dont have too much to say lately so have not been saying too much! Hope you are doing better this week – I see there is going to be another MJ tribute coming up sometime soon. Do you think it will be broadcast on TV?
@Alif:
ReplyHi Alif – except I read read that gorgous George smashed his hand recently – maybe he was trying to get it into hapless’ face and missed? ha ha
@Pattyanne:
Wow, it calls itself a Christian too, I’ve heard it all now – this one’s a keeper!
Reply@LavondaFaylene:
“Their” not “there” twerp! Where was it you stayed in Oxford again? I’d love to hear all about your little tourist trip!
ReplyI’m all out of butterfly pins g/f, or i’d keep “it” for sure….lol@Keane Cyber Queen Supreme:
ReplyHey, there….easy with the swipes at Ole Miss. ;o) What the hell is going on over here, anyway??? This topic has become a juvenile bitch fight. Good Lord, Grow UP!! (This is not meant directly for you Vittoria) You people are getting nasty!!! @Vittoria:
Replyhttp://www.usmagazine.com/news/spencer-pratt-legally-changing-his-name-to-king-spencer-pratt-2009186
Spencer Pratt thinking about legally changing his name to “King Spencer Pratt”. Somebody please send this guy to rehab
ReplyOr get him a shrink! He and Heidi must be doing all this insane publicity just to stay in front of the public….hahaha, king, sure, uh huh@mooki:
Reply@Pattyanne:
he says he’s Heidi’s “manager” but who manages these two? he needs to get taken out in a back alley and shot
Reply@ladybert62:
ReplyLOL That’s pretty funny LadyB.
I recently read that Heidi is Spencer’s beard, that the marriage is a business contract, but with the loonieness these two exhibit, who knows….i see NO talent there at all…@mooki:
Reply@ladybert62:
There was an article in the L.A.Times just recently about George. Neglected to peruse it. But his new movie is with a hot young director who has scored three hits in three outings.
On Friday, The L.A. Times ran an article headlined, Do Tarantino’s “Basterds” jibe with Jewish beliefs?
“Rabbis say one can look at the film in different ways, but the violence may be hard to justify and defend.”
-RELIGION NEWS SERVICE.
“Talk about an eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth.
In Quentin Tarantino’s blood-soaked new film, “Inglorious Basterds,” a band of Jewish soldiers bash collect Nazi soldiers’ scalps in a bid to avenge their people and stop the Holocaust.
Tarantino’s World War II fantasy and its orgy of violence are little more than cartoonish savagery and perhaps a cathartic experience for some Jewish viewers. It’s a sort of reverse form of Schadenfreude: Jews giving Nazis the ultimate taste of their own medicine.”
And there is good pov’s regarding Jews as no longer being victims and in fact are being seen as aggressors and oppressors.
Others say that it’s never right to sink to the level of the nazis.
Still, some say it may be fun for some jewish moviegoers to see the nazis get some of what they dished out.
And the odd, imo pov that “the anti-Semites weren’t swayed by films such as “Swindler’s List” and “The Diary of Anne Frank”.
How would they know? Is an anti-Semite always going to announce to the world that he/she has changed her life because of holocaust films? Yet, the power of movies must have changed hardcore bigots in the past.
Anyway, I feel that the power of the holocaust is sacred. jmo!
Reply@Alif:
Ha! Ha! Ha!
The mother of all typos. I did it!
ReplyI typed “Swindler’s List” instead of “Schindler’s List”
@Cheryl_Gross:
ReplyI definitely agree with you! they just want some publicity or exposure…
Something that I do not understand.
ReplyIan said that MJ was broke.
But on radaroline.com
Executors John Branca and John McClain also state they were successful in recovering over $5.5 million dollars in cash from a former unamed business advisor.
How come ?? I do not understand?
@Alif:George doesn’t respond because a)he has class and b)he doesn’t kiss and tell.
Reply@pia:
ReplyI cannot believe that someone could be so evil to do that to a human being. Michael was innocent, and first Evan Chandler, then Janet Arvizio both targeted him. And almost ruined his career because of it. I wish Michael could be alive to see him vindicated. I think both Evan and Janet should spend time in prison for their crime, and a public apology given to Michael Jackson, even if it is to the family.
@ladybert62:
ReplyI hope so, I would like to see it, but CNN said it was only for family and close friends, but the TV Guide Channel said that there will be Live Coverage of the funeral.
I know it has been going on 3 months since Michael has been gone, but it is still unreal. He was such a huge star. When will it finally sink in? I still have a hard time believing it. I listen to his music/watch his videos and I almost forget he died, until I see it on TV, then I become sad again. What can I do to get past this?
ReplyThere are several steps of grieving Cheryl, and unfortunately we all must work our way through each of them before we can finally accept our loss and go on. Be patient with yourself, and keep your fond memories of MJ close to you. You will be alright, it will just take time to adjust and accept
@Cheryl Gross:
ReplyAutopsy results on DJ AM are out, and it’s so sad. I know he’d had medication prescribed for the effects of the deadly plane crash he was in a year ago, and it’s looking as if that medication put him back into abusing drugs once again, after beating it for nearly nine years. He had seven pills, six in his stomach, and one OxyContin in his mouth at the time of the autopsy. So sad. RIP DJ AM
Reply@Pattyanne:
ReplyThanks hon, my friend says I am obsessed, watching and listening to his music/videos all day. I find his music a comfort. I don’t think I am obsessed.
As long as watching his videos and listening to MJ’s music doesn’t interfer with your daily activities Cheryl, i say go for it, mourn your loss, and the passing of time will heal you. @Cheryl Gross:
Reply@Pattyanne:
ReplyThank you, hon. You are a good person. I am glad I came onto this site. God bless you.
Hey i got dat MJ book its really good
Reply@Chloe:
ReplyHi Chloe, it is a great book. I think Ian did a great job on it.
@mia:
ReplyI totally agree with you. I am so tired of everyone jumping on the HYPE of Michael Jackson’s life and death. If these “So-Called” lovers of MJ were soulmates, and would never betray him, then why are they dishing out dirt after his demise, least of all, to a half-wit writer, with whom I found an exceptional amount of typo’s and misspelled words in his attempt at writing a book. I am so disappointed in greedy-ass people, who are working with the gov’t. to discredit any black person who has an overwhelming amount of money, power, and influence in the world. This is very disheartening to know that before someone, including Halperin reads the facts, they are jumping on the bandwagon. And yes, I’ve been a fan of the whole Jackson family since the 70’s, but Im no fool as to the truth. And as a matter of fact, I do own a copy of both court transcripts, and in both cases, the children were coerced by their parents, and the description Jordie gave of MJ’s genitalia was incorrect! This is so absurd. MJ’s insurance paid the family off from the monies he earned from the Dangerous Tour, and that’s that. Im sick of the lies. All of this foolishness that is being created is worse than the sad life that he lived. I wish that these money-hungry whores would let the man rest in peace…and another thing, if he wasn’t f*cking you, who’s business is it of anyone’s who he was f*cking in the first place?! I don’t care!!! The man left a legacy of music, with more than 50 albums accredited to his name…Now top that HATERZ!!!! RIP KING OF POP!!!!
@Kate:
ReplyIf you think that Ian’s book is amazing…read J. Randy Taraborrelli’s account of MJ’s entire life. From the parents humble beginnings, to the rise of the Motown generation, to the early demise of Jackson’s life. And then you will see that Ian’s book doesnt hold a candle to that one. Oh, and by the way, Taraborrelli’s book is over 700 pages. So its the entire story. And yes Ive read Ian’s book as well. And any real MJ Fans (from the 70’s and beyond) would know the difference between trashing someone & respecting someone. Love and Peace to all. RIP MJ
@LavondaFaylene:
ReplyI totally agreee. Kennedy did a lot more good than bad. So let’s just move ahead people. Why must we always focus on the negative? Im sure he made his atonement with his God for his sins. So why cant we forgive him and all the other fallen people? “Let he who has not sinned cast the first stone” like the good book says.
@lady:
ReplyI seen that at Wal-Mart the other day. I have to get that one too.
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ReplyHas anyone heard how the investigation on Conrad Murray was coming?? I am just wondering.
ReplyI cannot wait until This Is It comes to theatres. I think it is going to be great.
ReplyIan, thank you for proving that MJ did not molest any children. I wish people would focus more on this matter. It is the most important thing to be cleard. I don’t know why MJ did’t tell us about his conditions such as lupus or knee pain… If you know, please write about it.
ReplyI think the people who did this to Michael owes a huge apology, even if it is to his family.
ReplyDid you watch the Dateline show on NBC? Is the rabbi a real rabbi? Please write an article about him. I think he hurt people who don’t have to be hurt… I didn’t want to know what he thinks about Madonna or Hitler. I think he could have written much better books if he spent so much time with him.
ReplyI read your book.
I found it interesting, many people still sees Michael as a pedophile and maybe they stop thinking that he was able of something so terrible. You are the only one biographer who clared him completely.
Honestly, I think his sexuality is irrelevant, it does not interfere in his ability and talent for music.
You´re right when you say that “fans” will take this latest news as a catastrophic revelation that somehow tarnishes the legacy and reputation of their idol.”
The true fan accepts him like he was. The true fan doesn´t require conditions for love Michael Jackson.
Best regards
Maureen
ReplyNow the trailer to This Is It is out, it should be apparent to everyone that Ian Haperin is a liar, spinning gold on Michael’s death by throwing a book together in a hurry to profit from the events of June 25.
Halperin claims Michael couldnt sing, could barely breathe, etc. due to a lung disease. Well, anyone who’s seen the trailer will know that this is absolute bullshit – he sings just fine the last days before his death. He dances just fine, even though Halperin claims in his book that he couldnt…etc…etc….
How very odd that anyone at all believes the bullshit Halperin is spewing… Just another leech.
Reply@lady:
Typos happen when you have to write a book in a week, in order to get the damn thing printed fast enough to sell it while the subject of MJ’s death is hot!
C’mon, it’s so obvious… Halperin’s book was totally written after MJs death, not started before. He did it in a week or two at the most, and it shows like hell.
ReplyDear Ian,
As you should know many people think that Michael Jackson faked his own death.
What is your opinion about this possibly being true?
ReplyIan, i sincerely hope that you are a geniue person to believe Michael is INNOCENT and not just patronising Michael fans around the world. I bought your book and I am from Asia Singapore. It was a relief to note that you realised that all those speculation on Michael plus the court trial were indeed out for Michael money, all of them were false allegation and untruthful. Michael Jackson is/was a good human being. Hopefully for those who do not believe Michael innocence, judge and demoralise Michael ever changing appearance and behaviour, should rest these unhealthy thoughts and lead a fresher life ahead. May GOD forgive those who hurt Michael, pardon their sins. Peace and Love to All Michael Fans.
ReplyOh dear, Ian you have to be careful not to go the wrong way in penning on Michael Jackson, otherwise you will be attacked brutally .. nevertheless, your final words on your investigation on Michael proves that Michael was without doubt NOT QUILTY, notably innocent, gave a standing ovation in your effort.
We have created a blog titled : simple.sosblog.com, encouraging the local people especially Michael Jackson fans to support THIS IS IT movie and song.
Long Live Michael Jackson
ReplyHi Ian, I read an interview you made at a french magazine, you said AEG is the responsable for Michael´s lack of health and the autopsy results are false…I also read you are preparing a movie that will be ready by June.
You said also you didn´t believe Jason Pfeiffer because he hadn´t any proofs…
Can you confirm it? Oh and I´m curious about the basket player…
ReplySome fans are never satisfied!
You know, It´s so unfair some people judge Ian´s book without even reading it. They always complain about an author who claims that Michael was a child molester, but when an author like Ian claims that Michael never molested any child and he was a good man, they complain about something else…
Replydesolee je vais vous ecrire en francais
Replybien aimee votre livre les dernieres annees de MJ je l ai lu 2 fois terrible situation ne comprend pas comment cela est arrive pas possible d etre detruit par la faute d autrui pas eu moyen de porte plainte par la suite lors de l innocence prouvee je ne sais si ces gens la peuvent dormir tranquille moi aussi j ai ete victime de personne qui voulait me detruire simplement par la jalousie pour une autre raison bien sur
quelle souffrance a t il du subir maintenant il est bien ou il est mais ns avons perdu un genie de la musique dommage que je n ai ps les moyens de venir a L.A. pour me recueillir ur sa tombe j habite trop loin de vous
merci de me lire et encore merci pour votre livre choc une fan de M.J. il faudra du courage pour l avenir de ses enfants quel lourd fardeau
a bientot NICOLE TRESFELS ILE MAURICE OCEAN INDIEN
If Michael was gay I dont think he would date a fat guy
Reply@KramerVs.Kramer:
Who is Webster and where could I find that futage?
Thanks
ReplyIf your book wasn’t a library copy that I’m reading now, I would sooo burn it; because I can’t stand all the garbage said about my gorgeous angel. Michael was very sweet and loving. So get over it. U r just so insensitive; at least, Ian, you listen to his music. That’s a plus. But please, no shit about Michael being gay. Because he’s not…
Reply@MJfanforlife:
How do you know he was not gay? Just because he said so? You´re so naive. Read carefully that quote from him:
So then when Michael showed his version, he said, ‘Are you gay?’ Michael said, ‘I don’t want to answer that question.’ Then he said, ‘But if you turn your camera off, I will answer your question.’ Then the guy said ok, turn the camera off. Then Michael said, ‘No. Absolutely not. I am not gay, but I have millions of gay fans and if they believe I’m gay, then let them believe I’m gay.’ He said, ‘I don’t care. I don’t want to offend anybody.’ You know?”
You can see the whole interview here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=78nZTqpYvgQ
So, if he wasn´t gay, why he didn´t say simply “no, I´m not gay”? Why have he had enough of talking, as if he were uncomfortable? “Turn the camera off?!” God, just do not see who does not want to see!
And yes I´m also a true Michael fan like you, but I´m not blind and I accept him like he was!
Peace
ReplyThree close Michael´s bodyguards said he had at least two girlfriends…unless they just wanted please Michael fans, I don´t know why they would lie…
…or Michael was really a bisexual and they just told Ian about his gay part…
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