IUC Exclusive: Where Do You Think Michael Should Rest?
Posted on July 11th, 2009 by HisHighness in IUC:Entertainment
My sources inside the Jackson camp say there is non 
stop feuding going on about the will, the estate, the children and the burial site. Michael’s mom wants Michael to rest in peace somewhere like Princess Di, where his resting place won’t become a public shrine. Joe Jackson wouldn’t mind putting Michael on permanent display at Neverland. Read this L.A. Times piece about possibilities of where MJ will rest. Let us know your thoughts.
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I still say old man Jackson would, as first choice, have him stuffed and transported to concerts where the siblings and kids would dance around him with his music videos playing in the bakground.
ReplyIt’s a tough choice! As usual, there’s always the undesirable element who disrespect the dead. Yet, the majority of mourners are not that kind. And they do help add to the city’s coffers.
Limited accessability would be my compromise.
ReplyI heard that old man Joe wants to present us with the Jackson 3 in a few years …… he is oggling the 3 kids for future income and stardom ….. he believes the youngest has ‘ the moves ‘ and the girl ‘ wants it ‘ … this thing is never going to end if old man Joe gets his will…… and than declare Neverland exterritorial …. with it’s own stamps … and old man as King Joe
ReplyOff topic, but I noticed there are some here who suffer from migraines.
ReplyWould you be interested in checking out a web site that offers suggestions?’
If not, I could copy the message I rec’d about three vitamins that could help your case.
I’ll be back in the late afternoon, tomorrow (U.S. PST) to check.
Note: I’d get nothing from this, except the satisfaction that it may helo someone.
I don’t think Michael Jackson will be bothered about where he is buried. That is a dispute between Mr. and Mrs. Jackson. No matter where MJ will be buried; it will become a public shrine for a period of time. In fact, trying to make it more difficult to see him, will most likley make people more curious to get to him. After a while, the interest would drop off anyway. MJ is no longer with the living; so his days of resting in peace are forever. It is anyone that lets his burial place worry them; that is not resting in peace. Whether he rests at Neverland, or some other public shrine is of no importance to MJ. It has no bearing on his abiltiy to be at peace.
ReplyLaToya Jackson has made some shocking claims that she, and her family, believe Michael was murdered by plotters who were desperate to nab his billion pound fortune.
And what’s more, LaToya says she knows who is behind the singer’s murder, and she’s desperate to uncover the truth.
“I know who did it and I won’t rest until I nail them” she said.
“Michael was murdered. And we don’t think just one person was involved. Rather, it was a conspiracy of people. I feel it was all about money. Michael was worth well over a billion in music publishing assets and somebody killed him for that. He was worth more dead than alive.”
The Jacksons have already ordered a second independent autopsy in an attempt to discover the reasons for his fatal heart attack. An official report is due to be released in two weeks’ time, however the family has already been given the results of toxicology tests on the body.
“I think everyone will be surprised when the results come out. I can’t discuss that any further because of the ongoing police investigation.”
She also added:
“Less than a month ago, I said I thought Michael was going to die before the London shows because he was surrounded by people who didn’t have his best interests at heart. Michael was worth more than a billion dollars. When anyone is worth that much money, there are always greedy people around them. I said to my family a month ago.”
http://www.mrpaparazzi.com/post/7643/LaToya-Jackson-Michael-Was-Murdered.aspx
Reply“I knew something terrible was going to happen.
“Michael was being inappropriately treated by people who got him hooked on drugs.
“I can’t say who I believe is responsible as I don’t want to jeopardize the police investigation. But not everybody had Michael’s best interests at heart. A month ago I felt Michael was going to die before he did his London concerts.
“I felt it would be foul play. I felt he’d never make the show.
“They tried to keep the family away at all times, even my dad.
“Michael was being controlled. No one could get through to him.
“We wanted to know why we were being kept away and my father Joe was always trying to get to see him. He tried so hard to be there for Michael. He was seen as a threat but he was trying to help. And if you keep the family away, you can conquer. It’s like they say, divide and conquer.
“Michael always had cash in his homes, usually around $2 million which he used to pay out on things. People said he wasn’t wealthy, but Michael always had money with him.
“When I went to the house later that day there was no cash or jewelery. So many people had been through that house before I got there. Someone went in there and did a good job. It was very strange.”
http://www.showbizspy.com/article/189142/michael-jacksons-sister-he-was-murdered
ReplyMichael Jackson died not in his own bedroom as first reported, but on the bed in the room of his doctor, Dr Conrad Murray, across the hall, according to the late singer’s sister.
The doctor was trying to give him CPR (resuscitation for cardiac arrest) on the bed,” News of the World quoted her as saying.
La Toya tried questioning Murray. She said: “Paris was in tears and said to me, ”There’s Dr Murray. He’s the best cardiologist in the world, how can this happen to Daddy?”
“I said to him, ”Tell me what happened?” But he was vague and simply said, ”He just didn’t make it.” I wasn’t pleased with that answer,
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/ENTERTAINMENT-Hollywood-News-Interviews-Jackos-sis-says-he-died-in-doctors-bed/articleshow/4768690.cms
most of Jackson’s longtime inner circle suspect that the people who had the most to benefit from the London concerts were those associated with the complex web of businesses associated with Tohme Tohme, including the giant real-estate firm Colony Capital. Colony Capital had saved Neverland from foreclosure more than a year earlier by purchasing a $23.5 million credit note in a deal brokered by Tohme.
HIS aides apparently weren’t the only ones who recog nized that the prospect of a 50-concert run was foolhardy. In May, Jackson reportedly addressed a group of fans . “I don’t know how I’m going to do 50 shows,” he told them. “I’m not a big eater. I need to put some weight on. I’m really angry with them booking me to do 50 shows. I wanted to do 10.”
One of his former employees was particularly struck by Jackson’s wording that day: “The way he was talking, it’s like he’s not in control over his own life anymore,” she told me in early June. “It sounds like somebody else is pulling his strings and telling him what to do. Someone wants him dead. They keep feeding him pills like candy. They are trying to push him over the edge. He needs serious help. The people around him will kill him.”
An aide revealed that members of the Nation of Islam seemed to be in control of the singer’s affairs.
http://www.nypost.com/seven/07122009/news/nationalnews/mj_at_the_end__loved_by_men__crewed_by_g_178803.htm?&page=4
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It certainly sounds like MJ had a lot of very seedy, greedy, unscrupulous people around him. Doctors, advisors, financiers, all who wanted money; who allowed, one might say even encouraged this type of tragedy to happen. These people try to isolate a star, keep family, friends away from them, then take over, control them with drugs and take advantage.
Reply@John:
ReplyI think the final resting place will be quite important as far as public access goes. Im not sure interest really will drop off John. Look at Jim Morrison. 40 years on and people are still visiting his grave site in France. I think he should be in a place where the public is allowed to visit freely.
That’s an easy question. MJ should be cremated, with the carbon from his ashes compressed into a diamond, c.f. ‘LifeGem Created Diamonds’: http://www.lifegem.com
Why? So that loving father Joe Jackson can hock it at the local pawn shop to buy himself a purple fur coat and matching fedora, and so that he can sleep easy at night knowing he’s extracted every spare penny from the death of his son.
Reply@I’m on the bidet:
Yes sure seems that way doesn’t it? Was just thinking today was it really appropriate to have a funeral and a memorial concert all on the same day and with Jackson’s coffin sitting centre stage? These things are usually kept separate and the dead person’s body does not normally attend. It was a first for the modern world I think, and for me it was just bizarre and mawkish. Funerals are usually for loved ones to say goodbye, not for a series of entertainers to sing a selction of the departed’s hits to the assembled masses. I hope this doesn’t set a precedent for others in the future. And as for where he should be buried, well I would suggest in the ground in a garden of rest like anyone else. He was just another human being after all.
Reply@Keane Cyber Queen Supreme:
Reply100% agree with you on that. I think it would also be unfair to the people of the Santa Barbara area to impose that monstrosity on them. The infrastructure is not there and it would be awful if they had to deal with crowded small roads and the attendant ridiculousness.
@Vittoria:
ReplyThats a good one Vittoria and I agree with you – Bad Daddy Joe is living up to the name I gave him!
@Alif:
ReplyHi Alif – sure any info you can provide that might be helpful is appreciated by me. Thanks.
Any one see the latest that Joe now wants custody of the children. He’s seeing the $ signs. Given that Debbie Rowe did not instantly go to court to get custody, I really do think the only reason she’s sticking her oar in is to make sure that Joe stays out of the kids lives in any significant way. I also wonder if anyone has considered that if Katherine dies, Debbie would most likely be granted custody.
As for Michael – I say cremate him and scatter the ashes over the Pacific, then fans can go to any Pacific beach.
ReplyThey could shoot his ashes into the atmposphere so he can reign over us like the god he is (eyeroll).
Replythe gift bags for soldiers are awesome! But what the hell is wrong with whorealina’s face in this photo?
http://www.wwtdd.com/2009/07/angelina-jolie-is-awesome/
I’m not a fan of hers, but hanging out with the soldiers and giving them goodies is actually really really cool and thoughtful. They aren’t thanked enough by our government and other members of our society. I’ll give AJ two thumbs up for this (even if it is self serving in her promo dept).
Reply@backalleyknees:
Yep she’s targetting the middle America market with her PR right now, and trying to come across as less concerned with people in any country other than the US which has been her wont, and trying to make it look like she’s not doing it for the publicity. Apparently Jack Nicholson also did it but there aren’t any pics of that and he didn’t give each of them a grand in a rather embarrassing and, in my view, patronising act of charity. I’ve got to hand it to Angelina, she is trying every trick in the book to save her neck in the future, she gets full marks for effort from me. She also cried at the refugee conference I found out from a mag today, plus she has died her hair lighter to look less like an evil Disney Queen. I like your idea for MJ’s final resting place BTW, but I hate to break it to you but that send-off has actually been reserved by Angelina for her exclusive use. After all, she is the most heavenly creature the world has ever known, she is the only one who deserves it. There is only room for one living god in our world after all! MJ will have to settle with the earth like all us mere mortals!
Reply@Keane Cyber Queen Supreme:
Haha! You’re absolutely correct. Although, I think she’ll want an actual shrine. I see her in some alpine town where you have to hike for hours through natural beauty (that her holy followers will claim grew super strong in honor of her beauty) to get to a golden shrine that is engraved with a bunch of self-serving quotes from the hoeliness herself about self-love and world compassion. Please feel free to add to this idea…
I apologize, a bit hungover and foggy today so the snark isn’t up to its normal quality.
Reply@Keane Cyber Queen Supreme:
Replytotally OT but I was wondering if you had come across some of the pianos that have been placed throughout London? I just saw a news piece on it and thought it was a great idea.
@Keane Cyber Queen Supreme: I’m in the military and she’s a skank. I wouldn’t go see her at a USO event. BUT good that she went to Walter Reed those guys need an morale booster they can get. As for it being a PR stunt—I’ve only seen two references to it–here and facebook–so hopefully it was just a genuine attempt to help folks. Maybe she needed to show Brad some middle America values?
Reply@backalleyknees:
ReplyI think they should have thrown her self-serving ass out of there. She is just using them and they should be highly offended but……….they are guys (mostly), so are too stupid to think with their brain.
@backalleyknees:
Hm, I’m not sure any burial location would suffice for La Holiness, there would be no one place on earth that would be adequate to home her gargantuan ego methinks. I think like you said, she would have to be shot into the atmosphere in the form of millions of particles of ash so that she could reign as a god over us mere mortals in the sky for ever and ever. Either that or her form would be compressed into a rare gemstone which would become the most precious, priceless object the world has ever seen for eternity. Which ever one she picks, the whole world will of course pray to her, sacrifice their first borns on her birthday and have holidays and ceremonies based entirely around her life for eternity. That old geezer God will become completely irrelevant now we have the new Goddess and Mother Earth Jolie to worship. Her descendants will continue to live on this earth and be awarded living saint status for years to come. They will be given the authority to rule the continents of the earth and when their numbers multiply, each country and region of the world in particular. Jolie’s rule will spread far and wide for eternity. She is the best human being that has ever lived, and she has done it all still looking f*ckable in the process. What more could the human race want?
Reply@backalleyknees:
Not yet, sounds like a great idea though. I’m not sure how long they’ll last without being vandalised/destroyed though!
Reply@bluiznsmilez:
Well she’s in a bit of a tricky position now in that she knows people know she does charity for publicity. She has to try to make it look like she isn’t publicising it. But obviously she knows if she poses for a few pics those will inevitably find their way into the public arena. I find it hard to believe a woman who has exploited her husband, her children and vulnerable people around the world for pubicity would do anything if there wasn’t something in it for her. JMO!
Reply@Keane Cyber Queen Supreme:
ReplyThat’s the amazing part! I guess they’ve been there since the beginning of June and no one has stolen or vandalized any of the pianos. They are throughout London. here’s the site:
http://www.streetpianos.com/london2009
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/london/8114859.stm
@Vittoria:
Replydoesn’t she look odd/off in that photo though? I thought it was a cheap impersonator at first.
@Keane Cyber Queen Supreme:
ReplyThat’s the funny thing. People on other sites were saying “and she did it without publicity…out of the good of her heart…” well funny enough, the world is now being let into her charity work again. Maybe the “leak” was delayed just for her to claim that she didn’t want the attention, but now that its here ALL HAIL THE QUEEN SUPREME BEING!!
@backalleyknees:
She knows that if someone takes a pic of her it will get out. She is the most famous/marketable woman in the world, of course those pics will get into the public domain. Had she wanted to keep a low profile she just wouldn’t have posed for a pic. I don’t think she breathes if there isn’t a camera to record it. Most celebs do charity work without it ever coming to public attention. They certainly don’t announce things like I am now donating this specific figure to this specific charity. It is so not the done thing to talk about the size of a donation you’ve made anyway. Angelina’s donations are always announced publicly and her deeds (as minor as they are) recorded. She is the consumate public relations professional!
Reply@backalleyknees:
Hm, well have you seen pictures of Kylie Minogue lately? She’s had so much botox and fillers in her face it has swollen up like a balloon and she looks like a chipmunk. If you look at the pics of AJ crying at that refugee shindig recently her skin looks really thin and old, she is aging rapidly. So, what’s she going to do about it? It totally changes the way their face looks though, Nicole Kidman is another example. It’s bizarre that they think it looks better than a few wrinkles!
Reply@Keane Cyber Queen Supreme:
ReplyThanks , you ‘ve got mail. lol I just watched that too on Lifetime.
@Keane Cyber Queen Supreme:
ReplyI completely agree with the Kylie Minogue statement. Her face looks all sorts of odd. It really is too puffy now. I’d think the other reason these actresses look like they age so quickly is because of the amount of makeup they have to live in for their “craft”. The amount of chemicals in makeup is frightening and having them on your face all the time is obviously going to lead to the break down of said skin. I’m willing to let Nicole Kidman slide only because I like her. Although there are times when I want to tell her to back the hell away from the needle. I saw pictures of both Nicole and her sister Antonia and her younger sister seems to have aged more naturally and gracefully than Nicole. Nicole may not have wrinkles, but her face is too plastic and looks so changed from when she looked so lovely years ago. We age, it sucks and its nature’s cruel trick, but it to me it is unseemly to try and appear like a 20something when you are a mature woman. Doesn’t mean I’m ruling out a “refreshning” procedure in the future (I’m in my mid/late 20’s), but to try and recreate what I look like now at 45 is just not gonna happen. I don’t want to look like I’m competeing with my daughter or her friends. I don’t have any children yet, but seeing women who compete with their daughters…it turns my stomach.
@backalleyknees:
She did that without publicity about as much as Brad did the bike breaking down with the Dad helmut with the paps. lol sure. no, this is the new marketing plan, Julia Roberts did it awhile back, she pretended the paps got in her face, pulled overf and began screaming at them for photographing her kids, only problem was someone witnessed the whole thing being staged. lol
Brad did a good job acting indignant though, best acting ever, almost. He was a little too antsy. People were asking “where are they?” so what happens? he pops out on his Vintage bike that just happens to break down. He just happens to be wearing Dad helmut, looks good for a split, and he says, “oh, camera is still on” that gave him away. He is not that naive. He knows they are not going to turn the camera off, just as Jolie knew those pics would be leaked in a nano second after the person walked out the door. They have been bashed to hello and back for putting the kids out and for their own mugs, for calling the paps, so now they are trying this approach. They have each most likely got a new person guiding them through this split and how they should be viewed. Who was the guy Brad hired when they were caught cheating before, famous PR guy, even though he already had Cindy G.
Reply@backalleyknees:
ReplyShe’s a freak!!!!!! All of these places referring to her as such a stunning beauty I find incredible. The appeal is gone. She is a skinny dishrag with the body of a 12 year old boy (except for for the sacks of silicone). Her look is very hard and i do no see the appeal at all.
Where should Michael be buried? Did he leave instructions in his will? I know in one interview he said he never wanted to ever go back to Neverland. If he did not leave instructions then I can see how this is a mess, but I hope his mom wins out. I think the way Princess Diana’s resting place was handled was very nice and respectful. The children should be able to visit their father without tourist gawking at them. jmo
Reply@Keane Cyber Queen Supreme:
“I don’t think she breathes if there isn’t a camera to record it.”
That reminds me of the Madonna Truth or Dare flick where Warren Beatty says pretty much exactly that to her.
Reply@Kate:
So have you! And BTW re: that crazy rumour, I am beginning to think it is not so crazy. I always wondered what the hell that post of SR’s was about which was basically all quotes from the story about the diamond thiefs. I have never really had a clue what the significance of it was and kind of forgot about it and discarded it because it made no sense to me. But there was obviously a point to it, otherwise why would he have quoted it so heavily after all. Then the bit about the “velvet-lined boxes visible from the highway”, check your mail, it makes sense. If it is true it is shocking and ludicrous and I can’t believe anyone would be so stupid as to do something like that, but you never know. And of course if it is true they are both finished, which is why it is so hard to believe!
Ok got to go, night all, catch you soon x
Reply@Kate:
ReplyNice response Kate! I had no idea about Julia Roberts pulling that stunt. When did brad break down? I’ve been super busy/out of town and haven’t had the chance to catch up on the gossip. I’m still curious about the BP/AJ sighting by the Australian tourists. I wonder what they were doing together? Maybe they are over but can’t give up the sex? It has been too quiet though. Commenters on other sights are saying they just want to have “private time”. Sorry, that doesn’t add up. These PR whores have been all about showcasing the greatest love story of all time for years and now they are nowhere. I think Cannes bit them in the ass. Her appearance looking haggard and out of it. They’re the kind of couple that when all is quiet…something ain’t right.
@Keane Cyber Queen Supreme:
It is just the other way around Keane! Jolie does publicity for charity – namely she raises awareness as an UNHCR goodwill ambassador. Yes that IS a public relation`s job as Jolie is neither a doctor nor a social worker. So keep your cynism to yourself as it just shows your lack of arguments and makes you seem rather desperate!
Reply@Keane Cyber Queen Supreme:
Replyso unfair. what mystery did you ladies crack?
@ladybert62:
I’ll type it as I’m not good at cut and pasting.
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Reply@backalleyknees:
Replyyea – I agree – I know that puzzle – what do Kate and Keane know now that we dont. I have had a bummer weekend (hubby gone, plumbing problems) and now secrets between posters. Boo hoo hoo…..
@ladybert62:
ReplySorry, nothing, it was about my mom, not the site. I did email IAN after you wrote the ode to him and ask if he could give us an idea what was going on but he did not reply so I have no idea either.
@backalleyknees:
ReplyShe is talking about the twins, the rumor that she did not have them, that they don’t really belong to them etc. The big conspiracy that looms. Remember the story that they had committed the biggest fraud, and it had something to do with the twins. Some feel she had IVF and then she had a miscarrigage so then she faked it.
@backalleyknees:
ReplyI don’t believe they are still having a rendezvous. If they were there they were probably meeting on mutual ground to sign papers, etc. I know my daughters firm often meets with clients when they have to fly to another city in a hotel, they do it in a suite area. I don’t think either of them would want lawyers coming and going from their homes or for them to be seen going to the law offices. Could be many reasons. What would not make sense is for them to be there having a rendezvous, that hotels is a magnet for celebs, unless of course it was a set up to make people think they are together. What are the odds someone would run into them without security around them? zero jmo
@Kate:
Replywhere’s Holly?
@mia:
ReplyIt is a well known fact that when she applied to the UN she admitted that the reason she wanted the position was to help change her wild wack nasty dark image. That was revealed a few years ago by a representative from the UN. Mia please keep in mind we have 1st Amendment rights. You do not get to tell another poster to keep their thoughts to themselves.Like any of us you can simply not read it if you do not agree or it bothers you. This is a gossip blog, and we are here to share our thoughts, not keep them to ourselves. jmho
@backalleyknees:
ReplyHave no idea.
@Alif:
ReplyI have had migraines for many years, life threatening in fact because I have a porta foraman ovale in addition to that which makes he a high candidate for a stoke. I have tried all of that. I have seen the best best specialist . Only thing that worked for me was to become a vegetarian , almost no fat diet, excercise, and in high stress times-topamax. That is the reason I am so small.
I think he should be buried at Chuck E. Cheese. That seems about his speed. Vitiligo pepperoni!
Reply@Kate:
I just went back to read more on Holly-nearly-got-her-identity-stolen stories from about a year ago…..BTW …when googling AJ blackberry …. I came to a site and my computer got attacked ….. hahaha …..having miscarriage after IVF is an interesting thought…. are they any photos of Holly after Kung Fu Panda in Cannes pregnant ? Like giving birth in an Atlanta hospital ? I don’t think so….just too many coincidences ….
Reply@Ms Agatha:
ReplySince there is no news and in celebration of the first birthday we should copy some of those riddles about the twins and give them another shot , maybe we will have a different perspective now.
@Kate:
Replygreat idea ! lets do it !
@Kate:
ReplyI don’t there’s going to be a different perspective. I believe more people than not have felt something is not quite right with the twins situation. It is in fact how people such as myself first began an interest in reading about this particular subject. It just walked like a duck, talked like a duck, etc. and something wasn’t right. Combined with the all the curious pregnancy pics and all the other bits, many people haven’t bought it. As Keane pointed out earlier, she is a total fame whore who doesn’t really breathe without the camera (like someone else we know). In other words, I can see a person such as that justifying such actions to themselves.
diamond thieves – separate issue or no?
@backalleyknees:
ReplyOkay, what crazy rumor? Re Blood Diamonds. Okay, so what do we know. Well, it starred Leonardo DiCaprio Jennifer Connolly and Djimson Honsou. Okay, I don’t see AJ having anything to do with Leo, but Djimson was in Tomb Raider.
BTW he was in the second Tomb Raider in 2003, the Cradle of Life
ReplyAnd we have Simon West who wrote Cradle of Life, and we have a Simon West Melbourne Diamonds Fine Jeweler. I know, grasping at straws here, but there must be something!! hahaha
ReplyHmmmm, and AJ was eating cake on the set of Salt to celebrate Simon West’s birthday (I thought it was for HER birthday??)
ReplyCan anyone please paste the post re the Blood Diamonds here……unable to find … thanks !
Reply@Ms Agatha:
This is the one after that the Brady Bunch one, that said Brad did Alice-
Dust the grit…James looked offended and tickled…felt like a maid…checkered band and lace-up boots…blood vial biological…dust off the bible…like lamb’s wool…Jesus had hair…lips look like black plum…Jame’s snake crossed her path…head to foot…like a death rattle…Braddy fights daddy…a little wine…here’s the story…of a man named Braddy…the youngest one in curls…the Brangie Bunch…the Brangie bunch…that’s the way they became the Brangie bunch…butterfly light on the rail…eyes filled with tears…appliqued figures…peach, plum and cherry…nice bright Sunday…rosed red and pink…tap-tap tapping on the gravel…patterns on the sacks…naturally clammed…ride and drive…tongue on the boots…dream of murder or wake…smuggle in a file…big bridge…blow the whole thing to kingdom come…good prisoner…best con…sucks in her breath…looking wild with a bad wandering eye…witch hazel and needles…colored tendant…two little slits for eyes…the two driving the mules…thump, thump, thump…nottiest, kinkiest and undernourished…Liepstacoq Bua…Hari Ibu…Shubo Matri Dibosh!
I went back and read the whole thread. Amazing how insightful everyone was. I did not work on this one, but SR confimed that he used The Color Purple as a base for this, and it is her AJ fav book.
He pretty much confirms that she used a surrogate to carry the twins, (two mules refers to not carrying a child) and the Sunday Rosed reference. It sounds like Brad asked James to take a DNA test, he was offended, but thrilled, he did, it was positive that one was his bio kid. Brad was heartbroken. Someone noted he has (James) Shhhiloh on his license plate. She looks exactly like the Voights these days, exactly like Jon Voight. The riddle also says something about the youngest one in curls. No one is in curls but the youngest would be Viv, and the comment malnourished could apply to her. Comments of Brad drinkink wine, leading to rehab. The end implies he screwed a nannie or someone in a orgie and they got pregnant with a baby boy. At any rate no doubt the twins were not birthed by Angelina but by a surrogate, which in itself is not a big deal, every woman has a right to do that, however, the big secret seems to be that one of the Voights is the father. Brad fought with Daddy. jmo
ReplyAlso, This said Did Brad Shag Alice, Did Angie Shag Greg, Peter , and Bobby? At the time we all did not want to touch that thinking it meant the kids. I don’t think so now. As someone noted The Brady Bunch was a perfect family, but the Color Purple was filled with incest, rape, and a lesbian relationship. IAN confirmed in a chat that Mick Jagger is not her bio dad as some thought maybe? JV is her father. He has implied incest in the family, I don’t know if that included papa or not. I hope not. In The Color Purple she was abused by her step-father, so possibly that may have been who SR was referring to here, not JV, not MJ, and the 3 boys in question are not the children but rather step brothers? That is the way I am reading this.
She ends up with a woman in the end, just as we have been told AJ has been seeing a woman. I think when these were written much of what we know now was know to them already, and looking back it is easier to see. The empty grocery cart, no babies , so that message is very very clear.
The only question is , which one belongs to James, or Dad (please no?) and which ones are his? Knox looks like Brad to a point, Viv it is just to hard to tell, and Shiloh looks so much like her grandfather in those pictures we saw going to the dance studio.
Reply@Kate:
Wow Wow Wow…… it really comes down to what we have been saying over the last weeks …..all makes sense ….. I have seen (somewhere) James license plate……. it’s eerie …BP impregnates the nanny and/or the Sudanese during threesomes ….Shi last photo leaving ballet studio … spitting image of Dad V
Now, what is this about ” jewel boxes visible from highway ” ??? Blackmail payoff ???
ReplyThe only way Jackson will get any rest is to put his ashes on a rocket and send them into outer space. That way deranged fans and obsessed lunatics can never bother him again.
Replybb14. Have some nrews from my Australia, don’t know whether it is old or new news but here we go.
Just read in one of our mags that Brad has bought himself a new pad somewhere in Big Sur (I don’t know where that is) but the address is secret from Ange so she won’t know where he is. This is the place when Brad and Jen were married that they loved to visit. So maybe this is his way of being closer to Jen. I also read back a bit that he wanted more time to see what happens between him and Ange before he goes back to Jen, so by moving this could be what he meant. She will be living in France with the kids. As the story goes Brad wants some time away from each other to see how their relationship fathoms out whether it can be saved or not. He is sick of the fights, her tempers, and whatever else annoys him about her, she is sick of his relationshop with Jen which he refuses to give up.
ReplyBut then it says that he enjoying his free life and living it up so maybe this is what he wants.
Then I turn the page and Posh is accusing Ange of going after David, with that commercial they are doing together. Posh knows how Ange works when she is working with a hottie, she remembers how she took Brad away from Jen.
The Great Deception April 16, 2009
The world’s top discussion…critics carping…no oppressed truth seeker here…Brangie has pulled the wool over everyone…innovation is disemvoweling…Angie uses Ian to filter posts…he should outright ban them…unknown gyres…unleashed energies with anarchic twists…no successful joke…Angie sex tape will emerge…thanks to market forces…like pebbles in a bag…year of plenty development card…unlucky 7…no preggo…reemphasizing an old rule…go-to game…fix the grid…Sudanese supper…Sudanese lunch…Sudanese breakfast…another coal-fire…inexpensive and abundant…a smarter grid…utter chaos…Keane is dead on…So is Kate…solution won’t spring forth…until Angie comes clean…no more baby powder…or white crystals…enterprise is unique but redundant…Scores and guillotines…individual neurons…terabyte per day…Angie neurons…spread out like peanut butter…fear and anxiety…hoping she won’t get caught…millions of brain slices per day…unique barcodes…bunnies and brats…Richard Gere on the phone…so was former President Clinton…so was Madonna…an animal that at first appears normal…divided into microscopic cubes…crinkling around…patch drops down from her lower lip like an exclamation mark…velvet-lined boxes…visible from the highway…incriminating evidence…The biggest Hollywood deception since Rock Hudson and Doris Day…she’s a rich girl…and she’s gone too far…cause she know it don’t matter anyway…she can rely on the old mans money…she can rely on the old mans money…its a bitch girl…but its gone too far cause she know it don’t matter anyway…estoy cansado…buena suerte…te toca a ti…callate….
Reply@benjaminbutton14:
ReplyBig Sur is beautiful. Thanks, all I have heard is that some developer wants us to believe they are buying a place together in Manahattan. lol
@Kate:
With BP’s bikes keep braking down, I wonder if Jenny S, who is working as an auto mechanic on family and friends’ cars and motorbikes is fixing his bikes ? She lives in L.A. and IMO likely to be on call …. now how convenient is this ? lol
Reply@Kate:
ReplyIf it is true, it’s not a place for little kids ….. steep cliffs all the way …. beautiful but easy to fall off….lol
my last post was for you ben..sorry
Reply@benjaminbutton14:
@Kate:
Replycoffins are velvet lined, also very little ones…
Shoot folks, these SR post is making me miss him.
Still popping in to see if he post.
Reply@Ms Agatha:
ReplyHis Malibu property was hardly kid friendly either.
@Kate:
ReplyYou are right … never mind living in glass house ….. I agree, they are done if all gets out
@Kate:
Replyand the old man’s money would be BC ’s ?
@Ms Agatha:
ReplyThe velvet line boxes, I did not think so before, but now, maybe they did have IVF, and she miscarried, so then she made other arrangements because they had already accepted an offer from People. Possible?
@Kate:
ReplyYes, very likely…. my own post shocked me (if that’s possible) ….
@Kate:
ReplyI wished Ian would release book earlier, let’s say around opening IB …… lol… somebody needs to stop charade
@Kate:
ReplyGeraldo just mentioned IAN re MJ book !!!!!!
Fox news ….. saying 3 English papers referring to Ians book
ReplyMichaels father wants the 3 kids to perform as Jackson 3 !!!!
ReplyGrats Ian you made it on Geraldo Fox News !!!
ReplyGrats Ian ! you made it on Geraldo Fox News !!!
Reply@Kate:I seriously doubt any of their properties are child safe/friendly. I don’t think either of them are interested enough in the children to make sure a place is safe. BTW so does this mean that one of the kids is AJ/JH’s or JH and a donor egg?
Replya class=”replyTo” href=”#comment-37842″>@Kate:
Total chaos surrounding birth of twins ……..nothing but open questions
http://www.eonline.com/uberblog/b2955_angelinas_womb_turns.html
Nadine Bauer, the spokeswoman for Fondation Lenval, Jolie’s five-star seaside hospital, told E! News Saturday night that any official word on the birth would be posted on the facility’s website.
There hasn’t been a Jolie update since she checked in nearly two weeks ago.
That appears to shoot down two reports claiming les bébés had been liberated earlier today.
Saturday started off innocently enough, with the general consensus that Jolie-Pitts 5 and 6 were due to arrive via C-section this Tuesday.
But then In Touch Weekly reported that twin girls arrived around 7 p.m., citing an unnamed hospital source.
After which, Bauer was quoted in various outlets, including Us Weekly, Extra and OK!, saying that ITW had “wrong information.”
But judging that response semantically, it could be that the birth simply didn’t occur, that it took place at a different time or that it didn’t involve two girls—those latter storylines were covered by a local newspaper.@Kate:
Reply@Ms Agatha:
He ha been a guest on Geraldo in the past I believe .
Reply@Different Guest:
ReplyI don’t know, it sounds like it is AJ/JH , doesn’t it? That would be illegal. If it is just him donating to the cause, no problem there, not in a legal sense.
@Ms Agatha:
ReplyI always found the report of twin girls suspcious. Makes you wonder, doesn’t it?
st. angie is immortal. when her time comes, god himself will come down to earth to pick her up. Angels will carry her all the way up to heaven. MJ can have the send off.
Reply@Keane Cyber Queen Supreme:
st. angie is immortal. when her time comes, god himself will come down to earth to pick her up. Angels will carry her all the way up to heaven. MJ can have the send off.
Reply@Kate:
Reply….something is rotten in the state of Denmark….. why or why haven’t we seen a photo of Holly w baby ? Makes you wonder too…
@Kate:Very, however if she knew it was his sperm and went ahead with it – she’d be toast here – would shoot her political aspirations as well as her St Angelina to the refugees as well. I’m kind of surprised that some of these countries, which are religiously conservative, don’t tell the UN where to stick it when it comes to some of their “ambassadors”.
Reply@beatrix:
Reply…. and Scotty will beam YOU up…
@Kate:
They can’t take MJ back to neverland. That place has tortured his heart to death. My heart bleeds for MJ’s body and spirit. I think he should rest the way Princess Di did.
Reply@backalleyknees: the last time holly was seen was in washington with mad and pax when ho was doing something i can’t remember, prolly last month. i have many little kids sometimes i easily forget smaller things like ho’s agenda.
Replywho is scotty?
ReplyIf the Jacksons were smart, they’d get him a plot at Forest Lawn, with a headstone and then bury him somewhere else with a headstone that just says Michael Jackson, no dates of birth or death. Michael Jackson is a very common name.
Reply@beatrix:
Replyasylum central internet hour, I see
@Ms Agatha:
ReplyI have never seen a pic of Hollys baby but I heard she had a girl. This will sound awful but it is hard for me to buy that her hubby is really her hubby.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beam_me_up,_Scotty
Reply@Kate:A legally wed beard?
Reply@Ms Agatha:
excuse me?
Reply@Kate:
ReplyI posted his photo a while back …. I agree… also rumored to be beard…. I didn’t know until recently that Holly played in Mighty Heart … she sure looks after her …and hubby got job in Salt
@Kate:
ReplyDidn’t meant to butt in.. but what in pray tell would make you say that..lol..lol
@Different Guest:
The riddle in one part seem to indicate that the sperm was collected after a sexual act, not that it was donated, like maybe on the sly, but that is too far fetched for me. If he is the father of one of the twins it would have to be intentional, but I am thinking the implications are that he is Shilohs father.Since the twins were from a surrogate it would be a bit far fetched to believe that James is one of their fathers, right? However, if Brad thought that he was Shiloh’s father, and then she did the IVF without him because he refused to have more kids or she arranged to have a surrogate carry hers but nots his, and then he found out Shiloh was not his, that would be enough to drive a man to drink. Six kids and not one that he truly has a legal right to if push comes to shove.
Reply@Kate:I think it would be risky to use a sample from a condom rather than a sterile specimen bottle. I think she might lead him on that she needed to use donor eggs.
Reply@cuze:
ReplyWell, to be frank, Holly is pretty, successful, (was doing fairly well even before AJ) and this man she married does not really have much to offer her. I may be totally wrong, but from what I have heard, she takes care of him, she gets him parts to support him, he just sort of follows along after her, and I suppose the most obvious is that she is a catch for him. I know that sounds mean, but you do not see that very much around here, and not at all when people work in the business. Vanity rules.
@Kate:
…where are they going to hide if this goes public ? There is no way that they will ever recover from this, if only even part were true …
Reply@Kate:
ReplyYip.. they always seemed sort of mismatched to me too. But then again, I really don’t know much about Holly (other than in pictures of her with Aj) and have seen even less of him.
@Different Guest:
ReplyYou mean led Brad on that she needed to use donar eggs? maybe. I could see that, if they just wanted plenty of children maybe he did not care who mom was, but then if his donation was not used , ahem ..
@Kate:Depends on what the surogate was hired for. If it’s IVF only the lab tech knows what sperm is being united with which egg. I wouldn’t be surprised about Shiloh. He had his midlife crisis realizes she’s batshit crazy, she needs to hold onto him, she bangs JH and voila – she’s got him by the balls as long as he doesn’t find out.
Reply@Kate:
ReplyHe was the Public Relation Director for Disney World Orlando ( they are connected to CNN ) …. kinda fits into the Brange image …. illusions, illusions haha
@Kate:How many lies did she spin to get him in the first place? IVF and donor eggs just another on the list as long as she gets what she wants.
Reply@Ms Agatha:
ReplyHow will it really ever go public? I doubt it ever will beyond gossip rags and message boards, Toni is the source that said she saw AJ weeks before she gave birth and she did not even look pregnant much less with twins. If she is going to remain a unnamed source then her testimony is worthless. Someone has to come out and say they know for a fact that she did deliver the babies, but they won’t. I would bet Brad will give up all of the kids before he will ever allow anything like this to be exposed. Remember he wanted all six kids, until he was threatened with a past lover challenging him over the paternity for one of the kids. He backed down and then said he would settle for shared. She still wanted sole.
@Kate:
That why we need Ian’s book….. I hope he will be able to address this to some extent without legal ramifications …. and still hope – against better judgement – he will sent a new AJ post this way….
bedtime… hope your mother is better …
Reply@Kate:
ReplyP.S> Thanks for sharing …. : )
@Kate:Sooner or later one of the tabs is going to get DNA evidence from Suri Cruise and the Jolie-Pitts and all hell is going to break loose. Once that genie is out of the bottle it isn’t going to go back in. All it’s going to take is someone posting a report on the Web that the DNA’s don’t match – what’s a celebrity going to do. In order to prove libel, they will have to undergo DNA testing.
Reply@Different Guest:
True, but for someone to do that they have to expose themself. I wonder if Brad’s parents know anything about this. I bet they do. I did not think he would ever walk away from her or the kids but I could see how he would to try and keep this quiet, and to protect the kids. That is not something you would want out there Then look at her lifestyle, what is the chance she is going to live in his vicinity so the kids can see daddy often? Not likely.
@Ms Agatha Thanks, Mom is doing better, very confused still but stronger. I too wish IAN’s MJ book was out already and that he would tell us what is going on. I have come to the conclusion he must be under a gag to not be able to discuss it with us, otherwise I think he would at least let us know what is going on with all this.
Reply@Kate:
No Kate this isn`t a gossip blog. This is a site were nutjobs such as yourself and Keane pick up Ians sick claims such as incest, child molestation and bestiality. You call that gossip? I say that says more about YOU than anybody else and has NOTHING to do with gossip!
ReplyBy the way since when does the first Amendement include defamation and libel? To my knowledge it doesn`t!
@mia:Seriously, if this site upsets you so much why are you here? As to defamation and libel, why is the site still up? Those issues were talked about weeks ago – yet no legal action occurred.
Reply@mia:
ReplyYou do not need to be rude Mia. Many have passed through here and speculated on all of those topics, and I have said many times I hoped it was not true. Do not come here with your self righteous attitude as though you are any better than I. You are posting here as well. I do not see a problem with chatting among friends with different possibilites. Take a stroll to other boards that do not worship the brand and you will see the same. You apparently did not read what I said ,because I very clearly said I did not believe in any child molestation. You must be consfused with the people over at FF who think Brad molested Zahara. I personally think that is absurd , that he is a good father as he can be under the circumstances. As for the bestiality , that rumor was around long before it ever hit this blog. As others have pointed out on other blogs, Angelina and BBT and MM had a rumored history of that. Is it true, I don’t know if it is, I have not seen her engage in such activity. Do I think it is possible, yes . I am not naive enough to believe that when people are whacked out on drugs that they do not get messed up enough to do things that they would not otherwise do. It is a sad thing to see when someone crosses over to the dark side. You can bury your head if you like, but your idol is not perfect. She had enormous emotional obstacles to overcome, imho. I do hope she gets the help she needs and is a dedicated and loving mother to her six beautiful children. If you do not have anything civil to say to me , without the name calling, please just skip my posts. Thanks
i’ve been wondering where the heck are miss 9 cents and sugar ray. and why ian stops writing about scrangie? what happened? i know he’s been busy with his book release, but would like to hear a bit about the developing story of scrangie.
Reply@Kate:
I have never heard about people on other blogs make such claims not even on FF. But even if they have – making a claim does not mean stating the truth but more often than not it is just spreading hearsay or making things up about a disliked person or picking things up as you do when you discuss Sugar Rays sick riddles! A very “sophisticated” form of entertainment I must say (shudder).
Replymia, if you can’t stand the heat, stay out of the kitchen. i don’t mean to be rude, seriously. you sound like a smart person. just a suggestion, maybe best you hang out on another site more suitable to your preference. dont be mad at me. i think posters here are quite polite. no name calling, no exclamation point, and no caps lock please.
Replyhi mia. if you dislike the gossip and feel that you must worship jolie i suggest you go to e on line and join scrapps04 and her friends, they live and breath jolie worship and praises as if it is a religion. i am sure they will welcome you as they sing the song jolie is perfect jolie is kind and the most beautifull and powerful person in the world. you will not change anybodies mind about these two and should then rather state your facts and post links to prove us all wrong about these two morons instead of attacking kate as she has never attacked you. i respect your right to worship these two so please respect other peoples right to their opinions about them. kate i think these two are still together and will be when he promotes ib and maybe for another couple of years as the brand is not played out yet, i hope not as i and i am sure alot of people are so sick and tired of them that to watch any movie with them in is enough to make you sick because they are over exposed with kids and all. jmo
Reply@jan/sa:
Well I certainly don`t worship Jolie – I actually happen to like Pitt more. In fact I think Jolie is a good actress with a troubled past who tried to do something meaningful with her life by being an UNHCR ambassador. I definately think she shouldn`t rush to adopt another child but that doesn`t lead me to think she is a bad mother as I don`t know her and neither do you or anyone else on this board!
By the way I posted more than enough links for example about her UNCHR activities. If you are interested just check out past threads! But I have the slight feeling that most people here are more inteested in gossip that feeds into their dislike of Jolie than in facts!
Reply@mia:
Replypoor jolie…no matter how hard she tries, even if she flies her plane to the moon, or donating her entire belongings for refugees, or bearing/adopting 324 zillion kids more, it will never change her international label as a homewrecker. poor thing indeed.
@beatrix:
Nor will it change the fact that lots of hollywood actors cheat! But you couildn`t care less about “homewrecking” as long as it doesn`t involve Jolie now do you?
Reply@beatrix:
Nor does it change the fact that lots of hollywood actors cheat! But you couldn`t care less about “homewrecking” as long as it doesn`t involve Jolie now do you?
Replythat compares apples to oranges, mia. they are different cases. jolie has singlehandedly put the new meaning to homewrecking. and to describe the story will take too much patient to type it down. you dont have agree with me. this is just my opinion. p.s. brad and jen have their share in their marriage’s demise too.
Reply@beatrix:
Yeah the difference is that the Aniston-Pitt divorece was a media spectacle and quickly turned into the infamous “bermuda triangle” as Jen used to call it. It turned out to be the most profitable scenario for the past five years for the tabs and one they continue to spin for the years to come!
But that doesn`t change the fact that just because other divorces were just sidenotes in the gossip press that they weren`t as or even more devastating for the people involved! See Julia Roberts who married her spouse one day after he divorced his (ex)wife. Julia even mocked the exwife with a wickid T-Shirt “I law Vera” or something like it). And I am not even talking about Mel Gibson, the Gosselins, Madonna or that creep Sean Penn! Or the fact that in “real life” exwives are often left to raise several kids with a small income and minimum spousal support.
ReplyWhatever you say I think Jen and Pitt had problems long before Jolie got involved. There were more than enough rumors in the gossip mags (for example the National Enquuirer) and tabs which provide you with weekly rumors that feed your dislike for Jolie couldn`t possibly lie now could they? Anyway Jen has jumped righht into a relationship with Vince and didn`t seem devasteted for too long.
@mia:
let me try to shorten the story for you. maybe – just maybe – thats because jennifer aniston is much loved by people, especially in the US. I dont know for sure. I myself live in a certain island in asia. the triangle is not so much famous here. people here just dont really care. they busy make their everyday living. aniston has been and still much loved by so many people. she really has a large fan base (maybe larger than the other angle of the “bermuda”). there’s nothing we can do about it. they love her too much. me not really. to me – she’s just OK. i love friends, but mostly chandler. the girls are neurotic in their own way.
Replymia i really do not like people that use the poor to promote themselves. jolie has adopted kids that have extended family just like madonna, and if they where really these great do gooders then they would have helped the family keep the kids and not snatched them away from their culture and homes. on or tv last week we had youngest talking about being adopted out of their culture and you will be amazed that alot of them felt that their culture was important and that if they are adopted outside their culture they should be given lessons on their culture and taught to speak their home language. the unchr as far as i can see is not well thought of and wants to dictate and set rules before they help in my opinion they are pushy and not doing good by anybody. i have not seen any of the poor having a better life because of jolie or pitt. and the best people that help the poor are not announcing it to the world but doing it quitely without the fanfare for pr.
Replyas for whether jen and pitt had problems let me state that no woman with any respect would get involved with a marraige that is having problems nor get pregnant by a man that’s divorced is not finalised. they lied cheated and now the american mags are pushing these two as models for the young that is sick and i would expect any decent woman to be sickened by these two. she can pop out babies and adopt 1000 and donate millions she is still imoral and sold her children for money be it for the poor or pr, no other decent actress has done this until jolie and pitt. as for jen she is well known and loved world wide, and if peewee and jolie had handled the affair with more truth and not run jen down and waited to have kids once the divorce was final as well as not pushing themselves down our throats maybe they would have been better liked althought they will never be respected by me. as for julia i dislike her as well as jlo because of their behaviour although they had the sense to stay out of the public eye and not flaught there kids and attack the ex after the divorce.jmo
@jan/sa:
How exactly did Pitt attack Jen after the divorce?
Reply@beatrix:
ReplyI have to apologize to you Bea, realizing that I read your post wrong , didn’t see the tongue in cheek, peace
what man says he was inspired to get of the couch and do good because of a woman or that he only wanted kids once he met jolie. as well as the w article and the photo op in kenya that is an attack and insult on the ex wife. he lay on the couch because he was a lazy and untidy person , even today you can see the way he looks that he is not neat or clean. and all the lies and articles that have attacked jen are from his interviews as well as the mistress that had alot to say about his marriage sorry cannot post as i am not pc savy like the others. well nice to talk today but must go to the shop as it is my day to run it. maybe you should look up some of the post by the more savvy others. that man respects no woman and jolie can expect the same treatment from him. jmo
Reply@Alif:
ReplyThanks Alif! I am going to look into all the things you mention. I appreciate the time it took for you to find, type all of this!
I get the impression that Brad’s battle with drink & very awkward & uncomfortable demeanour in TV interviews is down to a rather stronger emotion than so far discussed – guilt maybe? I keep thinking of “no $14 million pictures here… Half a pack of smokes…awash with screamers. Then the diamond thief post, SR is saying that someone is a thief. Now wld someone be considered a thief or be doing a “fiddle”, just because they used a surrogate rather than carrying them themselves or the babies weren’t biologically his? I think calling someone a thief or a fraudster or “the biggest HW deception since Rock Hudson & Doris Day” would be a bit strong for that. It has to be an intentional deception IMO, if it was just that the kids weren’t biologically Brad’s then that is something that they wldn’t necessarily have realised at the time. I may be wrong, that may be what it is, but I get the feeling SR is referring to something done in the full knowledge that it was a lie. JMO. Think on it though.
ReplyOMG you guys there is no SR (aka Sugar Ray) its Ian in drag…hence why no new posts from him …ian is too busy self-promoting to come up with riddles ….its all about Ian all the time. And you guys dragging up those stupid riddles trying to make sense of them is ridiculous..the only reason he put them on – was because he couldn’t come right out with his “theories” as they were too libelous to write . This whole site has become a joke on the internet and Ian especially …read the other blogs ….its true.
ReplyTo all: So the Branglie twins birthday was yesterday (7/12/8) and no pics, no headlines, no family-friendly photos of the Holy Family? Are they not getting paid for the one year old’s pics? What gives? Any ideas folks?
ReplyMichael should be buried anywhere very far away from people like you. Please stop pretending you are a Michael supporter in order to sell your book – real MJ fans are not the least bit interested in your views.
RIP MJ
ReplyThe humorous news from Hollywood never ends: It is rumored that since evil Ms. Jolie is doing sexy commercials with hunky Mr. Beckham that Armani (spelling?) is now trying to get Hapless Mr. Pitt to do a sexy commercial with Mrs. Hunky Beckham – whatever her name is! The joke possibilities are endless here folks!
ReplyBagami-as pula in mata de retardat,copil facut din laba,si aruncat pe peretzi…..esti galben la ochi de foame….sloboz..in cur la mata…din Rusia..:))
Reply**************BREAKIING*******************
DOC THAT WAS WITH MJ AT TIME OF DEATH COULD FACE CHARGES IN HOMICIDE IT SEEMS: POLICE HAVE FOUND THE DRUG THAT MOST LIKLEY KILLED MJ IN THE DOCS HOME.
Police find sedative Propofol in home of Jackson’s doctor: report
BY Brian Kates
Daily News Staff Writer
Monday, July 13th 2009, 10:51 AM
Houston Chronicle/AP
According to TMZ, police searched the home of Dr. Conrad Murray and found Propofol, a powerful sedative that may have killed Michael Jackson.
A search of Michael Jackson’s doctor’s home turned up Propofol, the powerful sedative that may have killed the King of Pop, the gossip Web site TMZ reported Monday.
http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/michael_jackson/2009/07/13/2009-07-13_jacksons_doctr.html
This doc is in serious trouble.
ReplyA search of Michael Jackson’s doctor’s home turned up Propofol, the powerful sedative that may have killed the King of Pop, the gossip Web site TMZ reported Monday.
Based on an interview with of Dr. Conrad Murray, police conducted another search of his home and found the prescription drug, which is supposed to be administered only in a hospital, TMZ reported.
The Los Angeles Times cited unnamed sources saying detectives also found large amounts of Diprivan – the brand name for Propofol – at Jackson’s home.
Results of a post-mortem toxicological report are pending. A injection of Propofol has been widely reported as a possible cause of the cardiac arrest that killed Jackson.
http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/michael_jackson/2009/07/13/2009-07-13_jacksons_doctr.html#ixzz0L9v1KIQo&D
We’ve obtained law enforcement documents from the 2005 molestation trial. Included in the records is an affidavit from a Santa Barbara County Sheriff’s deputy who served a search warrant on Dr. Klein in 1993 to obtain Jackson’s medical records during the first molestation investigation.
In the affidavit, the deputy writes, in August 1993, “…Ms. Rowe observed the back of Jackson’s body while she gave him massages to help him sleep. Ms. Rowe also observed Jackson’s buttocks on numerous occasions when she gave him injections prior to acne treatments.”
Reply@beatrix:
It’s the calm before the storm.
ReplyIn addition to Dr. Murray, Dr. Klein is also under investigation, so may be Debbie Rowe, the children’s mother.
Jackson Doc Hid Medical Records, Deputy Says
Posted Jul 13th 2009 8:05AM by TMZ Staff
Turns out this isn’t the first time Dr. Arnold Klein has resisted turning over Michael Jackson’s medical records to authorities — according to a Santa Barbara County deputy sheriff.
http://www.tmz.com/
http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/michael_jackson/2009/07/13/2009-07-13_jacksons_doctr.html#ixzz0L9v1KIQo&D
Jackson’s Docs Allegedly Manipulated Pharmacies
Posted Jul 13th 2009 3:50AM by TMZ Staff
Jackson Docs Not Cooperating, Coroner Claims
http://www.tmz.com/
ReplyAuthorities Closing in On Jackson Doc
Posted Jul 11th 2009 11:53AM by TMZ Staff
Law enforcement sources tell TMZ the central target in both the coroner and LAPD investigations into Michael Jackson’s death is Dr. Conrad Murray, who was at Jackson’s house when the singer went into full cardiac arrest.
Sources say the doctor is not cooperating with authorities, but they have still found evidence linking him to the drug that may have killed Jackson. As we first reported, as a result of Dr. Murray’s second interview with police two weeks ago today, the LAPD obtained a warrant to conduct a second search of Jackson’s home — and that’s when they found Propofol, a powerful anesthesia that should never be used outside a hospital. There is evidence Propofol was administered to Jackson shortly before his heart stopped beating.
And we’re told there is evidence Dr. Murray may have administered the drug. Dr. Murray’s lawyer, Ed Chernoff, told TMZ he would neither confirm nor deny if Dr. Murray administered Propofol to Jackson. Law enforcement sources tell us if they conclude the doctor administered the drug it may well lead to manslaughter charges.
Investigators are also suspicious of the delay in calling 911 — the Dr. says he waited 20 – 30 minutes because he didn’t know Jackson’s address that would lead paramedics to the house. Jackson lived on one of the most famous streets in the world — one house above Sunset Blvd.
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This doc quit his practice for an opportunity of a lifetime. All he saw was money. He was full of greed, he had 6 children with 5 different women. He was a heart specialist. He is a loser.
Sources tell us law enforcement is seriously investigating the prescription practices of several doctors who gave Jackson access to medications. Investigators are particularly interested in doctors who used aliases to write scripts for Jackson. One of the central figures in the investigation — Dr. Arnold Klein.
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It seems the law enforcement were investigating Klein in 2003. Several powerful meds in Tyson’s name were prescribed by Dr. Klein and found at the Neverland Ranch during the 2003 search.
http://www.tmz.com/2009/07/11/michael-jackson-dr-conrad-murray-death-drugs-propofol-dr-arnold-lkein/
Reply@John:
ReplyYIKES – that he is! Is this the same doctor that is not licensed in CA to prescribe anything? Thanks for the info John.
@John:
ReplyAnd what did she see besides pimples? Sorry, the point went over my head.
Angelina reportedly spent 4 hours of the best hours of Sunday at the Raffles L’Ermitage Hotel. She probably wanted to give Brad enough space to spend time with his twins on their birthday. She probably celebrated their birthday earlier and it was Brad’s turn. It is obvious these two aren’t even living together anymore. 4 hours for a meeting? Who are you kidding? Whether she had a date with one of her lover in that hotel and sex usually take that much or even more. Or she just wanted to get out and have fun while kids were with their daddy so he could also contribute to their birthday. There are no picture of her arriving in their LF house or waiting outside of their gate like Brad always does which means she wasn’t anywhere near LF.I think these pics prove they are living apart and Angie get kids during the week and Brad spends time with them during the weekend. Who ever thinks they are still together with all these signs and all these new pics that show how they are living seperate lives is crazy. She spent 4 hours in a hotel for a meeting on Sunday?! That’s so not believable. I wonder when are they gonna announce their seperation?! Probably after IB’s promotion. withing weeks. I naturally feel sorry for their kids but that’s what you get when you jump too fast on making a family. ask Kate and Jon Gosselin.
Reply@ladybert62:
ReplyMy pleasure! And there was more in the article. That’s why I posted his e-mail and postal address. He’s open to questions about the effectiveness and ineffectiveness of his suggestions.
@jan/sa:
ReplyITA!
Sometimes when a person is silent while there’s a war of injustice going on, he nevertheless speaks volumes!
There was a deafening silence from BP while Jen was being attacked in the tabs and on the internet; being accused of everything but starting WWIII. I did read a very negative response from Brad to Jen in one or more news item. It was on the order of telling her to shut up!
JMO!
@jan/sa:
ReplyJan, I agree with everything you said except the reference to the American mags pushing these two as models. I don’t think its just the American mags, Im pretty sure the British mags and others are perpetuating the myth as well.
@ladybert62:
ReplyWhatever she saw apparently neither was interested in.
@ladybert62:
ReplyI would imagine this doctor Murray is in extremely serious trouble. It also appears police are not just stopping at one doctor though, but Murray – the heart doctor most likely killed him and then panicked when he realized what happned. Murray has had several lawsuits against him, with a record of 6 kids and 5 different mothers, he was a loser. Obviously, whoever was responsible for connecting the two, wanted a doc around him who would give and get MJ whatever he wanted, keep him drugged in a state of helplessness, and vulnerabilty to manipulate him, get him to play the concerts, and keep this doc wealthy. Klein and any other doctor, dentists included are also being investigated by police. Can you imagine what they are experiencing right now? They thought they would get away with everything; business as usual. I say, these docs and dentists, etc, anyone responsible for Jackson’s death, should also pay for his memorial tribute, pay back the city of LA.
@John:
ReplyHi John – is Murray the doctor that was hired by the London concert peeps to be at MJ’s side all the time during his rehearsals etc? Or is he a different doctor – for some reason I cant keep these doctors straight? Which doctor was the double-name guy: Tohme Tohme? Is he also in trouble? I think the family/Estate should pay LA for the memorial costs.
Becks Denies Jolie Model Rumors
Posted by ExtraTV Staff on July 13, 2009 10:58 AM
Soccer stud David Beckham stripped to his skivvies for a series of sexy Emporio Armani advertisements, but he denies that he’s going to pose for even steamier ads with Angelina Jolie.
“I don’t think that’s true,” David reveals. “I definitely don’t think that’s true. Think it’s something put out in the press.”
Beckham, who surprised children at a soccer camp in El Segundo, Calif. over the weekend, added that he’d pass if asked to pose with the “Changeling” beauty. “She’s an amazing person and so is Brad. They’re an incredible couple — got an amazing family. You know she wouldn’t do it and I wouldn’t do it. At the end of the day, I wouldn’t do it because I’m married.”
David and his wife Victoria have posed for Armani ads together. The couple recently celebrated their ten-year wedding anniversary.
Replyhttp://extratv.warnerbros.com/2009/07/b … _rumor.phpTop
@d:
What are you going to tell me next, Father Christmas isn’t real?!
Hm things are beginning to fall into place with me re: Brange. The distraction techniques of Me/well/Margarita, the omnipresence of Ange’s PR team, the keen interest of Ange herself, their bombardment of Ian with totally made up, utterly ludicrous stories. Yep, I see exactly what’s been going on now, and it very nearly worked too, except for Kate passing on a rumour to me in private that made me think. It’s those diamond thief posts that we need to think about, the “Angie’s neurons spread out like peanut butter” stuff, the “desperately trying to cover her tracks”, the “no $14 million pictures here…half a pack of smokes…awash with screamers (i.e. people who are going to tell)”, Brad hitting the bottle, looking very, very uncomfortable in interviews both on the TV and in mags (as noted by the journalist), the unique barcodes bit, the enterprise that is unique but redundant, the see the “plushies and fiddles” in her shopping cart, the “velevt-lined boxes visible from the highway”, why she had all of the children outside the US, Holly’s announcement that she had delivered the twins when she hadn’t (something that was completely verified by the journo involvced so was indisputable), the fact that we have only seen the twins once, from long distance and with their faces turned to the bodies of their “parents” since their birth yet we see the other children all the time. Hm, hard to say at this stage exactly what has gone down, but these are all the key elements of the mystery I think. It’s what people have tried to distract us from for sure. I’ll be very interested to see how this plays out.
Reply@Keane Cyber Queen Supreme:
ReplyWell since you and Kate are still exchanging secrets, I think it is rude to mention them to us but not tell what the secret is and then to pretend that you and her understand the puzzle that is beyond the rest of us. Sorry I am grumpy today but that is my opinion.
@ladybert62:
That’s a shame. I don’t know what the secret is either which is why I suggested we think about it. And to be honest even if I did know what it was, I wouldn’t be saying it explicitly here. Ian is pretty safe from being sued, posters aren’t, hence the need for subterfuge.
Reply@Keane Cyber Queen Supreme:
ReplyOK thanks for clarification.
@Keane Cyber Queen Supreme:Personally I think the secret is: not is all kosher with the children. That AJ is reported to have not spent the whole day with her twins on their first birthday is telling to me. I really don’t think she’s bonded to any of her biological or pseudobiological children. IMO, the only child she does seem attached to is Maddox.
Think about it what is a career killer? Sex outside of marriage? Probably not. Using a surrogate and passing the children off as your own? Probably done a lot more often than we think by celebrities and non celebrities. Telling one person they are the father of your child when you know damn well they aren’t? Maury would be off the air if that didn’t happen. Humans seem to have an inherent revulsion to incest, and to the offspring of such a relationship – career killer? Absolutely.
Reply@ladybert62:
Yes, Murray was the doc hired by AEG:
The Concert promoter paid for Michael Jackson death doctor. Michael Jackson had insisted his concert promoter pay for his personal physician, a financially troubled cardiologist who was with the entertainer as he died.
Dr Conrad Murray was hired by AEG Live to accompany the pop star to London for his comeback series of concerts, said AEG Live’s president and chief executive, Randy Philips.
Records reveal years of financial troubles for Murray, who practises medicine in California, Nevada and Texas. His Nevada medical practice, Global Cardiovascular Associates, was slapped with more than $400,000 in court judgments and he faces at least two other pending cases and several tax liens.
Not to mention; the guy has 6 children, with 5 different women.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2009/jun/27/michael-jackson-doctor-conrad-murray
************Now this is where it gets really interesting. Murray is insisting on being paid for his services:
If that doesn’t beat all, than I don’t know what does. He kills him, and wants to be paid for it 
http://www.contactmusic.com/news.nsf/article/doctors-lawyeraeg-owe-jacksons-medic-money_1108083
Dr. Tohme, was Jackson’s financial adviser: Like dr. murray, he too had a murky past.
For the last year and a half, I was the closest person to Michael Jackson
Tohme said he helped negotiate a deal with his close friend, the chairman of Colony Capital, who was hesitant to get involved until he was persuaded to go visit Jackson in person. Impressed by Jackson’s “intelligence and focus,” Colony agreed to buy the mortgage on the home and keep it out of foreclosure.
That deal brought Tohme, believed to be in his late 50s, and Jackson, 50, together in a partnership that included the contract for what was scheduled to be Jackson’s triumphant return to the top of his game: a 50-show run at the O2 arena in London that was to begin next Monday.
He said Jackson was excited about the concerts because they would be a chance for his three young children to see him perform.
Though he’s often described as being mysterious, Though he apparently uses the title “Dr.” and has a medical degree, there is no record of Tohme practicing medicine in the U.S. He has been stung by allegations that he was involved with the Nation of Islam, which he said was untrue.
“I have nothing against anybody,” he said, “But I don’t know anyone from the Nation of Islam. When I took over Michael Jackson’s affairs, I fired some people from the Nation of Islam.”
He also claimed Jackson never took drugs
. He’s not to be believed.
“To be able to perform, AEG had to get insurance and he had a four-hour physical by a doctor chosen by the insurance company,” he said. “For a guy to go on and dance for four hours, not even an athlete can do that, and he was doing this at rehearsal every day.” Several reports identified Tohme as the personal physician who was trying to revive the pop legend when EMTs arrived at his LA-area house yesterday. It’s being reported that authorities want to question Tohme, but that he had gone missing.
http://yalibnan.com/site/archives/2009/07/dr_tohme_michae.php
http://famespy.com/2009/06/26/michael-jackson%E2%80%99s-alleged-physician-dr-tohme-tohme-i-wasnt-there-when-jackson-died-tmz-reveals-dr-conrad-robert-murray-lived-with-jackson/
Reply@Different Guest:
Yes, I agree with you there. I really don’t think that if it turned out that they had used a surrogate that it would be that big a deal. It’s widely rumoured that Kidman did and SJP is just coming out and saying she is nowadays. I think people would be sympathetic to the fact that she couldn’t have children if that was the case, I don’t think it would dent their popularity too much. And if some of them weren’t Brad’s, well yes that would attract an awful lot of negative press, but I think she would survive it. I get the impression that in order for someone to be so fearful of something getting out that it has to be more serious than that, something that was deliberately and intentionally designed to deceive. If the kids weren’t biologically Brad’s then she could always claim ignorance and say what a mistake it was a la Jeremy Kyle/Trisha in the UK and this Maury that you speak of in the US! It would be embarrassing for them and her halo would be tarnished, but I don’t think it would be bad enough to cause the fear and anxiety that SR spoke of in the diamond thief post. To me the significance of referring to a story about diamond thieves is that whatever it is alluding to was a preconceived, planned out, deliberate deception for the purpose of financial gain. What made me think about it like this is the rumour that Kate mentioned to me (which I have no idea where she heard). If it were true it would be the most bizarre, ludicrous and stupid move on anyone’s part that I have ever heard in my life, which is why I find it unlikely at this stage. But then there are a lot of things that have been said on this site which I previously would never have believed in a million years which you would have thought someone would automatically sue over but it hasn’t happened, so I keep an open mind. I keep thinking back to those posts and those quotes which I can remember well as they were written in a poetic style. When you put different fragments together from different posts, things are suggested as a whole that you may not have gleaned from individual stories. “The biggest deception since Rock Hudson and Doris Day” – what did that mean? I believe Brangelina did genuinely have a relationship, he was probably a lot more into her than she was to him, but nevertheless it was still a real relationship. So what has been the massive deception, the biggest for 50 odd years of HW history then? That’s what I think is the most potentially incendiary element of everything we’ve read on this blog so far and what people have probably wanted to distract us from. I have no idea what is being referred to though!
ReplyHm, then I keep thinking about why we have only seen the twins once since the first photospread but we see the other 4 kids all the time. And the stories about AJ wanting to debunk to a foreign country and take the kids with her, thus removing them from the public gaze. The compound-like houses they buy/stay in, which prevent any photogs getting remotely near them unless specifically asked to. Hm, this crazy rumour has got me thinking! It will be interesting to see how this pans out. If this rumour is true then everyone will know eventually anyway, it just would not be possible to keep it quiet for very long. But it may just be a wild rumour, could just be one of the more likely options that have been mentioned before. We shall see I guess!
ReplyLast night I consulted a group of my fellow Oxford colleagues to determine the best resting place for Michael Jackson. After hours of scholarly deliberation, we determined that his body should be placed head first up Ian Halperin’s ass.
Reply@Keane Cyber Queen Supreme:What I find rather interesting is that in recent months we’ve never seen them with more than 2 kids at a time. To me that means when “alone” each of them can’t control the 4 older ones in public to be photo op’d. I wonder who will be on the cover of Friday’s People or if there will be a story inside.
Reply@Keane Cyber Queen Supreme:
ReplyMy guess is because one or both are starting to greatly resemble someone they are not suppose to resemble – thus, the cat is out of the bag!
@ladybert62:
Everyone stop making up stuff. It allergies………wink, wink, wink
http://backseatcuddler.com/2009/06/27/angelina-jolie-brad-pitt%E2%80%99s-twins-in-danger/
ReplyHi IAN: Where is the Break-Up?
Angelina Jolie And Brad Pitt ‘Planning Move To New York’…They’re looking at upper West Side landmark…
http://www.entertainmentwise.com/news/49132/angelina-jolie-and-brad-pitt-planning-move-to-new-york
http://www.nydailynews.com/gossip/2009/07/12/2009-07-12_brad_pitt_and_angelina_jolie_looking_for_new_york_digs_including_apthorp.html
Reply@Keane Cyber Queen Supreme:
ReplyYe shall see mine foot in thine arse.
@ladybert62:
ReplyBingo…. was thinking of the old man BBa myself lol
@keane cyber queen supreme:
ReplySeveral things come to mind:
1. He can’t get kids, infertile … none of the kids are his …. it’s all a scheme …. for the money
2. Some are his, some not…. he knew and played along for the money
3. Some are his, some not …. he didn’t know
4. None are his …. he didn’t know
5. In any of the above cases he could have played along using surrogates …. forgot to make sure it was his sperm though
@Ms Agatha:
Replynot BBTHornton !
@d:
ReplyWhat other blogs?
@Keane Cyber Queen Supreme:
Well the only made up stories here came from Ian and his alter ego buttfiriend Sugar Ray! You got to bet kidding Keane! Do you seriously believe this Sugar Ray drivel that you cited? I tell you what it means: It means that Jolie is smuggling diamonds! Bwahahah! Now take your meds because you are seriously starting to halluzinate!
By the way I happened to watch an old Showbiz Tonight video on youtube were Entertainment Tonight admitted that they were informed on JUNE 6 of an imposter who claimed to be Holly. Nevertheless ET decided to run with the birth announcement anyway! See – mystery solved. By the way twins were born on JULY 12.
Replyhttp://www.showbiz411.com/michael-jackson-jacko-ian-halperin-tohme
Reply@Ms Agatha:
Hm, well the rumour that Kate mentioned to me was even crazier than those options (although that might not seem possible!). If it were true then they really wuold be thieves but then they would also be categorically the most stupid people to have ever walked the earth because there would be no way they could keep the charade up. But I guess you just never know with people who believe in their own hype so much they think they are untouchable. I will have to discuss with Kate further and find out where she heard it. If it is true it would be utterly mental!
Reply@TobyKat:
Hm, methinks when stories are being put out about dangerous allergies which prevent the children from ever being seen in public, but there is no comment on it by the parents, there is most definitely something afoot. That confirmed it for me. I wonder how dangerous these allergies are and whether the twins will manage to survive infancy….
Reply@keane cyber queen supreme:Wouldn’t surprise me if AJ is utterly mental. I could see her thinking she could fool all the people all the time. Not so sure Brad’s parents could be fooled though. Jane Pitt has given birth to 3 children, if they tried to pass off the twins as being a certain age, she might start to question it. I remember the Vanity Fair photos of Tom Cruise and Suri, and quite a few mothers said that she did not look to be the age they were claiming. I’m thinking there was a photo of her holding head up – something an older infant would be able to do.
Reply@keane cyber queen supreme:the symptoms described could also be the result of a baby being born addicted to drugs or to certain genetic defects.
Reply@keane cyber queen supreme:
And I remember the last time a tabloid reported that the twins were sick the airport pictures appeared showing: two more than wellnurished babies that are far from too small for their age with very round cheeks! Looks ike that tabloid trick didn`t work this time! How unfortunate! Hahah!
Reply@Different Guest:
Hm yes well that would lend itself to the theory that Suri may have been born before they said she was. And as for Brange well all I would say on them is that I think Ange would be a lot more comfortable telling a lie than Brad. Not to say he has never lied or would ever do it, but I think it is much more obvious with him, it’s written all over his face!
Reply@mia:Use your brain Mia, how do we know those babies really were Knox and Vivienne? Just because Pitt and Jolie were carrying them? The only previous pictures were taken what 6 months earlier?
Reply@Different Guest:
Yes but I don’t think that’s what’s going on though. I think the allergies story sounds made up and it has been created deliberately to explain why the babies are never seen in public and the older ones are all the time. I think the reason they are being kept hidden has nothing to do with health problems at all. I think that’s just an excuse.
Reply@Different Guest:
Yep, precisely.
Reply@keane cyber queen supreme:Mia has raised a very interesting possibility – the children that were photographed in the Tokyo Airport aren’t really their twins. If you think about it an airport stroll is the perfect place to pull something like that off. There’s a great book by the late Paul Gallico called The Zoo Gang. The last story in it is about the kidnapping of a baby – how it was accomplished was by a couple who had a baby of the same age. You see someone with a baby – you assume it’s theirs.
Reply@Different Guest:
Yep, as I mentioned before, I think that photo opp was interesting in that both babies were being carried in papuses (sp?!) facing towards Brad and Ange. Brad was walking very fast far ahead of Ange and “Knox” was wearing a cap. The shots were all taken from a distance as they were coming out of an airport terminal. Had they been “visiting the toy store” or some such other favourite photo opp set-up, the paps would have been able to get a lot more shots and much clearer ones at that. Just an observation on the only sighting of the twins since the mega-bucks earning People photospread!
Reply@keane cyber queen supreme:Not only was Knox wearing a cap, Viv’s head was covered as well. Does raise some interesting questions about whether or not there was any kind of pregnancy.
ReplyLooks like I might be right about Debbie Rowe. ABC is reporting that she and Katherine Jackson have been meeting secretly, Debbie wants time with the children and to be sure that Joe Jackson will never get guardianship.
Reply@Different Guest:
Oh yes, I forgot about that, she had her hood up too didn’t she? You’ve basically deduced what I was getting at re: the crazy rumour Kate mentioned to me which I would never have thought of in a million years and Kate thought was far too crazy to be possible. I thought the same because it just sounds like the most stupid idea in the history of ideas to me. They are the most famous couple in the world, even if they split up, people will always be interested in their children. It makes no sense to me whatsoever so I am still not convinced. I just keep thinking of the line “the biggest deception since Rock Hudson and Doris Day”. I wonder if more will be revealed in Ian’s book?
Reply@Different Guest:
I think whatever happens with them, they have enough people around them who care about them to make sure they turn out ok. The grandmother seems to care, the nanny seems to care, the aunts and uncles seem to care adn the bio mother seems to care to a degree too. Between them I think they have enough people around them to make sure they are cared for and turn out alright. Provided they are kept as far away from bad daddy Joe as possible!
Reply@Different Guest:
DG are you in Europe? I assume you must be to be up so early, although my knowledge of time zones is rather hazy!
Reply@Alif:Scientology.
Reply@Different Guest:
No – I didn`t raise this insane speculation – YOU did! I just pointed out that these babies are NOT malnurished or sickly as the tabloid reported! Got it? And there is simply NO way that you can go through an airport without presenting your passport which would have to include pictures and names of the twins! Really are you all going insane? What the hell is wrong with you? Keane you remember me of that self declaired voodoo priestess from FF forum who loves to come up with the most insane conspiracy theories (they usually include the CIA!). Hah! Or are you just trying to fill Ian`s shows while he is busy making money off Micheal Jackson`s death?
Reply@mia:
And of course those passports, pictures and names of the “twins” would have to be Knox and Vivienne Jolie-Pitt right, they couldn’t possibly be anybody else?
P.S. It wasn’t me who came up with the theory!
Reply@keane cyber queen supreme:
No they could NOT be anybody else!
ReplyBy the way the twins were just a week or so old and SLEEPING when they were first pictured so naturally they would look different 6 months later.
hey Keane hows the investigation into the person who hacked your email going…….any updates from the 5-0 ?
Reply@keane cyber queen supreme:
ReplyKaene….wow…. now you got me thinking !!! I got to run now, but back later…. in the meantime working my gray brain cells……one thought came up immediately after reading your post….(the only thing not covered in my list) Thought it too crazy to put it on there….but why ? WHY ? I cannot see any sense in such an action …… only plain simple whoring ….
@keane cyber queen supreme:
Once, there was a movie called Rent-a-kid- (1995) Plot : Harry Habert, owner of a rent office has an original idea: To rent babies from a nearby orphanage ….. interesting plot…lol
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0114268/
Reply@mia:
Why not?!
Reply@d:
Great thanks, thanks so much for asking x
Reply@Ms Agatha:
Very!
ReplyJust saw Ian on the Today Show. Good interview with Meredith. He pretty much slams La Toya, apparently she got paid a lot of money from a UK tabloid to give that interview saying MJ was murdered! God, what a family, geez
Reply@Tamara:
Good lord, and I thought she came over as quite nice on Big Brother too, cuckoo, but nice. I guess all she cares about is $$$ though. It’s such a shame, I can’t understand how people could be so superficial. Money is not more important than people, and most certainly not family!
ReplyI don’t want to hear anything from those sources. They could be the ones responsible for Michael’s death for all we know!
ReplyHere’s Ian’s interview with AOL?
Replyhttp://www.spinner.com/2009/07/14/jackson-biographer-i-set-out-to-nail-him/?icid=main|hp-laptop|dl1|link3|http%3A%2F%2Fwww.spinner.com%2F2009%2F07%2F14%2Fjackson-biographer-i-set-out-to-nail-him%2F
@backalleyknees:
ReplyIan seems a bit sinister himself, too.
@backalleyknees:
So Ian Halperin isn`t intested in the autopsy? I tell you why: because he claimed that Micheal suffered from Alpha 1 which seriously damaged his lungs! Unfortunately there was NO mention of that in the initial autopsy report! So much for Ian`s claims! Looks like the sources in his head aren`t as good as he thought! baahaha. If you want facts you should check out TMZ!
Reply@mia:Mia, I know you have a brain use it to think with. Once you clear customs you don’t have to show your passport again. The real parents hand over the babies – which could also be why they weren’t in the carriers properly – you go for your stroll and then at the hotel you hand them back. Remember they were never seen after the airport stroll. You see what you expect to see.
Reply@keane cyber queen supreme:I wish, just up very late.
Reply@keane cyber queen supreme:She has to now, Michael isn’t around to support her now. According to what I’ve read the siblings are not mentioned in the trust.
Reply@Different Guest:
You should mind your own brain as you certainly don`t seem to use it lately! Keep spinning your conspiracy stories all you want – maybe one day you will surpass Keane and Ian if you only try hard enough! Bwahaha!
Reply@Different Guest:
Replydoes anyone not see how utterly ridiculous that would be ? 2 of THE highest profile people in the world pretending they had twins….then what happens ? Do the twins have a mysterious accident ? The commentors on here have lost it…….i mean really lost it.
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/story/28816321/the_great_american_bubble_machine/print
Reply@d:Not really, think about the money involved. And if someone was pregnant and lost that pregnancy due to drug use – not a good career move. Unfortunately it is possible to acquire children by less than legal means and if you keep the children under wraps for a certain length of time – it does become difficult to age them. If you have the birth certificates and passports substituting infants really wouldn’t be that hard. Sleeping babies tend to all look alike – and again you see what you expect to see. How many customs officials are going to look closely at a passport photo of an infant. Because the children were born outside the United States they would have to get passports early on.
ReplyRemember that Loretta Young passed off her biological child as her “adopted” daughter until shortly before her death. If she chose to say nothing that secret would have gone to her grave.
@mia:
ReplyOk mia – I read the article you posted. So? Color me not surpised.
@d:
I quite agree with you, I think the idea is completely mental. That does not however mean to say it could not be true. The “biggest deception since Rock Hudson and Doris Day” – what is that? The references to the story about the jewels thieves, what was the relevance of that? All the refs to Ange’s fear and anxiety, the “no $14 million pictures here….half a pack of smokes…awash with screamers”, the “unique barcodes”, the “enterprise that is unique but redundant”. And one of the posts said something about gelatin, which someone mentioned might relate to the brand name “Knox”. Hmm…..
ReplyHi Keane – well your London heatwave has travelled across the world to SF – it is a horrible 85 degrees in the usually cool city and the temperature is still rising – that explains my headache and bad mood at least! Dang, I hate hot weather (anything over 70 is hot as far as I am concerned!)
Reply@mia:
I’m still interested to hear why the babies pictured at the Japanese airport categorically have to be the children of Brad and Ange. You were so absolutely certain of it in your previous post. Please do explain to us why that is.
Reply@Keane Cyber Queen Supreme:
Well I could be mean and say because of their oversized lips and heads. Something they clearly have inherited from their parents. Which doesn`t change the fact that they are really cute – just that it would be really hard to find babies like them!
Reply@Different Guest:
ReplyHi Different Guest – do you mean that MJ supported his entire family? Didnt LaToya have her own career? I thought she was also some kind of singer/dancer like MJ?
To All: In addition to Palin and Brangelina bashing, my next favorite is OctoMom! Well, I just read an extremely disturbing report about one of her sons. Apparently, the child has quite a temper and went after his grandma Angela with a steak knife. Grandma had to hide in the bedroom for about 10 minutes and then had to run out of the house with the child chasing her with the knife – actually making thrusts at trying to stick her! OctoMom does not believe in discipling her children so she just lets him do this. It seems the same child has also kicked another of the children (aged 2) in the head. Someone needs to call child protective services into that house and get psychological help for that boy or a disaster is looming ahead. (I dont know how to post the article but it is found on examiner.com for the 7/13/9 SF Examiner paper.)
Replyi am sorry guys and i really really don’t want to be mean as i love kids and have two sons, but the picture at the airport of peewee and his son really stunned me as the kids reminded me of peewee in benjamin button and brads facial shape as and eldery man. puffy cheeks and the look of the kid really had me worried as i have not seen many kids with that kind of face. they could have been real life rubber dolls they use in school but i know that is not so. i hope these kids are alright. my cousin says she saw a photo of sh and z where shi has z by the hair and it looked like jolie could not control them. don’t ask me where as she said somewhere on the internet. unfortunately i think only if these two trainwrecks part co. we would stop having to hear and see them every day and that the real actors will get a chance to have the rolls and movies that is due to them. jmo
Reply@mia:
That would definitely stand up in court Mia, congrats! Brad though has neither oversized lips or head – how are you categorically deciding he is the natural father of the twins may I ask, their predilection for headwear? Mia, I think you could be a valuable tool in all future parentage disputes. No baby will ever need to be DNA-tested again, the courts can just ask you which prospective father they most resemble and the job’s a good’un! You could make a fortune!
Reply@ladybert62:I don’t think she’s done much in recent years. I think Michael supported quite a few members of his family.
Reply@ladybert62:It’s been reported that several of the older children are autistic. It’s a good thing he went after Grandma instead of one of the babies.
ReplyI was just thinking about the biggest fraud since Rock Hudson and Doris Day. Most people immediately think about Rock being gay and forget that Doris’ image as the virginal girl next door was also a fraud. Like Debbie Reynolds she ran into financial problems due to one of her husbands, including obviously flawed diamonds that he paid a fortune for.
ReplyDoes that lower lip remind you of someone?
http://www.celebitchy.com/33128/photos_of_brad_pitt_and_angelina_jolies_twins_knox_and_vivienne_in_japan/spl75718_010/
like mother like daughter (big eyes and big lips):
Replyhttp://www.celebitchy.com/33128/photos_of_brad_pitt_and_angelina_jolies_twins_knox_and_vivienne_in_japan/spl75718_014/
@Different Guest:
ReplyI predict that they are also on his mini-hit-list once he gets grandma out of the way (she tries to discipline so I guess he wants to “off” her and then he will go for the helpless ones!) Sick.
@Different Guest:
Could be relevant, but I think it probably relates more to the fairytale romance/perfect family element. Might be something in that though.
I meant to say as well, as for Shiloh looking like Jon Voight I really don’t think that means anything untoward about her parentage. My brother and I both look more like our Grandad than our mum does and there was nothing untoward going on there! My nan and grandad both had dominant genes – dark colouring etc – and our mum looks more like an equal split between them. My brother and I though are both the spitting image of my grandad and my brother looked like him literally from birth. Genes can play out in funny ways. If Shiloh looks like Voight I think it is more than likely just because he has very dominant genes.
Reply@Keane Cyber Queen Supreme:AJ before the plastic surgery looked very much like Voight (one reason for the surgeries, perhaps.)
Reply@keane cyber queen supreme:
Replybb14. I don’t understand what is the biggest deception since Rock Hudson and Doris Day, did I miss something?
@benjaminbutton14:
ReplyYou and me both BB14 – I have given up asking what they are talking about – some rumor.
@ladybert62:It’s from one of SR’s posts I think Kate referenced it further up this thread. I’m thinking if we reversed the genders in this case AJ for Rock, Pitt for DD. AJ and Rock the sexuality issues, for DD and BP maybe financial issues. They really picked a bad time to be aquiring real estate – how much money has Pitt lost due to his association with AJ.
Reply@benjaminbutton14:
No not at all, I think we all missed something to be honest a while back and didn’t realise it. Kate just happened to mention this crazy rumour she had heard (and I still don’t know where from) which I also thought when she told me about it was totally ridiculous. Then all these bits of SR’s posts kept coming back to me, mysteries that we had never quite got to the bottom of, bits of the poem that we had never really understood and things started to fall into place. It also tied in with something I had thought at the time which I never actually said, but that I wasn’t sure of as it didn’t fit in with the other things that were being said. Now it kind of does. There is still an element or two that I am not sure about but I understand more of what SR’s posts were getting at now I think. Whether it’s true or not is another matter entirely! It most certainly would be the “biggest deception since Rock Hudson and Doris Day” if it were. I’m not going to say what I’m thinking about though, just think about that diamond thief post, the one that said “no $14 million pics here…half a pack of smokes…awash with screamers” and the one that included the “biggest deception since RH and DD” and draw your own conclusions!
Reply@Different Guest:
Ah yes, the real estate losses, I forgot about those…
Reply@Keane Cyber Queen Supreme:
ReplyThanks for sharing! Clear as mud.
@Keane Cyber Queen Supreme:Not just the real estate, but the lifestyle costs. The constant travel, hotel bills, nannies etc it adds up. While they may not be in Michael Jackson territory yet they are blowing through the cash.
Reply@Different Guest:
Defo, another good point.
A few more hints and tips as to what we’re talking about for everyone else:
In the People spread the “twins” looked significantly different. They were noticeably different sizes. They have only been seen once since, even though we see the older kids all the time. That photo opp only seemed to happen after major speculation in the media that something was up with them, so they were wheeled out. But they were wheeled out at long distance, in papuses, facing Brad and Ange and both wearing headgear (a cap and a hood respectively). I thought it was an odd way to showcase the babies but at the time I thought it was because it was the only way Brad and Ange could hold the babies and look like they were single-handedly caring for the other children at the same time. Now I think it might be a different reason. Brad, when discussing the babies and the “6 kids” in both TV and print interviews, has been noticeably uncomfortable. The journo who conducted the Rolling Stone interview said he seemed shifty and ill at ease the whole time in fact. Brad has been noticeably hitting the bottle lately and has lost the totally composed and professional demeanour he has had in all previous public appearances up until recently. What underlies that? Then think about SR posts. Think about Ange and her team’s insistent presence here. Then think about some of those wild stories that were fed to Ian, many of which sounded highly implausible, were extremely incendiary and distracted everyone from all previous stories. Then think about what Section 9 always says to Ian when he thinks he is being played: “follow the money”. Then think about what “the biggest deception since Rock Hudson and Doris Day” might refer to. I dont know myself exactly what SR meant by that, but the wild rumour Kate mentioned to me is one possibility. And if that is what he meant, I also have no idea whether it is true or not. But I think that that is what all those riddles were getting at. Just my opinion!
Reply@Keane Cyber Queen Supreme:
ReplyThanks Keane – that was helpful – not. But thanks for taking the time to type it and explain. You keep mentioning “the wild rumor Kate mentioned to me is one possibility.” I have asked before what that rumor was – you said, unlike Ian, posters can get sued so you didnt want to explicity state it . Trying to understand your hidden message is like trying to look at a room through a keyhole with the key (rumor which you and Kate seem to have) still in the hole: so its futile for me to try and see into that room. The entire subject is now dropped as far as I am concerned. Peace.
baby slings are meant to face inwards until about se7en months.
Replybabies really should have their heads covered.
Replynon identical twins can look as different as normal siblings can.
Replythere are often weight and size differences in twins.
Reply@ladybert62:
ReplyDoes your office building have AC? Its over 100 in the Sac. Valley today and the hot air breeze is blowing towards the city. I am not a fan of days like today.
@backalleyknees:
ReplyHI Knees: Yes it is extremely warm in SF – the building does indeed have air conditioning (I actually sit in a room that was once a computer center so it is very cold all the time in the room – all the other ee’s at the firm dont even want to come into my office because it is always so cold). It is over 90 degrees outside and I am dreading the ride home on MUNI (the public at its stinking best) and then the hot house – gads, maybe I will just spend the night here! I can not imagine living or working anywhere near Sac – it is always so hot there! I absolutely hate hot weather and am always cranky and at my worst during it – how about you?
@ladybert62:Ladybert, if you look back I think I discerned what the rumor was.
Reply@ladybert62:
Replyughhgh, its over 90 already? There is nothing worse than being in the city when its that hot. That town was not made for these temperatures. I grew up here so I am somewhat used to it…but I always turn super cranky, crabby, and snappy when its this hot. I get horrible headaches. Usually I pay to see a movie and sit in there with a sweater for a couple of hours during the hottest time of the day (after work), but tonight I have a concert that’s outside…its not going to be pretty. I haven’t been on the Muni in a long time, but it is better than the bus right?
@ladybert62:
Yep I think between DG’s posts and mine it has been made pretty explicit. Note in particular DG’s post about a film on renting chlldren. I’m not going to say what it is for the aforementioned reasons and because I have no idea whether it is true or not or whether I am on the right track with my guesses about SR’s posts or not at all. People need to make up their own minds based on the bits that I am referring to and Brange’s public behvaiour. These are the things that are all adding up in my mind right now, but whether they add up to what I am thinking about is another matter entirely. Time will surely tell though.
Reply@ladybert62:
ReplyDid you finish your Ariana Franklin novels? Is it worth reading the second one after “Mistress”? I have another recommendation for you. It isn’t actual history and its a book that I wouldn’t normally read, but I LOVED it and can’t wait for the second part of the trilogy. It is by Patrick Rothfuss called “The Name of the Wind”. It is a fantasy book (and I am not a fan of fantasy), but I think you might really enjoy it. I couldn’t put it down. My bookclub buddy gave it to me and we are both huge historical fiction/based on true events people. Not sure if its on Kindle.
@ladybert62:Did you post that you read mysteries? Did you ever read any of Elizabeth Linnington under the pseudonym Dell Shannon? I remember the end of the book where it turns out that a child who is an heir to a fortune really isn’t the child because the real child had a very large port wine birth mark on his torso. If I remember the rest of the story correctly, there was a custody battle going on the Dad hired someone to kill the mother and grab the boy only they killed both of them and then the Dad died, so they kidnapped a child and lived off the proceeds of the inheritance until from the family’s past appeared and realized the boy was not the son.
Reply@ladybert62:
ReplyThere is a rumor they borrowed the babies, that they are not their kids. Let me say again, that is a rumor, and I do not know who started that rumor, but it is circulating around town. It could be another another insider for all we know that started it. I personally do not believe it. It would be impossible to pull that off.But whoever it is says that the twins do not live with either of them, they just borrow them when needed. That the twins do not belong to either of them. Sounds fabricated to me. Another Me, well or whoever the other one was, the salty drink. I think one of these three were the same, so there were really only two, but I have forgotten. I tried to go back and read but it was to much trouble, they contradicted each other all over the place though.
@d:
LadyB – actually just look at the post of d’s that I am replying to and DG’s post about renting children and everything we have said about money. It is not too difficult to figure out! Got to go all, catch you soon!x
Reply@Different Guest:
ReplyAlmost sounds like The Changeling, now reading that script could give an unbalanced person some ideas. lol IF I believed any of this, I don’t , but ..just sayin.
@Keane Cyber Queen Supreme:I didn’t post about renting children, I posted about a mystery where a baby was kidnapped by a couple who also had a baby. You see what you want to see.
Reply@Different Guest:
ReplyOK I looked back to your comment. The one that speculated that pops is not hapless but is strange brother JH? Is that it?
@Different Guest:
Replywhat’s the name of the book? that sounds like a great read.
@Kate:Or an unbalanced person who suffered a miscarriage. I hadn’t thought about Changeling, when would she have read that script?
ReplyIAN, great interview this morning. Thought you made some excellent points. Finally! Book is hitting the shelves!
Reply@Keane Cyber Queen Supreme:
Well keane I can tell you how Ian`s buttfriend Sugar Ray come up with this drivel: he pulled it right out his ass! Seriously you are starting to sound totally insane! Has your hatred for Jolie really cost you your last brain cells? Noone – no matter how much you despise this person – is worth losing your sense of reality!
By the way: Pitt started to drink more when he was filming “inglorious Basterds” and went out drinking with his costars. Well Tarentino is known to stay out late! There you go. There is a sane explanation for everything!
Reply@Kate:
I don’t think any of the plants offered that explanation. Me/Well was the same person and said the thing about “slow swimmers”. Margarita said something else entirely, she was supposed to sound like Jen but didn’t. Neither of them ever mentioned that rumour. The first I ever heard of such a crazy idea was when you mentioned it. I thought it was the most ridiculous thing I had ever heard too but then it tied in with something else I thought a while back and could never really understand. Which is what reminded me of all of those bits of SR’s posts. I will e-mail you to explain and you can tell me what you think. Again, could still be complete rubbish, but it just made sense of part of that period of SR’s and Ian’s posts to me that made no sense at all at the time so I dropped them and forgot about it. But there must have been some meaning behind it. That’s all I’m thinking of really, what those posts were getting at.
Reply@Kate:
ReplyActually I think it makes perfect sense. They rented kids and said they were their own – (this is only my opinion and like everything I say do or think about anything at any time about anybody in the past, present or futurem, alive or dead, is always just my opinion for entertainment value to myself) – I am not shocked or even surprised – makes sense. Maybe she was pregnant with twins and miscarried but didnt want to admit due to hugh money losses and possible lawsuits, embarrassment. It would be more shocking to america if strange brother was pops rather than hapless.
@mia:
Just like the way you judge paternity my friend – you are an authority on everything!
Reply@keane cyber queen supreme:
ReplyTaTa ! lol
@Different Guest:
Sorry DG it was Ms Agatha who wrote that post, my mistake. Night all!x
Reply@Different Guest:
ReplyI would guess she would have read it sometime in early 2007 , or summer, around the time they were rumored to be splitting and he was trying to take Shiloh. Wonder if that is when he found out he was not daddy? (if that is true, and he confronted James, Shhhloh) she donned a fake belly for AMH, she did say she uses her movies for therapy. lol
@Keane Cyber Queen Supreme:
ReplyMargarita is the one that said he was going to take Zahara , prearanged agreement and move to France , to the Chateau . She claimed he was in love with a outsider. I think she was a nut just making crap up. Me/well sounds like the same insider that has been blabbing over at FF. that they ran off. lol they had a duel of the insiders. They think we are crazy here, you should read some of the conspiracy theories over there, very creative. Hey I am not insulting them either, bright ladies, except the ones who make up bad things about the kids, I don’t dig that.
@Kate:So was Holly actually pregnant?
Reply@Keane Cyber Queen Supreme:
ReplyIt was me who sent you lik about movie….interesting plot
To HariKari Girl: We have not heard from you in a couple of days – and I have been thinking about you. In case you are just reading and not posting, how about just a little “howdy” so we know you are feeling better! Peace to you in case you decide not to respond.
ReplySo what exactly was Changelling about? A woman who had a son and “lost him” and then someone else gave her a replacement son which she rejected because it was not her real son?
Reply@mia:
ReplyMia the only thing that makes me think those kids are Brads are the duh look and that is the truth, you just can not fake that. Knozx looks like Brad to me.
@ladybert62:
Replysorry to be a brat, but did you get my message about the books (I get way too excited around other people that like books…there aren’t a whole lot of us)?
@ladybert62:
ReplyYes, I did not see it though, but that is what the story is about. The cops try to pass the boy off as hers, she takes him home only to realize he is not her son. Stupid story. I think I would be able to tell before I took mine home. She gives him a bath and something gives it away. I have forgotten what the mark was, scar, circumsized maybe.
AJ driving around L.A. yesterday, supposedly her twins birthday ….spending part of the day in her deceased mother’s hotel apartment …. what is wrong with that picture ?
Reply@ladybert62:I think it was about a real case in L.A. in the thirties involving a serial killer who was killing young boys. Her son was a victim and the corrupt police dept tried to foist another kid off on her to keep it quiet.
I’m not sure I think the kids would just be borrowed when the necessity arose, they are going to get older and it would be very unusal to never see them. Once they start talking you’d be toast. I can however see using other people’s children to buy time until you can complete a transaction for purchasing other children of the appropriate age/health.
Reply@ladybert62:
ReplyShe looked genuinely pregnant to me. IDK bbl
@backalleyknees:
ReplyHI Knees – I didnt see it! Sorry – what did it say?
@ladybert62:
Replybackalleyknees said on July 14th, 2009 at 4:41 pm
@ladybert62:
Did you finish your Ariana Franklin novels? Is it worth reading the second one after “Mistress”? I have another recommendation for you. It isn’t actual history and its a book that I wouldn’t normally read, but I LOVED it and can’t wait for the second part of the trilogy. It is by Patrick Rothfuss called “The Name of the Wind”. It is a fantasy book (and I am not a fan of fantasy), but I think you might really enjoy it. I couldn’t put it down. My bookclub buddy gave it to me and we are both huge historical fiction/based on true events people. Not sure if its on Kindle.
And DG said:
Did you post that you read mysteries? Did you ever read any of Elizabeth Linnington under the pseudonym Dell Shannon? I remember the end of the book where it turns out that a child who is an heir to a fortune really isn’t the child because the real child had a very large port wine birth mark on his torso. If I remember the rest of the story correctly, there was a custody battle going on the Dad hired someone to kill the mother and grab the boy only they killed both of them and then the Dad died, so they kidnapped a child and lived off the proceeds of the inheritance until from the family’s past appeared and realized the boy was not the son.
@Ms Agatha:
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ReplyThat sounds bizarre and – creepy – was it also her mother’s birthday? Maybe she was looking for souvenirs? Maybe she was praying and trying to channel her cry for “help” to her mom! Maybe she thinks she is her mom! Who knows (”only the shadow knows”) what goes on in that head of hers! I am just thankful she is not my mom (and my apologies to you mom and all the other relatives that I thought were crazy when I was growing up – HA! I didnt know what “crazy” meant until I met Hollywood crazies (excepting HariKari Girl who I think is the exception to the Hollywood Rule and is indeed not crazy
@ladybert62:For me bizarre and creepy sums up Ms. AJ.
Reply@Kate:when did she start looking fake pregnant? Before or at Cannes? The photos at Cannes did not look right to me. All the people I’ve known who had twins did not carry themselves the way she was. Cannes is mid-May correct?
@backalleyknees:
Hi Knees – yes I read the second Ariana Franklin book (whose name I cannot recall right now since I have also read t hree other books since then) but while the first book was excellent – the second book was totally unbelieveable to me (this was not just my opinion as I looked up reviews of the book). The Mistress of the Art of Death was excellent, the story was believeable and the characters were fully drawn out. The second book which concentrated on Eleanor of Acquaitane supposedly poisoning the alleged mistress of King Henry II was ridiculous and I had to force myself to finish it. I did not believe any of the story, the plot was ridiculous and it was a silly characteriztion of Eleanor of Acquaitaine – I have the third book but I have not started it yet as I am waiting for the bad taste of the second one to go away.
I will look up the book you mentioned (The Name of the Wind?) but I am also not a fan of historical fantasy – give be facts and entwine the facts with a story and then I will probably like it. But I will see if it is on Kindle. Like I said I read a lot and I have read at least three books since we last talked – and of course my mind goes blank right now. One was Jonathan Kellermans’ latest about a murder in Hollywood (Called True Detectives: A Novel – I think). Current one is Lee Child’s Gone Tomorrow.
Reply@Different Guest:
ReplyI thought she started looking funky when they were at the Independent Spirit awards and it was the first time she wore tight enough clothes to tell her pregnancy. I just remember looking at her bump and thinking, damn. She is way more than 4months along with that size tummy. I showed it to my friend who had had twins and she even said it didn’t look normal (and she likes AJ). That bump just made me raise my eyebrows. SHe didn’t look the same as she did with Shiloh. She actually looked pregnant with Shi. Her body movements were much different the second time around (and I realize it would be with two babies in there) but…it was just off.
@ladybert62:
ReplyHahaha…. First, I don’t think the twins birthday was yesterday , either the kids were born earlier ( as previously reported) or now we are not even sure if the twins, who have been paraded in front of us, are actually for real or not. Second, we ,however, know for sure, that there so-called mother spent 4 hrs in an hotel were her deceased mother used to live. Depression, crying for help ? Maybe so…. but a mother would spent the BD with her kids, unless of course she has an agreement with the father, that they split the day between the two of them, since they are no longer together……
@backalleyknees:
ReplyTo continue – I have not heard of ELiz Linnington aka Dell Shannon but will also look her up. Yes, I love mysteries!
@ladybert62:
It actually isn’t historical fantasy. It really doesn’t have anything to do with history. But it has a really good story and it has that historical feel, there isn’t anything truly historical about it. I would absolutely check it out though.
thanks for the advice re: the second Arianna Franklin book. that’s good to know. She wrote another called “City of Shadows” that deals with Germany post WW2 and the Russian occupation of Berlin, tied together with the Romanovs and Anastacia. I quite liked it. I was kind of sad for myself when they found the second grave with the missing Tsarovitch and his sister because it gave authors a good mystery to spin off of. Another great book/mystery is The Kitchen Boy by Bob Alexander, also dealing with the last days of The Romnovs. I really like Russian History, studied it in College.
Reply@ladybert62:
ReplyP.S. …..unless of course she is so bold to set up one of her infamous ‘ meetings ‘ in that particular hotel, at that particular day…..
@ladybert62:Her books are old. She died suddenly in the late 80’s. E. Linnington had several pen names, Dell Shannon and Lesley Egan – she wrote 4 different series. I’ve always liked series books, I like seeing how characters grow and change over time.
ReplyBTW have you been watching the Poirot/Miss Marple on PBS on Sunday nights?
@backalleyknees:Aren’t the independent spirit awards around the same time as the Oscars?
Reply@backalleyknees:
ReplyTHat is the one that I have but have not yet read – maybe I will do so this weekend if you say it is good.
@ladybert62:
I’m with ladybert – Hi HKG I hope you are doing ok. I forgot to look back to see if Ian was able to delete your post for you, hope he was but just remember you are among cyber friends here (except the one who asked you your identity in real life – was it Mia? I’m not sure if there is online etiquette but there should be – I think it is not just rude but totally unacceptable to ask a poster to give their personal info. on a blog).
Reply@Different Guest:
ReplyDear Different Guest – she must be an English writer. Why do they do that in England? It drives me crazy that the same person can have all these different author names – it seems when they change centuries or protoganists, the author changes their name? Is there a legal or publishing reason for it in England? It drives me crazy because I find someone I like (even though they are ususally dead by the time I find them) and t hen they disappear and then it isnt until coincidence that I discover they have written many other books but under a different name!
@Ms Agatha:
ReplyOh no – and in that particular room also? Oh no, say it isnt so Ms. Agatha! That is tooooo creeeeepy to me.
@Different Guest:
ReplyNo I have not been watching any television lately – just been reading. Is this a new Poirot and/or a new Marple? I Like him better than her.
@backalleyknees:
ReplyOh yes – Russian history is extremely fascinating to me also. I am in love with Peter the Great! He was truly Great. I have read much about the Romanovs and their sad sad lives (but the Russians had it much worse ladybert so direct your sympathy to the proper quarters!) Fascinating history. Did you read the Michener book so long ago which does the entire Russian history? A quickie but satisfying – ha ha
@ladybert62:No, she was an American. I think it was done at the publisher’s behest, they didn’t want the consumer to get confused. Although I believe two of the series are written under E. Linnington. The books are all set in the L.A. area. If you want really funny mysteries read Charlotte MacLeod who also wrote under the name Ailsa Craig – they are a riot.
Reply@ladybert62:
ReplyI dunno…. only know for sure same exact hotel…. but same room ? Now THAT would call for intervention…
@Ms Agatha:
ReplyYou made me laugh out loud for the first time today! You get a gold star as I needed that!
@Different Guest:
ReplyOh goody -more new authors to try! I will look them up tonight on Kindle. Thank you!
@ladybert62:
ReplyIt’s been my pleasure Lady ! lol
@ladybert62:
Reply….. Mr Beckham is too married ( so he claims) and refuses to do ad with AJ … the man has standards ! lol
@Keane Cyber Queen Supreme:
…thinking of diamond theft post : Remember them endorsing diamond ban ? Maybe they endorsing one thing but doing another ? We know she has quite a collection of glitz which she wears at G Globe/Oscars etc.
Same with the kids. They endorsing ban on abuse of children in 3rd world countries ….maybe they preaching one thing and doing another ? Maybe the family is far from being one = Just as RH and DD were not what they made people to believe…… just assuming here
http://anythinghollywood.com/2009/06/brad-pitt-and-angelina-jolie-endorse-diamond-ban/
ReplyWHAT KIND OF QUESTION IS THAT? HE SHOULD BE PUT SOMEPLACE WHERE NO ONE NOWS OR ELSE THE NEXT MICHEAL JACKSON STORY WILL BE ABOUT HOW HIS BODDY WAS STOLEN!!!!! AND AFTER ALL THAT JOE DID TO MICHEAL,NOT ALLOWING HIM TO HAVE A CHILDHOOD AND EVERY THING I THINK THAT HE SHOULD JUST STAY OUT OF WHERE TO BURY HIM!!!!!! I SAY BUG OFF JOE JACKSON!!!
Reply@Keane Cyber Queen Supreme:
ReplyP.S….particular if 2 of the ‘family’ do not live them…. see my movie link
@Ms Agatha:
Yeah, they support a ban or Marange diamonds how many years after the movie Blood Diamonds? Can anyone say distraction…as in those used by magicians.
And you know, despite how crazy the idea of renting kids is, I think it could be done, 1) money talks, so birth records/death certificates/passports could all be created using false names, and 2) if someone you paid off threatens to go public or DOES go public, you just say “what a ridiculous idea” and “we’re chased by paparazzi nonstop, how could we fake anything?” even though faking is what actors do for a living to a certain extent. They create an alternate reality…
Reply@too curious:
HKG, this is not to slam your industry/profession, just how I see things. And I love to be swept away into another world by a good movie or play! (Or book, I’m a big mystery reader, too).
Reply@too curious:
Reply…particular if you talk ” part time adoption ” (versus rent) …. you give them back to ‘ orphanage’ when you don’t need them, and ‘ take-out’ when needed…..
Keane:
Thursday, July 23rd is Inglourious Basterds UK Premiere in London …. please keep us posted what’s going down there….expect your detailed report from the front ! lol : )
Reply@Keane Cyber Queen Supreme:
ReplyAlso, do you remember Cindi Guagenti , BP long time rep suddenly quitting ? I am thinking, she may run because she didn’t want to have anything to do with it…….it would have cost her her reputation
Jackson family ‘confronted’ pop star over drug use
1 hour ago
LONDON (AFP) — Michael Jackson’s family confronted the pop legend about his drug use in an emotional intervention before his death, his brother Tito said in comments published by a British newspaper.
Alarmed at reports Jackson was addicted to prescription drugs, Tito said he and his brothers and sisters conducted a military-style raid on the King of Pop’s Neverland ranch.
Tito said Jackson “did everything in his power to make sure we didn’t know” about his suspected drug use, but as the number of reports increased, so too the Jackson family’s fears for his health.
“We had to act. It was me, my sisters Janet, Rebbie and La Toya and my brothers Jackie and Randy,” he told the Daily Mirror in an interview.
“We burst right into the house and he was surprised to see us to say the least. We went into one of his private rooms and had a discussion with him. Some of us were crying.”
Jackson, one of the world’s most popular entertainers, died on June 25. The singer was 50.
Investigators are scrutinising the possible role of drugs in his death, after he suffered an apparent cardiac arrest at his home in Los Angeles.
“We kept asking him if it was true what we had heard that he was using drugs. He kept denying it. He said we were over-reacting,” Tito said.
“We also spoke to a doctor and he assured us it was not the situation. He said he was there to make sure Michael was healthy.”
The Daily Mail does not say when the intervention occurred.
Tito said they tried again to confront Jackson about his perceived drug problem, but were kept at bay by the pop star’s security team.
“After that occasion, we tried many times but his team of people just kept shutting us out, they would not let us close. They literally shut us out.”
http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5jnIhvDlM-5uaNYm9abUtTvPVRACg
ReplyDr. Murray nearly charged before for Malpractice when patient died of a botched surgery.
Klein also under investigation; 5 doctors in total are.
http://x17online.com/celebrities/michael_jackson/dr_klein_subpoenaed_for_michaels_medical_records-07142009.php
The pop legend – who died of a suspected cardiac arrest last month aged 50 – confided in 11-year-old Paris about his fears just one month before his shock passing, reportedly saying: “I’m going to die soon… someone wants me dead.”
http://www.voxy.co.nz/entertainment/michael-jackson-told-his-daughter-he-was-convinced-he-was-going-be-murdered/1062/18399
Reply@ladybert62:
Replybb14. You can say that again
@Ms Agatha:
Pitt answered your question why he let go of Ciny by stating that even the best rep wasn`t able to prevent on single negative tabloid story! He said that he was tired of being confronted with the nasty rumors (through his rep) on a daily basis! And guess what? He was right!
Reply@Ms Agatha:
Yeah Beckham`s high standards led him to cheat on his wife multiple times! Great hm?
Reply@mia:
I see….. he let Cindi Guagenti go, because he was sick of negative tabloid stories ? HaHaHaHaHa…. They certainly have stopped since……..great job !
@mia:
EVEN Beckham – who has been a around the block – is putting some distance between himself and AJ – the man still has some standard left in him ……. AJ is just not up to par ….poor thing
Reply@Ms Agatha:
Hm Beckham praised both Jolie and Pitt in the same statement. And he NEVER did a sexy underwaer photo shout with anyone but his wife. Guess she is very jelous! And rightfully so!
Again you didn`t get what I said hm? When an actor has a rep the tabloid editors usually are trying to contact him /her before they publish a story – and if only for no other reason than to let him add the infamous words “not true” to their story in order to prevent being sued! And guess what whom the rep then contacts to verify a rumor? The actor! Great hm? THAT IS WHAT I MEANT! Clear now?
ReplyBy the way the tabloid stories won`t stop as long as people are interested in Brangelina! And the fact that even people who hate them can`t stop mentioning them gives them right!
@mia:
Thank you Mia, you never fail to educate ….. thanks for the intellectual sanitary landfill
Reply@mia:
in my opinion, it’s not just because jolie’ s label as homewrecking ‘harlot’. I think this is as well a bussines decision. The Beckham brand is seemingly way too expensive compared to “the brange” brand. Maybe because brange is overexposed for their personal lives details. So, doing this ad with jolie could be a disaster / downgrade for becks, where in the other side is an upgrade for jolie. St. John stop doing it, Armani wouldn’t do it, Beckham wouldn’t do it. Jolie, definetely would.
Reply@ladybert62:It’s a new actress playing Miss Marple. David Suchet as Poirot
ReplyHi Ms. Agatha. Apology is accepted. No problem. Hey how are Tommy and Tuppence? I like them both.
Reply@beatrix:
Well you obviously have NO idea just how overexposed the Beckhams were for years in GB! And much more for their personal lives (eg. Beckham`s affairs, marriage troubles,…) than for their prefessional one!
Reply@Keane Cyber Queen Supreme:
Replybut you’re assuming that everything SR posted meant something……thats a pretty big leap. What that he’s posted has come true ?
@Ms Agatha:
ReplyLOL – more like AJ’s reputation precedes her and Victoria has put her foot down and said NO WAY! LOL She wears the pants in that family and like any smart wife she won’t let her hubby anywhere near the Evil Ms.Jolie.
@Tamara:
Well she counldn`t prevent David from cheaing on her! So much for wearing the pants! Or maybe THAT is the problem in their relationship! Ha!
Reply@Ms Agatha:
Here, here! Mia is the definitive authority on everything media-related, she knows it all! I’m convinced she is some kind of high profile, high powered media executive who has been working in the industry for decades and has seen and knows it all. (Not to mention her unique gift for determining the parentage of babies on the basis of who she thinks they most look like – she’s a genius!). So tell me Mia, where do you get all your authoritative insight from? Are you a seasoned journalist, agent, PR Exec, Film/TV production professional or other?
Reply@Ms Agatha:
That is another great point. How very interesting!
Reply@Tamara:
Don’t think the Beckhams are together any more. Ian said he was rumoured to currently be seeing someone much younger. I think his exit from the ads with Jolie must be for another reason, possibly the same reason HC suddenly had to pull out of her interview with her due to a sudden need for elbow surgery. Could it be foreknowledge of an impending storm by any chance? The rats seem to be abandoning the sinking ship in their droves right now…
Reply@Ms Agatha:
I might show up and ask BP for an autograph to Keane and the ladies of IUC. See if he flinches!
Reply@keane cyber queen supreme:
ReplyThat would be swell ….. lol
@Tamara:
ReplyYou are so right….. from now on, I think EVERY wife is going to kick her to the curve…… lol
@beatrix:
I would say brand Brange is bigger than brand Becks right now. They have the biggest celeb brand in the world, except for maybe MJ right now! The merger of the brands would have been a good move for them both. Clearly Becks’ people were worried about something though. Could be anything though, maybe just the homewrecking angle….
Reply@Tamara:
ReplyHi Tamara – and I for one would not want to cross Mrs. Hunky Beckham – she looks to me like she has got claws and I think she would go public with anything she knows about evil Ms. Jolie and hapless Mr. Pitt if hunky was tampered with by evil!
@beatrix:
LOL… hehe…. glad you asked… we are having a jolly good time here over some cups of tea…knitting away lol
Reply@keane cyber queen supreme:
Yeah we already discussed that subject with Hilary haven`t we? I know YOU would break your ellbow just to escape from a meeting that YOU and YOUR handlers set up before! Ha! That makes sense. Come on Keane. You should be smarter than that! Were is your sense of reality?
Reply@keane cyber queen supreme:
The Becks may be afraid that bad press is contagious like the pestilence …….. you don’t want to be even mentioned in the same sentence …. they had to escaped the embrace of the TC%KH for similar reasons…plus HW knows what’s there to come…
Reply@keane cyber queen supreme:
Replythe beckhams were just in the Seychelles celebrating their wedding anniversay…..looked pretty cozy in pics
«Michael Jackson camp denies health problems»
article on dec. 23 2008 (Reuters):
http://www.reuters.com/article/entertainmentNews/idUSTRE4BM03920081223
Vous aviez malheureusement raison, Mr Halperin…
Reply@keane cyber queen supreme:
I think she likes to entertain us with sophomoric inklings without shimmer but with knowledge of the thought of lack lol
ReplyWith the upcoming opening of IB on horizon, the Inglourious Basterds publicity machine is just now beginning to gear up.
http://nymag.com/daily/entertainment/2009/07/qt_gq.html
http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20291204,00.html
Reply@mia:
ReplyLOL Yes, that must be the problem haha! Really though, I do think VB put the kabosh on any AJ collaboration, don’t you? She holds onto him pretty tight – can’t imagine she’d willingly allow him to do a sexy photo shoot with AJ. Besides Mrs Hunky does the modelling with her hubby, why would she give that over to AJ?
Does anyone else think it’s a bit of a comedown for the Brange to be relegated to a small mention on the cover: The Twins Turn One, instead of the lead story? The lead is Jon Gosselin and his new gf. Seriously since when does Jon Gosselin rate the number one story on the cover of People over the twins 1st b-day? The Curious Case of the Brange, wonder if there are recent photos of the twins inside, the cover pic is the one they did for the birth. Hmmmmmm PS Saw the post on Perez this morning.
Replymia. i must say you are really like a pittbull that once it has something in its mouth it will not let go, until someone puts a finger where it should not be. but i give you a+ for being tenacious and tedious in the defence of the jolie/tits. they should really put you in the vacant position of cindy as she would never be able to go down with a sinking ship but you have what it take. whether it is this year or 3 years down the line you will defend and praise these two morons, for that i must give you credit no matter how wrong. i even find your poet amusing and readable so keep the flag flying for the jolietits. to those of you that enjoy reading have you ever read davis gemmel i started reaading as my sons started buying his books and although it is fantasy fiction i found it enjoyable and since then have read most of his books. it is rainy and very wet and cold in cape town sa and really miserable weather but i suppose we must be gratefull for the rain. well enjoy your evening and keep going mia.
Reply@mia:
Sweetheart, your knowledge of medicine is impeccable as your knowledge of paternity testing. Were you aware that when people fracture their elbow it normally cannot be operated on for a couple of weeks until the swelling goes down? HC must have some sort of miracle elbow. Or maybe AJ kissed it and her saintly saliva performed a miracle and made it immediately fit to be operated on? Either one seems like a viable explanation to me. And as for you, I think we’ve ruled out that you are either a doctor or a lawyer, so do enlighten us – what is your area of expertise precisely?
Reply@Tamara:
Becks has cheated on her both before and throughout their marriage, and she knows it well. There have been 3 women who have come forward to say they had an affair with Becks which was headline news for weeks at the time, but they never sued over any of them. (One had sexy texts from his mobile to back it up so it would have been a bit foolish on their part). She is rumoured to have said to him “the only time I can be sure you’re not cheating on me is when I’m giving you a son”. He told Rebecca Loos (the most famous of the 3 women) that he no longer found Posh sexually attractive (this was about 6 or 7 years ago). Hi conquests are rumoured to have included one very famous supermodel. I also heard a rumour from someone I worked with in TV that she shags around too (and this was about 7 or 8 years ago). They weren’t together on the night of her birthday and he has gone back to play in Italy and she hasn’t gone with him. They just hooked up recently to do publicity photos to try to show they’re still together. I would guess they’ve been over for longer than Brange have. JMO!
Reply@Keane Cyber Queen Supreme:Or the sex in the marriage is over. I don’t know where Becks is on the intelligence scale, but either he or his handlers know that hooking up with AJ would be a very bad financial move if it broke up his marriage.
That’s very interesting about People.
Reply@Different Guest:
Um he’s pretty dim but I’m sure he has the best people in the world! They do the thinking for him I would have thought! I’ve just fired off a long e-mail to Kate saying some things about what we have been discussing that I didn’t want to say explicitly here. I’m awaiting her response. It will be interesting to see whether she shares my thoughts and whether she has any answers for the bits that are still confusing me. Remember at the “birth” the mayor held up only one birth certiicate, that of “Knox”? If a child hadn’t been born to Brange (admittedly they would not have necessarily known for sure Brad was the father), either by natural means or other, how could they have faked that? I also remember one of SR’s posts singled out Knox, something about “gelatin” which sounded like it related to him. It is making me wonder. There is a definite mystery here that we need to try to get to the bottom of.
Reply@Different Guest:
ReplyWhy exactly did the Becks relocate to the US? Neither one does acting as far as I know. US Is not big into soccer and she has given up her singing career? Other than hunky’s love for Tom Cruise (platonic I am sure) – why exactly are they even here? Please clue in this dullard!
They doth protest too much! I am speaking about Will and Jada Smith. There is a short article at Huffingtonpost.com wherein Mrs. Smith discusses yet again her wild sex life with the Mr. Seems they have followed the evil Ms. Jolie and Bad Boy Billie routine and like to do it in limos on the way to the red carpet). It also seems the two of them dont have much to say about anything else (”we are not members of the COS but yes indeedy we have opened our very own school to reach kids about the teachings of L. Ron Hubbard”) except sex and she offers the info that neither one is gay. Even if I was doubtful before their orientations, I start to develop serious doubts about their honesty when they are constantly in denial and gushing to anyone with ears about their own sex life! That is suppose to be private stuff unless of course you have to keep the public aware of your denials. I dont believe her.
Reply@ladybert62:
Posh has always had her eye on LA and megastardom. She is a starf*cker. She used to hang around with the British gliterati like Elizabeth Hurley and Elton John, but people like Kate Moss shunned her. She got bored of Elton and Liz and wanted bigger things. TC struck up a friendship with Becks (presumably as a target for the church or for other reasons!) and they had a mutual admiration society. Posh and Katiebot tagged along for the ride and bonded over their mutual superficiality. Katiebot had invites to all the shows at Paris fashion week – which Posh didn’t so she tagged along as Katie’s plus one. They wore co-ordinating, monochrome outfits, no joke. The Cruises invited the Beckhamses to their wedding where Vicky achieved one of the ultimate goals of her life by talking to Jennifer Lopez. Posh now had her eye on the main prize (the LA scene) and would not take no for answer. David has always been considered hunky enough to make it as a HW star so off they popped, curtailing his interntional football career in the process. Now he is over it and wants to play football seriously again. She has got what she wanted by making friends with a few more celebrities (Eva Longoria and Kate Beckinsale for example) and has a degree of personal success through her fashion line. She knew she’d never get to this point without him so she clung on for dear life until she got it. Now she has it she is more willing to let go. And that is the fairytale of Posh and Becks as I see it. Sorry I know you didn’t ask me but I can read this woman like a book, as can most people in the UK. They are a laughing stock over here, especially her!
Reply@Keane Cyber Queen Supreme:
ReplyYes, yes, yes except…Becks was signed to the Galaxy for something like 100 million dollars so this gave Posh the excuse she needed to hob knob. Unfortunately about a week into his Galaxy contract he hurt his knee and couldn’t play. Hahahah They were courted like royalty in HW, so superficial.
@Tamara:
Hm but for Becks’ career it was a really stupid move. He’d been paying for the most successful clubs in Europe and was considered (arguably) one of the best footballers in the world, and then he abandoned it all to go to a side that in comparison was the equivalent of a bunch of lads having a kick about in the park. Footballers do do it (for the money), but always at the end of their career, when their best years are behind them and they aren’t playing internationally any more. Becks wasn’t at that point yet, but because he wasn’t getting the practice with anyone remotely in his league he couldn’t compete. He realised what a mistake he’d made which is why he has gone to AC Milan for the summer to try to prolong his international career. I – like I would have thought most of the UK – am convinced she pushed him to do it for the sake of her career, which is why she is sitting tight. I think she has alawys cared more about stardom than him, although I do think she loved him. It was just that she was and always has been more in love with fame and celebrity. Another soul sister for Angelina!
ReplyThat meant to say “playing” not “paying” of course. If he’d been paying for those sides for all of his career then Posh would most definitely have been with him for his money!
Reply@Keane Cyber Queen Supreme:
” Remember at the “birth” the mayor held up only one birth certiicate, that of “Knox”? If a child hadn’t been born to Brange (admittedly they would not have necessarily known for sure Brad was the father), either by natural means or other, how could they have faked that?”
Coming back to the mistery of the twins : If Know would have been born via surrogate (forget the donors for a sec ) , wouldn’t the mayor sign birth certificate if they claim to be the parents ? (If indeed so, or just one of them or none )
ReplyIn the case of renting….difficult !
Reply@Ms Agatha:
Yes that is what I thought too. That certificate would have to have come from somewhere. There must have been at least one baby born to someone which was said to be the biological offspring of Brange. But obviously as fans of Jeremy Kyle and the like know, just because a man is named as the father on a birth certificate does not mean that the baby is bioogically his. Only a DNA test would determine that. Hm, curiouser and curiouser….
Reply@Keane Cyber Queen Supreme:
ReplyMaybe something happened after ….. the twins were very sick …. all docus are already there and legitimate ….so if we go back to our movie scenario, it could fit
@Ms Agatha:
So are we coming to any conclusions then? I kind of am, although it is still murky.
Reply@Keane Cyber Queen Supreme:
Replyyes, I think so…. and you could never prove other than DNA testing…..
@Keane Cyber Queen Supreme:
ReplyThanks Keane for the info. I almost feel sorry for hunky himself! Sounds like a split is inevitable – and they have 3 young boys? Wonder where they (the boys) would rather be – here or there? I bet Mrs. Hunky does join the COS – then she would really be in with the “in crowd”. Wonder why she is such a star climber? She has the looks and a fair degree of originality – am surprised she has not made a bigger mark for herself if she is so driven and ambitious!
@Ms Agatha:
Hm no, I think there is evidence that one baby was born to someone which was said to be the biological child of Brange. At the time people said how odd it was that that famewhoring mayor only held up one brith certificate and not the papers of both holy offspring. I kind of know what I think now, but it could be completely wrong!
Reply@Keane Cyber Queen Supreme:
ReplyYou echo my thoughts again Keane! I almost put it into words but didn’t – in my opinion, from what I have learned, Mrs. Hunky does have a “neediness” about her for the Hollywood acceptance and give me fame! What was missing in her young life that she is trying to find now?
@ladybert62:
God no, she admits herself she is not talented as a performer and has never been the best looking of girls. She says she “makes the most of what she’s got”. With a little tweaking here and there of course! Oddly, she was mch better looking when she was in the Spice Girls and was carrying a bit more weight. Since she went for the ano look she has looked terrible IMO!
Reply@ladybert62:
No idea, she has a very close famiy who were also considerably wealthy. She has just always been very superficial I think. Has never grown out of her teenage ambitions! Like another 13 year old trapped in the body of a 33 year old we know and love methinks!
Reply@Keane Cyber Queen Supreme:
ReplyHolly could have been the surrogate for one….
@Tamara:
ReplyHi Tamara – yes I agree with you – especially in light of the horrendous “to do” when those children were “born” (cloned?) one year ago! Considering how much the evil one loves the limelight, there must be something exceedingly strange about those two children for her not to throw the world’s biggest birthday party since Nero!
@Keane Cyber Queen Supreme:
ReplyI doubt there are enough mirrors in the world to entertain those two in their “down”, “alone” time!
@Ms Agatha:
ReplyHi Ms. Agatha! Has anyone ever seen Holly’s baby?
no….wouldn’t you think they would come out with there babies ( 3 among themselves) on play date just to stop all rumors ?
Replytheir oops
ReplyI think AJ didn’t carry any of the twins
Reply@Ms Agatha:
ReplyYes I would think that – and since they dont, well makes me think there is something to the “rumor of the day”.
and I doubt if the twins are biological related
Reply@Ms Agatha:
ReplyReally? even the little boy that kinda looks like Brad (he has the same “dumb” look on his face that I associate with hapless when I saw the pictures of them all going to japan.)
@Ms Agatha:
ReplyNot related to either hapless or evil one? Or not related to each other as siblings?
one related to her, both not related to each other
Reply@ladybert62:
ReplyI forgot to give my daily mantra – so please insert the following wherever you see my name: Everything that I say, do, think or desire about any person, place, thing or idea, either expressed or implied, in the past, present or future, about the living or the dead, is my opinion only and is presented for amusement and entertainment value. Trademark pending …. ha ha
@Ms Agatha:
Replyand which one is related to her? boy or girl?
@ladybert62:
ReplyI don’t know
@ladybert62:
ReplyHiya! How are you doing? Hubby came home unexpectedly today just passing through! haha We (my dogs and I) were ecstatic! He is sleeping now, (has to drive all night) but I’ve spent some time in the pool, did the laundry, took my cat to the vet and now have wings marinating, waiting for the grill and the hot sauce, a big bowl of edamame and we’re all set! LOL
@ladybert62:
ReplyNobody has seen them in a year …. they are supposingly very sick….we don’t know what is going on with them …anything is possible…
Wing sauce: In a zip lock baggie pour in half a bottle of Crystal, 1 tbsp honey, 2 tbsp butter, liberal black pepper, garlic and pinch of salt. When wings are cooked, dump them in baggie, knead the bag and pour wings into a dish voila! LOL In case there’s anyone who cares! LOL
Reply@Ms Agatha:
ReplyOh NO – not the “IDK” response. You always have such clever ideas! I dont have a clue as to what the truth is and the ideas discussed here are so funny and interesting! Do hope Ian’s book clears up some of these issues for us!
@Ms Agatha:
Maybe. There was the whole “Sunday Rosed” reference in one of SR’s posts after all. My guess would have been slightly different to that though. Involving Holly, but not that. But that “Sunday Rosed” reference couldn’t mean a lot else I guess. Hmmm….
Reply@ladybert62:
ReplyMy guess , it’s the boy …….I wouldn’t even call them twins, because ( I think ) they are not ……
@Ms Agatha:
ReplyI find the “very sick” argument hard to swallow – I think if they were really sick, that would be played for sympathy by evil and hapless. I am back to the idea that I like, that either one or both of the twins is starting to resemble someone in such a striking obvious manner that hiding the twins is the only temporary answer untill cosmetic surgery is feasbile to make them look less revealing and more like evil and/or hapless!
Sorry for typos today – extremely warm still in SF and have a hard time thinking past the sweat dripping down my face and fingers!
Reply@Keane Cyber Queen Supreme:
ReplySame MO here….. outsourcing I would call it…..lol ( you would not believe the variety of prosthetic bellies out there )
@Tamara:
ReplyI will write it down and give it to hubby – he loves to cook and does everything on the grill! Thanks for sharing!
@Tamara:
Oh you Americans and your pools, you are just so flash! I am JEALOUS! It is hot in London but also rainy, grey and windy – the best combination ever! And today it was announced we have the highest unemployment figures since 1995, good times! BTW the wings sound delicious, but what are endamame? Are they those beans wot celebs eat when they are starving themselves?!
Reply@Keane Cyber Queen Supreme:
ReplyWhy would Ms. Holly do this? Money?
@ladybert62:
…… let’s say they have red hair and nobody in the family has….. haha
…well, since they are still so small, one wouldn’t be able to draw any conclusions so early on, only one more reason to take them out while still so young …… actually if we are going to see them one day, we wouldn’ t even know if it was really them, would we ? Maybe that’s the plan…
Reply@Keane Cyber Queen Supreme:
ReplyNow I am jealous – grey, windy and rainy and it if it is also below 70 degrees then that is my kind of weather! Is there also thunder and lightening? Then I would be in heaven. We dont have thunder storms in SF and I do miss them! I actually listen to a CD that is nothing but thunder sounds!
@Keane Cyber Queen Supreme:
Replyhahahaha! Edamame – soy beans in their pods and yes they are the very ones, but absolutely delicious!
@ladybert62:
ITA that the “very sick” thing is nonsense. It may mean that we don’t see them very much, but unless they are in long-term hospital care, it wouldn’t mean that we would never see them at all! (BTW they started spinning that allergies/illnesses line very early in the game, very soon after the birth in fact. Story was was that Angelina couldn’t bear to let anyone near the twins she was so terrified about them getting sick. BTW II, think about how many nannies and staff they have, whatever is the truth, there are a lot of people who know about it, maybe what SR meant by “awash with screamers”?). I don’t agree that they are growing up to look too much or too little like one person or another though which is why they are kept hidden. My friends’ daughter has never looked like either one of them (she is now 18 months) and she is definitely theirs! Plus if the babies were looking a bit too Voighty and not enough Pitty then they could just take after that side more. People commented on the fact that the twins looked different and were different sizes (i.e. looked like they were different ages) in that first People spread. I think that’s the problem!
Reply@ladybert62:
ReplyThey are extremely close for many years, soul mates, if AJ would have smaller lips they look the same, the two of them disappearing into that hospital together for weeks ….waiting for surrogate No 2 to deliver ?
@Ms Agatha:
ReplyAh Ha – now I get it – the references yesterday to the reason for the caps on the twins! I am slow – I admit it! Red hair – well, have to think about that!
@ladybert62:
ReplyThe thunder was so loud yesterday that it actually SHOOK my house! No kidding, we live in the Ozark Mountains
@ladybert62:
Yup, it’s grey, wet and windy but I still get sweaty on the tube. It’s probably below 70 though, we’ll have to do a swap!
Reply@ladybert62:
I’m not sure Ms Holly has necessarily done anything, although she does seem to have a great deal of trouble with the old e-mailing(!). I do however think that if she was ever to do anything for AJ, money would not be the motivation. I think they are “very close”!
Reply@Keane Cyber Queen Supreme:
ReplyI have seen very few pictures of them but when I did see those Japan pictures – I did a double take! Those kids looked too big to me, their faces were so puffy looking, the boy looked slack-jawed to me (as in severe mental illness). Maybe those “twins” are retarded – I am not very familiar with that area of mental health/baby development. But there are certain types of retardation that clearly show on the face – and there are certain types of retardation caused by genetics (ok back to incest). What do you think about this theory?
@Tamara:
ReplyOh I am jealous! Next time you have a good CLAPPER, think of me! Did you also have lots of lightening?
@Ms Agatha:Remember the brouhaha over Suri Cruise birth certificate. The Mayor wouldn’t have been in the delivery room. All you need is a cooperative doctor.
Reply@Ms Agatha:
I disagree with that. People can get red hair when they have one parent who is fair, not necessarily redhead. Greek Peter Andre and half Italian Katie Price had a baby girl with white skin and white blonde hair – (and I am hoping she is genuinely his, she does look like him – keeping fingers crossed!). I don’t think those physical characteristics are necessarily a giveaway. I don’t think that is the problem, but I am not exactly sure what is…..!
Reply@ladybert62:I don’t think so, VB likes to spend the $ on herself, there was a rumor that TC’s constant pushing the church on them created a rift.
Reply@Keane Cyber Queen Supreme:
ReplyOT, but since you mentioned it, I hear Peter Andre is the hero for England these days. Read that he got a standing ovation when he walked on stage at some show! LOL I would have to say that he is indeed the better half. I always thought he was too good for her!!
@ladybert62:
I don’t know, I think babies can often look a bit gaga, and they aren’t always that attractive in their first year. If they’d lit them well and got a good photog and good retouching they could have made them look just fine I think. (I don’t mean actually set light to them of course, I’m talking about good lighting!).
Reply@Keane Cyber Queen Supreme:
ReplyNot only the Sunday Rosed … also KH has supposedly outsourced…. rumor in HW is, that’s what they all do now, but faking it…
@ladybert62:Unless very sick is a direct result of a mother using drugs. The other thing is a very sick child(ren) is going to tie you down. Look at how many people were appalled that Octomom was not spending every waking moment at the hospital.
Reply@Different Guest:
I guess so, I’m not sure about French docs but that would be a rarity for a Brit doctor I would say, and I believe French healthcare is better than ours. If it was an American doc though I’d be more willing to believe it. No offence meant, American docs aren’t coming off too well in the media lately!
Reply@Keane Cyber Queen Supreme:
Reply… of course, you are right….. mine was just meant to be as an funny example not meant to be literally…
I think age and genetic differences will show….
@Different Guest:
ReplyOr nice donation …..lol
@Keane Cyber Queen Supreme:Unfortunately money talks louder than ethics in any language or country. When I was a teen I babysat for a couple who adopted their child, that was back in the day when they still tried to match race and coloring to the parents. When they moved to another state, very few people realized she was adopted because she resembled her parents.
Reply@Ms Agatha:
Really? Do you mean not even using the celebs eggs, just paying someone else to have a child for you without your involvement whatsoever? I would have thought there was too much narcissism at work for that to happen, unless of course their eggs are no good…. That wasn’t actually what I was thinking about before, but you may know more about celebrity reproductive trends than me! I was thinking more of the borrowing angle… who knows! Ok I will leave you all to ruminate on it, got to go!
Oh and @ Tamara, yep Andre is now the hero and KP is zero, can’t believe it has taken so long!
Night all x
Reply@Keane Cyber Queen Supreme:Considering the less that healthy eating and drug habits of the denizens of HW using donor everything might be a smart move.
Reply@Keane Cyber Queen Supreme:
ReplyThey use surrogates and the ladies using their eggs alright…..
only Sarah Jessica Parker was open about it….. she refused to fake it , and she could have easily
Reply@Keane Cyber Queen Supreme:
@ladybert62:
Actually, I’m jealous of both of you! I am in Houston and we went from the hottest June since records were kept to a sweltering July (temps upper 90s and heat index usually around 105 – 110). We usually get 5 or 6 inches of rain in June and we got just over 1 inch! I miss the rain sooooooooooo much! And ladybert, I’d happily take the hottest day you have in exchange for one of hours.
Reply@too curious:
oops, “ours” not “hours” – see, I start thinking about cooler weather and my mind goes out the window…
Reply@Ms Agatha:
Replybb14. I am starting to think that they don’t really exist. I mean when they were born we saw photos of Brad and Ange hovering all over them on People mag. Then there were the photos of Brad photographing AJ when breastfeeding. Where would those babies come from? possibly rent-a-kid?
@ladybert62:
Replybb14. I hope it doesn’t get to hot there, I am in SF in August, and I hate hot weather the hot weather we have in Australia is mindboggling I can’t stand it.
Purely a flight of fantasy on my part: Say there is a famewhore in a relationship that’s heading south rapidly. You do what women have done since time immemorial, you get pregnant to hold him. Only you also have this little habit you have absolutely no intention of giving up and something goes terribly wrong and you aren’t pregnant anymore. And somehow there is documentation of why you aren’t pregnant anymore. What’s a famewhore to do? You have money and you have connections through your “charity” work to poor women. You continue to fake a pregnancy and take yourself off to a foreign country to give “birth”. Meanwhile your minions locate a poor woman of similar ethnic background carrying twins due around the same time you are. Only poverty and a twin pregnancy don’t mix well so your surrogate goes into labor early and delivers very sick same gender twins, which your assistant mistakenly announces to the world and immediately retracts. While the minions are sent to find another surrogate you go park yourself in the hospital away from prying eyes. This time the minions can only come up with someone expecting one baby. Who arrives in the due course – but the mother does not want to give the child up. And did I mention your assistant is also pregnant due about the same time you are? You present two babies to the world and no one needs to be any the wiser. The problem is you are still a famewhore and the rumors start swirling. You hope a staged photo-op with you and your partner carrying two babies will quell the rumors, only your not very careful and don’t the babies in their carriers properly and the rumors continue to circulate.
Reply@benjaminbutton14:
ReplyWell the usual pattern is if there is hot weather in SF (which is unusual), it usually only stays for 3 days then the cooler air from the pacific ocean hits the hot air and lovely, lovely fog is produced (and some times so thick that I cannot even see across the street – just the way I like it). Our hot weather started on Sunday and now today (wednesday) tthe fog has drifted in, so yesterday it was 93 degrees and now it is 63 degrees (perfect)! So I will pray for our usual cool weather for you in August as I am like you and hate hot! How do you stand it in Australia?
@too curious:
ReplyDang, dang, dang – you can keep that texas weather! I would be a raving lunatic (and put away under lock and key!)
@Keane Cyber Queen Supreme:
Replybb14. I may be wrong but isn’t Peter Andre an Australian???
@Different Guest:
ReplyExcellent Different Guest! Your scenario makes sense to me in all regards. I think you have cracked the nut!
@Keane Cyber Queen Supreme:
…. rumor is that NK is said to be so narcissistic, she even refused to wear bigger prosthesis later in pregnancy …
.@benjaminbutton14:
….. rent-a-kid maybe very much in option …. since we are talking about a lot of money involved here – for one reason or other – there were no twins …… maybe one surrogate and one adopted/rented …. their births weeks apart ….. but they were presented to the world as twins and a lot of money changed hands…
Reply@ladybert62:
Replybb14. Thank you for that. It gets very hot here Down Under. The bush fires we have are huge. Last summer we had 220 people die in fires who couldn’t escape the fires it was really gruesome some people were found in their cars burned to death trying to escape but didn’t make it. I am a nurse and was called in to try and identify some of the bodies but couldn’t do it they were too badly burned or nothing left of them. Our summers here get to 45 celceious which is about 110-115F it really is unbearable. I think the hot weather comes because we are so close to the equator. We are in winter now and badly in need of rain but we are in a drought a very bad one. I am looking forward to my trip to the US love going there but coming back to Australia it takes 2 days, can be very boring being we are a day ahead of the US. Thank you for your prayers
@Ms Agatha:
Replybb14. I agree with you something very dodgy is going on I hope we can work out what it is.
@Ms Agatha:Fraternal twins can be different sizes. One of my nieces has always been bigger than her sister, at this point she’s about 4 inches taller and at least 10# heavier.
ReplyHollywood legend Robert Redford walked down the aisle with German artist Sibylle Szaggars in a ceremony in Hamburg at the weekend. It was his second marriage.
Ok IAN: The next weeding is for Brangelina.
Reply<@Different Guest:
I agree, they cam be quite different in sizes. This scenario here is so much more out of the ordinary though:
ReplyYour niece didn’t go into hospital for weeks together with her best friend who was due at exact time, who then also announced the birth of her friend to press, ( she was literally eye witness to birth ), to retract the statement hrs later, claiming somebody impersonated her and got hold of her secret blackberry no. …. never mind that the press person she talked to was a friend of hers too ( she denied it, and the press friend claimed he recognized her voice)….. then you hear nothing from your niece for another 4 weeks (she is still under cover in hospital) before first the birth of twin girls !!! is announced and then later birth of a boy and a girl….. Dont you agree something smells in the State of Denmark !
@ladybert62:
ReplyThank the weather Gods! That means it will start cooling down in the Valley. I hope you don’t take this the wrong way, but you completely remind me of my mother and her weather preferences! I love it! She hates anything warmer than 70 degrees and moved from the Valley to a mountainous state to get away from the heat. She refuses to visit me here from June-October because of the heat. I try and take my cues from my animals and remain very still during the hottest hours of the day. I love movie theaters for the air conditioning in the summer.
@benjaminbutton14:
ReplyHope that Ian is coming out with his book soon…. why not at opening of IB ? lol…. that would be fun
@Different Guest:
ReplyBTW… I agree with you …. that’s a long the lines of my thinking …..
@Different Guest:
Reply…. and all for the money…..
@Ms Agatha:Very much so, that’s why the rumors won’t go away. If AJ was pregnant and she did deliver twin girls the end of May they would have been very premature (her due date was mid August). That’s at least 10 weeks premature, that kind of prematurity is usually accompanied by serious complications.
Reply@Ms Agatha:
ReplyWhy did the idea of twins even come up to begin with?
@ladybert62:
ReplyBecause she has to do everything bigger and better. She’s an attention whore. Most addicts are. JMO
@backalleyknees:
ReplyI forgot to tell you! I am your mother – incognito! Ha ha
@ladybert62:Because having twins make you special!
Reply@backalleyknees:
ReplyPlus, she could legitimately say that twins run in Pitt’s blood. I think his sister has a set of twins and I’m pretty sure I read somewhere that another family member of his has a set of twins. If I were to go out on a limb, I’d say AJ wanted to compete with Julie. THe only reason I say that is because of the reports of the cat fight between the two…AJ does not like to be shown up. And if she was using a drug such as Clomid, which helps women drop more eggs at once, the likelihood that she could have twins is a lot higher.
@backalleyknees:
ReplyThat makes as much sense to me as anything else that she does! You made me laugh out loud at that one!
@backalleyknees:
ReplyDang, I am surprised she stopped at twins! Why not triplets or quads? That is probably next – just like her biggest fan – octomom!
@ladybert62:
ReplyHaha! Well, if she lived in the city it would be a lot easier for me to visit her! Something about your computer “essence” does in fact remind me of my mom though. I think its great!
@ladybert62:
ReplyAj first confirmed pregnancy around 10th April 2008 after revealing ‘ she felt kicking’ during conference talks in Washington, D.C.
Then Dustin Hoffman revealed that the actress is due to give birth to twins on August 19.
Later during the Cannes Film Festival, Jack Black revealed she was expecting twins ! (first mentioning) August 19TH. Then AJ was ‘ forced ‘ to confirm rumors she was expecting twins……
@ladybert62:
Replyhahahahahaah …. lol
@ladybert62:Because triplets and quads are very high risk and she definitely could not have continued her extracurricular activities. I can see her not accepting delivering less than perfect children.
Reply@backalleyknees:
Replywell I consider that a compliment!
@backalleyknees:the problem is twins have to run in her family – he’s just providing the sperm. It’s all about the eggs.
Reply@ladybert62:
ReplyIVF ……. that’s why you get so many twins in HW lately lol
@ladybert62:
Replyseriously! It would feed her insatiable need for media/planetary attention. Just keep raising the stakes higher and higher…that must be an exhausting way of life. It must be crushing for these Hollywood types or anyone who is always in the limelight to go from this crush of awesome press to being yesterday’s news. a true narcissist (AJ) would fight to the bitter end to not be relegated to yesterdays trash. I wonder if it reminds her of being discarded/forgotten by her father when she was younger? Determined to never let anyone have that kind of power over her again? Kind of rambling and just following my train of thought…hope that made some sense.
@Different Guest:
Replyagreed, the came very premature …. and we know the 2 girls became 1 boy 1 girl ….. the contract with people was for twins….. sooooooooooo ???
@Different Guest:
ReplyBabies to go! What a novel idea for the 21st century – you order, we deliver! If not satisfied, just return (at buyer’s expense of course!) Gives new meaning to “caveat emptor” for buyer beware! But then, what to do if return delivery is denied! Dang, what a way to live. Wish HariKari Girl was here – maybe she could shed some light on this from the Hollywood point of view!
@Different Guest:
ReplySo if twins don’t run in the mother’s side it isn’t very likely? Had my facts very wrong then. Thanks for the correction! (if I had a smiley face I’d post it)
@ladybert62:
Replyserious upgrade from stork delivery. You don’t have to deal with molted feathers and bird droppings.
@backalleyknees:
ReplyI think your train of thought is a very wise one. ….. never let have anybody that kind of power of her anymore… that’s exactly it
@backalleyknees:
ReplyIt makes sense to me – I think she is compensating in adulthood for all those emotional/psychological/developmental things she was denied/missed/never got when she was “growing up” physically – as she is still growing up mentally! She must be having a fit if the “family of 8″ has overtaken her spot on all the tabloids this week – no brangelina news even though they just had a birthday! She is probably going to do something soon to return the spotlight to her one and only holiness!
@backalleyknees:
Replylol lol lol
@ladybert62:
ReplyI cant wait for those kids to grow up and start writing their “tell alls” – Mommy Dearest will seem like a lullabye in comparison!
@ladybert62:I hate to tell you this but it’s already happening. There have been articles in the NY Times about women in India hiring out their wombs, it’s big business.
Reply@backalleyknees:You can have a million swimmers but if there’s only egg that’s all you are going to get. That said if any of the girls really are Pitt’s they could a tendency to have twins from his genetic line.
Reply@ladybert62:
ReplyMaddox will be first to be out of there, he is the oldest …….. he can write his memoires with the age of 15 lol
@Ms Agatha:Only if he knows how to write.
Reply@Different Guest:
ReplyEspecially sad since in Indian they still have the idea that women are second class humans and female babies are killed and there are still examples of women killing themselves when hubby dies! I dont blame them for renting out their wombs – they need the money and people will buy – why not, I say!
@Different Guest:
Reply….hahaha… that’s why they pay so little attention to schooling … lol
@ladybert62:
ReplyActually this is also going on here in the USA…… provides extra income for woman who desperately need the money
have a great evening ladies!
ReplyIan, you looked like a steaming pile of rancid shit on that sober vegan lesbian’s show tonight. You are such a pitiful waste of human cells.
Reply@keane cyber queen supreme:
ReplyWhat did I tell you about that fag talk?
@benjaminbutton14:
@Keane Cyber Queen Supreme:
First link is from Jan 18, 2008 … Oscar Round Table…. AJ has a TOTAL flat stomach ( she appears at end of video, and you can clearly see her flat stomach, skinny figure )
http://video.newsweek.com/#?t=1382900166&l=1382896267
Only 9 days later, on January 29, 2009 she is wearing that huge strapless dress, brown like a sack , at red carpet event …. BP …hands in pocket …..
http://img2.timeinc.net/people/i/2008/specials/sag08/arrivals/angelina_jolie.jp
( Google pic Jan 29 2009 AJ and pic comes up with date etc. )
Within 9 days her body goes from not pregnant to huge ? ? …… amazing, how she could pull that off unnoticed, actually it is pretty bold …… she padded herself for dramatic effect …
ReplyMiss Nine Cents
Notice the violin and plushies in Brangie’s shopping cart.
The answer we all had to this was a resounding-NO!
LOL at the time we had a hard time figuring that out, in retrospect it is easy to see it meant, there is no love (violins) for the Long Island Ice Team (that was the title) and there are not babies (plushies), now the only question is, does that mean literally no babies at all, or just not thats she carried in her uterus?
Reply@Kate:
ReplyThanks Kate…… hope we will get an answer…. we’ve been working all day on the issue lol
@Kate:
Can you imagine when his AJ bomb is going to hit ….. it’ s going to get crazy …. lol
ReplyAlso, there is no TV program Ian does not appear right now ….
@Ms Agatha:
LOL I bet she is getting nervous, I bet she will be in Europe by then. Look at this one, this was on April 16, look at the phase about the the tiny stained pillows, combine that with the velvet lined boxes , and the empty cart no babies, frightening. yikes, soun