IUC World Exclusive: More Than 500 Media Requests Later I Broke My Silence Tonight – Read About The Final Days of Michael Jackson
Everyone from CNN , NBC, CBS, GMTV to obscure radion stations and newspapers in Indiana, Moscow, and Manchester have called. I broke my silence in The London Daily Mail – (Click Here)
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Hello!!!!!! Nice to have you back.
ReplyRegular people such as myself cannot even imagine how it could be for him. He was so talented and so talented. To be like that and lose it all, must be so devastating. he knew he couldn’t sing or dance like before and here are these fans screaming for you. There were grown men crying and screaming for him at the press conference for this concert series. He knew he didn’t have it and the concert people surely knew as well. a blind man could have seen it, don’t you think? Had to be pretty tough to take.
ReplyGreat article IAN, I thought I heard you say that you never believed Michael to be guilty of those charges. I see now that Debbie has now admitted that Michael is not the children’s biological father, and surprising she has changed her mind about wanting custody. Wonder who got to her? Sadly those kids have a tough battle themselves ahead.
Reply@Kate:Changed her mind to not want custody? From the article looks like the Nanny doesn’t exactly have clean hands. If Michael isn’t the biological father, this could get really messy.
Reply@Kate:
ReplyThose poor kids indeed. Can there really be a non-invested party who actually cares? The nanny maybe, but let us remember Elvis. The dude was worth more dead than alive. We have no reason to believe this is any different. It is Michael Freakin Jackson for heavens sake. Without his enormous expenditures to live there is a lot of royalty money I would think. However, I don’t know a thing on this situation.
Chapeaux… Ian… this is the most informative article I have ever read on MJ ! Ever !
ReplyInteresting article. Lots of enablers in his life. Sad situaiton didn’t have to be this way. Agreed, greed is what caused his demise, bad doctors, friends. Those who wanted soemting from him, pushed him back into concerts he could never perform. People used him, controlled him. he was needy and vulnerable and easily manipulated. People took advantage of him, for what they could get out of him, including some members of his family.
Reply@Different Guest:
ReplyBut if your do IVF with donor sperm (and even eggs), don’t the donors relinquish any and all rights? It seems that would be SOP.
@Vittoria:I was thinking about the sperm donor. I’m not sure when CA passed the Uniform Parentage Act, I don’t think it was before 2000. Before that if a child wasn’t conceived during a marriage paternity was always in question. Parentage has gotten considerably messier in the last 10 years. An argument that her attorneys might use is that the Jacksons aren’t even biologically related to these children and that Michael apparently didn’t have much of a relationship with his family – so placing them with the biological mother would not be much different. The kids are the keys to the kingdom. It will probably take years for his estate to be settled.
Reply@Different Guest:Sorry I wasn’t thinking about the sperm donor.
Reply@Different Guest:
http://www.newsoftheworld.co.uk/news/381773/Mother-of-Michael-Jackons-children-Debbie-Rowe-confesses-he-was-not-their-father.html
Here is her statement about not wanting the kids, will never see them again, and states he was not their bio dad. Odd thing to do right now.
Reply@Vittoria:
well if he left 200 songs for the children, sure. I suspect he will be worth millions dead, that was his plan apparently.
I don’t know about the Nanny, and then there is the bio mom of Blanket, she could come forward, and there are those who say that MC was the sperm donar for the two older children.
Reply@Different Guest:
ReplyThanks. I read some blurb that his brother said he had not even seen his (the brother’s) kids since they were born the last few years. Doesn’t sound very close does it? Let’s face it, they all would make a buck off him and the kids if they could.
@Kate:Very peculiar considering other places are reporting she’s going to fight for them. Sounds like Mark Lester might be the best option,
Reply@Kate:Who’s MC?
ReplyIan, I am glad you broke your silence….. what you had to say was the most NO SPIN I have yet read on MJ…
ReplyI am so sick and tired of the lies and half-truth out there , if it is MJ or AJ/BP or whoever…. we need people who not only have the knowledge but also the courage to deliver….
@Kate:
ReplyYeah…who’s MC???? I’m wracking my inadequate brain trying to figure that one.
Ian – are AJ/BP together in LA?
Reply@Different Guest:
I saw that too and wondered if this is the most recent since it is dated for the 28th and it is that in London I suppose but the middle of the wee hours of the morning. Why come out when the children are grieving and say, “your daddy was not your daddy” , there has to be an angle there, and to say she will never see them again, ever? She is an odd fish. I remember her intgerviews, crying, weeping, saying she was afraid for her children, she looked like she had been threatened then. Now and about face?
I wonder if IAN knows, and I am curious as to why the Daily Mail and not CNN or NBC or CBS ? CNN has a much larger audience, doesn’t it?
Reply@Vittoria:
Home Alone
Reply@Vittoria:
ReplyPerfect time for them to fly their seperate ways, drop the bomb on the media while they are all scrambling over Michael, and then run for cover. lol
@Kate:
Replyhahaha… OK…got it…
@Kate:
Replymore haha
@Kate:That MC, lord that wouldn’t be much better. Wonder if Brad will have the balls to do it.
ReplyAll Celebs Alert:
LAPD needs to do drug tests on all celebs with residence in LA with kids/ adopted or not …. just enforcing the law would be a nice change of procedure…
Reply@Ms Agatha:
ReplyAggie, I so agree. I knew I liked Ian for some reason. LOL
BTW, MJ was a very smart man to leave his children 200 unpublished songs. I wish I had just one !
Reply@unknownxcat:
..that’s why we are here… and not somewhere else… lol… cat
Reply@unknownxcat:
Reply…or just a recording of a whistle in the shower …. lol
What I found the most interesting about the article was the fact that you think MJ was innocent and also that he was gay. I always thought he was just asexual. Why did her never just come out of the closet. Part of the reason people so readily believed the molestation charges was not only because he looked weird, but he seemed to never ever have had a genuine grown up sexual relationship in his entire 50 years.
I’d really like to know about the men he dated. And I have to believe his mother’s strict religion kept him in the closet.
ReplyI don’t care if you have the secret of the universe locked away, you’re still a self-obsessed, congratulatory hack.
Reply@Vittoria:
Replybb14. Yes I would like to know that to I reckon they are.
@Vittoria:
bb14. I get the feeling you are checking if they really did see Brad and Ange.
Well you can read the piece from our paper.
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Ms Wilson said the bus pulled up in front of the gates of the mansion while photographers milled around the entrance.
“All of a sudden the gates open and out came the ambulance while paparazzi were all running and banging and trying to take photos in the back of the ambulance,” Ms Wilson said.
They managed to capture the historic moment with photographs that show Jackson’s body being taken from his home as his minders try to keep the paparazzi at bay.
Ms Battaglia said the scene became chaotic as Jackson’s staff fought to block the paparazzi from grabbing final pictures of the dying star.
Ms Wilson said passengers on the bus had no idea what they were witnessing.
“It was all happening. We weren’t sure who was in the car at that stage,” she said.
“They were just yelling out and then the ambulance took off and two black SUVs came out of the driveway and followed it.”
The women said photographers dashed to follow the ambulance.
“The paparazzi were running towards our bus saying ‘go go go’,” Ms Battaglia said.
“They got in a car and took off driving erratically, chasing the ambulance,” she said.
“I couldn’t believe what was going on. It was surreal.”
As their bus then left the scene the driver paused to speak to a local woman who sells maps to the stars’ houses.
“She was crying on the phone and bus driver stopped and said “Mary, what’s going on? Is it him?” Ms Wilson said.
“She was wailing and crying but she couldn’t talk, she just said “Yes, it’s him. It’s Michael.”
Yesterday the two women were feeling flat after their brush with celebrity death.
“Today we’re a bit sad about the whole thing,” Ms Wilson said.
The event lent a bizarre and tragic twist to a celebrity-filled day for the two Australians, who were staying at the historic Hotel Roosevelt, once home to Marilyn Monroe and Clark Cable.
Earlier that morning Ms Wilson ran into Brad Pitt and Angelina Jolie as they were leaving the hotel.
“That was about 10.30 in the morning. I was just walking down a corridor with no one else there and this door flicks open and there’s Brad and Angelina,” she said.
ReplySource: Investigators Surprised at Jackson’s Health
Saturday, June 27, 2009
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May 6: Michael Jackson is shown in Los Angeles during rehearsals for his planned concert in London.
May 6: Michael Jackson is shown in Los Angeles during rehearsals for his planned concert in London.
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The body of Michael Jackson, who died Thursday, has been released by the Los Angeles County coroner’s office.
Coroner Investigator Jerry McKibben says Jackson’s body was returned to the singer’s family Friday night and was moved to an undisclosed mortuary.
Jackson’s body had been kept in its own crypt at the morgue under lock so that no pictures of the body would be leaked, a source told FOX News. Such a move rarely, if ever, happens.
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The source told FOX News investigators conducting the autopsy were also surprised at how healthy Jackson was.
While he wasn’t necessarily normal, he appeared to be stronger than they expected. Investigators were surprised to see significant scarring on his face, this being the first time they had seen Jackson without make-up.
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He had bruises on his chest consistent with someone trying to revive him, but there were no obvious signs of a heart attack, which leads investigators to believe some sort of drug or drug combination caused either the heart to stop beating or the lungs to stop breathing.
Craig Harvey, a spokesman for the Los Angeles County coroner, said Friday there were no signs of foul play in the autopsy and further tests would be needed to determine Jackson’s cause of death.
Jackson died Thursday afternoon at the age of 50 after being rushed from the Los Angeles area mansion where he was staying to UCLA Medical Center, where he was pronounced dead at 2:26 p.m.
No funeral plans have been made public.
The Associated Press contributed to this report.
ReplyJust read Michael Jackson’s father is demonstrating very inappropriate behaviour after his son’s passing. He is happy, joking, and no body says anything to him. No wonder he’s this way, no wonder Michael turned out as he did. Not only is Jackson’s father at fault, but all those around who witnessed it and never said, what are you doing and thinking. Your son just died and you’re here joking, laughing. Shame on you.
Joe, 79, shocked onlookers as he clowned around outside the family home in Los Angeles.
They said he looked “almost ecstatic” and “totally relaxed” as he trotted down the drive to chat to family friend the Rev Jesse Jackson who was giving TV interviews outside the house.
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One fan said: “Millions are mourning around the world and he’s laughing his head off. It’s absolutely sickening.”
His bizarre performance was in total contrast to the grim appearance of the rest of Jacko’s family, including weeping mum Katherine, 79, who now have to sort out a nightmarish tangle of problems thrown up by his sudden death.
http://www.people.co.uk/news/tm_headline=laugh-of-michael-jackson-s-father&method=full&objectid=21477642&siteid=93463-name_page.html
ReplyGreat article. Take back earlier snark. Why Mail though? Are UK laws easier- I always thought it was the other way round. Just being nosey.
ReplyWhat’s that quote about tradgedy and farce? I wish I could remember it. Seems right in the strange, sad life of MJ.
Congrats, Ian, on a very well-written, thoughtful and comprehensive article.
ReplyThat’s it- History repeats itself, first as tragedy, second as farce.
ReplyKarl Marx
Great article Ian, many congratulations. Hope all is well with the Laliberte case too. All the best x
ReplyOFF SUBJECT SORRY…
ReplyScientology ?? Ian has an ad for Dianetics ?? Why would you promote that horrid cult ? $ talks, I guess – ?
the nanny´s story in the Uk Times sounds a little different though
ReplyWhat is the Scientology ad?
Reply@Vittoria:
ReplyIt comes up on the right, one of the ads in circulation on Ian’s site.
For weeks if not months the readers here have begged you to moderate the board, begged for updates, asked for acknowledgements, begged you to get a grip on the endless flame wars, announced publicly they were defecting to other forums, all while this entire board has gone to hell. So the lesson I am taking from this is it takes 500 requests and they must relate to getting you more publicity before you respond to the readers on your daily blog. This really pisses me off. Your account of MJ is completely different from Maureen Orth’s who has written about MJ for 12 years. How do you account for that?
Reply@TobyKat:
ReplyI would like to clarify that the post above from TobyKat is mine, Constant Gardener. TobyKat is in FLA as everyone knows and while she was here the other night posted from my computer. This is not some kind of alter ego posting game, this is what happened. CG and apologies to TK!!!
Reposting with the correct user name:
TobyKat said on June 28th, 2009 at 8:30 am
For weeks if not months the readers here have begged you to moderate the board, begged for updates, asked for acknowledgements, begged you to get a grip on the endless flame wars, announced publicly they were defecting to other forums, all while this entire board has gone to hell. So the lesson I am taking from this is it takes 500 requests and they must relate to getting you more publicity before you respond to the readers on your daily blog. This really pisses me off. Your account of MJ is completely different from Maureen Orth’s who has written about MJ for 12 years. How do you account for that?
This post was written by Constant Gardener.
ReplyIan you are a vulture. Hope you enjoy your BLOOD MONEY. Can’t wait to see how you and your loved ones are treated if tragedy befalls you or those you care about . . .oh that’s right NO one would care about YOU, because you are worse than dog poop. You’ve sold your soul to the devil. Making money from the tragedy and pain of others. I truly hope your daughter is never in the public eye and subjected to the scrutiny, fabrications and intrusions that you perpetrate on others. Then maybe you would develop a sense of decency.
ReplyThe source told FOX News investigators conducting the autopsy were also surprised at how healthy Jackson was.
While he wasn’t necessarily normal, he appeared to be stronger than they expected. Investigators were surprised to see significant scarring on his face, this being the first time they had seen Jackson without make-up.
He had bruises on his chest consistent with someone trying to revive him, but there were no obvious signs of a heart attack, which leads investigators to believe some sort of drug or drug combination caused either the heart to stop beating or the lungs to stop breathing.
This is key, a healthy hypochondriac, given an overdose of drugs by doctors. Wonder how this doc feels, being the one who injected the drug that was most likely responsible for the end of Michael Jackson. No doubt other drugs were involved however, it is ironic that while in the care of a heart doctor, he gives him a drug unrelated to heart disease, and he dies, as Sanjay Gupta, Deepak Chopra, and his lawyer have pointed out, doctors and most likely family, friends were Michael’s enablers.
Reply@MaeIAsk:
ReplyThe article is being widely debunked. It has been widely agreed on this website that the Daily Mail is an unreliable source. There will be an army of people lining up to profit from MJ’s death. That fact is equally as grotesque as the life that MJ lived. He was a talented man. He was a complete failure at life. Glad to see the dynamic in place here. Fuck the daily readers, just come out with an article when it is to your benefit.
@Constant Gardener:
PS As I said on the original MJ thread:
Overdose, take it to the bank.
I stand by that call.
Reply@TobyKat:
ReplyBefore I get any replies I did not post this, Constant Gardner did. i was visiting and used her computer and my name, email ect was still in the required fields. However, I must say that I completely agree with her on how this site has gone down the drain in the last 3 to 4 weeks. What a disappointment.
@John:
ReplyHow the FUCK does a CARDIOLOGIST not know how to properly administer CPR eg the 911 call-the Cardiologist was administering CPR while the body was ON THE BED. This defies logic as it is the first rule of CPR-put the patient on the floor!!!!! The cardiologist was a financially compromised TOOL. Judging by the BK filings and assorted liens against the Dr this “opportunity of a lifetime” as he called it in his resignation letter to his patients, was a chance for him to get out of debt. Of course, there was a bit of soul selling involved. Bet he never guessed that his own greed + the MJ machine would actually kill the golden goose.
I see that the outstanding member of the journalistic community, Perez Hilton, a tool who shot his own dick off last week is now quoting you. Interesting.
Reply@Kelley:</a
knowing the men he dated is absured to me. people will just pop up themselves claiming they too have had relationship with MJ. If this will only make him richer! OMG! there has been so many claims!
Reply@TobyKat:
ReplyI didnt know you and CG were friends in real life. That’s cool!!
@John:
ReplyITA. At the same time I do not see MJ as a victim. He alone had the option to GROW UP and reconcile his shitty childhood which he did not do. You cannot reach the age of 50 without some realization that your parents may have messed up your childhood but YOU are messing up your life. There is plenty of blame to go around however, MJ himself should be the first name on the list.
@Tamara:
ReplyLOL yeah we used to work together at “a global corporate HQ” -TobyKat was my customer and I was the salesho.
@MaeIAsk:
MaeIAsk you really are the last person to lecture anyone on the subject of “decency”. You don’t have any whatsoever. Those in glass houses should not throw stones.
ReplyMichael Jackson’s Nanny:”I Had to Pump His Stomach Many Times”
Sunday June 28, 2009
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The nanny who cared for Michael Jackson’s three children is providing new insight into the King of Pop’s battle with prescription drugs.
In an interview with The Times of London, Grace Rwaramba – who worked for Jackson for more than a decade – reveals that she had to pump Jackson’s stomach “many times” after he’d taken a dangerous combination of drugs.
“He always mixed so much of it,” Rwaramba, 42, is quoted as saying. “There was one period that it was so bad that I didn’t let the children see him. He always ate too little and mixed too much.”
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Distraught over Jackson’s drug use, she once proposed an intervention, contacting his mother Katherine and sister Janet for help, only to find herself fired by the King of Pop.
“He didn’t want to listen; that was one of the times he let me go,” says Rwaramba, who started out as an office assistant.
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Rwaramba, who was last fired in December, also sheds light on Jackson’s debt (he was reportedly awash in about $400 million in debt at the time of his death).
Last April, when she visited Jackson’s children — Prince, now 12; Paris, 11; and Blanket, 7 — she had to buy balloons for Paris’ birthday because the singer was so broke.
Says Rwaramba, “Michael had no idea about money.”
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On Friday, the day after Jackson died, Rwaramba says the singer’s mother Katherine called her from Michael’s rented L.A. house and asked where he kept his money. “She said, ‘Grace, the children are crying. They are asking about you. They can’t believe that their father died. Grace, you remember Michael used to hide cash at the house. I am here. Where can it be?’”
She told Katherine to look “at the garbage bags and under the carpets,” Rwaramba recalls. “She said, ‘Grace, where are you? Come. I will pick you up from the airport.’ She sounded so strong. So strong!”
Rwaramba is now meeting with Los Angeles detective investigating Jackson’s death.
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Didn’t Keane say that the Daily Mail is little more than a rag with no credibility? She is right. If they let Ian’s punk ass anywhere near them I would have to say that is an accurate assessment.
Reply@Keane’s Cat:
ReplyI’m kind of surprised at the venue (Daily Mail) in which Ian agreed to talk. I would think that NBC or CNN would have been a much more reputable vessel, but I suppose he must have chosen in accordance with how much they were willing to pay.
@Keane’s Cat:
You would know seeing as your my cat right? You must know everything about me seeing as you live in my basement with me (except I don’t do basements obviously, I like a view). I actually find it very interesting that The Daily Mail published a story from Ian. Looks like Brange don’t quite have the control over the media they think they do. I always say publications are only faithful to whatever is the big story at the time, not individuals. Whatever anyone may think about The Mail it has major readership; nearly 3 million people a day and very middle-England based too. It’s good for Ian and good for his future book sales. It’s not so good for Brange obviously and their inevitable attacks on Ian’s cred, which is something I’m sure they’re weeping bitter tears over right now. Shame.
ReplyThe world has you compassionate clitoria.@Vittoria:
ReplyKeane, does it hurt to talk out both sides of your mouth? You are such a witless wonder. @Keane Cyber Queen Supreme:
Reply@Keane’s Cat:
Sweetheart, you are in no position to judge anybody else’s wit! Keep dreaming kitty litter.
Reply@Tamara:
ReplyLMAO and you all think the media is honest.
Keane you are a self important ass. All the words in the OED fail to describe the complete and utter failure that is your life.@Keane Cyber Queen Supreme:
ReplyI read the whole boring article. I give Ian props on a couple of points. He did an excellent job of writing for his target audience. Its a very easy to read with simple language. To assure that his points are understood, he kept circling back to reiterate them, also an oft used tactic for adding length without adding content. He makes sure to get his self promotion in the first few paragraphs before the majority of readers lose interest. He even drops a couple of names with broad accusations and insinuations late in the article as a treat for those who stick around, and incentive to keep reading the regurgitated
Reply@Vittoria:
ReplyShameless. Blood on the hands of everyone who tries to profit from death.
Dear Ian – thanks for that article – I found it enjoyable, interesting and compassionate. So, his “doctor” is not a doctor! Well, that explains his sudden disappearance from the scene (of the crime?) There wll be an investigation into “Dr. Tohme Tohme” I guarantee it! And MJ has 200 unpublished songs for his kids! Dang, that is a fortune. Everyone in the world is going to be fighting over possession of those children – everyone!
ReplyKeane, take this with the good humor I mean for it –
ReplyI used to not like you too much, first impression, of course. I now just picture a lil old lady with 5 cats, and now you seem so quaint ! lol
@Keane’s Cat:
From you dear, that’s a compliment! It would be devastated to have your good opinion. Keep drinking from the toilet petal.
Reply@unknownxcat:
Yep, you have me pegged, only I won’t be a little old lady for another 50 or so years and I do not like pets. Other than that you hit the nail on the head. And no of course I didn’t take your comment in the wrong way, the feeling has always been mutual!
Reply@Meah:
ReplyIsn’t that the point of Journalism: Concise, effective writing that the masses will understand ?
@Keane Cyber Queen Supreme:
ReplyLOL, good deal.
@unknownxcat:
ReplyThe point of this kind of journalism is to create and disseminate the message and then keep repeating it until the drooling masses begin to repeat it as truth, then make sure it is credited to you/the author. That is why it is called propaganda.
@unknownxcat:
ReplyWay to miss the point sweetie. Ask Keane to explain it to you. After all, she was the Head Beverage Procurement Specialist at BBC which imparted vast amounts of journalistic knowledge that I’m sure she would be happy to explain in 59 paragraphs for your reading pleasure.
@Keane Cyber Queen Supreme:
ReplyWhat do you base that statement on?
Ian is going to be in the Globe this weekend, supposedly. Big bucks there.
ReplyShe pulled it fresh from her ass. That is also where her logic and ability to reason reside. Keane is a very special kind of lady.@MaeIAsk:
Reply@Keane’s Cat:
Now, now, try not to be jealous. Did someone forget to de-flea you again? I know that infernal itching can make one sound quite like the bitter old mangey tom hey? Nevermind sweetheart, I’m sure you’ll get dropped off back at the cat’s home any day soon now. One day you’ll find an owner who loves you and remembers to delouse you I promise you that. I didn’t like to mention it, but you really are beginning to smell quite foul. Do us all a favour and try to stay away from all those other cats’ bottoms you’re so fond of for a day or two hey? There, there, there’s a good kitty witty.
Reply@Keane Cyber Queen Supreme:
ReplyKeane, your lips are brown from kissing Ian’s ass.
@MaeIAsk:
Your little comment to me the day before yesterday. It was stupid, insensitive and in no way “decent”. So that basically.
Reply@MaeIAsk:
Whatever sweetheart, whatever gets you through the day.
Reply@Keane Cyber Queen Supreme:
ReplyHey Keane, you crazy paranoid beotch – I haven’t been on this site let alone posted anything here for at least a week
@Keane Cyber Queen Supreme:
ReplyKitty Witty, lol
@unknownxcat:
ReplyUh huh. How very altruistic of Ian to tell the world the truth about MJ. Yet Ian completely ignored this board as we implored him to pay attention to this site and the flames and all of the other problems here. Money sure talks loudly doesn’t it Ian? Much more sound coming from the lure of easy money than from your readers who show up every day on this blog asking you to communicate with us. Really. This is an insult to the readers and posters here after all of the BS that has gone on here recently. My question remains, why is your version of the truth so completely different from Maureen Orth’s who has writtten “the truth” about MJ for 12 years? Whose version of “the truth” is the truth? Ian’s story is simply a red herring, there is no news here. It is all self aggrandizement after the fact for profit. Again, poorly played, Ian.
Does anyone around right now agree that MJ’s kids couldn’t possibly be his? I haven’t seen this brought up in the media, and already mentioned once on this thread.
ReplyOK if you hate Ian and Keane and all the other crazy butt kissing douchebags – if you really want to get “even” with them all – STOP coming to this site – STOP letting Keane bate you into argumentative posts. Every time you click on this site, or leave a comment it HELPS Ian boost his web ratings – check it out at Alexa Web Ratings, all kinds of info. If we want Ian to just go away (at least as far as this site is concerned) IGNORE THIS SITE – DO NOT COME HERE ANYMORE.
Reply@MaeIAsk:
MaeIAsk said on June 25th, 2009 at 5:18 pm
Reply@Keane Cyber Queen Supreme:
you don’t know anything – you only think you do. where’d you get your medical degree?
@unknownxcat:
ReplyHe was the custodial parent therefore they are his. Whatever test tube or other way they may have been created is not that relevant unless Debbie Rowe goes for custody. As an aside, while on CNN this weekend they showed images of all 3 children (faces veiled) and they all have sort of a slack jawed, puzzled look. Like they are sort of dee duh dee.
@MaeIAsk:
ReplyBut then, they would miss the free meow mix and tuna sammiches in the lobby.
In other celebrity death news, Billy Mays, the two bit Oxyclean hack has died in Tampa. I will miss him on TV Pitchmen since he “wipes with authority.”
Reply@unknownxcat:
Ha ha! Yes I think it’s pretty certain they’re aren’t his. The kids aren’t mixed race as far as I can see, in fact they all had white blonde hair when they were young. That’s where the rumour comes from about MC I would wager.
ReplyMays, 50, was on board a US Airways flight that blew out its front tires as it landed at a Tampa airport on Saturday, MyFOXTampa.com reported.
US Airways spokesman Jim Olson said that none of the 138 passengers and five crew members were injured in the incident, but several passengers reported having bumps and bruises, according to the station.
Authorities have not said whether Mays’ death was related to the incident.
Probably unrelated as in no conspiracy here. I would guess post flight pulmonary embolism.
Reply@Constant Gardener:Or the same thing that happened to Steve Allen, who was in a minor fender bender, went over to his son’s for dinner lay down and died – an artery feeding the heart detached.
Reply@Different Guest:
TMZ quoting him yesterday saying he took a hard hit to the head in the airplane incident. Yeah, sounds a lot like Natasha Richardson. I smell a lawsuit against the airline coming. From the article:
Mays had just returned from Philadelphia, where he shot a new OxiClean commercial. He was a passenger aboard a plane that suffered a blown front tire upon landing. He told a local TV station, “All of a sudden as we hit you know it was just the hardest hit, all the things from the ceiling started dropping. It hit me on the head, but I got a hard head.”
We’re told Mays was at his home around 6:00 PM last night, and according to a source Mays was “acting fine and normal … he was talking business with his father-in-law.”
Reply@Constant Gardener:And now the FAA is saying he wasn’t wearing his seatbelt, getting hit in the head with something falling does not relate to not wearing the seat belt.
Reply@Keane Cyber Queen Supreme:
ReplyIf he legally adopted them (assuming he is not the father HA), either he used an anonymous sperm donor, or the father signed over custody, or father unknown. I tend to think anonymous donor, but you never know.
Don’t get me wrong, I am hoping those kids get into a stable environment ASASP, with as little bickering over custody as possible. With that in mind, is it a good idea for these kids to be around the grandfather, who was the one that battered their father and basically started his downfall? OR…are MJ’s parents divorced, and just the grandmother would have custody perhaps?
Oh, the life of the rich and famous (and deceased)… so complicated.
AND…lol… why wouldn’t MJ *want* to use his own sperm?? Was he that repulsed by his own …family, race, life, etc ? hmm
ReplyHm not sure what the deal is really, I’m sure it will all come out in not too long a time. It might either have been an annonymous doner or someone he knew personally, but if it was the former I’m wondering about the ethics of the doctor (for a big change). As in adoptions don’t they normally try to match the racial profile of the kids to that of the parent(s)? He must have opted to have white children in my view, again probably waving some money at someone. And as for where they’ll go now, God knows and none of the options sound good at the moment. They don’t know their bio mother well and she relinquished her rights to them for cash. The grandmother won’t have long left herself and coping with another death will not be good for them at all (I believe she is divorced from MJ’s father, but I don’t know for sure). And I think that nanny who was interviewed by the NOTW is a shady character. She’s the one with ties to the Nation of Islam who is said to exert an undue degree of influence over Michael and kept being sacked. I’m not sure about her at all. Seems like the only person who genuinely cares for the children would be the grandmother or one of MJ’s siblings but it doesn’t sound like the kids know them very well either. What a sorry, messed up life they seem to have had and probably will continue to have in the future. Sad.
Reply@unknownxcat:No, the grandfather is still married to the granmother, the grandmother is 79 and the grandfather is at least that old. If Debbie Rowe doesn’t want the kids, they’d be better of with one of Michael’s siblings, the oldest sister and one brother both have stable lives, never divorced and raised their own kids.
Reply@Keane Cyber Queen Supreme:You have to wonder how well they know the grandmother, if he had little contact with his family. It must be very difficult for them right now to dropped amongst people they barely know. If it’s true they’ve never been to school or played with other children it is going to be a very tough row to hoe.
Reply@Different Guest:
ReplyDamage control by the airline. Also, I call bullshit. The surly post 911 stews are responsible for the safety of passengers and they have no problem enforcing the seatbelt rule. Even more bullshit if he was sitting in first where they only have a dozen or so passengers that they (stews) need to make compliant.
@Constant Gardener:
ReplyPS If he was hit on the head by flying debris or luggage, what difference would a seatbelt have made? Damage control all the way.
@Different Guest:
Question is though, who do they actually know? From the nanny’s interview in the NOTW it seems like the only people they really know are staff. She says they had a cold and distant relationship with their father, weren’t allowed to play with other children or even had a teacher. She says they called her mum. Now from what Ian says about her she sounds like she sees them as a meal ticket to me and is the one who got the Nation of Islam involved, so she doesn’t sound like an ideal prospective surrogate parent! I would think that someone like Jermaine would be their best option but he already has about 7 kids doesn’t he? Would he add another 3 to that mix? I think the bio mother will fight it out with MJ’s family and I sincerely hope that whoever gets them in the end is in it for the right reasons and not the cash.
Reply@Constant Gardener:
ReplyThey love to swim in the shallow end of the gene pool. Coincidentally, Keane loves diving.
@Constant Gardener:That’s what I thought too. Of course he could have died of a heart attack.
Reply@Keane Cyber Queen Supreme:I looked it up both Rebbie and Marlon are in long term first marriages, each has already raised three kids, one of them or even Janet would probably be best.
Reply@Keane Cyber Queen Supreme:
ReplyIt is weird. MJ converted to Islam however the Nation of Islam is a separatist movement (from mainstream Islam). It would appear that the NOI thugs he kept around him were not unlike what we see with Scientology with the celebs and their Sciento minders. Let us hope that in all the craziness of the MJ machine, he did create a protected trust for his children and asserted who he desired their guardians to be in the event of his death. It has been mentioned that he had a will but it was out of date.
Yes, MJ was the custodial father, and the father they know, no qualms about that, but there is a lot of money involved here – not unlike the Anna Nicole custody disputes, if the bio sperm donor wasn’t from a bank, no telling who could come out of the woodwork. I was thinking what a circus this COULD be for a long time. I do hope I’m wrong.
Reply@ CG and Different Guest
This is interesting re: who will get the kids:
http://www.mirror.co.uk/celebs/news/2009/06/28/michael-jackson-s-heartbroken-kids-say-we-miss-daddy-115875-21476862/
Sounds like mother’s in it for the cash, they know their grandmother better but she may not be deemed a suitable parent considering Michael’s upbringing, and then there’s the dubious nanny. Doesn’t sound like any of the siblings are being considered, although they sound like much the better option. Poor kids, what a depressing list of options.
Reply@Constant Gardener:When it comes to child custody a will does not have to be followed. It’s up to the Judge to determine what’s in the best interests of the children. That said, a surviving biological parent first dibs, unless there is some compelling reason not to grant them custody, if they want it, they get it. In this case, I think Nation of Islam can kiss off getting their grubby little paws on the kids. Jesse Jackson is not going to allow that to happen.
Reply@Constant Gardener:
ReplyLet’s hope that if he had the presence of mind to bequeath the children 200 unpublished songs, he also had a stipulation for custody – if he did have a sense of mortality as Ian (and LIsa Marie Presley) has stated.
@Different Guest:
ReplyYes. However, it may turn out that rowe the ho is up to the task. US family courts like to place children with the next of kin as often as they can. I believe that since her parental rights were never terminated, she is considered the next of kin even though she was not the custodial parent. What a mighty battle this will be. I really hope that nutbag MJ had the mental clarity to make plans for his childrens’ guardianship in the event of his death. Somehow though, considering how very untidy all of his affairs were when he was living, I doubt that he that he did.
This is also interesting:
http://www.mirror.co.uk/celebs/news/2009/06/28/first-target-of-jackson-s-obsession-with-boys-says-what-he-did-was-wrong-but-i-forgive-him-115875-21476871/
Reply@Keane Cyber Queen Supreme:The kids are probably still afraid of Joe. Anyone know who all lives at the Encino compound?
Reply@Constant Gardener:
Agreed, MJ is responsible to a large degree, but on the other hand, fame and the insecurity that was MJ, caused him to choose the friends, lifestyle he did, and the opportunists didn’t need an invite. They saw an insecure, relative simple, manipulative person who never took any responsibilty for his life or actions, waiting to be taken advantage of. They did take advantage of him, his family, friends, network of colleagues. In the end, there was little he could trust and of course, in order to change it would require work an admission of responsbilty, guilt and a plan, complete with follow through and integrity on a new path he would need to take. Michael was immature and didn’t realize, he held the key, there was no one that was going to come around and save him. On the other side of that coin, the docs are also very responsible for killing him, as they did Anna Nicole Smith, Elvis Presley, and who knows how many more. This needs to be stopped. People need to be more honest.
Sounds like many of Jackson’s friends, family, wanted money from him, so they’re not going to be honest with him. Jackson wouldnt’ want to hear honesty; particularly not in the latter years he had a fragile ego. In order to get healthy a person has to have a lot of honest people in his or her life. They need to be accountable for themselves, taking an honest look at themselves, continuously learning, understanding, changing and growing, but they also need help from others. No man is an island and you can’t do it all by yourself.
The flip side; his family could have intervened. Most people who are sick, or have addicitons, it has been the whole family that was dysfunctional. They’re usually a bunch of yes people along with an abuser. Usually when a family gets healthy by working through problems, communicating, getting help, the sick person also gets healthy – as the level of understandign and communication changes. An unhealthy drug, alcohol, sex, gambling addicted person is that way, because no one is consistently honest with them. They’re too afraid of loss and how others perceive them.
Reply@unknownxcat:
Yep I bet he said their grandmother but I’m not sure that would mean she would necessarily get them. Isn’t it up to the courts to decide what would be in their best interests?
Reply@Keane Cyber Queen Supreme:Yes. See my previous post.
Reply@John:
I think the family – apart from Janet – were mainly all dependent on MJ for cash. That’s going to get in the way of him ever getting a whole lot of honesty in my view.
Reply@Different Guest:
Jesse Jackson is hardly the go to guy in determining children of unknown or unclaimed parentage or who should raise said children. LOL.
If guardianship of the children is stipulated in a will, they will order as such unless to do so causes harm or risk to them. Someone would have to contest that in court that MJ’s desires for his own children be subjugated. In other words a judge can’t just say, yeah screw the will and the decedents intentions. It will have to be challenged legally. It is the executor or executrix of the will who will be expected to make these things happen obo the decedent.
Reply@Constant Gardener:When there is another biological parent alive, it doesn’t matter what the custodial parent wants – unless the other biological parent agrees to it. Unless there is clear and compelling evidence as to why the other parent should not have custody – and not having a relationship with kids, is not compelling evidence, they get the kid. There are many, many cases where Mom has died, Dad is estranged from the children and he still gets custody.
ReplyWith an addiction, sometimes you just have to GET AWAY from the dysfunction, walking away from abusive pasts and any connection to the addiction. I would imagine it would be VERY hard for MJ (or anyone with that level of worldwide celebrity) to go ANYWHERE where there wouldn’t be someone who recognizes him and takes advantage of the situation. Plus, who wants to leave EVERYONE and everything when you are rich and can get anything at your disposal? It’s just too surreal an existence, normal ways of “healing” yourself are just not practical. IMO, of course.
Reply@Constant Gardener:Supposedly that’s what Debbie Rowe is going to do and if she does, she will probably get custody. Re:Jesse Jackson, he’s ingratiated himself with Katherine and Joe and will be pulling strings to get them named guardians.
Reply@John:
ReplyThe sad thing is that in HW honesty and greed cannot exist on the same continuum. Look at the howls when Britney Spears’ father intervened. In retrospect, he likely saved her life.
@Different Guest:
ReplyYes, however, this scenario does not contemplate what arrangements and preferences MJ may have made for his children and regardless of what those turn out to be, if any, it is the duty of the court and the executor to see that the wishes of the decedent are upheld unless there is a 3rd party challenge or unless doing so breaks the law or poses a danger to the minor children. If there was no will then the laws of intestate succession for the state of CA will likely supercede. The court and the executor will be expected to uphold the wishes of the decedent’s will. They can’t do shit unless someone comes in and challenges it. I have no doubt someone will.
@Different Guest:
ReplyYeah, that is why I am saying if MJ did not make arrangements, Debbie Rowe as the non custodial parent is next of kin bc her parental rights were not legally terminated. If he did make arrangements then she can challenge them on the basis of being next of blood kin.
@Constant Gardener:
I heard that he may have worked his way through quite a bit of her cash too though. Don’t know for sure, it was something someone said on here in response to one of Ian’s posts which mentioned her. They said the story that she’d worked her way through $10 million was to conceal the fact that it was her father and a friend who had siphoned it off. It sounded like a journo, as they asked to speak to Ian on or off the record (Ian was doing a book on Spears at one point I believe). Might have been a fake though, who knows.
Reply@Constant Gardener:
ReplyGlad you brought that up – Britney’s father gets alot of flack in the media about the amount of money he requests for taking care of Britney. IMO, he EARNS every bit of it. Keeping the vultures at bay and taking care of a famous bipolar young daughter, keeping finances together and making sure reliable people are around his daughter, so that his daughter and grandkids will have SOMETHING someday, sounds like a job with which I’d never want to take.
@Keane Cyber Queen Supreme:
ReplyNot too hard to believe. Not at all. At the same time, she was on the verge of doing herself in. So even if Daddy siphoned off money, I do believe that his intervention kept her alive. Can’t be killing off the golden goose after all.
@unknownxcat:
For $2500 a week? In this economy?! I’d take it! And I wouldn’t siphon off any extra while Briters was too dosed up on her meds to notice either. Britters, give me a ring, let’s cut that old dude loose!
ReplyHave a nice day Keane and Clitorria. I’m going to go and live my life. I would invite you both but my hybrid doesn’t handle wide loads.
ReplyJordie Chandler is apparently retracting his accusations, saying it was all a lie. Not sure if this is a hoax or not so buyer beware.
What a brilliant marketing strategy for Sony. Pay off the kids again and sell a billion more records now that MJ is vindicated in death.
I believe MJ was guilty of perving out on the little boys.
Reply@Keane Cyber Queen Supreme:
ReplyLOL… well ya thats a pretty good salary. But we do not know all the details, either. You would earn the salary, that is for sure !
@Constant Gardener:Not with children, if the noncustodial parent wants the kids, unless there is clear and compelling evidence otherwise that parent will get them. I used to work in that field and saw it happen over and over again. In this case, I wouldn’t be surprised if she’s bought off.
Reply@Constant Gardener:Did you read the article that Keane posted about the guy they think was his first victim? Apparently there were others as well that never sought settlements or pressed charges.
Reply@Different Guest:It’s pursuit of happiness, includes the right raise your children.
Reply@Different Guest:
ReplyMaureen Orth documents this well and extensively in the VF series. I am appalled at the culture or celebrity worship surrounding the death of yet another HW freak. Talent does not supercede freakishness and child molestation. OJ was acquitted too.
@Different Guest:
ReplyI believe we are in general agreement.
@Constant Gardener:What really torks me is the people who were hiring the Jackson 5 had to know how abusive Joe Jackson was and never stepped in protect those children, then. If they had, might have been a very different story.
We’ve become a very shallow society. It’s the pablum for the masses. Keep them occupied over here and they won’t see what we’re doing over there.
As a friend of mine pointed out elsewhere, and got nailed for it, acquittal does not equal innocence. That’s why I got fed up with the law, it’s not about truth and justice but about winning at all costs.
Reply@Different Guest:Meant to add winning at all costs, including child custody.
Reply@Different Guest:
ReplyYou forget that in the US, Mommy Government has set legal precedent that Mommy Government may determine that ANY child is the property of the state. Even if both parents are living and together. Just to throw out a wild card.
@Different Guest:
ReplyI know that’s right. The “law” is a joke. The law is meant to protect the state, not the citizens.
@Different Guest:
ReplyEd Sullivan? Andy Williams? Who cared? The kids were a flipping money machine.
@Constant Gardener:That’s a lot rarer than people will have you believe. It’s far more common for the state to fail to act when a child is in danger. I have mixed feelings about the medical issue and choice of treatment.
The child labor laws in the entertainment industry are a joke. If you look at the child actors who have grown in adults reasonably unscathed what they had in common was that their parents were parents first, and often were not dependent on the children’s incomes to support the family.
Reply@Constant Gardener:
ReplyLike Kate & Jon. blah.
Brilliant reporting.
Replyi read your blog daily and thought of your prediction immediately when I heard the news.
@Different Guest:
ReplyI have first hand experience. It is not that rare, it is the default position of the court and DHS/CPS whichever advocating agency for parents they deem “non compliant”. It is not limited to medical treatment at all.
@Constant Gardener:Sorry meant two separate issues, was the thinking about the boy wanting to refuse chemo. Re:CPS may be true once they are in the system, but I’ve too many cases that there was no intervention when their should have been. The average tenure of a CPS social worker is 18 months and they are usually fresh out of grad school. Bottom line is this country has never valued children and it never it will. We were the last industrialized nation to enact child labor laws and there still are not laws re:family farms. The machinery used on farms is so much more sophisticated now that children under 16 should not be operating them.
Reply@Different Guest:
ReplyNever valued children, or our elderly.
@unknownxcat:
ReplyBut then again, I’ve been called a socialist, lol.
http://www.dlisted.com/node/32722
ReplyHey, looky here, a few answers !
http://www.newsoftheworld.co.uk/news/381773/Mother-of-Michael-Jackons-children-Debbie-Rowe-confesses-he-was-not-their-father.html
Debbie Rowe just revealed she was artificially inseminated (big shocker there)
http://entertainment.timesonline.co.uk/tol/arts_and_entertainment/music/article6591123.ece
Replywhile a former nanny says that Jacko had a problem with pills (another big shocker)
@unknownxcat:
That’s one down then, who do we have left? Grandma and Grandpa Jackson who probably have about a maximum of 10 years left on this earth, or nanny “Nation of Islam” who sounds about as genuinely interested in the best interests of the kids as Sam Lufti was in the best interests of the our Brit. Ok well I’m still crossing my fingers for one of the siblings, it’s their only real hope. And we thought Brangelina’s kids had it bad!
Reply@Keane Cyber Queen Supreme:
ReplyI know a few of the Jackson siblings have had issues, but we forget there were members that dropped out of the entertainment business, out of the limelight. If they are willing (and who wouldn’t be for their brother?), seems this would be the wisest choice. Reports are, they want to be with Grandma, and she could, of course, still be a major part of their lives.
I always worry about the KIDS in these Hollyweird situations.
I had read an interview earlier in which the closely associated with Jackson person said that Blanket is thought to be Michael’s biological son; he looks like Michael, and shows Michae’s talent for song and dance. I found that very interesting, as so many reports just blow Blanket off as unimportant. I hope someone does a DNA on the boy to verify this or it will hang over his head the rest of his life.
ReplyI’m glad to read that IAN also didn’t believe that Michael molested those boys. Michael was a child / man who longed for acceptance, and love, and unfortunately only seemed to find it from children who are so pure in their acceptance of others. As Michael said once, Children don’t find me weird, they accept me as one of them. How sad a life he lived. I hope the Jackson family has to work their tails off now to live in the manner in which they became accustomed from hand-outs from Michael
@Constant Gardener:
ReplyAndy Williams is an Ann Coulter fan. Lovely
@unknownxcat:
ReplyWell at least Debbie is being honest (if that is her point of view). Kids are hard work and a lot of commitment. It is far less selfish to admit that you’re too selfish or you know you would suck as a parent.
i have a question Ian: how much?
ReplyHey IAN, reading the updates, interesting, thanks for linking those. Is there one on Friday, any news on what happened there, hope all went well with that.
Congrats on the article. With it making the rounds and the scores of people at the practice and the video tape , should be interesting considering all his handlers knew he could not sing and sold him out for concerts anyway. This could end up a movie of the week, how he was manipulated to do these concerts. jmo
Reply@Different Guest:
ReplyI believe she will not get the kids. She will get a big fat check and walk away like she did before. Wonderful mother, truly loving
Fox news reporting that MJ’s doctor says : He never inserted anything into MJ that day, and that MJ still had a pulse when paramedic arrived…
Reply@unknownxcat:
Reply…. revolting , anything coming from that woman’s mouth
@Keane Cyber Queen Supreme:
…doesn’t that make the AJ/BP family arrangement look like the Trapp Family ?
Reply@Ms Agatha:
Defo, and we thought that was a desperate situation! Give me the team of nannies and occasional contact with parents at photo opps over this sorry state of affairs any day. And that’s saying something!
Reply@Keane Cyber Queen Supreme:
…. and Shi, the twins, and the other 3 (hope I didn’t leave any out) never had to wear a veil …and get to see other people’s kids once in a while at least…see AJ parental skills in a better light already…
Reply@Ms Agatha:
Yes but I suppose MJ and his 3 namesakes didn’t make tens of millions of quids off of selling themselves as the perfect family huh. I don’t think anyone would have voted MJ as parent of the year in any context. He was weird and messed up but he wasn’t a hypocrite, at least not in that sense. But yeah, I would still prefer to be in family Von Brange than family Very Peculiar Jackson any day!
Reply@Ms Agatha:
ReplyVery interesting Ms Agatha, but i remember the 911 caller on tape saying Jackson was non-responsive, and had no pulse….
Great Article Ian. I feel bad for people who are in MJ’s position – once you’re where he has been you never know who your real friends are an it’s easy to get in over your head. There are some tough people in this world who manipulate, use, abuse, and take from others. I feel like MJ’s rollercoaster is something many celebs have to deal with to some degree. It’s unfortunate that so many people feed into the media which pushes more and more press and demands on those who original intention was to entertain. My heart goes out to his children and those people who truly loved him and tried to make a difference. God bless them all in this time. Shame shame on those who have put pressure on him in order to improve their bottom line. *waives finger*
Reply@Patty Anne:
yeah… somebody trying to safe their a*s here…if he did or didn’t inject and when, can be easily determined
They are just reporting that MJ last rehearsal (the day before) has been filmed , and they are thinking to making it into a CD and/or TV program
Reply@Keane Cyber Queen Supreme:
Reply…and stupid me, I always thought I have missed out in life because I didn’t get to live the HW high life as a kid… lol…. what little did I know…. thanks paps !
http://communities.canada.com/montrealgazette/blogs/stageandpage/archive/2009/06/28/court-injunction-re-guy-lalibert-233-bio-maclean-s-apology-to-cirque-du-soleil-and-michael-jackson-bio.aspx
Reply@Constant Gardener:
Very true. Britney’s fathers intervention did saver her life. I don’t expect she’d be alive today if he hadn’t intervened. There were people who wanted her money, and her out of he picture it appeared. They were using, abusing her, and taking advantage of her vulnerabilty and drug induced state. They most likely didn’t think anyone woudl or be able to do anything to stop them. More familiies should get involved and take similar action. More doctors, hospitals should support families getting assistance.
ReplyIanThe manner you make the advertising of your book by using the death of MJ is disgusting.
ReplyInjunction re Guy Laliberté Bio, Maclean’s Sorry to Cirque, Michael Jackson Bio,
By Pat Donnelly 06-28-2009 COMMENTS(0) Stage and Page with Pat Donnelly
Filed under: Cirque du Soleil, Guy Laliberté, Maclean’s, Ian Halperin, Pierre Turgeon, Michael Jackson
Maclean’s magazine has apologized to the Cirque du Soleil, sort of. In last week’s edition, on page 9 (don’t blink or you’ll miss it), there’s an editor’s note that recognizes the Cirque’s complaint about the June 15, 2009 cover page, which boasted the headline: “Cirque du Soleil Sex, Drugs & Acrobats: A stunning exposé of the biggest show on earth and its billionaire founder”.
But the magazine’s carefully worded statement takes issue with the accusation that it has given ” a false, unjust and defamatory image of the company.”
The note continues: “Maclean’s does not agree with that characterization –the cover image was in fact available on the Cirque’s own website — and we recognize that the Cirque is a great Canadian creative institution. We are unabashed fans of its work. Halperin’s book is an unauthorized biography of Guy Laliberté. The excerpts of the book that were published in the magazine refer to past events and do not necessarily reflect upon the Cirque du Soleil itself as an ongoing business enterprise or on its current employees.”
Was that an apology? Well, at least it does recognize that the Cirque du Soleil, as a business, and its employees, should not have to answer for the off-duty antics (of many years ago) of its founder and owner Guy Laliberté.
(I was going to link to the full text of the editor’s note, only I couldn’t find it on the Maclean’s website. Perhaps this reflects more on my lack of technological skills than its actual absence.)
As for the unauthorized bio by Ian Halperin, titled The Fabulous Story of the Creator of the Cirque du Soleil, it’s not going to be easily located in the bookstores, as of Monday morning. (It was still available in a major downtown bookstore on Saturday.)
The Cirque du Soleil sent out a press release this weekend stating that, on Friday afternoon, it had received a “provisional injunction and safeguard order” regarding a recall on all copies of the bio published by Transit Editeur Inc.
The reason? The unauthorized use of a copyrighted Cirque du Soleil photo on the cover. See story by Jan Ravensbergen in today’s Gazette.
What a foolish mistake on the part of Transit publisher, Pierre Turgeon! Everyone knows that the Cirque guards the copyright of its images with a fervour equal to that of the Disney corporation. (Just try messing with Mickey Mouse!) The Cirque picture was picked up from the souvenir program of Alegria. This is something that no rookie newspaper editor would do. Halperin must be mightily annoyed that Turgeon let him down.
He has certainly made it clear he isn’t happy with Laliberté: See Gazette story re letter of demand.
Now Transit has to recall all unsold copies of the book and provide a new cover – for both the French and English editions. (The purloined Cirque photo stands alone on the English edition, while it accompanies a photo of Laliberté on the French edition.) Not much can be done about the 16,000 copies of the French edition and 6,000 of the English edition already sold. This weekend Guy Laliberté: La vie fabuleuse de créateur du Cirque du Soleil rated number six on the Gazette’s bestseller list for French Books.
On the positive side for Halperin and for Turgeon, as you can see from Ravensbergen’s Gazette story, their next book, an unauthorized biography of Michael Jackson, will be launched this week, by Transit. This book is titled, presciently, Michael Jackson: The Last Days. Six months ago Halperin predicted that Jackson would be dead within 6 month. As he has just boasted on his website ianundercover.com, he was only off by a day.
Since Halperin is adding an update pertaining to the star’s death, it seems likely that the English edition of the Jackson book will precede the French version into Quebec bookstores.
Now let’s hope that Turgeon has checked out the copyright of any photos used on the cover or within the Jackson book. Another blooper of this magnitude, he does not need.
ReplyGreat article, Ian!
ReplyAs such things happen, he will gain more popularity than if he lived a normal life span, for him.
Speaking for myself, another celebrity’s death was far more deeply felt; so I can understand what Madonna and Diana Ross are going through.
*****************BREAKING*******************
Police have launched a criminal investigation into Michael Jackson’s death, it’s been revealed.
Jackson family lawyer Brian Oxman has said that although the police are publicly saying that the star’s death isn’t being treated as suspicious, privately, they’ve said otherwise.
Mr Oxman said: “This is a new development, there is a criminal investigation taking place by the Los Angeles Police Deparment. This is the case. They have told the family.”
As we reported earlier today, Jacko’s personal doctor, cardiologist Dr Conrad Murray, was questioned for a second time at the weekend by LA detectives. They say he has been questioned as a witness and not a suspect.
Officers said he was co-operative and “provided information which will aid the investigation”.
Mr Oxman said that the Jackson would launch their own legal battle if police failed to charge anyone in connection with the King Of Peop’s death,
http://www.mirror.co.uk/celebs/news/2009/06/29/michael-jackson-s-death-is-subject-of-a-criminal-investigation-115875-21480331/
MORE IS GOING ON THAN WHAT IS BEING REPORTED!
Reply*****************BREAKING*******************
POLICE HAVE LAUNCHED A CRIMINAL INVESTIGATION INTO MICHAEL JACKSON’S DEATH, IT’S BEEN REVEALED.
Jackson family lawyer Brian Oxman has said that although the police are publicly saying that the star’s death isn’t being treated as suspicious, privately, they’ve said otherwise.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/celebs/news/2009/06/29/michael-jackson-s-death-is-subject-of-a-criminal-investigation-115875-21480331/
MORE IS GOING ON THAN WHAT IS BEING REPORTED!
ReplyTHE family of Michael Jackson yesterday ordered a second autopsy on the singer’s body before accusing his personal doctor of a cover-up.
The extraordinary move came as more allegations emerged of Jackson’s long-term addiction to painkillers, including from his children’s nanny.
“The doctor’s bizarre behaviour here is creating all these suspicions,” said Jackson family minister, the Reverend Jesse Jackson.
“They are suspicious of this doctor and they have real reason to be because any other doctor would say ‘here’s what happened in the last hour of his life and I was there. I gave him some medicine’.”
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THIS DOC ALSO HAS A QUESTIONABLE BACKGROUND, MANY LAWSUITS AGAINST HIM, NOT SOMEONE OU WOULD WANT LOOKING AFTER OR TAKING CARE OF YOU. HE APPEARS TO BE AN OPPORTUNIST WITH A VERY MESSY BACKGROUND.
ReplyJohn said on June 29th, 2009 at 7:22 am
THE family of Michael Jackson yesterday ordered a second autopsy on the singer’s body before accusing his personal doctor of a cover-up.
http://www.news.com.au/couriermail/story/0,23739,25704342-5012980,00.html
Michael Jackson weighed 112 pounds at death, paper reports; four needle wounds found near heart
The Sun of London report painted a tragic picture of a 50-year-old man so frail he weighed only 112 pounds and whose stomach contained no food – just semidigested pills.
Several of Jackson’s ribs were broken in the frantic attempt to pump life back into his heart. Four needle wounds were near his heart, apparently from failed efforts to restart it by shooting adrenaline directly into the organ.
Jackson had lost most of his hair, and his haggard face was disfigured by 13 plastic surgeries, The Sun said.
His emaciated hips, thighs and shoulders were riddled with needle marks, the paper said.
http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/michael_jackson/2009/06/28/2009-06-28_jackson_weighed_112_pounds_at_death.html#ixzz0Joz54XJv&D
http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/michael_jackson/2009/06/28/2009-06-28_jackson_weighed_112_pounds_at_death.html#ixzz0JoygMtJe&D
WHY WAS THIS DOCTOR NOT FEEDING MICHAEL WHO WAS OBVIOUSLY ANOREXIC
Replyany reason why Jeremy Piven was @ the BET Awards and Rihanna was a no-show there?
Reply@Different Guest:
ReplyNah. My stepmom w CPS has been fucking up families lives for years. 25 years to be exact. The US is obsessed with children. Frankly, I think it is way overboard. I see nothing wrong with kids working on the family farm. Honestly I don’t. I grew up that way, the kids I grew up with did, everyone turned out ok, no one got their eye shot out, LOL. I deal with human rights issues in countries where the US imports products. Children are slave labor in many countries for the benefit of the US consumer. I don’t see anyone stepping up to protect those children, children who aren’t milking cows or bailing hay on the family farm but who are beaten and starved so the we may all have a cheap gadget. Factories are inspected and bribed and the machine moves on. Why is there no outrage about these children?
@Constant Gardener:We’ll just have to agree to disagree. As for the family farm, part of my family does farm and one of their young hired hands had a leg ripped off on a farm machine. The machinery used now to farm is complex and requires greater judgment and skill to operate than a child has.
Reply@Keane Cyber Queen Supreme:“doner” hahahahahahaha
Donor – you self aggrandizing twat!
Reply@John:
John. John. John. Seems you don’t understand Anorexia Nervosa and Body Dysmorphic Disorder are mental health disorders?
Curing Anorexia Nervosa involves a lot more than feeding.
Cheeze John. Google. Is. YOUR. Friend. Why didn’t you bother googling that before making a total arse of yourself? You just blew any credibility you may have had.
But then again, even a simpleton can cut and paste these days.
Ta ra.
Reply@Different Guest:
ReplyOur individual opinions are always framed by our life experiences-so yes, ATD, no harm no foul:)
@The Tom Cat:
Hahahahahhahahhaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
“Self-aggrandizing” has a hyphen in it you wannabe superior ignorant f*ck. Dictionaries. Are. YOUR. Friend.
You just blew away any credibility you may have had.
But then again, even a simpleton can post abuse on a gossip blog these days.
Ta ra.
Reply@John:
ReplyAre you of the thinking that he was euthanized?
@Vittoria:
That’s something I considered as well. But if that had been the intention why would he have fled the scene in a panic? Wouldn’t it have been planned a bit more carefully than that?
Reply@Keane Cyber Queen Supreme:
I think I’d flee to if I’d just off’d somebody. I don’t know. that’s one of the new rumors now.
If you were someone’s doctor and were there when they called 911, why would you leave at all? Whatever credibility the man had (which I don’t think was much), was shot the moment he took off. Why take off?
ReplyThis doctor isn’t even board certified.
Yeah! Bernie Madoff just got sentenced to 150 years. Now they should lock that wife of his up too. What a scum.
Must be off. Hope you have a good day everybody.
ReplyRight on!! my thoughts exactly!! I totally agree!
ReplyThe Spanish media is also quoting you:
http://www.lavanguardia.es/cultura/noticias/20090629/53734617756/un-biografo-afirma-que-michael-jackson-era-gay.html
Replyhttp://www.techbanyan.com/4554/jordan-chandler-admits-lied-about-michael-jackson/
Jordan Chandler, the “victim” in the first Michael Jackson molestation trial, is now coming forward saying that he and his powerbroker father concocted the story to get $$ out of Michael.
more info:
Replyhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3lVUvOLdg50
It is being reported by the Tampa Coroner that Billy Mays died of a pulmonary embolism as predicted. I would like to take this opportunity to invite the board to make certain that you get up and move around on long flights. You do not have to be a heart patient for this to happen to you. I believe BM had no previous symptoms of heart disease. Often, by the time you have symptoms of heart disease, you are either dead, dieing or the damage has been done to your heart muscle and it cannot be undone, only managed. So please everyone, get up and walk the aisle of the plane a time or two. And make sure your annual checkup includes screening for heart disease. Heart disease and heart failure (GROWING EPIDEMIC OF HEART FAILURE IN THE UNDER 65 CROWD INCLUDING ME) are extremely debilitating and sudden cardiac death is very real. Heart disease kills more women in the US than any other illness including cancer. Had they known about his heart disease, it is possible that a simple, cheap blood thinner would have prevented his death.
In flight embolisms seem to be more and more frequent and if this news was already posted upthread, apologies, I am at work and just checking in from time to time.
ReplyThis may sound silly but it is bugging me. Everyone in the world has been looking at those kids and going ‘hello MJ, you can’t bleach sperm ya know’ and now it looks like it will come out that he is not the bio dad. So, is him having been put on the birth certifcate fraud?Is it like an ilegal adoption? Could legally he lose custody post mortem and therefore his family would be out of the picture? Or am I talking bollocks- has been known. Too hot to think!
Reply@lizzieb:
I find that unlikely. It has always been obvious that the kids couldn’t be his so if there was anything untoward legally I’m sure someone would have flagged it up before now. Those kids all had blonde hair when they were little, there was no way they ever came from him! I don’t think that it is a possibility but like you say it is so hot here it’s difficult to grapple with these issues! What I do wonder though is why he chose to have a sperm donor, was it just to do with him wanting white children or was it because he had a genetic disease and didn’t want to pass it on? But if that was the only reason, why didn’t they racially match the donor? I don’t know about you but I’m watching Andy Murray at Wimbledon and trying to catch bits of the Madonna Malawian adoption of Mercy doc between games – much to concentrate on! All I have gathered so far is that it sounds like the charitable foundation Madonna is involved in, Raising Malawi, is a Kabbalah-based organisation who are trying to Kabbalah-ise the country. The govt are completely in bed with her, happy to receive her money and do her bidding. The courts are a joke, the judges didn’t even know Mercy had a father at the first hearing even though all the newspapers were reporting it. Developing…. ha ha!
Reply@Keane Cyber Queen Supreme:
ReplyHi Keane – sounds like you scoped Ian re Madonna!
@lizzieb:With the advent of sperm donation things have gotten a bit messy re parentage. It used to be a child born during a marriage was considered the husband’s no matter what. But CA law before passing the Uniform Parentage Act, said that the child had to be concieved during the marriage, he married Debbie Rowe when she was pregnant so if another father came forward it could get messy. Depending on where the last child was born, the laws of that country would govern. Adoption only comes into play if a surrogate is used with donor eggs. I have a relative who did egg donation, but because she conducted the pregnancy the children are considered hers. I hope they know who the biological father is in case any of the children ever become ill.
ReplyThe ‘Jordan Chandler admits he lied’ story currently circulating is a hoax, but I recommend anyone interested in understanding that first case reads Mary Fisher’s article “Was Michael Jackson Framed?” There are copies hosted in several places online. I remember reading this article back when it was published and changing my opinion from being uncertain, but believing Jackson was probably guilty, to believing he was innocent. With the more recent allegations, I’ve never felt I knew enough about the case to form a fair opinion. But I’ve gained a new interest in looking into this case, after hearing comments from friends who feel CERTAIN Jackson was guilty – yet know even less about the case than I did – and feel strongly he shouldn’t be remembered favorably.
I couldn’t help thinking that as much as I think it would be a travesty for him have gotten away with these crimes, it’s also awful if it’s completely untrue he was a pedophile and the world remembers him this way. True or not, my main problem with my friends’ reactions is that the latter possibility – condemning an innocent man, even if in reputation only – doesn’t seem to cross their minds as something that is also unacceptable, something to guard against as much as we should guard against instantly believing these kids are liars because you’re blinded by fandom. I don’t doubt there are a lot of people who have formed an opinion of his guilt after carefully reviewing all the evidence, but I think there are many like my friends, for whom two sets of allegations and Jackson being ‘weird’ are enough to make his guilt certain.
I find it really interesting that Ian believes Jackson is innocent because I was starting to lean that way having learned more about the second case and the lousy credibility of the Marvizos. It’s hard for me to believe that the allegations represent airtight evidence when they come from, of all the families of boys Jackson befriended, two families with very dodgy backgrounds. The Marvizos had a history of scamming, and Evan Chandler was recorded talking about plans to go after Jackson, before his son had even alleged abuse. Jordan Chandler’s allegations came only after his father and a dental colleague (also with a shady background) gave him an unnecessary drug, one known to cause extreme suggestibility and to even implant false memories. It’s also worth noting Jordan sued his father for severe, life-threatening physical abuse in later years.
ReplyTha@Keane Cyber Queen Supreme:
ReplyThey’re mostly Sunni Muslim aren’t they, with some Christianity from the days of British rule? That would take a little doing it would seem to turn them Jewish. I guess stranger things have happened.
I’m probably the last person in the universe to see this, but the BET red carpet interview with old man jackson is positively bizarre. here is a link if there is anyone other than me who hasn’t seen it.
curiouser and curiouser
http://www.dlisted.com/node?page=1
ReplyWas Michael Jackson Chemically Manipulated for Profit?
Anti pharma article that talks about celebrity, isolation and prescription drugs, very interesting:
http://www.naturalnews.com/026517_Michael_Jackson_drugs_pharmas.html
Reply@Gwen:
What do you make of the fact that two of the children who accused MJ of molestation accurately drew pictures of his penis including birth marks etc (as per the Vanity Fair article)? Also the report in the Sunday Mirror about the successful British businessman (multi-millionaire I believe) who Jackson told at the age of 13, during a long-distance phone call, that he was masturbating? I am not yet convinced of his innocence on this front.
Reply@Keane Cyber Queen Supreme:
Reply@Different Guest:
Thanks to both. What you say makes prefect sense. Lucky for me Keane, I’m not a tennis fan or it would all be too much! Too hot. All day I’ve been wondering what that yellow thing is in the sky- it seems it’s called by the name S -U-N. We don’t see it much here.
@Vittoria:
No its mainly Christian from C19th missionaries/colonialists in disguise. Now Madge and friends are spreading the influence of Kabbalah in the time-honoured tradition of chucking money at the country. It’s such a shame that these gifts always come with conditions. The programme actually ended by saying the orphanage was a great place, with better living conditions than the hotel they were staying in (albeit still quite basic), and while it was a great place for the kids to stay it didn’t make up for the kids having a real family, so having them adopted into western ones was ultimately better for them. The sad thing is I don’t think many of these children actually didn’t have families willing to take care of them. It was just that the families couldn’t afford to keep them. The orphanage had a small opening door in the outer wall where babies/children could be left annonymously by people who couldn’t care for them any more. Which begs the question, why can’t they just be sponsored by the foundation to stay within their own families/communities? Seems like the best solution to me.
Reply@lizzieb:
Yeah I am definitely becoming slightly delirious. What with the amazing glasto coverage over the weekend, Andy Murray being a champ at Wimbledon (he just won a very tough 5 set match BTW, it was high stress!) and the oppressive heat without any actual sunlight (its been cloudy all day in London), I feel like I’m on another planet at the moment. I’m actually so hot still that I’m still feeling clammy. If anything it seems to get hotter at night! Whereabouts are you in the UK BTW?
Reply@lizzieb:
I thought this was all done anonymously even when there is genetic screening or a desire for certain physical traits? I mean I know there are a couple of one off cases where SD children go legal on the donor but really, is this a legal angle that is legit? Just now catching up:
JJ interview last night: omfg BASTARD!
KJ petitions for the kids and estate: NO NO NO
They don’t think there is a will? OMG what a mess this will be!!! Is CA his permanent state of residence?
Dying Without a Will in CA
In California, who will receive the estate depends on answering a series of questions about the person who died.
1. The first question is whether the decedent (the person who died) was married.
A. If the decedent was not married, the estate is distributed as follows:
Reply1. To the decedent’s children, who take in equal shares if they are in the same generation.
2. If there are no children or other issue (issue is the legal term for children, grandchildren, great-grandchildren, etc.) living, the estate goes to the decedent’s parents.
3. If there are no parents living, the estate is distributed to the “issue of the parents.” If the decedent had brothers or sisters, they will inherit the estate.
4. If there are no brothers or sisters, the decedent’s grandparents will inherit the estate.
5. If there are no grandparents, then the “issue of the grandparents” will inherit the estate. This could include the decedent’s aunts and uncles, or if there aren’t any aunts and uncles, the decedent’s cousins.
6. If there are no cousins, Probate Code section 6402 provides that the estate will be distributed to “next of kin in equal degree,” generally meaning more distant cousins.
@Keane Cyber Queen Supreme:
I’m just outside London, but work in London. Melting, melting. Why don’t we have air con? We do at work but I don’t know anyone who has it in their houses.The first time I visited the US I really thought I had died and gone to heaven. It’s hot but you can sleep? Amazing.
ReplyOn topic- i just saw Joe Jackson on Dlisted and I wish I believed in God. That man needs being struck down. How can someone who had lost their baby be shilling? If, and I hope this never ever is a reality, I lost one of my babies I would be devastasted. What in holy fucking hell is wrong with that man?
@The Tom Cat:
Tom Cat, I have some friends that are doctors, more specificially one is psychiatrist dealing in eating disorders. I know all too well about what you would call eating disorders, etcs, The truth of it Tom Cat, is that many of these so called “disorders”, that docs give these wonderful names to so that they can get a lot of money by treating them, are caused by isolation, someone with a bad or negative attitude, lack of honest friends, family members and developed repeated bad habits and wrong thinking. These “disorders” can be changed and treated Tom Cat without medication. Most docs won’t want you to know that, because well, that’s how they make their money. They love people like you who trust them blindly. You are $$$$$$$$$$$ in their eyes. Just as with proper diet, a good attitude, positive thinking, setting limits and not trying to please everyone, along with having honest friends, less and less people would be sick. I know some medical people out there studying and researching many diseases, adn I can tell you this, some of them have shared that when they find some interesting information about some simple, natural remedy which might be an easier less expensive cure that what’s out there, it’s not always easily embraced because the pharmacies dont’ want those “treatments” getting out to the public as those treatments are often simple, inexpensive and people can treat themselves inexpensively.
Doctors run a business, some are very good; and some not so good.
I understand it takes more than just feeding someone who perceives themselves as overweight when they are frail; it’s getting through so that they listen to and see things as they are, not as they perceive them to be. They have a protective barrier around them most often, from years of being protected from teh truth. Those people who protect them Tom cat, those would be called “Enablers”
So tom cat, are you some one connected to the doc that treated Michael Jackson????
The Tom Cat said on June 29th, 2009 at 9:27 am
@John:
John. John. John. Seems you don’t understand Anorexia Nervosa and Body Dysmorphic Disorder are mental health disorders?
Curing Anorexia Nervosa involves a lot more than feeding.
Cheeze John. Google. Is. YOUR. Friend. Why didn’t you bother googling that before making a total arse of yourself? You just blew any credibility you may have had.
But then again, even a simpleton can cut and paste these days.
Ta ra.
Reply@Constant Gardener:
Hm yes, there were reports he was laughing and joking on his front lawn the day after MJ’s death while the Rev Jesse Jackson was giving interviews to the press. I wonder if he was the relative who rang the nanny to ask where MJ kept the cash in his house.
Reply@Vittoria:
No, the doctor did not do this intentionally, he just wasn’t very bright, didn’t have a good work ethic – lot of lawsuits against him, thought he had a get rich quick scheme and getting what he wanted was more important to him than doing the right thing. He gave Michael what he wanted. He wanted to keep his job, be kept on longer, make more money. He was a vulture, leach, an opportunist.
ReplyLeaked autopsy results:
http://www.news.com.au/adelaidenow/story/0,22606,25706369-5006301,00.html
Reply@lizzieb:
I know, the reason we can’t cope in the heat is because we get it so rarely we have no provision whatsoever for it. Much like the snow! But we’ve had them both this year for a change. I actually normally really like the heat as I have a crap circulation so nearly always feel cold. Even I am struggling in this weather though. Its so annoying, why can’t it ever just be pleasantly hot? Why do we go from one extreme to the other? Still I’m not going to complain too much, in a couple of months it will be back to cold misery. And yes ITA JJ is vile, and too stupid to disguise it. He’ll get his, in the court of public opinion at least.
Reply@Keane Cyber Queen Supreme:
ReplyI think he is 100% guilty. The boys dad was probably a real piece of work, which was how the boy got put in the situation to begin with. I see this as a shot for a 2nd 15 minutes of fame.
@Keane Cyber Queen Supreme:
ReplyWhat a fucking asshole. I mean, can you at least pretend he meant something to you (meaning JJ) other than cash? I could do without Jesse Jackson as well. I realize he is a family friend but he is also a huge opportunist. There is the thought that people grieve differently. That not everyone has an emotional response to death. That is it unfair for the public to determine the proper way to grieve. If JJ isn’t capable of crying, dignified silence works. I can think of no circumstance where pumping your record label would be appropriate. Cheezus those children are so fucked.
@John:
They are saying those are faked though, the police and hospital are saying they didn’t come from them. Lots of fake, dodgy stories are abounding at the moment it seems. I heard a few hours ago that there was a will, now I hear there isn’t. People are rushing too quickly to get answers when it is all so recent. If the media would just chill out and wait for a bit then we might not get so many conflicting stories. Everyone’s competing to get the info out there first, whether it’s right or wrong. And disturbingly I’ve also just read that 12 MJ fans around the world have committed suicide, one is suspected to be a Brit. Has the world gone mad? He was just a pop star. I have no emotional involvement with him at all. I was far more upset when Heath Ledger died, that seemed like such a waste of a young, promising life. For me MJ has been like a living ghost for the past 10 years at least.
Reply@mooki:
he was looking for sushi…lo!!!!!!!!
Reply@Keane Cyber Queen Supreme:
ReplyThat is massively sad. I’m not going to complain again…….well at least for the rest of the day.
Seriously though, if they really care so much, can’t they just help the families?
@Constant Gardener:
Well I was just reading The Mirror online and it said the paper had already received a number of e-mails from people outraged at his behaviour. I don’t honestly think that JJ had any relationship with MJ at all in his later years and was certainly only interested in him for financial reasons (I bet he was the relative who went hunting for the cash the moment MJ died). I don’t think he gives a shit. But he is also incredibly stupid not to pretend that he does, I mean almost superhumanly stupid. How could anyone be that crass? I reckon he’s an out-of-touch, ignorant old bully who did what he pleased to his kids with no thought for their well-being and continues to do so now. The Jackson children are all so quiet and timid, I bet no-one ever stood up to him. He’ll get his.
Replyhttp://mystateline.com/content/fulltext/?cid=79372
I guess the question is: Which some of it is false?
Winters said the reported information was not accurate, saying, quote, “some of it is totally false.” Winters said he didn’t know where the “Sun” got the information it reported.
http://mystateline.com/content/fulltext/?cid=79372
Reply@Vittoria:
Well yeah, and its not like the cost of living is that high in countries like Malawi that it would be prohbiitive. With the money Madge spent on ferrying that child out of Africa by private jet she could probably have paid for a dozen kids to be raised within their own families for life. Mercy is for Madonna’s benefit more than the other way around, like most of these celebrity adoptions IMO. Why lavish wealth on one and leave millions more to a life of poverty and being raised by strangers. How can anyone choose that as the better option?
ReplyBET Awards drama:
Reply-from what I’ve been hearing, Whitney Houston pulled out of a potential comeback performance when she heard that her ex Bobby Brown would be performing with his buddies from New Edition
-Jay-Z did Rihanna a favor by putting the kibosh on Chris Brown’s tribute performance to Michael Jackson (he was going to perform “Thriller”).
-Mathew Knowles, Beyonce’s dadager, prevented her former Destiny’s Child bandmate LeToya Luckett from performing during the main show, relegating her to the pre-show. Shady…
@Keane Cyber Queen Supreme:
ReplyI heard the suicides alluded to sometime today on TV (work from home, YAY!) but I never heard if this was true or urban legend. A friend of mine who helps me with the housework (I can’t do so much without help anymore) was here Saturday and brought her 12 year old. She had been crying about MJ. Puberty, emotions, I get that but she was genuinely crying her little heart out. She could not believe it when I told her he was very famous when I was a kid which I am sure seemed completely impossible. At any rate, she told me she had dreamt about him the night before and was otherwise highly involved in grief. I was taken aback. This is insane about the suicides if it is true and as you like to say, has the world gone mad? Really!!!
@Keane Cyber Queen Supreme:
“I reckon he’s an out-of-touch, ignorant old bully who did what he pleased to his kids with no thought for their well-being and continues to do so now.”
I think you are 100% on the mark. Have we decided if KJ and JJ are living together or separated? I am hearing both and don’t know.
Reply@Constant Gardener:
ReplyI so agree…. hope, he will not get these children …. (or his wife, who unfortunately, has no stand against him)…. otherwise we are going to see a Jackson Family Saga Part II with these kids !
@Constant Gardener:
It was reported by someone who runs an MJ fan site I think, so sounds possible. I can believe it though, MJ’s fans were the last of the crazies. You don’t see that kind of blind idol worship with any other celeb these days I don’t think, well apart from the Brandge maybe (barf obviously). But even those loonies don’t quite match the hysteria of the MJ fanatic. It is very strange, it’s like he cast some sort of spell over them. He was a good pop star and all, but that was really it. What the hell did people see in him?!
Reply…. if MJ is the King of Pop…. is his funeral going to be the Mother of all Funerals ?
Reply@Constant Gardener:
Someone said they’re still together but I thought I heard a while back that they weren’t. It seems like she had a good relationship with MJ and the grandchildren so if they were still together it would be odd if he didn’t. Surely he would have been there too when they came to visit? Anyway, must go as it’s late here, but hopefully by tomorrow we will have some answers, or more likely some further questions and red herrings!. Night all, catch you tomorrow x
Reply@lizzieb:
ReplyEgads, I just looked at the weather in the UK, it is in the 80’s (f) no wonder you guys are wilting! The weather is so messed up anymore! Here in FLA we usually get a nice 4 or 5 month winter from about October to April where we see daily temps in the 70’s and 50’s at night. That winter seems to get shorter every year. And the heat. I mean I know it is FLA but the heat seems to get more brutal every year. I am sorry you are so flipping hot. I would much rather be too cold than too hot-much easier to warm up than to cool off it seems. Wear linen.
@Keane Cyber Queen Supreme:
ReplyAmerica’s obsession at the altar of celebrity…. I hope, we are not going to seeing mass hysteria, people killing themselves off….. for MJ …. what is wrong, indeed
@Keane Cyber Queen Supreme:
ReplyNightey night!
@Ms Agatha:
ReplyI am going to guess that this funeral will leave James Brown’s in the dust. MOAF for sure. I am conflicted. I think it is good for the families of celebs to do these things privately. But I will bet you if Daddy J is involved it will be an over the top spectacle. I am sure it will be on every channel here. Gawd that is so disgusting!
@Constant Gardener:
Reply…also, will he his funeral reflect Jehovah Witness or Islamic funeral rituals…. in other words… is his daddy to get his will or will it be Michael’s…. that will tell us a lot more, who is going to run the show from now on
@Constant Gardener:
ReplyI would have had sex, name and SSN change and gone in witness protection program… if MJ father were mine….. d.i.s.g.u.s.t.i.n.g. narcissist
@Keane Cyber Queen Supreme:
ReplyPeople have committed suicide because MJ is dead? Seriously? That is amazing and I don’t mean that in a good way.
Heath Ledger was lovely and that was a real and true tragedy. This not so much. Did anyone really think it could end well for this fellow. I didn’t know so much about him, but as they say, a pictures speaks a 1000 words (or something like that). He looked pretty rough.
@Ms Agatha:
ReplyJust the religion of money is my guess. That is a slap in the face to MJ as a Muslim, as a Christian, as any mainstream religion.
@Keane Cyber Queen Supreme:</
ReplyI looked at the clip from one of these threads where someone was asking if it was even MJ at the press conference for the London concerts. There were grown men sreaming and crying. that was a bit much. Those are true loons!
@Ms Agatha:
ReplyOld man jackson will probably charge admission and have a collection plate for “the kids”. Sick freak. that man is so twisted.
@Keane Cyber Queen Supreme:
ReplyShe could probably feed the whole country for a month or two for the cost of fuel to London one trip.
bb14. This is off the subject………. but do you think that Jen ad Bradley are for real or is she waiting for Brad. I did read that she was disappointed when Brad took off for Switzerland with friends and never came to her. After she was getting together with Bradley she received a text from Brad saying that he and Ange are trying to work things out for the kids sake, and that he needed more time if he and Jen were going to be together,. She texted him back saying that he had better make up his mind because she isn’t going to wait around. I wonder what gives.
ReplyMe too…. thinking of those two…. don’t want them to go under the radar….before we forget the Brange drama, and that AJ has purchased the Examiner recently (allegedly) … and allegedly) fired Daryl ….
here is their latest laudatio:
http://www.examiner.com/x-15033-Memphis-Celebrity-Examiner~y2009m6d29-Brad-Pitt-and-Angelina-Jolie-are-not-breaking-up…. making me sick (allegedly
@benjaminbutton14:
Reply@benjaminbutton14:
ReplyDid you see my response to you on the other thread? I hope so. I truly meant nothing against Australia or its lovely people. I do sincerly mean that.
@Vittoria:
Reply… this may not be far from the truth … lol
@benjaminbutton14:
ReplyPage Six had him (Bradley Cooper) getting cozy with some other chick last week. Don’t think anything real is going on there.
@Constant Gardener:
ReplyYou are right… he is going to milk this to his own death….. and that could be a while….ahhhhhhhhhhhhh
@Vittoria:
ReplyLink please … thanks
@Ms Agatha:
I can envision it like church collection plates with old Joe up there at the pulpit with crocodile tears. he’ll probably make the grandkids dance too! Come on…do a little moonwalk for daddy!!!!!!
WHAT A HORRIBLE, HORRIBLE MAN!!!!!!!!!
Reply@Vittoria:
Reply….. it it wasn’t so sad.. it would be so funny… and tutti familia in black veils at the funeral…. ahhhhh
@Ms Agatha:
ReplyI’m sorry dear, but I don’t know. I read page six every morning and I don’t know what day it was.
@Vittoria:
Replylol…OK… will try find it…
@Ms Agatha:\
ReplyNow thats funny! I would put nothing past the old geezer!!!!!
@Vittoria:
Reply….last thing I heard… he and his wife are busy ripping of carpets and searching through old garbage in rental home of MJ …. in search of the holy grail …left behind by their beloved son
@Ms Agatha:
Wow! he’s making that old lady do it too? I guess he beats her as well. I wish those Nation
of Islam people would beat him.
I do beleive this is going to make the Elvis story seem tame. Loved him……even velvet elvis!
ReplyOff Topic: Are the twins PIC’s coming or not ? Time has come …. it’s been a year ago…. If nothing = death of the Brange, clean way to handle it …… if it’s family photo on the family lawn with everybody saying cheese: Bad PR and desperate…. hope for clean cut
Reply@Ms Agatha:
I found it. he was with somebody named Lake Bell. probably a young un that I don’t know.
http://www.nypost.com/seven/06222009/gossip/pagesix/amber_tamblyns_soothing_date_175493.htm
Reply@Vittoria:
They only beat him if Hell’s Angels will be in charge of funeral protection …. lol
Elvis…. MJ marries his daughter to be close to him ? …. If Elvis had known, he would have hunted him out of Neverland…. lol
Reply@Ms Agatha:
ReplyWhat if they don’t look so great? They wouldn’t be in the mood for pics would they?
@Ms Agatha:
Replywell I say…..Hell’s Angels….come on down!
@Ms Agatha:
ReplyNFW. Where did you hear it? I did see that Janet and the moving vans arrived. I chalked it up to getting his personal items and valuables out before the stuff goes on the auction block! Ripping up the carpets? Cheezus. Ghoulish much JJ?
@Vittoria:
Reply… this is going to be really interesting…. whatever they choose to do, they are under scrutiny….unless of course, I see pics of the family in the kitchen, with AJ cooking at the stove…. BP covered in wheat…..baking cookies with all the kids… everybody smiling and cheeks red of excitement…. dogs and cats happily snoozing next to the fireplace…
@Constant Gardener:
ReplyIf you could be locked up for being an asshole, that man would get a life sentence. Latoya should come on out and dish the dirt.
@Ms Agatha:
ReplyBecause you know that ahppens everyday…lol lmao!!!!!!!! yeah, she’s a real suzy crocker or whatever.
@Constant Gardener:
Reply…according to the a century-live-in nanny… who got phone call from MJ mother asking her if she knew where he ( her son) is hiding his money…. her answer: look under carpets and garbage…… she gave live interview in England …. it’s all over the news
@Vittoria:
Replyall I can find, that girl is a model… not that great looking…. but all is an improvement after AJ…
This public funeral is going to be disgusting. Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton are vile men who have no dignity. Everyone is using him as means to an end still. Joe Jackson is even worse than the two “reverends”. Those kids are going to have a hell of a time.
But it isn’t just them, the rest of the “media” who are selling false statements and other bullshit to sell their rags. Jesus, even the Chopra family seem to be the cottage industry of MJ with Deepak’s daughter writing an article for The Huffington Post. She’s defending the nanny Grace Rwumba (i don’t actually know her last name) saying that Grace didn’t mean to speak ill of Michael to the reporter Daphne something and that Daphne had taken advantage of Grace who was vulnerable yada yada…I don’t have time to find the link, but the author is Mallika Chopra and it was on The Huff Post today online.
ReplyJoe…..MJ father said today in interview on CNN :
“He was loved in every country in the United States.” … I am looking forward to more out of his mouth in the coming months…
Replyhttp://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/michael_jackson/2009/06/29/2009-06-29_doctor_frantically_tried_to_find_working_phone_while_michael_jackson_was_dying_l.html
Daily News reports that MJ doctor couldn’t find ‘ working’ land line phone ( there were shut down due to ‘ privacy reasons’ ) … unpaid bills ? ….. for 30 min… before able to cal 911…
ReplyAgatha, maybe we’re talking about 2 different things. I thought BB14 was asking about jen and bradley Cooper being an item. My reference was to him and the the Lake Bell girl from Page Six.
Reply@Vittoria:
ReplyVittoria, you a right…. I misunderstood…. goggled Lake Bell…. and found a model…. not familiar with Page Six/ Lake Bell girl ….. lol….
LOS ANGELES — Investigators on Monday retrieved medications from the rented mansion where pop star Michael Jackson was fatally stricken last week, a coroner’s official said.
Two coroner’s investigators and two police detectives spent several hours inside the three-story estate home and then emerged with two large red bags filled with evidence.
The coroner’s office performed an autopsy on the 50-year-old entertainer’s body on Friday but deferred a decision on the cause of death, citing the need for further tests. A second, private autopsy was being performed Monday, according to Jackson’s father, Joe.
Assistant Chief Coroner Ed Winter told reporters outside the home that authorities returned to the home to gather additional items, which he identified as “some medications
Winter cited “information that was obtained by the Los Angeles Police Department along with some questions we had involving some of the medications,” but he did not elaborate.
He would not say what type of medications were picked up. He also did not say how much medication there was or where in the home it was found.
The investigation will possibly continue for another four or five weeks, “with extensive testing,” he said.
http://www.kctv5.com/entertainment/19894302/detail.html
ReplyMichael Jackson’s final rehearsal — on the eve of his death last Thursday — was recorded in high-definition video and multitrack audio and could be released as the King of Pop’s last album, according to Hollywood entertainment site TheWrap.com………..
http://www.bostonherald.com/entertainment/music/general/view/20090629michael_jacksons_final_rehearsal_could_be_released_as_his_last_album/srvc=home&position=recent
ReplyJackson doc’s attorney: Lengthy delay calling 911
There’s absolutely no excuse for this.
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5hQzxoYUpf7B-v0Ig5QP_JkckrHgQD994LPQG0
Reply@Ms Agatha:
ReplyPage Six is a purely gratuitous gossip site on an otherwise right wing newspaper, the New York Post. Sadly, I am hooked reading online and enjoy it with the morning coffee.
Last pics of Jackson rehearsing for concert:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1196369/New-pictures-Michael-Jackson-hard-work-rehearsing-just-days-died.html
Who was buying drugs for Jacko? Minder at centre of probe as police find prescriptions in different names
By Paul Harris, David Jones and Jo Clements
The mystery over Michael Jackson’s death took a dramatic new turn last night after police began tracing the trail of drugs believed to have killed him.
Prescriptions appear to have been written in several different names – those of members of his entourage.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1196437/Who-buying-drugs-Jacko-Minder-centre-probe-police-prescriptions-different-names.html
Last updated at 12:48 AM on 30th June 2009
Reply@Vittoria:
ReplyI realize what I wrote doesn’t make sense. I was trying to be polite and edited from right wing rag, but it didn’t come out right. Oh well, there I said it. I’m a rabid Democrat. But I didn’t mean to be rude to them. Lets say I’d will have to agree to disagree with their views on…………..oh so many issues. The traash part of the paper is most excellent. They do trash great!!!!!!!
@Vittoria:
ReplyHahaha…. nicely said… I know exactly what you mean…. nothing better than some real good dirt with your hot morning coffee….. the entertainment value trumps any political or lifestyle affiliations ….. there is a time for political correctness …. but not when it comes to my morning gossip….lol
Whoa! The dude did it again. Old man Jackson plugging away again today. The man positively stuns me and not a lot stuns me anymore. You probably saw this, but here is a link about half way down the page.
Replyhttp://www.dlisted.com/
@Ms Agatha:
ReplyI’ll have to agree with you on that one! I like to wake the brain up slowly in the morning. I’m not that bright and I don’t want get wound up too quickly and blow a gasket so I start with the stupid stuff and work my way up. I don’t think if I live until 100 that I will ever like reading about war and all the horrid things right off the bat.
@Vittoria:
yes, awful, isn’t it…. posted this :
Ms Agatha said on June 29th, 2009 at 7:39 pm
“He was loved in every country in the United States.” … I am looking forward to more out of his mouth in the coming months…
Reply@Vittoria:
This is highly needed recreation for me too…. I work my as* off during day and need something to take stuff of my mind….. to find myself intrigued by the same shit going on in other people life as in my own …. hahaha…… the only thing with separates me from any celeb is my bank account….. and they sometimes do shit, I have known better not to do….. makes me wonder of myself lol
Reply@Ms Agatha:
ReplyA little knowledge is a dangerous thing! That’s what he has – very little. I would have thought he’d have been around a bit more to know that at this point. guess not.
@Ms Agatha:
Well hopefully and probably a lot separates you from some of them, the freaky folks that is. Being a star or whatever can’t be any good if you lose your mind or whatever may happen with many of them.
Reply@unknownxcat:
unknownxcat said on June 28th, 2009 at 12:11 pm
“With that in mind, is it a good idea for these kids to be around the grandfather, who was the one that battered their father and basically started his downfall? OR…are MJ’s parents divorced, and just the grandmother would have custody perhaps?”
In court papers that the Jacksons have filed, the family compound in Encino is listed as Mrs. Jackson’s place of residence. However, Mr. Jackson has no place of residence listed on the legal work – for his address it says tbd (to be decided). I don”t know whether that means they separated or divorced, but it seems to mean something is up.
Reply@Harikari girl:
ReplyWell here’s to hoping he is far away from the kids. The way he is strutting around and practically dancing on the fellow’s grave, seems to indicate differently, but who knows. I don’t really see how he can be an asset in this situation. He looks a real ass too going on about his damn record label or whatever he’s prattling on about. I find him beyond shocking.
@Harikari girl:
ReplyA fellow might put something in his wife’s name so that should he be sued, that wouldn’t be his asset and therefore not forfitable.
@Harikari girl:
I should’ve never engaged in gossip in the first place and I don’t like to think what it would say about me if I were to stay.
What changed your mind and why should I trust you ? Curious…..
Reply@Ms Agatha:
Well I’m glad you’re back! The only constant is change in this world and life is a fluid situation.
Night peeps. Its past my bedtime.
Reply@Vittoria:
Replynite vittoria
@Vittoria:
When Joe Jackson was asked about the allegations that he beat MIchael and that Michael had admitted to having been beaten, Joe Jackson basically said “I never beat him. I used a leather belt – a beating is when you use a switch (branch). Psycho, cold ass MF.
Reply@Ms Agatha:
ReplyYeah, I had a little bit of a meltdown. Somebody I knew passed away a little over a year ago from a bad mix of medications and it really crushed me – really was devastated. The one person in my life that I never would have thought would go that way. Then the thing with Michael – it just brought all that sh*t up in me and, like I said, I basically had a meltdown. Got hysterical. And that’s pretty much the story. I think there was also a little bit of projection from my feelings about losing a friend and intertwining it with MJ. I think what was the final push was Ian seeming cold and being like “I told you so”. Made me go haywire.
@Vittoria:
bb14. I saw it and I opologize that I didn’t reply earlier but I have been flat out at work I’m a nurse andf I have been working long hours.
Please forget it no harm done, gawd I hope that BP and AJ arn’t getting back together I couldn’t stand it.
ReplyI wonder when Ian is going to give us some updates of The Brange we are in need of some.
@harikari girl:<a class=”replyTo” href=”#comment-
I have pasted your last entry on this blog- where you said your good bye to us in an unmistakingly obnoxious manner ……in case you had forgotten ……….. until I am convinced otherwise, I am suspicious of you. Sorry, but not buying it. Rather tell you the truth than not.
Reply@benjaminbutton14:
ReplyGlad to see you coming on from down under….lol…. Just talked on phone to friend in Fiji Islands…. that’s why I am still up… now bedtime ….. keep us informed….. like your posts ….. night and hello
@Ms Agatha:
ReplySorry it seemed obnoxious to you – it was not addressed to the posters here. And you’re certainly entitled to your own opinions.
I heard that Michael Jackson was in a relationship with Luka Magnotta? He is a bisexual porn actor and male model?
Reply2 more entertainers have passed.
Gale Storm. A B-movie actress in the ’40’s. (Although at least one is a very, very good B-movie). She went on to bigger popularity in a 1950’s tv series, “My Little Margie”. DOT records then asked her to record for them. She had two huge hits: “I Hear You Knocking” and “Dark Moon”.
Fred Travalena. A very talented impressionist of celebrities. He was everywhere in the “70’s.
Reply@Harikari girl:Nice to see you back. Wasn’t Papa Joe in Las Vegas when Michael died, his mother was rushed to the hospital from the home in Encino? Hopefully they are separated and it’s being kept quiet.
Reply@Harikari girl:
ReplyFair enough , welcome back HKG my mom is in the hospital right now, she was taken in last night so I get what you mean.
@Vittoria:
Replybb14. You are right I was
@Harikari girl:
ReplyYes , it made me feel uncomfortable
@Keane Cyber Queen Supreme: Catch up Keane. A lot of hyphenation has been dropped from the English language honey. Oh. I guess you’re too busy monitoring the site and jumping on people who disagree with the rubbish that is “reported” here.
Fail Keane. Fail.
Reply@Harikari girl:
ReplyOK, lets move on….
@Gwen:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BX4cwnnz4SQ
a report on MJ’s second accusers, the pathetic Arvizo family.
Reply@The Tom Cat:
Yes dear, those pesky hyphens have obviously just been dropped from the English language because you got called out on not being able to spell when trying to be a superior tw*t about someone else’s spelling. I’m not sure whether you are familiar with the dictionary at all but if you look it up you will see that hyphens most certainly have not been dropped when it is convenient to an obnoxious poster on a gossip blog. Especially ones with a “self” in front of, you know like self-congratulatory, self-important and self-justifying maybe? I’m sure you’ll be more than familiar with all those terms. Don’t get your knickers in a twist because you tried to act like the bg hard cat but made yourself look like a fool while doing so now will you? Life is too short to be such a dick I can assure you of that. And BTW as for your previous accusation that I am “self-aggrandizing” (note that crucial hyphenation), I would like to introduce you to the word “irony”. Buy a dictionary, look it up, educate yourself Tom Cat. And why don’t you have a nice little look through the hyphenated words while you’re there? That should keep you occupied for a good, well, hopefully the rest of your life if we’re lucky.
Ta ra.
Reply@Alif:
ReplyWow. their dropping like flies this week.
Note to self: go jog and do 5000 situps.
@Harikari girl:
So you had a meltdown. It happens in the best of families, so just dust yourself off and keep moving forward. I’m sure we can all understand that. I hope you at least got it out. Bottling the caca up is not healthy for you either, so maybe an occassional freakout isn’t the end of the world, if you come out the other side a little purged.
@Keane Cyber Queen Supreme:
HAHAHAHA…….. enjoyed that ! Keane, you made me laugh that early in the morning , thanks….
ReplyTom Cat needs dickshionarry ! lol
dick-shionarry
Reply@Keane Cyber Queen Supreme:
ReplyWhat’s up with the kittys. First we have smelly cat and now Tom Cat. Can’t someone be……ph I don’t know a coyote or sea lion or something. Losing points on creativity gals.
Aaaaaaargghhhh!! Are we STILL on this story? LOL Come on Ian, can’t you come up with something new for the group to chew on? JMO of course, but this story is played out. I’m worried about LadyBert – she hasn’t been on and she must be pulling her hair out for a new story! hahaha
Reply@Kate – I hope your Mom gets better and it’s nothing serious!!
Reply@Tamara:
ReplyMaybe smelly cat and tom cat ripped her to bits! Somebody save ladybert!!!!!!!!!!!!
Got to run. Ciao
@Hari – welcome back Hun!
Reply@Tamara:
ReplyYes, I agree a new story would be really nice.
@Vittoria:
God FORBID!!!!
@Tamara – Serial poster! LOL
Reply@Tamara:
ReplyHi Tamara – thanks for the mention! I have been on and checking – just not posting as much as usual. But I just read an article about strange Michael – seems he was not the biological father of any of his 3 kids and strange Ms. Rowe was not the biological mother of the first 2 – dang, these people are just plain weird!
Dear Ian – do you remember evil Ms. Jolie, hapless Mr. Pitt and sweet Jen? Do you have any new info on that unholy trinity? Thanks and love and kisses xoxoxo
ReplyGlad to see Harikari Girl back (dont worry about the meltdown HK Girl, I have been known to have a few in my day too) and sorry to hear about your mom Kate – hope she is better soon. Has Patty Anne had her surgery yet? Just catching up here!
Reply@ladybert62:
ReplyLady Hellllllooooooo!!! Yes, I was thinking about Patty Anne on my way to the grocery store! haha Wonder if she had her surgery and does she have her laptop propped up on her chest now while she’s flat on her back?? PA – sending you get well wishes hun!! You’ll be doing cartwheels before you know it!! xoxoxox
@Tamara:
ReplyHI Tamara – I spent most of the weekend (well after chores and reading here of course) reading my new historical fictions that the kind ladies here recommended! Greatly enjoying them!
god its like crickets chirping in here…….no Brangelina news to report **make up cough cough**
Reply@Harikari girl:
Welcome back!
Reply@Kate:
Kate, I hope your Mom is doing ok – please let us know!
Reply@Tamara:
ITA! I just popped on for a few minutes to say Hi to everyone.
Hi everybody!!
Oh, and I read (I think this was in whichever tabloid had the cover story about Why Brangie is hiding the twins) that BP will be taking photos of the twins for their first birthday and selling them for money for charity. Hey if all he wants is money for charity, why not put them on some kind of pay-per-view website instead of selling them to a mag and getting tons of PR?????????
ReplyAnd I have no idea if this is true, but the latest on Huffington Post is that Debbie Rowe is not the bio mom, she was just a surrogate!
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/06/30/debbie-rowe-not-kids-biol_n_223054.html
I’m not even looking for news on MJ but it just appears and smacks me in the face, so to speak.
ReplyI appreciate your hard work and journalistic investigation in to this matter for such a long time and I thank you for coming out and writing this. I feel it will help a lot of people find closure. May God rest hin soul in heaven and may you find what you are looking for, Ian.
ReplyJennifer Aniston goes public with Brad
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The pair arrived around 10 p.m. and left two hours later. “They were very flirty and into each other — it was definitely a date,” says an eyewitness. “Jen looked really happy. When they left, they went back to the same hotel together!”
For more on Jen and Brad’s date, pick up the latest issue of Life & Style Weekly, on newsstands now!
ReplyI am confused: (1) Michael Jackson is not the biological father of any of his 3 children; (2) Debbie Rowe is not the biological mother of the first 2 children; (3) MJ’s dermatologist is the biol father of the first 2 children; (4) no one is saying who is the biol mother of the first 2 kids; (5) no one is saying who is the biol mother and biol father of the third child; (4) MJ did NOT adopt any of the 3 kids – do we have a potential legal mess here or am I making this more complicated than it needs to be? Thanks.
Reply@ladybert62:
Oh, I think you summed it up nicely!
Reply@Harikari girl:
ReplyWelcome back harikari girl. With so much going on in the world and on the blog sites, it’s no wonder some of us have mini-melt-downs now and again. Hope you are feeling better now.
I’m having my surgery Monday, July 6th, so no idea when i’ll be able to sit at the desk again…but i’ll be thinking of you my mystery solving buddies, and wishing you much luck and friendship….
Keep an eye on Jennifer/Brad / Angie for me…..lol
@Constant Gardener:
ReplyIt’s murder. I nearly commited a murder on the train last night – hot, stuffy and full of people that made we want to scream “HELLO. THERE IS SOAP. DEODERANT. SHAMPOO. DID I MENTION SOAP?” Sadly the UK does not have air conditioning in homes usually.I have never been so glad to get to work, ever. I’ve also argued with everyone except the dog.
Anyway, back on track. Who in holy hell are the parents of MJ’s kids? Why was Joe Jackson not stabbed in the brain years ago? Is it true about the suicides?
@Keane Cyber Queen Supreme:
ReplyKeane, we didn’t think you’d be able to continue with any form of self control.
@ladybert62:
ReplyDid you get Lady of Hay yet??
@lizzieb:
ReplyYou made me laugh lizzieb! Are you sure you are not riding the absolutely dreadful public transit system in San Fancisco? Your description sounds like it – except you forgot the part about “breaks down regularly, does not show up on time and most of the time never shows up and if it does show up then it breaks down!” I agree with what y ou said about Joe Jackson – scum bag supremo! – and not only who are the parents to those three kids but what will happen to them!
@Tamara:
ReplyHi Tamara – I sent you a message on Sunday (I think). Yes, I got the book (big and fat just the way I like them) and as soon as I finish the third novel of the Ariana Franklin series recommended to me by backalley knees (I am in the middle of book 2 now) then I start on the Lady of Hay! Am greatly enjoying my new historical novels and thank you and ”knees” for the recommendations!
@Patty Anne:
ReplyHi Patty Anne – glad to see you! Will be sending good thoughts your way on the 6th when you have your surgery – hope it is successful and that you do not have much post-operative pain! Hope you can figure out some way to still chat with us while you are recovering!
@too curious:
Replybb14. I think that is totally disgusting selling photographs of your children for money I don’t care who it is for. My god who the hell do they think they are. I believed that she would dom something like that but I never thought he would stoop so low. I have always liked Brad but now he getting a bit too cocky about himself, putting that clause in his contract about people touching him, thinking about it I guess I can see his point after that Ann Curry interview god, she was really over the top with that.
@benjaminbutton14:
ReplyHi BB14 – I agree with all that you said! Evil Ms. Jolie and hapless Mr. Pitt are totally over the top! They both seem to think they are GODS! Probably the charity that they are pimping their kids for (oops, meant selling the birthday photos) is themselves!
bb14 Did anyone read in one of the mags that “Ange is livid that Brad is sleeping with Jen?”. It was just a heading that I came across but the mag wasn’t from Australia, Just wondered if anyone read about it. Probably the truth be known, you never know what is true and false with these 2, as we have heard nothing from Ian for ages on these 2.
Reply@too curious:
ReplyWow…. these kids need all the therapy they can get ….. where was children protection service in all of this mess ….. this is absolutely absurd
@lizzieb:
Ditto to that, although I also found this was a problem on the day of the tube strike. Lots of people on not enough buses/trains with not enough personal hygiene awareness + rain = a smell somewhat akin to a wet dog. Not hot!
Reply@Keane Cyber Queen Supreme:
ReplyAre you experiencing the same homeless people problem that we have in SF? Perhaps our Gel-Head Mayor has shipped them all over to you for a visit! Just my insensitive self arising to the call!
@Ms Agatha:
ReplyI agree – I find this situation really strange – just like evil Ms. Jolie and stranger in a strange land Madonna, it appears to me that strange Jacko has in effect “bought” his children! It is beyond my comprehending and I am very curious to see how it plays out – in a court of law?
@ladybert62:
Yes admittedly I was in a pretty ropey part of town which has a preponderance of people not too fond of the old washbag. The rain made them smell even worse. It was wet dog but worse if you know what I mean. Wet tramp if you will. It was bleurgh!!!!
ReplyI predict that whatever happens to those sad three “Jackson” kids, that laws in at least California are going to be passed to prevent or at least more stringently monitor this purchasing of children by the Hollwood peeps! What do the rest of you think? Am I going off an a tangent?
Reply@Keane Cyber Queen Supreme:
ReplyWet tramp! A good one Keane!
@ladybert62:
ReplyIt blows my mind, that one can legally rise 3 kids, without adopting them, being single parent, addicted, no stable environment, sleeping and staying in third party homes, all received IV, various surrogate mothers, fathers unknown or unproven, no proof of home schooling, and if so, by whom ? and the list goes on and on….
I always thought that certain standards need to be met when ‘ buying ‘ a child, never mind 3 of them…. speechless
Here are pictures taken the night before he died, at rehearsals. According to Kenny Ortega they were in fact taken June 24th, despite being erroneously dated by many outlets as June 23rd.
http://justjared.buzznet.com/2009/06/29/michael-jackson-final-rehearsal/
AEG confirmed that they have over 100 hours of Michael’s rehearsals recorded in HD, including the final night where he performed up to 11 songs and it went on for several hours. Every legitimate insider who actually witnessed the rehearsals has said the same–that Michael could still perform his iconic dance moves including the moonwalk and spin, and he sang live wonderfully as well. This includes the stage hands, the magician who was hired to create illusions (he worked on Britney’s tour as well and he sat in on the final rehearsals), the choreographer and producers, the backup singers and dancers, his old time manager Frank DiLeo, and very close friends including Marlon Brando’s son. AEG plans on releasing footage and audio of his rehearsals at some point, probably as a posthumous album and live DVD. There is so much misinformation being spread at this point with everyone trying to capitalize on him, hopefully the videos and pictures from the night before will speak for themselves. That alleged interview with Debbie Rowe the tabloids are passing around is also false, that was the same story and same exact quotes they reported years ago (2005 or 2006) and she vehemently denied ever making such a claim at the time.
Reply@Ms Agatha:
ReplyI agree with you and you raise some important issues in your comment! And many of these same issues apply to the Brangie brood also! My opinion is that if one of us “regular joes” tried to do any of this t o just one kid (let alone the 3 Jackson and the 6 Brangie) on our own, we would be hauled before some authority pronto and be required to prove that us “regular joes” are providing the correct environment to raise a child! Money in America does buy what one wants!
Jennifer Aniston Tries to Make Brad Pitt Jealous with Bradley Cooper
Atlanta, GA 6-30-2009 08:12 GMT (TransWorldNews)
Jennifer Aniston is allegedly trying to use her relationship with Bradley Cooper to make ex-husband Brad Pitt jealous. Sources say the actress, who is currently filming Bounty Hunter with Gerard Butler, was determined for her recent date with Cooper to be caught on camera.
“The paparazzi have nicknamed her ‘The Phantom.’ She doesn’t get photographed unless she wants to. This was no accident,” a source says of pictures of Aniston leaving a restaurant with Cooper.
“She’s definitely trying to make Brad jealous. She’s sending him a message that she won’t wait around for him forever,” says a friend of the actress. “Jen wanted Brad to wish it had been him there with her and not another man.”
Pitt was allegedly set to dump partner Angelina Jolie to rekindle his romance with Aniston
Reply@Ms Agatha:
Apparently MJ is legally their father under Californian law because he was married to the surrogate at the time so there was no need for him to adopt them. The rest I am in full agreement on though, yet again we have a case of social services not being willing to properly inspect the lives of children of celebs. BTW, although jacko was in hundreds of millions of dollars worth of debt, his ownership of The Beatles back catalogue is worth $!.3 billion. It sounds like he didn’t want to sell it so kept borrowing from the bank. In reality he was still a billionaire. Those kids will be very wealthy in the not too distant future. Hence the desire for custody on the part of the surrogate I would have thought. These people have no shame.
Reply@ladybert62:
ReplyI so agree with you…. this is main reason why I don’t like the Brange …. they actually have gotten away with a lot , by buying kids from outside the US ( There needs to be a law, that any adopting parent needs to do drug test, if adopting within or outside the US ) . Furthermore, the Brange are also selling photos of their kids, tax free because it’s for good cause….. de facto getting free press and increasing their commercial value of their brand ( tax free !!!) , free exposure gets you No 1 spot on Forbes List…. and so on, and so on…..
@Keane Cyber Queen Supreme:
I think MJ cleverly took advantage of big wholes in the system…. I can only hope, that the courts will be busy on the subject for quite some time, so the legislature will wake up and give us some laws, applying to everybody, to stop this ever happen again…… and if it requires AJ doing a drug test in future before she adopts any further….. would make me happy already…frustrated here…
Reply@Imran Siddiqui:
ReplyYour website link is interesting, what is the mission of Global Crossover?
@Keane Cyber Queen Supreme:
ReplyIntersting point that I forgot Keane – thanks! But then what about the third one – he was not married to that surrogate, he is not the bio dad and he did not adopt him! And I have read somewhere that MJ has 200 unreleased songs – imagine, 200! That is an incredible minefield of future money! And it now seems that he has an unreleased completed video made during the time just before his death – much moola waits those kiddies and whoever has control of them (Joe Jackson is on his way I am sure!)
Hi everybody, Kate, warm wishes for your Mother’s recovery, HKG welcome back, what is going on today?
Reply@ladybert62:
Reply…did you read the rumor, that dad of the 2 oldest is MJ’s dermatologist (acc to TMZ) . Now, what if he would ask for custody, being the bio father ? Could he get it ?
@Ms Agatha:
ReplyYes I did read that – I had the exact question! I do that that grandma Jackson is going to end up with the kids but I do see where others are going to be blinded by dollar signs in their eyes and think about trying to grab some (even if they dont get the kids they can cause problems and then get bought off!)
Kate, hope your Mom is better. The kids are only valuable if they are considered MJ’s, therefore his heirs, unless the will is very specific. I have a real problem with Katherine having these kids, she saw what her own children went through, if she had any contact with Michael, why didn’t step in to at least make sure the kids were in school? The only one who seems to have stayed out of the limelight pretty much is Rebi and apparently she is still married to her first husband and has raised 3 children of her own. If they are taking the body to Neverland, he didn’t lose it? I thought it had been sold or foreclosed on.
ReplyI read something yesterday in the local legal newspaper that said the fight over the Jimi Hendrix estate is still going on due to the money made from pictures of him etc – that fight has been going on for 40 years! And the Jimi Hendrix estate is no where near as valuable as the MJ estate is (in my opinion). Yikes, this is going to be the “continued employment plan for attorneys” for decades!
ReplyThe madness which is coming down on us ….. a public viewing at Neverland ! I can see people fainting or worse , right on the spot…. 24 hr TV coverage …..
Reply@Different Guest:
ReplyI also thought he had lost Neverland – and I agree with what you said about the grandma having the kids – from the little I know, she did not intervene when Bad Daddy Joe was doing those awful things to the kids. I believe in discipline (and the occasional tough love of a span here and there is OK with me) but his approach sounds overboard and even sadistic if what I have read is correct – I would not want Bad Daddy Joe near those three kids….
@ladybert62:
ReplySorry for tpos – keep getting interrupted here at work – cant they see I am doing more important things than my job!
Dear Ian – we need a new thread – this one is taking me tooooooo long to load and post to!
Reply@Ms Agatha:
ReplyDang, we are on the same wave length today Ms. Agatha – I read that and had that same thought! Yikes, what was he a president! A public viewing at Neverland – it is going to be a media circus!
@ladybert62:
Reply…. I don’t want to see pics of him through open split …… aaargh… front page everywhere….
Farrah Fawcett funeral going on right now….. very quite and dignified private funeral
Reply@Ms Agatha:
ReplyAnd it looks like MJ’s will be neither!
http://business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/business/industry_sectors/media/article6607989.ece
Jackson’s posthumous sales going through roof … outstrip Elvis’ ………… 40.000 units sold ….already
Replypost mortem
Reply@Kate:
Hey Kate sorry to hear about your mom, sending my good wishes and thoughts to you both.
@ Patty Anne – In case I don’t catch you beforehand, all the best with the surgery on Friday, we will all be thinking of you. You’ll have to ask your man to post a comment on your behalf over the weekend to let us know you’re alright. Much love to you though anyway x
Ok y’all got to go to bed but catch you tomorrow, providing I can stand the heat enough to comment of course!x
Reply@Kate:
ReplyThanks for the understanding and I’m sorry to hear about your Mom, I hope that she will be okay – I’ll light a candle for her.
Thanks Tamara, Vittoria, Different Guest, Patty Anne & Constant Gardener.
And Miss Agatha – I didn’t like hearing that I made uncomfortable, I don’t like to make anyone feel that way – I’m actually a very introverted person so I feel uncomfortable a lot of the time in real life. I offer you an apology for making you feel that way.
Reply@Harikari girl:
I accept your apology.
ReplyI, too, have my sensibilities and will always address them directly. Thank you for reaching out. And let’s start over again …. peace
At the moment, I feel very very sad for Michael Jackson. (I’ll probably get called out more for this than having spazzed out the other day). As talented as he was I believe the extensive damage done to him in his childhood set him on a tragic collision course.
This weekend I heard a very disturbing story about MJ. I was walking my dog and stopped to say hi to a neighbour and of course Jackson’s death came up, not surprising given the fact that the story completely dominated the press. Anyway, story was as follows: In 1995, Jackson was getting ready for a major concert – my neighbour was working closely with him as he did all of the costuming for the show and was present for the rehearsals. He said that Jackson usually rehearses one of two ways – he’ll go all out and really dance and sing and bring it up to performance level, and then, at other times, he would tone down and just kind of walk around the stage, tell the orchestra to just follow his lead and he’d just do a random move here or there. Neighbour said that he did the walkaround usually to explore the music and see what it brought up for him in dance. So… that’s the set-up to the situation.
3 days before the concert was to be taped, they were in the midst of a rehearsal and Jackson was up on stage doing his thing. Then all of a sudden he stopped moving completely and his face was frozen – total disconnect. At first, everyone thought he was joking, but then they started to realise very quickly that something was going on. The next thing they knew, Michael just tumbled over like a board. His body was straight forward and he went down face first – he literally landed on his face and was knocked out stone cold.. They immediately went over to him and that’s when they were really shocked at what they saw. Jackson was laying there without a nose of any kind. My neighbour said that it was absolutely incomprehensible to look at – there was justa a cavity with two small hole. Meanwhile, Michael Jackson’s normal looking nose was laying off to the side of the stage – somebody collected it and they then saw that it was actually a prosthetic nose. Without the prosthetic, MJ didn’t have a nose, so to speak. The all just stood there looking at him absolutely astounded how completely deformed he looked without the prosthetic. They did of course call an ambulance and it was reported in the press that he had collapsed. A number of media outlets thought he’d just fake collapsed to get out of the date. The people who were in the theatre that day made sure that nobody passed it on and it didn’t make it into the press. Neighbour said that one of the reasons Jackson worse so much foundation was to blend in the prosthetic. Anyway, needless to say, I was horrified by the conversation and it made me feel bad for him – the guy had no self-esteem and I just kept thinking what it must be like to go to bed every night and take your prosthetic off and seeing your image without a nose in the mirror every morning and night. It must have been truly macabre.
* In later years he finally found a german plastic surgeon that was able to do a reconstruction using cartilage but that was years after this event. I wonder if all those nose jobs in between were just for vanity or because the guy didn’t have a nose and was tyring surgeries with different doctors to rebuild one.
*Oh and by the way, Jackson’s first nose job can be chalked up to his caring Papa Joe. Joe used to mock MJ from 5 on about how ugly his nose was and how wide – to me that was the genesis for changing it. I also know that he did not want to resemble his father in any way, maybe that’s a second reason. Anyway, I just felt really really bad for him when I heard this story. No wonder he was so interested in the remains of the Elephant Man – I think he could relate and I think he thought he was in some way grotesque.
Reply@Ms Agatha:
ReplyThank you. I have a lot more respect for people that just come out and say where they stand – which you did. I’d rather somebody have a problem with me and tell me, then those people that act all nice to your face and then talk about you behind you back. It may not always feel great to hear people’s opinion of you but it beats the hell out of false camaraderie.
“jackson wore so much foundation…” typos galore
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Reply@Harikari girl:I’ve wondered about the nose thing, did it change his voice? I know Barbra Streisand was told if she got a nose job it could change her singing voice, which is why she opted against it. That might also explain all the photos of him with the surgical mask.
I agree with you, HKG, Michael was physically and emotionally abused by Joe (and frankly I’ve wondered about other abuse as well). Did I read somewhere that Joe was a wanabe musician, never quite good enough? Sounds like Joe was incredibly jealous of Michael since he was very young. Too bad, no one ever pointed out to Michael that his father was ugly as sin, the photographs of Michael before the surgeries he probably would have been a very attractive man.
ReplyOK. Ian, the Sudanese model is due in September so she’s definitely showing by now.. can we at least get a confirmation on a baby bump????
Carry on with MJ folks. Didn’t mean to interrupt.
ReplyThe Los Angeles medical examiner’s continued silence on the cause of Michael Jackson’s death points to drug abuse, a top medical examiner told FOXNews.com on Monday.
Baden added that the role of any doctors and pharmacists associated with the singer would likely be scrutinized further if the toxicology findings show drugs to be the cause of death.
“If he had large amounts of drugs in his system, the next step will be to find out who prescribed them and who administered them,” said baden. “If he did have Demerol or morphine in his system, the Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA) will get involved.”
According to Baden, the main reason the Jackson family would hire an independent second autopsy would be to seek faster answers about the singer’s death.
“The [state] coroner’s office knows an awful lot of information now, but they aren’t releasing it because they want to wait for the toxicology results to be completed, which could take weeks,” Baden said.
“A family-sanctioned autopsy can tell them right away, and it can also reveal details such as fresh needle marks on his arms, if he was suffering from any diseases or conditions, etc. And the toxicology results can be available to them within a few days, as opposed to weeks,” Baden said.
*******
Once the toxicology results are in, I feel they will be going after several docs. It appears there were no health issues.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,529480,00.html?test=faces
Dr. Michael Baden, chief medical examiner for the state of New York, told FOXNews.com that because the California coroner’s office did not mention any health conditions or trauma, it is safe to assume that the singer was abusing drugs in a manner that led to his ultimate death.
“One can reasonably speculate [that drugs are to blame] since the initial autopsy findings made no mention of an injury or trauma to the body and no mention of natural disease,” Baden, who recently performed the private autopsy of actor David Carradine, told FOXNews.com. “The fact that they didn’t say anything about it indicates he did not have a bad heart.”
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,529480,00.html?test=faces
ReplyIn his autopsy, the L.A. County Coroner said that Michael had been taking “some prescription medications.”
“He appeared to be taking a variety of strong narcotics, and many of those drugs were obtained in the names of his staff and associates,” an insider added. “While the people around him insist they were acting in his best interest, the drugs were used to control and manipulate Michael — and the drugs eventually killed him.
“His family has asked the LAPD to investigate [whether there was any thing unusual about his money trail].
“A team has already started probing his finances.”
http://www.showbizspy.com/article/188688/michael-jackson-thought-someone-wanted-to-kill-him
Reply@Different Guest:
I have no idea whether it did or not. I do know that he had 2 different speaking voices – the one we all heard which was very high and soft. But apparently behind closed doors he often used a much deeper more masculine voice.
Reply@Patty Anne:
ReplyPatty Anne – must you do it Monday the 6th? The full moon is at its perihelion Tuesday the 7th (about 5:00am EST) and it is best to not get cut open around the full moon as one bleeds more. This one is more powerful as it’s accompanied by a lunar eclipse.
Is it arthroscopic surgery or a full cut job?
@Vittoria:
ReplyOOPS! Meant endoscopic.
later.
@Gwen:
thanks for the post. off to read that mary fisher article you referenced.
Reply@Harikari girl:
Replywow. what a tragic story – all the way around. i have heard for years he had a prothetic nose – can’t even imagine. MJ’s story reminds me that “money is the root of all evil.” or at least is seems to fit in this case. joe’s greed and cruelty was unbounded. selling his children for $$ and fame, treating them like circus animals. look where it lead. personally, i feel michael never had a chance. some will say he was an adult and could have made different choices, but i don’t believe there was a day in his life he wasn’t surrounded by greedy pigs trying to exploit him. would any of us have turned out any better?
If the tapes reveal a healthy and vigorous Michael Jackson, this will dispell any claims that there was anything seriously wrong with MJ, and support what some of the more honest doctors with some integrity that were close to him are saying which is that MJ was a hypochondriac, that he had a drug addiction, a desire to be perfect; hence all of the plastic surgery; and there were doctors who gave out prescriptions like candy with out any morals or values. Additonaly, many of the vultures, leaches in his life that wanted a piece of the money, lifstyle also enabled him. I would suspect they have the results of some of the tests and are already investigating the doctors and friends now. In additon, Sanjay Gupta indicated he’d blow the whistle on those who contributed to MJ’s demise.
Clearly, if these toxicology results come out indicating an overdose, and the coroner who worked on David Carradine indicated; they have not at this point said anything about any heart problem, or any other disease that was serious, it points to a drug addiction, and that Michael was healthy. These tapes would support that and be further evidence.
If I were the doc with him for his final moments; I’d be concerned. If he injected him with anything he’s cooked; and even if he didn’t; as a doc he would know what Michael was doing, would most likely be witness to it, and any other doc involved giving him drugs, and or administering is going to face serious consequences.
The doc who was with him in his final moments is finished as a doc now anyway. An opportunity of a lifetiem he thought; Who in their right mind would go to him now and trust him after what happened to MJ in his care. He’s done. Of course, he had a bad reputation to begin with – lots of lawsuits against him, back child support. And he has 5 kids by six women: http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/2507708/Michael-Jackson-doctor-has-6-kids-by-5-mums.html
Conrad Murray could face manslaughter charges if it was he who brought this into the home, administered it, or knew about it.
**************BREAKING****************** http://www.okmagazine.com/news/view/15388
Further speculation over what exactly caused Michael Jackson’s death is being discussed after TMZ reports that Propofol, an extremely potent and dangerous drug, was found at his home.
Propofol is used for surgical anesthesia, and the report indicates it is not supposed to be used except by medical personnel, as it can only be administered with an IV. A source tells TMZ, “There is no conceivable way this drug can be properly prescribed for home use.”
******************THIS IS VERY SERIOUS, CHARGES MAYBE FORTHCOMING********************************
ReplyI’m going to refrain from the ‘I’m melting’ except to say in the over 90F in London today. On London Bridge I thought I was wading through treacle. Smelly treacle at that.
ReplyAnyhoo. Michael Jackson. Why oh why is his family allowing his body to go on display? Fair enough, many cultures have open caskets but this is for those who attend the funeral and/or wake. You know, people that know the deceased. No propping up their mortal remains for any Tom, Dick or Harriet to have a gawp. It’s macabre. Fucking Joe Jackson- how, in a country where it’s so easy to get a gun, is he still alive?
@cuze:
Replybb14. I agree she must be showing a bump. But I have to say that I don’t think it’s Brad’s. Even tho he is a creep I don’t think he would be that stupid to get some-one pregnant JMO.
Anywho on with MJ
@Patty Anne:
Replybb14 Good luck on Monday Patty Anne, will be thinking of you. And we sure will keep an open eye on Brad/Angie/Jen. Something must break on these 3 soon. Will say a prayer for you.
@lizzieb:Seriously, I’m waiting for them to do a Lenin with the body and put it on permanent display.
Reply@MaeIAsk:
Replybb14. Take off jerk we don’t need your comments here.
@sinker:
I must admit I have never heard about the prosthetic nose but it does kind of figure, he looked so strange. I think the lesson there is don’t f*ck with your face folks, especially your nose, it looks that way for a reason! Poor man, how awful to have to see himself like that and not be able to do anything about it. So sad.
Reply@lizzieb:
I know, I mean it wasn’t like he was looking too good while he was alive lately, can you imagine what he will look like dead? Its not nice, his life is still the spectacle it always was. He isn’t even getting a moment’s peace in death, it’s all about the show. Shame.
Replybb14. Looks like Bradley Cooper and Jen are a thing of the past, read that he is dating Renee Zellwegger, Looks like Jen is still waiting for BP
Reply@Different Guest:
ReplyThat is a good one – or maybe they could do an Alexander the Great and put MJ in a gold tomb with the body embalmed and on permanent display! Sounds like something Bad Daddy Joe might like to do – then he could charge admission for all to see Michael the Great!
@ladybert62:
ReplyOld Joe would probably like to stuff him and prop him up on a stage while big videos of him performing play in the background. That fellow is beyond wacko jacko – beyond twisted!
@Vittoria:
ReplyHe’ll probably make them do matinees where the rest of them dance and sing around the stuffed supstar.
@Vittoria:
ReplyThat make me do a BIG laughing out loud! The image is tooo funny!
@sinker:
I had no idea he had a prosthetic nose made. I knew he’d had multiple surgeries and I’d seen pics over the years with a band aid on his nose and stuff like that but no idea about a prosthetic. Actually, when I was told that story the other day, I didn’t really get it for a while. I kept saying to my neighbour “what do you mean his nose was over there?” “How did it get over there?” “No, I mean how can a nose just completely snap off and land over there?” Duh! It took me forever to take it all in. But once I had I did feel sad for him. As Keane said in her post “poor man…”
ReplyI heard that they’re canceling the Neverland plans and trying to come up with something else because they tried to get a permit to bury him there and the county turned them down because it’s a residence. They also finally broke the will – his mother is to have sole guardianship of his three children (Note the word SOLE – no Joe Jackson), if his mom can’t do it or passes away then he wished Diana Ross to step in and take the kids, and two guys I’ve never heard of are supposed to head a trust that will remain confidential. He didn’t leave anything for Debbie Rowe (she was already paid off), but this one part in his will stumped me:
“Except as otherwise provided in this Will or in the Trust hereof, I have intentionally omitted to provide for my heirs. I have intentionally omitted to provide for my former wife, Deborah Jean Rowe.”
Are his children not his heirs? What exactly does this mean? I’m terrible with legal stuff so forgive the ignorance.
Reply@ladybert62:
ReplyMe too…sad though it is, probably not far off the mark. If that old dude could stuff him and make money, I don’t doubt for a minute that he would. I’m sure his little mind (what there is of it) is working overtime on ways to make money off of this.
@harikari girl:
ReplyThe will has been misinterpreted in reports — suggesting that Debbie Rowe was intentionally excluded. Jackson has even excluded his own children from getting property under the will. But all that means is that the trust he created will control the distribution of property.
@harikari girl:There was no reason for Debbie Rowe to be in his will other than as a potential guardian for the children. She was his ex-wife, also no mention of Lisa Marie Presley, his other ex-wife. The intentionally not provided for my heirs is more likely directed at his father and his siblings to prevent them from successfully contesting the will. It looks like he did have good legal advice re:the finances. It is still possible that Debbie Rowe could sue and get custody of the two older children.
ReplyYou forget to said that Celine Dion offered him her house in Ste-Dorothee, near Montreal after 2005 pursuit when she was at Las Vegas. MJ decided to go to Dubai with his childrens. Anyhow. We don’t cares now. That’s over.
Your books is already on the net! Great job
Reply@egm:
I agree, bunch of lies from Ian trying to make a buck off of Michael, pretty sad how this world is. If you knew so much about Michael why wait till he is dead to say something, where he can not defend himself.
Since he is no longer here, I will defend him, first I will start by my own words to Ian, you are such a coward to say such things without proof what goes around comes around you’ll get yours in the end, btw are you gay? You look like a gay man from your photos, and to defend Michael, words from his own song:
“Tabloid Junkie”
Speculate to break the one you hate
Circulate the lie you confiscate
Assassinate and mutilate
As the hounding media in hysteria
Who’s the next for you to resurrect
JFK exposed the CIA
Truth be told the grassy knoll
As the blackmail story in all your glory
It’s slander
You say it’s not a sword
But with your pen you torture men
You’d crucify the Lord
And you don’t have to read it, read it
And you don’t have to eat it, eat it
To buy it is to feed it, feed it
So why do we keep foolin’ ourselves
Just because you read it in a magazine
Or see it on the TV screen
Don’t make it factual
Though everybody wants to read all about it
Just because you read it in a magazine
Or see it on the TV screen
Don’t make it factual, actual
They say he’s homosexual
In the hood
Frame him if you could
Shoot to kill
To blame him if you will
If he dies sympathize
Such false witnesses
Damn self righteousness
In the black
Stab me in the back
In the face
To lie and shame the race
Heroine and Marilyn
As the headline stories of
All your glory
It’s slander
With the words you use
You’re a parasite in black and white
Do anything for news
And you don’t go and buy it, buy it
And they won’t glorify it, ‘fy it
To read it sanctifies it, ‘fies it
Then why do we keep foolin’ ourselves
Just because you read it in a magazine
Or see it on the TV screen
Don’t make it factual
Everybody wants to read all about it
Just because you read it in a magazine
Or see it on the TV screen
Don’t make it factual
See, but everybody wants to believe all about it
Just because you read it in a magazine
Or see it on the TV screen
Don’t make it factual
See, but everybody wants to believe all about it
Just because you read it in a magazine
Or see it on the TV screen
Don’t make it factual, actual
She’s blonde and she’s bisexual
Scandal
With the words you use
You’re a parasite in black and white
Do anything for news
And you don’t go and buy it, buy it
And they won’t glorify it, ‘fy it
To read it sanctifies it, ‘fies it
Why do we keep foolin’ ourselves
Slander
You say it’s not a sin
But with your pen you torture men
Then why do we keep foolin’ ourselves
Just because you read it in a magazine
Or see it on the TV screen
Don’t make it factual
Though everybody wants to read all about it
Just because you read it in a magazine
Or see it on the TV screen
Don’t make it factual
See, but everybody wants to read all about it
Just because you read it in a magazine
Or see it on the TV screen
Don’t make it factual
Just because you read it in a magazine
Or see it on the TV screen
Don’t make it factual
Just because you read it in a magazine
Or see it on the TV screen
Don’t make it factual, actual
You’re so damn disrespectable..
R.I.P. finally Michael, thank you for all you helped me get through in my childhood.
ReplyWow Ian, what an imagination. Nice fictional article.
Reply@Kelley:
@Lynda:
To Ian,
If you don’t make some money out from Michael even though he is dead now , you will never give up. YOU ARE THE ONE WHO NEED HELP ! WHAT HAS MICHAEL DONE TO YOU THAT MAKE YOU HATE HIM SO MUCH ?? At first you accused him as a child molester and you had proved yourself wrong , now you said his is a guy. I THINK YOU ARE THE ONE WHO IS A GUY. IS PEOPLE LIKE YOU THAT KILLED MICHAEL !!! PLEASE MAKE YOUR MONEY FROM GOOD WAY. THING COMES AROUND GO AROUND ! YOU WILL PAY FOR THE PRICE ONE DAY !
ReplyI’m a huge fan of MJ’s music, and I just finished reading your book. I find it to be a very fair presentation of facts. Honestly speaking, I never did pay much attention to all the trials and chaos that MJ went through. Maybe it was partly because I really didn’t want to believe any of it. Although, I couldn’t escape some of it too… MJ was too big a star and news about him was just everywhere. I saw Martin Bashir’s documentary and was left feeling disturbed.
I was also determined to just keep it about the music. If MJ was guilty or not shouldn’t matter… his music was still GREAT.
When MJ passed away, I was shocked and saddened. To my own surprise, I was deeply saddened.
His story is truly tragic. After reading your book, I don’t believe he is guilty of anything. I guess what I’m saying is… thank you. Your book made me feel good about MJ the person, and not just the artist.
I hope he is now resting in peace, as this world was not kind to him.
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