IUC World Exclusive: Michael Jackson 1958-2009

so sad.

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“I told you so?” That’s your final comment on this man’s life? That is sad.

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What a day !…. So sad…. wished I wake up and it was not true….

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@Tatiana:
Yeah, that is a little bit of an odd way to post about his death and having predicted it – what’s up with that I wonder?

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His lawyer has made a statement that Michael was on numerous drugs because of his old injuries – including a broken back, broken leg, etc. And now they’re saying an autopsy is indeed going to be done.

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Last pic of MJ … sorry, graphic

http://www.google.com/#hl=en&q=entertainment+tonight+michael+jackson&aq=1z&oq=entertainment+tonight&aqi=n1g%3Az1g9&fp=OzgK0dwM7rU

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@harikari girl:
Yes, rumors of suicide are swirling, he could have just taken too many, mixed them.

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IAN, please do not tell us you are dancing on his grave as well, I know that you have much more compassion than that, surely that is not your final epitaph for Michael Jackson.

I sincerely hope we are misunderstanding this, whatever his problems or crimes may have been lets give the man time to at least get to the morgue.

Cheers, Kate

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@Kate:

If it were drugs, my gut instinct would be that it wasn’t suicide. Several years ago, in the course of one year, I lost my dog, my surrogate mother, my surrogate father, and my best friend – who I nursed solely without hospice until he died. Cut to 3 months later and I’m told I have to go to Cannes to do publicity – plus I have looping left. Producers and distribution companies loaded me up on so many pills it wasn’t funny. Then everyone got on the train because they needed me to continue to function. End story – they had me on Norco, Oxycontin, Soma, Valium, Diazepam, Seroquel and hydroxyzine to put me out at night, Provigal to take in the morning along with Vyvase also. My BF used to come into my room early in the morning before going to work to check to see if I was breathing. Oh, and on Phenobarbital when I would stop being numb and start to sob and grieve.

I’m sure that Michael Jackson was probably on stronger things than these. There’s a doctor in the valley – as long as you’ve had an MRI and know the cord word from someone else, he’ll see you and write you prescriptions for Morphine! Another doctor is out by Santa Monica – side story, but there were 2 actors that were really good friends and then they had a public falling out where one said to the other “I’m not going to hang out with you as long as you’re using drugs.” Made a big to do about it. Cut to a month later and said actor who had outed his friend’s drug use and refused to be around him was at that doctor’s office in Santa Monica and came out with a nice fat script for 3 different controlled substances – talk about hypocritical…

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Ian’s credibility is restored!!! What a douchebag.

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Let’s give Ian a break – his earlier entry was about attending a funeral for a 6-year old so I’m guessing he is not at his best. I think this is just a reminder that he KNEW MJ only had 6 months to live, so it wasn’t a shock to him like it may have been to so many. And, well, he did tell people so, and caught a lot of crap for it, but I don’t think he intended this as vindictive or mean-spirited, just that he had already reported it. When I heard the news I thought, well, not unexpected, Ian had reported on this.

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Poorly played, Ian.

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@too curious:
I would agree with that, I know IAN is not mean spirited in the least, that is why it caught me by surprise. He is always compassionate, under normal circumstances, but it did not sound like him to me. He is normally not so curt.

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He’ll have to wait until Jackson’s autopsy results are released before Ian can lay claim to this dubious victory dance. My recollection is that Ian claimed Jackson had a specific disease and would die from that – not that he would drop dead of a heart attack.

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Gloria Allred (the lawyer who sued MJ over hanging ‘ blanket’ out of window in Berlin, just said, that there will be great fighting over custody of children, it’s going to get very ugly.
Court does not need to follow MJ’s will, the court will take it into account, but has no obligation to follow his will …. the kids will be beneficiaries of future royalties etc. … expect it to get super ugly…

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I will probably get flamed for this, but I also have to say that I believe the child molestation accusations against MJ were true and he used his wealth to buy people off. If I had attended the FUENRAL of a small child today I would have a pretty hard time with all of the attention MJ’s death is receiving. I KNOW he is very famous, and I also believe he was abused as a child and didn’t get needed help, but he certainly had the means to get any help he needed. And yes, “they” say speak no evil of the dead, but I will always support innocent children over a predator. A friend’s 17-year-old daughter was here when we heard the news and she said, that’s sad, I liked his music. I said I liked some of it but I sure as hell wouldn’t let any child I knew within a 100 miles of him. Also, Farrah Fawcett died today and I find it sad that the reporting is almost like, oh yeah, and FF died, too. I’m in Houston, Texas, her home area and still she is getting eclipsed by MJ. By the way, I literally grew up listening to the Jackson 5 but although I know and liked that music, I have trouble glorifying someone who I believe was a pedophile. Just MHO.

Rest in Peace, Farrah. MJ, if there is a God, may He have mercy on your soul.

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TMZ’s Harvey just said that most likely MJ mother is going to get custody…was part of court agreement between MJ and their bio mother..

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Not a time to gloat. Whatever you have to say about him, there are people all over the world hurt by this. I’m reading peoples messages on twitter and blogs, people are in pain, like they lost a family member. So Ian you may have been right, or maybe one of your lies just lined up at the right time, but since he’s dead I wish you wouldn’t gloat.

He brought more to this world and to people than your disgusting so called gutter journalism has brought to anyone, what will people remember you for? Answer me that? what have you brought to people? Other than hate, you are a bottom feeder, the lowest form of human being, I was giving you the benefit of the doubt.

I haven’t been on here for some time because I’ve been traveling, I met some people, actual real journalist that `know you’ and your tactics and you are SCUM, the simple fact that you associate and support perez hilton says enough. Have fun rejoicing over a mans death.

You are a sick and demented individual and when you readers learn the truth they will be shocked and feel betrayed. I know someone from a legit mag that is doing an expose on you, perez and all the crappy tabloids and bloggers that deceive their readers. So good luck with that, your gonna be on blast very soon.

I know you all will attack me, but if you knew what i knew you’d understand. I’m not a person that goes hard at people, unless I know I’m justified. Peace

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I do extend sympathy to all of MJ’s family, friends and fans at his death. I’m not trying to be demeaning regardng his death. I’m saddened at how his life turned out. And if you want to call someone out, how about the Jackson family spokesman hinting that MJ may have been abusing drugs?

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@tinitina:

If we knew what you knew we would understand. Why don’t you tell us, instead of hinting?

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I can not believe my ears or eyes – odd man or not – Michael was a talent. It is so sad. It makes me all feel a bit older. Is this the day the music died?

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@too curious:
Because she doesn’t. lol just like all the little creepy crawler insiders that hint.

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@tinitina:
I first came to this blog because I found it when Ian was doing the Angelina month. There was some stuff – just little things that I knew firsthand to do with AJ/BP and their treatment of JA. I thought Angelina should be called out on her hypocrisy, the mountain of lies and a really malicious campaign against JA. I also felt like blasting BP for saying there was nothing going on physicaly with AJ because that i KNEW to be false. I kept thinking that I’d spill it all, but the more that I been here, the more reticent I have become about speaking in detail about others. And I’m over this place too. There’s no way in hell, if I were to confirm AJ rumours that I would give them out on Ian Halperin’s blog – I guess I knew that I wouldn’t by the time he got to AJ engaging in bestiality with pitbulls, that pretty much made me feel like scrubbing my fingers and keyboard with Clorox! Oh, and the rape story – absolute repulsion. You called it “gutter journalism” in your post. I think you should have just called it the gutter. GutterUndercover.com

I should’ve never engaged in gossip in the first place and I don’t like to think what it would say about me if I were to stay. It’s too bad – I really first came here to read what the original posters had to say. Some of them were very eloquent and others had unique takes. But I’m through with this sh*t. Gone, finished, over, goodbye.

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Have a nice life. @harikari girl:

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@harikari girl:

I’m sorry you are leaving – will miss your posts and insights.

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@harikari girl:
Harikair I am surprised at you, are you that intimidated by someone that can come on here and spoof you like that. Let me remind you that those stories were in a blind item. It only later in a chat that IAN said that there information to back that up. Now you and I both know that there is a down and dirty scene like that in LA, I am really surprised at your response. Don’t be called out so easily.

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@too curious:
Yes, we will miss her, I thought HK was more familiar with IAN, this other fool does not have a clue what they are stepping into, but I have a very strong sense of it. Deep doo honey. Another person did this a few weeks ago, and that has been taken care of.

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@too curious:
Like I said on the last thread I think he was a sick pedo too. Yeah Ian you are a HUGE jerk, the liver condition you claimed was bogus. Oh I am sure he HAD liver problems……too many pills over a long period of time affect a liver’s function. But I really think this was an OD, the guy was a pill popping nutjob.

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Looks like Michael Jackson succombed to a similar cause that Anna Nicole Smith died from. A lot of enablers around her. People wanting a piece of her lifestyle, lying to her, letting her take and do whatever she wanted so that they could be a part of it. These people don’t make waves, keep the status quo, jump on the band wagon, there is no integrity. The victim, or star is vulnerable.

Brian Oxman, Jackson’s spokesperson and longtime family, hinted that the singer may have had trouble with prescription drugs.

“This was something which I feared and something which I warned about,” Oxman told CNN. “I can tell you for sure that this is something I warned about. Where there is smoke there is fire.”

Oxman told CNN that the singer was taking drugs to deal with past injuries, such as a broken back and broken leg, which were getting in the way of his concert rehearsals.

It was no mystery illness that Ian is suggesting. It is plain old abuse of drugs. Living the highlife, doing as he pleased, thinking there will be no consequences that he was invincible.

I suspect he was worried about his upcoming concerts, making a comeback, and resorted to the drugs.

Report: Overdose of prescription drugs may have killed Michael Jackson

MARK J. TERRILL
Report: Overdose of prescription drugs may have killed Michael Jackson

Death of Michael Jackson slows the Internet to a crawl

Michael Jackson dies at age 50

Dane Cook’s sister-in-law accused of stealing from him
New Jersey housewife Danielle StaubLife & Style reports that Michael Jackson was taking a cocktail of up to seven prescription drugs in the months before his death.

And a Jackson family lawyer told CNN he “feared” the drugs could kill the pop star.

The star had been taking prescription painkillers including anti-anxiety drugs Xanax, Zoloft and painkiller Demerol in recent months, sources close to Jackson told Life & Style. The insider close to the star said he took a suspected overdose of drugs on Thursday morning, which caused respiratory and cardiac arrest.

Jackson family lawyer Brian Oxman confirmed Jackson may have had trouble with prescription drugs as he prepared for his London show.

“This was something which I feared and something which I warned about,” Oxman said on CNN. “I can tell you for sure that this is something I warned about. Where there is smoke there is fire.”

Mr Oxman compared Michael to Anna Nicole Smith, alleging that Michael had ‘enablers’ just like her.

CNN details Jackson’s long history of medical problems here.

Meanwhile, Hollyscoop reports that doctors visited Jackson “daily.” THe site’s latest update:

While news of Michael Jackson’s death came as a shock to many, inside sources tell Hollyscoop exclusively that the King of Pop “had doctors visiting him daily.”

Michael went into cardiac arrest Thursday afternoon and was rushed to UCLA Medical Center around 1pm. His personal physician was with him at the time and accompanied him to the hospital.

At approximately 1:14pm when he arrived at the hospital, doctors and emergency personnel performed CPR and tried to resuscitate him, but were unsuccessful. He was pronounced dead at 2:26pm.

The cause of his death is still unknown, but an autopsy is scheduled for this coming Friday afternoon. Michael was transferred from UCLA Medical Center to the coroner’s office via a Los Angeles Sheriff’s helicopter shortly after 6pm.

Amy Winehouse should watch her drug intake; this could happen to her.

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@Laura LuLu:
I feel like that too, very sad, sort of the same way I felt when Elvis died .

The day the music died , well put.

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@too curious:
I’ll second that…..all of that (I even live in Houston too).Yes, it is sad when someone dies. yes it is sad when children lose their parent. His music was wonderful and he was one the most talented performers that we had once upon a time. I think we all appreciate that about him. The things he did and the person he became, probably due to addiction were very bad though. Don’t speak ill of the dead I understand, but to act like it is awful when not feeling that at all would be hypocritical. Most likely he just took too much of whatever. Much of reported suicide is just people getting messed up and overdoing because they don’t remember what they’ve had or they want to feel more.

Messing with kids is the most unforgivable sin on this earth and that is not negotiable.

http://www.vanityfair.com/fame/features/2004/03/orth200403

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Looks like he died of a drug overdose. Like Anna Nicole Smith, there were a lot of enablers around him. It’s claimed he took up to 7 types of prescription at a time, making Anna Nicole’s Smith addiction look light.

MICHAEL Jackson was taking prescription drugs as he battled to get into shape for his gruelling comeback tour due to start in London next month, a lawyer for the family said.

Jackson, who fought long-running battles with prescription medication throughout his career, was taking the drugs after suffering injuries during training for the concerts, attorney and spokesman Brian Oxman said.

According to a new report, the singer — who suffered cardiac arrest earlier this afternoon — may have taken a drugs overdose.

“Michael was non-responsive when he arrived in the emergency room. They didn’t call a time of death until he was here. They tried to revive him, then said he was dead,” a source told X 17.

(See our Michael Jackson gallery)

“A few different people were with him but they were all giving conflicting information,” the source added. “The sense of a possible drug overdose is lingering. They’re sending him in for an autopsy.”

(Read the stars’ tributes to Jacko)

The LA Times reports:

The circumstances of Jackson’s death remain unclear. Law enforcement sources said that Los Angeles Police Department robbery-homicide detectives have opened an investigation into the death, though they stressed there is no evidence of criminal wrongdoing. The detectives plan to interview relatives, friends and Jackson’s doctors to try to figure out what happened. The L.A. County coroner’s office will determine a cause of death.

Brian Oxman, the Jackson family attorney, told CNN that the superstar had a very serious problem with prescription medication, and that the people that were surrounding him were enablers. “If you think the case with Anna Nicole Smith was an abuse, it’s nothing in comparison to what we have seen taking place in Michael Jackson’s life”

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According to a new report, the singer — who suffered cardiac arrest earlier this afternoon — may have taken a drugs overdose.

“Michael was non-responsive when he arrived in the emergency room. They didn’t call a time of death until he was here. They tried to revive him, then said he was dead,” a source told X 17.

(See our Michael Jackson gallery)

“A few different people were with him but they were all giving conflicting information,” the source added. “The sense of a possible drug overdose is lingering. They’re sending him in for an autopsy.”

The LA Times reports:

The circumstances of Jackson’s death remain unclear. Law enforcement sources said that Los Angeles Police Department robbery-homicide detectives have opened an investigation into the death, though they stressed there is no evidence of criminal wrongdoing. The detectives plan to interview relatives, friends and Jackson’s doctors to try to figure out what happened. The L.A. County coroner’s office will determine a cause of death.

Brian Oxman, the Jackson family attorney, told CNN that the superstar had a very serious problem with prescription medication, and that the people that were surrounding him were enablers. “If you think the case with Anna Nicole Smith was an abuse, it’s nothing in comparison to what we have seen taking place in Michael Jackson’s life.

http://www.showbizspy.com/article/188369/michael-jackson-died-of-drugs-overdose

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Brian Oxman, the Jackson family attorney, told CNN that the superstar had a very serious problem with prescription medication, and that the people that were surrounding him were enablers. “If you think the case with Anna Nicole Smith was an abuse, it’s nothing in comparison to what we have seen taking place in Michael Jackson’s life.

http://www.showbizspy.com/article/188369/michael-jackson-died-of-drugs-overdose

This says it all. It’s really unfortunate.

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@John:
If this is true, I hope they will get each one of them and drag them to court, also why was his doctor in his house at the time ? What was he doing there ? Hello ? Something went wrong ?

What ever happened to the Anna Nicole enablers ? Are they still in court ?

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@John:
Regardless if he did, the autopsy will be done, and will clearly show if Michael “had [Alpha 1 Antitrypsin] for years and it had gotten worse, and he needed a lung transplant but was possibly too weak to go through with it, as IAN reported, that will be revealed. If he indeed did have emphysema and chronic gastrointestinal bleeding, that was a concern that could cause death, that will also be revealed. If he was taking painkillers because those conditions were painful and hard for him to have a quality of life, then he very well may have taken too many and died of a heart attack, and those as the underlying causes. We don’t know, the coroner will tell us. IAN knows, like all reporters, as we all know too, that a story is only as good as the souce. The autopsy will reveal how good his source was, unless it is sealed. Common sense, on this we can all agree.

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@Kate:
Somebody playing games, me think…. just saying

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@Ms Agatha:
Yes that is odd, I don’t anyone has ever asked HKG to ever spill the goods on anyone, at all, there are several on the board that know the goods and don’t talk about it either. I did not quite get that comment, that was very strange. IAN will sue the person that writes that and win because that persons intent is to defame, which shows that Miss Tin Tin does not have a clue what she is talking about. You can not do that,not with intent. So if someone is trying to write and expose on him for that person, they best lawyer up, because I know he has. Sounds like some rabid Brange fan, and there is not a journalist out there that will not protect their Constitutional rights, right or left. Love them or hate them, just the way it goes. They have too, or they may as well all put their pen down, and watch the waves drift out to sea.

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@Kate:

I can smell a law suit against the estate… how can his camp keep the seriousness of his illness under the covers for so long and get people to finance his ridiculous 50 concerts in England, even for a younger and healthy guy that number of concerts is sheer out of the question….and some money has already flown and – as rumored- spent ….

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@Kate:
On the other subject …… confirms my suspicion …. will leave at that, you know what I mean…. the world is full of surprises

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I didn’t read Ian’s prediction, but I did read several other sources that sort of warned us that Michael Jackson may die in the near future. But, like the majority, I simply shrugged it off.

There is a superstition in show biz. Death comes in threes. Ed McMahon, Farrah Fawcett and now, MIchael Jackson seem to fulfill that.

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I really want Larry King to die. I hate him.

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@Ms Agatha:
Wow … I think I totally missed something here! Or it went flying way over my head! I have no idea what just happened with MHG!

I do have to say, however, that the last couple of blogs (this one and the one about John Mayer) haven’t sounded much like Ian. By any chance, am I wrong in my thinking Ian was quoting someone else from another website?

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Ooops. I meant harikari girl, not MHG. Also, to clarify … I was thinking Ian was quoting someone else in the John Mayer blog.

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@Kate:
I don’t understand.

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Hey, have you seen this news article?
New details about Michael Jackson’s Death Emerge
I was wondering if you were going to blog about this…

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@backalleyknees:</a
Don’t understand ???

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@harikari girl:

Gutted you’re going Harikari…

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@too curious:
I agree with every word! I am the ame age as MJ, and so ‘grew up’ with him – that he was a mighty talent is undeniable. We went on holiday once and forget to take more music, had only the Off The Wall tape, but listened to it every day and never got sick of it. And I think I could listen to it today and still feel the same. But I too think he was guilty, and I think he was so arrogant about it he thought we were all foolish enough to believe he was just a Peter Pan figure who loved being around children. But this was the man who, in a tv interview, stared into the camera and said he had only ever had 2 tiny cosmetic procedures done. So, his fabulous music never sounded the same to me somehow, and I would never have bought another record or concert ticket of his. But I feel sad for the man he was, the loss of his talent, the waste of a life, but not for the man he had become.
I felt sad last night that Farrahs death will be eclipsed by this, as I really liked her, but then I thought maybe it will be a blessing for her family, and give them space to grieve.

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@backalleyknees:
yeah, who’s “this other fool” and “another person did this a few weeks ago and it was taken care of”. Am I missing a post on this thread? I don’t remember what you’re alluding to. Sorry.

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@backalleyknees:
is that not Harikari girl. I’m really sorry, this is just going over my head at the moment.

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@Togi:

This is about two posters who play a game, name of game : bashing Ian and the blog, one poster playing sidekick for the other …

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Local tv news is devoting a lot of time to Farrah Fawcett’s life and death.

http://www.Zap2it.com has a list of other sites that are discussing MJ.
One reports that MJ aides told medics that MJ collapsed after an injection of DEMEROL. Demerol is a painkiller. Other reports claim that MJ had many enablers; hangers-on, if you will. Reports cite MJ took at least 7 diff drugs daily.

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@Alif:
On the “no words” thread, near the bottom, Vittoria posted a Vanity Fair article that discusses his past use of demerol and other presciption meds. I would suggest checking it out. Paints a really nasty picture of MJ and his sycophants.

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@Kate:
Kate, I don’t for a moment believe he had a lung transplant, or any such disease. The only “disease” Michael had was a drug addiction and the abuse he endured living with his family at one time and the effects of the drugs on his body. The Jackson family lawyer is even speaking out about that. It speaks volumes. Not only is this a friend of the family, he is a legal person speaking out and out about persons in his life and what Michael was doing. This is no different story than what happens to a lot of stars who take this path. Oh, there are a lot of excuses that come out in the media to protect them; they have this and they have that, but in the end, it’s their addiction to drugs – alcohol, like Elvis, Jimmy Hendrix, Judy Garland, Anna Nicole Smith, Robert Lucas, and people like Winehouse, Spears, and others need to be more cautious.

When you have a close associate of the family, who just happens to be a lawyer, publicly announce to the media that Jackson had a drug problem which was worse than Anna Nicole Smith, than no question he had. His lawyer would be up on charges for false information and defamation of character. He knows this of all people.. Jackson was dead quite a while before the media released and confirmed the news. CNN kept reporting Jackson in a coma well after most media outlets were spreading the news of Jackson’s death. It was said the Jackson family couldn’t speak to the media; couldn’t make a statement they were in such grief and shock; no doubt there is a lot to answer for. If this was your brother, son, wouldn’t you have been honest with him about the self destructive behavior he exhibited over the years, and I don’t just mean the drug allegations, I mean everything he did. This family and his friends protected Michael from the truth; like many of the above mentioned deceased stars.

People need to be honest with family, friends. It’s what grounds them and keeps them sane. There are many positive ways of being honest with someone you care about, and there is power in numbers. It can’t just come from one person; it has to come from many. I suspect, many people benefited from Micahel’s generosity, his irratic behavior and his vulnerabilty, so they kept him the way he was. No doubt in my mind that drugs will be found during the autopsy.

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http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1614751/20090625/jackson_michael.jhtml

Lisa Marie’s statement:
“I am so very sad and confused with every emotion possible. I am heartbroken for his children, who I know were everything to him, and for his family,” Presley told MTV News in a statement. “This is such a massive loss on so many levels. Words fail me.”
(is she the one who’s starting the “IT WAS THE DRUGS!” rumors? psycho…)

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@John:
Hey John I am sure they will be as well, that was not what I said. I recently had a friend pass away from Drugs , prescription, but he would have died in the next year year or so though because he also had a very rare nuero problem that did not show up until he was 40 something. He began drinking popping pills etc died at 52 sadly but while the pills killed him his death vert list the underlying cause of death as that disease, lesions, tumors. So while Michael died of a heart attack due to pills , if that is true , it may be possible that had he had been healthy as you or I he would have not. It does not really matter at any rate to me what he died of , he has passed away. However, he was incredibly weak at that last PC and I can not imagine how he would have ever gone on stage in 2 weeks shirtless and done -Diana. Jmo

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@Constant Gardner:
Agreed. I am no MJ fan, in fact I am stocking up on insulin in case I go into a diabetic coma at all the sugary whitewash poured on a damaged man. However, if the best you can do is say ‘I told you so’ it makes you look like a desparate wannabe. I never, ever slag off people personally but that is so low ‘ooh ,I called it, I’m like a real insider’ Bollocks.

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@Kate:

I believe that in the U.S. the ONLY cause of death is heart failure because that is our definition of death. However, means and underlying/contributing factors are what reveal the details. If I were MJ’s spin doctor I think I would WANT as many underlying factors, especially diseases, to be listed to help explain/justify all of the drugs, but thank goodness I’m not. For the record, I could never be a HW spin doctor, just sick of all of it.

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This just popped into my head about the media onslaught…if I were BP’s PR person, NOW is when I would announce/confirm the split…just kind of slip it in while attention is focused on MJ.

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Im confused. Why did Harikari go off the rails? What was Kate talking about someone got taken care of? I was reading the posts and it all went pear shaped and now Im left wondering what happened? I really liked HG I hope shes not really gone

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@harikari girl:

i don’t think it was suicide either, just combined too many pills. heaven only knows what he was on – so many surgeries, past injuries. IMO – he probably also had an eating disorder for a long time and that might weaken his heart.

and, btw, harikari girl, you rock my face off. xo to you for surviving so much madness. my bf and i had a talk last night and we decided that being very wealthy and famous would suck if you have mental health issues because everyone around you would just say “yes sir, yes ma’am, here are your pills” all the time. when you are working class and start f*cking up, you lose your job, your income, your child visitations – you get to a point where NO ONE is going to cover for you, you have no choice.

your story reminds me of similar stories i heard about curt cobain – i know someone who toured with nirvana and toward the end, his “management” would pour drugs in him because they needed him to “perform.”

and to IAN, i didn’t interpret your statement as “dancing on his grave” but agree it sounds a little cold, but hell, it was looking bad for Michael for a long time. And i must admit the first thing i thought when i heard the news was “dang, ian was right!” (of course, i am more of a metal head/garage rock fan and never had an emotional connection w/ the king of pop musically.)

wow i am rambling today. RIP michael. i hope those kids have someone trustworthy looking out for them.

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Dang – so now many regulars are bashing Ian because he was not hypocritical in his comments about Strange Michael? Well, I find Ian’s approach refreshing! I thought strange Michael was creepy and if Ian predicted the death 6 months ago – good for Ian and his ability to get some real news! I liked some of strange Michael’s music but I am not broken hearted that he is dead – sad for his kids thats about it for me. Keep up the good reporting Ian – I like what you write and your straight forward and honest style.

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@ladybert62:
Well, you do have a point Lady. Perez Hilton, if he isn’t having a bad enough week is now having an even worse week because he’s under fire for being a hypocrite. He has spent years bashing MJ and now he’s all wailing and crying like a baby on his twitter and people like Joel Madden, Ashley and Pete Wentz and Samantha Ronson are calling him out on it.

Look, MJ had his private hell to live, he made some mistakes, but he was the highest selling pop star of all time, he started out so young that many of us actually grew up with his music. He was a musical genius and none of us can ever know what it felt like to be him. All I know is its very sad when someone so talented and who gave the world such beautiful music for so long dies at such a young age. Its not any different then say Mozart who was a musical genius but had a really insane and addictive life, no matter what his personal demons were he still created beautiful music that is still being played 400 years later.

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Also, havent heard from Lionel Richie or Nicole Richie. Lionel was really good friends with MJ, they wrote We are the World together and MJ was Nicole’s godfather. I hope she is okay.

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@Tamara:
HI Tamara – Thanks! and I agree with one of your earlier posts about HariKari Girl – as in, ‘Huh”? Seems to be a strange Friday!

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@tinitina:

Here, here!!

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What a week! First Ed McMahon, then Farrah, then Michael. Then……..one of my really good friends accidentally ran over his beloved dog last night and the vet had to put him down. They are absolutely devastated, as in can’t get out of bed devastated! I’ve been feeling queasy all day! Blah!

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@Kate:
Kate, do tell, what are you talking about? What happened with HKG? I have reread the thread twice and it alludes me!!

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Personal opinion of course: Michael Jackson was running away from many internal demons – in my opinion, becasue he was constantly changing his face told me that he could not even look into a mirror (at whatever new face he had at the moment) and see anything that he liked! He was always trying to become “a female who was not black” – why? I have no idea. I am sure scores of books will be written about his strange mind and life.

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@Tamara:
That is so sad – if I ran over one of my two cats, I would also be in shock! They are my kids and I love them more than anything (except sweet hubby) – my sympathy goes to your friends and I hope you are feeling better yourself!

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@ladybert62:

My sympathy to your friends, losing a furbaby is so tough. And they are family members, sometimes the easiest ones to get along with

It sure has been one of those weeks, huh? Aren’t we all due for a few weeks of really, really good news? I hope you start feeling better, too.

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@Tamara:

I *think* that HKG was reacting to Ian’s post about MJ, and then Tintina’s post about Ian was the last straw. And Kate was expressing surprise that HKG would buy into Tintina because she appears to be a plant. Please notice she came on here to bash Ian and did not respond to my reply at all. It just seems like people bash Ian saying he is reporting unsubstantiated claims or his reporting style, but in the process of doing the bashing they do the same thing – never one fact to support their claims against Ian.

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@too curious:
Thanks too curious – except for my arthritis, the sprained muscle in my back from my working-vacation in Oregon, today’s migraine, my high cholesterol, my high blood pressure – I feel fine! It is Tamara’s friend who ran over a pet – not me! And Tamara is feeling blue and ill – so I hope she reads this for your get better wishes! Ha ha – hope your day is going fine – thank god it is friday T.G.I.F.!

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LOL – Yea I knew Too Curious was talking to me but replied to you! haha We’re all discombobulated today! Re HKG it just seemed like all of a sudden she got P.O.d and said Im outta here, and it seemed to be kind of out of the blue.

The news channels are playing all MJ songs and when you hear them all put together like this it reminds you of why he was the King of Pop and the highest selling musician of all time!! Soooooo many good songs. BEN breaks my heart, I was just a little girl when that came out and it was so sad that a boy only had a rat to play with, and 40 years later it still breaks my heart!!

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@ladybert62:
I too love my doggies and my cat so much!!! Their love is so pure, I am their reason for living, and they are my constant companions. I can’t even go to sleep without them! haha So you can imagine, me my hubby, our two dogs and our cat all in bed together at night! LOL

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Seriously, Ian, that is so tacky. You did not predict his death. Geez…you are really working my nerves as of late.

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@Tamara:
Ha ha – you gave me a good laugh – sounds so crowded and full of love and fun! My hubby snores so LOUD that I can hear him through walls (he has been banished for years to a different room for his sleeping – works fine for us!). So both cats usually sleep with me (Bert snores but not like hubby – Lady and I just laugh at Bert’s snoring! – “like father, like son” she is fond of saying! then she pushes him off the bed- yes I anthropormorphize everything!)

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@Tamara:
@ladybert62:

Oops, glad y’all figured it out! And Ladybert I’m glad you are doing well today

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@ladybert62:
HAHAHA!! My hubby works away from home all week and only comes home on weekends, so we can put up with him for two nights (LOL Or….is he putting up with US??? LOL) But there are times when he needs a good nights sleep and I tell him to sleep in the other room, but you know what, he kind of thrives on the chaos and crowded bed cos he’s home with everyone he loves most in this whole world. He will be home tonight, Awwwwww! Its nice though, during the week I just eat cereal for dinner if I want to, I can watch Lifetime Movies if I want, or some stupid reality show! LOL

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@ladybert62:

Hey, my kitty “talks”, too! And you better believe he understands English! I’m not sure if he thinks he is human or if we’re just large not-so-talented cats

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@Tamara:
You made me laugh again – the perfect marriage arrangement! I dont cook – I eat lots of yogurt, cereal, etc (I had to do cooking, taking care of sisters and when I was growing as mom was ill so I said – “no kids, no cooking”!) (I do do all the cleaning though – that doesn bother me!) So if hubby wants dinner, he cooks it himself! See, the arrangements one makes to have a happy home!

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@too curious:
I agree – Bert and Lady understand English – they are constantly trying to teach me “kitty talk” but I am a slow learner – if I dont understand want they want, they resort to physical acts of intimidation until “dummy mom” figures it out! Oh, the things they have to endure living with humans! Ha ha

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The article I just read someplace on the internet said: (1) Michael Jackson was not the biological father of the three children; (2) they were home schooled by Jackson and never interacted with other kids except each other; (3) there will be a custody battle if the biological of the first two decides she wants them – I guess the littlest kid has a bio mom some place in Europe – but no one know who she is (??). The only adult figure in their lives was Michael Jackson. Wow, what a transition they are going to have to make to wherever they end up and with whom. :_)

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Imagine my shock! You’re all crazy cat ladies!

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Ian u SOB where is my post? Thought u didn’t have a moderator???

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@Keane’s Cat:
Thanks Keane’s Cat – I consider that a compliment! Peace.

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@Tamara:
Me too. Glad I’m not the only one.

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This is very sad.
I was one of the people that thought it possible what Ian reported about MJ dying ‘may be’ true. Prehaps MJ did suffer from Alpha 1 Antitrypsin Deficiency.
WHO could make up a disease that?
I know alot of about A1AD – I have it.
The only question that I have – if MJ had A1AD – are there other family members who suffer from it as well?
It’s a gentic disease – a FAMILY disease – and being from a family of NINE – I find it difficult to believe Michael could be the only one (???)
So, I guess well have to wait for the autopsy reports. I’m interested to see if his lungs (or liver) were trashed.

About A1AD -
It’s a genetic disease – two defective genes, one from each parent (you are BORN with it). You don’t “get it”, Ian!!!
The genes tell the liver to produce defective AAT enzymes that become trapped in the
Liver. The build up can cause Cirrhosis.
Due to the lack of enzymes in the blood, and are ESSENTIAL for maintaining healthy lung tissue – the lungs will become damaged – causing rapid damage – emphysema – no, you do NOT have to be a smoker.
Average age of symptoms is around 30. Only treatment to slow progression is a weekly IV infusion. If the lungs beome too damaged (or liver) the only option is transplant.

This disease is VERY hard on the HEART. The heart & lungs work together.
When the lungs are damaged, the heart has to over compensate.

Even if ‘drugs’ were a factor in MJ’s death — it wouldn’t susrprise me that he died.
Anything that supress the respiratory system – well……….

I guess we’ll see.

RIP Michael – you will be missed.

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@Keane’s Cat:
Oh yes, but don’t forget the dogs too!! IMO anyone who doesn’t love animals is missing something in their heart, you’ll never know the pure unconditional love that you can only get from a dog, and as much as I love and adore my husband there is a special bond that I share with my dogs that only another animal lover could understand. I feel sorry for you if you haven’t experienced that!

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Lady – they didn’t have Here Be Dragons at my library, so I got The Reckoning. I hope I haven’t stepped into the middle of a series???

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@Tamara:
Bravo to Tamara! Picture me clapping!

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@Tamara:
Yikes – that is the last one of the series! Dang if I had your address I would actually send you my hardcopy since I just ordered another one for my kindle! They have it at Amazon if you can afford to buy it!

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@ladybert62:
This is what confuses me. Ian said MJ had a disease and only had 6 months to live. If that is true then why didn’t MJ start making permanent arrangements for his kids if he knew he wasn’t going to live much longer. He loved those kids so much and he would have wanted to make sure they would go to a family member that would not only keep his memory alive but love his kids as much as he did. I can’t imagine he would want them with his father, he would never want to subject them to the kind of childhood he had growing up. Of course, THEY wont be Joe’s cash cow so maybe he would be a bit easier on them, but IMO once a child beater, always a child beater and Katherine has never stepped in to try and stop him.

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@ladybert62:
Ohh, Okay, I won’t read that one yet then. I might just have to go to Amazon and buy Dragons.

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Good point Tamera. Did MJ make plans for his children? I dunno…..

I would also like to know where Ian got his info.
I take A1AD very seriously and personally. It’s ruined my life! There is such a lack of awareness, it’s even scarier, yet. I spent 10 years trying to figure out what the hell was wrong with me. I’ll spend the rest of life fighting for air – literally.
When Ian reported that MJ had this disease – I didn’t doubt it.
But when the sources close to MJ denied it – it light a fire under my ass.

Somebody’s lying ————-

I’m just waiting to see what happens.

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@Tamara:
Your post makes sense to me! I dont know much about his family and growing up – sounds quite unpleasant. But perhaps he did make some kind of will and provision for the kids that just has not come to light yet. We can only hope!

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@ladybert62:
OMG he was absolutely vicious. Those boys were his cash cow, he was their manager and he ruled with an iron “belt”. They had no life growing up, just practice, perform, practice perform, and if they didn’t get a dance move just perfect he would beat them. When MJ was a very young boy he had them performing in Strip Clubs and really seedy bars. Joe was a wannabee singer who never made it, but he saw his chance with the boys and he lived vicariously through them. The Mom never stepped in, she was too scared of him.

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wow Ian classy as always i see. You never miss an opportunity to pay yourself on the back do you ?

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@ladybert62:

I hope he thought to make arrangements for his children. I didn’t read IUC back then, so I’m not clear – did MJ himself really know & accept the diagnosis? I can imagine his “handlers” telling him “of course you are not going to die anytime soon” and him believing. Plus people surrounded by “yes” people often get a little delusional, not to mention if he was using all of the medications suggested by the family spokesmen and prior articles. Even if he wasn’t abusing medications, it doesn’t mean they couldn’t have made him a bit out of it.

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I’m sure I don’t need to point this out as everyone with half a brain knows this but no-one will be doing an expose on Ian or Perez any time soon. Basically Ian is nowhere near well known enough to warrant a supposed expose yet, no-one would give a shit tnough to read it so no-one would bother to print it. To be the subject of an expose you have to be a significant politician or business person or a pretty famous celeb. Ian is nowhere near that level yet. Perez is almost famous enough but there is just nothing to expose, all he does is do juvenile doodles on photos and openly bash people, nothing to uncover there folks unfortunately! So just in case anyone was wondering I highly doubt anyone will be doing an expose on either of them any time soon. As usual the poster who suggested it is full of shit.

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@keane cyber queen supreme:

And that is why I couldn’t resist asking “TIntina” to share what she knew instead of hinting. Not completely appropriate, but that old song “nothin’ from nothin’ leaves nothin’, gotta have somethin’…” come to mind

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@too curious:

comes to mind, pardon my typing today!

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Pictures or it didn’t happen!

I am a cat. I love cats. I love crazy cat ladies too.

@Tamara:

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IUC exclusive: On December 24, 2008 I told In Touch Magazine senior editor Noah Levy Michael Jackson had “six months to live,” after I learned that he had a life-threatening condition. In Touch published an indepth story on my research. The next day, Jackson’s official spokesman Tohme Tohme said my report was “a complete fabrication.” Jackson, he assured the world, was in “fine health.” I was off by a day. Enough said.

Finally feel like the BIG man on the block?

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http://blogs.myspace.com/lisamariepresley

Lisa Marie’s MySpace blog message on her ex.
(*sound of cuckoo clock*)

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Just heard on CNN that Debbie Rowe did not give up her parental rights to the two children she bore for Michael Jackson, and therefore will likely be awarded custody IF SHE WANTS THEM….what the eff? ( The judge overturned his earlier ruling taking her rights from her at her request) What sort of mother (attempts) to sign off on any rights to her children not once but TWICE? and still ends up with custody when the custodial parent dies? Now i will worry more about these children than i did before.

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@Keane’s Cat:
Glad to know you love cats also. We have one siamese ( who has three babies), her mate who is a persian bob-tail, one calico (who has two bob-tailed kittens and one tiger kitten) and her mate another large bob-tailed male, my son has me baby sitting his polydactyl ( 7 toed Hemmingway) female for a week. None of these are actually mine, i just feed them as their “people” were involved in the real estate crash and lost their home…they just upped and left , and the kitties were on their own….say…..anyone want a cat??…..lol

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@too curious:

Yep and you also have to check out the highly emotive (and that’s putting it mildly really) language. Ian is “demented” etc. Not the sort of angry tirade you would expect from a cool-headed, impartial, balanced, judiciously-minded journalist. It’s the sort of language you would get from someone who is severely pissed off that something Ian has said which was strongly contested has proven likely to be true. Someone who wants everyone to think that Ian is a clueless muck-raker who fabricates stories to sell books or reports them without doing proper corroboration/substantiation. That was the plan anyway. I think this has put rather a big old thorn in someone’s side. JMO!

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@Patty Anne:
I do remember in a interview she was frightened and could not talk about the kids, I think it is possible she was forced. She was fighting back the tears.

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@Patty Anne:
You are so GOOD Patty Anne – and those people who just left them are evil – I could never ever ever do that!! If I could take one, I would. I would contribute to a “kitty litter $” request though if you asked!

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@Patty Anne:
I dont think she wants them and I bet the rest of the Jacksons would fight against her too (I have absolutely no proof of any kind for this statement – just an instinctual opinion!)

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@ladybert62:

It is very possible she loves her kids but dealing with the Jacksons must be quite difficult I would think – how many times have you heard of “handlers” keeping a relative away from a loved one? And it could be a case of her rocking the boat causing her and the kids more pain in some way. I think the Jackson family will be determined to keep their hands on those kids, if for no other reason than future royalties…

Sad situation about the kids, and with MJ’s history of being abused and accused of child molestation, who knows what these kids have been though? Honestly, I doubt there is going to be any remotely more normal about their future than there was in their past…

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MJ’s autopsy findings to be released this afternoon (4 p.m. EDT, 3:00 p.m. CDT, 1:00 p.m. PDT). Announcement said the coroner is meeting privately with family before then.

They are unlikely to have most toxicology results that quickly, so this will be preliminary findings I would presume.

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My cats are more like a girl gang. No pedigree, no proud lineage, just sharp claws and bad attitudes. I fully expect to come home and find them drawing eyebrows on with sharpies.@Patty Anne:

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@Patty Anne:
If her parental rights were not terminated then she is probably considered the next of kin, which she is bc for 2 of the kids, she is the closest blood relative. There is no way to know at this time what provisions may or may not have been made. If he died intestate which is actually possible and did not create a trust and guardians for the kids, it will be a mess and pile on the millions of debt, it will be ugly. The state laws of intestate succession will come in to play. I am tired of this deathgasm on TV. He was an entertainer for gods sake!!!! The US Congress is about to pass cap and trade, a bill that will force utility companies to retrofit to become “green”. It is estimated that this will increase the average American’s electric bill alone by 90%. And what is on my TV? Michael Jackson Death Orgy. I hate these people. Please America, go back to sleep. The genius’ in Congress have this one under control. After all, they have never let you down before have they?

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@Constant Gardner:

And that is precisely why I am watching an NCIS marathon and surfing the ‘net…

Oh, and either I misread the time for the autopsy results or they postponed in by 30 minutes. Reminds me of after Anna Nicole Smith dies, we had to have the news on at the office I worked at then, and it was disgusting…the countdown to the autopsy results, etc.

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I once loved a man with one testicle. Tinfoil that.@Constant Gardner:

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@Keane’s Cat:
Hi Keane’s Cat – well, that is still better than evil Ms. Jolie – who “lives”, “loves” a man with none! (referring to hapless of course!). Ha ha

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@Keane’s Cat:
HAHAHA!!

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Perhaps people gossiped about Michael so ruthlessly that it truly hurt him and caused serious damage. He was probably more talented than any of us, and now he is gone.

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@Constant Gardner:
Yea, that bill is going to hurt our pocketbooks for sure, but Im of two minds about it. One, I really believe that the utility companies should seque to solar energy. We had a terrible ice storm here in Arkansas this winter, put half the state in the dark and I have never been so cold in my life. I was lucky I had a generator so I could keep a light on and make coffee. I have gas water stove and water heater so I was able to take hot showers and cook, but I didn’t have heat and my babies and I were freezing. If we had solar solutions we wouldnt have lost the power for 2 weeks!!! On the other hand, we don’t have the kind of money to increase our electric from 100 to 200.

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@ladybert62:
LOL

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My late cousin, a poet, had a black cat she named Emily Dickinson.
She told me she once peeked in on her cat as she, ED, sat on cousin’s dresser drawer. There was Emily Dickinson sitting in front of the mirror, preening and posing every which way.

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@Ms Agatha:

Ian deserves to be bashed. He’s a self-glorifying toerag. Equally ‘likely’ is the fact Mr Jackson could be sitting in a corner of a sun-kissed island somewhere laughing at everyone.

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@Tamara:
The reason I do not support this bill is that for one, I do not buy into the global warming hoax, to me it is just an excuse to tax the fuck out of us even more. Oh they are going to tell me to recycle and have a trash police? Like that makes a lick of difference when corporations are filling the air and water with their toxic by products! For another, while the bill forces the utility companies to retrofit to go green, they most assuredly will pass 100% of those costs on to the consumer. In FLA when we had like a 2 year run on damaging hurricanes, it turned out that there were some new developments where electricity wiring was run underground instead of above ground. You know, where wind can’t destroy them. Those were the only people with electricity. The rest of us went a full month with no power, non potable water, etc. Everyone raised hell with FP&L to rebuild underground. What did they do? Rebuilt the same shitty above ground infrastructure and forced all of the cost onto us, the so called customers.

I am glad you have a generator. I have a child in Little Rock and know how brutal the cold (and heat) can be in ARK. Best to have this type of backup plan. Few people do so you are ahead of the majority.

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@Keane’s Cat:
Good for you. It made half the work of pulling the other one off and hanging it on your Christmas tree didn’t it?

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@Constant Gardner:
Same here,not on that bandwagon either, Al is going to get his little globe handed back to him in a Easter Basket when all the little chickies come home to squittle.

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@too curious:
Meant to say , I agree, if Brange split (officially) now it would scoop the press, and they would be scurrying around like rats trying to decide who to cover. Stick around to see why Micheal’s Dr. split the scene or track Bradley down.

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@Kate:

No way! Angelina will not be upstaged by anybody, she is the most powerful celebrity in the world! When her and Brad announce the split she wants wall to wall press coverage for the following 10 months solid at the very least. There should not be a day when her mug is not splashed all over the front covers. Angelina will want to sell the end of the relationship just as much as she sold the beginning and the middle i.e. as much as humanly possible. How else does she get publicity after all? By saying “refugees are awesome”? No, nobody cares about that. All they care about is the split of the holy ones and she knows that. She’ll milk that split for all its worth just like she’s done everything else in her life. The world will be throwing a huge pity party for poor sad, single Angie for months on end, you just wait!

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@Keane Cyber Queen Supreme:
True, but that is not what (he) wants. I meant Bradley should release it , scoop her, the way Kate scooped Jon.

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@Keane Cyber Queen Supreme:
Dang – a good one Keane! Absolutely cracked me up …

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@Kate:
and that’s another good one Kate – you guys are on a roll today!

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And a note to all – I have decided to confess – to tell the truth to the world – that I have suddenly recovered a repressed memory and – are you all ready – that I am Blanket’s Mom (you know, MJ’s third little kid who seems to have the name Blanket! but no mom to identify with). MJ decided that we did not want the world to know it yet (in light of my menopausal years) – but – never fear, we worked out a solution (and as soon as I recall what that solution is, I will tell it to you, my friends!) But Yes, it all came back to me while I was getting some documents notarized during lunch and I realized that yes indeedy I do need more money – and suddenly, there I was, the true mom to Blanket! Just call me Big Blanket or Super Blanket or Secret Blanket – any name is acceptable as long as I start getting some support checks from the Estate! So what do you all think of my big secret – other than its in bad taste to reveal it now! ha ha

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Boy, Ian, you really are a piece of trash. Gloating about a prediction that hasn’t even proven to be true yet. If he had that lung disease, it will be reported on the autopsy. And, as of yet, those results are not even public yet. And, I’d be wiling to bet every cent I have that the results aren’t gonna show the lung disease you said he had. It’s the toxicology results that are important. He was on a variety of different meds (zoloft, demorol, etc.), so there’s a chance his death was the result of mixing these meds. Just like Heath, just like Anna Nicole.

I was not a fan of MJ. I think he had serious mental issues and I’m not into pop music. But, your post is really classless. I guess I should say that I am not surprised. Just like Perez should be called out on his bullshit, so should you.

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@Cherie:
Cherie – you havent read classless until you read the one I just posted! Just joshing …..

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@Kate:

Yeah that’s true, Brad should scoop her just like our Peter Andre did to our Katie Price (Britain’s answer to Brangelina of course!). I’m thinking it may be a wee bit too soon after the Cannes display of togetherness though for our Bradley. Methinks it would make him look something of a hypocrite! Nah, end of this year at the earliest I reckon. JMO!

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@Constant Gardner:
Im from Florida, I lived there for 32 years so I consider myself a native haha! In all those 32 years I didn’t go through any major hurricanes until 2004 and then WHAM!!! I lived in Stuart and Francis hit us directly and we were without power for 7 days. It was the weekend of my beautiful beach wedding, we had relatives who flew in from England and Scotland…the day before the wedding we had to cancel the whole thing, I never did get to wear my wedding gown. We spent our “honeymoon” with all our relatives in our 2 bedroom apartment without power while Francis whirled around us for 5 days before passing. The most important thing in our lives then was ICE! haha Now you know why I have a generator LOL

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@ladybert62:
The truth of the matter is that I was thinking about “little blanket” and started to realize that since no one “knows” who his mom is – the hills are going to become alive with mystery woman claiming to be the mystery mom! What do you guys think!

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@ladybert62:
hahahahahahahahahahaha

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@Tamara:
Glad you enjoyed it Tamara! Probably very poor taste on my part – but hey, thats the Irish in me!

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@Tamara:
Oh my god – the wedding nightmare from hell! Its a good thing you have a great sense of humor!

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@ladybert62:
You’re too funny, you very often make me LOL, I think you write just like you talk hahaha

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@Keane’s Cat:
Roflmao Your cats sound like fun! I love dogs also, but there is something so primative about cats….survivors, preditors of the wild…yea, i guess cats are my favorite. My granddad who was from England used to sit at his breakfast table with knife in one hand, fork in the other and two cats sitting on the table opposite him, waiting for him to fling them a bite or two. I think i learned my appreciation for felines from Grangpap Tay

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@ladybert62:
Big Sigh! LOL Well, its given us a good drinking story over the years! haha My gown is still hanging in plastic in my closet…..

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@Tamara:
I do – I do – and I havent even had any Bailey’s yet today! I have been told (well hubby has too since we are both from Wisconsin) that we talk like Canadians? Guess Canuck (if she ever returns to this site) can verify that one! (I am so glad its Friday – have got to get away from this office.)

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@Keane Cyber Queen Supreme:
I read an article today, forgotten where , but i suppose it is Googleable, stating that Brad Pitt talked his Republican brother out of running for Congress ( R. Missouri)…How considerate of Democrat Braddy…BTW, ….the article still refers to Doug Pitt as “Brad Pitt’s younger brother and spokesperson”…i wonder if Brad knows this?…lol (Might have been Pittwatch)

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@Patty Anne:
I especially love my cats when they are both sitting there staring straight at the blank, empty wall, or the ceiling, and seeing ‘Something” that I can’t see – their tails swishing back and forth and they just sit there staring! I wonder if our house is haunted!

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@Tamara:
Do like what is the name of that beautiful “German-like Goddess” model (Heidi Klum?) – she and her husband repeat their wedding vows every year in a different setting! You could wear your dress on one of your anniversaries and just get married all over again! Sounds like fun …

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@Cherie:
Hi Cherie, I have thought about this, if IAN thought that MJ was going to pass at this time, and said that, which he did, and he planned the release of his book at this time, he had to know that an autopsy would be done, and that it would reveal all. Now if the autopsy reveals he is right he is pretty PR savvy as Brad preffered to say about Miss Jolie ,setting the book release at this time. On the other hand, if he is wrong, and does not have solid sources, and still stands by them, and his statment that Michael would not be with us still by this date, and he allowed his book to be released knowing he may be proved wrong with an autopsy, well, I am not I would know what to say, because he is not that stupid. Is anyone that stupid? The only saving face would be if the autopsy was sealed and there was a cover up, but that is not likely. jmo

Does this make sense ? Just thinking outloud, I am wondering if IAN was predicting he would not live 6 months due to his lifestyle , health in general, or to the fact that he needed to have a lung transplant and was bleeding internally? I don’t know the answer to that. I am sure at some point he will discuss this and make it more clear, he was suppose to be dealing with the courts today and Mr. Guy L.

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@Cherie:
Michael Jackson’s long time friend and “big brother” Deepak Chopra, stated today on CNN that Michael also suffered from Lupus, a chronic inflammatory (autoimmune disease)disease. Seems Michael was not that well….RIP Man In The Mirror…..

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@Tamara:
Solar energy would be awesome!!!! I live in Houston and was without power for 2 WEEKS last September due to hurricane Ike. It was SO HOT death would have been a sweet release! September in Houston is still high 90’s (and it sucks!).

I read somewhere that Debbie Rowe was just the incubator, not the blood mother. I cannot say whether this is true or not, but it would definitely put a wrench in that plan. Does anyone know anything about that?

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@ladybert62:
I totally know what you mean! Samuel J. Cat ( my former feral neutered tom cat) will stop suddenly in our home, late at night while i’m watching TCM ( The Thin Man, etc.) and stare at the ceiling….gives me the creeps! I just tell the elderly gent who built this home that i’m taking good care of it, and for him to go to bed….whew! shivers all over. One night, years ago, i suddenly awoke in the dead of night ( 3 a.m.) and turned my head to the left ( i sleep on the left side) and “Saw” my hubby stanging alongside me, looking down at me as i lay there, with palms upward and arms down….i slid my right arm slowly over to feel his side of the bed, and yes, he was there, beside me. I have no idea what the hell this was about, but it was real. The streetlight was shining through the window just over my head, and illuminated his “apparition” just well enough i could be sure it was he. Anyone have any ideas about this? And feel honored, i don’t ever repeat this….yano what most people would say….

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@ladybert62:OMG, I’ve been lurking and that was hilarious. I think you should go by “comforter” — it’ll evoke warm fuzzies in court. Go comforter!

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@Keane’s Cat:
Have you ever uttered a thoughtful considerate word in your life? You are not funny by the way and you clearly don’t like this place so just leave darling. I’ve been gone for a few weeks and I come back to the same crap with you. it truly is not funny. Perhaps you might channel your energy into something that you could enjoy and be a bit more successful at.

Shoo cat….i said shoo cat…go away cat.

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@Knowone:
Why thank you Knowone! I am glad you like my sick Irish humor! And I like your new name “COMFORTER” much better than mine – that is funny!

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@Kate:
I posted earlier that if MJ had a disease and knew he was going to die that he would have made provisions for his children. Which leads one to think maybe there was not a life threatening disease but rather a series of contributing factors like the drugs and the the resulting failure of internal organs. So maybe Ian’s prediction had more to do with lifestyle rather then a life threatening disease.

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@ladybert62:I think it has a better ring to it than duvet, don’t you?

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@Patty Anne:
Wow

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@Patty Anne:
Wow – that is a strange one about the apparition – I will think about that tonight – was he dreaming about you? Did you ask him?

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Patty – are you absolutely sure you were awake? You know how sometimes you dream that you are awake?

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@Patty Anne:
My little Kady likes to chase the light from a flashlight. That is her favorite game haha

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@Knowone:
I think it is extremely appropriate! It conveys the right sense of caring for the youngun – Blanket – and yet reflects intelligence and a certain flair – I think blankey will like it too! But is he big enough yet to pronounce it? How old is my son? ha ha

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@Tamara:
I tried that once with Bert and Lady – they both looked at each other, then at me, then they walked away and went to the food bowl. Also, I am always really touched when Bert goes to the food bowl and does with his front paw “the movement that he is burying his poop in the kitty box.” Then he looks at me and walks away. I always feel so special then!

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@ladybert62:Hey LB, if you adopt the name “afgan” you might be able to claim your son blanket as a refugee, and then maybe you can enlist Holie to help you in the court case…you know how she bleeds for the welfare of refugees. Afgan and blanket, finally reunited. I can see it now….lol.

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@Knowone:
Stop – stop – that is hysterical! I am laughing so hard I am going to have a seizure! People at work are convinced I am crazy lately (just since I started reading at IUC) and now I am literally falling off my chair. That is a GREAT one knowone!

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@Knowone:
ROTFLMAO

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@ladybert62:
@ladybert62:After you win the court case for custody of little blankey (we need to determine that boy’s age, pronto), then I see it as a Lifetime Movie of the Week….maybe AJ can play you (Afghan)…she already does look post menopausal, and I do believe in good time she’ll appreciate any acting roles she can get. You’ll just have to keep a good grip on Blankey so she doesn’t steal him. LOL

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@Tamara:

I have a suspicion that he knew he wasn’t well or had much time length which was why he arranged those 50 dates which he couldn’t possibly have achieved in a million years. Bit of cash to offset the debts for the kids? I don’t think he ever had any intention of performing those gigs. Have no idea how they got him insured for those gigs though, must have been a lot of “being creative with the truth” going on by someone somewhere I would have thought. Meanwhile tickets have been changing hands for thousands of pounds and the Millenium Dome/O2 Arena could be seriously f*cked. Who on earth thought it was a good idea to book him anyway? I would have bet my house that he would never have managed to do a single one of those gigs.

And as for his death, am I the only person who is not remotely surprised or shocked by it? The man seem to have been falling apart for years physically and I never saw him living for long. When he came to the union (a good 8-10 years ago now), he was on crutches with a broken ankke or something even then. He has looked frail and like he’s at death’s door for years to me. And I did believe Ian when he said he had a disease. If you’re going to be that specific about something it’s pretty sure he had good evidence for it. Not that the illness necessarily killed him by itself, it was probably a mixture of that and the abuse he’s done to himself over the years.

@ Vittorio – thanks for posting that link to the Vanity Fair article BTW. I’m afraid I always thought MJ was guilty of those allegations and my mind hasn’t changed. As sorry I feel for the family I can’t shed any tears for him I’m afraid. And I never bought into the whole “King of Pop” (which is a title he/his PR people dreamed up BTW, not the public) hype. He was just a pop star to me, and not one that I have ever been into or have significant memories of. Apart from maybe that dreadful Brits appearance where he adopted a Christ-like persona so Jarvis Cocker jumped on stage and wiggled his arse at him (great man!). I think he was the original PR mastermind (Ange has nothing on this man) who deliberately set out to control the press as much as possible by releasing crazy stories that everyone bought into (the sleeping in the oxygen chamber business or whatever it was, the pet chimp) and talking in that false voice. And you can only wonder what he was hoping/trying to cover up by doing that. I can’t jump on the MJ was a legend bandwagon unfortunately. I was actually more shocked when ANS died and way, way more upset when Heath Legder died. The second was such a tragic waste of such a gorgeous young man. The first was just too horribly sad and depressing a life from start to finish to really contemplate. But MJ, I don’t feel anything for really.

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@Knowone:
Stop! I am laughing so hard I am crying! My mascara is all over the keyboard! Dang, that is funny! I cant wait tell my hubby about our new future together with Blankey and the upcoming movie!

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@Patty Anne:

Sorry to be a sceptic but you weren’t on an medication at the time were you? Some of the meds my mum was on once gave her hallucinations like that, a man in her bedroom, sounded really scary. SImilarily a girl I was at college with used to wake up in the room she had in her first year (big old creepy house) and see a man sitting on the chair by the bed. She would get up to go the loo and when she got back he would still be there. She saw him all the time. I was so freaked out about it I was like how on earth could you continue to sleep there? She was so calm about it. Her and her family do suffer from a few mental disorders though (anxiety, severe OCD etc) so again I wondered if it was halluicnatory or a trick her mind was playing on her. While I admit to being easily spooked, I don’t actually believe in ghosts (highly contradictory I know!). Well I sort of figure I don’t believe in God or an afterlife so logically there can’t be such a thing as ghosts either. However that does not mean to say I would spend the night in a haunted house!

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@Keane Cyber Queen Supreme:
Wa she Irish? We Celts are known to have supernatural powers that you Brits dont always understand! Ha ha

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@ladybert62:You started it, LB. (Can you tell that I’m the type that reverts to dark humor when tragedy strikes?) I can’t take all this celebrity death this week—avoiding the TV and radio cause I really don’t want it. But dark humor with my IUC friends, hells yeah, bring it on.

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@Knowone:
YES – me too – us Irish love funerals because then we have a party! (Sorry blankey but Comforter is taking over for the moment!)

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Besides I love dark humor – my husband and I have the same sense of humor (which most people we know, dont have) so we have great laugh sessions at home over things that others think is weird! Maybe you should come over and toss down a Baileys with us – we could have a good time! (My second favorite website is called despair.com – it is hysterical and not what you might think from the name – go read it and see what happens!).

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@Knowone:

*ding, ding* we have a winner folks!! ROFLMAO!!

On formal occasions will you use “Lady Afghan”?

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@ladybert62:Thanks for the web site rec, I’ll try it out. My “everyday” life is very serious, deal a lot with death (and a lot of supernatural experiences, too, so I do believe Patty Anne and don’t tell the “mental health” community about your experiences, they are not prepared to believe. lol. Yep, laughter is the best medicine. And bailey’s, well, to me it’s like chocolate milk, love a nice White Russian, but for me, it doesn’t do the trick. Dirty Vodka martini, does the trick. (But I haven’t drank in a year…..no “issues” just needed to face a bunch of serious stuff and opted to do it ye old white knuckle way…not even a sleeping pill. (Not recommended, ha.) I’d love to come visit you….next time I’m in San Francisco….that’s your town, right?

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@too curious:
I LOVE YOU! That is too funny!

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@Keane Cyber Queen Supreme:
Thank you for that voice of reason. it is, to me, hypocritical to wail “OMG” when we just don’t feel it. Yeah the mean was amazing in his time………but that time has passed and certainly has no bearing on the other shit. The fellow messed with kids…….i have no personal knowledge, but I know it deep in my bones and since i read that article in 2004 (believing that it would be bollocks), I have felt it so strong. yes, i blame his dad who was a stupid controlling idiot. Yes, I blame the drugs…whatever. A lot of people have crappy lives and don’t molest children.

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@Keane Cyber Queen Supreme:
I had forgotten about the monkey and the chamber bit, but yes, MJ was very good at his Public Relations. I think Janet is one hard to figure out as well, she kept her marriage secret for 12 years, all the surgery until she began to look like him. It is quite sad, that was a talented family, but I also was more affected by ANS death because she just seemed so taken advantage of, her son’s death, all of that was such a mess.

Wasn’t there something about her wanting to be buried near Marilyn Monroe. At some point after Angelina’s mother died she commented she felt she would die young as well, ANS said that too. Has anyone here ever felt that way about their own life? So many are crying, thousand’s, infinite adulation of MJ, I wonder how many movie stars hope they are remembered that way, or if they ever even think about it.

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@ladybert62:

L LOVE the Despair Inc. mugs, calendars and posters! A long time ago I worked (for a short while) at a company that had the “real” versions everywhere and sent all of us to a Stephen (or is it Steven?) Covey “7 Habits” seminar. The owner was a nutjob, btw. Having been around all of the sappy ones makes the despair versions even funnier in my mind

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@too curious:I had to go to that dumb ass seminar years ago too. I thought it was for people who are seriously work challenged. All it did was make all the people in the company obsess over making lists, at the expense of actually like, say, doing the dang work. So stupid, I thought.

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@Patty Anne:It’s called astral projection, can happen during sleep.
@Keane Cyber Queen Supreme:No you aren’t the only one, I posted when the news he was ill came out that I thought it was how he was going to get out of doing the concerts. I have never cared for him, even more after the rumors circulated in the 90’s that he was molesting boys. Even if you are abused, there is never an excuse for abusing another.

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@Kate:That’s why I think AJ will probably commit suicide, accidentally or intentionally thinking she will become an icon. When you think about it MJ isn’t really that young. He was 50, same age as my father and grandfather when they died.

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@Kate:

No definitely not, I actually get really annoyed when people say/think things like that, because unless you are taking constructive steps to limit/end your own life no-one really knows how long you’ve got. I feel people who think like that are just trying to add drama to a life which has never actually had much in it. I watched a doc a while ago where a girl who had been told she would die before her 25th birtday by a fortune teller became obsessed with it and had a death wish almost she was so melodramatic about it. The whole hour long doc was about this terrible thing she’d been told and talkng to everyone who knew her about how it had affected her and waiting out the final hours before her 25th to see whether she lived to tell the tale or not, it was ridiculous, talk about being obsessed with yourself! I just thought this girl has never had much real experience of death, and in particular dying young, because if she had she wouldn’t waste her life thinking about it. To me it was incredibly self-indulgent. Let’s just say I lost two people in my life very young (Jackson’s age in fact) when I was also very young, within 2 months of each other. My whole thinking since then has been about wanting to have as good and as long a life as possible and not to waste any time being unhappy. I just think people who think like that are looking for drama where there isn’t any. If they’d seen what I’d seen they’d grab hold of every moment of their life, be thankful for it and never dwell on the end that is inevitable for everyone.

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@Knowone:

ITA! It was a waste of my time (and the nutbag’s money)!

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@Different Guest:But apparently the perfect age for Madge to adopt a child….geez, when will these stars figure out about aging, and that certain stages in life pass by and then you go into the next stage. Motherhood at 50, and while still running around being photographed in no clothes and dating children….they’re all just a bunch of losers. OK, bitter, party of one. (That’s me today. ; )

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@Different Guest:

I actually don’t think she would do that, I don’t think she’s anywhere near as “troubled” as people think. But I could definitely see her going the way a lot of celebs go and have gone lately. I don’t think it would be intentional though.

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Ok got to go, so tired I’m nodding off here now, catch you all tomorrow x

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@Keane Cyber Queen Supreme:Funny you mention that b/c I have a real problem with “intuitives” who deliver “information” like that….and I get a lot of stories like that as people who have lost someone reach out to anyone for answers as they are so vunerable. Good intuitives (and their are some) would never say that, even if they are “gifted” with that knowledge. It is irresponsible. (I’m laughing, cause Keane, you probably think the whole field is irresponsible, but I have to say, people in grief can be greatly comforted by an intuitive that knows his/her stuff.

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My husband’s aunt was convinced she wouldn’t live past age 60. She was in the hospital with a non life-threatening illness and when her 60th birthday approached she just seemed to give up. It was such a pity. And her mother lived to be 98 so I have no idea why she thought she would only live to 60.

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@too curious:That’s weird. Seems to me that she probably knew and never told anyone. “Just gave up” might mean it was her time to go…..to the great adventure. But of course, this is just one way of looking at it, I know.

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@Tamara:
Positive i was awake…i looked backward over my head to the window and saw the streetlight glowing, and when i looked back again to the left side of my bed, he was still there, yet laying beside me. What amazed me was that i could look away to the window, look back, and he remained in that position; arms at his sides, with palms up, and a sort of smile you see a mother give a sleeping child….?!?!?….all the while i could slowly reach under the covers with my right hand to touch his warm, sleeping body. I felt no fear, none. Just utter amazement.

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@Tamara:
Awww, we do that with our cats also. They love the penlight which is a compact light…you should see Samuel J. Cat try to climb the wall to catch it!…lol

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You know why I’m so bitter today….(some might argue it’s not just an occasional mood, ha) it’s because here we are inundated with memorials for Michael Jackson when Ian attended a funeral for a six year old child yesterday. His funeral will most likely be the last time any large gathering of people will come together to discuss the magic of this boy and what he gave. After the funeral, friends will politely avoid saying the boy’s name, and the parents nightmare will have just begun. However, the masses will be discussing the amazing talent of Michael Jackson for weeks, probably months, to come.

Hey Ian, maybe you could write a paragraph or two about the boy. And we can express our sympathy for his parents and the boy and the parents will be able to see that when a “normal” person dies, a great many people are touched by it as well. I think that would be nice.

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@Knowone:Personally I have problems with allowing adoptions at that age. If you have a family history of longevity, maybe. I also don’t approve of the men who start second families in their 50’s and beyond.

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@Keane Cyber Queen Supreme:
lol. No, don’t apologize for doubting this. It happened to me and i was thinking i was nutzo there for a few myself. No, no meds, nothing going on in mylife, just a hubby who adores me, watches over me, and loves me more than i think i deserve sometimes…wink! His family is Kentucky mountain people, a lot of strange things occur up in those mountains , so his uncle tells me….wink!!

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@Different Guest:
Someone told me a few minutes ago that they saw a interview with Lisa Marie that she said when she was married to MJ he told her he felt he would die young like her father had. That is creepy. ANS said that, MJ says it, Angelina needs to look to old age , she has a responsibility to those six children. The Power of Positive Thinking, but I hear you, that thought is not out of the realm.

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@ladybert62:
My mother’s family is from 4-Mile Water, County Waterford…very Irish. We celebrate St. Paddy’s Day bigger than we do our birthdays! Dancing, singing, and drinking!

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@Kate:That’s another reason I never cared for MJ, if his children were that important to him, he should have dealt with his demons. I don’t think he or AJ had children for the right reasons and therefore would never put their needs first.

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@Different Guest:Being kind of a libertarian, I wouldn’t want laws to be imposed to prevent anyone from pursuing the life they believe they are meant to live…..I just wish people (i.e. priviledged and moneyed people especially) would have more sense. I think it’s just this stupid youth culture that promotes aging as some kind of crime, when in fact I love getting older…I’m 48 and I would not trade in my wisdom for my youth ever. Even though it came at a pretty high price….lots of trauma and tragedy, but also lots of compassion and growth. I think that’s called life….so I wish Hollywood would get a clue.

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@Knowone:

That is a lovely suggestion! And I was pretty cranky yesterday when I came on here and saw people bashing Ian for basically saying he had reported this and stood by his report. Actually I was stunned.

I hate that people are afraid to mention the name of a dead child to the family – most people WANT to talk about and acknowledge the life of the child. And for those who worry that mentioning the name to the parents will just “remind” them, they are not going to be forgetting so don’t worry about that. (I don’t have any children, but two of my older brothers died when I was growing up and I just think it is better to talk about those who have died than act like they never lived).

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Thank you for your suggestion, however, I do not care. @Vittoria:

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I saw a recent photo of Daryl Hannah…and nearly did not recognize her. She looks like that Cat Woman now….no where near looking like Daryl Hannah. And same with AJ. Her skin is pulled so tightly now it reflects the light! Her eyes squint like a cat’s, and her mouth is stretched so wide. A woman becomes more beautiful with age i believe, if she allows nature to follow it’s course. Look at Jamie Leigh Curtis, Candace Burgen, and others who celebrate their age. I prefer to show my experience, rather than look as if i’d been run through a presser and squeeshed into a flattened version of me…i rather like the me i am now

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@Knowone:I firmly believe that adults are allowed to screw up their lives anyway they choose, but you are not entitled to screw up the life of a child. Just reading over at tmz, that the Jacksons are going to fight Debbie Rowe for custody, unfortunately there is that Oprah or Barbara Walters interview where MJ said his father beat him. They will have a tough row to hoe to take the kids away if she wants them.

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@Keane Cyber Queen Supreme:
Damn…you’re hitting them out of the park today missy. Me too. My husband died two weeks after his 35th birthday. It was awful, but the silver lining was that I got to find out how strong I am. I must tell you T was a bit surprised. i didn’t think that I had that much in me. None of us know until we are put up to the challenge. I am very grateful for that life lesson so early on (32).
Damn, but when he lived, he really lived. Some people die and you wonder how because they didn’t really live. I’m also gratefull to have learnt that little lesson. we must all remeber that there are no guarantees and this may be our last day, indeed our last breath. So we better try to make the best of that!

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I’m not looking for MJ stories but one that caught my eye said that a fan got a behind-the-scenes visit to MJ’s rehearsal on Monday and that she emailed others saying he was skeletal and she couldn’t believe the people around him weren’t more concerned, she was concerned he would die soon.

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@too curious:Wow, I’m so sorry you experienced the loss of two brothers—you’re poor momma. Yes, this “new” career of mine is helping grief stricken moms talk, talk, talk. And while there has been a lot of progress made in helping people understand how important it is to do that, it is NOT embraced by most people, UNTIL they go through it themselves. So essentially, if a family is one that handles death traditionally, i.e. get rid of the stuff and move on, then it can have a devastating affect upon those who as you say, very much need to talk about the person until there is not that need anymore. Most people can’t handle all that talk and all the emotions that need to be displayed. It’s a cultural thing that is not handled well here in the good ‘old USA. I’m glad to be doing this work, but it takes a toll. I think grief counseling should be something that these dumb ass Hollywood people should be forced to do….get a grip on how real people suffer from what is considered a “natural” event. Then, they would remain “true to their craft” and maybe they wouldn’t be so damn shallow. Let’s make the screen actor’s guild force all actors to work in a hospice….that would be great.

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@Knowone:
That is a wonderful idea and I think on down the line the parents would like to have it as a keepsake.

You’re right everyone will blather on about MJ. I agree with what someone (curious too I think) said. It is a blaessing for Frrah’s family. MJ’s star eclipsed hers and the timing of the deaths will result in a lot less coverage about her. That is a good thing in this case. Let the family mourn in private.

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@Keane’s Cat:
Wow…color me shocked!!!!!!!
Shoo cat…..shoo cat….go on you mangy cat.

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@too curious:
We lost a son early, so I agree, it is better to talk about it, but it does not anger me that Michael is being remembered, his parents, sisters and brothers loved him as well. As for the comments towards IAN, he normally does say something with words of compassion so first, so I think in al fairness people were surprised not to see something like that first, and then, the comment that it is unforunate that he was right. I know IAN is not dancing on his grave , so I don’t believe he meant it that way, but you understand what I am saying, whatever anyone’s feelings are about Michael, R.I.P. would be the same if something happened to IAN and people did the same, know what I mean. I will give him the benefit of doubt that he did not mean it to be interpreted the way it was, or that he was just in a very pissy mood when he wrote that and at the time just did not really care that much what anyone thought, and I am not sure why anyone thinks he should. He has his own family, has to deal with this lawsuit today, and whatever else is on his plate. Our feelings here are pretty insconsequential in the scheme of things, and that is the way it should be. He has spent five years of his life writing a book on MJ so taking that into account, and what is in that book, besides his health issues, that may also account for his reaction. Just my thoughts. You can’t make everyone happy, so why try? who said that?

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@Vittoria:Wow, girl, that is a tough loss. I’m glad and proud of you for being so strong, and for finding a way to enjoy every day of life. YEAH VITTORIA!

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@Kate:I’m always shocked when I hear about another mom who has lost a child….I am so sorry you experienced that, but it does explain so much about your patient and kind demeanor. Yep, I thought immediately that Ian was just probably so grief sticken over the boy, he had nothing too positive to say about…..MJ, and his sorted life. And believe me, I kinda felt the same. I was not surprised by his death, but I am sorry for it. Those poor children, but I thought “those poor children” when their father was alive and could not even get out of his PJs to go to court. What does that say about his ability to parent while he was alive? (That sounds cruel, but I call it as I see it.)

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@Knowone:
Yes and I was pregnant too. That was the best part. It made me stand up rather than sit down and die, which is what I wanted to do. it blew me away to find out what strgength lay within. i had no idea and would have never have known had this not occurred. There is always a silver lining and we must always find it. Maybe the silver lining for MJ’s kid’s is that they will get a more normal life. I hope so. I also hope someone tells them they’re not muslim and don’t have to wear burkas!

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@too curious:
I think people were more offended by the fact Ian seemed to be, quite proudly, dancing on dead man’s grave. Regardless of Michael Jackson’s life, his eccentricities, his choices, challenges or shortcomings, Ian pretty much made his opinions all too clear, just a number of hours after MJ’s death. Insensitive doesn’t cover it. And, as usual, these opinions were unsubstantiated. I came to this site, firstly for entertainment, but also believing Ian to be an honest and innovative journalist, dispelling the typical Hollywood myths and lies that are now so prevalent in the mainstream media. I’m not sure I feel the same anymore – this site seems just as hypocritical as any of the others – it seems to me Ian himself is spinning a web of deceit…every story of late cites another publication as its source, the SR and 9 cent origins are dubious to say the least, and there are so many outlandish claims which can’t be backed up. I heard rumours a while ago that Ian was researching a book on internet users/blogs…given recent events, I think it’s safe to say this seems pretty much to be the case. Like HKG, I reckon I’m through with this site; the toxicity knows no bounds. Over, done, gone.

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@Kate:
Losing a child has to be beyond horrible. I loved my husband so much, bu the love I felt for him doesn’t
come close to the feelings for my daughter. you are enormously strong to have dealt with that and still be standing. I’m pretty sure that if something happens to my daughter …that’s it. not that I can’t go on, but I really just don’t want to. I do believe I could kill since i’ve had her (and I’m a total pacifist). the feeling that you have for your child does not compare to any other emotion. It is the most insane love ever.

You and your family are to be commended for getting out of bed each day and putting one foot in front of the other. God bless you lady.

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@Vittoria:You gave me the tears, V. What a wonderful gift your husband gave you to get out of bed each day. The moms who lose their only child have a tougher go in the grief recovery…yes, they have all the bed time they need, but no incentive to get out. Whereas the moms with children have not just to deal with their own emotions, but also the fragile feelings of the children to consider. It is so hard for all moms. I can just imagine how tough that pregnancy was for you.

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@AJ:Everyone has an opinion. You’ve shared yours. Have a nice life.

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@Knowone:
It was the best thing ever for me. I would have had the most massiave pity party, but I had someone else to think about. Also, supposedly I was the sahara desert of fertility so i never even babysat. had no idea what to do with the kid. perfectionist that I am kicked in though and it surely took up a lot of my energy and now here we are. she turned 13 a few weeks ago.

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@Vittoria:Bravo! My son was just 13 when he died….just two days after his birthday. That was more than four years ago. And yes, I did just give up. Stayed in bed, lost my business, developed all kinds of fears and phobias, until I found the most wonderful grief counselor who pulled me out. And now my “purpose” of late has been to do the same for others like me. I don’t earn a dime, but it has been the most important and fulfilling job (outside of being a mom, which is what I was born to be) of my life. How can anyone find this site toxic? This has been such a wonderful chat today. Thank you for it ladies.

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@Knowone:
Brilliant….absolutely brilliant. you’ve taken the most horrendous pain that there could possibly ever be and channeled it into helping others. Bravo to you strong spirit…Bravo to you. i would probably sink, drown and die in that situation. i would like to think not, but I doubt it. You definitely found the silver lining and learned how to use it.

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@Knowone:
Good for you , and bless you Knowone, and ladies I just want you to forget what AJ said here, we are not rats in a internet project for IAN, I will vouch for that. I know for a fact that is not true.

Just because I may question IAN at times, does not mean I question his charater people, it is his sources I hestitate on, not him. So for all those lurking and hoping that this IUC is going to go poof, or we are all going to end up in a book, forget it. Find something else to chat on, you have no clue.

For the comment I made yesterday , that one had been taken care of already, someone on here asked me about that, my apologies , I did not mean to confuse you , that was about a defamation case by a blogger, but it is no longer a problem.

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@Knowone:
P.S. Your counsleor is to be commended as well. That she helped pull you out of that nightmare is spectacular.

It is nice to be back everyone after a few weeks away (no internet – really sucked). Good night to all and to all a good night. catch you tomorrow.

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@Kate:

I hear what you’re saying, I’d bet the house on this one that the only problem Michael had was a drug related one, and the friends and family who didn’t care enough to stop him. And of course he didn’t listen. The drugs made him act and look hidious. He had so much potential and talent; all up in drugs. It’s claimed he was anorexic also, saw him self in a distorted way, wasn’t good enough, that would explain all of the plastic surgery on his face.

LOS ANGELES, California (CNN) — Michael Jackson knew “exactly how his fate would be played out” and feared his death would echo that of Elvis Presley, Lisa Marie Presley wrote in an online blog posted Friday morning.

Michael Jackson and Lisa Marie Presley in 1994. Presley says, “I loved him very much” and believes he loved her.

Presley — the daughter of Elvis, the “King of Rock,” and the ex-wife of Jackson, the “King of Pop” — wrote on her MySpace page that she wanted “to say now what I have never said before because I want the truth out there for once.” Her publicist confirmed Presley wrote the blog.

She said her short marriage to Jackson — from May 1994 until January 1996 — “was not ‘a sham’ as is being reported in the press,” but she divorced him because she was “in over my head in trying” to save Jackson “from the inevitable, which is what has just happened.”

Jackson talked with her about his death during “a deep conversation” 14 years ago about “the circumstances of my father’s death.”

“At some point he paused, he stared at me very intensely and he stated with an almost calm certainty, ‘I am afraid that I am going to end up like him, the way he did,’ ” Presley wrote.

“I promptly tried to deter him from the idea, at which point he just shrugged his shoulders and nodded almost matter of fact as if to let me know, he knew what he knew and that was kind of that.”

That conversation haunted Presley as she watched television coverage of Jackson’s death Thursday, she said.

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“I am sitting here watching on the news [as] an ambulance leaves the driveway of his home, the big gates, the crowds outside the gates, the coverage, the crowds outside the hospital, the cause of death and what may have led up to it and the memory of this conversation hit me, as did the unstoppable tears,” she wrote.

“A predicted ending by him, by loved ones and by me, but what I didn’t predict was how much it was going to hurt when it finally happened.”

Elvis Presley collapsed in the bathroom of his Memphis, Tennessee, mansion — Graceland — on August 16, 1977, at the age of 42. While his death was ruled the result of an irregular heartbeat, the autopsy report was sealed amid accusations that abuse of prescription drugs caused the problem.

“As I sit here overwhelmed with sadness, reflection and confusion at what was my biggest failure to date, watching on the news almost play by play the exact scenario I saw happen on August 16, 1977, happening again right now with Michael (A sight I never wanted to see again) just as he predicted, I am truly, truly gutted,” she wrote.

“I wanted to ’save him’,” she wrote. “I wanted to save him from the inevitable, which is what has just happened.”

“The hardest decision I have ever had to make, which was to walk away and let his fate have him, even though I desperately loved him and tried to stop or reverse it somehow,” Presley wrote.

Their marriage, which some suggested was only to help Jackson’s image, was real, she said.

“It was an unusual relationship, yes, where two unusual people who did not live or know a ‘normal life’ found a connection, perhaps with some suspect timing on his part,” she wrote. “Nonetheless, I do believe he loved me as much as he could love anyone and I loved him very much.”

Presley called Jackson “an incredibly dynamic force and power that was not to be underestimated.”

“When he used it for something good, it was the best and when he used it for something bad, It was really, REALLY bad,” she wrote.

Presley’s blog entry ended with a thank you to those who would read it.

“I really needed to say this right now, thanks for listening.”

Presley’s blog can be found online at http://bit.ly/5wR7p

http://www.cnn.com/2009/SHOWBIZ/Music/06/26/jackson.presley.blog/index.html

@Kate:
Kate, I don’t for a moment believe he had a lung transplant, or any such disease. The only “disease” Michael had was a drug addiction and the abuse he endured living with his family at one time and the effects of the drugs on his body. The Jackson family lawyer is even speaking out about that. It speaks volumes. Not only is this a friend of the family, he is a legal person speaking out and out about persons in his life and what Michael was doing. This is no different story than what happens to a lot of stars who take this path. Oh, there are a lot of excuses that come out in the media to protect them; they have this and they have that, but in the end, it’s their addiction to drugs – alcohol, like Elvis, Jimmy Hendrix, Judy Garland, Anna Nicole Smith, Robert Lucas, and people like Winehouse, Spears, and others need to be more cautious.

When you have a close associate of the family, who just happens to be a lawyer, publicly announce to the media that Jackson had a drug problem which was worse than Anna Nicole Smith, than no question he had. His lawyer would be up on charges for false information and defamation of character. He knows this of all people.. Jackson was dead quite a while before the media released and confirmed the news. CNN kept reporting Jackson in a coma well after most media outlets were spreading the news of Jackson’s death. It was said the Jackson family couldn’t speak to the media; couldn’t make a statement they were in such grief and shock; no doubt there is a lot to answer for. If this was your brother, son, wouldn’t you have been honest with him about the self destructive behavior he exhibited over the years, and I don’t just mean the drug allegations, I mean everything he did. This family and his friends protected Michael from the truth; like many of the above mentioned deceased stars.

People need to be honest with family, friends. It’s what grounds them and keeps them sane. There are many positive ways of being honest with someone you care about, and there is power in numbers. It can’t just come from one person; it has to come from many. I suspect, many people benefited from Micahel’s generosity, his irratic behavior and his vulnerabilty, so they kept him the way he was. No doubt in my mind that drugs will be found during the autopsy.

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And my thoughts also go to all you brave women! I have only had emotional deaths (divorces) to deal with – not the physical one yet. So it is heartening to hear all your moving stories – thank you for sharing those with us.

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@Vittoria:My counselor is from Turkey, and their culture around death is much healthier, and she was eccentric enough to get me, and what a miracle that was/is. She also had counseled women who had lost children, which is kind of a separate world in grief. So, thank you. Yes, I am a lot stronger than I ever imagined….but it has been a very wild ride—-life at its most extreme. Thank you so much for your kind words. Tomorrow, back to snark and gossip, which I can say is very therapeutic.

Night to all. XXXOOO

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@Vittoria:
I don’t think you can really compare pain of death , not truly, it runs so deep. I will be honest though I don’t think I could survive it again, it is my biggest fear, and mine are grown. I have a friend whose son died at 25 years old, prominent family, she did not leave the house for a year, husband was a zombie, and he HAD to go to work, not because of finances though. Changed them forever of course like it does everyone, but I remember her saying to me, ” we got him through school, college, his career was great, I thought we were safe” , even now that makes me tear. I think it is beyond our comprension how much we can love .

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Patty Anne, can you get me an ounce of that shit?

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Michael Jackson ‘drug link’ revealed
By Lanai Vasek
NEWS.com.au
June 26, 2009 11:26am

MICHAEL Jackson was taking prescription drugs as he battled to get into shape for his gruelling comeback tour due to start in London next month, a lawyer for the family said.

Jackson, who fought long-running battles with prescription medication throughout his career, was taking the drugs after suffering injuries during training for the concerts, attorney and spokesman Brian Oxman said.

Mr Oxman told CNN that he had harboured concerns about Jackson’s use of drugs, saying members of the star’s entourage were “enablers”. He compared Jackson’s case to the drug overdose death of Playboy centrefold Anna-Nicole Smith.

”This is not something that has been unexpected… because of the medications which Michael was under,” Mr Oxman said from the hospital where Jackson’s family members had gathered.

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”The people who have surrounded him have been enabling him… if you think that the case of Anna-Nicole Smith was an abuse, it was nothing to what we have seen in Michael Jackson’s life.

”I do not know the extent of the medications that he was taking but the reports we had been receiving in the family is that they were extensive.”

Changing looks

The iconic King of Pop remained in the headlines for the majority of his career not just for his music but for numerous health scares and physical transformations.

He was born to African-American parents in 1958, but in the early 1980s, his skin started to lighten.

In the mid-1980s, he was diagnosed with Vitiligo – a chronic skin disease that causes loss of pigment, resulting in irregular pale patches of skin.

It was around this time he embarked on a series of plastic surgery procedures, dramatically changing the shape of his nose and chin.

Surgeons have speculated that Jackson underwent multiple nasal surgeries, a forehead lift, thinned lips and a cheekbone surgery.

Jackson wrote in his 1988 autobiography Moon Walk that he only had two rhinoplastic procedures and the surgical creation of a cleft in his chin.

In 1993, Jackson said he had taken Valium, Xanax and Ativan to deal with the stress of child sexual abuse allegations made against him. He was later admitted to hospital and sent to a clinic for rehabilitation.

In 1999, rumours swirled that Jackson had transplanted some pubic hair to his jaw to try to make a Goatee.

“Why not just tell people I’m an alien from Mars,” Jackson told a reporter at the time.

“Tell them I eat live chickens and do a voodoo dance at midnight. They’ll believe anything you say, because you’re a reporter.”

Substantial weight loss

Some of the changes to Jackson’s face were, in part, due to periods of significant weight loss.

Jackson slimmed down dramatically in the early 1980s because of a change in diet and a desire for “a dancer’s body”.

Witnesses reported that Jackson was often dizzy and speculated that he was suffering from anorexia nervosa.

Some medical professionals have publicly stated their belief that the singer had body dysmorphic disorder, where the sufferer has a distorted self-image and no concept of how they are perceived by others.

The latest news about Michael Jackson’s nose was that he had found a German surgeon to repair his nose.

The doctor took cartilage from the singer’s ear to place inside his nose – after Jackson’s face was “beginning to deteriorate” due to years of alleged extensive rhinoplasty.

In recent months the singer had appeared fragile and gaunt and was rarely seen out without heavy make-up and a surgical mask.

Jackson was living in LA while rehearsing a series of 50 sold-out shows in London as part of a comeback tour.

The opening date was pushed back from July 8th to July 13th with others shows postponed. Jackson denied health problems were to blame

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The guy was addicted to drugs, nervous about making a comeback and anorexic; in no physical shape to pull of 50 gruelling concerts. The doc was with him before and during his death. The doc then takes off. This is no different than Anna Nicole Smith, and Elvis Presley and people should stop making excuses for him. I don’t doubt he went through abuse as a child, but he did take serious drugs, and docs are reporting everywhere, his family lawyer is reporting, his ex wife is reporting, he had a drug problem, and couldnt’ save him from himself and the entourgage aroudn him who stood to gain something by being around him, money, fame, exciting life.

In the end, drugs killed him, caused him to act strange, be reclusive, choose wrong friends. Take a look at Britney Spears just a short while ago until her father and mother intervened. She was heading on this same path. Thankfully, they didn’t make excuses and did something about it.

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Bitches I have been following this site for months….. I personally know Angelina she is a wonderful loving mother and Brad LOVES her and she LOVES him, they will never break up. No matter what you all say. I know for a fact that those are BRADS twins and are not retarded.

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@Keane’s Cat:
I have him picked for my dead pool. Keep smoking the cat nip cause your shit is funny. I am constantly in my garden growing my own stash. Meow

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@Kate:

Kate, do you have any update or knowledge how the court case went today in Canada for Ian ?

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I would imagine Michael Jackson had a circle of people who prevented him from getting better; kept him in the state he was in; so they could reap the benefit of being connected to Jackson and living the lifestyle they liked. Jackson was prescribed a lot of drugs in his day, doctors prescribe drugs and a doctor was with him before he died. His ex wife Presley indicated she had a hard time with him, she was in over her head. If she cared enough to tell the truth, she’d be upset with others who wouldn’t. And who do you think he would rather listen to while he was dependent; someone who is calling him up on something and telling the truth, or someone who goes along with everythign, tells him waht he wanted to hear and he never heard a complaint – most likely always praise for self destructing.

This needs to stop. These stars, famous people need to understand what’s going on; they’ve been had, the ones who aren’t honest dont’ really care; they most likely wnat something. They’re enablers. They’re are good enablers also; but for the most part; the people who end up this way, were in destructive relationships.

An enabler in most definitions is a person who through his or her actions allows someone else to achieve something. Most often the term enabler is associated with people who allow loved ones to behave in ways that are destructive. For example, an enabler wife of an alcoholic might continue to provide the husband with alcohol. A person might be an enabler of a gambler or compulsive spender by lending them money to get out of debt.

In this fashion, though the enabler may be acting out of love and trying to help or protect a person, he or she is actually making a chronic problem like an addiction worse. By continuing to lend money to the gambler, for example, the gambler doesn’t have to face the consequences of his actions. Someone is there to bail him out of trouble and continue to enable his behavior.

The term enabler is also part of the larger definition of codependency. Codependency at first arose as a definition of adaptive behaviors a person might make if he or she lives with someone with substance abuse or severe emotional problems. A codependent tends to remain so, because he or she adapts to or ignores the behaviors of the ill person. In fact, the codependent often becomes an enabler because it allows one to be involved in fewer conflicts.

For example, one spouse is an alcoholic, while the other is not. Perhaps the spouse who doesn’t have a problem with drinking has stated that she/he will no longer allow alcohol to be consumed in the house. Then the fights ensue. The alcoholic spouse violates the rules again and again.

Eventually, the non-drinking spouse may simply decide that the fights are worse than the person being drunk. He or she caves in on this issue, perhaps even purchasing alcohol for the spouse. In this way, the spouse is the enabler of the alcoholic, and is codependent, acting in unusual ways that continue to allow the spouse to behave in a destructive manner.

Enabler can be a more broad-based term for other forms of abusive and destructive behavior. The wife who refuses to fill out police reports after being abused by her husband enables his continuing to beat her. Thus the enabler often suffers almost as much as the mentally unbalanced or addicted person.

Not all forms of enabling are necessarily negative. A person can be a positive enabler in a child’s life by behaving in certain ways. For example, a father who spends time with his children, listens to them, and lets them know how wonderful and important he thinks they are is likely to enable the children to be confident and happy children. This is an enabler in the best sense of the word.

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A friend of Michael’s comes out with the truth: One doctor refused to give him drugs for his drug dependency that other Hollywood doctors gave out like candy.

Dr. Sanjay Gupta:

JACKSON ABUSED MEDICATION FOR YEARS
MICHAEL JACKSON had been abusing prescription drugs for years, according to his longterm friend, doctor and author DEEPAK CHOPRA.
Chopra reveals he has refused in the past to prescribe the star strong medication, and blamed “drug peddling Hollywood doctors” for feeding his need and causing his death.
In a passion-fuelled interview with U.S. news network CNN, Chopra listed the drugs he knew Jackson was taking, including strong painkillers Demerol and Oxycontin, the latter dubbed ‘Hillybilly Heroin’.
Chopra said, “Michael spent a week with me and at one point asked me for an prescription for a narcotic. It certainly dawned on me he was already taking these and had a number of doctors who were giving him these prescriptions, so I confronted him with that. At first he denied it, he was in a lot of pain, he said he had back pain and I knew he had muscular aches and skeletal pains from the stress he was going through. I said, ‘Michael you don’t need this…’
“There are a plethora of doctors in Hollywood – they are drug peddlers, they are drug pushers they just happen to have a medical license and I hope this episode today, this tragic death of a great human being will bring to light this problem.
“I will be bold enough to identify these people at a certain time but I think the police should do their own investigation.”
When pushed on the drugs Jackson was taking by host Wolf Blitzer, Chopra replied, “At one time I knew about Oxycontin. I knew that he would get injections of Demerol and other narcotics. I was really desperate to try and help him but you can’t help somebody who is going to deny it. In my belief, from what I know, he was (addicted).”

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These doctors need to lose their licences and face charges. They should face criminal charges.

Dr. Sanjay Gupta:

JACKSON ABUSED MEDICATION FOR YEARS
MICHAEL JACKSON had been abusing prescription drugs for years, according to his longterm friend, doctor and author DEEPAK CHOPRA.
Chopra reveals he has refused in the past to prescribe the star strong medication, and blamed “drug peddling Hollywood doctors” for feeding his need and causing his death.
In a passion-fuelled interview with U.S. news network CNN, Chopra listed the drugs he knew Jackson was taking, including strong painkillers Demerol and Oxycontin, the latter dubbed ‘Hillybilly Heroin’.
Chopra said, “Michael spent a week with me and at one point asked me for an prescription for a narcotic. It certainly dawned on me he was already taking these and had a number of doctors who were giving him these prescriptions, so I confronted him with that. At first he denied it, he was in a lot of pain, he said he had back pain and I knew he had muscular aches and skeletal pains from the stress he was going through. I said, ‘Michael you don’t need this…’
“There are a plethora of doctors in Hollywood – they are drug peddlers, they are drug pushers they just happen to have a medical license and I hope this episode today, this tragic death of a great human being will bring to light this problem.
“I will be bold enough to identify these people at a certain time but I think the police should do their own investigation.”
When pushed on the drugs Jackson was taking by host Wolf Blitzer, Chopra replied, “At one time I knew about Oxycontin. I knew that he would get injections of Demerol and other narcotics. I was really desperate to try and help him but you can’t help somebody who is going to deny it. In my belief, from what I know, he was (addicted).”

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Bravo for Gupta and Chopra for telling the truth and denying Jackson the drugs. People like the docs responsible for Anna Nicole Smith drug overdose, Presley overdose and Michael Jackson overdose need to lose their licences, face charges and be accountable. There needs to be a very strong message sent out the the medical profession that this kind of abuse will not be tolerated. When a doctor becomes an enabler, how could Jackson or anyone in his position stand a chance. He needed honesty; he might be in denial for a while, but he would have had to do it and work on himself and face life, reality without drugs and actually work through problems.

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@Ms Agatha:
No, sorry, I have no idea, I am sure IAN will let us know.

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@John:
Really, although this would be gratifying to many people, I wouldn’t hold my breath. It is far from an epiphany that celebs abuse drugs and their doctors enable them to do so with impunity. There are a lot of things that need to be done. This won’t be one of them. Can’t compromise the talent, comfortably numb all of that.

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@John:
This morning I saw Liza M. being interviewed and I thought, I wonder how she will feel when IAN”s book comes out and everything she said about MIchael is revealed while she was smoking a joint , that should be interesting. Sad too. People don’t how things can come back and just bite them, and it is on tape too from what I understand, so she can not come back and plead innocent.

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@John:
I learned today that the company that was putting on the London concerts (AEG) — put the Doctor – who was staying and living with MJ, and reportedly treated him that day – and performed CPR on him – on their payroll. In other words, MJ was under permanent surveillance of the company, for whom he had to deliver 50 concerts soon ! Does make you wonder ….. I agree with you, there needs to be a strong message sent out to the medical profession …. and when it’s involves the law enforcement profession !!!

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Lisa Marie Presley today came out and said that most of Michael Jackson’s entourage were leaches, vampires and that is why she left him. It was difficult for her to get through to him when he had enablers around. She indicated Jackson said he would die the same way her father did; as a result of drugs. He predicted his own death. He was a negative thinker, trying too hard to please people and was never hapy with himself; hence all of the plastic surgery. He tried to be perfect and didn’t realize he didnt’ need to be. Probably a result of the abuse he suffered at the hands of his father. He did have people who cared about him; but he didn’t focus on them; he gravitated towards the negative, abusers.

For Britney Spears, she is one lucky young lady that her parents cared enough and intervened. Her drugs and the people she was associating with and who surrounding her, were creating serious health problems for her. Left to her own, I truly believe she wouldn’t be alive today. Her parents made a bold, brave and courageous move.

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@Kate:
WOW…. that’s going to be a good one !…. can’t wait for that to hit the fan….

@Kate:
… would love to know and hope for the best… lol

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Doctor Who Injected Michael Jackson Has Gone Missing
June 26, 2009
by: Ani Esmailian

Image by Splash News
As Hollyscoop had previously reported, Michael Jackson had physician’s visiting him at his rented Holmby Hills home every day, but the physician that injected him right before he collapsed has gone missing.

Moments before Michael went into cardiac arrest, he was injected with a high dose of Demerol, presumably by his personal physician.

And now that same physician has gone missing. According to TMZ, the doctors black BMW was towed from Jackson’s rented home late last night and he is nowhere to be found.

Police are interested in speaking to the doctor to gather information about Michael’s last moments and what led to his death.

Jackson’s former attorney Brian Oxman said he expressed his concerns about Michael being overmedicated, but his concerns went unheard.

“He had overmedication and it was a serious problem. I had warned that this was a problem. I talked to the family about it. I warned them that Michael was overmedicated and that I didn’t want to see this case develop like it had with Anna Nicole Smith, and if that happens to Michael, it’ll break our hearts, and now its here.”

“I do not want to point fingers at anyone because I want to hear what the toxicology report says and the coroner says but the plain fact of the matter is that Michael Jackson had prescription drugs at his disposal at all times,” he added.

As always, it seems like Michael’s people were more concerned about Michael the entertainer than Michael the person. It’s a huge loss for the world of entertainment. And fans want answers!

http://www.hollyscoop.com/michael-jackson/doctor-who-injected-michael-jackson-has-gone-missing_20697.aspx

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Doctor At Michael Jackson Death Goes Missing
by Paul Cashmere – June 27 2009

Doctor Conrad Robert Murray, the doctor who lived in the Holmby Hills mansion rented by Michael Jackson and the doctor who performed CPA on Jackson after his cardiac arrest has gone into hiding.

Police are looking for Dr. Murray for questioning over Jackson’s death but have emphasised that the doctor is not a suspect.

Police confiscated the BMW driven by Murray because they believe it “may contain medications pertinent to the investigation”. The car is registered to Murray’s sister.

On May 7, Undercover ran a story on May 7, 2009 based on doctors reports stating that Jackson could collapse if he went ahead with this tour

Jackson’s attorney Brian Oxman was on record as saying Michael was in danger of overdosing from the medications he was prescribed by his “enablers”.

Oxman had stated prior to Jackson’s death that Michael was using painkillers and had become addicted to them.

The delay of the autopsy report further suggests drugs (albeit legal ones) may be found in Jackson’s body and may be the cause of his death.

Dr. Murray is not considered a missing person and he is not considered a suspect. Police only wish to question him at this time.

http://undercover.com.au/News-Story.aspx?id=8632_Doctor_At_Michael_Jackson_Death_Goes_Missing

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Police on lookout for Jackson’s doctor
27 Jun 2009, 0758 hrs IST, AGENCIES
Amid growing speculation over the cause of Michael Jackson’s death, a doctor who lived with the ‘king of pop’ has gone missing, a report said on Friday (June 26). While the autopsy report of Jackson is still awaited, people close to him have claimed that his dependency on prescription drugs, encouraged by “enablers”, led to his sudden death due to suspected cardiac arrest.

Jackson, 50, christened ‘Wacko Jacko’ for his bizarre lifestyle, sex scandals and numerous plastic surgeries, died last night after collapsing at his Bel Air mansion in Los Angeles.

“We’ve learned law enforcement is looking for a doctor who lived at Michael Jackson’s home — and the doctor is nowhere to be found,” gossip website TMZ reported. “Law enforcement sources tell us a BMW belonging to the doctor was towed from Jackson’s home last night,” it said, adding “the cops are looking to interview the doctor”.

The website, quoting law enforcement source, said “the doctor gave Jackson an injection before he died”.

Jackson reportedly may have OD’d on Demerol. “As we first reported, family members were concerned that Jackson was taking too much morphine,” it said.

Brian Oxman, attorney and spokesman of the late singer, told ‘CNN’ that there were “enablers” in the star’s entourage, who pressurized the singer to perform and pushed him towards prescription drugs.

“I believe (his manager) Frank DiLeo was with him at the time (of his heart attack), that is what I have been told. This family has been trying for months and months and months to take care of Michael Jackson,” said Oxman.

“The people who have surrounded him have been enabling him. If you think the case of Anna Nicole Smith was an abuse, that is nothing compared to what has taken place in the life of Michael Jackson,” Oxman added hinting at the role of the coterie that surrounded Jackson during his last days.

“I do not know what medications he was taking, but the reports that we have received within the family are that they were extensive. I do not know the cause of it. But it is something that I feared. This is a case of abuse of medications, unless the cause is something else,” Oxman said.

The singer, who had a history of addiction to pain killers, was reportedly on a number of prescribed drugs to combat injuries suffered during his training for the comeback. “When you warn people that this is what’s going to happen and then it happens, where there’s smoke there’s fire,” Oxman added.

According to US magazine ‘Life & Style’, the singer had been popping pills, including anti-anxiety drugs Xanax and Zoloft and painkiller Demerol, for weeks before his death and that an overdose had caused respiratory and cardiac arrest.

Meanwhile British tabloid Sun quoted a Jackson aide who said, “Shortly after taking the Demerol he started to experience slow shallow breathing. His breathing gradually got slower and slower until it stopped.”

Jackson, who was reportedly under huge debt, was hoping a turn of fortune with the success of his ‘This Is It’ concert series but had expressed his discomfort over the extended dates of the show, which was increased from 10 to 50.

http://www.timesnow.tv/Police-on-lookout-for-Jacksons-doctor/articleshow/4320664.cms

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Newshour Spl: ‘Greedy coterie killed Michael’

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The ‘king of pop’, the superstar – 50 year old Michael Jackson dies of a cardiac arrest in Los Angeles. There is a mystery over MJ’s death. Family alleges it was a greedy coterie that killed the pop icon. Los Angeles police probe MJ’s sudden death after family cries foul. MJ’s autopsy report would be out later tonight even as reports suggest an overdose of painkillers killed him.

TIMES NOW Editor-in-Chief Arnab Goswami talks with Malcom Brown, Correspondent, Washington on the issue of MJ’s family alleging that it was a greedy coterie that killed the pop icon.

http://www.timesnow.tv/Newshour-Spl-Greedy-coterie-killed-Michael/videoshow/4320658.cms

Michael would have difficulty performing 1 concert, let alone 50.

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Michael Jackson was so high on painkillers that he spent days in a stupor
By Alison Boshoff
Last updated at 10:47 PM on 26th June 2009

Jackson’s abuse of painkillers was an open secret among his family and friends
Michael Jackson’s abuse of painkillers was an open secret among his family and friends. He was often so high that he was practically in a stupor.

He took many drugs – from vitamin pills to anti-anxiety medication like Valium and Xanax. But mostly he favoured painkillers, also known as opiates.

These prescriptions for painkillers are said to have been obtained for him at great expense and quite possibly illegally by his cadre of assistants.

Jackson also once spent £41,000 on a course of cream to treat his skin condition, vitiligo.

Brian Oxman, the Jackson family lawyer, described his use of opiates as ‘extensive’.

Should the autopsy prove drug abuse to be the cause of death, Oxman promises he will name those who were complicit in his death.

Demerol seems to have been Jackson’s drug of choice – he came to rely on it during his 2005 child abuse trial.

It is also known as Pethidine and is given to women in labour. If taken alongside other sedatives or alcohol, patients can fall into a coma.

Jackson claimed he needed the drugs because of pain from a previously broken vertebrae. Yet Oxman told me Jackson was fairly fit, but was a hypochondriac.

His back and ankle ‘bothered him’, but the real issue was Jackson’s medication, which seriously restricted him physically.
Friend Tarak Ben Ammar also called Jackson a hypochondriac. ‘One never really knew if he was sick, because he had become surrounded by charlatan doctors who were billing him thousands of dollars’ worth of drugs and vitamins.’

Oxman claims people around Jackson fed his addiction. During business meetings Jackson would seem vague and distant, he was habitually late, and ‘listless’ when he did turn up for rehearsals – all side-effects of his drug habit. Attention has been focused on Jackson’s medical team.
The Los Angeles Police Department refuse to confirm the identity of the doctor they wanted to quiz, but the U.S. celebrity website TMZ.com – which first broke the news of Jackson’s death – named him as Texas cardiologist Dr Conrad Robert Murray.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1195826/Michael-Jackson-high-painkillers-spent-days-stupor.html

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JACKSON A HYPOCONDRIAC

NOTHING REALLY WRONG WITH HIM; EXCEPT ADDICTION TO DRUGS, HIS NEGATIVE THINKING AND PERCEPTION OF HIMSELF.

Jackson claimed he needed the drugs because of pain from a previously broken vertebrae. Yet Oxman told me Jackson was fairly fit, but was a hypochondriac.
His back and ankle ‘bothered him’, but the real issue was Jackson’s medication, which seriously restricted him physically.

Friend Tarak Ben Ammar also called Jackson a hypochondriac. ‘One never really knew if he was sick, because he had become surrounded by charlatan doctors who were billing him thousands of dollars’ worth of drugs and vitamins.’

Oxman claims people around Jackson fed his addiction. During business meetings Jackson would seem vague and distant, he was habitually late, and ‘listless’ when he did turn up for rehearsals – all side-effects of his drug habit. Attention has been focused on Jackson’s medical team.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1195826/Michael-Jackson-high-painkillers-spent-days-stupor.html

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@Kate:

ALso, in another context The Enquirer reports they were first to report MJ had only 6 months to live …. in January 12 TH , 2009 !!! One month after Ian…. what are they talking about ?! …
http://www.nationalenquirer.com/enquirer_had_reported_jackson_had_months_to_live/celebrity/65997

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Shame on some of Jackson’s friends, family and doctors. While some no doubt tried to help him, there were others feeding his dependency and negative thinking. He appears to be clearly a hypchondriac, someone who was never happy with himself, who felt he had to change his features until both his physical appearance and inner mechanics collapsed.
These doctors who administered these drugs should lose their licence, and be charged. They contributed to his death. This is serious folks. This is a crime.

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JACKSON A HYPOCHONDRIAC

NOTHING REALLY WRONG WITH HIM; EXCEPT HIS ADDICTION TO DRUGS, HIS NEGATIVE THINKING, PERCEPTION OF HIMSELF AND THE CHOICES HE MADE, PEOPLE HE ASSOCIATED WITH.

Jackson claimed he needed the drugs because of pain from a previously broken vertebrae. Yet Oxman told me Jackson was fairly fit, but was a hypochondriac.
His back and ankle ‘bothered him’, but the real issue was Jackson’s medication, which seriously restricted him physically.

Friend Tarak Ben Ammar also called Jackson a hypochondriac. ‘One never really knew if he was sick, because he had become surrounded by charlatan doctors who were billing him thousands of dollars’ worth of drugs and vitamins.’

Oxman claims people around Jackson fed his addiction. During business meetings Jackson would seem vague and distant, he was habitually late, and ‘listless’ when he did turn up for rehearsals – all side-effects of his drug habit. Attention has been focused on Jackson’s medical team.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1195826/Michael-Jackson-high-painkillers-spent-days-stupor.html

The doctors who enabled him should be charged for this.

Britney Spears is very fortunate her family intervened.

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@egm:
Funny maan in da house …. whatever you are on… it seems to work for you

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Interesting that more and more doctors that knew Jackson are saying that there was nothing really physically wrong with him, other that he was a hypcochondriac who suffered low self esteem and got addicted to drugs with a little help from Hollywood docs who they label as pushers who happen to have a medial licence. All these mystery illnesses of his were in his head. Jackson had a lot of enablers. People that either didn’t care enough or took advantage.

Gupta says if drugs are found in the autopsy results, he will point the finger at docs that are involved in handing out these drugs. It is a serious matter.

In two days, so much news is coming out about Jackson, the fact there was nothing wrong with him, his drug addiction, his negative thinking, about him being a hypochondriac, someone with low self esteem and people who took advantage of him hoping to make a quick buck.

As I said before, lucky for Britney spears that her family intervened.

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I just want to comment on what Tina said earlier-

Good point Tamera. Did MJ make plans for his children? I dunno…..

I would also like to know where Ian got his info.
I take A1AD very seriously and personally. It’s ruined my life! There is such a lack of awareness, it’s even scarier, yet. I spent 10 years trying to figure out what the hell was wrong with me. I’ll spend the rest of life fighting for air – literally.
When Ian reported that MJ had this disease – I didn’t doubt it.
But when the sources close to MJ denied it – it light a fire under my ass.

Somebody’s lying ————-

I’m just waiting to see what happens.

Here is another post she made-
This is very sad.
I was one of the people that thought it possible what Ian reported about MJ dying ‘may be’ true. Prehaps MJ did suffer from Alpha 1 Antitrypsin Deficiency.
WHO could make up a disease that?
I know alot of about A1AD – I have it.
The only question that I have – if MJ had A1AD – are there other family members who suffer from it as well?
It’s a gentic disease – a FAMILY disease – and being from a family of NINE – I find it difficult to believe Michael could be the only one (???)
So, I guess well have to wait for the autopsy reports. I’m interested to see if his lungs (or liver) were trashed.

About A1AD -
It’s a genetic disease – two defective genes, one from each parent (you are BORN with it). You don’t “get it”, Ian!!!
The genes tell the liver to produce defective AAT enzymes that become trapped in the
Liver. The build up can cause Cirrhosis.
Due to the lack of enzymes in the blood, and are ESSENTIAL for maintaining healthy lung tissue – the lungs will become damaged – causing rapid damage – emphysema – no, you do NOT have to be a smoker.
Average age of symptoms is around 30. Only treatment to slow progression is a weekly IV infusion. If the lungs beome too damaged (or liver) the only option is transplant.

This disease is VERY hard on the HEART. The heart & lungs work together.
When the lungs are damaged, the heart has to over compensate.

Even if ‘drugs’ were a factor in MJ’s death — it wouldn’t susrprise me that he died.
Anything that supress the respiratory system – well……….

I guess we’ll see.

RIP Michael – you will be missed.

To answer her first question, where did IAN get his information, that I suspect is in the book, but if LIZA M. is not smart enough not to get stoned with him and spill her guts on tape, that leaves the possibility open that others were not either. Just reviewing those details on the illness, his heart would be compromised if he has this and the autopsy reveals that. Again, would anyone here put their home up against a bet that MJ was going to die in 6 months on info they had, if they were not very sure that if he did, the autopsy would reveal the reason and back you up? Not me. I don’t think anyone is happy that Michael is gone, any loss of life is tragic , for me it is, because I believe in the afterlife, and I believe people need a chance to say their goodbyes, to family friends, get their affairs in order, we all have different beliefs, but life is precious to me and I know as I said last yesterday and again now, R.I.P. Michael .

Tina, bless you dear, you have a heavy burden to bear in life, and this must be a sensitve subject for you and I am sorry, you are being reminded so publicly of it right now, but thank you for sharing with us.

So, we wait and see what the outcome is of the autopsy is, but honestly at this point I am not really sure it matters , it is just kind of hard to wrap my mind around that he did pass away 6 months later, that he did die young as he told Ms Presley he would, that ANS died young as she predicted, I just hope that does not keep happening to anyone else.

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@Kate:
Just saw Liza M interviewed by Larry K …… she did not have it all together in the attic herself …. full of stuttering praise for MJ , can’t finish a sentence….. should be really interesting to read in Ian’s book what a stoned LM had to say ….. and on tape too !

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@Ms Agatha:
I know, wonder what she meant when she said this-

Michael Jackson’s good friend Liza Minnelli told CBS’s “The Early Show” today that she believes the late singer’s autopsy results are going to cause quite a stir.

“All of us who knew him well really know what he was like,” she said. “And I’m sure that now the accolades are going, and I’m sure when the autopsy comes, all hell’s going to break loose. So, thank God we’re celebrating him now.”

She went on to say how devastated she is for the loss of her good friend.

“He was just a really splendid man,” she said. “And a brilliant performer who changed theatrical history. And I will miss him, I cannot tell you.”

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@Kate:
Is this not called ‘gaslighting ‘ ? lol …. She knows, a lot of dirt is coming out….. I am sure, she has long forgotten about her interview with Ian…. more lol….

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bed time …. see ya

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Keane Cyber Queen Supreme said on June 26th, 2009 at 6:00 pm .

“I have a suspicion that he knew he wasn’t well or had much time length which was why he arranged those 50 dates which he couldn’t possibly have achieved in a million years. Bit of cash to offset the debts for the kids?”

Yes indeed. Have you looked back at the press conference to promote those gigs? have a look, I swear it’s not him. The MJ there looks heavier and fuller in the face and appears to have a much deeper voice.

On another topic, are his fans worse than Brangeloonies? I’ve been really attacked on Dlisted and only deserved it once. It’s all gone a bit mental.

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Look ladies and gents. Is this MJ?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_256XQiS1X8

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@too curious:But this is what Ian’s whole site is based on… nothing from nothing makes nothing!

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@John:

IAN should write an expose on this subject. Get in there, and find out about the drug peddling doctors.

It could improve his credibility, you know?

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@Kate:

Michael Jackson did not have any disease. Giving him a disease is making excuses for his addictions, which friends, doctors and lawyers are saying he had. Doctors close to Jackson are also saying Michael was a hypochondriac; that there was nothing wrong with him. A hypcochondriac is described as a persistent conviction that one is or is likely to become ill, often involving symptoms when illness is neither present nor likely, and persisting despite reassurance and medical evidence to the contrary. Also called hypochondriasis.

Jackson suffered low self esteem, and from blood addiction. The rumours about his health were most likely fueled by Jackson’s delusions and negative hypochondricial thinking.

Michael was not sick, except for the people he chose to associate with, his drug addictions, and his thoughts of himself that he was never good enough; therefore he made all of the physical changes to his face. Those behaviors were in part the result of an abusive parent, and trying to please and be accepted by them, as well as low self esteem and not taking responsibilty for himself and setting limits. Sorry, this talk about “Michael’s disease” is not real. It has been said by some top docs, close friends of his who refused to give drugs to him knowing there was nothign wrong with him, knowing he had addicitons that he hoped he could get drugs from doctors to satisfy, that they will be pointing the finger at many of the Hollywood docs who hand out such drugs; that many of these docs are really pushers who happen to have a medical licence.

By refusing to see this, people are supporting, enabling more Michael Jackson situations. It’s time people did something, were honest and took a stand.

Kate, I associate with many in the medical profession who have shared with me that the way a person thinks can cause physical problems, bad decisons, and actions. Some doctors claim that some illnesses are genetic, when in fact, it is more a product of environment, lifestyle and thinking. But, genetics makes it easier for us to accept; it’s an excuse, we don’t have to take responsibilty and it keeps many doctors in business.

I do not for a moment believe Jackson had any illness other than suffering from low self esteem and behaviors associated with that and drug addiciton. He could have changed his situation, lifestyle, diet, friends, behaviors. Things didnt’ have to end this way.

Pharmacies, doctors, even religions are all businesses that make money; it’s not in their best interest to make everyone better. Pyshiactrists will keep patients coming back, if they cured someone totally and told them the truth about themselves, that they needed friends, family to be honest with them, and were honest themselves, they wouldn’t stya in business long as they wouldn’t be needed. There is a place for the medical profession; some are very good and honest and they do save lives, but the root of many illnesses and negative behavior, is our thinking, diet, people we associate with , lack of responsibitly.

Sorry, Kate, but Jackson was given these drugs to counter the stress and worrry Jackson was under for the upcoming 50 concerts he was scheduled to perform. That was a lot of concerts for a guy who hadn’t performed in years, was anorexic, a hypochondriac, isolated, and fragile from thinking he wasnt’ thin enough, good enough and who was addicted to a lot of potent drugs that slowed him down. This doc could face charges and needs to be held accountable, as so many other docs who give similar drugs to stars need to be.

Earlier yesterday, Jackson’s lawyer claimed the singer’s death was linked to his long-term abuse of prescription drugs.

Brian Oxman, the lawyer and spokesman for the Jackson family said: “This is a case of abuse of medications.”

Mr Oxman compared the singer’s death to that of a former Playboy centrefold, who died of a drug overdose in 2007.

He said: “If you think the case with Anna Nicole Smith was an abuse, it’s nothing in comparison to what we have seen taking place in Michael Jackson’s life.”

LAPD’s robbery and homicide unit searched Jackson’s rented house, said once to have been home to Sir Sean Connery, in the upmarket Holmby Hills neighbourhood on the orders of police chief William Bratton.

Mr Oxman blamed Jackson’s sudden death on his inner circle pushing him too hard in the run-up to a series of comeback concerts at the O2 arena in London.

He said the Jacksons believed the singer had become addicted to painkillers and prescription drugs and were concerned about the “stress” he was under.

Jackson was in debt to the tune of 300 million; that is why he staged and decided on a comeback that he was not prepared or ready to be able to deliver.

Mr Oxman added that the star had been taking drugs for months in his battle to be fit for the string of gigs, which had been due to start next month and assist with a mountain of debt, which reportedly ran to £300 million.

http://news.scotsman.com/latestnews/Michael-Jackson39s-doctor-faces-police.5407556.jp

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http://news.scotsman.com/latestnews/Michael-Jackson39s-doctor-faces-police.5407556.jp

According to other reports, paramedics from the LA Fire Department, who were first to arrive at the house after the 911 call, wanted to pronounce him dead at the scene, but the singer’s doctor refused to “call it”.

They found evidence of Lidocaine, a drug used to treat disturbances in the heart’s rhythm.

The paramedics reportedly wanted to call the coroner to collect the body, but the doctor insisted Jackson was taken to hospital.

Mr Oxman said: “Michael had appeared at the rehearsals a couple of times. He was very seriously trying to be able to do these rehearsals. But his use of medications had come in the way and injuries he had sustained performing had got in the way.”

He added: “He had broken a vertebra performing and he had broken his leg in a fall from the stage. I don’t know the extent of the medications he was using.”

Mr Oxman also revealed that the Jackson family had been worried about the star being under stress.

He said he had been “very, very critical” of his use of painkillers and warned in the past that if Jackson died he would “not be silent”.

However, the promoters of his London shows had said in March that Jackson had passed a four-and-a-half-hour medical with independent doctors.

The concerts were expected to net Jackson as much as £50 million, essential revenue as, despite being one of the most successful recording artists of all time, with hits such as Thriller, Bad and Billie Jean, he was believed to be hundreds of millions in debt.

More than 750,000 tickets had been sold, but concerns for the star grew when the first four gigs were postponed last month, although organisers AEG Live insisted this was unrelated to his health.

They were still selling tickets 24 hours before he died and face a possible £300 million liability depending on their insurance cover.

Last night, Tarak Ben Ammar, a former producer and friend of Jackson, echoed fears of drug abuse and said the singer had been a hypochondriac who had been taken advantage of by “charlatan doctors”. He said: “It’s clear the criminals in this affair are the doctors who treated him throughout his career, who destroyed his face, who gave him medicine to ease his pain.

“He was a hypochondriac, and one never really knew if he was sick because he had become surrounded by charlatan doctors who were billing him thousands and thousands of dollars worth of drugs, vitamins.”

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Doctors are to blame for Jackson’s death; the very docs who destroyed his face, gave him the drugs that ended his life, made him addicted.

Last night, Tarak Ben Ammar, a former producer and friend of Jackson, echoed fears of drug abuse and said the singer had been a hypochondriac who had been taken advantage of by “charlatan doctors”. He said: “It’s clear the criminals in this affair are the doctors who treated him throughout his career, who destroyed his face, who gave him medicine to ease his pain.

“He was a hypochondriac, and one never really knew if he was sick because he had become surrounded by charlatan doctors who were billing him thousands and thousands of dollars worth of drugs, vitamins.”

Sanjay Gupta said the same; the family lawyer said the same. This is going to get very big; many doctors are going to be singled out, people are talking and giving evidence, not protecting them as they did for Anna Nicole. This is serious stuff. While Jackson succombed to the decisions of bad, unethical doctors, and his own decisions to go ahead with the surgeries on his face and take drugs to ease his troubled mind, these docs will pay a big price. It is about time the medical profession had to answer for the actions they have been taking. Look at Anna Nicole Smith’s docs, Elvis Presley’s docs. These people had no conscience, scrupals.

Remember, the medial profession is a business; some run it well, some don’t. It looks like professionals and many of them are ready to talk, some will be doctors, lawyers, friends. This is just the begining.

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John said on June 27th, 2009 at 5:33 am
@Kate: correction in caps below.

Michael Jackson did not have any disease. Giving him a disease is making excuses for his addictions, which friends, doctors and lawyers are saying he had. Doctors close to Jackson are also saying Michael was a hypochondriac; that there was nothing wrong with him. A hypcochondriac is described as a persistent conviction that one is or is likely to become ill, often involving symptoms when illness is neither present nor likely, and persisting despite reassurance and medical evidence to the contrary. Also called hypochondriasis.

Jackson suffered low self esteem, and from DRUG addiction. The rumours about his health were most likely fueled by Jackson’s delusions and negative hypochondricial thinking.

Michael was not sick, except for the people he chose to associate with, his drug addictions, and his thoughts of himself that he was never good enough; therefore he made all of the physical changes to his face. Those behaviors were in part the result of an abusive parent, and trying to please and be accepted by them, as well as low self esteem and not taking responsibilty for himself and setting limits. Sorry, this talk about “Michael’s disease” is not real.

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Meow back at ya! Larry King is going down! Victory is mine!@TobyKat:

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Deepak Chopra, a very long time close friend of Michael Jackson, told in an interview on CNN , Friday, June 27, 2009, that Michael suffered from Lupus, an autoimmune disease, as well as another disease. He also stated that there are physicians in the HW community who will keep a performer on hard drugs so they become addicted; Chopra stated firmly to the CNN interviewer that he will give the law time to expose this, and he will state the names of the physicians he knows are into this….not might, but will. HW needs to clean house!

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TO: BackAlleyKnees and Tamara: THANK YOU LADIES! To Knees, I am now reading and GREATLY enjoying the book you recommended by Ariana Franklin called the Mistress of the Art of Death re Henry II and the Jews and To Tamara, I have received the paperback (whew not hardback at least) copy of the Lady of Hay (just the way I like em – big and fat!) which I will start as soon as I finish Mistress! Thank you so much as I love historical fiction and am now happily sitting on my sofa enjoying the 12th Century with a lovely fascinating book! Thanks again Ladies! I do love this site Ian!

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He was reported to have a mild form of lupus in the 1980s – skin lupus, but it was later said to have gone into remission.

In 1993, Jackson’s dermatologist, Dr. Arnold Klein, released a statement saying that Jackson had a skin disease called vitiligo. The condition causes a person to lose melanin, the pigment that determines the color of skin, hair and eyes, in patches or all over the body. Vitiligo affects 1 million to 2 million people in the United States, according to the National Institutes of Health, and no one knows what causes it.

Jackson family attorney Brian Oxman told CNN on Thursday that Jackson’s use of medications had gotten in the way of doing rehearsals.

I think the doctors out there that are prescribing meds to people like Jackson are getting worried, as it appears they are about to be exposed.

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Questions swirl around doctor in Jackson’s deathBuzz up!

AP foreign, Saturday June 27 2009
GILLIAN FLACCUS

Associated Press Writer= LOS ANGELES (AP) — Elvis had one. So did Anna Nicole Smith and Marilyn Monroe. They are the doctors who cater to celebrities, dispensing powerful painkillers and sedatives to some of Hollywood’s best-known entertainers.

Now, as police investigate Michael Jackson’s sudden death, questions are swirling around the King of Pop’s personal cardiologist and his actions in the superstar’s final days.

Dr. Conrad Murray reportedly was with Jackson when he stopped breathing Thursday and performed CPR until paramedics arrived. An ambulance crew worked on Jackson at his home for 42 minutes before rushing him to UCLA Medical Center, where he was pronounced dead.

The cardiologist has hired a Houston-based law firm and on Saturday, an attorney there said he was cooperating.

“Dr. Murray has never left L.A. since Mr. Jackson’s death, and he remains there. Investigators have indicated Dr. Murray is considered a witness and is not in any way a target of any kind,” William M. Stradley told The Associated Press. He said his colleague was meeting with investigators on Saturday.

Also on Saturday, the Rev. Jesse Jackson said the singer’s family wants a private autopsy because of unanswered questions about how he died and about Murray.

And Jackson’s longtime friend Deepak Chopra said he’s been concerned since 2005 that physicians were overmedicating the singer.

The suspicions of Jackson’s friends and family fit into a long-standing pattern of celebrity doctors becoming entangled in death investigations involving prescription drugs.

Doctors can become enchanted by the glamour of the celebrity lifestyle and may find it hard to refuse potent painkillers for their clients because of their wealth and power.

“It’s a big issue with people who are used to getting what they want. And if someone says no, they can pay someone else to get what they want,” said Karen Sternheimer, a sociologist at the University of Southern California who is writing a book on social problems and celebrity culture.

“The physician is not immune to that heady feeling of being in a celebrity’s inner circle.”

In other instances, the doctors themselves may have questionable pasts or significant debts, and caring for a celebrity allows them to make large amounts of money, said Julie Albright, a sociologist at the University of Southern California.

“Some of these people might not be the most successful doctors, so the money will also buy their complicity in fueling a drug habit,” said Albright, who was speaking generally and not specifically about Murray.

Records reveal years of financial troubles for Murray, a 1989 graduate of Meharry Medical College in Nashville who practices medicine in California, Nevada and Texas.

Over the last 18 months, Murray’s Nevada medical practice, Global Cardiovascular Associates, has been slapped with more than $400,000 in court judgments: $228,000 to Citicorp Vendor Finance Inc., $71,000 to an education loan company and $135,000 to a leasing company. He faces at least two other pending cases.

Court records show Murray was hit last December with a nearly $3,700 judgment for failure to pay child support in San Diego, and had his wages garnished the same month for almost $1,500 by a credit card company. Another credit card claim for more than $1,100 filed in April remains open.

He also owes $940 in fines and penalties for driving with an expired license plate and for not having proof of insurance in 2000.

Best-selling author Deepak Chopra, a longtime friend of Michael Jackson and a licensed medical doctor, said he first became concerned about the pop star’s prescription drug use in 2005, when Jackson visited him shortly after his trial on sex abuse allegations.

Chopra said Jackson asked him to prescribe painkillers and already had a bottle of Oxycontin.

“I was kind of a bit alarmed. I said, ‘Why are you taking that. You don’t need that,’ and then I started to probe a little further, and after I grilled him a little bit, he admitted he was getting them from a bunch of doctors,” Chopra said.

Chopra said he refused to prescribe the medicine, but over the next four years the nanny of Jackson’s children would periodically call to say that a parade of doctors was coming to his homes in Santa Barbara County, Los Angeles, Miami and New York City.

She told Chopra she felt they were overmedicating him, and one time she even tried to stage an intervention with Chopra’s help, he said.

Each time, Jackson would discover the nanny’s calls and then shut himself off from Chopra to avoid discussing the issue, he said.

Chopra, a spiritual adviser, said he last talked to Jackson directly about his drug use about six months ago and spoke with him on the phone about two weeks before his death.

But they did not discuss drug use on that call, and Chopra said in his final months, Jackson seemed much healthier and excited about his upcoming concerts in London.

“This is a strange addiction. You cannot get these pills or injections unless a physician prescribes them, and he had this bunch of enabling doctors who were in a sense criminals. And they get away with it half the time — and I hope they don’t this time,” he said.

“It’s become a culture with celebrity doctors who in one sense get a sense of importance by hanging around with celebrities.”

Marilyn Monroe died at 36 from an overdose of sleeping pills in August 1962. She had been under a doctor’s care at the time.

Elvis Presley, who died in 1977 at 42, was known to travel with George Nichopoulos, a former physician who overprescribed drugs to clients. Nichopoulos lost his medical license but was acquitted of criminal charges related to Elvis’ death.

More recently, Los Angeles County prosecutors charged a psychiatrist and a doctor with conspiring to provide Anna Nicole Smith with thousands of prescription pills.

Smith died Feb. 8, 2007, in Florida after collapsing at a hotel; medical authorities later ruled her death an overdose.

Megastars may be given more leeway than ordinary patients because of their wealth — and because of expectations that the famous often have eccentric habits, said Albright, the sociologist.

“It’s almost expected in some ways if it’s a rock star or a big actor. You almost expect them to have a larger-than-life lifestyle,” she said. “People are drawn to celebrity like a moth to a flame, including these doctors who want to be around that lightness and brightness.”

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Associated Press writers Sophia Tareen in Chicago, Juan A. Lozano in Houston, and Beth Harris and Michael Blood in Los Angeles contributed to this report.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/feedarticle/8580588

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MONEY THE ROOT OF ALL EVIL:

Jackson’s longtime friend Deepak Chopra said he’s been concerned since 2005 that physicians were overmedicating the singer.

The suspicions of Jackson’s friends and family fit into a long-standing pattern of celebrity doctors becoming entangled in death investigations involving prescription drugs.

Doctors can become enchanted by the glamour of the celebrity lifestyle and may find it hard to refuse potent painkillers for their clients because of their wealth and power.

“It’s a big issue with people who are used to getting what they want. And if someone says no, they can pay someone else to get what they want,” said Karen Sternheimer, a sociologist at the University of Southern California who is writing a book on social problems and celebrity culture.

Best-selling author Deepak Chopra, a longtime friend of Michael Jackson and a licensed medical doctor, said he first became concerned about the pop star’s prescription drug use in 2005, when Jackson visited him shortly after his trial on sex abuse allegations.

Chopra said Jackson asked him to prescribe painkillers and already had a bottle of Oxycontin.

“I was kind of a bit alarmed. I said, ‘Why are you taking that. You don’t need that,’ and then I started to probe a little further, and after I grilled him a little bit, he admitted he was getting them from a bunch of doctors,” Chopra said.

Chopra said he refused to prescribe the medicine, but over the next four years the nanny of Jackson’s children would periodically call to say that a parade of doctors was coming to his homes in Santa Barbara County, Los Angeles, Miami and New York City.

She told Chopra she felt they were overmedicating him, and one time she even tried to stage an intervention with Chopra’s help, he said.

Each time, Jackson would discover the nanny’s calls and then shut himself off from Chopra to avoid discussing the issue, he said.

Chopra, a spiritual adviser, said he last talked to Jackson directly about his drug use about six months ago and spoke with him on the phone about two weeks before his death.

But they did not discuss drug use on that call, and Chopra said in his final months, Jackson seemed much healthier and excited about his upcoming concerts in London.

“This is a strange addiction. You cannot get these pills or injections unless a physician prescribes them, and he had this bunch of enabling doctors who were in a sense criminals. And they get away with it half the time — and I hope they don’t this time,” he said.

“It’s become a culture with celebrity doctors who in one sense get a sense of importance by hanging around with celebrities.”

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*************BREAKING**********

JACKSON’S FAMILY WANTS SECOND AUTOPSY

June 27th, 2009 SindhToday Leave a comment Go to comments
Los Angeles, June 28 (Xinhua) Michael Jackson’s family Saturday asked for a second autopsy on the body of the superstar who died Thursday at a Los Angeles hospital, the coroner’s office said.

Jackson’s body was shifted to a mortuary Friday night after a three-hour autopsy. Investigators said the revelation of the exact cause of death has been delayed pending toxicological tests, which take four to six weeks.

According to Brian Elias of the Los Angeles County coroner’s office, Jackson’s family has told the office that they wanted a second autopsy carried out.

Jackson, 50, apparently got an injection of Demerol, a strong painkiller similar to morphine, shortly before he was rushed to the hospital in deep coma by fire department paramedics Thursday afternoon. He was pronounced dead later at the hospital.

Jackson had been reportedly addicted to Demerol for about 20 years.

http://www.sindhtoday.net/news/1/24656.htm

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*************BREAKING**********

JACKSON’S FAMILY WANTS SECOND AUTOPSY

June 27th, 2009
Los Angeles, June 28
(Xinhua)
Michael Jackson’s family Saturday asked for a second autopsy on the body of the superstar who died Thursday at a Los Angeles hospital, the coroner’s office said.

Jackson’s body was shifted to a mortuary Friday night after a three-hour autopsy. Investigators said the revelation of the exact cause of death has been delayed pending toxicological tests, which take four to six weeks.

According to Brian Elias of the Los Angeles County coroner’s office, Jackson’s family has told the office that they wanted a second autopsy carried out.

Jackson, 50, apparently got an injection of Demerol, a strong painkiller similar to morphine, shortly before he was rushed to the hospital in deep coma by fire department paramedics Thursday afternoon. He was pronounced dead later at the hospital.

Jackson had been reportedly addicted to Demerol for about 20 years.

http://www.sindhtoday.net/news/1/24656.htm

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****************BREAKING********************

Rev. Jackson calls for independent autopsy

(NECN/WLS: Chicago, Ill.) -
The Reverend Jesse Jackson on Saturday called for an independent autopsy of Michael Jackson.

Speaking at a news conference in Chicago, Jesse Jackson said more needs to be known about the pop icon’s sudden death.

He said the Jackson family will not be able to rest until they know how he died.

“They’re hurt because they lost a son. But the wound is now being kept open by the mystery and unanswered questions of the cause of death,” Jackson said.

The Los Angeles County coroner’s office has completed an autopsy of the singer. But the cause of death will not be determined until further tests are completed and that could take months.

Media reports say Jackson suffered a heart attack.

His spiritual advisor says he had been concerned for the past four years that Jackson was abusing prescription drugs.

Material courtesy of WLS.

http://www.necn.com/Boston/Arts-Entertainment/2009/06/27/Rev-Jackson-calls-for/1246144375.html

It’s going to be a rough go for any doctor who prescribed Jackson drugs. People including lawyers and other doctors are starting to point fingers

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Michael Jackson’s family upset, wants independent autopsy

Associated Press – June 27, 2009 7:13 PM ET

LOS ANGELES (AP) – A person close to Michael Jackson’s family has told The Associated Press the family is angry over being kept out of the loop.

They’re upset over a lack of information about those who were around the pop superstar in his final days. That would presumably include Jackson’s cardiologist, who has retained a law firm and has talked with police.

The Rev. Jesse Jackson, who’s visited family members at the California compound, says their “wound is now being kept open by the mystery and unanswered questions of the cause of death.”

Two days after Jackson died at a Los Angeles hospital, his most famous sister, Janet, arrived at the mansion he’d been renting. She drove up in a Bentley and left without speaking to reporters.

Moving vans also showed up at the house, leaving about an hour later. It’s not know what they may have taken away.

There’s also no word from the Jackson family on funeral plans. The Rev. Al Sharpton says one idea they’re considering is a series of simultaneous global celebrations in Jackson’s memory.

Los Angeles County medical examiners completed their autopsy Friday and said there’s no indication of trauma or foul play in Jackson’s death. With additional tests needed, it could take more than a month to know the cause.

http://www.localnews8.com/Global/story.asp?S=10606518&nav=menu554_2

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********BREAKING NEWS*********

Michael Jackson: second post mortem examination taking place
A second post mortem examination is taking place on Michael Jackson’s body, according to reports.

By Paul Thompson in Los Angeles and David Harrison
Published: 9:40PM BST 27 Jun 2009

The celebrity website TMZ, which broke the news of Jackson’s death, said a family source had revealed that a second post mortem examination was being undertaken.

It follows comments by the Rev Jesse Jackson that Jackson’s family had wanted an independent examination amid concerns about the involvement of his personal doctor, Dr Conrad Murray.

Michael Jackson: family of singer consider second autopsy due to suspicions over death .It emerged that none of the family had met Dr Murray, who had been Jackson’s personal doctor for over a year and who had been living with the singer at his rented home.

Dr Murray, 51, is expected to meet Los Angeles police officers over the weekend to explain the final hours of the singer’s life.

Although the coroner’s office released Jackson’s body late on Friday the family has not given any details of funeral arrangements.

The location of the mortuary where the body is being held has not been disclosed while police continue their investigation.

The Rev Jackson, who was present with Michael Jackson during his child molestation trial four years ago, spent several hours inside the Jackson family home in Encino, California on Friday afternoon.

The family have been ensconced inside the gated home as they struggle to come to terms with Jackson’s death – and a likely battle over for custody over his three children and his estate.

The Rev Jackson said the family want Dr Murray to fill in the missing hours between the time when Jackson went to bed to his being discovered unconscious.

He said: “Michael was in good shape, he was in good health practising three to four hours a day. There is a gap between him going to bed and the next day when we got a call that he was not breathing.

“All we know is that something happened to Michael with the doctor present. How long had he stopped breathing, how long was he unconscious?”

Police sources said that Dr Murray gave the singer a painkiller, widely believed to be the drug Demerol, known as pethidine in Britain, by around 11pm the night before he died.

A three-hour post mortem examination by the Los Angeles County Coroner concluded that there were no signs of foul play but failed to determine a cause of death.

A spokesman for the Coroner said the result will be determined by toxicology and other tests which could take up to six weeks. He confirmed that Jackson was taking prescribed medicines but declined to give details.

The Rev Jackson’s comments come amid new revelations about the financial past of Dr Murray, who has practices in Houston, Texas, and Las Vegas, Nevada.

Court papers reveal that Dr Murray a 1989 graduate of Meharry Medical College in Nashville, Tennessee, filed for bankruptcy in Riverside County, Nevada. in 1992.

Five tax liens – a US term for a court order – were taken out against him between 1993 and 2003 for amounts totalling £32,000.

Last year three judgments were filed against Dr Murray or his company, totalling more than $435,000, and two other cases are pending from companies that claim Murray owes them a total of $355,000.

The three judgments include $71,332 for school loans, $135,302 to Popular Leasing USA and $228,420 to Citicorp Vendor Finance.

The doctor is believed to have struck up a friendship with Jackson last year when he treated the singer for a cold during one his stays in Las Vegas.

Dr Tohme Tohme, a Jackson adviser, said that AEG Live retained Murray and that the physician had moved into Jackson’s Holmby Hills mansion two weeks earlier and was going with the singer to Britain.

Jackson was due to fly here early next week to perform 50 comeback concerts at the 02 arena in London.

Randy Phillips, AEG Live’s president and chief executive, said Jackson had insisted that his personal doctor should be on the promoter’s payroll.

Meanwhile the Jackson family last night issued a statement speaking of the “darkest moments of our lives” and was signed by the singer’s father Joseph Jackson.

It read: “In one of the darkest moments of our lives we find it hard to find the words appropriate to this sudden tragedy we all had to encounter. Our beloved son, brother and father of three children has gone so unexpectedly, in such a tragic way and much too soon.

“It leaves us, his family, speechless and devastated to a point, where communication with the outside world seems almost impossible at times.

“We miss Michael endlessly, our pain cannot be described in words. But Michael would not want us to give up now. So we want to thank all of his faithful supporters and loyal fans worldwide, you – who Michael loved so much.

“Please do not despair, because Michael will continue to live on in each and every one of you. Continue to spread his message, because that is what he would want you to do. Carry on, so his legacy will live forever. ”

“My grandchildren are deeply moved by all the love and support you have shown for them and their father, Michael Jackson.” The statement was issued to People magazine on Saturday.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/music/michael-jackson/5666438/Michael-Jackson-second-post-mortem-examination-taking-place.html

Family suspiscious of doctor, and death order second autopsy.

If drugs are found in the autopsy results, Gupta indicated he woudl speak out and name names, re the doctors involved that MJ had gone to for drugs.

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Dr. Conrad Murray, Michael Jackson’s Doctor Hires Attorney
June 27, 2009 at 11:46 am

2nd Autopsy ordered, possibly underway

Dr. Conrad Murray, Michael Jackson’s doctor who was with him when he died, has hired an attorney and plans to meet with L.A investigators Saturday afternoon at 4 p.m.

Dr. Murray has hired Houston attorney Ed Chernoff who flew to Los Angeles Friday night to meet with him. They plan to meet with L.A. police Saturday afternoon.

The family has requested a second autopsy be performed, and that is going to take place Saturday at some time.

No funeral plans have been announced at this time.

Police also want to talk to a second man, Dr. Tohme Tohme in connection with Michael’s death. He is Jackson’s longtime friend and manager.

http://www.nowpublic.com/culture/dr-conrad-murray-michael-jacksons-doctor-hires-attorney

Something is certainly up. ……………………………..

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Second Autopsy Underway, Homicide Police to Question 2 Doctors in connection with Michael Jackson’s Death:

Dr. Tohme Tohme and Dr. Murray. Dr. Murray has already hired a lawyer.

Dr. Conrad Murray, Michael Jackson’s Doctor Hires Attorney
June 27, 2009 at 11:46 am

2nd Autopsy ordered, possibly underway

Dr. Conrad Murray, Michael Jackson’s doctor who was with him when he died, has hired an attorney and plans to meet with L.A investigators Saturday afternoon at 4 p.m.

Dr. Murray has hired Houston attorney Ed Chernoff who flew to Los Angeles Friday night to meet with him. They plan to meet with L.A. police Saturday afternoon.

The family has requested a second autopsy be performed, and that is going to take place Saturday at some time.

No funeral plans have been announced at this time.

Police also want to talk to a second man, Dr. Tohme Tohme in connection with Michael’s death. He is Jackson’s longtime friend and manager.

http://www.nowpublic.com/culture/dr-conrad-murray-michael-jacksons-doctor-hires-attorney

Something is certainly up. ……………………………..

Have some of the doctors, lawyers, those who witnessed or knew something been talking, and giving evidence???

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@Keane’s Cat:
Larry King rocks you mangy cat!!!!!!!! Go get the lice out of that nasty fur and leave us (and Larry) alone.

I know, I know ladies. I’m supposed to be mature and ignore that lice and flea ridden mangy thing. I’ll work on that.

I read that MJ’s family is demanding another autopsy. Do you think it is just denial? Surely they must have know what a doper he was. I also read that his mum is about 78 years old. That doesn’t sound like a good long term plan.

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Who Killed Michael Jackson?
by Civil Writes Activist

Share this on Twitter – Who Killed Michael Jackson? Fri Jun 26, 2009 at 03:14:18 PM PDT
It will probably come out that some combination of opioids forever stopped Michael Jackson’s heart. An accidental over-dose, an unforeen reaction – some palatable explanation that clears those around him of any responsibility, and paints him as a confused, weak, and very flawed man who turned to drugs as an escape from the pressures of celebrity.

But I am here to tell you that Michael Jackson was murdered. And I know who killed him.

Cowards, that’s who – and people who worship money as their only God. People who should have cared enough for him as a person to do right by him, but in the end, cared more about themselves, and refused to do he needed them to do.

How is it that people can become so iconicly famous that those closest to them are too terrified to tell them “no”? How is it that certain celebrity can make outsiders view them not as a human being, but as a commodity and a means of self enrichment?

The people who loved Michael as only family members and extremely close friends can, just couldn’t bring themselves do what was needed to end his dangerous drug addiction. An intervention, tough love – I don’t know, but whatever it would have taken to get him clean. Did his fame burn so brightly that they feared being left outside its light, more than they valued his life? They enabled and supported his addiction, all the while knowing it would likely eventually kill him.

His doctors must have recognized the emotional instability that drove him to seek more and more plastic surgery, but in violation of their Hippocratic oath, they performed operation after operation. No matter that each stroke of the scalpel rendered him more cartoonish and less beautiful. The money was just too good. They enabled his obsession rather refusing to treat him and insist he get the psychological help he so obviously needed.

His personal physician, whom I’m sure facts will reveal contributed to Jackson’s sudden end – even if only peripherally, should have thought more of his patient than his pocketbook, and made sure he got the medical help he required instead of the drugs he craved.

I hold these people all responsible for his death. He was a treasure, albeit a damaged one. He needed help. He got obsequience instead.

The vultures that call themselves his family, his friends, and his physicians have indeed killed their goose, the golden eggs upon which they depended are a thing of the past. I hope they’re happy

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2009/6/26/747260/-Who-Killed-Michael-Jackson

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@Vittoria:

Oh, I’m certain they knew he was into drugs, and now they will have enough evidence to put some docs who administered all of this stuff away. While he did take drugs, it was doctors that were giving it to him. He wasn’t getting this stuff on the streets. These docs need to be put away

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@Vittoria:

This article is interesting re: MJ. It’s an interview with the nanny who his children saw as their mother. She says she’s had to take him to have his stomach pumped before,; that he didn’t have a clue how to handle money and was flat broke (whenever he got any he would blow it all on antiques and luxury hotels even though they didn’t even have a home to live in; how we was taking money from people without fulfilling the promises he’d agreed to; that his family members were all dependent on him for cash; that one of them went looking for a stash of cash in his house hours after he was pronounced dead; that his children had a very cold and distant relationship with their father, not loving at all; that the kids not only do not play with other children but did not even have a teacher (where were child services again?). Very interesting reading, I’m sure that this will only be the first in numerous articles about MJ’s very bizarre and unhealthy lifestyle to come:

http://www.newsoftheworld.co.uk/news/381738/Michael-Jackson-family-hunted-for-cash-hours-after-death-says-nanny-Grace-Rwaramba.html

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DOUBLE BLUNDER’ OF JACKO DOC

Michael Jackson’s personal doctor will be quizzed by detectives over whether he made two crucial mistakes – following a second autopsy on the dead star.

Heart specialist Dr Conrad Murray, who was last night due to meet with L.A. police, allegedly administered what Jackson called his ëhealth tonicí ñ an injection of the painkiller Demerol ñ just before he collapsed.†

Murray faced a grilling over Jackson family allegations that doctors encouraged the singer to become reliant on a cocktail of six potentially lethal drugs.

The medic will also be questioned about his attempts to resuscitate Jackson.

On the 911 tape released on Friday night, one of Jacksonís staff tells the emergency operator that Jackson is ìon the bedî and that a ìdoctor is hereî.

But experts say it is strange that a veteran cardiologist like Murray would attempt CPR while Jackson was on a bed because it is difficult to compress the chest on a soft surface.†

The 911 operator told the member of staff to ìget him on the floorî. Dr Murray has told Los Angeles Police Department murder detectives: ìI did nothing wrong.î

But the furious Jackson family last night got the second autopsy which they had demanded after claiming theyíd been kept ìin the darkî.

Los Angeles County Coronerís spokesman Craig Harvey confirmed that police have put a ìsecurity holdî on the case, limiting the amount of information that can be
released.

Following Fridayís three-hour autopsy, Mr Harvey said: ìThe cause of death has been deferred.î

But Jacksonís parents Joe and Katherine held meetings with police yesterday and demanded they tell the family ìeverythingî about how Michael died.

A source close to the family said last night: ìThey will not tolerate a cover-up. There are decisions going down without the family being in the loop. Itís becoming an issue.î†

The family won their battle and last nightís autopsy is now expected to produce toxicology results within three days rather than the original four to six weeks.†

Dr Murray was due to fly to London next month to be at the singerís side during his fifty O2 concerts.†

Yesterday, it was revealed Jackson had insisted that entertainment giant AEG added Dr Murray to its ìpromoterís payrollî for his London concerts.

AEG chief executive Randy Phillips confirmed: ìAs a company, we would have preferred not having a physician on staff full-time because it would have been cheaper without the hotels and travel.†

ìBut Michael was insistent that he was hired. Michael said he had a rapport with him.î

A BMW car, left in the driveway of Jacksonís rented Holmby Hills mansion and believed to be owned by the doctorís sister, was impounded on Friday.

Prescription drugs found in the car are being examined by police. LAís Deputy Chief of Police Charlie Beck said: ìWe do not consider him to be uncooperative at this time.†

ìWe think that he will assist us in coming to the truth of the facts in this case.î

And a senior detective told the Daily Star Sunday: ìHe told two officers at the hospital, immediately after Michael Jackson had been officially pronounced dead, that he had done nothing wrong.î

Police also want to talk to a second doctor ñ Jacksonís long-time friend and manager Dr Tohme Tohme ñ about a possible alleged indirect connectionî between prescription drugs and the starís death. But last night he reacted angrily saying: ìThis is bullshit. Why should I talk to police?î

It is claimed Jackson was addicted to prescription drugs, especially Demerol, the less powerful painkiller Vicodin and the anti-anxiety relaxant Xanax.

Jacksonís family also want to know whether AEG ñ the company behind his 50 concerts at the O2 ñ put the singer under any stress to perform.

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http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/view/86701/-Double-blunder-of-Jacko-doc/

Sounds like other doctors have been talking and pointing fingers, giving evidence. The two above mentioned docs look to be in some serious trouble

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The following is written by Michael Jackson when he was high on the drugs his doctors had been giving him. After reading this, it’s obvious they should be charged: How can they with any conscience give him more drugs. No wonder Sanjay Gupta and Deepak Chopra are opening up.

Horror story Michael Jackson wrote for kids
HIS NIGHTMARE PLAY ABOUT CHILD-ABUSER AND SERIAL KILLER

By Matthew Drake, 28/06/2009

TORMENTED Michael Jackson wrote a chilling horror story about a CHILD ABUSER and SERIAL KILLER starring HIS OWN KIDS.
The sickening tale – called Kids on Swings – is a nightmare vision of Prince Michael II and Jacko’s daughter Paris falling into the clutches of a fiend who slaughters children with a ’sling blade’.

He stabs Prince, sending him into a coma as they try to escape his clutches.

The King of Pop penned the story when he visited the UK in 2006 – a year after he was acquitted of child abuse charges.

It gives a warped insight into the tormented mind of the entertainer who suffered repeated beatings at the hands of his own violent father Joe.

The story is written in a childlike scrawl in black and blue pens on the back of letters and pictures of an Irish Georgian Castle.

Screams
It was found among documents and memorabilia handed to the News of the World.

Written as a play, it tells how Paris, 11, and seven- year-old Prince Michael II are playing on swings until the boy becomes ‘disinterested’ and runs off.

“He runs to the brook skipping past rocks silhouetted against a crystal lake,” Jacko wrote.

A pack of wild dogs then chase the pair as Paris screams for her ‘DAD.’

In the next disturbing scene, the infants spot a man working in a field with a sling blade. “We see him working but we can’t see his face,” Jackson wrote.

The badly spelled story then takes a sinister turn as the identity of the fiend is revealed.

The character of Prince tells his sister: “He murdered his wife and no one ever sees his kids cause he keeps them tied to the bed like his wife, before he murdered her. He starves them FIRST then he murdered them, Paris.”

His terrified sister admits to being scared before asking how he killed them. “He did it with a sling blade Paris,” he adds. The 13-page story is believed to have been written while the eccentric entertainer was doped up on a cocktail of powerful narcotic pain killers.

The handwriting has been verified as Jackson’s by top graphologist Erik Rees who has been observing the star’s writing for 30 years and says it shows signs of a “split personality”.

The tale was penned at a time when Jacko’s behaviour became increasingly erratic and fears were raised for the safety of his three youngsters.

In the next scene Prince and Paris are in bed – too frightened to sleep. A twisted passage then describes how the monster got a facial scar.

“He starved a man for 2 weeks,” it reads. “Just before killing him they had a fight. The guy he was trying to kill grabbed the knife to attack him. And he cut him over the eyes.

“He then got scared and ran into what they call the endless BLACK FOREST . . . he was never found again. Because they say there is no way out of the endless Black Forest.”

The bizarre tale – which may have been read to Jacko’s kids as a bedtime story – sees the two youngsters venture into the ‘Black Forest’ to visit the ‘crazy man.’

Shaking with fear, the children peer through the window of his cottage before a spine-tingling scene in which he creeps up behind them.

Stabs
He stabs them as they try to escape his clutches and Prince has an asthma attack and stops breathing.

The monster then hunts them down in the forest before Prince apparently dies with his sister’s head on his ‘lifeless chest.’

In the final twist, the man carries Prince back to the cottage and holds hands with Paris. She is described as feeling ’safe and loved by him.’

The man “carrys Prince to his bed and puts the cover over the sick boy” before sitting in a chair and watching him. When her brother finally awakes from his coma, Paris calms the traumatised boy as she tells him the man “won’t hurt you”.

The bizarre closing lines read: “He pulls the Toys from his jacket. What was broken is now mended, Fixed Paris. He didn’t steal our toys Prince he fixed them. KIDS are happy to see their fixed toys again.

“Man gets up, walks to the door right before he exits Prince says thank you they exchange smiles and we see him.”

http://www.newsoftheworld.co.uk/news/382002/Michael-Jacksons-nightmare-play-about-child-abuser-and-serial-killer.html

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***************LATEST NEWS ON JACKSON’S DOCTOR************

Jackson rep Dr. Tohme Tohme told the Los Angeles Times Friday that Murray had only been in town for about two weeks. The doc had sent a letter to his patients, dated June 15, informing them that he would be leaving his practice indefinitely—presumably to go work for Jackson.

Here’s what else we’ve learned about Murray… IT’S NOT GOOD

He is licensed to practice medicine in both Texas and California.
He has been sued twice for breach of contract in Clark County (Las Vegas) by creditors.
Last year, HICA Education Loan Corp was awarded $71,332.45 in a case against him.
His Houston business, Acres Home Heart and Vascular Institute, was on the losing end in a September 2008 case and ordered to pay the plaintiff, Popular Leasing CA, more than $135,000.
Capital One sued him through a debt-collection law firm and was awarded $1,473 last December.

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***************LATEST NEWS ON JACKSON’S DOCTOR************

Jackson rep Dr. Tohme Tohme told the Los Angeles Times Friday that Murray had only been in town for about two weeks. The doc had sent a letter to his patients, dated June 15, informing them that he would be leaving his practice indefinitely—presumably to go work for Jackson.

Here’s what else we’ve learned about Murray… IT’S NOT GOOD

He is licensed to practice medicine in both Texas and California.
He has been sued twice for breach of contract in Clark County (Las Vegas) by creditors.
Last year, HICA Education Loan Corp was awarded $71,332.45 in a case against him.
His Houston business, Acres Home Heart and Vascular Institute, was on the losing end in a September 2008 case and ordered to pay the plaintiff, Popular Leasing CA, more than $135,000.
Capital One sued him through a debt-collection law firm and was awarded $1,473 last December.

http://ca.eonline.com/uberblog/b131365_tour_promoter_hired_michael_jacksons.html

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@John:
Why do they want another autopsy? Work with me here John, I’m not that bright.

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MORE NEWS ON THE DOC THAT GAVE JACKSON THE INJECTION MOMENTS BEFORE HIS DEATH: The news does not look good for the doc.

Jun. 27, 2009
Copyright © Las Vegas Review-Journal

Michael Jackson’s doctor has history of legal, financial woes

By BRIAN HAYNES
LAS VEGAS REVIEW-JOURNAL
Michael Jackson

THE ASSOCIATED PRESS

In his decade spent living and working in Las Vegas, the doctor at the heart of the Michael Jackson death investigation has left a trail of legal and financial troubles.

Dr. Conrad Murray’s legal troubles in Las Vegas began in 2002, two years after he opened Global Cardiovascular Associates on East Flamingo Road near Eastern Avenue.

In February 2002, the Clark County district attorney’s office filed a lien against Murray because of unpaid child support owed to Nenita Malibiran in California. That case followed him throughout the decade.

In 2006 he was hit with another lien for nearly $3,100 in unpaid child support, and as recently as June 10, the district attorney’s office filed to collect $10,893 in back child support owed to Malibiran in Santa Clara County in California, according to county records.

Murray had trouble paying other personal debts, as well.

Capital One Bank sued Murray in October and won a default judgment for $960 plus $408 in interest and legal fees.

And in March, HICA Education Loan Corp. won a $71,332 civil judgment against Murray, who failed to repay student loans from his days in medical school at Meharry Medical College in Nashville, Tenn., according to court records.

Murray and his company have also faced a litany of lawsuits in the past three years for unpaid bills and business obligations.

Lawsuits from Citicorp Vendor Finance and Popular Leasing U.S.A. ended with judgments against Murray totaling $363,722, and two pending lawsuits from Digirad Imaging Solutions and Siemens Financial Services are seeking judgments totalling $366,541.

On Friday, the office at Global Cardiovascular Associates was dark.

A closed sign hung from the door.

Murray has not been the subject of disciplinary action by the Nevada medical or pharmacy boards, according to those agencies.

He has been registered to vote in Clark County since 2004 but does not have a Nevada driver’s license, according to the Department of Motor Vehicles.

He lives in a 5,268-square-foot home with four bedrooms and a pool near the Red Rock Country Club.

Review-Journal reporter Lawrence Mower contributed to this report. Contact reporter Brian Haynes at bhaynes@reviewjournal.com or 702-383-0281.

http://www.lvrj.com/news/49334907.html

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bb14. Two Australian tourists were on a Starlight Bus touring around Movie stars homes, when their driver said I’ll show you Michael Jacksons home. When they arrived there was a fire truck out the front and a lot of paps and then an ambulance came out of the driveway. The tourists never had a clue what was going on until some-one yelled out “Michael” and then some-one clued them in as to what was going on, the 2 women couldn’t believe what they had just witnessed
The two women were staying at the Roosevelt Hotel, early that morning when they were walking down a corridor a door flicks open and Angelina and Brad walk out. Hmmmm wonder what they were doing together. Does anyone know if they are back together?????

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@Keane Cyber Queen Supreme:
Thanks! I’ll read it right now.
OMG, they were hunting for money as soon as his body went cold? Damn……sounds like my sister. That is twisted.

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@Vittoria:

I would imagine they want more detailed information into the specifics of death, more thorough. Initially when they conducted their investigation they may not have looked at everything; focused on this doctor that was with him.

Check out the background of the heart doc that gave Jackson his final injection. It is worrisome. That and they most likely want to go after the docs responsible for and contributed to his demise. These are docs administering a lot of drugs to stars like Jackson, Anna Nicole Smith, Presley, etc. They are enablers. While these stars died tragically, this is a very good opportunity to expose these doctors and put an end to the abuse and corruption and it looks like Sanjay Gupta, Deepak Chopra, other doctors, Jackon’s lawyer and even one of Jackson’s own docs are prepared to spill the beans. With a second autopsy they can be more thorough, investigative and will be looking for specifics. Additionally, they are going to get the results back sooner. From hearing results will be back in several weeks, they will be getting them back possibly in days.

Check out Jackson’s doc’s reputation and background. He’s done.

In his decade spent living and working in Las Vegas, the doctor at the heart of the Michael Jackson death investigation has left a trail of legal and financial troubles.

Dr. Conrad Murray’s legal troubles in Las Vegas began in 2002, two years after he opened Global Cardiovascular Associates on East Flamingo Road near Eastern Avenue.

In February 2002, the Clark County district attorney’s office filed a lien against Murray because of unpaid child support owed to Nenita Malibiran in California. That case followed him throughout the decade.

In 2006 he was hit with another lien for nearly $3,100 in unpaid child support, and as recently as June 10, the district attorney’s office filed to collect $10,893 in back child support owed to Malibiran in Santa Clara County in California, according to county records.

Murray had trouble paying other personal debts, as well.

Capital One Bank sued Murray in October and won a default judgment for $960 plus $408 in interest and legal fees.

And in March, HICA Education Loan Corp. won a $71,332 civil judgment against Murray, who failed to repay student loans from his days in medical school at Meharry Medical College in Nashville, Tenn., according to court records.

Murray and his company have also faced a litany of lawsuits in the past three years for unpaid bills and business obligations.

Lawsuits from Citicorp Vendor Finance and Popular Leasing U.S.A. ended with judgments against Murray totaling $363,722, and two pending lawsuits from Digirad Imaging Solutions and Siemens Financial Services are seeking judgments totalling $366,541.

On Friday, the office at Global Cardiovascular Associates was dark.

A closed sign hung from the door.

Murray has not been the subject of disciplinary action by the Nevada medical or pharmacy boards, according to those agencies.

He has been registered to vote in Clark County since 2004 but does not have a Nevada driver’s license, according to the Department of Motor Vehicles.

He lives in a 5,268-square-foot home with four bedrooms and a pool near the Red Rock Country Club.

Review-Journal reporter Lawrence Mower contributed to this report. Contact reporter Brian Haynes at bhaynes@reviewjournal.com or 702-383-0281.

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@benjaminbutton14:
That’s very interesting, to hear that Brad and Angie are in LA now, when everyone has been trying to find some word of where they are. Angie claimed to be going to France, yes again, to spend the summer with the kids, but since Columbia Pictures pulled out of Moneyball, Brad was suddenly free to spend the summer with the “family” if he so desired. Now i’m wondering why they are in California and not France??
I feel so sorry for those tourists to have witnessed all the drama surrounding Michael Jackson’s death Thursday morning. It must have come as a huge shock to them to actually be there and see the ambulance leaving with his body. Thursday was a sad day in HW….i remember trying out the Farrah hair do back then, loved watching Charlie’s Angels on tv. Sad day. At least Farrah is no longer in such horrible pain….God Bless and RIP Farrah, Michael, and Ed

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@Patty Anne:
bb14. OMG Patty Anne, Don’t tell me I’ve actually told something about Brad and Angie that no-one knew about. Whatever I post I’m always told that it is old news. I feel real good now. At least we know where the terrible 2 are.

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Reverand Jesse Jackson called for second autopsy:

Calls for independent autopsy June 27, 2009 (LOS ANGELES) (WLS) — There are more questions about the death of Michael Jackson. His family and the Reverend Jesse Jackson are calling for an independent autopsy. This as fans mourn his death with tributes close to home and around the world.

http://abclocal.go.com/wls/story?section=news/entertainment&id=6887187&rss=rss-espnChicago-wls-article-6887187

Wonder if this doc took a lot of money up front???????????????????????????????????????????????????

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@Vittoria:
Seems to me the Jackson family as a whole is/was jealous of Michael’s fame and wealth. I had read today that although strapped himself, Michael was still supporting several of his family members, so the question surrounding custody of his children becomes a very serious one. Who has the kids, has the cash, and unfortunately that is how many of the Jackson’s will view it. I heard his former attorney say he definately left a will with instructions reguarding the kids, so lets hope that is true, for their sake. My opinion on Michaels sudden death so soon following a complete physical which cleared him for a 50 show touring of the world is that his doctor over dosed him on the Demerol inj. around an hour before the 911 phone call was made,an overdose of Demerol can produce an MI and death. What John said above is true, one cannot do effective CPR on a soft surface such as a bed, being a physician , he certainly knew this….many questions here…..someone also mentioned an empty syringe of Lidocaine which numbs the skin. Accidental ingestion of it may affect the heart by making it less efficent…more questions.

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The injection may have been too strong, because reports are that the singer stopped breathing (a symptom consistent with Demerol overdose).

Meanwhile, Deepak Chopra, speaking with Keith Olbermann said that Jackson had approached Chopra in the past to ask for Oxy-contin. Chopra described his friend Michael Jackson as deeply resistant to discussion about addiction matters, but also clearly struggling with addiction, and with doctors willing to enable that addiction. Chopra called such doctors ‘legalized pushers,’ and went on to say that his longtime friend, Michael Jackson, had been victimized by such doctors.

Police have spoken with Dr. Murray briefly, but are reportedly seeking to interview him more fully, as he was attending to Jackson’s medical needs, and likely administered any drugs the pop star ingested before his death.

Dr. Murray was reportedly hired by the concert company to attend to Jackson’s medical needs up to and through Jackson’s 50 show comeback tour in London beginning July 13th, according to the LA Times.

Jackson had reportedly been attending regular rehearsals and returned sometime after midnight the previous night. The next morning, Jackson reportedly received a Demerol injection at about 11:30 a.m. The injection may have been too strong, because reports are that the singer stopped breathing (a symptom consistent with Demerol overdose).

The family of Michael Jackson says that Demerol injections killed the legendary star and that he was just a skeleton of his former self at the time of his death, according to TMZ.com. TMZ cites a close member of Michael Jackson’s family as telling TMZ that Jackson received a daily injection of Demerol, a synthetic narcotic similar to morphine, and that he received a shot at 11:30 AM, shortly before he collapsed and died.

In 2007, Jackson was sued by a Beverly Hills pharmacy for unpaid prescription bills of about $100,000, or, about $10,000 a month. The situation was resolved “amicably,” and the pharmacy, Mickey Fine, claimed the bill had been paid. Given the current situation, the question of who prescribed those drugs, and for what condition, naturally arises. Authorities continue to investigate.

The toxicology report will take 4-6 weeks to complete. In the mean time, police have placed a security hold on the autopsy results, pending further investigation.

http://www.examiner.com/x-8543-SF-Health-News-Examiner~y2009m6d26-Deepak-Chopra-Jackson-doctors-fed-Oxycontin-Demerol-addiction

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@Keane Cyber Queen Supreme:
I am stunned. They really call that kid blanket? I thought that was a joke. Well it is a joke, but a sick one if that’s what they really call him. And the Nation of Islam…..you’ve got to be kidding me. Those kids are are white as i am (which is pretty damn pale!). MJ obviously wasn’t too kean on being black himself and then got some white IVF children, so WTF? They were teaching them black power or what?

I don’t know a whole lot about a lot of things, but I can see that if a fellow is doing demerol, dilaudid, etc., etc. he will be in no condition to parent children. This is hopefully a blessing in disguise for those poor kids. I hope that uterus for hire Debbie Rowe doesn’t get any of them either. A real mother would not have given it all up for the $$. It is so hard to say what’s what in a situation like this. the wolves really come out.
Overall, the article paints a very sad picture and I’m sure it was and is very sad. I still have to say……..whatever happens never justifies messing with kids.

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@Keane Cyber Queen Supreme:

Keane…. the nanny article is by far the most interesting factual news which have come out so far……… summa summarum : It just shows, people just love to believe any PR shit…. the more gold you pour over shit ….the more it shines… the more outlandish … the more people go wild….extatic ..and all along its just a piece of shit !…. all awhile the guy sits with his complete acquired kids in the basement of a semi-detached house in the suburbs ….. no penny he calls his own…

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@Patty Anne:

Agreed. Drug overdose. Too many drugs being prescribed. I wish people would stop making excuses for what happened, all of these drugs. Thankfully for Britney Spears, her father got involved and stopped the madness, the drug abuse and kept the leaches, parasites, vultures such as her former manager and Adnan away from her. People need a healthy environment, reality, honesty, integrity and real friends to survive and thrive.

The opportunists and vultures liek the doc, friends who administered the drugs to Jackson and the ones feeding Jackson and stars like Anna Nicole Smith, etc the drugs they did, needs to stop. This needs to be exposed for what it is. I am relieved they are conducting a second autopsy. They need to go through everything with a fine tooth comb. Here is an opportunity to right some wrongs and go after these people. Maybe then this will deter these doctors ( I use the doc term loosely, they are drug dealers, pushers with a licence to sell and practice. They are the lowest of the low.

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@Patty Anne:
bb14. Sorry Patty Anne I didn’t mean to boast but I am from Australia, and every time I post something on AJ and BP i”m always told it is old news or we’ve read that before.
I realize that Australia is way behind in the celebrity news, but then we are along away from the action. It has been said that no-one knew where AJ and BP were so I was surprised to find in our paper this morning where they were. I hoped no-one else knew this and at LAST I would post something that no-one else knew. So sorry if you took it that way.

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@benjaminbutton14:

Hi…like your posts and would be happy all the way, if those Aussie tourists would have meet the Brange in the hallway of some LA hotel… but, sorry, not ( just) buying the story…. Aj and BP share X amount of houses between the two of them JUST in LA ALONE….. why go to a hotel… unless they want to be seen of course, in that case…. hundreds of photos would be available on the net …. unless I see photo evidence of the two together SOMEWHERE….. I don’t think they are ANYWHERE…..

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BREAKING:

It’s getting worse for the doc. He realized he was in big trouble.

Police are treating Jackson’s home as a potential crime scene, sealing off the room in which he collapsed.

Jacko was injected in the heart to try to revive him
EXCLUSIVE by Lara Gould, Kate Mansey and Nick Owens 28/06/2009

Second autopsy underway

Michael Jackson was injected in the heart with a shot of adrenaline as his doctor desperately tried to bring him back to life.

Dr Conrad Murray is believed to have plunged the syringe into Jacko’s chest in a scene reminiscent of Hollywood movie Pulp Fiction.

The medic hoped the jab would kickstart his heart but the star was beyond saving after a suspected overdose of painkiller Demerol.

Last night Michael’s family demanded a second autopsy – which was under way last night at a secret location – as a first examination ruled out foul play.

Family friend Rev Jesse Jackson said the family were demanding answers and were deeply suspicious about what caused his death.

Dr Murray was hired as Jacko’s personal cardiologist only 11 days ago by tour bosses AEG at the star’s insistence, it emerged yesterday.

He was last night being quizzed by the Los Angeles Police Department about what drugs he administered to the star. Dr Murray also had to explain why he went missing in the hours following Michael’s death.

Rev Jackson said: “Something happened to the doctor. He left. The police impounded his car. His absence raises questions of substance that will not go away until they are answered.

“Any other doctor would say, ‘Here’s what happened in the last hours of your child’s life.’ But he can’t answer the police questions – he left the scene and left his car. Who picked him up? Why did the police investigators impound his car?

“Did he inject Michael once or twice with Demerol? He owes it to the family and the public to say, ‘Here are the last hours of Michael’s life.’ The family needs an independent autopsy.”

Family sources also claimed they were preparing a multi-million dollar lawsuit against the doctor who administered Jackson’s daily painkiller injections.

When Michael died he was on a lethal cocktail of drugs. The deadly mix included painkillers, anti-depressants, muscle relaxants and anti-anxiety pills. The full list of drugs he was on were Vicodin, Dialudid, Xanax, Soma, Prilosec, Paxil, Demerol and Zoloft.

It is thought the dad-of-three’s breathing began to slow 40 minutes after he was given the shot of Demerol.

The drug – nicknamed “health tonic” by Jacko and known as Pethidine in the UK – is usually given to women in labour.

In large doses it can stop breathing. Within minutes of Jackson’s dose, it is believed his breathing became slower and slower. Dr Murray is believed to have hooked him up to a heart monitor.

Fearing that Michael’s heartbeat was becoming irregular, Dr Murray is said to have then injected him in the arm with Lidocaine – a drug designed to regulate heartbeat.

Michael is believed to have gone into respiratory arrest as his breathing came to a stop and his heart failed.

Dr Murray’s monitors registered a flatline – indicating that Michael’s heart had stopped.

In a desperate attempt to jump-start the singer’s heart, Dr Murray carried out mouth-to-mouth resuscitation and heart massage, which was revealed in the tape of the 911 emergency call.

Unable to rouse the star, he then injected adrenaline directly into his heart in a final bid to restart it.

It is normally injected into the arm but in extreme circumstances doctors can inject it straight into the heart to give a patient the best possible chance of survival.

The source said: “It was like a scene from Pulp Fiction, when John Travolta’s character Vincent Vega plunges a needle full of adrenaline into the chest of Uma Thurman’s Mia to revive her after a drugs overdose.

“A cardiologist with Dr Murray’s experience would know exactly how to carry this out.”

The drama unfolded as paramedics were still racing to the Beverley Hills home just after noon on Thursday after the alarm was raised by one of the singer’s aides.

They arrived on the scene and continued performing life-saving CPR on the singer for nearly an hour.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/celebs/news/2009/06/28/jacko-was-injected-in-the-heart-to-try-to-revive-him-115875-21476864/

Mr Phillips said Jackson “insisted” on Mr Murray’s employment at a “substantial” but undisclosed fee despite being told by AEG officials that “some of the best doctors in the world are in London”.

“He just said, ‘Look, this whole business revolves around me. I’m a machine and we have to keep the machine well-oiled,’ and you don’t argue with the King of Pop,” added Mr Phillips.

He added officers had spoken to Dr Murray immediately after Jackson’s death but now wanted to carry out “an extensive follow-up interview”.

Reports in the US suggested Jackson had stopped breathing after taking an injection of the prescription drug Demerol, a commercial name for pethidine, which can cause cardiac arrest if too large a dose is given.

Police are treating Jackson’s home as a potential crime scene, sealing off the room in which he collapsed.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/music/michael-jackson/5660400/Michael-Jackson-personal-doctor-was-paid-by-London-concert-promoter.html

Police are anxious to take statements from everyone who was at Jackson’s rented home in the exclusive Holmby Hills area of Los Angeles, which was once owned by Sir Sean Connery.

Reports have been circulating for years that Jackson was addicted to several prescription drugs, including Demerol and the anti-anxiety drug Xanax.

The Jackson family lawyer, Brian Oxman, compared Jackson’s death to that of Anna Nicole Smith, the former Playboy model who was found dead two years ago at a hotel in Florida, with an overdose of prescription drugs blamed for her death.

Mr Oxman said: “I warned against this situation. I thought his problem was severe. I made reference to what happened to Anna Nicole Smith, but this exceeded it in severity.

“I warned everyone, and lo and behold, here we are. I don’t know what caused his death. But I feared this day, and here we are.”

Mr Oxman, who was at the UCLA hospital with the Jackson family, said Jackson first started taking pain medication after his hair caught fire during the filming of a Pepsi commercial in the early 1980s.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/music/michael-jackson/5660400/Michael-Jackson-personal-doctor-was-paid-by-London-concert-promoter.html

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meet= met…oops

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Another Mystery Unfolds
The big question investigators will have for Michael Jackson’s personal physician is: Did he botch early efforts –Cardiopulmonary Resuscitation-CPR- on the King of Pop?
On the 9/11 tape obtained by the authorities, one of Jackson’s staffers said that Jackson is “on the bed” and that a “doctor is here.” The doctor is Dr. Conrad Murray.
Specialists said that it is odd that a veteran cardiologist like Murray would attempt CPR while Jackson was on a bed.

But common CPR practices call for the patient to be on a hard surface — because it is difficult to compress the chest on a soft surface. The 911 operator told the staffer to “get him on the floor.”
Cops have yet to officially interview Dr. Murray, but this will almost certainly come up.
http://www.sunnewsonline.com/webpages/news/national/2009/june/28/national-28-06-2009-07.htm

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@Patty Anne:
Me to with the “do” Patty Anne. As a teenager I took a picture of that magnificently maned creature into the salon and let them know that I wanted to look like that. Boy was I pissed! Didn’t happen because they were only beauticians not magicians. Remember the bathing suit poster where you could see a hard nipple. Well that was pretty risque for us. How funny it seems with todays tits and ass fests that we are treated to daily in our imagery. I think farrah was a little wacky doodle, but I liked her very much. I just can’t say the same about MJ. I feel bad for him, but he sickens me a little too much to care.

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@John:
He looked so frail. It seems one would crush him if they pushed on his chest too hard.
So it only took the fellow two weeks to kill him? Well if it hadn’t been him it would have been someone else supplying the dope. Ultimately an addict has to free themselves and no one in the world can do it for them. It is a prison of their own making and they are the only ones that can spring themselves. An addict is an addict is an addict. No matter rich or poor they are all the same.
I’m not trying to be cruel, just realistic.

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After Jackson was pronounced dead at 2.26pm weeping relatives whisked the kids back to the Jackson family’s main compound-style home in Encino.

It was only three short hours earlier that Jacko had been given the shot of Demerol – a powerful morphine-based painkiller he called his “health tonic” – that has been linked to his death. Chopra – who is also a well-respected medical doctor and Fellow of the American College of Physicians – confirmed to us the jab was administered.

He said: “It was the most inappropriate thing you could think of. To me it’s very obvious that he was given a drug overdose.”

“We were told that Michael had also been given a tranquilliser shot in the night and was pacing around the house frantically.

“He’d had a long day at his show rehearsals, which had ended after midnight. Weirdly the work left him completely wired – he was so exhausted he couldn’t sleep.

“He couldn’t sit down or stay still for a second and asked for a shot to calm his nerves.

Jacko told Chopra he took the painkillers for backache.

But the medic said: “He wasn’t confronting his addictions, which is the big problem.”

Chopra pleaded with Jackson to go into rehab but the singer brushed him off. “I was really desperate to help,” added Chopra. “But you can’t help somebody who goes into denial.

“I think that drug addiction was responsible for his death. It was THE thing that caused his cardiac arrest.”

Gupta has promised to point fingers if the toxicology tests come back with lots of drugs or drug overdose.

These docs cared more about Jackson’s performance, the money they would get from him, and the lifestyle then they did his well being or health.

If his heart specialist had been honest this woudlnt’ have happened. Odd, he’s in the care of aheart specialsit and succombs to a drug overdose by his injection and goes into cardiac arrest.

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@Vittoria:
Not true. Spears had family intervention. Intervention can be done, was done more in the past. Family, friends, need to work together as in the case of Spears. Look what her father was up against, but he did it anyway.

These aren’t people off the street administering drugs, these are doctors. They need to have their licences taken away and be charged. They are in a position of trust, they cannot be trusted. Their medicine and practice kills.

Jackson looked frail because he was anorexic. I have friends who are doctors who have told me that the reason people get that way is becuase no one is honest with them; they want something from them, affection, money, lifestyle power so they avoid telling them the truth. In th eend, we are all responsibel for ourselves and one another if we really care. No one can do it alone, not with ourselves or others. Remember that.

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@Patty Anne:
By some accounts the man was $300 million in debt. Keane’s article link said he was staying in a basement at one point. I don’t’ think it is money they’ll be inheriting, rather bills mostly. The one thing of worlth that he had was the Beatles catalog and that has already been sold if I recall correctly.

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@John:
Yeah sure intervention is great but they still have to want it. I have had a little experience here. My husband was a rehab king. He ultimately blew his brains out. We all tried to help him so many times and he had intervention after intervention and rehab after rehab.
P.S. The jury is still out on Britney and I”m pretty sure all is not as it seems with her. I’ll just wait and watch and hope for the best for her.

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@John:
Dear John…. I respect your deep engagement in the matter and everything you posted is very appreciated by me…. but let’s move on now…. I am aware of the news available to me… most what you pasted/posted here, I have already read. I appreciate ( and I mean it ) your efforts to inform us here….. but please, if you would, stop pasting and posting stuff which I can read online anyway…. I am scrolling to much for my own good now …. I am always interested what you have to SAY… if you just please would post the link …. would make things a lot easier for me to follow what you want to say…. hope you take it as I mean it : In the most friendliest way … please….

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@John:
For the record, I agree with you 100% about the doctors. They should definitely be taken down. The flip side of that is those who do need medication ocassionally have hell to get it due to people like MJ and doctors such as this. For example, I have a spinal condition and about once a year or so I hit a wall. Mostly homeeopathic medicine works quite well, but when those times do hit, a regular person can barely get more than an aspirin. Doctors such as that one have made it bad for the little people and legitimate occassional needs.

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@Vittoria:
Oh and my husband’s drug of choice was liquor. I couldn’t even get him to smoke a joint. very anti-drug. Well liquor is a very dangerous drug for a an alcoholic and you can get the hard stuff with no trouble at all. he lost his mind on legal dope. He should have just smoked a joint with me and calmed the hell down.

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@Ms Agatha:
I second that Agatha. Let’s move on.

There were no pics of them at the hotel and I don’t think it is real. Some random tourists from another country. Most convenient.

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@John:

I doubt anyone believes that the drugs did not kill him, his family believe that, but I am going to guess that the reason someone wants the death certificate to read MI is that the concert tickets will have to be refunded if it is due to an overdose. This is starting to sound more suspicious though, as someone may have helped him along. Hate to think that , but, if that were my family member that thought might occur to me.

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@Patty Anne:

Oen more thing and I’ll hush. A las Vegas doctor? That is the most telling thing of all. he was a prescription pad for hire.

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I was trying to be polite about Britney, but what the hell. I think she is a ticking time bomb.

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@Vittoria:
Thanks Vittoria….. I fully agree with John …. these enables need to be put against the wall…. but posting links to relevant sites would make my hectic 14 hr work day a lot easier…. and I get to READ the posts instead of scrolling down forever….. sorry to hear about your back problems… arrrghhh

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The real losers in this mess are the kids, on the one hand they have mothers they’ve never known on the other they’ve got a grandmother who looked the other way when her husband was beating the shit out of her children. I wonder if the Jacksons realize that a Judge is going to take a long hard look at the fact that Katherine is 79 and all the kids have said that Joe beat them and he’s still in the house. It might not be a bad idea for the kids to go to the nanny. I don’t envy whoever has to sort out his estate.

There will always be questions about his death. How ready was he really for these concerts, if the Nanny is to be believed he wasn’t and the promoters could be facing a serious financial loss, that a convenient death would take care of.

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@Kate:
Kate you do make an excellent point. The concert peeps had to have seen him and known that this fellow could not possibly honor the 50 concert engagement. The doctor did come from them, right? People have been killed for less.

My gut says this guy was just a doc for hire and gave him whatever he wanted and as much as he wanted. Don’t really know though and you do raise an interesting point.

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@Different Guest:
…hmmmm….convinient death my a.s thinking of the unthinkable now… hmmmm…. how many millions again where at stake ?

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@Vittoria:

No, they don’t have to want it. Britney Spears didn’t want it. It was thrust on her, against her will. I know people who have been treated against their will and have come out healthy. It wasn’t easy, the only way it succeeded was for everyone to get on the same page, work together and be honest. It’s the family and friends of the person having a problem that are just as dysfunctional as the person who needs help. They too relapse, become needy, aren’t honest, they fall back. It’s lack of discipline, lack of taking responsibtly and being honest as a friend, member of family. Ask any doctor and he’ll tell you if he’s honest. years ago, it used to be easier to get people who were sick the treatment they needed. Later, everyone had rights, could say no to anything and everything, to the extreme, and additonally, the privacy act supported and protected the perpetrators who kept people unhealthy. I know first hand on this also. Having family in this situaion and friends who are lawyers and doctors, was finally able to get someone the treatment they needed against their will.

The privacy, protection and the attitude you can’t treat somoene agains their will is the cause of abuse in seniors, those who are not capable of taking care of themselves. Money and power like Jackson had bought him anything he wanted – corruptly, but the average person doesn’t get the treatmetn they need. More and more seniors are abused and family members can’t do much to stop it if it’s another family member who is doing it. It takes a lot of help, follow up, various agencies workign together; as they fear lawsuits, it costs money to pursue and people in general don’t want to get involved. I know, I approached levels of government; this all costs money. It’s politics, money and power at the root. years ago things were different. People could get the help they needed; more people cared for their fellow man, more people sought help and got it, now, the attitude is, you can’t make anyone do things and so the person is forgotten, peopel avoid telling the truth, worried about being liekd, accepted, what they will lose or gain by being honest.

I also had a friend who repeatedly was abused by a spouse who was unfaithful; I’ll tell you now, it was the person who was abused who was just as reponsible for the situaiton as the person who was unfaithful and disrspectful. By doing any or a combination of the follwoing: putting people up on pedestals, trying to be perfect, liked, loved and looking for acceptance, money, power, caving into demands, tantrums, you create a monster. It takes a strong determined respectful personality and planing to change that situaion and it can be changed. I’ve been witness to many changes, including those who had drug, alcohol problems. Communication is important, settting limits is important. and yes, the person has to want to change, but there are ways of making that person motivated to change. Find out what motivates them and remove it for inappropriate behavior and give it for appropriate behavioru. Dont’ cave in, live a meaningful and purposeful life and live honestly, have your own life.

Vittoria said on June 27th, 2009 at 8:31 pm
@John:
Yeah sure intervention is great but they still have to want it. I have had a little experience here. My husband was a rehab king. He ultimately blew his brains out. We all tried to help him so many times and he had intervention after intervention and rehab after rehab.
P.S. The jury is still out on Britney and I”m pretty sure all is not as it seems with her. I’ll just wait and watch and hope for the best for her.

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@Vittoria:And the concert promoters are now claiming that MJ insisted that they hire this guy.

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@Ms Agatha:
Thanks dear as to the back, but worse things happen. As maladies go, it beats aids or a lot of other stuff. For this I am grateful.

me too about all the scrolling. I little finger was about to snap right off.

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@Different Guest:
…according to the Nanny … MJ didn’t even KNOW how many concerts he was going to do…. until the end, he believed he was doing 10 (ten) ….

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@Different Guest:
I saw that too. Hmmmm. one wonders.

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@Vittoria:
… I know, that may seem strange… but colon cleaning does wonders for back problems …. really… look into it

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@Different Guest:
It would be most convenient indeed and if the fellow was already getting shot up, what’s the trouble to put a little more in that syringe. It would be so easy. There is no way they could have had confidence in MJ’s ability at this point. I just don’t see how.

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@Ms Agatha:I would guess probably several hundred million when all was said and done – not that that would have been the profit.

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@Vittoria:aren’t the people who were rehearsing with him saying he was lethargic – how does someone who is lethargic do one concert let alone 50.

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@Different Guest:
‘Damn the grandmother is 79? To coin a popular phrase around here “Houston we have a problem”. Didn’t old Joe make them go pick out a stick from the yard for him to beat them with? Lovely. Nice folks. That should work out well. Talk about a case of the lesser of two evils. Whoa! Not a lot of good choices here.

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@Different Guest:

… who is the Machiavelli character in MJ life ? All the YES people around him….. makes AJ/BP look like kindergarten folks ….

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@Different Guest:
how in the hell does someone sing and dance (or even lip sync and dance) on all of that. he was on downers. Not the stuff to make one dance a jig.

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@Vittoria:Debbie Rowe may surprise people if she does get custody. I wonder if she wasn’t shall we say “persuaded” to give up custody. And I’m not talking about the $ she received.

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@Vittoria:

You know Agatha, I honestly had no idea many knew or read these things especially when I see reference to his skin problems, etc, other similar problems for cause of death rather than what really happned to him. I don’t tend to open links as often, yes, it makes it easier to scroll through, but if I see it in black and white I tend to read it. If I don’t, I sometimes read it, but often do nnot. I suppose we’re all different.

The doctors abusing drugs liek this is a very serious issue and one I feel can be changed, working together we can help one another to do posiitve things to change improve situaitons like this. Maybe by trying to change laws, speaking up, communicating strategies, successes in hopes of changing things for the better.

Ms Agatha said on June 27th, 2009 at 8:33 pm
@John:
Dear John…. I respect your deep engagement in the matter and everything you posted is very appreciated by me…. but let’s move on now…. I am aware of the news available to me… most what you pasted/posted here, I have already read. I appreciate ( and I mean it ) your efforts to inform us here….. but please, if you would, stop pasting and posting stuff which I can read online anyway…. I am scrolling to much for my own good now …. I am always interested what you have to SAY… if you just please would post the link …. would make things a lot easier for me to follow what you want to say…. hope you take it as I mean it : In the most friendliest way … please….

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@Ms Agatha:The interesting thing to me is they aren’t saying that he was estranged from his family but that he very little contact with them – so why should the kids go to the grandparents? They may know them as well as the two older ones know their mother. I suspect that MJ let anyone who told him no go. I also think it’s interesting that the Nanny was sacked 2 months ago – wouldn’t that be around the time people might start getting worried that he was not going to pull off the concert gig.

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@John:
It is hard. I tried to get my husband committed for help when he kept talking about offing himself. Couldn’t do it. It is very hard to do anything but a voluntary. Didn’t happen and the rest is history.

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I’ve always wondered if MJ was so abused that he wanted to look like a woman or if he was transgendered.

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@Ms Agatha:
what about rheumatoid arthritis of the spine? Does it do anything for that?

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… don’t I love my un-inventful little life ? AT least I have my ego intact, my money is mine , I don’t need to dance on anybody’s stage…. I hate yes -sayers , everybody says no anyway…. on the other hand … I need not be afraid to make it into the Who-Is-Who , never mind HW …….guess what ? … happy lol <

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@Different Guest:
..felt same… always wanted to be white woman…. transgendered very likely…. so sad… difficult for anybody …. but if you are MJ : Probably no way out… so sad

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@Kate:

No, incorrect, ticket refunds have nothing to do with how he died. Ticket companies will need to refund these tickets to the customers if they ever expect to get these people to purchase again for any other concert. It’s PR.

If say Ticketmaster did not refund tickets; the customer remembers. The company takes a bigger hit by not refunding than by refunding.

Eric Baker, chief executive of Viagogo, a British online ticket-exchange company, said in a statement that all tickets purchased via his company will be refunded directly, “no forms, no fuss, just refunded. We will be in touch with everyone in due course.”

Seatwave, another online ticket agency, sold around three per cent of the seats for the London concert series, and said it would refund all tickets purchased via its website. “This is the biggest cancellation I’ve ever seen,” Seatwave head Joe Cohen told Forbes.

Michael Jackson fans Karen Marcemy and David Vilo stand outside the Lyric Theatre in London, which is showing the musical Thriller, on Friday. (Matt Dunham/Associated Press)According to a spokeswoman for eBay, fans who purchased their tickets from private sellers on the online auction site should first contact the seller to obtain a refund. If the purchase was made with a PayPal account, it is also covered by insurance and a claim must be filed within 45 days.

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@Vittoria:
… need to check into it…. let you know

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@John:
John, glad you didn’t take offense…. we are on the same side here… love your determination…. if you sent me links, I can read at my own time…. so much more helpful … thanks

These quack doctors need to be prosecuted to the fullest…. I am afraid, that there is so much more going on with other celebs …. it’s a swamp….enough already

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@Ms Agatha:. It seems like he wanted to be a ddifferent gender and race. He was clearly a very sad person. Nobody can pull the sad out of you. you have to do it yourself. I met my husband late in his life, freshly out of rehab. By the time he relapsed I was already desparately in love with a really terrific person. he was also a little tragic sadly, but the best person i know and when he wasn’t in his cups he was the most amazing, kind hearted person. When he lived, he really lived. I think Michael was just too far gone and it made it so easy for the predators around him.

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@Vittoria:

We did have a family member committed. The reason they had to be is the person they were living with wasn’t honest and not doing their job. That person wanted to liked, seen as the nice guy and they created a monster. Until the person admits what they are doing, tough to change. It’s easier to live with someone who never voices the truth, is honest, avoids conflict, doesn’t set limits, is too needy to say no, or walk away, seeks affection, love at all costs, it’s more difficult to live with someone who is honest, can walk away when the person isn’t acting well, is abusive, calls a person up on an action (not in an abusive way – but empathetic). The truth is many people do not know how to communicate effectively, either they are passive, or aggressive, difficult to communicate from a point of care, respecfful, firm but not emotionally. To go out with friends, set limits, be firm when you need to be. I’ve seen friends cave into their children, time and time again, because it’s easier. Friends cave into their spouses, as they dont’ want to argue or seem mean. I’ve seen it so many times and discuss this situaiton with friends who are docs /psychiatrist. Need to surround yourself with people who are honest, not the ones who always tell you how great you are, but someone who will tell you when you’re good, and not so good. It’s difficult at first, gets easier after a while and then people tend to be creatures of habit and fall back into bad habits. That’s why we all need reality checks, people around us who can be honest, care, walk away at the right times, come back at the right times.

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@John:they don’t lose their
there has to be insurance on that type of…whatever so that they don’t lose…..whatever. Insurance is specific as Kate says and some things might be covered and some would not.

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@Ms Agatha:
No offence taken, it’s about mutual respect and communication here. We’re all different, we all have someting to add, learn from. Thanks for being honest.

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@Different Guest:
Fully agree…. grandmother too old for full custody… I believe the bio mother gets custody with some assistance custody of court appointed co-custodian …. everybody is in for the money though… I think, the only person the kids are closed to is the nanny. One day we will have a book out by her, and a few years down the road…. the kids can read and write…. and we will get to see their books… 3 of them… all from different perspective…

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@John:
lol… much love

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@Ms Agatha:
Agree. there are docs that are quacks. There are some good docs, but the quacks are just in it for the money and make it bad for those that are good, and for peopel looking for help. And like anyting, the medical industry is a business. Do they want to keep you dependent? What if you were to get better? What if everyone were to get better by eating and thinking and acting healthy? What if no one tried to be perfect? What if we weren’t all so competitive – did more to care for ourselves and one another? Would we need docs so much? Just like religion is a business, again if everyone ate, thought, acted well, were positive, thankful, happy, were respectful of self and others, yet no doormat either, and healthy would we seek religion as much? Perhaps people fail to see that. (not talking God or something spiritual here – God or spiritual and religion can be different things) Food for thought.

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@Vittoria:
…my heart goes out to you… addicts can be the most fascinating, colorful people in the world … and at same time most dangerous … f*ing with your mind….. like the fly who gets too close to the light….. you get too attracted, they burn you badly… you keep your sound distance… you can enjoy and help them most…

often after the fact ( called post traumatic distress )… we are the closest to them…

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@Ms Agatha:
I had no idea that it even existed as bad is it did. Whoa!

Ian made a new post!

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@John:
Just the idea to make money of people’s sickness….. the more money I make, the more they were sick …. something wrong with the idea of sickness being a commercial enterprise ? hello … forget about the oath… hypocrite oath – My body is like a car with spare parts I need to exchange from time to time… no money ? Bad luck…. Go to graveyard …

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@Vittoria:
From what I understand, the only thing that won’t get covered or refunded woudl be the order processing fee. Same as with any show where something like this happened. The only one who might not get a refund is someone who purchased from a broker, auction sites, people that were not reputable. Of course, some people are going to want to hold onto their tickets in hopes that these tickets will be collectors items and worth something some day.

AEG, the promoter of Michael Jackson’s “This is it” concerts has released the following statement:

“On behalf of the entire AEG organisation, we extend our deepest condolences to Michael Jackson’s family and friends during this tragic time. Full ticket refund information and procedures will be released early next week for all Michael Jackson “This Is It” shows. Fans are advised to hold onto their ticket vouchers/proof of purchase.”

See more information in here: http://www.billboard.com/bbcom/news/aeg-facing-85-million-refund-for-michael-1003988303.story

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@John:
Ah oh ladies…….I think I see an advert coming on. Someone sounds like they are trying awfully hard to drum up some business.

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@Vittoria:
From what I understand, the only thing that MIGHT NOT get covered or refunded might be the order processing fee – however they might refund that also. Same as with any show where something like this happened. The only one who might not get a refund is someone who purchased from a broker, auction sites, people that were not reputable. Of course, some people are going to want to hold onto their tickets in hopes that these tickets will be collectors items and worth something some day.

AEG, the promoter of Michael Jackson’s “This is it” concerts has released the following statement:

“On behalf of the entire AEG organisation, we extend our deepest condolences to Michael Jackson’s family and friends during this tragic time. Full ticket refund information and procedures will be released early next week for all Michael Jackson “This Is It” shows. Fans are advised to hold onto their ticket vouchers/proof of purchase.”

See more information in here: http://www.billboard.com/bbcom/news/aeg-facing-85-million-refund-for-michael-1003988303.story

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@John:
John, the attoneys have already said that it depends on the autopy, and if he died of a drug overdose. Are you watching interviews also?

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@Vittoria:
google rheumatoid arthritis of the spine colon cleanse ……. it works… believe me

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@Ms Agatha:
Thanks. It is called Spondylitis and it reeks.

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@Ms Agatha:
Okay thanks.! I vomit really easy though, so i don’t know how that will work out.

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@Vittoria:
…yeah… they can spot the innocent 10 miles against the wind ….. it’s a co-dependent situation… they need you , as much as dracula needs a drop of blood for sheer survival… and you have never meet a blockbuster personality like his/hers before….

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@Vittoria:
…talking about herbal detox …http://www.hps-online.com/colon/bcc3.htm

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@John:
John… 100 % agree…. I am still looking for a place like this….and haven’t found it yet… where everything is in harmony… but haven’t given up searching….

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@Vittoria:
bb14. Australia is not just another Country as you put it these 2 Aussie tourists have no reason to lie, they were going into the Hotel when Brad and Ange walked out thru the door. They have no reason to lie why AJ and BP were in the Hotel who knows with no photographers around doesn’t prove anything. Perhaps they were all at Michael Jacksons house, the 2 girls said there were dozens of photographers there. Maybe that was more inportant than photographing BP and AJ. Anyway I believe them.

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@Kate:

I don’t doubt the autopsy will indicate drug overdose.

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@Different Guest:

Knew someone who was so abused by his father, that he always looked for acceptance in men. He wasn’t transgendered, he became gay, trying to be the woman in the relationship after years of abuse by the father. The mother couldn’t protect him as she was abused herself and she was an enabler. She never spoke up, set limits, asked for respect; essentially she supported, nurtured and created the abusive husband/father, didn’t take enough steps including leaving when he was beating the son, shooting at the chidlren and herself when he was drunk as well as fooling around on her. She was too worried about how she would manage on her own, including how it would impact her change in lifestyle as they were weatlhy and she worried about losing all of that. This father was also friends with the chief of police – owned several businesses and essentially bought them off so any attempts at charging didn’t stick. Again, his wife and the police were driven by the wrong things; greed, lifestyle, and not wanting to ruffle feathers, lacked the courage, follow through and integrity necessary to do what was right, didn’t do their jobs and were enablers.

The son started acting out, pursuing men for affection, acceptance. We would talk about the torment he went through, and why he was attracted to men, how his mother tried to be nicer to him but never did the right thing in the end. He had a love hate relationship towards women. This guy also said he lacked respect for women because his mother didn’t have the courage to do the right thing, didn’t protect him against the years of abuse and violence, stayed with the dad because of her own fears and fears of loss.

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Michael Jackson’s father’s odd and out of place, europhic behavior after passing of son:

http://www.people.co.uk/news/tm_headline=laugh-of-michael-jackson-s-father&method=full&objectid=21477642&siteid=93463-name_page.html

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@benjaminbutton14:
I meant no disrespect to Australia. Please know that. It just seemed a bit odd.

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@Vittoria:
P.S. I also realize that Australia is a continent, not just a country. Again, no offense to your wonderful continent or its lovely people.

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@too curious:
I think a great deal of speculation, assumptions and judgments are being made by a great amount of people.

Truly Michael led a colorful life which kept him in the limelight for a very long time for many reasons, as did Farrah. Her present associates & connections too are behaving very much the same as what I witness with regards to Michael.

I am a fan of both, remained a fan of both through the years & will continue to be a fan from here on. I was deeply saddened by both loses. I’ll admit more so with regards to Michael strictly due to the fact of the affect that he had in my life. Apparently, I am not alone in saying such and fact remains indisputable to his unique presence and persona. It’s unfortunate Farrah is shadowed somewhat in Michael’s mass presence however I believe whatever affect someone has on mankind is due directly to the affect they had on us. THis is common for any one regardless of their fame, fortune or histroy. If the person has a negative effect or presence in life on others they don’t tend to receive the fanfare that someone who has had a positive one on at their demise. Those that touch us in most profound and uniquest of ways have legendary response… so to be fair the degree with which both individuals affected and touched our lives is the degree with which we will see the outpour.

Farrah was remarkable to me as was Michael. I remember them both for their individual ways they enhanced and enriched my life. Michael continued to hold an effect on me for many years while Farrah became more of a silent figure. This doesn’t lessen my respect or love it only lessens the profoundness with which I am affected.

In my opinion regarding to condemning of Michael for crimes which he was not convicted for is wrong. Until proven guilty a person remains innocent. If the person charging or claiming does not in fact carry on and continue in their endeavors to attain such victory it remains to what it was, an accusation. If he admitted committing such crimes, was convicted of or had been charged and ruled as guilty I too would say death need not play a role in when speaking in ill regards to him. This, however is not the case so to speak ill of the accused not convicted is equally as wrong as the reporters or claimants of stories claimed true not proven to be fact.

I think everyone should leave well enough alone, take what those we’ve lost have given us to remember them during this time.

Jeannie

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@lizzieb:
MJ looks so much taller, here. His mannerisms are a bit off. And his voice, is indeed, deeper.
MJ does have a lot of impersonators as does Elvis!

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@Alif:
The question about transgender-like qualities brings to mind what Liza Minnelli said about the big explosion (my phrase) that would happen once the truth came out.

At our church, when it came time for prayers requested, our pastor made a big plea for God to accept Michael Jackson into his kingdom, carried by angels!

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