IUC World Exclusive: Angie Friend Fears for her Six Children
An artist friend of actress Angelina Jolie told IUC tonight that around a year ago Jolie said “don’t you think I’d make beautiful babies with them”. The friend conceded that although Jolie may have been joking she’s worried that the sexy Hollywood actress might attempt one day to have kids with some of her children. She said Jolie does not believe incest is taboo and thinks the actress will eventually move to a country where it’s legal. Because incest is banned, the friend said, it is more attractive to Jolie. She claims Jolie only kisses her children on the lips, takes baths with them and gives them body massages. “She’s been intimately close with her brother James and several other relatives,” the source said. 
“I’m worried about what might happen when she gets older and her kids start developing. She’ll probably be alone then because no person can handle Angie’s fiery temperament for too long. I’m worried she’s going to seduce some of her children despite it being illegal. When it comes to sex she is very open about wanting to explore all boundaries.” Developing…
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Wtf? She is a disgusting piece of garbage. I feel so bad for her kids. If Brad has any brains he’ll go after full custody of all of the kids.
ReplyOh….ick!
Reply@dina:
I agree!!!
and that explains the last SRRC riddle. I’m really hoping that this whole thing is total bs and that Ian is lying. And not because I hate this blog or I’m a loon. But because that is seriously f*cked up and dark. Maybe she’ll OD by then? What is it? ‘the greatest trick the Devil ever pulled was covincing the world he didn’t exist”. Something like that yeah?
ReplyThe solution is clear! Angelina Jolie should adopt Lindsay Lohan, and they can go molest each other on a remote mountain valley called “The Land That Psychiatry Forgot”. A squad of eunuch Oompa-Loompas will guard the pass to the valley so that none sane can enter, none unsane may exit. At least, that’s my plan, hey I haven’t heard you suggest a better one yet . . .
ReplyWell that’s really pathetic and so absolutely ‘abnormal’ and I can’t say that I don’t believe it. This woman knows no boundaries. Can’t wait until Wednesday night with IAN’s new broadcast with a very special guest. Always, totally fascinating and certainly worth the wait!
ReplyOh. My. God.
There are just no words………..
Brad better fight all he can to get these kids away from her…………
Or will see pics of her french kissing one of her boys on the red carpet in about 10 yrs….and declaring how “so in love” she is with him!
I am wondering if it wasn’t Marceline….who was into incest with both Angelina and James…and Marceline’s boyfriends/husbands engaged in it as well?? Maybe that is why Angelina fu*ked her mothers boyfriend..is because SHE was welcomed to do it before..only when Marceline was in on the action….and that is why Angelina doesn’t see a problem with her actions in public w/ James…
ReplySo now she’s child molester ?
Reply@backalleyknees:
ReplyIt does. And this is unforgiveable. We know she has had relations with her brother and “several other relatives” as posted. So, who is going to step in before she has a baby with one of her “kids”, adopted or not. I mean is this like Woody Allen where they are not really hers biologically, because as a mom, they ARE hers. And who would jokingly say this… would you as a mom say this???? ” Oh, I would make beautiful babies with my children”……It’s not a joke and I think this is coming to the forefront, because it needs an immediate solution. Can someone call Protective Child Services????….Or is this a big joke ,, because it is not funny anymore….
OT: is this the real BP on twitter? http://twitter.com/thepitts
ReplyAngelina Derangement Syndrome – The mental state of anybody who puts out bad PR, press leaks, gossip, lies, manufactured information or conspiracy theories about Angelina Jolie with the intent to harm her.
Reply“She claims Jolie only kisses her children on the lips, takes baths with them and gives them body massages. ”
ONLY!!! Only…..this is completely inappropriate….I really believe that some of those kids are too old to be taking baths with their mother (maybe all of them are too old…it should probably never happen at all) and with her ideas about incest the massages are probably completely inappropriate, too…even if she is not touching certain areas, you can send a message anyway. Get those kids the hell away from her. now!
ReplySome news is breaking:
Replyhttp://www.nowmagazine.co.uk/celebrity-news/340959/jennifer-aniston-s-secret-dates-with-brad-pitt/1/
That’s what I don’t get.
There are people that KNOW things, and yet aren’t calling any type of child protective services. So in my book, they are ENABLING this to take place, and are as guilty as the perp ( in this case Angelina).
But then again, these people move around so much, that even a WHISPER of any authority checking on the welfare of those kids, and Angelina will pack em all up and go to Europe or Africa……..maybe that is WHY they are constantly on the move?? People are starting to ask questions…and questions leads people to talk to the authorities…where then an investigation starts.
I am sure those nannies have seen a lot of questionable things..but they are bound by a contract not to be able to speak about it.
ReplyIan, I really hope your insider contacts CPS over this. AJ is is a sick sick woman and should never be near those kids.
Reply@anna:
Reply“Can someone call Protective Child Services????” Someone needs to call them. In NY? It would probably be NY…but as someone wrote earlier, this is probably why AJ moves around so much….hard for anything to stick or hard for any follow up, if they are gone already. But some of these people that have info need to call. This is crucial…I hope someone does it.
@stinky-inky
ReplyI know some people are celebrating the two of them getting back together. But seriously? My opinion of her goes way the hell down if she and he are back to bangin’. I mean, damn. He treated her horribly and done her no favors and for her to just welcome him back like nothing happened makes me wonder about her. Just not sure how I feel about that.
I have to sort of agree–but the NOW article reports about Brad drinking and dialing–FWIW. So maybe JA just feels sorry for him. Pity isn’t the same thing as love. It’s difficult to respect someone you pity.
ReplyHere’s a pro-tip: if you use the red ‘reply’ link at the bottom of a specific post you are replying to, rather than just going straight for the ‘message’ field down here at the bottom of the page, not only will the user’s name appear in your post, but then other users can hover their mouse cursor over it and the message you’re responding to will pop-up. It’s brilliant and I’ve never seen this feature on any other blog.
For example, backalleyknees, rollover your name here: @backalleyknees: and you’ll see the post I’m replying to. Makes it really easy to track different conversations within the comments.
Cool huh?
Reply@stinky-inky:
ReplyI just hope she wasn’t pining for the phone call like so many people try and portray. I really do hope she pitys him.
@I’m on the bidet:
Replylove “The Land that Psychiatry forgot”. Hilarious.
@backalleyknees:
I should mention that I just noticed your question re: the red names in another post and thought I’d reply to you in this one, in case you don’t go back to the other one!
Reply@Sheriffe:
ReplyDude! I love the interweb! Thanks for the advice. That’s so cool. I am completely computer illiterate and that’s not a good thing.
New York State Child Protective Services…
1-800-342-3720.
Are they still in NY??
Reply@backalleyknees:
ReplyThe hover thing is the absolute greatest – sometimes there can be several different trains of thought interwoven through the comments, and since I always get to these threads late this really helps me work out who is talking to who and what they’re actually referring to.
@DonnaInMichigan:
“and that is why Angelina doesn’t see a problem with her actions in public w/ James…” Her actions with James is proof enough that something is very, very wrong with this woman (and James). She has no boundaries. Even is something sexual never happens with these children she can pass on very unhealthy and f*cked up morals/ideas. If they don’t get out of their now, I’m afraid there won’t be hope. They won’t have an idea what to be healthy sexually means….or emotionally. This is a crisis, imo. Someone better help now.
@anna:
“And who would jokingly say this… would you as a mom say this???? ” Oh, I would make beautiful babies with my children”” God no, I wouldn’t even think it. If this is true…to even say that out loud and think it’s OK is a tragedy.
@DonnaInMichigan:
ReplyI agree. “I am sure those nannies have seen a lot of questionable things..but they are bound by a contract not to be able to speak about it.”…you know, if they have seen something inappropriate they should call anyway. How could they live with themselves…this is all too much. Someone needs to DO something.
@DonnaInMichigan:
ReplyIan, can you call…..you have more solid info than we do.
Ummm. I need to say something and I hope it’ll be accepted in the spirit that I intend. I’ve enjoyed reading this blog and am very happy to have found a place that doesn’t kiss Brangie’s ass. However, the subject matter the past few days has been really disturbing. I really feel that it’s inappropriate to speculate on this kind of thing on a message board. I’m not interested in or worried about protecting AJ but some day the kids will be old enough and curious and they’ll google their parents. Maybe even themselves and they’ll come across this. Imagine how you’d feel if you read a bunch of strangers discussing a very painful event in your life. On the other hand, imagine how you’d feel if you read a bunch of strangers discussing a false rumor and you know that there are people out there who believe this happened to you. Either way, I imagine it would be traumatic.
Do I think that she should be protected if this is true? Of course not, but a bunch of people speculating about this type of this on a public forum won’t solve this problem. If someone knows something, they need to speak up to the proper authorities. Ian’s source even said that she doesn’t know if this has happened.
This is an issue in which, if true, any other child would be afforded anonymity. These children have already been robbed of any chance at that in their daily life and making something like this public will only serve to further hurt them. If these kids have been subjected to this, they deserve help but they also deserve the chance to heal in private. If this isn’t true, then all of this speculation is plain awful. Either way, I don’t see any good coming of this.
I want AJ brought down and exposed for the fraud that she is, just like everyone else. But I don’t think that the kids’ dignity should be sacrificed in the meantime.
I’ll continue reading on other subjects, but I definitely won’t be posting on any of these threads.
Again, I hope that this won’t be taken as judgment or an attack on anyone. I just wanted to put this out there because it’s really easy to get caught up in all of this without thinking about the effect it can have on real people in real life.
Reply@stinky-inky:
Partner…Don’t believe on this magazine…According to well informed people from this site: NowMagazine is untrusted tabloid. Don’t waste your time with it.
04 Weeks ago, this magazine (NowMagazine) stated that Brad and Angie are strong and happy…and I included the link….but I received the news (from someone of this site) that it is the worst tabloids in the world.
God Bless you.
Reply@cynicalone:
ReplyYou know sadly, everyone is afraid to post this sh*t, and that’ s why I give great kudos to Ian . This is not easy to post and has been hidden for too long. He is so amazing to post this and get it out into the open. I totally believe this is true and it breaks my heart. If you dismiss this , you are burying your head in the sand, and only YOU will be responsible for that action. I almost feel like this is a total redemption for Ian and this site… as it is now in the open and hopefully someone can take care of this….Lawyers, CPS, anyone?!
@anna:
ReplyWow, you only read about half of what I said. I’m not dismissing anything and I made it perfectly clear that if this is true, she needs to be brought to justice. I’m just saying that it needs to be handled differently. I’m not suggesting that anyone who can help a child in need should turn a blind eye. I’m saying that the venue is wrong. Lawyers aren’t going to jump on this because there’s nothing concrete. If Ian’s source is solid, then that person or Ian needs to pass that info. on. I’m not even so much questioning Ian’s reporting it because he has a source, but us getting caught up in what ifs and the such. YOU are responsible for whatever you choose to comment and that’s fine. I just meant to point out that these children deserve a little consideration before we get lost in the empowering anonymity that the Internet offers. It’s easy to say things online that you’d never say to someone in person because you can lose sight of the real life consequences.
@cynicalone:
I understand exactly what you are saying.
Hopefully once these ‘parents’ have been brought to account for the shocking upbringing their children are subjected to that there will be some natural internet cleansing with the passage of time. Despite what we all believe, mostly things do eventually disappear from the internet. Even the wayback machine can’t always keep formatting of comments etc. I have moderated forums and online communities in the past and I’m often amazed once a site has closed how difficult it is to recover information from that site. As an example, I’ve had conversations with old internet buddies and we’ll be like, “oh, man – remember that stuff that everyone was talking about on our site in sept 2003 – that was some tawdry stuff right there… I wonder if I can track it down?” and sure enough, despite best efforts, we can’t. No one kept an archive, the wayback machine only archived certain pages etc. And news sites often archive stuff just to save bandwidth.
I think mostly those kids will be pretty safe – particularly from the comments made on this particular site.
Reply@cynicalone:
I agree, this is painful to discuss this. However, If something like this is TRULY going on, it is better to bring light to the situation. These type of people DEPEND on keeping this in the dark. That is how they get away with it. NO one could believe that “Our Lady of Charity and Perpetual Adoptions, Saint Angelina”, could even contemplate doing this to her own children. But you need to look at Angelina’s past….especially her “relationship” with her brother. There is all signs of incest there. Angelina probably doesn’t have any boundaries she wouldn’t cross, because she hasn’t been TAUGHT right from wrong. Not from her father, not from her mother…she has had NO guidance. She has essentially USED her body, to get what she wants out of life. And that started at a very young age. This is learned behavior. More than likely watching her OWN mother, dealings with men. Marceline, might of been open minded sexually and engaged her OWN children in her “lifestyle” choice. This is then passed down from generation to generation…..and it is sickening to even think about. But this kind of things DO happen. Why do you think after years and years of sexual abuse, that it takes persons sometimes, years to come forward and say, MY father did this to me, or MY uncle/grandfather/sister/Mother..etc?? It’s because people like YOU, who can’t accept the fact that this goes on DAILY in families, that you would actually BE shocked that it is happening too. You would rather NOT hear about it. It’s a shame that children have to live with the rest of their lives.
Hello, my name is Donna, and I am an INCEST survivor.
ReplyOh my god. I am sickened by this but given AJ s lack of morals and her relationship with her brother it does not surprise me. I hope the source does something to protect the children and hats off to Ian for having the balls to post this info. As Anna said everyone else is too afraid to print this stuff. Does anyone know if JH has ever had a relationship other than with AJ? oh and as for magazines we have one called WHO in Australia and they constantly kiss brangie ass. I have written to them and they never respond or print my letters prob cos I question the editorial promise they make in every issue. Back to Ians latest if there is any decency with the source then they should do what they can to protect the children. AJ is sick and twisted and really any wonder she loves certain countries that have lax laws?? mmm Ill come back later but right now I gotta go. Love to all.
Reply“This is an issue in which, if true, any other child would be afforded anonymity.”, Cynicalone, I agree with this…and it would be awful if the children ever see this. Although, they have already been shoved into the public eye without their consent by their own parents.
The bottom line for me here is this, and it goes along with what Anna said, if this in anyway helps get those children safe. If someone finally calls child services because of this, then it is a great thing. I can only hope that happens. There has not been proof enough for us, those who aren’t close to the family, to do anything about it. I have been feeling frustrated for a while because something seems very wrong there and my hands are tied. I hope this pushes something positive to happen for those kids.
Reply@DonnaInMichigan:
ReplyOh I just read your comments wish I could hug you! I do agree with everything you have said, too many people shove their heads in the sand rather than accept that people can be sick and can hurt the ones they are suppose to love and protect. Ajs mother certainly has a lot to answer for and maybe she is.
This is a highly charged and emotional subject and my heart genuinely goes out to you Donna – I hope the perpetrator has been brought to justice and that you have some peace. Nothing can ever replace the protection and proper upbringing that you were denied – and that makes me, as a mother, red with rage.
Just wanted everyone to take a second look at part of cynicalone’s first sentence, which was: “I hope it’ll be accepted in the spirit that I intend.”
Those few words are key to interpreting the rest of the post.
ReplyBig hugs to you Donna.
Reply@Sheriffe:
Thanks Sheriffe. I really appreciate that.
I’m not trying to stir up anger but this subject is emotional and I suppose and differing opinions on this will incite anger. That’s fine because I said what I needed to say and you all have that right as well.
Reply@MickeyB:
Thank you MickeyB…that was kind, of you.
But it took years of Therapy to get me where I am today.
I just see the classic signs…from Angelina. Those kids are not allowed, to have a normal life. No real friends, no real contact w/ anyone. They are with the nannies or parents. Keep them closeted off from others. Except maybe on birthday parties, where they will have kids in for a few hours, photo ops..etc. But they are mostly at home w/ Nannies. Who do they trust? Who can they turn to? They are left to deal with the pain and shame by themselves.
We don’t see these kids out playing, LIKE normal kids……with friends…it’s sad…because the parent is afraid their sick dark secret is going to get exposed. The abusing parent, becomes more controlling as the child ages. They want to know every detail of what you said to a friend, or where it is you are going, what time you will be home, etc. That is why I say, when these kids become of age, we are going to see them in the TABLOIDS, drinking, drugging, and getting in such horrible situations, illegal things. Just like their mother.
Reply@cynicalone:
The difficult thing when discussing topics like this is that tone/intent can be so easily misinterpreted. The bottom line is that everyone is on the same page – we tend to forget that because we get so angry when children are involved.
Instead of directing our rage at each other, we should be working out ways of bringing witches like Jolie to justice, and figuring out ways so that all children in future are safe.
Donna, I can only imagine how difficult it is for you to even come forward and admit to this. I am in awe of your strength in even being able to mention it.
ReplyYou are a strong woman, Donna. You are very brave. And it sounds like you are facing the terrible things that happened in your life. I love how Sheriffe put this: Nothing can ever replace the protection and proper upbringing that you were denied – and that makes me, as a mother, red with rage.
I so agree….when children are abused it’s something that will, sadly, stay with them, even through years of therapy. It’s devastating. The lack of true love is so wounding.
Yes, this is emotionally charged, no doubt. And I think everyone can have their opinion. Cynicalone, after I read your post I had to think a long time before I responded..and in no way was I slamming you…just want you to know that.
ReplyNo, in my situation Justice wasn’t served …well at least not here on Earth.
But he was Judged by a higher power, and I am sure he is living in H E double toothpicks.
At least that is what gets me through the day. Knowing that he is where he will have to live an eternity in the blazes…
Reply@DonnaInMichigan:
ReplyAnd if those kids do end up drinking, drugging etc when they come of age, they’re gonna end up in the tabloids and called out as ‘Hollywood spoilt brats acting out’. It’s a lose-lose situation for the victim, isn’t it?
Like most of the posters here, it was my concern for the kids that led me to this site.
It’s too distressing. I’m gonna have to take a break.
Big hugs to everyone here, x.
Reply@Sheriffe:
“we should be working out ways of bringing witches like Jolie to justice, and figuring out ways so that all children in future are safe.” So what can we do?
Please, if you are reading this, the artist source, please do something. We don’t know if child services have been called yet…but one more call can only help. Something is terribly wrong in that family. What kind of person purposely sets up photos ops with their children….that is just one small example. If Jolie really said this…even if she was joking…she needs to be stopped. It’s no joke.
ReplyHere is the website for California CPS :
http://www.dss.cahwnet.gov/cdssweb/PG93.htm
Here is the website for NewYork CPS :
http://www.ocfs.state.ny.us/main/cps/
Now is anyone gonna file a report ? Also does anyone think since, Ian is alleging that a “source” is alleging all this. That CPS will want to talk to Ians’s source ? I really do wonder wonder about this source’s disturbing allegations. Just seems very extreme .
Reply@Z:
Not a problem, hun. I don’t feel attacked; I just wanted to make sure that the intentions of my post were clear.
Donna, I’m so sorry to have upset you. I am a mother and would never stick my head in the sand in regards to my kids’ well-being. I would fight with every last breath to ensure their safety. All children deserve that and I can tell that you feel the same. The only difference for me is that my making a speculative comment on a message board isn’t going to do those children any good. If someone has something, anything of proof then it needs to be brought to the table, so to speak. It’s fine that you guys don’t agree and if my stance upsets you, I’m sorry for that.
I thought long and hard before I made my post because I knew that it would cause a stir and I considered keeping my mouth shut and just not posting on these threads. The only reason I felt that I needed to make my feelings known was because these threads can run right off the rails, if we, as posters don’t keep in mind that there are real people (BTW, I’m talking about the children, here; not AJ) that will be affected.
I needed to say it, so I did. Now, back to our regularly scheduled program…
ReplyWhy do you all think that Angelina had to go outside of the USA to adopt a child?
She would never be able to pass a family background check here …and especially with her admitting herself into a psych ward….and her past…of drug abuse, etc.
The problem is that NO adoption agency in their right mind would of given this woman a child, HERE in the USA.
But grease some third world country, higher ups palms w/ a HUGE amount of money, and get into the UN Ambassadorship….and you pretty much guarantee you can get what you want, in those 3rd world countries.
That’s why I was flabbergasted, that this woman, who just a few short years,before was admitted into a psych ward, could go over to Cambodia, and pick herself up a child..and walk out of that country with him! WTF?
Reply@cynicalone:
“If someone has something, anything of proof then it needs to be brought to the table, so to speak. ”
This is the bottom line….someone who is in a position to do something needs to do it. Even if it’s is an observation, something they have seen, they need to act on it.
ReplyYou need a license to fish, to drive, etc, etc…but anyone can have a kid. Does make you wonder why she keeps having the bios overseas.
Reply@DonnaInMichigan:
ReplyExactly! It is so heartbreaking. And from what I understand Maddox was an illegal adoption and the adoption process over there has been shut down (after Jolie paid a lot of money for him). I think Kate has more accurate info on this. But yes, I don’t believe she ever could have adopted here either. And she is being turned down by other countries, too. Not only the mental illness, the drugs, the incest, etc, etc….but why is she still trying to get more children, when obviously she is not taking care of the ones she has. She is working all the time. She is using her children for her image. Let’s just look at emotional neglect. That alone is abuse and it messes a child up. It infuriates me.
@another lurker:Just my opinion but if she is Fake a la Ferocity then she quit the heroin and went on Methadone while pregnant, all the while intending to go back on the H after the baby was born. Now, having seen how celebs hospital records have been spied into (i.e. Britney Spear’s records) in California hospitals, she may have decided it was better to not deliver in an American hospital where there would be blood tests etc and everything written down where various hospital types may snoop. She took her American physician to Africa to deliver her baby but he/she cannot breach patient/doctor confidentiality so she is safe there. The other workers in the hospital may not have had access to her records or have been able to red English. Just my opinion, could be totally wrong.
Reply@ffleur:gah! “read” English. Wish there was an edit button!
ReplyI hate Angelina just as much as anyone, but I think your “source” is bullshit and you better have a good lawyer if you are going around throwing around serious accusations like this and having your ignorant blog followers calling CPS without any solid evidence (other than your pathetic blog).
Better seek legal advice, there are limits to “freedom” of speech. Good luck.
ReplyTROLL said on May 12th, 2009 at 12:31 am
Nicole, clap, clap, clap, you are the ONLY sane person on this here site! I totally agree with everthing you have written. Thing is the other people on this blog don’t realise that if Ian posts it then there could be a teeny tiny bit of truth to the rumor as he can be sued by the Brange, but if SR or Ms 9 put their little riddles forth there is no truth behind it as they (Ian), put it in a way that it’s up to the imagination what people concoct & therefore he is not personally slandering them. They are just so happy looking for ways to degrade/defame Angelina that they will believe THE absolute worst possible scenario.
Just had to bring this over from the other thread.
Reply@Sheriffe:
Thank you Sheriffe for your thoughtful response. Cynicalone’s post has been taken a bit out of context, I believe. I totally understand where Cynicalone is coming from. Cynic made it clear she wasn’t judging anyone … just voicing her discomfort with the subject (which I ABSOLUTELY FEEL AS WELL)… and her OPINION on top of it.
Anna, I know for a fact you are not the only survivor of incest/child abuse on this board. You are not alone, sister. It is a horrific thing. There is nothing simple about it.
If I had first hand knowledge of ANY child being abused, I would be the first to contact authorities. But if I don’t have first hand knowledge, I am making my judgment on hearsay. You cannot convict someone on hearsay. I know a man who was accused by his oldest daughter of molestation. He denied it and fought every step of the way. His wife believed him but they family had to separate because their other children would have been taken away from her as well had she not left him. $120,000 worth of legal bills and a bankruptcy later, the daughter admitted she had lied to get even with him for not allowing her to live the lifestyle she wanted to live. I know both sides of this coin first hand. There are no winners.
Reply@Nicole: . We’ve been thru this already. There are no less than 3 witnesses that have given Ian statements re excessive drug use and deviant behavior, that’s not counting the people who are just blind sources, and not one seems to have doe a damned thing about it, like calling child protective services. Even tho if anyone looked into her history she would never have been permitted to adopt. They just all just seem to like telling Ian/SR/9¢ salacious stories. Right Toni and Kimmie?
I don’t deal with the stories about parentage. I assume if no one can get specific about it, it may not be true and I agree it’s plain mean spirited to speculate on that. Similarly if one party is a rapist or a pedaphile come out and say it. Otherwise I won’t bother with those stories either, and certainly not spend time on speculation. But there would seem to be enough evidence that this is a detrimental situation for the kids to call protective services, if these stories are true. Which makes me wonder if the stories are, if not false, then greatly exaggerated. Otherwise it’s hard to believe no one would blow the whistle. Was I just taking a gossip board too seriously and maybe there hasn’t been more concern shown bc it’s just expected most sources are full of shit? Otherwise I can’t explain it.
Reply@Togi:
ReplyI’m sorry … I as talking to DONNA, not Anna. Please forgive me, Donna.
I love how this thread has become an online therapy session. LoL!
Reply@p:
“and not one seems to have done a damned thing about it, like calling child protective services.”
This is what I wonder, too…why hasn’t anybody done anything? Unless things are happening in private, behind the scenes, that have not been leaked. I imagine it would be something that legally would have to be kept quiet. Don’t you think? Because I can’t think of any good reason someone would not call, if even a portion of these things are true. But as people have pointed out, in other posts, Ian has not been sued. If the sources are lying, wouldn’t he be stopped? Anyway, I should get some sleep….
ReplyThe funny thing is you people believe everything this guy says but where is the restraining order Angelina was supposed to put on Brad and countless other claims this guy has claimed? I really hope you do file a claim with CPS that way Angelina and Brad will know what this guy is trying to do to her. This is an extremely vile claim … worse than anything he’s ever claimed before so I think he’s definitely has an agenda against Jolie and I would not be surprised if this is the last straw for Pitt and Jolie to go ahead and sue this guy. it’s obviously what he wants and it would be really easy to track down the supposed many insiders that talk to only him about Jolie. all they have to do is track down Ian and see if he really does have any insider and go from there. If like many of your others claims turns out to be false you should feel ashamed of yourself.
Reply@Z: . I don’t know, that’s what I assumed iinitially. Maybe this has to do with technicality…how much legal mileage you get from “a source” passing on a story. I’m not sure about legal loopholes. But how reliable are these ppl if they’re behaving this way? Something doesn’t add up.
ReplyAlso there’s actually PIX of Brad PITT hanging out with a a recently arrested pedophile. Ian, stop using Brad Pitt fans for hits and give them the truth already.
ReplyThe libelous and slanderous accusations on this webpage are a threat to the safety and physical well being of Angelina Jolie. Ms. Jolie is a U.N. AMBASSADOR and her protection as a DIGNITARY falls under the jurisdiction of the UNITED STATES SECRET SERVICE. Forget lawyers and lawsuits. The UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT will shut this place down to protect Ms. Jolie’s physical well being.
Reply@p:
How you doing P ?
I know your right P. I put the CPS numbers out there to call bluff. I know damn well this story is crap. A source would go to Ian but, wouldn’t go to the authorities .. The can remain anonymous call and call any cps number or 911 . They don’t have to call from their homes or cell phones just make a call if this was the case. But, it’s not. And what do we have a feeding frenzy of some ,ready to demonize Angelina even more. Without any proof there’s no investigation by CPS that Ian or the source can even reference to. This isn’t gossip or anything remotely tantalizing. It’s mysogyny , cruel , distrurbing fan-fiction . This is way over the top and Brad and Angie should sue at this point. Noone could blame them. I think that’s what Ian wants. He wants to be noticed by mainstream . That’s why the stories are getting more extreme. I guess masking the bs under blind items , supposed sources and hinting about and allowing posters to come to their own conclusions. He has avoided being sued.
@ffleur -Hey ffleur how are you ?
@Troll-Why thank you . LOL . Stick around and please your opinions.
Reply@Nicole:
correction=links not numbers.
Reply@p:
ReplyYeah, I don’t know much about it at all. Legally, I know nothing. But, if what they are saying is true, and they haven’t made a call or done something about it, then they aren’t reliable…and they are worse than that. Night, P.
@Z:
ReplyOh another thought, wasn’t the Limo driver going to write a book? You know where the hell his mind is then. Only on the money.
sorry if my comments upset anyone but I find this subject extremely upsetting. Maybe cos I am a mum? anyway I didnt mean to judge anyone on this site but the thought of children being hurt makes me angry. I have to say that I am impressed with Donna’s strenght and courage. Therapy and admitting that sort of trauma is a huge thing and I am blown away by her strength. I think I am rambling now but I hate knowing that there are children in this world who are being betrayed and terrorised by people that are spose to protect them. Not just AJs kiddies but any person that is in pain. It just reminds me of how cruel people can be, I hope that this isnt true, even though I cant stand AJ as I feel she is manipulative and cruel I wouldnt want the children suffering in this way. But I do have to question her overseas adoptions and that all her adoptees still have family members ( yet Madonna is judged so harshly while AJ is a saint??) how much does a child cost these days anyway? she is not fit to be a mother as Mothers put their childrens needs first not their own desires. Children need stability amongst other things yet AJ wants them to be children of the world! what do these innocent children want or isnt that important? oh I gotta go, I am getting way to emotional! love to all – big hugs for the survivors x x x x
Reply@Nicole: . No I think Angie’s past is enough to preclude her from adoption that’s for damn sure. A lit of scratch bought her kids. With her history NO WAY would she be permitted to adopt. Drug abuse, suicide attempt, and being held in hospital for observation for depression only a few years before she adopted her son. Shit like that don’t go away just bc of trips to Africa. Then there’s the phot-op (supposedly candid) shots of the kids…a HUGE red flag, along with the photo layout she did of her eldest. Oh and then there’s changing a THREE YEAR OLDS NAME??? Completely disengaged with the welfare of children. The Times did call AJ out on her extraordinary ability to manitpulate and boy if that’s not in evidence. Only a moron or a wacky troll could look at the picture and not know something was very wrong.
However the focus here is really not too concerned with this stuff. And the sources, however much they may or may not know, seem like opporttunists. And I’m saying it’s impossible to say how severe things are, or how much the nannies are able to compensate, not only in the parents extended absence, but when they’re around.
I posted the number a long time ago too. No one to my knowledge called.
Reply@Z: . Night Z.
ReplyFirst — if there’s been child abuse (sexual, physical), the police must be told. Ian, “artist source”, that means you.
Second — There has been no child abuse by AJ. The artist source says that pretty much straight out. This post is sensationalizing the source’s “worry” that AJ might possibly do that in the future. The basis for this concern, however, is pretty flimsy, namely:
- A joke by AJ (out of context?)
- AJ being sexually adventurous (so are most at college/university and other celebs, but no one is saying BP is a incestuous pedophile).
- AJ has been ‘intimately close’ with JH and other relatives. (The implication is sexual intercourse. If that comment is not based on anything past “playing doctor” with other little kiddie relatives or the JH lip kissing and body hugging, AS should get a lawyer ASAP).
- AJ doesn’t believe incest is taboo. (I think AS means that AJ thinks the taboo nature of incest is attractive. If so, it doesn’t make sense for AJ to move to a country where it is not illegal. If incest was legal, where would the attraction allegedly be for AJ?)
The last point is the doozy. Having said that, I can find you a few people in the sexually adventurous west coast who think consensual incest by adults is icky but shouldn’t be criminalized. And just for the record, I believe incest is really bad and should be criminalized. (and as an aside note re. the kissing kids on the lips, may be a cultural practice — a parent’s quick peck on the lips for their kids is not overly uncommon in a multicultural place).
Look, I don’t know AJ so I can’t tell you how it is with her. I will admit I quite liked her feisty attitude and rebellious nature she had early on. I liked her frank admissions re. liking girls (when it was pretty chancy to do so) and her open attitude re. her cutting, knives, blood vials etc. Admittedly, the vials et al is weird but people used to be “blood brothers” (does anyone remember that?) and knife play and S&M, while definitely weird, isn’t enough for me to call her an incestuous pedophile (or more accurately. The S&M, knife play and especially the cutting may all be consistent however, with someone who was sexually abused as a child. I don’t know her so I can’t say but I wouldn’t be surprised.
Having said all that, give me a break about AJ. Yes, she might be mean and vindictive, she could be manipulative and incredibly self-absorbed/self-centered and viciously ambitious. Sure. Maybe. Dunno. And while those are bad/evil things, I don’t know if I would really say that that really sets her apart from many of the other celebs in Hollyweird (don’t even get me started re. plastic surgery & AJ. Really, so what if she did. Don’t tell me Cruise et al don’t do it and deny). She might even have a BPD, as some have suggested. I dunno, possibly. And, more to the point, I will likely never definitively know. I can live with that.
What I can’t particularly live with is furthering this spiraling hate fest of AJ based on the flimsiest of evidence, like the above. If you have something more substantive, I’m all ears. I love gossip as much as the next person. But give me something more that a joke and a fairly baseless “worry.”
ReplyOkay, after going back and re-reading this, it looks as if nothing bad has happened. I hope this source might have misunderstood what she was saying or the source might be lying.
Reply@sth: . But you can of course hope some someone challenges the adoptions based on the below excerpted post and at least hope she’s drug tested and prohibited from further adoptions. I’m sure just based on the knowns, you’re as concerned about the indesputable injustices toward the children as you are about unfairly sensationalizing AJ. Right?
[History of drug abuse, suicide attempt, and being held in hospital for observation for depression only a few years before she adopted her son. Shit like that don’t go away just bc of trips to Africa. Then there’s the phot-op shots (supposedly candid) of the kids…a HUGE red flag, along with the photo layout she did of her eldest. Oh and then there’s changing a THREE YEAR OLDS NAME??? Completely disengaged with the welfare of children. (I'm sure you would agree with THAT one)]
Reply@Nicole:
ReplyNicole, I would think that if IAN got the information from a source who really is AJ’s friend and if AJ really did say that about the beautiful babies, then there are no grounds for suing anyone. You can’t sue someone for repeating something that you actually said, now can you?
@p: . I forgot to mention there’s also an inappropriate bent to talk about things that are intensely private — like having sex with BBT, decades after the sexual revolution had occurred so there’d be no sociopolitical statement to be made by that kind of exhibitionism, very suspect considering this was near the millenium — again this was not long before someone allowed her to adopt. And continuing to make public things which most stars are private about… like talking about the children in too much detail in interviews. Not to mention Aj flew in and out of relationships willy-nilly. Shit some adoption rep from a country that Madonna had applied to, just said bc of her sexual persona and transient lifestyle they didn’t consider HER a good candidate for adoption, and she has no drug history that I’m aware of.
Reply@Canuck:Truth is the only defense against being sued for defamation. And I do find it very odd, given the subject matter, that the board has not been shut down. To me that means someone has some damning evidence. Didn’t Ian make a post recently in one of the threads that the kids are out of AJ’s control and she’s frantic to get them back? Which possibly means that something has been done. I’m also surprised that we haven’t had any happy entire family photo ops.
Reply@Different Guest: . There is the supermarket shopping trip not too long ago. I don’t think Ian said the kids wre taken away from her already, surely he would have no? Wouldn’t there be court or police records?
And I’d check and be sure that having “a source” does not earn a lot of mileage in the US in avoiding a liable case. Examine closely what the “sources” are alleging. One of the few truly damning things said directly as fact was said by SR and posted in the comments area about Angie drugging Brad, painting his toe nails etc… Even the wacky stories by the Examiner are untouchable bc of sources. That sites still up too. I do believe based on her track record she’s bad news (the KNOWNS are bad enough) I just can’t say what’s true and what isn’t.
btw here’s what appears to be the Pitt’s twitter page.
Replyhttp://twitter.com/thepitts
@Different Guest:
Yes, he said that Brad’s parents have them. Also, as was posted on another thread, AJ has supposedly been given two days off filming to attend Cannes. The children are not coming along. Let’s hope they are getting some structure happening in their lives from the Pitt grandparents, because if reports are to be believed they haven’t been getting much of that up until now. Also, if what our Australian friends has posted about James phoning Jane and telling her that BP was a kidnapper for taking the kids to Niagara Falls on the Canadian side is true, that would indicate to me that he does have physical custody of the kids.
Didn’t SR hint at BP having the goods on AJ (sex film) and maybe using that to keep all the kids? If he’s gotten them into the safe hands of his parents, he’s not likely to take the chance on bringing them back into AJ’s clutches at Cannes.
ReplyWith regard to anyone calling CPS, it is usually a tricky situation for people. I had a good friend who was with a man who beat her and was generally a drug-using maniac. Sent her to the hospital a couple of times with serious injuries. She had a child with him. Believe me, it’s never easy to call CPS because one risks losing the friendship. Needless to say, the call was made. Obviously, it was in her child’s best interest and despite knowing what a psycho her baby daddy was, she was still angry that the call was made. People who lack awareness about how unhealthy their situations are and who are in denial, don’t think like most rational people. My guess is that anyone with damning info on Jolie, such as child abuse, would be very close to her. They may be fearful of her revenge. Also, I would like to add, a confidentiality agreement would not stand up in court if a nanny or caregiver went to the police of CPS to report abuse. If there is a nanny that has seen questionable things, I would hope she would have a heart and that child’s best interest and do something to protect the child.
Again, as I have said many times, truth is a defense to defamation. Let Jolie sue so we can all hear what she has to say about all of this under oath.
Reply@I’m on the bidet:
OMG. Too funny! Thanks, you made my night!
ReplyHi this is the first time I’ve posted here but have been watching for a while.. these are some seriously damaging and defamatory comments, if they had no merit wouldn’t AJ & BP have sued by now? thats the only thing that makes me believe there is some truth to it. wonder where Kate and Keane are? hope everyone is well
Reply@p:
If I would venture a guess, the whole Long Island supermarket photo opp was probably a plea to Pitt from Jolie’s management or Sony (producing Salt, I think) to make things appear to be normal with her so that the movie doesn’t tank in light of all the bad press she has been receiving. Can anyone imagine if the MSM starts reporting that Jolie doesn’t have control of the children because she is out of control? Don’t want to offend and alienate the soccer moms. Studios can exert a LOT of pressure and even though Pitt might not be working with Sony now, Hollywood is a tangled web and pressure can be placed easily on actors.
Reply@p:Something may have been done in that the kids are now out of her reach, could be why we haven’t seen them. I’m thinking more along the lines of hard evidence such as video, not a “source”. AJ could be in a pretty pickle if she tried to sue for defamation and had to respond by deposition under oath. If she’s the one doing the suing it’s unlikely a Judge would limit what could be asked of her. We haven’t seen the entire family together since the Japan airport stroll.
ReplyOK, I’m back.
Nothing may have happened to the kids at this point. But I keep coming back to this:
An artist friend of actress Angelina Jolie told IUC tonight that around a year ago Jolie said “don’t you think I’d make beautiful babies with them”.
WHO SAYS STUFF LIKE THAT??
First of all, they are little children. A normal person wouldn’t even be CONSIDERING the fact that those beings will one day procreate, let alone wondering about the genetic soup YOU could concoct with them.
The other scary question is how old will those kids be while Scrange is still of childbearing age… I’m going to go with ‘they’ll be barely in their teens’.
Seriously, who says stuff like that, even as a joke? The mere fact that her brain went there shows some seriously mental illness.
Reply@BigApplette: . I called CPS once and it’s completely confidential, NO ONE knew it was me, it’s not tricky, they move right on it. If all these ppl know something, even about drug abuse they can come forward in anonimity. I wasn’t talking about the abusers themselves. If they don’t they either don’t really know about the situation, or just want to talk dirty stuff to get attention and aren’t reliable. A friend who would talk dirty details would hardly let loyalty get in the way of blowing the whistle for the sake of the children. And like I said, the Examiner site is still up, you believe all those stories too?
Reply@BigApplette: . Yea we assumed that’s what it was. But even if the direction of the story is true, and they are not a couple, but only pretending to be, that still doesn’t address the larger problem with these “sources,” who happily rat out sexually deviant behavior but won’t call the cops. Sorry that’s a discrepency that won’t go away. I’ve heard the justifications for it. Uh uh. Don’t add up, but you can bet the stories will.
Reply@p:That’s why I’m thinking something has already been done and now the stories are leaking out, perhaps to insure that AJ does not get custody – or if she does that the general public will be watching her like a hawk. A Judge can forbid either party from pimping the children out for photo ops.
Replybb14. Talking about these kids with Ange. Where the hell is Brad has he gone??
Reply@Different Guest: . Well the judge better hurry if that’s the case bc in addition to the supermarket pics there’s also the ones with Pitt at Niagra Falls and the airport, with the folks. His twitter page indicates Salt will be ending soon and mommy will be back (pesumably home full-time in whatever residence they’re in at the moment I guess). Tho on a local news show residence reported sitings of Pitt and Jolie in local venues on LI.
Reply@I’m on the bidet:
ReplyI agree!
Mornin’ all, @ Donna, I don’t know you, but a big hug and sisterly kiss for your courage and bravery in discussing your personal history. My heart goes out to you, I myself am a surviver of molestation as a child, I am also a mama,and I also have a child that was molested by a family member.
ReplyI agree that this subject matter is distrubing, but discussing it and bringing it to light may in fact make people take notice that this is real and that innocents could be in dnager.
As for AJ and her kids, are we really that surprised at the new post? I am not, but that does not make me jaded or a cynic, my heart goes out to any child that would have to live in that situation, and sadly at their age with a mum who is into incest, their are really too young to know any different and that’s the danger. She is instilling in them , what she herself IMO went through as a child. Unless, something is done immediately, what we are looking at, with these kids is history repeating itself. As for CPS, a call can be made anoymonously, it must be valid with details, and it may take some time for an investagation, but by law every complaint must be investigated, believe it or not, you can thank states like Indiana and Florida , for this to be so. There was a huge scandel here several years ago, that a family with several foster kids in Indy, were to be checked on by their case worker from DFC, this caseworker lied and did not do their job, one of the kids was beaten and basically starved, and from that, DFC and CPS has stepped up their game. Unfortunately , the system here is not perfect , but the more people call , write, the newspapers,blog, their congressman, etc., this can be overcome. All children, need help, even those of the rich and famous.
Like I posted earlier. “the sins of the father will pass on to the son”, I believe that this covers mothers as well.
Ian , SR, please tell us if you have any idea, if we are going to get a bad ass, that is finally going to call AJ’s antics out loud and clear, and if she is facing any legal rammifications, arrest , jail, please, please tell me that this gorgon , is not going to get away with her sickness that she is spreading much longer.
After reading this, I feel very sick. She is grooming her children to be IMO, if true, rapists, druggies, child molesters, socipaths, pathological liars, adulterers, the list goes on.
As for the Scriptutes and incest , whoever posted that , yes it is true , but it also states that incest is condemmed and I believe it is the book of Deutoratmay that lists the relationships that are forbidden. Lot and his daughters are one example, he was passed out drunk and his daughters thought they were the only people on earth after the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah, there is also a story of rape between a brother and sister, Amnon raped his half-sister Tamar.
Anyway, I am glad to know that I am among peeps that are not just into bashing AJ , but do have a care for her babes, and from what I can tell, about each other too. Take care all.
@backalleyknees:Satan’’s greatest deception wasn’t convincing the world that he didn’t exist, it was convincing the world that he was a beautiful, admirable, child-loving ‘Angel’ humanitarian. She is the opposite, she is the anti-christ.
I have another insight I would like to share and people can perceive this the way they would like. Does anyone wonder why she was trying so hard to get onto the movie “Salt”? She gets sent tons of scripts, this was written for Tom Cruise innitially, but she wanted it. She went to great lengths to get it and would let nothing get in her way of getting it. Does anyone wonder why she was so passionate about it?
The title ‘Salt’ was intended to be a message to JA. There has been a war between AJ and JA in the press, and AJ always knew she was losing the battle (with good reason – husband stealing, brother kissing sociopath for starters). All of the bad PR whoring she did to make JA look bad, all the times she literally rubbed it in her face, and JA handled it so well. JA didn’t do much to retailiate, but AJ kept it coming, kept digging the knife in.
Well, this “Salt” was intended to be another ‘dig’, probably payback for the ‘uncool’ comment. Some more salt for JA’s wound. The plot of the movie – a spy who was wrongly framed trying to clear their name and at the end…victory and redemption. Just another way for AJ to stick it to JA.
For those of you who may think it’s far fetched, believe me…the lengths she has gone to to destroy, mame, intimidate, bully those she feels is a target, have been much worse.
Reply@p:
ReplyIn the case of my friend, obviously she knew SOMEONE called CPS because a report was filed and they came to her house. She was always trying to find out who and was generally pissed off about it. We, as her friends, didn’t care that she was angry. We just didn’t want something horrible happening to her baby or her. What I was trying to say is that it is not necessarily an easy call to make on a friend. In Jolie’s case, she does wield power and influence so there might be a fear factor.
Hold On!! Lets try to rein in the hysteria re calling child services and be smart about it. Keep in mind the “friend” did not say she has molested her children YET, massages, and kisses are not molestation, ummmmmm it might be on the edge but it appears however that it hasn’t happened YET. So if anyone were to call DCS it would have to be in fear that something MIGHT happen but is not clear if its happened yet, just that there might be a danger. On the flip side, Britney Spears had them called on her for driving with her son on her lap!!!
IAN = what do you think about this? Should someone report them? And because of their fame would the DCS really investigate? Please address the board ASAP in order to curb the hysteria this post has rightfully created. Thanks!!
Reply@backalleyknees:
ReplyHiya, just to let you know, that quote, was from the movie “The Usual Suspects”, it was a line from Kevin Spacey’s charecter { Verbal/Keyser Söze} , great film. Just watched it the other day, I’m a huge film buff, that’s why it caught my eye.
Here’s the quote.
“Verbal: Who is Keyser Soze? He is supposed to be Turkish. Some say his father was German. Nobody believed he was real. Nobody ever saw him or knew anybody that ever worked directly for him, but to hear Kobayashi tell it, anybody could have worked for Soze. You never knew. That was his power. The greatest trick the Devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn’t exist. And like that, poof. He’s gone.” -The Usual Suspects.
@BigApplette:Did you have to give a lot of first hand knowledge evidence etc or did they accept an anonymous call based on conjecture? I hate to say it but I imagine the DCS would need some hard facts before the went after the JP’s.
Reply@Caribsmom:
Hiya Hon, CPS will not investagate just any call, I understand your concern, they will ask for specific details, times, people , your relation to the person, how you know, etc. I am sorry if I posted anyting that made it seem that all it takes is a phone call, yes and no. These people are trained to know what to look for and ask for. Just wanted to let you know. If this is all true, the truth will come out, her money and fame cannot protect her forever, with that much power and control, comes with powerful enemies.
Reply“Absolute power corrupts absolutely”. She will get hers in the end, I really do believe it, the rose colored glasses are coming off, JMO.
@Mama San:Hello Mama and good morning to you!! Yes, ITA with your post. Maybe Ian will answer my question. Im afraid this post just confirms the Brady Bunch post and its just too YUCK! Makes me pissed off at BP for staying with her for so long knowing what kind of degenerate psycho she is gggggrrrrrrrr!!!! I dont care what he does now, rehab, custody battles etc it will not make him clean now or ever again. I am really PO’d today over this, seriously I feel my blood pressure rising at the sheer audacity of those people thinking they are above not only the law but God and can do whatever they want. Again, who are they? They are ACTORS nothing more for eff’s sake!!!
Reply@anna:
@Mama San:
What are you going to say the CPS? A man who claims to be a ‘journalist’ made up some disgusting and vile lies to get hits on his crappy website and I want to spend American tax payers money investigating this invented filth. Um hello? Nannies look after the kids most of the time.. Brad’s parents are living there right now, Jane would never allow anything of this nature to occur. Also, think of all the other lies posted here. This brings to mind the source that said: “I wouldn’t be surprised if she had a baby with her brother”
Basically Ian is rubbing his hands with glee at how gullible you all are and how you hungrily lap up his lies.
If he’s going to fabricate stories, then fine but this sort of topic is just one step too far. I would like if he revisited his past stories which never came to anything and gave updates… Anyone know when they got secretly married yet? Which country? Anyone know if Billy Bob is adopting Maddox? And what about these women Brad has got pregnant?
Ian’s getting tangled up in a web of lies of his own making..
Reply@Ian’s Done:
ReplyYour’re a comedian right?
But I don’t think that the kids’ dignity should be sacrificed in the meantime.
She already sacrificed her kids dignity herself. Half naked media pictures, no friends, no schooling, thinks its funny when they fight, etc.
Reply@Ian’s Done:
GET A LIFE ! She’s an effing bad actress with mental health issues.
Reply@Going way too far:
Whoah, “Hold up wait a minute ,like me stick my bass in it”, I did not post I was gonna call CPS, WTF ????
Please for the love of all that is sacred and holy above . Read it through before posting at me.
I am sick of people making ASSumptions, without reading the fine print.
Where in MY post did I state I was gonna call CPS, WHERE, WHERE, WHERE??? Alright then, nuff said.
@Caribsmom:
ReplyHiya hon, ITA with you too, this is sick and sad. On the lines of CPS, I don’t know if anything at all can be done. It has to be someone with first hand knowledge of BP and AJ, {NOT ME, as I posted ,someone in their camp, thank you very much, so there is no mistaken as to what I post} CPS does not take these calls lightly, but they will ask a series of questions to verify information.
“Going way to far”, maybe you misunderstood my post, I worked in a social service type service{ a homeless shelter and a domestic abuse shelter for women and children}, and part of my job was to report any abuse or neglect from the residents to their kids where I worked, so I do know , the in’s and out’s of these services, now would I use them, yes I have, was it on a celebrity, no DUH ,was it on a regular joe that was abusing their kids, yes. Did they ask me specific questions relating to the abuse , yes, times and places , yes, did they ask me to physically decribe the assailent and the victims yes, it’s part of it, as a matter of fact, my reporting of any abuse better have had been true, and documented or I was subject to termination of my job, and posssible prosecution for making a false report, so calling CPS can lead to criminal charges and procesution if someone just made a call to be a dick,{ custody cases , especially, abuse this services with false allegations against one spouse to another} and yes they will prosecute, I seen it happen. Then the person can be sued in civil court for defamation, etc.
Anyway, I do hope that this mess, between AJ , BP and the kids is cleared up soon. As always JMO.
@Ian’s Done:
ReplyOh brother. Here we go with the Jolie narcissistic grandiosity. Guess what: Jolie is an ACTRESS who never finished high school. She is not a dignitary. She has a title that is given to many actors that is basically fluff. OK? Did you ever wonder why you never saw Jolie traveling with a Secret Service motorcade? That is why.
@Caribsmom:
ReplyIn the case of my friend, it was such an extreme case that CPS was directed to the information from the police and courts of the physical abuse that my friend had suffered at the hands of this “person” before the baby had been born. He actually used a nail gun and barricaded them both into the house so the police couldn’t get in. Pretty much a no-brainer for CPS.
@Ian’s Done:
ReplyGet real. I know a REAL U.N. Ambassador, you know, the kind who actually do something useful rather than self-serving photo-ops, and that person’s safety didn’t fall under the US Secret Service by any stretch of the imagination. In fact, on the occasions that this person needed security, it was provided by the UN. The only thing the secret service does with the UN is bug the foreign ones so they can coerce them. Or was that the CIA?
@Canuck:
ReplyHey wasn’t there a rumor that some were complaining about AJ and her special protection detail, that she was abusing it for photo-op’s, what was the last trip she went on for the UN that allegedly was not sanctioned? It was the trip she made when she was pregnant with the twins. I’ll have to look for it, but I remember there was a stink about it.
@Mama San:Take a deep breath! Don’t worry we all know what you are saying, this is an explosive topic and of course the pro-freaks are gonna lash out at something like this. Especially because the post wasn’t coded it was straight up, leaving no room for speculation. And BTW, I WOULD be the first person to call DCS if I had first hand knowledge of anything untoward in the JP household. Again with Britney but she was called out on things like not having a regular schedule, meals, bed time etc., not having the pool fenced in that kind of thing, so it doesn’t take much for an investigation into the parents failure to care for their kids, but it DOES take real facts and evidence which I do not have, but if I did you BETCHA I would call them. If this “friend” has real knowledge it would be criminal of her/him not to report them, its just a moral responsibility. That’s why I asked Ian to give us some feedback. On my way out the door, will catch up with you later! xoxoxox
Reply@well:
So what does Jen’s latest movie “The Baster” say back to her? You swapped your bro’s sperm for Brad’s and I know it?
Anyways, if she chose Salt for that, it rather fell flat since BP appears to have left her before it started filming. So maybe the joke is on her this time.
I think that Jen knew at the Oscars that Brangie was kaput and that AJ knew that she and Brad had been talking and that’s why she chose to present. Doing a little nose rubbing herself, and that little smile must have really pissed AJ off. Jen probably has a good inkling of what is in store for AJ once she is no longer protected by brand “Brangie” too. Karma is about to rear it’s ugly head.
ReplyThank you Ian! You have cleared it up completely for me. I appreciate your honest reporting and hope you do not get into trouble because of it. Has this friend reported his/her fears to authorities? Thanks again.
Reply@Canuck:
I may have the two trips confused? I found this,
http://blogs.tampabay.com/juice/2009/02/thai-official-t.html
Reply@Mama San:
The last one she made was to Thailand, where she visited a Burmese refugee camp, and then made a statement about another ethnic Burmese minority who are basically “boat people”. Not recognized in Burma as Burmese, not allowed to land in Thailand. She rebuked the Thai government over that last. Nothing was said about the Burmese junta who is creating all of these refugees of course.
I didn’t see anything about a security detail, the problems concerning that were Mickey Brett, her bodyguard who assaulted people in several countries (India, Namibia and elsewhere) while “protecting” her. That is the only security problems I’ve heard about, but I may have missed others of course.
Replynot surprised by this post. i think a few years ago her kissing and announcing to the world she was so in love w/ her brother right now was her testing the boundaries. it didn’t go as she planned.
i briefly worked at a restaurant with a woman who was involved w/ her dad. she was 20, drop dead gorgeous (had done some modeling), but she did have that crazy-eyes look a bit. the few times he stopped in, they devoured each other with their eyes. she said “damn my dad is hot.” i was 18 and in shock x100. they had romantic dinners together and “dated.” swear. as far as i know, she has never married and still lives with her dad.
i have worked in the restaurant, bar, music industry for a long time and nothing surprises me any more. i also know a woman who drunkenly admitted to having oral sexy times with her pooch.
TMI? maybe… but when it comes to stories about AJ that sound like stuff I have heard in my own limited world experience, i say why not.
Big difference is, neither of these women has ever had or adopted children.
JMO IMO
Reply@DonnaInMichigan:
ReplyDear Donna: Your post was beautiful. It made me cry. I agree with everything you have said and I cant even find the words to describe my admiration for you! Thank you for your honesty and your strength – you are courage personified.
To Donna and Mama: I am sorry to hear about your suffering. I applaud you for bringing this issue to light that is more common than people want to believe. You both appear to have fought hard to overcome, which is dfficult.
ReplyJust think of those who have been abused. There are constant reminders. Just look at the stories of the deviant behavior that takes place in HW and the real world that we have uncovered while on this site. How do you think Mama and Donna and others feel when they turn the tv on and a crime show is on depicting a molestation story or they look in the paper and read the vile stories of what happens to children or look at the covers of mags at the grocery store to see sex slave stories uncovered. Now that they are older, don’t you think they would have liked someone to step in and save them from that horror?
I realize this is disgusting and I have not wanted to post. However, let’s look at different psychology studies. For instance, a woman was raped and brutally beaten by a man. Several people heard it happen from their homes, but no one called for help. They just stood by because they believed someone else was going to call the police. Maybe this is the case with this if true. No one really wants to step forward, maybe for numerous reasons, so maybe these sources, if real, are assuming that someone else will do it. okay just a thought. I am done. Oh, and I am not an expert. Psychology was part of my major and I myself have spent much time with psychiatrists and psychologists and pain clinic therapists for personal reasons. I also at one point in my childhood was told by my friend that her father touched her inappropriately. She begged me not to tell. I was 10. I convinced her to let me inform my mother. She agreed. Father went to jail. Her mother hated me gave me dirty looks ten years later. People knew, but no one said anything. sorry for the rant. meds kicking in.
@Canuck:you’re right. When she signed on to do “Salt” she was with him, the break up began happening and she tried to get out of her commitment. She’s very very paranoid, and this is going to leave a mark. This is now HER salt on HER wound, not Jen’s. This karma is going to bite more than her ass…I wonder if she won’t end up committted, or worse.
Reply@ladybert62:
ReplyI second that – reduced me to tears. Bravo Donna for opening up.
forgot to add: i am 99% sure that some important folks in HW know some of this and 99% sure that someone who knows those kids or has cared for them has already called CPS. i would guess there is an investigation underway. maybe that is why Mickey’s book in on hold.
JMO IMO
Reply@Mama San:
ReplyMama San: Thank you for your honesty. Between you and DonnaInMichigan: I am starting my day out crying and with mascara all over my face. You are both courageous and so honest. My heart goes out to both of you.
@Caribsmom:
ReplyI’m with ya on that babe, Fur’ sur’.
I’ve been on the back end of someone calling and making a false report on me, to CPS i.e. ex husband, so I do know what both ends can feel like. I had to make a report on a neighbor once and it broke my heart , she was a victim of sexual and physical abuse at the hands of her pedophile { fact, he is a registered sex offender} boyfriend, {believe me, I couldn’t make this shit up} Anyway, she came to me one night bruised , and crying, wanting to get out, and also wanting to kill herself. I asked her point blank is your child in danger , she said yes and no, would not be specific, I tried to get her help, go to a shelter, file a restraining order, the works, everything, if not for her , her SON, I begged her for her son’s sake to get out, before he learns to do and be the same. She refused, her choice, but I told her that if I saw anything f*cked up I was going to call her out, that she just could not tell me what she did and expect me to shut up , with kids involved. I do understand the mentality of battered women , I was one, and their excuses for not getting out, are common. Because there were other things in play, I was on alert. It just so happened that she invited me over a few times to keep her company and talk, her house, dear lord was beyond a sty, roaches and filth everywhere. I swear I had to fight a roach over my slice of pizza I had over there and had ENOUGH. I told her to bomb her house , I would never step foot in her house again, until she did so, it was beyond , real nasty. Literally , her home had roaches on the freakin’ ceiling . This was the last straw as to why I called CPS, on her. Her son loved to play with my kids, a real nice boy, he was a little guy, anyway, one day he comes over and wants to play with my kids. Because I would not let my kids go over there. My little girl answers the door, it was ,I’ll call him Tom, Tom ’s there and wants Ren to play. She’s says to him, EWWW I”m not playing at your house you got roaches”, Tom {bless his heart}, says to my kid,” No , they won’t bother you, their just my friends”. I was right there when he said it, I about died, I didn’t know to laugh or cry, seriously. So I let the kid in, and guess what falls off his back when he came in to play, a flippin’ roach that was hitching a ride on his back pack. I hate roaches , you have no idea, cases on record that they can crawl into your ears at night and nest. ICK! I just threw up.
Sorry I digress.
Later that night , I made the call, not to be a bitch, or to screw over my friend, {she was no friend,} IMO she was not looking out for her kid, it’s more fucked up than that, she was actually looking for a bed-mate for her and her ol’ man, that was her main concern by involving me, she was looking for a way to appease her man, so he would not beat her anymore,he was using her to get him some 3-way action.
She thought that I could help, WTF ever man, people are strange, anyway, I called for Tom, he did not deserve to have to live in filth, or be subjected to mom and dad’s twisted sex and druggie life, he did not need to be there while mom, was getting her face smashed in, and he certainly didn’t need to be taught that beating women was okay. The fact that his mom was more concerned about her own ass, and refused to get out for her boy’s sake, to live in a clean home, safe and sound was why I called. I moved away after that call, and do not know what happened to her or her son. I still thinks she lives with her ol’ man and nothing is going to change, it’s a real shame. He was a smart , nice kid, and he deserved better, I wished I could have done more, for both of them.
Regardless,children have a right to a clean, stable, nuturing , loving and safe home, no matter who their parents are.
@well:
ReplySo long as she doesn’t take the kids with her. I sincerely hope that Brad has them out of harm’s way.
@Astro:
ReplyITA–Don’t trust any of them. But this article included was sort of built around what we’ve already learned from Ian’s sources. Shows two things: first, a broken clock is right twice a day, so there could be something to the details. Second: the story is picking up some traction.
@p:
I see what your saying p. But, I really really don’t think these kids are being harmed. I don’t believe Jolie is planning on molesting them as they grow . My point is the stories are more extreme to the point where is either has to be BS which I would bet all I had that it is . Or the blogger wants to cause enough of a stir so that this site get’s some real exposure. Noone is saying Jolie is perfect . I don’t agree with her and Brad famewhoring the kids for money but, then they are not the only celebrities who utitlize this practice. That hardly constitutes accusations of proposed pedophilla and incest. I don’t believe in taking pics of the kiddies for profit I just don’t . I see enough celebrities who do this doesn’t make it right. So if this is the case they are are all unfit and need CPS called on them. I agree I think adoption would be rather hard for her in the states but, I never believed she wanted to adopt here anyway. I believe she set out purposely to adopt overseas. Now there are alot of folks who may have done drugs, suffered with depression in thier past. That is not who they are today . There is really no proof of anything other than what Ian sources spew out plus the blind items. That’s not enough to label someone and demonize someone even Angelina Jolie as all she stands accused of . Brad Pitt bears accountability too and I don’t believe he’s linking these things, or would allow any of this to take place. I believe if anything these kids are well cared for. If they started linking pics of the kids playing with other kids etc.. Then it would be outrage because they leaked pics of the kids just being kids.
Seldom do I see other celeb kids at that age out and about with friends or on play dates. I don’t care too and I’m not looking for them. I don’t see new pics Brangelina every day either. I think things have been grossly exaggerated. I agree very distrubing and all needs to come out . But, if that means by just accusations of neglect and so much worse by a source that would avoid the kids well being yet go to a blogger on the internet to spill a story . Then I will pass . In my opinion only a total moron or troll would look at pics and come to the worst conclusions because they hate Angelina Jolie. I am not saying that’s what’s being done here I think alot of folks are concerned . Okay so a reporter from the times called her out on manipulating the media that means she’s a bad mother ? I agree she does manipulate the press very very well. So does Brad Pitt . Many other celebrities do it too. But, Brangelina is an expert and could easily write a ” famewhorin for dummies ” book . I don’t know P… I call BS on the story .
To all- I can’t stand to see any kid hurt . But, don’t you think that’s the purpose of these stories that have gotten more extreme in weeks ? To pull at your heart strings, vulnerability , and sheer hatred for Angelina Jolie ? Creating a frenzy of sorts enough to get exposure. Enough to get mentions in mainstream siting allegations of molestions, neglect ,incest and so many other bizarre things .All I’m saying is that at all possible ? Is it possible some of the post and conclusions made are just prey to lure in a very very big fish . I don’t think Angelina or Brad or even close to perfect parents. They seem to have that HW ” I love NANNIES” vibe but, this is way over the top. Anyone who is truly concerned for the kids. I urge you to make calls to CPS right now . Call them.. What will you report ? That you heard it on a gossip site that Angelina’s kids will be harmed by her when they are older ? Coz she’s has evil vile whore, who manipulates everyone and fucked dogs, and MJ ? Well you report to CPS that Sugar Ray alleged these things in blind items and you and others came to conclusions based off riddles and bat shit crazy assertions ? Then make that call these kids are being abused right ? Their pics are being taken. their mother can’t stop boinking Dominican pinga , gave her brother a very questionable kiss in 2000, wore vials of blood with her second husband ,is an extreme famewhore who stole sperm to get pregnant and trap Brad Pitt . Jokes aside.. It’s very cut and dry if you believe in you heart the kids are being abused there no sense in posting numbers and suggesting other call CPS you make that call today yourself. The kid’s well being is dependent on it right ? The Brangelina security teams, the many full time nannies, family and friends ,paps , PR and management folks, neighbors, hotel staff, other employee etc.. have not called on them yet.. So you be brave and make that call today . If you can’t make that call then it’s it fair then to say you shouldn’t really speculate that such a distrubing thing is going on and allow yourself to be taken in by someone who continues to post BS on a daily . Nothing usually happens to validate these stories that Ian writes or SR blogs about. You don’t see any breaking news in the press.. Regarding his blog . I of late have seen the blog referenced in other gossip blogs that’s about it and I believe a few tabs that’s I don’t read may have pick up and referenced the Jen Anniston gay story. I like most of you got tired of hearing how perfect Brangelina was on a daily and how they court so much press. But, its sites like this that keep the machine going . Whether your slamming or praising them they still make bucks , your contributing to the one thing you loathe so much . Because their names generate buzz . Buzz is always good in HW. But, this is over the top . I really don’t belive the kids are being harmed but, that’s just me. I spose .So is Ian contacting CPS ? Over his concerns ? The many things Sugar alleges in his blind items will he call ?
ReplyOk well in the UK reports of parents making this type of comment and engaging in behaviour with children which may be seen as suspect would certainly warrant investigation by social services. The children may be put on something called the “at risk” register but would continue to live with their parents. They and their parents or adults who have access to them woulc continue to be monitored however. This has been a major issue in the UK recently due to the death of a boy named Peter whose welfare was being monitored by social services. Some major mistakes were made by social workers who weren’t properly trained and were overloaded with work and by managers who weren’t supervising them properly. The boy was being abused (physically) by the mother’s boyfriend who lived with them (a fact that she had managed to keep secret from SS). His body was covered with bruises which she covered with chocolate or ice cream when social workers visited. He was admitted to hospital several times and the docors who examined him all failed to detect the abuse. His mother and boyfriend are now serving life sentences for murder (her’s may be failing to prevent murder/manslaughter) and the man has recently also been convicted of raping a 2 year old girl.
So in the UK suggestions of things like this are always investigated and social services called in. Is this not the case in the states? Ian, has anything been done about this? If this is true then it must be reported.
Reply@justhelping:
Reply@ladybert62:
You guys are great, I’m a little teary too, It breaks my heart, you know on some level it does for me in regards to AJ, I do feel for her, on the level that there was a day in her life, someone should have been looking out for her, protecting her, nuturing her, accepting her as the blessing ,we all are at birth no matter what the circumstances of our birth is , we are all equal in birth and death.
Believe or not, what happened to me in my life made me a better person, and mother, I learned empathy compassion, forgiveness, and goodwill , if that makes any sense to anyone. I got my faith, and my life. It’s all good, and I that note, my hubby, baby and me, are going morel hunting. Love ya’ll have a great day, BBL.
Thanks again Ian for this post, peace out peeps.
@HisHighness:
ReplyI’m with you all on that. Donna I admire your courage for being willing to make that admission because you are not only a survivor you are a source of strength for others.
@Nicole:
MamaSan -Goodmorning , I watched that Roman Polanski documentary . Very interesting. Was it just me or was the background music and typing creepy as hell. . It’s like she’s be harrassed and painted like you said as some “Lolita”. One of the police believed Roman didn’t believe what he did was wrong. Well then why did he try and drug her first ? I was sicked and angered . Sad what happened to Sharon Tate too. Was that his lawyer who was saying ” he hasn’t been right since her death ” ? I love documentaries. I watched one not long ago on HBO about, China and the one baby rule.
Reply@Nicole:
“If you can’t make that call then it’s it fair then to say you shouldn’t really speculate that such a distrubing thing is going on”
Sure. And if you can’t prove your husband/wife is cheating on you, even though you suspect it strongly because all the signs are there, you should really just put it from your mind, it’s all in your imagination just like he/she says. Uh huh…
Reply@HisHighness:
ReplyHow can you say stuff like this without being sued?
I am wondering, since we’ve heard that AJ monitors this site, if some of Ian’s sources (such as this artist friend) are using this to get messages to AJ such as “clean up your act or I will report you to the authorities”?
Reply@too curious:
Replywhere is that edit button? … are using this SITE to get messages…
Shouldn’t you be in bed so you can get up early for school tomorrow? ;o) @Ian’s Done:
Reply@Canuck:
First off if you believe your husband is cheating most women get or find proof . Sometimes the proof comes to them. You can find out if your husband is cheating. Trust and believe you can. If he’s not cheating and your always believing he is then maybe the problem lies within your own insecurites. But, since you have this intense feeling the kids are being abused. Why not call the CPS hotline is all I’m saying. I am not here to say your wrong in what your feeling. But, rather taken action then. CPS will investigate what your stating. They have to .. They can’t discredit because it’s Angelina Jolie and Brad Pitt. Gloria Trevi and her manager got busted for raping and keeping girls prisoner. So it’s not out of the realm to say CPS would at least attempt to investigate at some length to insure the kids are okay . Even if they call pure BS they take an oath to upheld the law and protect children .
Reply@Nicole:
ReplyHiya peep, I got to be real quick ,I’ll be back later. It’s on again later this week, I’m watching it again. Believe it or not it was the judge on the case that screwed up, and the press and others. The victim was villified and RP is a national hero in France -go figure. He should have gotten prison time all he got was probation and he was to be pyschologically evaluated at Chino state prison, before final sentencing, he served only 42 days, {correct me if I’m wrong}, he never finished the sentence, fled the country, so now he is in fact a fugitive, an outlaw. He was allowed during that time to go to Europe to finish up a film, in Germany he was photographed with some young girls, and it got back to the judge that RP was mocking him, and the judge orderd him back to finish out Chino, hence the reason why he bolted, him {RP} and his attorney were to meet in court to discuss further ,RP finishing his time ,and to impose a stronger sentence on RP,it was before that hearing, he ran. Not a great summary , I try.
The whole case was a mess, and yes IDA he did not seem the least bit remorseful of his actions. He did in fact plea to having consensual sex with a minor, he did in fact plea to raping , sodomizing, her as well. Sorry about the spelling. I’ll post at ya later tonight to discuss.
Have a great day.
@ Canuck – there’s not too much point wasting your time communicating with Nicole. She’s a child and just will not get a thing you say. Don’t waste valuable minutes of your life as I have.
ReplyJust a link to a slightly more detailed report about Angelina in a bit of a state on set, due to Brad & jen being back in contact. Could this be a leak from JA or BP?
Naturally, one should take everything said about ANY of these three, with a grain of…ummm…Salt!
http://www.nowmagazine.co.uk/celebrity-news/340959/jennifer-aniston-s-secret-dates-with-brad-pitt/1/
Reply@Mama San:
ReplyWith both pleas, due to the judge screwing up ,RP was only convicted of having consenual sex with a 13 year old {minor}. A conviction of this sort consenual or not , carries prison time, in which he did not get. Can’t be too mad, the man had a great lawyer, and the judge was an idiot. Money and fame go a long way in getting people out of trouble.
@rotorua:
ReplySaw this too,
http://www.nowmagazine.co.uk/celebrity-news/340336/brad-pitt-takes-the-kids-away-from-angelina-jolie/1/
Ok I’m done, off to find some magic mushrooms, JK, I mean morels.
….keep…getting …sucked …in…, gotta go, have a nice day all.
@Nicole:
ReplyWhether or not you’re a child as Keane stated, I agree with your points. Thanks for stating what some of us are afraid to post for fear of being lashed out at as a loonie…
@Mama San:
ReplyThanks Mama! I’ve seen that one, too. Wonder if it’s there’s any truth to them- though the fairytale does appear to be unravelling.. Off to bed for me- it’s very late here!
@ Mama San – exactly, parents in the UK are reported to social services if they look dirty and look like they are being neglected, and SS does investigate their home conditions and monitor what is going on. It is often a sign of much worse neglect or abuse going on behind closed doors. Another recent high profle case in the UK was about a girl called Shannon Matthews whose mother arranged for her to be “kidnapped” by a relative or friend (can’t remember which), then went to the police saying she was missing and launched a massive media appeal and fund to find her. She called the people that ran the Madeleine McCann fund and asked if she could have some money from them. Her and the man who kidnapped her were planning to claim the £50,000 reward money offered by a newspaper to find her and then leave the country or something. But the police found her and the mother is now in prison. Her live-in boyfriend was convicted of having child pornorgraphy on his computer. It was found that he mother may also have been drugging Shannon and her 5 other children. People afterwards came forward to say that they were concerned about Shannon as she always looked dirty and underfed. She was on Social Services’ radar. So what I am saying is these seemingly less significant concerns are often signs of much worse things that are going on behind closed doors. I’m very concerned about all this with regard to these children, is there more you can tell us? Is this being investigated by anyone? How do we know they’re safe in the light of this story?
Reply@ CC – I wasn’t talking specifically about things Nicole has said here as I don’t read her posts, rather what she has said and the way she has behaved on other posts/threads. I was just warning Canuck that no matter what you say to her to explain yourself she will not understand it so there isn’t a great deal of point in getting invoved.
ReplyClassic Brangaloonie – Saint Angelina protector comment. Yawn@Ian’s Done:
Reply@Keane:
ReplyOh dear, how very sad. I’m still here for a bit, hubby’s taking a dump, ha ha, don’t no one tell him , I said so.
It seems that the UK has similar rules for engagement when it comes to abuse. Right on, and for the few cases that aren’t substantiated, I still agree with the system. My dirty no-good ex, tried to make a false call, not a problem , it actually worked in my favor, with the court, so as always , I would rather err on the side of caution when it comes to kids than not. It could be the one time that someone does not step up and make a call, as in the story you posted that a kid gets it even worse or even dies.
Ok on that note, I go to go, hubby’s done dumping, off to the woods for the day.
That reminds me, When a bear shits in the woods does he use a fluffy white rabbit to wipe off his ass,?LOL, I kill me. Few more to lighten the mood,
Is a frog’s ass water tight?
Does a one-legged duck swim in circles?
What do you call a cow with no legs ? Ground beef.
Why didn’t the chicken cross the road?…{I made this one up feel free to use it}….
Ready…. because he was chicken.
Last one, How do you get a one-armed monkey out of the tree?…. You wave.
Post at ya’ll later, AND THIS TIME I MEAN IT, lol.
Good day all.
@Keane:
I understood everything Canuck stated Keane. Your stiring the pot early today ? I have posted with Canuck in the past . I am posting my opinion LIKE everyone else. I am not a child and nor have I behaved like one. But, your borderline harrassment of me lately is growing tiresome. You don’t have to agree with my post just skim over them. Some decorum please. There’s no reason for you to start off trolling me early in the am Keane. I posted my distate for you early on .. I stand by that. I don’t post to you since then but, you seem intent on dragging this out in every thread since. Please stop.. I am serious it’s not becoming of you. What your hoping to do is what you did yesterday get a bunch of other posters to participate . I enjoy posting to P,Angie’s fax machine, MEMEME, MamaSan, Kramer, ffluer,Kate ,Bettyboop and others . I don’t have to agree with what everyone states. I am can be respectful and I like intelligent debate. I can learn from other posters too .
Now why don’t you let Canuck make of he or she own mind. If they don’t like my post I can respect that. I won’t seek them out for conversation. You continously calling me a child, angie’s fake, your email hacker, a high schooler and so much more only proves what I stated early on . You can’t accept and respect other’s opinions. I knew you wouldn’t be able to stop posting about me I challenged you to that and here you are @ 10:57am ready to shit stir .
Still sticking to my opinion and I will continue to post . Now I am sorry for holding up the thread with my response back . I wont respond to it or Keane again in the thread. If anyone else post anything bashing me along with Keane I will ignore you because I will only accused of disrupting the thread later.
Ciao
Reply@rotorua:
ReplyAnytime peep.
There is a video in which Angelina is talking about her adoption of Maddox. In it she states ,” He’s made me a woman”, the interviewer then asks Angie, “Don’t you mean he’s made you a Mom?”, Angie replies, “No, he’s made me a woman” Now that’s sick@Sheriffe:
Reply@CC:
Your welcome. No.. I am not a child. I’m a grown women who should probably spell check her grammatical errors a lil more !! LOL I am glad I am not alone .
Reply@Mama San:
I love that movie! One of my all time faovrites. I should’ve cited it better last night. But with my eyes going fuzzy and my bed looking awesome, I took the easy route. I don’t know what you and Donna have ever been through, but I admire your strength and your ability to pick up and go on. I’m sorry there was no one there to protect you.
As upsetting as this thread is, I re-read it and though it is discussing AJ’s whacked out behavior, there wasn’t anything said about her doing anything specific. That doesn’t make it any better, and I hope BP’s parents have stepped in and removed the babies from her. and are trying to do something about it. I’m afraid if BP really is getting help and AJ is doing men/boys/movies/drugs etc, they are the only ones who can truly do something about this and her. JMO.
Reply@Keane:
ReplyI live in America, but read British papers pretty frequently. Baby P made me cry at my desk at work. That whole situation still makes me so upset. And the fact that the “dad” (I put that into quotation marks b/c he was no father, he was a sperm donor and a sadist) has also raped a 2yr old. I would’ve loved Peter. I would’ve taken good care of him. How they did that to him makes me so sad. He was a beautiful baby. I truly do hope he is flying through the clouds and finally found some semblance of happiness.
I don’t believe this at all. In fact, I think it’s ridiculous. How could anyone believe this? Sorry.
I think when AJ said her son made her a woman, I think she meant she went from nihilistic punk rocker bad girl to a responsible woman who looked at life through more mature and centered eyes. She also said when she felt bad about something she couldn’t just go out and get drunk because she had to think of her son. Woman = centered, responsible person to her. That’s my interpretation anyway. You ppl don’t actually think she wants to get with her kids, do you? Wow. It’s like those of you who do so desperately want her to be a freaky, destructive shiva whore. I don’t think she’s quite that bad but, like you, I really don’t know. I have a pretty good bs meter though and it’s going off right now.
Replyhere is the “Outspoken Angelina Jolie” youtube where AJ comments on Maddox making her a woman. interesting comment coming from someone who has had 2 husbands by this point (so she didn’t feel like a woman w/ her husbands?). 3:20 is where she talks about Maddox, but i recommend watching from the start for full effect. Also, you can see the before/after noses. JMO IMO
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mZtRhF8YukA
ReplyNo one has mentioned Pitt in all of this. Everyone is acting like his children are in danger, but it’s not his problem. That someone from the outside has to step in. It’s very strange he’s never been mentioned. Or maybe I missed it.
Reply@ Nicole – yet again your post has confirmed to me that you just don’t understand a word of what anyone says to you. You began by attacking me with the typically unintelligent line that “I am obsessed with AJ”. I responded by wasting a good half hour of my day writing you a very long, calm and reasonable explanation of my concerns with regard to that family and why I am posting here. I’m not sure whether you didn’t bother to read it or you completely ignored it but either way you obviously didn’t understand a word of what I said or took it on board. I was then discussing with you some things regarding Brange’s PR which you again misinterpreted and responded in a worked up way as if I was trying to attack you when I wasn’t. Then one day last week I woke up to find you had spent almost an entire thread delighting in slating me and deriding me and my career along with some fake posters when I wasn’t even there. This made me and many other posters very uncomfortable and several of them tried to stop it at the time but you just carried on happily abusing me in my absence. You then preceded to carry on yesterday as if nothing had happened and I would just continue to achknowledge you and converse with you as normal. I pointed out that that would not happen because of what you did which you interpreted as holding a grudge and shit stirring. Other posters then disagreed with you and you accused them of having a “mob mentality” which is precisely what you were taking great delight in doing against me the other day. But still you don’t seem to have the intelligence or maturity to understand a word of what I or anyone else has said. You change your position and argument at will whenever it suits you rather than simply taking on board what someone else has said and responding to it. Which obviously leads me to believe you are very unintelligent and immature. I have wasted valuable minutes of my life trying to explain this to you in a calm, reasonable way, but all you respond with are insults and hysteria. So forgive me if I advise someone who has been posting here much longer than you have and I am friends with that it is probably not worth engaging with you. Just try to mature in your responses to other people Nicole, that’s all I ask. I appreciate that I will not get anywhere with you though. And BTW it is late afternoon here (eyeroll).
Reply@Nicole:
ReplyYou are definitely NOT alone. I find your posts thoughtful and constructive. Dont be chased away!
@ ceegee –
I am actually just very concerned now about who is caring for these children, who has access to them and what could potentially happen to them. I have been concerned for their emotional well-being for some time now as the family situation and lifestyle they have is not a healthy one. The distress of Shiloh and the anger of Zahara at their most recent photo opportunity was truly upsetting. It was even worse to see a nanny in the background looking concerned and trying to calm them down. I have always been worried about Pax. We know from the people at the orphanage and AJ herself that he was distressed when taken away and was for a long time afterwards. When you’re adopted at 3 you have very difficult emotional development and bonding issues to overcome anyway, but when you’re adopted into a travelling circus how on earth can this child be expected to feel secure and stable. And now in the last few days we have suggestions of improper sexual behaviour with the children and now a post which directly alludes to it.
@ Ian
So I need to know, has this been reported, is it being investigated? How does the system work in the US? If it is not being investigated already and these children are not in a place of safety then I am perfectly willing to call the appropriate services today. I just need to know from Ian what is going on and what the correct course of action would be to take in the states. Is the system different from the UK? Ian could you answer some questions please regarding this.
Reply@ceegee:I think you missed it LOL he is most definitely accountable and no matter what he does now, rehab, custody battles etc will not exonerate him if any of this should come to light.
Reply@backalleyknees: Yes my point exactly. The “friend” has only said it could be a possiblity, he/she never actually said it has already occurred. But you know that saying “where theres smoke theres fire”, so one never knows what has happened or what might happen in future. Nothing would surprise me about her, she is one narcissistic pleasure craving psycho IMO
@ceegee
ReplyBefore all this started I was a Pitt fan. He is just as guilty as Jolie for these unhappy looking kids. Hopefully he is going to rehab and try to make a better life for them. Jolie also needs to get help.
@Keane:I agree Keane, I would most definitely call the DCS if I had first hand knowledge which of course I don’t. I hate to say it but I really believe they might be above the law, I really think DCS would need concrete evidence before they would investigate the JP;s. Their attorneys would be on them like white on rice before they’d let them within an inch of their home.
Reply@ Caribsmom – but you don’t need actual abuse to have occurred to involve social services, at least you don’t in the UK. If there is a possibility of abuse then children can be and are removed from the care of their parents. I ask you what mother would discuss making babies with her children? What kind of a sick, disturbing thought is that? And if she is actively involved in incestuous relationships herself, should she have young children in her care, particularly vulnerable adopted ones? If she is doing things like massages, taking baths with her kids and always kissing on the mouth then shouldn’t that behaviour be looked into to make sure there is nothing further going on? It most certainly would in the UK, I would be shocked if there wouldn’t be considered grounds for investigation in the US. Do you think that this is the case?
Reply@ Caribsmom – that is shocking though, nobody is above the law, no-one can use high-powered lawyers to prevent Social Services assessing the welfare of children in the UK. Wouldn’t the fact that this is being reported on this site by a source be enough to warrant investigation? Wouldn’t the source be forced to tell them what they know? I am shocked by the way celebs seem to be able to get away with things like this in the US. This should not happen.
Reply@Keane:
ReplyThe fact that she was allowed to buy three children should be looked into.
@joanne:
ReplyAgreed they both need help. But when they started dragging those children all around the world and never settling down, I blamed BP. He knew what that does to children because he had a stable childhood. AJ didn’t. He just didn’t have the balls to stand up to her. I lost all respect for him then.
@ joanne – are you a Brit hun, I think I remember you from Dlisted but I can’t remember where you were from? If you are, don’t you think this would be good cause for investigation? I am just stunned by what is coming out now and have been for the past few days. I thought the situation with that family was bad but I never really considered anything like this would be going on.
Replybeen wondering who this artist friend is who is the source. only one i can think of right off is marilyn manson (he did portraits of jolie) but can’t imagine him thinking anything AJ might have said or done as being disturbing.
Reply@Elle:
ITA I think that when AJ made the ‘woman’ comment she meant that she was now officially a grownup. I married at 20 and still didn’t feel like a mature adult. My attitude was if it doesn’t work out we’ll divorce no biggie. 17 months later I gave birth to my gorgeous son and I knew that my attitude had to change he came first and I realised my marriage was important. I really enjoy this site but this post has left a bad taste in my mouth. Until now it was easy to ignore hints of abuse as we might of just interpreted SRRC wrong or something. In this the message is loud and clear but there is in fact nothing of substance in it. So she massages the kids – in Britain they have baby massage courses to help you bond with your babies and soothe them. Although I never had a bath with my son (I like the water as hot as possible) I remember taking baths with my mum. I also kiss my son on the lips and do many other mums. The only thing really is comment she made to this artist. Has this artist rang social services? If not then she either felt the comment was acceptable in context of the conversation or she doesn’t think anything is going on with the children (by the way I don’t think this comment was acceptable and extremely vile if she did say it but maybe she meant ‘hey me and my kids are sooo gawgus just think what OUR kids would look like if we could breed’).
I also agree with Cynicalone that if there is any substance to the stories these the children are entitled to the same privacy other children would be given and should not be the subject of innuendo on a gossip site.
Replyelle, the youtube link to what AJ said about maddox making her a woman is above.
here are some other AJ quotes:
Reply“I don’t believe in guilt, I believe in living on impulse as long as you never intentionally hurt another person, and don’t judge people in your life. I think you should live completely free.” – Angelina Jolie
“Everyone got kind of crazy with me mentioning I was in love with a woman.” – Angelina Jolie
“I always play women I would date.” – Angelina Jolie
“I am so in love with my brother right now!” – Angelina Jolie
“I don’t think the money people in Hollywood have ever thought I was normal, but I am dedicated to my work and that’s what counts.” – Angelina Jolie
“I dropped my pants in a tattoo parlor in Amsterdam. I woke up in a waterbed with this funky-looking dragon with a blue tongue on my hip. I realized I made a mistake, so a few months later I got a cross to cover it. When my pants hang low, it looks like I’m wearing a dagger!” – Angelina Jolie
“I like everything. Boyish girls, girlish boys, the heavy and the skinny. Which is a problem when I’m walking down the street.” – Angelina Jolie
“I like someone who is a little crazy but coming from a good place. I think scars are sexy because it means you made a mistake that led to a mess.” – Angelina Jolie
“I like to hide behind the characters I play. Despite the public perception, I am a very private person who has a hard time with the fame thing.” – Angelina Jolie
“I love doing lesbian love scenes. Before I did my lesbian scenes in Gia, I talked to actresses who said love scenes are easier with another woman than a man. Bound’s Gina Gershon and Jennifer Tilly said they’d lie there and discuss the sale at Barney’s between takes.” – Angelina Jolie
“I love to put on lotion. Sometimes I’ll watch TV and go into a lotion trance for an hour. I try to find brands that don’t taste bad in case anyone wants to taste me.” – Angelina Jolie
“I need more sex, OK? Before I die I wanna taste everyone in the world.” – Angelina Jolie
“I need someone physically stronger than me… I am always on top. It’s really unfortunate. I am begging for the man that can put me on the bottom. Or the woman. Anybody that can take me down.” – Angelina Jolie
“I never like being touched, ever. People used to say I held my breath when they were hugging me. I still do.” – Angelina Jolie
“If I didn’t have my films as an outlet for all the different sides of me, I would probably be locked up.” – Angelina Jolie
“Therapy? I don’t need that. The roles that I choose are my therapy.” – Angelina Jolie
“They’re right to think that about me, because I’m the person most likely to sleep with my female fans, I genuinely love other women. And I think they know that.” – Angelina Jolie
“When I get logical, and I don’t trust my instincts – that’s when I get in trouble.” – Angelina Jolie
I am in the states and yes, I think it should be investigated. I have written letters to our goverment officials about so called “stars” represented my Country. They probably all think we are egotistic self absorbed people who can buy anything we want. If they are going to shove someone down my daughters throat to admire, there are alot of caring Americans to fit the bill.
Reply@ moo – I agree with everything you said, except for I don’t think that comment was really acceptable in any context. No parent should ever think about their children in that way or make a statement like that. Its hard to understand how it could have been said in anything other than an inappropriate context. Even if it was said as a joke or a flippant remark, it is clear she is not viewing them as children, she is imagining them in an inappropriate context. And I get the strong impression from SR’s posts that there is more to it than Ian was able to say in this post. The “basket of perverted fruit”, the “little devil…cutest garden…forbidden explorations”, the references in The Color Purple post yesterday which all seemed to relate to children and children’s paraphernalia. The “appliqued figures”, the “butterfly light on the rail” and so on. And then the mention of the fruit: the peaches, plums and cherries. It is all very worrying and disturbing. Don’t you think that if these people were in the UK it would be grounds enough to report them?
Reply@ceegee I also lost any respect I had for Pitt. I watch his movies now and look to see if his mouth is hanging open.
Reply@Keane:Hmmm, remember a little ole trial starring OJ Simpson? That was democracy at its worst if you ask me, JMHO of course, but I lost faith in our system after that and I have always been a staunch American. Color me naive but that was my first taste of just how money can work for even the most heinous criminals!!!
@ Everyone: No need to go crazy on me its just my opinion! LOL
Reply@ sinker – wow there’s a whole lot of “I” in there isn’t there? Does this woman ever think about anything further than her own ego?
@ joanne – yes of course there is also the issue that this woman is an ambassador for the UN and a member of the CFR, both issues which have to be addressed. But first of all, the issue that must be addressed is the children. It can’t be allowed to happen.
Reply@ Caribsmom – I know I have been astonished by the things that I have learnt on this board with regard to the system in the US. That politicians align with organised crime to get into office, that they use violence to shut up their enemies, that celevs get away with what they get away with. The UK is not perfect as has been evidenced by the recent failings of Social Services in Hackney with baby P, but for the most part we do not have corruption or allow people with money and power to get away with murder. The Michael Jackson molestation cases in the US are another truly disturbing example. Not the one that he was tried for necessarily, but the ones that he paid off before that, and how he was allowed to get away with the “Neverland” scenario he created for himself. That would not be allowed to happen in the UK, no way.
Reply@Keane:
ReplyI also don’t think that the comment was acceptable. As gorgeous, brilliant, intelligent and great as me and my son are (LOL) I have certainly never thought about having children with him. It’s not even something that should viewed as a joke but it doesn’t mean she is abusing the children or actually wants to have babies with them. I’m not sure if this comment alone should mean that she should be investigated but given her whole background (drugs, self harming, attempted suicide) coupled with this comment then yes she should be investigated IMO. Oh and if this source does have concerns I think they should be forced to testify to keep their mouth shut and do nothing is inexcusable. As for what is said in SRRCs posts as much as I love trying to decipher them and watch others try, not much has ever been confirmed and different people have read the posts in different ways.
@joanne:
Replylol! I guess the kids with their mouths hanging open take after him.
@Keane:
ReplyIt doesn’t make us look to good does it. We also have an ex VP that is becoming an embarrassment. Its starting to look a little brighter, Americans voted for change and I hope we get it. We recently had two judges disrobed for sending our youth to juvenile detention for money. They promised to keep it full for a kickback.
@ joanne – did you see the Obama posts on here though? They were quite worrying. The drift was that he got involved with organised crime to get elected in Chicago and someone said that nobody could get elected in that city without doing so. Then there was a suggestion that a gay man who was going to spill the beans on a relationship with him was murdered and that he may have had an involvement with. A poster called Section 9 who has been here since the beginning said that the Democrats are no better than the Republicans and will protect their man no matter what that takes. He says it was the same with Clinton, violence and intimidation was used to keep people quiet. He warned SR off talking about him and I was shocked that politicians, the Prez included, could get away with criminal actions. There’s no way that would happen in the UK thankfully.
ReplyI think something has been done and that’s why we have not seen any photos of the family in toto. Is this site based in Canada or the U.S.? What are the libel laws in Canada? I think there must be hard evidence of something, otherwise the HW money men would be after this site, there’s a major investment in Salt to protect.
Reply@Keane:Oh yeah, both sides are equally dirty. The biggest problem is given the population and the indifference shown by the general public they get away with it. I’m not that familiar with the British System but it’s national, not regional correct? Here, family issues are considered State’s rights, that’s why the laws and enforcement vary so much. The southern states have the highest infant mortality rates and poorest records of protecting children.
Reply@ Different Guest – its funny you say that but the UK populace is actually far more indifferent to politics than the US is. I think its less than half of the population who bother to vote. We all watch with utter bewilderment when the US elects a new leader like it is electing the new messiah, nobody cares in the UK! But to be honest I think its because our system is so good and fair that there isn’t much to get that worked up about. If anything people get more worked up at people who take advantage of the system (like people who sit on welfare all their lives and have no intention of getting jobs, we have the highest teen pregnancy rate in Europe – virtually the world – as a result of this). But we see a lot of the US system as being very unfair: that healthcare is not free for all through your tax system for instance (I heard an American political commentator sayign recently that that was because if they did that the economic burden would be such that the US wouldn’t be the force that it is in the world right now, so it was a case of sacrificing people’s well-being for power, not good!). Having said that we are a much smaller country so these things are more manageable in terms of scale, plus our political and legal systems have been developing for a few hundred years more than the US I guess. But yeah the fact that politicians get away with criminal activity is highly shocking to us Brits. At the moment we have a big scandal about politicians claiming ridiculous things on their expenses to make up for the fact that they aren’t actually paid that well. It has all been done according to the rules but its just that the rules were too lax. Its the leading item on the national news every day though, and heads I’m sure will roll. That’s our idea of a big political scandal, not in quite the same league is it?!
Reply@Keane:
ReplySince I live here I voted for who I thought was best.
@Nicole:
ReplyI think Brad probably does have proof of something very untoward and that’s why the kids are with his parents. And if that is indeed the case, phoning the CPS is a moot point as they have been removed from the person who is allegedly harming them. And also, if indeed he has proof, she’ll never get custody of any of them, nor will she get visitation rights.
@DonnaInMichigan:
Replyi think people are enjoying Moral Outrage a little too much. Bottom line, take ALL gossip with lots of salt. If its true, the people who are involved should intervene. If not, there is nothing to worry about. Meanwhile, we consumers of gossip might chill and reflect a moment about what is being “gotten” out of stories of a train wreck.
No Elle, however living in a balloon of denial for whatever reason, will not protect an endangered child from a preditor. Most child molesters/pediphiles are so good at covering what they do in secret that most are shocked when the truth prevails. I personally know of an instance where a mayor of a town was molesting/having sexual contact with three little girls simutaeneously ( ages ranged from 7 – 9 y/r) for a period of years. None of the little girls said a word to anyone about what what taking place, not one word, however, after it was discovered and proven, it was clear that the little girls had taken a superior role to the pediphile. Amazing thing, a warped psyche. There is no positive way to look at a person, any person, and immediately know for fact they are molesting children. In fact, most molesters are so good at covering up, it’s by accident, or someone close who discovers the activity, that it comes to light. Never say people are on a hate for someone, and therefore making false accusations, or you may be in fact aiding a molester to continue this horrible assult on a child. Everyone has their own opinion, however i’ve had experiences in dealing with convicted pediphiles, so i know one can never look at anyone and state positively they could never do such a horrendous thing. @Elle:
ReplyFolks the limo driver reporting she’s was strung out most of the time. Massaging the chldren inappropriately, saying inappropriate things in front of them or about them, or otherwise acting in an inappropriate way. Someone acting erratically, deriding the kids one minute overindulgent, or ignoring them the next. These are all things that CPS will investigate. Even a neighbor reporting too much screaming was investinagted. They’ll also interview the kids and in some cases recommend a psychological evaluations. If no one is reporting any of this, then as I said, something don’t add up.
ReplyThere was a reporter that had to interview Jolie at an award show right around the time she made out with James. He asked her something about incest and she sort of commented in a way that freaked him out because she sounded like she was admitting it or being coy about it. I can’t remember the reporter’s name or the publication so if anyone here can remember it, please post with a link. Thanks. Just my memory of something I read in the past.
Reply@sinker:
With all due respect, AJ was in her 20’s and was manipulating the media then to get attention. Frankly, nothing she said in those quotes is particularly shocking for someone who was raised in L.A. Pretty tame actually. I don’t find anything abhorrent (sp) about the lesbianism. I just think she talks too much and doesn’t have a lot to say. But look where it got her. It’s society you should blame, not a silly attention-seeking 20-something actress ho.
Reply@Patty anne:
ReplyI am saying I am calling bullshit on this intel, that’s all. I am not even considering it enough to speculate that AJ didn’t do it. And, as many a poster has stated, if she is saying those things then this “friend” should call the authorities and not a gossip blog.
@Patty anne:
ReplyFrom what I can see, AJ has done her best to isolate both BP and the kids from outside influence. No friends, no stable environment and in the case of the kids, no stable schooling either. That to me is a huge red flag, there is nothing normal at all about that sort of controlling behavior.
Keane, what Section 9 said about politicians in Chicago is very true. The nick for it is “Chicago style politics”. If half the voters would have dug past what the alphabet networks were dishing out about Obama and Biden, they would have never voted for him. There are actually people, suprisingly many Democrats, that have petitions filed in courts to unseal records. It’s amazing that you have to be drug tested and get criminal background checks to work at a corporation, but a good 75% of our politicians are the biggest criminals out there. It’s even more of a joke that they are promising swift punishments for tax evaders when they put a huge tax evader in charge of the IRS! But on that note, I’ve read and studied in depth the similarities as well as the anomolies of what goes on in the UK. I got hooked on the news there after dating a Limey. The Europeans I know here tell me the difference is Americans wear their problems on their sleaves more. The welfare situation there didn’t just happen overnight. It happened over time and no one saw it coming because it wasn’t front page news. It is also absolutely atrocious what UK residents have to go through because of the travelers. On another note, my UK and European pals told me when they first came here, they expected all this racism and hatred and were pleasantly surprised to find it is not that bad and in many cases worse over there. I mean come on, the sLimey asked me to avoid saying my last name if I could help it when meeting his British freinds lest they find I have Scottish roots! Seriously.
There are too many people around the kids the right now for too much to happen. And I would think if something was going on, that nanny from the “incident” would have reported it. Confidentiality in any contract/profession is not punishable if it is to report a crime.
The laws between the US and UK are not that different either. If any country is the most similar to the US, it is the UK. If anything, I hope big time we don’t become as socialist as the UK has become.
Reply@BigApplette:
ReplyI remember when she was like “I never knew how many sick people there were in the world until this happened”. Um, yeah, you just said you were in love with your bro and kissed him. What else would they think? I would to read that article where she sort of admits it. WOULD LOVE IT!!
@sth:
No offense meant, but “cutting” isn’t an open attitude, it is a manifestation of emotional problems.
@Liin:
Replylol…………got that right.
BINGO! Classic behavior of a molester. Alienate from associations with anyone who may pick up on what is occuring. Most sexually abused children are home schooled for just that reason. I am hopeful that some people in Jolie’s inner circle are now getting the balls to come out with what is taking place, i.e. the limo driver, etc. I understand how difficult it would be for a working class person in this failing economy to risk becoming blackballed/sued by a wealthy, abet perverted, person in any field. I’m just grateful that so many are now coming out with clues, tips, comments of what they have seen/heard to give those of us who have no fear of taking a stand for justice a heads up. In the U.S. anyone with strong enough suspicions of child molestation/abuse taking place is free to call the National Child Abuse Hotline that is listed in every phonebook in the U.S. Oh Yes, and one can make a complaint anonymously @Canuck:
Reply@p:
“I do believe based on her track record she’s bad news (the KNOWNS are bad enough) I just can’t say what’s true and what isn’t.” Totally agree, just look at what we do know and disregard anything that seems outlandish and w/o facts….huge red flags.
@Canuck:
ReplyThese are excellent points.
@ ml – what would you consider an appropriate reaction to be to suggestions of possible sexual impropriety with children? Indifference? Sympathy for the “train wreck” perpetrator? What? You think when people hear suggestions of improper behaviour with children we should take a chill pill and take it all with a grain of salt??! I am astonished that you could suggest that. The only appropriate reaction to such suggestions is outrage and the desire to see the children protected at all costs, but you’re suggesting we should chill out and go on our way? Even if there is no foundation to the allegations, the appropriate response is always to make sure it is investigated first and worry about hurting the feelings of the adults involved later. No question, no exceptions.
ReplyI remember my friend had CPS called on her. She was at the store with her son, 3 at the time. He got upset at the checkout line because she wouldn’t buy him a candy bar and it exploded to a full blown tantrum. The bag guy was taking her groceries out while her son threw himself on the pavement and starting screaming. She had to drag him by his arm to the car because she tried to pick him up he started kicking and biting. She might have lightly hit his face when he bit her. She dropped him at his mom’s, went to the hospital to get stitches from the bite (she was a nurse and knew she needed it addressed), drove home and lo and behold, child services was waiting for her. Someone called and reported her via her car tag. Luckily, there were enough witnesses. But that is how fast they respond. I called on a doctor after he gave me his credit card when I worked at a restaurant in college. He hit his daughter against the wall just because she asked me for a red crayon after telling me her sprite was “yecky”. I was so pissed. Red crayon…big woop. Sprite…syrup ran out and the poor kid had soda water. When that hypocrite handed me his card with doctor, I wrote down his name. Three different customers demanded it from me. They told me they were teachers and were obligated by law to report what they saw.
So these kind of things can go both ways.
ReplyJust for a bit of light relief, check out this BI from Blind Gossip (via Dlisted):
He’s been served! She has finally pulled the chip out of her head and has served her controlling hubby with divorce papers! And boy, is he mad!
She will file on the grounds of “Irreconcilable Differences”. The other choice would have required them to go to court, and would have just reflected poorly on both of them. Her attorneys – especially one who worked with her predecessor – have been able to work around most of the restrictions in her original pre-nuptial agreement. She did not fulfill the terms of the contract that would maximize her payout, but she will receive a sizeable chunk of change to keep quiet about his personal life and his special relationship with another high-profile man.
She had him served with documents for a “Dissolution of Contract,” not “Dissolution of Marriage”. There is no court filing yet – that’s the next step. She will be asking for sole custody of the kid/s. She is not currently pregnant.
Reply@Keane:
Replyoh, tom!
@sinker:
ReplyI think its Tom Cruise too.
Hmmmm, sadly this is a story I can believe to be true. She just gives off sick vibes like that.
Reply@Keane:It The Chip in her Head makes me think of Katie Holmes, but can it be? I heard she had like a 5 year contract, it hasn’t been 5 years yet has it?
Reply@Caribsmom:Oops, I see she hasn’t fulfilled the terms of her contract, sorry
ReplyI haven’t read all the comments on this thread, but I trust that any worried friend–especially regarding such a serious matter–would have immediately contacted Child Protective Services with all of their evidence. If not, I sure hope Ian has done what is morally right and called them to give the name of the concerned friend for a follow-up investigation to ensure safety of the children.
http://www.ocfs.state.ny.us/main/
Reply1-800-732-5207 or 1-212-676-2444
@joanne:
ReplyFormer VP Cheney is BECOMING an embarrassment? You think? No he’s such a great guy…..beloved the world over!!! That man’s administration has embarrassed us all over the world. So becoming an embarrasment? That ship has long since sailed. Those war criminals need to be brought up on charges if anyone does. That IS NOT IMO it is a fact.
I think Keane’s post of the BI could be Katie Price. Wasn’t their a rumor of a gay man involved.
ReplyHIlarious isn’t it! Well done Katie for escaping I say, run for your life and take Suri with you! I think this will be curtains for Tom’s image. He’s going to look like a washed up middle-aged guy who can’t even keep a beard let alone a wife. I wonder who the other man is, has to be Travolta really doesn’t it? I can’t see him dipping his wick outside scientology! I wonder who his next beard will be, let’s all take bets. My vote, hmmm…. Rachel Bilson? She’s already in a fako engagement with Hayden Christensen to try to establish a film career but word is its not going anywhere. I reckon she’d be a possible candidate.
@ Chris G – exactly, that’s what I hope too.
ReplyYep, i think Katie Holms too….the “chip” in her head could refer to Stepford Wives role she played, and we all know Tom requires his wives to sign contracts for a given period of time. He divorced Nicole Kidman days before their 10 year contract expired. Katie has Suri to use for leverage though….That little beauty dosen’t need to grow up around that sort of mess…
Reply@Mama San:
Replydo you even read yourself before posting ? i’am french and Roman Polanski is not a hero here, that’s total bulls**. what are you gonna say next, that the brangelina rent a house here because we like child molesters ? he came here to run away from your justice, and let’s face it, like others did in other countries, and some in YOURS. RP a french hero… really. most of the french people don’t even know he did that. and trust me, most of the french don’t even know who he is, or that he’s american.
I hesitate to believe some of the things I’ve heard on this site recently. However if they are true why aren’t other reputable tabloids or gossip sites coming forward with their own information e.g People magazine and E News. Sources don’t usually talk to one establishment only they tend to grab at as much money as they can. One thing I can tell you that is keeping me from totally discounting information on this site is the way Brangelina’s camp have had totally nothing to say on all the things being said recently. I know Brad just did an interview with a magazine. Is he going to make some more vapid remarks like “Jen is a sweetheart”, “Nothing Dastardly” and “Jen walked right into that.” They were out of the country once when rumors of a break up were circulating and right away their reps denied it. It suggests to me that the image of them together was an important one to them. Another thing is all the she’s a mess on the set of Salt rumors, these tend to give movie execs & producers panic attacks and right away these rumors are furiously denied. Also where are all the pics of Angelina on the Salt set. There seems to be a picture everyday of Jennifer on her movie set but Angelina’s pics have suddenly stopped. If these are all rumors being perpetuated about Brangelina I think they deserve it somehow. It started with that photo in the magazine of them sitting around a table with red-headed children. And Lady Angelina’s “I enjoy sex on my side while pregnant comments.” They gave the tabloids the fodder they are using to crucify them and I hope for the sake of the children who will soon be old enough to surf the web it will die on its own soon. I still say leave Jennifer Aniston out of it because I think she’s endured enough ridicule to last her the rest of her life on top of being hurt.
ReplyAnother link I just found on my break. Anyone see this…Penn and Portman.
http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,25460381-5012974,00.html
ReplyHas Ted C. ever answered a Bitch-Back letter about Fake A La Ferocity that contained AJ’s name in it? I think Ted has been reading his comments section and people complaining about no updates on FF due to E’s payoff. Is this his way of warming up to the FF speculators or a way to squash it all together? Thoughts?
This was today at Ted C’s blog”
Dear Ted:
The idea of an Angelina Jolie tell-all book is intriguing. Even if it never sees the light of day, some of the rumors are quite scandalous. Maybe some of them are fake, but I believe the dirt on Angie would be quite ferocious if it ever came out. Do you agree?
—LB
Dear Clever:
ReplyDo I detect a not-so-subtle guess for a Blind Vice there?
@ Ken – if you look on the “Lilo is pregnant” thread, just look at the number of other blogs which have picked that story up, there’s at least 20 of them. The Brangelina stories are barely touched. That’s what high-powered lawyers, publicists and being the biggest selling couple in the world buys you. People have had a deal with Brange ever since the twins photoshoot to publish only positive stories about them (please see The NY Times article by Brook Barnes). E recently made a doantion of $100,000 to the Jolie-Pitt foundation. Since then the BI that was widely rumoured to be about them has been dropped like a hot brick. Its not too difficult to put two and two together. The media have supported Brange for the last few years because they make a fortune out of them with sales of issues in which they are featured. They are the most bankabale stars in terms of magazine sales (but unfortunately for them, not box office sales). They were both nominated for all those awards recently to guarantee they showed up at the events so the organisers would get higher audiences and would get higher revenue from advertising. That’s why the media will play along with them until the day they announce the split. They can’t afford to bite the hand that feeds them. Even when they are separated they will still make money for those mags so they can’t afford to piss them off still. The tide will only turn when they’re not bankable any more. May I present exhibit A: washed up Lilo. BTW ITA re: Aniston, and did AJ really say that about the sex while pregnant? She really can’t keep a lid on it can she? Everyone does it AJ, even animals, oh yeah I forgot you knew that didn’t you, sorry…..!
Reply@Keane:
ReplyI think Will Smith is the other man. JMO. I thought TC and JT couldn’t stand each other.
Keane, I can’t remember what thread that BI item was in. I’m collecting to send links to my mom. She is a huge JA fan. I told her some of the stuff I’ve heard and stressed these are rumors, but after seeing the tabs in the store the other day, she wants to collect these tidbits and see what happens. I remember sending her a link to the donation but until coming here, didn’t know about the BI timing.
Thanks.
Reply@ AFM – hm I’m not sure with Ted, I think he’s pissed that his hands have been tied by e and now he has to report on lame Twilight gossip for hits. I think he wants to say stuff but knows he can’t and is a bit bitter about it now. So maybe he’s just trying to say stuff in that kind of cryptic way. A lot of what he says is really. He always says with regard to someone who’s in a relationship with a beard that that person “has exactly what they want right now”. Its his code for its a relationship for publicity. You understand more of what he’s saying I think after things have been confirmed here. Before I read here I never got half of it because it was too cryptic. I think everyone knew who fakey was, Brange included, hence the pay-off JMO.
Reply@ AFM – oh yeah you’re probably right, he’s a bit hotter than Travolta hey?
@ another lurker – which BI are you after sorry, the one that I just posted? Its the top item on dlisted.com right now.
Reply@Ken:
Reply@Keane:
The LiLo story being picked up so quickly and generously tells me that A LOT of people out there are reading and BELIEVING what Ian’s writing. How can they believe and publish the LiLo story and not the Brangie stories? They are either too scared or have been bought off by the Holy Couple. Just My Opinion.
@Angie’s Fax Machine:
ha! finally. this sounds like a ‘reveal’ to me.
i think ted / E got a serious hand-smacking from the AJ machine after the fake-a-la-ferocity blind. it might have been around the time she was asking reporters to sign those contracts “not ask Ms. Jolie any questions regarding her personal relationships. In the event Interviewer does ask Ms. Jolie any questions regarding her personal relationships, Ms. Jolie will have the right to immediately terminate the interview and leave.” IMO JMO
Reply@Keane:
The one you were talking about when you said this:
“E recently made a doantion of $100,000 to the Jolie-Pitt foundation. Since then the BI that was widely rumoured to be about them has been dropped like a hot brick. Its not too difficult to put two and two together. “
Reply@sinker:
I remember that too. I remember loving to go to PopSugar and rip on this nasty woman there. When that article came out, OMG, I had a great time twisting that around. Then I got banned. PopSugar used to be a huge loon supporter. I was shredding AJ for always carrying Z and not getting the kid therapy after AJ tells everyone she has problems walking. Then, I see a video of her walking, and said now that is cute, she has that monkey-walk that all toddlers have when they first start walking. Next thing you know I’m branded as a racist and I’m part black!! I had the extreme pleasure of ruining two major ad gigs after that for that site. I took the other brains with me…I just liked going there for the makeup stuff and a book club I started…and then helping my pals out who hated AJ. Myself and a few others started a network to complain to Sephora after this upset that we would boycott them if they continued to be strongly affiliated with them.
Reply@ another lurker – oh the Fake-a-la-Ferocity one? Its on Ted Casablanca’s The Awful Truth on e online. I’m not sure whether it will still be there though, if it is it will be in the archives. He hasn’t done anything on them for months, hence the suspicion that he has been silenced by the long arm of the Brange.
Reply@another lurker:
ReplyWell, he didn’t deny it’s her. Soooooo…. I don’t know. He usually tells the letter writer if they’re wrong with their guess. He didn’t in this letter.
This is the most inflamatory piece of garbage on the internet. What an absolute load of utter rot. If anyone believes this woman is a child abuser then I suggest you go and have a serious look at yourself. It is fucking frightening how many of you demonise a person who has done nothing except be a little eccentric and odd, but to accuse her of child abuse is beyond disgusting and abbhorent. Ian, you’re nothing but a filthy hack.
ReplyOHhhhhh, that one. Was her for SURE. Oh yeah, I remember I was shredded for ripping on those pics of her all effed up with glassy dilated eyes.
ReplyIt’s gossip Ginger. Want to see inflammatory. Google Katie Price and cell phone.
Or better yet, go read one of Jolie’s earlier interviews…in her own words. I’m sure no one here would even believe it if it weren’t for her tonguing her bro in public. Now THAT was sick, sick, sick.
Reply@ Ginger – I think she’s done a little more than be a “little eccentric and odd”: heroin use; cutting; using knives during sex; having a live-in boyfriend at the age of 14; buying her 7 year old son a knife to play with; wearing vials of blood around her neck; getting married with the name of her husband daubed in blood on her T-shirt; illegal adoptions; going after every man she’s ever worked with whether married or in a relationship or not; snogging her brother in public and declaring she was “so in love with him” when she accepted her oscar. You call all that just a “little ecentric and odd”. I have no idea whether what is being suggested here is true or not, I very much hope for the sake of the children it is not. But AJ just a “little eccentric and odd”? Which rock have you been living under? I think AJ has been more than open about her proclivities, and I think it could be that that will be her downfall. JMO
Reply@ another lurker – ugh, what is that? Was that her sex tape? Oh I don’t want to know, I’ve already heard too many unpleasant details about her and Peter’s sex life! He’s not gay to my knowledge BTW, although a lot of Americans think he is. By the sounds of things they had a very dirty sex life, and he wanted it more than she was prepared to give it!
Reply@another lurker:
ReplyWhich pics?
AFM, There is a pic a friend told me about that is her doing something with a cell phone. I refused to click the link. But I did a quick google and this forum has a link
And Keane, it is my Aussie friends who told me Peter was gay. He probably bearded her out to get away from that talk about him in Oz. I have pretty decent gaydar, and he seems very gay.
Reply@Vittorio:
ReplyI agree with you 100 percent. I should have said he is still an embarrassment and no one is shutting him up.
Here’s the link. I’ll try to stop in later tonight. Have to go drive home from work and study my federal tax law book.
Replyhttp://www.gossiprocks.com/forum/gossip-archive/49634-katie-price-jordan-talks-about-sex-bathtub.html
I hope this link stays. Third timie the charm
Reply@ another lurker – well that is interesting. The back story with him is that when he was a one hit wonder in tne early 90’s I think it was he said he fucked every girl he could get his hands on because everyone thought he was gay and he got a complex about him. After his one hit he had a mental breakdown and went back to Oz. His return to celebrity was doing the reality show where he met and later married Katie Price. Apparently he also dated Scary Spice who warned Katie off him because she said he dates people for publicity. SS is also very bisexual. Well, if Andre is gay he sure has pulled the wool over Katie’s eyes and the rest of the UK because really no-one here has those suspicions about him. Instead he comes across as highly sexed and not getting enough action from his wife (now ex). I never say anyone can not be gay though because anything is possible. I would be surprised though. Did your friends give you any more detail than that?
ReplyJust that it was common knowledge. I’m not into that pretty boy look. I never really lusted after those types. When I was a teen in the 80s, I was lusting after Tom Berenger and Michael Douglas, LOL. Now, it’s Colin Firth and Christian Bale, or a cross between the both. That would be my freebie. My ex Limey bf hasn’t been in the UK for years and one day he called me a “chav”, thinking it meant someone fun. I almost slapped him. I am an executive who likes to go out and dance once a week and maybe at most have 4 drinks in a night. That bonehead didn’t even know his own countries slang. So I added some British news pubs to my reading to rip on him. He was a pansy in the end. I do like when the Mail comes out with an article shredding the metrosexuals to email to him. He thought that was a good thing.
Reply@p – I agree with you – cutting is an external manifestation of psychological disturbance — hence, the comment that I wouldn’t be surprised if AJ suffered child abuse (sexual or otherwise). By “open attitude”, I only meant AJ’s openness in admitting that behaviour. Most people, I would think, would just deny, deny, deny. She admitted it. Even if it was partially (or wholly) self-serving, it’s still somewhat ballsy.
As for everything else — I like this site. I like trying to piece out the riddles. I like hearing what purports to be insider info etc. But this AS posting, in particular, seems weak and reaching. Sorry but isn’t AJ’s past and present comment-worthy enough without having to go for future conjecture?
Lastly, if BP’s parents don’t quiz/check out those kids all the time, I’d be really really surprised.
ReplySpeaking of British rags (to Keane, from the other thread), has anyone ever seen this article and video of the “goddess”? LMAO
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/showbiz/bizarre/article1178856.ece
Reply@another lurker:
ReplyWow, I never saw that. Her face looks like something from a horror movie. Was that before she got surgery to narrow her eyes? They look huge and scary. Anyway I wonder what year that was….her hair is the same as the James kissing shots when it was short and gray-looking.
@sth:
I don’t have time to solve the puzzles (working full time and getting a 2nd masters in forensic accounting (fraud)) but I like watching you guys. Currently as a financial analyst, it is teaching me to break down people like numbers which is important according to some of the more psychological and sociological classes I’ve taken.
Man, I never liked her. Is she fascinating nonetheless? Sure. What’s even more fascinating and begs to be studied is the neurosis of her fans. Just wow. When I see that type of worship, it’s like witnessing people blinded by a light. I’m not a big fan of Obama and his lack of experience at all, shoot, haven’t liked any president since Reagan, but it’s the same thing with him. Try giving any critical analysis over his policies or the pure facts, and it’s like “wow”. While I don’t know everything, I had a english major get huffy with me when I laid down pure facts on finance, economics, and history (HUGE hobby…everyone sends their kids to me for help). It was wild.
Well, with this woman. I didn’t like her too much from when she was showing her infamous “she just was wild” side. I do believe she tried to reinvent herself and wanted stability and thought at first Brad would secure that. Well, it’s like this. You can only get that stability on your own, I strongly believe that true to the core. No person or organization or government can give that to you. I sincerely think she felt she was heading there when she adopted Mad. IF she would have laid low and really grew THAT relationship, and she stuck to her guns, she would have a helluva turn around story. However, being addictive, she found her a new fix who eventually became her enabler. When that wasn’t enough, she found a new thing, kids. Instead of spending time peacefully bonding with her new son, she had gone after chaos. And boy has it been chaotic. She has the perfect front, the perfect spineless enabler. A note on that too, at first, she was hot for him. He was forbidden. When she got him, it wasn’t BBT. When things calmed down, she found she just had a good ole boy. So it was new thrills. Cannes. The Oscars. The Tabloid Rag Queen. The talk about how wonderful and humble she is.
What I’m getting at, is while I don’t want to venture into the molestation part, that is where I just won’t go unless I know, but this woman never got help from her druggie days and it seems she is addictive and who knows where she’ll go. Seriously, she needs help. REAL help. She’s burnt. I can’t think of anyone who lives like that. I traveled with one job at least 2-2.5 months a year and it sucked. Even in nice hotels and on ships.
I never liked her. Ever. The attacks on Jennifer Aniston by “the goddess’s” fans actually makes me like her. But otherwise, Jen lost a spineless man. I’ve had that happen and every single one regrets it to this day. So it is entirely believable she could be meeting him if all of this is true and just talking. There is something about feeling redeemed that just knocks your confidence level up and that makes you sexy. I’m probably going to marry this guy I’m with but I had a horrible break-up with a six year relationship and unbeknownst to me, it involved drugs, booze, and some pretty horrible crap. The dating and rebounds along the way were intense and very romantic, taking me once to dive in the Red Sea and go to a ball next to the Giza pyramids. Now I settle. That is the normal course. I don’t think she would go back. But if this is true, I would put my money on it she’ll be strutting her stuff proud as a peacock. Watch. IF this is true as it is being played out, let me stress that.
After spending years just “not liking” this woman, because of this site, I found even more things as a result of fact checking. It’s nice when your gut is on the right track.
Reply@sth:
ReplyYeah, you got some goods points here…and you are probably right, Pitt’s parents must check the kids and talk to them/question them. It certainly seems they don’t trust AJ. And BB14 mentioned that James said that Brad “kidnapped” the kids by bringing them to Niagra…..that could be more of the wanting to keep them close to AJ, sheltered and not seen by others. Or it could just be a stupid accusation.
And if you all look at the date that video was released, what else do you think was released in the media?
Reply@another lurker:
ReplyWhen was it released?
@Z:
Being pregnant in France my dear.
http://wizbangpop.com/2008/05/05/angelina-jolies-drug-tape.php
Just do a quick video of her name and drug video. The objective reporters reported but that didn’t make the media. Looks like NE is becoming more reputable that People.
ReplyWow, googling her produces some crazy results.
http://www.hollyscoop.com/angelina-jolie/dr-drew-concerned-with-angelina-jolie_16538.aspx
ReplyI see 1999…..she was 23. Wow…disturbing stuff there. And although she wasn’t shown doing drugs, she obviously was high….rubbing her mouth constantly. Another Lurker, I was thinking about Maddox earlier today and then read what you wrote…I was thinking the same thing, if she would have kept the family to 2 kids, maybe….and concentrated on them (in a loving way – if that’s possible for her). But it seems the addiction extended to collecting kids. And has she ever even tried to get well? An addiction or addictions don’t just go away on their own (not usually anyway). Sex and drugs are or were addictions for her…..imo, anyway. The fact that she killed her animals…OK, let’s say it was an accident…but she beat up on her friends, too. And the incest with James and thinking it’s OK. This woman is seriously disturbed.
Here is a synopsis from a book called “The Sociopath Next Door”: How do we recognize the remorseless? One of their chief characteristics is a kind of glow or charisma that makes sociopaths more charming or interesting than the other people around them. They’re more spontaneous, more intense, more complex, or even sexier than everyone else, making them tricky to identify and leaving us easily seduced. Fundamentally, sociopaths are different because they cannot love. Sociopaths learn early on to show sham emotion, but underneath they are indifferent to others’ suffering. They live to dominate and thrill to win.
Wonder if that “charisma” attracted Brad? No doubt.
Reply@another lurker:
I just wrote a big long comment/response…but it’s not up yet………..anyway, it says 1999. That video is pretty damning, in my opinion.
@another lurker:
ReplyInteresting! In the comment I wrote (that isn’t up) I said that addiction usually doesn’t just go away by itself…I mean almost never. And, imo, she was addicted to drugs and sex…which is an extremely hard addiction to kick. Has she even tried?? It’s not going to go away w/o a hell of a lot of effort…and does she even think she needs help? 1st step to getting better is to recognize the problem.
@Z:
ReplyIt’s up….I thought that might happen. : )
@Z:
I should have clarified by saying when it was released. This hit the public last year in May.
I skimmed that book and actually am now studying different psych types which comes in useful in interviewing fraudsters. And you are right on about the addiction. It was just replaced with something else.
But that video. It is very clear when she is talking her smack that she is bullshitting big time. Pneumonia on a rodent? Yeah, bro bro and her grew up so poor yet someone was able to afford the diagnosis? If that’s the case, I have the map to Atlansis or the end of the rainbow to sell ya for a bargain.
Reply@Z:
I also had a roommate/tenant like that. Funny, one of her ex’s left her that book which she trashed but I saw it on the top. She was very exotic like AJ, had long dark hair like her, sung in a band, was a speech teacher, and man oh man, the drama. Loved to admit she was kinky. Bulimic. All the way down to chasing some pretty boy ex model who we suspect is gay and she is now knocked up. The dents in my door, the holes in my walls, the endless drama, the selfishness…I could go on and on. And living with her, that girl cheated to no end. My guy and I were consistently dragged into it by the dudes calling him or copying him on emails. You just wouldn’t believe it. But people that didn’t live with her, “oh, she’s a nice girl. She’s getting her masters and teaches kids to sing. She was an ex beauty queen. blah, blah, blah”.
I am so glad even just typing this that chaos is gone out of my home. I just looked around at my condo and seriously just felt major gratitude from the peace.
Reply@Ian’s Done:
I don’t think AJ will be able to do anything about this site—because I think at least some of these things are true. I don’t think she is sexually abusing the children–but this is a very common divorce allegation. It’s obvious we are getting feeds from people in each person’s camp, but AJ clearly has the most to lose. She has been very open about her sexual preferences and adventures, and that’s her own business until she has a houseful of children—adopted and biological.
She was raised in an unusual, chaotic household, and doesn’t have much of an idea about what most people believe is normal. I think she likely said some of these things in an innocent manner. Is it something I would say? No, of course not. But it doesn’t mean she is sexually abusing the kids. I think the people that post here that say she is manic-depressive are right.
I don’t think the children are in a good situation. I haven’t ever thought they were. Moving around with no friends and no stability isn’t good for any child. Traveling is educational and great for kids, but not moving incessantly. Also, the use of the kids for press photos shows no regard for their safety and privacy.
I also believe the kids could easily witness sexual situations they shouldn’t see. And I get that–not from Ian–but from reading her own interviews and watching her behavior for years.
So, could she go after Ian in the courts? Would she want to call attention to her lifestyle? No way.
ReplyTo say the least, this post sickened me and made me very angry. I don’t think I have anything special to add to the conversation but here’s a link for some reading on why this type of behaviour is so difficult to detect even in the most ordinary of circumstances. Yes, it’s an extremely disturbing subject, and that’s one of the reasons why there’s little awareness or acknowledgement of it, even to this day: http://www.canadiancrc.com/Newspaper_Articles/MovingF_Female_perpetrators_Child_sexual_abuse_JUL94.aspx
Reply@Canuck:
Canuck . I didn’t know his parents still had all the kids. Maybe it’s because both are filming ? But, your right if they are really being harmed then, it’s good they are out of harms way .
Reply@karenab:
Thank you karenab ! That is good to know.
ReplyJust a lurker here, but as a foster mom I’ve seen some scary stuff. IMO, if you are sexualized as a child, at that time you know it is wrong, it feels wrong, but your body responds as it is built to do. So if your first sexual experiences feel wrong and “yucky”, you may be incapable of having a normal healthy sex life. You think you have to have the wrong and yucky feeling to feel good. Make sense? Wierd, I know.
Reply@another lurker:
Hi Al, I couldn’t hear a lot of the video…heard some and read the text. But lying would not be out of character for her…imo. I’m not a therapist but have read and witnessed a lot of mentally ill behavior. I have seen addiction being transferred…addiction to one thing overcome, only to become addicted to another thing. It’s a sad, insidious thing…the addicted person has to stay on top of it and work at it….but I have seen people succeed!
@another lurker:
ReplyWow…that is so hard! I’m really happy for you, too. You must be filled with gratitude. My sister-in-law has a serious mental/emotional problem and I have been reading for months. I thought she may be a sociopath…but some things don’t add up…she seems more like a borderline personality. She and my brother were in therapy and she blamed him for everything and manipulated the therapist..she was never diagnosed…but the insanity – well, that therapist wasn’t very good. I could go on and on with examples…at this point I am keeping my distance, but they have kids and I feel like I have to help somehow. Hard situation!!!
@innerested:
ReplyYeah, that makes total sense to me! And it is so sad, because it sounds like that would be built in after that kind of horrible experience and very hard to change (with therapy, etc.).
@pickwick:
ReplyHey Pickwick, you have some great points here. I agree that those kids really need some stability…and even if some of the more wild things about AJ, said here, aren’t true – there is plenty of stuff that I’ve gathered just from witnessing them and reading stuff she says that seems totally unhealthy. They have a totally chaotic life and I really feel for those kids. I hope and pray it isn’t something worse/more than that.
@another lurker:
Replybb14. I saw it to. I’m an Australian.
@another lurker:
Replygo to a ball next to the Giza pyramids… The Desert Dinner?
@chris:
ReplyHey Chris, yes I do , maybe I should have put it in quotes, it was from the film that I posted about. And he is a criminal , rapist , pedophile, and sodomizer, that my friend is a fact , so if your upset about the facts, oh well. BS to you that the French do not know who he is, maybe YOU don’t. Anyway, why would I post that I think BP and AJ rented a house in France because you all like ‘child molesters”. ………………………………..Ok I stopped laughing, AND BTW, he’s not American, shows what you know, he was born in FRANCE to Polish parents who when then killed by the Nazi’s, so get YOUR facts straight, before coming at me again.
I will not post at you again, because I got the impression, you don’t think this man is a criminal or didn’t do anything wrong and the US is responsible for this man’s bad behavior, and we made him run form justic elike the coward he is……….. and don’t make ASSumptions about what YOU think people will post next, it makes and ASS out of you.
Do a little research and educate yourself on the case it may help for future posts, oh and reread your own posts before starting arguments with someone you don’t know. Thanks.
oh! my god!
ReplyIt is really true!! it’s uncradible! stop!!stop!!
@Mama San:
Reply@Chris, just in case you want to educate yourself.
http://www.intellectualconservative.com/article4541.html
certains pourraient inventer n’importe quoi pour faire parler d’eux ou tout simplement pour du fric!
Replyc’st immonde! et qu’en bien mal, qu’il y a t-il de mal à imaginer les enfants qu’on pourrait avoir avec nos propres enfants parce qu’on les trouve magnifiques. L’imagination ne fait aucun mal, le passage à l’acte oui. dans ce cas seul l’avenir le dira.
d’autre part, il m’est aussi arrivait d’embrasser ma soeur au cour de férias, cela n’avait rien de sexuel, c’était tout simplement fun!!!
Anyone remember when AJ was flying her plane all the time? Some pilots at the airports were concerned, but there were rounds of photos of her piloting planes with Brad.
Anyone notice those flying days are long over?
Think that’s because of heavy drug use?
Just an idea……..
Reply@ another lurker – I had heard about that video but never bothered to watch it until now. She is clearly off her face, probably on the hard stuff. Let’s face it most people don’t sit with a couple of other people who are smoking heroin and just take a couple of pills do they? Plus she is doing the typical rambling talk about any old shit that comes into my head type of talk people do when they’re on drugs. Its interesting though that even here it seems to be her that is doing the majority of the talking, just talking out loud at no-one in particular and just expecting people to listen. Its interesting as well that the things she says are just so superficial and lame, kind of the basis for a lot of her supposed charitable and humanitarian effotts I would say. Was there something about buying Halloween costumes for poor kids because they couldn’t afford them and spending a thousand dollars on presents for the crew at the end of a film but maybe wishing she could make them or something. I don’t know, I think this woman lives in cloud cuckoo land. I think she had a spoilt upnbringing (whatever JH says about not getting a car from pa and that being “debilitating”!) and she kind of fails to see the reality of actual poverty, the real issues at stake and how they can be addressed. This vague notion that she wants to buy poor kids costumes for Halloween to me sounds like the typical patronising response of someone who has never known real poverty (please also see Sam Ronson saying Peta shouldn’t have thrown flour over Lilo because some poor family somewhere could have used it to make a meal!) or what people’s real needs might be. I think a lot of what she does in terms of charity or whatever is just a sop to make herself feel better about her overprivileged existence. You know I have so much so let me treat you to something too, just as long as that doesn’t compromise my lifestyle in any way. I’ve heard rich kids talk like her a lot I have to say, getting all angsty about poverty and saying there must be something they can do to help this “whole Africa situation” sitting having a drink next to their condo in the Hamptons! (Ally Hilfiger and friends for one). These people just don’t get it and I think Angelina is just another one of those. BTW I believe the studio she was doing a film with at the time managed to suppress the second half of the video which was apparently much worse. I reckon it probably showed her doing drugs and maybe talking about much worse stuff. Oh and I think we can all see how much work she;s had done from that video – those eyes, those lips, they’re monstrously big. She’s definitely had them both made smaller somehow. She was no raving beauty in those days.
Reply@pickwick:
ReplyThat’s a good guess, I don’t understand why she did it at all while she was pregnant. Funny you brought that up. sSmeone just got into trouble over drinking and flying..lol FUI,instead of DUI, with Tommy Lee, a pilot .
Here it is .
http://www.tmz.com/2009/02/02/pilot-hit-the-bottle-after-flying-with-tommy-lee/
More on RP-http://www.rotten.com/library/bio/artists/roman-polanski/
@Mama San:
Replyhttp://www.rotten.com/library/bio/artists/roman-polanski/
Sorry posted it wrong.
I watched the drug video mentioned by some people above.
She says that she prefers S&M because with normal sex a person is just there ‘like an accessory’ while the person next to her is using heroin. Though it’s edited and we never see her use the drug, it is obvious that she is stoned and when the person next to her has trouble using the drug, she kindly helps by blowing on it.
She seems very interesting and likable and funny throughout much of her stoned commentary. But she now has a houseful of kids. She’s never gone through rehab to my knowledge. And she was expressing some troubling ideas about sexuality. Not making judgments on playing around during sex, but just that she thinks sex with out S%M is not worthwhile. It just doesn’t seem that she has a healthy idea about sex as being an expression of love.
Reply@Z:
ReplyYeah, you really don’t even have to believe anything Ian says to realize that isn’t a good home situation.
I’m a mom, and it seems obvious to me and some other moms I know that this family appears to be a mess, but there are so many who believe she is a real saint and make comments on other sites about how traveling and not having a home anywhere is so great for these children.
People are just blinded by the power of spin. It’s frightening, really, that even with all the evidence right in front of people (the drug use, the manic behavior, child collecting, restlessness and constant moving) and all the public comments and interviews and photos of her kissing her brother and hanging around in drug dens—that people still think she is a good role model and mother. It’s baffling.
Two things got me interested in this crazy Brangie stuff—the insane Esquire article citing her as being the best woman in the world and the absurd trip to the grocery store. I mean…..come on! It just amazes me that anyone would think the public would buy that one, and then that they DID “hook, line and sinker”.
The spin surrounding this family and the manipulation of press and public opinion has been astonishing in it’s breadth.
It’s sort of like that Dr. Seuss story about Yertle the Turtle. Yurtle wants to go higher and higher and eventually he falls. These two had to build their brand and persona to the point where even people who were barely interested in them began noticing how bizarre they are. Too much spotlight. Too much press for people with so much to hide.
@ pickwick – God do you think she sounds interesting? I think she sounds utterly vapid and shallow. Discussing buying Halloween costumes for poor kids when she is sat smoking up a few hundred dollars worth of cash in drugs? Does no-one see the hypocrisy there? Its like yeah I really want to help out those poor kids and make a difference to their lives but I just want to get my rocks off really good first and sit here and have this utterly shallow, vapid conversation. I will say she doesn’t come across as a smug, self-satisfied bitch like she does nowadays, she is certainly more likable and less offensive, but still I just think I am listening to the ramblings of someone who lives in fairy land and is not of particularly great intelligence. Everything was just so airy, fairy and vapid: oh yeah I had all these pets and I like S&M and I want to get Halloween costumes for poor kids. There is just no depth there. Does anyone seriously ever have conversations like this with their friends? To me she just sounds like a teenager trying to sound interesting and cool and failing. Admittedly she is on drugs and she is still fairly young so maybe you can’t expect great intellect or depth from her but to me what she was like then is how she is now – desperately trying to seem so deep and meaningful, but only ever skimming the surface with anything she ever does. Her film roles, her charidee “work”, whatever. Its all style over substance. It drives me crazy that the whole world seems to have fallen for it. JMO
Reply@another lurker:
ReplyIt’s amazing how much people can get away with when they look good.
When I was younger, I believed all the stuff I heard about the things that matter are in your heart, soul and spirit.
But I’ve learned since that the thing that really matters is appearance.
If you look good, people will forgive almost anything.
And men with want to marry you and follow you and be the nanny to your children and leave their marriages for no other reason than that they think you are attractive.
Happens all the time.
I’m always pleased if I meet a beautiful person who has taken the trouble to develop their personalities —it really shows quite a bit of depth, I think.
Because they don’t have to. They can be emotionally bankrupt and still have plenty of partners and lots of money and opportunities in life.
@Keane:
ReplyKeane, believe me, we both agree on the lack of real substance.
I agree with all the posts you write.
You had a good point that she was doing all the talking.
But I still have to admit that she was sort of funny and there is a charm there. I agree that she said disturbing things, and goofy things, but she wasn’t supporting a thesis at the time. She was smoking heroin.
I think someone mentioned that some psychologically messed up people can be very charming and endearing and that is what pulls you in. She seems cold to me in interviews and this was the first time I had ever seen her goofy, silly, relaxed and high. Yes, there is a certain charm and humor there.
It’s easy to see how she could easily con people.
Plus, drug addicts can be very funny and affable when they are using, only to turn into cold, dark, angry people when they are straight.
@ pickwick – yeah I have to say that in her interviews in her earlier days I find her fairly endearing and completely inoffensive. Whether it was an act or not she seemed pretty innocent and genuine and lacking the arrogance and attitude that is so evident with her nowadays. I have said before that I find it hard to reconcile that person (especially after reading the interview she did when with BBT) with the way she is now. Before there seemed to be a heart there, a warmth and a sense of humour. That is something that appears to have completely disappeared with her quest for ever-increasing fame and power. But then again, I saw an interview with her which she did with a radio station in the UK to promote Changeling and again she came across as normal, inoffensive, humble etc, and another one in fact with a TV show called The Culture Show. But at other times she gives off the air of total arrogance and superiority. Its bizarre to me, but I suspect she may be something of a split personality. Capable of being sweet, normal and nice at some times, a super bitch at others. It is strange, but I guess its her behaviour more than her personality that bothers me the most. The way she totes her kids around like accessories, makes piles of cash off of them and then hands them over to 6+ nannies and is not remotely involved with their care. Again I think this goes back to her being a bit of a spoilt HW brat. Even when she had just Maddox she had more than one nanny to care for him. She says in an interview with Ellen that she makes THEM keep him up when she is out late so she can put him to bed. I thought “them”, who are these “them”? You have more than one nanny per kid? I think she was raised in an overprivilged area of society and sees this stuff as normal. Mother Theresa she most certainly ain’t! I can’t imagine her sacrificing anything or doing any real physical graft for anyone, her own kids included. She is no different to Britney, Paris et al in my view.
Reply@ pickwick – I agree that looks really do get you places in life. They certainly help even with things like getting jobs sometimes. Also some of the best looing girls I’ve ever known, better looking than AJ and totally natural, had the worst personalities. They either seemed to suffer from a total lack of personality, had no charisma or charm, were just not very nice, or were completely bonkers. I don’t think I’ve ever met an extremely good-looking girl who had a personality. One almost did, but she wasn’t someone I would rate the most highly looks-wise. I think if you put these women on a graph with looks along the x axis and personality along the y, they would be in inverse proportion to one another (if that makes sense!). Needless to say, I don’t go for looks in women. They might be nice to look at for a while, but at some point you have to have a conversation with them and there the magic ends!
Replyhugh? interpretation of the post from vang. not a good interpretation.
Reply“some might invent anything to talk about themselves or just for money! c’st ugly! and that badly, that does not imagine that children could have with our own children because they are beautiful. The imagination does not hurt, the transition to so act. in this case only the future dira.d the other hand, I also came to embrace my sister in court férias, it was not sexual, it was just fun!”
@vang:
@Keane:
The most beautiful woman I ever “knew” (worked with) was really mean. If people were around, she would act like she was very sweet, but if it were just the two of us in the room working, she had a foul mouth and was really dumb. She once said something bad about Holocaust victims. Just an awful person.
She had a long line of handsome suitors—he choice. She selected a different guy to sleep with every night.
It just amazed me how many people fell for her act—and how many men just completely lost their sense and fell right into her snare.
She knew I saw through her.
My opinion of the intelligence of men dropped substantially as I watched the entire thing unfold. She barely, barely had to work at all and the boss believed that she was the best workder and promoted her.
ReplyHuman beings are suckers for what each culture thinks is a pretty face – male or female. Studies done by psychologists have found that preferential treatment for the pretty face starts when they are toddlers and continues through every level of school – special treatment is given to them by peers and teachers. It is an interesting area of study. The question I have is – why? I think it goes back to the very old religious idea that the external human form expresses the person inside – thus, the beautiful-on-the-outside person is suppose to be just as beautiful-on-the inside and the ugly or deformed on the outside is the same inside; another lesson that hopefully our elders and life’s experiences have taught each of us to be a fallacy – as personified by the “beautiful” but evil Ms. Jolie!
Reply@ pickwick – oh dear, that’s even worse than my experience! I have to say the best looking women I have ever met were the ones I was at Oxford with. There were a really high proportion of beautiful ones, much higher than you would find in normal life or at the other uni I went to. I think this is partly because posh/rich men are more likely to marry beautiful women and thus produce good-looking daughters who end up at the best unis by virtue of their expensive educations. However people sometimes did wonder whether certain tutors had a preference for the better looking girls over less good-looking ones or boys. There were always a high proportion of beautfiul brunettes amongst the history students in my college for example! The men though, terrible on the whole! Not a great choice for the hetero women there. Not that great looking guys often scored very beautiful girlfriends!
ReplyKeane,
That’s funny. I’ve always noticed that the most beautiful women go into art history. You mentioned that these women were history scholars.
No doubt the wealthy men marry the beautiful women and have the gorgeous, rich children.
If yours were at Oxford, surely they were smart and interesting.
You know, I once dealt with a wealthy man at one of the places I worked, and he told me that he had married his ex-wife solely because of her beauty even though he couldn’t stand her personality. He said he wanted beautiful children, and when he got the number he wanted, he dumped her and moved on to a younger woman. Sounds awful, but I gave him points for admitting it.
ReplyI’ve always thought that poor Brad was acting out some deep biological pull when he gave up everything for AJ, who is sooo different from himself. Who knows what she was thinking—perhaps furthering her career—-but I think he was practically the victim of some biological call to mate with her genetically.
ReplyNow that he’s done it, he’s like the wealthy guy I mentioned—he’s horrified and wants to get away—quickly.
Just like insects, really.
Oh, Keane, and as for professors, I’ve was hit on by the main history professor at my college, and he was SLEAZY when we were alone. He talked almost immediately as though he were on the set of a porn movie. It was disgusting. I don’t know who was desperate enough to fall for that. yuk. Just thinking about it makes me a little sick. He’s still churning out grad students.
Reply@ pickwick – oh no, never assume that just because someone goes to Oxford they are necessarily either the most intelligent or most interesting people you are likely to meet. I went to two state schools for my high school education (non fee-paying), one was a comprehensive (non-selective), the other was a Grammar School (selective). (Sorry I am assuming you are in the US, sorry if you already know this!). There were several people at my non fee-paying grammar school that I would consider to be more intelligent than many of the people I was at Oxford with. The difference is that they had all had private educations and the difference between their schooling and that of me and my friends was enormous. I had to bridge such a gap between my education and the level of study I was expected to practise at college that I was at a real disadvantage. I could not believe when I got there though how some of the people had got in, I thought some of them were really dim. So I’m afraid to say that the people who get into those types of unis aren’t necessarily the most intelligent in the land, far from it. An expensive education puts people way ahead of the game when it comes to university selection because state education is just so inferior. So no the women weren’t necessarily intelligent and not necessarily interesting either. In fact some of the most boring people I ever met came from college! That’s not to say they weren’t nice though, because they were, its just that people who have had a boarding school education and are upper-middle to upper class all think, act, dress and talk in exactly the same way. They are literally all the same: look the same (the boys even have the same facial features from inbreeding); dress the same; same accent; same interests and extra-curricular activities; same ambitions and so on. Posh people really aren’t my kind of people, they’re too homogenous. So socially college wasn’t really for me, but I got what I needed to get out of it and beat the hell out of there – ha ha!
Reply@ pickwick – yeah a theatre studies tutor came on to a friend of mine at the uni I went to for a while before oxford. Apparently he did it with someone every year. It was all lovey-dovey though, not leery, I think he bought her roses or something (barf). He was in his late 20’s I would have said and she was 18. It didn’t seem so bad at the time but now when I think of it it makes me want to puke! Unfortuantely for him I think my friend was slightly in love with me at the time (and probably gay anyway), so he didn’t have much of a chance the poor sod! I wonder whether subsequent years were more successful…. ha ha! Oh and BTW the thing you said about insects – hilarious!
Replybb14. Just heard a rumour from Brad Pitt Watch that Angelina is to play” Maleficent” in a live action movie “Sleeping Beauty” Ange doing another movie Brad will be pleased — not but then he probably doesn’t care anyway.
Reply@benjaminbutton14:
Reply“Sleeping Beauty” with the evil Ms. Jolie? Another one where she doesnt have to do any talking I bet!
This article is hilarious, simply because it’s clearly the biggest crock of salacious shit ever written.
Replyyeah …how about telling the police instead of a blogger, or writing this in the blog … say a lot about the ethic of some people
ReplyI never gave a damn about her, ever. She was just another spoiled Hollywood “brat.” But, when she was married to Billy Bob and the two of them were on the red carpet at the academy awards; when Billy Bob told the entire world that was watching that the two of them had “FUCKED” on the way to the Awards show, that’s when I formed my “opinion” of her. She’s nothing but a slut who is now trying to make herself out to be “Mother Teresa.” I don’t buy it….will never buy it. She’s a whore, plain and simple. I don’t care how many kids she has…..she’ll always be a whore. There are a lot of deviants in this world, but I certainly won’t support her in any way just because she’s a celebrity. I’m ashamed that I even gave her the time it took to type this. I just wanted to put in my two cents’ worth ( and I know it’s not much)
ReplyJust looking again at the pictures with the article, I wonder how long the evil Ms. Jolie had to sit on that “casting couch” in that uncomfortable position and what – did they glue her hair to the back of it so it would not drop down! What a pose!
ReplyHalperin makes things up for the gullible, and there are obviously a LOT of gullible people. This is total hogwash. Angelina was NEVER heard saying anything like that. Yeah, she kissed her brother once, but that was years ago, when she was still in the “let’s shock ‘em” mode of her life. Ginger, your post is absolutely 100% correct, and anyone who believes Halperin needs to have their head examined! Jolie is NOT a future child abuser…what is the matter with you people!? As for you, ladybert62, you are so obviously jealous. Angelina is not evil, and her hair is NOT glued. People like you let your imaginations and your ridiculous hatred carry too far. The picture is good, and she doesn’t NEED to have her hair “glued” or anything else for it to look that good. Are you secretly Aniston on here in disguise?! Keane, they do NOT have “six nannies.” They also do NOT make money off of their children. The money that was paid for the photos of their children after they were born went to CHARITY! You got a problem with THAT?! If you do, you are the problem! They have TWO nannies, and either Brad or Angelina stays with the children while the other one is making a film so that the kids are never without at least one parent. All of you hateful posters should be ashamed of yourselves! The majority of you sound childish and spiteful to say the least! Of course, you believe Halperin, so why would you be otherwise!?
Reply@Z:
Replyregardless of confidentiality agreements any caregiver is bound by law to report any type of abuse to the child protective services or they can be held as accomplices. Hollywood nannies included.
That picture of her & the brother just EWWWWW.
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