Sugar Ray Ramone Catone (The Bronx Bi-Blogger) – Zac loves Village People

Posted on May 5th, 2009 by HisHighness in IUC:Entertainment, IUC:Exclusive

Round mirror on the ceiling…listening to Macho Man and YMCA…Unzips older man’s pants and rolls them down…it’s fun to be at the YMCA…looking very sexy, hanging loose in that chair…not the gentlest of men…but would never harm an animal…leery, horny expressions…indecent exposure by the High School Musical Valedictorian…late night skinny-dip…off the diving board in good form…Zac dropped his towel…light blonde and curly…hadn’t been to the haridresser that day…golden spigots…boy eats the other boy…cracked up…all senses working…had each other seeing stars again…gulping milkshake…no ambition to get dressed…velvety eyes…second motion…camel-colored cloth  coat…mattress, money and merry go round…L.A. tumult…no high heels here…Young man, there’s no need to feel down…I said, young man, pick yourself off the ground…

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                                                            Te Amo, SRRC

  1. bettieboop said on May 5th, 2009 at 9:00 am

    That’s no surprise. The riddle could be fun.

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  2. Mememe said on May 5th, 2009 at 9:15 am

    Zac efron gay? Never! :-D

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  3. d said on May 5th, 2009 at 9:30 am

    well there’s a scoop…..the biggest gay star in hollywood is gay……….YAWN

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  4. bettieboop said on May 5th, 2009 at 9:36 am

    There is a particular person that often writes about his infatuation for Zac.

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  5. sinker said on May 5th, 2009 at 9:36 am

    wonder who this older man is? maybe he is involved w/ peta: “not the gentlest of men…but would never harm an animal”

    also: “camel-colored cloth coat…” wasn’t there a mention of this in one of the recent Brandge posts?

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  6. jeannie said on May 5th, 2009 at 9:46 am

    This is not exactly shocking. It would be interesting if it was Brad as the older man though.

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  7. Keane said on May 5th, 2009 at 9:49 am

    Well the Blind Item about a bi-racial couple about to make waves when they come out we pretty much came to the conclusion was Will Smith and Zac Efron. It was definitely about one of The Smiths anyway and with a much younger gay lover who we’re pretty sure was born in 1989 (as I believe Zac was).

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  8. bettieboop said on May 5th, 2009 at 9:52 am

    @Keane:
    I missed that blind item. Was it on this site or another?

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  9. Keane said on May 5th, 2009 at 9:53 am

    Oh shit no I know who it is, well this is my guess anyway: Mickey Rourke? He’s not the “gentlest of men” i.e. he’s The Wrestler but he is involved with Peta so would never harm an animal? Good Lord!!!

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  10. Keane said on May 5th, 2009 at 9:54 am

    @ bettieboop – it was on this site yes but we’ve never had a reveal. It was defo about either Will or Jada Smith and a much younger, white gay lover. Seemed to suggest Zac from a lot of the clues. But I don’t think this one is about Will.

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  11. bettieboop said on May 5th, 2009 at 9:55 am

    Unzips older man’s pants and rolls them down….
    boy eats the other boy…

    Are we to believe there are 3 people?

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  12. Keane said on May 5th, 2009 at 9:55 am

    “had each other seeing stars again” – as in from a bit of late-night wrestling? Ha ha!

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  13. bettieboop said on May 5th, 2009 at 9:56 am

    @Keane:
    You’re joking right?

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  14. Keane said on May 5th, 2009 at 9:57 am

    @ bb – could be, yes it does seem to go from a man to a boy. Gay men having threesomes and moresomes is not at all uncommon after all, let’s face it!

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  15. bettieboop said on May 5th, 2009 at 9:58 am

    @Keane:
    I know. After I read it a couple times that jumped out.

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  16. Keane said on May 5th, 2009 at 9:58 am

    @ bb – uh uh, google him he’s involved with Peta and he’s a big burly ex-boxer and just played The Wrestler. I can’t think of any other famous man who fits both of those bills can you?

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  17. Keane said on May 5th, 2009 at 10:00 am

    “mattress, money and merry-go-round” – sounds like someone got paid or at least will reap the rewards in their career financially?

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  18. Liin said on May 5th, 2009 at 10:02 am

    WOW – are bless they start soo young.

    A question to think about while we wait for the AJ/BP latest (nothing else compares i’m afraid) shall we play lets find a Hollywood Couple that are hetrosexual, monogamus, non-deviant, not drug dependant, (in love is too much to ask for so I wont) so lets say they get on with each other (not about to split or divorce)
    from everything I have learnt from IUC part of me thinks this couple cannot exist in hollywood (LOL), when we are bored I look forward to any answers.

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  19. bettieboop said on May 5th, 2009 at 10:03 am

    @Keane:
    And this comment; I said, young man, pick yourself off the ground…,

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  20. Keane said on May 5th, 2009 at 10:13 am

    @ bb – hm indeed, and I actually think its implying a little more than him just being gay don’t you? Its the “money, mattress and merry-go-round” bit more than anything. Does that just mean the casting couch or something more?

    @ Llin – Johnny Depp and Vanessa Paradis?
    Calista Flockhart and Harrison Ford?
    Melanie Griffiths and Antonio Banderas? (Despite a certain somone’s best efforts!)
    Who is Susan Sarandon with again? They might qualify.
    Generally I think its people who stay out of the public eye and don’t sell their relationship to the press. Much more likely to be genuine and not just done for publicity purposes.

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  21. Angie's Fax Machine said on May 5th, 2009 at 10:18 am

    Methinks a rent boy who is desperately trying to get out of that HSMusical typecast. Rent boy to the stars.

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  22. bettieboop said on May 5th, 2009 at 10:20 am

    @Keane:
    Tim Robbins.

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  23. bettieboop said on May 5th, 2009 at 10:23 am

    @Angie’s Fax Machine:
    Zac is. He was up for the remake of Foot Loose & turned it down because he wanted to do something other that “musicals”.

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  24. Sun said on May 5th, 2009 at 10:24 am

    @Keane
    Every time you say The Smiths I keep thinking, why is she talking about Morrissey… Then I get back to the present. LOL.

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  25. bettieboop said on May 5th, 2009 at 10:26 am

    Keane, did you read my 2nd entry? Do you know who I’m referring to? I’m sure Mickey is closer but…
    This person I’m referring to has a dog & wouldn’t hurt an animal. I’m doing some reading regarding the Peta comment & this person.

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  26. Keane said on May 5th, 2009 at 10:30 am

    @ bb – hm not really, some sort of sports star??? I don’t know any of those BTW!

    @ Sun – one of the clues in that BI was actually Rough Trade which was The Smiths record label if I remember right. Could also have meant gay sex though. But yes, The Smiths will always be a band from Madchester for me, not Will and Jada!

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  27. Sun said on May 5th, 2009 at 10:30 am

    @bettieboop
    Are you thinking Perez?

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  28. Tamara said on May 5th, 2009 at 10:31 am

    @Keane:Hmm, I think these couples:
    Tom Hanks Rita Wilson
    Kevin Bacon Kyra Sedgwick
    Steven Spielberg Kate Capshaw

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  29. bettieboop said on May 5th, 2009 at 10:32 am

    @Sun:
    Oh YES!!! He & Teddy.

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  30. Tamara said on May 5th, 2009 at 10:32 am

    I don’t suppose the older man could be Matthew Perry?

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  31. Tamara said on May 5th, 2009 at 10:34 am

    @Keane:Ah yes! Definitely Susan Sarandon Tim Robbins and Goldie Hawn Kurt Russell. Im not saying all of these people are straight, they might be BI, but they are doing things the right way and I respect that.

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  32. Liin said on May 5th, 2009 at 10:34 am

    @Keane – cheers for that, I like Courtney Cox & Hubby, they seem to fly well under the radar, It looks like living out of LA helps too.

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  33. bettieboop said on May 5th, 2009 at 10:34 am

    @Keane:
    No not a sports star. He is a blogger, Perez H.

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  34. Sun said on May 5th, 2009 at 10:35 am

    @bettieboop
    That crossed my mind too. I would hope Zac would have better taste though. No offense to Perez fans out there.

    @Keane
    Those were the good old days. Meat is Murder and all that stuff. Sigh.

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  35. Tamara said on May 5th, 2009 at 10:36 am

    @bettieboop:OMG Perez has such a crush on Zac and absolutely HATES Vanessa hahahaha! Would never harm an animal – loves his Teddy!!

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  36. Keane said on May 5th, 2009 at 10:37 am

    Also who is the other boy involved here? Is it another tween star? Does “had each other seeing stars again”, mean they’re both seeing big name stars to further their careers? And does the “no ambition to get dressed” mean they have no ambition to get dressed up for musical theate? They want to do more serious work? From what I’ve seen of Efron being interviewed I have to say he seems like a nice kid. Its a shame if he’s getting involved in the HW casting couch system.

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  37. bettieboop said on May 5th, 2009 at 10:41 am

    @Sun:
    I would hope so too. He’s a bit of clown/pig. IMO/JMO

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  38. bettieboop said on May 5th, 2009 at 10:43 am

    @Keane:
    There’s been speculation of Chace C & Westwick (can’t think of his name).

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  39. Keane said on May 5th, 2009 at 10:44 am

    No to Perez for me, the clue is in the “not the gentlest of gentlemen” bit for me. Plus it has to be someone who would further his career, Perez is not that man!

    @ Tamara – Kurt and Golide – don’t they have an “open” type of relationship? Not so sure about them myself!

    @ Llin – hm well Ted C made a comment about Cox and Arquette which had me wondering. Someone asked him whether there were any genuine couples in HW (much like you are asking!) and they gave Kyra Sedgwick and Kevin Bacon, Cox and Arquette and Kidman and Urban as examples. He said a definite yes to the first couple, a definite no to the last (so I think its pretty obvious what is going on there!) and a “sometimes” to Arquette and Cox. I have no idea what he meant by that though, that maybe they aren’t as solid and faithful as people may think? Who knows!

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  40. bettieboop said on May 5th, 2009 at 10:45 am

    @Keane:
    I was wonder if it meant casting couch also. Like I said in a previous post Zac want’s to be more do more than musicals.

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  41. Sun said on May 5th, 2009 at 10:48 am

    Plus I would be concerned Perez would, I don’t know, possibly hold something over Zac’s head. I agree with Keane, he seems like a nice kid and quite frankly, has talent. He doesn’t need to screw himself over so early by boffing bloggers who will sell him out. JMO! I don’t care if he is gay, I love him more for it – but come on, have some standards. Maybe it’s not Perez though.

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  42. Keane said on May 5th, 2009 at 10:48 am

    @ bb – I saw Ed Wetswick being interviewed on a UK chat show the other day (didn’t realise he was a Brit, I don’t follow that show at all) and I have to say he came across as a complete tit to me in the style of Jude Law (take that to mean what you will!). He was using this bizarre, affected voice/accent which may have been a posh boy trying to sound more street and failing miserably but could have been anything really(!) and said something about them being on “hiatus” from filming at the moment. The interviewers were like, uh what does that mean “on hiatus”, do you mean “on holiday”?! What a knob, but hey he’s young I guess so what do you expect. I thought Efron was quite inoffensive and quite serious too, not the juvenile idiot I expected him to be. Also, I have never heard about Matthew Perry being gay or bi, but after the stuff I have learnt on this site, I can believe anything is possible!

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  43. bettieboop said on May 5th, 2009 at 10:49 am

    @Keane:
    I’m with you on it not being PH. It’s too obvious due to his constant blogging about Zac.
    IMO Cox and Arquette are not solid. There’s been numerous speculation about marriage problems. And hey back to Jen, her & Cox are close.

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  44. bettieboop said on May 5th, 2009 at 10:51 am

    @Keane:
    For me it’s a no to Perry.

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  45. bettieboop said on May 5th, 2009 at 10:55 am

    @Keane:
    Help me with “tit”. Other than boob or mama’s boy I don’t know.

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  46. Susanna said on May 5th, 2009 at 10:55 am

    DId you all see the reports about Courtney Cox and Brad Pitt chatting all night at some concert in LA this past weekend? Makes sense if he and Jen are reconciling and/or friends again and Angie Jo is on her way out.

    I’ve read that C Cox and David A have had their ups and downs, but they still seem to be committed to making it work. I think I remember reading something about them going to couples therapy.

    Zac being gay is so obvious to me. I don’t see how teenage girls these days don’t see it. Also, I have a friend who works on the set of Gossip Girl. He says Westwick “likes the boys.” And that is a direct quote. I always thought it was just Chace that was gay.

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  47. bettieboop said on May 5th, 2009 at 10:56 am

    @bettieboop:
    2nd thought they did that movie 17 again. Keane, do you think he could boost Zac’s career? I don’t, he’s been a little slow himself lately.

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  48. karenab said on May 5th, 2009 at 10:57 am

    Is this 4 men? Unzips older man, then young men together then – second motion, camel coloured coat – could this be a 4th man?
    Then no high heels here – does than mean a man who has been caught before wearing shoes that add height – hmm whover could that be???

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  49. Angie's Fax Machine said on May 5th, 2009 at 10:57 am

    @bettieboop:
    I don’t blame him for not wanting to be typecast. He should try a career like James Franco’s. But James Franco is fearless IMO… and talented to boot. I wish Zac the best of luck. He seems like a really good kid. I hope that whatever money he’s making from his extra-curricular activities he’d invest in acting lessons, etc.

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  50. bettieboop said on May 5th, 2009 at 11:00 am

    @karenab:
    I took the coat as possibley being a hint.

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  51. bettieboop said on May 5th, 2009 at 11:03 am

    @bettieboop:
    A hint as to who the older man was.

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  52. Keane said on May 5th, 2009 at 11:14 am

    @ bb – oh no great hidden meaning, just a bit of a pretentious, full-of-himself, vain, idiotic ponce – does that explain it a bit better?! Hey I don’t mean to mince my words, that’s not like me! And re: Matthew Perry, no not at all, Zac is a bigger star than Perry and he couldnt get him a better role. Now Mickey Rourke with hsi recent noms and one award win (can’t remember which), now he could.

    @ kareanab – could be, well we all know who wears high heels don’t we? Cough, ahem, Tommy Girl, cough! Or maybe it means a man who has previously been known to dress in drag, either on screen or off? I think you’re right about the 4 men thing, it sounds like 2 young boys and 2 older men doesn’t it? I may be interpreting that line too literally but I keep thinking of “had them both seeing stars again” – is that two young boys seeing two older male stars to further their careers, or does it mean something else?

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  53. bettieboop said on May 5th, 2009 at 11:19 am

    L.A. tumult = L.A. uproar, confusion…Uproar or confusion if this older person was outed?
    Zac dropped his towel…light blonde and curly…hadn’t been to the haridresser that day…what’s this? I was going a couple places with this….
    golden spigots = golden shower? A spigot is a faucet, nozzel,….

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  54. bettieboop said on May 5th, 2009 at 11:24 am

    @Keane:
    So in other words, an ass. LOL
    Had them seeing stars that could be a few things. So you do think 4, 2 older & 2 younger? Do you think the camel cloth coat is a clue/hint? Will, Tom, Zac, & Chace??? IMO/JMO

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  55. sweetmaru said on May 5th, 2009 at 11:24 am

    Кинули сегодня в аське ссылку на эту новость – не жалею, что потратил время и перешел:)

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  56. bettieboop said on May 5th, 2009 at 11:30 am

    Is Valedictorian clue/hint? I did not see any of the HS Musical’s (not my thing), was that used in the title?

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  57. Patty anne said on May 5th, 2009 at 11:30 am

    News Flash….the sky is blue….yawnnnnnn

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  58. bettieboop said on May 5th, 2009 at 11:39 am

    indecent exposure by the High School Musical Valedictorian
    Who was the highest ranked student academically in the musical. The last musical was them graduating, right?

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  59. Keane said on May 5th, 2009 at 11:43 am

    @ bb – I think Valedictorian just refers to Zac graduating from High School and saying farewell to his tweener image and trying to pursue his future path as a serious actor. Wiki says this:

    Valedictorian is an academic title typically conferred in North America upon the highest ranked student among those being graduated from an educational institution. The term is an anglicized derivation of the Latin vale dicere (”to say farewell”), historically rooted in the valedictorian’s traditional role as the final speaker at the graduation ceremony. The valedictory address generally is considered a final farewell to classmates, before they disperse as a collective group in order to pursue their individual paths after being graduated.

    Unless there is another boy in HSM who graduates at the top of their class? I dont know it at all.

    @ Patty anne – I know but I don’t think the story is so much about Zac as who he’s been a-tussling with….!

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  60. ml said on May 5th, 2009 at 11:47 am

    @Keane:
    depp? was a huge druggie. trashing rooms? Viper club? Kate moss?

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  61. Keane said on May 5th, 2009 at 11:50 am

    @ ml – we’re talking about happy relationships/marriages. I don’t know for sure what their relationship is like, hence the question mark, but I have at least not heard about any philandering or closeted sexuality regarding them.

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  62. Tamara said on May 5th, 2009 at 12:20 pm

    Maggie Gyllenhaal (sp??) and Peter Saarsgard (again sp??) haha
    Michelle Wiliams and Spike Jonze

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  63. Tamara said on May 5th, 2009 at 12:23 pm

    JMO but I dont think Depp was anywhere near the druggie Moss was. Apparently his drug of choice is pot and wine. KM really loved the coke and apparently still does. She would go upstairs and lock herself in a room with her pals and do piles of coke and he would stay downstairs smoking a joint drinking wine and having some intelligent and deep conversation. I read this tid-bit somewhere and now I can’t remember where, sorry!

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  64. Keane said on May 5th, 2009 at 12:24 pm

    @ Tamara – I think they might be a bit early to judge! Michael K did a funny post on Gyllenhaal and Sarsgaard (I think that’s the spelling!) the other day. How she would be Maggie Gyllenhaal-Sarsgaard if she opted to keep her name too and that she would officially have taken all the a’s available to be used in names, and if anyone else wanted to name their kid Alice or Alissa or Alfred or whatever they would have to be told no, Maggie has taken all the a’s there are none left!

    @ HH – ooh I wonder what the Brangie story will be for tomorrow, the sex tape perhaps…???

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  65. Keane said on May 5th, 2009 at 12:27 pm

    @ Tamara – yes I think “was” can be very easily replaced with “is” with regards to Moss. I don’t think she has any intention of changing her ways for anyone. I have no idea how she’s still here to be perfectly honest. There’s that joke that if there was an apocalypse tomorrow the only life left standing would be cockroaches, Keith Richards and Kate Moss!

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  66. mooki said on May 5th, 2009 at 12:31 pm

    @Keane:
    ZE was born in ‘87

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  67. Keane said on May 5th, 2009 at 12:39 pm

    @ mooki – it might have been that then, I can’t remember, would have to check back. Which ever it was someone checked it and said that was the year Zac was born. We never really got to the bottom of that BI though….

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  68. Kate said on May 5th, 2009 at 1:08 pm

    @Keane:
    I don’t have much time right now, but Matthew Perry always wears those tan rain coats, just a thought. The remark about animals and the word leery does seem to suggest our guess of Mickey Rourke, who would not be leery of him, and wasn’t there a suggestion that SR threw out right after the Oscars that MR went home with a guy, remember that? That would be big news because of his text message saying Sean Penn is homophobic and he should have played the part in “Milk” …just thinking…how many big burly guys carry around a little dog like that. lol he is nasty looking, probably bisexual, can’t imagine why Zac would touch him though. yuk

    Now for my daily rant-

    I am so freaking sick to death of not just Lainey but the Entertainment Lawyer and his nasty little digs at Jennifer. He has to always make fun of her. There was the report that Brad was in LA for the concert and Courtney was there with David. People reported they never got near each other, while the New Post reported they chatted all night. EL of course has to have his on take on this and write up a little blurb about CC calling Jen and giving her a full report of what Brad says and how Jen got stoned. Lainey in the past has said, in your dreams will you ever have him near you again.

    I would love to be able to take that story that SUGAR RAY gave us about Brad and Jen meeting up in NYC and cram it up their butts. Problem is, can’t really understand it completely lol. It would be ever better , if she was the one that gave him the pink rope!!

    If for no other reason that to shove it down EL, Lainey, Perez, and Just Jareds , Jossip, and a few others throats who have been so nasty to Jen these past four years, it would make my day to see them reconcile, and have Brad stick up for her. Now I know there probably is not a chance in hell of that, but I can have a fantasy can’t I? Better even if that baby he told her to adopt was really his . lmao. Has there ever been anyone treated so damn unfairly in the media as Jen? regardless of what fake stories these guys have put out, she definitely got the short end of the stick.

    BTW her new Smart Water pics are beauties!

    Sorry, now back to Zac, who I know nothing about at all.

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  69. Ani said on May 5th, 2009 at 1:14 pm

    @Keane:

    it has been speculated that c. cox and d. arquette use a “cheat for a cheat” system in their marriage.

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  70. justhelping said on May 5th, 2009 at 1:18 pm

    @Kate:
    I agree about JA. I hope she has her day. Thankfully, my 10-year-old hates HSM, so I do not know much. However, I saw a video he put out on youtube. He and Nessa have a pool party and his crazy uncle shows up being rude and disgusting. Was a joke of course. But I saw it as him trying to change his image.
    Does anyone think maybe these two were arranged (ZE&VH)? IMO, yes.
    Could Macho man and Ymca mean more? Maybe a tough man and a feminine man. If indeed there are 4.

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  71. Ani said on May 5th, 2009 at 1:18 pm

    @Ani:

    it was a lainey blind from january called cabo.

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  72. Kate said on May 5th, 2009 at 1:19 pm

    @Kate:
    I meant your guess of Mickey Rourke.

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  73. Keane said on May 5th, 2009 at 1:24 pm

    @ Kate – ITA with you there, she has been treated in a disgusting way by the press and the repellant loons and it is something which has made me very angry for a long time. And it all comes down to the most superficial of reasons: she is not as “beautiful” as work of the plastic surgeon’s knife Angelina, she lost her husband to her and hasn’t had a successful, public relationship since or yet produced any children. What an utter waste of oxygen this woman is, I’m amazed no-one has suggested some sort of program of voluntary euthanasia to her seeing as she is such an abject failure as a member of the human race! Let’s instead hold up to the world a certain Ms Angelina Jolie as an example of true human perfection than shall we? Does she look hot like a porn doll and constantly brag about her sex like? Check. Does she irresponsibly add children to her short-term and in no way stable relationship (allegedly to keep her man interested)? Check. Does she shamelessly use those children to promote herself, project the image that she is such a nice person and to save her career after she wrecked another woman’s marriage? Check. Does she exploit her UN work to promote herself and present herself as the Mother Teresa/Princesss Diana figure for the new millenium? Check. Are her rumoured extra-curricular activities less than morally edifying? Check. Yes gossip bloggers of the world, may I present to you your Queen. And best of British luck to you with her. You’re all going to have a mighty amount of egg on your faces when the truth about her is revealed.

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  74. bettieboop said on May 5th, 2009 at 1:25 pm

    @Keane:
    Valedictorian just refers to Zac graduating from High School and saying farewell to his tweener image and trying to pursue his future path as a serious actor.
    I agree with you on this but what does the, indecent exposure by …., mean? Don’t you think that plays in somewhere.
    If Valedictorian is Zac did he have some type of indecent exposure incident? Or is this older man the Validictorian? I know as always I’m reaching too far.

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  75. Keane said on May 5th, 2009 at 1:28 pm

    @ Ani – sounds a bit like the nearly defunct Beckhams then, what a lovely way to conduct a relationship!

    @ justhelping – yes I think those songs are significant too. Macho man I think is another clue towards Mickey. YMCA does suggest 4 men doesn’t it too? Are the characters significant in any way? What was it again a Policeman, a Cowboy, a Red Indian and a something else? That could be completely wrong of course, I never paid much attention to them!

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  76. bettieboop said on May 5th, 2009 at 1:29 pm

    @justhelping:
    Oh yah, I think it was another arranged couple.

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  77. another me said on May 5th, 2009 at 1:29 pm

    Kate, EL snarks on EVERYONE.

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  78. Kate said on May 5th, 2009 at 1:29 pm

    @justhelping:
    Well macho man does seem to imply that, and leery implies that Zac was a little unsure of him , he was rough looking , but would not hurt and animal, and that is PETA’s moto, and MR does scream that, so imo that fits him pretty well, so he may be the 1st man, then it sounds like it goes on to a boy..then the guy in the tan coat which sounds like maybe Matthew Perry possibly, although I have never heard anything about him but who knows he may be bisexual, and the last one sounds like someone who is getting him parts, no high heels here could mean no Vanessa, or it could mean, this guy is tall, or he has taken out his lifts, who both Tommy Boy and Brad Pitt. wear….lol, but I doubt this is Brad, what about Leo..

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  79. Keane said on May 5th, 2009 at 1:29 pm

    @ bb – I took it to mean that Zac would be getting some exposure for his career through indecent activity, if that makes any sense..

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  80. Kate said on May 5th, 2009 at 1:30 pm

    oh, and Zac was mentioned in the A_Rod party scenario

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  81. bettieboop said on May 5th, 2009 at 1:33 pm

    @Keane:
    Standing Ovation.

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  82. Kate said on May 5th, 2009 at 1:33 pm

    @another me:
    Not like he does Jen, he hates her and has come right out and said he does, he adores Angelina and has come right out and said that. He makes not excuses for how much he dislikes Jen, same with Lainey, she has a whole page on her site explaining why she dislikes her. Not the blog, but it is a side page..he does not like her. He will make a snark here and there at Jolie but very rarely, he is drooling over her like JJ, jmo

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  83. bettieboop said on May 5th, 2009 at 1:34 pm

    @Keane:
    Construction worker?

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  84. vitaliy said on May 5th, 2009 at 1:34 pm

    А я балбес так и не догнал.

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  85. Kate said on May 5th, 2009 at 1:37 pm

    @Keane:
    Sadly Keane, I suspect it never will be accepted by the mainstream. No matter how it is put out there, she will have her “people” bury it….wait, watch, and see. You will not see on shred of any of this in Andrew Morton’s book. jmo. Interesting he is only doing it on her, yes? He presented Tommy Boy as straight, didn’t he, now don’t you wonder why?

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  86. bettieboop said on May 5th, 2009 at 1:46 pm

    @Keane:
    Ok.

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  87. bettieboop said on May 5th, 2009 at 1:48 pm

    @Kate:
    Perez too. Loves his little St Angie

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  88. bettieboop said on May 5th, 2009 at 1:49 pm

    @Kate:
    Were they knocking boots. LOL

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  89. bettieboop said on May 5th, 2009 at 1:53 pm

    Zachary David Alexander “Zac” Efron (born October 18, 1987) is an American actor and singer. He began acting professionally in the early 2000s, and became known to young audiences after his roles in the Disney Channel Original Movie High School Musical, the WB series Summerland, and the 2007 film version of the Broadway musical Hairspray.[1][2] Speaking to Newsweek in June 2006, director Adam Shankman described Efron as “arguably the biggest teen star in America right now.”[3] In 2007, right before the release of High School Musical 2, Rolling Stone declared him the “poster boy for tweenyboppers” and featured him in their late August 2007 issue.[4]
    Zac was in HAIRSPRAY. Anybody know what I’m thinking? Who else was that’s had the sexual oriantation questioned?

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  90. Togi said on May 5th, 2009 at 2:02 pm

    Gotta add my two cents to the pile here, folks. IMO, Zac is a young cutie pie. He’s young, he’s single and he has no children to worry about. The kid is free to live his life as he chooses. His sexuality matters not to me. Solong as he doesn’t LIE and MANIPULATE people, and as long as he is CAREFUL and SAFE, he’s not hurting anyone. So there. I feel a lot better now. :-)

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  91. bettieboop said on May 5th, 2009 at 2:07 pm

    You can tell a macho, he has a funky walk
    his western shirts and leather, always look so boss
    MR dresses like that.

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  92. bluiznsmilez said on May 5th, 2009 at 2:25 pm

    I just have to say..this post made me throw up in my mouth a little. It’s too graphic. PLUS he is very young and talking about him in a sexual way is disturbing to this older woman. And FINALLY if he is gay SO WHAT. Can’t people just be gay and be left the hell alone? Why does it have to be put in such a distasteful way as an attempt to undermine him or wreck his career. WHO CARES.

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  93. Keane said on May 5th, 2009 at 2:36 pm

    @ Kate – did it mention Zac in that orgie thang, I don’t remember that? I was also a bit dubious about the John Mayer scenario, I didn’t really see how that worked. And re: Ange, I’m not so sure actually, but I don’t think it will be the dirt that will her do for her in the end, it will be more her public behaviour that will be the problem. The exploiting of the UN work for self-promotion and the use of her children (from the last photo opp, seemingly against their will nowadays) I predict will turn around and bite her on the bum in the end. Most intelligent people can see what is going on there I would have thought. As I’ve said many times its the family unit scenario that is saving her now. The “we’re such a happy family of 8 BS”. The moment they split she won’t have that protection and the knives will come out for her you wait. She saved her career by selling her relationship with PItt as this big love and perfect family scenario. When its discovered that that family only lasted a matter of 5 years people will view her in a very different way.

    Plus she won’t be able to sell herself through her relationships any more as the public will think hm, haven’t we been here before with Brad, with BBT, with JLM, with anyone and everyone? Plus it will be so much more difficult for her to portray herself as a responsible parent if she is throwing herself into some new affair while the 6 young children feel confused about who is their real daddy. I think lots of her behaviour will come back to bite her on the bum, not her secrets or her dirt necessarily, but her public behaviour will be the problem. People aren’t stupid and i’m amazed how much they’ve sucked up all this time. And everyone has their sell-by-date, particularly women who are known for their looks. Just look at what’s happened to Nicole Kidman’s career lately. Once the looks go its over and Ange’s look like they’re on their way out. She’s also had a lot of bad press lately after her behaviour at the awards do’s, I don’t think she’s as untouchable as you think. One reporter described her as an “evil Disney Queen” – LOL! But yeah you’re right, Morton’s book will probably be co-written with her, his Diana bok was after all. JMO!

    @ bb – why thank you, kind sir (well lady, but you know what I meant!)

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  94. Keane said on May 5th, 2009 at 2:39 pm

    @ bluiznsmilez – I have to agree this post made me feel rather vomitous. But I don’t think the story is really about Zac being gay so much as who may be exploiting him in a casting couch stylee. I have to say, I thought all that casting couch BS stuff was bollocks until I read stuff on this site. Just goes to show how potentially sordid HW is behind its glossy, family-friendly facade….

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  95. Patty anne said on May 5th, 2009 at 3:14 pm

    Seems SR was on to this a year ago:

    IUC Sunday Soup: David Cassidy advises Zac Efron, Shakira Threesome, Britney’s ex behind bars, Garth Brooks Gay?, Guy Laliberte down in Cards, MC Hammer vs. Hitler…
    Posted on December 7th, 2008 by HisHighness in IUC:Bits, IUC:Entertainment
    David Cassidy? Return engagement perhaps? So many perverts in HW, that it’s difficult to figure out who is doing what to whom when… :-(

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  96. ladybert62 said on May 5th, 2009 at 3:16 pm

    @bluiznsmilez:
    Thank you for saying that. I agree.

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  97. Keane said on May 5th, 2009 at 3:27 pm

    @ Patty Anne – I have seen David Cassidy interviewed I think and if I remember correctly he was a pompous, egotistical idiot who tried to take over the whole 2 hour show (rather than his allocated 10 minutes) and make the whole thing about him. The presenters literally could not shut him up or keep ihm out of items that had nothing to do with him? Does that sound like the man in question? Is he known for wearing a long camel coat? He surely couldn’t help Zac in HW though? And what was the “Shakira threesome” I wonder, were there any more details?

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  98. Keane said on May 5th, 2009 at 3:32 pm

    Just saw this on Ted C’s page, and he would know I guess – ha ha!

    Dear Ted:
    I just love the idea of a tell-all (there may even be two?) coming out on the whole Brangelina thing. I was over them before they began (and I’m on no one’s team but my own. And Clive Owen’s). What are the chances it’ll ever see the light of day? Given how lame the Cruise “alleged” exposé was, what’s the point? Maybe he should just leak the chapters through A.T. instead—or maybe you should just collect all of your columns and publish that as the tell-all instead. It would probably be way more revealing (in addition to being way more interesting). By the way, saw that you were quoted in an ABC News article. Way to make the mainstream your bitch.
    —Rowan

    Dear Owen Lover:
    Brad and Angie know how to get Oscars, kids and good lawyers. Don’t see this one coming out anytime soon—even if Andrew Morton really does take them on. And thanks for the good vibes, babe! We know Clive would approve.

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  99. bettieboop said on May 5th, 2009 at 3:38 pm

    Anymore speculation/thought on the above riddle?

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  100. joanne said on May 5th, 2009 at 3:44 pm

    @Keane:
    They really aren’t that good at getting oscars.
    I saw CCOBB and it was good. Pitt just had one expression (to much make-up I guess) but the rest of the cast did a good job.

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  101. Alif said on May 5th, 2009 at 3:49 pm

    @Kate:
    @1:08 p.m.
    I couldn’t agree more about those slimeballs’ tx of Jen. She apparently has chosen to take the high road through all this. But I’m very annoyed with Brad’s lack of testosterone in not defending her, heretofore!

    Entertainment Lawyer (CDaN) really messed with his readers on at least one occasion. One happened over a year ago, when he led his readers on and on, with a blind about an actress who was really a man. One reader suggested Timmy, the imposter, should be called Shimmy. So, he was thereafter labeled, Timmy/Shimmy. Turned out the b/i was a farce. Some readers devoted days of research into the clues, and most came up with the actress, Alice Brady. Alice Brady was an esteemed blonde actress from the ’30’s.
    Wo! were the readers p d at ET! Some of us never went back to the site. Couldn’t trust him/her!

    Perez Hilton (yeccch!) solemnly declared that Fidel Castro had died. This was over a year ago, according to a post from a reader. I don’t check his site. Perhaps I should; but the penis/semen doodles over celeb photos was too perverted.

    Lainey, jmo! is uninteresting! And I feel like I’m still overrating her, when I say this.

    Just Jared had the same effect on me, as Lainey.
    There are too many interesting things to research on the internet. Why should I waste my time on fugly bloogers? STILL, am glad someone does, so the rest of us can boost Jen, and speak out every time those slimeballs whack at her, when she hasn’t done a d–n thing to them, personally.
    I know; they just want the hits!

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  102. Keane said on May 5th, 2009 at 4:09 pm

    @ joanne – yes that’s what I thought, nor children so much nowadays thank the Lord! I think Ted may be living in some sort of Twilight-based fantasy existence nowadays, he seems to have lost his edge. So all in all Brange have a talent for getting good lawyers, which mean that they have a lot of cash. Hey, everyone’s good at something right?!

    @ Kate/Alif – I was just reading a bit over at Lainey to see what the fuss was all about as I have never darkened her door before and all I can say is she comes across as a deeply bitter, twisted and deluded human being to be perfectly honest. Its like woah there Lainey! Have you ever considered discussing any of these feelings with a therapist?! I mean Jesus, the hate towards inoffensive celebs like Aniston and Jessica Biel is intense man, and I thought I hated Angelina Jolie! She makes me look like a devoted fan!! Lol. And who on earth would actually enjoy reading that diatribe? She’s just spewing hate at people for no particular reason, left, right and centre, even Jolie at times. Good lord, I feel like I need to go and watch Bambi or something to recover from the 5 minutes I spent over there! Oh no here’s that twee popstrel Taylor Swift on the tellybox, that will probably have to do! As an aside can anyone tell me why this broad is famous (not on the strength of this turdy Romeo & Juliet song surely?) and what on earth she’s doing on a reputable music programme in the UK? We’ve had Miley Cyrus please don’t send us another one for the love of God, there’s only so much cutesy tween angst I can take without depsiting my dinner on the living room floor (sorry for the visual, but this chick is offending my eardrums, grrr!!!!).

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  103. Keane said on May 5th, 2009 at 4:12 pm

    And on another question to keep us occupied type tip: can we think of any men or women in HW otherwise who we would put money on being definitely straight? This is a tricky one I know but I’m putting it out there. I am going to chance my arm with Reese Witherspoon for one. She seems way too uptight to like the vadge no?!

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  104. Alif said on May 5th, 2009 at 4:12 pm

    @Kate:
    @1:37
    Little Tommy is famous for litigation toward any party that dares quesion his 100% heterosexuality!
    However, one of the Village People, the “construction worker” , claims that Tommy serviced him on one occasion. No suit followed.

    To others: JMO! Matthew Perry has too low self-esteem! He is actually a talented, charismatic actor. And very smart! Yet, he lets himself go.
    Saw him last week on a late show. He has big bags under his eyes. His hair was his saving point at that time. It took away from the negativity of his appearance.
    I know; he’s a survivor of an addiction that nearly killed him. He almost lost his role as Chandler Bing, on “Friends” because of his bloated appearance.
    He apparently has an ongoing tx for his problems. He probably realizes that he can’t go out again. If he does, he may never return.
    Maybe that’s why he doesn’t think about being more presentable as a star. Love him; but that’s jmo!

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  105. mooki said on May 5th, 2009 at 4:13 pm

    @bluiznsmilez:

    he’s 21! that’s not young at all…. if you’re a celeb.

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  106. Keane said on May 5th, 2009 at 4:20 pm

    @ Alif – that’s hilarious, I wonder if that’s the connection then with the YMCA and the no high heels here…..!

    ITA about Matthew Perry BTW. I actually think that all of the Friends cast apart from Courteney Cox were great comedic actors (Aniston included). They all had great comic timing which you can’t fake, you’ve either got it or you ain’t. If I I’ve said it once I’ve said it a hundred times, comic acting is way more difficult than dramatic, which is why a certain fave actress of mine has never done it, nor could manage it for toffee in my mind. Although her performance with Colin Farrell in Alexander I admit was a comedy classic of modern cinema, just not sure it was intended that way though….! If you haven’t seen any of it I urge you to look it up on Youtube. With Farrell’s blonde wig and Jolie’s non-specific “European” accent you might as well be watching Carry on Cleopatra or something, its hysterical!

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  107. Kate said on May 5th, 2009 at 4:22 pm

    @Keane:
    Can Rowan kiss his but any more than he did…what ever the hell happened to free speech, a person can[’t write a freaking book about someone if they want too, sure they can, as long as it is true.

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  108. Keane said on May 5th, 2009 at 4:34 pm

    @ Kate – ha ha yeah! There’s no way on God’s earth that Brangelina have enough money or good enough lawyers to keep every potential tell-all about them quiet for eternity. Even if they manage it over the next 3 or 4 years, they won’t be able to stop it forever, and just wait until the kids are old enough to talk about their upbringing. Let’s just see what happens then! At the end of the day Brangelina agressively pursued their “most-famous-couple-in-the-world-status” and they will reap the consequences of that, good and bad. They’ve exploited the gossip rags for their own ends, and in turn they will get exploited back. At the end of the day no tabloid ever has personal loyalty to a star, they only have a loyalty to their bottom line, and what has sold their publications in the thousands in the last few years will ultimately sell even more copies when it comes to lifting the lid on what was going on behind the scenes. They are more famous than even Tom Cruise ever was at his peak, there’s no way they’ll be able to keep the stories down. JMO.

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  109. Tamara said on May 5th, 2009 at 4:48 pm

    @bettieboop:Well, IMO you might be alluding to John Travolta? He has been dodging gay rumours forever, and he was in Hairspray with Zac, but that was many years ago, but still…he definitely has the HW clout to help out young Zac, but not sure if Zac really needs a boost cos he’s hot in the HW scene right now. Apologize if someone has already posted this, couldnt read all the way thru.

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  110. Kate said on May 5th, 2009 at 4:55 pm

    @Keane:
    First, they can not stop a book from being written or being published if the person did not work for them. A writer has the right to write about anyone they want to. Just trot on down to the library and check out out the books written on people far more famous than these two whores. They have no right to demand that the writer put up in advance what they are going to write about, none…all they can do is wait until it is published and then sue them if they feel they havel been wronged. For cripes sake, is Ted a complete idiot. What if you or I wanted to write a book and self publish it, we were millionaires, and it hit the stands
    and becomes a bestseller the first week and these two morons have no idea about the book until some loon buys it and reads it and calls their lawyer, then what, they are going to go around the country and do a recall. lmao. Again, is Ted a freaking idiot for cripes sake? If you are sure of your facts and they can be supported then you are in the clear, but they are not even going to know that until the book is published, and a smart person would not leak any of it.

    IAN, am I wrong about this?

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  111. bettieboop said on May 5th, 2009 at 5:00 pm

    @Tamara:
    No you are the first. I don’t know how hot he is because I don’t really follow him but he wanted to be taken as more of a serious actor now & when you’re coming off Disney I would think an established actor could really get him out there. Not saying Disney isn’t established, meaning an adult actor. Am I making sense or just digging myself in?
    I was wondering what happen to everybody & if all of a sudden they were going a differnent direction.

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  112. bettieboop said on May 5th, 2009 at 5:03 pm

    It seems to be going to AJ & BP. I realize this was put @ the bottom but nothing new yet.
    IUC UPDATE: Breaking Brangie Story Manana!

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  113. Keane said on May 5th, 2009 at 5:17 pm

    gulping milkshake…no ambition to get dressed…velvety eyes…second motion…camel-colored cloth coat…

    I think this bit is a clue to who Zac is having a dalliance with, but I have no idea what it means.

    “no ambition to get dressed” – what is that?

    Does this help?

    What are “velvety eyes” – does it mean brown or dark eyes? drunk eyes?

    second motion – is this physics again, the “second law of motion”:

    Newton’s second law of motion pertains to the behavior of objects for which all existing forces are not balanced. The second law states that the acceleration of an object is dependent upon two variables – the net force acting upon the object and the mass of the object. The acceleration of an object depends directly upon the net force acting upon the object, and inversely upon the mass of the object. As the force acting upon an object is increased, the acceleration of the object is increased. As the mass of an object is increased, the acceleration of the object is decreased.

    The acceleration of an object as produced by a net force is directly proportional to the magnitude of the net force, in the same direction as the net force, and inversely proportional to the mass of the object.

    Or is it to “second a motion” in a parliamentary sense? The second voice required to give support to a motion so it will be considered?

    I will leave you to think on that, goodnight all!

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  114. bettieboop said on May 5th, 2009 at 5:20 pm

    @Keane:
    Lainey really is nasty.

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  115. bettieboop said on May 5th, 2009 at 5:32 pm

    @Keane:
    no ambition to get dressed. well for me after really good sex I’m relaxed feeling really good, getting dressed is not my first priority. but that’s me
    velvety eyes. luscious, rich eyes.
    second motion. I’m not big into physics (thanks for the crash course). in a parliamentary sense; say yeh or ney. voting. Is the person he’s romping with voting or the person watching?
    Could also mean no ambition to put clothes on because they’re going for round 2.

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  116. AnonyMan said on May 5th, 2009 at 5:41 pm

    Could the older man be Alec Baldwin? The Village People reference reminded me of Studio 54 where AB hung out in the ’70s, and there have been rumors of AB being non-straight (with young (but legal) men) floating around for a long time. I’m sure he also has many connections in H’wood and NY which would be attractive to an up and coming actor.

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  117. Patty anne said on May 5th, 2009 at 8:06 pm

    I doubt very much that John Travolta is gay. I’ve met him , and have run into him during the wee early morning hours at a local (Ocala, Florida) coffee shop. He’s always respectful, and a gentleman to everyone. He’s Italian, and they are very demonstrative with people they care about, i have an aunt who is Sicilian who shares this same quality. I can say i have never seen him make a pass at male or female, he wears his wedding ring in the open. JMO of course@Tamara:

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  118. Sheriffe said on May 5th, 2009 at 8:27 pm

    @bettieboop:
    She also acts as if Nicole Kidman stole her high school boyfriend. Take the anti-Angelina sentiment from here, multiply it by that expressed over at FF, double it, and you have some idea of Lainey’s hatred of Kidman.

    Personally I don’t understand why she gets so riled about innocuous actresses like Kidman or Aniston.

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  119. bettieboop8 said on May 5th, 2009 at 9:34 pm

    @Sheriffe:
    Perhaps she has some “deal” with AJ.

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  120. ffleur said on May 5th, 2009 at 11:18 pm

    Hi everyone

    @Keane:“on hiatus” is a totally legit term. Its used all the time in the TV industry. It just means the period between seasons. Maybe its not used in England?

    @ Patty Ann: I’m afraid John Travolta is very much gay. He is a nice man and was sort of forced into his marriage when a gay scandal was about to erupt. He and Kelly are both Scientologists and I truly believe they care about each other but have an “open” marriage. I feel very sad for them right now. With the death of their son, anti-depressants and therapy could really help them cope. $cieno believes any mental “problems” can be solved with exercise, saunas and vitamins. I think JT is deeply depressed. He and his wife have been recluses since their son’s death. There have a ton of eye witnesses, pictures and blind vices about John T’s proclivities.

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  121. ffleur said on May 5th, 2009 at 11:19 pm

    @ffleur: and all of this is just my opinion.

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  122. Alif said on May 6th, 2009 at 1:16 am

    @Keane:
    @4:20p.m.
    It does sound like it. Over a year ago, Defamer.com did a hard-hitting expose of Tommy. Something happened in the interim. Did Scientology threaten Defamer? There are several players who have suffered mysterious deaths, or had to get out of town, once they were in the process of exposing Tommy.
    Since then, Defamer.com must have changed hands. The web site seems so tame nowadays! jmo!

    When I saw Colin Farrell in “In Bruges”, I became a “fan”. I went back to see it, twice, and told anyone who would listen that this was a must-see! (The only thing I hated was the bashing of the blonde woman; so unnecessary!) So i bought “The New World” and “Tigerland”
    I’ll be sure to catch the YouTube clip. Guilty pleasure, re: YouTube: game show contestants’ bloopers.

    How does one write and tell Matthew Perry to glam up, please?

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  123. karenab said on May 6th, 2009 at 2:47 am

    @Alif:
    I agree Alif, I always thought MP was the funniest one on Friends – great timing. And I loved him on Studio 60. Such a shame we dont see more of him, and he doesnt get himself together. JMO

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  124. Liin said on May 6th, 2009 at 6:43 am

    Straight person – Tori Spelling?!?

    @ Alif – agree with your Defamer comments, I have noticed that Scientology must have done a lot of gagging recently, apart from Anonymous – keep up the good works guys.
    Ps Thats how I found this site, my interest in Scientology brought me here, (or should I say my interest in bringin scientology down brought me here…….. she says looking over her shoulder LOL.

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  125. Keane said on May 6th, 2009 at 7:54 am

    @ ffleur – no it definitely isn’t used in the UK, I guess that’s whay the presenters were like uh what are you talking about? In the UK a “hiatus” means a gap or break between proceedings, but you don’t say we’re on “hiatus” like you say we’re on leave or on holiday or something. Brit actors who come back from the states using American lingo or even with a bit of an accent are usually ripped mercilessly in the media. We don’t like it when a Brit goes all “Hollywood” on us at all!

    @ Alif – what is Defamer.com about, I’ve never heard of it?

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  126. Keane said on May 6th, 2009 at 7:56 am

    Oh and I think I have another straight person, not really HW but she’s a celebrity: Shannon Docherty? She looks strictly dickly to me, which is a shame because I think she is gorgeous (and yes I know she’s supposed to be a bitch but you can’t help who you fancy!).

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  127. Liin said on May 6th, 2009 at 8:03 am

    Shannon – yes def a mans woman…
    Another straighty – Nicole Ritchie? Meg Ryan – umm dont know though

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  128. Alif said on May 7th, 2009 at 1:11 am

    @Keane:
    It’s a web site based in Los Angeles. It used to be very intriguing (couple yrs ago) and did stories on scientology and the actors involved with it. But a lot more, as well!

    Then something happened. They either changed hands or were threatened big time. As we know the cult has been involved in mysterious murders, “suicides”, power plays re: stars/starlets, etc!
    Recently it became rather tame. The change was very noticeable, imo!
    It’s the same as Gawker.com.
    JMO both sites will only post comments they agree with, or can tolerate. Ultra-liberal views.

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  129. KeHoeff said on May 28th, 2009 at 4:50 pm

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