Sugar Ray Ramone Catone (The Bronx Bi-Blogger) – Jennifer Aniston Likes Short Skirts

Posted on April 6th, 2009 by HisHighness in IUC:Entertainment, IUC:Exclusive

Defiant and all-powerful…bogus marriage…mounted picador…distracted by the thought…some string-pulling…doodled for Paulina…hugged Amber…kissed Doreen…sweet, innocent love…continued the training at home…skirts swept up…something very tender and profound…initiation in two more mysteries…completed the drawings…bulldyke…blessings with her left hand…metaphysical quality…precarious balance…hermaphrodite…painter of intimate pictures…right down to her red beard…likes to poke fun of his “doting” mother of six…a few pesetas…inglorious end…theknife of the gypsy…bleak, black period…craves for intellectual milk…the odd cabaret…applauded farces…process of assimilating it…instantly mesmerized…like a racehorse reined in…nevertheless beholden to no one and owed them nothing…doble cara…farsante…traidor…El backstabereroooeroo!!

                                                                             Te Amo, SRRC

  1. Billi said on April 6th, 2009 at 2:05 pm

    Kate – where are you? This one I can’t even guess what it’s about.

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  2. hughes said on April 6th, 2009 at 2:17 pm

    …blah blah blah…these posts are a waste of time.

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  3. dilbo said on April 6th, 2009 at 2:19 pm

    i think she is impling aniston likes the ladies lol

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  4. Angie's Fax Machine said on April 6th, 2009 at 3:07 pm

    doble cara = two faced
    farsante = fraud
    traidor = traitor
    pesetas = coins (Mexican)
    picador = prick, someone who pricks (a bull, for instance, to weaken its neck)

    Not understanding much of this, but I’m guessing that perhaps Brad and Jen engaged in threesomes. Or perhaps he made her do it, but she ended up enjoying it. Who knows.

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  5. Angie's Fax Machine said on April 6th, 2009 at 3:09 pm

    Jen was stabbed in the back. Someone got a portrait done. Angelina is getting made fun of.

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  6. maggiethecat said on April 6th, 2009 at 3:13 pm

    Wut?

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  7. Fan said on April 6th, 2009 at 3:27 pm

    @Angie’s Fax Machine:

    Brad liked threesomes and then some; he wanted to do this with AJ and Jen. Jen said NO WAY Jose. Then he stabbed her in the back.

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  8. MMF said on April 6th, 2009 at 3:39 pm

    HUH???

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  9. R. Catone said on April 6th, 2009 at 3:41 pm

    Girlfriends are getting warmer…te amo…

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  10. Kate said on April 6th, 2009 at 3:45 pm

    There was a painting of the three of them in a threesome, the girls were both pissed off about it, but Brad liked it.

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  11. Kate said on April 6th, 2009 at 3:46 pm

    I remember that painting, I saw it once.

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  12. Angie's Fax Machine said on April 6th, 2009 at 3:47 pm

    @Fan:
    Oh shit! That is so fucking wrong. He must’ve been boning AJ already when he asked for the 3some.

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  13. Fan said on April 6th, 2009 at 3:51 pm

    @Angie’s Fax Machine:

    He was, and the painting was a fake.

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  14. Keane said on April 6th, 2009 at 3:52 pm

    Hm this is complicated. I’m guessing the “defiant and all-powerful” is Brad and means that he was in control of the marriage. He wanted to experiment sexually back then and managed to talk her into it. I’m not sure what is meant by the “bogus marriage”, maybe that it wasn’t as faithful and straightforward as it seems, I had heard that about Brad at least. I think the names refer to models Paulina Porizkova is it, Amber Valletta and the third one I don’t know. There was a story about Brange and PP so it may have been true after all. Brad pulled some strings, got these women to come round and gradually initiated Jen into it, but it was much more innocent and tender than the raunchy threesomes he’s had with Ange. I’m not sure what the 2 other mysteries are, maybe oral and anal sex? I think the drawing stuff is a metaphor for sex and “completed the drawings” means she went ahead and did it in full with a woman. I have no idea what this bit refers to:

    “metaphysical quality…precarious balance…hermaphrodite…painter of intimate pictures…right down to her red beard” – a hermaphrodite reproduces on its own, and the “red beard” refers to someone who she is bearding for or is bearding for her I think but I have no idea who.

    She likes to make fun of Angelina. Then I think it goes back in time to when Angelina stabbed her in the back by stealing Brad. This is totally off the wall, and I’m probably completely wrong, but is there a suggestion that Brad, Jen and Ange had a threesome and that Ange stabbed her in the back by having sex with him on her own and eventually stealing him? I don’t know, just a crazy guess. Then its obviously Jen’s depression and I think the “odd cabaret” and “applauded farces” refer to maybe a few shags she had in private and her public boyfriends who were all fakes. Then I assume the rest is about Jen, but I’m not sure what it refers to, and then that last line: “two-faced…fraud…traitor….backstabber”, does that mean how Jen feels about Ange. What is the secret here, were the three of them involved? I am just widly guessing but otherwise I’m not sure what it could possibly mean.

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  15. Angie's Fax Machine said on April 6th, 2009 at 3:58 pm

    @Kate:
    Was the painting featured online? Never heard of this painting. How did you see it?

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  16. Angie's Fax Machine said on April 6th, 2009 at 4:01 pm

    I think BP is the one who stabbed JA in the back. He probably suggested the threesome, and if what Keane says is correct, then they did engage (BP, AJ, and JA). BP promised he wouldn’t let it affect the marriage, but he ended up leaving JA for AJ. JA feels betrayed by her husband.

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  17. Keane said on April 6th, 2009 at 4:10 pm

    @ AFM – I don’t know if that’s true, I’m just guessing. It sounds to me like Jen considers Angie a traitor, backstabber and double-crosser, now that means they had to be in league together somehow in the first place right? And with all the lead up which I’m pretty sure is Brad trying to initiate Jen into having threesomes with some hot models (wonder if they were paid, its not incommon, is that something to do with the “few pesetas reference, did they pay Angie?, I’m guessing wildly here!). So why link that to the eventual betrayal, it has to mean something like that right? Where is FBI junior detective Kate?!

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  18. Kate said on April 6th, 2009 at 4:12 pm

    Brad was in control , everyone knew that, it was out there he wanted threesomes with Jen, Ted released the info on the anal sex pictures long time ago. Jen was seen kissing other girls often when she was drunk at the Mexican restaurant they hung out in and when Brad was out of town filming some paps got pics but she paid them off. That was revealed by a pap a few years ago. Let’s break it down and try to fill in all the blanks-

    Defiant and all-powerful-Brad in control of the marriage
    …bogus marriage- the marriage was not what the public thought, more open
    …mounted picador-prick – maybe anal sex
    …distracted by the thought—–?
    …some string-pulling——?
    …doodled for Paulina—–threesome of she just played around with her
    …hugged Amber—no real sex with her, just affection
    …kissed Doreen–same here, we know Jen tried girls, she did not like it
    …sweet, innocent love—-I think this is her love for Brad
    …continued the training at home…—-Brad wanting threesomes at home or him and his anal sex with Jen
    skirts swept up–bringing more girls home to share
    …something very tender and profound——-?????
    …initiation in two more mysteries…????????
    completed the drawings———of Jen and Angelina….
    …bulldyke…—-that is pretty clear but who is that?????
    blessings with her left hand…———-????? lol
    metaphysical quality———
    …precarious balance——–
    …hermaphrodite——reproduces its own , this may allude to where Ian keeps say Jen is asexual
    …painter of intimate pictures
    …right down to her red beard– well if Brad was bisexual she was bearding for him somewhat
    …likes to poke fun of his “doting” mother of six…-Angelina
    a few pesetas…-coins

    Does it at this point start a new topic on Brad? If it is then this is what I think—if not I have to go back–

    inglorious end…-his has ended filming on IB
    theknife of the gypsy…-Angleina throwing knives at him
    bleak, black period-a dark time-this is a very dark time for him
    …craves for intellectual milk-he is craving the sophisticated woman
    …the odd cabaret-their entire lifestyle
    …applauded farces–he was in support of all this fake shit
    …process of assimilating it—-he is trying to figure out how blend it and get out at the same time
    …instantly mesmerized-he was by the new woman
    …like a racehorse reined in-the new woman has him gaga
    …nevertheless beholden to no one and owed them nothing…-Brad does not feel he is beholden to his family or that he owes Angelina and the kids anything.
    doble cara- two faced
    …farsante…???
    traidor- traitor
    …El backstabereroooeroo!!—back stabber

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  19. Fan said on April 6th, 2009 at 4:14 pm

    @Keane:

    “right down to her red beard” refers to a more intimate part of the anatomy. Jen’s natural hair color is red/brown. And so it was in the painting.

    Brad “two-faced…fraud…traitor….backstabber”, but really it could be both. It was Jen that was head over heals, Brad never was, never is. Age old error in judgment, she thought she could change him. She really was devastated, never thought he could do that to her.

    How we doin RC?

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  20. Kate said on April 6th, 2009 at 4:15 pm

    @Angie’s Fax Machine:
    There was a sketch of it, or a picture of it with an article about it. I thought he was such an asshole for that. He thought it was funny.

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  21. Canuck said on April 6th, 2009 at 4:21 pm

    Could a “red beard” refer to a natural redhead (everywhere)?

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  22. cuze said on April 6th, 2009 at 4:21 pm

    Probably way off.. but does any of this have anything to do with children? I’m not reading the sex part into anything here. Has Jen meant Shiloh and Zahara?

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  23. Canuck said on April 6th, 2009 at 4:24 pm

    And in the Muslim faith, the “left hand” is unclean.

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  24. Fan said on April 6th, 2009 at 4:24 pm

    Oh, and AJ thought she could change him too. Funny in a perverse sort of way.

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  25. joanne said on April 6th, 2009 at 4:26 pm

    I thought I read something about a Jolie/Pitt/Karolina KurkovaI threesome that was later denied.

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  26. Canuck said on April 6th, 2009 at 4:27 pm

    farsante means fake, phony, fraud

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  27. Kate said on April 6th, 2009 at 4:27 pm

    @Kate:
    Or if this is the Inglorious End to his marriage —-

    inglorious end…-mariage
    theknife of the gypsy…-Angleina
    bleak, black period-a dark time-this is a very dark time for Jen
    …craves for intellectual milk-he is craving this, Angis offered that also, huninatarian, Clinton Initiative, etc
    …the odd cabaret-something differeent
    …applauded farces–he was in support of all this fake shit
    …process of assimilating it—-he blended himself into while he was with Jen
    …instantly mesmerized- by Angelina
    …like a racehorse reined in- Jolie just had to look in his direction ans he was hers
    …nevertheless beholden to no one and owed them nothing…-Brad does not feel he is beholden to his wife or his family
    doble cara- Brad is two faced to everyone including the public, Jen, his parents
    …farsante…???-he is a fraud
    traidor- traitor-he is a traitor
    …El backstabereroooeroo!!—back stabber-he is a backstabber

    That is probalby more likely since it is about Jen, but none of this is new, so I am a little confused. It has been out there a long long time that Brad brought home girls and wanted Jen to do threesomes , that he was mesemerized that he is a fraud, two faced etxc.

    So this must be wrong. The only thing new would be if Jen was a willing partner and Brad was completley gay and so is she and it was a fake marriage from the start, but that makes no sense because this woman is truly mental stunted in her love for him and seems to want him back. But who knows. I know in the beginning they had a very wild time of it at their home, lot of very sexty wild nights.

    Things went bad when he wanted to bring others in, or so “they” say. lol

    Not sure it matters now though, if this is true, why in the hell would she “do whatever it takes to get him back?”

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  28. Keane said on April 6th, 2009 at 4:32 pm

    “like a racehourse reined in” – I think means that he is chomping at the bit to get at this new woman, but he is hemmed in by the weight of expectation around family Brangelina. He can’t break free and be with who he has fallen for because of the mess he’s got himself into, a mess of his own making. What do you think the “few pesetas” bit is referring to though Kate. To me its something to do with a financial transaction. Someone paid someone for something, not sure who or what though.

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  29. Angie's Fax Machine said on April 6th, 2009 at 4:32 pm

    Well, BP and JA were bearding for each other, then I suggest JA hook up with Mariska Hargitay. That would be an even hotter pairing than Brangelina. ;) That’ll blow’em out of the water… attention-wise. And we know how BP and AJ just LOOOOOVE attention. hehehehe

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  30. Angie's Fax Machine said on April 6th, 2009 at 4:34 pm

    @Keane:
    Perhaps Plan B. Didn’t JA give up her part of the ownership? A Mighty Heart was supposed to be JA’s also… that could be a backstabbing all on its own.

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  31. Keane said on April 6th, 2009 at 4:40 pm

    Ah its a metaphor of a bullfight isn’t it. Brad is the picador – all powerful and defiant. He is mounted on Jen, his horse. Trying to train her to get into the sexual things he wants to do. The bulldyke I think is Ange. The “inglorious end”, it was the bull, Ange, that won, not Jen the horse. Now he is stabbing Ange in the back the way he did Jen? Just throwing these thoughts out there.

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  32. Keane said on April 6th, 2009 at 4:42 pm

    @ AFM – yes the backstabbing bit, the end bit I think refers to Brad now, and he is like a racehorse wanting to race into his new relationship but is reined in by the family man image he’s created.

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  33. Kate said on April 6th, 2009 at 4:42 pm

    @Keane:
    So do you think the 2nd half is about Brad now, or Brad then, I worked it up both ways, could work eithe way, makes sense both ways, at first I thought now…though…

    Maybe they need to sort out finances that are mixed up. I would think custody would be more important, but not one reference to that.

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  34. Keane said on April 6th, 2009 at 4:44 pm

    He’s about to stab Ange and the kids in the back the way her did Jen. The only responsibility he feels is to himself.

    @ Kate – I at least did not know about the Jen threesomes, and I doubt many people do either. Think that’s just your connections which have helped you know that, am sure that’s not known in the wider world at all.

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  35. Canuck said on April 6th, 2009 at 4:44 pm

    Is there some Spanish/Hispanic thing going on in there somewhere? SR is using a lot of Spanish terms here, much more than usual.

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  36. Canuck said on April 6th, 2009 at 4:47 pm

    @Keane:
    It could also be that he has enlisted Jen to help him get out of this mess, image wise. She thinks there is a future in it, since she still loves him. He’s just using her and will stab her in the back as soon as he is clear.

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  37. Keane said on April 6th, 2009 at 4:53 pm

    @ Canuck – ah yes, that would make sense, I think you’ve hit the nail on the head there.

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  38. Keane said on April 6th, 2009 at 5:02 pm

    @Keane:
    That makes sense, that is always what I heard, that the wanted threesomes,etc. He was angry when they split, and many felt he still really loved Jen and was punishing her for not going along with him,IDK if that is true, just a prevailing feeling I heard often when he shit on her with the W magazine and allowed people to think it was over not having kids.

    I want to say this about the -hermaphrodite- Ian mentioned an editor of a NY magazine told him that Jen could not ever have kids. I wonder if she ever told them that off the record, if it was a birth defect???

    Know what I am getting at?

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  39. Kate said on April 6th, 2009 at 5:09 pm

    This is all I could find, this says a sculpture, but at one time someone had a drawing online of what it was suppose to look like-

    The artist, a budding Rodin named Daniel Edwards, is said to be hard at work getting the “X-rated” piece ready to unveil. A highly dubious source (this person knows all three stars and their reactions to the rumored sculpture?) told the London Daily Star:

    “(Jolie and Aniston) are horrified by the work and will go to any lengths to prevent it from being exhibited. That includes teaming up against Daniel. But Brad doesn’t seem to be bothered by the threesome portrayal at all.”
    Hm, the two most popular actresses in America. Bitter enemies banding together to fight a man depicting the two of them engaged in sexual activity. The man caught between them bemused, unconcerned, possibly titillated. This sounds suspiciously like the wishful thinking of, oh, every heterosexual male ever. Or a cable thriller called Night Possession.
    http://www.celebnewswire.com/2006/09/brangelaniston.html#more

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  40. Keane said on April 6th, 2009 at 5:10 pm

    Ok check this out, in the Hindu faith there is a goddess they worship called Mata. Mata has nine “avatars”. One of these avatars is called Brahamcharini. This is what it says about her:

    Here “Brahma” means meditation. That is, the Goddess is the meditator or a practitioner of penance. She is seen here holding a string of rosary beads in her right hand and a Kamandalu (an urn containing holy water) in her left hand. In her previous life, when she was reborn as the daughter of Himalaya, she performed severe penance to have Mahadeva as her husband. The sage God Narada advised her to take up meditation to win Shiva. For undergoing strict meditation she was known as Brahmacharini or Tapasyacharini.

    This form of Durga gives the devotees everlasting success. Worship of this appearance enriches the faculties of sacrifice, honesty and self-discipline. In times of utter distress the worship of this form gives success and the willpower to come out victorious.

    This may not be what SR is referring to, but he is definitely referring to something religious (”metaphysical quality”). I think Jen is the person who is redeeming Brad and allowing him to do penance for his sins, but it is a “precarious balance” as he has fallen for someone else and Jen is asexual these days. Brad is beholden to no-one and he will be a traitor to Jen and stab her in the back again. He has fallen for this new intellectual, but at the moment has to rein himself in to keep Jen onside and playing ball.

    Something like this?

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  41. Kate said on April 6th, 2009 at 5:16 pm

    @Keane:
    We don’t know he really fell for anyone gaga , Ian said he was not 100 percent on that story and we never were updated…we think he may be spending 15 each week on hookers but are not positive that is him, but if it is, and seems likely, why isn’t he just banging his gaga girl?

    If he is setting Jen up to be backstabbed again, please someone warn this blesses sweet fool. No I don’t think he would get away with that again with his parents…remember that conversation about …we liked Jen…mom and dad worried…

    I also do not believe Jen is asexual, she has had past relationships with other men, she was engaged prior to Brad.

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  42. Keane said on April 6th, 2009 at 5:17 pm

    Or he could mean Jen is Tara from the Buddhist faith:

    She is green in color with one face and two hands with the feet drawn in. Her right hand is stretched out over the right knee with the palm in the gesture of supreme generosity. The left hand is in the gesture of granting refuge, with the thumb and ring finger touching and holding the stem of an utpala, a blue lotus flower, which reaches up to her left shoulder. The utpala in Tara’s hand has three flowers. One of these is still a bud, one is fully blossomed, and one is slightly dried up.

    In this way you should then feel that you have received the blessings of the enlightened form, the body of Holy Tara, and as a result of that, the effects of previous misdeeds and sinful actions done in the past is removed.

    Brad is using Jen as a refuge and to do penance for his sins, but he will stab her in the back again like he did the first time.

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  43. Keane said on April 6th, 2009 at 5:20 pm

    @ Kate – I think he means asexual now, as opposed to before. Maybe she gets off on drawing rudey pictures these days, of herself even? Not actually having sex with anyone. And who is “bulldyke” referring to? It has to be someone, sounds like Jen to me, and put that together with the title. Has she had all these fake relationships since Brad because she’s more into women these days and the only man she still has feelings for is Brad so she is waiting for him.

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  44. p said on April 6th, 2009 at 5:40 pm

    blessings with her left hand — AJ left handed? Blessings can mean ANYTHING….i don’t know.

    metaphysical quality…precarious balance…hermaphrodite — sound like AJ

    inglorious end…to AJ/BP relationship? It could be either but I think it’s Brang.

    eroooeroo!! — wolf sounds. There’s a book about women “Runs With The Wolves” Jen is free to run now. They all are actually huh?

    picture– For a moment I thought it was a JA reference since she’s an artist.

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  45. Fan said on April 6th, 2009 at 5:48 pm

    @Keane:
    Gotta part with you here, Fake relationships, boohocky, she is dating. VV was a perfect rebound and John, well, a walk on the wild side, she will get over it.
    How would anyone’s dating hold up under this kind of ( vicious ) scrutiny..

    Asexual..NOT…

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  46. Canuck said on April 6th, 2009 at 5:50 pm

    The referral to Jen being asexual could be in the sense that she had found the person who became (or filled in) the “blank face in her fantasies”. In the sense of “I knew that person existed in my desires, but never realized it was you until we met” kind of way. That sort of thing is likely to ruin your sex life if that person disappears from it, because they embody your fantasies. And once that happens, those fantasies and the underlying desires lose their power because they have become inextricably entangled with that person.

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  47. Canuck said on April 6th, 2009 at 5:53 pm

    @ R Catone

    LOL, hon, you changed the headline on this, didn’t you? mouah, that’s a clue!

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  48. Kate said on April 6th, 2009 at 5:53 pm

    Part 1 Inglorious End of Brangelina (we can tweak this as we go along or if SR says it is off, anyone can change it or add to it, this is just the last half)

    It is the end of the inglorious brange, the knife of the gypsy Angie has been thrown once time too many, Brad is in a dark place, he is depresed, he has a craving to be around those with more intellect, maybe the woman who made him gaga with the political ties to D.C, he is tired of the odd cabaret life he has lived even though he has supported and cheeredon this fraud they have put out for the masses, he now is in the process of trying to ssimilate into a more mainstream life, he was instantly mesmerized by Miss Gaga or Mr Obama and company. he is like a racehorse chomping at the bit, Trevor is having a hard time probably holding him back, he does not care he is not beholend to anyone, not even his family, not Angelina, dare we ask his kids? he feels he owes them nothing? hopefully that is just Angie, he is a double crosser, a fraud, a traitor, a backstabber, he just wants out, to got, and feelst stuck right..because of his family…

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  49. p said on April 6th, 2009 at 5:59 pm

    @Canuck:
    What was it before?

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  50. Canuck said on April 6th, 2009 at 6:00 pm

    OK, Threesomes with Jen, Brad and another woman, could be that the two other mysteries are other types, 2 men and Jen, Jen and two other women while BP watched.

    Blessings with left hand = cursed. Left hand is unclean or unlucky

    Inglorious end…the knife of the gypsy. Was she cutting herself by the time he finished filmed Inglorious Bastards? She was wearing outfits in Germany on the Red Carpet that basically covered her from head to toe. Ditto for some of her Red Carpet outfits, aka, the backwards blue dress and the almost identical grey sack a couple of weeks earlier.

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  51. Canuck said on April 6th, 2009 at 6:02 pm

    @p:
    Not sure, but I didn’t notice the Jennifer Aniston short skirts when this was first posted, did you?

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  52. Canuck said on April 6th, 2009 at 6:07 pm

    @R Catone Is the cabaret reference in the American sense, aka mostly either stand-up comedy or more tellingly, drag shows?

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  53. Z said on April 6th, 2009 at 6:36 pm

    @Billi:
    I 2nd this! I really can’t follow any of them…but Kate is good!

    @Kate:
    Wow…an actual painting..of BP, AJ and JA?

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  54. Z said on April 6th, 2009 at 6:38 pm

    @Angie’s Fax Machine:
    And who was in it?

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  55. Z said on April 6th, 2009 at 6:45 pm

    @Fan:
    “it was Jen that was head over heals, Brad never was, never is.”

    This wouldn’t be surprising after his constant comments about marriage while they were married. All the nothing lasts forever comments…..I can’t remember them all, but know I was slowly losing respect after each one. The jerk.

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  56. Kate said on April 6th, 2009 at 6:48 pm

    @Canuck:
    Yes, that is what it said originally from what I saw.

    blessings with her left hand

    Proverbs 3:16
    In her left hand are riches and honor.

    That is a reference from that proverb that is used in literature often, not sure if that is what SR means but it is possible that Jen was blessed financially…. with movie parts…etc..I have theory about that.

    No not a painting, I should have said a drawing, it was a sketch of what the sculpture was going to look like.

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  57. Z said on April 6th, 2009 at 6:55 pm

    @p:
    I didn’t know JA is an artist…what kind of art?

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  58. Kate said on April 6th, 2009 at 6:56 pm

    @Z:
    I don’t believe that, no one forced him to get married, she was not pregnant. If he did not love her that much he would have saved himself a lot of headache and simply moved on. He married her, he was with her for 7 years, longer than he was ever with anyone. I would bet that in some way Jen has a stronger hold on him than most believe. “Most believe”

    It is one thing to have hot sex all the time and intellectual stimualtion but at some time he has to grow up and grow old . Brad keeps changing partners, but each one is just like the last with a new set of problems.
    One of his big complaints about Jolie was that she never really loved him the way Jen did. He likes to be “loved” Jen nurtured him, and she said at one time she now knows that was one of her biggerst mistakes, she gave him too much and her too little.

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  59. Z said on April 6th, 2009 at 6:57 pm

    @Kate:
    Oh, OK….and I just read the posts about that sculpture….

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  60. Z said on April 6th, 2009 at 7:01 pm

    @Kate:
    Well, you have good points there….and I would like to believe he loved her….

    You are so right about growing up and growing old…then it’s more important to be with someone you love, respect, can get along with, etc. Wild times not as important when you are older.

    “she now knows that was one of her biggest mistakes, she gave him too much and her too little.” that is interesting, too…and I can see how that would be a problem.

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  61. Kate said on April 6th, 2009 at 7:13 pm

    @Z:
    He is probably still trying to prove himself, he is now wanting to leave his mark on the world, at some poing all the kinky sex will just make him feel void. Brad has a strong affinity for family and warmth. Jen brought that to him and that is why he was so torn when he left, even though he may have been hot for her. I wonder if he can even fall truly in love at this point after all that he has been through with Jolie. He has been in love many times. Now lived on the dark side with this ho, and remember we are just hearing these news flashes through SR and Ians sources, and the sources opinions, which may not be how he himself feels at all. It is what that person thinks.

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  62. cuze said on April 6th, 2009 at 7:26 pm

    I wonder if parts of this has to do with the pics Pitt took of Jolie for W magazine..the breastfeeding issue?

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  63. Billi said on April 6th, 2009 at 7:35 pm

    Too bad we don’t have more info on the sophisticated Washington connected lady that Brad is interested in based on an earlier SR post, or did that end up a dead end? Now if he’s busying himself with 1st class hookers to the tune of $15K/wk, when does a guy have time for anyone else.

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  64. p said on April 6th, 2009 at 8:43 pm

    @Z:
    I believe she’s a painter.

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  65. dilbo said on April 6th, 2009 at 9:12 pm

    @Canuck:

    isnt that pathetic pining away for someone who is busy having sex with who ever he chooses and reproducing while she is wasting away not getting any; that makes her seem pathetically sad

    for her sake i hope its not true and she is out having a the wild sex she wants after dumping a cheating husband, fyi there is no way john mayer would date a woman for a year and not have sex with them, the man is a sex freak and i know groupies who have slept with him; the golden showers stories are very true

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  66. Kate said on April 6th, 2009 at 9:16 pm

    @R. Catone:
    Sugar Ray, can we have some more clues to get us a little warmer, because I think we are all at a standstill at this point….pleassssssssse.

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  67. Kate said on April 6th, 2009 at 9:19 pm

    @dilbo:
    Are you kidding, if she read one word of this nasty mess Pitt has been into she will get down and bless the floor she walks on she got the hell out. LOL She is the lucky one imo He is a tortured soul and always will be unless he wises up and builds a decent relationship. I wonder if he thinks some intellectual woman from D.C is going to live in the gutter like that.

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  68. Z said on April 6th, 2009 at 11:02 pm

    @p:
    That’s interesting…I’d like to see her work. I wonder if she’s good.

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  69. Z said on April 6th, 2009 at 11:05 pm

    @Kate:
    He may be scarred at this point…his choices haven’t been good. He probably needs therapy, too. But he has to get real. Geez. And you are probably right that he’s still trying to make his mark on the world….he’d do a better job if he got it together.

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  70. cuze said on April 7th, 2009 at 3:48 am

    John Mayer have anything to do with the last part?

    the odd cabaret, applauded farces, process of assimilating it, instantly mesmerized, like a race horse reigned in, nevertheless beholden to no one and owed them nothing,

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  71. cuze said on April 7th, 2009 at 3:59 am

    “likes to make fun of his “doting” mother of six.. a few pesetas..an inglorious end”. Brad paid someone to photo shop the pictures he took of Angelina for W magazine. I know Angie’s lips are big but they look stranger than usual in the photo on the cover and there is speculation that the butt shot isn’t even Angelina. Did this piss her off royally when she found out what he had done?? I haven’t got any of Sugar’s stuff right so far so I’m probably way off on this one too.. but I’m just writing my thoughts here.

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  72. Canuck said on April 7th, 2009 at 5:15 am

    I didn’t realize that picadors worked in pairs. So threesomes, likely with two men. BP was mounted as well? I can’t help it, but the references to skirts swept up, tender and profound, initiation and training etc makes me think of the “Story of O”, which of course took place in a Chateau in France. Does that mean anything?

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  73. Canuck said on April 7th, 2009 at 5:25 am

    Which was penned under the name Pauline Reage, were there any master/slave books or movies along those same lines that featured or were written by an Amber or Doreen?

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  74. rotorua said on April 7th, 2009 at 8:45 am

    Ok, new to Sugar Ray’s stuff but for what it’s worth, to add to this…

    “completed the drawings” can be an architectural term for completed the plans or the design of something ie he had already planned for the threesome w perhaps AJ or a lesbian….Don’t get the “hermaphodite” ref..surely AJ is not a hermie- very doubtful. But maybe Brad wanted a threesome with a transexual ..? Agree with most of the rest of what people have said, BP “beholden to no one”. I did wonder about the cabaret reference…here’s a wild card…Could he harbour an attraction for Anne Hathaway ( to star as Judy Garland in biopic, mother of Liza M / Cabaret)…that would certainly peeve Ange! Could that be the reason behind that filthy look from AJ at the Globes…I kinda doubt it but “cabaret” kinda stood out. Enjoy!

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  75. CC said on April 7th, 2009 at 8:56 am

    Just a thought…what if Jen and AJ had an affair FIRST and then Brad stole AJ away???? Or, AJ had the affair with Jen to get closer to Brad and position herself to take him away and Jen feels betrayed??

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  76. p said on April 7th, 2009 at 9:00 am

    @Z:
    I haven’t seen any of her work but I remember hearing it discussed briefly. Probably not meaningful in this context. Everyone else’s interpretations are much fancier.

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  77. Keane said on April 7th, 2009 at 9:06 am

    @ Fan and DIlbo – John Mayer, Vince Vaughan and Paul Sculfor were all business arrangements for publicity. Jen did not have a relationship with any of them. All of them are either bi or gay. They were just created to give her some publicity and so she would look less sad, single and desperate in the eyes of the world. Terrible PR strategy in my mind because it actually has only served to make her look more sad and desperate because they were all so unsuitable, unbelievable and ultimately didn’t go anywhere. Worse for her image than just retaining a dignified silence on the subject in my mind, sack the PR. You can always tell when a relationship is fake/paid for because they will release some shots of the two of them together which are far too clear and initmate to have been taken by a pap with a long lens. You can tell they are set up because the photographer would have to have been stood right in front of them to get the shot and they act like he’s not there. Jen did them in a pool with John Mayer and in some cosy bar/restaurant cubicle type thing and with VV on a balcony. Very up close and intimate, no way a photographer was taking that with a long lens. Jen was also rumoured to have had a thing with Orlando Bloom which was also complete rubbish as he is either gay or bi. He also does set up shots and fake model girlfriends like Leo DiCaprio, there were some very obvious ones of him supposedly canoodling with supposed girlfriend Miranda Kerr on a balcony. Obviously staged, looked completely awkward, fake relatonship. A high percentage of supposed celeb relationships are made up for the millions of dollars of free publicity they bring to the stars and their films, as well as sometimes disguising their homosexuality. Jen did not have a relationship with any of those men, probably never even kissed any of them, they were all business deals.

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  78. dilbo said on April 7th, 2009 at 10:05 am

    @Keane:
    lmao you are full of shit, you delusional mind things you know any of this people and what they get up to .
    for ur information john mayer sleeps with women i know loads of groupies that have sleep with him, if
    he was dating aniston for a year trust me he would be hitting that.

    you are a fool to think that aniston has had a relationship since her divorce , so u are trying to imply she is still pining for brad pitt ? you make her sound like a pathetic creature; and laughing at you calling vince gay , so what do you have to say for urself now that vince is engaged to a non celebrity and his relationship isnt in the public eye so that means he isnt doing it for publicity?

    so me of you need to get rid of the idea that aniston been in a relationship since her divorce, the woman has dated four men in five years that doesnt make her a slut so dont try to paint it the other way by trying to implie the relatiosnhip were fake, no woman alive would go without sex for five years unless she is fucked up in the head and i dont think aniston is that kind of person.

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  79. dilbo said on April 7th, 2009 at 10:07 am

    @Keane:

    am sure you are that crazy person posting in different website this same rubbish you spill here acting like you know any of this people or what they personally get up to.
    you are just a person behind a computer for all we know you could be crazy and in a mental home and with a delusional mind think you know more that you know lol

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  80. dilbo said on April 7th, 2009 at 10:07 am

    keane is a crazy person

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  81. dilbo said on April 7th, 2009 at 10:11 am

    anis@p:
    At the age of 11 Aniston’s paintings was selected to be displayed in an exhibit at New York’s Metropolitan Museum of Art .
    but i read recently in a magazine she said she doesnt paint anymore beause she doesnt have the time

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  82. Keane said on April 7th, 2009 at 10:17 am

    Yes dilbo, ok, whatever you say, and you called me crazy! It really is widely known that Aniston’s post-Brad relationships have all been faked for publicity. Why don’t you try asking Ian for a start, or reading between the lines of what Ted C says. And I said VV, Mayer and Paul Sculfor were all rumoured to be bi, not gay, that means they still sleep with women, do you understand the difference? Mayer is well-known to be bi, Sculfor probably too and VV may be or he might have just done it for the publicity and to help a friend out. That doesn’t mean to say JA hasn’t been having sex, its just the people she’s had sex with, if any, she has chosen not to discuss in interviews. It is not likely that any of them were serious things, so why would she want to share details about her casual sexual encounters with the rest of the world? Not quite the “Marley and Me”, America’s sweetheart image she’s going for is it. And what you said about a woman going without sex for years is absolute rubbish, people do it all the time when they are in love with someone that they can’t have or doesn’t want them. They want love and sex, not just sex, and most intelligent people can understand that. Clearly from what you have just said you are not one of those people, sorry.

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  83. Keane said on April 7th, 2009 at 10:21 am

    @ Dilbo – and if you think everything you read about a celeb in a magazine or everything they say in interviews is true you are the one who is delusional. Most celeb stories are entirely made up by their PR to get them publicity or to disguise bad behaviour, Ian has just posted a story exposing that above. I never buy magazines any more because I know virtually nothing that it written about celebs is remotely true. I just laugh at the spin that is being put out by their PR. Try to educate yourself and then you won’t sound so utterly stupid and ridicuous next time you post.

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  84. Fan said on April 7th, 2009 at 12:36 pm

    @Keane:

    “post-Brad relationships have all been faked for publicity”

    Sorry, boohcky again. All of this came from the very sources you say can’t be trusted. Trust me, she is just dating, just like normal people do. Would Stephan use any of this to his ( her ) PR advantage. Naturally, that is what she pays him to do. Would John and Jen, or Vince and Jen or Jen and whomever, or whomever and whomever use there hoockup to their advantage. Naturally ITS HOLLYWOOD. But it’s still just dating, Hollywood style to be sure but still just dating.

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  85. Fan said on April 7th, 2009 at 12:38 pm

    their, hook-up … shoot

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  86. Keane said on April 7th, 2009 at 1:16 pm

    @ Fan – nope again, again try to consider what you’re saying before you leap to make a judgment on how I would know something, without asking me first. First, ask Ian. Second, I work in the media so know exactly how the game works with regard to PR campaigns and lies told by celebs. As I previously said there have been a series of candid, intimaite shots of Jen with these people that were clearly staged as the photographer had to be stood right in front of them and they were both acting like they couldn’t see them at all. They were the type of intimate shots that Jen has previously tried to sue over in the past (such as when a pap got a shot of her sunbathing in her backyard), so why wouldn’t she have tried to sue over these if they weren’t taken with her clear agreement? She also probably made money from the sale of these pictures, most celebs take a cut of picture sales from pre-arranged pap shots. Once you know what a staged “candid” shot looks like it is very easy to judge which ones are and which ones aren’t prearranged, most of them are. Brange do them all the time, they get dressed up to the nines with perfect hair and make-up to take their kids to the toy store for example. Only 2-3 at a time because they couldn’t handle more without nannies and they and the paps don’t want them in their shots. Brange were rumoured to have made 50% of proceeds from picture sales in their deal with the pap but had to up that to 2/3 after they bought the house in France as they’d spent a million on furniture and needed to pay it off. Take a look at the shot of Jen with John Mayer at the Oscars, that look like a genuine couple to you? He looks like her gay little brother and their physical contact looks all kinds of awkward and ridiculous. She is said to have immediately ditched him after the shots were taken, and not said a word to him for the rest of the night. Ever wondered why these “affairs” coincide with films she’s promoting or awards do’s and why they’re so off and on? Because she picks them up and drops them again when she needs publicity for her films or so she doesn’t have to show up at a premiere/awards do on her own. It really is very common knowledge these days that celebs do this. Are you telling me that you think Reese Witherspoon and Jake Gyllenhaal are a genuine couple too? Dream on! And so that’s how I know my info, now you can tell me how you are so sure of yours.

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  87. Fan said on April 7th, 2009 at 1:58 pm

    @Keane:

    My point is that none of that makes the relationship fake. If you or I did it, sure, but that is the business Jen is in. Good grief the Oscar pictures were staged! Are you kidding me? Of course they were. I know perfectly well they stage these and share in the profits. Big deal.

    So for proof that Jens affairs are fake, you offer as proof that :
    1. You work in the media ( big deal )
    2. Other people do that
    3. Jen sues for people stealing her shots but sets them up herself ( good for her )

    Exactly how does that prove anything at all?

    I also know that AJ shows up at the same art store every time she goes to NYC, phones the photographs so they will be there when she arrives and leaves.

    That also doesn’t make Jens affairs fake.

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  88. Fan said on April 7th, 2009 at 1:59 pm

    Oh and it’s Ians board, he can jump in any time he wishes.

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  89. Keane said on April 7th, 2009 at 2:40 pm

    Ok so you’re points are 1) Its no big deal I work in the media
    2) Other people work in the media too
    and 3) The fact that Jen sues for some photos and not others doesn’t mean anything.

    Ok, well I hate to split hairs but that’s actually 2 points: 1) that you don’t care that I work in the media and therefore have a much greater insight into the way the game works than people who don’t (or that indeed I did before I worked in it) and 2) you’re saying that just because Jen stages photos doesn’t mean the relationship is fake. Well, all I can say to the first one is I’ve worked in the TV industry for many years, met a lot of celebs and have discovered that much of what they present to the public as absolute fact (i.e. their age; whether they’ve had plastic surgery; whether they do drugs; their sexuality) is absolute BS. And we’re not just talking HW stars here, I’m talking everyone down to the most low-level TV presenter and everyone in between. I know what PR involves because many of my friends do it, do you know what it involves? The career and business of PR which many people do, is to get stories about that particular celeb, business or organisation in to the media for the purpose of publicity. The stories they pump out to magazines are often 90% utterly made-up, if you ask a PR about this, they will tell you. The other major job of the PR is to “protect” their client, which means they have to invent a story or spin that will cover up their bad behaviour. A friend of mine had to do this for something Naomi Campbell had done when she was doing work experience at one PR agency for example. So, in the light of my knowledge of the PR/celeb game (I also worked in a company with a talent agency, which was also very revealing about celebs), I am aware of how much of what you read about supposed relationships is usually made up. I can spot a made-up, faked story at twenty paces these days, as well as a staged pap shot. You are right, the fact that Jen Aniston stages pap shots doesn’t provide evidence that her relationships weren’t genuine, as Brange do them and their relationship was real, however bogus. It is the combination of what I know from my knowledge of the industry, journalism, what Ian has said and what Ted C had alluded to (that’s what I meant by not being able to trust what he says 100%, the explicit things aren’t as trustworthy as the implicit, when you know what he’s getting at, then they are obvious), which makes me 99% sure Jen A’s relationships with all those men were faked for publicity. Plus the story abot her with Orlando Bloom – pretty well known to be gay, so totally made up. And if you want further confirmation you can just ask Ian, he has already said this in his webchats so I’m sure will be only too happy to tell you again.

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  90. Fan said on April 7th, 2009 at 2:59 pm

    @Keane:

    You have a very strange definition of proof.

    LOL, how does any of what you just said prove Jen’s relationships are Fake? Becouse Ted said so, becouse Ian said so?

    Enough, belive what you like. Or rather Belive what Ian and Ted like.

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  91. Keane said on April 7th, 2009 at 3:28 pm

    @ Fan – I believe what Ted and Ian say because they have direct contact with Brange and Jen Aniston or sources very close to them all. Ted C lives in LA as well, works for a major network and works with and knows many people who will have worked with or known them all. TV/film industries are very incestuous and everyone knows or has worked with everyone. Ted is going to be party to 100 times as much info about these people as someone who is not in his position will. So I take my cue from what they say, and make a judgment as to what is BS (most of it) and what has a grain of truth (little of it) of what is written about them, from my knowledge of PR/pap agencies/talent agencies/film whatever. As is the case about everything that is written on this site and elsewhere, there is no hard and fast proof of anything. So of course I can’t give you hard evidence that Jen’s relationship were business contracts as I’m sure nothing would convince you except seeing copies of those contracts. That will never happen so you will just continue to believe what you want to believe based on what exactly? You still haven’t said. And while I cannot present to you undeniable proof that these relationships were just for PR, neither can you give me any evidence to show that they weren’t. I’m making an informed judgment on the basis of my knowledge and experience and what sources close to these people are saying, what are you doing exactly? As far as I can see so far, you’re just saying bollocks, this is what I think with no reasons as to why you think that other than you just do. I’ve told you why I think what I think, why don’t you.

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  92. dilbo said on April 7th, 2009 at 4:09 pm

    @Keane:

    it still doesnt mean anything, they are many celebrities in real relationships that use their relationship to their advantage it doesnt make it fake, just because ian and ted says something doesnt make it real, they are been wrong sometimes and just speculating like the rest of us

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  93. Keane said on April 7th, 2009 at 4:48 pm

    @ dilbo, not at all, Ian and Ted either know these people personally or know many people who know them. Neither I or you or anyone on this board has that access to them, barring possibly Kate who has a lot of connections in HW. Some of what Ted says may be speculation but other things such as whether or not Reese and Jake or Jen and whoever are fake is not one of them. The euphemism he uses in response to those questions is “I think Reese/Jen have exactly what they want for the timebeing”. Translation: its a relationship of convenience. He also came right out and said there was no point in specualting about the reasons for the demise of relationship that was never real in the first place. And Ian and Ted are most definitley not just speculating like us, if they were and publshing false info they would be sued. They have sources which the get their inside stories from. But believe what you want to believe, and I’ll continue to trust people who have greater access to these people than I do.

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  94. dilbo said on April 7th, 2009 at 5:47 pm

    if she is still pinning for brad pitt then she needs help and is pathetic and i dont see her as such and refuse to believe she fakes relationhip because she doesnt want to be involved with another man.
    if she needs a fake relationship she would do what tom cruise does which is have long term relationship with breards, at least his relationships dont have u and downs and multiple breakups which is not helped with the media calling her unlucky in love due to the breakups ; that is bad pr if the relationships were fake

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  95. dilbo said on April 7th, 2009 at 5:52 pm

    @Keane:
    whatever i dont think ay of this relationships are fake and neither do i think jake is that useless toothy person(who i believed is all made up) ted gets it so wrong at ties i still remember him saying his sources saying brad would never marry aniston and four months later after that comment they were engaged lol.

    if u are using the logic that so and so relationship is fake u might as well go on then and say brad and jen relationship was fake as well since they both are in the same agency and were set up on a date by their agents haha….. or brad a nd gwyenth who are also at the same agency;like i say if neither party is gay i see no reason for a fake relationship

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  96. Canuck said on April 7th, 2009 at 6:51 pm

    @dilbo:
    I think she is over Pitt as a romantic partner. That doesn’t mean that certain parts of her life don’t “belong” to him in her head and heart. They probably always will, as she and he have both said, those memories are now a part of their lives and you will never erase them.

    My view of Aniston is that she is a lot stronger than most give her credit for. She might give Brad another chance, but I can guarantee that it wouldn’t be on the same “internal power balance” as it was the first time around. They have spent 4 years growing in different directions and you can’t erase that either.

    She’s been put in the position of “poor pathetic Jen, the dumped woman” and the press (and AJ) have been banging that drum for years. If she chose to go the “hire-a-date” route from an image point of view, so what? She didnt’ ask to be put in the position of “poor desperate Jen”. There is no shame and nothing desperate about taking the time to meet the person who is actually right for you, rather than grasping at any available man in the hopes he might be the one, but at the same time countering the vile rumours that have been circulated about yourself. Jen is one of the wealthiest women in HW, she’s a huge catch, and she’s damned right to be careful. And for all we know, she’s had an anonymous steady boyfriend that stays out of the spotlight totally for years, and she’s been hiding him behind these arranged dates. If I were the target of the tabloids as she is and wanted to have a relatively normal love life, that’s exactly what I would do.

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  97. dilbo said on April 7th, 2009 at 7:16 pm

    @Canuck:
    all u said even made her sound more pathetic than if she was still pining for brad, and if u believe she does all this how can u be a fan of a fraud? a fraud is a fraud no matter the reasons why, it makes her no better than tom cruise ,katie holmes or nicole kidman yuck
    i believe if she had a steady bf she has been with all this no way would she hid him , isnt that a slp in t the faces of the media that paint her as hopeless /unluckyin love or cant keep a man the very image u claim she tying to fight by having a fake bf , so why would she hid that she has a longterm bf all this years if she doesnt want to painted a sad single woman lol; all ur logic make no sense

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  98. dilbo said on April 7th, 2009 at 7:24 pm

    btw it looks like jen and least one of pitt ex are friendly……she is in a movie with Juliette Lewis,
    and there is a video of aniston arm around juliette who is wearing the white stripped top and skinny jeans
    http://x17video.com/celebrity_video/jennifer_aniston/jennifer_aniston_in_nyc_filmin.php

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  99. Kate said on April 7th, 2009 at 7:31 pm

    @Canuck:
    Totally agree , she does not owe anyone a explantion for her heart. none or who she sleeps with on the sly.

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  100. Angie's Fax Machine said on April 7th, 2009 at 7:59 pm

    That’s because Juliette Lewis seems like a cool ass female that wouldn’t feel threatened by Jen. She has no reason to and neither does Jen about JL. They can dish on how overrated BP is LOL.

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  101. g said on April 7th, 2009 at 8:16 pm

    @Canuck:
    Canuck, agree with a lot of what you said. However Aniston has been one of the most tracked celebs over the longest time. She has half a dozen paps that just sit outside her house daily and trail her. Seems like it would be difficult to hide anyone.
    @Keane:
    I find it hard to believe the Aniston Mayer relationship was fake even though I do believe there are many fake relationships in Hollywood. It’s hard to believe Aniston, who likes her luxury, would go around the states on a tour bus for 2 weeks this past summer (with almost no photos) for a fake relationship. Why bother? Too make it more believable? Also, her getting back with him in Oct after their split was not good PR for either of them. Where was the benefit? They were both bashed mercilessly. (He didn’t even walk the red carpet with her at M&M premiere, although he attended, and he wasn’t even at the HJNTIY premiere). He was mentioned on 2 shows (Oprah & Letterman) during her media blitz before M&M and on Ellen for her promo of HJNIY. The main print mention of him was the Vogue interview and they hadn’t even gotten back together at that point.
    As for the paps and setting up shots. My impression is that paps can get pretty long range shots especially of a pool that is open to the public. Look at the lenses these guys have on their cameras at this link http://www.paparazzinotebook.com/PN_main_page.html. Look at the one of them at the ballfield, and the one of them on the hill looking down on Britney’s house. I’m amazed at some of the shots these guys get.
    Having said all that I’d like to understand, if this was a fake relationship then is everyone in Hollywood in on it or do they all play along e.g. talk show hosts like Oprah, Ellen, Letterman? Is her whole family and close friends all in on it? It seems like a lot of shit to go through for a fake relationship. And it’s not like she is some up and coming 20-something actress who needs to get noticed. She’s one of the most talked about and photographed women in Hollywood. Her GQ almost-nude photos spread in Dec got more mainstream media attention then any JM relationship crap did. I’m just trying to understand.
    As for some of the other things you mentioned.
    From what I have see, no one ever linked her to Bloom except for a few tabloids that link anyone who is single and seen talking. As for Sculfor, I don’t believe there were even any pictures of them together. Just a few of him coming out of her house. Whatever it was it didn’t last long. “The main two relationships” she has had have been Vaugh and Mayer. Didn’t really follow it much but Vaugh just struck me as a rebound. As for JM, never heard anything about him being Bi before his involvement with Jen but I also don’t really follow celebrity sexual orientation too closely. Also, I know you say Ted and Ian said they were fake but I saw that Mark Malkin said it was real. Is he not credible?
    BTW – it may not sound it in this post but I do appreciate your (and Kate’s) insight into the industry.

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  102. Canuck said on April 8th, 2009 at 7:06 am

    @dilbo:
    I think that you just want to see Aniston as pathetic and a fraud.

    If you can’t grasp the concept of “deflect the attention”, not my problem.

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  103. Canuck said on April 8th, 2009 at 7:13 am

    @dilbo:
    And in case you haven’t noticed, the public faces of most people are masks. John Wayne was gay, Brando was bi, Cary Grant was gay etc etc… So what? Odd as it might seem to you, actors get paid to pretend.

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  104. Keane said on April 8th, 2009 at 7:27 am

    Sorry guys, I haven’t got time to go into this in too much detail. Dilbo if you think Jake Gyllenhaal and Reese Witherspoon are a genuine couple there really is no point in arguing with you. Jake is as gay as a lord, check out some of his early pics in cropped T-shirt, not remotely heterosexual. Check his body language with Reese, all kinds of awkward, totally unsexual and he is the notorious “Toothy Tiles”, most famous BI of all time. But if you just refuse to believe it because you think you know better on the evidence of nothing at all, using insight based on nothing at all, I can’t really help you.

    @ g – sorry I haven’t got too much time to go into this, but I have revised my opinion on John Mayer slightly. If you look back at Ian’s archives what he says is that it started off as a relationship, but Jen seemed to put John off women for life and he was rumoured to now be seeing Pete Wentz (I give his marriage to Ashlee about 5 minute). So it may have been that they started as a relationship, but it didn’t last very long and the hook-up around the oscar period I’m pretty sure was just for publicity and so Jen wouldn’t have to go to the oscars on her own. If he hadn’t done it she would have arranged for someone else to go with her, probably another Paul Sculfor type. Just to give you a general guideline, as Ian has said before, what celebs about their private lives or what their PRs feed to the media, is usually as much of a fiction as what they get up to in their films. Contrary to popular opinion, very few celebs actually want to share the details of their private lives with the wider world, whether because they just like to have a private life, don’t want to draw too much attention to the relationship, or don’t want to put too much pressure on something in its early stages. In order to keep the press happy and to get publicity when they need it, they invent totally fake relationships which act as a cover for what is really going on in their private life. Just put yourself in their place, if you were famous, would you want to tell the whole world about every little detail of your private life? I think the answer to that is no probably not. But as a celeb these days you know the only way people can carry films or sell records is if they are talked about in the tabloids and magazines. It is not enough to just be a great actor or musician any more, the market is so saturated with artists that in order to gain a mass appeal and be cast in films and given contracts by record companies, you have to have massive media exposure. And the only way to really do this nowadays is to talk about your sex life, relationships and kids, these are the things that people really want to hear about, not boring details about your artistry.

    And as for everyone being in on it, yes, most journos and HW insiders know that these relationships are fake. However, these stories sell magazines and if this is what is being given to them by the PR then this is what they have to print (totally put me off ever working on a magazine, not that I read them much anyway), and yes interviewers have to go along with it. When a celeb does an interview, their “people” are always there, determining what can and can’t be asked and what they should and shouldn’t answer. Inteviewers have to stick to a script, and if the interviewer is not prepared to do that, then the celeb won’t do the interview. And everything a celeb is asked in a tv interview has already been asked to them beforehand by the Researcher (such as myself) anyway. They know what they’re going to be asked, they have already been briefed, told the Researcher roughly what their answer will be and the Q and A’s are given to the interviewer to follow. The conversation may stray off subject slightly but it is structured by the questions that have already been asked the celeb by the Researcher. No tv interview is ever done “cold”, except the ones where the journo has 5 mins to interview someone on a press junket, who is being interviewed by 50 people that day (but the PR is sat by their side, just out of shot all the time). Discussion programmes (you know where you get a load of the general public, some famous faces etc in a studio to discuss partiuclar topics) are also scripted beforehand. The Researcher (again, such as myself), goes throught the questions/topics of discussion with the contributors and then the Producer puts together a script based on what has been said to the Researcher. Each person is then told when to say what and who to respond to and ideally in what way. Again, it can stray off topic but this structures the show. None of what goes on in any of these programmes is just spontaneous and made up on the spot – that could be disastrous.

    As for the pap pics – it is usually easy to tell which ones are taken with a long lens without the star’s agreement and which aren’t. The clarity of the pic usually gives it away – long lens = not very good focus, whereas if the shots are very clear and detailed, then they have to be stood in close range of them. Also the subject-matter of the shots, if its just them moseying about on their own not doing much then it may be a long lens shot. If its them conveniently hanging out with a person they are rumoured to have been dating etc then its more likely to be staged for publicity. As for Jen, she has demonstrated that she likes to keep her private life private by the fact that she didn’t sell any pics of her wedding to Brad to any mags, and she tried to sue for pics of her sunbathing in her backyard. She likes her privacy not to be invaded. However, she did not threaten to sue over pics of her in a pool in a bikini with John Mayer, there was no way they could have been taken by a long lens as they were close ups on their faces and taken from different angles. Same with ones in the romantic restaurant booth set-up and the ones with VV on a balcony. If she’s not sueing for those, and she did for the others, it means she’s doing them for publicity and is complicit in the whole deal.

    As for the fact that her faked relationships have made her look worse not better, yes I agree, but the one thing they have done is kept her in the public eye, kept her talked about, and kept her getting cast in films. She was a tv actress before, not a film star, and it is very difficult for people to make this cross-over. None of the rest of the cast of Friends is managing it. While her faked affairs may have made her come off looking worse to most people, they have ensured she is still talked about, and if she hadn’t done them and if there hadn’t been this whole love triangle with Brad and Ange then she would have been virtually forgotten about and not cast in any of the films she has been. So for her in this case, there is no such thing as bad publicity. This is whay Ted bashes Jen to some degree, because she is very PR savvy too, and has to a degree used the Brange triangle and her supposed relationships to get press. She’s no dumb chick. He also calls Reese Witherspoon very “crafty” in the way she gets publicity and I think what her and Jen do is pretty similar. She is one of the most talked about women in HW for one reason and one reason alone, the marriage to Brad, the triangle with Ange, the fact that everyone supported her over losign her husband to her and are thus interested in all her subsequent relationships. She wouldn’t be half as well known without it, look at all the other cast members of Friends.

    She was linked to Bloom, it was another faked story leaked by her PR concerning an actor who also does a lot of fake relationships and staged candid shots to disguise his real relationships. It was a mutually convenient story. Paul Sculfor exactly the same, he did it to get his name known. Lots of models do it to try to cross over from modelling into something else like acting or tabloid stardom. They are paid for it too obviously. These stories don;t come out of nowhere, they are set up and leaked to the press deliberately by their PRs because they want and need their clients to be talked about. People fake relationships and affairs all the time for press, its the most commonly employed PR tactic.

    Sorry don’t know this Mark Malkin guy so can’t comment on that one.

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  105. Keane said on April 8th, 2009 at 7:27 am

    @ g – although I did at length! Tried to answer as much of it as I could, will try to fill in any blanks later!

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  106. Keane said on April 8th, 2009 at 7:40 am

    @ g – as for journos on magazines, they don’t spend their time doing investigations into celebs’ private lives, there is no way they’d have time to do that on fast turnaround weeklies. 90% of their stories are phoned into them by their PR, often not even at the request of the journo, or gleaned from sources they have close to the star who are being paid to leak stories about them. Rule of thumb: good stories – from PR. Bad stories – from source within camp. A PR would never leak a bad story, a source would never get paid for a good one, they get paid for dirt, gossip etc. This is how 90% of stories in mags are created. Journos don’t go out stalking celebs to find out dirt on them, it comes directly to them by these 2 routes. All they do is try to corroborate it when it comes from a source, ask the celeb’s PR for comment, and write it up. If it comes from their PR they they just write it up and pad it out a bit with stuff that’s already been printed already.

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  107. CC said on April 8th, 2009 at 8:13 am

    Keane, you are not delusional and your take makes sense on this and all the other iuc blogs. Its a shame you and this DILDO person have spent this entire blog arguing over whether or not HW types manufacture relationships…it would have been nice to stick to the topic at hand which was to try and figure out the clues to the poem…

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  108. Keane said on April 8th, 2009 at 8:29 am

    @ CC – I know, I’ve been meaning to get to that, been totally distracted by all this fake relationship debacle though, am getting back to the post now at last!

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  109. CC said on April 8th, 2009 at 8:34 am

    @Keane:
    Yay!!!!! ;-)

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  110. Keane said on April 8th, 2009 at 9:02 am

    Defiant and all-powerful…bogus marriage…mounted picador…distracted by the thought…some string-pulling…doodled for Paulina…hugged Amber…kissed Doreen…sweet, innocent love…continued the training at home…skirts swept up…something very tender and profound…initiation in two more mysteries…completed the drawings…bulldyke…blessings with her left hand…metaphysical quality…precarious balance…hermaphrodite…painter of intimate pictures…right down to her red beard…likes to poke fun of his “doting” mother of six…a few pesetas…inglorious end…theknife of the gypsy…bleak, black period…craves for intellectual milk…the odd cabaret…applauded farces…process of assimilating it…instantly mesmerized…like a racehorse reined in…nevertheless beholden to no one and owed them nothing…doble cara…farsante…traidor…El backstabereroooeroo!!

    Ok this is my take on this: Brad was the powerful one in control of the relationship with Jen, he was like the proud defiant picador mounted on his horse. The marriage wasn’t exactly what people were led to think, or SR could be saying they got married partly for the publicity, maybe it wasn’t as strong a union as people were led to believe (Kate disagrees with this). Mounted picador is also a sexual reference and that he was distracted by the thought of what he wanted to do sexually. He used his influence to pull a few strings and arranged for a few hot ladies (could be Paulina Porizkova, Amber Valletta and ?) to hook up with Jen, sounds like they were in bars when this happened, but it didn’t go very far. He continued trying to get her into threesomes when they were at home, sound like she went as far as a letting a woman go down on her, she maybe then was initiated in to full sex with a woman, maybe vaginal and anal penetration (the 2 further mysteries). She completed what she had started out by doind by doodling in bars with girls and was now a “bulldyke”. I think the “blessings with the left hand” and “metaphysical quality” refers to the avatar of the Hindu goddess Mata, called Brahamcharini, she is the goddess of penance. She had to do severe penance to win her husband in her former life, I think SR means that these threesomes were the penance JA had to do to keep Brad. Their marriage wasn’t as rosy as people thought. But it was a very precarious balance, keeping him happy but not being pushed to do more than she wanted. The balance was broken when Ange entered the scene, and Jen now mainly has sex with herself and paints sexy pictures of her fantasies (my best guess). She makes fun of Ange. Ange and Brad made a bit of money out of their relationship, but this bullfight did not end gloriously for Brad. Instead he was knifed by the gypsy, rather than him knifing the bull and winning the fight. Could be interpreted both literally and metaphorically. Now he is in a desperate place and craves an intellectual mind to heal him. He has had the odd fling with some people and the applauded farces of his public appearances with Ange. Now he is trying to assimilate this new person into his life (this was interesting re: the process of assimilation used by Borgs in Star Trek – Assimilation was the process by which the Borg added new members and new technology to the Collective. Borg assimilation was predatory; every species the Borg encountered was assessed to determine whether its biological and technological distinctiveness was considered “worthy of being added to the Collective’s perfection”. If found to be so, the species was set upon and forcibly assimilated; the Collective considered the species’ will in the matter “irrelevant”.) So maybe he has found someone he has considered worthy of him and being assimilated into his life and the Pitt collective/family and is now setting about arranging it, whether the object of his affections likes it or not! He was instantly mesmerized by this person and is not like a racehorse reined in only by the difficulty of how to break it to the public. I think he is the person involved with someone else already not Ange. But he doesn’t think he owes anyone anything, not Jen, not Ange, not this new person. He is a double-crosser, a fraud, a traitor, a backstabber.

    My best guess.

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  111. Keane said on April 8th, 2009 at 9:05 am

    “is now like a racehorse”, not “not like a racehorse”, sorry, need an edit button!

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  112. Gitano said on April 8th, 2009 at 9:31 am

    Sugar: She is not two-faced. He is. She is not the traitor. He is. She is not the backstabber. He is. You know the Deceiver and he has told you about her and you do not see him for what he is?

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  113. Keane said on April 8th, 2009 at 10:15 am

    @ Gitano – SR isn’t saying she is the backstabber, he is saying Brad is. That whole end section is told from his perspective. She is referred to as the gypsy. At least this is how we have all interpreted it. The whole thing is about him and how he has treated his women: Jen, then Ange, now this new lady he is chomping at the bit to be with and to assimilate into his life. Ange is not the traitor or double-crosser in this scenario, its him.

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  114. Canuck said on April 8th, 2009 at 11:22 am

    @Keane:
    Good job!

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  115. Canuck said on April 8th, 2009 at 11:23 am

    @Gitano:
    Gitano, interesting nickname ;)

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  116. Angie's Fax Machine said on April 8th, 2009 at 11:31 am

    Gitano is a male gypsy. It’s Spanish.

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  117. Canuck said on April 8th, 2009 at 11:41 am

    I know :) I just found it interesting given that AJ is referred to as a gypsy in this post

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  118. Angie's Fax Machine said on April 8th, 2009 at 11:49 am

    @Canuck:
    Maybe JH is taking a day off from the Mary Kay to visit us :)

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  119. keane said on April 8th, 2009 at 11:51 am

    Gitano = James Haven perhaps? The male gypsy? And how wld he know SR has met with Brad… Could this be the only place the info could possibly be coming from…?

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  120. jan said on April 8th, 2009 at 12:10 pm

    i think peewee pitt is a deceitful and power hungry person that uses people. he has gotten away with it and some people still blame the ex and jolietit, but he is the one that should be crusified and hung out to dry. i hope he does not get the kids IF they beakup and she gets herself back on track and leaves him. jen is a stronger and better person without him and i do not believe she would go back to him, as for fake relationships whether bi or straight mayer is worth hitting as his borack picture showed whether it is for a short while or longterm. if we believe all this beard stories all holywood is then gay and lesbains. jen may be bi but deff likes the males as well. jmo. i dislike jolietit but despise peewee pitt more

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  121. Fan said on April 8th, 2009 at 12:21 pm

    Just thinking out loud:

    All BP and AJ

    Defiant and all-powerful
    bogus marriage
    mounted picador
    distracted by the thought
    some string-pulling
    doodled for Paulina
    hugged Amber
    kissed Doreen
    sweet, innocent love
    continued the training at home
    skirts swept up
    something very tender and profound
    initiation in two more mysteries

    completed the drawings

    bulldyke
    blessings with her left hand
    metaphysical quality
    precarious balance

    hermaphrodite
    painter of intimate pictures
    right down to her red beard
    likes to poke fun of his “doting” mother of six
    a few pesetas
    inglorious end
    theknife of the gypsy
    bleak, black period

    Enter John
    craves for intellectual milk
    the odd cabaret
    applauded farces
    process of assimilating it
    instantly mesmerized
    like a racehorse reined in
    nevertheless beholden to no one and owed them nothing

    “Heartbreak Warfare”
    doble cara
    farsante
    traidor
    El backstabereroooeroo!!

    And down this road again.

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  122. maggiethecat said on April 8th, 2009 at 5:30 pm

    I dunno why would JA continually subject herself to the humiliation that comes every time one of these allegedly faux relationships end? She has to know that when these things fizzle out that the media will spin is as “poor Jen dumped again” why set herself up for that over and over again? The temporary publicity these relationships generate can’t be worth another round of “poor Jen”. Not that I’m doubting the fauxmance thing entirely. Her and Mayer always seemed so stilted together and the way the relationship went kaput literally the minute the Oscars was over seemed a little too convenient.

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  123. Kate said on April 8th, 2009 at 5:56 pm

    @keane:
    Isn’t that what we have suspected all along, that Brad is the source. This is how, SR told me awhile back, remember he was going to spill all on the night that Brad spent with Slim in “detail” then suddenly we got more info on Angelina in detail and zero on Brad. That is when I began to question if we had chosen a side in custody. I would say we have. IMO Brad called Ian/SR and in a trade off to not talk about his trick he is giving him info on Angelina and what is going down.

    That is just my opinion of course, but what Gitano = James Haven perhaps, makes that pretty clear…

    Don’t you agree? How else would Ian know all the details he knows on the side for Brad?

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  124. Kate said on April 8th, 2009 at 6:39 pm

    @Keane:
    I think you did a great job on this, and I agree you on almost all of it. I know many have tried to convince the masses that Jen went into this marriage knowing Brad was bisexual and that she would be on board and accept his relationships with men, and that it got to a point that she could not do that, and that is why she wanted out. Brad was always with men and had a relationship with his architect friend. Now that came from Datalounge. Here is the thing though, Jen was known to test the waters with girls, but she did not like it. She was blissfully in love with Brad by all accounts, everyone that knew her. Brad also was blissfully in love with her, despite those who try to say she was rebound, she was not. He was just much more careful and much more hesitant to wear his heart on his sleeve with Jen after being hurt with GP.

    Brad has fallen in love over and over and over. He has been engaged four times. Maybe more, but that is all I know about. He has been cheated on at least three times, and was devasted every time. This is a man that loves women. Now he man like sex with men, the sex part, but I don’t buy that he gets emotionally involved with men, if he even is more than experimental. He may have graduated beyond that, IDK. Everyeone has a story about Brad Pitt and if he is bi or gay or whatever. I have to look at his history and “all the girls he has loved” and since he was about 16 years old. I am not talking about just recent. He has a long history of falling in love with love. I was talking to a friend today, who knows George Clooney fairly well, I asked them if he is gay or bi, and you know what they said, “I don’t know, I really don’t, George dates women, he likes woman, he never lets anyone know how he feels really on a personal level”. I also was chatted with someone who use to live with him. There are all kinds of stories out about him, and when Brad became the bff of George the stories on him got worse.

    Last year Brad said he wanted to be like Paul Newman, or was that in 2007, just make a few films here and there now that he has gotten older. He has done a complete turn around since then, and going full force into his career. He now wants to make up for all the films he felt he did not do well, or so he said recently. Now Paul Newman, as most people know was bisexual, lived a long life with his beautiful wife Joanne, lost a child to a drug overdose, was a wonderful huminatarian. He lived a stable family life, down to earth on most fronts, nothing like what Pitt has been forced into these past four years. If Brad is bisexual I would bet in his mind he thinks he should be able to have that, the way Paul did with Joanne, why not? Why couldn’t Jen just accept that? I have always felt Brad was angry with Jen to a point when they split, but at the same time, he was hurt, and he was excited to break free and be with Jolie. According to this person who knows George, he was biting at the bit then, and GC was fearful of what would happen to Brad if she pulled it all out from under him. I don’t know what the real story is with them,I have no inside info, but I do wonder if Brad ever meant to stay with Jolie . I think she got pregnant by accident, I don’t think they planned it, but I could be wrong. Ian said back in January that Jen’s friends told him and that he stands by that source that Jen loves him and wants to get back with him no matter what it takes. Now that leads me to believe that the marriage was real, how could it not be? Maybe it was bogus in the sense that they were not faithful to one another as the public would have thought if they had threesomes, but I do believe she wanted to always be married to Brad, and still does. Of course she may have changed her mind if she is reading here. LOL

    If he cheated, if he was fucking Jolie while telling Jen he wasn’t, that is being two faced, but it is being two faced for Jolie also since she said she would never sleep with a married man? yes? Jolie is no better imo because she went after Brad. She flirted with him, he was a challenge to her. Doug Liman also made comments that in the beginning Brad tried to resist her, stay away from her. I think Brad did value his marraige. I think reading between the lines in one of his last interviews where he said he had a good life, good friends, good home, good wife, was the happiest he had ever been, you could tell he was torn. Stay with my best friend and someone that I love and is loyal and my family loves or go on this exciting adventure. Well he went, she did not wait, and they got divorced and the joke is on him. She looks great and he looks like death. Who came out better here, life has done him no favors.

    Look at his miserable life. Will he ever say it was a mistake. No, of couse not because that would be denying the life of his kids. What parent would do that, but in his heart he knows he fucked up big time. He has a restless soul. I don’t see how he can be called a back stabber and two faced completely. Angelina Jolie got exactly what she asked for. JMO

    Where will he go from this circus, I bet back to normal, who ever that may be. You see men all the time leave a family, and the kids, and get in a new relationship, and eventually have a new family, settle down, like they should have in the first place. That is probably what he will do. He will become the father and husband at 50 that he should have been at 30. Maybe he will then have his Paul Newman legacy, who knows, maybe even a salad dressing , ha ha. Jolie though is devious and manipualtive, so I do not see how anyone can say she is not a backstabber, or two faced, she is. She has treated Jen like shit all through this.

    IMO

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  125. Keane said on April 9th, 2009 at 8:08 am

    @ Kate – yes maybe that’s what he meant by wanting to be like Paul Newman, maybe he just wanted to bring out a line of salad dressings at some point in the future? LOL. Sorry, sometimes the ridiculousness of all of this makes me near hysterical with laughter! The only bit that does not make me laugh is that a suspected drug addict is a goodwill ambassador for the UN and is allowed to adopt children. That is not funny at all to me, and must not be allowed to continue. Money and celebrity should not allow people to get away with anything. Makes me very angry. But with regard to what you’ve just said, how do you think that relates to SR’s post and my interpretation – do you think he means Ange is the backstabber?

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  126. Gitano said on April 9th, 2009 at 10:51 am

    @Kate:

    Gitano is not James Haven. I don’t know where SR gets his information. Could be from Brad or from some people who are tied to Brad in a cultish way. If it’s just stream of consciousness, then SR is psychic.

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  127. Keane said on April 9th, 2009 at 11:58 am

    @ Gitano – how would you know that Ange is not the deceiver, not the traitor and not the backstabber, and that he is? I think no-one but the most ardent of fans would ever say that Ange is not deceitful. She’s gone behind people’s backs many a time to steal their man, deceit and backstabbery is her stock in trade. I’m not saying that Brad isn’t just as reprehensible but how on earth you could say that she isn’t any of these things is beyond me. The woman exists to manipulate, everyone and everything, she cheats on her partners and steals other people’s. In what way is she not a traitor, backstabber or deceiver?

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  128. Gitano said on April 9th, 2009 at 2:09 pm

    Actually, I thought SR’s “backstabber” reference was to some one else outside the triangle. The “she” in my comment was not a reference to Jolie although the “he” was a reference to Pitt. Yesterday was my first time here. I read SR’s post and then quickly scanned the comments because there were so many of them. Having reread I understand now that just about everybody here considers Pitt to be the “backstabber”. And I agree with you that Jolie is as much a “backstabber” as he is. Does SR consider Pitt to be the “traitor” or is that what everybody is reading into this? Does SR ever visit and explain or does s/he remain enigmatic?

    I was attracted to the cult initiation aspects and rite of mystical passage of the post. Tells me that SR is somehow accessing information about Pitt that few people suspect:
    - distracted by the thought (obsessed/possessed)
    - something very tender and profound
    - initiation in two more mysteries (probably sexual but necessarily so)
    - blessings with her left hand (the Left Hand Path)
    - metaphysical quality
    - precarious balance
    - the knife of the Gypsy
    - bleak, black period (the Abyss)
    - process of assimilating it
    - instantly mesmerized (the Charis)

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  129. Keane said on April 9th, 2009 at 3:26 pm

    @ Gitano – yep there is definitely some sort of religious/metaphysical metaphor running through it, but not being a religious buff I’m not precisely sure what that is. What is “the Left Hand Path” of which you speak? How would that relate to the post? Check my interpretation above and see how it would fit in. Whatever the precise interpretation of this is though, I think we kind of get the drift of this one now. If you could help out on the other one then that would be good. “False eyelashes” is what is bugging me on the other one, see what you think.

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  130. Gitano said on April 9th, 2009 at 4:05 pm

    @Keane:
    I really don’t know that much about the world’s religions. But when I read your earlier post it struck me that the Hindu goddess Mata called Brahamcharini (Charis a root?) was similar to the Sophia of the Christian Gnostics. Mata had to do severe penance to win her husband and Sophia is disempowered and thrown into the Abyss to suffer for having produced the narcissistic world god without a consort (SR’s hermaphrodite allusion?). Sophia is eventually redeemed by Christ her husband or so the myth goes. The Left Hand Path is the Dark Path. Wisdom (Sophia) means knowing and doing both good (light) and evil (dark) in order to know good from evil. I really don’t know how this would relate to the post wrt to the Brad/Jen marriage. Your idea of there being a price to be paid to maintain the marriage resonates. I think the price was engaging in cult related sexual activities involving other partners.

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  131. Keane said on April 9th, 2009 at 4:25 pm

    @ Gitano – hm, complicado, lots to think about there. I initially thought the religious stuff would be a Roman Catholic reference as the whole thing is about a Spanish bullfight, but I haven’t checked this out yet. Who/what is meant by “narcisstic world god”, because I can see how that would apply (Bradley). And that whole thing about Sophia applies really well, Jen had to do the bad stuff that she didn’t like sexually to decide what she wanted was a monogamous relationship I guess. What makes you think it was cult related? I see what you mean by the use of the word “inititation”, that does suggest something like that. Now what was that secret society that Kate was talking about where members were involved in deviant sexual practices and possibly witchcraft (can’t remember exactly what) that several HW types or politicians were supposed to be members of? And when did this website turn into an online version of the Da Vinci Code?! And BTW, when you said the “she” you were referring to was not part of the traingle, who did you mean?

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  132. Keane said on April 9th, 2009 at 4:41 pm

    Ok this is interesting. Apparently for 100s years the RC church thought that people who were left-handed were servants of the devil and forced them to write with their right. There is a parallel between what people thought of homosexuality so that would fit. Blessings with left hand = homosexual activity and is SR also suggesting connotations of evil. Fits with the left path and the right path theory.

    I still don’t quite get the significance of calling Brad a double-crosser, backstabber and traitor though. Traitor to who? Traitor to Jen? Picadors work in pairs, two men. To me it would imply stabbing a friend in the back, not one of the women. Is his new love associated with a male friend of his or something. He “owed them nothing and was beholden to no-one”. Did someone do him a favour, helped him out and he stabbed them in the back by going after their woman. This Trevor guy perhaps? To me, in order to do double-cross someone, to stab them in a back and be a traitor, this person has to have done them a favour. Now that cannot be Jen or Ange, unless it means Jen is doing him a favour by heling him out in some way in the mess he’s in, but he’s met someone else and is going to stab her in the back. It refers to something current I think, not his previosu relationship with her. Also he owed “them” nothing, several people – Jen and his parents? Are they all helping him to get custody of the kids but he’s met someone else and is going to stab them in the back and go off with her. This is why he is a racehorsre “reined in”, this is what is stopping him galloping off with this new person into the sunset. Yes this is a bit closer to it in my view….

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  133. Keane said on April 9th, 2009 at 4:43 pm

    And that whole “precarious balance” bit – was he getting it on with men at the same time as she was getting it on with women? Were there orgies? Is this part of the initiation into “two further mysteries”? Hmmm….

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  134. Keane said on April 9th, 2009 at 4:46 pm

    Plus the whole painting/drawing thing, whats that all referring to? Has to be something in my view. Its a metaphor for what she’s doing sexually but there seems to be more to it than that, otherwise why keep going on about it. Not sure what that is though….

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  135. Kate said on April 9th, 2009 at 5:26 pm

    @Keane:
    lets try a new angle, and leave Brad completely out of it, and do it only on Jen, the title does not reference Brad, we are forcing him into this. Lets see how it turns out without him in it- just a thought,I just have a feeling this is just about Jen and no one else.

    Jennifer Aniston Likes Short Skirts

    Ian seems to be focused on the fact that Jen is asexual and he thinks that is odd. I don’t agree, but I just have a feeling this is about that and what the editor told him about Jen not being able to ever have kids.

    Lets try it that way.

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  136. Keane said on April 9th, 2009 at 5:39 pm

    @ Kate – yes I see what you mean, but I’m not sure how the “defiant and all-powerful” and “mounted picador” bit fits in….implies a man doesn’t it, or at least a cock! Argh this is getting more and more complicated!

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  137. Kate said on April 9th, 2009 at 5:44 pm

    Defiant and all-powerful-Brad in control of the marriage
    …bogus marriage- the marriage was not what the public thought, more open
    …mounted picador-prick – maybe anal sex
    …distracted by the thought—–Brad bisexual
    …some string-pulling—Brad got Jen parts , he stated Plan B for her
    …doodled for Paulina—–threesome of she just played around with her
    …hugged Amber—no real sex with her, just affection
    …kissed Doreen–same here, we know Jen tried girls, she did not like it
    …sweet, innocent love—-I think this is her love for Brad
    …continued the training at home…—-Brad wanting threesomes at home or him and his anal sex with Jen
    skirts swept up–bringing more girls home to share
    …something very tender and profound——-?????
    …initiation in two more mysteries…????????
    completed the drawings———Brad’s architect reference somehow
    …bulldyke…—-
    blessings with her left hand—this could be the reference to power and wealth Bibiical Proverbs 3:16
    metaphysical quality———
    …precarious balance——–
    …hermaphrodite——reproduces its own , this may allude to where Ian keeps say Jen is asexual
    …painter of intimate pictures
    …right down to her red beard– well if Brad was bisexual she was bearding for him somewhat
    …likes to poke fun of his “doting” mother of six…-Jen made that comment about Zahara on her hip and the trip with all of them at the Hamptons together
    a few pesetas…-coins -is she being paid off

    inglorious end…-his has ended filming on IB
    the knife of the gypsy…-Angelina is the backstabber here
    bleak, black period-a dark time-this is a very dark time for him
    …craves for intellectual milk-he is craving the sophisticated woman
    …the odd cabaret-their entire lifestyle
    …applauded farces–he was in support of all this fake shit
    …process of assimilating it—-he is trying to figure out how blend it and get out at the same time
    @Kate:

    On second thought that does not work, but the knife of the gypsy seems to say to me that Angelina is the backstabber, not Brad. She is known to throw knives. The left hand quote could be a reference of honor and wealth, from proverbs 3:16 if Brad earlier in their marriage and after “pulled some strings” and got her some parts and now look, she is worth millions. a few pesetas-maybe she was paid off again at some point to keep her mouth shut.

    If Jolie is going after all the kids, maybe she is the back stabber, trying to say the adoptions are not real, etc. IDK, this one is so confusing. The first part is obvious that Brad forced Jen into threesomes, and that ruined the marriage. That is clear.

    Have to think some more. I don’t think a cult is part of this at all.

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  138. Gitano said on April 9th, 2009 at 6:27 pm

    @Keane:

    The “she” was a general term for other women in Brad’s life past (an old love) and present (a new love). I think he feels betrayed by many of them. It’s typical of the narcissist’s perception of himself. Reading through the first time I got the impression that some woman was being called “the backstabber”. The mounted picadors stabbed the bull in the back. The woman could be a Taurus.

    There are a lot of cults that use sex as a part of ritual because it generates an energy, a charge. When politically powerful men aggregate at Bohemian Grove male hookers are available. I don’t know if this was the group Kate was referring to.

    It’s the choice of words that is cultish to me.

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  139. Angie's Fax Machine said on April 9th, 2009 at 6:45 pm

    Angelina is left-handed

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  140. Angie's Fax Machine said on April 9th, 2009 at 7:28 pm

    OK this is my interpretation. Tell me what you think.

    Defiant and all-powerful…bogus marriage… = BP’s the boss in the marriage. No equality.

    mounted picador… = BP mounts JA.

    distracted by the thought… = something on JA’s mind. maybe he’s pressuring her to try new things sexually

    some string-pulling…doodled for Paulina…hugged Amber…kissed Doreen… = She or he pulled some strings for threesomes

    sweet, innocent love…continued the training at home…skirts swept up… = She loves him and would do anything for him.

    something very tender and profound… = She loves him and hopes new sexual experiences will bring them closer together.

    initiation in two more mysteries… = He introduces her to two new things. Drugs, sex, sex tape?

    completed the drawings… = The design of their home is completed. Or he got someone to paint a naked portrait for her.

    bulldyke… = Perhaps this is the painter. Or he requests for the bulldyke to do her. JA’s not into the bulldyke.

    blessings with her left hand…metaphysical quality…precarious balance… = He meets AJ. Pictures of them in the balcony during the filming of MMS looks like he’s holding her left hand. AJ is left-handed. He thinks she’s deep, well-read. They connect physically, but he knows it’s dangerous balancing two women.

    hermaphrodite… = AJ has qualities of a man and woman.

    painter of intimate pictures…right down to her red beard… = The painter paints JA naked right down to her red pubic hair.

    likes to poke fun of his “doting” mother of six… = Towards the end of the marriage. JA makes fun of AJ. JA knows AJ is not as doting as she’d like to have everyone believe. JA tells BP he’s making a mistake and warns him about AJ not being who he thinks.

    a few pesetas… = Split assets for the divorce

    inglorious end… = Divorce

    the knife of the gypsy… = AJ lets it be known that there is an affair. Or perhaps this is when BP invited AJ to the home he shared with JA.

    bleak, black period… = JA is depressed. Everything ended so fucked-up

    craves for intellectual milk… = JA is trying to pull herself together after the depression.

    the odd cabaret…applauded farces…process of assimilating it… = Everything is fake for the public eye. JA’s relationships and AP & BP.

    instantly mesmerized…like a racehorse reined in… = JA is focusing on herself.

    nevertheless beholden to no one and owed them nothing… = JA loves herself and owes nothing to anyone.

    doble cara…farsante…traidor…El backstabereroooeroo!! = I think we all know who this is.

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  141. Kate said on April 9th, 2009 at 8:55 pm

    @Angie’s Fax Machine:
    I was thinking along those lines too earlier, but then I noticed the way Ian has it tagged at the bottom, he has it tagged at Aniston and Brangie. So now looking back I think the first half is about Jen and Brad, but when you get to where it says Inglorious End, that is where SR begans to talk about Brad and Angelina and the miserable end to Brangelina.

    I think you are completely right about what kind of marriage they had in the end, what he brought into it. I bet there was a painting of Jen, there was a sex tape or pics out there. I remember Ted C talking about pics of Brad having anal sex with Jen and it was on film and someone got the pics and they were desperate to get them back. That was when they were early married. Someone at Panache said they saw the tape of Jen and Brad having anal sex, so IDK if that is true, but I bet they buried that quick if it is true. I think Jen did have a sweet and innocent love for Brad.

    It is hard to know where to devide the thought process from Jen-Brad-Angelina on this. This part still sounds like it is still part of Jen and Brad , but it may not all be-

    initiation in two more mysteries…completed the drawings…bulldyke…blessings with her left hand…metaphysical quality…precarious balance…hermaphrodite…painter of intimate pictures…right down to her red beard…likes to poke fun of his “doting” mother of six…a few pesetas

    Some of the above could be Brad and Angelina, because then it goes into the end of Brangelina with Inglorious End-

    inglorious end…theknife of the gypsy…bleak, black period…craves for intellectual milk…the odd cabaret…applauded farces…process of assimilating it…instantly mesmerized…like a racehorse reined in…nevertheless beholden to no one and owed them nothing…doble cara…farsante…traidor…El backstabereroooeroo!!

    This last part is clearly (at least to me, talking about Brad and Jolie splitting up, it is over, she is back stabbing him, it is a dark times, one of them craces for intellectaul company, the circus is over, they have both put on the fraud, now one of them is trying to process this into a more mainstream life..one is being heldback like a racehorse, by either the custody, the image, work, whatever, one was instantly mesmerized, now that could be Brad and gaga girl or that could be Ho over Obama or Ho over Clinton. Either way which ever one of them it is, they do not feel beholden to anyone, they do not feel they owe anyone anything, they plan to go after that desire. Now that could just as easily be HO mama as it could be dumb dumb. Then it says double cross, fraud, traitor. Now who in your mind does that fit the best? To me that fits her better, but to some that fits him better. I tend to think he is a cheat and a liar but not a deceitful manipulator that would step over people to get what he wants, but IDK. shrug..

    This is one we will just not know with out help from Ian or SR but I am trying to remember what things they have both said over the last few weeks and it just sounds to me, like she is double crossing him by tring to say the kids are not legally his, by maybe adding one more, and she may add his name to that one to unify them against his wishes, that she will not let him always be daddy..she is the one that has been fucking around for the last 4 years…

    The first part, not sure why SR told us, except to say that Jen was not the sexual animal Brad wanted her to be, but I bet he wishes to hell now he could have someone like her back. I bet after all the wild shit he has been through with this sexual deviant he is ready for some tender sweet love. just a feeling, maybe not with her, but with someone.

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  142. Angie's Fax Machine said on April 9th, 2009 at 9:20 pm

    @Kate:
    Thanks for looking over my post and replying. I think this whole thing is mainly about JA. BP and AJ are mentioned, but I think it focuses more on JA. I think this is giving us a background on what it was that ended the marriage from JA’s perspective. This is about how JA felt and feels. Remember, JA has also held back a lot like a reined horse. JA is mesmerized by them and the utter bullshit they spread about her… the smear campaign against her. JA holds back. She hardly ever defends herself.

    SR’s other post about Brangie’s turmoil talks more about that break-up IMO. But this is JA’s.

    She likes short skirts. Does she like to wear them or does she like them on other women? Lipstick lesbians? Maybe he likes when she wears short skirts so she wore them for him. That reminds me of that mini black cocktail dress she wore to a recent premiere. She looked super hot. Was that retribution?

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  143. Kate said on April 9th, 2009 at 10:08 pm

    @Angie’s Fax Machine:
    SR said at one point we were getting warmer when someone said Brad and Jen had threesomes. at first she did not want to , then she liked it, then someone said that he wanted her so have a threesome with Jolie and she said no way ..

    I D K , I guess we will have to wait and see. I don’t see the whole point of this considering Jen wants him back now and would do anything to get him back according to Ian. lol

    I honestly would not be surprised to see them back together one day.

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  144. teague said on April 10th, 2009 at 9:43 am

    Anonymous insider has posted this on various websites for a few years now:
    -JA and BP marriage was a show, she didn’t love him
    -Vaughn, Sculfor, Bouma, Mayer all fake relationships for PR
    -Last person Jen had sex with was Brad
    -She is in love with someone hidden who she has had plans to marry since before TBU
    -Hidden man was backstabbed by the academy which has something to do with herplaying games on the public
    -Her and Brad talk and she will be his BFF

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  145. dilbo said on April 10th, 2009 at 10:30 pm

    ^^^^loads of crap, if you believe than you would believe anything
    so according to this so called insider person jen and brad were just for show and she has had a hidden boyfriend snce her divorce yet the las person she has ever slept with is brad pitt when they were married lmao the whole thing makes no sense and just shows how the person makes things up as they go sometimes forgetting the lies he/she told before

    what the hell will the adcademy have to do with her private life/ its not like she is even an oscar actress or having the chance of winning one at the moment so i doubt her life choices are affected by the academy board LOL

    THE PERSON SOUND LIKE CRAZY PERSON THAT GOES ROUND IN CIRCLE

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  146. Kate said on April 11th, 2009 at 11:44 am

    L@Keane:
    hey Keane reading back over how you interpreted this I think you are right in all of it, but have one thought-
    The title suggests that Jen “likes” the ladies in present term, and we can see that Brad at some point in the marriage introduced her to threesomes, and so if it is true she liked it rather than not is SR saying she still does, is he saying she has switched teams ? If that is true then is Ian wrong about Jen wanting to get back with Brad? He said he stands by that source. When SR said getting warmer that is the direction it was going, but if that is true why would she care if he ran off with Jolie if she is now
    Into girls?

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  147. p said on April 11th, 2009 at 12:39 pm

    @Kate: Well with that interpretation, it’s because they had agreed to beard each other. Plus that doesn’t mean she has/had NO attraction to and love for men.

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  148. Gitano said on April 11th, 2009 at 2:16 pm

    Funny how new meanings emerge when you come back to these. “Mounted picador” could be a strap-on phallus. And Jen “likes short skirts” could be taken at face value meaning that she actually likes to wear short skirts to show off her legs as she did on some interview. Or who typically wears short skirts? School girls, women who want to come across as younger than they are. I resist the thought, but is Jen also into women of a tender age, that is girls?

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  149. p said on April 11th, 2009 at 2:53 pm

    Gitano: . “Mounted picador” = strap-on . . I like.

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  150. Keane said on April 11th, 2009 at 4:00 pm

    @ gitano – yep that had ocurred to me too.

    @ Kate – yes which would explain why she’s had all these public fauxmances and not a genuine, serious relationship with a man. Could it be that she’s more into girls sexually these days but has not fallen in love with any of them. Is still in love with Brad, but would still want to have sex with girls. If you take Brad out of the equation for this intrepretation as you said before it does work. The only bit that made us think he was involved was the “defiant and all-powerful bit”, how would that fit with Jen. I’m thinking now that the first part is all about her. The blessings with the left hand thing must have a dufferent interpretation – could just be a ref to homosexuality. If you read through that whole first piece, there is no real reference to a man. And yes “mounted picador” must be a dildo – it’s a “mounted prick”, defo. Its the next bit that is then hard to interpret, as we thought it was about him, but is it in fact about her?

    “a few pesetas…inglorious end…theknife of the gypsy…bleak, black period…craves for intellectual milk…the odd cabaret…applauded farces…process of assimilating it…instantly mesmerized…like a racehorse reined in…nevertheless beholden to no one and owed them nothing…doble cara…farsante…traidor…El backstabereroooeroo!!”

    “a few pesetas…inglorious end” could refer to the end of the contract with John Mayer, it was pretty inglorious for her.

    “the knife of the gypsy” – when Ange threw the knife about her and Brad falling in love on set.

    If the rest was about her then it would suggest she’s going for an intellectual type, is it a woman who is already in a relationship with a friend of hers, hence the double-crosser, backstabber, not owing anyone anything bit? From the title it does seem like the whole post should be about her.

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  151. Kate said on April 11th, 2009 at 6:52 pm

    Well if the rumors are true of her stalking JM I would say he is the backstabber, but I think Brad is part of this also as the beginning he is the all powerful not Jen, she may be the defiant one.

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  152. dilbo said on April 11th, 2009 at 10:29 pm

    jen being cosy with her film director

    http://img268.imagevenue.com/img.php?im … 203lo.jpg#
    and there are many more

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  153. Patty anne said on April 15th, 2009 at 9:04 pm

    @Keane:
    No, can’t be. Jennifer suffered a miscarrage during the first two years of her marriage with Brad…..

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  154. borderlinesanadaline said on April 20th, 2010 at 7:35 pm

    Hi guys I am new…….just my two cents: balance…hermaphrodite….painter. I believe this means, STRONGLY, JMO though….JA loved BP so much-she even stated that “one of the problems was, is that I loved him too much……” and assuming he is bi, JA being ‘the painter’ balanced his sexual appetite for a while by (please excuse how gross this is….but I also posted on Angie’s thread on Lady Ga Ga, ‘completing the training at home’ BDSM term (training) with a strap on dildo. It is called an_l training. IMO, JA was getting further and further upset with his sexual taste and she grew distant. And who better than to introduce him to BDSM…who had admitted she loves it? Hmmmmmmm….? JMO

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