IUC Exclusive: Angelina Jolie History Month Part IV – Were kids really the issue in Brad’s breakup with Jen?
In part 3 of Angelina History month, I briefly touched on one of the miracles that helped launch Angelina on the path to Sainthood: the incredible and rapid shift in public sympathy towards Jennifer Aniston from scorned woman to deranged stalker who can’t let go. It is only this shift that enabled American women to change their allegiances from Jen to Angie. All the more remarkable because polls showed that women overwhelmingly sympathized with Aniston following the public breakup and saw Angie as a cold, calculating, manipulative husband-stealer. How, then, did Jolie manage to win the hearts of women in such a short time while reducing Aniston to a caricature? In part 3, I implied that this miracle was achieved as fraudulently as the ones attributed to her fellow saint, Mother Theresa. But let’s take a closer look at exactly how it was achieved.If one were to poll Americans today about why Brad left Jen for Angie, they would overwhelmingly cite one factor and one factor alone: Brad wanted kids, Jen didn’t. She didn’t want to put her thriving career on hold to start a family, despite Brad begging her to have kids. How do they know that? Because they read it or heard it somewhere. Everybody knows that. Didn’t Brad himself admit it? Or was it Jen?
I always thought the same thing. The sheer volume of media reports
at the time reporting on the kids factor meant that there must have been something to back the claim up. And when Brad and Jolie started increasing their brood almost as fast as Octo-mom, it proved how much Brad must have always wanted children. How could that bitch Jennifer refuse to give Brad the family he always wanted? Look how happy he seems in all those photo shoots holding his babies.So being an investigative journalist, I decided to look for the interview where somebody – Jen or Brad – first talked about Jen’s decision to put her career over starting a family. Either I’m the worst journalist since Judith Miller (look her up) or no such interview exists. I did find literally tens of thousands of articles reporting the story. But each of them were either unsourced or quoted a “friend” of Jen or Brad. In 2004, Jen did tell Oprah that she didn’t want to have kids while she was on “the show” (Friends), but then added, “this new chapter is perfect” and called the prospect of having a baby “exciting.” Around the same time, she told Diane Sawyer, “”I’ve liked working right now — I really love it. But I also feel that this’ll be probably the most important job I’ll ever do, having a baby, so that deserves time like my career deserves time.” Around the same time, Aniston and Pitt added a nursery to their home. Soon after these interviews, Pitt took up with Jolie.
Have I failed in my quest to find the source of the original story? Not exactly. Two different people that are usually reliable have now told me that it was Angelina Jolie who personally orchestrated the campaign to rehabilitate her image at a time when she was being savaged for “stealing” Brad from Jen.
“It was Angelina who came up with the whole story about Jennifer not wanting to have kids,” said one source connected to her publicity machine at the time. “She was convinced that is the story that would resonate with all these women that saw her as a man-stealing bitch.”
Why should you believe my source any more than the aforementioned anonymous “friends”? You shouldn’t. But let’s take a look at what one of the main players had to say.
Personally, I’ve always been disgusted by the sexist double standard that blames the woman who broke up the marriage instead of the man who actually committed the adultery, thereby breaking his vows. So let’s not go placing all the blame on Angie. Brad Pitt has not been exactly innocent in this sordid tale. In retrospect, however, he has not been as much a prick as most of his fellow adulterers in this long-standing Hollywood tradition. And that’s been part of his problem. Rather than acting like the typical cad, filing for divorce, and taking up with another woman, Pitt apparently engaged in a long ill-conceived drawn out charade to avoid hurting the woman he always called his “best friend.” His denials at first that he was sleeping with Jolie were ludicrous, of course, but they appeared to be designed to avoid hurting Jen. Of course, they ended up humiliating her instead for an extended period of time. And I suppose it could be argued that he carried on the charade because it would have hurt his own public image and career. Ok, nevermind, the guy’s a prick. But here’s what struck me when I was trying to find evidence that Jen didn’t want kids. Not only did Brad go out of his way in almost every interview to demonstrate remorse for what he did to Jen, but he did something else of note. He denied strenuously and convincingly the myth that he wanted kids and Jen didn’t. Listen to his own words:
Asked by GQ in 2005 about the rumor that he wanted kids and Jen didn’t, he responded: “That was one version, and total bullshit, by the way.” In a primetime interview with Diane sawyer the same year, she asked him if was true that his marriage ended because he wanted children and Aniston did not. His response? “Ridiculous bullshit.” He went on to call the reports “completely fabricated.” Each time he’s been asked about the story, Pitt has issued similar denials. In one interview, he even implied that it was him who wasn’t ready to have a baby when he was with Aniston and that only when he met Jolie did he know that he was meant to be a father. Mystery solved, sort of. Is Brad aware that it was Angelina who orchestrated the hurtful campaign against Jennifer in order to qualify for Hollywood canonization? Probably not, but who really knows?
We often forget that Hollywood is all about illusion and that whatever we think we are watching off the screen is just as scripted and fictitious as the epic stories we pay to watch at the Cineplex. The fun only really begins when the illusion begins to dissolve and we get to watch the carefully crafted spin unravel before our eyes. In that spirit, 2009 should be an eye-opening year as we get to watch the Brangelina saga take a fascinating turn as we watch the claws come out, the accusations, the custody battle and six children used as pawns in the most entertaining and disturbing Hollywood battle since Ben Hur.
Will we learn a lesson from observing the fiasco that’s coming to doubt the illusion the next time a fake golden couple is presented for us to swallow? Of course not.
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I don’t think Angelina ever did manage to win over the majority of the female population. Sure she has a female fan base that I would guess is made up of mostly young unwed mothers like herself (think octomom). But I do believe the majority of women in this country still relate to Jennifer Aniston. Yes, Brad did deny that having children was not the reason for the breakup. I think it’s the media, and Jolie’s fan base, that keeps that going.
ReplyWhat happened to all that charity money anyway? Where did the 14 million from the twins pics go anyway?
ReplyI think the money went to their foundation…convenient, huh?
ReplyAnd yes, the ones who support this bizarre homewrecker are women who themselves are homewrecking whores who justify it by saying the marriage was already in trouble or they’re too young to fully understand the impact of a marriage that ends due to infedility and think it’s no big deal. It is a big deal. MARRIAGE IS A BIG FUCKING DEAL! Don’t do it unless you’re prepared to fight for your love and stay in it as a team.
Ya know, gays can’t get married because conservative America thinks it’s a slight against the institution of marriage but how is JLO’s and Britney’s quickie marriages and divorces or Elizabeth Taylor’s countless marriages not a slight on the institution of marriage? These stupid hollywood types have NO respect for marriage, committment or working through the hard times. It’s bizarre that they can marry and divorce a million times over but a truly loving and committed gay couple of 25 years have no rights to legal marriage?
Bizarre.
Sorry. Had NO intention as a married hetero of going off on gay marriage rights but my point is that these hollywood celebrities are the one’s making a joke out of the institution of marriage and it is sad.
ReplyWhat the heck is all this to your life, people? This is so pathetically ordinary. I see no difference between Brangelina’s (alleged) story and my neighbor’s conjugal issues, they’re both as boring as watching the paint dry.
ReplyI always suspected that Angelina responsible for at least putting out the fiction that “You can’t steal a man who is unhappy in his marriage”. That sentiment is only partly true. Then there were also stories in the media about JA being unable to move on and holding a “pity party”. Although JA has admitted that the split was hurtful, I have never seen her ask for sympathy. It doesn’t surprise me that Angelina is probably behind the story that Brad wanted kids and JA didn’t. I know that HW marriages aren’t known for their longevity and homewreckers are a dime a dozer but THE WAY Angelina did her homewrecking has always disgusted me. She didn’t just steal JA’s husband; she sought to damage her reputation and make her an object of ridicule. I am a strong believer in karma, and if anyone deserves to be on the receiving end of it, Angelina does.
Reply@surreal:
ReplyThat’s exactly how I feel, Surreal. It was actually quite surreal watching her singlehandedly reduce Jen to a punchline.
In April 2004 Jolie admitted to “Taking a new lover”, this could only have been Pitt. Conveniently the article is missing. Then there was the January 2005 “shoulder to cry on” reports from the Tabloids that weren’t denied until Vanity Fair in May.
The Tabloid press at the time latched onto the “shoulder to cry on” for weeks and both of them ignored it, effectively throwing Jen und the bus. From that point forward Jen was the career obsessed bitch. And don’t be fooled by Jen’s comments that there are no villains. There is, she knows it but dare not say or the machine will go after her again.
ReplyColleen – well if you’re posting here it would imply that you cared wouldn’t it, otherwise wouldn’t you be doing something more useful with your time? I’ve never understood the argument of the poster who says “this is all so boring and irrelevant, who cares?”, yet continues to comment. If you don’t care, go elsewhere.
And I personally am outraged by the treatment of Jennifer Aniston by Jolie’s PR machine and in consequence, her fans. A quick peak at the most loathsome of all gossip blogs, Just Jared, will give anyone an insight into Angelina’s fan army (admittedly usually the same few people posting over and over again), who will literally pour vitriol on every word uttered or move made by the totally inoffensive Jennifer Aniston. Her main crimes are that she is single; 40; has no children; is not as pretty as Angelina; can’t keep a man; can’t get over Brad and is envious of/copies everything Queen Angelina does. The words they use to describe her truly disgust me (”Fugly Maniston for one) and they use every weapon in their power to belittle and deride her. Their atttitude is that after 4 whole years she should have got over her 8 year relationship with the man she committed to staying with for the rest of her life and just move on. They believe it is absolutely pathetic that she hasn’t done so and if it had happened to them they would have got over it years ago. Obviously it sounds very much like they are all teenagers who probably have never even been in love let alone been married so they don’t have a clue what they’re talking about but still. Also it amazes me that what they all fail to understand is that if their beloved idol Angelina wanted their man (like she wanted Laura Dern’s and Aniston’s) then she would happily take him too without a hint of remorse. But their very delusional fantasy is that Brad and Ange are both the love of each other’s lives and they could never possibly want anyone else. God knows what they’ll think when they find out its over, maybe choose between Team Jolie and Team Pitt?
But I think the main reason they loathe Aniston so is that she has always shown Angelina up by her very classy and dignified handling of the whole thing. Apart from one extremely mild comment after 4 long years of having Brad and Ange’s relationship shoved in her face by their very high profile media campaign, she has not levelled a word of criticism at Angelina and the strongest phrase she ever used to describe Brad was that he was “missing a sensitivity chip”. How that woman has restrained herself from calling that woman an unstable, selfish, homewrecking whore I would never know, that’s what I would have called her if I’d been her! But she hasn’t, she’s kept quiet and while perhaps allowing the criticism of being self-pitying to be levelled at her, her demeanour has only shown Angelina up more in my opinion. And that’s why Jolie’s fans cannot stop hating on her, because she never sinks to Jolie’s level by expressing any anger.
And yeah the whole story about Jen not wanting any kids and how Jolie is some kind of amazing earth mother is utter baloney. I personally wouldn’t be surprised if she had that many kids in so short a space of time simply to keep up this image. How could anyone sympathise with Aniston when Jolie simply doesn’t stop giving Brad more babies? Its extremely devious. But attitudes will change big time if they split and I think it will be disastrous for Jolie’s image. While she has made Pitt seem edgy, he has made her seem more normal. Without him she’ll be just that edgy dangerous single female again, always more threatening to other women. Plus they’ll no longer be able to peddle the line that they’re the love of each others’ lives and the most important thing in the world to them is their children. People will immediately remember how the relationship started and everyone will say, see a relationship which begins with cheating never lasts and everyone will think of Angelina as a woman who broke up a happy marriage again. They’ll also see her as being very irresponsible for bringing so many children into a relationship that was never going to last. Once the myth of their ever-lasting love and family is exploded I think it will be curtains for Angelina in so far as she appeals to women. Unless she can somehow blame Pitt. But I think he will come out of it looking whiter than white like he always does (he’s always been the more sympathetic one of the two) and she will be a bit of an outcast (both in the eyes of the public and HW). And as Angelina goes down in popularity I predict Jen will come back up as everyone realises she was always the nicer woman anyway. But there you go, what goes around comes around. Its a cliche but somehow its always true.
ReplyI’ve read somewhere (not sure if it was here) that Angelina visited Brad at his and Jen’s home… is that true? Was Jen home? What’s the deal with that and why hasn’t that been mentioned more? I think that’s pretty low classy and indicative of the kind of character Brad/Angie lack.
ReplyI want to know what the deal is with the twins and why has things been so hush hush with their births.
ReplyFFS, I don’t think Angelina has “won the hearts of women”. She just makes good movies and people respect her work!
ReplyI knew she was behind the whole, “Jen wouldn’t give him babies” bs. Jolie is one manipulative cunning bitch.
ReplyIs Ian aware that there are other celebrities in Hollywood besides Brad and Angie?
And Keane, sheesh….enough with the fucking NOVELS. You put way too much energy into this shit. (Yes, I scan/skip your posts, so don’t bother telling me to do so)
ReplyOhFuckingPLEASE – I really wasn’t gonna bother telling you to scan/skip my posts, I really couldn’t give a flying fuck what you do love. My posts are a conversation with other intelligent people on this board, not you sweetheart. And it actually takes VERY little energy hun, I guess writing is much harder when you’re developmentally challenged…
ReplyThe reason that there is no interview where Jen said she was passing on children for her career is that before she and Brad split up, it was a public nonissue. No one cared–they seemed happy enough and certainly having a good time.
ReplyI don’t mean to sound superficial, but has anyone noticed how Brangelina’s looks have gone down in the years they’ve been together? They started so fresh and attractive;now they look haggard and worn out. Raising an army of kids could be wearing, but it can’t be that hard since they allegedly have nannies. Meanwhile, JA looks as cute as she did 5 years ago, hee hee.
ReplyKeane, yes, that must be what it is. You don’t put any thought/energy into your posts. Liar.
ReplyHave a nice day, and keep digging up your dirt honey.
I went to college with a woman who admitted that she preferred men who were attached over men who were single because she felt that attached men were more of a challenge, and therefore validated her worth. She rationalized her ways with that old narcissist’s excuse, you can’t steal a man who’s truly in love. Bull shit. She was as devious as they came, preying on even the slightest of a man’s dissatisfactions. And who among us doesn’t have something about their beloveds that annoys them, even just a little? So if she wanted a man, she would become his best pal, purely platonic at first, then get him to admit a few things about his sig other that annoyed him (or maybe get him to identify a void he felt), fan that flame and then suddenly transform herself into exactly the person he didn’t realize (until that moment) he was looking for. Strangely, though, she would never sleep with any man until he admitted to her that he was unhappy in his relationship. This was a code for her. Of course, all the while she was putting all that unhappiness into his head, and tempting his lust at the same time. And when he finally did, she would at that very moment consider him broken up. She thought of the exes as roadkill and always developed an insane hatred towards them, perhaps a reaction born of cognitive dissonance. It was sickening. So, yes, I have known some cold, calculating b****es in my life, but I think Angelina takes transformation and deception to a whole new level, turning herself from an incestuous masochistic goth who vowed never to have children, into a bennetton soccer mom. I only wonder if she really believes in who she has supposedly become, or if she enjoys living a daily act.
ReplyOFP if you did not like what Keane had to say, then you can just skiip mine as well.
Brad Pitt a prick, tried to protect Jen. Brad did not want children with Jen, Brad said just recently he had hit a dead end, and always knew he wanted children but not until Angie, it just happened naturally. Lets revisit this and see just how honest he is being about that, shall we?
I think everyone remembers one of Jens very first interviews after they were married and she was asked about them having children. He wanted 7, she said 2. When, she said 5 years ( I think) he said 2 years. She said, “What , he is giving me a timetable?” Everyone remember that? This is the line that sparked this is one of the main whining points of those who said she did not want children and what prompted Jen to say she did but when Friends was over. The came the renewal contract. Now lets see what Brad had to say.
Vanity Fair Dec 2001 The Center of a Star
“On one hand,” he continues, “I’m hitting my own stride now. On the other hand, I’ll tell you truthfully, I’m completely bored with myself in films. It’s time for me to try either a new direction or new horizons. I have other interests that I want to pursue that mean more to me. I think there’s room to go away from it for a while and then you can come back and re-invent. We’ll see where it goes…I find myself looking forward to a family. It’s not that I’m self-absorbed. Anything that’s going to take the focus off myself, I welcome.”
Hmmm , and this is only 2001 and he is looking forward to family. Well I suppose that might be because he had already said he wanted to start a family when they got married.
Lets skip ahead to 2003
USA Weekend June 2003
The two are eager to have children, but they’re still “in rehearsals” for that. He says they’re not at all concerned about a baby interfering with their careers: “We just want to have a good time with each other and work out a few kinks first.”
Cineme Online 2003
Q Woud you deliberately avoid work assignments that would keep you and Jennifer apart for a long time?
A Jen’s everything to me. I’m determined that this business won’t screw up our marriage.
Q What’s your next film?
A I’m working with Nicole Kidman on Mr and Mrs Smith which is directed by Doug Liman who made The Bourne Identity. We play a husband and wife who are both assassins and are hired to kill each other. Simon Kinberg wrote the script. The Hollywood Reporter. has described it as The War of the Roses meets True Lies which gives a useful clue as to where it’s coming from.
Still thinking about it-until about May of 2004 , after mind you he is already fucking Angelina Jolie.
Chicago Sun Times May 2004
Ask him how it feels to have his wife unemployed and he laughs. “Unemployed?” he repeats. “That unemployed woman makes more money than I do!”
He does mention that the last few weeks of the series were rough on the actress.
“She’s saying goodbye to an era that meant very much to her,” he says. “There’s a sadness to it, but Jen is accepting it. There’s also this excitement in her about going into a new era. It’s exciting to stop and ask yourself, ‘Where will I go now?’”
There have been rumors the two will work together.
“We would love it, but when you look at the history of famous couples in movies, well, the odds aren’t with us,” Pitt says.
Perhaps another project is on the horizon: Baby Pitt. “Yeah, it’s time for me to be a father. It’s time. I finally think I’m at a place where I won’t mess them up too much.”
Is Jen in agreement? “Jen’s in agreement that I won’t mess them up too much,” he says, laughing.
Ya think right about here Jen knows something is up, because the tabloids already have him linked to Jolie.
Interview May 14 2004
May 14-2004 -Interview
Q: Are you appalled by the tabloid headlines about you and Angelina?
Pitt: You know I get it. It fits into a lot of archetypes. But at this point we just stay away from it all, because we’ve seen it come and go. But I’ll tell you, I’ve never seen someone as misperceived as Jolie. She’s a really decent person, and really dedicated to her UN work. Very dedicated to her child. I was really surprised – I even had my own perceptions. She’s surprisingly level headed and bright and just decent.
Q: Are you and Jen planning to start a family soon? Are you looking forward to fatherhood?
BRAD: Yeah, it’s time. I think I’m finally at a place where I won’t mess ‘em up too much. (Laughs
Again he admits he wants to have children. He is ready.
Now this one is my very very favorite. Brad Pitt must have a script somewhere that he just reuses , because does this sound familar to anyone, like what he just said in the LA Times about having children
with Angelina Jolie:
“It’s a great time for Jen,” he says. “It’s very interesting because a transition is under way. There’s the melancholy of saying goodbye to an era which was very important to her and gave her some amazing experiences, and now there’s the excitement of the unknown. What’s the next era going to be? She’s right in the middle so there’s a real pleasure and pain to all of this.”
Could the next era involve children?
“A family? No question,” he says firmly. “We’re heading that way. It’s a natural progression for us, and it’s time.”
See that is the thing about a print interview. It is writtien virtually in stone forever.
The truth is Brad did want to have children with Jen. Jen wanted to have children with Brad. She thought they were on the same page until Angelina came along. Whe Brad went back to the second set of filming in August/September that is when he put the stops on having a baby with Jen. Ask Jens friends Ian, if you really want to know the truth, that is who you should be asking.
Jen is once again giving Brad a free pass. In her lates interview that just came out she says it is no ones fault. Now can everyone see what is going on here. Brad and Jen have made up. Just two months ago, Jen was unleashing spitfire , and rightly so. Mommy and Daddy fell in love. Now Angelina did not just say that, Brad Pitt had the nerve to also say it in his RS interview (is that the one) and in the LA Times , the gall to say he hit a dead end? What a guy? Now if this is not enough, we can revisit the W Magazine that he did as she was submitting divorce papers. Pitt tried NOT to jurt Jen. Can anyone look at that and agree, Jen said, “the world was shocked and I was shocked” Brad Pitt is not a prick. He is a lying cheating opportunist that threw his wife under the bus to save his image, and now that he needs her again, he is pulling her back out from under it.
I do believe in forgiveness and redemption. He did use to be a decent man, before Angelina got hold of him. Maybe when these two split they can redeem themselves, but as it stands now, he is worse equally as bad as she is. Just remember, all the while he was making all of those comments and doing those interviews, he was rocking and rolling in the trailer with Jolie, then he would go home to “Jen is a sweetheart, she is the warmth of our home”
Brad Pitt only cares about Brad Pitt jmo
Reply“I had a whole other life and I got to experience a lot. And I probably got away with more than I should,” he says. “And it kind of ran its course, you know, it kind of hit a dead end.” Fatherhood, he notes, is “the direction I always thought I would go in. But not until, with Angie and it felt like a natural evolution, a natural direction.” Dec 2008
“It’s a great time for Jen,” he says. “It’s very interesting because a transition is under way. There’s the melancholy of saying goodbye (Friends)which was very important to her and gave her some amazing experiences, and now there’s the excitement of the unknown. What’s the next era going to be? She’s right in the middle so there’s a real pleasure and pain to all of this.” Could the next era involve children? “A family? No question,” he says firmly. “We’re heading that way. It’s a natural progression for us, and it’s time.” May 2004
So either he is lying about not wanting children with Jen, or he was lying to Jen when he said he did?
Either way he is a liar. Hi Honey I’m Home. How was work today? Banging babe, just bangin! LMAO
ReplyI don’t know Jolie, but i do know people who know BOTH Brad & Jennifer very well and what you wrote is all made up crap.
Brad & Jennifer were NOT a real couple. They were a FAKE HOLLYWOOD couple set up by their agents to BOOST their careers by being a “Golden Couple”. And that makes the entire premise of your article wrong.
And the fact that you don’t know this simple FACT, makes me doubt the legitimacy of anything else you’ve written.
Reply@Friend of a Friend:
Replyyou must be the one that is speading the info around that Brad is bisexual and he hooked up with Jen so he could have his architect friend but she could not handle it. This should be fun, lets see how many people come out that do know Brad or Jen. Let the fun begin. You better check your source , because I have a very strong feeling like steel you are about to get slammed. There are too many that know “them”.
@Keane:
@Kate:
Uh, er… Okay, girls, I officially give up. Exhausted. I’m not gonna lie, you’re by far the worst cases of verbal diarrhea I’ve ever seen on the internet. And to think I’m the one who’s being told I should be doing something more useful with my time… the pot calling the kettle black, LOL! At least I hope you’re entertaining each other… Buh bye
Reply@Friend of a Friend:
How can you be married to someone and not be a real couple? The fact that they were legally wed sort of makes it real, no?
Reply@Friend of a Friend:
If and only if they remained just a hook-up after their agents set them up. Brad and Jen were together for 7 years and you don’t fake the kind of anguish Jen displayed if it’s fake. It’s your premise that is wrong. And your friends don’t know them at all.
ReplyNo one mentioned the script about Daniel Pearl, and how Jen was to produce and star in it. Then Brad Pitt gave it to Angelina Jolie. And then the media propaganda about how Angelina Jolie was “robbed” of an
oscar nomination for the part. They conveniently ignored that Mrs. Pearl is bi-racial, and much smaller and petite compared to Angelina Jolie.
Yes, Jennifer Aniston has been made the villain instead of the victim. There’s the constant “pity party” label that is ascribed to her.
If Angelina Jolie is behind all this, she would have made Hitler proud; for she’s a master at media manipulation. Is it any wonder Octomom uses the same methods? Even used California taxpayers’ monies to have surgery to look like her idol. Now, from what I’ve read it will cost California taxpayers at least 7 million before she’s done. She already has been looking for a home that costs over a million!
But really, if one looks closely at our society even over the last decade, it’s not hard to see that we, the people are easily manipulated!
ReplyKate;
ReplyAs I read your post with the Pitt(iful) quotes, I couldn’t help but say to myself, “Dang, this guy has a female tone to his voice!”
OFP sweetheart, I have no idea what your problem is, I put energy and thought into academic essays and work. This is but idle entertainment and diversion. But believe what you will I honestly couldn’t give a toss. And the only dirt that is being dug up is from Ian’s source, I am merely assessing the media machiantions of Jolie and Pitt and the possible consequences of that for their careers, but whatever babe!
Colleen – your writing style and the content of your posts is strikingly familiar, rather like a previous poster who went by the name of Rhea, friend of yours by any chance? What do you think Kate? Check back over some past Angelina posts where Colleen talks about celebs not sueing because there are too many to fight and that the tabs have big budgets for defending law suits (bullshit). She said it was a “losing fight” for celebs and I did wonder why she cared so much about these poor defenceless multi-millionaire stars….. Interesting huh?
joans – that’s so interesting and in realtion to Kate’s next post, even more so. Angelina wasn’t anything like Brad had been told she was huh, almost like she changed herself to appeal to him…. Maybe I’m being overly-cynical.
Friend of a Friend – everyone knows that Brad and Jen were introduced by their agents who thought it would make good publicity for them, well I certainly knew that anyhow, but you think people have a sexual relationship then get married, over a period of 8yrs for publicity? That would have to be one of the longet, sexiest, most committed showmances in HW history wouldn’t it? Even you know that what you just said was complete bullshit.
Reply@Colleen:
ReplyOh don’t be a party pooper we are just getting warmed up! lol
Friend of a Friend-just wanted to add, there were some pics floating around years back of Braddy boy and Jen Jen, very hedonistic, that they did not want out, and did get out, and they were seen, so according to the person who talking about this, they definitely were not fake. I was kind of surprised Jenny was so ..
anyway Brad built their home around that part of their lives, including a shower. did they fake those pics?
And Colleen as I keep saying honey, if you’re so above it all, why are you here???? Got a vested interest, or something to worry about/defend by any chance? I know its hard for some people to understand but some people just think and type fast, geddit?
Reply@Alif:
W Magazine 2001 October
Pitt is not designing for one anymore. But his wife “definitely has a love” for design, too, he says. Indeed, Aniston was supportive enough to give him a surprise weekend stay at a private Greene and Greene-designed house for his birthday last year.
Remember when Jolie did the same thing and tool Pitt to Loyld’s house or a museum and they stood out in front for a portrait in the snow like Mother Teresea. lol Is there anything she has not copied?
Feminine, in the interview there was one where he asked to do the love scene in Troy, he wanted to be naked to show off his butt because he had worked out so long. He has made many comments that I could refernence that you would scratch your head. The ones about Guy Ritchie..lol
ReplyKate – you can’t leave us hanging on that one, you gotta tell us what you meant by Jen being so…..! But yeah I heard they had the hot sex too. Some people get very sexualised when they’re in love and don’t really care about it when they’re not (I’m one of them). I could see her being that way.
ReplyAnd Kate again, the quotes about Guy Ritchie and so on, gotta spill em!
ReplyI kind of appreciated the butt scenes..just saying.
Reply@Keane:
ReplyKeane dear what is the word hedonism derived from? lol He designed the house around their deeds. Shall I say more. One of Ians friends was in the know of the pictures.
Ian I’m very glad you brought up these points and I agree for the most part. I’m just not sure I’d let Pitt off the hook so easy. In one of the Oceans movie interviews, he feigned a lot of sentimental gobbily-gook-emotion about really, really wanting an army of children. Not WE…I. Even I knew he wasn’t talking about having kids with his 35 yr old wife, nor did I believe for a minute he would adopt on his own. If I knew it, Aniston knew it. It was callous. By all accounts the marriage was in trouble at that point, no one disputes that. I believe he knew what he was doing, and that it was carefully orchestrated. Yeah he DID say it was ridiculous, but if it set he stage for the ostensible basis for his relationship with AJ, that was fine, too bad about that Jen woman. Image first baby, image first. I remember thinking his remarks were inordinately mild considering the barrage of accusation hurled at JA, on the subject. I’d always known she’d wanted kids. His only other choice was to flat-out-lie. Clearly he didn’t need to. He also back-peddled only months before (Spring 2004,] when he said (AGAIN] he was still too selfish to have childre, that’s in print. Looks like he knew himself well. Then came the W mag 50s spread and you KNEW this fuckwit didn’t give a rat’s behind. I have a question, if this is really breaking as bad as your sources say it is, they DO have recourse to report it to child welfare agencies. I did that once and they WILL come to the home and interview everyone. In fact they’ll even interview neighbors. It can be done anonymously, no one need know but it should be done. Children should NOT be exposed to this crap. And if you’re persistent, it will bring things to a head a lot sooner. There may be some phone bureaucracy, getting to the right person in the right agency but you WILL get there and they WILL move on it. All US cities are equipped with these folks. I’d urge whomever is privy to this situation, to move on it NOW. Worry about peoples hurt feelings and angst over face-saving later. And don’t let anyone talk you out of it. Once again a wonderful article Ian, much appreciated. And Keane as always very astute comments.
Reply@Keane:
You’ll never know why I’m immensely flattered and proud of being mistaken for that “Rhea” you’re talking about: it’s my little secret, if you don’t mind.
ReplyHowever, I’m glad that my views are shared by a few sensible people on this crazy star struck planet.
Be happy living in your little world of illusion. I’m definitely done with this deadly boring blog and its deadly boring regulars. My best regards to “Rhea”, though.
Cool Angelina, whatever you say, or is it Angelina’s assistant, James Haven? Which ever! Nice W magazine spread by the way, I never saw those 50’s pics before. Very, how can I say, uh sensitive of you both? You must have had your nose done again since then though, looks much better now, but hey you were always hot so whatever. Again, if the blog and we regulars (a good 2 weeks now surely!) bore you so, I have no idea why you ever came here in the first place. And its good for you that this planet is starstruck otherwise you wouldn’t be sitting in your multi-million dollar mansion. I, however, have worked with enough celebrities to know that they are exactly the same as the rest of us.
Reply@Why Name?:
ReplyShe makes shitty movies and I for one do not respect her work.
@surreal:
Allegedly?
ReplySurely you jest.
Allegedly?
Right, like Cher “allegedly” has had work done on her face.
AGREED! Thank you Ian and thank you Keane for finally articulating what so many of us are thinking. I’m dumb-founded as to who would be stupid and asinine enough to fall for ST. ANGIE – ST. INCEST – ST-BLOOD VIAL CARRYING – BI-SEXUAL’S re-vampification of herself. If she wants to make herself over – fine. why does she need be besmirch another person (a victrim to boot) in the process?
ReplyLet’s face it: we’ll never really know the whole story of Brad and Jen’s relationship/marriage, however, even if Brad Pitt and Jennifer Aniston had never even met each other, that would not changee the fact that Jolie is a manipulative attention whore fraud.
ReplyYou know, I never bought the original Angie either. Her putting herself out there and talking nonstop about “controversial” and “shocking” things simply added to her allure and most of it was just as much bullshit as her St. Angie image. This whore is a narcissist, plain and simple. She cannot get enough of herself and she will find a way to make sure the public can’t either. Madonna is cut from the same cloth. No wonder those two loathe each other. The real Angie is simply just like every other Hollywood narcissistic fame whoring nutjob, no better and no worse. The real story of Hollywood isn’t those fucks. The real story is those who ARE NOT like this. THAT is the rare species.
ReplyAnd Jen was STOOPID to leave her man alone with that man eater! Yeah, ask Melanie Griffith how it’s done. She was on the set EVERY DAY when her husband made a move with that man thief! If she hadn’t been, we might be discussing Angie and Antonio’s 100 kids and the demise of their relationship. Let’s get real. Angie doesn’t want a man for keeps unless he’s taken. It feeds her ever ravenous ego. She will stop at nothing to get what she wants because she is a narcissst, but she is hardly alone in that….Julia Roberts is like that too.
@FFS:
I totally agree. I think everyone is just a bit upset that Brad would get off so easily. He rambled on about babies for 4 years, until mid 2004, the he did quick about face with one of his last interviews, after he declared in the summer how he was soooo ready, that all of a sudden he was not , why, well he just wanted Jen a little bit longer to himself. Piece of work. Brad planned this out carefully. Do we give him the benefit of doubt and say, okay he was confused. He was banging Jolie just for fun but had no intention of leaving and still planned to have the babies with Jen, but then at some point changed his mind? The guy was stringing his whole family along in this. Is he evil and calculated enough to pretend he is going to be having kids with Jen, let her think that, while all the while plan the adoption of Zahara with Jolie. I don’t think he is that smart. A liar yes, confused maybe, but I think Jolie went after him and he just kept getting drawn in deeper and deeper and lied to save his image, and he is still doing it. Will he ever be honest. For Jen to say right now, no one is the villian makes her sound , I don’t even know what to say. She is letting not just him off, but Angelina too. Why?
So now he has his kids and there is going to be a custody battle so says a souce..so does he really think he is going to take all of those children away from Angelina, is that even what he wants to do? Does he even want them or once again is that just about his image? After all how would it looked if he walked away and did not want any of them. I don’t trust him any more than her.
If it were not for the innocent kids caught up in the mess, it would be grand to watch them stuck with each other in their misery til death do them part. lol It is really too bad he is getting out, it was fun watching him be miserable.
Too bad he can not ho back to humble Brad, She can not go back to Angie and Maddox, she seemed happier.
Reply“It was Angelina who came up with the whole story about Jennifer not wanting to have kids,” said one source connected to her publicity machine at the time. “She was convinced that is the story that would resonate with all these women that saw her as a man-stealing bitch.”
and Brad stood by and watched. Yes I agree Ian, 2009 will be quite the show, unless these evil dooers decide to say FU to everyone and stick it out and be miserable just to show us. lol would not put that past them.
nah, you are right, he is a prick and he will not be able to stand it that long.
Reply@Kate:
ReplyLet’s hope to hell this nutjob does NOT get Maddox or any other child. I agree neither REALLY wanted to be parents, beyond what it was worth in publicity.
@Tigerlilly:
ReplyBrad got led around by his dick with AJ, but JA should have seen it coming. That reason she’s not lashing out at him or AJ is the same bullshit that motivates Brangie: PR. Yeah, there’s is better than hers at the moment, but just wait…It’s her PR peeps that are telling her to keep her trap shut. I mean, really! Do you think if we really had the goods on Anniston we would give a shit that she got her man stolen???? Do you REALLY think she’s as likeable, sweet and friendly as we are led to believe? Puhleeze. She MARRIED Brad Shitt, even Jolie wasn’t dumb enough to do that. She’s dating John Mayer, for Christ sake, and where is there a tab WITHOUT a bikini pic of her? ATTENTION WHORE! All these dumbasses deserve what they get unless anything they get is more than a big steaming pile of shit served to them on a silver platter!
I always remember the Oprah Jan 2004 interview that I believe was taped in Nov 2003 on the set of Friends when Oprah asked her if she was going to go home and have babies now that Friends was ending and she said she would have them there in the dressing room and she said she was itching. Brad was such a prick. Kate and Keane, love your analysis.
ReplyHere’s the article where Jolie says Brad was in emotional turmoil cause he longed to be a father for a long time and it hadn’t happened for him. You can find it on IMDB under Newsbreaks for 2005.
Jolie Hits Back at Break-Up Rumors
Reply17 January 2005 | From wenn.com
Angelina Jolie has blasted reports she destroyed Brad Pitt and Jennifer Aniston’s marriage – insisting she was merely a “shoulder to cry on” for the hunky actor. Since Pitt and Aniston announced the end of their union on January 7, Jolie has been the focus of gossips who claim she had an affair with the screen heart-throb on the set of their movie Mr And Mrs Smith – which ultimately ended his marriage. But while 29-year-old Jolie admits she formed a close friendship with Pitt working on the movie last year, she’s rubbished speculation their bond developed into romance. Instead, she hints their marriage was ruined by the non-existence of children in their household. Jolie says, “I’ve been painted as the Wicked Witch of the West and a marriage wrecker. But all I’ve ever been to Brad is a shoulder to cry on. Half the world believes we had an affair and I’m the one to blame for his split. But the truth is I was there to try to help him through his pain. He longs to be a father and he’s been in emotional turmoil for a long time because that hasn’t happened for him.”
@Keane:
> I, however, have worked with enough celebrities to know that they are exactly the same as the rest of us.
That is: utterly uninteresting. Just what I was saying. And oh yeah, I’m actually AJ’s PA, or AJ herself, why not? Dream on, babe, it’s free.
Every time I land on one of those countless gossip boards, I wonder if they’re using internet as an outlet in jails and mental hospitals.
THE END
Reply@Colleen:
ReplyI wondered the same thing when I noticed that you promised to leave this Board three times now but, guess what, you’re still here. The only mystery is exactly what mental illness you suffer from.
Colleen, Rhea, Angelina, whoever, whatever you may be, if your only defence is that what is being said here is dreadfully boring and uninteresting then its not looking too good for you is it? Is that what you’re going to say when you go to court to try to keep your kids? That story about me shagging the pittbull is just utterly boring and uninteresting, why are we even discussing it? Me and my brother had a very long incestuous affair? Who cares, yawn! I’ve been shagging every man and woman I can get my hands on in private while publicly playing devoted partner and mother of the year? How utterly tiresome, why don’t we all talk about some real news like my latest film or the lastest UN cause I’m using to promote myself? That’s going to go down a storm with the judge!!! And to be quite honest I could easily believe that Angelina would be posting here because 1) she is a normal person and normal people, shock, horror, use the internet from time to time 2) she is a celebrity, and if the dirt she has kept under wraps for so many years is being brought into the public sphere, this may make her shit her pants somewhat. And if you find everything I say so utterly tiresome and dull, why not impress up with your rapier wit and intellect? Go on I can tell you’re dying to. Once a show-off, always a show-off. Or maybe you could go take care of those 6 kids of yours like you keep promising (and failing) to do.
Reply@Lindalee:
> The only mystery is exactly what mental illness you suffer from.
Okay, I confess I’ve always looooved to tease people in an unhealthy way. In other words: I’m a troll, and it sounds like my trolling works as hell out here. Satisfied?
@Keane:
OMFG, that nutcase seriously believes I am THE Angelina talking to her face to face! Thanks for the big laugh, dearie, you’re making my day.
ReplyColleen sweetheart, Ian has a source in your staff who is leaking the stories to him. The source has told him you are obsessed with the site, clicking on it hundreds of times a day, petrified about what is about to come out. Then the source told him that you had started to post on here. Other posters very quickly identified you as posting under the name of Rhea and then Rhea’s posts miraculously stopped dead. Then someone took up the mantle again the other day responding to a post I’d made about how papers can’t use half the stories they get for fear of being sued by a different multi-millionaire celeb every week. You (as “Colleen”) came back with the argument that celebs don’t bother to sue because there are so many false stories printed about them they would be doing it all the time, which is bollocks because they do sue if they think they can win (see CZJ and MD). This is in fact the standard excuse used by celebs to justify why they don’t sue if a particularly damaging story is printed about them which most of the public is convinced by, unless of course they work in the media industry and know better. And we both know tabs don’t have big budgts to fight libel lawsuits, too many lawsuits and the paper would be history, which is why they continue to fill their pages with bullshit stories supplied to them by PRs. Don’t be so arrogant as to assume I don’t know how the game works.
So it was pretty obvious to me that “Colleen” was in fact “Rhea” going by another name, especially when you lamented the plight of celebs battling supposedly false stories about them as a “losing fight”. If you want us to think that wasn’t written from the perspective of a celeb then you must think we’re all pretty stupid. And then to come on this thread and try to dismiss everything as “boring” only confirmed it to me. People come on to gossip blogs either to argue for or against the post or a comment that’s been made underneath it. I have never in my life seen anyone bother to comment on a post to the effect that everything written here is boring and you don’t care (if you genuinely didn’t you wouldn’t bothe posting at all!). And then when you said you were “immensely flattered and proud” to be mistaken for Rhea and for what reason that was, was your secret – bit of a giveaway don’t you think? You’re either a big fan of yourself (as some people think) or all your staff are sycophants/loons too. Either way, you’ve made it quite obvious who you are. And as I said, it would be no great shock if Angelina Jolie were posting here to me, celebs use the interwebs too, Gwyneth loves her GOOP for example. Maybe you’re doing this during the long periods of waiting around during filming. But as I said, if you find what is being said so terribly dull, you could always introduce a topic of conversation that would be more interesting to you. As boring as you say you find this, you still can’t keep away!
ReplyAnd Colleen/Angelina – I’ve met celebrities as famous as you sweetheart, my former boss is bezzie mates with Gwyneth/Madonna/Stella/all the designers, its no big deal to me! I really wouldn’t be jizzing in my pants (as Michael K would say) if I was talking to Angelina Jolie.
Reply@Keane:
Jesus Christ, I’m speechless. What am I supposed to say, frankly? “Okay, you won, I’m Rhea and Rhea is Angie”? I’m just torn between hilarity and pity. God knows I’ve met a bunch of sickos on the internet, but YOU take the cake.
Matron, please, don’t forget poor Keane’s blue pills, they’re badly needed.
Reply@Lindalee:
ReplyLOL LOL LOL LOL LOL spitting out my Propel. I needed that too.
Colleen/Rhea/Angie/whoever, in the light of the stories published on IUC so far I would say calling me a “sicko” is rather like the pot calling the kettle black don’t you think? Come on now!
And as for the mental hospital references and “remember to take your medecine” type comments, its slightly hypocritical when the only one of us who has ever been admitted to a mental hospital is you. Not that there’s anything wrong with that of course, its an illness like any other, just one that I don’t personally suffer from. And say what you will, its pretty obvious who’s been posting here and under what usernames. Anyone who’s posted on gossip blogs much before will know that your common or garden poster doesn’t come on to these type of sites to say how boring and irrelevant the post is or to lament the plight of the poor celebrity. They either attack the post or defend it. You were more convincing as “Rhea”. Anyway take it easy, and apart from all your dramas, I hope life is well.
Reply@Keane:
but only good. She should be on set now, not on this board don’t you think.
ReplyI kinda of thought it was Teresa, ya know, Mother Teresa, thought she might find some humor in that, and I don’t think Angelina would resort to this type of bling blang back and forth. Asking though if someone has a inside source, yeah. Plus Teresa had some very unbiased things to say .
Just my two cents. I think Colleen is too well spoken (or written) to be Angie herself.
ReplyAnyone see her movie, did they ever say Matron get her the pills? lol IDK Who says Matron?
Reply@Colleen:
ReplyDeadly boring, like bored as a horse that does not know it is dead? lol
@Colleen:
another boring, this time as paint drying, that is sort of like a horse that does not know it is dea? don’t ya think?
you may be right Keane. lol I am just amusing myself.
Reply@ Kate – well that’s what I mean, actors spend most of their time on set waiting around for the hour or two in the day when they actually get to do anything. That’s why so much inter-co-star banging goes on, it kills the time. Maybe there are not hot people on this particular set who knows? Do you mean the person formerly posting here under the name of Teresa, nah, totally different writing style and she would have stuck with her original name. Its obvious who it is, check back over the past threads (quite a few ago)where she talks about celebs not being able to sue papers because there are too many of them. She says its a “losing fight” – the whole tone of it is exactly what celebs says to explain why they haven’t sued over damaging stories, and its bullshit. Plus there’s the post above where she says she’s “immensely flattered and proud” to be mistaken for Rhea, and the reason why “is her little secret”. So whether Rhea was Angie or her PA or whoever, or the other way around, its pretty obvious where its coming from.
@ NoName – Angie’s not stupid at all, she’s articulate and constantly talks about the books she’s reading on politics, religion etc. She’s not dumb by any means.
Reply@Keane:
Yes , I agree, as soon as Ian said she was posting Rhea was MIA. I went back and read Teresa’s, she is just asking everyone to have a open mind and saying some of it may be true. maybe not.
Rhea , and Colleen do give themselves away in speech pattern.
Reply@Colleen:
#
ery time I land on one of those countless gossip boards, I wonder if they’re using internet as an outlet in jails and mental hospitals.
THE END
Reply
That is another example, if someone is not interested in all of this, who would fess up to going to that many boards? lmao
Reply@Colleen:
olleen said on March 2nd, 2009 at 11:34 am
What the heck is all this to your life, people? This is so pathetically ordinary. I see no difference between Brangelina’s (alleged) story and my neighbor’s conjugal issues, they’re both as boring as watching the paint dry
I like this one, what the heck is all of this to your life? That sort of sounds like Brad, yes? LOL but we know it is not. sigh so wonder why she did not defend banging him in the trailer, guess that would be too obvious, might be someone on here that was on set…ha ha
Reply@ g 11.24pm
ReplyI haven’t heard about this article but what a calculating,manipulative lying whore this woman is.I can’t wait for Ian and SR to bring this class’A’ bitch down,she and pitt deserve whatever is coming to them although judging by jen aniston’s interview in Elle mag i fear she will be a shoulder to cry on for pitt(what an arsehole he is)
@ Keane
I think you have colleen/rhea/jolie/jolies pa well worked out.They are having such a hard time with your articulate,truthful,sensible posts because as you know narcissistic sociapaths don’t do Logic!Btw does anybody know why there are so many names in jolies family i.e voight,haven,bertrand? Would have thought jolie and james would have both stayed voight after divorce or took their mother’s ‘made up’ name.
Yeah well its quite a strange way of trying to quieten a story, by posting on the website that publishes it. I mean, what does it matter what we think? What matters is if these stories get picked up by a bigger news outlet and start getting a bit more attention. Posting on here isn’t gonna stop that. The only way to stop that would be to get lawyers involved, but I suspect there may be a problem with that….
Reply@ Kate 1.32pm
ReplyHaha,very good use of sarcasm!
Marcheline Bertrand was her mother’s stage name, chosen to make herself sound more French, her real name is Marcia something. I assume Jolie and Haven are either middle names or stage names too.
ReplyDo you know what Keane i think this site with these posts are building momentum,i just get that feeling,ya know like a ‘dominoe’ effect. Ruffling somebody’s feathers anyways!
ReplyI have a question. If a member of the staff is leaking all this damning information, why has the suspected one[s] not been fired, or is that about to happen
Reply@ Keane
ReplyThanks for clearing that up for me.While you are here did you ever hear anything about jolie’s fake pregnancy rumors,and her pa holly supposedly having children for her.Considering she is a master manipulator i’m suprised she allowed a negative rumour like this to get out.Dya think SR will uncover it if there is something to be uncovered? just a thought!
@ p
ReplyPerhaps it’s someone in brad’s camp,maybe even brad himself,because it the leaked stuff seems to be more detrimental to jolie than pitt!
@ topbrit – on this one you know more than me I have to say, I’ve never heard of who her PA is although I did hear a story a while ago saying she was one of her best friends and confidantes but that she wanted to quit so she could have time for herself. I don’t know whether this happened or not though. I’m guessing that Colleen is probably the PA from the comment that she “is immensely flattered and proud” to be mistaken for Rhea which gave it away immediately for me. Well what a surprise, Angelina’s PA and best friend is a total sycophant and idol-worshipper too, what a shock! Not like Angelina to surround herself with people who kiss her arse and tell her how great she is huh? Seriously, even the staff are loons!
ReplyYeah,Holly Galine i think her name is,she was pregnant exactly the same time as jolie,even same months apparentley,they were both pictured together at Cannes when she was promoting Kung Fu Panda.They looked very similar,both looked like they were very near due date.Come to think of it,the birth dates of the twins courts a lot of controvery and rumours too.Oh i wish someone on here could enlighten us with more tidbits!
ReplyDoes anybody else know of these rumours! Jolie and Holly were both ‘pregnant’ at the same time,even at the same stage of pregnancy together. They were pictured together at Cannes when jolie was promoting Kung Fu Panda.The rumour was that holly had given birth to the twins as surrogate and jolie wore pregnancy suit( you know bit like the arse and hip pads she wears now) There was a report jolie had given birth in July i think but this was denied and explained away by saying someone in jolies camp had sent the press an email stating she had given birth already and they were subsequentley sacked.Officially the twins were born in August i think,it was very contreversial i must say.Can anybody enlighten me more!
ReplyI love how there is an actual new post NOT about Angie, and no one has commented there. Too funny. You people are obsessed with Angie……
ReplyTopbrit, I vaugely remember something about the PA being pregnant at the sametime, but not enough to bring anything more to the discussion.
ReplyKeane, I’m an avid fan of your writing, keep up the awesome work!
@topbrit:
ReplyBTW I have known the tabloids to falsely report stories or at least take them out of context. These papers skew stories for their audience which is *mainly* bored housewives. They came up with a story that a star was leaving a show [which was true and I suspect the press at large knew it] and it had to do with problems with his wife…the on line jackals had a field day with that one. In fact there were several reasons he left, the most known one was an awful tragedy the family faced. But the other reason he left, [long suspected by MOST fans] was that after the head writer left, his character went straight down the straight the down the proverbial toilet (which btw fans yowled about all season]. But that wouldn’t have appealed to the paper’s readers who LOVED the assy romance the writer’s stuck in, so they’d not only dislike that reason, they’d resent it (shipper types]. His co-star eventually DID cite that as a major reason for his departure btw. But at the time they all stayed mum about it about the artistic conflicts. Anyways the tab (STAR I think] clearly did no research as they got key facts totally wrong making the story bogus. There was also a story a few years back, that TomKat was definitely splitting (tho it’s certainly not beyond imagination.] They didn’t. I’m not saying the stories HERE are false, they DO seem to have very solid sources and the allegations fit the knowns, at least to me…but they aren’t always and I wouldn’t give tabloids a blank cheque either.
@ OhFuckingPLEASE
ReplyMaybe that is because ‘Brangelina’ are imploding as we speak(which is great to know btw) and i for one want to be around to see ‘Karma’ happen.Anyway it’s quite refreshing to hear true comments on the brange rather than,omg beautiful couple,so in love,suck it maniston,god bless joliepitt etc etc blah blah ,dontcha think!
Is it true Angelina is posting on here? Hey, Angie.. can I get Brad’s phone number??? lol…lol..lol..
Reply@ p
ReplyThanks for the ‘heads up’,i didn’t believe this particular rumour but i did begin to wonder as all these other ‘facts’ become public just what is true or false,if you know what i mean.
I think this site should be renamed BringAngieDown.com
Replylol
@OhFuckingPLEASE: I’m sure there’s a site with that name out there already
Reply@topbrit:
I heard about the rumors of Holly being Angie’s surrogate. It was discussed at length on femalefirst. That is the only place where I saw the rumors. And crabbieshollywood picked it up because of the girls over at FF. There were some good arguments posted there. Personally, I’m not sure either way. But I do think she wore padding a lot of the time to make herself look bigger. I think Holly has only surfaced once since the birth. And there have been no photos of her with her “kid”. So, who knows?
Keane: I never said Angie was not smart. I just meant that she is not that articulate in live interviews. A lot of umms, ahhs, and the like. Most of the time she doesn’t speak in complete sentences. But I have not seen the interviews of which you speak. (Maybe I’m watching the wrong interviews. Although I can’t stand to watch them now as she bores me to death with her droning on and on). It has been suggested that Trevor might have written the answers she has given in interviews (given she had the questions prior, of course).
ReplyToprit: I forgot to add. By what I heard it was ET that said Jolie had given birth and that it was someone in her camp (Holly) who sent them the info. It was alluded that they might have sent this info on purpose. I think afterwards there was a big hoopla and ET stood by their story. If I recall, there was a big to do about the whole thing. But my memory might be wrong. You want info on this stuff I suggest you go to FF, those women know everything there is to know. Although it can get a little crazy over there at times.
Reply@topbrit:
ReplyI’m not saying I have an inside track on it or anything…you know nothing would surprise me about these two, nor about the pregnancy, although that story sounds a bit far-fetched. You maybe right about the leaking coming from pitt’s camp. Maybe they’re no longer making mutual decisions about who stays and who goes. Also I thought it was funny when AJ was scouting flats uptown they said she was location scouting. One thing, why was the press there at all, and another, if an actor wanted to be involved in location decisions wouldn’t the director, dp…, also be there.
@ p, yeah actors, especially film stars, definitely don’t get involved in scouting locations believe me! That’s hilarious if that’s what they said! God people genuinely will believe any crap that comes out of their PR’s mouth won’t they? They must really think the world is fucking stupid!
I don’t know at all about the twins but I would say it is highly possible. I don’t recall seeing many photos of Angelina through different stages of her pregnancy that time, its possible she could have been lying low. There’s only one I can really remember where she had a very loud, flowery dress on which I thought was a very odd choice as I’ve never seen her wear anything like that either before or since. She’s all about the drab colours and ultra plain fabrics. Maybe that was considered the best choice for hiding her fake pregnancy bump. Check it out, it was in Cannes I think, when she was promoting Kung Fu Panda, but who knows really.
What I can tell you is that Angelina is definitely not 33. I would put her at about 38-39, so its possible she may have had problems conceiving. They were definitely IVF babies anyway, so is it that much of a leap to suggest she had a surrogate? I mean they’re rich, they can pay for whatever they like. I know she’s that age as, well for a start she certainly looks it, even with all the botox and fillers she has (and a possible facelift) its clear she’s much older than 33. But I also know that because a friend of mine’s husband had a small but significant role in the film The Matrix 2 (him and his twin were those white, dreadlocked people if you’ve seen it, I haven’t but I’ve seen the pics). At the time he was about 40 but went by the age of 35 in public, she said everyone does it. Once I realised this it became obvious how many people are lying about their age in showbiz, Duffy and Amy Winehouse for two (25 my arse, they’re both 30 at least). Another singer called Anastasia who is actually American but I’m not sure is that big in the states, recently came clean that her actuall age wasn’t 35 at all, she was in fact 40. She said when she signed at her record company when she was 30 the bosses asked if she would say she was 23 so she would appeal more to teen markets. But she kept forgetting how old she was supposed to be and got fed up with it so gave it up. Another obvious one is Fergie, when interviewed she can never remember how old she’s supposed to be either. I would say she’s in her late 30’s but she says she’s 32 or something. Basically all these celebs are products who are being marketed to a young audience, so they want to maximise the length of time they’ll stay young and relevant. I also think Miley Cyrus is older than she says, she talks like she’s at least 19, 20. When I saw her inerviewed she said she was 15, and I thought I highly doubt it. And probably Hayden Panerwhatsherface from Heroes too, looks way older than she says she is.
Reply@Keane:
ReplyWouldn’t Jolie’s birth have been widely reported in the press back in the mid 70s, given that Voight was such a high profile celeb? The IVF pregnancy wouldn’t shock me at all.
Yeah I guess so its highly possible, I’m sure there’s a way to check it out. But even if there was factual evidence to prove she wasn’t actually 33, I’m sure she’d get away with saying she was anyway, people just gobble up what she says. I’ve always said Angelina Jolie acts and her fans think that her shit don’t stink, they’ll believe anything she says even when its an obvious lie.
Reply@Keane:
ReplyI have never thought much about her age , except for one comment she has made. She has talked about when her father left, and how old she was, and what she said about it is contradictory to how old she would be going by 33, and the film she says he was cheating on. That would have made her older by a few years. No, wait, there was another time. After her mother died a man her mom lived with , a letter was released where he talks about Angelina living with them at a certain year and how old she was, and it does not match her age. It was a old letter he had written her mother I believe. Years ago, like 10 years ago, asking about her, how is she, I remember when she was xx years old and we were blah blah..and that age with the date on the letter also did not match up with her being 33 years old now. There is a picture of her at the CCOBB premier, that is up on a plastic surgeons website, where he has it circled showing she has a facelift and the scars behind her ears, very obvious, and he felt , why at 33 years old?
@Keane:
I wonder how far she could go before her die-hard fans finally said “that b**ch is crazy”.
ReplyHonestly there’s not a chance in hell of her being 33, I’m 30 and even with all the work she’s had done she looks a LOT older than me. Basically what happens is they all lie about their aga as HW is so ageist so they need to to extend their careers, but they have to have lots of surgery to try to keep looking the age they say they are! And literally everyone does it, all of them. Whenever you next read about a celeb’s age, take a look at them and think, even with all that botox in their face, do they look that age? They never do, its always roughly 5 years they go by. And that’s why I doubt she’ll have more kids and the surrogacy story could be true cos of her age. I am also pretty sure that Nicole Kidman is older than she says she is too and that her baby was also delivered by a surrogate. Everyone kept saying she hardly looked pregannt and then she was pictured with an enormous bump at some premiere deliberately holding her hands under the nump to accentuate it, and it just looks like a big pillow, and the whole photo is totally suspect. The rumour was that her sister had it for her, I don’t know if that bit’s true, but there always have been stories about her miscarrying and having dificulty conceiving so its possible her sis volunteered.
Replynump = bump obviously, although I like “nump” better!!
Reply@topbrit:
That is a bit a of a stretch for me. Both of the twins have the same duh look that Pitt does, not trying to be mean, they are adorable, just like Shiloh, I just do not know how else to explain it that everyone would understand. Those babies are his. They look just like him.
Someone said that he did not want another child with her after Shiloh was born because he had realized by that time he had made a mistake, she was not just wild and sexy and fun, but batshit crazy and unstable.
I have to ask then, why didn’t he just double bag it then? If they are IVF why did he take a shake, you know, know one put a gun to his head. He knew what he was doing. He knew the legacy he was going to be leaving these kids, the possible life they may have to grow up in. I am really tired of him getting a free pass. He did not have to agee to another child. When she went to get Pax, he knew that was in the works, that was Feb 2007, he knew already what he was into, he should have stopped it right there until they could get on stable ground. He is as much to blame if not more than anyone. He allowed to happened with Pax, and then he stood by swooning like a pround Papa with all the press that came with it as the twins were being ripened for the next biggest second coming. He knew better than that. Both of these two know that the odds of anyone in their industry staying together forever is not good, for them even less.
He knew she was whacked, so maybe he did try and get her help , and she refused. I can buy that. He should have walked then. Now instead of four kids that will have to deal with this heartbreak, there are six.
And Lordy Lordy, if he is more into his image and sticks it out because he is worried how this will shake down and he allows her to add 7 or 8, damn lock his ass up too. They are both crazy. Does anyone see Brad Pitt sitting home taking care of even three kids? Is he going to be a single dad? ha ha ha ha ha ha
Reply@Kate:
I’m willing to bet the kids will end up with his mother, I think she is the only in the immediate family that can provide a loving stable family life for the poor children.
ReplyKate – its highly possible that Shiloh was also an IVF baby, and that there were several spare embryos which Angelina got put into her or her assistant! I’m pretty sure you’d need the permission of the father though so maybe it was a bandaid baby, that turned into bandaid twins. Either way I heard she had issues “bonding” with them and may have been suffering from post-natal depression. Just for laughs, here’s her on the set of her new film: http://www.dlisted.com/node/30953
ReplyIt would be easy enough to verify, discrepancies can often be explained. I think most libraries have copies of old newspapers on micro-film, so it’s likely one exists of her reported date of birth. But 33 is around the time people start to look older. On top of that sudden weight loss, drugs, alcohol, poor diet, smoking all take there toll visibly. I’ve seen 34 yr olds who could easily pass for 40 and some 27 yr olds who have deep wrinkles (people age differently, tho the public doesn’t expect stars to age at all]. But I would certainly believe many HW types go for surgery at the very 1st sign of aging, fueled by intense panic.
Reply@Keane:
no no no, she trapped his ass with Shiloh lol. She first let it slip that she got knocked up, she caught major shit for that. Then later a few months down the line she gave some elaborate PR crap from Trevor that spun it how, we talked about it and I saw how good he was with Mad and I just wanted to try. Now , remember, she got pregnant, in August at best of 2005. Some say July. Shiloh was born in May 2006 on record but many say April 2006. but lets go with her getting pregnant in Aug-Sept , so he dumps Jen Jan 2005. Still lives with her Jan and Feb. In Mar he has more filming to do with Jolie. Jen files for divorce Mar 30 as he and Jolie are doing W spread. 3 weeks later they are spotted in Africa playing mommy and daddy on the beach with Maddox. (she was said to have called the paps) they still do not say they are a couple.
MAMS premiers June 2005. July 2005 they go to Africa to get Zahara. She moves in with him after that in Malibu, still not admitting anything publicly. Corrects that Zahara is just hers even though the people at the adoption agency say they with all intention adopted together. Zahara is sick, needs to be treated, Jolie goes east, Pitt goes west, he is sick. This is prior to her moving in with him in Malibu, she does this right after this, Now here we are in August. So, August comes along and she has had a new baby for less than a month and she is trying to get pregnant???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
BULLSHIT! This is where she decided that Zahara could not truly hold him, she trapped his ass. I remember people all over the place saying he thought she was on the pill. Was he excited later, sure, but was it planned, no fkg way. nimo
I will never believe they sat down and discussed trying to have a bio kid 1-2 months after picking up Zahara.
ReplyThe child was sick
@Kate:
Reply“When she went to get Pax, he knew that was in the works, that was Feb 2007, he knew already what he was into, he should have stopped it right there until they could get on stable ground. He is as much to blame if not more than anyone.” When she went to get Pax, he knew that was in the works, that was Feb 2007, he knew already what he was into, he should have stopped it right there until they could get on stable ground. He is as much to blame if not more than anyone.” I agree with what you’re saying here and assuming these stories speak truth, the only thing I can come up is sometimes when people are in a situation, even a bad one, it takes time for reality to catch up, allowing them to let go of their initial trajectory. I’ve known people who couldn’t let go of bad marriages, and it wasn’t out of love. Humans are complicated.
I’ve been wondering if the stories about “how she needs her space”, “how Brad is drinking too much”, “has been having nights out with the boys”, how “she is exhausted from looking after the 6 kids” etc haven’t been planted by AJ’s camp. I’ve also been wondering if the whole “her smile was only for him” BS wasn’t her doing as well. On one hand, I have been seeing the outlines of a campaign to make Brad look bad and I have frankly been wondering if AJ isn’t going to try and pin the upcoming Brangelina breakup on Jen as well. After all, if your partner won’t break off contact with his “deranged stalker ex-wife”, he can’t be a very stable person, can he?
Replyp – one thing I’m sure of is Angelina is not 33, there is absolutely no way. They honestly all do it, I have it on very good authority. (This friend is friends with Laurence Fishburne, Keanu Reeves, has met Nicole Kidman etc, has been to a lot of parties, premieres, even Fishburne’s wedding, her husband even made the wedding rings in fact, she knows the industry well). There’s no way ultra competitive Angelina would og by her real age when everyone else isn’t. Plus its very obvious that she had a facelift and has huge amounts of botox, there’s no way she would need that much if she were 33, people don’t age that fast no matter what their lifestyle. All my friends of that age or older look a lot younger.
But as for Brad staying in something he knew was a mess, well I guess he realised what the consequences would and will be if they split. I think he thought he would have to give it a go for a good few years otherwise he was going to come out of it with a lot of egg on his face, and Jolie too. And once there are a few kids inovlved people give it a go. Maybe they had the twins to try to make it look even more serious, and now they’re trying to think of a way to spin themselves out of their split without them both looking terrible. We shall see.
ReplyYou know, folks, I’d love to know the reactions of Pitt’s parents and Jolies dad and brother about all this stuff that has been posted. I know both Pitt and Jolie are adults but you’d think a family member would have pulled them aside and asked them what the hell they thought they were doing. They have calmed down the pimping of the kids since they’ve been back to the states. Maybe that was just for Oscar season though.
Reply@cuze:
IDK I remember once he said something like, “my mom knows better than to try and tell me what she thinks” and lets not forget “all my bitches are mad at me” , I suspect he does not want them to know ALL the truth unless they have too. Doug I am guessing kisses the ground he walks on.
Whoever said Jen is getting ready to be his PR screen for this mess, I agree. To say at this late date, that no one was the villian, rufkm? Your husband just told LA Times he hit a brick wall with u, never wanted children with u, and that is pretty forgiving, of course my bet is that is before he had decided to walk.
ReplyShe is going to help him in some way, even if it is just as a friend.
@Keane:
ReplyKeane i have also heard that celebrities subtract 5 yrs from their age as a matter course. My main point was it would be easy to verify this one, no?
OK… so nobody answered my question up top about Jolie visiting Brad at his and Jen’s home. What’s the deal with that… I thought that was kinda odd (if true that is)?
I think Jen will help him out too. He always needs a his women to help him (get him exposure, save his image, etc.). Jen is a good sport…. I wouldn’t do it if I were her. He doesn’t even deserve her forgiveness.
ReplyI have no idea if she did or didn’t visit Brad at his martial home with Jen, but it wouldn’t surprise me if she had. She seems to me to be the sort of person who would relish the “territorial” aspects of something like that. Nothing like boinking your lover in the bed where he sleeps with his wife to mark your territory…
Replyp – yeah, it should be, I assume it would be archived on lexis-nexis somewhere, I don’t have a subscription though (I think you need to have one) as I’ve only ever used it at work. Allthough I’m not sure if it would go back to the 70’s. Might need to look at micro fiche on LA Times or something from that era. Hey what with Kate’s impeccable knowledge of timelines and quotes and a bit of digging into her background, I think we have the makings of a good book here….
Reply@NoName:
Thank you dear, I appreciate that, for the very same secret reason why I am immensely flattered to be mistaken for “Rhea” (no, no, I won’t say more – but believe me, you got it all wrong from the word “go”).
), how bitterly disappointed you would be!
Meanwhile, out of mere curiosity, I found and read a few messages that said “Rhea” posted in another thread, and IUC’s hilarious claim that AJ was posting on his blog under an avatar, and all your paranoid comments, and oh my, I literally fell on my ass laughing!
Of course, there’s no similar “speech pattern” between Rhea’s posts and mine, for a good reason. And I have absolutely no connection to Mrs. Jolie either, although we have a language in common. If you knew who I really am (or rather: who I am not
But don’t worry: if fantasizing about me being AJ or her ex-PA (what’s her name again?) I don’t mind. Whatever hardens your tits, you know. Your little “Psycho Show” is highly entertaining to me. On second thought, if you allow me to, I think I’m going to stay here for a little while.
To be followed
Reply@Keane:
The letter alone from the man her mother lived with, and her too when she was young is enough to challenge her age. It was dated and surfaced after she died. It is on a website that is a memorial to her. Jolie would not allow anyone at the memorial, so he and others held their own,there are notes on there from all the other family members to her mom. It is really sort of sad. I have forgotten his name.Marcy lived with him for a long time. He thought of Jolie like a daughter. He says something like , last time I saw she she was 12, and yet the date of the letter disputes that age. Don’t hold me to that age, I am just using that as an example. Jolie though was born in California and those birth and death records are no longer available on the internet, you can bet she has had them sealed. But, her father took her to award shows from the time she was quite young. There are pictures. Just google.
Must be hard to be working on a new film knowing that your ex SO is plotting to take all the kids. Anyone believe he is that cold hearted?
Reply@Kate:
If he didn’t take all the kids, what do you suppose would happen to them? Would they turn into bitter individuals who don’t speak to their father because of having done something “nasty” to their mother? Would they end up permanently damaged from watching their mother descend into an H induced hell (if rumours are to be believed)? She might love her kids, but out of the two of them, Pitt strikes me as being the more capable parent.
As for her age, if her parents were together from 1971 to 1976 (separated), and her brother was born in ‘73 and is the eldest, she couldn’t be any more than a year or so younger than her stated age as she was born in ‘75.
Reply@Colleen:
Ooops, I meant to say: “If you fancy fantasizing about me…” etc.
Oh là là, faut que j’arrête avant de tourner neuneu, moi!
ReplyDon’t worry Colleen, we’re all falling on our asses laughing at how hilarious you are too my dear!!! Stick around, we’re all finding your antics highly enjoyable. And as for being Angelina/Rhea/her PA/who the fuck ever we don’t really care exactly who but the intent is still the same. I’ve been posting on gossip blogs long enough to know no-one talks like you. First defending the poor old celeb, then saying how fgthfully boring every story is to the point where you hardly know why you keep posting over and over again, then calling everyone mad and then trying to act all mysterious and enigmatic like anyone gives a flying fuck – nope, fail! You need to read your handbook on how to sound like a realistic poster on the interwebs hun. And BTW, the fact that you knew who “Rhea” was, before even reading her posts, made it absolutely sure. No-one posting on gossip blogs never already knows someone in the real world who has already posted and under what name. They’re always annonymous strangers. So keep trying but I’m warning you that whether you’re Ange or a friend/member of staff (I think the latter), you’re doing epicly badly on ths, must do better! At the moment we’re all running rings around you in terms of intellect.
And BTW “Colleen”, having met enough of them, I definitely don’t get a trill that one of them might be posting on the internet. If I’m not excited when I meet them in person, I sure as hell ain’t gonna be when I cross their path on a gossip column. And obviously, the last person I’d ever have “fantasies” about would be Jolie, nightmares yes, fantasies though. Just can’t shake that image of her and that pittbull…
Reply@Colleen:
Reply“Il faut que j’arrete avant que je deviens neuneu” not “tourner”
@Keane:
ReplyWhat happened with the pitbull? I’m a bit behind on the subject, it seems…
@Keane:
Ravie d’être un sujet d’amusement pour toi autant que tu l’es pour moi, ma chérie. Quitte à quitte, en somme.
ReplyKeane, I enjoy your posts, but you might be wrong regarding the identity of Colleen. I highly doubt Ms. Jolie is able to use le subjonctif (6:24).
Reply@Keane:
ReplyI am with you Keane, and lest we not forget that we both had a hard nights sleep after Angelina and her pooch love fest. I hardly would glorify meeting Miss Jolie. Feel sorry for her a little bit, I think I would, yeah, I can say that. I have a grown daughter, I can have compassion. Does she deserve it, not if she is on the board behaving so arrogantly, she should be worried about where the chips are going to fall with those six beautiful children. There are two sides to every story, I will give her that, and I will bet that this time next year she is going to be the one that many will be feeling sorry for, not her baby daddy. It surprises me to see people say that she ruined him, she did this to him, he even walks arrogant, like he controls the world. Yes he may be sinking in something he can not get out of, but oridinary people do it every day, and he has a oridinary family to help him. He reminds me of that man that was married to Andrea Yates.
@Colleen:
Replyoh my Maddox is doing well lol
Wow! Elle écrit en français!
ReplyP@Kate:
Pooch love fest? Tell me that’s not true!!!!!! Ewwww
My impression of Pitt is that he is an easily manipulated, not very bright man who was going through a classic mid-life crisis and dumped his wife for the “dangerous girl” who made him feel young and dashing again. I also think he’s in way over his head with someone like AJ, who strikes me as needing several years of serious couch time (and not with a dog!). In the end though, he’s probably not a strong enough person to stand up to someone like AJ and will just back down or allow himself to be convinced. Right up to when something breaks the spell and he finally decides that he’d be happier alone.
I, for one, will most certainly not feel sorry for AJ once the shit hits the fan. She’s had zero compassion for anyone who stood between her and what she wants, and in the case of JA, has apparently deliberately spent several years making the woman who’s husband she stole look pathetic to cover her own ass. One can only hope that BP might get his just deserts in the form of news coming out that not only has AJ been cheating on him, but has been doing it with a woman. What kind of macho stud is he going to look like then? Not only “not enough man” to keep her satisfied, but not even enough woman, LOLOLOL. Emasculated, right there and then.
Can anyone imagine what it would be like to be the stepmother to AJ and BP’s kids? Having the ex-baby mother’s influence around all the time? She’d probably have your face up on a dartboard and teach the kids to throw knives at it. Not a healthy situation, IMHO
Reply@NoName:
I saw some pictures of Angelina when she was at the Cannes Film Festival last summer before the twins were born. She looked very pregnant. Maybe I’m naive, but I have trouble figuring out why even Angelina would fake a pregnancy, even to the point of wearing padding.
ReplyI have it from a friend of a friend that you are ALL nuts. Face it–you don’t know these people and you never will. SO STOP spinning the fantasies. Tigerlilly is right, there’s no one innocent in the NARCISSISTIC, SELF-CENTERED, EGO-DRIVEN town of H-wood. These three loosers deserve each other. AND, you guys deserve better than to spend so much time talking about them.
ReplyOk, can we get over the lame ass rumor that Angie is posting here and get on to doing what this site is about, gossiping? Oh, and some real ass believable shit, not some pit bullshit…
Reply@Surreal
“I saw some pictures of Angelina when she was at the Cannes Film Festival last summer before the twins were born. She looked very pregnant. Maybe I’m naive, but I have trouble figuring out why even Angelina would fake a pregnancy, even to the point of wearing padding.”
No one in the history of the world has gotte more attention or money for being pregnant then Angelina. Add to her being a total attention wh0re and there’s you answer to why she would fake a pregnancy.
ReplyWhy is it that when someone comes on here and is not in agreement with about 5 other posters, then they are automatically called a Brangiloonies or better yet Angie herself ( so hilarious by the way). The thing is if you put all of the “brangaloonies” comments and all the “insightful, thought provoking, Brad and Angie truth finders” side by side you would see the irony of it all. Who are the loonies on here again?
ReplyAgain, Colleen is NOT Jolie. Jolie is unable to speak or write anything in French.
Reply@Danyelle:
Yep my friend, and that should explain it all (including that titillating “little secret” of mine that has been the subject of such an intense speculation). But my bet is that Keane and Kate are going to jump to their own conclusion about it. Angelina Jolie is half French, isn’t she? She can speak and write in French, so I MUST be her undoubtedly. Am I correct?
ReplyAh, what a wonderful playground the internet is indeed! Je m’éclate ici comme nulle part ailleurs, merci les filles… euh, je veux dire: les folles.
@Colleen:
You would be wrong then. I don’t speak or understand French nor do I care enough to get it translated. I do find it a bit amusing you keep hanging around though. Those countless other boards must be boring you and feel the need for some fresh blood LOL
Suck away my darling!
Reply@Colleen:
Angelina Jolie is NOT half French, her mother was half French Canadian, which is not quite the same thing. And no, she doesn’t speak the language, or at least the tabloids were reporting that the whole family was taking lessons last summer.
Kate: She called you (and the other ladies here) crazy actually…
Reply@Kate:
> Those countless other boards must be boring you and feel the need for some fresh blood LOL
Exactly, ma cocotte. And I take my “trolling” job very seriously, you know, heh heh heh.
Reply@anonymous:
ReplyWell, Angelina is fluent in French (her mother is French Canadian and she had a French tutor) but I tend to think that rules her out as Colleen because that would make it too obvious.
@Canuck:
Obviously you don’t know much about the Quebecians, chéri(e) : they are more French at heart than the French themselves.
And yes, I did call some people here crazy, so what? It’s actually what they are to anyone with a little sense landing on this fascinating gossip planet.
Colleen, , GTE (gentil troll extraterrestre)
Reply@Lindalee:
Ah, someone sensible… at last!
Reply@Canuck:
ReplyHer bios always said she could speak French, then she said that she had private french lessons as a child but never mastered it and wanted to teach to to her children to honor her mother. When she took it up again with Pitt and the children, he always said that she was far ahead of him in mastering the language.
@Canuck:
Parce que c’est toi qui vas m’apprendre à “causer” ma langue maternelle, peut-être? “Tourner neuneu”, comme “tourner chèvre”, c’est de l’argot, ma belle, et même de l’argot du Sud de la France. Prends-toi ça et carre-toi le entre les miches.
@anonymous:
Encore eût-il fallu que je le susse.
Reply@Canuck:
Oh, I forgot. In formal language, it’s : “Il faut que je m’arrête avant de devenir débile”. And the subjunctive of “devenir” is “que je devienne, que tu deviennes, qu’il devienne, que nous devenions, que vous deveniez, qu’ils deviennent”.
Hope it helps. I wish miss Jolie were actually among us, I’m sure she would appreciate a free lesson.
ReplyJe suis fiere d’être québecoise!!
Reply@Danyelle:
Je te salue, ô ma cousine de la “belle province”! Quel drôle de vent t’amène sur cette planète à cancans, si ce n’est pas indiscret?
Coline, aka Colleen.
ReplyColleen,
Yes, please stop, this is a boring as Jolie and Pitt.
Reply@Lindalee: Sorrry, I have to disappoint you. She doesn’t speak French.
Reply@Liin:
Two good reasons for you to STFU and HTR.
ReplySalut Coline, je sais pas trop pourqoui je suis la! Bof, il fait tres froid dehors et je suis en vacances, donc je passe le temps.
Reply@Colleen:
Quebecians? Sorry darling, but if your maternal language was actually French, you certainly wouldn’t be calling them “Quebecians”, as that is non-existant both in French and in English.
Nice use of the Becherelle as well, Mistinguette.
ReplyColleen,
Understood, at least I know when to shut up! LOL
Reply@ Colleen
Replybtw jolies mother maybe french canadian through relations but she was actually brought up in riverdale,illinois,she’s no more french than anyone on here.just more spin and bullshit put out by jolie prolly.
@Colleen:
ReplyI think you meant “tourner nunuche” anyways… as if someone who already is could “turn” that way.
@Canuck:
This is really priceless, sweetie. As I didn’t know how to say “Québécois” in English, I just invented it, and o miracle, you had obviously no problem understanding me. So, what’s the English word for “Québécois”, mistress Canuck?
Oh God, I’m peeing my pants out of laughter. What can I say? Just ask Danyelle, she knows.
And French isn’t my maternal language, eh? How convenient. So maybe I’m Angelina Jolie, after all.
And FYI, it’s Mistinguett’, not Mistinguette.
Reply@Canuck:
Clearly you don’t know what “nunuche” means.
Reply@Colleen:
The word in English is “Quebecois”.
Apparently, you had no trouble understanding Mistinguett(e) either, did you? I just invented it because I didn’t know how to say it in English, you see…
Reply@Colleen:
ReplyI most certainly do.
@Danyelle:
Ben moi aussi, je suis en vacances, mais hélas j’ai chopé une grippe carabinée, aussi je m’amuse comme je peux. Je suis tombée sur cette planète en cherchant de la doc sur Hollywood et ma foi, je trouve les indigènes d’ici encore plus cinglés que sur les autres sites “pipole”, ce qui n’est pas peu dire. Deux ou trois d’entre eux me font littéralement pisser aux culottes de rire. J’espère au moins que tu ne doutes pas que je sois la vraie de vraie Angelina Jolie, hein?
Reply@Canuck:
If so, thank you. “Nunuche” implies naivety and kindness, and I am everything but naive and kind, believe me.
Reply@Canuck:
> The word in English is “Quebecois”.
Oh, really? So, you’re using the French word, it’s too easy.
ReplyI looked it up in my dictionary. Thay say “Quebec”.
Odd.
@ Colleen
ReplyOk we get it you speak french,not impressed but hey put it on your fucking resime and some arsehole might be.Other than that cannot see the point of you being here with the ‘crazy natives’ except maybe to either a)piss everbody off or b)defend ang pitbull jolie,either way you are wasting your time, perhaps you should go to the other websites that you may ’stumble upon’ and use your non-original format there huh?
@topbrit:
Hey, we were all discussing Holly on another board and what happened to her. She was due about the same time and the rumors were that she was the surrogate. Last pics I saw of her were in Paris and her tummy was bigger than Angies was. Also, someone put together a photo layout of how Angies tummy got bigger and smaller as she progressed in her “pregnancy.” It was hilarious.
Reply@ fresca
ReplyBet it was,sorry i missed that!Do you all come to any conclusion or were you just exchanging banter?
@Colleen:
Nunuche implies naive and kind? I don’t think so my dear. Has your boyfriend been telling you that it’s a compliment all this time?
Try here: http://fr.encarta.msn.com/dictionary_2016020373/nunuche.html
“Pejorative, familiar: Characterized by her niaiserie. Synonym: Cucul”
You can get a full list of the definition of niaiserie in English and French here, for anyone who is interested, and none of them are nice:
Replyhttp://www.websters-online-dictionary.org/definition/NIAISERIE
@topbrit:
“Resime”?… Késaco?
a) or b)? Haha! As I am not and will probably never be a Jolie fantard, I’d be tempted to choose a) out of mischievousness. But if you want to know, the truth is that I am really, really having fun here now. Sorry if my fun is not yours, girls.
But… come to think of it… where the heck is my buddy Keane? So talkative yesterday, and so mute today, it’s worrying. Unless Canuck and her are one and the same… Mmmmm.
ReplyNon Coline, je crois pas tu est la vrai Angelina, haha,,, mais c’est trop drole!!!
Reply@fresca:
ReplyI don’t think surrogacy is legal yet in France. If that is indeed the case, it would be a surprising choice of country to give birth in.
As fascinating as all this french reading comprehension is, I’m still slightly bewildered as to why you are still posting on a thread that you already told us about 5 times you find so terrilby, dreadfully boring Mademoiselle Colleen? You see, when I find something so boring, I tend to go elsewhere and do something that I find interesting, I certainly never bother to stay there saying how boring everything is over and over again. Wouldn’t that be rather, uh boring of you? And then there is this friend of yours Rhea, and how you were so “immensely flattered and proud” to be mistaken for her. Kind of implies that you know her doesn’t it? Why would anyone be “immensely flattered and proud” to be mistaken for an annonymous individual posting under the name of “Rhea” on the interwebs? Especially when you already said you hadn’t read any of Rhea’s posts up until now. Something of a mystery isn’t it? But don’t hold back Mlle Colleen we are waiting for your explanation with eager anticipation?
And for anyone who wasn’t around at the time, the reason people thought that AJ was posting on this site was because Ian’s source within her staff told him so. Check back maybe about 4 or 5 AJ posts ago. First the source told Ian AJ was obsessed with the site and was clicking on it many times a day dreading what was going to come out next. Then the source of the stories told Ian she had started posting. It seemed pretty obvious at the time that this poster could be “Rhea” so a few people called her out on it and she mysteriously immediately stopped posting. Then “Colleen” mysteriously took up the mantle of defending the poor defenceless celeb a few posts back when she informed us that all tabs have big budgets for litigation and the poor celeb couldn’t possibly sue every negative story (in response to a post I made about how if these stories aren’t true then AJ will sue, I mean we’re talking about bestiality for God’s sake, it couldn’t get any worse!). Unfortunately for Colleen who seemed to imply she knew all there was to know about tabloid journalism, I too work in the media and know that tabs most certainly do not have big litigation budgets. In fact they can’t print 3/4 of the stories that come to them as if they don’t have cast iron evidence to back it up they will get sued by lots of multi-millionaire celebs and the paper will go bust. So journos always know a lot more about the lascivious lives of celebs than the general public wil ever know. Fact. And then Colleen came on here to tell us over and over again how boring and uninteresing all this was and how nobody should care so my suspicions were kind of confirmed. In all the months I have posted on gossip blogs I have seen many people post a comment in support of the post, and many people posting a comment attacking it. I have never, I repeat, NEVER, seen anyone come on to just say how dreadfully dull and uninteresting it all was, over and over again. If it was so boring for her and she really cared so little, why the hell keep posting it over and over again. So this is why my suspicions were aroused, and if this is the best Team Jolie can do, Lord help her when she tries to get custody of her kids. I can just see her in the courtroom telling the judge how “frightfully dull and uninteresting” her predilection for bestiality is. Ah the unthinking arrogance of the mega famous!
ReplyI’m sure the site owner can look up the IP addresses of those who post comments. It’s easy enough to look up where a given IP address is located. Why not get him to match the suspect posts with AJ’s whereabouts?
Reply@ Canuck – yes exactly, as Ian told us AJ was posting I’m sure he can look up the IP address to see if “Rhea” and “Colleen” are who we think they are. And in the meantime Colleen still hasn’t said one thing to convince me that I am wrong. All she’s done is denied it and tried to say we’re all mad. But I’m not mad, neither’s Kate, neither is Ian and neither is the source in AJ’s staff who is leaking the stories to him. They have to come from somewhere, he’s not making them up out of thin air. And as he’s said already his source is “solid” so I think he’s pretty on the money. Colleen has still failed to answer a single one of my questions or to justify a single thing she’s said. Denials and allegations of madness certainly don’t count! And like I said, if this is the best they can do, you gotta worry about the custody battle….
ReplyA FACELIFT?
Replyyou people are reaching! I cannot believe there are 20 more comments this morning, and you are STILL going ON with this crap! You guys are hilarious. Thanks for the entertainment.
@ OhFuckingPLEASE
ReplyAnd yet you keep returning to this ‘crap’ mmmm…..btw jolie has had extensive work done,trust!
OFP – are you familiar with gossip blogs at all sweetheart??? Why don’t you have a little flick through a few as it seems the answer to that question is a resounding “NO”. Take a little peak at maybe JustJared.com, Dlisted.com, PerezHilton.com for instance. Check out the number of posts under each item. An average number would maybe be 100-200, on a Braneglina post usually more like 300-400 (they incite the greatest differences of opinion, people either love em or hate em). I’ve see threads on Dlisted go up to 600+ comments. That’s the fucking point of a gossip site girlfriend, its its raison d’etre. Again, coming here to tell people how ridiculous it is that they are commenting is like telling a dog how stupid it is to bark. Its what dogs do, this is what blogs do, geddit? I don’t think I can break it down for you in any more simple terms. And BTW most of the 100+ comments were Colleen trying to convince us she was French for some reason, God knows why. You can deduct about 50 comments if you’re not too interested in French comprehension.
Reply@ Keane
ReplyI agree with you, something is not right with this post,after you called her out on who she ‘may’ be she stopped defending jolie and started trying to take the attention away from ian’s comments to yours and others posts, who does that and why?
@Canuck:
Hmm didnt know that. So I guess it was just a coincidence. I just dont put anything past her I guess.
Keane, you got a troll by the tail. I thought all the Brangeloonies had disappeared but I guess not, lucky you!
Yep, Top Brit, just throwing it out there. There does seem to be a lot of people that firmly believe that they are Hollys kids. She was supposedly fired after those faxes got sent to ET, no one saw her for awhile then she showed up by her side in NY. Idk, anything is possible with them.
I want some inside dirt on the weenie that is Pitt. What an arrogant pussy he is.
Reply@Keane
ReplyBravo,very well put.
@ fresca
ReplyMe too pleeeeeeeez!.
@fresca:
ReplyI just assumed that they probably had their kids in France because they have very strict anti-paparazzi laws there and very good health care. I would imagine that having twins is likely considered a high risk type of birth, and it would have been foolish to go somewhere in the boondocks to have them. I also wondered at the time if there wasn’t some issues involving patient confidentiality, especially if there were addiction related substitutes in her system, as has been suggested elsewhere. There was a rash of celebrity patient info being leaked to the tabloids, and/or unauthorized access to the same around that time, wasn’t there?
I saw AJ on tv at the Oscars when I was in high school (17 years old). I remember thinking she was an adorable (hate her now) 13 year old. I’m now 37 going on 38 and she is 33 going on 34. Unfortunately, Keane, she is a kid of hollywood so it’s going to be pretty easy to determine when she was born…I do think they lie in HW about age, but I really do believe she’s only 33.
She’s just led a trashy life…fucking since she was 14, using drugs and partying hard uses you up. Plus, it sounds crazy but the air in the west is super dry…i live in Florida where there is SO much humidity and moisture in the air, I have very few wrinkles. But if I lived in Arizona or California or Nevada where there is NO humidity, I bet I’d have a lot more wrinkles than I do. Just a thought.
No, she is the oldest looking 33 year old I’ve ever seen which makes it even sadder because if she WAS 38, you’d think, “Well, she doesn’t look too bad”.
And I TOTALLY think she would have had a surrogate….something seemed weird about that particular pregnancy and the leak to the press about the birth timeline and Holly’s pregnancy…I don’t know. It was just off, ya know what I mean??
ReplyAh darling Colleen, how sweet it was of you to think of me, I thought you’d forgotten me amongst all these attempts to throw us off the subject of your identity by posting en francais! Malheureusement I am not Canuck as unlike your good self I do not need to use alternate usernames, I tend to stick with the same one across most websites in fact, so sorry to disappoint. And while I may most certainly have been quiet for the past 20 hours or so (I had to attend to the urgent necessities of first sleeping, then life), you can now rest assured I am back to expose your very obvious attempts at defrauding us (how appropriate when you are on Team Jolie). Now perhaps I should be giving you the benefit of the doubt and thinking you too may be asleep or tending to your mistress or whoever, but I am slightly suspicious that you stopped talking the moment someone suggested Ian could verify who you are by checking your IP address. Was it Canada you said you were residing in? Well, we can just ask Ian to confirm that for us can’t we? Sound okey-cokey to you? What’s wrong my dear, cat got your tongue? Don’t abandon us now we’re all so fond of you! Ciao bella xxxx
Reply@Keane:
Reply“I have never, I repeat, NEVER, seen anyone come on to just say how dreadfully dull and uninteresting it all was, over and over again.” I have. They’re called trolls. It’s a drill. ….After the initial “you’re-all-so-boring” condescension,” it’s on to phase two or “enthusiastic” condescension…. “you people are so dense, stupid, idiotic, crazy, delusional –pick your diminishing adjective– I’m actually enjoying this {which in case you didn’t get it, is my excuse for staying on the board with all you dense, stupid, idiotic, crazy, delusional (pick your diminishing adjective– people .} Whether it’s a disheartened-loon, someone in AJ’s camp, AJ herself, or her VeryClose French coach….doesn’t matter. A troll is a troll. Their only purpose is to disrupt the board and-or get attention. Only one thing to do. Ignore them. They’re never worth the bandwidth. BTW Ted Casablanca over at E! pretty much confirms the story, if not the ugly details. Finito.
Can you post the link to the Ted Casablanca article please?
Reply@ CC yeah, with regard to the pregnancy/surrogacy question, if something happened where there was a leak and that the timeline was wrong and their was a denial or something it hints VERY heavily that there was something to be covered up. I am convinced Nicki Kidman’s was a surrogacy after I saw the pic of her very deliberately putting her hands under an enormous pillow-like bump to show the world she was pregnant. Previously the media had been saying that she didn’t look like she was pregnant at all so it was obviously a deliberate “look see how big my bump is I am really pregnant honest!” type of pose. There were rumours her sis was the surrogate and it would make sense as Nicole has been known to have had trouble conceiving and carrying a baby to full term. But I really wouldn’t mind if she had had a surrogate but just wanted to keep it private as she doesn’t whore out her kid for publicity and cash. Jolie on the other hand has used her children as if they are trophies. There really is never any better publicity for a celeb than producing children and Jolie has milked that PR angle dry. If she’d kept on having them I think the public and media would have tired of it after a while, we’ve had the girl, we’ve had the twins, what’s next octuplets? It gets old. But unfortunately for Jolie she has milked most PR angles now: crazy, wild bisexual, knife-loving Goth; member of world’s hottest couple; sincere humanitarian; earth mother both to adopted and bio babies. The only thing she hasn’t quite mastered is celebrated actress, slightly trickier to obtain that one, usually requires a bit of hard work, ideally some training and unfortunately for Jolie, uh, talent obviously. So there aren’t too many easy PR tricks left in her book to play really. And once you’ve maxed out your PR credit card, there really is no where left to go but the courts really. Like OJ, Michael Jackson and Paris Hilton before her, I believe Ms Jolie’s next publicity drive may well be a courtroom drama….
Reply@Keane:
ReplyI keep reading how she has given away the baby photo money to charitable works. I can’t help but think that the money (or at least some of it) for the baby pix probably rightfully belongs to the kids, not Angie. Modeling fees or whatever you want to call it. Any thoughts on how that works in the US?
@Canuck:
ReplyNo specific article. Over quite a few months I’d say, in Q ‘n As, he’s said “I didn’t expect they’d last this long,” and “The kids are the only reason she’s still there (although he didn’t explain the custody context}” and recently about SJP and MB, he said “Brang will be toast a lot sooner.” That’s off the top of my head and paraphrased. The last one should be easy to find, it’s very recent and it’s a blog.
@p:
ReplyThanks. I have actually read all of those, thought I missed a juicy post somewhere there!
No he’s been relatively cagey about the details. But given some new insight here about Brad, I believe it’s quite possible AJ is Fakey. If so it confirms there’s been serious trouble brewing for a very long time. I hope she does move out for so many days a week, to lessen the impact on the kids. He may be stipulating that at this point {if he has any brains.}
Replyp – this is how I first encountered Colleen which, when added to the “this is so boring” comments, aroused my suspicions. Someone was asking where the proof for all these stories was and I said unless the staff member is willing to go on record you won’t get any proof and she probably can’t cos she’s signed a confidentiality agreement. (Interesting how so many celebs use these nowadays, almost like they have plenty to hide…). I said the only way we would know they weren’t true for sure was if Brange sue. No celeb would let a website print stories about them shagging a dog amongst other animals, vegetables and minerals if it wasn’t true, cos apart from saying she abuses the kids, what could be more defamatory? And Colleen quickly jumped to the defence of the poor celeb, suggesting that she knew all about libel laws and tabloids (bit dumb when you’re talking to someone who’s worked with a lot of journos and made a doc with the Managing Editor of The Sun newspaper, but that’s Colleen!). So here it is:
Colleen said on March 1st, 2009 at 6:04 am .
IUC is a shameless boaster. Seriously, do people like Angelina, Brad et al care about the made up rumors that losers like him are peddling around? It comes with the territory, as they say. But it’s not the territory.
Reply .. .Colleen said on March 1st, 2009 at 6:16 am .
@Keane:
Celebs usually don’t sue because in this day and age it’s a complete waste of time and money, to no result. The tabs have a big budget for that, when they get condemed they’ll pay and then keep on making up juicy stories that sell paper. It’s a lost fight.
Reply .. .Keane said on March 1st, 2009 at 1:19 pm .
Colleen – how on earth would you know its made up sweetie, unless you know the couple personally (and intimately)? And you’re totally wrong hun, celebs most certainly do sue when they think they can win (please see Michael Douglas and CZJ, big litigation fans). And newspapers most certainly do not have big litigation budgets, they can’t print 3/4 of the stories they get because they can’t risk being sued by one multi-millionaire celeb after another. They only print what they can be pretty bloody sure is true otherwise the publisher would go bust. And why would you care so much about the delightful Brad and Ange or any celeb who gets to misbehave in private yet comes off looking whiter than white in public? You feel sorry for them? Save your pity for someone else who has real problems. Celebs like Brad and Ange have stupid amounts of money and a very easy life, they’ll never have to worry about losing their home or ending up on the streets, I can think of a about 100 million people I have more sympathy for than frauds like them.
Reply .. .Colleen said on March 2nd, 2009 at 10:40 am .
@Keane:
> Save your pity for someone else who has real problems.
With all due respect, save your hatred for people who are a real nuisance to the world, there’s no lack of them. And if you believe everything is printed in the tabs, well, I think I’ll save my pity for you, ’cause you have real problems indeed.
And BTW Colleen, I most certainly don’t belive everything I read in the tabs because as I’ve said before half of it is bullshit made up by PR firms to market their celebs. But when they do a big kiss and tell or expose with evidence such as Rebecca Loos’ affair with David Beckham and Heather Mills’ past as a high class hooker, then yes I most certainly do. Both stories had proof (both testimonials and text messages) and neither celeb sued. Becks just said its “ludicrous” in fact, which any journo will tell you is what a celeb says when they know its true so they can’t deny it. Its not legally a denial but appears to be one to the general public. And then the poor celeb says they couldn’t possibly have the time/money to sue all the false stories printed about them. But if a story is as defamatory as those 2, yes they most certainly can. And Angelina will most certainly sue Ian too if she wasn’t in to bestialty, but she knows she can’t cos enough people know about it. She’ll just hope that not too many people find out about it. I was actually thinking of dropping The Sun or NOTW an e-mail regarding all this, we shall see…
ReplyThen there’s this:
.Colleen said on March 4th, 2009 at 6:52 am .
@Keane:
Not that I want to burst your bubble, but… Why the heck is it that on one hand you’re so articulate and so critical about the whole PR faking system, and on the other hand so naive and gullible when it comes to the so-called politically incorrect “information” IUC is shoving down your throat day after day? Did it ever occur to you that IUC is fooling you as much, if not more, than those PRs you despise? Celebrity gossip is a huge market on the internet, you know, and naturally every professional gossip site owner would claim he’s the only truth teller. It’s called self-advertising, you’re the target and if you buy it, well… you’re just the fool here.
ReplyJust my two cents. Je me marre.
And she’s only posted on Angelina threads, nowhere else. She either defends them to the hilt or says how boring this all is. Genuine fans tend to just defend. The boring stuff is not an argument a loon would ever use and believe me I’ve tackled hundreds of them on Dlsted and JustJared. They’re utterly predictable. This is not the posting of a loon, especially the dozens of assertions that we’re all crazy then writing in French as a form of distraction and saying there’s no similarity between speech patterns of “Rhea” and her. No reason why, she just say there isn’t. She’s just not smart enough for this game. She thinks we’re stoopid but we most certainly are not. SO on with the show Angie Ho and friends!
Reply@p:
Ian does not believe that Jolie is Fakey. Some news on Brad .
Thanks to our Perezcious readers, we’ve learned that Brad Pitt was just spotted at an office building at 2020 K Street in D.C. on Wednesday afternoon.
It seems he was there to meet with some attorneys.
The handsome daddy was then seen exiting through the back entrance where he was whisked away in a black SUV.
Wonder what type of attorneys he was meeting with and why? There was probably some charity angle involved!
Either way, it seems the kids were with Angelina and the nannies as Brad was without his large clan.
http://perezhilton.com/2009-03-04-mr-pi … washington
http://www.politico.com/blogs/anneschro … r_you.html
Brad Pitt is due on the Hill Thursday. Rumor has it he’ll be meeting with Speaker Pelosi.
She is in Washington filming so I would venture to guess that they are still living together and not apart. The lawyer in DC is not likely to have anything to do with custody because they do not have residence there.
ReplyDoes anyone else understand wth this is about, she is not only giving Brad a free pass but Jolie as well.
Jennifer Aniston graces the cover of April’s Elle UK and during the interview she talked about the — guess, actually. Guess what she talked about. Here’s a hint:
“I don’t owe anybody anything. I don’t owe anybody my side of the story. There are no sides!” she adds. “There is no bad guy and there is no good guy. There are no villains and there is no heroine in this story. It’s just not the case.”
ReplyI think the one about gossip bloggers and IUC is conclusive actually.
Reply@cuze:
Replymaybe that is why he needs the lawyer in Wash DC taxes charities investigations
Kate saw some celeb mag article today that said Jennifer and John met Brad and Ange before the Oscars and made up. Says they went round to their house for dinner or something – hilarious! Especially as we know Jen and John are about as much a couple as Reese and Jakey are. Other mags had Jen on the front and how she was trying for a baby with John, totally made up PR bullshit. It made me so angry looking at it that people are spendign their money to read stories about couples who do not even exist! Its utterly fraudulent.
ReplyI just had a sick thought, what is the best way to stop this story, adopt another kid.
It goes through Washington D.C yikes gosh please don’t bring another kid into this mess
Ian give us a update!!!
Reply@Keane:
I heard about that, and it was suppose to be at the Malibu house he has up for sale that is empty with pics on the internet, lol Look did not do their homework.
Jen hates Angelina, and she made that clear in her December interviews. ah um noo she would not meet with her or talk to her.
Reply@Kate:
Kate, I have the British Elle next to me, so here is the whole answer, not just the Reader’s Digest version:
Q: Do you ever have the desire to set the record straight? To say, this is my side of the story?
A: I have absolutely nothing to gain by that. No matter what I say, things will be taken out of context and misinterpreted, will always be turned around to make it seem as thought I won’t lwt something go, or that I just keep talking about it over and over. It’s too hard on the soul. I don’t owe anybody anything, I don’t owe anybody my side of the story. There are no sides! There is no bad guy and there is no good guy. There are no villains and there is no heroine in this story. It’s just not the case. So there’s nothing to go on trail for, or to stand on a soapbox for. (Even more quietly) I feel like I’m done answering those sorts of questions.
My take on reading that is that she is trying to say that life isn’t a fairy tale. No heros, no villains, no riding off into the sunset.
ReplyI understand but what I’m saying is trolls, especially ones that are rabid advocates for the “injured party” like loons are, say this crap all the time. I’m not saying it isn’t someone from AJ’s camp but rather that it doesn’t matter. No matter who it is, it inevitably goes nowhere, they just continue on the same track. And tabloids do make crap up saying “a source” said this or that. No one can prove they didn’t. There’d be no advantage for pr firms to feed them some of the shit they print. My story above was a case in point where factual details the story was contingent on, were wrong. There’s a reason people roll their eyes when The Enquirer is mentioned. The times they’re actually on to a story, is far out-weighed by the times they’re not. Or they’ll indescretely print a story …say, about an illness that all the papers have but won’t print. Creating the illusion of more inside-track-knowledge than they deserve imo.
ReplyAnd Colleen honey, just cos I never responded to your little information broadcast about gossip blogs I jst want to throw my two cents right back at you. Sweetheart, if I’ve told you once I’ve told you a hundred times I work in the media babe, I know exactly how the game works. Of course Ian isn’t doing this as a public service, he’s doing it, like everyone has to (except the likes of dear, sweet Brad and Ange) because he has bills to pay and mouths to feed. Everyone has to make a living babe, everyone’s got to get paid. And yes of course i realise everything I read on the internet isn’t true. For example I would not believe one word of what comes out of Perez Hilton’s mouth, because he has too many vested interests which compromise the veracity of his stories (his friendship with Paris, his desire to be as famous as her for two). On the other hand I can see that Ted C’s stuff is more trustworthy because he is less of an arse-licker and fame-whore. His posts however, are severely compromised and limited by the e network and their need to stay on good terms with celebs to get them to do interviews and give them exclusives, so he can’t say the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth. Then there is Ian who is more impartial than Perez and less compromnised by his desire for fame, and who is more free to say stuff the celebs won’t like, umlike Ted. As I’ve said a hundred times already, I do not ever believe everything I read 100% until I get to see the proof. And as I keep saying with these stories the only way to get proof is for them to announce their split, and the only way to prove otherwise is if they sue (and they will if its untrue, no-one can get away with accusations of bestiality re: the world’s most famous couple). So that’s my position. Ian for me is the best anti-narrative I’ve read so far to the PR bullshit we’ve been dripfed all these years. All Brange’s indiscretions and misdemeanours have been brushed under the carpet by the tried and tested PR tactic of deflection. And anyone with half a brain knows a woman who was as outrageous as Angelina always was, doesn’t turn into a nun overnight. So in short babe, keep trying with your assumed superior media know how, but I’m afraid you’ve met more than your match in me. My Oxford education and media career beat your protestations every time. Keep trying though, if its nothing else, it sure is entertaining!
Replyp – I don’t dispute that, there are definitely made up or exaggerated stories in the press but nothing like what Ian has printed here. This is something else. And papers do print apologies and retractions if stories are proved to be false, they just don’t get that much attention. But as for the “a source” thing, that 9 times out of 10 is their PR, even sometimes if the story is bad. You know what they say about no publicity being bad publicity. All the stories about a pop star (gay but closetted) called Robbie Williams and his supposed girlfriends are entirely made up by the PR, even though they often say negative things about him. It makes it look more realistic. Then his PR issued this story that he’d gone into rehab the night before the Brit awards (like MTV awards) a few years ago because it was the first time he hadn’t been nominated for anything or had been asked to perform. He hadn’t gone into rehab at all, or if he had I very much doubt it just so happened to be on that day! Even bad stories are good publicity for a celeb whose career is on the skids!
Reply@Canuck:
ReplyThank you for that. If she had stopped at, “I don’t owe anybody my side of the story.” I would agree, but she went out of her way to say no one was at fault, after she has already called out Jolie on falling in love with her husband on set. This to me looks like because she has forgiven Brad she just does not want to say anything negative and the asshole has convinced somehow it happened because she somehow was not all that. She is going to stand by his side in this bullshit. That is how it LOOKS. Now maybe not, but she is definitely saying to all the loons, “Angelina did not do anything wrong, do not blame her, Brad did not do anything wrong, do not blame him, it is just what it is” Now this is after she has already said in the fall,
“I definitely did not know all of that was going on” when she was referring to them falling in love and Jolie talking about how she could not wait to get to the set to see her husband. No villian. Pure bull. Jen should have stood strong, and just said, move on, next question OR well, Angelian has already told you what happened, what else do you want to know, how I felt about the affair? How would you have felt in my place? Think on your feet girl. This is demeaning and puts Brad back in the saddle. I hope there is something going on behind the scenes we do not know that makes this make sense, because otherwise it annoys the heck out of me. It is as much PR bull as Jolie uses. I don’t like it, just be honest. There was a villian Jen, four long years there has been a villian sweetheart!
@Keane:
Replypeople that lie change their stories fairly often, I think you’ve made a good case for yourself Keane against whatserface
@Kate:
Maybe she’s going to side with Brad because this is a perfect chance to stick it to AJ. Sort of a “you took what mattered most to me, and now I’m going to help him take what matters most to you” revenge dish, served well chilled…
Or maybe she is just way too nice.
ReplyYou all keep making allusions to some pretty unsavory facts that have been printed here somewhere, yet I haven’t managed to find them. Can anyone point me in the right direction?
ReplyCanuck – its all Sugar Ray’s posts but look for Kate’s translation beneath, by far the easiest way to understand them!
Jezzy – thanks, I’m pretty sure I’m right, despite Colleen’s best attempts to dissuade me! I’ve battled many a troll/loon on Dlisted (LoveAngelina and Muska) and JustJared (JILL, Cliniqua and every other ho) and believe me they don’t respond like that. What they do is attack you personally, either by trying to discredit your intelligence/character or simply call you a whore, say you’re a “jellis h8r” etc. That’s the absolute standard line, oh that and you probably wear mom jeans and live in a trailer and then tell you to go “scream at the ocean” (what Aniston apparently said she did after the split, all supposed Maniston fans who obviously also couldn’t get a man are advised to do the same!). Its hilarious but Colleen most definitely isn’t one of them. She’s trying to sound intelligent and calm and to gain the upper ground in the argument if you know what I mean. It could have worked if I didn’t know that most of what she’s saying is bullshit. And her allegiances/sympathies are so with those poor hard-done-by celebs that it is obvious she is linked to them. Plus if you get accused of being AJ or her friend on the internet and are not you would tend to say a bit about who you are and why you’re saying what your saying. All she’s saying is your mad, your all crazy, I don’t know what you’re talkng about, francais, francais, francais (quick referral to the French tutor for assistance there!). It couldn’t be more obvious. If I were her i’d try going away and coming back under a different name with a different tack, but it won’t be too hard to figure it out!
ReplyI just wanted to add some balance to the tabloid subject. I agree these stories are so damaging it’s impossible to think the site wouldn’t be shut down were they false, indeed someone very close to the nest HAS to feeding them. I’ll say again, while these stories are salacious, there are children close by. If anyone close-at-hand is reading this and feels this is damaging the children in any way like….they’ve walked in at inopportune times, witnessed violence or one too many violent arguments, are themselves derided, threatened, or at the receiving end of excessively short-tempers, or are not sleeping enough, acting out whatever….don’t hesitate to call child services. It’s anonymous, they won’t know YOU called. They are not there just for poor people. When people go thru splits, it’s often ugly and confusing and they tend to procrastinate, go back-and-forth, avoid and deny, and the kids suffer. These kids have grandparents so they won’t go into “the system” or be split up.
Replyp – I just feel that Brad and Ange are so powerful and have such a powerful family image that services may be disbelieving and easily cowed. Plus I think Brad and Ange could easily talk there way out of it. What evidence could the nanny give them? We’ve had a few cases lately where babies were beaten to death by their parents even though they’d been visited by social services no less than 30 times and the baby had been in and out of hospital. The bruises on the poor baby’s body were covered with food and explained away and unbelievably neither social worker nor doctor followed it up. If this can happen with several low income, non-celebrity parents, you think childn services will go after Brange? Its worth a try but I think they have enough good lawyers to be able to talk their way out of it unfortunately.
ReplyLook, people, and notably the pathetic shocker going by the name of Keane… I admit I was wrong: you’re not crazy as a matter of fact, oh no, you’re BEYOND crazy, so much so that I’m not sure this conversation is funny any more (but then I had no illusions: the best things must come to an end some day
).
Much to my surprise, I find myself the subject of an intense speculation that even reaches the proportions of a weird fixation sometimes. I won’t claim I did nothing for that, it was part of my “trolling” game of course, but since I’m realising that for some very sick individuals here it’s not a game at all, better stop it right now.
Dear Keane, once and for all, just face it: I am NOT Rhea, I am NOT Angelina, I am NOT a member of Angelina’s staff and I am not even a fan of hers. Period. Point, à la ligne, as we French say. Your beloved IUC is at liberty to check my IP anytime, the only great revelation you’ll get from it is that I am just a nobody (so to speak) who masters – approximately – a few foreign languages and takes the “global vilage” of the internet as her favourite playground.
As I’m afraid you’re a bit thick – or, rather, blinded by your own obsessions – let me undisclose the big secret of that “immensely flattered and proud” thing you find so suspicious. It’s just that, English being my second language, I’m always amazed and delighted to be mistaken for a genuine English speaking person, which I naturally assumed “Rhea” was without having read any of her posts. As simple as that, sorry to disappoint.
That’s all I’ve got to say, folks.
ReplyÀ présent tout ce dont j’ai besoin, c’est de cuver l’overdose de dingologie que je viens de m’appuyer chez vous. Bien le bonsoir, les copines!
@Keane:
ReplyYeah that happens everywhere and they are worse case, and tragic scenarios. But not they are not the only scenarios. Complaints alone can be extremely damaging to this couple. particularly if the insider can give details about the substance abuse clinics. They WILL investigate. The mother’s drug-suicide history is certainly a smoking gun and adds weight. And they question you pretty thoroughly. The bad press alone may be enough to smoke the pr-addicted-couple out of their complacency and move the process along. Which is the immediate goal. It’s easier to ignore poor people’s strife. The KEY is always PERSISTENCE. DON’T LET ANYONE TALK YOU OUT OF IT.
Keane it DOESN’T MATTER. It’s always fruitless, they just want attention. Ignore the troll.
ReplyWell, those Sugar Ray posts were rather an education! Seriously disturbing, if even half of that is true that woman needs to be committed.
ReplySave us–
LOS ANGELES (AP) — Mr. Pitt is going Washington.
Nancy Pelosi’s office says Brad Pitt is set to meet with the Speaker of the House on Thursday to discuss the 45-year-old actor’s charity efforts in New Orleans.
Pitt founded “Make It Right” in 2007 to help build environmentally sustainable housing for low-income residents in New Orleans who lost their homes during Hurricane Katrina. He was nominated for a best-actor Oscar for “The Curious Case of Benjamin Button.”
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/art … gD96NH6G00
and the rumors abound that Jolie is meeting someone in Washington as well about her school in Kenya, does she have a school in Kenya? So George Clooney got to meet with Obama so now Brad and Jolie have to get their mug in? Doesn’t sound like they are too worried about the dog and the stripper , does it? LOL
deflection, defletion, defletion
ReplySo I was on CDAN today and he had this link to some special New York Times thing they on some Oscar Nominees http://www.nytimes.com/packages/html/magazine/20090205-great-performers/
Well, Brad Pitt is in this thing. It’s actually pretty cool. The photographer just wanted to take some unpolished pictures of the stars doing everyday things…. well, they get to Mr. Pitt. Of course he has to be an attention whore and decide he wants to ride his motorcycle followed by a caravan. He’s so extra.
Anyway, so yeah.
ReplyThis only underscores Ian’s assertion that when Madonna builds infrastructure, schools and hospitals she does it in ways that doesn’t garner press for herself like Brangelina. Nice try guys, you’re making a case for NOT against allegations of manipulation and opportunism. By-the-by whose looking after the kids while you’re playing footsie in DC? Obviously neither of them, which may be for the best. Keep the pressure on. Don’t let anyone tell you not to report this. It starts with a phone call.
ReplyMadonna was everywhere in the media when she built her fuckin school or whatever the fuck she built. There were pictures of her dancing with natives. She was shooting her mouth off on Larry King, and her adoption was a HUGE media circus. This is bullshit that Madonna is any less of a degenerate than Jolie. Arguably more so! She’s been attention whoring almost as long as Jolie has been alive. This hag showed this whore how it’s done, and Jolie did it even better! These two whores are almost two peas in a pod, only one has OVERATED talent (Jolie), while the other has NO talent!
ReplyI agree, can’t stand her either, had the pleasure of spending a evening in her almighty presence, could not print the words here to describe that night, but she is not evil like Hitler as Jolie, she is just a class A bitch.
Reply@Colleen:
damn are you still here. come back tomorrow for the chat and piss away Ian’s time, he can deal with you. Now run on back to Assets or Panache or where ever you came from. What a waste of space.
Reply@Keane:
ReplyKeane I did not want to interupt you while you were on a roll but did you notice way back in the very beginning she we were both women and you had said nothing up until that point@Keane:
Keane did u notice that while Miss Elle was so busy trying to give the ole razzle dazzle (Richard Gere was far more successful) that she called us both girls back on March 2 at 4:40. LOL now I know my name is a given but I know a few guys with your name as well and since she was new (not a reincarnate of Rhea) I wonder why she u became a chick so easily because writing rarely reflects your gender.:)
@Kate:
He he, another little secret of mine, as it were. And again, the explanation is so simple and obvious that you’re unable to figure it out with your twisted “romantic” minds. It’s like Edgar Allan Poe’s stolen letter, you know, it’s right before your eyes, but it’s invisible to you.
ReplyAnyway, I’m very flattered to be missed and still speculated upon when I’m away. Thank you, Kate, you’re a doll.
@Kate:
And if I were that alleged “technical incident” IUC is trying to sell you, eh?
WARNING (just in case…): I’m pulling your leg.
Reply@Canuck:
Oh, sorry, I missed this little gem.
ReplyI never said “nunuche” was nice, chérie de mon coeur. I just said that it IMPLIED naive and kind, not that it MEANT it.
Now let’s talk about sense of humour, please. There’s a worrying lack of it out here, if you ask me.
@Keane:
Wow, Keane! If Colleen was A.J. she should hire you as her publicist, youre truly gifted!
Reply@Tigerlilly:
ReplyWith all due respect, that’s nonsense. She had been in Rwanda more than 5 times before anybody knew. It was only after she was attacked repeatedly in the media for the adoption that she went on a media offensive to salvage her rep. And of course she did publicity when her documentary came out, as is to be expected. Madonna is indeed probably a bitch (though I knew a former dancer of hers who said she treated her dancers like family and paid their medical bills when some of them got AIDS and was a very genuine person. Sounds like she wasn’t so warm to Guy Ritchie though).
Nice try Colleen, keep it up with the denials and keep it up with the “you all crazzeeee!!!!” allegations and one day someone might believe you! And how convenient that you have adopted p’s suggestion that you are just trolling for kicks – it was good of her to suggest that get out for you wasn’t it? Only people only usually troll when they feel very strongly about something or when they have a vendetta against a particular poster, as I said, I’ve been doing this way too long to believe you’re just here to amuse yourself. And BTW, you still haven’t told us a single personal detail about yourself, which when I or any other poster on the internet has been accused of being someone who they’re not, they would automatically do. All you have said is you are “just a nobody (so to speak) who masters – approximately – a few foreign languages and takes the “global vilage” of the internet as her favourite playground”, ha ha ha!!! No genuine person posting on a gossip blog would describe themselves in that way. They would say I’m a mother of 3 bored at home or I’m a single girl in my 20’s twiddling my thumbs in my temp job, that sort of thing. For someone who claims to idle her time away on so many gossip blogs, your imitation of such a person is remarkably flawed (so maybe you are AJ after all, cos she can’t act for shit either!). And obviously while you would love to believe I’m a “bit thick”, I think I’ve already stated that I’m considerably more intelligent than you I’m afraid sweetheart, unless you’d like to impress me with your academic credentials? And while your amazing revelation that you were simply “immensely flattered and proud” to be mistaken for someone who you assumed was posting in English may convince people who are intellectually on your level, it most certainly doesn’t convince me I’m afraid! 1) It took you far too long to come up with it 2) the fact that English isn’t your first language hardly constitutes a great secret does it? and 3) it doesn’t even make sense as people post on all kinds of languages on this site, we’ve had French and Hebrew so far, so the fact that you claim you simply “assumed” Rhea was posting in English and that was so flattering to you is utter bullshit isn’t it? And in addition, the language you’re using in all your posts betrays the fact that you are lying and hastily trying to cover your tracks over and over again. Use of language like “naturally assumed” and as “simple as that” demonstrates how you’re trying to sound oh so casual and dismissive of any accusations of what your real identity is, but it is very unconvincing sweetheart. It would have been much more convincing if you’d simply said I’m a big fan that’s all. You have to wonder why someone who claims to not even be a fan of Jolie would come here to try to defend her over and over again, and as I said before, not post on any thread about anyone else. Sweetheart I can read you like a book. Give it up Colleen, you really have underestimated the intelligence of the people posting on this site, your pathetic attempts to cover your tracks have proved futile. And BTW babe, the use of the word “sick” to describe my knowledge of your true identity is completely inappropriate. The word “sick” should be applied to someone who fucks animals and behaves inappropriately with children. Just ask Angie.
Replyp said on March 4th, 2009 at 8:43 pm
This only underscores Ian’s assertion that when Madonna builds infrastructure, schools and hospitals she does it in ways that doesn’t garner press for herself like Brangelina. Nice try guys, you’re making a case for NOT against allegations of manipulation and opportunism. By-the-by whose looking after the kids while you’re playing footsie in DC?
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Yea. I just saw those ragamuffins in the street and they almost got hit by a car. Maddox was handing out baloney sandwiches – straight from Ian – and trying to maintain order. Those poor children.
Reply@Liz E.:
ReplyI wonder if it was Maddox that found Mom on the night Bunny was not suppose to stay over, or did she find her with the pale face ,or was it with the family pet? I would bet he has the run of the house and can go where ever he likes and just walk in what rooms he likes, and does. They each caught themselves in interviews where one said the kids knock on the bedroom door and the other said they get mad because they do not. I hope the piss and shit was cleaned up if it was his cough that got so bad he had to go find mommy sleeping naked in the arms of Bunny while Daddy was out drowning in Vodka. What lucky kids. Terror forever in their eyes. Shi and Pax don’t seem to look so bad though, the windows to their little souls still seem to have some light shining though. Guess the nannies had them locked away. just my thoughts of course, I wasn’t there. opinions are always fun.
@Kate:
ReplyNot sure what you were getting at about your reference to Keane and gender. Were you wondering how Colleen figured out that Keane is female? Keane can correct me if I’m wrong, but I assume he’s actually male. In one comment awhile back, he referred to himself as a “girl” the way gay men sometimes do, but I didn’t take from that the idea that Keane is female, unless you know something that I don’t or I am misinterpreting your comment.
@Lindalee:
ReplyKeane has staed several times that she is a lesbian, which, unless I have been misled as to the definition of lesbian, means she is a woman. But who knows what end is up in this crazy mixed up world of ours?!?!?!?!
@Lindalee:
That was my point exactly, Keane has only made any reference “awhile back” so unless Colleen has been hanging around reading here she has no idea one way or another. lol I think she does hang around and is just pretending to be a newcomer to harass Keane. She has made no contribution to the topics at all other than to tell us how bored she is , what is this to our lives, she can speak french, that she admires Rhea……”
Just a fraud to mess with Ians board which is to be expected, I am surprised there are not more of them.
ReplyI guess when Sugar comes back and gives us the low down on Mr. Pitt they will drop by. lol I always wondered if he was part of the lowdown scene in the hills.
@FFS:
yes, but at no time when Colleen was positng, or near that time. my point exactly. That was what I meant.
Colleen is just a fake, probably someone from Assetworld or the Brad and Angelina Mega thread on the Yuka Board, JJ one of those boards that live and breathe all things Angelina. Jolie could not string two sentences together in French . Rhea ha probably was Jolie. Now she has to work, as Perez continues to kiss her ass. That is why I will I do not like his site. He can not see her for what she or Brad, CDAN does the same. They both rag on Aniston and put a halo on these two. They are both prime examples why this still goes on. Too bad someone that was on that set does not share some personal photos and just set the record straight publicly and let he avalanche fall., a few eye witness accounts would help too. Walking in the trailer on them perhaps. While it is old news yes, but since Brad brought it back front in center by saying he never cheated, it is now new news .Oh that dastardly thing.
ReplyCorrectamundo ladies I am a woman and a lesbian to boot! (Not that that really makes much difference to my perspective, I’m as about as heterosexual as a lesbian can get in all other areas than who I like to sleep with!). But yeah Kate you’re absolutely right, another of Colleen’s slip ups, she must have been reading this site for a while. The bit that makes me laugh the most is this classic quote:
“I am just a nobody (so to speak) who masters – approximately – a few foreign languages and takes the “global vilage” of the internet as her favourite playground” – HA HA HA HA HAHAHAHAHA!!!! etc
See, I have never come across one single other person posting on any other gossip blog who woul ever describe themselves as a “nobody”. Everybody thinks they are a “somebody” because everyone is! I swear this line could have come straight from the brain of AJ. I can just imagine her thinking of non-celebrities as “nobodies” to her big somebody, unfortunately for her and her very poor imitation of one of us little people, most normal people do not! And even more hilarious is the part where she says she has merely mastered a few foreign languages and “uses the global village of the internet as her favourite playground”!!! I’ve chatted with a few pretentious idiots on the internet in my time (Muska from Dlistedfor one), but I have never in my life heard anyone describe themselves as that. A more unconvincing portrayal of a genuine person you could not get! This person has no personal characteristics at all, no home, no job, no age, no marital status, no children, no nothing. She is simply a non-entity who has mastered a few languages and uses the internet as her playground!!!! I’m sure she lives off air and floats around in the clouds too, hilarious! She’s not giving any details about herself away because she knows whatever she says she will be challenged on it and she’s not clever enough not to get caught out. Its so bloody obvious its laughable. And her tactic of dropping in the names of authors and such like as if this somehow proves something is hysterical. She obviously can’t think of anything to convince us that we’re all mad or our accusations are ludicrous so she thinks she might just distract us by dropping in the name of an author, hilarious! Keep it up Colleen, you’re fucking hilarious.
And if anyone still isn’t convinced where this is all coming from you just need to remember that the only thing she has ever commented on is Brange, and the only thing she has ever done is to defend them, try to discredit Ian and say how boring and irrelevant all these stories about Angie fucking a dog are and why on earth should anyone care about them? That’s the sum total of her contribution to this site. Its so bloody obvious she my as well have signed each post Team Angelina Jolie! Plus my assessment of Ange is she’s not dumb, but she’s not that educated and so doesn’t understand that there are people out there who are far more astute and educated than her. She thinks she’s so fucking clever when in fact she is only really of average intelligence so she severely underestimates the intellect of people posting here. She thinks by saying how boring everything is and how boring we are, that that would somehow get rid of us. I think Angelina has played the world for fools for a very long time with her ubelievable PR antics and she conseuqently thinks people posting here are just as naive and gullible. But this is the anti-Brangelina site and unfortunately we’re not so susceptible to her fuckery. But I beg with you to keep on trying Ange, you’re giving us all a really great laugh!
ReplyThe following list is a compilation of FACTS. I have deliberately tried not to include wild accusations and gossip (voodoo,holly,etc). I wanted to make a clear cut list of reasons that Brad and Angelina not only annoy me, but I believe the majority of the public as well. Most people do not read this site or pay attention to silly gossip, but I believe most people are aware, at least on some subconscious level, aware of the things on this list. These are the things that keep me up at night ( I know, I need therapy).
Brangelina: A list of grievances
1. W magazine photos: whether deliberate or not, the contents of these photos and the timing was horribly disrespectful and in poor taste
2. Kenya photos: Some have speculated that these photos were either set up by Angelina( my personal belief) or by both Brad and Angelina. Either way, again the contents and timing were in very poor taste.
3. Adoption of Zahara: when did it start? Why so soon? Was Brad involved as Angelina has eluded to several times in interviews? If so, how long had they been planning to adopt together and was it during his marriage? Very suspect.
4. Brad’s adoption of Maddox and Zahara? Did it ever happen? When first mentioned, adoption experts speculated that it would be extremely difficult for Brad to adopt without being married to Angelina. It was said that the process would take at least six months of monitoring by a social worker. After the “adoption” was announced Brad and Angelina began traveling all over the world. First, to France and then eventually to Namibia for Shiloh’s birth. I would assume this six month process would have to take place in LA or at least in one place for that amount of time. Always seemed suspect to me.
5. Shiloh pregnancy: why so soon? Did she trap him? It certainly appears that way to me and to a lot of other people as well. Again, why bring a baby into a relationship that is so new unless the relationship had actually been going on for some time ( which they both deny).
6. Namibia: taking control over an entire country to have a baby? No one in the public thought this was a good idea. I have never talked to anyone who did not think the birth in Namibia was completely insane.
7. Selling of Shiloh photos: Suri manages to stay hidden for months. There claim that the photos had to be sold because of a bounty just did not ring true. Other celebrities manage to keep children hidden.
8. A Mighty Heart: Jen was supposed to star? No one ever asked them!! Why don’t they ever get called on this? AMH was on Jen’s imdb list for ages. Ugh (Personally, I don’t think Jen was right for the part either.)
9. A Mighty Heart: African American part played by a white woman! That wig! Anyone else would have been called a racist.
10. Golden Globes 2007: Angie overshadows Brad’s nom with sour face and poor attitude. Ryan Seacrest dares to question her and is still blackballed to this day. Proof that Angelina, is at the very least, delusional in her quest of power and world domination.
11. Mother’s death: if so upset why wasn’t she there? Why did she go to New Orleans if her mother was on her deathbed. This is proof that either she was lying about her mother dying during Golden Globes (thus not having a good reason for sour face) or she is the most ungrateful selfish woman on the planet.
12. The abduction, umm adoption of Pax (Sang): Brad doesn’t go with her so she can pretend to be a single mother. She deliberately lied to the government and everyone knew it. How did this happen? I really don’t get this one at all.
13. Pax adoption: why so soon (again)? Why would someone adopt a child so close to having one and so close to her mother’s death. How would any psychiatrist,/ social worker allow this to happen?!! And, once again, the selling of photos. Exploiting this child as soon as he was out of the orphanage. Shameful behavior any way you look at it.
14. The constant traveling: cannot be good for kids, no one ever asks them (again)!! Why aren’t they investigated? If Britney can be investigated, so can they!!!!!
15. Zahara’s mother and illegal adoption. No one asked them (again)? They were never asked to answer for this. As far as I know, there was no ivestigation.
16. Angelina’s constant insistence that she is stopping work, no evidence that this will ever happen!! Why doesn’t anyone ever ask her about this? Angelina, you have stated on many occasions that you plan to stop working, yet here you are again promoting another film and taking time away from your children. What do you have to say to people who feel you are not being entirely truthful? There. See how easy that is Anne Curry, Matt Lauer, etc.
17. Twin pregnancy: makes public appearances at Cannes she could have easily gotten out of. Obvious publicity wh**ore. No one asked them about it (again)?
18. Weird rumors and circumstances surrounding twin births: False report to ET!!!! How does that happen? Of all the entertainment shows, they kiss the most celebrity arse. Who lies to them and gets away with it?
19. Selling of twin photos and explanation: if there was such a bounty on twin’s heads, how were they hidden for six months afterwards (or until Star magazine questioned their health)?
20. W magazine photos part II: how can they complain about exposure while participating in it? How is it possible that Oprah doesn’t even ask Brad about this. Brad, some people would look at these photos and say, “why do this, if you don’t want your children exposed to the media? Why participate if you hate the paparazzi so much? Do you really have a right to complain when you are taking and selling the pictures yourself? There. Again not so hard Oprah.
21. Breastfeeding with fake breasts: cannot be done to my knowledge. No way her breasts are real. No way!
22. Angelina’s disrespectful comments about falling in love on movie set, etc. The thing that really bothers me about this is the fact that we know she is not stupid. She doesn’t just do an interview and oops a comment like this just slips out. Everything she says and does is planned and calculated. She meant to say that and she thought she could get away with it.
23. Brad’s overall disrespectful attitude in moving on so quickly and his complete turn around in using personal life for publicity. So obviously influenced by Angelina. I have been following his career for years and he as always been adamant about protecting his private life. All of this has got to be eating away at him. Maybe that is why he looks so bad.
24. Award season 2008/2009: don’t know why this is a grievance technically other than the fact that their overall attitudes just pissed me off.
25. The victimization/disrespect/disregard/ of Jennifer Aniston and the complete lack of class and morality that has to exist within someone who would behave in this manner.
Whew! Rant over. Sorry if this is annoying, blame the combination of Starbucks and cough medicine.
ReplyKate – honestly hun I swear on my life Colleen is not simply a loon, I’ve fucked with them so many times on JustJared and Dlisted and I know exactly what they do. Their first response is that anyone who hates ANgelina is just jealous because she is just so beautiful and wealthy and has Brad etc. Well my argument always is you actually don’t know anything about me so how would you know Angelina could compete with me? They assume everyone who hates her is fat and average and a loser and can’t get a man, whereas I’m not any of those things and I dislike her simply because I’ve never known a woman more in love with her own image and because she’s a devious, manipulativre bitch. So not someone I’d like for a friend and I most certainly wouldn’t want to sleep with her. Loons respond with the “your just jealous” argument every time, they never engage in a discussion about the intricacies of the media machine or just say this is really boring why is anyone even bothering to read all this. If they read the stories on here and were just a loon they would attack Ian and attack anyone who agreed with him. No-one, I repeat none of them, would ever say “how boring this all is, its so irrelevant, why don’t you all go and do something more interesting with your time”. My bet is that Angelina is monitoring this site every day as she’s worried about what has been leaking out and she asked someone to post things for her to try to put us off. I’m sure they have a French tutor they could refer to to get the French quotes or it is highly possible that a member of her staff has either good language skills or is half French for example. Especially as they were living in France for a while, I’m sure they could have acquired staff there. I really do know what I’m talking about with this one. Colleen is on ANgelina’s payroll, she’s not just a loon, loons are a totally different kettle of fish to this little lady!
Reply@ Keane
ReplyI think,no i know you are onto something there Keane,i felt myself that something wasn’t right with ‘Colleen’ but i am not as enlightened as you and couldn’t quite put my finger on it,or put it in writing so eloquentley.Since Ian and SR starting giving us this inside info i bet jolie has been monitoring the internet use,mobile (cell phone) use etc like crazy,in fact bat-shit crazy!It would make sense she and a member of staff sat round a laptop trying to think up ways to stop this shit hitting the fan while maddox was throwing his collection of knives at pax and zahara was kicking 7 shades of crap out of shiloh and the twins were strapped in a chair staring out of the window with that ‘duh’ look on their faces,unfortunately the best they could come up with was ‘Colleen’ a french speaking nobody,void of any character,opinion,point etc because after all they are made up.Jeez seems her role play is as bad as her acting!Anyways the brange are supposedly having dinner together in DC (people mag,payroll mag)dya think they are detracting attention away again,you know like they always do when they know bad press is coming their way!
Just a thought,dya think pussy whipped pitt is actually goint to keep his balls in jolies purse,ignoring all the dog sexy times,possible H intake,cheating child neglect etc and stay with her,i am a bit impatient as there have been no new postings from Ian or Sugar Ray, would he stay put,opinions anyone? would he stay with the most manipulative,calculating,mentally ill whore ever !Dare i say?
Reply@Keane:
The loonies also tend to be rabidly ferocious in their protection of the Holy one’s reputation. That and there is no reasoning with them. Their uncompromising hatred of Ms. Aniston is another sign of a loonie. I seriously thought the commentors on Dlisted were joking about what was being said on JJ board, but I went to take a look for myself…it was pretty awful. There is no reasoning with fanantics like that.
Reply@ topbrit – that’s hilarious and yeah I think they are carrying on with the PR machinations they have deployed to such great effect for a long time. You have to remember that these two aren’t above doing anything to stay on top in the fame game, they’ve used their children for publicity for a very long time so a mere dinner together to suggest they’re still on is chicken feed to them! You also have to remember that Madonna pretended she was still with Guy Ritchie for literally years after they’d separated so it would be no surprise to me at all if Brange tried to keep a show of togetherness for a good couple of years yet. Plus how bad does it look on them when they split after just 5 years (one of which Brad was still married to Jen), with 6 kids to their name including twins who are a mere 6 months old???! They’ll keep up the facade for as long as they can cos the sonner the announcement the worse it will look on them, and that is, as always, by far their biggest concern!
Reply@ Jezzy – absolutely, its obvious to anyone familiar with these sites what loons are like. But this particular loon claims not to even be a fan of Ange, well that immediately disqualifies her! Loons idolise Jolie and would defend her to the death, they’d sooner slit their wrists than write that they don’t even like her. If Colleen were as familiar with the internet as she says she is she would know how to play it more convincingly. Its Jolie and her crew and this is all new territory to her. Why bother checking out these sites when they’re all kissing your arse?
@ topbrit – no the deed is already done, I think the’ve been finito for a while. Brad would not put up with someone cheating on him, they’d be history. He may have seemed pussy-whipped at first, but he’s not now. He’s the one who’s in control now in fact. And she must absolutely hate him for it!
Reply@ Keane
ReplyThanks for insight.I’m afraid i do forget sometimes and think they would act like regular people not another species known as Hollywoods!
@Keane:
no the deed is already done, I think the’ve been finito for a while. Brad would not put up with someone cheating on him, they’d be history. He may have seemed pussy-whipped at first, but he’s not now. He’s the one who’s in control now in fact. And she must absolutely hate him for it!
absolutely-he only wants to control getting the kids and that is it.
French speaking, they have a tutor in the home for all of them,so that may be your Colleen.
Rhea is most likey her boss lol
Angelina has a Blackberry just as Brad and Holly do.
Brad does tend to band together with the victim when being attacked and fight back, but when the kids are being affected that may change. Is he going to put his life on hold 24/7 and babysit. He may not bring out the big guns until she makes it clear she will not give into any demands of custody, but if he has filed any papers as Ian has been told I would think they have passed that point and he is just working through the details with his lawyer. Time will tell. regardless they are not swooning and sweating at night like the loons at JJ believe.
ReplyI read one article (for what that’s worth) that stated that AJ “needed space” because Brad had invited his parents to live with them in Long Island (plus of course, **heavily implied** that she is exhausted from single-handedly looking after the kids, saving the world, making a film and the pressures of supporting her man). At the time I thought to myself “Brad might want to put a private detective on that one, that sounds to me like a good place to go and shoot up and/or use to f*** someone else”. I found it odd that BP may have invited his parents to stay, assuming that’s true, since The Brange seems to have made a point to NOT have any sort of visible outside interference in their private lives and AJ appears to have isolated him from his former friends as much as possible.
So, did he really ask his parents to stay in Long Island with the kids to keep a close eye on what is going on, or didn’t he?
Reply@ Canuck – no I think he has his parents come to stay a lot, to help with the kids when he’s working or whatever. They were staying with them in France after the twins were born. Single-handedly looking after 6 kids, that’s absoluely hilarious!!! I can just imagine Ange getting up at 6am every day and standing in the bathroom to wash 6 kids before even bothering to glance in the mirror, then rushing to the kitchen to make all the kids breakfast, then jumping in the car to ferry the older ones off to school, then back to feed the twins, bloody hilarious! The nannies get them up, wash them, feed them, take them to school, why Ange stays in bed (either alone or with a poo-smeared stripper or a pittbull with busted balls!) to catch up on her beauty sleep. Then its up and on to her 2 hr sesh with her personal trainer, then straight to the salon to get that weave tended to, quick stop at the botox clinic for a touch-up, then off to whatever pre-arranged, million dollar pap shoot she’s got on today. How exhausting!
ReplyOh and I read a similar story in this week’s British Grazia. Ange is looking for a NY appartment as she needs some time by herself as Brad is drinking too much and she doesn’t like his parents being with them all the time. Way to go Team PR Ange!! Good one, poor stressed out, exhausted Ange needs to get a million dllar appartment all to herself so she can have her own space – ha ha ha!!! Not that they’ve got enough space in their many mansions already of course! And the mother of 6 needs to get away from her darling children, oh dear. Cue Brad getting custody of the kids. I would say these are stories leaked by Team PR Ange to pave the way for the eventual split, which could be announced some time this year. This is what that BI meant about celeb 2 bringing something forward which would dominate the headlines for most of 2009. And the one she was jealous of for getting all the press was obviously her nemesis Madge, the divorce, A Rod and Jesus. These 2 whores just can’t bear the other being on top!
Reply@Keane:
I’ve never doubted that they have a handful of nannies, no-one in their right mind has that many children under the age of 7 unless they can help it, or they have lots and lots of help. Of course, you never see those nannies in any photos, because “The Brange” make a big point of looking as if they do it all themselves. Having lived the life of an expat while living in second and third world countries for the many years (alas, not now…) I can tell you from personal experience that no-one is going to NOT HIRE whatever house staff they can easily afford (it’s all a matter of scale, isn’t it) in order to free up time for what their personal priorities are.
What has ticked me off is that they drag them all over the world, never giving them any sense of belonging somewhere. Again, as an expat who has kids and who has discussed this with many older expats who have done this before me, if you move around a lot you really do need to give your children roots somewhere. They need to feel a sense of belonging somewhere. That might be in a small village in Europe where everyone is a cousin and can tell them family stories going back generations whilst sitting on the same stone wall that existed 300 years ago because one of their ancestors built it, or in small town America where Mommy or Daddy isn’t so much a “celebrity” as they are “the son of so-and-so, the town’s lawyer, butcher, doctor or whatever, and I went to school with him, he was such a dork”. Or at the very least, the place that they will associate with their own personal “childhood paradise” because they have built an attachment to it over time. But these kids don’t seem to have spent more than 6 or 8 months in the same place ever. For the really little ones, it’s not yet a problem providing they have some sort of “person” stability, whether it be nanny or parent. But for any of them over maybe 2 or 3, it really becomes an issue. My 7 year old STILL talks about her first nanny, 5 years and 3 moves ago. They don’t forget nearly as easily as we would like to think.
Reply@ Canuck, I’ve heard first of all that they dont have so much as a few nannies as a team of nannies per individual child. Their number of staff must be in the region of dozens when you add in say 2-3 nannies per child, security, housekeepers and cleaners, PAs for both of them, personal chef, drivers, gardeners probably. I bet they have a good 50 staff between them at least. They have 2-3 nannies per child so they have 24hr care for each child I would wager. So that there’s always cover on wknds and holidays. And I heard that Angelina likes to change the nannies regularly so none of the children form an attachment to anyone in the way of a mother figure except her (I don’t know if its true, but I wouldn’t put it past her would you?!). On another site there was a guy posting who said he was their personal chef in NOLA for a little while and he said that Brad and ANge were literally never there, and the kids were raised primarily by nannies – sad! And I know what you mean about having staff in developing countries. When my mum, nan and grandad lived in Sri Lanka in the 50’s they had a cook, cleaner and gardener who lived with them, and they weren’t wealthy at all, but its apparently what everyone did. I think my nan blamed the heat!
Reply@Keane:
I wouldn’t be surprised if they had that many people looking after them. In our last expat posting, we gave jobs to 9 people full time for a family considerably smaller than the JP’s and vastly less rich. I never blamed the heat, but frankly for what it cost to have things done, why would I want to spend hours cleaning the house instead of doing something more fun with my time? I don’t know a single expat in any of the countries that we have lived in who hasn’t availed themselves of the luxury of inexpensive labour to do the things you don’t like to do, or don’t have time for.
I also wouldn’t be surprised if AJ changes nannies often to avoid attachments. I’ve seen that before with people who don’t want to spend much time with their kids, but are jealous that they may become more attached to the nanny than to themselves. That’s stupid, destructive, insecure and most of all selfish. If you don’t want to spend time raising your children, why the h*** bother having them in the first place?
ReplyDoux Jésus, les gonzesses, voilà que le fou-rire me reprend à lire votre délire parano. Que le diable me patafiole si j’avais soupçonné en arrivant ici que de fil en aiguille je deviendrais un tel objet de fantasmes pour votre petit club de ragoteuses!
Mais ma parole, c’est que je suis une célébrité, maintenant! On lance des rumeurs à mon sujet, on spécule, on argumente, on se torture les méninges à percer mes supposés mystères. Excusez-moi, mais la chose est si neuve pour moi que j’en suis tout ébaubie… ravie… étourdie… saoulée… Et tout ça grâce à qui? À une actrice sur qui je n’ai pas la moindre opinion qui se tienne, n’ayant vu aucun de ses films et lu aucune de ses interviews. N’est-ce pas merveilleux?
Bon, sur ce, ne croyez pas que je m’embête dans votre petit monde parallèle, hein, mais j’ai éclusé ma grippe et mes activités ordinaires m’appellent de nouveau. C’est que je ne suis pas une rombière oisive, moi. Désolée de vous priver abruptement de ma précieuse présence juste au moment où vous commenciez à m’aduler – à votre touchante façon. Je reviendrai peut-être un jour… sous un autre masque. Soyez bien folles en attendant.
Coline, aka Colleen
ReplyA quick thought, just in case AJ or BP really do read this…
Children are the only true immortality that really exist. Think about that before you screw up your kids through neglect, because in the long run they and theirs will (or will not) become your eternal legacy. No one else is going to carry you 200 hundred years or a 1000 years into the future. The only thing that will prove you existed 500 years from now are your descendants. No one else will give a shit…
Reply@Colleen:
ReplyLeaving so soon? Don’t let the door…
@Canuck:
Pauvre nunuche.
Reply(Sorry, I couldn’t resist that last temptation).
@Colleen:
Pinzutu…
Sorry, neither could I
Reply@Canuck:
Raté, je suis Corse.
Allez, basta!
Reply@Colleen:
As you well know, there are lots of pinzutu who are Corse.
But as you say, basta, ca suffit
Reply@Rant,
ReplyI can’t stand Angelina Jolie and I think she is a fraud and a manipulative bitch, HOWEVER, as far as this goes
“9. A Mighty Heart: African American part played by a white woman! That wig! Anyone else would have been called a racist.”
Mariane Pearl is not African American. Pearl is the multi-racial daughter of a Dutch-Jewish father and an Afro-Chinese-Cuban mother.
@Rant:
Reply{1. W magazine photos:} Yeah Mind-bogglingly insensitive. {2. Kenya photos:} Clearly pre-arranged for public consumption. {3. Adoption of Zahara:} Also pre-arranged for God knows how long. Not long enough for that level of involvement, considering the fucknuts hadn’t been dating that long. { 5. Shiloh pregnancy: why so soon? Did she trap him? It certainly appears that way to me} Vindictiveness perhaps. IIRC a friend of JA said she’d find it tough if they were to conceive a kid soon. They’re impulsive. Recklessly so. Wouldn’t surprise me if they had a good laugh about it. Plus it’s more action, publicity and things that are novel. They like all three. And nannies.
{7. Selling of Shiloh photos: Suri manages to stay hidden for months.} They’re all seen entirely too much imo. But yeah it’s obvious that when they want them hidden, they stay hidden. Lying shitheels! NYT called them out on that. Brad feebly tried to defend it. He funny. {13. Pax adoption: why so soon (again)? Why } To apologize for having a white baby? And they’re manic douchbags. {16. Angelina’s constant insistence that she is stopping work } And Brad’s, from the beginning…..yap, yap, yap…. Ya’ll knew THAT tweren’t never gonna happen. {22. Angelina’s disrespectful comments about falling in love on movie set, etc.} Well they obviously did fall in love there, that doesn’t mean they acted upon it, although it’s not a stretch. However by all accounts he was honest about his feelings. For some reason Aniston couldn’t or didn’t want to see the ossible (likely] ramifications. I’m more bothered by AJ’s aggrandizing..”I’d be happy to sit down and talk to Jen”…or the like. She’s said other things that make that made me think the girl has left the building. Rant, you forgot stinky-stink-eye’s handling of Anne’s win at the CC Awards. heh
Oh Colleen or Coline now is it? (A name change too into the bargain, nothing like keeping your story straight is there?!) As I keep saying ma cherie, writing in French and repeating the same arguments that we are all mad and living in some strange parallel fantasy world, does not manage to conceal your true identity one iota. I would suggest if you thought a language change may have distanced you somewhat from the suspicion of belonging to Team Ange, an alternative language to French may have been more convincing. As Brange own a 60 million dollar property in France, lived there for some considerable time last year, gave birth to 2 children there and Miss Jolie (or Miss Pretty as I like to call her) repeatedly attempts to talk up her French heritage, Frenchify herself and expresses the desire for her kids to speak the language, I would say its not really the best choice if you want to sound like you have nothing to do with old wannabe Frenchy features. I would have gone for Hindi, or Arabic or maybe even Spanish or Italian perhaps. All far more convincing than French. But oh yes, I forgot, you don’t have a Hindi, Arabic, Italian or Spanish tutor to write that one for you do you? You really must put a bit more effort into this Colleen/Coline (bit late in the day to think of a more French-sounding name though really). Come back next time writing in latin or hebrew, maybe we’ll all believe you then!
Reply@Colleen:
Your posts in French are tedious. Even using an online translator, they seem dull. Why not add some liveliness to your prose?
@Keane:
I enjoy your literate and entertaining posts. Do you work in PR or in HW? Keep up the good work!
I have been enjoying this thread immensely for the last few days, but I guess it’s affecting me somewhat Last night I dreamed Angelina and I became great friends, and we danced in the rain. (I know, dreams are not logical). I was so relieved to find out what a cool person she was. Keep in mind I do not care for this woman at all, and I mention this dream only in the interests of fairness.
Reply@Jezzy:
ReplyThe Brangeloonies are very similar to the Claymates who for years viciously attacked anybody who even suggested that their heartthrob might be gay. The day he finally ended the charade was a thing of beauty as the Claymate boards collectively imploded in their grief. I look forward to visiting the Brangeloonie sites the day that they announce the breakup for a similarly entertaining experience.
@Lindalee:
Oh I know, one of the commentors over at Dlisted mentioned that there are fewer and fewer diehard loons left, and some are picking sides between AJ and BP. It’ll be interesting to watch….from a safe distance and with possibly a hard hat( falling debri and all that).
Reply@ Surreal – thanks so much for the compliment, I am very flattered! (Although admittedly not as “immensely flattered” as dear sweet Colleen/Coline was to be mistaken for the lovely Rhea, ahem!). I do not work in PR or HW but used to work in tv production in London. My work brought me in to contact with a fair few Brit celebs and an ex-boss of mine was best buddies with the British HW A-list (Gwyneth, Madonna, Minnie Driver, all the top fashion designers). It was like working in Absolutely Fabulous at times if you’re familiar with thst sitcom! There was also a talent arm of the company so I know a bit about talent management and agents. I worked as a Researcher in factual programmes and docs so the work was very journalistic and I worked with a lot of former journalists and used journos to get stories and so on. I did quite a lot of work for the BBC if you’re familiar with that broadcaster. I’ve had a break in my career for personal reasons and am now unsure what to do. Production is absolute hell, its a completely unregulated industry and you are expected to practically kill yourself to make each show. Production staff are completely exploited. I’ve considered careers like PR cos they’re a lot easier but I think I would hate telling lies for people for a living! I really like the tv industry, just not the working conditions, so its a tough choice for me to make right now. My literacy skills come from my Oxford English degree – there’s no way you can graduate from there without knowing how to string a few sentences together believe you me! So thanks and I’ll try to keep it up! But where is our Colleen/Coline and her desperate attempts to convince us unthinking masses that she is actually a genuine person, still nowhere to be seen? I’m beginning to miss her!
After a break from my career I am now debating
Reply@Keane:
Perhaps our Colleen is considering her next move? I must say as trolls go, she misses the mark. Trolls are supposed to be crazy and entertaining.
Yes, I am familiar with BBC. I guess you could say I am a student of English life, if you could call it that. I have been fascinated with your country since I was a little girl and the Beatles were so popular, though I suppose I date myself by admitting that I can remember the Beatles. I’ve never been to England, but I hope to make it across the pond someday.
As far as careers go, it’s good that you are able to take a break and think about what you would like to do with your life. I know what you mean about not wanting to tell lies for celebs, but I think it would be great if you could find a field where you could use your gift for writing.
Reply@Keane:
ReplyI’m also familiar with the BBC since moving to the UK. Since we don’t have a TV and have no intention of buying one (we don’t feel like subjecting the kids to 24/7 marketing pressure) I keep getting letters about the license and how “everything is in the database”. It’s quite annoying, really…
You must be about the only person in the UK who doesn’t, no wonder they’re suspicious! The whole concept of the license fee is utterly ridiculous though, £140 a year is a lot of money for people on a low income, but the only exemption is if you’re an OAP. You’re even supposed to get one when you’re in college halls, not that anyone ever bothers, but they send the vans round to try to catch you out. I basically think the whole concept of the license fee is totally outdated. I think people should be able to elect to pay it or not and if they don’t they just don’t get those channels. Its ridiculous that its mandatory. And the whole concept that the BBC has to be accountable to its audience as we all fund it is just bizarre. (I’ve been applying for a BBC job today and their editorial policies amount to a small novel’s worth of codes of practice, ridiculous!). Its all hyper-bureaucratic as well in comparison to working anywhere else, and the smallest thing consequently takes forever to get done. Where you at in the UK BTW?
Reply@ Surreal – ah that’s so nice of you thanks so much! If you can think what that job might be let me know and I’ll look in to it, I could do with the ideas! In my younger, more ambitious days I had every intention of writing novels one day, along with being an MP, but my priorities are more my friends and family now than personal glory. I really like interaction with people and I don’t think I could spend a few years of my life sat alone in a room researching and writing a book, I already did 3 years of that when I was at Oxford! Maybe my feelings will change one day but for the most part I just like to get out and live. Smaller amounts of writing I could handle though. I did look in to being a Script Editor for drama as opposed to factual tv and its still a possibility. Got to start at the bottom again though, and on crap money so that does put me off. Who knows, if you have any ideas let me know. And you must come to visit the UK, and having said that, I must get over to the states someday soon too!
ReplyA few days ago we were discussing who Angelina considered to be her idol. Ian had citedthe lovely Audrey Hepburn. I am sure “in her dreams’ , lol , however, lets be serious and consider something more realistic. Now this is a quote that Jolie made in 2003, after stealing Brad she tried to distance herself from this quote when the press began to make comparions, for obvious reasons.
She wants to adopt more children and says with a laugh that the wild child may become Hollywood’s next Mia Farrow. “Or Josephine Baker. I like that better,” she says, referring to another performer who adopted roomfuls of children from different cultures. USA Today – New mom Angelina Jolie rocks the ‘Cradle of Life’ 01 July 2003, written by Karen Thomas
So who is Angelina tranforming herself to be. Audrey, Mia, or Josephine? Since I think most are fully aware of how far she misses the mark on the first two and we have discussed them already, I will move on to Josephine Baker. One might ask why she would choose her? Well she has been described as ” most sensational woman anyone ever saw” does that sound anything remotely close to what we have heard a zillion times of Jolie. Josephine was a activist, fighting against racism in the Civil Rights Era, but her love of country was France, (sound familiar) why, because she felt outcast in the USA. She felt adored in France. She performed almost nude and was accepted for her liberal lifestyle. Her son, or one of the sons, would later write:
Quote by Jean-Claude Baker, her son and author of Josephine Baker: The Hungry Heart (1993), for which he interviewed over 2000 people (interviewed by Afrobella): “She was today what you would call bisexual, and I will tell you why. Forget that I am her son, I am also an historian. You have to put her back in the context of the time in which she lived. In those days, chorus girls were abused by the white or black producers and by the leading man if he liked girls. But they could not sleep together because there were not enough hotels to accommodate black people. So they would all stay together and the girls would develop lady lovers friendships, do you understand my English? But wait wait — if one of the girls by preference was gay, she would be called a bull dyke by the whole cast. So you see, discrimination is everywhere.” See also Lester Strong, “Josephine Baker’s Hungry Heart”, Gay & Lesbian Review Worldwide, September/October 2006.
She also was married 6 times, but the last 2 were not legal. From the time Angelina was in the drug den she told her friends she wanted to adopted alot of children. We also heard her talk about her pets. We have seen her with pictures of snakes, dogs, horses, and she rambled about her hamster. Josephine also loved her pets:
“Josephine’s immense popularity afforded her a comfortable salary, which she spent mostly on clothes, jewelry and pets. She loved animals, and at one time she owned a leopard (Chiquita), a chimpanzee (Ethel), a pig (Albert), a snake (Kiki), a goat, a parrot, parakeets, fish, three cats and seven dogs. ”
Children were of course a big part of Josephines life, private and professionally-you can make the connection:
It was also during this time that she began adopting children, forming a family she often referred to as “The Rainbow Tribe.” Josephine wanted her to prove that “children of different ethnicities and religions could still be brothers.” She often took the children with her cross-country, and when they were at Les Milandes tours were arranged so visitors could walk the grounds and see how natural and happy the children in “The Rainbow Tribe”
In his biography, Josephine: The Hungry Heart, Jean Claude Baker (her 13th and unofficially adopted son) writes, “The question of whether or not she exploited the children is still being argued among those who knew her. When the youngsters were in doors, they could be observed through a picture window.”
Jari, Josephine’s fourth son, remembers “Maman” pushing the children out a little while paying visitors where at the chateau “so the people could see us.”
Her adopted children:
Josephine Baker-
Personal life similarly suffered, and she went through six marriages, some legal, some not.
She protested in her own way against racism, adopting 12 multi-ethnic orphans, whom she called the “Rainbow Tribe.”[7] They were: Akio (Korean son), Janot (Japanese son), Luis (Colombian son), Jari (Finnish son), Jean-Claude (Canadian son), Moïse (French Jewish son), Brahim (Algerian son), Marianne (French daughter), Koffi (Ivorian son), Mara (Venezuelan son), Noël (French son), and Stellina (Moroccan daughter).[8]
For some time she lived with all of her children and an enormous staff in a castle, Château de Milandes, in Dordogne, France. Baker bore only one child, stillborn in 1941, an incident that precipitated an emergency hysterectomy.
I would like to point out this 60 million dollar chateau is not all that far from where Josephine lived and died, and was by the way given a 21 gun salute at her funeral.
Ahhh, so who does she really want to channel, Mia, Audrey, or Josephine?
LOL she is never going to stay in the USA – and Braddy poo is never going to give up Los Feliz, that is where it started for him, that is where it will end. JMO
ReplyVery astute Kate, you have this Angelina history thing down pat, I think you need to help Ian research his next book! Yeah she definitely bears more similarities to Josephine than Audrey, they’re both major exhibitions. Audrey was far less ego-driven and less of a show-off than Angelina. And obviously she was far more naturally beautiful than Angelina although she was also rumoured to have had a nose job. Angelina’s face seems now like it has been almost entirely constructed from plastic surgery (not dissimilar to pop star Kylie Minogue if you’re familiar with her). They’ve both been described as the most stunning women in the world but my estimation is that Angelina has had at least 2, possibly 3 nose jobs (its been through quite a few incarnations), a chin job, cheekbone implants, a facelift, collagen lip fillers, restylene and botox. She’s also had a boob job and undoubtedly a few tummy tucks and lipo. Kylie Minogue has had all of that minus the chin job I think but add the butt implants. They both look like generic plastic surgery-honed dolls nowadays.
But with regard to Angelina’s influences as such I think she’s far too egocentric to want to imitate anyone, I definitely think she considers herself the original and the best. And this is the problem in her acting attempts, she can never stop being cool, sexy, edgy, punky Angelina for a moment and immerse herself in the character of someone else. To convince as an actor you have to have the ability to deconstruct yourself and lose your personal traits. If you have too much self-love this is simply impossible to do. Madonna is very much the same, well actually ten times worse. But its just impossible for Ange to portray vulnerability or weakness or strong love or pain effectively, she is simply not like that and doesn’t know how any of those things feel. Her acting is a bit of a lost cause but she would benefit from some poper training.
ReplyThat was meant to say “exhibitionists” of course, I didn’t mean to say they’re both hanging in art galleries!
Reply@Keane:
ReplyI’m in London. Do you know that I even get these insidious ads on my computer when I’m online about “HAVE YOU PAID YOUR TV LICENSE”? It’s starting to kind of piss me off really, so big brother-ish. We must have 4 or 500 DVD’s that we watch on the computers, but since we’ve been living for most of the kid’s lives in countries where either the local channels were in a language that you don’t speak or/or not worth watching, or just in places that you decide you would rather have your kids reading a book than watching TV and being brainwashed for whomever’s agenda (depending on country), we really don’t miss it. The neighbors say “good for you” on one hand and then look at you as if you are slightly insane, LOL. Soon though, I’m going to invite them to park a van (if they really exist) in front of the house for a couple of months and then maybe they will stop killing trees for nothing.
Oh just invite them round and demonstrate that you don’t own one. You and Madonna are probably the only people in the UK who don’t, but there’s no shame in that! What part of London are you in BTW?
Reply@Keane:
SW6, “Nappy Valley” according to the locals around here
My husband actually tried to set up an appointment with them to come and look and THEY LAUGHED AT HIM on the phone as if that was the funniest thing they had ever heard. I assume that they just think that anyone saying that is lying through their teeth. Maybe most are. But those internet ads on the broadband annoy the crap out of me, because they have obviously crosschecked the IP to the subscriber address to the TV license database and then subtly harass you with ads that say “Haven’t paid your TV license yet?”. Honestly, even if we did decide to buy one, who says that we would even watch the BBC or any local channels for that matter? Maybe we would just get a satellite dish and watch stuff from back home. I don’t get the assumption that even if you do own a TV, you are automatically watching the BBC and therefore should have to pay. It’s a little like having a septic tank for your house and being forced to pay for the sewage system that you don’t use and don’t want to use, or having your own well that supplies all the water to your house and being forced to pay for public water that you don’t use…
Ok, I realize that probably most people own a TV here. I didn’t realize that Madonna didn’t, although I can understand why, and no doubt with her profession she had even more reason to want to control what her kids were watching. Me, I just don’t want them watching things that turn them into little consumers, junk food addicts, or thinking that sex at 12 is normal and ok. Or any of the horrendous reality shows where people prostitute themselves and their private lives for $$. I suppose that is one of the advantages of living in 2nd or 3rd world countries… no McDonalds, no Pizza Hut, no Toys’R'Us, no reason to spend your time desiring the latest *whatever is trendy*, because you can’t get it there anyways. And very little of the media influence on how people think they should be living. It doesn’t take long to realize that you don’t need any of that anyways. And that’s where my kids are right now, so for obvious reasons, I’m in no hurry for their opinions to change because of peer/media pressure.
ReplyThere a pictures of Mr Brad Pitt with almost as much security as Obama walking into the White House. He looks like a smug little twit. The President of the United States had a private meeting behind closed doors
Replywith this twit. This is laughable. We have Sugar Ray giving us stories of Pitt Bulls, and strippers, and pole dancers and poo and doo , and Brad is meeting with the Pres. Does this strike anyone else just a wee bit
odd? Sugar Ray is MIA, no negative stories on Brad. He iw walking with his head up high. Stories still around that they are living apart, Mickey Brett’s book, does that really exist? Anyone know? Would this man go
play footsie with Obama in the chance that he may be humilated in a few months in a booK? Sounds like Brad Pitt is in control . Another area where Ian is on target, Dawn sees Brad as a weak puss, he was in the beginning, but I see a Hitler in the making. Jolie no longer is holding him by his balls. He has broken free and on a sprint, but to where, and who is backing him?
@Kate:
“Would this man go play footsie with Obama in the chance that he may be humilated in a few months in a booK?”
Yes, I think he would, because it gives him credibility in a lot of ways that simple PR statements can’t.
“Sounds like Brad Pitt is in control.”
That was (in not so many words) one of the reasons that was given for AJ needing “space”, that Brad was starting to reassert himself. About time.
“Another area where Ian is on target, Dawn sees Brad as a weak puss, he was in the beginning, but I see a Hitler in the making. Jolie no longer is holding him by his balls. He has broken free and on a sprint, but to where, and who is backing him?”
I don’t know about a Hitler in the making, but certainly his time with AJ has taught him the art of media manipulation, he and JA didn’t indulge in anything like the media whoredom that Brangelina does. I would think that having seen just what she is capable of as far as press coverage and slanting goes, he might be playing the same game as she since he would be the first to know what she’s likely to try and unleash against him, when the time comes. Of course, I’d say that an Obama trumps a UN, what do you think? Maybe Clooney’s Dad helped with that, who knows. It just looks to me as if they are both jockeying for position, separate ones.
Reply@ Canuck – small world, I’m SW17, just over the river!
And re: Brad, I think this is not so much about damage control as “wanting to be more than what he is”, i.e. trying to gain some sense of purpose or point to his existence, which, let’s face it, has been rather absent in his hitherto shallow film career. Typical midlife crisis.
Reply@Keane:
ReplyDidn’t that fool Brad say something a few years ago about how he wouldn’t get into politics because he’s merely an actor? Back before Bottom Feeder Angie got her claws into him? Did a quick search on it, I know the interview exists, but couldn’t find it. Brad is a tool.
@Keane:
I’m now waving in your general direction, hi almost neighbor! lol
He’s been going on and on for years about wanting to be an architect. I honestly think that the whole Brangelina coupling was due to his mid-life crisis in the first place. If you take out the fact that it’s Brad Pitt and Angelina Jolie, it’s like millions of other couples that go through the same thing at that age, only AJ is a fame vampire who knew how to take it to a whole different level. You are very likely right, but I’m not sure that it’s a coincidence that he’s doing this now, and that it happens to deal with American issues. One of the criticisms that you often see about St. Angelina is that while she does all of these wonderful things, none of them are for her own countrymen.
Reply@Canuck:
Did you notice that as he was struting though the White House to see President Obama in a private closed door meeting that Trevor Nielson was right there by his side every step of the way. Sort of changes things a bit don’t you think? Her toting around “Restore the Balance” while Bradley is toting aroun Trevor.
I am thinking they have reconciled if fir no other reason to shut up this site and are doing it by being a power couple . How long that last? Mickeys book is suppose to be worse for him so his best damage control is to split before that comes out which rumored to be late June if there is even a book .
Daddy toting out his girls. major of control going on for something I just can’t see them sharing Trevor for of and image if they are going into a custody fight.
Reply@Keane:
Brad is always trying to prove he is intelligent that has always been his plight. It upsets him to be called dumb or stupid. In many of his interviews the reporter will comment on this. Angelina made him feel maybe he was capable of being more important than he is and his arrogance now shows.
Hey Keane!
Reply@Kate:
Had to do a web search for Trevor Nielson, at times I’m pretty out of touch on some of this stuff. And “Restore the balance”, you will have to give me some help there, I assumed it was a book, but I can’t find anything but a yoga book, LOL
I hate to appear clueless, but can you explain a bit further please? Thx
Reply@Kate:
ReplyThey’re working for Trevor, not the other way around. They’re just too self-involved to realize it.
@Canuck:
I should have said Restoring the Balance. It was a “gift: from the COFR (which who is now a member of?) lol
to Obama, he carried it around with him during the election towards the end. Jolie had it in her arms facing away from her so everyone could see the title.
Here -
Restoring the Balance is the final product of an eighteen-month Council on Foreign Relations–Saban Center at Brookings project. This effort involved fifteen of the institutions’ senior Middle East experts, who joined together for the first time to conduct in-depth research, travel to the region, and hold interviews with its leaders in order to develop a series of policy recommendations for President-elect Barack Obama. The teams met on three occasions with a board of advisers, a group of former government officials and leaders in the public and private sectors who critiqued drafts of the papers but were not asked to endorse the views presented.
Now google Angelina Jolie along with Council on Foreign Relations, that should open your eyes. Trevor was her boy first, and this is all tied together. He had nothing at all to do with Brad Pitt until about a year ago we started hearing her referred to as Brads wife, and Trevor as Brads political advisor.
Then Trevor advised Jolie to do Wanted ,to go back to the bad girl kick ass image because that is what people wanted to see, his words. He also is the one who think brokered the deal of Salt, not as one movie but as a Trilogy for her. He is using her for $$$$$$$ and if they split it will be interesting which side Trevor falls on.
Jolie is more in align with what he is doing than Pitt is, he is her Puppeteer, but Pitt would use him, the other way around, and it is not likely Pitt would ever allow Trevor to use him as a puppet at this stage in his life. He has 10 years of arrogance and wisdom that she does not have.
Trevor use to work for Bill Clinton, then Bill and Melinda Gates, and is still tied to them in some way quietly I have heard. Yeah, he is the new tricky dick.
See, this is why many do not think it will be so easy for these two to just dissolve away. They are much more trapped together than just by children and a foundation and a few hedonistic secrets.
So if there is a custody battle, Trevor will be in the middle of it.
Reply@Kate:
Well, if Brad is still upset about that at his age, then he really is stupid. Otherwise he would have realized long ago that having people underestimate you can actually be an advantage in the long run. Look at Paris HIlton. She comes across as being a complete airhead, but I’d be surprised if she has an IQ of less than 130. She turned her last name “heiress” status into a huge money making endeavor just by seeming to be a “celebutard”, so she sure as hell can’t be as stupid as everyone seems to think she is. But Brad could start by cutting out the multiple uses of “man” whenever he talks, he’d look a lot less dumb. He certainly doesn’t strike me as being a Mensa member, but at the same time, he’s good friends with people like Clooney, Damon etc, none of whom strike me as idiots. Someone is probably going to reveal something seriously disappointing after that comment, aren’t they? lol
Do you think that Trevor would have to choose sides? Jolie might make him more money (or maybe not if her star isn’t hooked to Pitt’s), but Pitt is probably the one who will still be a superstar 10 years from now. With very very few exceptions (and Jolie isn’t likely to be one), the shelf-life of women in Hollywood seems to be very limited.
And tell me please that AJ the nutcase isn’t actually trying to influence government policy in the Middle East.
I was thinking the other day… AJ has a UN diplomatic passport, she flies her own planes and has visited Afghanistan, the opium capital of the world several times. Is it only me, or does that seem a bit fishy to anyone else?
Reply@ Canuck
I’m waving back at you!
@ Kate
Hey to you too, how are things?
That stuff on Ange and Brad is very interesting indeed. This Trevor guy used to be an advisor to the Clintons (biggest political power couple), then the Gates (biggest business power couple and now philanthropists), and now he’s with Brad and Ange (biggest HW couple and wannabe philanthropists and politicians)? Wow, that certainly sheds a new light on it doesn’t it? Section 9 was entirely correct in his estimation of where Ange (and obviously also now Brad) are headed! Its like they’re going for total world domination: HW, humanitarianism and then politics. Problem is neither of them is intellectually up to it. It will be a compplete travesty if those 2 end up in positions of power in the US. They have neither the intelligence or the education to warrant it, and far too little political experience. Why should people spend years toiling away at places like Harvard, Oxford and Yale, then years as maybe a barrister or businessman, then years working their way up the political ranks, only for 2 HW lightweights to jump in right at the top simply on the basis that they are famous, popular and hot. Where is the experience, where are the qualifications, where are the credentials? What arrogance do these people have that they think they understand the complexities of world and domestic economics and politics, simply on the strength of reading a few books? And if that damn Angelina Jolie thinks she can be instrumental in bringing about peace in the Middle East (if that’s what that book she’s toting around refers to), then I really have heard it all! Not only does she think she should automatically qualify for an oscar win, but she thinks she’s gonna end years of complex political discord too???? This woman’s ego is out of control. But I totally see now the direction this is all going in. If that is the man who is pulling all the strings then I totally think that’s where she is headed. Like Section 9 said, she wants to “save the world”. Well, I’d like to fuckign see her try! Showing up in a country for a day and looking hot and concerned for the benefit of the waiting press is not quite the same thing as running a part of a very large country. If that woman was equal to it I would eat my hat. Please, please tell me the US electorate would see straight through her. But then, those 3 words which always come back to haunt me when I ask this question, float straight in front of my eyes again: Reagan, Dubya and Schwarzenegger. God help us!
Reply@Keane:
ReplyOne does not require political prowess to play the figurehead of a puppeteer.
@Keane:
ReplyThose two will implode in one way or another well before that. AJ has way too much of a past, and I’m guessing that Brad probably does too. Politicians are a different breed from actors, and I suspect would not hesitate for a second to out any and all dirty secrets they can find. They would have a field day with these two.
@Kate: Been away from this thread. Re: “Troy”: It was reported that Braddy used a body double for some of his exposure; mainly the thigh shots. And of course, we later learned that computers were also utilized to showcase the “buff” qualities of male stars.
Read there was a picture of Braddy with GC. Braddy looked adoringly at GC. That disappeared. One should have saved that pic; as it is now a souvenir of when Braddy was being honest regarding his attraction to certain males. Shortly thereafter, he started affecting a more masculine image.
Reply@ Canuck – yes that was my argument, but the person who posts here under the name of Section 9 reckons she would say she’s been open about her past and she’s reformed or whatever. That was of course before all the stories of doggy-fuckign came out, not sure that one could be so easily explained away. But what concerns me is the uber-PR they have behind them and the influence he may wield. He certainly did a great deal for the Clintons and the Gateses, God help us if he does that with Brange.
@ Alif – one word: steroids. They ALL do them.
Reply@Keane:
ReplyFirst off neither have degrees that would qualify them for high office in the US. Schwarzenegger has several degrees, one I believe is a masters in economics. Reagan a BA in economics. And there’s way too much dirt on both of them especially Jolie. I believe Damon and Michael J Fox have also taken their plights to DC. and Celebs attending White House gala events are not that unusual. But it does create buzz if temporarily. Canuck I think you make a good point about Jolie’s star power being linked to Pitt’s [and a frequently overlooked one}. People have short memories. Example. Aniston was the only member of "Friends" who was NOT offered movie roles, until Brad came along. Similarly on her own, Jolie only got acclaim for her early sociopath roles, but apart from her attachment to men -- BBT and now BP, she doesn't garner a lot of public interest (except for being a kook]. Why would she? There are just too many extremely gifted people out there with more flexibility and range. People forget, pre-Brad, she was way behind Theron, Winslet, Blanchett, even Kidman in wattage, and certainly behind Roberts, who is the only one on the list who had true self generated mega-watt star power. — although hardly the best actor of the bunch She had an undeniable screen presence that truly appealed to the masses. So yeah Jolie is definitely tethered to Pitt, [except maybe to rabid fans], and she’s VERY stunt-dependent. For whatever reason the Pitt factor raises public interest in his women immeasurably. Would anyone have guessed JA could have POSSIBLY gotten so much bad press while she was with him? When they married, I clearly remember articles questioning whether her star was on the rise, and his on the wane. and would THAT cause jealousy. heh I knew it was nonsense, total journalistic garbage for people with short term memories. For better or worse Pitt seems to be the key ingredient in the interest, high praise and visibility for whatever woman he’s shagging.
@ p – yeah I totally agree with all that and I think people forget AJ was not at all an A-list star before she hooked up with Pitt. She was B/C list at best. The reason she got catapulted to A-list was partly to do with dating him but also because they looked good together. It was the meeting of the supposed “hottest man” and the supposed “hottest woman” which made evreyone go mental. And her deliberate change of style helped that along a bit too. He was the genuine box-office draw major star and had been for a very long time. She had never hit the big time and was more known for quirky character roles and mindless action films. She could have capitalised on her fame by choosing some good roles which showed her in an alluring capacity in a credible film, but instead she has looked sexy in dumb films and dowdy in serious ones. Major mistake, she needs to sack Trevor in the dept stat. I actually can’t believe they’re still emplying the same strategy when it clearly hasn’t worked and she obviously can take her pick of all the roles I would imagine. And yeah when she announces the split with Brad I think she will struggle to stay popular as I’ve mentioned before. Once she’s single everyone will be reminded of what a homewrecker she is and the myth of them being each other’s love of their lives will be shattered (sex of each other’s life yes, love no!). She won’t be able to perpetuate this earth mother image any more, unless she tries to play the hard-done-by single mom. It’ll be very tricky for her PR team, not sure how they’ll handle it. I certainly think they’ll wait a long old time yet before announcing it, for her sake mainly. Plus once she’s single again she becomes way more threatening to women I think too, she won’t be so popular with the female of the species any more I don’t think. And I didn’t realise Schwarzenegger and Reagan both had degrees, let’s hope that will prevent her making progress politically. There’s no way she’d have the discipline or commitment to complete a challenging degree.
Reply@Keane:
ReplyShe’s tried other roles recently but the thing is the competition acting-wise is too stiff. Apart from the lean-mean-action roles and her early stuff, which she’s getting too old for, she just doesn’t dazzle. She has neither the star power of Roberts, nor the breathtaking artistry of Blanchett, Theron, Winslet, Streep… There’s certainly been major female movie stars like Roberts, but no one since Streep who combines star power and top-tier-talent. It’s become too much a game of stunts, and truly gifted actors are rarely about that. Case in point…most are aware that Tammy Blanchard (whose gorgeous btw] is a very fine actress. But nary a soul talks about her role as Sybil on a made-for-TV movie for CBS, last year — it was shunted to Sat night – a synonym for CBS graveyard –for assy scheduling reasons. The production itself wasn’t nearly as good as the original (available on DVD] but NO ONE could argue with THAT performance. And few could approach it. Certainly not Jolie. But the others on the list probably could – if not equal, at least do something very credible, given the chance. Theron did an HBO film THE LIFE AND DEATH OF PETER SELLERS. I didn’t think the film was great, not by a long shot, but again, no way could Jolie have pulled out that performance. These other actors also have an easy command of their physicality and voice. Jolie has some good moments but not much variation and detail in her performance. And the bar is SO high right now, she’d lost in the dust, without stunts. And she knows it.
@Keane:
@p:
Since women don’t seem to have much of a shelf life after about 40 or so in HW (viewed from here anyways), she’d probably be much better off getting some really good meaty roles lined up pronto and then allowing the split to happen gracefully and then capitalizing on that publicity for a while. If she waits a few years, she’s going to be too old by Hollywood standards and she’ll be just another over the hill actress in Hollywood. She’s already looking seriously worn down and tired now, a few more years isn’t going to help much. Actually, both of them have gone seriously downhill in the looks department over the past couple of years, not sure if that’s unhappiness or an unhealthy lifestyle or both. You only have to look at the photo at the head of this article, they both look 10 years younger. But sadly, as we all know, men get distinguished and women get old and that’s not going to help AJ.
Kidman went into a bunch of great roles right after she divorced and won an Oscar. There may have been the sympathy factor in that, TC came off as a total dickhead in all of that. But I would guess that had they divorced 5 years later, she never would have gotten those sorts of roles. If AJ played her cards right, especially if she lost custody, she could be doing the sort of roles that would get her Oscar after Oscar (despite that she is a mediocre actress) because she is “tapping into her grief” etc etc.
God I feel sorry for those children!
ReplyCome to think of it, why wasn’t Cate Blanchette doing any of the promo tours for Benjamin Button, yet Jolie was at all of them, often hogging all the attention? Oh wait, I may have just answered my own question, could it be that Cate may have been competition for attention on the red carpet?
Reply@Canuck:
ReplyI doubt Blanchett wants to do any more promotion than she has to…she wasn’t nominated and should NEVER have been in anything where she played 2nd to pitt to begin with — ridiculous. Otherwise she and husband Upton are running theatre co. in Oz. Every story is different, yeah Kidman won an oscar after her divorce but JA didn’t. plus Kidman didn’t irresponsibly have an army of kids or fuck canines. plus like I said, I don’t think Jolie dazzles much in most roles.
@p:
As much as I think JA got screwed both in her private life and her media treatment, I haven’t really seen her in much, so I don’t really have much to say about whether she deserved awards or not for anything she’s done. It could be she’s a great actress who only gets offered “Rachel” roles, or it could be that she isn’t up to heavier parts, I really couldn’t say. She seems to do mostly movies that would never be considered for an Oscar, probably because she to be going for the commercial parts in order to establish herself in movies. Too many years in 3rd world countries with no TV or cinemas are to blame for certain gaps in my TV/movie knowledge, there are a lot of series (like Friends and Seinfield) that I’ve never even seen.
The only roles that I’ve seen AJ in are the Lara Croft / Mrs. Smith 2 dimensional type of things. She’s effective (but even then, not great in the acting, but she looks hot with a gun) at them, but will soon be replaced by a younger version of “hot badass chick”. She’s getting too old for it or rather looking too old. I think she knows that, which is why she is trying to broaden her roles into something with more substance, but she just isn’t capable of evoking the sort of emotional depth that those sort of roles demand. And as noted, there are a lot of other actresses who are far more talented and capable of taking those sorts of parts to where they need to go.
Reply@Canuck:
ReplyYeah agreed on all counts.
I will always believe that Jennifer Aniston made Brad Pitt a better man. She has that knack.
He didn’t used to be such a pretentious, media-whore
Replyand That is what he became with MISS Jolie…
@Canuck:
Pay attention next time. The fabulous Cate looked fabulous at the premieres of BB in Los Angeles, in New Orleans and in Sydney. The fabulous Tilda also worked the premieres. Cate, though, was also busy with her theater in Australia. Cate also did a lot of magazines in promotion for BB. Again, looking fabulous. Give credit where credit is due.
ReplyI posted a few times on JustJared, I’m kind of new to the celebrity blogs. Holy crap, don’t go to the Angelina posts there if you can’t stand that beyotch, which is why I left!
ReplyKeane puts things succinctly enough that there’s not much I can add, everything he/she says makes absolute sense to me. And I’m fed up with Angelina taking on the role of humanitarian ambassador. That whore doesn’t represent me! She can’t even take on her own kids, give me a break.
Sandra Bullock said something interesting in an InStyle article I read today: “I admire actresses who are good to women. I don’t like the ones who just don’t like women. You can feel it, and I’m like, ‘You’re degrading yourself.’” Attention Angelina Jolie!
@Liz E.:
Ow, Canuck hastily jerks back her ruler smacked hand! LOL
Come to think of it, I do recall seeing photos of Cate at the LA premier, she had that gold embroidered dress on. I don’t remember seeing photos of Tilda at any, but then again I wasn’t really looking for the whole catalogue of premier photos. The ones that get splashed all over the internet were invariably the Brangelina ones.
I wasn’t implying that the other actors in the film were shirking their duties. I was wondering how come Angelina gets more coverage of their attendances at the various premiers than any of the ladies who were actually in the film, and probably more than even Brad?
Reply@ p – as a total aside, I, very randomly, was going to work on that film The Life and Death of Peter Sellers, it was actually a co-production with a great drama indie in the UK called Company Pictures and BBC Film I believe. But I totally agree with you that it wasn’t well made, the director was far too concerend with doing fancy, artsy cinematic tricks which totally distracted from the plot of the film. Plus it was totally unnecessary cos Peter Sellers’ life was interesting and entertaining enough to not require any dressing up, they should have just told it straght. It was a shame cos it was a first for this indie to be doing a big budget HW film (they usually do very credible tv dramas in the UK), and the Ex Prod I met with there was lovely. I also saw Charlize at some fashion party I went to at the time, and she was definitely a stunner. And yeah, of course the difference between her and Ange is that she has acting talent, but I still think Jolie could have had a more successful film career than she’s had. While Julia Roberts has a much more appealing screen persona than Ange (and it definitely is a persona I believe, I don’t think she’s anything like that in real life, much more like her Notting Hill character in fact – another crap film!), she is not a great actress although she does benefit from having comic timing and some natural charm. I also think Audrey Hepburn was a crap actress, but she picked the right roles and will always be remembered as a screen icon. That’s what I believe Jolie should be doing, picking better roles, not serious ones, not action ones, but ones that just show off her looks and that’s all that’s required. If I was her Manager this is what I’d be telling her. The kick-ass ANgie does not tally at all with her earth mother image, and she just ends up looking like a hyocrite and a fraud (which she is of course, but the point is to not look like one!).
ReplyL@Keane:
Trevor is the one who feels she should go back to femme fatale
It is about the money,in his circle she is already accepted as a heavyweight
That is what many fail to see She is not courting her fans public opinion as
The oscar maybe but that was just on a personal note but not professional that
Is not really their goal . She will not stay part of the Hollywood scene. I believe she joined
The COFN for a reason not for politics in America she could never pull that off as demented as she is
She will live in France and do this trilogy to pay for all the other things she intends to do.
See she spent time with her James on Friday. I would bet she is calling in her Calvary and he and
BBT are the first two lined up.
wow This is a long time for Ian or one of his staff to not post a
New article. Hope he is okay.
hey Keane just stopped to say hello I am out and about
ReplyI hate typing on my Ipod LOL
Hey Kate you may have to repeat that one for me when you’re in next, not quite sure what that was all about! Hope you’re having a good day, catch up with you soon!
Reply@Keane:
ReplyHey there – I agree about “PETER SELLERS”. By the end we had know idea why we needed to know about this, *singularly* self indulgent man. I felt as tho the fan-director was so smitten w the external role playing, he forgot to reveal the underlying need to continuously be someone else– I seriously doubt that was a failure on JR’s part. So we just kept waiting for the other shoe to drop…. and noting how well Rush impersonates Sellers. But the effects were awesome (at first) but not instructive. But I loved the opening credits, right up there with ED WOOD.
@Keane:
Hey Keane, sorry for the confusion. What I meant was that Mr Trevor is responsible for the type of roles she has chosen, at least for “Wanted” and “Salt” . He has said that these are the roles that people want to see her in, (translating to this is what will make money for us) and a;though they are not in line with her Earth Mother image that has been so carefully constructed, that is a moot point now. It has not worked with the public, but it did with the people it needed to, and in that circle, which is where it counted she is accepted. This would be the Colin Powell’s, the COFN, the Clinton Initiative (she co chaired) , Condi Rice, all the reporters at CNN, Generals , and whoever else like to look at her ass she tags along. This is what Dawn meant when she said that Angelina Jolie is evil smart like Hilter. Make no mistake, this girl does her homework. She does not go into these meetings blind, she reads, she reads, she studies, granted just enough to sound the part, but she is well versed enough to carry it off. IF she can not she will deflect the answer to someone who knows. I have listened to her tapes with other statesmen, and yes, that is right, they treat her as one of them. So while we sit here and bang away at loonie Jolie the movies star that wants a Oscar for the Changeling, that is only one very small part of her. Why does she want that Oscar, because he Daddy has one, “out of her mouth” She has major daddy issues.
Trevor made it clear in his bragging rights that it was he who help broker the deal for her that she would get a trilogy written for her from taking on SALT, and that it would end up out doing “The Bourne Trilogy”, which made quite the $$$$. That is what these roles are about. Do you remember this, “Brad is a idiot when it comes to money, we do not put our money together, he should just sit there and look pretty” that came from a reporter that was sitting just feet from her at a hotel in NYC in 2007 when she made that comment. Brad may make more, but he also spends more. He invested in that Dubai real estate and is losing his ass now. His buddy Eric Roth who is Pax’s godfather took a heavy with Madoff. Did Pitt? Maybe, those two are tight. He is trying to sell his Malibu property for well and above what it is worth. That is a red flag, he lost money on AOJJ, he lost money on AMH, he bought a 60 million dollar estate, and they live like there is no tomorrow. His words when he seperated in a on camera interview, was it DS, “What are you going to do now? “Ah, well downsize, live simpler” something along those lines. We see how that worked out. Does anyone think he planned it to go this way. NO. He had no idea what his simple little mind was getting into. He had a simple life, his words again, “good friends, good home, good wife” what was missing for him was the kids, and the intellect of him feeling like he was “somebody intelligent and respected for that” which has always been his personal nemesis. Unfortunately, while Angelina will describe him as a really down to earth man, good father, more man than she has ever know (controls her) what she does not say, she values his opinion, she relies on his brilliance or intelligence. She does not.
This is where it started for her- Beyond Borders, and Clive Owen is who she thought she was getting. LOL
Did you see that movie, she thinks that is who she is, and she thought that is who she would be with in real life, someone like Clive in the movie. Brad Pitt is a far cry from that.
Ian’s last guest, John was on target, Pitt has learned well from the master how to manipulate the press. He just thought he was the zen-master. He had not seen anything yet. He just thought he knew how to control his life. He got rid of his publicist who had been with him for 15 years, was his friend. Why? To hide things that were going on, because she would not go along with certain things, she made some unsettling comments at the end. Pitt became very controlling over this last year, starting about mid 2007. Something happened that made him take his balls back, and decide he was going to take control. What was that? It was being a father. realizing just how bad she was going to f**k these kids if he did not. At the same time he was still hanging in there as the bleeding heart trying to “fix” her. Everyone gets to their breaking point, and it is usually when they are going down the toilet too. lol and he is.
So here we are with Sugar Ray, and Mickey Brett, and Ian all exposing all the nasty dirty laundry of the most celebrated family of America. People’s Sexy Family, how many times have they done a spread on them?
Her pregnancy with Shiloh, the family portrait in the sand dunes with little Zahara in her bandana, so orchestrated. That was a beautiful picture, Pitt and Jolie while it was staged looked happy, and it was just three years ago. Then she had Shiloh, and by some accounts went back to drugs when she visited Marilyn Manson in LA the fall . Enter the Pitt Bull according to SR, 2006. and look at them now…they both look worn out ,and we all know they have at least 3 nannies per child, so it is not the children. It is the mental stress of the mess they are in, and the constant shuffling. It is not easy to live on the run.
Angelina does not want to live in the United States. She does not want to really work her ass off as actress, she just wants to make enough money to roam the world and do her thing, and drag her kids with her. That is all she ever wanted. I bet if she won a Oscar and had endless funds, she would never make another movie. She said she never thought she would end up with a actor, and she was right, she won’t.
Brad Pitt does not really want to travel around like a gypsy with his kids, while it is his nature to want to flee all the time, he has roots and friends in Los Angeles. If he did not want to be seen, he would not flit around on a cycle.
I do at times feel sorry for these two, until I see pictures like the ones of him taking his girls out to a toy store. How many times do these children need to have a field trip to a toy store? He goes to the White House on Thursday and while Angelina spends time with her brother James he takes the girls to a toy store? So many other places Daddy could go. He did not even look comfortable with them, the way he holds them, interacts with them, totally a photo opp. Little Zahara gets pink, little Shiloh gets blue. What a good Daddy I am, I spent 30 min taking my girls out. loll while mommy discussed kicking my ass in this custody battle with her brother Jame.
It is no secret that Brad does not like James. Angelina as we have said , only has BBT , her brother James, and maybe if she is wise her father to help her. Brad has his family, and half of Hollywood. Trevor, that is a toss up.
I do agree, Brad looked like he and gone and picked up the girls for Daddy’s day out and did not know what to do with them. Last, I don’t remember IAN being MIA this long, he normally posts something at least once a day. Hope he is okay, not sick or whatever, and just taking a well deserved rest.
This has been a rocking few weeks!
Peace! Kate
ReplyWhile we are waiting for the next installment, this article kind of reminded me of the discussions going on here
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/sleuth/2009/03/early_oscar_buzzkill_for_jolie.html?hpid=news-col-blog
Replyhttp://www.contactmusic.com/news.nsf/article/jolie%20snubbed%20by%20italian%20premier_1045601
Hollywood actress ANGELINA JOLIE has been snubbed by Italian prime minister ROMANO PRODI, according to reports. The Tomb Raider beauty, who is a goodwill ambassador for the United Nations, was attending a U.N. conference in New York earlier this week (begs01Oct07), where she was planning to quiz the premier about his stance on world poverty. But Prodi, who cancelled the meeting at the last minute, is unimpressed by the attention the 32-year-old star is attracting. He says, “I’ve never seen a politician get into trouble for not meeting an actress.”
04/10/2007 07:22
http://www.filmstarts.de/nachrichten/125607-Angelina-Jolie-Von-Politikern-nicht-ernst-genommen.html
Jolie dismissed by politicians. For good reasons. She is ridiculous.
Reply@anonymous:
Reply[“I’ve never seen a politician get into trouble for not meeting an actress.”] Too funny. Thanks.
@p:
ReplyYes, usually it’s the other way around, lol
Hey Kate, thanks for the explanation – you sure do know a lot about these 2! And as for the bit about the Italian PM refusing to meet her, I’ve actually heard that before, didn’t the Spanish PM say that too? And I’m not surprised they refused to meet her 1) Spain and Italy are still fairly macho male- lead cultures so I doubt they’re gonna be that receptive to speaking to some random woman anyway 2) after decades spent building their political careers to the point where they’ve become in charge of a whole country, why the hell should they answer to some jumped-up, entitled actress? (Especially one who specialises in shoot-em-up action movies; admits to enjoying playing with knives; and thinks she’s sexy and edgy wearing a t-shirt printed with a machine gun on it and a machine gun-shaped gold necklace around her neck…. Yes it is utterly mind-boggling isn’t it why these European PMs refused to meet her! And she’s involved in the Clinton initiative as well is she, interesting, I know someone who works for that out in Hong Kong…. May have to try and do some digging there…!
Reply@Keane:
ReplyOh just google it , her name along with the Clinton Inititive, Jolie was the heavy not Brad as some thought in 2007 when they attended the party. Go back and look when she hooked with Hillary, listen to some of the online tapes, all the informantion is online, this has been going on for quite awhile. It is not new. Start with that, then enter Trevor, you will see the picture. Her being an actress has nothing at all to do with who she is or what she truly wants to do with her life. She just needs it as a means to an end. If she does not have Brad she HAS to do it.
Oh good Lord, its just too much, not only do we have to suffer Angelina lording it over the entertainment industry, now we have to have Angelina lording it not just over American politics, but world politics too? Is there no escape from this bitch? What have we as a world done to deserve this? WIll people need to start evacuating to the moon to just get a bit of space from this woman? I can’t take it! She’s got 6 young children, shouldn’t that be a priority to her? Why have that many kids if you’re intent on world domination? Oh yeah I forgot, they were just to boost her ego and make her look good weren’t they, silly old me! I guess Section 9 was right then, Ange wants to SAVE THE WORLD. And maybe have a threesome with the pittbull and Queen Latifah into the bargain perhaps?! Oh I don’t know, I just want her to go away and stay out of the spotlight and take care of her kids for a while, I’m sick of the sight of her. But the oscar thing, if she didn’t give a fuck about it, why the cuntface? And I haven’t seen the film with her and Clive Owen, but I assume she plays some sort of selfess humanitarian? Except the real Ange ain’t quite so selfless is she? Bit too fond of 60 million dollar mansions and private jets to be convincing in that role. But hey, as I’ve always said, she gets to have the best of both worlds hey? But also do you honestly think she’s popular enough to pull any of this off? Don’t you think people are gonna get a bit sick of her and her presumptiousness? I.e. that she should play a central role in world politics on the basis of showing up in a few war-torn countries for the day, and having read a couple of books? I really think the press will turn on her if she goes into this, its one thing an actress acting like she’s Queen of Hollywood, quite another thinking she’s Queen of the World. I think she’ll piss off quite a few serious-minded, hard-working politicians, UN workers and political journos, don’t you?
Reply@Keane:
Yes, of course she wants a Oscar, because her father has one. That is why. She has always been the Hollywood outcast, that would align her in her mind. Just a game, just a sense of acceptance from her peers. It is not about being good at the craft imo.
For the rest, no, she does not want to be a politician , I don’t think so, she wants to be involved with it , with people that are, with someone who is, a huminatarian, a politician, a doctor, someone of importance who is respected because that gives her respect. Brad does not. Angelina began reading about the plights of refugees when she was with BBT and with a open heart, a sincere heart. I do believe she does have a place there in her heart for all of this, but she made the mistake of getting with pretty boy, and his fame got in the way of what she wanted to do. She can not just go and do and be anymore, and then she bought into him, and he bought into her. They are their own worst nightmares. She says they have so much in common, they don’t. She is bored, restless, and he is the one who is the responsible one. He wants power control now because he sees he can get it. All of us could fall prey to that. Hopefully he sees how this is destroying him and his family and will take a step back. They kept talking about going away and raising the kids, but they just kept dragging them around and signing on to more. To make it worse, how do you repair a relationship if all that SR has reported is true? They either split and try to make decent life and be happy, which is his ideal(life is short and all that jazz) or they stay together and be miserable and have a open relationship so they can co-parent the kids. Brad is too selfish to stay forever.
Reply@Kate:
“Yes, of course she wants a Oscar, because her father has one. That is why. She has always been the Hollywood outcast, that would align her in her mind. Just a game, just a sense of acceptance from her peers. It is not about being good at the craft imo.”
I suppose that would be ONE MORE Oscar than he has, just to show him. I thought of that when she was making that face at Hathaway.
Reply“Oh good Lord, its just too much, not only do we have to suffer Angelina lording it over the entertainment industry, now we have to have Angelina lording it not just over American politics, but world politics too? Is there no escape from this bitch? What have we as a world done to deserve this?”
Good post, Keane! Do the UN or the CFR already know about her special compassions?
This guy is her ‘political advisor’, a member of the CFR. He must have a perfect network to suppress negative press about sleeky Jolie.
http://www.zimbio.com/Trevor+Neilson/pictures/pro
http://www.apcoworldwide.com/internationaladvisorycouncil/images/IAC%20Headshots/Trevor_Neilson.jpg
http://www.labnow.com/images/news/Trevor%20Neilson.jpg
Can Jolie find a role for our Mr Miliband in her new political drama?
By KATIE NICHOLL
Last updated at 01:09 10 Februar 2008
They are Hollywood’s most high-profile UN campaigners. Now Angelina Jolie and Brad Pitt are to produce a political drama about their charity work.
Jolie, 32, and partner Pitt, 44, who are expecting twins, have hired Trevor Neilson, a former aide to Bill Clinton, as their “political and philanthropic adviser”.
So much more… Pretty faced Jolie is set to produce a political drama about her charity work
He is working closely on their new film project for US TV station HBO.
ays a source: “Angelina is taking her role as a UN ambassador very seriously. She has hired Trevor Neilson to help make her a more serious contender in the political arena.”
I wonder whether Foreign Secretary David Miliband, due to meet Jolie this week in Afghanistan, will land a starring role?
Reply@Keane:
speaking of openers…Heeeeeeeres, Johnny….. seen this one?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jzj2Otlc2vw
Ma-boy John. Now THERE’S an actor eh? I figured since the site was on a break, we might as well have some fun of another variety.
ReplyTed Casablance had something interesting to say that fits right into what has been said here about Brad:
http://www.eonline.com/uberblog/the_awful_truth/b103501_bitch-back_reese_robert_clam_up.html
ReplyI just checked that out Canuck, its surprisingly explicit for Ted hey? He is usually much more circumspect about the things he says about people by name, but I guess he could always use the defence he was joking or he just meant “in to the arms of his very good friend, George” I guess! Ted usually says things in a much more coded way, but once you’ve read him a bit you can pretty much interpret what he means. In answer to a couple of questions re: how genuine/serious Jen Aniston’s relationship with John Mayer and Leonardo DiCaprio’s relationship with Bar Rafaeli were for example, he gave exactly the same slightly cryptic answer that Jen and Leo both had exactly what they wanted for now, which I’m assuming he means a showmance and a beard. But that bits quite blatant about Braddy boy, I wonder if he will get a beard to cover up his changing sexual preference in the future? Perhaps Jen Aniston might be available! Good lord, can you imagine what a tangled fauxmance web that would be!
Reply@Keane:
Even if Brad is bi/experimental….whatever…it doesn’t mean he’s completely off women. Clooney WAS his close pal pre-AJ, so whatever the sexual ramifications, I wouldn’t be at all surprised if he’d opt for hanging with Clooney, even if it’s to hook-up with hot chicks, than run to Jen, for romantic purposes anyway. Actually I wouldn’t be surprised if he cozied up to a cute nanny either heh.
And btw is there any verification via real interviews with the woman that AJ was a smack addict. I couldn’t find any and I noticed another reporter said the same thing.
Reply@Keane:
I may be completely off on this, but here goes. This is what I believe may have happened. Last we talked to SR was when SR commented to me that he was going to do a in depth on Brad and who Sugar Pop was, that one night stand, and his name was Slim. That was on the thread about the gift that keeps giving. Then we don’t see Ian after the MJ thread, threats from Angelina to SR, Ian says she was posting on his site, reading, and after his last chat, there were some things said more about Brad than her really. At the end of the chat Ian said things were heating up, east and west. When Ted is pissed off he does not hold back,he is blatant the first go round, even it it is misleading. It was only two weeks ago he said he thought Brad would eventually go back to Jen, but I suspect he would take great offense to Brad Pitt or Jolie trying to slap TRO on IH, his long time friend, and because of the precedent. It has been done in the past but to no real avail, because all it does is buy that star time to prove none of it is true.
Meantime Ted steps up with “running into George’s arms” lol pretty funny. There have been rumors for years that they may been lovers, but that is all it is , rumors. Everyone believes George is at least bi, and now it seems that also Brad Pitt is bi. Is Ted saying Brad is going to come out as a gay man to support Prop 8, no , no imo. He replied in a very snarky way. He is annoyed. Mama’s boy would never do that, would he? Besides, he is not gay, he is so pussy whipped at times it is ridiculous. Has he chosen a side, I suppose someone could make a case, but I don’t think that is what this is about. More of a tag team, show of support. Just a guess, and I might be completely off target. It just would not surprise me one bit for Brad Pitt to march into a lawyers office last Thursday and say , “I want to take out a TRO on this person to shut the f**K up until I can do something about it” ….Problem is those are temporary, and unless he can prove he was not with Slim and none of what was said by SR is non true, it goes away. LOL and in the mean time Ted and all the other bloggers get pissed off just like the journalist did when Angelina asked them to sign a confidenality contract at a PC and they all said , NO THANKS and turned and walked away, and she oh so sly pinned that on her attorney. It took her at least a year to overcome that one, and they Fakey was born. What do think, possible?
Reply@Kate:
Thinking about this again, and while that scenario is possible, since Sugar Ray is back and taking suck a bold move, I am thinking that it i snot probable.
I do remember that there was a part Brad wanted to play in The Sound of Music, and he wanted Angelina to play a role so he could keep the family together. George also wanted to play the main role, they got into argument, Kiera was cast, and George and Brad have not really been boys night out since, or so it seems. He has lost his wittle friend over his bitch mama. Now that his Eight is Enough!! I can see that he may want to be a bachelor for a wittle while and play Rusty again with Georgie and Matt. Funny how George was in Washington so Brad had to go. Competitive much. Could be I guess. This sits with me better than Ted outing him as gay. Just do not see that myself, but we will see. Breakup with ole lady, wants to be part of the Rat Pack again, not a movie, just hanging and doing their silly like punked incidents they had so much fun with. Now where is that Blockbuster Ian is working on?
ReplyOk I admit I’m a bit confused by what you said there! I’m off to make dinner then back to try to make head or tail of it!
Reply@Kate:
ReplyThat might have been My Fair Lady. The Sound of Music was a joke that someone made about them at one of the awards shows this year
I’m trying to imagine AJ as Eliza Doolittle, and just can’t do it. She’d probably whip out a gun and shoot the Professor for being pushy.
Reply@ Canuck – yes that would be hilarious wouldn’t it, but even funnier, Ange as Maria!!! Yeah, can’t see that one. And it wouldn’t surprise me if she wanted to play Eliza, that was an Audrey role after all. But yeah can you imagine Ange in it? Trying to master not only a posh British accent (please see her accent in Tomb Raider, I’m convinced she modelled it on Liz Hurley’s fake posh accent, just as laughable), but a cockney accent too? She’d have been Dick Van Dykeing all over the place! And as for her comparing to Audrey in the looks dept, well, all I can see now when I look at Ange are the terrible cheek implants, she just looks like a porn doll to me. And can you imagine the acting, it’d be all about her favourite one-eyebrow raised facial expression, which she has employed to devastating effect in every film from Gia to Mr and Mrs Smith, to signal any given emotion. Now that would be hysterical, I wish she’d done it! Keira Knightley is a much better choice, admittedly still a shit actress, but at least she looks the part (provided she doesn’t smile and show those velociraptor teefs too often!). Ah I’m mean, they’re both better looking than me, I gotta leave these bitches alone!
Reply@Keane:
Has she really had cheek implants?
No, I can’t see her as Maria either. Maybe a remake of Rocky Horror Picture Show if she wants to do a musical, lol But usually when you are bad with accents it’s because you don’t have a musical ear, which wouldn’t bode well for any singing.
Reply@Canuck:
Replylol yes that is right, because of all the kids, My Fair Lady. They both wanted to be the geek Professor.
@Keane:
Amen!
And, let’s see how Fake a la Ferocity, heroin addict maintains custody of her brood “pitted” against Brad.
ReplyEnough of this boring tabloid twaddle about Angie. We made up all the salacious stories circulating about her in order to keep her embedded in your consciousness because cognitively dissonanting your amoebatized, gelatinous cerebellums destroys your will to escape from our grasp. Of course you’ll never believe it since we’ve programmed your perceptions of reality through years of indoctrination and conditioning in the public fool system we set up in order to eliminate all your ridiculous notions of initiative and individualism.
Go on now, be good little serfs and submit to our authority in the New World Order.
Reply@Keane:
Very well said. Couldn’t have put it better myself.
What was that line in the movie Benjamin Button. “You Never Know whats coming for ya” how very true
ReplyHI GUYS,
ReplyU PREDICTED SOME NEGATIVE TURN OF EVENTS WAS GOING TO HAPPEN IN 2009. WELL IT’S NOW CLOSE TO THE END OF 2009… AND NOTHING’S HAPPENED YET W/ THEM PERSONALLY.
BY THE WAY, I TOO NOTICED ALL THE HYPE ABOUT BRANGELINA WHEN JUSTJARED.COM CAME OUT IN 2005, ABOUT A MONTH AFTER PEREZHILTON.COM CAME OUT. JARED’S REAL NAME IS JASON ENG AND HE GRADUATED FROM COLUMBIA UNIVERSIY IN NEW YORK. HE NOW WORKS FOR GOLDMAN SACHS. HIS WEBSITE IS ONLY WORTH AROUND $165,000 WHILE PEREZ’ SITE IS WORTH CLOSE TO $50MILION. U CAN FIND THE VALUE OF WEBSITES ANYWHERE.
@Kate:
ReplyHalperin did not try very hard to find the source of the story about Brad wanting children. Pitt HIMSELF was on national television just before Friends ended, talking about how much he wanted children as soon as possible. He fully expected to start a family. He said it on Oprah and at least one other show. This was NOT manufactured out of thin air by Angelina as Halperin is erroneously saying. Aniston DID put her career ahead of her husband, because as soon as Friends ended, she started one of her many movies…it is too bad she isn’t a better actress…she certainly was not a success as a wife. She did it to herself!
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